We’re getting spooky this week and trying to figure out what may be real or just a figment of our imagination.
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[0:00:43 – 0:00:45] Adam: Welcome to Trouble Home!
[0:00:45 – 0:00:46] Adam: Oh my god.
[0:00:47 – 0:00:49] Adam: Borderwaters podcast.
[0:00:50 – 0:00:57] Adam: My name is Francois Lacoste d’Or coming to you from the spook shed with my eerie friend Eric.
[0:00:57 – 0:00:58] Adam: Hello Eric.
[0:00:58 – 0:01:00] Erik: Hello, it’s me, eerie Eric.
[0:01:01 – 0:01:02] Erik: Ah.
[0:01:02 – 0:01:03] Erik: Ha ha ha ha ha!
[0:01:05 – 0:01:13] Erik: Wow, did you, not to jump the gun too much here, but did you hand pick that beer sponsorship there?
[0:01:14 – 0:01:16] Adam: No way, this is just perfectly in line.
[0:01:16 – 0:01:19] Erik: I feel like the can artwork is perfect.
[0:01:19 – 0:01:26] Adam: Tonight’s art supply sponsor is from the great… What is it?
[0:01:27 – 0:01:29] Adam: Wittbier from Miranda and Dakota.
[0:01:30 – 0:01:37] Adam: Delivered in August of 2023 on their way in or out of Winchell.
[0:01:38 – 0:01:39] Adam: Big fans of the Big Winch.
[0:01:40 – 0:01:44] Adam: We got ourselves… A wizard…
[0:01:45 – 0:01:48] Erik: Ask character holding a chalice of some sort?
[0:01:48 – 0:01:53] Adam: The earberry hop-free brewing, the maypole saison.
[0:01:53 – 0:02:15] Adam: It’s not exactly a maypole season, but it’s like a freaky bear, a strange yellow bird, a human-sized grasshopper, and a straight-up monster with antlers, and then also another freaky bird wearing a mask all dancing around the maypole.
[0:02:15 – 0:02:22] Erik: Yeah, I guess the side of the cans that I see here is just like a wizard man in the woods, like, carrying something.
[0:02:22 – 0:02:23] Adam: Oh, God, this one’s even, yeah.
[0:02:24 – 0:02:25] Erik: Oh, yeah, you’ve got an entirely different can.
[0:02:25 – 0:02:27] Erik: Because you’ve got the maypole design.
[0:02:27 – 0:02:31] Erik: I have, like, creatures in the forest kind of slinking out from behind trees.
[0:02:31 – 0:02:32] Erik: Oh, yes.
[0:02:32 – 0:02:35] Erik: You probably were wondering, like, what is this guy talking about?
[0:02:35 – 0:02:36] Erik: This is not very seasonal at all.
[0:02:36 – 0:02:38] Erik: It literally says may on it.
[0:02:38 – 0:02:42] Adam: Here’s the note from the Airberry in Madison.
[0:02:42 – 0:02:44] Adam: I’m definitely not saying that right.
[0:02:44 – 0:02:46] Erik: The Herberry or the Airberry?
[0:02:46 – 0:02:47] Adam: Hairberry.
[0:02:47 – 0:02:48] Adam: Hairberry.
[0:02:48 – 0:02:50] Adam: I think that was probably the closest.
[0:02:50 – 0:02:50] Adam: From where?
[0:02:50 – 0:02:51] Adam: In Madison.
[0:02:51 – 0:02:51] Erik: Madison.
[0:02:52 – 0:02:55] Adam: We bring to you guys a little sampler pack.
[0:02:55 – 0:02:56] Adam: Oh, there we go.
[0:02:56 – 0:02:58] Adam: Of two of our favorite beers.
[0:02:58 – 0:03:03] Adam: We hope you enjoy these beers as much as we’ve enjoyed listening to you guys over the years.
[0:03:03 – 0:03:04] Adam: Cheers, Miranda.
[0:03:05 – 0:03:09] Adam: Exhausted Horty, and Dakota, dear friends of the show.
[0:03:09 – 0:03:11] Erik: Exhausted Horty.
[0:03:12 – 0:03:15] Adam: Very nice handwriting with a howdy tumble, homies.
[0:03:15 – 0:03:16] Erik: Howdy, and some twine.
[0:03:16 – 0:03:17] Erik: Is that beer this great?
[0:03:17 – 0:03:22] Adam: Yeah, affixed to the beers in twine, we have a great sage vit beer.
[0:03:23 – 0:03:26] Adam: And a Maypole Saison from the Air Barrier.
[0:03:27 – 0:03:29] Adam: I’ve said it nine different ways already.
[0:03:29 – 0:03:33] Adam: And I said, I remember they dropped this off and they told me where it was from.
[0:03:33 – 0:03:37] Adam: And I was like, I, you know, I lived in Madison.
[0:03:37 – 0:03:37] Adam: Never heard of it.
[0:03:38 – 0:03:38] Adam: Madtown?
[0:03:39 – 0:03:39] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:03:39 – 0:03:40] Adam: It’s kind of new.
[0:03:40 – 0:03:43] Adam: But within the last like seven to eight years, I was like, yep.
[0:03:45 – 0:03:46] Adam: New to me, then.
[0:03:46 – 0:03:46] Adam: New to you, yeah.
[0:03:47 – 0:03:48] Erik: This is episode 240?
[0:03:49 – 0:03:50] Erik: 240.
[0:03:50 – 0:03:51] Erik: 240.
[0:03:52 – 0:03:53] Erik: It’s… 240.
[0:03:56 – 0:03:58] Adam: I’m going with the Great Sage Vita Beer.
[0:03:59 – 0:04:00] Adam: Ooh, it’s, um…
[0:04:02 – 0:04:05] Adam: This one, again, this one’s got some of that licorice to it, Eric.
[0:04:06 – 0:04:10] Adam: The strange flavors continue into the fall here on Tumble Home.
[0:04:10 – 0:04:14] Erik: Well, you have to agree that that can artwork is definitely very fitting.
[0:04:15 – 0:04:16] Adam: It is, yeah.
[0:04:16 – 0:04:17] Adam: The witch beer.
[0:04:18 – 0:04:20] Adam: Yeah, the strange mask, the wizard man.
[0:04:20 – 0:04:24] Erik: The wizard man, he seems kind of jolly.
[0:04:24 – 0:04:25] Erik: His eyes are beady.
[0:04:26 – 0:04:28] Adam: Yeah, he’s jolly, but sinister.
[0:04:28 – 0:04:30] Adam: It’s a sinister kind of jolly.
[0:04:30 – 0:04:31] Erik: Oh, no, it’s not a ghost.
[0:04:31 – 0:04:34] Erik: It looks like it’s just a bird with very dark eyes.
[0:04:35 – 0:04:35] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:04:37 – 0:04:38] Erik: That smells like beer.
[0:04:39 – 0:04:39] Erik: You got it.
[0:04:42 – 0:04:42] Erik: Holy moly.
[0:04:42 – 0:04:44] Erik: It smells very flavorful.
[0:04:45 – 0:04:47] Adam: Yeah, it’s full of flavor, yeah.
[0:04:49 – 0:04:53] Adam: It’s full of flavor from Mendota all the way down to Monona.
[0:04:53 – 0:04:56] Adam: Across the isthmus of flavor we go.
[0:04:56 – 0:04:57] Adam: The isthmus of flavor town?
[0:04:57 – 0:05:00] Adam: The isthmus is just like a big old tongue made of land.
[0:05:01 – 0:05:03] Erik: The old land tongue.
[0:05:03 – 0:05:06] Adam: That’s what they always said when I lived in Madtown.
[0:05:06 – 0:05:06] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:05:07 – 0:05:08] Erik: Did you refer to it as Madtown?
[0:05:08 – 0:05:09] Erik: Not once.
[0:05:10 – 0:05:11] Erik: Not even once.
[0:05:12 – 0:05:16] Erik: Are they Madtownies or Madisonites?
[0:05:16 – 0:05:18] Erik: What the heck do you call somebody from Madison?
[0:05:19 – 0:05:20] Adam: Badger people.
[0:05:20 – 0:05:21] Adam: Badger people?
[0:05:21 – 0:05:22] Adam: No, I don’t know.
[0:05:22 – 0:05:24] Adam: It’s just called the hippies of Wisconsin.
[0:05:24 – 0:05:27] Erik: They don’t really do that for cities, though, right?
[0:05:27 – 0:05:28] Erik: They don’t.
[0:05:28 – 0:05:28] Erik: I don’t think so.
[0:05:29 – 0:05:32] Erik: Because it’s hard enough to do it for people that live in states.
[0:05:32 – 0:05:34] Adam: They’re just called the progressive Danes.
[0:05:34 – 0:05:35] Adam: Okay.
[0:05:36 – 0:05:36] Adam: Dane County.
[0:05:37 – 0:05:37] Adam: Yeah, sure.
[0:05:37 – 0:05:38] Adam: There you go.
[0:05:38 – 0:05:47] Adam: I was trying to delete all the emails out of my Gmail today, and it took way longer than it should have.
[0:05:47 – 0:05:48] Adam: I’ll tell you that.
[0:05:48 – 0:05:49] Erik: Yeah, it’s not easy.
[0:05:49 – 0:05:51] Adam: Gmail’s like, hey, you’re almost running out of storage.
[0:05:51 – 0:05:52] Adam: You want to buy more storage?
[0:05:52 – 0:05:55] Adam: I was like, how about we just delete all my emails?
[0:05:55 – 0:05:55] Adam: I don’t need them.
[0:05:55 – 0:05:57] Adam: They’re like, are you sure about that?
[0:05:58 – 0:05:59] Adam: Gmail’s starting to get a little nervous.
[0:06:00 – 0:06:01] Adam: I said, Gmail, go ahead and delete them.
[0:06:01 – 0:06:02] Adam: All of them?
[0:06:02 – 0:06:03] Adam: Okay, well, we’ll delete 100 first.
[0:06:04 – 0:06:07] Adam: I was like, no, I’m going to select them all, and then I’ll hit delete.
[0:06:07 – 0:06:09] Adam: And they’re like, okay, are you sure about this?
[0:06:10 – 0:06:14] Adam: And I was like, yeah, Gmail, go ahead and delete them, all 38,000 emails since I started this account.
[0:06:14 – 0:06:15] Adam: And they’re like…
[0:06:16 – 0:06:20] Adam: But do you need the signature of a guardian?
[0:06:20 – 0:06:20] Adam: Please don’t.
[0:06:20 – 0:06:21] Adam: And I was like, just delete them.
[0:06:22 – 0:06:22] Adam: Gmail.
[0:06:23 – 0:06:26] Erik: Is there a select all, delete all email button?
[0:06:26 – 0:06:26] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:06:26 – 0:06:27] Adam: And it doesn’t work at all.
[0:06:27 – 0:06:28] Adam: It doesn’t work at all.
[0:06:28 – 0:06:32] Adam: They just continue to obfuscate and try and delay you.
[0:06:32 – 0:06:34] Erik: They just end up in a different folder somewhere, too.
[0:06:34 – 0:06:35] Erik: Yeah, exactly.
[0:06:35 – 0:06:36] Erik: And you have to delete the ones in the…
[0:06:36 – 0:06:40] Adam: It literally took me an hour and 15 minutes to delete all 38,000 emails.
