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[0:00:00 – 0:00:04] Erik: Hello, ladies and gentlemen.
[0:00:05 – 0:00:10] Erik: This is a special Tumble Home podcast coming at you.
[0:00:10 – 0:00:12] Erik: I am Eric, joined by Adam.
[0:00:12 – 0:00:14] Erik: Hello, distinguished guests.
[0:00:14 – 0:00:16] Erik: Distinguished guests.
[0:00:17 – 0:00:20] Erik: We’re doing a little preview here for you.
[0:00:21 – 0:00:23] Erik: You know, it’s been a year.
[0:00:25 – 0:00:32] Erik: And the support we have on Patreon up to this point has been incredible.
[0:00:33 – 0:00:35] Erik: We love you all.
[0:00:36 – 0:00:43] Erik: Even if you don’t support us on Patreon, we love our listeners that reach out via email and are involved in the show.
[0:00:43 – 0:00:46] Erik: It’s a huge part of our lives.
[0:00:48 – 0:01:10] Erik: It’s a conversation, I mean, me and Adam were friends well before Tumble Home, but it has forged the sword of friendship into a, like, end of Zelda-esque quality sword that we have built up over hours, days, and months of friendship that this show has only added to.
[0:01:12 – 0:01:12] Erik: And we love it.
[0:01:14 – 0:01:23] Erik: And we’re kind of thinking, at this point, with the Patreon and what we have set up, that some things maybe need to be cleared.
[0:01:24 – 0:01:26] Erik: Some things maybe need to be adjusted.
[0:01:27 – 0:01:29] Erik: And we’re going to let you know on kind of what we’re thinking going forward.
[0:01:31 – 0:01:33] Adam: Yeah, we just got to clarify it a little bit.
[0:01:33 – 0:01:34] Adam: It’s been a year.
[0:01:34 – 0:01:37] Adam: Because you don’t want to promise things we’re not actually doing.
[0:01:37 – 0:01:38] Adam: That’s not cool.
[0:01:38 – 0:01:39] Adam: That’s not cool.
[0:01:39 – 0:01:40] Erik: And I feel like…
[0:01:42 – 0:01:45] Erik: We’ve got some levels on Patreon.
[0:01:45 – 0:01:47] Erik: And again, we’re not…
[0:01:47 – 0:01:50] Erik: I assume everybody that’s listening at this point knows what Patreon is.
[0:01:51 – 0:01:57] Erik: But if you’re unaware, we’ll put a link in the show notes to catch you up to speed.
[0:01:58 – 0:01:59] Erik: But what we’re thinking…
[0:01:59 – 0:02:07] Erik: Going forward is a change to some of the levels and what you can get if you want to become a Patreon supporter.
[0:02:09 – 0:02:14] Erik: So the biggest challenge that we have had over the course of the last year with providing…
[0:02:16 – 0:02:37] Erik: extra content to our patrons patrons is what that looks like because inevitably what happens is we’ll record an episode that is meant for the patreon page and it’s like well this is i don’t want to i want to put this out to the world this is good i want to yeah we’re unable to talk for less than an hour about anything
[0:02:37 – 0:02:39] Adam: So then you get like, oh, we’ll just do a short one.
[0:02:40 – 0:02:40] Erik: Yeah.
[0:02:40 – 0:02:42] Adam: And then, well, now we got an hour and 10 minutes.
[0:02:43 – 0:02:44] Adam: Well, that’s a full episode.
[0:02:44 – 0:02:44] Adam: Yeah, well.
[0:02:45 – 0:02:45] Erik: Yeah.
[0:02:45 – 0:02:47] Adam: Can’t keep that from the people.
[0:02:48 – 0:02:48] Erik: No, right.
[0:02:49 – 0:02:51] Erik: And our, I mean…
[0:02:53 – 0:02:55] Erik: It pays the bills.
[0:02:56 – 0:02:59] Adam: I’m glad that we don’t have to constantly read ads.
[0:02:59 – 0:03:01] Adam: Not that it’s even an option.
[0:03:01 – 0:03:03] Erik: No, it’s definitely not an option.
[0:03:03 – 0:03:11] Adam: We always joke like we’re not selling out to the corporate interest, but not that we’ve been approached by corporate interest or anything.
[0:03:12 – 0:03:12] Adam: Yeah.
[0:03:12 – 0:03:15] Adam: And I don’t think if they listen to the show, they would approach us.
[0:03:16 – 0:03:16] Erik: No.
[0:03:16 – 0:03:17] Adam: But we’re not selling out.
[0:03:18 – 0:03:18] Adam: We’re not.
[0:03:18 – 0:03:19] Erik: A little too niche.
[0:03:19 – 0:03:21] Erik: And we are not selling out.
[0:03:21 – 0:03:23] Erik: I love not having to read ads.
[0:03:25 – 0:03:28] Erik: And we are paying the bills to a certain extent.
[0:03:28 – 0:03:31] Erik: And we are putting money towards the…
[0:03:32 – 0:03:35] Erik: efforts to protect the Boundary Waters from sulfide mining.
[0:03:37 – 0:03:57] Erik: But the one thing that we kind of want to clear the air on is, you know, you’ve got your levels that provide you with some stickers and just generally undying support and maybe some Tumblehum t-shirts and even maybe some Coghlan’s surprises that I will send you.
[0:03:58 – 0:04:06] Erik: Um, but it’s mostly the bonus episodes that were kind of over the last year have been struggling with what that looks like and what that should be.
[0:04:06 – 0:04:15] Adam: And I think we’re to the point to be different enough from the regular episodes where it is classified as a bonus episode and not just, well, this is just another extra episode.
[0:04:16 – 0:04:16] Erik: Exactly.
[0:04:17 – 0:04:22] Erik: And I think we’ve kind of found something that fits that niche.
[0:04:23 – 0:04:31] Erik: And, you know, if a little bit of a peek behind the curtain, not that we have a curtain really, but for us, it’s almost always been a thing that sort of…
[0:04:31 – 0:04:32] Erik: It’s more of a tarp.
[0:04:32 – 0:04:33] Erik: It’s a tarp.
[0:04:33 – 0:04:37] Erik: It’s a big, dirty, gross tarp with like duct tape on it and it’s blue and you can tell it’s like…
[0:04:38 – 0:04:39] Erik: Been over a truck for a while.
[0:04:40 – 0:04:42] Erik: It’s never something that…
[0:04:42 – 0:04:43] Erik: It has to be something that speaks to us.
