Episode Transcript
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[0:00:31 – 0:00:34] Erik: Welcome to Tumble Home, a Boundary Otters podcast.
[0:00:35 – 0:00:35] Erik: I am Eric.
[0:00:37 – 0:00:40] Erik: Joined, as always, by my good friend Adam.
[0:00:40 – 0:00:41] Erik: Hello.
[0:00:41 – 0:00:42] Adam: Happy to be here.
[0:00:43 – 0:00:50] Erik: On the back end of the tumble tourney, getting back into your regularly scheduled content.
[0:00:51 – 0:00:52] Erik: Tumble things.
[0:00:53 – 0:00:54] Erik: It’s still tumble things.
[0:00:55 – 0:00:56] Erik: Question of the week.
[0:00:58 – 0:01:01] Erik: We’ll get there before we do.
[0:01:02 – 0:01:07] Erik: Sponsored, as always, by our fine friends on Patreon.
[0:01:08 – 0:01:14] Erik: You can look forward to our conversation on The River Wild.
[0:01:15 – 0:01:21] Erik: Also, coming out on the same day that this episode does, we’re back to the Sunday schedule.
[0:01:22 – 0:01:23] Adam: Holy smokes.
[0:01:24 – 0:01:25] Erik: That movie is something else.
[0:01:25 – 0:01:27] Adam: How did Kevin Bacon get into two, like…
[0:01:30 – 0:01:51] Erik: river movies where he’s the villain i don’t know what the it’s more of a it’s they’re not rafting movies but white you know just no i get what you’re saying do you think we are the only podcast even though it is this out that is on patreon do you think we’re the only podcast that has ever reviewed both whitewater summer and the river wild probably a kevin bacon podcast
[0:01:51 – 0:01:53] Erik: Ooh, that would be an interesting one.
[0:01:53 – 0:02:00] Adam: I absolutely got to think, or some sort of podcast where they dive into just an actor or actress’s career.
[0:02:00 – 0:02:02] Adam: And so then, of course, they would have covered it.
[0:02:03 – 0:02:05] Adam: Somebody’s done a podcast on Bacon.
[0:02:05 – 0:02:08] Adam: There should be a whole podcast just on Kevin Bacon.
[0:02:10 – 0:02:10] Adam: If there’s not.
[0:02:10 – 0:02:11] Erik: I’m sure there has to be.
[0:02:12 – 0:02:14] Erik: I mean, there’s a podcast on the Boundary Waters.
[0:02:15 – 0:02:16] Erik: So.
[0:02:17 – 0:02:17] Erik: Yeah.
[0:02:17 – 0:02:18] Erik: Yeah.
[0:02:18 – 0:02:19] Erik: So $5 a month.
[0:02:19 – 0:02:21] Erik: We’ll get you access to that wild.
[0:02:21 – 0:02:22] Adam: It’s a freaking steal.
[0:02:22 – 0:02:24] Erik: A wild movie.
[0:02:24 – 0:02:25] Erik: It’s the River Wild.
[0:02:25 – 0:02:27] Adam: You’re the bee’s knees out there.
[0:02:27 – 0:02:31] Erik: Meryl Streep, the little boy from Jurassic Park.
[0:02:31 – 0:02:38] Erik: Also, maybe his stepdad or real dad also from Jurassic Park?
[0:02:38 – 0:02:40] Erik: Was he the lawyer in Jurassic Park?
[0:02:40 – 0:02:41] Adam: Maybe.
[0:02:41 – 0:02:42] Adam: He might have been.
[0:02:42 – 0:02:43] Adam: Now that you say that.
[0:02:43 – 0:02:45] Adam: The guy that gets eaten out of the outhouse?
[0:02:45 – 0:02:46] Adam: He gets the…
[0:02:47 – 0:02:47] Erik: By the T-Rex.
[0:02:47 – 0:02:49] Adam: He’s on the brown volcano.
[0:02:49 – 0:02:52] Adam: Maybe they’re just… Gets eaten right up, just snatched up by the T-Rex.
[0:02:53 – 0:02:54] Adam: I think you’re right.
[0:02:54 – 0:02:55] Adam: Yeah.
[0:02:55 – 0:02:58] Adam: I looked into it a little because I was like, at first, I’m like, is that Kill Bill?
[0:02:58 – 0:03:00] Adam: Is that Bill from Kill Bill?
[0:03:00 – 0:03:01] Adam: It’s not David Carradine.
[0:03:01 – 0:03:02] Erik: No.
[0:03:02 – 0:03:02] Adam: No.
[0:03:02 – 0:03:04] Adam: But he looks an awful lot like him.
[0:03:04 – 0:03:06] Adam: But then I was kind of looking into what he’s in.
[0:03:07 – 0:03:08] Adam: And he’s in some stuff.
[0:03:09 – 0:03:09] Erik: And also…
[0:03:09 – 0:03:11] Adam: He’s got a distinguished face.
[0:03:11 – 0:03:14] Adam: Surprise, John C. Reilly.
[0:03:14 – 0:03:14] Adam: Awesome.
[0:03:14 – 0:03:17] Adam: That’s two John C. Reilly movies in a row for me.
[0:03:17 – 0:03:18] Adam: Skull Island and now this.
[0:03:19 – 0:03:29] Erik: Unfortunately, though, it would be like it’s kind of like watching an Arnold Schwarzenegger movie where he doesn’t like flex his muscles or shoot a gun or have a one liner.
[0:03:30 – 0:03:36] Erik: He’s just there before like John C. Reilly really got to stretch his real Lenny kind of role.
[0:03:36 – 0:03:38] Erik: Yeah, he’s just a real Lenny in this one.
[0:03:38 – 0:03:40] Erik: Well, we can’t talk too much more on it.
[0:03:40 – 0:04:01] Adam: yeah are we just which episode is this yeah we should just turn this into the episode yeah about that with the confusing intro well that would be no actually this is tcc 0 1 2 1 that would be weird um and also sponsored have we been sponsored by war pegs yet three floyds mckellar
[0:04:04 – 0:04:10] Erik: Maybe we’ve been sponsored by a foggy geezer, but I know we have not been sponsored by Chaos Monger.
[0:04:11 – 0:04:11] Erik: Good lord.
[0:04:11 – 0:04:13] Erik: Double IPA.
[0:04:13 – 0:04:17] Erik: The arduous road to hop enlightenment is wrought with chaos.
[0:04:18 – 0:04:25] Erik: Let the sentimental Chaos Monger be your beacon to finding beer of character.
[0:04:27 – 0:04:28] Erik: The whole can’s black.
[0:04:29 – 0:04:32] Adam: Yeah, I think all their cans are all mostly black, huh?
[0:04:32 – 0:04:33] Erik: I think they try to go for that, yeah.
[0:04:33 – 0:04:34] Adam: It’s their aesthetic.
[0:04:35 – 0:04:36] Adam: Papadaboo.
[0:04:38 – 0:04:39] Erik: Cheers.
[0:04:45 – 0:04:47] Adam: Got my mic real close to the sips there.
[0:04:48 – 0:04:48] Erik: Oh, that’s good.
[0:04:48 – 0:04:49] Adam: Got some sip mic-ing.
[0:04:50 – 0:04:51] Adam: Who are these from?
[0:04:52 – 0:04:53] Erik: These are from me.
[0:04:53 – 0:04:54] Adam: Thanks, Eric.
[0:04:55 – 0:05:06] Erik: I had another shipment of beer come in, but they did come along with a they’re essentially supposed to be assigned to a future episode.
[0:05:07 – 0:05:07] Erik: Oh, I see.
[0:05:08 – 0:05:09] Erik: So we’ve got that coming down.
[0:05:09 – 0:05:12] Adam: Probably we got that going for us.
[0:05:12 – 0:05:22] Erik: Probably going to be right around fishing opener because it is a deep, deep dive into another critter episode.
[0:05:23 – 0:05:28] Erik: Sweet 16 losers yet still champion in my heart.
[0:05:29 – 0:05:29] Erik: The Lakers.
[0:05:29 – 0:05:37] Erik: We’re going to have a full episode on those guys and what they’re about along with the beer sponsorship.
[0:05:37 – 0:05:38] Erik: Two different folks.
[0:05:40 – 0:05:55] Erik: uh freeze uh flavor saver sucker packs what do you call those with the air that gets sucked out of them food saver that’s the word oh i see what you’re saying yeah two boy i was having a real hard time picturing what you’re saying at first
[0:05:55 – 0:06:09] Erik: The two food saver freeze, not freeze dried, just food savored fillets of lake trouts that were quote unquote grown from eggs from this person.
[0:06:09 – 0:06:12] Erik: So look forward to that in May.
[0:06:12 – 0:06:40] Adam: what like they’re uh it’s like manufacturing laker meat this guy works at he works at a hatchery was grown because now they’re growing meat in like the laboratories well no he works at a hatchery i’m assuming it was like a full pool and a natural fish it wasn’t one of those things where they turn like human feces into like steak meat like they’re doing in japan or whatever i don’t think that’s how that works but yeah that’s what i’m talking about exactly no it wasn’t like a tube no lit tube why is it lit it needs to be lit
[0:06:41 – 0:06:43] Erik: I think they’re legit Lakers.
[0:06:43 – 0:06:45] Erik: I don’t think they’re native or wild, but still.
[0:06:45 – 0:06:46] Erik: And they’re grown?
[0:06:46 – 0:06:47] Adam: Mm-hmm.
[0:06:47 – 0:06:47] Adam: Wow.
[0:06:48 – 0:06:50] Adam: That’s a gift that keeps on giving right there.
[0:06:50 – 0:06:51] Erik: I think it does.
[0:06:51 – 0:06:52] Erik: We’ll see how they taste.
[0:06:52 – 0:06:54] Erik: I’m looking forward to that episode.
[0:06:54 – 0:07:00] Erik: But in the meantime, we’re talking chaos monger.
[0:07:00 – 0:07:00] Erik: Double IPA.
[0:07:01 – 0:07:01] Erik: It’s a good one.
[0:07:02 – 0:07:04] Adam: That’s a sturdy beer, Eric.
[0:07:04 – 0:07:05] Erik: It’s very sturdy.
[0:07:05 – 0:07:10] Adam: It’s giving me like goosebumps in places I normally don’t get goosebumps.
[0:07:11 – 0:07:11] Adam: Oh.
[0:07:11 – 0:07:14] Adam: I’m going to give this five out of four goosebumps.
[0:07:14 – 0:07:15] Adam: Wow.
[0:07:15 – 0:07:15] Adam: No.
[0:07:16 – 0:07:16] Adam: Yeah.
[0:07:17 – 0:07:18] Erik: Five out of four?
[0:07:18 – 0:07:20] Erik: So you’ve gone from things being rated.
[0:07:20 – 0:07:21] Adam: Wait, is it still supposed to be out of five?
[0:07:22 – 0:07:25] Erik: I was going to say, you’ve changed your rating scale down from five.
[0:07:25 – 0:07:27] Adam: I give it a seven out of five.
[0:07:28 – 0:07:28] Adam: Sips.
[0:07:29 – 0:07:30] Erik: Now it’s sips.
[0:07:30 – 0:07:30] Erik: Yeah.
[0:07:30 – 0:07:30] Erik: Okay.
[0:07:30 – 0:07:31] Adam: That’s what I’m going with.
[0:07:31 – 0:07:32] Erik: Okay.
[0:07:32 – 0:07:32] Erik: Okay.
[0:07:35 – 0:07:35] Adam: It’s pretty good.
[0:07:36 – 0:07:36] Erik: It is good.
[0:07:37 – 0:07:58] Erik: It’s a double IPA, and that usually can suggest a little bit of a roughing up of the tongue, a little bit too heavy for, you know, basically like if you could keep this in a freezer in between sips, because once a double IPA gets even like close to not refrigerated,
[0:08:00 – 0:08:01] Erik: It’s not good.
[0:08:02 – 0:08:06] Erik: But this one does not seem like it’s going to pack that kind of a punch.
[0:08:06 – 0:08:07] Erik: It’s smooth.
[0:08:09 – 0:08:10] Adam: Where did they get this in town?
[0:08:12 – 0:08:12] Adam: Lutzen.
[0:08:12 – 0:08:14] Adam: Oh, you went down to Lutzen.
[0:08:15 – 0:08:15] Erik: Lutzen.
[0:08:15 – 0:08:16] Adam: Down in Lutzen.
[0:08:16 – 0:08:20] Erik: Yeah, I had to go and just make sure Brule wasn’t open yet.
[0:08:22 – 0:08:23] Adam: Spoiler, it’s not.
[0:08:23 – 0:08:24] Adam: Is the road open?
[0:08:25 – 0:08:27] Erik: Barely.
[0:08:27 – 0:08:29] Erik: There was two trumpeter swans on Star, though.
[0:08:30 – 0:08:30] Adam: Cool.
[0:08:30 – 0:08:31] Erik: Which was sweet.
[0:08:31 – 0:08:32] Adam: There’s still a lot of snow up there.
[0:08:32 – 0:08:38] Erik: I actually pulled off into Homer because I was like, I’m sick of driving on this icy, unplowed road.
[0:08:39 – 0:08:43] Erik: There was a lot of exposed gravel and dirt, but it gets a little slidey.
[0:08:43 – 0:08:43] Erik: Yeah.
[0:08:46 – 0:09:10] Adam: yeah i was up in that neck of the woods on easter and then we went out on some ice and it was real iffy yeah i was like gonna go try and find some whitefish though shoreline’s kind of gone already and then you got on the ice itself it was like 70 degrees on easter yeah and get out a couple steps on the ice and like you can like feel the ice kind of moving like a trampoline almost
[0:09:12 – 0:09:13] Erik: A big trampoline.
[0:09:13 – 0:09:16] Adam: Yeah, but like slower than a trampoline.
[0:09:16 – 0:09:17] Adam: A big slow tramp.
[0:09:17 – 0:09:17] Erik: Yeah.
[0:09:18 – 0:09:22] Adam: Because, I mean, there’s still a lot of ice, but it was elastic.
[0:09:22 – 0:09:23] Erik: It’s broken away from the shores.
[0:09:24 – 0:09:24] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:09:24 – 0:09:25] Adam: I mean, I’ve been on some late ice.
[0:09:26 – 0:09:28] Adam: That was the weirdest one I’ve ever stepped on.
[0:09:28 – 0:09:34] Adam: And then kind of farther out where we wanted to go, it was some very dark, ominous patches.
[0:09:35 – 0:09:40] Adam: And then if you just stood still, you could literally hear the ice melting.
[0:09:41 – 0:09:46] Adam: You could hear a faint trickle of just ice going down through.
[0:09:46 – 0:09:47] Erik: Not fully candled yet?
[0:09:47 – 0:09:48] Adam: Yeah, it wasn’t good.
[0:09:49 – 0:09:50] Adam: We didn’t go up very far.
[0:09:50 – 0:09:52] Adam: So that’s the end of ice fishing season.
[0:09:53 – 0:09:53] Erik: Yeah.
[0:09:55 – 0:09:56] Erik: Do you have any Ron Schera facts?
[0:09:56 – 0:09:57] Adam: I didn’t grab it.
[0:09:57 – 0:09:58] Adam: Do you have your calendar?
[0:09:58 – 0:09:59] Adam: I don’t.
[0:09:59 – 0:09:59] Adam: No.
[0:10:00 – 0:10:03] Adam: The fact is there’s still some snow on the ground, but not much.
[0:10:03 – 0:10:05] Erik: Let’s just go ahead and say it’s April 10th.
[0:10:05 – 0:10:07] Erik: The flickers are in the ditches.
[0:10:08 – 0:10:08] Adam: They are.
[0:10:09 – 0:10:09] Erik: Yeah.
[0:10:09 – 0:10:10] Erik: There you go.
[0:10:10 – 0:10:13] Erik: That’s our own GD Ron Schera fact of the day.
[0:10:13 – 0:10:15] Erik: That’s way more applicable to our location.
[0:10:15 – 0:10:18] Adam: Yeah, and I heard the first frog of the season.
[0:10:18 – 0:10:20] Erik: I had a peeper a couple of days ago, too.
[0:10:20 – 0:10:26] Adam: Yeah, just last night on the river, and then the dog got loose, and I was like, oh, my God, she better not go eat a bunch of frogs.
[0:10:27 – 0:10:29] Adam: She’s a frog eater, this one.
[0:10:29 – 0:10:32] Adam: Champ likes a good frog, and I don’t know.
[0:10:32 – 0:10:34] Adam: She probably got into the frog a bit.
[0:10:35 – 0:10:37] Adam: Seen some waterfall moving around.
[0:10:37 – 0:10:39] Adam: Still no loons.
[0:10:39 – 0:10:40] Adam: Nope.
[0:10:40 – 0:10:43] Adam: Yeah, that’s your Ron Cher out to our calendar fact of the day.
[0:10:43 – 0:10:46] Erik: The loons are only back in the intro.
[0:10:47 – 0:10:49] Erik: Congrats to the loons once again.
[0:10:49 – 0:10:50] Erik: Yeah.
[0:10:50 – 0:11:04] Erik: Speaking of the tumble tourney, we’ve got a year to figure out the NFL has the Lombardi trophy.
[0:11:05 – 0:11:07] Erik: The NHL has the Stanley cup.
[0:11:08 – 0:11:09] Erik: NBA has the, uh,
[0:11:14 – 0:11:15] Erik: The basketball man.
[0:11:16 – 0:11:18] Erik: The Michael Jordan net.
[0:11:19 – 0:11:20] Adam: It’s the Michael Jordan award.
[0:11:20 – 0:11:21] Erik: What’s baseball?
[0:11:21 – 0:11:22] Erik: It’s just a bunch of flags.
[0:11:22 – 0:11:25] Erik: It seems like they would be very easily broken.
[0:11:25 – 0:11:27] Adam: It looks like the most breakable one.
[0:11:27 – 0:11:29] Erik: Here’s the most delicate trophy of all time.
[0:11:30 – 0:11:30] Erik: Congrats.
[0:11:31 – 0:11:32] Adam: Yeah.
[0:11:32 – 0:11:33] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:11:33 – 0:11:33] Adam: Who cares?
[0:11:33 – 0:11:37] Erik: BattleBots has the giant nut for the championship.
[0:11:37 – 0:11:38] Erik: That’s what it’s called?
[0:11:38 – 0:11:39] Erik: Yes.
[0:11:39 – 0:11:40] Erik: You literally get a giant nut.
[0:11:40 – 0:11:42] Erik: And I did finish season five.
[0:11:42 – 0:11:43] Adam: I won’t spoil it.
[0:11:43 – 0:11:44] Adam: Did Aura get there?
[0:11:45 – 0:11:45] Erik: Hydra.
[0:11:46 – 0:11:46] Adam: Hydra.
[0:11:47 – 0:11:47] Erik: Hydra got upset.
[0:11:48 – 0:11:48] Erik: I won’t spoil it.
[0:11:48 – 0:11:49] Erik: I don’t want to spoil it for anybody.
[0:11:50 – 0:11:51] Erik: Watch it.
[0:11:51 – 0:11:51] Erik: It’s great.
[0:11:51 – 0:11:55] Erik: It’s worth the price of admission if you want to watch it commercial free on YouTube.
[0:11:55 – 0:11:57] Erik: Otherwise, I’m sure Discovery is still playing it.
[0:11:58 – 0:12:01] Erik: But we need to, within the next year, come up with a name for our championship trophy.
[0:12:01 – 0:12:02] Erik: We don’t have one.
[0:12:02 – 0:12:04] Adam: Yeah, yeah, we have an MVP trophy.
[0:12:04 – 0:12:06] Adam: We’ve got an MVP, special awards.
[0:12:06 – 0:12:08] Adam: There’s no actual name for it.
[0:12:08 – 0:12:10] Adam: They’re just the champion right now.
[0:12:10 – 0:12:11] Adam: Humble tourney champions.
[0:12:12 – 0:12:18] Erik: Like the golden paddle or like the shiny biter, something along those lines.
[0:12:18 – 0:12:25] Adam: I think golden paddle hits it pretty much on the head because, you know, I got more to say about paddles later in the episode for sure.
[0:12:25 – 0:12:26] Erik: All right.
[0:12:26 – 0:12:26] Erik: There you go.
[0:12:26 – 0:12:29] Adam: Well, that’s a brainstorm for the next 365 days.
[0:12:30 – 0:12:35] Erik: We need to come up with the championship at the end of the tourney.
[0:12:35 – 0:12:36] Erik: What gets hoisted?
[0:12:37 – 0:12:39] Erik: You don’t just stand around and look at each other.
[0:12:39 – 0:12:40] Erik: We got to hoist a thing.
[0:12:40 – 0:12:41] Adam: Yeah, we need a thing.
[0:12:41 – 0:12:46] Adam: Preferably, you can drink a chaos monger out of it.
[0:12:47 – 0:12:50] Adam: It’s got a trophy you can drink out of.
[0:12:50 – 0:13:04] Erik: It’s also why the Stanley Cup is, say what you will about the NHL, by and far, far and away, and by and far, the greatest major league sports championship trophy that’s out there.
[0:13:05 – 0:13:06] Erik: For sure.
[0:13:06 – 0:13:07] Erik: It’s not even close.
[0:13:07 – 0:13:12] Erik: They add on to it, but you also, only to a certain extent…
[0:13:13 – 0:13:36] Erik: like only 40 years of teams are on it yeah so like i think like in 2017 the like the leafs finally like got removed from the so there’s no leafs teams on it but there’s a big cup on top that you can drink cup get bigger as the base gets bigger is the cup always it’s always the same size at this point yeah so it’d be nice if it’s a cup of some sort like the paddler’s cup or something
[0:13:36 – 0:14:00] Adam: sure that sounds nice that’s classy it’s like a sailing uh race or something mixed with uh there you go yeah it’s like the it’s like the stanley cup meets the america’s cup the america’s sailing meets hockey that’s the boundary waters kind of we’re sailing meets hockey yeah it’s tough and uh fast uh beautiful and beautiful very beautiful majestic
[0:14:00 – 0:14:03] Adam: Yeah, I think we’re on the paddler’s cup.
[0:14:04 – 0:14:08] Adam: But what about that only covers, you know, the open water season?
[0:14:08 – 0:14:09] Erik: The paddler’s trough.
[0:14:09 – 0:14:10] Adam: Ooh, yes.
[0:14:11 – 0:14:14] Adam: The trough, well, you know, it makes simplicity.
[0:14:14 – 0:14:16] Adam: I think you could just go with like the trough.
[0:14:16 – 0:14:17] Adam: The golden trough.
[0:14:17 – 0:14:18] Adam: It doesn’t even have to be golden.
[0:14:19 – 0:14:20] Adam: They shouldn’t.
[0:14:20 – 0:14:20] Adam: The bronze trough?
[0:14:20 – 0:14:21] Adam: I usually use the orange one.
[0:14:21 – 0:14:23] Adam: I like the orange one.
[0:14:24 – 0:14:27] Adam: Or the dark brown color one that you can sort of see through.
[0:14:27 – 0:14:29] Adam: It’s like an opaque trough.
[0:14:30 – 0:14:30] Adam: Oh, yes.
[0:14:30 – 0:14:31] Adam: I remember those ones.
[0:14:31 – 0:14:32] Adam: I like those opaque troughs.
[0:14:32 – 0:14:33] Adam: Those are old and timey.
[0:14:33 – 0:14:36] Adam: We should become trough collectors, too, while we’re at it.
[0:14:37 – 0:14:39] Adam: This is a really good brainstorm we’re having.
[0:14:39 – 0:14:40] Adam: Yeah, on mic.
[0:14:40 – 0:14:42] Adam: It’s a shame we have to get into the meat eventually.
[0:14:42 – 0:14:45] Erik: It’s a shame we have to actually talk about stuff.
[0:14:45 – 0:14:51] Erik: But before we get fully into the kielbasa, I should say.
[0:14:51 – 0:14:53] Adam: It’s kielbasa.
[0:14:53 – 0:14:54] Adam: I found.
[0:14:54 – 0:14:55] Adam: Pairs well with the chaos.
[0:14:56 – 0:14:57] Erik: First time in my life.
[0:15:00 – 0:15:03] Erik: An in the wild owl pellet.
[0:15:04 – 0:15:05] Adam: Do tell.
[0:15:05 – 0:15:08] Adam: Was there some bones involved?
[0:15:08 – 0:15:16] Erik: I was out on a walkabout in the yard checking out the four-hole disc golf course.
[0:15:16 – 0:15:20] Erik: Just last week, I was under the big pine and just was like,
[0:15:24 – 0:15:25] Erik: What is that?
[0:15:25 – 0:15:29] Erik: It looks like a big black ball of like lint.
[0:15:30 – 0:15:31] Erik: A wet ball of lint.
[0:15:31 – 0:15:32] Adam: Oh, it’s wet?
[0:15:32 – 0:15:33] Erik: Well, it looked wet.
[0:15:33 – 0:15:35] Erik: It was actually pretty dry.
[0:15:35 – 0:15:37] Erik: And I was just like, whatever.
[0:15:37 – 0:15:39] Erik: I kind of like kicked it and I was like, oh, shoot.
[0:15:40 – 0:15:43] Erik: And then I took a couple of sticks and started prying it apart.
[0:15:43 – 0:15:45] Erik: And sure enough…
[0:15:46 – 0:15:47] Erik: It was an owl pellet.
[0:15:47 – 0:15:51] Erik: And I found like, it was just like one mouse.
[0:15:53 – 0:16:02] Erik: So it wasn’t a ton of bones in it, but I was able to pick out and collect an individual one side of a mouse jawbone.
[0:16:03 – 0:16:09] Erik: That then I brought back up to the deck and presented it to the geologist’s wife.