[0:06:41 – 0:06:44] Adam: But at the end, I was getting into the old emails and I found one in there.
[0:06:44 – 0:06:47] Adam: It was like a registration for the paddling portage.
[0:06:48 – 0:06:48] Erik: Oh, wow.
[0:06:48 – 0:06:50] Adam: Which is the classic canoe race in Madison.
[0:06:50 – 0:06:51] Adam: Yeah.
[0:06:51 – 0:06:56] Adam: And then a couple emails to Captain Mike in there like, hey, Captain Mike, I haven’t heard from you in a couple months.
[0:06:56 – 0:06:58] Adam: You know the race is tomorrow, right?
[0:06:58 – 0:06:59] Adam: You’re going to be there, right?
[0:06:59 – 0:07:01] Adam: Captain Mike, are you out there?
[0:07:01 – 0:07:01] Adam: Are you listening?
[0:07:01 – 0:07:02] Adam: Yeah.
[0:07:02 – 0:07:04] Adam: He was there, and we posted.
[0:07:04 – 0:07:05] Erik: He didn’t respond, but he showed up.
[0:07:05 – 0:07:16] Adam: He didn’t respond because he doesn’t believe an email, but he did show up at the beach head, and we posted a beautiful time of one hour and 13 seconds, and we never did crack the under one hour mark ever.
[0:07:16 – 0:07:17] Erik: Dang.
[0:07:17 – 0:07:20] Adam: In multiple tries with an aluminum canoe.
[0:07:20 – 0:07:25] Erik: Do you think the – do you have to use – I think we’ve chatted about this in the past.
[0:07:25 – 0:07:26] Erik: Do you have to use an aluminum canoe?
[0:07:26 – 0:07:28] Adam: I’m pretty sure you can use whatever you want.
[0:07:28 – 0:07:34] Erik: Well, do you think a non-riveted smooth bottom like Kevlar or Royal X would have made the 13-second difference?
[0:07:34 – 0:07:39] Adam: I’m sure you and I could have easily cracked an under-hour time and probably a top 100 finish.
[0:07:40 – 0:08:07] Adam: I was telling these folks, Miranda and Dakota, when they dropped these off about this, and I said the strangest part of it all was like in the fifth try, the one year we got so close to hitting the one-hour mark, you start on Mendota, and you do a loop on a Mendota, and then you portage over the Isthmus, and then you have to paddle across Monona down to the final finish line at the park where the kegs are.
[0:08:08 – 0:08:09] Adam: Of course, there’s kegs at the finish line.
[0:08:09 – 0:08:14] Adam: It wouldn’t be a race in Wisconsin if there wasn’t kegs at the end in a terrible rock and roll band.
[0:08:15 – 0:08:15] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:08:15 – 0:08:23] Adam: And we are on the middle of the last leg going across Mendota, and we passed some people paddling with literally garden shovels.
[0:08:23 – 0:08:24] Erik: Oh, wow.
[0:08:24 – 0:08:24] Erik: Nice.
[0:08:24 – 0:08:25] Adam: Metal garden shovels.
[0:08:25 – 0:08:25] Adam: Yeah.
[0:08:26 – 0:08:27] Erik: Well, it’s good that you passed them.
[0:08:28 – 0:08:29] Adam: Yeah, but then I started to think.
[0:08:29 – 0:08:32] Adam: I was like, well, how the hell were they this far ahead of us?
[0:08:32 – 0:08:34] Adam: It’s a shotgun start scenario here.
[0:08:34 – 0:08:36] Adam: It’s not like a timed interval.
[0:08:37 – 0:08:42] Adam: So they somehow beat us 75% of the way through the race with garden shovels?
[0:08:43 – 0:08:45] Adam: Or did they switch to garden shovels at the end as a joke?
[0:08:45 – 0:08:47] Erik: Yeah, just to come into the finish line.
[0:08:47 – 0:08:48] Erik: With garden shovels?
[0:08:48 – 0:08:49] Adam: Yeah.
[0:08:49 – 0:08:50] Erik: Maybe.
[0:08:50 – 0:08:50] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:08:50 – 0:08:51] Adam: It haunts me to this day.
[0:08:51 – 0:08:54] Adam: That might be the scariest story we’re about to tell tonight.
[0:08:55 – 0:08:55] Adam: It’s pretty scary.
[0:08:56 – 0:08:57] Adam: Still keeps me awake at night.
[0:08:58 – 0:08:59] Adam: Garden Shovel Boys, are you out there?
[0:08:59 – 0:09:00] Adam: Are you listening?
[0:09:01 – 0:09:03] Adam: I hate you with every fiber of my being.
[0:09:03 – 0:09:03] Adam: You did pass.
[0:09:03 – 0:09:06] Adam: But I also, goddammit, do I respect you.
[0:09:06 – 0:09:10] Erik: Yeah, well, it still leaves you questioning to this day, which says a lot.
[0:09:10 – 0:09:12] Adam: Yeah, you know, I still think about that.
[0:09:13 – 0:09:13] Adam: It does say a lot.
[0:09:13 – 0:09:16] Erik: Just like the little short, like, post-hole digging style shovels?
[0:09:16 – 0:09:18] Adam: Yes, like, not big shovels either.
[0:09:18 – 0:09:24] Adam: They’re not like they’re out there with big, like, plastic snow shovels or something that would really move some water.
[0:09:24 – 0:09:24] Adam: Yeah.
[0:09:24 – 0:09:28] Adam: Like, the most inefficient possible way you could paddle an aluminum canoe.
[0:09:28 – 0:09:28] Erik: A little skinny.
[0:09:29 – 0:09:34] Adam: There’s a lot of devilry at the beginning, too, and a lot of dirty maneuvers.
[0:09:34 – 0:09:36] Adam: You’ve been at the gunfoot and canoe races.
[0:09:36 – 0:09:36] Adam: You see this.
[0:09:36 – 0:09:37] Adam: Jostling, grappling.
[0:09:37 – 0:09:38] Adam: Oh, yeah, yeah.
[0:09:38 – 0:09:44] Adam: There’s a lot of people dumping at the beginning and pushing off of each other, and it’s real cutthroat.
[0:09:44 – 0:09:46] Erik: You said you, on the fifth time?
[0:09:46 – 0:09:48] Adam: Yeah, I think we end up doing it five times.
[0:09:49 – 0:09:49] Adam: Five years.
[0:09:50 – 0:09:52] Adam: Yeah, it’s once a year.
[0:09:52 – 0:09:54] Adam: Okay.
[0:09:54 – 0:09:55] Erik: What time of year?
[0:09:55 – 0:09:55] Erik: Spring?
[0:09:56 – 0:09:56] Erik: Summer?
[0:09:56 – 0:09:57] Erik: It’s usually in the summer.
[0:09:57 – 0:09:58] Erik: It never gets canceled.
[0:09:58 – 0:09:59] Erik: It’s a beautiful summer day.
[0:09:59 – 0:10:01] Adam: I’ve never seen it get canceled.
[0:10:01 – 0:10:02] Adam: I don’t even know if it’s still happening.
[0:10:02 – 0:10:07] Adam: I think they told me that they no longer allow the portage part, though, and it might not even be a thing anymore.
[0:10:07 – 0:10:08] Adam: Is anybody out there listening?
[0:10:09 – 0:10:09] Adam: What?
[0:10:09 – 0:10:13] Adam: Confirm this, that the paddle and portage is no longer an actual paddle and portage?
[0:10:13 – 0:10:14] Erik: It got too dangerous.
[0:10:14 – 0:10:21] Adam: It would generally be planned around the Saturday, which is Madison is famous for their beautiful farmer’s market on the Capitol Square.
[0:10:22 – 0:10:27] Adam: You’d portage right through the damn farmer’s market, and you’d have all these crazed hippies cheering you on the whole way.
[0:10:27 – 0:10:29] Adam: It was a wonderful atmosphere.
[0:10:29 – 0:10:33] Erik: Yeah, that sounds very… Something like a real mad town experience.
[0:10:33 – 0:10:37] Adam: Apparently it got too dangerous, or they got too many condos down there now.
[0:10:37 – 0:10:37] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:10:38 – 0:10:39] Erik: Yeah, somebody with a… Development.
[0:10:40 – 0:10:41] Erik: …basket of heirloom tomatoes got…
[0:10:42 – 0:10:46] Adam: ran over by somebody with a garden shovel, and that was the end of that.
[0:10:47 – 0:10:48] Erik: That’s the end of that story.
[0:10:48 – 0:10:54] Adam: I’m going to give these great sage wit beers 10 out of 10.
[0:10:54 – 0:10:55] Adam: It’s Missi.
[0:10:56 – 0:10:56] Erik: It’s Missi.
[0:10:56 – 0:10:58] Adam: There is a fun thing in Madison, too.
[0:10:58 – 0:11:00] Adam: There’s the Harrah River.
[0:11:00 – 0:11:08] Adam: It connects all the chain of lake there, and there is a section that goes between the two big lakes through the isthmus, and there is the actual lock system
[0:11:10 – 0:11:20] Adam: And you can ride a boat down through the locks and then down the little river and bang your prop on the rocks and actually make your way from Mendota down to Monona and back and forth.
[0:11:20 – 0:11:22] Erik: That’s not an option during the race?
[0:11:22 – 0:11:25] Adam: No, it’s not near the race.
[0:11:26 – 0:11:38] Adam: It’s farther over to the east from the downtown, but it’s in the really affluent, nice part of the Isthmus where all the fancy bike paths and co-ops and houses are.
[0:11:38 – 0:11:40] Erik: Yeah, I thought the entire Isthmus had been gentrified at this point.
[0:11:41 – 0:11:43] Adam: It’s a pretty hot real estate market down there, yeah.
[0:11:44 – 0:11:46] Adam: Anybody near the Yajara River is doing just fine.
[0:11:46 – 0:11:47] Adam: Yeah.
[0:11:48 – 0:11:59] Adam: I’ve been through there once on a motorboat, though, and you’re really messing with your prop going through there at any time of year, but it’s kind of a neat little thing that connects the chain of links.
[0:12:01 – 0:12:02] Adam: Yeah, beautiful town, Madison.
[0:12:03 – 0:12:03] Adam: Madison.
[0:12:03 – 0:12:04] Adam: Wonderful.
[0:12:05 – 0:12:14] Adam: Anyways, the Irberry was not a thing when I lived there, and I have no idea where it is, but…
[0:12:15 – 0:12:15] Erik: Herbiary.
[0:12:16 – 0:12:20] Adam: Dane County and the Progressive Danes, they know what they’re doing down there.
[0:12:21 – 0:12:22] Erik: Hop-free brewing.
[0:12:22 – 0:12:23] Erik: I don’t know what that means.
[0:12:24 – 0:12:26] Adam: Is that even possible?
[0:12:26 – 0:12:27] Adam: People out there anti-hop?
[0:12:28 – 0:12:29] Erik: Can’t do the hops?
[0:12:30 – 0:12:30] Erik: Hop allergy?
[0:12:30 – 0:12:31] Adam: This definitely is not hoppy.
[0:12:32 – 0:12:32] Erik: I’m sure not.
[0:12:32 – 0:12:33] Erik: I mean, it wouldn’t be.
[0:12:33 – 0:12:35] Adam: Tastes more like a tea or something.