[0:04:44 – 0:04:46] Erik: We never want to make an immediate decision on anything.
[0:04:47 – 0:04:52] Erik: And we kind of like things to play out and, well, this feels right.
[0:04:54 – 0:04:58] Erik: And the bonus content that we’ve put out over the last year…
[0:04:58 – 0:05:15] Erik: for Poppin’ the Wheelers, the $10 per month tier, I think has been fine and good, but it’s a challenge to put it out consistently enough to feel comfortable with that being a tier that deserves the extra $5 a month.
[0:05:15 – 0:05:17] Erik: It’s not just a tier, it’s a promise.
[0:05:17 – 0:05:23] Erik: It’s a tier and a promise, but we’ve found something in the last couple of weeks with…
[0:05:25 – 0:05:27] Erik: Doing, you know, again, doing movie commentary.
[0:05:27 – 0:05:29] Erik: Thanks to our friends Joe and Gus.
[0:05:29 – 0:05:30] Erik: Thanks to our friends Joe and Gus.
[0:05:30 – 0:05:34] Erik: Thanks to Kevin Bacon and Alan and Vic and the River.
[0:05:34 – 0:05:49] Erik: We found another little niche that we feel really comfortable in as being an addition to the show that isn’t something that we would feel comfortable with putting out just regularly every week as a podcast.
[0:05:49 – 0:05:53] Erik: Because we’re not movie… You know, the critique on a movie…
[0:05:55 – 0:06:23] Erik: shtick genre that’s done over and over again but where we’re coming at it is from the outdoor aspect right it’s the idea of like being a consultant to Hollywood on how to portray fishing in the outdoors correctly yes how it’s discussed how it’s portrayed and there’s an almost endless pool of outdoor movies and even some like fishing videos that would be really fun to discuss and so what our
[0:06:25 – 0:06:42] Erik: promise is is we’re going to adjust the tiers so that for five dollars a month you get twice a month access to our thoughts and opinions on we’ve done two movies already we’re planning on doing at least two a month
[0:06:43 – 0:07:09] Erik: and taking suggestions too and taking the best part so far has been the suggestions yeah uh we’ve got a couple it’s insane it’s insane the only reason we were ever able to find out about the little teaser that we’re going to give you after this is from an email uh we’ve got another one that looks super fun that we’re going to watch it’s a horror movie called blood hook i forgot about blood hook already it’s based in hayward wisconsin oh man they better go in the big muskie
[0:07:10 – 0:07:13] Erik: So, yeah, if you’re already a pop and a wheeler, you’re still going to get access to this.
[0:07:13 – 0:07:17] Erik: And we’re going to keep updating the T-shirts.
[0:07:18 – 0:07:19] Erik: We might have a new design this summer.
[0:07:20 – 0:07:34] Erik: But we’re going to move the $5 a month because we feel like the $5 a month supporters should have access to a continued and moving forward regular bonus twice a month episode.
[0:07:35 – 0:07:39] Erik: where we talk about movies that are essentially based on the outdoors.
[0:07:39 – 0:07:41] Erik: We’ve talked about gunfishing.
[0:07:41 – 0:07:42] Erik: We’ve talked about Whitewater Summer.
[0:07:43 – 0:07:44] Erik: We’re going to talk about Bloodhook.
[0:07:45 – 0:07:46] Erik: We’ve got The River Wild.
[0:07:46 – 0:07:49] Adam: We’re going to talk about Musky Movements by Jim Sarek.
[0:07:49 – 0:07:55] Erik: Musky Movements, a bunch of fun outdoors non-fictional.
[0:07:55 – 0:07:56] Adam: The shakeout.
[0:07:56 – 0:07:57] Erik: Shakeout technique.
[0:07:57 – 0:07:58] Erik: We can comment more on that.
[0:07:58 – 0:07:59] Adam: We’ve got to get that pulled back up.
[0:08:00 – 0:08:10] Erik: We might even talk about good outdoor movies like The Great Outdoors, Deliverance, some of the good ones that are well done.
[0:08:10 – 0:08:11] Erik: The Life Aquatic.
[0:08:12 – 0:08:12] Erik: The Life Aquatic.
[0:08:12 – 0:08:20] Erik: They even still have some like bad outdoor stuff in it because a lot of times people putting those movies together really don’t know what it’s like to like camp.
[0:08:21 – 0:08:22] Adam: Grumpy Old Men.
[0:08:22 – 0:08:22] Erik: Can’t wait.
[0:08:23 – 0:08:24] Erik: Grumpy Old Men 1 and 2.
[0:08:24 – 0:08:26] Adam: Oh, are we?
[0:08:26 – 0:08:28] Adam: I just want to watch the first one, but okay.
[0:08:28 – 0:08:35] Erik: Well, it’s going to be, hey, we’ve got a whole future full of movie reviews.
[0:08:35 – 0:08:38] Erik: Tumble Home Cinema Classics is what we’re calling it.
[0:08:39 – 0:08:43] Erik: And so if you’re not a supporter of the show, it is so catchy.
[0:08:43 – 0:08:47] Erik: And you want to sign up for $5 a month, you have that to look forward to.
[0:08:47 – 0:08:48] Adam: Pass the popcorn.
[0:08:49 – 0:08:50] Erik: Pass the popcorn.
[0:08:52 – 0:08:54] Erik: If you’re still just a listener, that’s totally fine.
[0:08:54 – 0:09:01] Erik: We’re going to keep doing the show for free every week forever and ever and ever.
[0:09:01 – 0:09:03] Adam: We’ll never, ever leave you.
[0:09:03 – 0:09:05] Adam: No, we would not until you force us to.
[0:09:08 – 0:09:12] Erik: So, yeah, this is going to be a preview of things to come.
[0:09:12 – 0:09:13] Erik: Get your popcorn.
[0:09:14 – 0:09:15] Erik: Get your popcorn.
[0:09:15 – 0:09:15] Erik: Get your popcorn.
[0:09:16 – 0:09:17] Erik: Get your popcorn.
[0:09:17 – 0:09:23] Erik: Oh, and also know that the bonus stuff is explicit.
[0:09:24 – 0:09:25] Erik: We don’t hold back.
[0:09:25 – 0:09:31] Erik: So if you’ve ever really wanted to know our true thoughts and how we use our words, we’re not that excessive.