[0:16:09 – 0:16:10] Erik: Yeah.
[0:16:10 – 0:16:16] Erik: Who was very happy, especially because she was able to pull the mouse tooth out of the jaw.
[0:16:16 – 0:16:20] Erik: And like the whole tooth is like fully, it’s like a full C. Yeah.
[0:16:22 – 0:16:25] Erik: Like a half circle that goes into the jawbone.
[0:16:26 – 0:16:29] Erik: Maybe not necessarily a mouse, but, you know, a little ground varmint.
[0:16:30 – 0:16:34] Erik: And the bones were so dried out, she was just able to, like, pull out the tooth.
[0:16:35 – 0:16:35] Erik: What?
[0:16:35 – 0:16:37] Erik: You should make an earring out of that.
[0:16:38 – 0:16:39] Adam: A mouse ear?
[0:16:39 – 0:16:40] Adam: A mouse tooth?
[0:16:40 – 0:16:41] Adam: Yes.
[0:16:41 – 0:16:42] Adam: In the earring form, yeah.
[0:16:42 – 0:16:43] Erik: An incisor.
[0:16:44 – 0:16:51] Erik: So that was very exciting for me, especially considering the conversations we’ve been having about the strigiforms in the last couple of months.
[0:16:52 – 0:17:14] Adam: interesting yeah that’s a neat find i can’t say i’ve ever seen something like that now it’s got me looking for them more because a lot of times it just looks like you know wolf poop or whatever yeah or animal poop in general but i was like maybe it’s not so now i’m just like and now i’m just like poking sticks at poop this sounds like an excellent idea just you gotta always carry a couple sticks with you in case you find something to poke at
[0:17:14 – 0:17:15] Erik: Yeah, and most of the time it’s just poop.
[0:17:16 – 0:17:18] Adam: But sometimes it’s got bones.
[0:17:18 – 0:17:19] Erik: Sometimes it’s bones.
[0:17:19 – 0:17:20] Adam: Oh, wow.
[0:17:20 – 0:17:21] Adam: Fresh.
[0:17:21 – 0:17:22] Adam: That’s fresh bones, too.
[0:17:22 – 0:17:27] Erik: Also, it’s just really cool to know that there was an owl out in that big pine tree in my yard.
[0:17:28 – 0:17:29] Adam: Yeah, so that’s what happens.
[0:17:29 – 0:17:30] Adam: Pooping out of its mouth.
[0:17:30 – 0:17:32] Adam: I thought they were kind of chewing on it.
[0:17:34 – 0:17:38] Adam: You feel a little bit like Auntie Whispers bringing something like that in the house.
[0:17:38 – 0:17:39] Erik: Oh, God.
[0:17:39 – 0:17:41] Adam: I’ve brought you mouse tooth.
[0:17:42 – 0:17:43] Erik: Mouse jawbone.
[0:17:44 – 0:17:58] Adam: ringing of the bell compels you owl oh god it did an auntie whispers yeah didn’t expect that on the show did not see that coming this is pretty good that was pretty good do you have any pre-meet notes
[0:17:59 – 0:18:04] Adam: No, I didn’t really do nothing other than I did try ice fishing on Easter.
[0:18:04 – 0:18:05] Adam: It didn’t happen, though.
[0:18:05 – 0:18:08] Adam: Otherwise, I don’t know.
[0:18:08 – 0:18:09] Adam: No, just putzing around the yard.
[0:18:09 – 0:18:12] Adam: Yeah, I mean, everything’s muddy.
[0:18:13 – 0:18:13] Adam: It’s gross out there.
[0:18:14 – 0:18:15] Erik: Be careful out there.
[0:18:15 – 0:18:17] Erik: The mud season is upon us a little early.
[0:18:18 – 0:18:40] Adam: but i don’t know i got a lot of plans in that i guess it was working at like clearing out the new studio you know eventually we’re gonna we’re gonna at our own location a dedicated studio that’s not just a spare bedroom with a table and no lighting at all the no lighting episode was the the final straw for me i got a much better lighting in the in the new studio
[0:18:41 – 0:18:45] Erik: Well, stay tuned to find out what that studio’s name will be.
[0:18:45 – 0:18:46] Adam: We’re not even sure.
[0:18:47 – 0:18:47] Adam: We’re not.
[0:18:47 – 0:18:48] Adam: We still need a door, though.
[0:18:48 – 0:18:49] Adam: There’s no door.
[0:18:49 – 0:18:51] Adam: Does anybody have any doors out there?
[0:18:51 – 0:18:53] Adam: I’ll send the measurements out on Instagram.
[0:18:53 – 0:18:55] Erik: Tumblomcast at gmail.com.
[0:18:55 – 0:18:57] Adam: Post a picture of the new studio.
[0:18:57 – 0:19:01] Adam: Needs a door with the measurements in the hashtags.
[0:19:01 – 0:19:02] Adam: Send us a door.
[0:19:02 – 0:19:04] Adam: This is our new contest.
[0:19:04 – 0:19:05] Erik: It needs to be a storm door rated contest.
[0:19:08 – 0:19:10] Adam: That’s a whole new level of Patreon.
[0:19:11 – 0:19:12] Adam: You’re going to send us a door.
[0:19:12 – 0:19:13] Adam: The storm door level?
[0:19:15 – 0:19:16] Adam: An echelon above all others.
[0:19:16 – 0:19:17] Adam: Door sponsor.
[0:19:17 – 0:19:21] Adam: Who wants to send us a door for the new studio?
[0:19:22 – 0:19:23] Adam: I’m really joking around.
[0:19:23 – 0:19:26] Adam: I’ve got a line on a door.
[0:19:26 – 0:19:27] Adam: Don’t send us any doors.
[0:19:29 – 0:19:32] Adam: We are moving to a new studio eventually, a dedicated studio, hopefully.
[0:19:32 – 0:19:34] Adam: I’ve got to bury some cat sticks out there.
[0:19:35 – 0:19:38] Adam: And, yeah, we’re going to have our own little setup going.
[0:19:39 – 0:19:44] Adam: Eric helped me move some shelving, some cabinets out there last week.
[0:19:44 – 0:19:48] Erik: We got some of Joe Rogan’s people assisting.
[0:19:48 – 0:19:51] Erik: He seems to move studios like every few months.
[0:19:51 – 0:19:53] Erik: So, you know, we got that going for us.
[0:19:54 – 0:19:56] Erik: It’s question of the week time.
[0:19:56 – 0:19:56] Erik: We’re back into it.
[0:19:57 – 0:20:04] Erik: It’s been like a month since we haven’t just chatted about fake matchups.
[0:20:05 – 0:20:06] Erik: They’re not fake.
[0:20:06 – 0:20:13] Erik: Well, the sportscaster personas have been dropped, which is kind of nice.
[0:20:13 – 0:20:15] Erik: To just, let’s just get real.
[0:20:16 – 0:20:17] Adam: Let’s get real.
[0:20:17 – 0:20:17] Adam: For sure.
[0:20:18 – 0:20:19] Erik: Q-O-T-W time.
[0:20:19 – 0:20:47] Erik: on the meat gotta get sizzle that meat it’s time for the meat uh we’re we’re doing a question of the week we’re gonna try to get it all in one here which leads me to believe that we should probably just get straight to responses kielbasa kielbasa and kielbasa it’s been almost since last fall i believe if not no before that
[0:20:49 – 0:21:10] Adam: hashtag kielbasa i’m glad you’re writing that down i’ve got my notes don’t look at my notes keep your eyes on your own notes over there i don’t have any notes well let’s uh you’ll just see the problem here you just tell me if you need me to write something down hashtag kielbasa i’ll just give you i’ll just give you one of these yeah okay i got you okay i feel what you’re cooking on the grill
[0:21:10 – 0:21:22] Erik: So there’s been kind of a bit of a, you know, if you’ve listened to us through 141 proper episodes plus however many other short ones, you know, there’s a little bit
[0:21:22 – 0:21:47] Erik: a little bit of a a thing i don’t even know what you would describe it at this point it’s a love hate relationship with coglins i think it started with the egg breakers that’s the down vote on the subreddit which apparently you don’t have access to that will always be the down vote i don’t care if you change the upvote to uh you know loon flapping its wings and
[0:21:48 – 0:21:53] Erik: I couldn’t find a good enough loon that was visible enough for you to be able to tell what it was.
[0:21:54 – 0:21:54] Adam: Yeah.
[0:21:54 – 0:21:56] Adam: Like how small of an image are we talking about?
[0:21:56 – 0:21:58] Erik: Well, it gets shrunk down, but like,
[0:21:58 – 0:22:00] Adam: So like three by three pixels?
[0:22:00 – 0:22:04] Erik: No, you can give, I don’t know, you can give Reddit any size and it’ll shrink it down.
[0:22:04 – 0:22:08] Erik: It just, anytime I try to do it, it didn’t look good enough.
[0:22:08 – 0:22:09] Erik: You couldn’t tell what it was.
[0:22:10 – 0:22:17] Erik: But anyway, so there’s been this longstanding memification of Coghlan’s brand products.
[0:22:17 – 0:22:20] Erik: We’ve talked about it at length off and on.
[0:22:21 – 0:22:25] Erik: And there’s been this suggestion that we have a full episode on Coghlan’s products.
[0:22:26 – 0:22:31] Erik: And I didn’t really think that there was enough content behind that to just…
[0:22:31 – 0:22:31] Erik: It totally is.
[0:22:31 – 0:22:45] Erik: Well, there probably is, but on the tail end of an already meme-centric and fun tumble tourney, I didn’t necessarily think that there would have been enough there.
[0:22:46 – 0:22:49] Erik: And there was also a bit of discussion that can be had on top of it.
[0:22:49 – 0:22:56] Erik: And that’s essentially a what’s worth it conversation in terms of gear.
[0:22:57 – 0:23:02] Erik: I did open it up a little bit to like food and drink, but generally mostly gear.
[0:23:03 – 0:23:18] Erik: and things that are worth spending money on, and things that are worth saving money on as it pertains to Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness camping equipment.
[0:23:20 – 0:23:24] Erik: Obviously, this does allow us to talk about some Coghlan’s products.
[0:23:25 – 0:23:28] Adam: I didn’t necessarily think a full Coghlan’s episode was…
[0:23:30 – 0:23:34] Erik: I mean, it would have been fun, but it would have just been a goof-em-up.
[0:23:35 – 0:23:36] Adam: Yeah, I like goofing around.
[0:23:36 – 0:23:40] Adam: I end up with a surprising amount of Coglins gear.
[0:23:41 – 0:23:44] Adam: The way I end up structuring it on my notes was I did my top three Cogs.
[0:23:45 – 0:23:46] Erik: Oh, wow.
[0:23:46 – 0:23:48] Adam: And I got a top three Buy It For Lifes.
[0:23:48 – 0:23:49] Erik: Okay.
[0:23:49 – 0:23:49] Adam: And it’s all gear.
[0:23:49 – 0:23:52] Adam: I didn’t do any food or drink or anything like that.
[0:23:52 – 0:23:56] Adam: I mean, yeah, there is some consumables for a trip that are definitely worth it.
[0:23:57 – 0:24:01] Adam: And there’s some things you can, you know, what’s that yellow rice in a bag?
[0:24:01 – 0:24:06] Adam: That stuff’s like 38 cents a bag, and that stuff’s totally worth it.
[0:24:06 – 0:24:08] Adam: You always have one on the bottom of the pack.
[0:24:09 – 0:24:09] Erik: Sure.
[0:24:09 – 0:24:10] Adam: You never know when you’re going to need a little Vito’s.
[0:24:11 – 0:24:11] Adam: What is it called?
[0:24:11 – 0:24:16] Erik: Vito’s with a G. They used to be my go-to all the time, even when I wasn’t camping.
[0:24:16 – 0:24:19] Adam: You’re going to get 8,000% of your daily sodium.
[0:24:20 – 0:24:20] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:24:20 – 0:24:25] Adam: So there’s a little sneak peeker for food, cheapy food.
[0:24:25 – 0:24:27] Adam: That’s the Coglins of food right there.
[0:24:27 – 0:24:28] Adam: This is the yellow Vigo’s.
[0:24:29 – 0:24:31] Erik: I’m surprised Coglins has not gotten into food.
[0:24:32 – 0:24:34] Adam: They probably are somehow making Vigo’s.
[0:24:35 – 0:24:38] Adam: I’m going to say Vigo’s is a subsidiary of Coglins.
[0:24:39 – 0:24:40] Adam: Nailed it.
[0:24:40 – 0:24:41] Erik: Nailed it.
[0:24:41 – 0:24:46] Erik: So what BWCA gear food drink do you find is worth spending the money on?
[0:24:46 – 0:24:51] Erik: And what do you think isn’t worth the extra bucks?
[0:24:51 – 0:24:54] Erik: We’re going to start with y’all.
[0:24:54 – 0:24:56] Erik: We got a lot of comments here.
[0:24:57 – 0:25:04] Erik: Starting with 13 wine boxes from paddlingpartner.com.
[0:25:06 – 0:25:10] Erik: on our Tumble Homecast on the Reddit.
[0:25:11 – 0:25:14] Erik: We are very close to crossing over the 400-member threshold.
[0:25:16 – 0:25:24] Erik: The older I have gotten, which admittedly still is not very old, the more important a good night’s rest has become.
[0:25:24 – 0:25:27] Erik: I will spend good money on anything that helps me sleep well.
[0:25:27 – 0:25:30] Erik: Sleeping bag, sleeping pad, pillow, and hammock.
[0:25:31 – 0:25:34] Erik: I will not spend extra money on shaving a few ounces off the weight.
[0:25:35 – 0:25:36] Erik: This is not backpacking.
[0:25:37 – 0:25:39] Erik: I can handle a few extra pounds on a portage.
[0:25:39 – 0:25:43] Erik: Tents, cook kits, stoves, tarps, food, paddles.
[0:25:43 – 0:25:45] Erik: I have compromised on all of these.
[0:25:45 – 0:25:55] Erik: No need to spend $800 on an ultralight tent when a slightly heavier $150 version will perform just as well.
[0:25:57 – 0:25:58] Erik: I think I agree with most of that.
[0:25:59 – 0:26:00] Adam: Yeah, that’s sound advice.
[0:26:00 – 0:26:04] Adam: I can see why they had 13 bags of wine for that comment.
[0:26:05 – 0:26:06] Adam: Top comment.
[0:26:06 – 0:26:07] Adam: Sage wisdom.
[0:26:07 – 0:26:11] Adam: The wisdom is pouring out of that comment.
[0:26:12 – 0:26:12] Erik: I mean, yeah.
[0:26:13 – 0:26:16] Adam: Like warmth from a down sleeping bag.
[0:26:16 – 0:26:19] Erik: Yeah, I mean, sleeping outside of…
[0:26:21 – 0:26:42] Erik: really anything else i mean how many other pieces of equipment do you spend a third of the day in this is like the you like work for a mattress firm yeah this is this is the pound pound the time you know how much your life your way sleeping well you want to be comfortable then
[0:26:43 – 0:26:46] Erik: You spend a 30-year life sleeping in a bed.
[0:26:46 – 0:26:48] Adam: They’ve got to go a different direction with this marketing.
[0:26:48 – 0:26:56] Adam: If I was marketing sleep anything, sleep mattress, sleep bag, I’d be going, like, there’s a totally different angle.
[0:26:56 – 0:26:59] Adam: Like, you know sleeping’s your favorite thing to do in the whole world.
[0:27:00 – 0:27:01] Adam: Just admit it.
[0:27:02 – 0:27:05] Adam: Yeah, it’s your favorite part of a camping trip.
[0:27:05 – 0:27:09] Erik: Do you want to die earlier than you have to?
[0:27:10 – 0:27:12] Adam: You know you’re probably going to die in your sleep, right?
[0:27:12 – 0:27:14] Adam: Buy a good sleeping bag.
[0:27:14 – 0:27:15] Erik: What?
[0:27:16 – 0:27:17] Erik: I guess.
[0:27:17 – 0:27:19] Erik: Makes sense.
[0:27:20 – 0:27:22] Adam: Yeah, I mean, I agree, though.
[0:27:23 – 0:27:25] Adam: Go big on the sleeping apparatus.
[0:27:25 – 0:27:27] Adam: I would say no to a camp pillow.
[0:27:27 – 0:27:29] Adam: You don’t need to spend up on a camp pillow.
[0:27:29 – 0:27:31] Adam: That’s what the raggedy hoodie is for.
[0:27:31 – 0:27:37] Adam: Otherwise, though, you’re going to want a good sleeping pad, something that’s not going to puncture and deflate after three trips.
[0:27:37 – 0:27:38] Adam: It would be preferable.
[0:27:38 – 0:27:40] Adam: Does anybody know of a brand that does that?
[0:27:41 – 0:27:42] Adam: Sea to Summit.
[0:27:42 – 0:27:43] Adam: Sea to Summit.
[0:27:43 – 0:27:44] Adam: Don’t puncture.
[0:27:44 – 0:27:46] Adam: You know what doesn’t puncture is the old Therm-a-Rest.
[0:27:47 – 0:27:49] Adam: Got a couple from the 70s or something.
[0:27:49 – 0:27:50] Adam: Those things still hold air.
[0:27:50 – 0:27:53] Erik: We’re talking, yeah, the air thermo-rests.
[0:27:53 – 0:27:54] Adam: That’s what I’m talking about.
[0:27:55 – 0:27:57] Erik: Yeah, we at Clearwater sent out Sea to Summits.
[0:27:57 – 0:28:02] Erik: I’ve never had one come back popped or claimed to have not held air.
[0:28:02 – 0:28:10] Erik: But we, towards the end of our relationship with thermo-rests, were running into issues with the newer models of them.
[0:28:11 – 0:28:16] Erik: Leaking, as well as my personal experience with Big Agnes.
[0:28:16 – 0:28:20] Erik: Their sleeping pads suck.
[0:28:21 – 0:28:23] Adam: I cuss you, Big Agnes.
[0:28:23 – 0:28:24] Erik: Their tents are great.
[0:28:24 – 0:28:26] Erik: Their sleeping bags are pretty good.
[0:28:26 – 0:28:27] Erik: They’ve got nice chairs.
[0:28:28 – 0:28:32] Erik: Their inflatable sleeping pads suck.
[0:28:32 – 0:28:34] Adam: I think my last two were Big Agnes.
[0:28:34 – 0:28:35] Adam: Yeah, they’re bad.
[0:28:35 – 0:28:36] Adam: And they both popped immediately.
[0:28:36 – 0:28:37] Erik: And it’s not a popping, though.
[0:28:37 – 0:28:39] Adam: It’s one of those things where it’s like… No, it’s just like a seepage.
[0:28:39 – 0:28:43] Erik: Just a… Like you do the soap trick, and it’s like, it’s bubbling everywhere.
[0:28:43 – 0:28:44] Erik: I have to dip this whole thing in silicone.
[0:28:44 – 0:28:46] Adam: It’s like the reverse of what the ice was doing on Easter.
[0:28:47 – 0:28:47] Adam: Yes.
[0:28:47 – 0:28:49] Adam: It’s just sort of trickling outward.
[0:28:50 – 0:28:51] Adam: I don’t like it.
[0:28:53 – 0:29:11] Erik: all right i’m gonna read a short one here from ghost of that abby so you can have a longer one from hopalicious pay for the good stuff rain gear paddle rain gear apparently that’s a hammock accessories rain gear whiskey rain gear pfd
[0:29:14 – 0:29:18] Erik: Yeah, we could do an entire episode just on rain gear.
[0:29:18 – 0:29:20] Adam: I think that’s what this is indicating.
[0:29:20 – 0:29:21] Erik: How are you rain gearing?
[0:29:22 – 0:29:26] Erik: Because it is one of those things that it’s…
[0:29:28 – 0:29:38] Erik: I feel like there is a potential in the world for a massive improvement on rain gear.
[0:29:39 – 0:29:41] Erik: Because it’s either I’m fully…
[0:29:42 – 0:30:01] Erik: dry underneath but also i’m covered in rubber yeah and hot and sweating or i go kind of halfway in between and i’ll stay dry for a little bit but then eventually it’ll soak through and i’ll get wet especially around like the waistband and on the top of the shoulders um
[0:30:02 – 0:30:10] Erik: Or I’ll go real cheap and either just basically wear the thing that gets soaked immediately or just wear a garbage bag.
[0:30:11 – 0:30:12] Erik: The garbage bag move.
[0:30:12 – 0:30:14] Erik: Which is the poncho thing.
[0:30:15 – 0:30:15] Adam: Yeah.
[0:30:15 – 0:30:16] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:30:16 – 0:30:16] Adam: Yeah.
[0:30:16 – 0:30:17] Adam: Or you just, you know.
[0:30:17 – 0:30:20] Adam: The human body is 99% water.
[0:30:21 – 0:30:23] Adam: Just embrace being wet.
[0:30:24 – 0:30:24] Adam: Just be wet.
[0:30:24 – 0:30:25] Adam: That’s my move.
[0:30:26 – 0:30:28] Adam: Just wear whatever you were wearing when it started raining.
[0:30:29 – 0:30:30] Adam: Hopefully it was wool shirt.
[0:30:32 – 0:30:32] Erik: Wool does well.
[0:30:33 – 0:30:37] Adam: And then, you know, whenever it stops raining, change to something else.
[0:30:38 – 0:30:39] Adam: And then try and dry out the other thing.
[0:30:40 – 0:30:41] Adam: That’s why I only bring…
[0:30:41 – 0:30:43] Adam: I do usually bring two things.
[0:30:43 – 0:31:05] Adam: just in case uh it rains then i gotta have the dry one yeah so if it rains two days in a row you know tough luck tough luck well we could do a whole episode just on rain gear i agree i made a note here you circled it twice how many but we already got like five check marks on rain gear we’re only uh 31 minutes into the show hopalicious is next up on the show
[0:31:07 – 0:31:10] Adam: Nine boxes of wine for Hopalicious.
[0:31:11 – 0:31:12] Adam: Here’s a few that are worth the money.
[0:31:13 – 0:31:17] Adam: One, spending extra on your wood processing tools is a good long-term investment.
[0:31:18 – 0:31:22] Adam: For years, I put up with Coleman Camp Axe because I didn’t really know any better.
[0:31:22 – 0:31:24] Adam: I viewed cutting up wood as a literal pain.
[0:31:25 – 0:31:27] Adam: Those reverberations up my arm were not great.
[0:31:28 – 0:31:31] Adam: This winter, I picked up a Condor Greenland Pattern Axe.
[0:31:32 – 0:31:35] Adam: And now I cannot wait to split up some wood for kindling.
[0:31:36 – 0:31:39] Adam: It’s no Grand Forrest Brugge, but it’s close.
[0:31:39 – 0:31:39] Adam: Hey.
[0:31:41 – 0:31:42] Adam: Nailed it.
[0:31:42 – 0:31:42] Adam: That’s what I got.
[0:31:43 – 0:31:46] Erik: That’s what I have up in the woodshed right now.
[0:31:46 – 0:31:52] Erik: I believe you were involved in paying for that as a bachelor party gift.
[0:31:52 – 0:31:54] Adam: Batchy boy got a grand force.
[0:31:54 – 0:31:58] Erik: I still split wood with that thing to this day.
[0:31:58 – 0:31:59] Adam: Very fine kindling.
[0:32:00 – 0:32:03] Adam: Two, a gravity filter is absolutely worth every penny.
[0:32:04 – 0:32:05] Adam: I am a platypus man myself.
[0:32:06 – 0:32:31] Adam: hashtag go plaidies but any gravity filter system will save you a ton of time just buy one you will quickly wonder how you lived without one for so long three a well-designed tent i had an old rea tent that was a pure pain in the butt to assemble but it was my tent so i put up with it i now own a kelty late start and i think i can assemble it in two minutes that’s impressive no
[0:32:32 – 0:32:32] Adam: It’s impressive.
[0:32:34 – 0:32:39] Adam: I was thinking about tents too, and I didn’t consider the setup time, but it is nice once you get to know a tent.
[0:32:40 – 0:32:43] Adam: You can basically set that thing up without a headlamp in a windstorm.
[0:32:43 – 0:32:54] Erik: There’s definitely a little bit of a trade-off of like, I understand how this works versus trying something new.
[0:32:55 – 0:33:24] Erik: in the off chance that it’s going to be better and that was like for me most recently was moving from muck boots to the extra toughs was like well i get i know these boots i know what size fits i’ll just buy another pair of them they’re not perfect and like taking that jump to something new i totally get like yeah i don’t know like there’s probably some tents that we send out and some tents that i use that i’m just used to it i know how they work but there’s probably a better version
[0:33:25 – 0:33:28] Adam: Yeah, the comment that started with a well-designed tent.
[0:33:28 – 0:33:33] Adam: So, I mean, yeah, if it’s well-designed, then it should be easy to set up and take down.
[0:33:33 – 0:33:36] Adam: So, I mean, that’s the number one thing.
[0:33:37 – 0:33:40] Adam: I think you could probably find a well-designed tent that wasn’t a ton of money.
[0:33:40 – 0:33:48] Adam: But, you know, I think when you spend up on the tent, I never used a Kelty, but sounds like it’s well-designed.
[0:33:49 – 0:33:52] Adam: We got a couple things that are not worth the money from Hopalicious.
[0:33:52 – 0:33:53] Adam: Ooh, here we go.
[0:33:53 – 0:33:55] Adam: We got to make sure we check these off.
[0:33:56 – 0:33:57] Adam: One, Yeti products.
[0:33:57 – 0:34:01] Adam: Sure, they might work, but the cost and the weight don’t add up to me.