[0:12:36 – 0:12:36] Adam: You know me.
[0:12:36 – 0:12:38] Erik: It’s probably all that coriander.
[0:12:38 – 0:12:39] Erik: Yeah, you’re an aficionado.
[0:12:39 – 0:12:40] Adam: I’m a tea horse now.
[0:12:41 – 0:12:41] Adam: Tea horse.
[0:12:42 – 0:12:43] Adam: Fancy like that.
[0:12:44 – 0:12:49] Adam: Yes, send the oats and the veats over my way.
[0:12:49 – 0:12:53] Adam: Do you have any Ronald Share Outdoor Calendar facts of the night for us?
[0:12:53 – 0:12:57] Erik: The calendar is just over there sitting forlornly in a chair.
[0:12:57 – 0:13:00] Erik: I can’t see it from here.
[0:13:00 – 0:13:01] Erik: What is it?
[0:13:01 – 0:13:03] Erik: Some kind of a harvest moon?
[0:13:03 – 0:13:05] Adam: I think it is pretty close to a harvest moon.
[0:13:05 – 0:13:06] Adam: We’ll just say that.
[0:13:06 – 0:13:07] Adam: It’s the harvest moon.
[0:13:07 – 0:13:08] Erik: It’s the harvest moon.
[0:13:08 – 0:13:10] Adam: October 27th, 2023.
[0:13:10 – 0:13:11] Adam: Sunsets at 5.58 p.m.
[0:13:11 – 0:13:11] Adam: Thank you, Ronald.
[0:13:11 – 0:13:12] Adam: Thanks, Ron.
[0:13:12 – 0:13:13] Adam: You son of a bitch.
[0:13:24 – 0:13:45] Adam: welcome to tumble home after dark we’re talking about some scary scary stories here tonight what are you gonna be for halloween eric hopefully warm so it’s so scary in here i can see my breath yeah we got a new can of propane eric showed up deliver the goods yeah big old can of propane um
[0:13:45 – 0:13:47] Adam: I think I’m going to go as roadkill.
[0:13:48 – 0:13:49] Adam: Okay.
[0:13:49 – 0:13:50] Adam: Yeah.
[0:13:50 – 0:13:52] Adam: Baby’s going to be a car.
[0:13:52 – 0:13:52] Adam: Wow.
[0:13:53 – 0:13:55] Adam: And I’m going to be a roadkill, I think.
[0:13:55 – 0:13:59] Erik: So you’re just going to like patch on some like fur and then just.
[0:13:59 – 0:14:04] Adam: Well, I got a couple of coyote pelts and then I figure I’ll do like a gray hoodie with like tire.
[0:14:04 – 0:14:11] Adam: I’ll fix some sort of tire tracks to it with spray paint or, you know, puffy puff paint.
[0:14:11 – 0:14:14] Erik: You got any spare tires laying around?
[0:14:14 – 0:14:16] Adam: I have a couple hundred spare tires laying around.
[0:14:16 – 0:14:21] Erik: I bet you just do a thick coating of spray paint on a tire and then just roll it across.
[0:14:21 – 0:14:22] Adam: Roll it across.
[0:14:22 – 0:14:23] Adam: That’s what I was thinking.
[0:14:23 – 0:14:28] Adam: You know, now I’m also thinking I could just cut up one of the spare tires and sort of like make a sash.
[0:14:28 – 0:14:29] Erik: Oh, my God.
[0:14:29 – 0:14:30] Erik: Do you know how hard it is to cut tires?
[0:14:30 – 0:14:33] Erik: You were involved in that operation at Clearwater, weren’t you?
[0:14:33 – 0:14:37] Adam: Yeah, but I got the grip strength of a steel belt that’s in there.
[0:14:37 – 0:14:38] Adam: Yeah, that’s true.
[0:14:38 – 0:14:42] Adam: They’re steel-belted radials, so it’s probably not going to happen.
[0:14:42 – 0:14:44] Erik: I think the paint idea is solid.
[0:14:44 – 0:14:50] Adam: Lay out my crappiest hoodie and then get some nice spray paint and spray attire and roll it across.
[0:14:51 – 0:14:53] Erik: You don’t have any shortage of crappy hoodies.
[0:14:53 – 0:14:53] Adam: I have a couple.
[0:14:54 – 0:15:20] Adam: you know laying around that i can probably sacrifice and uh yeah then like you know just kind of elegantly lay a coyote pelt across my shoulders that’s all it’s gonna take is a roadkill yeah i’ll be able to cook in that i’m working for sure it’s not a tuesday i think any you’re not gonna incorporate any blood anywhere oh there’s gonna be a lot of fake blood yeah you need a lot of fake absolutely a lot of fake blood you know coming out the all the orifice
[0:15:21 – 0:15:32] Erik: Yeah, I remember I told on a friend of mine growing up when I was too young to know what the heck was going on because he had this like little secret jar of just like random things that he was collecting.
[0:15:33 – 0:15:35] Erik: And in it were these pills.
[0:15:35 – 0:15:36] Erik: And so I just thought he had pills.
[0:15:37 – 0:15:39] Erik: I was like, hey, just so you know, like such and such.
[0:15:39 – 0:15:42] Erik: I didn’t tell on him, but I told my parents and they were like, what?
[0:15:42 – 0:15:45] Erik: And it turned out that they were just like fake blood pills.
[0:15:45 – 0:15:49] Adam: Oh, I thought they were going to be like one of those ones where you put them in water and it turns into a small dinosaur.
[0:15:49 – 0:15:50] Adam: Oh, yeah, no.
[0:15:51 – 0:15:54] Adam: This little guy, he’s got some sponge pills.
[0:15:54 – 0:15:55] Adam: Yeah, look out.
[0:15:55 – 0:15:56] Adam: Watch out for him.
[0:15:56 – 0:15:57] Adam: He’s a derelict.
[0:15:57 – 0:15:59] Erik: Yeah, he’s constantly disappointed.
[0:15:59 – 0:16:01] Adam: Spending all his paper out money on the pills.
[0:16:01 – 0:16:02] Adam: Always disappointing.
[0:16:03 – 0:16:05] Adam: He probably got them at a Prangie way.
[0:16:05 – 0:16:12] Erik: Probably one of those quarter-operated bubble machines where you just get a little toy that came rolling out.
[0:16:12 – 0:16:16] Erik: I’m sure it was just a little two-pack of blood capsules.
[0:16:16 – 0:16:16] Adam: That’s right.
[0:16:17 – 0:16:21] Erik: Still a little young for the blood capsules, I feel like, at that point.
[0:16:21 – 0:16:22] Adam: Yeah, where do you get a blood capsule?
[0:16:22 – 0:16:25] Adam: I couldn’t even find one in town right now if I wanted, probably.
[0:16:25 – 0:16:26] Adam: I think they made them illegal.
[0:16:26 – 0:16:34] Erik: That’s probably one of the things I miss most about living in Grand Marais is you have to drive so far to get to a Halloween Town USA megastore that they have in all the walls.
[0:16:34 – 0:16:36] Adam: Yeah, well, you were just down in the Twin Ports.
[0:16:36 – 0:16:38] Adam: Did you stop at the Halloween Town megastore?
[0:16:38 – 0:16:39] Erik: No, I didn’t.
[0:16:39 – 0:16:40] Erik: I actually didn’t even see it.
[0:16:40 – 0:16:40] Erik: It’s up there by the Aldi’s.
[0:16:40 – 0:16:44] Erik: But I saw the poor suckers getting Brantleyville set up or whatever.
[0:16:44 – 0:16:44] Adam: What?
[0:16:44 – 0:16:45] Adam: That’s a beautiful thing.
[0:16:45 – 0:16:46] Adam: Yeah, well.
[0:16:46 – 0:16:50] Adam: Holiday cheer is a wonderful aspect of society.
[0:16:51 – 0:16:51] Erik: Yeah, I did.
[0:16:51 – 0:16:53] Adam: Did you do The Haunted Ship, though?
[0:16:53 – 0:16:54] Erik: No.
[0:16:54 – 0:16:57] Erik: I was there for one sole reason, and that was to go to a movie.
[0:16:58 – 0:16:58] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:16:59 – 0:17:01] Erik: And it was backcountry.
[0:17:01 – 0:17:03] Adam: It was backcountry.
[0:17:03 – 0:17:04] Adam: Yeah, they brought it back.
[0:17:04 – 0:17:05] Adam: Yeah, in 3D.
[0:17:05 – 0:17:06] Adam: Yeah, 3D.
[0:17:06 – 0:17:09] Erik: A movie that’s wasted on 3D.
[0:17:09 – 0:17:09] Erik: Yeah.
[0:17:13 – 0:17:15] Adam: Well, all three actors in 3D.
[0:17:15 – 0:17:16] Adam: Can you imagine?
[0:17:16 – 0:17:22] Erik: The five minutes where a bear is actually on screen is menacing and in 3D.
[0:17:23 – 0:17:24] Adam: Holy smokes.
[0:17:24 – 0:17:25] Adam: That’s wild.
[0:17:25 – 0:17:29] Adam: I can’t believe you went and did it in the big screen on IMAX like that.
[0:17:29 – 0:17:30] Erik: That’s wild.
[0:17:30 – 0:17:31] Erik: Wrapped around me.
[0:17:31 – 0:17:33] Erik: All of the plotting…
[0:17:34 – 0:17:57] Adam: 30 minutes of stumbling around with a broken ankle in full ultra screen you can see both sides of the waterfall in stunning detail both the left side and the right side and do you determine the right side of a waterfall like from the looking at it from the bottom or looking at it from the top it’s not clear to me it is definitely one of my questions and oh i have i have a lot of questions
[0:17:57 – 0:17:58] Erik: Lots of questions.
[0:17:58 – 0:18:05] Erik: And no, I did not see, I don’t think that that movie is ever going to see the silver screen on that level.
[0:18:05 – 0:18:07] Erik: Well, not in this country, at least.
[0:18:07 – 0:18:09] Erik: Yeah, no, it probably never did.
[0:18:09 – 0:18:10] Erik: Maybe it got a release.
[0:18:10 – 0:18:10] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:18:11 – 0:18:14] Adam: It’s probably on C-Max up in Tundra Bay.
[0:18:14 – 0:18:15] Erik: C-Max, yeah.
[0:18:15 – 0:18:19] Adam: Yeah, C-Max, it’s only one dimension.
[0:18:19 – 0:18:21] Adam: They have one small speaker.
[0:18:21 – 0:18:22] Adam: One D. Yeah.
[0:18:22 – 0:18:23] Adam: Thanks.
[0:18:24 – 0:18:28] Erik: Yeah, it’s just a metal folding chair in a church basement.
[0:18:29 – 0:18:30] Erik: Pretty good.
[0:18:30 – 0:18:30] Erik: Pretty good, though.
[0:18:30 – 0:18:31] Erik: Pretty neat.
[0:18:31 – 0:18:32] Erik: Immersive.
[0:18:32 – 0:18:34] Erik: The lights are still just bright and on.
[0:18:35 – 0:18:40] Erik: Yeah, no, we’ll talk about backcountry on this week’s TCC.
[0:18:40 – 0:18:43] Erik: We got spooky, or at least we were trying to.
[0:18:43 – 0:18:44] Erik: Yeah.
[0:18:45 – 0:18:47] Adam: Yeah, it’s not exactly like a horror movie.
