309: Every Hog is a Miracle

Like a pile of greased hogs we’re heading back overboard into the icy brine-less depths of turn of the century Lake Superior shipwrecks.

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[0:00:21 – 0:00:22] UNKNOWN: Thank you.
[0:00:36 – 0:00:40] Adam: There is only dance music in times of war.
[0:00:41 – 0:00:43] Adam: Welcome to Tumble Home, a Boundary Waters podcast.
[0:00:43 – 0:00:44] Adam: My name is Adam.
[0:00:45 – 0:00:49] Adam: Joining me here in Studio V with The View is my best man, Eric.
[0:00:50 – 0:00:51] Adam: Good evening, Eric.
[0:00:51 – 0:00:52] Erik: Guten Abend.
[0:00:53 – 0:00:55] Adam: It is definitely Tomahawk After Dark.
[0:00:56 – 0:00:57] Adam: It’s very late.
[0:00:57 – 0:00:57] Adam: And how…
[0:00:57 – 0:00:58] Adam: Und wie!
[0:00:58 – 0:01:00] Adam: Oh, sehr gut.
[0:01:02 – 0:01:04] Adam: We’re talking to Shipwrecks again tonight.
[0:01:05 – 0:01:07] Adam: We’re just getting started.
[0:01:08 – 0:01:08] Adam: Eric.
[0:01:09 – 0:01:10] Erik: Just getting started.
[0:01:10 – 0:01:11] Erik: Yeah, the…
[0:01:14 – 0:01:14] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:01:14 – 0:01:24] Erik: You go outside on a night like after the nights we’ve been having up here and you look up and it’s kind of just like, what gives?
[0:01:25 – 0:01:25] Adam: What’s going on now?
[0:01:25 – 0:01:26] Erik: What’s going on?
[0:01:26 – 0:01:28] Erik: It’s just… What gives?
[0:01:28 – 0:01:30] Erik: Stars, just plain old stars.
[0:01:30 – 0:01:36] Adam: Just twinkling stars and the Milky Way visible to the naked eye.
[0:01:36 – 0:01:37] Adam: So boring.
[0:01:37 – 0:01:37] Erik: Yeah.
[0:01:37 – 0:01:38] Erik: So base.
[0:01:39 – 0:01:40] Erik: So basics.
[0:01:40 – 0:01:42] Adam: This is such a basic sky out there.
[0:01:43 – 0:01:50] Adam: The BZ is tipped to nowhere, and the KP is at a mild three right now, and we’re bored silly up here.
[0:01:51 – 0:01:52] Erik: Yeah, I don’t know what to do with myself.
[0:01:52 – 0:01:55] Erik: The last two nights, two nights ago it was cloudy, so it was kind of off and on.
[0:01:55 – 0:01:57] Erik: You could see them through the clouds.
[0:01:57 – 0:02:00] Erik: Yeah, but last night was, man, last night was a stunner.
[0:02:01 – 0:02:05] Erik: I’m sure everybody has seen all the pictures and or the Discord chatter.
[0:02:05 – 0:02:13] Erik: It was just a flowing stream, ticker tape of everybody’s insane Aurora pictures.
[0:02:13 – 0:02:14] Erik: They were good reds.
[0:02:15 – 0:02:15] Erik: They were good.
[0:02:15 – 0:02:16] Erik: Very good reds.
[0:02:17 – 0:02:18] Erik: Man, yeah.
[0:02:18 – 0:02:23] Erik: If it wasn’t for that insane wind, which kind of added to the wildness.
[0:02:23 – 0:02:24] Adam: Yeah.
[0:02:24 – 0:02:27] Erik: I could have stayed up there all night, but that wind was just like…
[0:02:28 – 0:02:29] Erik: It was like Gale Force at times.
[0:02:29 – 0:02:30] Erik: Yeah.
[0:02:30 – 0:02:37] Erik: Couldn’t stand out there without being sheltered, behind a break of some sort for more than 10 minutes.
[0:02:38 – 0:02:49] Erik: So you go outside, stand out there, come back in, warm up, go back out there with as many layers on as you could get, just looking straight south, just insane, pulsing, dancing, moving.
[0:02:49 – 0:02:53] Erik: I think I’ve said this multiple times over the years.
[0:02:53 – 0:02:56] Erik: I’ve seen a lot of Northern Lights, and a lot of times it’s like…
[0:02:57 – 0:03:25] Erik: yeah okay sort of a haze on the horizon like whatever like i’ve seen some crazy lights in my life takes a lot for me to get excited and i was pretty hyped last night that was yes sir top five maybe some of the craziest in terms of like movement and just constantly staying interesting and it just kept going one of the best shows i think i’ve ever seen yeah you ain’t wrong though it was cold with that wind
[0:03:25 – 0:03:25] Erik: Yeah.
[0:03:26 – 0:03:27] Erik: It was a wild ass wind.
[0:03:27 – 0:03:27] Erik: It was like.
[0:03:28 – 0:03:29] Erik: Yeah.
[0:03:29 – 0:03:34] Adam: I went out there with like my thin long underwear on and I was like, this isn’t going to do at all.
[0:03:34 – 0:03:35] Adam: Not for long.
[0:03:35 – 0:03:37] Adam: I might have to put on real pants.
[0:03:38 – 0:03:39] Adam: Hashtag.
[0:03:40 – 0:03:40] Erik: RPs.
[0:03:40 – 0:03:41] Adam: RPs.
[0:03:41 – 0:03:44] Adam: Yeah.
[0:03:44 – 0:03:48] Adam: So I went out there and I sat in my tech a chair in my real pants and I enjoyed the show.
[0:03:49 – 0:03:49] Erik: Yeah.
[0:03:49 – 0:03:51] Adam: It was, it was insane.
[0:03:51 – 0:03:52] Adam: It was intense.
[0:03:52 – 0:03:52] Adam: Yeah.
[0:03:53 – 0:03:55] Erik: There’s pictures online of people in El Salvador.
[0:03:55 – 0:03:58] Erik: I’m glad the El Salvadorians got a little taste.
[0:03:58 – 0:04:00] Adam: They’re down on the equator getting the taste.
[0:04:00 – 0:04:01] Adam: Yeah, just on the beach.
[0:04:03 – 0:04:03] Erik: What is that?
[0:04:04 – 0:04:06] Erik: What’s this mysterious light?
[0:04:06 – 0:04:07] Erik: Yeah, that picture on space weather.
[0:04:08 – 0:04:09] Erik: It was taken from an angle.
[0:04:09 – 0:04:10] Erik: I was like, what is this?
[0:04:10 – 0:04:11] Erik: This is like an album cover.
[0:04:11 – 0:04:13] Erik: Is this the new Gorillaz album cover?
[0:04:14 – 0:04:23] Erik: is this insane angle that this person took this picture from, but it’s also very like, I’m just going to start like putting my horizons at a 45 degree angle like that.
[0:04:24 – 0:04:24] Erik: Yeah.
[0:04:24 – 0:04:25] Erik: It makes everything more interesting.
[0:04:26 – 0:04:27] Adam: I got a picture.
[0:04:27 – 0:04:29] Adam: We have a fake jack-o’-lantern.
[0:04:29 – 0:04:31] Adam: I put this picture on the Discord.
[0:04:31 – 0:04:32] Adam: Everlasting?
[0:04:32 – 0:04:39] Adam: Yeah, and it’s got an eternal flame, a black flame candle that is lit on the inside of it, and it always burns.
[0:04:40 – 0:04:45] Adam: And I set it up on the railing of the porch and kind of framed it into the shot.
[0:04:46 – 0:04:49] Adam: And it wasn’t even a great set of northern lights at the time.
[0:04:49 – 0:04:52] Adam: I was just like, I’m going to put this jack-o’-lantern in the shot.
[0:04:52 – 0:05:03] Adam: And as I’m in the middle of a three-second exposure on my phone, the wind knocked the jack-o’-lantern out into the yard and destroyed the light inside of it.
[0:05:03 – 0:05:04] Adam: It’s gone forever.
[0:05:04 – 0:05:06] Erik: Did it turn into a good shot, though?
[0:05:06 – 0:05:07] Adam: It did, actually.
[0:05:07 – 0:05:08] Adam: Yeah, it captured it pretty nice.
[0:05:08 – 0:05:10] Adam: And so I did put it on the Discord.
[0:05:10 – 0:05:12] Adam: And I don’t know.
[0:05:13 – 0:05:18] Adam: Everybody else was posting far superior colors and vibrancy, so I had to get creative.
[0:05:18 – 0:05:20] Erik: Nobody else had a dancing pumpkin.
[0:05:20 – 0:05:21] Adam: Or a skeleton.
[0:05:22 – 0:05:27] Adam: So mine were the spookiest pictures posted, but the northern lights in the background weren’t very good.
[0:05:29 – 0:05:30] Adam: But they were very good.
[0:05:30 – 0:05:38] Adam: Later, my jack-o’-lantern was destroyed, and therefore I couldn’t use it anymore as a prop in my photography.
[0:05:38 – 0:05:38] Erik: Yeah.
[0:05:39 – 0:05:44] Erik: Also, two big boats went by during the show last night, and I was like, could you imagine being on one of those things right now?
[0:05:44 – 0:05:45] Erik: Do they even know what’s happening?
[0:05:45 – 0:05:46] Erik: I’m sure they must be out there.
[0:05:46 – 0:05:47] Adam: Brother in Christ, they know.
[0:05:48 – 0:05:48] Adam: On the deck?
[0:05:48 – 0:05:49] Adam: Yeah.
[0:05:49 – 0:05:50] Adam: Oh, they’re out on deck.
[0:05:50 – 0:05:50] Adam: Yeah.
[0:05:51 – 0:05:51] Adam: Yeah.
[0:05:51 – 0:05:52] Adam: They just throw the anchor down.
[0:05:53 – 0:05:55] Adam: They go in their short shorts out on the…
[0:05:55 – 0:05:57] Adam: They just sit right on the hatch covers.
[0:05:57 – 0:05:59] Adam: Just come to an immediate halt out in the middle of the lake.
[0:06:00 – 0:06:05] Adam: Pull these canvas tarpulons back and lay on the hatch cover, brother.
[0:06:06 – 0:06:08] Adam: And that’s how they do it on the big boats.
[0:06:08 – 0:06:10] Adam: We’re going to get into that later in the show.
[0:06:12 – 0:06:19] Adam: We do have art supplies here on the table that I took out of the warming room and put into the cooling chamber.
[0:06:20 – 0:06:21] Erik: Which is just outside.
[0:06:22 – 0:06:27] Adam: I just put them on the back of the snowmobile this morning when I was walking the dog.
[0:06:27 – 0:06:32] Adam: And so they’re at perfect drinking temperatures because I think the high today was 38, 40 maybe.
[0:06:33 – 0:06:34] Adam: Yeah, it got warm.
[0:06:34 – 0:06:37] Erik: We got like into the 40s for about 45 minutes.
[0:06:37 – 0:06:39] Adam: Yeah, the snowmobile’s in the shade.
[0:06:39 – 0:06:41] Adam: So these should be perfect.
[0:06:42 – 0:06:45] Adam: And these come to us from November.
[0:06:45 – 0:06:45] Adam: I’m sorry.
[0:06:45 – 0:06:45] Adam: Yeah.
[0:06:47 – 0:06:48] Adam: No, these are from September.
[0:06:49 – 0:06:51] Adam: They’re in a total wine bag.
[0:06:51 – 0:06:52] Adam: Total wine.
[0:06:52 – 0:07:00] Adam: So they’re listed on the whiteboard as total wine bag, nervous six-day solo from September 9th.
[0:07:01 – 0:07:02] Erik: No names?
[0:07:02 – 0:07:03] Erik: Just nervous six-day solo?
[0:07:04 – 0:07:04] Erik: Hike?
[0:07:05 – 0:07:06] Erik: Paddle?
[0:07:06 – 0:07:07] Adam: Who knows?
[0:07:07 – 0:07:08] Erik: Just nervous.
[0:07:09 – 0:07:09] Adam: Nervous.
[0:07:09 – 0:07:10] Adam: That’s their names.
[0:07:11 – 0:07:33] Adam: no note there’s another oh good oh they look like some some fest beers there is a note all those words eric and adam please accept what is my second gift of art supplies to the podcast my first was two years ago when my buddy scott and i came through following a short loop through gaskin
[0:07:34 – 0:07:39] Adam: This time, I’m about to embark on a more ambitious solo trip out of Siegel.
[0:07:40 – 0:07:45] Adam: That will take me through Kekakabik and Fraser, a 53-mile loop, if I can muster it.
[0:07:46 – 0:07:56] Adam: I was last through those two lakes 41 years ago as a 15-year-old kid, chronicled in my contribution to episode 238, Brutus and Growled.
[0:07:56 – 0:07:57] Adam: Okay.
[0:07:58 – 0:08:01] Adam: Anyways, congratulations on episode 300.
[0:08:01 – 0:08:05] Adam: I look forward to listening to at least 699 more.