[0:34:02 – 0:34:03] Adam: They are expensive, aren’t they?
[0:34:03 – 0:34:03] Adam: They are.
[0:34:03 – 0:34:04] Adam: They’re quite expensive.
[0:34:04 – 0:34:07] Erik: And there’s like four or five different knockoff brands now as well.
[0:34:07 – 0:34:07] Adam: Yeah.
[0:34:08 – 0:34:09] Adam: They got knocked off.
[0:34:10 – 0:34:11] Adam: Two, expensive headlamps.
[0:34:12 – 0:34:13] Adam: I’m not climbing Everest.
[0:34:13 – 0:34:15] Adam: At most, I’m heading to the Thunderbox at sunrise.
[0:34:16 – 0:34:18] Adam: I don’t need a headlamp that can be seen from space.
[0:34:18 – 0:34:19] Adam: I just need one that works.
[0:34:20 – 0:34:25] Adam: Yeah, and something you didn’t mention was that I tend to lose or break headlamps.
[0:34:26 – 0:34:34] Adam: At a level that doesn’t seem sustainable, but the one that and sunglasses are things that I just tear through them.
[0:34:34 – 0:34:36] Adam: It doesn’t matter if they’re expensive or if they’re cheap.
[0:34:37 – 0:34:44] Adam: They either just break or I break them or they get lost or they get stepped on.
[0:34:44 – 0:34:45] Adam: Those are just things that no matter what…
[0:34:47 – 0:35:11] Adam: uh with the headlamp i guess i have started to go with like medium level well because i don’t want the real crappy one i don’t want the duracell brand oh with the duracells in it i mean duracell brand is okay but probably a high level brand compared to like giving off radiation or something i mean yeah there was a guy that we used to battle with and he would always have like
[0:35:13 – 0:35:20] Erik: I don’t even know if it’s probably like even below Alibaba, which is basically China’s version of Amazon.
[0:35:20 – 0:35:25] Erik: He would find like these deals online for like 20 headlamps for like $20.
[0:35:25 – 0:35:26] Adam: Yeah, I used to play that game.
[0:35:27 – 0:35:29] Adam: Which is bull.
[0:35:29 – 0:35:29] Adam: Yeah.
[0:35:29 – 0:35:30] Adam: Because I get it.
[0:35:30 – 0:35:31] Adam: It’s really wasteful.
[0:35:32 – 0:35:33] Erik: I’ll give you sunglasses.
[0:35:33 – 0:35:39] Adam: Sunglasses is like probably up there in the top of my list for like… You can get a $10 pair of polarized sunglasses and it works fine.
[0:35:39 – 0:35:44] Erik: There’s no point in buying name brand sunglasses that you will eventually either lose and or break.
[0:35:44 – 0:35:49] Erik: But there are a number of headlamps out there that do offer lifetime warranties.
[0:35:50 – 0:35:51] Erik: I have purchased one.
[0:35:52 – 0:35:53] Erik: Headlamp in my life.
[0:35:53 – 0:35:57] Erik: Princeton Tech Apex Pro has a lifetime warranty.
[0:35:57 – 0:35:58] Erik: Yeah, it’s $200.
[0:35:58 – 0:36:01] Erik: Yeah, it is as bright as the sun.
[0:36:01 – 0:36:05] Erik: And if it ever breaks, you can… All right, fine.
[0:36:05 – 0:36:07] Erik: You have to throw out losing it.
[0:36:08 – 0:36:08] Erik: You can’t lose it.
[0:36:08 – 0:36:09] Erik: You can’t lose it.
[0:36:09 – 0:36:16] Erik: But if it breaks, you can mail it back in and they will send you a brand new one for free.
[0:36:16 – 0:36:28] Adam: I guess at this point I don’t lose as many things now I’m better at it you know I got a place for everything now you gotta have a little spot for everything otherwise that’s how you lose them so I’ve gotten better at that but I still break a lot of stuff
[0:36:28 – 0:36:37] Erik: It’s also, in terms of the headlamp, it really is tied to, especially right away when I was using them, was on the back of a dog sled.
[0:36:38 – 0:36:39] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:36:39 – 0:36:39] Erik: Then you need one.
[0:36:39 – 0:36:43] Erik: So you have to have those four AA big battery pack.
[0:36:43 – 0:36:43] Erik: Yeah.
[0:36:44 – 0:36:47] Erik: Because otherwise you get those little dinky ones with like a couple of AAAs.
[0:36:47 – 0:36:49] Erik: The thing dies in a couple hours in the cold.
[0:36:50 – 0:36:51] Adam: Yeah, that’s where I’m running.
[0:36:51 – 0:36:52] Adam: I have a pretty decent headlamp.
[0:36:52 – 0:36:54] Adam: Like I said, it’s a mid-range.
[0:36:54 – 0:36:56] Adam: It’s a mid-range headlamp.
[0:36:56 – 0:37:03] Adam: It’s pretty decent, but I have rechargeable AAAs for it, and they’re fine.
[0:37:03 – 0:37:09] Adam: But then I’m out there with Eric with his airport light calling in the Cessna over here.
[0:37:10 – 0:37:13] Adam: It’s like, how is it that bright?
[0:37:14 – 0:37:19] Erik: Yeah, I don’t know if they still offer the lifetime warranty on it, but I’ve sent it in four times now.
[0:37:19 – 0:37:19] Adam: We’ll see.
[0:37:19 – 0:37:20] Adam: Well, it was worth it then.
[0:37:20 – 0:37:26] Adam: All right, I’m going to take the next one here from Aldi1.
[0:37:26 – 0:37:28] Adam: We’ve got five boxes of wine.
[0:37:30 – 0:37:33] Adam: Oh, this is just a… See, I don’t know how to work Reddit.
[0:37:33 – 0:37:36] Adam: This is just a response to the previous comment.
[0:37:37 – 0:37:38] Adam: We’re not going to read all the responses.
[0:37:38 – 0:37:39] Erik: No, God, no.
[0:37:39 – 0:37:39] Erik: That would be insane.
[0:37:39 – 0:37:41] Erik: I think there’s like 50 comments on this post.
[0:37:41 – 0:37:45] Adam: How do you know when the next… Because it fully lines… You better take over.
[0:37:45 – 0:37:50] Adam: I don’t know how you work in this desktop version of Reddit.
[0:37:51 – 0:37:52] Erik: Have beer wheel panel.
[0:37:52 – 0:37:54] Adam: Don’t they have night mode for desktop version too?
[0:37:55 – 0:37:55] Erik: Maybe.
[0:37:55 – 0:37:58] Adam: You’re burning my retinas over here.
[0:37:58 – 0:38:03] Erik: A while back, I converted from buying gear I needed to replacing crap with good stuff.
[0:38:04 – 0:38:09] Erik: I won’t buy anything anymore unless I really need it and it is very durable.
[0:38:09 – 0:38:14] Erik: Cost is always a consideration, but long-term use is my ultimate decision maker.
[0:38:14 – 0:38:19] Erik: If I can spend more now, but have it forever, I will.
[0:38:20 – 0:38:21] Erik: As long as I can afford it.
[0:38:21 – 0:38:25] Erik: And not, and if not, I’ll use the crap until then.
[0:38:26 – 0:38:31] Erik: Speaking of crap, my favorite Coghlan’s item is absolutely the dozen egg holder.
[0:38:31 – 0:38:31] Erik: Boo.
[0:38:32 – 0:38:33] Erik: It’s the downvote.
[0:38:33 – 0:38:33] Erik: I’m downvoting.
[0:38:34 – 0:38:34] Erik: Yeah.
[0:38:34 – 0:38:35] Erik: Just know that half beer will…
[0:38:36 – 0:38:37] Adam: I’m going to downvote it when I get home.
[0:38:39 – 0:38:39] Adam: I won’t do that.
[0:38:39 – 0:38:40] Adam: That’s just mean.
[0:38:40 – 0:38:42] Erik: A paper towel.
[0:38:42 – 0:38:46] Erik: It is on each side with eggs in the middle plus some smart packing.
[0:38:46 – 0:38:50] Adam: The fact that you have to add paper towels is your first clue that you’re wrong.
[0:38:51 – 0:38:51] Adam: Exactly.
[0:38:51 – 0:38:54] Adam: If you have to add paper towels to a product, it’s no good.
[0:38:54 – 0:38:54] Erik: Yeah.
[0:38:55 – 0:38:57] Adam: You might as well just leave them in their normal carton.
[0:38:57 – 0:38:57] Erik: Exactly.
[0:38:57 – 0:38:59] Adam: With paper towels.
[0:38:59 – 0:39:02] Adam: That’s free and you can compost that or burn it.
[0:39:02 – 0:39:02] Adam: Don’t burn it.
[0:39:03 – 0:39:05] Erik: I feel like that is what we…
[0:39:05 – 0:39:07] Erik: I mean, I don’t feel that way.
[0:39:07 – 0:39:08] Erik: I know.
[0:39:08 – 0:39:23] Erik: I’m sorry to raise my voice, but this is seriously… Yeah, no, we send out just regular egg curtains with paper towel in the egg curtain and a little bit of masking tape on Clearwater food packages.
[0:39:24 – 0:39:25] Erik: Yeah, yeah.
[0:39:25 – 0:39:37] Erik: I mean, if you have to like supplement extra softening, be like buying a pair of shoes and then like having to like cut some cardboard to make them fit better.
[0:39:37 – 0:39:38] Adam: People put insoles in them, I guess.
[0:39:38 – 0:39:41] Adam: But yeah, like that’s another actual product.
[0:39:41 – 0:39:42] Adam: You gel.
[0:39:42 – 0:39:43] Erik: That’s a full one.
[0:39:43 – 0:39:44] Erik: That’s a full-blown product.
[0:39:45 – 0:40:08] Adam: yeah yeah but yeah you’re you’re thinking of putting like a cardboard insole in there it was pretty good yeah what the hell if you i mean seriously i think it’s like a nostalgia factor i don’t get anybody that likes there is lots of talk about people love these things the egg we’re always making fun of them they’re our downvote button they’re terrible they break eggs they literally they have one job they are designed to break eggs
[0:40:08 – 0:40:23] Adam: okay until breakfast and they fail all the time unless you like doctor them up yeah if you have to doctor up your product then it’s not really a product it’s complete failure if you even break one egg on a trip uh it was a failure
[0:40:24 – 0:40:27] Erik: Well, I have beer Will Paddle just got to talking to there.
[0:40:27 – 0:40:28] Erik: Sorry.
[0:40:28 – 0:40:29] Adam: Jesus.
[0:40:30 – 0:40:31] Adam: I was joking.
[0:40:31 – 0:40:31] Adam: No, you weren’t.
[0:40:32 – 0:40:33] Erik: No, you weren’t.
[0:40:33 – 0:40:34] Erik: Paddle faster.
[0:40:34 – 0:40:35] Erik: It’s facing me.
[0:40:35 – 0:40:37] Erik: I’ll read it, and you can do another couple in a row here.
[0:40:37 – 0:40:38] Erik: It seems like we got some nice.
[0:40:38 – 0:40:39] Adam: That was harsh.
[0:40:39 – 0:40:40] Adam: That was pretty harsh, guys.
[0:40:40 – 0:40:44] Erik: A good night’s rest in the wilderness is nearly priceless.
[0:40:44 – 0:40:49] Erik: Yeah, I cannot agree more, especially if your significant other is along.
[0:40:50 – 0:41:00] Erik: For me, ditching a restrictive mummy bag for the freedom of a quilt matched with an Exped 9LW was such a thing.
[0:41:02 – 0:41:04] Erik: I would put shelter after that.
[0:41:04 – 0:41:10] Erik: They say money can’t buy you happiness, but it can buy you a canoe trip, which is nearly the same thing.
[0:41:12 – 0:41:17] Erik: Yeah, I might have to do some research into larger sleeping bags.
[0:41:17 – 0:41:37] Adam: no your sleeping bag’s too big already oh it is yeah you got too much sleeping bag room in the pack and you got like a bunch of you and you bring sleeping pads too in a hammock i know i know lots of people do that but yeah i go all out on sleeping like i’m pretty maybe i need maybe i need to beef up my sleeping stuff
[0:41:37 – 0:41:45] Erik: Yeah, I feel like there’s probably more nights or more mornings that I’ve woken up with you than anybody else where you’re like… My feet.
[0:41:45 – 0:41:48] Erik: Not 100% satisfied with your night.
[0:41:48 – 0:41:49] Erik: What?
[0:41:49 – 0:41:51] Erik: And it’s almost always related to your feet being cold.
[0:41:51 – 0:41:53] Adam: Yeah, but all my stuff packs down to the size of a small cat.
[0:41:54 – 0:41:54] Erik: Yeah.
[0:41:56 – 0:41:56] Erik: Yeah.
[0:41:57 – 0:41:57] Erik: I think you need to…
[0:41:57 – 0:42:00] Adam: I mean, our downvote button is the Coghlan’s Egg Breaker.
[0:42:01 – 0:42:01] Adam: True.
[0:42:01 – 0:42:05] Adam: Putting that comment on there, aren’t they asking for a bit of a roast?
[0:42:05 – 0:42:07] Erik: Oh, you’re going back to that one?
[0:42:07 – 0:42:07] Erik: Yeah, I’m not over it.
[0:42:07 – 0:42:09] Erik: You’re still going back to defending yourself?
[0:42:10 – 0:42:11] Erik: Defending yourself for the roasting?
[0:42:11 – 0:42:17] Adam: I was a little mean, but I think that’s kind of what the deal was there, right?
[0:42:17 – 0:42:24] Erik: Yeah, it looks like the number of subscribers to our subreddit is going down.
[0:42:25 – 0:42:26] Erik: Going down.
[0:42:26 – 0:42:26] Erik: Too harsh.
[0:42:27 – 0:42:28] Erik: The hosts are too harsh.
[0:42:28 – 0:42:31] Erik: What’s wrong with this guy?
[0:42:31 – 0:42:33] Erik: This is a legit Aldi 1 response.
[0:42:33 – 0:42:35] Erik: Not a comment.
[0:42:36 – 0:42:36] Adam: Not a response.
[0:42:36 – 0:42:39] Adam: Thank you for fixing the Reddit for me, Eric.
[0:42:40 – 0:42:40] Adam: Aldi 1.
[0:42:41 – 0:42:42] Adam: Seven boxes of wine.
[0:42:43 – 0:42:44] Adam: Worth the money.
[0:42:45 – 0:42:45] Adam: PFD.
[0:42:45 – 0:42:47] Adam: My favorite new item of 2020.
[0:42:47 – 0:42:51] Adam: Pockets to hold your things and flotation stuff to save your life.
[0:42:51 – 0:42:52] Adam: Huzzah, huzzah.
[0:42:53 – 0:42:54] Adam: Two, a paddle.
[0:42:54 – 0:42:58] Adam: Any paddle other than the Outfitter Rentals is a game changer.
[0:42:59 – 0:43:01] Adam: And I’m going to go ahead and add that that is a rock fact.
[0:43:01 – 0:43:02] Adam: Three, underwear.
[0:43:03 – 0:43:07] Adam: I bring one sportswear pair and one comfy nighttime pair.
[0:43:08 – 0:43:09] Adam: It’s worth bringing your favorite pairs.
[0:43:10 – 0:43:10] Adam: Oh, all right.
[0:43:11 – 0:43:12] Adam: That’s good to know.
[0:43:12 – 0:43:12] Erik: Yeah.
[0:43:13 – 0:43:13] Erik: Agreed.
[0:43:14 – 0:43:24] Erik: I mean, it is definitely more of a strategy to keep one of those for like just putting on in the sleeping bag at night versus like your traveling pair.
[0:43:25 – 0:43:28] Erik: Those travelers, they’re going to get pretty gungy.
[0:43:29 – 0:43:30] Adam: I never change my underwear.
[0:43:31 – 0:43:32] Adam: Not worth the money.
[0:43:32 – 0:43:34] Erik: You’re supposed to be the expert.
[0:43:34 – 0:43:36] Adam: One pair is all you need, Eric.
[0:43:36 – 0:43:40] Adam: You just got to make them a really good pair.
[0:43:40 – 0:43:41] Adam: It is.
[0:43:41 – 0:43:42] Adam: Bring your favorite pair.
[0:43:42 – 0:43:46] Erik: I would not bring my favorite pair if I knew I was going to wear it for the whole trip.
[0:43:46 – 0:43:49] Adam: Well, I always bring a spare, but I never change.
[0:43:49 – 0:43:51] Adam: I never change.
[0:43:51 – 0:43:52] Adam: Why would you change?
[0:43:52 – 0:43:53] Adam: You got these all broken in.
[0:43:53 – 0:43:54] Adam: They’re perfect.
[0:43:54 – 0:43:56] Erik: You’re going to get like a yeast infection.
[0:43:57 – 0:43:59] Adam: No, no, no.
[0:43:59 – 0:44:00] Adam: Not worth the money.
[0:44:00 – 0:44:01] Adam: Food.
[0:44:02 – 0:44:03] Erik: What?
[0:44:03 – 0:44:04] Adam: I’m just kidding.
[0:44:05 – 0:44:05] Adam: Food.
[0:44:05 – 0:44:06] Adam: No, that is the answer, though.
[0:44:06 – 0:44:07] Adam: Aldi won.
[0:44:07 – 0:44:08] Adam: Not worth the money.
[0:44:08 – 0:44:09] Adam: Food.
[0:44:09 – 0:44:12] Adam: Those expensive garbage bags of dehydrated food.
[0:44:12 – 0:44:14] Adam: Make homemade and get creative.
[0:44:14 – 0:44:15] Adam: Oh, so I see.
[0:44:15 – 0:44:16] Adam: I get it.
[0:44:16 – 0:44:17] Adam: Yeah, it’s cheaper to make homemade.
[0:44:18 – 0:44:18] Erik: Yeah.
[0:44:18 – 0:44:19] Adam: Yeah, that’s true.
[0:44:20 – 0:44:26] Erik: Yeah, you can just go ahead and F right off with going to REI and buying anything that they have available for food.
[0:44:27 – 0:44:30] Adam: Yeah, that’s worse than bringing eggs in an egg breaker.
[0:44:30 – 0:44:32] Erik: Yeah, bring some egg breakers in.
[0:44:32 – 0:44:35] Adam: Yeah, I’d rather you have broken eggs than have that crap.
[0:44:35 – 0:45:02] Erik: richmore mountain house i mean even like some of the good stuff is like it’s good for like a night yeah it’s good if you want to fart your brains out i’m serious but to have it with that did you like a full trip of dehydrated foods it’s like like after a couple of days you just don’t even feel like a human yeah i farted so loud in the grand canyon that the rattlesnakes were fleeing from me wow
[0:45:03 – 0:45:03] Adam: Think about that.
[0:45:04 – 0:45:04] Erik: Think about that.
[0:45:04 – 0:45:08] Erik: While you’re thinking about that, think about this.
[0:45:10 – 0:45:12] Erik: Make your own dehydrated food.
[0:45:12 – 0:45:20] Erik: If not, plan on just bringing in a little bit of extra weight and eat as fresh as possible for as long as possible.
[0:45:22 – 0:45:25] Adam: I think I’ve got it to a pair of choppers is next on the show.
[0:45:25 – 0:45:28] Adam: You’ve got it figured out here.
[0:45:28 – 0:45:29] UNKNOWN: Look at me.
[0:45:31 – 0:45:32] Erik: A pair of choppers.
[0:45:32 – 0:45:57] Erik: worth it premium grade a gold bond powder those who know no now you know it soothes you yeah full stop yeah yeah and party lights not worth it cell service in the bwca
[0:45:58 – 0:46:05] Erik: Yeah, I’m going to just go ahead and… Can we go ahead and crack the first loon bleep of the year?
[0:46:06 – 0:46:07] Adam: Go for it.
[0:46:07 – 0:46:08] Erik: Fuck that.
[0:46:10 – 0:46:15] Erik: Cell phone service in the B-Dub is anathema.
[0:46:17 – 0:46:18] Adam: Yeah, fuck that.
[0:46:18 – 0:46:19] Erik: God.
[0:46:21 – 0:46:22] Adam: Get out of here with that.
[0:46:24 – 0:46:31] Erik: we’re going to have to cross that horrible, horrible bridge whenever we have to.
[0:46:31 – 0:46:34] Erik: And it sucks that we have to.
[0:46:36 – 0:46:37] Erik: Cheap dancer.
[0:46:37 – 0:46:42] Erik: I spare no expenses when it comes to bringing a good book.
[0:46:43 – 0:46:47] Erik: Pro tip, hardcover books can double as a cutting board.
[0:46:47 – 0:46:48] Adam: Wow.
[0:46:49 – 0:46:50] Adam: Or you can pass the pigs on them.
[0:46:50 – 0:46:54] Erik: I also feel like we’re getting trolled once again by Cheap Dancer.
[0:46:54 – 0:46:54] Erik: Wow.
[0:46:54 – 0:46:57] Erik: Favorite Coghlan’s gear, tablecloth.
[0:46:58 – 0:47:02] Erik: Yes, tablecloth clamps, six-pack for $3.99.
[0:47:02 – 0:47:03] Erik: The clamps.
[0:47:03 – 0:47:04] Erik: The clamps.
[0:47:05 – 0:47:06] Erik: Oh, man.
[0:47:06 – 0:47:10] Erik: We have not had enough Coghlan’s gear chat up to this point.
[0:47:10 – 0:47:11] Adam: I love the clamps.
[0:47:11 – 0:47:12] Adam: Good pick.
[0:47:12 – 0:47:13] Adam: That’s a real nice one.
[0:47:14 – 0:47:14] Adam: That’s underrated.
[0:47:14 – 0:47:15] Adam: I like that.
[0:47:15 – 0:47:16] Adam: Do we have a price on that?
[0:47:16 – 0:47:17] Erik: Yeah, $3.99.
[0:47:17 – 0:47:18] Adam: $3.99, yeah.
[0:47:18 – 0:47:19] Adam: A six-pack.
[0:47:19 – 0:47:22] Adam: That’s the rule from now on, by the way, anybody listening.
[0:47:22 – 0:47:25] Adam: If you’re going to talk about Coghlan’s gear, you’ve got to have the price attached.
[0:47:25 – 0:47:26] Erik: The prices.
[0:47:26 – 0:47:29] Adam: Otherwise, we don’t know how great of a value it is.
[0:47:30 – 0:47:30] Erik: No.
[0:47:31 – 0:47:32] Erik: You should read these next two.
[0:47:32 – 0:47:33] Erik: I got you queued up.
[0:47:33 – 0:47:37] Adam: Next up on the show, friend of the show, Max Kaven.
[0:47:37 – 0:47:38] Adam: Max.
[0:47:38 – 0:47:40] Adam: Five box of wine for Max.
[0:47:40 – 0:47:42] Erik: I still have your radio.
[0:47:43 – 0:47:43] Erik: What?
[0:47:43 – 0:47:45] Adam: You didn’t give him back the ham radio?
[0:47:45 – 0:47:46] Erik: I don’t have an address for him.
[0:47:47 – 0:47:47] Erik: I sent him an email.
[0:47:48 – 0:47:51] Adam: Seriously, well, you got to at least tell us how to reprogram this sucker.
[0:47:51 – 0:47:56] Adam: You got to turn up the VHS nods or the UHF nodules.
[0:47:56 – 0:48:00] Adam: Perhaps got to adjust the frequencies.
[0:48:00 – 0:48:02] Adam: No, we’re sending it back to you.
[0:48:02 – 0:48:05] Adam: We’re not rated for this kind of gizmo.
[0:48:05 – 0:48:12] Erik: If you were looking forward to having it as some kind of an in-house bug, it is currently buried out in the yard right now.
[0:48:12 – 0:48:15] Erik: I will dig it up and send it home if you can just send me an email.
[0:48:15 – 0:48:17] Erik: DoubleHomeCast at gmail.com.
[0:48:17 – 0:48:19] Erik: Where would you like your radio sent?
[0:48:19 – 0:48:20] Adam: Please tell us.
[0:48:21 – 0:48:22] Adam: I’m also on Instagram.
[0:48:22 – 0:48:23] Adam: You can tell us there.
[0:48:24 – 0:48:24] Adam: DM me.
[0:48:25 – 0:48:25] Adam: Don’t worry.
[0:48:25 – 0:48:28] Adam: It’s buried in a Coghlan’s sack.
[0:48:28 – 0:48:28] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:48:29 – 0:48:31] Erik: It’s not covered in dirt.
[0:48:32 – 0:48:34] Erik: It’s in a solid box, but it is underground.
[0:48:35 – 0:48:37] Adam: Five boxes of wine for Max.
[0:48:37 – 0:48:38] Adam: Ultralight canoes.
[0:48:38 – 0:48:41] Adam: It all starts there for me and trickles down.
[0:48:41 – 0:48:47] Adam: Once you pick up something like a 30-pound solo boat, you never want to go back to anything else for tripping.
[0:48:48 – 0:48:53] Adam: I just picked up a Northwind solo in blacklight, and I’m eagerly awaiting the first trip of the year.
[0:48:53 – 0:48:53] Adam: Oh, my.
[0:48:53 – 0:48:55] Adam: Oh, my.
[0:48:55 – 0:48:57] Adam: That’s got me a little hot.
[0:48:58 – 0:49:00] Erik: Yeah, we got a couple of magics coming our way at Clearwater.
[0:49:02 – 0:49:03] Adam: Ooh.
[0:49:03 – 0:49:04] Adam: North wind magics.
[0:49:04 – 0:49:06] Adam: Dual solo trip on Lake One.
[0:49:06 – 0:49:09] Erik: I don’t want to be those guys.