[0:18:47 – 0:18:49] Erik: Not really.
[0:18:49 – 0:18:51] Adam: But it was a recommendation.
[0:18:51 – 0:18:52] Adam: Yeah.
[0:18:52 – 0:18:55] Adam: We’re trying to do better at following the recommendations.
[0:18:55 – 0:19:02] Adam: Thank you to our Patreons, all of you, including the Patreon or four that recommended Backcountry.
[0:19:02 – 0:19:07] Adam: I feel like it was recommended multiple times, too, which is why I bumped it to the top.
[0:19:07 – 0:19:07] Adam: Yeah.
[0:19:08 – 0:19:10] Adam: Hey, you know, the Patreon’s still a thing.
[0:19:10 – 0:19:22] Adam: If anybody out there feels like it’s worth it to your while, you can go ahead and find the Patreon website for Tumble Home and pitch your pennies into the bucket.
[0:19:22 – 0:19:22] Erik: Vast chasm.
[0:19:23 – 0:19:28] Adam: And then maybe make a recommendation on what you’d like to hear us talk about next.
[0:19:28 – 0:19:31] Adam: We’re always open to recommendations like Backcountry or…
[0:19:33 – 0:19:34] Adam: Killers of the Flower Moon.
[0:19:34 – 0:19:36] Adam: Killers of the Flower Moon, I think, is coming up next.
[0:19:36 – 0:19:37] Adam: Yeah.
[0:19:38 – 0:19:39] Adam: Yeah.
[0:19:39 – 0:19:40] Adam: The Barbie movie.
[0:19:40 – 0:19:42] Adam: I mean, we’re all about it, you know.
[0:19:42 – 0:19:45] Adam: We’re progressive and forward thinkers here on Tomahome.
[0:19:46 – 0:19:55] Adam: But, yeah, I mean, the patrons really, you know, I don’t know if you guys have noticed, but there’s not been one single goddamn ad on this podcast for 240 episodes since.
[0:19:56 – 0:19:58] Adam: And not even a sneaky ad.
[0:19:58 – 0:20:03] Adam: And anything we’ve endorsed, it’s been on our own personal volition.
[0:20:03 – 0:20:08] Erik: I mean, Coghlan’s thrown a few… Coghlan’s is definitely in our back pocket.
[0:20:08 – 0:20:11] Adam: Or we’re in their front pouch?
[0:20:12 – 0:20:13] Adam: I’m not sure.
[0:20:13 – 0:20:16] Erik: We’re in Coghlan’s front pouch, I think is how you would make sense of that.
[0:20:16 – 0:20:18] Adam: We’re in their snakebite kit, for sure.
[0:20:18 – 0:20:20] Adam: And they might have bitten us.
[0:20:21 – 0:20:24] Adam: Yes, we are under the… We’re a proud independent podcast, and
[0:20:25 – 0:20:28] Adam: You know, the servers to host this website ain’t free.
[0:20:29 – 0:20:41] Adam: And so we sure appreciate the people that have, you know, out of the kindness of their heart, joined the Patreon and kicked a few bucks into the project and keep this thing going ad-free forever.
[0:20:42 – 0:20:46] Adam: And it always will be ad-free, even if I have to pay for it out of my own goddamn pocket.
[0:20:47 – 0:20:48] Adam: Enough with the GDs.
[0:20:48 – 0:20:48] Adam: Wow.
[0:20:49 – 0:20:50] Adam: Jesus, buddy.
[0:20:51 – 0:20:54] Erik: I don’t even know what facilitates a loon bleep anymore.
[0:20:54 – 0:20:55] Adam: I don’t think those count.
[0:20:56 – 0:20:56] Erik: It’s legal.
[0:20:57 – 0:21:03] Erik: If you added a damn, or a God in front of it, you couldn’t, but you could just say damn if you wanted.
[0:21:04 – 0:21:04] Adam: Oh, really?
[0:21:04 – 0:21:04] Adam: Yeah.
[0:21:04 – 0:21:06] Erik: Unlike TV and stuff.
[0:21:06 – 0:21:06] Adam: Oh, sure.
[0:21:08 – 0:21:09] Adam: Well, God doesn’t exist.
[0:21:09 – 0:21:11] Adam: You get one F word for a PG-13.
[0:21:11 – 0:21:12] Adam: Really?
[0:21:12 – 0:21:12] Adam: One.
[0:21:13 – 0:21:14] Adam: Use it wisely.
[0:21:14 – 0:21:24] Adam: Well, Backcountry was rated R and there wasn’t one F word in it and barely any fake blood and definitely barely any nudity.
[0:21:25 – 0:21:26] Adam: So why was that one rated R?
[0:21:26 – 0:21:27] Adam: That was a Canadian R, huh?
[0:21:28 – 0:21:31] Erik: Maybe just the scene where he’s completely being eaten by a bear.
[0:21:32 – 0:21:34] Adam: With his dick out.
[0:21:35 – 0:21:38] Adam: I can’t believe the bear just eats his dick like that.
[0:21:38 – 0:21:39] Adam: Yeah.
[0:21:39 – 0:21:39] Adam: All right.
[0:21:40 – 0:21:42] Adam: Well, that’s probably why I forgot about that.
[0:21:42 – 0:21:43] Erik: Not too many spoilers here.
[0:21:44 – 0:21:49] Adam: Well, we’re just saving all the good stuff for the TCC and for our dear Patreons.
[0:21:49 – 0:21:50] Adam: We haven’t spoiled anything.
[0:21:50 – 0:21:51] Adam: We haven’t spoiled anything.
[0:21:51 – 0:21:54] Adam: There’s so much more goodies to get to in that country.
[0:21:54 – 0:21:57] Adam: Well, I, you know, it was pretty good, honestly.
[0:21:57 – 0:22:05] Adam: Overall, it was a pretty good one, so I can’t wait to talk about that after tonight’s spooky episode 240, but an extra special shout-out.
[0:22:06 – 0:22:15] Adam: I don’t feel like we’ve been giving enough shout-outs to the Patreons lately, and we weren’t doing a very good job of doing regular TCCs during the heat of the summer, but
[0:22:15 – 0:22:22] Adam: I think we’re really hitting our stride here in the fall, and we really do appreciate the support because I mean this personally.
[0:22:22 – 0:22:27] Adam: From the bottom of my heart, it means a lot to me that Tumble Home is a proud independent podcast.
[0:22:27 – 0:22:40] Adam: There’s no ads on it and a bunch of nonsense, and it’s only truly possible because the 10 to 14 people that have signed up for the Patreon, they’re making this whole magic happen.
[0:22:40 – 0:22:42] Adam: So the rest of you freeloaders, we appreciate you listening.
[0:22:43 – 0:22:45] Adam: But seriously, what’s a couple bucks a month?
[0:22:45 – 0:22:52] Adam: And you get to listen to the vast catalog of TCCs that is currently out there, 50-plus movie reviews.
[0:22:52 – 0:22:54] Adam: You can just download them all in a day.
[0:22:54 – 0:23:01] Adam: Weird, random, other spooky other stories and random episodes that are only available on the Patreon.
[0:23:03 – 0:23:27] Adam: you know i think it’s worth it so appreciate you anyways um big shout out to all our patrons for real so all right all right getting into the meat of this episode but let it be known if there are any interested advertisers out there we would take them in a second yeah like ben paddle uh trent resner we still want to be your friend you know we’ll take money we’ll sell out in a drop in the drop of the hat and i’ll drop the hat myself
[0:23:28 – 0:23:29] Erik: It just hasn’t presented itself yet.
[0:23:29 – 0:23:30] Adam: Yeah, right.
[0:23:30 – 0:23:32] Adam: The right opportunity to sell out hasn’t presented itself.
[0:23:32 – 0:23:37] Erik: That’s how everybody should look at the world is I just haven’t had the opportunity to sell out yet.
[0:23:38 – 0:23:39] Adam: I’m waiting for the right time to sell out.
[0:23:39 – 0:23:42] Adam: And this hasn’t come around yet in the last six or seven years.
[0:23:43 – 0:23:45] Adam: But, you know, I’m still young.
[0:23:45 – 0:23:46] Adam: Eric’s still young.
[0:23:46 – 0:23:47] Adam: We’re still looking good over here.
[0:23:48 – 0:23:49] Adam: Eric’s hair is looking great.
[0:23:49 – 0:23:50] Adam: We both got nice hats on.
[0:23:50 – 0:23:51] Adam: Yeah.
[0:23:52 – 0:23:54] Adam: You know, we’re just waiting for the right opportunity.
[0:23:54 – 0:24:01] Adam: But until then, thank you very much for allowing us to just do our thing without, you know, condition.
[0:24:02 – 0:24:06] Adam: We got some spooky stories tonight in the spirit of the season.
[0:24:07 – 0:24:16] Adam: And we’re just straight up lifting some content off of the horrible ghouls over at BWCA.com.
[0:24:16 – 0:24:17] Erik: Oh, we are?
[0:24:17 – 0:24:17] Adam: Yeah.
[0:24:17 – 0:24:18] Adam: And then also…
[0:24:19 – 0:24:20] Erik: This is news to me.
[0:24:20 – 0:24:23] Erik: I thought we were just doing another BWGA story.
[0:24:23 – 0:24:33] Adam: Well, then the main story tonight is another story that was published from the Boundary Waters Journal, which we’re just going to read the whole thing.
[0:24:34 – 0:24:36] Adam: And then get Eric’s reaction to it.
[0:24:36 – 0:24:37] Adam: But that’s going to be the finale.
[0:24:38 – 0:24:42] Adam: But I wanted to warm up to it with a couple other spooky stories.
[0:24:42 – 0:24:47] Adam: I was just perusing some threads on strange happenings.
[0:24:48 – 0:24:50] Adam: We’ve done this sort of thing before on the subreddit.
[0:24:51 – 0:24:54] Adam: And I couldn’t help myself.
[0:24:54 – 0:24:55] Adam: I was just feeling spooky.
[0:24:55 – 0:24:57] Adam: I was sitting by the wood stove the other night.
[0:24:59 – 0:25:01] Adam: and just started reading some of these old threads.
[0:25:02 – 0:25:04] Adam: I found a really good thread from 2018, though, Eric.
[0:25:05 – 0:25:12] Adam: We’re going to start there, and I’m just going to read you these things and see what you have to say about this and is it spooky or is it not.
[0:25:12 – 0:25:16] Adam: Maybe you can rate them on a spookiness factor of 1 to 10.
[0:25:16 – 0:25:17] Adam: How do you feel about that?
[0:25:17 – 0:25:18] Erik: Are you okay with this?
[0:25:18 – 0:25:20] Erik: I will choose my own scale.
[0:25:21 – 0:25:22] Adam: You can choose the scale you want.
[0:25:22 – 0:25:24] Adam: I’m not going to box you in at all.
[0:25:25 – 0:25:33] Adam: Next up on the show, horrible ghoul and enemy of Tumble Home, Old Rez from 2018, Zero Boxes of Wine.
[0:25:34 – 0:25:42] Adam: In August of 1985, four of us were camped on the U.S. side above Upper Basswood Falls, just west of Basswood Lake.
[0:25:43 – 0:25:49] Adam: As dusk was gathering, we noticed a solitary canoe approaching us from the Canadian side.