[0:08:06 – 0:08:12] Adam: Tis the Oktoberfest season, so enjoy these fest beaters from Bad Weather Brewing.
[0:08:12 – 0:08:16] Adam: Though I’m guessing you may not crack these open until early 2026.
[0:08:17 – 0:08:19] Erik: No, no, it’s still 2025, brother.
[0:08:19 – 0:08:26] Adam: No, our supply is not dwindling, but we are being very efficient with our supply.
[0:08:26 – 0:08:28] Adam: Happy paddling, Ridiculous Finn.
[0:08:28 – 0:08:30] Adam: All right, thank you, Ridiculous Finn.
[0:08:31 – 0:08:32] Adam: We have a postscript.
[0:08:33 – 0:08:36] Adam: I am writing this on a stop at the Two Harbors Culvers.
[0:08:36 – 0:08:37] Adam: Okay.
[0:08:37 – 0:08:38] Erik: Wow, what was the flavor of the day?
[0:08:39 – 0:08:43] Adam: I thought about stopping at Betty’s Pies, but like you, I’ve never been there either.
[0:08:43 – 0:08:45] Adam: Maybe that’s changed by now?
[0:08:45 – 0:08:46] Erik: It’s not to be trusted.
[0:08:46 – 0:08:47] Erik: It’s never changed.
[0:08:47 – 0:08:48] Erik: We have not been there.
[0:08:48 – 0:08:50] Erik: Oh, we would never.
[0:08:50 – 0:08:54] Erik: That is going to be an aspect of the last episode of the show.
[0:08:54 – 0:08:55] Erik: We go to Betty’s Pies.
[0:08:56 – 0:08:57] Erik: And then bog.
[0:08:57 – 0:08:57] Adam: And then bog.
[0:08:58 – 0:08:59] Adam: Betty’s and Boggs.
[0:08:59 – 0:09:00] Adam: That’s the end.
[0:09:01 – 0:09:01] Adam: Betty’s and Boggs.
[0:09:01 – 0:09:02] Adam: My friend.
[0:09:03 – 0:09:05] Adam: It’s a Feist beer or Fest beer?
[0:09:05 – 0:09:05] Adam: Fest beer.
[0:09:05 – 0:09:07] Adam: Okay.
[0:09:07 – 0:09:10] Erik: I could tell through the… Crack-a-lack.
[0:09:10 – 0:09:12] Erik: …through the bag that these were some kind of an Oktoberfest.
[0:09:12 – 0:09:14] Adam: You could see the checkered pattern, yeah.
[0:09:14 – 0:09:15] Erik: Diamond checkering.
[0:09:16 – 0:09:18] Adam: Snap, crackle, pop.
[0:09:20 – 0:09:21] Adam: Light them up, ghetto Pat.
[0:09:21 – 0:09:21] Erik: Okay.
[0:09:23 – 0:09:24] Adam: No, no, no.
[0:09:24 – 0:09:26] Adam: I was like, ooh, I’m panicked.
[0:09:26 – 0:09:29] Adam: No, my temperature control was on point.
[0:09:36 – 0:09:38] Adam: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[0:09:39 – 0:09:40] Adam: Smooth elixirs.
[0:09:42 – 0:09:46] Adam: That’s smooth like those famous meatballs from Dayton, Ohio.
[0:09:46 – 0:09:48] Adam: Gray meatballs, the grayest of meats.
[0:09:48 – 0:09:50] Adam: They use that gray beef.
[0:09:52 – 0:09:54] Adam: Eric, you got to try them.
[0:09:54 – 0:09:55] Erik: They’re real good.
[0:09:55 – 0:09:59] Erik: So he’s just friends with the most disgusting man in the world now?
[0:09:59 – 0:10:01] Adam: He’s brothers with his family.
[0:10:02 – 0:10:03] Adam: Brothers with the grossest man.
[0:10:03 – 0:10:04] Adam: The man who tried to beat him.
[0:10:05 – 0:10:11] Adam: He was hired to hit him with a pipe out of a bush, and now he’s his only friend, I would say.
[0:10:11 – 0:10:12] Adam: Does he have any real friends?
[0:10:12 – 0:10:14] Adam: They are kind of good friends.
[0:10:14 – 0:10:16] Adam: I’d say he’s his only friend at this point.
[0:10:16 – 0:10:17] Adam: Mike Santini.
[0:10:18 – 0:10:19] Adam: That sick bastard.
[0:10:19 – 0:10:26] Adam: He’s giving them out the gray beef up in Dayton.
[0:10:27 – 0:10:28] Erik: I got some…
[0:10:29 – 0:10:29] Erik: I got some…
[0:10:30 – 0:10:31] Erik: Chicken?
[0:10:31 – 0:10:32] Erik: You want some chicken?
[0:10:32 – 0:10:33] Adam: Yeah, it’s chicken.
[0:10:33 – 0:10:34] Adam: Yeah.
[0:10:35 – 0:10:35] Adam: Oh, man.
[0:10:35 – 0:10:37] Adam: Somebody barfed in my sink.
[0:10:37 – 0:10:38] Adam: What the hell?
[0:10:38 – 0:10:39] Adam: Oh, man.
[0:10:39 – 0:10:40] Adam: There’s barf in here.
[0:10:40 – 0:10:40] Adam: Yeah.
[0:10:42 – 0:10:46] Erik: Well, we’ll have a full retrospective on The Chair Company when that whole series is over.
[0:10:46 – 0:10:49] Adam: So we’ll stop with the spoilers.
[0:10:49 – 0:10:51] Adam: I don’t know what’s going on right now, and I love it.
[0:10:52 – 0:10:53] Erik: I love it too.
[0:10:53 – 0:10:59] Erik: Yeah, if we stay up and or hang out long enough, I think maybe we could watch Friendship.
[0:10:59 – 0:11:00] Erik: Oh, no way.
[0:11:00 – 0:11:01] Adam: I still haven’t seen it.
[0:11:02 – 0:11:06] Erik: I don’t know if you want to mix your Tim Robinsons.
[0:11:07 – 0:11:29] Adam: well now i’m starting to listen to a podcast about uh the chair company and they’re talking all about the friendship movie in there and how it’s like yeah they’re like oh it’s like friendship mixed with david lynch mixed with a sitcom this is great yeah do i have this right i’ll give you yeah well it can give you a little bit more context then because it is uh
[0:11:31 – 0:11:33] Erik: Our Friday night, even though it’s a Thursday.
[0:11:33 – 0:11:34] Erik: It’s our Friday.
[0:11:37 – 0:11:38] Erik: It is.
[0:11:38 – 0:11:39] Erik: I don’t have to work tomorrow.
[0:11:39 – 0:11:40] Erik: We’re doing a sleepover.
[0:11:40 – 0:11:41] Adam: I’m sleeping over.
[0:11:42 – 0:11:44] Erik: You’re in Studio B. Sleepover.
[0:11:45 – 0:11:50] Adam: I tried to bring a sleeping bag, and Eric said it wasn’t necessary that they had a hand-woven quilt.
[0:11:50 – 0:11:54] Erik: Yeah, we actually have textiles in the form of blankets, beds.
[0:11:55 – 0:11:55] Erik: Amazing.
[0:11:56 – 0:11:56] Erik: Yeah.
[0:11:56 – 0:11:58] Erik: We’ve got to be up in three and a half hours.
[0:12:00 – 0:12:21] Adam: to go to the airport so we’re gonna podcast we’re gonna watch friendship we’re gonna sleep for a half hour and then go to the airport it’s a quick power nap and then we’ll be on our way the majesty of flight yeah this time tomorrow we’ll be back and we’re currently wearing hoodies but tomorrow we’re all gonna we’re gonna both dress up in suits and ties and try and get upgraded to first class
[0:12:22 – 0:12:22] Adam: For $18.
[0:12:23 – 0:12:26] Adam: Do you think they’re going to just let us sit in first class if we show up wearing ties?
[0:12:26 – 0:12:32] Erik: Maybe on the way to Minneapolis, the 45-minute flight, ride in first class.
[0:12:33 – 0:12:34] Erik: Hmm, yes.
[0:12:34 – 0:12:34] Adam: Comfort zone.
[0:12:34 – 0:12:37] Erik: I will take your finest champagne.
[0:12:38 – 0:12:39] Adam: I want the gray meat.
[0:12:39 – 0:12:42] Adam: This is basically a short bus in the sky, sir.
[0:12:43 – 0:12:46] Adam: I can’t tell you how excited I am to fly out of Duluth, though.
[0:12:46 – 0:12:47] Adam: I’ve never flown out of Duluth.
[0:12:47 – 0:12:47] Erik: No way.
[0:12:48 – 0:12:49] Erik: Never been in that airport.
[0:12:49 – 0:12:49] Erik: Really?
[0:12:50 – 0:12:52] Adam: No, it’s a majestic airport.
[0:12:53 – 0:12:54] Erik: It’s so majestic, I’m sure.
[0:12:54 – 0:12:57] Adam: It’s so much nicer than driving all the way to MSP.
[0:12:58 – 0:13:01] Adam: I would rather shoot my own goddamn foot off than drive to MSP.
[0:13:01 – 0:13:05] Erik: Duluth is, yeah, that’s about my max for also then having to get on a plane.
[0:13:06 – 0:13:10] Adam: Also, just think about the luxury of when we get home, we only have to drive home from Duluth.
[0:13:11 – 0:13:11] Erik: That’s the worst.
[0:13:11 – 0:13:13] Erik: You land, and then you’ve got to drive five hours.
[0:13:13 – 0:13:14] Adam: Drive 35.
[0:13:14 – 0:13:15] Adam: F that.
[0:13:15 – 0:13:16] Adam: Oh, my God.
[0:13:17 – 0:13:19] Adam: F exclamation point that.
[0:13:20 – 0:13:22] Erik: These fest beers are quite festive.
[0:13:23 – 0:13:23] Erik: I’m feeling great.
[0:13:24 – 0:13:25] Erik: The lightning bolt on it.
[0:13:28 – 0:13:29] Adam: Yeah, what’s that from?
[0:13:30 – 0:13:30] Adam: Fairweather?
[0:13:31 – 0:13:31] Adam: Fair weather.
[0:13:31 – 0:13:32] Adam: Fair weather.
[0:13:32 – 0:13:34] Erik: I think we’ve had fair weather brewing before.
[0:13:34 – 0:13:36] Adam: I don’t know if we’ve had the Fest beer, though.
[0:13:36 – 0:13:38] Adam: Probably from this tumble homie.
[0:13:38 – 0:13:40] Adam: Hot Delicious would probably know.
[0:13:40 – 0:13:41] Erik: They’ll let us know.
[0:13:42 – 0:13:48] Erik: Well, they got an insane color combination on the beer can here for trying to read where it’s from.
[0:13:49 – 0:13:51] Adam: Yeah, we’re trying to read orange on blue.
[0:13:51 – 0:13:52] Erik: Orange on blue.
[0:13:52 – 0:13:55] Erik: It’s like it does that thing where like the letters kind of look like they’re like moving.
[0:13:56 – 0:14:00] Adam: You got to get like Dr. Jacoby glasses on to see that.
[0:14:02 – 0:14:05] Adam: I should go as Dr. Jacoby for next year’s Halloween party.
[0:14:06 – 0:14:08] Adam: You be Dr. Jacoby and I’ll be Hawk.
[0:14:10 – 0:14:13] Erik: Tori can just go as the log or the log lady.
[0:14:14 – 0:14:17] Erik: Log Lady and Hector can go as Log.
[0:14:17 – 0:14:18] Erik: There we go.
[0:14:18 – 0:14:18] Erik: Perfect.
[0:14:19 – 0:14:19] Erik: Yes.
[0:14:19 – 0:14:21] Erik: Yes, boss.
[0:14:21 – 0:14:26] Erik: I had to explain to way too many people who I was and who my wife was.
[0:14:27 – 0:14:28] Adam: I saw the picture.
[0:14:28 – 0:14:29] Adam: You guys look great.
[0:14:29 – 0:14:32] Erik: I can’t really go.
[0:14:32 – 0:14:34] Erik: I mean, where do you begin?
[0:14:34 – 0:14:36] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:14:36 – 0:14:37] Erik: So there’s a thing.
[0:14:37 – 0:14:39] Erik: It’s called Gonzo Journalism.
[0:14:42 – 0:14:42] Erik: Um…
[0:14:43 – 0:14:49] Erik: So, yeah, to go as… To go as Twin Peaks characters would probably be…
[0:14:49 – 0:14:58] Erik: But then, like, on the alternative to that, there was, like, 20 people at this Halloween party that were dressed as, like, current, like, anime, like, Dragon Slayer people.
[0:14:58 – 0:14:59] Adam: For Christ’s sakes, Eric.
[0:15:00 – 0:15:00] Erik: It’s like, ah…
[0:15:01 – 0:15:07] Erik: Yeah, it probably would take you just as long to explain what you’re dressed as as me to do the same for you.
[0:15:08 – 0:15:13] Erik: So let’s just agree that we both have great costumes.