[0:49:09 – 0:49:11] Erik: You want to be the old guys doing the dual solo trip?
[0:49:11 – 0:49:13] Adam: I don’t want to be those guys.
[0:49:14 – 0:49:16] Adam: I got everything how I like it in here.
[0:49:16 – 0:49:17] Adam: I don’t need to have two people.
[0:49:17 – 0:49:18] Erik: I get it.
[0:49:18 – 0:49:19] Erik: I get it.
[0:49:19 – 0:49:23] Erik: But it’s so funny when I get those phone calls where they’re like, yeah, I got a group of three.
[0:49:23 – 0:49:25] Erik: We all want to do our own solos.
[0:49:25 – 0:49:26] Erik: It’s like, I only have three solos.
[0:49:30 – 0:49:34] Erik: Like, you’re going to blow up my solo supply just all in one weekend?
[0:49:35 – 0:49:36] UNKNOWN: Black Knight.
[0:49:37 – 0:49:38] Adam: I can’t wait to see that.
[0:49:39 – 0:49:40] Erik: I’m sure it’s sexy.
[0:49:41 – 0:49:42] Adam: Post pics on Instagram.
[0:49:42 – 0:49:43] Adam: I’m sure it’s a beautiful canoe.
[0:49:44 – 0:49:46] Adam: Next up on the show, Kiggity K-Bomb.
[0:49:47 – 0:49:49] Adam: Four box of wine for Kiggity K-Bomb.
[0:49:50 – 0:49:51] Adam: Things I go cheap on.
[0:49:51 – 0:49:54] Adam: Lights, cooking gear, and dishes.
[0:49:54 – 0:49:55] Adam: Packs and bags.
[0:49:56 – 0:49:57] Adam: Tents and tarps.
[0:49:57 – 0:49:57] Adam: I love it.
[0:49:58 – 0:49:58] Adam: Tents?
[0:49:58 – 0:49:59] Adam: That’s what I’m talking about.
[0:49:59 – 0:49:59] Adam: Yeah.
[0:49:59 – 0:50:01] Erik: You’re just stopping for the Wenzel?
[0:50:01 – 0:50:03] Erik: Is that the next brand we’re going to start ripping on?
[0:50:03 – 0:50:05] Erik: Remember Wenzel?
[0:50:05 – 0:50:06] Adam: Wenzels are great.
[0:50:06 – 0:50:08] Erik: It’s a Walmart brand, isn’t it?
[0:50:08 – 0:50:10] Erik: I don’t know what you’re even talking about.
[0:50:10 – 0:50:17] Erik: If you drive by a tent in a ditch, five times out of eight, it’s a Wenzel.
[0:50:18 – 0:50:19] Adam: Going cheap on the lights?
[0:50:19 – 0:50:20] Adam: Yeah, lights are cheap.
[0:50:20 – 0:50:23] Erik: That is blown away from just a homeless encampment.
[0:50:26 – 0:50:27] Adam: Oh, man.
[0:50:27 – 0:50:33] Adam: I went to a bluegrass festival one time, and yeah, all the tents that were still left in the lot.
[0:50:33 – 0:50:34] Adam: That Sunday afternoon?
[0:50:34 – 0:50:35] Adam: Abandoned tents, all of them.
[0:50:36 – 0:50:38] Adam: Seven out of five of those tents were Wenzels.
[0:50:38 – 0:50:40] Adam: I don’t think that’s really the brand we’re talking about.
[0:50:40 – 0:50:41] Erik: Oh, it is.
[0:50:41 – 0:50:42] Erik: I know what you’re talking about.
[0:50:42 – 0:50:45] Erik: It’s like, hey, we’re going to go like half tent.
[0:50:50 – 0:50:54] Erik: And then like 60% screen porch area.
[0:50:54 – 0:50:56] Adam: Those tents are like half made.
[0:50:56 – 0:50:57] Adam: I used underwear.
[0:50:57 – 0:51:00] Erik: They’re just like the slightest breeze.
[0:51:00 – 0:51:11] Erik: And it’s just like they just like they collapse like those little Amish guys where you press the bottom of the the wooden standing man and you press the thing and it just collapses and
[0:51:12 – 0:51:14] Adam: Yeah, I think I know what you’re talking about.
[0:51:14 – 0:51:15] Adam: I was like, what the hell are you talking about?
[0:51:15 – 0:51:22] Erik: It’s like a standing wooden man with the tension on it and you press the bottom of the button and all the tension releases.
[0:51:22 – 0:51:22] Erik: Those are Amish?
[0:51:24 – 0:51:25] Adam: Yeah.
[0:51:25 – 0:51:26] Adam: Let’s just go ahead and see.
[0:51:26 – 0:51:31] Adam: We’ll probably see that on Antiques Roadshow tonight.
[0:51:31 – 0:51:32] Erik: This guy camps in a Wenzel tent.
[0:51:33 – 0:51:36] Adam: Kiggity K-Bomb just said…
[0:51:36 – 0:51:38] Adam: He goes…
[0:51:38 – 0:51:40] Erik: He said he cheaps out everything.
[0:51:40 – 0:51:41] Erik: What does he go hard on?
[0:51:41 – 0:51:43] Adam: That’s my favorite part of it.
[0:51:43 – 0:51:44] Adam: That’s basically everything.
[0:51:44 – 0:51:45] Erik: And then we drank Dom.
[0:51:45 – 0:51:49] Adam: You didn’t let me finish.
[0:51:49 – 0:51:51] Adam: I’m going to start over on this one.
[0:51:51 – 0:51:52] Adam: Kiggity K-Bomb.
[0:51:52 – 0:51:53] Adam: Four boxes of wine.
[0:51:53 – 0:51:55] Adam: Things I go cheap on.
[0:51:55 – 0:51:55] Adam: Lights.
[0:51:56 – 0:51:56] Adam: Cooking gear.
[0:51:56 – 0:51:57] Adam: Dishes.
[0:51:57 – 0:51:57] Adam: Packs.
[0:51:58 – 0:51:58] Adam: Bags.
[0:51:59 – 0:52:00] Adam: Tents and tarps.
[0:52:01 – 0:52:08] Adam: Things I splurge for, sleeping bags, sleeping pads, socks and base layers, and other camp garb.
[0:52:09 – 0:52:10] Adam: Garbs in quotes.
[0:52:10 – 0:52:15] Erik: I’d like to know what that camp… What are you going hard on in terms of camp garb?
[0:52:15 – 0:52:15] Erik: Is that drugs?
[0:52:16 – 0:52:19] Erik: Wearing like designer… Garb.
[0:52:20 – 0:52:21] Adam: Like big hats.
[0:52:21 – 0:52:23] Adam: A lot of flair.
[0:52:24 – 0:52:26] Adam: Scarves?
[0:52:26 – 0:52:28] Adam: Maybe I need a camp scarf.
[0:52:29 – 0:52:30] Adam: That’s a garb.
[0:52:32 – 0:52:34] Erik: What’s an expensive… Yeah, all right.
[0:52:34 – 0:52:34] Erik: Fanny packs.
[0:52:34 – 0:52:36] Erik: I get some of the other things, but garb.
[0:52:37 – 0:52:38] Erik: Expensive garb.
[0:52:39 – 0:52:40] Adam: Well, it was a weird comment.
[0:52:40 – 0:52:41] Adam: Like a nice vest?
[0:52:42 – 0:52:43] Adam: All the way… Yeah.
[0:52:45 – 0:52:46] Adam: A sweet visor.
[0:52:47 – 0:52:47] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:52:48 – 0:52:49] Adam: Overall, I like the comment, though.
[0:52:50 – 0:52:51] Adam: It’s straight to the point.
[0:52:51 – 0:52:51] Erik: Yeah.
[0:52:52 – 0:52:54] Erik: I don’t necessarily agree with a lot of it, but…
[0:52:55 – 0:52:58] Adam: I think we got some Coghlan stuff coming up in the next comment.
[0:52:59 – 0:53:08] Erik: Well, I’m glad we also did finally, after 140 plus episodes, get Wenzel involved in the really, really.
[0:53:08 – 0:53:09] Erik: Sick burn.
[0:53:10 – 0:53:11] Erik: Itty camping gear.
[0:53:12 – 0:53:12] Erik: All right.
[0:53:13 – 0:53:13] Erik: 53.
[0:53:13 – 0:53:14] Erik: Write that one down.
[0:53:18 – 0:53:18] Adam: Eric, take it easy.
[0:53:20 – 0:53:25] Erik: Oh, this is, I believe, first time commenter.
[0:53:26 – 0:53:27] Erik: I’ve never seen this one.
[0:53:28 – 0:53:31] Erik: Jeu de puissance.
[0:53:33 – 0:53:34] Erik: I probably butchered it.
[0:53:35 – 0:53:36] Adam: You need a little bell.
[0:53:36 – 0:53:38] Erik: Jeu de puissance.
[0:53:39 – 0:53:39] Adam: Nailed it.
[0:53:40 – 0:53:43] Erik: It’s probably French and I’m butchering it.
[0:53:43 – 0:53:45] Adam: And also deeply offended, I am sure.
[0:53:48 – 0:53:54] Adam: How dare you talk about my name like this with a couple of spoon.
[0:53:56 – 0:53:57] Adam: Now they’re deeply offended.
[0:53:58 – 0:53:59] Adam: Now they are.
[0:53:59 – 0:53:59] Adam: Yes.
[0:53:59 – 0:54:01] Adam: We’re just offending people left and right today.
[0:54:01 – 0:54:03] Adam: Well, that’s what these episodes are all about.
[0:54:03 – 0:54:04] Adam: Mostly you, I think.
[0:54:05 – 0:54:06] Erik: Mostly me.
[0:54:06 – 0:54:06] Adam: Yeah.
[0:54:07 – 0:54:07] Adam: Take it easy.
[0:54:08 – 0:54:08] Erik: Well, okay.
[0:54:09 – 0:54:16] Erik: I bought my canoeing buddy a Werner carbon fiber bent shaft paddle for his 40th birthday last year.
[0:54:16 – 0:54:17] Adam: You are a true friend.
[0:54:18 – 0:54:18] Erik: Dang.
[0:54:18 – 0:54:24] Erik: I don’t have one myself, but he tells me there’s no turning back now and that I should get one for myself.
[0:54:24 – 0:54:25] Adam: What is it?
[0:54:25 – 0:54:25] Adam: A Werner?
[0:54:26 – 0:54:28] Erik: Werner with a W. I pronounce it German style.
[0:54:29 – 0:54:29] Erik: Werner.
[0:54:30 – 0:54:33] Erik: V. Also worth the money.
[0:54:33 – 0:54:36] Erik: A Purcell trench grill.
[0:54:40 – 0:54:42] Adam: Don’t know what that is either.
[0:54:43 – 0:54:45] Erik: Lightweight, strong, cools quickly.
[0:54:46 – 0:54:49] Erik: Oh, underappreciated aspect of a stove.
[0:54:50 – 0:54:52] Erik: One that cools down quickly.
[0:54:52 – 0:54:54] Erik: Getting the grill changed…
[0:54:55 – 0:55:03] Erik: Me from a primarily stove cooker to a primarily fire cooker, which has saved me lots of money on camping gas.
[0:55:04 – 0:55:04] Erik: Yeah.
[0:55:06 – 0:55:09] Erik: Camp gas, it’s a thing.
[0:55:10 – 0:55:15] Erik: My Coghlan Sierra saw was my main wood processor for many seasons.
[0:55:15 – 0:55:22] Erik: It wasn’t that bad, but once I started cooking more with fire and hot tinting, I needed something with better performance.
[0:55:23 – 0:55:25] Adam: The old Sierra saw, no price listed.
[0:55:26 – 0:55:27] Erik: No, it’s probably $3.99.
[0:55:27 – 0:55:30] Adam: I’m going to say $3.99 sounds about right.
[0:55:30 – 0:55:32] Erik: Everything’s $3.99.
[0:55:32 – 0:55:35] Erik: That’s a Sierra saw there.
[0:55:35 – 0:55:35] Adam: It’s $3.99.
[0:55:36 – 0:55:36] Erik: Sierra saw.
[0:55:37 – 0:55:37] Erik: Sierra saw.
[0:55:37 – 0:55:38] Adam: How’s she going by there?
[0:55:39 – 0:55:40] Adam: Tan Sierra saw.
[0:55:41 – 0:55:42] Adam: Tan Sierra saw.
[0:55:44 – 0:55:45] Erik: She’s pretty in the scene.
[0:55:48 – 0:55:49] Adam: All right.
[0:55:49 – 0:55:50] Adam: Compose yourself.
[0:55:51 – 0:55:54] Adam: I’m pretty excited to get back to the meat, obviously.
[0:55:55 – 0:55:55] Erik: I’m going to do another one.
[0:55:56 – 0:55:57] Erik: Purcell Trench Grill.
[0:55:57 – 0:55:58] Erik: Sizzling.
[0:55:59 – 0:55:59] Adam: That pork.
[0:56:00 – 0:56:01] Erik: No, we’ll just switch it.
[0:56:01 – 0:56:02] Adam: You can do this next one.
[0:56:03 – 0:56:04] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:56:04 – 0:56:10] Adam: Next up on the show, friend of the show, AcidDiarrhea612, three boxes of wine.
[0:56:10 – 0:56:12] Adam: I can’t do the instant coffee.
[0:56:12 – 0:56:17] Adam: I’ll gladly lug along a French press and some primo beans from the Co-op.
[0:56:17 – 0:56:22] Adam: Amazing tasting coffee in the woods makes for the best mornings, and that’s what I’m there for.
[0:56:23 – 0:56:24] Adam: Not worth it.
[0:56:24 – 0:56:25] Adam: $90 headlamps.
[0:56:25 – 0:56:26] Adam: Full stop.
[0:56:26 – 0:56:28] Erik: Yeah, but you heard my thoughts on that before.
[0:56:28 – 0:56:31] Erik: If you can get a lifetime warranty on them, they’re totally worth it.
[0:56:32 – 0:56:33] Erik: If you lose a lot of headlamps, I get it.
[0:56:35 – 0:56:35] Adam: Edit.
[0:56:35 – 0:56:40] Adam: My favorite piece of Coghlan’s gear would be the commando saw you guys sent me.
[0:56:40 – 0:56:45] Adam: Works perfect for all the bone sawing I find myself doing in the park.
[0:56:45 – 0:56:45] Erik: Oh, no.
[0:56:46 – 0:56:50] Erik: Monty whispers, the ringing of the bell commands thee.
[0:56:50 – 0:56:51] Erik: My child.
[0:56:52 – 0:56:53] Erik: Sweet child.
[0:56:54 – 0:56:55] Adam: Did we send him?
[0:56:55 – 0:56:56] Adam: Commando Saw?
[0:56:56 – 0:56:57] Adam: I didn’t know.
[0:56:57 – 0:56:58] Adam: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[0:56:58 – 0:56:59] Adam: He must have been one of the interns.
[0:57:00 – 0:57:03] Erik: It’s one of those, yeah, one of our interns probably picked that out for you.
[0:57:03 – 0:57:07] Erik: But I think it’s probably one of those, like, it comes, like, spooled up.
[0:57:08 – 0:57:09] Erik: It’s like, you know.
[0:57:09 – 0:57:09] Adam: Oh.
[0:57:09 – 0:57:10] Adam: And you do the.
[0:57:10 – 0:57:12] Adam: It’s like a hand chainsaw.
[0:57:12 – 0:57:14] Erik: Yeah, like, this is going to last.
[0:57:14 – 0:57:14] Adam: Commando Saw.
[0:57:15 – 0:57:15] Adam: No price listed.
[0:57:16 – 0:57:20] Adam: I’m going to go ahead and say $3.99 sounds fair for a commando saw.
[0:57:20 – 0:57:22] Adam: Depends on where you found it.
[0:57:23 – 0:57:24] Adam: Depending on the market.
[0:57:24 – 0:57:26] Adam: I would probably insure that commando saw for $5.
[0:57:26 – 0:57:27] Adam: Yeah.
[0:57:28 – 0:57:28] Adam: At least.
[0:57:29 – 0:57:30] Adam: Yeah.
[0:57:30 – 0:57:31] Adam: The instant coffee.
[0:57:31 – 0:57:31] Adam: Yeah.
[0:57:32 – 0:57:33] Adam: I mean, I just had some bad instant coffee.
[0:57:34 – 0:57:35] Adam: There’s good instant coffee.
[0:57:35 – 0:57:37] Adam: And then there’s this other stuff we have.
[0:57:37 – 0:57:42] Adam: And we were out camping and had a bunch of that to start the day.
[0:57:42 – 0:57:43] Adam: And I was like, the hell with this.
[0:57:43 – 0:57:44] Adam: Like, I’m going to have a beer.
[0:57:44 – 0:57:48] Erik: What’s the stuff that we got turned on to originally?
[0:57:48 – 0:57:50] Erik: The Diage.
[0:57:50 – 0:57:51] Erik: Yes, that’s the best.
[0:57:51 – 0:57:52] Adam: Oh, the Diage, baby.
[0:57:53 – 0:57:55] Erik: There’s nothing that compares to that.
[0:57:57 – 0:57:57] Adam: Chef’s Kiffs.
[0:57:58 – 0:57:59] Adam: I’m going to read two.
[0:58:00 – 0:58:00] Adam: No, we’re not.
[0:58:00 – 0:58:01] Adam: We’re switching them back and forth.
[0:58:01 – 0:58:02] Adam: We agreed.
[0:58:03 – 0:58:05] Adam: We’re up to Barb’s Bannock.
[0:58:05 – 0:58:06] Adam: Barb’s Bannock.
[0:58:07 – 0:58:08] Erik: Friend of the show.
[0:58:08 – 0:58:09] Erik: Friend of the show.
[0:58:09 – 0:58:10] Erik: Barb’s Bannock.
[0:58:10 – 0:58:11] Erik: I almost think a better question.
[0:58:12 – 0:58:12] Erik: Come on, Barb.
[0:58:13 – 0:58:19] Erik: You’re not going to come at us with providing us with maybe a better question to ask would be this.
[0:58:19 – 0:58:20] Erik: Let’s see.
[0:58:20 – 0:58:20] Erik: Fine.
[0:58:21 – 0:58:27] Erik: Better question would be, what would you be willing to scrimp on or go cheap on for gear?
[0:58:28 – 0:58:35] Erik: Because I’m pretty much Franzia on all of the above, but might be willing to scrimp on… Are you Franzia, verb Franzia?
[0:58:36 – 0:58:37] Erik: I think that was a verb.
[0:58:38 – 0:58:44] Erik: I might need to read this whole comment over again to fully understand what is happening here.
[0:58:45 – 0:58:52] Erik: I also need to maybe come to terms with the term scrimp.
[0:58:53 – 0:58:54] Erik: Is that a word?
[0:58:55 – 0:58:56] Erik: Isn’t it skimp?
[0:58:57 – 0:58:58] Adam: Scrimp and white wine.
[0:58:59 – 0:59:03] Erik: Scrimp and white wine.
[0:59:04 – 0:59:06] Adam: Scrimp and white wine.
[0:59:06 – 0:59:11] Erik: So we finally got to the point where we’re just fully making fun of people that are responding.
[0:59:11 – 0:59:12] Adam: What has gotten into us tonight?
[0:59:12 – 0:59:13] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:59:13 – 0:59:13] Adam: Scrimp?
[0:59:14 – 0:59:15] Erik: Scrimp?
[0:59:15 – 0:59:18] Adam: Scrimp’s a fine derivative of skimp.
[0:59:18 – 0:59:20] Adam: Yeah, it’s a regional.
[0:59:20 – 0:59:22] Adam: It’s like the difference between smelt and shmelt.
[0:59:22 – 0:59:23] Adam: Same diff.
[0:59:24 – 0:59:24] Erik: All right.
[0:59:25 – 0:59:26] Erik: So, Barb’s Bannock.
[0:59:27 – 0:59:36] Erik: I almost think a better question would be that, would be, would you be willing to scrimp on or go cheap on for gear?
[0:59:37 – 0:59:39] Erik: So, what would you be willing to go cheap on?
[0:59:40 – 0:59:43] Erik: Because I’m pretty much Franzia on all of the above.
[0:59:44 – 0:59:55] Erik: I guess that’s assuming, I’m going to say she, Barb, is in there, is willing to go cheap on everything that’s been mentioned up to this point.
[0:59:56 – 1:00:02] Erik: But might be willing to scrimp on dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot.
[1:00:02 – 1:00:03] Erik: Three dots.
[1:00:04 – 1:00:07] Erik: Followed by another three dots.
[1:00:07 – 1:00:09] Adam: Double ellipsis.
[1:00:09 – 1:00:09] Adam: Okay.
[1:00:09 – 1:00:10] Adam: Really thinking.
[1:00:10 – 1:00:11] Adam: We’re thinking this one through.
[1:00:12 – 1:00:13] Erik: Maybe a camp pillow?
[1:00:14 – 1:00:17] Adam: That’s what the splurge on?
[1:00:17 – 1:00:18] Erik: No, that’s maybe the scrimping.
[1:00:19 – 1:00:19] Adam: Okay.
[1:00:20 – 1:00:21] Adam: I’m so confused.
[1:00:21 – 1:00:22] Erik: Yeah, I’m confused as well.
[1:00:22 – 1:00:27] Erik: Maybe the occasional off-brand wool socks, maybe off-brand lemonade mix.
[1:00:27 – 1:00:28] Erik: That’s about it.
[1:00:28 – 1:00:30] Adam: No, I think this is all things to be scrimped.
[1:00:32 – 1:00:34] Adam: These are things you can Franzia, I guess.
[1:00:34 – 1:00:36] Adam: Are you saying Franzia is cheap?
[1:00:37 – 1:00:38] Adam: I’m not sure.
[1:00:38 – 1:00:42] Adam: I think Peter Vea is the, if you’re going to go with, I don’t know.
[1:00:43 – 1:00:51] Erik: I think the pivotal sentence that has us a little bit vexed is because I’m pretty much Franzia on all of the above.
[1:00:51 – 1:00:54] Adam: I think Franzia means you’re going classy.
[1:00:54 – 1:00:57] Erik: But also our Franzia, Franzia is the upvote button.
[1:00:57 – 1:00:58] Adam: Yeah.
[1:00:58 – 1:00:59] Adam: So that means up.
[1:01:00 – 1:01:00] Adam: You’re going up.
[1:01:01 – 1:01:10] Erik: So you’re spending on everything above that, but you would scrimp on a cheap camp pillow or off-brand wool socks.
[1:01:10 – 1:01:16] Erik: Yeah, I’ve kind of been there with the wool socks, but I tell you, you get yourself a fine pair of darn tufts.
[1:01:16 – 1:01:21] Erik: Those things last a while.
[1:01:21 – 1:01:23] Erik: Off-brand lemonade mix?
[1:01:24 – 1:01:28] Erik: I’ve never even been like, yeah, give me the… What do you got for really…
[1:01:29 – 1:01:55] Adam: lemonade mix old country primo oh my god uh you gotta get it at the co-op well let’s see who else we can offend here i’m sorry barbs bannock we’re just giving you a hard time about that just because the i think of the verbing of franzia even though i don’t fully understand it i think it’s all in the context it’s the inflection yeah we should start verbing more things yeah i’m so franzia
[1:01:56 – 1:01:57] Erik: You’re so Franzia right now.
[1:01:57 – 1:01:59] Adam: I’m Franzia on that comment, Barb.
[1:01:59 – 1:02:00] Adam: I’m very Franzia.
[1:02:03 – 1:02:06] Adam: Next up on the show, friend of the show, Jacob Backer.
[1:02:08 – 1:02:09] Adam: Got three boxes of wine.
[1:02:10 – 1:02:12] Adam: I’m real Franzia on this comment.
[1:02:12 – 1:02:12] Adam: I can tell.
[1:02:12 – 1:02:13] Adam: I haven’t even read it.
[1:02:14 – 1:02:15] Adam: Worth the money.
[1:02:15 – 1:02:17] Erik: And anything you… Jesus.
[1:02:18 – 1:02:18] Adam: Worth the money.
[1:02:19 – 1:02:21] Adam: Three, two, one.
[1:02:22 – 1:02:22] Adam: Worth the money.
[1:02:22 – 1:02:48] Adam: anything to help you cook drink your best and anything to help you sleep your best in my opinion if you’re well fed and well rested you’re going to be much more capable of taking on any challenges that you might encounter and fewer things will tire you or frustrate you during your trip also lightweight gear and good footwear makes a huge difference in the most challenging aspect of canoe tripping portaging not worth the money camp gadgets
[1:02:48 – 1:02:54] Adam: I’m a pretty firm believer that the market is flooded with cheaply made, low quality gadgets at every price point.
[1:02:55 – 1:02:58] Adam: A lot of them you can simply do without anyways.
[1:02:58 – 1:03:00] Adam: Also, a lot of expensive clothing.
[1:03:00 – 1:03:06] Adam: In my experience, Costco actually has some good inexpensive clothing that performs well enough for a spring, summer, fall trip.
[1:03:07 – 1:03:09] Adam: To be clear, I’m not talking about winter here.
[1:03:10 – 1:03:15] Adam: The important thing with clothing is to make sure you’re not wearing cotton because it will rub you raw and never dry.
[1:03:15 – 1:03:15] Erik: Yeah.
[1:03:17 – 1:03:45] Adam: wool is great of course but pricey you can find wool polyester blend socks on the cheap and they work very well polyester and nylon pants shirts jackets can be found cheap and dry quickly well army surplus and or savers and or salvation army any sure you can get your wool there oh there’s tons of wool at army surplus stores oh favorite piece of coglin’s gear nice cheap mosquito headnets
[1:03:45 – 1:03:46] Adam: Yes.