[0:25:50 – 0:25:59] Adam: Two men in their 30s or 40s, no PFDs, approached shore and claimed that they needed to share our campsite as they could find nothing else available.
[0:26:00 – 0:26:01] Adam: No other specifics.
[0:26:02 – 0:26:07] Adam: This site has some high granite rocks and requires parallel parking to unload canoes.
[0:26:08 – 0:26:11] Adam: And as these guys nudged in, we could see their cargo.
[0:26:13 – 0:26:17] Adam: A wooden old milk crate containing some chains and an axe.
[0:26:18 – 0:26:19] Adam: Nothing else.
[0:26:20 – 0:26:21] Adam: No camping gear.
[0:26:21 – 0:26:22] Adam: No fishing gear.
[0:26:24 – 0:26:26] Adam: Without hesitation, I immediately warned them off.
[0:26:27 – 0:26:28] Adam: There would be no camping with us.
[0:26:29 – 0:26:32] Adam: We had seen several open campsites while fishing that evening.
[0:26:33 – 0:26:37] Adam: They tried to forge ahead, but I said no, and I pushed their canoe away from the rocks.
[0:26:38 – 0:26:43] Adam: I was the oldest in our group, two being my youngest brothers, another a young cousin.
[0:26:43 – 0:26:45] Adam: I was taking no chances.
[0:26:46 – 0:26:53] Adam: They cursed us, but headed back exactly from where they came from, passing a couple of open sites on the way.
[0:26:54 – 0:26:59] Adam: Not sure what this is all about and never saw these two again, but it made for a fitful sleeping that night.
[0:27:00 – 0:27:00] Adam: Hmm.
[0:27:01 – 0:27:03] Adam: This was in the 80s?
[0:27:03 – 0:27:04] Adam: 85.
[0:27:04 – 0:27:05] Erik: August of 80.
[0:27:06 – 0:27:07] Erik: These are old spooky stories.
[0:27:08 – 0:27:11] Adam: You’re not getting this kind of stories from the old tumble home threads.
[0:27:11 – 0:27:15] Adam: You got to go deep into the deep web to get these stories, Eric.
[0:27:15 – 0:27:16] Erik: Yeah, that’s pretty spooky.
[0:27:16 – 0:27:17] Erik: What do you think about that?
[0:27:19 – 0:27:23] Erik: Anywhere close to that kind of an experience with somebody else wanting to try and share a campsite.
[0:27:23 – 0:27:25] Adam: What do you think about the cargo?
[0:27:26 – 0:27:31] Adam: A old wooden box with some chains, some chains and an axe.
[0:27:31 – 0:27:32] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:27:32 – 0:27:32] Erik: What does that mean?
[0:27:33 – 0:27:38] Erik: That’s the one part of the story that’s maybe I’m a little incredulous over.
[0:27:39 – 0:27:44] Erik: I’m sure that that’s what he saw, but there’s no way that there was two guys out there camping with just that.
[0:27:45 – 0:27:56] Adam: I like that they came from Canada, went away from the open campsites, went right to this campsite, and then when they shooed off, just went straight back to Canada.
[0:27:56 – 0:27:57] Adam: They cursed us.
[0:27:57 – 0:27:58] Erik: They cursed them.
[0:27:58 – 0:27:59] Erik: I curse you.
[0:27:59 – 0:28:02] Erik: Did they get literally cursed, or were they cursed at?
[0:28:02 – 0:28:02] Erik: I’m not sure.
[0:28:02 – 0:28:04] Erik: Because if they were cursed, then yeah, spook factor is going through the roof here.
[0:28:04 – 0:28:06] Adam: You have to ask old Rez about that one.
[0:28:06 – 0:28:07] Adam: Yeah.
[0:28:07 – 0:28:08] Adam: That’s pretty spooky.
[0:28:08 – 0:28:09] Adam: Not sure what this is.
[0:28:09 – 0:28:10] Erik: What is this under a thread about?
[0:28:10 – 0:28:12] Erik: Just like spooky happenings?
[0:28:12 – 0:28:17] Adam: Yeah, this is just like paranormal slash spooky Halloween stories from the Boundary Waters.
[0:28:17 – 0:28:20] Adam: But this was all like happening in the winter of 2018.
[0:28:20 – 0:28:27] Adam: It was just bored BoundaryWaters.com spooky story chat.
[0:28:27 – 0:28:37] Adam: But this is where I got the somebody in here was like, you got to read the mystery of the Bell Lake, which is from the Boundary Waters Journal 2000.
[0:28:38 – 0:28:39] Erik: How did you find that?
[0:28:39 – 0:28:40] Adam: Well, it must not have been.
[0:28:41 – 0:28:42] Adam: How did I find this?
[0:28:42 – 0:28:45] Adam: Anyways, somebody in the thread was like talking about this.
[0:28:46 – 0:28:47] Adam: You got to check this story out.
[0:28:47 – 0:28:48] Adam: It’s real spooky.
[0:28:49 – 0:28:50] Adam: And I’d never heard of this one either.
[0:28:50 – 0:28:56] Adam: So there’s another BWJ article that everybody supposedly knows about that I had never heard of.
[0:28:56 – 0:28:59] Adam: And then a few people in there were like, can you post the link to it or whatever?
[0:28:59 – 0:29:01] Adam: They don’t have a link to it.
[0:29:01 – 0:29:08] Adam: But eventually I did find somebody in a different thread posted like a Google Docs, Google Drive.
[0:29:09 – 0:29:31] Adam: scan of it scan of it of a pdf which i followed that link and got it so i got all the i just took a bunch of screen grabs off of that so i got the whole story of the mystery of bell lake which is all off this thread but you know there’s a bunch of fun stories on the thread too and i’m just picking through a couple i mean literally we’re talking hundreds you know you’ve been on bwca.com it’s a
[0:29:36 – 0:29:58] Adam: they’re 90 nut cases but there’s a couple uh a couple gems in the rough over there yeah including that story from old sociopath old res horrible nasty phantom of a person on the internet so i love the story though and i’m scared of the chains and definitely of scared of the axe next up on the show
[0:30:01 – 0:30:07] Adam: Horrible ghoul and definitely a huge enemy of the tumble homes, Anuke.
[0:30:09 – 0:30:10] Adam: Get bent.
[0:30:11 – 0:30:15] Adam: Last August, we took the Granite River route with our first night on Clove.
[0:30:16 – 0:30:17] Adam: There are three sites on Clove.
[0:30:18 – 0:30:22] Adam: The one by the portage was occupied, and the Sandy Beach one was open.
[0:30:22 – 0:30:23] Adam: You know the one, Eric
[0:30:33 – 0:30:37] Adam: This camp is on a point with a large rock formation making the spine of the point.
[0:30:38 – 0:30:48] Adam: Looking the campsite over after we had been there a while, I started noticing large rocks that were placed in holes in the ground about camp.
[0:30:48 – 0:30:53] Adam: These rocks were large, up to a foot and a half long, so they were pretty heavy.
[0:30:54 – 0:30:57] Adam: I thought it was kind of weird due to the quantity of the rocks.
[0:30:58 – 0:31:05] Adam: I figured some bored kids did it, but they would have had to be pretty OCD to fill in so many holes.
[0:31:06 – 0:31:14] Adam: As we traveled around camp throughout the day and explored the surrounding woods looking for firewood, I noticed large rocks everywhere.
[0:31:14 – 0:31:18] Adam: These rocks were in places that made no sense for someone to be.
[0:31:18 – 0:31:22] Adam: Very dense foliage and hard to move, much less carry a rock to.
[0:31:23 – 0:31:28] Adam: The rocks had been freshly moved, as some were still on top of pine boughs or fresh grass.
[0:31:30 – 0:31:34] Adam: The rest of the day went off without any weirdness, and we went to sleep at about nine or so.
[0:31:34 – 0:31:43] Adam: Around midnight, I was awoken by a loud cry coming from what sounded like up the ridge, possibly the direction of Larch.
[0:31:44 – 0:31:49] Adam: It started out real low, ended high, and made my hair stand up.
[0:31:49 – 0:31:51] Adam: I was awake for sure.
[0:31:52 – 0:31:59] Adam: The next thing I heard was a loud, gravelly shout that sounded like, and sounded so close.
[0:32:00 – 0:32:11] Adam: I know sound can travel, but it seemed the sounds were not coming from very far away, possibly coming from just over the ridge of the site, closer than any other campsites.
[0:32:13 – 0:32:15] Adam: Then the rocks started banging.
[0:32:15 – 0:32:18] Adam: Something banged the rocks together for almost an hour.
[0:32:18 – 0:32:20] Adam: It was pretty unsettling.
[0:32:20 – 0:32:21] Erik: What?
[0:32:21 – 0:32:28] Adam: The logical part of me assumed someone on Larch had a bear visit their camp, and all they had was rocks to bang together to scare it away.
[0:32:28 – 0:32:39] Adam: The imaginative part of me made up all kinds of scenarios, from a crazy OCD rock-wielding madman to a large upright hairy creature that shall remain nameless at this time.
[0:32:42 – 0:32:44] Erik: Was he with anybody else or this person out there?
[0:32:45 – 0:32:47] Erik: Did it sound like they were camping with others?
[0:32:47 – 0:32:49] Erik: I’d like to know what their side of the story is.
[0:32:49 – 0:32:52] Adam: They said we chose a site and stayed at.
[0:32:53 – 0:32:56] Adam: Didn’t really say a whole lot about their group size.
[0:32:56 – 0:32:58] Erik: So these were just rocks moved around?
[0:32:58 – 0:33:04] Adam: It just sounded like a bunch of big rocks had been recently moved around in the campsite and nearby while they were looking for wood.
[0:33:04 – 0:33:08] Adam: They noticed a lot of other rocks that had been recently moved and stacked around.
[0:33:09 – 0:33:15] Erik: I could see the first part with the rocks just filling holes if somebody was there for a while and trying to just make it easier to walk around.
[0:33:15 – 0:33:19] Adam: I guess, but then a rock and a hole, that’s just making something to trip over.
[0:33:19 – 0:33:24] Erik: I’d rather have a hole than a… Well, if they’re filling in holes, I guess, is what I feel like he was trying to describe.
[0:33:24 – 0:33:29] Adam: Yeah, but then it was the part of them being on top of fresh pine boughs and fresh grass.
[0:33:29 – 0:33:29] Adam: Yeah.
[0:33:30 – 0:33:32] Adam: They made it seem like the rocks had just been put there.
[0:33:32 – 0:33:33] Erik: Right.
[0:33:33 – 0:33:35] Erik: The stuff in the woods doesn’t make any sense at all.
[0:33:35 – 0:33:41] Erik: But I can see maybe somebody being like, oh, I would like it if I stopped tripping in this hole right around camp here.
[0:33:41 – 0:33:44] Erik: So I’m going to try to fill it in with a little rock to make it flatter.
[0:33:44 – 0:33:47] Erik: But yeah, I don’t know why you would find like freshly moved rocks.
[0:33:47 – 0:33:51] Erik: Clove doesn’t seem like a kind of place where a lot of people are base camping, though.
[0:33:51 – 0:33:53] Erik: Well, there’s not really a campsite.
[0:33:53 – 0:33:55] Erik: There is sort of a campsite kind of close.
[0:33:57 – 0:33:59] Erik: to the other side of that ridge.