[0:09:31 – 0:09:33] Erik: It’s just, yeah, it is explicit.
[0:09:33 – 0:09:39] Erik: And this episode will be marked accordingly to provide that information for future listens.
[0:09:40 – 0:09:45] Erik: But if you’re going to sign up, those bonus episodes, they’ll be explicit.
[0:09:46 – 0:09:53] Erik: Um, but love to have you as a, uh, Coghlan camper, $5 per month subscriber to Patreon.
[0:09:53 – 0:09:57] Erik: So you can, we want more people to hear our thoughts on some of these movies.
[0:09:57 – 0:09:57] Erik: They’re crazy.
[0:09:58 – 0:10:02] Erik: Like the two movies we’ve watched so far are like, yes, insane.
[0:10:02 – 0:10:03] Erik: Specifically whitewater summer.
[0:10:05 – 0:10:13] Erik: I can’t wait to have more people listening and maybe getting involved and sending some of their… Because we would have never heard of it if we weren’t sent the email suggesting it.
[0:10:13 – 0:10:14] Erik: True.
[0:10:14 – 0:10:15] Erik: So yeah, send in some more.
[0:10:16 – 0:10:16] Erik: Send in some more.
[0:10:16 – 0:10:17] Erik: Suggestions.
[0:10:17 – 0:10:18] Erik: Send in some more.
[0:10:18 – 0:10:18] Erik: Recommendations.
[0:10:19 – 0:10:20] Erik: Recommendations.
[0:10:20 – 0:10:20] Erik: Anything.
[0:10:20 – 0:10:21] Erik: We’ll watch anything.
[0:10:21 – 0:10:27] Erik: And we’re looking forward to making this a more consistent content that we provide you on Patreon.
[0:10:28 – 0:10:33] Erik: And without further ado, here’s the first 20 minutes of our discussion on…
[0:10:33 – 0:10:34] Erik: Whitewater Summer.
[0:10:34 – 0:10:38] Erik: You’ll have to become a Coghlan’s Camper $5 a month patron.
[0:10:39 – 0:10:42] Erik: Or just watch the movie to find out if Kevin Bacon dies.
[0:10:46 – 0:10:47] Adam: I can like turn it down.
[0:10:47 – 0:10:49] Adam: We can talk over it to start.
[0:10:49 – 0:10:52] Adam: Just to slowly get into this.
[0:10:53 – 0:10:54] Adam: Oh, it’s recording now, pal.
[0:10:56 – 0:10:56] Adam: Turn it back up.
[0:10:57 – 0:10:59] Adam: Here I am.
[0:10:59 – 0:11:02] UNKNOWN: I’m gonna get this thing.
[0:11:09 – 0:11:10] Adam: All right.
[0:11:12 – 0:11:16] Adam: Welcome to episode 002 of Tumble Home Cinema Classics.
[0:11:17 – 0:11:17] Adam: My name is Adam.
[0:11:18 – 0:11:22] Adam: I’m joined by my good friend Eric here in Studio K. Welcome, Eric.
[0:11:23 – 0:11:25] Adam: This is gonna be a wild one.
[0:11:26 – 0:11:31] Adam: This episode of Tumble Home Cinema Classics is brought to you by Corona Extra in a can.
[0:11:32 – 0:11:37] Erik: And Minnesota Gold that’s half gone already, also in a can.
[0:11:37 – 0:11:39] Erik: Um…
[0:11:44 – 0:11:47] Adam: Also brought to you by Bruce Hornsby and The Range.
[0:11:49 – 0:11:52] Adam: Their smash hit, The Wild Frontier.
[0:11:57 – 0:12:00] Erik: Which came first, this song or the movie?
[0:12:00 – 0:12:02] Erik: I think it was written for the movie.
[0:12:02 – 0:12:02] Erik: Yeah?
[0:12:02 – 0:12:03] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:12:03 – 0:12:04] Erik: I always wonder.
[0:12:04 – 0:12:04] Erik: I hope it was.
[0:12:06 – 0:12:08] Erik: It sounds like it was written for a movie.
[0:12:09 – 0:12:09] Adam: Yeah.
[0:12:10 – 0:12:12] Erik: Definitely sounds like a soundtrack song.
[0:12:15 – 0:12:16] Erik: Well, welcome.
[0:12:17 – 0:12:26] Erik: I’m glad to be back with you, talking for the second week in a row about a movie.
[0:12:27 – 0:12:34] Adam: How have we not heard of Whitewater Summer before two weeks ago or whenever it first came into the realm?
[0:12:35 – 0:12:39] Erik: There are so many questions.
[0:12:40 – 0:12:41] Adam: All right, I got to turn off Bruce here.
[0:12:41 – 0:12:42] Adam: Sorry, Bruce.
[0:12:42 – 0:12:43] Erik: So many questions.
[0:12:45 – 0:12:47] Erik: The soundtrack.
[0:12:48 – 0:12:53] Erik: Well, that’s going to be a point of very, very high praise, I can guarantee you.
[0:12:54 – 0:12:58] Erik: If you haven’t watched the movie and you’re listening to this, I mean…
[0:12:59 – 0:13:17] Erik: Not going to be nearly as much fun unless you either find some kind of a Russian pirated stream like Adam did or just pay the $4 and rent it on YouTube because then you can stop and rewind and go back to many, many scenes that need to be rewound and rewatched.
[0:13:18 – 0:13:19] Erik: My stream was in German.
[0:13:20 – 0:13:20] Erik: Thank you very much.
[0:13:21 – 0:13:23] Erik: It was in German with English subtitles.
[0:13:26 – 0:13:28] Adam: Yeah, but I really do want to watch it again.
[0:13:30 – 0:13:30] Adam: I would go back.
[0:13:31 – 0:13:34] Adam: I don’t want to say too much on my overall feelings on the movie.
[0:13:34 – 0:13:39] Adam: I think that’ll become pretty apparent, but I would go back and watch it again.
[0:13:39 – 0:13:40] Erik: Sure.
[0:13:40 – 0:13:41] Erik: I would rewatch it again for sure.
[0:13:42 – 0:13:48] Erik: So we are, again, for the 20 folks on Patreon, thank you very much for being here.
[0:13:48 – 0:13:50] Erik: Thank you for continuing to support us.
[0:13:50 – 0:13:55] Erik: If this is content you don’t want, let us know.
[0:13:55 – 0:13:56] Erik: We can do something else.