[1:03:46 – 1:03:50] Adam: Easy to stuff into a pocket for when you start to get frustrated.
[1:03:50 – 1:03:53] Adam: Don’t really even know it’s there.
[1:03:53 – 1:03:55] Adam: Might even lose some because of this.
[1:03:55 – 1:04:00] Adam: But at less than $5, it doesn’t really matter if you lose or destroy a couple.
[1:04:01 – 1:04:02] Adam: Ding, ding, ding.
[1:04:02 – 1:04:03] Adam: That’s what’s up with that thing.
[1:04:04 – 1:04:05] Adam: And that’s your Coglins.
[1:04:05 – 1:04:06] Adam: Fact of the week.
[1:04:07 – 1:04:10] Erik: I’m sure that head net is $3.99.
[1:04:10 – 1:04:13] Adam: $3.99 for those head nets.
[1:04:13 – 1:04:14] Adam: They’re pretty nice.
[1:04:14 – 1:04:16] Adam: Pretty classy.
[1:04:16 – 1:04:16] Erik: Yeah.
[1:04:16 – 1:04:22] Erik: I would say that the Coghlan’s head net is definitely what we send out at Clearwater and or sell.
[1:04:23 – 1:04:24] Erik: I mean, it’s a head net.
[1:04:25 – 1:04:25] Adam: Yeah.
[1:04:25 – 1:04:26] Adam: What more do you need?
[1:04:26 – 1:04:27] Adam: They’re going to rip anyways.
[1:04:27 – 1:04:29] Erik: You don’t need a Filson brand head net.
[1:04:29 – 1:04:29] Adam: No, they’re not.
[1:04:30 – 1:04:31] Adam: No.
[1:04:31 – 1:04:32] Adam: Be gentle.
[1:04:32 – 1:04:33] Erik: It’s all waxed.
[1:04:33 – 1:04:34] Adam: You ever been in a Costco?
[1:04:35 – 1:04:35] Erik: Of course.
[1:04:36 – 1:04:36] Adam: Wow, really?
[1:04:36 – 1:04:37] Adam: Yeah.
[1:04:37 – 1:04:37] Adam: Look at you.
[1:04:37 – 1:04:38] Adam: Look at this.
[1:04:38 – 1:04:39] Adam: Check this guy out over here.
[1:04:39 – 1:04:41] Adam: Costco boy.
[1:04:41 – 1:04:42] Erik: I got a Costco account.
[1:04:42 – 1:04:44] Adam: I didn’t know you’ve been to Tokyo.
[1:04:45 – 1:04:47] Erik: There’s a Costco in Maplewood, Minnesota.
[1:04:47 – 1:04:48] Erik: Is there?
[1:04:48 – 1:04:49] Adam: I don’t think so.
[1:04:49 – 1:04:51] Erik: There’s not one in Duluth, though.
[1:04:51 – 1:04:52] Adam: That is true.
[1:04:52 – 1:04:53] Adam: Not yet.
[1:04:53 – 1:04:55] Adam: I actually heard they’re building one.
[1:04:55 – 1:04:55] Erik: I’m sure.
[1:04:56 – 1:04:57] Adam: Holy moly.
[1:04:57 – 1:04:58] Adam: Hot dog.
[1:05:02 – 1:05:03] Adam: Square jaw 77.
[1:05:06 – 1:05:13] Erik: Most mind-blowing worthy expense for me has been the 4 liter platypus gravity filter.
[1:05:13 – 1:05:15] Erik: That’s two votes for gravity filter.
[1:05:16 – 1:05:20] Erik: Having come from the days of boiling, pills, and even pumping.
[1:05:20 – 1:05:21] Erik: Those iodine pills, God.
[1:05:22 – 1:05:27] Erik: This is the best piece of energy and time-saving equipment, and I will never go back to anything else.
[1:05:28 – 1:05:31] Erik: Best cheap buy is camp lights.
[1:05:31 – 1:05:35] Erik: I don’t go spendy, but they are all really a treat.
[1:05:37 – 1:05:42] Erik: I will echo the same about tents, canoes, saws, and shoes.
[1:05:42 – 1:05:45] Erik: All of them can be game changers or time sucks.
[1:05:49 – 1:05:52] Adam: Yeah, I mean, a lot of that’s just, like, how much you’re going to use this stuff.
[1:05:53 – 1:05:57] Adam: I was told with tools was, it was like, just buy a cheap hammer.
[1:05:57 – 1:05:58] Adam: Oh, sure.
[1:05:58 – 1:06:02] Adam: And then if you actually, like, wear a hammer out, then you know you need a better hammer.
[1:06:03 – 1:06:03] Adam: Start cheap.
[1:06:03 – 1:06:04] Adam: Which is one way to do it.
[1:06:05 – 1:06:24] Adam: yeah start cheap and then if you wear it out buy something better the next time yeah if you wear it out yeah if you lose it or whatever then you didn’t have time to properly evaluate but i don’t know that just kind of rings kind of wasteful to me too like if you if you feel like in your heart you’re gonna wear out that cheap hammer then why buy it in the first place yeah but there’s only one way to find out
[1:06:25 – 1:06:40] Erik: You could argue even that almost everything, unless you’re literally spending half the summer or half of the year, or not even half, a substantial amount of time camping.
[1:06:41 – 1:06:51] Erik: I had a shopping cart queued up for a bunch of cabana wear because I’m planning on going to Florida for two weeks this fall.
[1:06:51 – 1:06:55] Adam: I’m pretty sure you showed up wearing cabana wear to one of the shows for the tumble tourney already.
[1:06:56 – 1:06:58] Adam: So you’ve already purchased it then?
[1:06:58 – 1:07:04] Erik: No, I was like, do I need to spend this much money on clothes I’m going to wear for two weeks out of the year?
[1:07:04 – 1:07:05] Erik: This seems stupid.
[1:07:05 – 1:07:07] Adam: It’s like a ridiculous amount of suede.
[1:07:07 – 1:07:12] Erik: It seems like a ridiculous amount of stuff that I’m just going to have to end up storing like George Costanza’s dad.
[1:07:13 – 1:07:15] Erik: I just was like, whatever.
[1:07:15 – 1:07:21] Erik: I’ll just buy like a light flowy shirt when I’m down there.
[1:07:21 – 1:07:22] Erik: I got swim trunks.
[1:07:22 – 1:07:24] Adam: Did you not already get a cabana shirt?
[1:07:24 – 1:07:24] Erik: No.
[1:07:24 – 1:07:26] Erik: Did you show me a picture when you were looking at it?
[1:07:26 – 1:07:27] Adam: I just showed pictures of it.
[1:07:27 – 1:07:29] Adam: I swore you wore up wearing a cabana.
[1:07:29 – 1:07:32] Adam: You show up wearing a cabana shirt for like the sweet 16.
[1:07:32 – 1:07:32] UNKNOWN: No.
[1:07:33 – 1:07:33] Erik: No.
[1:07:33 – 1:07:33] Erik: What?
[1:07:34 – 1:07:34] Erik: No.
[1:07:34 – 1:07:34] Erik: It’s all on video.
[1:07:34 – 1:07:35] Erik: I have never seen it.
[1:07:35 – 1:07:36] Erik: It’s all on video.
[1:07:36 – 1:07:37] Adam: I think I’m pretty sure you were.
[1:07:38 – 1:07:39] Adam: It’s on video, Eric.
[1:07:39 – 1:07:39] Adam: Maybe I’m just lying.
[1:07:39 – 1:07:40] Adam: You can’t buy your way out of this one.
[1:07:41 – 1:07:46] Erik: But it is like, my point is like, really, unless, like, how often do people go on Boundary Water Strips?
[1:07:46 – 1:07:55] Erik: I mean, we live up here and we go maybe out of the whole year, we’re like spending nights camping two weeks out of 52 days.
[1:07:56 – 1:07:56] Erik: Maybe.
[1:07:57 – 1:07:57] Erik: Maybe.
[1:07:58 – 1:08:15] Erik: And you’re going to spend like $500 on an Arc’teryx like rain jacket or $1,000 on a like full like synthetic down like marmot sleeping bag.
[1:08:15 – 1:08:20] Erik: Like to a certain extent, yes, it is worth it to buy some of those things for comfort.
[1:08:20 – 1:08:26] Erik: But really the question should be like based on how often you’re using it, you can get by.
[1:08:27 – 1:08:50] Erik: the majority of the time spent in the year is just living your normal life and so like to go out of your way to spend money on camping gear is just kind of generally absurd as it is i think would you not agree like really the argument should be like go as cheap as possible on all of it
[1:08:51 – 1:08:53] Adam: Yeah, until it wears out, then buy a new hammer.
[1:08:53 – 1:08:55] Erik: Yeah.
[1:08:55 – 1:08:55] Adam: Sure.
[1:08:55 – 1:08:57] Erik: How often are you going to Boundary Waters camping?
[1:08:58 – 1:08:59] Adam: Not enough.
[1:08:59 – 1:09:00] Erik: Well, there’s that.
[1:09:00 – 1:09:03] Adam: Not enough to justify any of these purchases, honestly.
[1:09:03 – 1:09:05] Adam: Rent it from an outfitter.
[1:09:05 – 1:09:07] Adam: That’s the true message here.
[1:09:07 – 1:09:09] Adam: Hey, brought to you by Clearwater.
[1:09:10 – 1:09:13] Adam: Our two of the show is brought to you by Eric.
[1:09:13 – 1:09:16] Adam: He’s the premier outfitter on the trail.
[1:09:16 – 1:09:18] Erik: For dollars on pennies on the dollar.
[1:09:18 – 1:09:23] Adam: He’ll draw on your map and he’ll make funnier comments about egg crackers.
[1:09:24 – 1:09:24] Erik: I will.
[1:09:25 – 1:09:26] Adam: Where’d you get this crap?
[1:09:26 – 1:09:27] Adam: Get this off my porch.
[1:09:27 – 1:09:28] Erik: Get this crap.
[1:09:28 – 1:09:29] Erik: That’s what it’ll say.
[1:09:29 – 1:09:29] Adam: Yeah.
[1:09:29 – 1:09:30] Adam: Get out of here.
[1:09:30 – 1:09:40] Erik: No, I mean, all advertising aside, really, it almost does make much more sense to just rent from an outfitter.
[1:09:40 – 1:09:41] Erik: Like, even…
[1:09:42 – 1:09:48] Erik: There’s a very real potential and a very real possibility that I am not an outfitter at the end of this summer.
[1:09:48 – 1:09:50] Erik: I would have this same sentiment.
[1:09:51 – 1:09:56] Erik: Don’t spend money on a $500 sleeping bag if you’re going to sleep in it five days out of the year.
[1:09:56 – 1:09:57] Erik: Yeah, just get a new one from that.
[1:09:58 – 1:09:58] Adam: Lease it, baby.
[1:09:59 – 1:09:59] Erik: Just rent one.
[1:10:00 – 1:10:03] Adam: I would never lease a car, but I would lease a sleeping bag.
[1:10:03 – 1:10:04] Erik: Tent, same thing.
[1:10:05 – 1:10:06] Erik: For sure, canoe.
[1:10:07 – 1:10:16] Erik: People that buy brand new canoes to take them up on trips are either dentists, doctors, or sociopaths.
[1:10:16 – 1:10:20] Adam: No, they’re just planning for the, you know, they’re enthusiastic about the future.
[1:10:21 – 1:10:22] Adam: It’s a good investment.
[1:10:22 – 1:10:24] Adam: At least with a canoe, you can, you know.
[1:10:24 – 1:10:25] Erik: Do the math.
[1:10:25 – 1:10:25] Erik: You want to do the math?
[1:10:25 – 1:10:26] Adam: You could sell it off eventually.
[1:10:26 – 1:10:28] Erik: It’s never going to lose value.
[1:10:28 – 1:10:29] Erik: A two-person Kevlar canoe.
[1:10:30 – 1:10:31] Adam: Yeah.
[1:10:31 – 1:10:32] Erik: MSRP.
[1:10:32 – 1:10:33] Erik: Oh, I don’t even want to know.
[1:10:33 – 1:10:38] Erik: It’s like $2,700 from a name brand reputable company.
[1:10:39 – 1:10:40] Erik: And you can rent one.
[1:10:40 – 1:10:42] Erik: Like one Ethereum.
[1:10:42 – 1:10:45] Adam: Well, I bought in when it was two cent.
[1:10:46 – 1:10:52] Erik: You could rent a Kevlar canoe for $46 a day from basically every outfitter.
[1:10:53 – 1:10:53] Adam: No, I get what you’re saying.
[1:10:53 – 1:10:56] Adam: I’m just saying if you buy a canoe, it’s not going to lose value.
[1:10:56 – 1:10:57] Adam: It’s not like you’re buying a Ford.
[1:10:58 – 1:10:59] Erik: No, I get that, but like…
[1:11:00 – 1:11:00] Erik: Escape.
[1:11:00 – 1:11:02] Erik: Then there’s also the storage.
[1:11:02 – 1:11:06] Adam: Driving it through a bunch of potholes and then it lost all its value.
[1:11:06 – 1:11:11] Adam: I think, if anything, canoes, if well taken care of, don’t lose any value over time.
[1:11:11 – 1:11:18] Erik: I’m not saying that there was necessarily an inherent value, but like… We’ve got to do a whole different episode on the used canoe market.
[1:11:19 – 1:11:22] Erik: There is a whole conversation here that we’re kind of… New trading.
[1:11:23 – 1:11:24] Erik: …devolving into.
[1:11:24 – 1:11:25] Adam: We’re way off.
[1:11:25 – 1:11:26] Erik: But if you’re like…
[1:11:27 – 1:11:40] Erik: Even if you’re coming from the cities, to store that, to shuttle it for two, three trips a year, it’s kind of a crazy investment to get a full-blown, like, brand-new Kevlar canoe.
[1:11:40 – 1:11:40] Adam: I don’t know.
[1:11:41 – 1:11:42] Adam: I think it’s beautiful.
[1:11:43 – 1:11:44] Erik: Sure, it is beautiful.
[1:11:44 – 1:11:49] Erik: I’m not judging anybody that buys a new canoe, but I’m also saying…
[1:11:49 – 1:11:52] Adam: No, I can see the argument though for like, yeah, just rent one.
[1:11:52 – 1:11:55] Adam: You always have a new canoe and you don’t have to worry about it.
[1:11:55 – 1:11:56] Adam: Yeah.
[1:11:56 – 1:11:56] Erik: And transport it.
[1:11:57 – 1:12:05] Erik: The vast majority of canoe outfitters in the Boundary Waters are renting out basically like at the very latest, like three-year-old canoes.
[1:12:05 – 1:12:06] Erik: Most of them are brand new.
[1:12:07 – 1:12:08] Adam: Yeah, you’re getting them hot rods.
[1:12:10 – 1:12:12] Adam: Hashtag kielbasa.
[1:12:12 – 1:12:18] Erik: Well, this has just turned into an ad for outfitters.
[1:12:18 – 1:12:20] Erik: Go be in my pants for me wet.
[1:12:22 – 1:12:22] Erik: Wet?
[1:12:23 – 1:12:24] Erik: Oh, I jumped down to the second.
[1:12:24 – 1:12:24] Erik: Sorry.
[1:12:24 – 1:12:25] Erik: You really fronzie at that one.
[1:12:25 – 1:12:29] Erik: For me, footwear gets dollars thrown at it.
[1:12:29 – 1:12:32] Erik: In my case, a pair of OTB Abyss boots.
[1:12:33 – 1:12:34] Erik: I’m a wet footer.
[1:12:34 – 1:12:35] Erik: Hashtag wetfootnash.
[1:12:36 – 1:12:38] Erik: Hashtag wet feet equals clean hull.
[1:12:39 – 1:12:47] Erik: And having boots that drain and are comfortable with ankle support is a must for some of the bad portages while wearing the Kevlar hat.
[1:12:48 – 1:12:51] Erik: Sleep is also a throw money at it category.
[1:12:52 – 1:12:59] Erik: I don’t hammock sleep, so a top end mattress and good tent are worth it for me.
[1:13:00 – 1:13:01] Erik: Portage packs.
[1:13:01 – 1:13:03] Adam: Hashtag Kevlar hat.
[1:13:03 – 1:13:04] Erik: The Kevlar hats are back.
[1:13:05 – 1:13:10] Erik: I used to use the condos or granite gear Duluth style envelope packs.
[1:13:10 – 1:13:14] Erik: These carried a lot of gear but were not comfortable to portage in.
[1:13:14 – 1:13:20] Erik: Now I use the sea to summit boundary and or pro line bags and it’s a game changer.
[1:13:21 – 1:13:24] Erik: Your gear will not get wet.
[1:13:24 – 1:13:27] Erik: No more worrying about tearing a contractor bag.
[1:13:28 – 1:13:35] Erik: The shoulder and waist belts are comfortable and make portaging enjoyable instead of something that you dreaded.
[1:13:36 – 1:13:39] Erik: A double-walled coffee cup is in my future.
[1:13:40 – 1:13:41] Adam: Why are you too good for a trough?
[1:13:42 – 1:13:44] Erik: Too good for a trough.
[1:13:44 – 1:13:45] Adam: Go be in my pants.
[1:13:45 – 1:13:47] Adam: Are you getting cold in three and a half minutes?
[1:13:48 – 1:13:51] Erik: Yeah, I feel like I just poured this coffee into this trough.
[1:13:51 – 1:13:51] Adam: It’s cold.
[1:13:51 – 1:13:54] Adam: Basically, ambient air temperature.
[1:13:56 – 1:13:57] Adam: It would be nice to have a nice coffee mug.
[1:13:57 – 1:14:00] Erik: Things I won’t spend lots of money on.
[1:14:00 – 1:14:01] Erik: Camp dishes.
[1:14:02 – 1:14:03] Erik: Headlamps.
[1:14:03 – 1:14:07] Erik: I’ve had about 10 of them over the years and they all fail in some way or another.
[1:14:07 – 1:14:12] Erik: Again, I did not feel like I was going to be coming to the champion.
[1:14:13 – 1:14:19] Erik: I did not feel like I was going to be championing the Princeton Tech Apex Pro Lifetime Warranty Headlamp.
[1:14:19 – 1:14:23] Erik: Yes, it’s $200, but it’s the last $200 you will ever spend on a headlamp.
[1:14:26 – 1:14:26] Adam: Huzzah!
[1:14:26 – 1:14:27] Erik: Coffee.
[1:14:27 – 1:14:31] Erik: I can’t taste the difference between the spendy stuff and the cheapo.
[1:14:32 – 1:14:55] Erik: i can i can i can definitely taste the difference between good and bad coffee for me though i can’t taste the difference between really good wine and not necessarily really bad wine but like baseline wine i can taste bad wine but like once you get to like 15 bucks it’s like yeah
[1:14:56 – 1:14:56] Adam: It’s all the same.
[1:14:57 – 1:14:59] Erik: Things I spend money on anyways?
[1:15:00 – 1:15:03] Erik: Fishing gear, paddles, lightweight, quick-drying clothes.
[1:15:06 – 1:15:07] Adam: There’s another vote for paddles.
[1:15:10 – 1:15:11] Erik: Yeah, I…
[1:15:12 – 1:15:12] Erik: I mean…
[1:15:14 – 1:15:37] Erik: this somehow i think we’re gonna end up um getting ourselves into well we could have this be a one a one episode podcast we just won’t get as many of our thoughts and they’re kind of coming out like yeah as the comments come in but the fishing the fishing thing kind of hit on which one of my which was one of my like i don’t spend money on which is like rods and reels
[1:15:39 – 1:15:42] Erik: Well, yeah.
[1:15:42 – 1:15:56] Erik: Can anybody literally, unless you’re a pro fisherman, if you were blindfolded, would you be able to tell the difference between a $300 St. Croix rod and a gas station rod?
[1:15:56 – 1:15:57] Erik: Sure, I think you could.
[1:15:58 – 1:16:02] Erik: But is it going to help you catch more fish?
[1:16:03 – 1:16:05] Erik: You can maybe feel the difference.
[1:16:05 – 1:16:05] Erik: Maybe.
[1:16:05 – 1:16:08] Erik: But is it really going to make that much of a difference in your fishing success?
[1:16:08 – 1:16:10] Adam: I have a nice rod now, but it was a gift.
[1:16:10 – 1:16:11] Adam: And it’s sweet.
[1:16:11 – 1:16:12] Adam: I know.
[1:16:12 – 1:16:14] Adam: And I’m, like, worried all the time that I’m going to, like, break it.
[1:16:14 – 1:16:15] Erik: Well, there’s also that.
[1:16:15 – 1:16:17] Adam: It’s not going to be real careful.
[1:16:17 – 1:16:21] Adam: Normally, I agree, like, buy the cheapest rod and reel possible.
[1:16:21 – 1:16:24] Adam: But then here’s the secret, Eric.
[1:16:24 – 1:16:25] Adam: Chips.
[1:16:25 – 1:16:26] Adam: No, I’m just kidding.
[1:16:26 – 1:16:27] Adam: Spend money on the line.
[1:16:28 – 1:16:28] Erik: Yeah.
[1:16:29 – 1:16:44] Adam: The good line, like, so ideal setup here, I’ll just give you an idea, is $10 on the rod, $10 on the reel, just like a Shimano 1000, whatever crap $10 rod you can find, and then spend $30 on the nicest fishing line you can get.
[1:16:45 – 1:16:47] Adam: That would be the best way to go.
[1:16:47 – 1:16:47] Erik: Yeah.
[1:16:47 – 1:16:49] Erik: I mean, that’s typically how I break the rod.
[1:16:49 – 1:16:52] Adam: You can salvage the line and like reel to like the new rod.
[1:16:53 – 1:16:55] Adam: They’re going to get broke or like whatever.
[1:16:55 – 1:16:59] Adam: I’ve had people like I hear you take the rods and then they capsize and they’re on the lake.
[1:17:00 – 1:17:02] Adam: I’ve had that happen like more than once.
[1:17:04 – 1:17:08] Adam: Anyways, side tangent, but I agree, you know.
[1:17:10 – 1:17:12] Adam: But on the other hand, it’s sweet to have this nice rod now.
[1:17:13 – 1:17:15] Adam: So now I got to be real, you know, I got to be careful.
[1:17:16 – 1:17:19] Adam: Next up on the show, Lieutenant Shoppin’ Broccoli.
[1:17:20 – 1:17:21] Adam: Two box of wine.
[1:17:23 – 1:17:37] Adam: insulation is worth every penny I’m one of them sky sleepers so a quality top quilt under quilt is a must for me I’d also throw in a quality pair of wool socks in the insulation category doubling down on the insulation
[1:17:38 – 1:17:40] Adam: Dry bag sack.
[1:17:40 – 1:17:48] Adam: If I’m going to spend the money on insulation, then I have no problem justifying spending extra money on a dry bag I know will keep that insulation dry.
[1:17:49 – 1:17:52] Adam: Hashtag moist is not noice.
[1:17:52 – 1:17:53] Erik: Stop.
[1:17:53 – 1:17:54] Adam: Neither is the word.
[1:17:55 – 1:17:55] Adam: Sunglasses.
[1:17:56 – 1:18:06] Adam: Quality polarized sunglasses are critical for finding rocks while paddling, seeing all the fish I’m not catching, and for offsetting how uncool I look in my bucket hat.
[1:18:07 – 1:18:09] Adam: That’s a nice comment that deserves an extra upvote
[1:18:11 – 1:18:11] Erik: Yeah, I mean…
[1:18:11 – 1:18:13] Adam: It was well struck.
[1:18:13 – 1:18:19] Erik: I think we’ve suggested that sunglasses aren’t worth the spend just because inevitably they get lost or you will break them.
[1:18:20 – 1:18:29] Erik: But I can say… Lost and found a Clearwater pair of… Oh, what were those called?
[1:18:30 – 1:18:33] Erik: They’re like nice… Panama Jacks.
[1:18:33 – 1:18:36] Erik: They’re not Panama Jacks, but they’re like along those lines.
[1:18:36 – 1:18:37] Erik: Yeah, they were.
[1:18:37 – 1:18:45] Adam: One time I had a really nice pair of sunglasses, so I got those like the sunglasses holders so they could hang around my neck.
[1:18:45 – 1:18:50] Adam: And I had those for like two whole years before they broke.
[1:18:51 – 1:18:53] Adam: So that was a good run because those were sweet.
[1:18:55 – 1:18:56] Erik: I’m trying to think what they’re like.
[1:18:57 – 1:19:02] Erik: They’re essentially like made for like professional fishermen.
[1:19:02 – 1:19:07] Erik: Those are the ones that you made fun of me when I was wearing Northwoods Morpheus.
[1:19:07 – 1:19:08] Adam: Yeah.
[1:19:09 – 1:19:10] Adam: Those are the fancy ones?
[1:19:10 – 1:19:10] Adam: Yes.
[1:19:10 – 1:19:12] Adam: That wasn’t what I was picturing at all.
[1:19:12 – 1:19:41] Erik: no like in terms of like yeah in terms of quality of like how well the polarization works no way you can definitely tell a difference in like nice oh costas oh there were those costas they’re like for like uh key west’s like fishermen going out for snook are you yeah going out to the none of your business for snook yeah so yeah some like a random pair of costas got left behind at clearwater at one point and i just stole them because you’re a stealer
[1:19:41 – 1:19:51] Erik: Well, I mean, at the end of the year, if there’s… Have you ever seen the pile of lost and found gear at Clearwater at the end of the year?
[1:19:51 – 1:19:52] Erik: It’s a heap.