[0:15:13 – 0:15:21] Erik: Chug a beer and spray some aerosolized LSD into each other’s mouths and have a good night.
[0:15:22 – 0:15:23] Adam: Sounds great.
[0:15:23 – 0:15:23] Erik: Yeah.
[0:15:26 – 0:15:33] Adam: Tonight, we are talking shipwrecks of the North Shore, and tonight, actually, we’re talking shipwrecks of Isle Royale.
[0:15:33 – 0:15:34] Adam: The America?
[0:15:36 – 0:15:36] Adam: Not yet.
[0:15:37 – 0:15:37] Adam: That’s next week.
[0:15:37 – 0:15:38] Adam: Oh, John, no.
[0:15:38 – 0:15:41] Adam: Do you know how many shipwrecks there’s been on Isle Royale?
[0:15:41 – 0:15:42] Adam: Two dozen.
[0:15:42 – 0:15:49] Adam: This book, we are, of course, talking about Michael Schumacher’s book, Too Much Sea for the Decks.
[0:15:49 – 0:15:50] Adam: It’s too rough to feed you.
[0:15:51 – 0:15:52] Adam: It’s too rough to feed you, boys.
[0:15:53 – 0:15:55] Adam: The Americas next week, actually.
[0:15:56 – 0:15:58] Adam: Because we’re going in chronological.
[0:15:58 – 0:15:58] Adam: Of course.
[0:15:59 – 0:16:02] Adam: Starting out this evening with the Cumberland.
[0:16:02 – 0:16:05] Adam: You ever heard of the Cumberland?
[0:16:05 – 0:16:06] Adam: Just the gap.
[0:16:07 – 0:16:11] Adam: Bennerland Cumberland, my favorite actor.
[0:16:11 – 0:16:16] Adam: 1877 is where we’re starting tonight’s tale.
[0:16:16 – 0:16:22] Adam: Do you have any other notes or loose ends, or are we allowed to go right into the shipwrecks?
[0:16:22 – 0:16:25] Erik: No, I thought we ended in the 20th century.
[0:16:25 – 0:16:27] Adam: We did, though, but those are North Shore.
[0:16:27 – 0:16:30] Adam: Oh, we’re going chronological in individual areas.
[0:16:30 – 0:16:38] Adam: Yeah, the book is divided into North Shore and Duluth shipwrecks, Isle Royale shipwrecks, and then bad storms.
[0:16:39 – 0:16:39] Adam: Nice.
[0:16:40 – 0:16:43] Adam: And so there’s like 13 Isle Royale shipwrecks, though.
[0:16:44 – 0:16:53] Adam: We’re going to do three of them tonight, and then I’m going to try and narrow it down to three other ones for next week, and then there might be a fourth part where we just talk about bad storms.
[0:16:54 – 0:16:54] Adam: Wow.
[0:16:54 – 0:16:56] Adam: We’re going to talk about isobars and low pressure, Eric.
[0:16:57 – 0:16:58] Adam: I’m going to talk your ear off about this.
[0:16:59 – 0:17:11] Erik: Yeah, well, refer back to the first episode of the Blowdown series if you need any precursors or preliminary learnings on how storms work.
[0:17:15 – 0:17:15] Erik: Go.
[0:17:15 – 0:17:16] Adam: All right.
[0:17:16 – 0:17:20] Adam: Well, the Cumberland was sunk on July 24th.
[0:17:20 – 0:17:22] Adam: Spoiler.
[0:17:22 – 0:17:25] Adam: 1877 at Cumberland Point.
[0:17:26 – 0:17:27] Adam: Do you know where that is?
[0:17:27 – 0:17:29] Erik: You’ve been to Isle Royale.
[0:17:30 – 0:17:31] Erik: Is that on Isle Royale?
[0:17:31 – 0:17:32] Erik: No, I don’t know.
[0:17:32 – 0:17:33] Erik: I know…
[0:17:35 – 0:17:37] Erik: I think anything that’s named out there has been probably…
[0:17:39 – 0:17:42] Erik: Probably named more recently than that.
[0:17:42 – 0:17:44] Erik: Yeah, I have no idea where Cumberland Gap is.
[0:17:44 – 0:17:48] Adam: My first question was like, well, was it named for the ship or was the ship named for the point?
[0:17:49 – 0:17:50] Adam: We’re about to find out.
[0:17:50 – 0:17:50] Erik: Okay.
[0:17:50 – 0:17:56] Adam: For many years before tourism arrived on the island, commercial shipping was almost non-existent.
[0:17:57 – 0:18:04] Adam: An occasional package freighter might drop off supplies, but there was no need for bigger boats to drop by.
[0:18:04 – 0:18:08] Adam: In fact, larger vessels did their best to avoid the area.
[0:18:09 – 0:18:38] Adam: isle royale and the network of islands surrounding it were a dangerous place to navigate in the autumn when vicious lake superior storms strongly affected steering the islands by their very nature feature very deep and very shallow water often in tight proximity over the years the area near isle royale became the became the site of numerous shipwrecks many resulting in the loss of life you want to see a picture of this bad boy
[0:18:39 – 0:18:40] Erik: What year is it?
[0:18:40 – 0:18:40] Erik: 1877?
[0:18:41 – 0:18:41] Adam: 1877.
[0:18:41 – 0:18:42] Adam: It’s a sidewheeler.
[0:18:43 – 0:18:46] Adam: A 214-foot sidewheeler Cumberland.
[0:18:46 – 0:18:48] Adam: Frequently delivered supplies to Duluth.
[0:18:49 – 0:18:53] Erik: Seems much more technologically advanced than I would have assumed.
[0:18:53 – 0:18:54] Erik: 1877?
[0:18:54 – 0:18:56] Adam: I think it’s all made of wood, too.
[0:18:56 – 0:18:57] Adam: Can you imagine that?
[0:18:57 – 0:18:59] Adam: They didn’t even have nails in 1877.
[0:18:59 – 0:19:03] Adam: Just soaking constantly wet.
[0:19:04 – 0:19:07] Adam: Just wet glue and wood and somehow floated.
[0:19:07 – 0:19:07] Erik: Creaky.
[0:19:08 – 0:19:10] Erik: I can’t imagine how creaky that thing was.
[0:19:13 – 0:19:15] Erik: We could watch Friendship or we could watch U571.
[0:19:15 – 0:19:21] Adam: Oh, well, I mean, I really did enjoy watching Interstellar last week.
[0:19:21 – 0:19:26] Adam: The big screen was nice, but those speakers, Eric, were intense.
[0:19:27 – 0:19:27] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:19:28 – 0:19:30] Adam: It was like shaking the entire house.
[0:19:30 – 0:19:34] Adam: All of Studio V and the house that it was attached to was shaking.
[0:19:34 – 0:19:35] Erik: Yeah, that’s the only way to do it.
[0:19:36 – 0:19:45] Erik: Friendship doesn’t have nearly as much intense window-rattling audio as Interstellar.
[0:19:45 – 0:19:45] Erik: No?
[0:19:45 – 0:19:46] Erik: No, it doesn’t.
[0:19:46 – 0:19:51] Erik: Also doesn’t have that rat bastard Matt Damon halfway through either.
[0:19:52 – 0:19:53] Adam: That’s what they want you to think.
[0:19:53 – 0:19:53] Adam: Yeah.
[0:19:54 – 0:19:59] Adam: They didn’t actually put him in the credits or in the trailer because they didn’t want you to know that Matt Damon is also in Friendship.
[0:20:00 – 0:20:00] Erik: Oh, yeah?
[0:20:00 – 0:20:00] Erik: Well…
[0:20:00 – 0:20:03] Adam: He’s going to probably end up appearing in The Chair Company, for all we know.
[0:20:03 – 0:20:04] Adam: That would be insane.
[0:20:04 – 0:20:05] Erik: That son of a bitch.
[0:20:05 – 0:20:05] Erik: I would love that.
[0:20:06 – 0:20:10] Adam: Seven miles off the western coast of Isle Royale lies Cumberland Point.
[0:20:11 – 0:20:12] Adam: Seven miles off the western coast.
[0:20:13 – 0:20:13] Adam: What?
[0:20:13 – 0:20:14] Adam: So that’s on this side.
[0:20:15 – 0:20:16] Adam: Seven miles off the coast.
[0:20:16 – 0:20:19] Erik: That’s… Oh, is it a point on the mainland?
[0:20:20 – 0:20:23] Adam: Uh… No, it’s off the Isle.
[0:20:24 – 0:20:34] Adam: how is it a point it sounds like it should be an island then Cumberland Island I know it is but it’s an island within an island within a big lake
[0:20:35 – 0:20:39] Adam: This is the site of the island’s first significant shipwreck.
[0:20:39 – 0:20:55] Adam: The Cumberland, a 214-foot Canadian sidewheeler, had run aground on a reef near the Rock of Ages in 1877, ending the vessel’s six-year career of delivering passengers and freight to northern Minnesota and southern Canada.
[0:20:55 – 0:20:56] Erik: Well, it had a good run.
[0:20:56 – 0:21:03] Adam: Yeah, so it’s by the Rock of Ages, which has a lighthouse on it now, which I don’t think was there in 1877.
[0:21:03 – 0:21:13] Adam: But I remember being up on the overlook at Mount Josephine and one day being up there on a very clear day, you could see the Rock of Ages lighthouse.
[0:21:13 – 0:21:16] Adam: So I think it’s like way out there, like kind of in between.
[0:21:17 – 0:21:23] Adam: Just one of those like, you know, edge islands that’s connected to the same source rock, correct?
[0:21:23 – 0:21:24] Erik: Yeah.
[0:21:24 – 0:21:38] Adam: Boats like the Cumberland with their sleek designs and sporting circular paddle wheels on either side of the vessels were popular in the mid-19th century, known for their pleasing appearances and appreciated for their efficiency.
[0:21:39 – 0:21:53] Adam: Along with the schooners, the side wheelers did a hefty business at the time when wooden hold vessels dotted the horizon while delivering livestock and dry goods to areas otherwise deprived of badly needed provisions.
[0:21:53 – 0:21:54] Erik: Like livestock.
[0:21:55 – 0:21:56] Adam: The livestock.
[0:21:56 – 0:22:04] Adam: This boat just looks like the boat that all the frogs are hot-dogging it to the bassoon and over the garden wall.
[0:22:04 – 0:22:07] Adam: You have to pay two pennies to get it onto the Cumberland.
[0:22:08 – 0:22:09] Adam: It does look just like that.
[0:22:09 – 0:22:09] Erik: Uncle Endicott.
[0:22:10 – 0:22:12] Erik: Tom Sawyer, Mississippi River.
[0:22:12 – 0:22:12] Erik: Yeah.
[0:22:13 – 0:22:14] Erik: Paddleboat chugger.
[0:22:15 – 0:22:16] Adam: He picked me all wrong.
[0:22:16 – 0:22:17] Erik: It’s a side scroller.
[0:22:17 – 0:22:19] Erik: No, that’s something different.
[0:22:20 – 0:22:21] Erik: It’s a side wheeler.
[0:22:21 – 0:22:23] Adam: It’s a side wheeler.
[0:22:23 – 0:22:24] Adam: Oh, my God.
[0:22:26 – 0:22:27] Adam: Who locked my phone?
[0:22:28 – 0:22:28] Adam: Oh, my God.
[0:22:30 – 0:22:32] Adam: Anyways, these beers are delicious.
[0:22:32 – 0:22:36] Adam: I’m going to have to have a sip now.
[0:22:36 – 0:22:37] Adam: I want a beer.
[0:22:43 – 0:22:44] Adam: Freaking side wheelers, though.
[0:22:44 – 0:22:47] Adam: You don’t see these things anymore other than, like, riverboat casinos.
[0:22:48 – 0:22:48] Erik: They’re just parked.
[0:22:49 – 0:22:49] Adam: Yeah.
[0:22:49 – 0:22:50] Adam: These are moving around.
[0:22:50 – 0:22:51] Erik: In international waters.
[0:22:52 – 0:22:59] Adam: Yeah, so it was built to haul passengers between Duluth and all the way out to Georgian Bay on Lake Huron.
[0:22:59 – 0:23:10] Adam: The Cumberland was launched in 1871 and had four major incidents, including being frozen in the ice at the end of her first season, and it had to be left until spring.
[0:23:10 – 0:23:15] Adam: Passengers had to climb off and walk off the ice to get out near the Soo Locks.
[0:23:16 – 0:23:16] Erik: Oh, that’s great.
[0:23:16 – 0:23:17] Adam: Well…
[0:23:18 – 0:23:21] Adam: That’s a good way to end your first season on the Great Lakes.
[0:23:21 – 0:23:23] Adam: We’ll see you guys in May.
[0:23:23 – 0:23:36] Adam: In 1874, they got into a storm and were taking on so much water that they pushed 150 hogs, sheep, and cattle off the boat and then managed to half sink it into the shallows of Thunder Bay.
[0:23:36 – 0:23:40] Adam: But all the humans did live.
[0:23:40 – 0:23:41] Erik: Pushed all the pigs off.