[0:13:56 – 0:14:01] Erik: I haven’t gotten a real good feeling from the Papa New Wheeler community out there.
[0:14:03 – 0:14:08] Erik: as to whether or not this is a waste of your time and money, but I think it’s fun.
[0:14:08 – 0:14:11] Erik: We’re talking about movies that are based in the outdoors.
[0:14:11 – 0:14:16] Erik: I’m having fun doing them, so even if nobody listens to it, it’s pretty fun to do it.
[0:14:16 – 0:14:17] Erik: Yeah, exactly.
[0:14:18 – 0:14:26] Erik: But anyway, we’re talking about a movie that was suggested to me based on the last week’s episode that we did, Gone Fishin’.
[0:14:27 – 0:14:29] Erik: Again, the name eludes me.
[0:14:29 – 0:14:30] Erik: It’s out there on the email.
[0:14:30 – 0:14:31] Erik: Thank you, emailer.
[0:14:32 – 0:14:36] Erik: Basically, they just said Kevin Bacon, Sean Astin.
[0:14:38 – 0:14:40] Erik: whitewater summer.
[0:14:40 – 0:14:41] Erik: It’s insane.
[0:14:41 – 0:14:42] Erik: That was the email.
[0:14:43 – 0:14:45] Adam: And then based on that, I said, it’s insane.
[0:14:45 – 0:14:45] Erik: It’s insane.
[0:14:45 – 0:14:48] Erik: And then based on the movie poster, I said, let’s do it.
[0:14:48 – 0:14:49] Adam: Yeah.
[0:14:49 – 0:14:53] Adam: Like the Sean Aston, not going to sell me on that, but Kevin Bacon.
[0:14:53 – 0:14:56] Adam: And then that poster where they’re like, Hmm.
[0:14:57 – 0:14:58] Adam: Well, there’s a couple different posters.
[0:14:58 – 0:15:05] Adam: I like the one where Bacon’s paddling and Sean Astin’s lounging in the front of the canoe while they go over a waterfall.
[0:15:05 – 0:15:14] Erik: Yeah, the main one that I’ve seen is the one where it’s kind of borderline menacing eyes coming from Bacon peering over the precipice of a waterfall.
[0:15:14 – 0:15:15] Adam: Yeah, that one’s…
[0:15:15 – 0:15:16] Erik: Bizarre.
[0:15:16 – 0:15:17] Erik: Yeah.
[0:15:17 – 0:15:18] Erik: So it’s a 1987 movie.
[0:15:20 – 0:15:24] Erik: I think before we get into any big thoughts on it, I think we should just start.
[0:15:25 – 0:15:28] Erik: And then as the thoughts come out, they’ll maybe come out.
[0:15:29 – 0:15:32] Adam: We’ve just got to… Spoilers are going to be had.
[0:15:32 – 0:15:33] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:15:33 – 0:15:34] Adam: So if you haven’t watched it…
[0:15:34 – 0:15:35] Adam: Please go and watch it.
[0:15:35 – 0:15:36] Adam: Just go watch it first.
[0:15:36 – 0:15:40] Erik: It’d be way more fun to have the conversation if you’ve actually seen it.
[0:15:40 – 0:15:43] Adam: Got to check the Ron Sharer’s calendar before we get into this week’s episode.
[0:15:43 – 0:15:44] Adam: That’s right.
[0:15:44 – 0:15:44] Adam: It is…
[0:15:45 – 0:15:49] Adam: Cinco de Mayo average ice out on Rainy Lake.
[0:15:50 – 0:15:50] Adam: Oh.
[0:15:50 – 0:15:52] Erik: Is the quote for the day.
[0:15:53 – 0:15:54] Erik: Did you check in?
[0:15:54 – 0:15:54] Erik: Is Rainy out?
[0:15:55 – 0:15:56] Erik: No, I didn’t check in.
[0:15:56 – 0:15:57] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:15:57 – 0:15:58] Adam: Sag and Seagull are out.
[0:15:59 – 0:16:00] Adam: Clearwater is going to go in a couple days.
[0:16:01 – 0:16:02] Adam: I’m sure Rainy’s out.
[0:16:02 – 0:16:03] Adam: Rainy’s out.
[0:16:03 – 0:16:03] Adam: Yeah.
[0:16:03 – 0:16:06] Adam: So Ron Shero is correct once again.
[0:16:07 – 0:16:08] Erik: You old dog, Ron.
[0:16:09 – 0:16:10] Erik: You got it figured out.
[0:16:12 – 0:16:13] Erik: Yeah, this…
[0:16:14 – 0:16:16] Erik: I mean, I feel like we started from the bottom.
[0:16:17 – 0:16:17] Erik: Now we’re here.
[0:16:18 – 0:16:19] Adam: I’m sorry.
[0:16:19 – 0:16:20] Adam: That was bad.
[0:16:20 – 0:16:22] Erik: That was a Drake thing.
[0:16:22 – 0:16:24] Erik: But we started from the bottom with Gone Fishing.
[0:16:26 – 0:16:27] Erik: That movie was terrible.
[0:16:27 – 0:16:29] Erik: Terribly bad in all the wrong ways.
[0:16:30 – 0:16:30] Erik: It was.
[0:16:30 – 0:16:30] Erik: It was really bad.
[0:16:30 – 0:16:39] Erik: This movie, I feel like it kind of has a nice perfect groove of insanity in a good way.
[0:16:41 – 0:16:47] Erik: And things that make you think, I never thought I would see this in a movie.
[0:16:48 – 0:16:50] Erik: And also, what’s happening?
[0:16:50 – 0:16:51] Erik: Yes, yes.
[0:16:52 – 0:16:53] Erik: So let’s start from the beginning.
[0:16:54 – 0:16:56] Erik: What are some of your first notes?
[0:16:57 – 0:17:00] Adam: My first note for the whole movie is a quote from Alan.
[0:17:01 – 0:17:03] Adam: I think I might have the same quote.
[0:17:04 – 0:17:07] Adam: Which at first I had attributed to little shit.
[0:17:08 – 0:17:11] Adam: Because I wasn’t sure what the character’s name was even at this point.
[0:17:11 – 0:17:14] Erik: So the movie does a lot of things bad, and that’s one of them.
[0:17:15 – 0:17:16] Erik: Establishing character names?
[0:17:16 – 0:17:17] Erik: Terrible.
[0:17:17 – 0:17:20] Erik: I didn’t even know what Kevin Bacon’s name was until a half hour in.