[0:34:00 – 0:34:01] Adam: On Larch there.
[0:34:01 – 0:34:03] Adam: But it’s not that close either.
[0:34:03 – 0:34:06] Adam: Right, and they made it seem like the get was like right over the hill.
[0:34:07 – 0:34:08] Erik: But also that area is…
[0:34:09 – 0:34:10] Erik: When did this…
[0:34:10 – 0:34:12] Erik: When was this occurrence?
[0:34:12 – 0:34:14] Adam: This was reported in 2018.
[0:34:14 – 0:34:15] Adam: It does not say.
[0:34:15 – 0:34:17] Adam: It just said last August.
[0:34:17 – 0:34:18] Adam: So I’m going to say August of 2017.
[0:34:18 – 0:34:19] Adam: So yeah.
[0:34:20 – 0:34:25] Adam: This was reported at 1.10 a.m. by a horrible ghoul and madman, Anuke.
[0:34:25 – 0:34:26] Adam: Okay.
[0:34:26 – 0:34:32] Erik: But I’m thinking that that area had been burned probably even sooner.
[0:34:32 – 0:34:39] Erik: The last time I was out there, I felt like it was after that, and it felt pretty lacking of vegetation.
[0:34:39 – 0:34:39] Erik: So no big trees.
[0:34:40 – 0:34:41] Erik: So I bet you it was probably.
[0:34:42 – 0:34:47] Erik: That is more explainable than the freshly moved around big rocks in the woods.
[0:34:47 – 0:34:47] Erik: That’s creepy.
[0:34:48 – 0:34:48] Erik: Yeah.
[0:34:48 – 0:34:49] Erik: That’s spooky.
[0:34:49 – 0:34:49] Erik: I’ll give that.
[0:34:50 – 0:34:51] Adam: That one’s pretty spooky.
[0:34:51 – 0:34:53] Adam: How many spooks are you giving this story?
[0:34:53 – 0:34:57] Erik: I’ll give it S-P-O out of S-P-O-O.
[0:34:57 – 0:34:58] Erik: All right.
[0:34:58 – 0:34:59] Adam: It’s a Spock.
[0:34:59 – 0:35:00] Adam: It’s a Spoo.
[0:35:03 – 0:35:03] Adam: All right.
[0:35:03 – 0:35:09] Adam: Next up on the show, a horrible monster and demon, B-C-T.
[0:35:10 – 0:35:11] Adam: Zero boxes of wine.
[0:35:12 – 0:35:13] Adam: This did not happen.
[0:35:13 – 0:35:16] Adam: All right, I’m going to say I just threw this one in.
[0:35:16 – 0:35:23] Adam: It’s a short one, but this did not happen in the BWCA, but it definitely qualifies as unsettling.
[0:35:24 – 0:35:25] Adam: Here we go from BCT.
[0:35:27 – 0:35:30] Adam: A friend and I were climbing in southeastern Utah.
[0:35:31 – 0:35:37] Adam: The formation we were heading to required a 60-mile drive down 4×4 roads, followed by a strenuous hike.
[0:35:38 – 0:35:40] Adam: We opted to camp near the truck, though.
[0:35:41 – 0:35:45] Adam: We pitched our tent in the dark, ate a cold dinner, and went to bed.
[0:35:46 – 0:35:48] Adam: Hank had mentioned there were pictographs nearby.
[0:35:50 – 0:35:54] Adam: Sometime in the night, I awoke to a very clear human footsteps around the tent.
[0:35:55 – 0:35:59] Adam: They walked around the tent once and then proceeded off into the night.
[0:36:00 – 0:36:03] Adam: In the morning, we found we had camped directly under the pictograph panel.
[0:36:04 – 0:36:04] Adam: The end.
[0:36:06 – 0:36:18] Adam: I like this story, obviously, because of the pictograph element, and I am a big fan of Utah, and I can picture exactly the kind of spot these guys were camped in, and I love it.
[0:36:18 – 0:36:19] Adam: I love everything about this story.
[0:36:19 – 0:36:20] Adam: What do you think, Eric?
[0:36:20 – 0:36:21] Erik: Yeah, I like that as well.
[0:36:21 – 0:36:24] Erik: No sign of footsteps in the dirt whatsoever.
[0:36:25 – 0:36:26] Adam: Nothing was detected in the morning, apparently.
[0:36:27 – 0:36:28] Adam: They just heard it in the night.
[0:36:29 – 0:36:30] Adam: And sure, that could have been a lot of things.
[0:36:31 – 0:36:34] Adam: But I’m a big fan of that, and it spooks the hell out of me.
[0:36:35 – 0:36:37] Adam: Just hearing somebody just imagine that.
[0:36:37 – 0:36:39] Adam: You’re camped, or you come in in the night.
[0:36:39 – 0:36:41] Adam: You’re not really sure of your actual surroundings.
[0:36:41 – 0:36:46] Adam: You think you’re maybe in a spooky spot, and then you hear distinct sounds.
[0:36:48 – 0:36:49] Adam: And I like this one.
[0:36:49 – 0:36:51] Adam: It wasn’t like they just heard something in the distance.
[0:36:51 – 0:36:54] Adam: It was they, as they put it…
[0:36:57 – 0:37:01] Adam: They walked around the tent once and then proceeded into the night.
[0:37:02 – 0:37:05] Adam: So they did a full circuit of the tent.
[0:37:05 – 0:37:06] Adam: Very freaky.
[0:37:07 – 0:37:11] Adam: And they had a cold dinner, too, so it wasn’t like there was a bunch of bacon scraps laying around.
[0:37:11 – 0:37:13] Adam: I don’t know what cold dinner means.
[0:37:14 – 0:37:18] Adam: It sounds better than a warm lunch, but I don’t like a cold dinner.
[0:37:19 – 0:37:22] Adam: So that is unsettling to me, too, that they had to eat cold dinner.
[0:37:23 – 0:37:24] Erik: That’s the spookiest part of it.
[0:37:24 – 0:37:27] Adam: That might be the worst part about the whole story.
[0:37:28 – 0:37:30] Adam: Cold goddamn dinner, BCT.
[0:37:30 – 0:37:32] Adam: What are you doing out there in Utah?
[0:37:33 – 0:37:41] Adam: Anyways, I don’t know why this is on a BWCA website, but I like the story, and it was short, so I added it into the hopper.
[0:37:43 – 0:37:47] Adam: Eric is visibly spooked, and Arrow the Husky is pacing.
[0:37:47 – 0:37:48] Adam: Pacing.
[0:37:48 – 0:37:49] Adam: Hackles are up.
[0:37:49 – 0:37:51] Adam: Trevor has fled the shed.
[0:37:51 – 0:37:52] Erik: He’s so scared.
[0:37:52 – 0:37:53] Erik: Trevor’s been gone for days.
[0:37:53 – 0:37:54] Adam: I don’t know what happened.
[0:37:54 – 0:37:59] Adam: We brought a candelabra with us out here, and the candles just went out.
[0:38:00 – 0:38:01] Adam: The heater, though, it’s still running.
[0:38:03 – 0:38:08] Adam: The vit beer was delicious and is keeping me well hydrated.
[0:38:08 – 0:38:12] Adam: Next up, from the McCluskey Brothers, Syrup and Spices.
[0:38:13 – 0:38:24] Adam: It’s a barley, wheat, oats, and maple syrup with conifer needles, fenugreek, lemon balm, and yeast concoction that is known as the maple saison.
[0:38:25 – 0:38:27] Adam: This is the one with the weird birds.
[0:38:27 – 0:38:28] Adam: Yeah.
[0:38:28 – 0:38:31] Adam: The can artwork on these, it’s a 13 out of 10.
[0:38:32 – 0:38:32] Adam: Solid.
[0:38:33 – 0:38:34] Adam: Hop-free brewing.
[0:38:34 – 0:38:35] Adam: Hop-free.
[0:38:35 – 0:38:35] Adam: Who needs them?
[0:38:36 – 0:38:37] Adam: I’m sick of these hops.
[0:38:37 – 0:38:38] Erik: Yeah.
[0:38:41 – 0:38:41] Adam: I’m cold.
[0:38:42 – 0:38:43] Adam: I’m scared.
[0:38:44 – 0:38:46] Adam: I’ve had too many hops in my life.
[0:38:46 – 0:38:50] Adam: Thank you to Miranda and Dakota.
[0:38:50 – 0:38:51] Adam: Bless your hearts.
[0:38:52 – 0:38:58] Adam: Next up on the spooktacular here, the 2023 spooktacular, episode 240.
[0:38:59 – 0:39:08] Adam: Next up on the show, horrible enemy of Tumble Home and absolute monster and zombie fiend, John Woo.
[0:39:09 – 0:39:12] Adam: A couple years ago, we were camped on the north end.
[0:39:12 – 0:39:16] Adam: Sorry, zero boxes of wine for Janu, you son of a bitch.
[0:39:17 – 0:39:19] Adam: Next up on the show, Janu.
[0:39:19 – 0:39:24] Adam: A couple years ago, we were camped on the north end of Alice Lake in a small bay.
[0:39:25 – 0:39:30] Adam: When we retired to our tents, it was dead calm, not a ripple on the water.
[0:39:32 – 0:39:36] Adam: About an hour later, waves suddenly rolled up on the sand beach landing.
[0:39:37 – 0:39:45] Adam: The waves weren’t big by any means, but big enough to hear them roll up on the sand and then recede and crash into the next incoming wave.
[0:39:46 – 0:39:55] Adam: At first I thought an animal was swimming by, but there’s no way an animal could have created a wake that would produce waves of that size and duration.
[0:39:57 – 0:39:58] Adam: And then dead calm returned.
[0:40:00 – 0:40:00] Adam: Very weird.
[0:40:02 – 0:40:03] Erik: Yeah, that is weird.
[0:40:03 – 0:40:05] Adam: Have you ever had something like this happen?
[0:40:06 – 0:40:13] Erik: Yeah, I’ve told this story on numerous occasions, but mine’s much more explainable because it was on the ocean where there’s boats and all kinds of things moving around.
[0:40:13 – 0:40:14] Adam: This is on Atlas.
[0:40:14 – 0:40:17] Adam: There’s no motorboats to be had.
[0:40:17 – 0:40:18] Erik: Yeah, middle of the night.
[0:40:18 – 0:40:20] Erik: Who knows what kind of waves are bouncing around.
[0:40:21 – 0:40:21] Adam: Big lake.
[0:40:22 – 0:40:23] Adam: Alice is a big round lake.
[0:40:24 – 0:40:25] Adam: But still, no, I don’t know.
[0:40:25 – 0:40:26] Erik: But freaky.
[0:40:26 – 0:40:27] Adam: That is freaky, yeah.
[0:40:28 – 0:40:32] Adam: This one I think disturbs me more than almost any of these stories tonight.
[0:40:32 – 0:40:33] Adam: The waves?
[0:40:33 – 0:40:34] Adam: Just strange waves.
[0:40:34 – 0:40:34] Adam: Yeah.
[0:40:35 – 0:40:37] Adam: And then not the fact that there are strange waves because…
[0:40:38 – 0:40:47] Adam: certainly winds are always changing, but that it just went from calm to waves to back to calm with no, uh, no wave or, uh, no wind present really.
[0:40:47 – 0:40:47] Adam: Right.