[0:23:42 – 0:23:44] Adam: All the hogs and cattle are gone.
[0:23:44 – 0:24:02] Erik: That’s not the sound you really get privy to all that much these days is the sound of 100 hogs drowning in a cold Lake Superior as you drive your boat into the ground just to get to shore in time before everybody on board dies.
[0:24:02 – 0:24:10] Adam: 100 Hogs was the original title of the song off the Geese album, 100 Horses, but they decided it was too grotesque.
[0:24:10 – 0:24:13] Erik: Yeah, the original name for geese was the drowning hogs.
[0:24:13 – 0:24:17] Adam: The drowning hogs.
[0:24:17 – 0:24:20] Adam: In 1874, they pushed the hogs off.
[0:24:21 – 0:24:26] Adam: In 1876, they got stuck in the rocks and a tow line from a tugboat snapped.
[0:24:27 – 0:24:29] Adam: and broke the captain’s legs clean off.
[0:24:30 – 0:24:30] Adam: What?
[0:24:30 – 0:24:33] Adam: Just like in that movie, the ghost ship.
[0:24:34 – 0:24:34] Erik: No, really?
[0:24:34 – 0:24:36] Adam: No, it broke his legs.
[0:24:36 – 0:24:37] Adam: Not off, though.
[0:24:37 – 0:24:40] Adam: Snapped him right off at the knees.
[0:24:41 – 0:24:41] Adam: Wow.
[0:24:42 – 0:24:43] Erik: This boat seems cursed.
[0:24:44 – 0:24:45] Adam: Well, so they had four major incidents.
[0:24:45 – 0:24:47] Erik: They were all just cursed back then, though, weren’t they?
[0:24:48 – 0:24:49] Adam: Yeah.
[0:24:49 – 0:24:50] Adam: Well, that’s the thing.
[0:24:50 – 0:24:51] Adam: I think we talked about it last week.
[0:24:51 – 0:24:56] Adam: They weren’t cursed so much as they just kept sailing them until they sank.
[0:24:56 – 0:24:57] Adam: They never retired a boat.
[0:24:57 – 0:25:02] Adam: They just sailed it until they didn’t like, oh, it’s no longer making us enough money.
[0:25:03 – 0:25:05] Adam: They just stick more hogs on it until it sank.
[0:25:10 – 0:25:19] Adam: Although considered a trim, staunch, and fast sailing craft, the Cumberland suffered more than the average number of indignities in her brief life in commercial shipping.
[0:25:20 – 0:25:27] Adam: It is probably appropriate that she met her demise under such strange circumstances in ideal sailing conditions.
[0:25:29 – 0:25:37] Adam: The trouble began on July 20, 1877, when the Cumberland grounded on a reef near Nipigant Harbor in northern Lake Superior.
[0:25:38 – 0:25:45] Adam: Tuggs freed the boat three days later, but she had sustained enough damage to take four to six feet of water into her hold.
[0:25:47 – 0:25:57] Adam: The Cumberland transferred her passengers to another vessel, and rather than stop for repairs, she relied on her pumps to carry her through to Duluth, her intended destination.
[0:25:58 – 0:26:08] Adam: She must have been sailing at full speed or near it because when she hit a reef near the Rock of Ages, the boat was pushed onto the reef to her midsection.
[0:26:09 – 0:26:19] Adam: The day was clear and the water calm, but it was later determined that the Cumberland would have missed the reef entirely if she had sailed 100 feet to either her port or starboard side.
[0:26:20 – 0:26:24] Adam: Instead, the boat sailed into water only six feet deep.
[0:26:24 – 0:26:25] Erik: Ain’t that just the way.
[0:26:25 – 0:26:27] Erik: Ain’t that just the way.
[0:26:27 – 0:26:28] Erik: Just dead calm, beautiful day.
[0:26:28 – 0:26:30] Adam: Sounds like, yeah.
[0:26:31 – 0:26:32] Adam: Could have missed it.
[0:26:32 – 0:26:34] Erik: Well, start throwing the pigs overboard.
[0:26:34 – 0:26:40] Adam: We already threw them off three days ago, the last time we hit a rock.
[0:26:40 – 0:26:40] Adam: We have no hope.
[0:26:40 – 0:26:46] Adam: So they literally hit a rock, got all the passengers off, got towed off, and were like, we’re just going to keep going to Duluth.
[0:26:46 – 0:26:50] Adam: And then at full speed smashed into another big rock, and that was where they were stuck.
[0:26:50 – 0:26:52] Erik: We feel like this is just what the 1800s were like.
[0:26:54 – 0:26:56] Adam: They had no idea what was going on.
[0:26:56 – 0:26:58] Adam: Just keep forging forward, smashing into more reefs.
[0:27:00 – 0:27:01] Adam: Captain J.G.
[0:27:01 – 0:27:05] Adam: Parsons was using Canadian charts that did not show the reef.
[0:27:06 – 0:27:07] Adam: Can you believe that?
[0:27:07 – 0:27:08] Erik: Well, let’s sail down to America.
[0:27:09 – 0:27:12] Adam: Let’s go really fast into uncharted territory.
[0:27:14 – 0:27:20] Adam: The American charts apparently did show this reef, but they didn’t have those charts because this is a Canadian vessel.
[0:27:22 – 0:27:26] Adam: Multiple freighters attempted to pull the Cumberland free, but could not budge it.
[0:27:27 – 0:27:29] Adam: By September, the boat had broken apart and sunk.
[0:27:30 – 0:27:33] Adam: Savage divers were able to recover many items.
[0:27:33 – 0:27:35] Erik: It was just jammed up there then, pretty much for sure.
[0:27:36 – 0:27:38] Adam: Oh, they just abandoned ship, yeah.
[0:27:38 – 0:27:40] Adam: Called it a loss and swam away.
[0:27:42 – 0:27:47] Adam: The salvage divers were able to recover many items, and those were auctioned off on September 5th.
[0:27:48 – 0:27:51] Adam: Can you imagine going to an auction for a modern shipwreck?
[0:27:51 – 0:27:53] Adam: Like, this ship just got stuck on a rock.
[0:27:53 – 0:27:55] Adam: Now we’re going to auction off all its china.
[0:27:57 – 0:27:59] Erik: Yeah, I guess it depends on what they were auctioning off of it.
[0:27:59 – 0:28:05] Adam: Curiously, there is no record of the engine or boilers being recovered or auctioned.
[0:28:05 – 0:28:13] Adam: And yet, they are no longer in the sunken vessel, which has become, and still is, a popular diving destination.
[0:28:13 – 0:28:15] Erik: You won’t find me down there.
[0:28:15 – 0:28:16] Adam: I wasn’t down there.
[0:28:16 – 0:28:17] Adam: We weren’t down there at all.
[0:28:17 – 0:28:19] Erik: I wasn’t down there stealing boilers.
[0:28:19 – 0:28:19] Erik: What are you talking about?
[0:28:20 – 0:28:22] Adam: We were down there with Fred the Horse, but we didn’t take the boilers.
[0:28:22 – 0:28:23] Adam: No.
[0:28:24 – 0:28:27] Adam: Some claim the entire wreck was an insurance claim.
[0:28:27 – 0:28:30] Adam: They just ran straight into the rock on purpose, apparently.
[0:28:32 – 0:28:33] Erik: Very convenient.
[0:28:33 – 0:28:37] Erik: Those are the good old days of insurance fraud when you used to be able to get away with it.
[0:28:37 – 0:28:38] Adam: They got the money.
[0:28:38 – 0:28:39] Adam: Yeah, I’m sure they did.
[0:28:39 – 0:28:40] Adam: So they got away with it.
[0:28:41 – 0:28:43] Adam: Scott Free.
[0:28:43 – 0:28:52] Adam: 21 years later, the Henry Chisel, a 257-foot wooden bulk carrier, ran aground and later sunk in the exact same spot.
[0:28:53 – 0:29:00] Adam: The two wrecks have been mixed by the waves on the reef that is now known as Cumberland Point.
[0:29:03 – 0:29:05] Erik: There’s just a whole pile of debris down at the bottom of the lake.
[0:29:05 – 0:29:07] Erik: I don’t know if this is the Cumberland or the, what was it?
[0:29:10 – 0:29:11] Erik: The Dexter Bradley?
[0:29:11 – 0:29:12] Adam: The Henry Chisholm.
[0:29:13 – 0:29:14] Adam: Oh, the Henry Chisholm.
[0:29:15 – 0:29:19] Erik: I can’t tell if this is Chisholm Wood or Cumberland Point.
[0:29:19 – 0:29:23] Erik: Original side scroller wheel here.
[0:29:23 – 0:29:25] Erik: It’s all mixed up, but I know for sure.
[0:29:25 – 0:29:26] Adam: There’s a diver.
[0:29:26 – 0:29:27] Erik: I got a picture of you.
[0:29:27 – 0:29:28] Adam: There are no boilers.
[0:29:28 – 0:29:31] Adam: I got a picture down here of the diver on the Cumberland wreckage.
[0:29:31 – 0:29:32] Erik: Oh, wow.
[0:29:32 – 0:29:33] Adam: Can’t tell which boat’s which.
[0:29:34 – 0:29:36] Adam: What are the chances, though?
[0:29:36 – 0:29:38] Adam: That must be a real nasty reef.
[0:29:39 – 0:29:39] Adam: I guess.
[0:29:39 – 0:29:41] Adam: Out there that ate up two boats.
[0:29:41 – 0:29:42] Erik: Shredded two boats.
[0:29:42 – 0:29:49] Adam: And they have a goddamn lighthouse out there called the Rock of Ages Lighthouse, and still boats are wandering into the reef.
[0:29:49 – 0:29:49] Erik: Away.
[0:29:50 – 0:29:51] Adam: I don’t know, guys.
[0:29:51 – 0:29:52] Adam: Maybe lay off the steam.
[0:29:53 – 0:29:55] Erik: Maybe we could run this gap here, just south of the lighthouse.
[0:29:59 – 0:29:59] Adam: Negative.
[0:29:59 – 0:30:00] Adam: Throw the pigs.
[0:30:00 – 0:30:01] Adam: God damn it.
[0:30:01 – 0:30:02] Adam: Push the hogs in.
[0:30:03 – 0:30:04] Adam: Call the Coast Guard.
[0:30:05 – 0:30:07] Adam: Send up the flares.
[0:30:07 – 0:30:09] Erik: Sir, it’s 1877.
[0:30:10 – 0:30:11] Adam: Flares haven’t been invented yet.
[0:30:11 – 0:30:13] Adam: Shut up, intern.
[0:30:13 – 0:30:16] Erik: Sure are a lot of pig bones down here, but there’s no boilers.
[0:30:17 – 0:30:19] Erik: It’s a real mystery, Scully.
[0:30:23 – 0:30:24] Adam: All right, well, that’s the end of that one.
[0:30:24 – 0:30:25] Adam: Do you have any questions on that wreck?
[0:30:27 – 0:30:29] Erik: I do, but I don’t think you would be able to answer any of them.
[0:30:29 – 0:30:30] Adam: I probably could.
[0:30:31 – 0:30:36] Adam: They did name the point and, I guess, the reef after the boat, after it sunk there.
[0:30:37 – 0:30:41] Adam: I’m sure it never had a name before that.
[0:30:41 – 0:30:47] Adam: Probably it was an unnamed reef, but now it’s named Cumberland Point.
[0:30:48 – 0:31:14] Adam: you know google it idiot rock idiot rock that’s what it should be called that should be the episode title idiot rock two full-sized wooden ships just crashed into it full speed and sunk in good conditions in perfect sailing conditions yeah like this is no edmund fitzgerald scenario where it’s like an map boy i don’t know what happened they just got they got run into some bad seas out there
[0:31:16 – 0:31:24] Adam: The name of this book is Too Much Seas for Their Deck, but most of these shipwrecks are just happening in dead calm conditions.
[0:31:24 – 0:31:24] Adam: Yeah.
[0:31:25 – 0:31:31] Adam: Next up on the show, the Algoma, November 7th, 1885.
[0:31:31 – 0:31:33] Adam: Now we’re in November again.
[0:31:33 – 0:31:35] Erik: The trout and salmon capital of Wisconsin.
[0:31:35 – 0:31:36] Adam: Exactly.
[0:31:36 – 0:31:37] Adam: Everybody knows that.
[0:31:38 – 0:31:40] Adam: Anybody with half a brain knows that one.
[0:31:40 – 0:31:47] Adam: The Algoma, the Athabasca, and the Alberta were all identical steel-hulled passenger steamers.
[0:31:49 – 0:31:52] Adam: Built in Scotland in 1883.
[0:31:53 – 0:31:56] Adam: Owned by the Canadian Pacific Railway.
[0:31:57 – 0:31:57] Adam: Got all that?
[0:31:58 – 0:32:07] Adam: The Algoma was a luxury boat, Eric, with quarters for 180 first class and 200 passengers in the lower decks.
[0:32:07 – 0:32:09] Erik: Late 19th century Octantis?
[0:32:10 – 0:32:10] Adam: Pretty much.