[0:17:21 – 0:17:22] Adam: Yeah, well, even that, you know.
[0:17:22 – 0:17:26] Adam: But then there’s still like two members of the crew, which I never even learned their names.
[0:17:26 – 0:17:27] Adam: Nope, never learned their names.
[0:17:27 – 0:17:28] Adam: I don’t need to know.
[0:17:28 – 0:17:29] Adam: It’s not important.
[0:17:29 – 0:17:31] Erik: So what is your quote from Alan?
[0:17:31 – 0:17:32] Adam: Who is Sean Astin?
[0:17:32 – 0:17:33] Adam: Basically the main character of the movie.
[0:17:34 – 0:17:34] Adam: Is he?
[0:17:35 – 0:17:35] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:17:35 – 0:17:35] Adam: Eh.
[0:17:36 – 0:17:38] Erik: No one great ever slept in the dirt.
[0:17:39 – 0:17:40] Erik: No one great ever slept in the dirt.
[0:17:40 – 0:17:46] Erik: That is a great quote, but it also comes after the quote that I took from him, which was he has three.
[0:17:46 – 0:17:49] Erik: Everybody needs three guiding principles in their life.
[0:17:49 – 0:17:50] Erik: One, sexual.
[0:17:51 – 0:17:52] Erik: Two, ethical.
[0:17:52 – 0:17:54] Erik: And three, optional, which is camping.
[0:17:55 – 0:17:55] Erik: No camping.
[0:17:55 – 0:17:57] Erik: That’s his optional principle.
[0:17:58 – 0:17:59] Erik: To not camp.
[0:17:59 – 0:18:00] Erik: To not camp.
[0:18:00 – 0:18:01] Erik: But he’s also like 15.
[0:18:01 – 0:18:01] Erik: Yeah.
[0:18:02 – 0:18:04] Erik: Like, what’s his sexual principle?
[0:18:05 – 0:18:06] Erik: It seems a little aggressive.
[0:18:07 – 0:18:09] Erik: Coming from a boy talking under a tree in a chair.
[0:18:09 – 0:18:11] Adam: Well, here’s the thing, though.
[0:18:11 – 0:18:21] Adam: I have a note in here somewhere farther on, but narrator Alan is actually years in the future telling the story.
[0:18:21 – 0:18:23] Erik: My biggest problem with the movie.
[0:18:23 – 0:18:27] Adam: But yeah, so the narrator Alan’s older, but still he’s talking about…
[0:18:28 – 0:18:29] Adam: Little shit, Alan.
[0:18:29 – 0:18:30] Erik: Well, see, all right.
[0:18:30 – 0:18:34] Erik: So I think I’m going to say my biggest problem with the movie multiple times.
[0:18:35 – 0:18:39] Erik: So the movie starts actually in a very unique way.
[0:18:39 – 0:18:41] Erik: The cold open, I like.
[0:18:41 – 0:18:44] Erik: I don’t like how smarmy he is.
[0:18:44 – 0:18:45] Erik: He kind of comes across as a little shit.
[0:18:45 – 0:18:47] Adam: Oh, I didn’t like him at all.
[0:18:47 – 0:18:49] Adam: At first, I was like, I’m not going to be able to.
[0:18:49 – 0:18:54] Erik: I’m surprised he didn’t flip up sunglasses off of glasses that he was also wearing.
[0:18:54 – 0:18:54] Adam: Yeah.
[0:18:55 – 0:19:02] Erik: So he’s just in this tree talking, like kind of talking shit on this experience that he had.
[0:19:02 – 0:19:10] Erik: And then it does this thing that the movie, I think if it would have followed through on, would have been kind of cool and interesting.
[0:19:10 – 0:19:13] Erik: It had this like Wonder Years vibe where it was…
[0:19:16 – 0:19:19] Erik: inner monologue happening as the movie was happening.
[0:19:20 – 0:19:22] Erik: But then they dropped it and it never came back.
[0:19:23 – 0:19:24] Erik: Because they were…
[0:19:25 – 0:19:28] Adam: I’m okay with that, though, because I really didn’t like narrator Alan.
[0:19:28 – 0:19:30] Adam: They could have just gotten rid of almost all of that.
[0:19:30 – 0:19:32] Erik: Well, they should have just never had it then.
[0:19:32 – 0:19:32] Adam: Yeah.
[0:19:32 – 0:19:36] Erik: It was a weird thing where they had it for like 20 minutes, if that.
[0:19:36 – 0:19:44] Adam: There was a couple little scenes just spliced in, maybe one per act, where little narrator Alan from the future interjects.
[0:19:44 – 0:19:46] Adam: But he never really offers much.
[0:19:47 – 0:19:48] Erik: No, he doesn’t.
[0:19:48 – 0:19:50] Erik: He’s not in the last two thirds.
[0:19:50 – 0:19:53] Adam: It’s supposed to be funny or something, but it’s not.
[0:19:53 – 0:19:57] Adam: And it’s like, yeah, it’s the weakest part of the movie is narrator Alan.
[0:19:57 – 0:19:57] Erik: Yeah.
[0:19:58 – 0:20:04] Erik: So he’s kind of like coming at you in a cold open scene talking about how he hates camping now.
[0:20:05 – 0:20:08] Adam: I didn’t want to start the movie that way at first.
[0:20:08 – 0:20:09] Adam: I was just like, boo.
[0:20:09 – 0:20:11] Adam: I’m literally booing the character immediately.
[0:20:12 – 0:20:14] Adam: He says he doesn’t like sleeping in the dirt and he hates camping.
[0:20:15 – 0:20:16] Erik: And then it cuts to a scene.
[0:20:16 – 0:20:20] Erik: So then it cuts to Kevin Bacon walking down the streets of New York City.
[0:20:20 – 0:20:21] Erik: Yeah, he walks.
[0:20:21 – 0:20:25] Erik: Just a random dude with like a huge pack on with like gear and stuff.
[0:20:25 – 0:20:29] Erik: And then he’s in like an affluent family’s apartment just showing slides.
[0:20:30 – 0:20:31] Erik: What about that slideshow?
[0:20:31 – 0:20:32] Erik: That’s the creepiest.
[0:20:32 – 0:20:34] Erik: Where do you get that slideshow projector thing?
[0:20:35 – 0:20:37] Erik: Yeah, so he’s got like a sleeping bag.