[0:40:48 – 0:40:51] Adam: No boats detected and no animals detected.
[0:40:51 – 0:40:51] Erik: Yeah.
[0:40:52 – 0:40:53] Erik: Even a canoe, like just paddling.
[0:40:53 – 0:41:02] Adam: Even a big canoe really cruising by could barely make a wave that would be detectable as a crashing on sand kind of wave.
[0:41:02 – 0:41:02] Adam: Yeah.
[0:41:03 – 0:41:03] Adam: Um,
[0:41:03 – 0:41:08] Adam: You know, I think I told the story when Natalie and I were on Koishui Lake this summer.
[0:41:08 – 0:41:13] Adam: It was dead calm when we went to bed, but there was a good chance of storms that night.
[0:41:13 – 0:41:16] Adam: And then I woke up and I heard thunder in the distance.
[0:41:16 – 0:41:20] Adam: And so I sort of like, you know, I like a storm as much as the next guy.
[0:41:21 – 0:41:28] Adam: Sort of sat up and listened, you know, and kind of the approaching storm on a summer night is always a magical experience.
[0:41:29 – 0:41:34] Adam: And then, yeah, all of a sudden, it was just like from dead calm, like big waves crashing up on that sand beach on Kuwishui 7.
[0:41:34 – 0:41:34] Adam: Yeah.
[0:41:35 – 0:41:38] Adam: It’s like, oh, boy, this is going to be a real to-do tonight.
[0:41:38 – 0:41:39] Adam: This is going to be a hell of a storm.
[0:41:43 – 0:41:51] Adam: And the storm did eventually come in, but it wasn’t nearly as windy as, like, I thought it was going to be based on the sound of those waves just kicking out of nowhere.
[0:41:52 – 0:41:52] Adam: Yeah.
[0:41:52 – 0:41:58] Adam: Yeah, it was an eerie thought, you know, sitting there, dead calm, all of a sudden these big waves start coming into the beach.
[0:41:58 – 0:42:00] Adam: You’re like, oh, we’re in for one, you know.
[0:42:01 – 0:42:06] Adam: And it was a pretty good thunderstorm, but it wasn’t like a super windy one that was like thrashing the tent around or anything.
[0:42:06 – 0:42:12] Adam: But that was one where it was like you could hear the waves crashing on the beach, and you’re like, oh, we’re in some trouble.
[0:42:12 – 0:42:15] Adam: But that was all because of you could hear the thunder coming.
[0:42:15 – 0:42:19] Adam: You knew there was a chance of storms, and the storm did come through.
[0:42:20 – 0:42:23] Adam: This one, no discernible source of these waves.
[0:42:24 – 0:42:27] Adam: And because it’s also because it’s on Atlas.
[0:42:27 – 0:42:28] Erik: It’s unsettling.
[0:42:28 – 0:42:30] Erik: Were you hoping for an orb reference, maybe, when you saw Alice Lake?
[0:42:30 – 0:42:31] Adam: Well, who knows?
[0:42:31 – 0:42:33] Adam: I don’t think it even needs to be referenced, you know?
[0:42:33 – 0:42:37] Adam: I think it just goes without saying that Alice is a weird lake.
[0:42:37 – 0:42:38] Adam: Yeah.
[0:42:38 – 0:42:42] Adam: And so just the mention of it being on Alice already, like, had me on edge.
[0:42:43 – 0:42:46] Adam: And I love this story, so I wanted to read it.
[0:42:46 – 0:42:47] Adam: It’s unsettling.
[0:42:47 – 0:42:50] Adam: Thanks for the story, you son of a bitch.
[0:42:51 – 0:42:51] Adam: John who?
[0:42:51 – 0:42:51] Adam: Um…
[0:42:57 – 0:43:03] Adam: I got one more mini story, and then I think it’s time to get into the creepy story from Bell.
[0:43:04 – 0:43:11] Adam: This one comes from Horrible Ghoul and Maniac A1202021.
[0:43:11 – 0:43:15] Adam: So this is a thread that was going on for a long time, I guess.
[0:43:16 – 0:43:16] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:43:16 – 0:43:17] Adam: A lot of people have stories to tell.
[0:43:18 – 0:43:22] Adam: The creepiest experience for me was just an eerie moment.
[0:43:22 – 0:43:24] Adam: Very eerie.
[0:43:25 – 0:43:29] Adam: I was paddling on Gillis near sunset and looking for a campsite.
[0:43:29 – 0:43:32] Adam: We were in deep water, but not too far from shore.
[0:43:33 – 0:43:35] Adam: The lake was calm and really clear.
[0:43:35 – 0:43:42] Adam: I think we were in about 60 feet of water and I look down and I see this huge boulder that just came up right beneath the surface.
[0:43:43 – 0:43:51] Adam: Just seeing that massive boulder that was hidden just out of sight a few feet away from me was eerie and made me feel small.
[0:43:51 – 0:43:57] Adam: That image of the massive boulder fading into the depths have stuck with me ever since the end.
[0:43:58 – 0:44:02] Adam: This one, the waves one is creepy, but this one’s real life.
[0:44:02 – 0:44:10] Adam: You can’t dispute the fact that seeing something big underwater makes you feel like something’s wrong in your insides.
[0:44:10 – 0:44:17] Erik: Yeah, no, that one provides a visceral response of previous experiences with crap like that.
[0:44:18 – 0:44:19] Adam: I don’t like that at all.
[0:44:19 – 0:44:21] Adam: Big old logs and boulders in the middle of the lake.
[0:44:22 – 0:44:22] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:44:23 – 0:44:26] Adam: That one makes me feel bad, like real bad on the insides.
[0:44:28 – 0:44:29] Adam: You know what makes me feel good, though?
[0:44:29 – 0:44:34] Adam: This is Maypal Saison from the Airbrary on the Isthmus.
[0:44:34 – 0:44:35] Erik: Airbrary.
[0:44:35 – 0:44:36] Adam: Airbrary.
[0:44:38 – 0:44:46] Adam: Hops can go take a leap into the deeps of Gillis, but this beer can go take a leap into my mouth, and it’s shallow and beautiful.
[0:44:46 – 0:44:47] Adam: I love this beer.
[0:44:47 – 0:44:49] Adam: I’m going to give this one a 13 out of 10.
[0:44:50 – 0:44:50] Adam: Nice, solid.
[0:44:53 – 0:44:55] Adam: All right, Eric, you ready to get really spooked?
[0:44:56 – 0:44:57] Adam: I’ve saved the best for last.
[0:44:57 – 0:44:58] Erik: Yeah, I’m excited.
[0:44:58 – 0:45:01] Erik: I’m mostly excited to see if I… You’re like, should I read this?
[0:45:01 – 0:45:02] Adam: Because I sent you the link first.
[0:45:02 – 0:45:10] Adam: I was like, what about this for a main story for the next episode?
[0:45:10 – 0:45:12] Adam: And then you’re like, should I read it?
[0:45:12 – 0:45:14] Adam: I was like, actually, no, don’t read it.
[0:45:14 – 0:45:17] Adam: I’ll read it to you live on the air, and then we’ll see what you think about it.
[0:45:18 – 0:45:24] Adam: This is from the Boundary Waters Journal Spring 2000 edition by…
[0:45:26 – 0:45:27] Adam: This seems like a really made-up name.
[0:45:28 – 0:45:32] Adam: This is called The Bell Lake Mystery by Roy Santoro.
[0:45:33 – 0:45:35] Adam: Absolutely sounds like a fake name.
[0:45:35 – 0:45:39] Adam: This is a pen name that you can only dream up in a nightmare.
[0:45:39 – 0:45:42] Erik: Well, maybe that speaks to the experience that was happening.
[0:45:42 – 0:45:42] Adam: I can’t wait.
[0:45:42 – 0:45:44] Adam: Yeah, I can’t believe this is the real guy’s name.
[0:45:45 – 0:45:46] Adam: This is from 2000.
[0:45:48 – 0:45:49] Adam: There’s some pictures involved.
[0:45:50 – 0:46:03] Adam: Like I said, I have basically screen grabs of a PDF that some stranger, bless your heart, whoever you are, posted into a message that I’d done on supernatural and spooky occurrences in the Boundary Waters
[0:46:03 – 0:46:04] Adam: A non-maniac?
[0:46:05 – 0:46:12] Adam: This one is a true friend of Tomahome and has earned 18 boxes of wine for Roy Santoro.
[0:46:15 – 0:46:18] Adam: Arrow the Huskies in agreement and vigorously wagging her tail.
[0:46:20 – 0:46:26] Adam: So I’m just going to read this, but I’m not going to try and read it straight through like the last Boundary Waters Journal article.
[0:46:26 – 0:46:31] Adam: It’s about as long, but I’m going to try and take some breaks and get your feedback on this as we go.
[0:46:31 – 0:46:32] Adam: Okay, Eric?
[0:46:32 – 0:46:53] Adam: okay this was published in 2000 this was published in 2000 in the uh as i said in the spring 2000 episode if anybody has the spring 2000 boundary waters journal it starts on page 59 yeah read along the bell lake mystery you may want to pause this just read the whole article and then come back to us um
[0:46:55 – 0:46:58] Adam: I don’t know why, but it has a subheader on top.
[0:46:59 – 0:47:04] Adam: Very curious formatting that says, leave something for the imagination in italics.
[0:47:05 – 0:47:05] Adam: Okay.
[0:47:05 – 0:47:07] Adam: I don’t know what that font is.
[0:47:07 – 0:47:07] Adam: I will.
[0:47:07 – 0:47:11] Adam: That font might be the scariest choice of this whole episode.
[0:47:11 – 0:47:13] Adam: All right.
[0:47:13 – 0:47:14] Adam: Here we go, Roy.
[0:47:14 – 0:47:14] Adam: Give it to us.
[0:47:17 – 0:47:34] Adam: I do not believe in ghosts, goblins, or supernatural beings, but I have no explanation for what happened to my son and me on the night of Friday, July 30th, 1999, along the shores of Bell Lake in Canada’s Quetico Provincial Park.
[0:47:35 – 0:47:40] Adam: Now, I can just go ahead and say right away that Eric and I have both been to Bell Lake at least twice.
[0:47:40 – 0:47:42] Adam: I’ve been there twice with you.
[0:47:43 – 0:47:45] Adam: Have you been there extra times than that?
[0:47:45 – 0:47:45] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:47:45 – 0:47:48] Adam: It’s on the approach to the man chain.
[0:47:48 – 0:47:48] Adam: Right.
[0:47:48 – 0:47:53] Adam: If anybody’s trying to locate this on the map, it’s between Slate and Other Man.
[0:47:54 – 0:48:14] Adam: um in the busk bid it’s like bit busk bell and bingo lakes yeah this is the middle there this was the first lake that we realized we were going to have to break through ice to get out of cuetico yeah we came it was about this time of year yeah maybe a couple more days later but yeah we were trying to get out by halloween
[0:48:14 – 0:48:16] Erik: Well, this was on the trip with Liz and Paid.
[0:48:16 – 0:48:17] Erik: Oh.
[0:48:17 – 0:48:18] Erik: Where we literally had to.
[0:48:18 – 0:48:19] Adam: You actually had to break it.
[0:48:20 – 0:48:24] Erik: Yeah, I climbed up to the front of the canoe and tried smashing it with a large log.