[1:19:53 – 1:19:53] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[1:19:54 – 1:19:56] Erik: And most of it is just fully abandoned.
[1:19:56 – 1:19:58] Adam: Nobody even asks.
[1:19:59 – 1:20:01] Adam: Those poor sunglasses, they’re so lonely.
[1:20:02 – 1:20:03] Erik: Life worth stealing.
[1:20:04 – 1:20:08] Erik: I love nice camping gear, and I’m always searching for great products.
[1:20:09 – 1:20:13] Erik: My big dough musts are…
[1:20:15 – 1:20:16] Adam: I like the term dough.
[1:20:17 – 1:20:18] Erik: Dough musts.
[1:20:18 – 1:20:21] Erik: It took me a second to be like, dough musts?
[1:20:21 – 1:20:23] Adam: It’s me rubbing my fingers together.
[1:20:23 – 1:20:25] Adam: Kind of gross sounding, but I get it.
[1:20:25 – 1:20:27] Adam: You don’t like the term dough for cash?
[1:20:27 – 1:20:28] Erik: I don’t.
[1:20:28 – 1:20:31] Erik: It’s the combination of the word dough and musts.
[1:20:31 – 1:20:59] Erik: dough just big old I can like smell it heap of dough is my favorite form of poetry that musty dough number one Kevlar canoe two Jacko’s footwear slash cheese tacos three the square cast aluminum pan from the BWCA journal that thing is just great at everything and is slightly lighter than an equivalent cast iron
[1:21:01 – 1:21:03] Erik: We should give one of those a whirl, honestly.
[1:21:03 – 1:21:04] Erik: They look like a lot of fun.
[1:21:04 – 1:21:05] Erik: Square.
[1:21:06 – 1:21:08] Erik: Four, CCS Rainfly.
[1:21:08 – 1:21:11] Erik: Yeah, this is the first time this has been mentioned.
[1:21:12 – 1:21:13] Erik: Life worth stealing.
[1:21:14 – 1:21:16] Erik: I have tried cheap versions, and they just do not compare.
[1:21:16 – 1:21:18] Erik: Agreed completely.
[1:21:18 – 1:21:22] Erik: CCS Rainflies, I mean, we’re not sponsored by them.
[1:21:22 – 1:21:24] Adam: This is not financial advice.
[1:21:24 – 1:21:39] Erik: damn hell we essentially are there’s no other rain fly that compares to dan and the the rain flies that he makes we are not sponsored by ccs uh we are sponsored for ccs yes we’re all on board
[1:21:40 – 1:21:40] Erik: Yeah.
[1:21:40 – 1:21:46] Erik: They’re, I mean, essentially the only thing that Clearwater sends out, it’s the only thing I go out with the way that they pack down.
[1:21:47 – 1:21:48] Erik: I’ve never had one.
[1:21:48 – 1:21:49] Erik: Beautiful green color.
[1:21:50 – 1:21:59] Erik: In any way, especially if you’re, if you’re taking advantage of the silicone stitching seam sealant that gets sent along with it.
[1:22:01 – 1:22:09] Erik: He also sends along a enough P cord to essentially tie up that rain fly for a lifetime.
[1:22:09 – 1:22:09] Erik: Yeah.
[1:22:09 – 1:22:17] Erik: So there’s one of the few brands that I am so loyal to that I don’t even consider anything else.
[1:22:18 – 1:22:19] Erik: Five, Silky Saw.
[1:22:20 – 1:22:23] Erik: I had no idea how much better these are than the Sven.
[1:22:24 – 1:22:25] Erik: Yeah.
[1:22:27 – 1:22:40] Adam: we might be moving towards Silky Boys going out the outfitting door this season a little bit more I got one oh my god they’re like chainsaws that don’t require gas your arms are the gas baby
[1:22:41 – 1:22:43] Erik: And it’s a lean gas.
[1:22:43 – 1:22:51] Erik: It’s like a RC, Philip Seymour Hoffman, huffing the gas from, what was that movie?
[1:22:52 – 1:22:54] Erik: Where his wife died and then he turned into a gas huffer.
[1:22:55 – 1:22:55] Erik: Sorry.
[1:22:56 – 1:22:56] Erik: Something Mona?
[1:22:58 – 1:22:59] Erik: Oh, I think it was something along those lines.
[1:23:00 – 1:23:02] Erik: It’s like one of his first leading roles.
[1:23:02 – 1:23:02] Erik: I love that movie.
[1:23:03 – 1:23:06] Erik: He just ends up in that pond where they’re racing the boats.
[1:23:07 – 1:23:09] Erik: They’re like, get out of there.
[1:23:09 – 1:23:11] Erik: You’re getting in the way of the race.
[1:23:11 – 1:23:12] Erik: Love, Liza.
[1:23:12 – 1:23:14] Erik: Love, Liza, not Moza.
[1:23:14 – 1:23:14] Erik: Oh, my God.
[1:23:14 – 1:23:16] Erik: If you haven’t seen Love, Liza, check it out.
[1:23:16 – 1:23:16] Erik: That’s it.
[1:23:16 – 1:23:18] Erik: And if you love Philip Seymour Hoffman, that’s a great movie.
[1:23:18 – 1:23:19] Adam: Yeah, that was a good one.
[1:23:19 – 1:23:19] Adam: We should do that.
[1:23:19 – 1:23:21] Adam: Dumb Home Cinema Classics.
[1:23:21 – 1:23:22] Adam: There’s a boat race at the end.
[1:23:22 – 1:23:23] Erik: I guess.
[1:23:23 – 1:23:24] Erik: There’s some water.
[1:23:24 – 1:23:25] Erik: There’s your loophole.
[1:23:25 – 1:23:26] Erik: Yeah, there’s some water.
[1:23:26 – 1:23:27] Erik: Cheap and dirty.
[1:23:28 – 1:23:28] Erik: One, hammocks.
[1:23:29 – 1:23:32] Erik: I order cheap bug screen hammocks and they last for years.
[1:23:32 – 1:23:36] Erik: Eno is the Yeti of skysleepers.
[1:23:36 – 1:23:37] Erik: I don’t know.
[1:23:38 – 1:23:52] Erik: I’ve been all on board with Life Worth Stealing’s take up to this point, but I feel like Eno is actually, if you really look at what’s available in terms of hammocks, eagles nests are pretty cheap.
[1:23:52 – 1:23:52] Adam: Are they?
[1:23:52 – 1:23:53] Adam: I don’t know.
[1:23:53 – 1:23:54] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[1:23:54 – 1:23:57] Adam: I’ve only paid $3.99 for mine.
[1:23:57 – 1:23:58] Adam: I’m a stealer.
[1:23:59 – 1:23:59] Erik: Yeah.
[1:24:00 – 1:24:04] Erik: I mean, we had the whole conversation last fall about ground sleepers and sky sleepers.
[1:24:04 – 1:24:07] Adam: I assume they’re expensive.
[1:24:07 – 1:24:11] Erik: I would say they’re in the mid-range, but they’re definitely not the Yetis.
[1:24:12 – 1:24:22] Erik: Those war bonnet setups, all of those are at least twice as much as an eagle’s nest, especially if you’re just going for the hammock itself.
[1:24:23 – 1:24:24] Erik: Yeah, I don’t know.
[1:24:24 – 1:24:26] Adam: Hammocks are my favorite thing to steal in the whole world.
[1:24:27 – 1:24:27] Erik: Yeah.
[1:24:27 – 1:24:29] Erik: Two LED inflatable lanterns.
[1:24:29 – 1:24:30] Erik: Cheap out on that.
[1:24:30 – 1:24:31] Erik: Yeah, sure.
[1:24:31 – 1:24:38] Erik: Solar-powered blow-up lanterns are super handy, cheap, waterproof, and provide hours of battery-free life.
[1:24:39 – 1:24:39] Erik: Three paddles.
[1:24:40 – 1:24:41] Erik: Hmm.
[1:24:41 – 1:24:42] Adam: There’s another one for paddle.
[1:24:42 – 1:24:42] Adam: You’re losing me.
[1:24:43 – 1:24:44] Erik: You’re losing me.
[1:24:44 – 1:24:45] Erik: Life worth stealing.
[1:24:45 – 1:24:46] Adam: There’s another boat for paddle.
[1:24:47 – 1:24:49] Erik: I mean, it’s up there with sleeping.
[1:24:50 – 1:24:53] Erik: On a Boundary Waters trip, how often are you spending…
[1:24:55 – 1:25:03] Erik: During your waking hours with something so attached to your body that is so important to how you move.
[1:25:04 – 1:25:05] Erik: I feel like a solid…
[1:25:08 – 1:25:12] Erik: lightweight, well-made paddle is worth the money.
[1:25:13 – 1:25:16] Erik: Cool paddles are amazing, but really just a luxury and a bit of bling.
[1:25:17 – 1:25:20] Erik: Paddle, get your hands on a good bench shaft lightweight paddle.
[1:25:21 – 1:25:22] Erik: I think it’ll change your mind.
[1:25:23 – 1:25:27] Erik: The aluminum with plastic paddles work really well and are very durable.
[1:25:28 – 1:25:30] Adam: Wait, oh, so this is a vote for cheap paddles.
[1:25:30 – 1:25:31] Erik: Yeah, he’s on cheap and dirty.
[1:25:32 – 1:25:33] Adam: I’m taking this check mark away.
[1:25:33 – 1:25:36] Erik: Yeah, no, the aluminum plastic paddles, they can…
[1:25:41 – 1:25:42] Erik: Send them on a day trip.
[1:25:42 – 1:25:43] Erik: That’s about all they’re worth.
[1:25:44 – 1:25:50] Erik: You like your hands getting all black at the end of the day with the aluminum.
[1:25:51 – 1:25:51] Erik: I don’t know.
[1:25:52 – 1:25:57] Adam: I just keep one by the door in case Kevin Bacon comes down the driveway and then I get out there and whack him with it.
[1:25:57 – 1:25:59] Erik: We should just call this episode Let’s Argue.
[1:25:59 – 1:26:02] Adam: I don’t like anything you’re saying.
[1:26:02 – 1:26:03] Adam: I don’t like anything anybody’s saying.
[1:26:03 – 1:26:05] Adam: Why are we so argumentative today?
[1:26:05 – 1:26:05] Erik: I don’t know.
[1:26:05 – 1:26:11] Erik: I feel like Life Force Stealing started out so strong with the what’s worth spending money on and then like just…
[1:26:12 – 1:26:13] Erik: I don’t know.
[1:26:13 – 1:26:15] Erik: I would never go cheap on any.
[1:26:15 – 1:26:17] Erik: I would never go cheap on a hammock.
[1:26:17 – 1:26:18] Erik: I would never go cheap on a panel.
[1:26:19 – 1:26:21] Erik: I guess LED inflatable lanterns.
[1:26:21 – 1:26:22] Adam: That’s why it’s a question of the week.
[1:26:22 – 1:26:23] Adam: These are opinions.
[1:26:23 – 1:26:24] Adam: Yes.
[1:26:25 – 1:26:26] Adam: Everybody’s got differing opinions.
[1:26:26 – 1:26:27] Adam: That’s the whole point of these episodes.
[1:26:28 – 1:26:28] Adam: It is.
[1:26:28 – 1:26:33] Adam: It’s like getting feisty about the Coglins thing again.
[1:26:34 – 1:26:34] Adam: That’s the whole point.
[1:26:35 – 1:26:36] Adam: Getting feisty.
[1:26:36 – 1:26:39] Adam: If we weren’t getting feisty, we wouldn’t be doing our jobs.
[1:26:39 – 1:26:41] Adam: Next up on the show, a Ruthen B.
[1:26:42 – 1:26:44] Adam: Two boxes of wine.
[1:26:44 – 1:26:45] Adam: Buy up four.
[1:26:46 – 1:26:47] Adam: One, a good PFD.
[1:26:48 – 1:26:50] Adam: Even Adam gave up on that kids version he was using.
[1:26:50 – 1:26:51] Adam: Stolequist.
[1:26:53 – 1:26:56] Adam: Two, a PLB or satellite messenger.
[1:26:56 – 1:27:00] Adam: In the event of emergency, the money spent will never be remembered.
[1:27:00 – 1:27:02] Adam: It could save your life or a friend’s.
[1:27:03 – 1:27:29] Adam: two not parts two not worth the money one a 2021 quetico permit the border is not opening anytime soon not worth the money and two betty’s pies not worth it definitely just roll down the window and cuss and send a cuss out shake a fist we got a coglin shout out youth bug jackets and headnets they work great are cheap and my kids love them
[1:27:29 – 1:27:32] Adam: So that’s a couple shout-outs for the Coglins nets.
[1:27:33 – 1:27:35] Adam: The Coglins, they make a fine net.
[1:27:35 – 1:27:38] Erik: Yeah, well, we send out the head nets at Clearwater.
[1:27:38 – 1:27:39] Erik: I’ve never had any issues with them.
[1:27:40 – 1:27:44] Adam: Yeah, I couldn’t say I have a head net stuffed in a few pockets here and there.
[1:27:44 – 1:27:47] Adam: I don’t know if any of them are Coglins, but they might be.
[1:27:49 – 1:27:51] Erik: Michael Deichel.
[1:27:52 – 1:27:54] Erik: Smoked bacon!
[1:27:55 – 1:27:56] Erik: Exclamation point.
[1:27:56 – 1:27:59] Erik: That’s how we start in this comment.
[1:28:00 – 1:28:05] Erik: It’s quite expensive, but I like to bring a slab of bacon that doesn’t need refrigeration.
[1:28:05 – 1:28:11] Erik: It’s quite a surprise to my campmates when I toss it into the food pack during pre-trip planning meeting.
[1:28:12 – 1:28:14] Erik: Camp slippers are the item I go thrifty with.
[1:28:15 – 1:28:18] Erik: I have been stalking and hunting leather…
[1:28:19 – 1:28:26] Erik: couches to make moccasins from their hide wow this is some next level thinking here
[1:28:29 – 1:28:31] Erik: Somebody’s couch out on the sidewalk.
[1:28:31 – 1:28:33] Adam: Stock of the couch.
[1:28:33 – 1:28:34] Adam: Yeah, camp slippers.
[1:28:34 – 1:28:36] Adam: That’s a beautiful specimen.
[1:28:36 – 1:28:39] Adam: All that cab.
[1:28:39 – 1:28:42] Adam: We’ll strike you, put the arrow in our catchy.
[1:28:42 – 1:28:46] Erik: Why would you ever go hard on camp slippers?
[1:28:47 – 1:28:49] Adam: Go with the Cogman’s Camp Mac.
[1:28:49 – 1:28:50] Adam: I thought we already covered this.
[1:28:50 – 1:28:51] Adam: The Cog Mac.
[1:28:51 – 1:28:51] Adam: The Cog Mac.
[1:28:51 – 1:28:52] Adam: We’re going Cog Macs.
[1:28:54 – 1:28:55] Erik: Yeah, be thrifty.
[1:28:55 – 1:28:58] Erik: Yeah, you’re walking around in the dirt and the water.
[1:28:58 – 1:29:00] Erik: $3.99 MSRP, I believe.
[1:29:01 – 1:29:06] Erik: Going thrifty on the camp mox.
[1:29:06 – 1:29:07] Erik: I like that.
[1:29:07 – 1:29:08] Erik: Smoked bacon.
[1:29:10 – 1:29:10] Erik: Yeah.
[1:29:12 – 1:29:15] Adam: I just pictured them stuffing Kevin Bacon in their food pack.
[1:29:16 – 1:29:16] Adam: No shirt.
[1:29:17 – 1:29:18] Erik: Smoked bacon.
[1:29:18 – 1:29:19] Adam: The hair is teased.
[1:29:20 – 1:29:22] Erik: E-Electric Ewok.
[1:29:24 – 1:29:25] Erik: I believe.
[1:29:25 – 1:29:27] Erik: First comment on the show.
[1:29:27 – 1:29:29] Adam: Welcome to the show, Ewok.
[1:29:29 – 1:29:30] Erik: Welcome to the show.
[1:29:30 – 1:29:35] Erik: I’m young and poor, so bare minimum cost is a priority.
[1:29:35 – 1:29:46] Erik: That being said, I had a well-made, homemade paddle last year, and it was quite the step up from the expandable aluminum one I used and broke in the past.
[1:29:46 – 1:29:48] Adam: All right, so we’re getting that checkmark back on paddle now.
[1:29:51 – 1:29:55] Erik: Also, Everclear and Crystal Light packets are the essential drink options.
[1:29:55 – 1:29:58] Adam: Are you going for the spendy Crystal Light or the cheap Crystal Light?
[1:29:58 – 1:30:02] Erik: Are you going for the spendy Everclear or the… Nah, dude.
[1:30:02 – 1:30:04] Adam: Homemade Everclear.
[1:30:04 – 1:30:05] Adam: Yeah.
[1:30:05 – 1:30:06] Adam: Stir it with your homemade paddle.
[1:30:07 – 1:30:08] Adam: Free.
[1:30:08 – 1:30:10] Adam: I think we got to give an extra upvote to that comment.
[1:30:10 – 1:30:31] Adam: guy’s a real bang for his buck wow what a debut yeah what was the username electric eel electronic ewok electronic ewok yeah what a debut this uh might be going that might be going up for a nomination of the tumblies the the fabled tumblies fantasy show that will never happen
[1:30:33 – 1:30:33] Erik: Oh, nice.
[1:30:33 – 1:30:35] Adam: Step on the assembly’s debut of the year.
[1:30:36 – 1:30:42] Erik: This was going to be my… Yeah, I feel like I’m glad we went with comments to begin with because all of the things I was going to say have come up.
[1:30:42 – 1:30:49] Erik: And again, I believe a first-time commenter here from JohnnyJumpUp85.
[1:30:50 – 1:30:50] Adam: What?
[1:30:50 – 1:30:54] Erik: My favorite coggy gear does come up.
[1:30:54 – 1:30:55] Erik: I’ll let you read the full…
[1:30:56 – 1:30:59] Adam: Welcome to the show, JohnnyJumpUp85.
[1:31:00 – 1:31:01] Adam: One box of wine.
[1:31:02 – 1:31:02] Adam: Spend.
[1:31:03 – 1:31:04] Adam: A good sleeping bag.
[1:31:04 – 1:31:05] Adam: A good rain suit.
[1:31:06 – 1:31:08] Adam: A quality but not ultra expensive shelter.
[1:31:09 – 1:31:10] Adam: Matches.
[1:31:10 – 1:31:13] Adam: A lighter, aka the stuff that’s going to keep me alive.
[1:31:14 – 1:31:15] Adam: Middle.
[1:31:15 – 1:31:19] Adam: A Sawyer mini filter on an old camelback bladder.
[1:31:19 – 1:31:20] Adam: Does the same thing.
[1:31:20 – 1:31:23] Adam: Is a lot cheaper than some gravity filters I’ve seen.
[1:31:24 – 1:31:25] Adam: Next, quality footwear.
[1:31:26 – 1:31:26] Adam: All right?
[1:31:27 – 1:31:28] Adam: Not worth it.
[1:31:29 – 1:31:30] Adam: Name brand hammocks.
[1:31:30 – 1:31:31] Adam: Just look at how it’s built.
[1:31:32 – 1:31:37] Adam: I have a $25 Amazon hammock that’s better built than my $150 name brand hammock.
[1:31:38 – 1:31:38] Adam: Whoa.
[1:31:39 – 1:31:39] Adam: Tarps.
[1:31:39 – 1:31:41] Adam: Just buy a cheap one every year.
[1:31:43 – 1:31:44] Erik: Well, that’s the thing.
[1:31:44 – 1:31:47] Erik: Like, yeah, buy a cheap one every year or buy a nice one.
[1:31:47 – 1:31:48] Erik: Well, that’s the question.
[1:31:48 – 1:31:49] Erik: For life.
[1:31:49 – 1:31:52] Adam: Favorite coggy gear is their fire paste.
[1:31:52 – 1:31:53] Adam: Yes.
[1:31:53 – 1:31:55] Adam: That shit will burn up top of water.
[1:31:55 – 1:31:56] Erik: Exactly.
[1:31:57 – 1:31:58] Erik: That was going to be my go-to Coglins.
[1:31:58 – 1:32:00] Erik: Their fire paste is crazy.
[1:32:00 – 1:32:02] Erik: It almost seems like it should be illegal.
[1:32:02 – 1:32:04] Adam: I don’t know what it is.
[1:32:05 – 1:32:07] Erik: But it will literally…
[1:32:08 – 1:32:11] Erik: I’m surprised it doesn’t just start on fire.
[1:32:12 – 1:32:12] Erik: Yeah.
[1:32:12 – 1:32:13] Erik: As soon as it touches oxygen.
[1:32:13 – 1:32:15] Adam: It will burn on top of water.
[1:32:15 – 1:32:15] Erik: It will.
[1:32:16 – 1:32:16] Adam: All right.
[1:32:16 – 1:32:16] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[1:32:17 – 1:32:18] Adam: I’ve never tried the Kagi fire paste.
[1:32:19 – 1:32:21] Erik: It’s almost excessive, like just a little bit of…
[1:32:21 – 1:32:23] Adam: It’s really a value at only $2.99.
[1:32:24 – 1:32:24] Adam: $2.99.
[1:32:24 – 1:32:27] Adam: That stuff’s cheap at $2.99.
[1:32:27 – 1:32:27] Adam: Wow.
[1:32:28 – 1:32:29] Adam: It’s great value.
[1:32:29 – 1:32:29] Adam: Okay.
[1:32:29 – 1:32:30] Erik: Okay.
[1:32:30 – 1:32:31] Erik: Okay.
[1:32:32 – 1:32:32] Adam: Alrighty.
[1:32:32 – 1:32:33] Adam: Wow.
[1:32:33 – 1:32:35] Adam: Well, that was also a great debut.
[1:32:35 – 1:32:39] Adam: We got a couple stunning debuts here on episode 0141.
[1:32:40 – 1:32:42] Erik: Still moving on.
[1:32:42 – 1:32:42] Erik: Eagle.
[1:32:43 – 1:32:44] Erik: 98MN.
[1:32:45 – 1:32:53] Erik: I have no regrets about my CCS tarp purchase after tearing through grommets on a windy and rainy fall weekend a few years ago.
[1:32:55 – 1:33:01] Erik: Dan Cook knows how to sew, and his tarp has kept me dry and covered in heavy winds since I bought it.
[1:33:02 – 1:33:04] Erik: I also completely agree with gravity filters.
[1:33:04 – 1:33:06] Erik: I have the MSR AutoFlow.
[1:33:07 – 1:33:13] Erik: Any device that literally removes a camp chore is worth the cash, in my opinion.
[1:33:14 – 1:33:15] Erik: Cheap stuff I use.
[1:33:15 – 1:33:18] Erik: I use a contractor bag to line my portage pack.
[1:33:19 – 1:33:22] Erik: My mallet is Coghlan’s brand and perfect for pounding tent stakes.
[1:33:23 – 1:33:25] Erik: Zip fire starters.
[1:33:27 – 1:33:28] Erik: I’m going to click on the link.
[1:33:29 – 1:33:30] Adam: Oh, boy.
[1:33:30 – 1:33:31] Erik: Oh, yep.
[1:33:31 – 1:33:39] Erik: They are basically just your like fat wood, like greasy stick, fiery little like wood.
[1:33:40 – 1:33:44] Erik: Like they claim that it’s natural, but clearly they’re like dipped in an oil.
[1:33:44 – 1:33:46] Erik: But they do start a fire.
[1:33:48 – 1:33:51] Erik: They’re cheap and the wrapper is lit, so you have no trash whatsoever.
[1:33:52 – 1:33:53] Adam: Do you go with a coggy mallet?
[1:33:54 – 1:33:54] Adam: Coggy mallet.
[1:33:54 – 1:33:58] Adam: Am I just going ahead now and always calling Coglin stuff coggy?
[1:33:58 – 1:33:59] Adam: I don’t know.
[1:33:59 – 1:34:00] Adam: So catchy.
[1:34:00 – 1:34:01] Erik: It is kind of catchy.
[1:34:01 – 1:34:02] Erik: Just grab a rock, though.
[1:34:03 – 1:34:03] Erik: Yeah.
[1:34:04 – 1:34:10] Erik: I mean, if you’re bringing a hatchet or an axe, the designated mallet.
[1:34:10 – 1:34:12] Adam: There’s always a rock laying right by the tent pad.
[1:34:13 – 1:34:19] Adam: It can be used for malleting or for reassuring a…
[1:34:20 – 1:34:21] Adam: A flimsy steak.
[1:34:22 – 1:34:25] Erik: Well, yeah, whatever you do, just don’t stomp on it.
[1:34:26 – 1:34:26] Adam: Don’t do that.
[1:34:27 – 1:34:32] Erik: Yeah, it’ll come up through the boot and you’ll be crawling through the woods in pain.
[1:34:35 – 1:34:39] Erik: Northbound and down worth every penny.
[1:34:44 – 1:34:46] Erik: All Fall Raven products.
[1:34:47 – 1:34:49] Erik: Parentheses pronounced with an umpty.
[1:34:50 – 1:34:51] Erik: I don’t know what that means.
[1:34:53 – 1:34:55] Erik: Fjallraven?
[1:34:55 – 1:34:57] Adam: There, you gotta hear the music in it.
[1:34:58 – 1:34:58] Erik: PDF?
[1:34:59 – 1:34:59] Erik: PDF.
[1:35:02 – 1:35:06] Erik: Yeah, you really got to spend that money on that Adobe PDF software.
[1:35:07 – 1:35:08] Erik: I’m assuming it’s supposed to be PFT.
[1:35:10 – 1:35:11] Adam: Can it convert PDFs though?