[0:20:37 – 0:20:38] Erik: Is that what was in the pack?
[0:20:38 – 0:20:39] Erik: No, you can see it.
[0:20:39 – 0:20:40] Erik: There’s a shot.
[0:20:40 – 0:20:46] Erik: You can see like tent, sleeping bag, and then like slideshow projector reel thing like kind of coming out of a pack.
[0:20:46 – 0:20:48] Adam: Of course, he brings slides.
[0:20:48 – 0:20:48] Adam: It’s 1987.
[0:20:48 – 0:20:49] Adam: What are you going to do?
[0:20:50 – 0:20:54] Erik: And he’s trying to convince the family slash the boy?
[0:20:54 – 0:20:59] Adam: He’s recruiting members for his camping excursion as a guide or whatever.
[0:20:59 – 0:21:01] Adam: It’s like a boys camp thing.
[0:21:01 – 0:21:04] Adam: So he’s like, hey, this is an exclusive camping trip your kid can go on.
[0:21:05 – 0:21:07] Adam: He’s selling the family more than he’s selling the kid.
[0:21:08 – 0:21:08] Erik: Right.
[0:21:10 – 0:21:12] Adam: We’ll take this little shit off your hands for a couple weeks.
[0:21:12 – 0:21:17] Adam: The question I have about that is, who is he affiliated with?
[0:21:17 – 0:21:18] Adam: Is he sanctioned?
[0:21:18 – 0:21:20] Adam: There’s a lot of weird things about Vic.
[0:21:21 – 0:21:24] Adam: He’s just going around like… Well, there’s not a lot of weird things about Vic.
[0:21:24 – 0:21:29] Adam: There’s an alarming lack of things about Vic.
[0:21:29 – 0:21:30] Adam: An alarming lack of detail.
[0:21:31 – 0:21:31] Adam: Who is Vic?
[0:21:32 – 0:21:33] Adam: Who is Vic?
[0:21:33 – 0:21:36] Adam: He just walks into Manhattan with a pack and a projector.
[0:21:37 – 0:21:37] Adam: Yeah.
[0:21:37 – 0:21:40] Adam: And then sells Sean Astin’s family on that.
[0:21:41 – 0:21:44] Adam: Yeah, I’ll take your kid camping for a couple weeks.
[0:21:45 – 0:21:46] Adam: I just walked here.
[0:21:46 – 0:21:48] Erik: And he kind of like…
[0:21:48 – 0:21:53] Erik: I didn’t really get that twist or that turn of the joke of Alan being like, I lied.
[0:21:54 – 0:21:55] Erik: And then all of a sudden he’s like…
[0:21:56 – 0:22:01] Erik: In a van, driving down the road with four other boys.
[0:22:01 – 0:22:02] Erik: We don’t know where they came from.
[0:22:02 – 0:22:04] Erik: The crew, yeah.
[0:22:04 – 0:22:06] Erik: And Alan is just in the van.
[0:22:06 – 0:22:11] Adam: Yeah, his family shipped him off to go camping.
[0:22:11 – 0:22:12] Erik: His family shipped him off.
[0:22:12 – 0:22:18] Erik: They blew all their money on the budget to shoot in New York City for an afternoon.
[0:22:18 – 0:22:21] Erik: Because there are some amazing shots of Kevin Bacon like…
[0:22:22 – 0:22:27] Erik: Like, jogging across a busy Manhattan street with, like, a huge pack of gear on.
[0:22:27 – 0:22:27] Erik: Yeah.
[0:22:27 – 0:22:28] Erik: Like, it’s all legit.
[0:22:28 – 0:22:30] Erik: Like, the movie is, like, shot well.
[0:22:30 – 0:22:31] Erik: Yes.
[0:22:32 – 0:22:33] Erik: Like, they don’t…
[0:22:33 – 0:22:36] Erik: They’re not cutting any expenses in terms of, like, where these scenes are taking place.
[0:22:37 – 0:22:39] Erik: But…
[0:22:39 – 0:22:40] Erik: So, all of a sudden, they cut to…
[0:22:41 – 0:22:45] Erik: A van with five kids and Kevin Bacon.
[0:22:45 – 0:22:46] Adam: It’s not just a van.
[0:22:46 – 0:22:47] Adam: It’s a Volkswagen bus.
[0:22:47 – 0:22:49] Adam: It is a Volkswagen bus.
[0:22:49 – 0:22:50] Adam: Come on.
[0:22:50 – 0:22:53] Adam: With a matching Coleman fiberglass canoe on top.
[0:22:55 – 0:22:56] Adam: I believe it’s a Coleman.
[0:22:56 – 0:22:58] Adam: Do you have any opinions on the canoe at this point?
[0:22:59 – 0:23:02] Erik: At this point, I don’t have any opinions in the movie.
[0:23:03 – 0:23:05] Erik: I eventually do have opinions on the canoe.
[0:23:09 – 0:23:11] Erik: At this point, I didn’t know what kind of a canoe it was.
[0:23:12 – 0:23:17] Adam: I’m not sure that it is, but it looks like a Coleman, a green Coleman fiberglass canoe.
[0:23:17 – 0:23:18] Adam: Oh, it is.
[0:23:18 – 0:23:19] Adam: That’s what I was saying.
[0:23:19 – 0:23:20] Erik: Like, I couldn’t tell right away.
[0:23:20 – 0:23:26] Erik: There is a huge note at one point where it just all capital letters in my notes that says Coleman.
[0:23:26 – 0:23:27] Erik: It’s a Coleman fucking canoe.
[0:23:27 – 0:23:28] Adam: Yeah, I thought so.
[0:23:28 – 0:23:33] Adam: And then especially in the credits at the end, they thank the Coleman Corporation.
[0:23:33 – 0:23:34] Erik: Oh, really?
[0:23:34 – 0:23:34] Adam: Yes.
[0:23:34 – 0:23:35] Adam: Wow.
[0:23:35 – 0:23:35] Adam: I didn’t pay.
[0:23:36 – 0:23:36] Adam: I turned it off.
[0:23:36 – 0:23:37] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:23:37 – 0:23:39] Adam: Oh, I watched all the way to the very end.
[0:23:39 – 0:23:43] Erik: So my biggest question, when they’re in the van, five kids.
[0:23:44 – 0:23:44] Adam: Yeah.
[0:23:44 – 0:23:45] Adam: Four kids.
[0:23:46 – 0:23:46] Adam: And bacon.