[0:32:10 – 0:32:12] Adam: Yeah.
[0:32:12 – 0:32:12] Adam: Yeah.
[0:32:15 – 0:32:16] Adam: Where’s this passage?
[0:32:17 – 0:32:17] Adam: 69?
[0:32:17 – 0:32:20] Adam: Oh, I got it.
[0:32:20 – 0:32:21] Adam: Okay, we’re ready to go.
[0:32:22 – 0:32:28] Erik: She is certainly the finest boat that has ever sailed upon these great inland seas.
[0:32:29 – 0:32:33] Adam: And her superiority over all other lake craft.
[0:32:33 – 0:32:37] Adam: And every particular is at once apparent.
[0:32:37 – 0:32:39] Erik: Some say she’s unsinkable.
[0:32:41 – 0:32:43] Adam: So this one, now we’re back in the steel boats, all right?
[0:32:43 – 0:32:45] Adam: We’re done with the wood boats for the night.
[0:32:46 – 0:32:47] Adam: We’re back in the steel craft.
[0:32:47 – 0:32:49] Adam: These sons of bitches, they’re unsinkable.
[0:32:49 – 0:32:49] Erik: They can’t sink.
[0:32:50 – 0:32:59] Adam: To reach the Great Lakes from Scotland, where it was built, it crossed the Atlantic and was cut in half to squeeze through the Welland Canal.
[0:32:59 – 0:32:59] Adam: Wow.
[0:32:59 – 0:33:02] Adam: And then was reassembled in Cleveland.
[0:33:02 – 0:33:03] Erik: Lengthwise.
[0:33:03 – 0:33:04] Erik: In Cleveland.
[0:33:05 – 0:33:06] Adam: The long way.
[0:33:07 – 0:33:11] Adam: It was cut in half like that dog in the warehouse.
[0:33:12 – 0:33:14] Erik: Split dogs are very popular.
[0:33:14 – 0:33:15] Erik: Split steamers.
[0:33:15 – 0:33:16] Erik: Split steamers.
[0:33:16 – 0:33:17] Adam: These split steamers.
[0:33:18 – 0:33:21] Erik: Hopefully that thing doesn’t come back to life.
[0:33:21 – 0:33:24] Adam: Put it in a bag and throw it in the incinerator.
[0:33:24 – 0:33:25] Erik: Yeah, go visit your incinerator buddy.
[0:33:26 – 0:33:27] Erik: I’ve got a big promise.
[0:33:27 – 0:33:29] Erik: I’ve got a big ask buddy.
[0:33:29 – 0:33:31] Erik: I need you to burn this thousand foot half split steamer.
[0:33:31 – 0:33:33] Erik: What are you saying to me right now?
[0:33:34 – 0:33:42] Adam: The work was completed in 1884 on all three of them and they were sent over and split up.
[0:33:43 – 0:33:43] Adam: Amazing.
[0:33:47 – 0:34:01] Adam: The Algoma carrying the smallest passenger list in her two-year service departed Owen Sound on Lake Huron for Port Arthur on Thursday, November 5, 1885.
[0:34:01 – 0:34:09] Adam: Her light load of passengers was offset by a substantial cargo of packaged goods and railway supplies.
[0:34:10 – 0:34:15] Adam: The boat passed through the Soo Locks at noon the following day and reached Whitefish Point about four hours later.
[0:34:16 – 0:34:22] Adam: The sky was dark and a strong wind was blowing when the Algoma entered Lake Superior.
[0:34:23 – 0:34:28] Erik: At least there was an actual weather event that might lead to this instead of just hubris.
[0:34:29 – 0:34:35] Adam: Yeah, usually it’s just greed and hubris, but this one, they had a bad stretch of weather.
[0:34:36 – 0:34:37] Adam: It’s unsinkable, though.
[0:34:38 – 0:34:38] Adam: This one is.
[0:34:38 – 0:34:39] Adam: It’s unsinkable.
[0:34:40 – 0:34:43] Erik: Maybe if you wouldn’t have split it in half and put it back together again.
[0:34:47 – 0:34:50] Adam: I got a bit of a long passage coming up here, so I’m going to have to take a sip.
[0:34:50 – 0:34:51] Erik: Okay.
[0:34:53 – 0:34:58] Erik: So it’s just they broke it in half to get it through a lock and then put it back together?
[0:34:58 – 0:35:03] Adam: Right, and if anybody knows anything about the modern freighters, the Stuart J.
[0:35:03 – 0:35:05] Adam: Court was built in the same way.
[0:35:06 – 0:35:08] Adam: It was the first 1,000-footer.
[0:35:08 – 0:35:12] Adam: They built it and then sailed it up through the St. Lawrence Seaway.
[0:35:12 – 0:35:18] Adam: And then I think also in Cleveland, like cut it in half, added a bunch in the middle and then glued it all back together.
[0:35:18 – 0:35:20] Adam: And there she goes.
[0:35:21 – 0:35:21] Adam: Old number one.
[0:35:22 – 0:35:22] Erik: Yeah.
[0:35:22 – 0:35:23] Erik: Some E6000.
[0:35:23 – 0:35:24] Erik: Yeah.
[0:35:25 – 0:35:26] Erik: Just glue it back together.
[0:35:26 – 0:35:29] Adam: All right.
[0:35:29 – 0:35:30] Adam: I’m ready to go.
[0:35:31 – 0:35:39] Adam: The conditions on Lake Superior deteriorated as the Algoma made her way in a diagonal course across the lake.
[0:35:40 – 0:35:42] Adam: The wind increased steadily and temperatures fell.
[0:35:42 – 0:35:54] Adam: Wind that had begun as a strong, fresh breeze had, by the time the Algoma was halfway across the lake, reached gale force and was threatening to blow her off course.
[0:35:55 – 0:36:02] Adam: The boat made her customary good time throughout the night, with the wind shifting to the northeast, pushing the westward-bound Algoma
[0:36:05 – 0:36:05] Adam: Excuse me.
[0:36:06 – 0:36:09] Adam: Rain and eventually snow squalls fell on the vessel.
[0:36:09 – 0:36:13] Adam: The boat pitched and rolled in increasingly violent seas.
[0:36:13 – 0:36:18] Adam: Most of the crew, whether experienced or not, were too nauseated to sleep.
[0:36:19 – 0:36:25] Adam: As those on the lake that night would remember, the storm was the worst they had ever encountered.
[0:36:26 – 0:36:43] Adam: At one point during the night, 31-year-old first mate Joseph Hastings, who, like the captain, had emigrated from the UK to Ontario, ordered the auxiliary sails hoisted on the Algomas fore and aft masts with the purpose of stabilizing the rolling boat.
[0:36:44 – 0:36:46] Adam: So this is a steamship.
[0:36:46 – 0:36:47] Adam: This is an aside.
[0:36:47 – 0:36:49] Adam: This is a steamship, and they also still had the sails.
[0:36:49 – 0:36:50] Erik: Just in case.
[0:36:51 – 0:36:53] Adam: So they put them up to try and stabilize it.
[0:36:54 – 0:36:54] Adam: It worked.
[0:36:55 – 0:36:58] Adam: and the Algoma’s speed was bolstered by the heavy wind hitting the sails.
[0:36:59 – 0:37:02] Adam: Unfortunately, the maneuver affected the vessel’s holding course.
[0:37:03 – 0:37:03] Adam: Too fast!
[0:37:04 – 0:37:09] Adam: At 4 a.m., Captain Moore knew the Algoma was in proximity of Isle Royale.
[0:37:09 – 0:37:17] Adam: He ordered a lookout posted to watch for lights, and he asked his engineer to shut down the engines while the sails were lowered.
[0:37:18 – 0:37:25] Adam: Knowing that his boat was near the treacherous reef near the island, he ordered his wheelsmen to turn towards the open water.
[0:37:27 – 0:37:29] Adam: He miscalculated the Algoma’s position.
[0:37:30 – 0:37:41] Adam: The boat, tossed around like a cork in the storm, had been blown off course, and as the wheelsmen turned, the vessel ran aground near the southeast shore of the island.
[0:37:42 – 0:37:47] Adam: It was around 4.40 a.m., with only the slightest hint of daylight in the air.
[0:37:48 – 0:37:55] Adam: Mountainous waves pounded the Algoma until she grounded a second time, and the boat immediately started to break apart.
[0:37:58 – 0:38:00] Adam: Pandemonium and confusion ensued.
[0:38:01 – 0:38:09] Adam: Lightly clad passengers, asleep before the loud reports of the groundings, hurried to the deck, unaware of what had happened.
[0:38:09 – 0:38:14] Adam: Waves beating down on the boat washed many overboard before they were able to get a foothold.
[0:38:15 – 0:38:18] Adam: Shouts and screams joined the cacophony of the storm.
[0:38:18 – 0:38:24] Adam: The bow, looking as if it would break away from the stern, was no longer a refuge for anyone.
[0:38:25 – 0:38:27] Adam: Crew members rushed to the back of the boat.
[0:38:27 – 0:38:30] Adam: Three were swept overboard before they reached it.
[0:38:31 – 0:38:39] Adam: Water boarding the Algoma extinguished the engine room fires and disabled the electricity, throwing the vessel into total darkness.
[0:38:40 – 0:38:41] Erik: Total darkness.
[0:38:42 – 0:38:44] Adam: Oh my god.
[0:38:44 – 0:38:54] Adam: Yeah, so this is like a steamship with sails but also electricity and it was dubbed as a very luxurious ride and unsinkable.
[0:38:55 – 0:38:55] Erik: But it did crash.
[0:38:56 – 0:38:59] Adam: And this happened in the middle of the night or early, early morning hours.
[0:38:59 – 0:39:01] Erik: It crashed on Isle Royale though, so that
[0:39:01 – 0:39:05] Adam: Yeah, but they’re like, we think we’re near Isle Royale.
[0:39:05 – 0:39:08] Adam: Maybe we just turn off the engines and listen and look.
[0:39:08 – 0:39:09] Adam: Bam!
[0:39:09 – 0:39:11] Adam: They just hit it anyways.
[0:39:11 – 0:39:13] Adam: The wave just pushed them right into it.
[0:39:13 – 0:39:17] Erik: Was there places on the island that people could survive the night?
[0:39:18 – 0:39:19] Adam: We’re about to find out.
[0:39:19 – 0:39:25] Adam: Oh, God.
[0:39:25 – 0:39:25] Adam: Yikes.
[0:39:27 – 0:39:28] Adam: The precise…
[0:39:28 – 0:39:29] Adam: Hold on.
[0:39:30 – 0:39:33] Adam: The precise number of those lost on the Algoma would never be known.
[0:39:34 – 0:39:41] Adam: Exact passenger lists were not kept by the Canadian Pacific, and estimations were the best that could be done.
[0:39:41 – 0:39:42] Adam: These Canadians.
[0:39:42 – 0:39:47] Adam: The numbers reported fluctuated wildly from 30 to over 50, including crew members.
[0:39:49 – 0:39:52] Adam: One overheated newspaper account reported that… All were lost!
[0:39:53 – 0:39:53] Erik: No.
[0:39:54 – 0:39:55] Adam: A hundred may have died.
[0:39:55 – 0:39:56] Adam: Okay.
[0:39:58 – 0:39:59] Adam: One fact cannot be disputed.
[0:39:59 – 0:40:07] Adam: More lives were lost on the Algoma than in any single wreck in Lake Superior history, and that record still stands today.
[0:40:07 – 0:40:08] Erik: Oh, no.
[0:40:08 – 0:40:10] Erik: It’s not a record you want.
[0:40:13 – 0:40:13] Adam: Yeah, no.
[0:40:13 – 0:40:14] Adam: They’re all messed up.
[0:40:14 – 0:40:17] Adam: You can look at these guys.
[0:40:17 – 0:40:19] Adam: There’s the ass of the boat.
[0:40:19 – 0:40:21] Erik: Just the butt of it?
[0:40:22 – 0:40:22] Adam: Yeah.
[0:40:22 – 0:40:22] Adam: Wow.
[0:40:22 – 0:40:22] Erik: Wow.
[0:40:24 – 0:40:26] Erik: There’s chunks of that thing still out there too, I imagine.
[0:40:27 – 0:40:27] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:40:27 – 0:40:28] Adam: It’s right there on the edge of the shore.
[0:40:29 – 0:40:40] Adam: But like everything, it’s like a lot of these wrecks, they got hung up on the rocks and like the one half of the boat’s up in the rocks and the other half’s in like 200 feet of water down there.
[0:40:40 – 0:40:41] Erik: Yeah.
[0:40:41 – 0:40:45] Adam: Because it’s a reef and that just goes all the way down, all the way down.
[0:40:52 – 0:40:52] Adam: All right.
[0:40:52 – 0:40:54] Adam: We got one more shipwreck to discuss tonight.
[0:40:54 – 0:40:55] Erik: Okay.
[0:40:55 – 0:40:56] Adam: That’s going to be the end of tonight’s show.
[0:40:56 – 0:40:57] Adam: Good.
[0:40:57 – 0:40:59] Erik: Not good, but great.