[1:35:12 – 1:35:13] Erik: That’s what we need.
[1:35:13 – 1:35:17] Erik: High quality whiskey, coffee, and toilet paper.
[1:35:17 – 1:35:19] Erik: This list is exhaustive.
[1:35:20 – 1:35:23] Erik: Favorite Coglins product, snake bite kit.
[1:35:24 – 1:35:24] Adam: All right.
[1:35:24 – 1:35:25] Adam: Somebody did it.
[1:35:25 – 1:35:26] Adam: Somebody went ahead with it.
[1:35:26 – 1:35:27] Adam: There it is.
[1:35:27 – 1:35:34] Adam: I was just saying, I don’t know if I would actually try and use the snake bite kit, even if I had it with me and was bit by a snake.
[1:35:34 – 1:35:36] Erik: No, I would not take my chances.
[1:35:36 – 1:35:38] Adam: But it’s fun to have on the wall.
[1:35:39 – 1:35:40] Adam: I don’t know if I would actually try and use it.
[1:35:41 – 1:35:43] Adam: Cinch it and then suck.
[1:35:46 – 1:35:48] Adam: That was the original name for it.
[1:35:48 – 1:35:50] Adam: Then they’re like, no, it’s a little too graphic.
[1:35:50 – 1:35:52] Adam: We’re going to go with snake bite kit.
[1:35:52 – 1:35:56] Adam: It sounds a little more family friendly when we’re talking about being bit by snakes.
[1:35:57 – 1:36:01] Erik: I feel like we’ve got a number of first time comments coming down the pipe here.
[1:36:02 – 1:36:03] Erik: Very exciting.
[1:36:03 – 1:36:03] Adam: Welcome to the show.
[1:36:04 – 1:36:06] Adam: Two boxes of wine.
[1:36:07 – 1:36:09] Adam: One box of wine only.
[1:36:09 – 1:36:12] Adam: But we’re going to go ahead and give an extra upvote.
[1:36:13 – 1:36:13] Adam: How the hell?
[1:36:14 – 1:36:14] Adam: Who let this happen?
[1:36:15 – 1:36:20] Adam: The username is two boxes of wine, and they only had one box of wine vote.
[1:36:21 – 1:36:21] Adam: Come on.
[1:36:21 – 1:36:22] Adam: Well, now they got two.
[1:36:23 – 1:36:24] Adam: Welcome to the show.
[1:36:24 – 1:36:26] Adam: A good paddle is almost always worth it.
[1:36:27 – 1:36:33] Adam: Some upper-priced paddles get pretty expensive and maybe a little overkill for a once- or twice-a-year tripper.
[1:36:33 – 1:36:47] Adam: However, paddling even for a day with those slightly sawed-on 2x4s that some companies pass off as paddles is to a share and shall be reserved for those emergency years where you’re trying to convince someone that canoeing is terrible.
[1:36:47 – 1:36:54] Adam: I would also start you away from the great Grandpa Bill’s paddle that has been in the boathouse for 60 years.
[1:36:54 – 1:37:00] Adam: Splurge a little on a paddle and you will be more excited to canoe your hands and shoulders.
[1:37:00 – 1:37:01] Adam: Thank you.
[1:37:01 – 1:37:01] Adam: The end.
[1:37:03 – 1:37:04] Erik: What a great comment.
[1:37:04 – 1:37:06] Adam: Definitely deserved the second upvote of box of wine.
[1:37:06 – 1:37:08] Adam: So thank you for your comments.
[1:37:08 – 1:37:11] Adam: Box two boxes of wine and appreciate it.
[1:37:11 – 1:37:12] Adam: Shout out to you.
[1:37:13 – 1:37:14] Adam: Yeah, I agree with that too.
[1:37:14 – 1:37:15] Adam: And that’s another vote for paddle.
[1:37:16 – 1:37:18] Erik: That’s quite a few votes for nice paddle here.
[1:37:20 – 1:37:22] Adam: Got a couple running away with it at this point.
[1:37:23 – 1:37:28] Adam: We’ll recap the voting at the end of the comments at the end of the 20th episode.
[1:37:29 – 1:37:29] Erik: Okay.
[1:37:29 – 1:37:30] Adam: Stay tuned.
[1:37:30 – 1:37:33] Erik: Another one from… Recount 2021.
[1:37:33 – 1:37:38] Erik: Oh, there was a hashtag earlier on.
[1:37:39 – 1:37:42] Erik: Tourney recount moose win.
[1:37:42 – 1:37:43] Adam: Whatever.
[1:37:43 – 1:37:44] Adam: Get out of here.
[1:37:44 – 1:37:46] Adam: Get out of here.
[1:37:46 – 1:37:47] Adam: You rebel scum.
[1:37:48 – 1:37:48] Erik: Cabin after.
[1:37:48 – 1:37:49] Erik: What?
[1:37:49 – 1:37:56] Erik: now we’re calling people that was a joke alright get over it we weren’t referencing who said it you know who you are though
[1:38:00 – 1:38:03] Erik: actively trying to purge listeners on this episode.
[1:38:04 – 1:38:06] Erik: We pull you all in.
[1:38:06 – 1:38:08] Adam: I don’t want any insurrectionists.
[1:38:08 – 1:38:08] Adam: Soft.
[1:38:08 – 1:38:10] Adam: Listening to the tumble tournament, right?
[1:38:11 – 1:38:11] Erik: Come here, buddy.
[1:38:11 – 1:38:12] Adam: Hey, bud.
[1:38:12 – 1:38:12] Erik: Hey, buddy.
[1:38:12 – 1:38:13] Erik: Come here.
[1:38:13 – 1:38:14] Erik: Tumble tourney.
[1:38:14 – 1:38:15] Adam: Episode 014.
[1:38:15 – 1:38:17] Adam: Tumble tourney’s so fun.
[1:38:17 – 1:38:18] Erik: We love you all.
[1:38:18 – 1:38:19] Erik: You’re all so much fun.
[1:38:20 – 1:38:20] Erik: Episode 141.
[1:38:22 – 1:38:44] Erik: claws back out you idiots you’re all dumb wow no we all love you cabin after worth the money shoes i was a kid sorry i was a kid wait it is what it says when i was a kid my family went on a trip and my parents forgot to pack my sister’s sandals
[1:38:45 – 1:38:48] Erik: They bought some knockoff Tevas from an Ely outfitter.
[1:38:48 – 1:38:53] Erik: On the first portage, my sister stepped in mud and the entire sole came right off.
[1:38:54 – 1:38:54] Erik: Yeah.
[1:38:55 – 1:38:59] Erik: I’m continuously amazed by how well Chacos hold up to the abuse of portaging.
[1:39:00 – 1:39:02] Erik: Gotta have the toe strap.
[1:39:02 – 1:39:05] Erik: Oh, you had me up until toe strap.
[1:39:06 – 1:39:08] Erik: I’m anti-toe strap.
[1:39:09 – 1:39:10] Erik: Of course I am.
[1:39:10 – 1:39:10] Adam: Of course you are.
[1:39:11 – 1:39:12] Erik: Not worth it.
[1:39:13 – 1:39:18] Erik: I think millennials as a group spend way too much money on outdoor specialty clothing.
[1:39:20 – 1:39:27] Erik: Well, that’s a fair point that could maybe be hashed out in some kind of a public forum.
[1:39:28 – 1:39:30] Adam: I like watching what the tourists are wearing in town.
[1:39:31 – 1:39:32] Erik: Yeah.
[1:39:32 – 1:39:32] Erik: It’s fun to see.
[1:39:33 – 1:39:40] Erik: It is funny to kind of see the tactical outdoor gear pants.
[1:39:40 – 1:39:43] Adam: Not even a speck of mud on those trousers.
[1:39:43 – 1:39:46] Erik: Somebody’s waiting in line for donuts at World’s Best Donuts.
[1:39:46 – 1:39:46] Erik: Man.
[1:39:50 – 1:39:50] Erik: Looking good.
[1:39:51 – 1:39:53] Adam: Hey, you’re looking good.
[1:39:54 – 1:40:09] Erik: I do agree that as a group, not just necessarily millennials, but there’s a large contingent of people that spend way too much money on stuff that’s going to, if you’re using it for what it is, quote unquote, supposed to be meant for.
[1:40:09 – 1:40:25] Erik: for it’s gonna get dirty it’s gonna get messed up I’m like there’s not a pair of like camping pants that I have purchased that have not within a few months just been fully like blown out by like chainsawing and or uh
[1:40:26 – 1:40:27] Erik: sitting next to a campfire.
[1:40:27 – 1:40:29] Erik: They get like sprayed with sap.
[1:40:29 – 1:40:31] Erik: They’ve got a bunch of burn marks on them.
[1:40:31 – 1:40:36] Adam: People like crispy brand new gear strutting through town.
[1:40:36 – 1:40:38] Adam: It hasn’t, you know, it hasn’t seen a portage yet.
[1:40:38 – 1:40:39] Adam: That’s what I’m picturing here.
[1:40:40 – 1:40:41] Adam: And that knows no age.
[1:40:41 – 1:40:47] Adam: There’s all sorts of, all sorts of people wearing that stuff in town, but you know, you gotta have new gear sometime.
[1:40:48 – 1:40:49] Adam: Can’t all be perfectly broken in.
[1:40:50 – 1:40:52] Erik: But at the same time, yes, it does feel good.
[1:40:52 – 1:40:59] Erik: There’s a part of me that does feel happy about like a nice new fancy shiny pair of gear.
[1:41:00 – 1:41:00] Erik: Feeling fancy.
[1:41:00 – 1:41:01] Erik: Pair of gears.
[1:41:03 – 1:41:03] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[1:41:03 – 1:41:04] Adam: Yeah.
[1:41:04 – 1:41:07] Adam: I buy at least like one new piece of gear every season.
[1:41:08 – 1:41:10] Adam: Treat yourself, Eric.
[1:41:11 – 1:41:12] Erik: Hot dish.
[1:41:12 – 1:41:14] Erik: And that’s an O as a zero.
[1:41:15 – 1:41:15] Erik: Worth it?
[1:41:15 – 1:41:16] Erik: My hammock.
[1:41:17 – 1:41:21] Erik: junk gear, learn from it, and how to live without it when it fails.
[1:41:22 – 1:41:24] Erik: Coghlan’s gear, aluminum tent stakes.
[1:41:27 – 1:41:28] Erik: Nice and succinct.
[1:41:29 – 1:41:30] Erik: The last comment.
[1:41:30 – 1:41:32] Adam: The aluminum tent stakes?
[1:41:32 – 1:41:34] Erik: Aluminum tent stakes from Coggy.
[1:41:35 – 1:41:37] Adam: Those are $3.99 for sure.
[1:41:37 – 1:41:38] Adam: Those are pretty nice.
[1:41:38 – 1:41:38] Erik: Yep.
[1:41:39 – 1:41:41] Erik: Alright, you can read the last one here.
[1:41:41 – 1:41:43] Erik: This is from, again, I believe?
[1:41:43 – 1:41:44] Erik: I could be wrong.
[1:41:44 – 1:41:44] Erik: The Red Lantern.
[1:41:45 – 1:41:46] Erik: The Red Lantern from…
[1:41:48 – 1:41:49] Adam: Red spoon.
[1:41:49 – 1:41:49] Adam: Nice.
[1:41:50 – 1:41:52] Adam: Two boxes of wine.
[1:41:53 – 1:41:54] Adam: Welcome to the show.
[1:41:55 – 1:41:59] Adam: Hey, so happy this made question of the week.
[1:41:59 – 1:41:59] Adam: Welcome.
[1:41:59 – 1:42:01] Adam: You’re welcome.
[1:42:01 – 1:42:02] Adam: You’re here.
[1:42:02 – 1:42:03] Adam: You made it.
[1:42:04 – 1:42:05] Adam: Now you really have arrived.
[1:42:08 – 1:42:10] Adam: For me, worth it.
[1:42:10 – 1:42:12] Adam: I agree with a lot of what has already been said.
[1:42:12 – 1:42:16] Adam: I would also add bags, packs, stuff sacks, containers.
[1:42:17 – 1:42:23] Adam: Not any one item or brand, but worth spending money to get a whole set that works well together for how you travel.
[1:42:24 – 1:42:29] Adam: I find I’m constantly organizing or thinking about how to pack better, get at things easier…
[1:42:29 – 1:42:36] Adam: Worth it to buy all the barrel bags and packing cubes, etc., that make packing and breaking camp smooth and organized.
[1:42:37 – 1:42:38] Adam: Not worth the extra money.
[1:42:38 – 1:42:38] Adam: New things.
[1:42:39 – 1:42:44] Adam: Gently used gear works great if you can find the specific item you need.
[1:42:45 – 1:42:46] Adam: Name brand clothing.
[1:42:46 – 1:42:51] Adam: I’ve found great camp clothes at Costco for fractions of the cost of outdoor stores.
[1:42:52 – 1:42:55] Adam: Also, I guess luxury items that push the group into double portaging.
[1:42:56 – 1:42:56] Adam: Ooh, yeah.
[1:42:57 – 1:42:58] Adam: I’m a single portage man.
[1:42:58 – 1:43:03] Adam: Not worth it to spend big on a Helinox camp table if I have to double my portage time.
[1:43:04 – 1:43:10] Adam: As far as Coglins goes, I think their metal tent peg works just as well as the ultralight fancy versions.
[1:43:11 – 1:43:12] Adam: Thanks, everyone.
[1:43:12 – 1:43:14] Adam: Cool to see these responses.
[1:43:16 – 1:43:17] Adam: What’s going on here?
[1:43:17 – 1:43:18] Adam: Looks like it continued.
[1:43:19 – 1:43:20] Adam: It just ends with not worth the extra.
[1:43:21 – 1:43:23] Adam: Not worth the extra.
[1:43:23 – 1:43:25] Adam: That’s the new salutation the kids are using.
[1:43:27 – 1:43:29] Adam: I’m out.
[1:43:29 – 1:43:32] Adam: I think that’s a salutation of some sort.
[1:43:33 – 1:43:35] Adam: Thank you for your comment and welcome to Tumble Home.
[1:43:36 – 1:43:37] Erik: Yeah, thank you.
[1:43:37 – 1:43:41] Adam: I didn’t know that the username was Red Spoon when I was talking about that.
[1:43:41 – 1:43:45] Adam: It was just fortuitous timing.
[1:43:46 – 1:43:47] Erik: Fortuitous.
[1:43:47 – 1:43:49] Erik: Yeah, thanks everybody for the responses.
[1:43:50 – 1:43:56] Adam: Yeah, that’s two in a row for Coglin’s metal stakes or camp pegs, I think it was called.
[1:43:56 – 1:43:56] Erik: Sure.
[1:43:57 – 1:43:58] Erik: Yeah, I mean, that makes sense.
[1:43:58 – 1:44:00] Adam: Mostly people were going with the Coggies.
[1:44:00 – 1:44:04] Adam: They were going with the head net or the pegs.
[1:44:05 – 1:44:07] Erik: My vote would be head net and or fire paste.
[1:44:07 – 1:44:36] Erik: and the fire paste yeah the fire paste it’s kind of ridiculous though it’s a little over the top I mean it’s kind of nice to have in like a deluge situation or even sometimes birch bark is like doesn’t even work but like yeah if it’s pouring rain and you really want to try to get a fire started yeah you have a little tube of that disgusting who knows where it came from scraped from the bottom of a Austin Texas defunct oil tanker
[1:44:38 – 1:44:57] Erik: that’s where they get those yeah and now it’s all of a sudden in your pocket in the boundary waters yeah yeah it’s yeah it might burn with black as night smoke but it’ll burn it’s definitely not opening a portal to another dimension or anything no that’s not happening i’m sure it’s not searing holes in your lungs either if you breathe that smoke in but it will start a fire
[1:44:58 – 1:45:02] Adam: I did a top three Coggies gear that I need.
[1:45:02 – 1:45:03] Erik: You need.
[1:45:03 – 1:45:05] Adam: And I have an honorable mention in there too.
[1:45:05 – 1:45:06] Adam: So actually I have a top four.
[1:45:07 – 1:45:07] Erik: Wow.
[1:45:07 – 1:45:08] Erik: Are you ready for this?
[1:45:08 – 1:45:08] Erik: Yeah, I am.
[1:45:08 – 1:45:10] Adam: You want me to just count them all the way down for you?
[1:45:11 – 1:45:14] Erik: Sure, I’ll add some countdown music in the background.
[1:45:14 – 1:45:19] Adam: Here’s the honorable mention in my dream Coglins gear that I don’t have.
[1:45:19 – 1:45:20] Adam: It’s a little spendy.
[1:45:21 – 1:45:21] Adam: You ready for this?
[1:45:22 – 1:45:22] Erik: It’s $599.
[1:45:22 – 1:45:23] Adam: Does anybody have it out there?
[1:45:23 – 1:45:27] Adam: It’s the paracord bracelet from Coglins.
[1:45:27 – 1:45:30] Adam: I had a paracord bracelet, but it wasn’t a Coglins.
[1:45:30 – 1:45:33] Adam: I mean, this was real crap.
[1:45:33 – 1:45:36] Adam: The paracord bracelet retails at $599.
[1:45:36 – 1:45:37] Adam: Oh, I guessed it.
[1:45:37 – 1:45:37] Erik: I nailed it.
[1:45:37 – 1:45:38] Erik: Holy moly.
[1:45:38 – 1:45:40] Adam: It’s like platinum paracord.
[1:45:41 – 1:45:47] Erik: I always love the, not just the Coghlan’s brand, but just that idea in general where it’s like, it’s a survival bracelet.
[1:45:47 – 1:45:48] Adam: Like, what are you going to do?
[1:45:48 – 1:45:49] Adam: So, okay.
[1:45:49 – 1:45:53] Adam: And I need some P-cord to unravel this bracelet I’ve been toting.
[1:45:54 – 1:46:00] Erik: Yeah, you’re lost in the desert, and all of a sudden you’re like, oh, I forgot I have this paracord bracelet.
[1:46:01 – 1:46:03] Adam: Just think, though, when we were on that quote-unquote trip.
[1:46:03 – 1:46:05] Adam: Is it soaked with nutrients that I can eat?
[1:46:05 – 1:46:06] Adam: Yeah, you lick it first.
[1:46:06 – 1:46:07] Erik: No, it’s not.
[1:46:07 – 1:46:11] Erik: Is it long enough to make a noose to kill myself because of my predicament?
[1:46:11 – 1:46:12] Erik: Mm-mm.
[1:46:12 – 1:46:12] Erik: No.
[1:46:13 – 1:46:14] Adam: Oh, we don’t know that.
[1:46:14 – 1:46:17] Erik: You can hang your socks on it between two cactuses.
[1:46:17 – 1:46:18] Adam: Well, remember when the…
[1:46:20 – 1:46:31] Adam: When the canoe chair broke in the canoe, the seat, and the Quetico trip, had one of us been wearing a paracord bracelet, we would have fixed it before we found a bungee cord on the next portage.
[1:46:32 – 1:46:32] Adam: Think about that.
[1:46:33 – 1:46:34] Adam: That’s my honorable mention.
[1:46:34 – 1:46:36] Adam: That’s on my wish list.
[1:46:36 – 1:46:38] Erik: But that was when we were traveling.
[1:46:38 – 1:46:40] Erik: We could have actually pulled over.
[1:46:40 – 1:46:41] Erik: Yeah.
[1:46:42 – 1:46:52] Erik: emptied out a pack and found p cord and actually retied that seat down i had not thought but we it was literally on the next landing that we found a bungee cord
[1:46:54 – 1:46:59] Adam: Anyways, now the top three are all actually Coghlan’s products that I own and still use.
[1:47:00 – 1:47:04] Adam: I’m going to give you a brief rundown of them and a rating.
[1:47:04 – 1:47:07] Erik: Is one of them the hot pad tube?
[1:47:08 – 1:47:08] Erik: Yeah.
[1:47:08 – 1:47:09] Erik: Okay, nice.
[1:47:09 – 1:47:15] Adam: I had originally written it down as cast iron grabber, but it’s actually called the silicone handle grip.
[1:47:17 – 1:47:20] Adam: This is a hashtag rare Kagi.
[1:47:21 – 1:47:21] Erik: Is it rare?
[1:47:21 – 1:47:23] Adam: Can’t find them anymore, Eric.
[1:47:23 – 1:47:24] Adam: They’re non-existent.
[1:47:24 – 1:47:25] Adam: Oh, they don’t make them anymore.
[1:47:25 – 1:47:26] Adam: There’s whispers of them on the internet.
[1:47:27 – 1:47:30] Adam: And I think I actually did find one on eBay for $18.
[1:47:30 – 1:47:31] Adam: Oh, God.
[1:47:31 – 1:47:33] Adam: But they’re basically priceless.
[1:47:33 – 1:47:35] Adam: So I still have that.
[1:47:35 – 1:47:39] Adam: It goes with us on every camping trip to hold the cast iron skillet.
[1:47:39 – 1:47:40] Adam: Still does a pretty good job.
[1:47:41 – 1:47:44] Adam: I mean, you don’t want to hang on to it for too long.
[1:47:44 – 1:47:45] Erik: I was going to say…
[1:47:45 – 1:47:49] Adam: Good enough to get the cast iron off the griddle and back.
[1:47:49 – 1:47:51] Erik: Up to a certain point.
[1:47:51 – 1:47:53] Adam: So anyways, those are sweet.
[1:47:53 – 1:47:55] Adam: And it’s rare, too, because it’s red Coglins.
[1:47:55 – 1:47:59] Adam: And I always picture Coglins gears all has to be Coglins yellow.
[1:48:00 – 1:48:00] Erik: Green or yellow.
[1:48:01 – 1:48:01] Adam: Or green.
[1:48:02 – 1:48:04] Adam: But there are some red Coglins items.
[1:48:05 – 1:48:25] Adam: and this is one of them so if you ever see one out there snatch it up like a hot pan that’s number three snatch it up next step on the list number two i like the large yellow tent pegs they’re lightweight they’re as big as a small cat and so what if you break them they’re retail for
[1:48:26 – 1:48:27] Adam: $3.99.
[1:48:27 – 1:48:28] Adam: You get 12 in a pack.
[1:48:28 – 1:48:29] Adam: You don’t need 12.
[1:48:29 – 1:48:32] Adam: I always have a set of these at the bottom of any tent I’m toting.
[1:48:33 – 1:48:37] Adam: I don’t take a tent very often, but any tent I own has these in them.
[1:48:37 – 1:48:42] Erik: I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen one of those come back basically curled like a J.
[1:48:43 – 1:48:44] Adam: Yeah, well, it happens.
[1:48:45 – 1:48:45] Adam: It does happen.
[1:48:45 – 1:48:50] Adam: They tend to grab a lot of mud and soot and dirt when they come back up.
[1:48:50 – 1:48:50] Adam: So what?
[1:48:51 – 1:48:52] Adam: Anyways, that’s…
[1:48:52 – 1:48:53] Erik: Spending for your buck, though?
[1:48:53 – 1:48:54] Adam: Yeah, sure.
[1:48:54 – 1:48:55] Adam: $399.
[1:48:55 – 1:48:56] Adam: Can’t go wrong with the large.
[1:48:56 – 1:49:00] Adam: They have small ones, too, and they have the metal pegs, as people have noted.
[1:49:00 – 1:49:07] Adam: But personally, just because that’s what I have in my tent right now, that’s what I’m going with, the large tent pegs.
[1:49:08 – 1:49:09] Adam: All right, and finally…
[1:49:10 – 1:49:13] Adam: The number one Coghlan’s item in my quiver.
[1:49:14 – 1:49:15] Adam: My Coghlan’s quiver.
[1:49:15 – 1:49:16] Adam: Number one.
[1:49:16 – 1:49:17] Erik: It is a quiver.
[1:49:18 – 1:49:19] Adam: The tent broom and dustbin.
[1:49:19 – 1:49:21] Adam: $3.99.
[1:49:21 – 1:49:22] Adam: What value.
[1:49:22 – 1:49:24] Adam: This thing, I’m not even kidding, listeners.
[1:49:24 – 1:49:27] Adam: I’ve had this thing for 14 to 15 years.
[1:49:28 – 1:49:30] Adam: The little dustbin and broom.
[1:49:30 – 1:49:31] Erik: It works amazing.
[1:49:31 – 1:49:32] Erik: I got it for Christmas when I was like 15.
[1:49:34 – 1:49:39] Adam: It’s in my, I’m now at a, I’m on my like third Eureka tent at this point.
[1:49:40 – 1:49:41] Adam: It’s in there.
[1:49:41 – 1:49:42] Adam: It’s been in all three of them.
[1:49:43 – 1:49:45] Adam: So this thing’s outlasted three very nice tents.
[1:49:46 – 1:49:47] Adam: And it’s still going strong.
[1:49:47 – 1:49:49] Adam: This thing’s not, there’s no end in sight for this thing.
[1:49:49 – 1:49:50] Adam: It might outlive me.
[1:49:51 – 1:49:52] Adam: I might have to put this thing in my will.
[1:49:52 – 1:49:54] Adam: This is an heirloom product.
[1:49:55 – 1:49:56] Adam: Wow.
[1:49:56 – 1:50:01] Erik: I sent one in a Patreon package early on in the day.
[1:50:01 – 1:50:01] Erik: The dustbin.
[1:50:02 – 1:50:02] Adam: Mm-hmm.
[1:50:02 – 1:50:10] Erik: You know, I still have the one that I originally got from my family when I was growing up and getting interested in camping, and I thought it was kind of funny at the time, and they did too.
[1:50:11 – 1:50:11] Erik: But you know what?