[0:23:48 – 0:23:52] Adam: No, there’s… Yeah.
[0:23:52 – 0:23:52] Adam: One canoe.
[0:23:54 – 0:23:56] Adam: So I’m like, how is this canoe trip going to work?
[0:23:56 – 0:23:57] Adam: I have a note on that, too.
[0:23:57 – 0:24:01] Adam: Yeah, it said, huge canoe or three… Oh, I don’t know.
[0:24:01 – 0:24:02] Adam: Yeah, it was huge.
[0:24:02 – 0:24:08] Adam: This isn’t the note I thought I was reading, but I definitely remember noticing it.
[0:24:08 – 0:24:12] Adam: Like, wait, so they have the one canoe for a whitewater rafting movie?
[0:24:13 – 0:24:15] Adam: Well, see, that’s the other thing.
[0:24:15 – 0:24:19] Erik: And they’ve got all these kids and Kevin Bacon and all their crap.
[0:24:19 – 0:24:22] Erik: It’s one of the most bizarre styles of…
[0:24:24 – 0:24:25] Erik: I don’t even know what she would call it.
[0:24:26 – 0:24:27] Erik: Like, camping?
[0:24:28 – 0:24:29] Erik: Moving through the woods?
[0:24:32 – 0:24:33] Adam: So, who knows?
[0:24:33 – 0:24:34] Adam: They just bring it with them.
[0:24:34 – 0:24:38] Adam: And at one point, they do show them portaging the canoe down a hiking trail.
[0:24:38 – 0:24:41] Adam: Oh, they portage that canoe with a bunch of bozies.
[0:24:41 – 0:24:42] Adam: Three kids underneath that thing.
[0:24:43 – 0:24:45] Erik: Three kids under one canoe.
[0:24:46 – 0:24:51] Adam: Before we get too far into the movie, I had two quotes from Alan that I wanted to start with, actually.
[0:24:51 – 0:24:52] Erik: Go for it.
[0:24:54 – 0:25:02] Adam: This is after the slideshow, in which I would just like to point out in the slideshow as well, the showing of the slide of Devil’s Tooth.
[0:25:02 – 0:25:04] Adam: Oh, I have Devil’s Tooth in quotes for sure.
[0:25:04 – 0:25:05] Adam: That was in the slideshow.
[0:25:06 – 0:25:07] Adam: That was like what sold the parents.
[0:25:07 – 0:25:11] Adam: They’re like, yeah, Alan can climb Devil’s Tooth.
[0:25:11 – 0:25:12] Adam: Alan’s a climber.
[0:25:12 – 0:25:15] Adam: So like, was Alan sent on like a…
[0:25:16 – 0:25:36] Adam: like a mission he wasn’t supposed to succeed at because it sure seemed like it at times like there’s too many chances to die for young alan anyways this is after that right after it’s like become apparent that he’s somehow been bamboozled into going on this trip with uh vick this is the quote this guy is slick maybe too slick
[0:25:39 – 0:26:02] Adam: bacon yeah he’s talking about uh vick yeah this is like oh man he he bamboozled my parents i know i’m going on this trip this is like when they’re in the van i’m pretty sure that uh and that quote comes up but yeah it was a sweet bus canoe combo that was nice and it was just like zip tied packs somehow stuck on top as well oh it was great yeah
[0:26:04 – 0:26:08] Erik: And so they just, like, very, like, light on detail.
[0:26:08 – 0:26:09] Erik: Like, where are they?
[0:26:10 – 0:26:14] Erik: Obviously, New York City was pretty clear in the beginning, but, like, where are they going?
[0:26:14 – 0:26:17] Erik: All of a sudden, they’re just in, like, huge, like, mountain country.
[0:26:18 – 0:26:18] Adam: Yeah.
[0:26:18 – 0:26:22] Erik: That’s not just something that you can drive out of New York City and find quickly.
[0:26:22 – 0:26:23] Erik: It’s not up by Albany.
[0:26:23 – 0:26:24] Erik: Did he fly?
[0:26:24 – 0:26:30] Adam: Yeah, I thought for sure, like, we’re just going to go up into the, like, northern Appalachians or the Green Mountains or something.
[0:26:30 – 0:26:30] Adam: Yeah.
[0:26:30 – 0:26:33] Erik: Adirondacks, something, I mean… That would make sense.
[0:26:33 – 0:26:36] Adam: No, these are like sharp, jagged mountains.
[0:26:36 – 0:26:37] Adam: No, we’re going to California.
[0:26:37 – 0:26:38] Adam: Yeah, exactly.
[0:26:38 – 0:26:41] Adam: So, I don’t know how he got to California.
[0:26:41 – 0:26:42] Adam: Nobody cares.
[0:26:43 – 0:26:43] Adam: He’s just there then.
[0:26:44 – 0:26:46] Adam: He’s in the bus.
[0:26:46 – 0:26:49] Erik: He’s in a crew, and he seems uncomfortable.
[0:26:49 – 0:26:53] Erik: And they, right away, for kind of no reason…
[0:26:54 – 0:26:58] Erik: Uh, which is again, one of my bigger questions that like follows through the movie.
[0:26:59 – 0:27:06] Erik: Um, a couple of the kids seem like they’re kind of jerks right away and they just start out of nowhere calling Alan a dick face.
[0:27:07 – 0:27:09] Erik: And I was like, PG question mark.
[0:27:10 – 0:27:12] Adam: Yeah, it’s not quite a PG movie.
[0:27:12 – 0:27:14] Erik: It’s not my biggest PG question mark moment.
[0:27:14 – 0:27:15] Erik: There’s some other ones, for sure.
[0:27:15 – 0:27:18] Erik: But it was the beginning of thinking, this should not be a PG movie.
[0:27:19 – 0:27:21] Erik: But, like, why are they calling him a dickface?
[0:27:21 – 0:27:22] Erik: Like, what did he do?
[0:27:22 – 0:27:25] Erik: He’s also got, like, maybe another nerdling kind of, like, friend.
[0:27:25 – 0:27:26] Erik: You’re talking about Mitch?
[0:27:27 – 0:27:27] Erik: Yes.
[0:27:27 – 0:27:27] Erik: Yeah.
[0:27:27 – 0:27:30] Erik: Yeah, so there’s, like, two kind of, like… Sweet, sweet Mitch.
[0:27:30 – 0:27:33] Adam: Guys that seem like they shouldn’t be there, and then, like, two bullies.