[0:40:59 – 0:40:59] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:40:59 – 0:41:01] Adam: How much more can you talk about shipwrecks?
[0:41:01 – 0:41:04] Adam: I can talk about them every week for the rest of my life.
[0:41:04 – 0:41:06] Erik: You could just turn it into a shipwreck show.
[0:41:07 – 0:41:08] Erik: November, it is.
[0:41:10 – 0:41:17] Adam: And I will just take this moment to say that anybody is enjoying these episodes, if any of you are.
[0:41:17 – 0:41:18] Erik: I think people are.
[0:41:19 – 0:41:24] Adam: Go check out the book, Too Much Sea for Their Decks by Michael Schumacher.
[0:41:25 – 0:41:27] Adam: I’m leaving a lot out.
[0:41:28 – 0:41:29] Erik: As we do.
[0:41:29 – 0:41:30] Adam: We’re skipping half the wrecks.
[0:41:31 – 0:41:34] Adam: So there’s a lot more stories in here and there’s a lot more detail.
[0:41:34 – 0:41:38] Erik: There’s a lot more pork on them bones.
[0:41:39 – 0:41:41] Adam: Yeah, and these pork, they’re staying on deck.
[0:41:42 – 0:41:44] Adam: There’s not too much pork for their decks.
[0:41:44 – 0:41:45] Adam: It’s too much seeds for their deck.
[0:41:45 – 0:41:48] Erik: Dry pork upon these decks.
[0:41:48 – 0:41:59] Adam: So I’m trying my best to tell an interesting tale and give the best account I can in podcast form of these and trying to stay true to the book.
[0:42:00 – 0:42:17] Adam: to the ships themselves and to the sea, but nothing can replace just reading the book because there’s a lot more detail in here that we just, you know, when you’re keeping notes and trying to tell the story, you’ve got to cut most of it out, frankly.
[0:42:17 – 0:42:18] Erik: Be true to the Algoma.
[0:42:19 – 0:42:19] Adam: Yeah.
[0:42:19 – 0:42:23] Adam: So last up on the show, actually, how’s your beer doing?
[0:42:25 – 0:42:26] Erik: I’m, oh.
[0:42:27 – 0:42:28] Adam: I think I’m ready for another one.
[0:42:29 – 0:42:30] Erik: Oh, no.
[0:42:32 – 0:42:33] Erik: Another fest beer?
[0:42:35 – 0:42:35] Adam: Please.
[0:42:36 – 0:42:37] Adam: More fest beer.
[0:42:37 – 0:42:40] Adam: I hope you’re a solo trip.
[0:42:41 – 0:42:44] Adam: Did you end up making it to Kakakabic Lake?
[0:42:44 – 0:42:45] Adam: Ridiculous fin?
[0:42:46 – 0:42:47] Adam: That’s a big ass loop.
[0:42:48 – 0:42:49] Adam: That is a big loop.
[0:42:50 – 0:42:51] Adam: What is it?
[0:42:51 – 0:42:52] Adam: 53 mile loop?
[0:42:52 – 0:42:52] Adam: Yeah.
[0:42:52 – 0:42:53] Adam: Solo.
[0:42:53 – 0:42:54] Adam: You didn’t end up on the rocks.
[0:42:55 – 0:42:57] Erik: All on one side.
[0:42:59 – 0:43:00] Adam: Just kept paddling in circles.
[0:43:01 – 0:43:02] Erik: It’s a right-hand paddler.
[0:43:02 – 0:43:07] Adam: Actually, what Ridiculous Finn didn’t tell anybody was that he was in a sidewheeler.
[0:43:07 – 0:43:08] Erik: Oh, no.
[0:43:08 – 0:43:10] Erik: I don’t think that’s even legal.
[0:43:10 – 0:43:11] Adam: 19th century sidewheeler?
[0:43:12 – 0:43:14] Adam: And you could go right over the portages with those.
[0:43:14 – 0:43:17] Adam: You just sidewheel your way right over the portage.
[0:43:17 – 0:43:21] Erik: Yeah, those boats are used to getting smashed into rocks.
[0:43:21 – 0:43:22] Adam: Built to smash.
[0:43:22 – 0:43:23] Erik: Built to smash.
[0:43:23 – 0:43:24] Erik: Built to sink.
[0:43:25 – 0:43:26] Erik: Built to sink.
[0:43:27 – 0:43:37] Adam: Last up on this evening’s programming for episode, I don’t know, 309 is The Monarch.
[0:43:37 – 0:43:39] Adam: Have you ever heard of The Monarch?
[0:43:39 – 0:43:39] Adam: La Monarca.
[0:43:39 – 0:43:41] Adam: What a great name for a boat.
[0:43:42 – 0:43:44] Adam: This story takes place on December 7th, 1906.
[0:43:45 – 0:43:47] Adam: Nice turn of the century.
[0:43:47 – 0:43:48] Adam: We’re into the 1900s now.
[0:43:51 – 0:44:03] Adam: The Monarch was launched in 1890 and became the flagship for the Northwest Transportation Fleet under the command of Edward Robertson.
[0:44:03 – 0:44:08] Adam: The main route was Port Arthur to Duluth to Sarnia, Ontario.
[0:44:09 – 0:44:09] Erik: Oh, classic.
[0:44:09 – 0:44:10] Erik: Sarnia.
[0:44:10 – 0:44:15] Adam: I like how for most of this story that Thunder Bay is not called Thunder Bay.
[0:44:15 – 0:44:17] Adam: It’s usually just called Port Arthur.
[0:44:18 – 0:44:18] Adam: Other things.
[0:44:19 – 0:44:20] Adam: Other things.
[0:44:20 – 0:44:21] Adam: Never called the Lakehead.
[0:44:25 – 0:44:28] Adam: Anyhow, it’s a pretty nice looking boat.
[0:44:28 – 0:44:29] Adam: You want to see the picture there?
[0:44:29 – 0:44:29] Adam: Look at that thing.
[0:44:30 – 0:44:30] Erik: That’s a big one.
[0:44:31 – 0:44:32] Adam: That’s a big one.
[0:44:32 – 0:44:34] Adam: Compared to what we’ve seen tonight.
[0:44:34 – 0:44:40] Adam: 259-footer, but it was wooden with iron reinforcements.
[0:44:41 – 0:44:41] Adam: Cladding?
[0:44:41 – 0:44:42] Adam: Iron cladding?
[0:44:42 – 0:44:44] Adam: Yeah, iron clad.
[0:44:44 – 0:44:50] Adam: All right, you ready?
[0:44:50 – 0:44:51] Adam: The Monarch…
[0:44:54 – 0:45:01] Adam: The monarch, at the beginning of her life on the lakes, was painted completely white, with the exception of a black smokestack.
[0:45:02 – 0:45:06] Adam: There was no passenger boat like her on the Great Lakes in appearance or performance.
[0:45:07 – 0:45:09] Adam: The monarch’s years of service were marred.
[0:45:11 – 0:45:12] Erik: Marred?
[0:45:12 – 0:45:13] Adam: They were marred.
[0:45:13 – 0:45:14] Adam: Marred by the mar?
[0:45:15 – 0:45:19] Adam: By several minor scrapes and one significant event.
[0:45:19 – 0:45:20] Adam: Yeah, I don’t know.
[0:45:20 – 0:45:24] Adam: They go on and on about it, but this thing was like, again, it was like the Titanic.
[0:45:24 – 0:45:28] Adam: Like, wow, if you want to sail the lakes in luxury, get on the Monarch.
[0:45:28 – 0:45:30] Erik: This thing is speedy.
[0:45:30 – 0:45:43] Erik: Did people back in those days ever just get sick of hearing all of the hyperbole that went into describing how unsinkable, how fast, how fashionable, how incredibly technologically advanced this new ship is?
[0:45:43 – 0:45:46] Erik: It’s nothing like anything you’ve ever seen before.
[0:45:46 – 0:45:47] Adam: And then cut to two months later.
[0:45:47 – 0:45:50] Erik: It’s on the bottom of the ocean.
[0:45:51 – 0:45:53] Erik: This one’s down at the bottom.
[0:45:55 – 0:45:57] Adam: Yeah, nowadays it’s like, you want to go to the airport?
[0:45:57 – 0:46:00] Adam: It’s a tube with some seats in it.
[0:46:00 – 0:46:01] Adam: Enjoy your nuts.
[0:46:02 – 0:46:03] Adam: If you’re lucky.
[0:46:03 – 0:46:06] Erik: You’re basically going to be standing up the whole time.
[0:46:06 – 0:46:06] Adam: Yep.
[0:46:07 – 0:46:08] Adam: You’ll get there eventually.
[0:46:08 – 0:46:09] Adam: Don’t worry about it.
[0:46:10 – 0:46:17] Adam: Disaster struck the monarch’s last scheduled trip of the season, beginning in Port Arthur on December 6th.
[0:46:18 – 0:46:31] Adam: The monarch loaded a cargo of wheat, oats, flour, canned salmon, and other miscellaneous general merchandise, left Port Arthur at 525 p.m.
[0:46:32 – 0:46:36] Adam: Weather conditions were not favorable, but they were not prohibitive either.
[0:46:36 – 0:46:39] Adam: Air temperatures were sub-zero, snow fell,
[0:46:40 – 0:46:42] Adam: and a fresh wind blew the boat across the water.
[0:46:42 – 0:46:45] Adam: Oh, my God.
[0:46:47 – 0:46:49] Adam: Captain Robertson grew concerned.
[0:46:50 – 0:46:59] Adam: In average sailing conditions, it only took about two hours and 20 minutes to move from Thunder Cape to Passage Island Lighthouse.
[0:46:59 – 0:47:00] Erik: Thunder Cape?
[0:47:00 – 0:47:05] Adam: Despite, or maybe because of, the storm pushing her, the monarch moved rapidly.
[0:47:06 – 0:47:14] Adam: Early in the crossing, Robertson contacted the engine room and asked that they deploy the Tafrael log.
[0:47:16 – 0:47:18] Adam: Have you ever heard of a Tafrael log?
[0:47:18 – 0:47:20] Adam: Deploy it?
[0:47:20 – 0:47:22] Adam: Deploy the Tafrael log, he said.
[0:47:22 – 0:47:24] Erik: No, is that some kind of like an outrigger?
[0:47:25 – 0:47:32] Adam: This is a torpedo-shaped mechanism that, trailing the boat, measured distance traveled.
[0:47:34 – 0:47:35] Erik: Okay.
[0:47:36 – 0:47:44] Adam: Sailing blind in what he figured to be in a proximity of the narrow passage near Isle Royale, Robertson asked for a log reading.
[0:47:45 – 0:47:46] Adam: The machine had frozen.
[0:47:47 – 0:47:48] Adam: Read the log.
[0:47:48 – 0:47:49] Adam: The machine had frozen.
[0:47:50 – 0:47:52] Adam: The log was frozen, they said.
[0:47:52 – 0:47:54] Adam: And it read that the boat had sailed only 10 miles.
[0:47:55 – 0:48:18] Adam: oh wow the monarch had traveled much much more than that oh no so well we’ve only gone 10 miles we’re gonna be fine so they’re like oh they’re sailing blind and he’s like send out the log they said yes sir and then he goes like 10 minutes later he’s like so what’s the log saying they’re like the log says beep boop beep boop the log’s wrong the log is wrong and then crunch
[0:48:19 – 0:48:20] Erik: Smash.
[0:48:20 – 0:48:21] Adam: Goddamn log.
[0:48:21 – 0:48:24] Erik: You can’t trust these Tafreya logs.
[0:48:24 – 0:48:26] Erik: Captain says, I blame the log.
[0:48:32 – 0:48:34] Adam: The solution came.
[0:48:34 – 0:48:35] Adam: Okay, so they crashed.
[0:48:37 – 0:48:38] Adam: I’m just skipping the crash part.
[0:48:39 – 0:48:40] Adam: The crash isn’t exciting.
[0:48:40 – 0:48:43] Adam: They just smashed straight into a rock at full speed once again.
[0:48:43 – 0:48:45] Erik: This is outside of Isle Royale.
[0:48:45 – 0:48:48] Adam: He just, yeah, basically hit Ryle.
[0:48:48 – 0:48:48] Erik: One of the many.
[0:48:48 – 0:48:49] Erik: We might be near it.
[0:48:49 – 0:48:50] Erik: Like, bam.
[0:48:51 – 0:48:52] Adam: You just smoked it.
[0:48:54 – 0:48:55] Adam: So they’re out there.
[0:48:55 – 0:48:56] Adam: They’re stuck.
[0:48:56 – 0:48:57] Adam: Nothing is going right.
[0:48:58 – 0:49:00] Adam: Everybody’s in big trouble here.
[0:49:04 – 0:49:05] Adam: All right, the solution.
[0:49:05 – 0:49:07] Adam: So, yeah, they’re like, I don’t know.
[0:49:07 – 0:49:09] Adam: How the hell are we going to get off this rock they’re stuck on?
[0:49:10 – 0:49:13] Adam: They had gone by a lighthouse, and they’re like, maybe the lighthouse guy saw us.