[1:50:12 – 1:50:15] Erik: Honestly, I don’t really bring it on camping trips to sweep out the tent.
[1:50:16 – 1:50:16] Erik: Yeah.
[1:50:16 – 1:50:18] Erik: I know it does well in that form.
[1:50:18 – 1:50:19] Erik: It does really well, yeah.
[1:50:20 – 1:50:22] Erik: But what I use it for mostly is in outfitting.
[1:50:22 – 1:50:27] Erik: The map table has a lip around the edge, and when I go out and you clean stuff.
[1:50:27 – 1:50:29] Adam: You use the map table sweeper?
[1:50:29 – 1:50:30] Erik: I sweep the map table off with it.
[1:50:30 – 1:50:31] Adam: You just get a dust buster.
[1:50:33 – 1:50:35] Adam: Yeah, well, it wouldn’t be made by Coglins.
[1:50:35 – 1:50:37] Adam: Coglins, I don’t think, makes a Dustbuster.
[1:50:37 – 1:50:42] Adam: So that’s my top four Coglins items, all of which I actually use.
[1:50:43 – 1:50:44] Adam: I’m proud to say I do use them.
[1:50:44 – 1:50:45] Adam: They’re great products.
[1:50:46 – 1:50:47] Adam: Yeah, those ones are.
[1:50:48 – 1:50:50] Adam: I’m not just making fun of Coglins products.
[1:50:50 – 1:50:52] Adam: I do have a few Coggies in my quiver.
[1:50:53 – 1:50:57] Erik: Hashtag Coggy Quiver.
[1:50:57 – 1:51:00] Erik: Coggy Quiver.
[1:51:00 – 1:51:03] Adam: That’s my new song.
[1:51:03 – 1:51:11] Erik: I can just see the Photoshop now of you with a quiver and a bunch of Coglins gear sticking out of the back of it.
[1:51:11 – 1:51:14] Adam: I need to have a pair of those Panama Jack shades on too.
[1:51:14 – 1:51:16] Adam: Does Coglins make a sunglass?
[1:51:16 – 1:51:18] Adam: I don’t think I’ve seen a Coglins sunglass yet.
[1:51:18 – 1:51:25] Erik: No, you need to get the tiny, tiny little Costa Lawrence Fishburne.
[1:51:25 – 1:51:27] Adam: Yeah, you need a Coghlan’s Morpheus.
[1:51:27 – 1:51:30] Erik: Yeah, from The Matrix.
[1:51:30 – 1:51:30] Erik: Exactly.
[1:51:30 – 1:51:31] Erik: That’s what it is.
[1:51:32 – 1:51:33] Adam: That’s what it is.
[1:51:33 – 1:51:37] Adam: What’s on your… Do you have a top Coghlan’s gear that hasn’t been mentioned?
[1:51:37 – 1:51:39] Erik: No, not that it hasn’t been mentioned.
[1:51:39 – 1:51:41] Adam: You have the fire paste, you said.
[1:51:41 – 1:51:43] Erik: Mine was head net and fire paste.
[1:51:43 – 1:51:43] Erik: Nice.
[1:51:43 – 1:51:48] Erik: Because they’re just so… Who spends money on a head net?
[1:51:49 – 1:51:49] Erik: Nobody.
[1:51:50 – 1:51:51] Erik: It’s Coghlan’s all the way.
[1:51:51 – 1:51:53] Adam: I honestly didn’t know you could spend money on a head net.
[1:51:53 – 1:51:56] Adam: I thought that was actually illegal in 17 states.
[1:51:56 – 1:51:56] Erik: Yeah.
[1:51:56 – 1:51:58] Erik: I got my big Agnes head net.
[1:51:59 – 1:52:01] Adam: It’s got a hole punctured.
[1:52:01 – 1:52:03] Erik: Ralph Lauren head net.
[1:52:03 – 1:52:09] Adam: It just smells like a dad.
[1:52:11 – 1:52:13] Adam: Do you have any buy it for life items?
[1:52:14 – 1:52:15] Adam: Let’s go back through on the buy it for life share.
[1:52:15 – 1:52:17] Adam: I got a bit of a vote tally here.
[1:52:17 – 1:52:23] Adam: It looks to me like bedding won, but that includes sleeping bags, sleeping pads, hammocks, and tents.
[1:52:24 – 1:52:29] Adam: Seemed like a lot of votes specifically for sleeping bags, I guess, ran away with that one.
[1:52:29 – 1:52:39] Adam: But I think that was always mostly everybody that said they spent up on the sleeping bag was also spending up on the various like sleeping pads and quilts and all the accoutrements.
[1:52:40 – 1:52:41] Erik: That’s not shocking at all.
[1:52:41 – 1:52:44] Adam: No, I think that was probably the highest vote getter of everything.
[1:52:45 – 1:52:48] Adam: I’m just generalizing here with check marks on the page.
[1:52:49 – 1:52:55] Adam: There was seven votes for Rain Gear, but I believe that was all by one comment, the first comment of the show.
[1:52:55 – 1:52:56] Erik: Yeah, I would not…
[1:52:56 – 1:52:58] Adam: So I’m not sure Rain Gear actually was in there.
[1:52:59 – 1:53:02] Adam: A couple specifics for Platypus, Gravity Filter…
[1:53:02 – 1:53:05] Adam: And a couple MSR gravity filter got mentioned in there.
[1:53:05 – 1:53:08] Adam: So I had like five votes for gravity filters.
[1:53:09 – 1:53:11] Adam: And four votes for footwear.
[1:53:11 – 1:53:15] Adam: And it looked like, oh, I don’t know, maybe five or four votes for nice paddle.
[1:53:15 – 1:53:16] Adam: It looked like there.
[1:53:16 – 1:53:19] Adam: So footwear and nice paddle are in there.
[1:53:20 – 1:53:25] Adam: Yeah, those are all the tops based on the voting from today’s results.
[1:53:26 – 1:53:31] Erik: Yeah, I would say the Coglins has been fully ââ¬â
[1:53:33 – 1:53:48] Erik: mentioned up to this point I don’t have too much more to say on Coglins that I really use you mentioned the pot holder which is a rare find now yeah the paste and my my go-to was the head net
[1:53:49 – 1:53:51] Adam: Yeah, I’ve not seen the paste ever.
[1:53:51 – 1:53:52] Adam: I’ve got to check this stuff out.
[1:53:52 – 1:53:53] Erik: It’s kind of crazy.
[1:53:53 – 1:53:58] Adam: I have a couple buy it for life items, but I guess they’ve all been mentioned already.
[1:53:59 – 1:54:04] Adam: Somebody mentioned Darn Tough, and we both second, hardly second Darn Tough socks.
[1:54:04 – 1:54:05] Adam: I think that was me.
[1:54:05 – 1:54:07] Erik: I mentioned it.
[1:54:07 – 1:54:08] Adam: I second that motion.
[1:54:09 – 1:54:09] Adam: Huzzah.
[1:54:09 – 1:54:10] Adam: And the motion passes.
[1:54:11 – 1:54:11] Adam: Huzzah.
[1:54:11 – 1:54:12] Erik: It just passes.
[1:54:12 – 1:54:12] Erik: Pfft.
[1:54:14 – 1:54:35] Erik: you need a camp a coglins camp uh gavel yes we should get a gavel camp law i’m currently wearing a pair of like really crappy like eddie bauer socks which are fine for like in the house i’ll allow it but in yeah in camp i don’t know but at the same time one of the
[1:54:38 – 1:55:02] Erik: thought-wise on this which is like what’s worth spending money on what’s worth not is anything that you have to wear on your body like any bit of clothing in the boundary waters why are you spending money on it like we were talking for like people have kind of mentioned it off and on like the the millennials whatever the rei crowd like let’s get a fancy like
[1:55:03 – 1:55:18] Erik: Like, if you really want to buy, like, a really nice, fancy piece of, like, quote-unquote, outdoor equipment in apparel, like, all right, fine, buy it.
[1:55:18 – 1:55:22] Erik: But then just plan on, like, wearing that around the cities on a hike in a state park.
[1:55:24 – 1:55:42] Erik: On vacation, kind of on day trips, but like it really is, it just boggles my mind when I see the number of people going out into the Boundary Waters with like top of the line, fresh, like I can smell the factory on you when you’re heading out into the Boundary Waters.
[1:55:42 – 1:55:44] Adam: Objection, your honor.
[1:55:44 – 1:55:45] Erik: You object?
[1:55:45 – 1:55:45] Erik: Yes.
[1:55:46 – 1:55:46] Adam: Well, I do.
[1:55:47 – 1:55:50] Adam: Because my number two item provided for life is Fall Raven pants.
[1:55:50 – 1:55:54] Adam: And it was mentioned, anything Fall Raven, I agree, it lasts forever.
[1:55:54 – 1:55:55] Erik: Well, sure.
[1:55:55 – 1:55:56] Adam: I blow out pants.
[1:55:56 – 1:55:58] Adam: There isn’t a pant out there that can handle this butt.
[1:55:58 – 1:55:59] Adam: I get it.
[1:55:59 – 1:56:00] Adam: I blow out pants left and right.
[1:56:00 – 1:56:06] Adam: And I’ve got two pairs of Fall Raven Vita Pro trousers, and I wear them pretty much all the time.
[1:56:06 – 1:56:06] Adam: I know.
[1:56:06 – 1:56:08] Adam: On trips, I wear them to work.
[1:56:08 – 1:56:10] Adam: I wear them going out on the town.
[1:56:11 – 1:56:12] Adam: I wear them to go into the dance.
[1:56:13 – 1:56:15] Erik: I get pants to a certain extent.
[1:56:15 – 1:56:20] Erik: My biggest issue with Fall Raven pants is they’re a little bit too much of a break-in period.
[1:56:20 – 1:56:22] Erik: Yeah, they’re stiff.
[1:56:22 – 1:56:26] Adam: These blue ones I’m wearing today, I mean, they’re like in year three, and they’re just now getting there.
[1:56:27 – 1:56:29] Adam: It’s kind of like Acelo hiking boots.
[1:56:29 – 1:56:29] Erik: Oh, God.
[1:56:30 – 1:56:34] Adam: They’re almost painful for the first year, but then once you get them in their sweet spot, oh, boy.
[1:56:35 – 1:56:41] Erik: I just had to rebuy a pair of those shoes, and I went for a walk, like a two-mile walk, and I came home with blisters.
[1:56:41 – 1:56:45] Erik: I was like, God, I hate breaking those in.
[1:56:45 – 1:56:47] Erik: But once you get them broken in, they’re nice.
[1:56:47 – 1:56:50] Adam: Yeah, no, I’m seriously lobbying for a third pair.
[1:56:50 – 1:56:56] Adam: If I got a third pair of Fall Raven pants, I could literally only ever wear Fall Raven pants and hoodies.
[1:56:56 – 1:56:56] Adam: That’s it.
[1:56:58 – 1:57:05] Erik: I guess Fall Raven is still, even to a certain extent, not exorbitant.
[1:57:06 – 1:57:07] Erik: Well, it’s not crazy.
[1:57:07 – 1:57:08] Erik: Well, that’s what I’m saying.
[1:57:08 – 1:57:11] Erik: There’s so many really expensive…
[1:57:11 – 1:57:12] Adam: There’s more expensive pants than Fall Raven?
[1:57:12 – 1:57:19] Erik: Oh, there’s so many expensive, I’m thinking like Arcteryx crap.
[1:57:19 – 1:57:32] Erik: That stuff is like, that’s for like walking around if it’s going to, like in the Scottish Highlands where you’re just like, I am in a cloud and I need to stay 100% dry.
[1:57:32 – 1:57:38] Erik: And then at the end of the day, I’m going to end at like a lodge built out of antlers.
[1:57:39 – 1:57:44] Erik: Next to a raging fire where I am dry and I can get cleaned up and everything’s going to be fine.
[1:57:44 – 1:57:45] Erik: Sounds wonderful.
[1:57:45 – 1:57:47] Erik: So much gear that is…
[1:57:50 – 1:57:56] Erik: pervade by REIs and online whatever.
[1:57:56 – 1:57:59] Adam: I gotta go check out what’s the most expensive pants I can find.
[1:58:01 – 1:58:03] Erik: I’m on a mission.
[1:58:03 – 1:58:15] Erik: Essentially what I’m saying is half of this stuff that you’re going to purchase, which is expensive, almost designed to look good for you to wear on the streets…
[1:58:16 – 1:58:17] Adam: Well, that’s the thing with the Fall Raven, though.
[1:58:17 – 1:58:20] Adam: They look good in the field and they look good on the streets.
[1:58:20 – 1:58:20] Erik: Sure.
[1:58:20 – 1:58:22] Erik: And that might be the exception, honestly.
[1:58:22 – 1:58:28] Erik: But a lot of that other stuff is kind of insane that people would spend that much money on just to go out.
[1:58:29 – 1:58:32] Erik: And unless you’re a freak…
[1:58:33 – 1:58:39] Erik: who can somehow manage to keep yourself clean, it’s going to get dirty.
[1:58:39 – 1:58:40] Erik: It’s going to get muddy.
[1:58:41 – 1:58:43] Erik: It’s going to get sunscreen on it.
[1:58:43 – 1:58:44] Erik: It’s going to get bug spray on it.
[1:58:44 – 1:58:55] Erik: So like why spend $400 on a jacket or a layer or some Patagonia thing that if you spray Deton will like melt and
[1:58:55 – 1:59:01] Adam: Well, I mean, that’s where the Raggedy Yoddy comes into because I’m wearing Fall Raven pants, but I’m also wearing like a Raggedy hoodie.
[1:59:01 – 1:59:05] Adam: And like mostly in camp, I’m just wearing like Long John’s hoodie.
[1:59:06 – 1:59:09] Adam: And then I have a wool shirt and my Fall Raven pants for when we’re moving.
[1:59:10 – 1:59:10] Adam: I don’t know.
[1:59:10 – 1:59:11] Adam: So there’s a time and a place for it.
[1:59:12 – 1:59:16] Adam: But I wear them all the time, not just in the field, but also just everywhere.
[1:59:17 – 1:59:18] Erik: I’m not anti-Fall Raven.
[1:59:18 – 1:59:28] Erik: I’m just anti what it seems like is becoming that company, which is like, I remember back in the day where it was like, North Face, they make good stuff.
[1:59:28 – 1:59:38] Erik: And then like 10 years, like five, 10 years later, it was like, oh, this is just what all the hipster college girls think is like fun.
[1:59:38 – 1:59:40] Erik: And it’s the style at the time.
[1:59:40 – 1:59:41] Adam: Like too popular probably.
[1:59:41 – 1:59:42] Erik: Yeah.
[1:59:42 – 1:59:44] Erik: But I mean, I think that they still make good stuff.
[1:59:45 – 1:59:46] Adam: Yeah, I haven’t bought any new ones in a while.
[1:59:46 – 1:59:51] Adam: So, I mean, if I can get my hands on a third pair of trousers, I’d like to see if they’re still holding up.
[1:59:51 – 1:59:56] Adam: But, I mean, honest to God, it’s like the only pants that have been able to handle these legs, Eric.
[1:59:57 – 1:59:57] Adam: Yeah.
[1:59:57 – 1:59:58] Adam: So, let’s just leave it at that.
[1:59:58 – 2:00:03] Adam: My last one I had on here, which got several shout-outs, and it was a good paddle.
[2:00:04 – 2:00:09] Adam: And they did change my entire like outlook on the boundary waters when I upgraded finally.
[2:00:09 – 2:00:15] Adam: And yeah, I, if you’re serious, I mean, that’s, I would don’t even worry about getting a canoe, you know?
[2:00:16 – 2:00:16] Adam: I mean, right.
[2:00:17 – 2:00:20] Adam: If that’s something you’re going to, if you’re going to rent something, just rent the canoe, but buy the other stuff.
[2:00:21 – 2:00:27] Adam: Like you’re not like the moment I felt like I was actually a serious paddlers when I finally got that good.
[2:00:28 – 2:00:30] Adam: that good carbon bent shaft paddle.
[2:00:30 – 2:00:31] Adam: I got a Zavril.
[2:00:31 – 2:00:32] Adam: They don’t make them anymore.
[2:00:32 – 2:00:35] Adam: I guess they’re done, but boy, they’re sweet paddles.
[2:00:35 – 2:00:41] Adam: I, I got mine for like 199 99 with tax somehow, which was a steel.
[2:00:41 – 2:00:42] Adam: I don’t know.
[2:00:42 – 2:00:44] Adam: You know, they were more than that usually.
[2:00:44 – 2:00:44] Adam: Yeah.
[2:00:45 – 2:00:49] Adam: And I bought it and I’ve taken that on every single trip since.
[2:00:49 – 2:00:50] Adam: And that thing’s going to last.
[2:00:50 – 2:00:52] Adam: You can just tell it’s going to last forever.
[2:00:52 – 2:00:53] Adam: It weighs nothing.
[2:00:53 – 2:01:14] Adam: and somebody said in the comments your arms and shoulders will thank you it’s amazing the difference that’ll make and you know we’re talking about like yeah you spend most of your trip sleeping and you gotta have a good sleeping bag to feel good well if you’re not you’re on a boundary waters trip and you’re even doing a little bit of paddling like if you have a nice paddle it’s gonna make a huge difference in how you feel
[2:01:14 – 2:01:23] Adam: And it just like not beyond that, it just made a big difference in like how I feel like just as a person and like how I relate to the Boundary Waters.
[2:01:23 – 2:01:26] Adam: Like it was at that moment that it was like, yeah, I’m like, I’m really here.
[2:01:27 – 2:01:29] Adam: I’m a, I’m a Boundary Waters guy now.
[2:01:29 – 2:01:30] Erik: Boundary Waters guy?
[2:01:30 – 2:01:31] Adam: No, it was when I got my paddle.
[2:01:31 – 2:01:32] Adam: It wasn’t when I got the…
[2:01:32 – 2:01:34] Adam: I already had the canoe at that point.
[2:01:34 – 2:01:37] Adam: And I had done a month-long trip.
[2:01:38 – 2:01:40] Adam: But it was after that that I got the good paddle.
[2:01:40 – 2:01:41] Adam: And I was like, no, now I’m serious.
[2:01:41 – 2:01:43] Adam: I’m a serious paddler now.
[2:01:43 – 2:01:45] Adam: I don’t take anything too seriously, but…
[2:01:46 – 2:01:47] Adam: That was a hell of a buy.
[2:01:47 – 2:01:49] Adam: That’s a serious buy for life.
[2:01:49 – 2:01:54] Adam: I’m not gentle on that thing, but it’s really a nice paddle.
[2:01:54 – 2:02:04] Adam: I would urge, not just that kind or whatever, but anybody who likes going on trips, that’s something you can seriously buy that’s going to make every trip you do in the future way better.
[2:02:06 – 2:02:27] Adam: and it’ll pay for itself in like two years even if you only do a couple trips i mean they’re just awesome to have so go ahead and you know you know you don’t spend 200 on a paddle or whatever but well even get a paddle that’s yours even some of the wooden bench heft ones yeah oh yeah i mean it’s night it’s just night and day compared to paddling them aluminum sticks they send out or whatever yeah um
[2:02:28 – 2:02:35] Adam: Yeah, so we had quite a few votes for Nice Paddle, and that was my number one before we sat down to hit record here tonight.
[2:02:35 – 2:02:40] Adam: So I was glad to see that, and I can’t say enough about it.
[2:02:40 – 2:02:45] Adam: Just spend a little bit on a Nice Paddle if you don’t already have one.
[2:02:45 – 2:02:47] Adam: Your arms and shoulders will thank you.
[2:02:47 – 2:02:50] Erik: Yeah, no, I agree with that for sure.
[2:02:50 – 2:02:57] Erik: And if you find yourself in a situation where you can have a friend build one for you, that’s also an added bonus.
[2:03:00 – 2:03:01] Erik: Over two hours.
[2:03:01 – 2:03:02] Erik: We did it.
[2:03:02 – 2:03:04] Adam: We’re back talking Boundary Waters.
[2:03:04 – 2:03:06] Adam: It’s been good to be talking camp gear again.
[2:03:06 – 2:03:09] Adam: It’s always fun talking gear, especially in the off season.
[2:03:09 – 2:03:11] Adam: Thinking about new things you might be able to get.
[2:03:12 – 2:03:13] Adam: Upgrade here or there.
[2:03:15 – 2:03:26] Adam: You know, it’s a never-ending thing, just trying to mend things that have been roughed up and get new things that might be a real upgrade on things you’ve been using.
[2:03:27 – 2:03:30] Adam: It all goes to the same thing, and that’s for happy paddling.
[2:03:30 – 2:03:32] Adam: You got to get out there and paddle, baby.
[2:03:32 – 2:03:33] Erik: happy paddling.
[2:03:33 – 2:03:36] Erik: I got some loon bleeps to work on.
[2:03:36 – 2:03:37] Erik: The loons are back.
[2:03:37 – 2:03:39] Erik: The intro’s back because of the champion.
[2:03:39 – 2:03:42] Erik: Hashtag lunatics.
[2:03:42 – 2:03:43] Adam: They got the golden trough.
[2:03:44 – 2:03:45] Erik: The golden trough.
[2:03:47 – 2:03:49] Erik: Next week, we’re coming back.
[2:03:49 – 2:03:51] Erik: We’re starting a book report series.
[2:03:53 – 2:04:02] Erik: Things have become substantially more moist in the Northwoods, which is nice.
[2:04:02 – 2:04:03] Erik: I like it.
[2:04:03 – 2:04:05] Erik: We’re supposed to also get a little bit more rain.
[2:04:06 – 2:04:07] Erik: in the next couple of days.
[2:04:07 – 2:04:27] Erik: But nevertheless, we have to stay diligent and we are going to refresh all of our memories on the harrowing tale that is the Ham Lake wildfire that did a little bit of damage up here in the Northwoods, both in the wilderness and to physical property.
[2:04:28 – 2:04:30] Erik: So you can look forward to that for sure next week.
[2:04:30 – 2:04:32] Erik: Probably going to be two episodes.
[2:04:33 – 2:04:56] Erik: and then we’ve got lake trout info uh season plans that y’all have that’s always fun where are you going where are you heading what are your goals but this should do it for what’s worth it i don’t know did we ever did we come to any conclusions we mostly just yelled at people um
[2:04:58 – 2:05:01] Adam: Yeah, well, you meant it, and it came from a good place, though.
[2:05:01 – 2:05:01] Erik: Yeah, it did.
[2:05:02 – 2:05:03] Adam: We’re just trying to help.
[2:05:03 – 2:05:05] Adam: That doesn’t make it any better.
[2:05:06 – 2:05:07] Erik: It’s mean.
[2:05:07 – 2:05:16] Erik: We’re a little over a month away from the one-year anniversary of our Tumble Homecast on subreddit.
[2:05:16 – 2:05:18] Erik: We’re at 391 members.
[2:05:19 – 2:05:26] Erik: It would be cool to get to 400 by May 16th, which is essentially opening day for
[2:05:27 – 2:05:28] Erik: at least at Clearwater.
[2:05:29 – 2:05:33] Erik: It’s only a couple of days after we open, only a couple of days after the fishing opener.
[2:05:34 – 2:05:43] Erik: And I would have to believe by then for sure, open water, probably at least a week’s worth of open water canoe trips on the water by then.
[2:05:44 – 2:05:44] Erik: We’ll see.
[2:05:45 – 2:05:47] Erik: But come on, there’s got to be nine more people out there.
[2:05:48 – 2:05:50] Erik: I know, I can see the numbers.
[2:05:51 – 2:05:58] Erik: The disparity between downloads and members on our Tumble Homecasts, it’s a bit of a gap.
[2:05:59 – 2:06:00] Erik: I know, you’re out there.
[2:06:00 – 2:06:00] Erik: Come on.
[2:06:01 – 2:06:03] Erik: If you only go to Reddit for one reason…
[2:06:04 – 2:06:32] Adam: come to the subreddit that and the high strangeness check out high strangeness that’s a good subreddit is it i’ve never been on that one that’s a lot of fun our high if anybody knows how to get the coglin’s box uh upvote button uh send me a message shoot me a message over on instagram dm me on that try and figure that one out uh i probably just need to download the new version but i don’t know do i have to disable some cookies or something what’s the deal do i gotta get an incognito mode eric
[2:06:34 – 2:06:39] Erik: It’s pretty weird that you’re not seeing that.
[2:06:39 – 2:06:40] Adam: It’s because I’m on night mode, maybe.
[2:06:41 – 2:06:41] Adam: Maybe.
[2:06:41 – 2:06:42] Adam: I go back to day mode.
[2:06:42 – 2:06:43] Erik: Well, thank you all.
[2:06:44 – 2:06:44] Erik: All right.
[2:06:44 – 2:06:52] Erik: Regardless of opinions, ours versus yours, or vice versa, it doesn’t really matter.
[2:06:52 – 2:06:54] Erik: We’re all friends here.
[2:06:54 – 2:06:55] Erik: We love you all.
[2:06:55 – 2:07:01] Erik: Opinions are opinions, and we’re giving them away like puppies.
[2:07:02 – 2:07:05] Adam: Like gas in the movie Love, Liza.
[2:07:05 – 2:07:07] Adam: That’s what we’re giving it away.
[2:07:07 – 2:07:09] Erik: Oh, I forgot about Love, Liza.
[2:07:09 – 2:07:10] Erik: We talked about that.
[2:07:10 – 2:07:11] Adam: So watch Love, Liza.
[2:07:11 – 2:07:12] Adam: That’s the end.
[2:07:13 – 2:07:14] Adam: Cue the chiptunes.
[2:08:00 – 2:08:01] UNKNOWN: Thank you.