[0:27:34 – 0:27:37] Adam: This world is not meant for men like Mitch.
[0:27:37 – 0:27:37] Adam: No.
[0:27:38 – 0:27:39] Adam: I wonder what Mitch is up to.
[0:27:39 – 0:27:40] Adam: They never really follow up on Mitch.
[0:27:40 – 0:27:42] Erik: Never follow up on Mitch.
[0:27:42 – 0:27:43] Erik: Hmm.
[0:27:43 – 0:27:44] Erik: I like Mitch.
[0:27:44 – 0:27:47] Adam: But they end up… Yeah, the other two guys, I never found out their names.
[0:27:47 – 0:27:47] Adam: No.
[0:27:47 – 0:27:48] Adam: The two bullies.
[0:27:49 – 0:27:51] Adam: The two jerks, I was calling them.
[0:27:51 – 0:27:53] Adam: And then there’s Mitch, and then there’s Alan.
[0:27:53 – 0:27:55] Adam: And then, of course, the leader, Vic.
[0:27:56 – 0:27:56] Erik: Yes, the leader.
[0:27:56 – 0:27:58] Adam: The mysterious leader of this group.
[0:27:59 – 0:28:02] Erik: Yeah, they end up at a grocery store, gas station, pit stop?
[0:28:02 – 0:28:03] Adam: It was a gas station, I think.
[0:28:03 – 0:28:04] Erik: With a Pornomag purchase.
[0:28:04 – 0:28:05] Erik: Yeah.
[0:28:05 – 0:28:07] Erik: Which is also, like, super pointless.
[0:28:07 – 0:28:07] Erik: Yeah.
[0:28:08 – 0:28:09] Adam: Yeah, never comes up again.
[0:28:09 – 0:28:10] Adam: Never comes up again.
[0:28:10 – 0:28:12] Adam: Except for just to rub it in your face.
[0:28:12 – 0:28:14] Erik: Yeah, and then they end up at a campsite.
[0:28:15 – 0:28:15] Erik: Who knows?
[0:28:15 – 0:28:16] Erik: Where?
[0:28:16 – 0:28:16] Erik: Is it a campground?
[0:28:16 – 0:28:17] Erik: Whatever.
[0:28:17 – 0:28:18] Erik: And they’re just, like, splitting.
[0:28:18 – 0:28:19] Erik: It’s in California.
[0:28:19 – 0:28:20] Erik: I looked it up.
[0:28:20 – 0:28:22] Erik: Massive, massive fucking logs.
[0:28:23 – 0:28:24] Erik: Those logs that they’re splitting.
[0:28:25 – 0:28:32] Erik: And the weirdest, like, I noticed, like, we were talking in Gone Fishing with the levels of the wine going up and down.
[0:28:33 – 0:28:35] Erik: There wasn’t anything that glaringly obvious.
[0:28:35 – 0:28:40] Erik: But one of the worst ones in the movie was, like, they’re sitting down and they’re, like, eating at a picnic table.
[0:28:41 – 0:28:42] Erik: And they’re having like a lunch or whatever.
[0:28:43 – 0:28:45] Erik: And then it just cuts to them splitting wood.
[0:28:45 – 0:28:48] Erik: And then one of the kids asks, when are they going to eat?
[0:28:48 – 0:28:49] Erik: Because they’re starving.
[0:28:50 – 0:28:51] Erik: And she’s like, you were just eating.
[0:28:51 – 0:28:53] Erik: A scene where you were just eating.
[0:28:53 – 0:28:55] Erik: Like little things like that kind of drives me crazy.
[0:28:56 – 0:29:02] Erik: And then for whatever dumb reason, Alan takes his big hunting knife out and carves an A into a tree.
[0:29:02 – 0:29:04] Adam: And defaces the pine.
[0:29:04 – 0:29:10] Erik: Yeah, this is when the relationship between Alan and Vic becomes the main theme of the movie.
[0:29:11 – 0:29:16] Adam: Yeah, it was a real Bobby move, carving up the pine tree, and he was wasting water.
[0:29:17 – 0:29:18] Adam: He was supposed to get water for dinner.
[0:29:18 – 0:29:19] Erik: Oh, that water bucket?
[0:29:19 – 0:29:24] Adam: And so he’s just filling water, and the bucket’s just overflowing while he carves up that tree.
[0:29:25 – 0:29:27] Adam: Yeah, Vic wasn’t happy about that.
[0:29:27 – 0:29:28] Erik: No.
[0:29:28 – 0:29:36] Erik: I also have written down here, there’s so many light breezes that are just always blowing Kevin Bacon’s hair back.
[0:29:36 – 0:29:36] Adam: Perfect.
[0:29:36 – 0:29:39] Erik: With his, like, collared shirt and sweater.
[0:29:40 – 0:29:41] Erik: Perfect tan.
[0:29:41 – 0:29:42] Erik: Perfect tan.
[0:29:42 – 0:29:43] Adam: Piercing eyes.
[0:29:43 – 0:29:44] Erik: Yep.
[0:29:46 – 0:29:50] Erik: And then I have something written down here that I have no idea what it means.
[0:29:50 – 0:29:52] Erik: It just says, a good month, they get twins.
[0:29:53 – 0:29:54] Erik: Do you know what that means?
[0:29:55 – 0:29:57] Erik: Good month, they get twins.
[0:29:57 – 0:29:57] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:29:58 – 0:29:59] Adam: I have no idea what that means.
[0:29:59 – 0:30:00] Adam: Maybe you’re talking about the two jerks.
[0:30:02 – 0:30:05] Erik: Yeah, the classic idiotic four boys under a canoe portaging.
[0:30:05 – 0:30:12] Erik: But one of my favorite Kevin Bacon moments was the grabbing a trout out of the river with his bare hand.
[0:30:12 – 0:30:13] Erik: The MODOK hand trout fishing.
[0:30:14 – 0:30:15] Adam: Yes.
[0:30:15 – 0:30:17] Adam: Absolutely.
[0:30:17 – 0:30:17] Adam: Yes.
[0:30:18 – 0:30:18] Adam: I love that.
[0:30:19 – 0:30:22] Adam: Yeah, that was, you know, he mentioned it.
[0:30:42 – 0:30:46] Adam: Bye.
[0:30:46 – 0:30:48] Adam: Bye.
[0:30:48 – 0:30:49] Adam: Bye.