[0:49:13 – 0:49:15] Erik: Maybe the lighthouse keeper will save us.
[0:49:15 – 0:49:19] Adam: Maybe he heard us smash into the rocks, but we’ve got to get to shore.
[0:49:19 – 0:49:21] Adam: I’m sure he’s not drunk and passed out.
[0:49:21 – 0:49:22] Adam: It was the same thing.
[0:49:22 – 0:49:26] Adam: They’re stuck on a rock, and the boat’s breaking in half.
[0:49:27 – 0:49:29] Adam: Half the boat’s going to sink into 200 feet of water.
[0:49:29 – 0:49:30] Adam: The other half’s going to be stuck on this rock.
[0:49:30 – 0:49:32] Adam: We’ve got to get these people off of here.
[0:49:33 – 0:49:35] Adam: Uh, so what are we going to do?
[0:49:36 – 0:49:45] Adam: The solution came from a crew member, James Jack McCallum, brother of the Monarch’s second mate, a deckhand and a last minute replacement on the boat.
[0:49:46 – 0:49:51] Adam: He suggested that a rope be tied around his waist and then he’d be lowered almost to the waterline.
[0:49:51 – 0:49:56] Adam: Other crewmen would then swing him back and forth like a pendulum until he reached the big rock.
[0:49:57 – 0:50:02] Adam: He could be past a ladder to finish his crossing to shore and scaling on of the cliff.
[0:50:04 – 0:50:05] Erik: Does this sound like a good plan to you?
[0:50:06 – 0:50:09] Erik: Yeah, now that I’m out on this rock, boys, start throwing me the pigs.
[0:50:10 – 0:50:10] Adam: Send the pigs.
[0:50:11 – 0:50:15] Adam: Somehow, after a couple of failed attempts, he did manage to make it to shore.
[0:50:16 – 0:50:26] Adam: He tied a line from the boat to a tree, and one by one, moving hand over hand, the monarch’s 12 passengers and 30 of her crew passed over the tempestuous waters.
[0:50:26 – 0:50:26] Adam: Wow.
[0:50:27 – 0:50:29] Adam: One crewman fell in the lake and drowned.
[0:50:30 – 0:50:32] Adam: Once ashore, the new challenge was survival.
[0:50:33 – 0:50:43] Adam: By the captain’s estimations, they were miles from any town, and everyone was too hungry and exhausted to attempt a trek through the Arctic conditions.
[0:50:44 – 0:50:58] Adam: The stranded victims gathered fallen branches and driftwood to build fires, which Robertson figured would serve two purposes, a warmth and a possible way to get the Passage Island lighthouse keepers or a passing boat’s attention.
[0:50:59 – 0:50:59] Adam: Help!
[0:51:00 – 0:51:16] Adam: The fires, along with a makeshift windbreaker fashioned from the collected wood, provided minimal shelter from the storm, which continued with no sign of relief.
[0:51:17 – 0:51:18] Adam: Other provisions became an issue.
[0:51:19 – 0:51:20] Adam: There were no blankets.
[0:51:20 – 0:51:24] Adam: The one they had was given to the stewardess, Rachel McCormick.
[0:51:25 – 0:51:29] Adam: And food was non-existent, at least in the beginning, Eric.
[0:51:29 – 0:51:41] Adam: But the next morning, after spending a freezing night at the edge of Lake Superior, the group noticed that the storm had washed in some of the canned salmon from the ruptured ship.
[0:51:41 – 0:51:41] Erik: Nice.
[0:51:42 – 0:51:45] Adam: I was going to say, if we’re going cannibalism here, I’m not prepared.
[0:51:45 – 0:51:53] Adam: The individuals gobbled up the meager supply of canned salmon, which they recognized was only temporary nourishment.
[0:51:54 – 0:51:54] Erik: Yeah.
[0:51:54 – 0:51:57] Erik: Well, isn’t it all nourishment temporary?
[0:51:59 – 0:52:00] Adam: Now that’s a real question.
[0:52:00 – 0:52:01] Adam: Think about that.
[0:52:02 – 0:52:02] Adam: Wow.
[0:52:02 – 0:52:03] Erik: Forever nourishment.
[0:52:04 – 0:52:05] Erik: I am forever nourished.
[0:52:05 – 0:52:07] Adam: I am so nourished.
[0:52:08 – 0:52:14] Adam: So they kind of repeated this pattern for three stormy nights camped near the wreck.
[0:52:15 – 0:52:19] Adam: The lighthouse keeper was able to see them, but could not reach them.
[0:52:19 – 0:52:21] Erik: Look at those poor fuckers.
[0:52:21 – 0:52:29] Adam: After three nights, he was able to attempt to paddle over and begin a rescue operation on Sunday when the lake finally calmed.
[0:52:31 – 0:52:32] Erik: Does the lighthouse keeper have a name?
[0:52:33 – 0:52:34] Adam: I don’t have it.
[0:52:34 – 0:52:35] Adam: I don’t think so, actually.
[0:52:36 – 0:52:37] Adam: The lighthouse keeper was unnamed.
[0:52:38 – 0:52:41] Erik: Even back then, no name.
[0:52:41 – 0:52:50] Adam: Tugs arrived from Port Arthur, and the survivors had to hike across the island, across frozen terrain, to the lee of the diminishing storm.
[0:52:50 – 0:52:51] Adam: Wow.
[0:52:51 – 0:52:53] Adam: So they came over, basically, and were like,
[0:52:54 – 0:52:56] Erik: Go over to the other side.
[0:52:56 – 0:52:58] Erik: It’s too goddamn windy.
[0:52:58 – 0:52:59] Adam: And they’re like, what?
[0:52:59 – 0:53:01] Erik: Is this actual Isle Royale they’re on?
[0:53:01 – 0:53:01] Adam: Yeah.
[0:53:01 – 0:53:11] Adam: So they had to hike to the other side of Isle Royale in December after spending three nights camped just burning driftwood and eating canned salmon.
[0:53:11 – 0:53:12] Adam: They’re like, we can’t land.
[0:53:12 – 0:53:13] Adam: Go to the other side.
[0:53:14 – 0:53:15] Adam: Throw me some food.
[0:53:15 – 0:53:17] Adam: So they all hike to the other side.
[0:53:17 – 0:53:18] Adam: With no nourishment.
[0:53:19 – 0:53:19] Erik: That’s a big hike.
[0:53:20 – 0:53:20] Erik: I know.
[0:53:21 – 0:53:24] Erik: Depending on which actual point of the island they were at.
[0:53:25 – 0:53:27] Adam: But miraculously, everyone survived.
[0:53:28 – 0:53:29] Adam: Except for that one guy.
[0:53:30 – 0:53:32] Adam: I added this part because they’re like, everybody survived.
[0:53:32 – 0:53:35] Adam: They’re like, what about that one guy who fell off and drowned two pages ago?
[0:53:35 – 0:53:36] Erik: The rope climbing man?
[0:53:37 – 0:53:37] Erik: Yeah.
[0:53:37 – 0:53:39] Erik: Just dropped into the abyss like Cliffhanger?
[0:53:39 – 0:53:40] Adam: Never saw him again.
[0:53:40 – 0:53:41] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:53:41 – 0:53:42] Adam: Well, just keep going.
[0:53:43 – 0:53:50] Adam: Salvagers later retrieved the ship’s engines and boiler and then dynamited the boat and sold the scraps.
[0:53:51 – 0:53:53] Erik: Yeah, we can’t quite get her off this rock.
[0:53:53 – 0:53:59] Adam: So they put a bunch of TNT into the boat, blew it to smithereens, and then gathered up all the scraps and then sold those.
[0:53:59 – 0:54:09] Erik: It’s not like a ghost ship situation where they could just patch it and hawk at sea and then drag it to somebody who buys old boats?
[0:54:09 – 0:54:09] Erik: No.
[0:54:10 – 0:54:11] Adam: No, you’ll like this one, though.
[0:54:11 – 0:54:12] Adam: It’s worth millions.
[0:54:12 – 0:54:14] Adam: This one’s haunted as hell.
[0:54:15 – 0:54:30] Adam: The salvage crew was also caught in a storm soon thereafter, and near Mishapikotan Island, they also capsized, killing two crew members and sending the loot back to the bottom of Gichigami once again.
[0:54:30 – 0:54:37] Adam: Yeah, so one guy drowned in this shipwreck trying to climb from a rope to the rock.
[0:54:37 – 0:54:45] Adam: And then later they came to salvage the wreck, and then they capsized, and two more people died on the capsized salvage mission.
[0:54:46 – 0:54:47] Adam: Yeah.
[0:54:47 – 0:54:49] Adam: So just goes to show you.
[0:54:49 – 0:54:52] Erik: But like it is said, never gives up her loot.
[0:54:54 – 0:54:55] Adam: Keep your loot.
[0:54:55 – 0:54:56] Adam: Keep your secrets.
[0:54:57 – 0:54:59] Adam: And that’s the monarch for you.
[0:54:59 – 0:55:00] Adam: Wow.
[0:55:00 – 0:55:01] Adam: Here’s a nice picture of it.
[0:55:02 – 0:55:08] Adam: Grounded near the shore so that you can see the rope that they had to climb across.
[0:55:08 – 0:55:13] Adam: I don’t know why, but these shipwrecks, you’re reading about them, it’s like, it’s an old wooden boat.
[0:55:14 – 0:55:14] Adam: It’s tiny.
[0:55:14 – 0:55:16] Erik: Yeah, that’s a big-ass boat.
[0:55:16 – 0:55:23] Adam: We started this series with the Stranger, which was like, all right, it’s still huge, but it’s a small boat.
[0:55:24 – 0:55:28] Adam: These are like hundreds and hundreds of feet, very tall, big boats.
[0:55:28 – 0:55:31] Adam: They should not have been steaming them so hard into the rocks.
[0:55:32 – 0:55:33] Adam: But yeah, look at this picture.
[0:55:33 – 0:55:35] Adam: I mean, that’s a massive boat.
[0:55:35 – 0:55:36] Adam: You can fit a lot of hog on there.
[0:55:37 – 0:55:39] Erik: That’s how I measure all of my boats.
[0:55:39 – 0:55:42] Erik: All my boats and most of my… How many hogs can I fit on that thing?
[0:55:42 – 0:55:42] Erik: Yeah.
[0:55:43 – 0:55:45] Adam: That’s how I measure everything in my life.
[0:55:45 – 0:55:45] Adam: Yeah.
[0:55:46 – 0:55:46] Adam: How many hog?
[0:55:47 – 0:55:47] Adam: Hog capacity?
[0:55:48 – 0:55:48] Adam: Yeah.
[0:55:48 – 0:55:48] Adam: Yeah.
[0:55:52 – 0:55:54] Adam: Hogs and dry good.
[0:55:54 – 0:55:56] Adam: Canned salmon.
[0:55:57 – 0:55:57] Adam: Yeah.
[0:55:57 – 0:55:58] Adam: I like the story.
[0:55:59 – 0:56:00] Adam: Here’s another angle of it.
[0:56:01 – 0:56:02] Adam: The stranded monarch.
[0:56:02 – 0:56:03] Erik: Jeez, yeah.
[0:56:03 – 0:56:05] Erik: The back half is just fully in line.
[0:56:05 – 0:56:07] Adam: The pilot house is just jammed up on this rock.
[0:56:08 – 0:56:11] Adam: It’s not even like it was like, oh, they just grazed the rock.
[0:56:11 – 0:56:15] Adam: If they didn’t hit that rock, they would have just T-boned Isle Royale eventually.
[0:56:15 – 0:56:17] Adam: And that’s essentially what most of these boats are doing.
[0:56:18 – 0:56:18] Erik: Yeah.
[0:56:18 – 0:56:22] Erik: And the whole back half too, like you said, is in like 400 feet of water.
[0:56:22 – 0:56:23] Adam: No, it’s just gone.
[0:56:23 – 0:56:24] Adam: Like it’s down there.
[0:56:25 – 0:56:26] Adam: Yeah, I know.
[0:56:26 – 0:56:29] Adam: But yeah, this one was sad because it was bad already.
[0:56:30 – 0:56:33] Adam: Somehow they all lived, except for that one poor guy who fell off the rope.
[0:56:33 – 0:56:34] Erik: Not to be mentioned.
[0:56:34 – 0:56:42] Adam: And then people who went out to salvage the wreck later, then more lost their life trying to salvage it.
[0:56:42 – 0:56:43] Erik: Yeah, that’s their own fault though.
[0:56:43 – 0:56:45] Erik: How many people are out there doing salvage work?
[0:56:46 – 0:56:47] Erik: I mean, they make movies about them.
[0:56:47 – 0:56:47] Adam: I know.
[0:56:47 – 0:56:53] Adam: Well, I didn’t know that, and apparently it’s a bigger deal on the lakes and the seas than I knew about.
[0:56:53 – 0:56:54] Erik: It’s going to be worth millions.
[0:56:55 – 0:57:08] Adam: I have an Edmund Fitzgerald fact to end the show with that I just found out, and anybody listening to this probably realizes that I’ve watched every single documentary I could find and read a lot about the Edmund Fitzgerald.
[0:57:08 – 0:57:11] Adam: And there’s very little that I hear about it that is surprising to me.
[0:57:11 – 0:57:19] Adam: And frankly, I read a lot of BS online that’s just completely wrong and people are just spouting off and they don’t know what they’re talking about.
[0:57:20 – 0:57:21] Adam: Left field wackos.
[0:57:21 – 0:57:23] Adam: This one, though, did surprise me.
[0:57:23 – 0:57:33] Adam: I knew their radars were down, and I knew that they were in big trouble, but I did not realize that they didn’t have depth finders on those boats.
[0:57:33 – 0:57:33] Adam: None of them?
[0:57:34 – 0:57:37] Adam: They literally were testing the… Not testing.
[0:57:37 – 0:57:43] Adam: They measured depth with a rope with a weight on it still in those days because…
[0:57:43 – 0:57:51] Adam: I don’t know how that came up, but it was about how they probably or possibly shoaled at Caribou Island in six fathoms.
[0:57:52 – 0:57:53] Adam: And they’re like, whoa.
[0:57:53 – 0:57:58] Adam: Even in a storm, because even in calm seas, they were only measuring it with a rope with a weight.
[0:58:00 – 0:58:05] Adam: So like in crazy 25-foot seas or 50-foot seas, how are you measuring the bottom then?
[0:58:06 – 0:58:07] Erik: Yeah, you’re up on top of a wave.
[0:58:07 – 0:58:08] Erik: Yeah.
[0:58:08 – 0:58:09] Erik: We got plenty of space.
[0:58:09 – 0:58:10] Erik: Oh, God, no.
[0:58:10 – 0:58:11] Erik: Here comes the bottom.
[0:58:11 – 0:58:11] Adam: Yeah.
[0:58:12 – 0:58:21] Adam: And again, I feel like the story of the Cumberland where they hit that rock and it’s like if they had been 100 feet left or right of that, they wouldn’t even hit it.
[0:58:22 – 0:58:27] Adam: And I think when we were doing the series on the Mighty Fitz, that was kind of the sentiment of how it ended up happening.
[0:58:27 – 0:58:33] Adam: It was like, yeah, they were in some nasty areas of crazy undulating bottoms.
[0:58:34 – 0:58:35] Adam: They had no idea how deep it was.
[0:58:35 – 0:58:37] Adam: Their charts were screwy.
[0:58:37 – 0:58:39] Adam: Their radar was down.
[0:58:39 – 0:58:41] Adam: They didn’t realize how close to the island they were, but like…
[0:58:42 – 0:58:53] Adam: Had they just been 100 feet left or right of where they were, they probably would never have hit bottom, shoaled it, and hogged that bastard and then knocked their fence rails down and started taking on water.
[0:58:54 – 0:58:55] Erik: Yeah.
[0:58:55 – 0:58:57] Adam: Like it is said, never gives up her dead, Eric.
[0:58:58 – 0:59:00] Erik: Never gives up her hogs either.
[0:59:00 – 0:59:01] Adam: Yeah, I like that.
[0:59:02 – 0:59:08] Adam: Yeah, we started shipwreck season a couple years ago with hogging as a term for how you should not bend a boat.
[0:59:09 – 0:59:14] Adam: And this week on shipwreck season, we found that hogging has taken on a whole new term of that.
[0:59:14 – 0:59:17] Adam: When you’re in trouble, you just push all the hogs.
[0:59:17 – 0:59:19] Adam: It cannot be easy to just push 150 hogs off of a boat.
[0:59:21 – 0:59:23] Adam: You didn’t want to go in the water.
[0:59:23 – 0:59:24] Adam: Not yet.
[0:59:24 – 0:59:28] Adam: I couldn’t get my three-year-old son to take a sweater off for like seven minutes today.
[0:59:28 – 0:59:30] Adam: I was wrestling him like a hog.
[0:59:30 – 0:59:32] Adam: Yeah, what does he weigh, like 50 pounds?
[0:59:32 – 0:59:33] Adam: Not even close.
[0:59:33 – 0:59:33] Erik: Yeah.
[0:59:33 – 0:59:34] Adam: But he is strong.
[0:59:34 – 0:59:36] Erik: 150 to 250 plus pound.
[0:59:36 – 0:59:41] Adam: I had him in a bedroom and could not get him to take the sweater off.
[0:59:41 – 0:59:50] Adam: And you’re telling me that in a crazy sea, you’re able to just push 150 hogs off of a moving boat into the water.
[0:59:51 – 0:59:52] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:59:52 – 0:59:53] Adam: Maybe hogs like to swim.
[0:59:53 – 0:59:54] Adam: Am I wrong?
[0:59:54 – 0:59:55] Erik: I don’t think they like to swim.
[0:59:55 – 1:00:02] Adam: I’m going to assume nobody wants to go off of a ship into Lake Superior ever.
[1:00:02 – 1:00:05] Erik: I don’t think anybody wants to be in Lake Superior in November except for fish.
[1:00:06 – 1:00:08] Erik: Maybe an occasional duck.
[1:00:08 – 1:00:09] Erik: But yeah, I don’t know.
[1:00:10 – 1:00:14] Adam: I can’t imagine that it was easy to get 150 hogs.
[1:00:14 – 1:00:24] Erik: I was thinking like maybe this day and age you could have like some kind of an automated like bulldozer pen thing where like the wall just like, you know, Star Wars wall just like starts pushing them.
[1:00:24 – 1:00:26] Adam: But, like, back then, like, you literally had to, like.
[1:00:27 – 1:00:27] Adam: Dispatch the hogs.
[1:00:27 – 1:00:29] Adam: They had to send some deckhands out there.
[1:00:29 – 1:00:32] Erik: Just, like, kneeing them in the neck enough times.
[1:00:32 – 1:00:34] Adam: Get all your treverns out on the deck with their.
[1:00:34 – 1:00:36] Adam: They don’t have tasers.
[1:00:36 – 1:00:39] Adam: Send trevern out there with a hammer and get all the hogs in the sea.
[1:00:39 – 1:00:44] Erik: Yeah, I was going to say, like, you probably will end up losing, like, a deckhand or two just in, like, the madness.
[1:00:44 – 1:00:45] Erik: The hogs will turn on them.
[1:00:45 – 1:00:48] Erik: Yeah, trying to get the whole pile of hogs into the lake.
[1:00:48 – 1:00:49] Adam: They’re not going to tell you about that.
[1:00:50 – 1:00:51] Adam: No.
[1:00:51 – 1:00:56] Adam: Yeah, we got 150 hogs off the boat and ultimately got ourselves off the shoal.
[1:00:57 – 1:00:58] Adam: We also lost a couple of deckhands.
[1:00:58 – 1:01:01] Erik: Well, those are basically just standing hogs.
[1:01:02 – 1:01:03] Erik: That’s the cost of operating.
[1:01:04 – 1:01:05] Erik: Sentient hogs.
[1:01:05 – 1:01:06] Adam: That’s all we are.
[1:01:06 – 1:01:08] Adam: The hogs are also sentient.
[1:01:08 – 1:01:09] Adam: Are they not?
[1:01:11 – 1:01:11] Adam: Yeah, maybe.
[1:01:11 – 1:01:12] Erik: Not like that.
[1:01:13 – 1:01:14] Erik: Not quite the same way.
[1:01:14 – 1:01:16] Erik: They’re not wearing top hats.
[1:01:16 – 1:01:17] Erik: They knew what was coming for them.
[1:01:18 – 1:01:19] Erik: I’m sure they weren’t happy about it.
[1:01:20 – 1:01:22] Adam: Yeah, the hogs knew more.
[1:01:22 – 1:01:25] Erik: I’m sure it was just… God, can you imagine being in that moment?
[1:01:26 – 1:01:28] Erik: Get the hogs off the boat, boys.
[1:01:29 – 1:01:29] Adam: We’re too heavy.
[1:01:29 – 1:01:31] Adam: Got to get the hogs off.
[1:01:31 – 1:01:32] Erik: You try to push one.
[1:01:32 – 1:01:35] Erik: It’s like, well, this is going to be a lot more work.
[1:01:35 – 1:01:36] Erik: Hogs are strong.
[1:01:36 – 1:01:37] Erik: Yeah.
[1:01:37 – 1:01:38] Erik: They don’t want to go anywhere.
[1:01:38 – 1:01:39] Adam: You know what the key is, though?
[1:01:39 – 1:01:42] Adam: Their little hooves are too slippery.
[1:01:43 – 1:01:44] Erik: Grease the hooves.
[1:01:44 – 1:01:45] Adam: Grease the decks.
[1:01:46 – 1:01:47] Adam: Just slide them off.
[1:01:48 – 1:01:49] Adam: Like a curling stone.
[1:01:49 – 1:01:52] Adam: You just sweep a couple mild sweeps and there they go.
[1:01:53 – 1:01:54] Adam: Right overboard.
[1:01:54 – 1:02:00] Adam: So that is part two of Too Much Sea for Their Decks.
[1:02:00 – 1:02:03] Adam: Shipwrecks of the Minnesota North Shore and Isle Royale.
[1:02:04 – 1:02:05] Erik: Part two of To Be Determined.
[1:02:06 – 1:02:31] Adam: i don’t know it’s gonna at least be three possibly four we’re gonna keep uh keep reading i’m gonna be reading this boat on the airplane ride tomorrow hopefully or i’ll be sleeping we’ll see but i’m bringing the book with us and uh next week we’ll probably conclude the isle royale shipwrecks that are included in this story but there’s so many more so many more ridiculous amounts of boats at the bottom of this lake like what are people thinking
[1:02:33 – 1:02:33] Adam: I don’t know.
[1:02:33 – 1:02:36] Adam: They didn’t have any highways.
[1:02:36 – 1:02:37] Adam: That’s what they were thinking.
[1:02:37 – 1:02:42] Adam: And the only way to get stuff around was on crazy wooden boats held together by glue.
[1:02:42 – 1:02:42] Adam: Yeah.
[1:02:43 – 1:02:45] Adam: They didn’t have nails.
[1:02:45 – 1:02:48] Adam: They had wood, glue, and hogs.
[1:02:48 – 1:02:49] Erik: I think they had nails.
[1:02:49 – 1:02:50] Adam: I don’t know about that.
[1:02:51 – 1:02:54] Adam: Even if you did, would you want to build a boat with glue and nails?
[1:02:55 – 1:02:59] Erik: I mean, I might throw a nail or two in, but maybe a wooden nail.
[1:02:59 – 1:03:00] Adam: Dovetail joints.
[1:03:00 – 1:03:00] Adam: There you go.
[1:03:01 – 1:03:01] Adam: All right.
[1:03:02 – 1:03:04] Adam: That’s where we’re going to leave it.
[1:03:04 – 1:03:15] Adam: Thank you for the Oktoberfest Feist beers from Fairweather Brewing to dear friend of the show, Ridiculous Finn.
[1:03:15 – 1:03:16] Adam: You’re ridiculous.
[1:03:16 – 1:03:17] Adam: Thank you.
[1:03:17 – 1:03:18] Adam: It’s the second sponsor for you.
[1:03:18 – 1:03:22] Adam: I hope you had a great solo trip, and I hope you weren’t nervous.
[1:03:22 – 1:03:24] Adam: I hope you’re confident.
[1:03:25 – 1:03:35] Adam: Unlike these captains, who are definitely nervous and skittish, and anybody out there is trying to throw a little log out the back of your boat to measure distance, don’t even fucking bother.
[1:03:36 – 1:03:38] Adam: That log’s going to lie to you.
[1:03:38 – 1:03:39] Adam: From Tumble Home.
[1:03:39 – 1:03:41] Adam: Lying logs.
[1:03:41 – 1:03:44] Adam: A proud Boundary Waters podcast.
[1:03:45 – 1:03:46] Adam: That’s where we’re going to leave it.
[1:03:46 – 1:03:49] Adam: We’ve got to go… Where are we watching?
[1:03:49 – 1:03:51] Adam: We’re going to watch a cinema together.
[1:03:51 – 1:03:52] Erik: We’ve got to get at least…
[1:03:52 – 1:03:54] Erik: Four to five hours of sleep.
[1:03:54 – 1:03:55] Adam: And then we’re going to try and sleep.
[1:03:55 – 1:03:57] Adam: So thank you for being here, Eric.
[1:03:57 – 1:04:04] Adam: Thank you for hosting us here in Studio V. And thank you to our Patreons for your continued support of this podcast.
[1:04:05 – 1:04:08] Adam: As we always say on Tumblr, life is precious.
[1:04:08 – 1:04:10] Adam: Every hog’s a miracle.
[1:04:11 – 1:04:13] Adam: Toot toot and ahoy matey.
[1:04:13 – 1:04:16] Erik: I thought you were going to say oink oink.
[1:04:16 – 1:04:16] Adam: Oink oink.
[1:04:19 – 1:04:19] UNKNOWN: Thank you.