[0:48:24 – 0:48:24] Adam: Okay, yeah.
[0:48:25 – 0:48:30] Adam: No, like on our trip in 2011, I feel like in these areas we had to like skim ice.
[0:48:30 – 0:48:32] Adam: You know, we were basically just paddling through it.
[0:48:32 – 0:48:34] Adam: I don’t feel like we ever had to like bust it.
[0:48:34 – 0:48:54] Erik: no no yeah we had to move we weren’t whacking it with a paddle like it’s a black bear between the eyes we were moving all the people and gear to the back of the canoe so the front end got up on top of the ice and then you would smash down with the canoe that’s exciting much more sustainable to the body than trying to physically break ice right on
[0:48:56 – 0:49:03] Adam: I’ve been backpacking for 20 years, traveling alone and in groups through Alaska, Washington, Utah, Minnesota, and Canada.
[0:49:04 – 0:49:07] Adam: I’ve been to the Quetico eight times, to all parts of the park.
[0:49:07 – 0:49:14] Adam: I’ve had bears, moose, fox, and just about every other creature under the sun pass by my tent in the night.
[0:49:15 – 0:49:20] Adam: But this night, the sound passing by my tent was unlike anything I have ever heard.
[0:49:21 – 0:49:22] Adam: My son Mike was 18.
[0:49:23 – 0:49:26] Adam: Our trip that July would be our last before he headed off to college.
[0:49:27 – 0:49:29] Adam: He has traveled with me since he was 12.
[0:49:30 – 0:49:31] Adam: We put in early our first day.
[0:49:32 – 0:49:33] Adam: The weather was outstanding.
[0:49:34 – 0:49:37] Adam: There was a light wind at our face and partly sunny skies.
[0:49:37 – 0:49:38] Adam: The water had a slight chop.
[0:49:39 – 0:49:41] Adam: It was warm, maybe in the upper 80s.
[0:49:42 – 0:49:46] Adam: When we checked in at the ranger station, I made all the usual inquiries.
[0:49:47 – 0:49:49] Adam: We could make a campfire, but had to be careful.
[0:49:49 – 0:49:53] Adam: A powerful storm over the July 4th holiday had knocked down a lot of trees.
[0:49:54 – 0:49:58] Adam: A hot dry spell was now starting to dry them out, creating quite a fire hazard.
[0:49:59 – 0:50:01] Adam: I asked if there was any bear activity.
[0:50:01 – 0:50:06] Adam: The ranger on duty said the only activity reported had been in the northern part of the park.
[0:50:07 – 0:50:10] Adam: Since bears like berries, I also asked how the berry crop was this year.
[0:50:10 – 0:50:12] Adam: We were told the crop…
[0:50:13 – 0:50:16] Adam: Hold on, we’ve got to move to the next page, Eric.
[0:50:16 – 0:50:20] Adam: We were told the crop was good because of all the rain in the spring and early summer.
[0:50:21 – 0:50:25] Adam: That meant the bears would have plenty to eat, cutting the risk they would have coming looking for our food.
[0:50:27 – 0:50:33] Adam: We paddled through Cache Bay towards Silver Falls and made the portage, stopping to take in the spectacular view.
[0:50:34 – 0:50:38] Adam: I’m going to interject and just say I love the term made the portage.
[0:50:38 – 0:50:38] Erik: Made it?
[0:50:38 – 0:50:40] Adam: We made the portage.
[0:50:40 – 0:50:41] Adam: Without being degrotted?
[0:50:42 – 0:50:43] Adam: No degrods.
[0:50:43 – 0:50:50] Adam: We ran into a couple of groups heading out and listened to them, listened to some of their stories of adventure before moving on.
[0:50:50 – 0:50:51] Adam: It was the usual banter.
[0:50:53 – 0:50:56] Adam: They had caught enough fish to make them happy, and had enjoyed their journey.
[0:50:57 – 0:51:03] Adam: They hadn’t seen any moose or bear, but had enjoyed taking in the antics of the loons that inhabit the lakes.
[0:51:04 – 0:51:10] Adam: We were hoping for a repeat performance from the moose we had seen the year before at the end of this man lake.
[0:51:10 – 0:51:15] Adam: It is always an awesome sight to see an animal of such beauty on its home turf in the wild.
[0:51:16 – 0:51:26] Adam: We paddled without incident through a couple of unnamed lakes, made the portages, and worked our way through Fran and got into Bell about mid-afternoon.
[0:51:27 – 0:51:30] Adam: We made nice time and decided to camp for the night, even though it was a little early for us.
[0:51:31 – 0:51:37] Adam: We planned to go swimming and beat the heat and soothe some of the fly and mosquito bites that covered our legs.
[0:51:37 – 0:51:40] Adam: The flies seemed especially bad this trip.
[0:51:42 – 0:51:46] Adam: We were going to camp on the same site we had visited the year before.
[0:51:47 – 0:51:51] Adam: It’s located on the western end of the lake, on the north side.
[0:51:51 – 0:51:53] Adam: It is a beautiful spot.
[0:51:54 – 0:51:56] Adam: There’s water on two sides with a small bay.
[0:51:56 – 0:51:59] Adam: The other two sides are covered with heavy brush and tree.
[0:52:00 – 0:52:09] Adam: Traveling through them would be very difficult, and from the looks of things, the only time anyone had ventured too far back was to gather wood and answer nature’s call.
[0:52:10 – 0:52:14] Adam: The nearest lake to the north or south are a long ways to the deep forest.
[0:52:15 – 0:52:20] Adam: There are three or four other campsites marked on Bell Lake, but they seem deserted this night.
[0:52:21 – 0:52:24] Adam: There is also no way to walk from one site to another because of the heavy brush.
[0:52:28 – 0:52:29] Adam: So this sets the stage.
[0:52:30 – 0:52:30] Adam: Yeah.
[0:52:30 – 0:52:32] Adam: They feel like they’re on the lake by themselves.
[0:52:32 – 0:52:41] Erik: Some light foreshadowing to seeming like what he’s going to hear is going to maybe be a sound that a human could have made.
[0:52:42 – 0:52:44] Adam: Yeah, and where could it have come from?
[0:52:44 – 0:52:47] Adam: They’re the only ones on this lake, Eric.
[0:52:48 – 0:52:50] Adam: We go swimming about 4.30.
[0:52:50 – 0:52:52] Adam: The lake feels like bath water.
[0:52:52 – 0:52:56] Adam: We are surprised how warm it is, even deep down by our feet.
[0:52:57 – 0:52:59] Adam: We eat a nice dinner around 5.30.
[0:52:59 – 0:53:02] Adam: We fish for a while offshore, but only catch a few small bass.
[0:53:03 – 0:53:07] Adam: I tell my son things will pick up tomorrow when we hit the bays from the canoe.
[0:53:08 – 0:53:15] Adam: We make a small fire and pass some time tossing rocks into the water and debating the great things you talk about only in the wilderness.
[0:53:16 – 0:53:21] Adam: We have been in the campsite for a good five hours now and have not seen or heard another soul.
[0:53:22 – 0:53:27] Adam: A few ducks and loons occasionally stop by, put on a show, and then move on.
[0:53:29 – 0:53:37] Adam: Around 8 o’clock, we see a group of Boy Scouts led by a couple of dads passing by heading to the campsite in Otherman Lake.
[0:53:39 – 0:53:39] Erik: Okay.
[0:53:40 – 0:53:40] Erik: You knew there were dads?
[0:53:41 – 0:53:43] Adam: I guess the dads recognize dads, dude.
[0:53:43 – 0:53:45] Erik: Yeah, that’s probably true.
[0:53:47 – 0:53:50] Adam: They’ve been paddling hard on a day trip to Silver Falls.
[0:53:51 – 0:53:56] Adam: The leader of the group says he seems to have underestimated the time and effort needed to make the trip.
[0:53:56 – 0:54:00] Adam: The group looks tired, but presses on, hoping to get back before dark.
[0:54:01 – 0:54:02] Adam: I don’t envy them.
[0:54:02 – 0:54:14] Adam: I know the feeling of weary arms and a broken spirit as you pull your paddle through the water at the end of a long day, anticipating the moment you can flop down in the ground and stretch out in your sleeping bag.
[0:54:16 – 0:54:19] Adam: We smile as we hear them crash into the portage leading into Bit Lake.
[0:54:20 – 0:54:25] Adam: We can hear the familiar sound of four metal canoes banging into the rocks as they go ashore.
[0:54:25 – 0:54:29] Adam: They are the last humans we see or hear that night.
[0:54:30 – 0:54:37] Adam: A short time after they pass by, we decide to kill our fire and head into the tent to play a little wilderness gin rummy.
[0:54:39 – 0:54:45] Adam: The sun has now dropped below the tree line, and the light of the day is slowly melting as darkness takes control.
[0:54:46 – 0:54:47] Adam: I look to the sky.
[0:54:48 – 0:54:50] Adam: There are just a few clouds, a good sign.
[0:54:51 – 0:54:52] Adam: There is no rain on the way.
[0:54:54 – 0:54:57] Adam: Everything has been perfect on this first day.
[0:54:58 – 0:55:04] Adam: We made good progress, took a swim, had a nice meal, and are now safely tucked into our tent.
[0:55:05 – 0:55:09] Adam: If we can stay awake long enough, we plan to go out later and check out the stars.
[0:55:10 – 0:55:12] Adam: There’s supposed to be a nice meteor shower nearby.
[0:55:13 – 0:55:20] Adam: And if you look close enough, you can sometimes spot the Mir space station passing by.
[0:55:20 – 0:55:24] Adam: Do you know how high above Earth the Mir space station?
[0:55:25 – 0:55:25] Adam: The Mir.
[0:55:25 – 0:55:25] Adam: Remember that one?
[0:55:25 – 0:55:27] Erik: They’re better than that one, haven’t they?
[0:55:27 – 0:55:29] Adam: That one’s the size of a school bus.
[0:55:29 – 0:55:29] Adam: They do.
[0:55:30 – 0:55:50] Adam: projectile that one into the ocean somewhere i’m pretty sure the mirror is no longer up there yeah that one was only like five miles above the planet i believe yeah it’s flying up there with the 747s yeah you gotta watch out 747s twa 800 veer left that’s what they hit actually when they left long island yeah
[0:55:51 – 0:56:14] Adam: chunk of the mirror touch wings we play cards for 20 minutes it is about 8 45 p.m it is dusk there is no sound except for an occasional loon the wind is calm we have a flashlight hanging from the ceiling of the tent to light our card game only a thin screen separates us from the mosquitoes buzzing outside
[0:56:15 – 0:56:17] Adam: We are both holding cards in our hands.
[0:56:17 – 0:56:19] Adam: Neither one of us is talking.
[0:56:20 – 0:56:21] Adam: My son is sitting up.
[0:56:22 – 0:56:25] Adam: I am lying on my side waiting for him to draw a card.
[0:56:26 – 0:56:33] Adam: He has been staring at the pile for a good 15 to 20 seconds, obviously deciding some intricate strategy.
[0:56:34 – 0:56:37] Adam: Suddenly our peace and quiet is shattered.
[0:56:38 – 0:56:42] Adam: Without warning, we hear what sounds like someone running past our tent.
[0:56:43 – 0:56:46] Adam: I hear 10 to 12 steps, not racing, but moving quickly.
[0:56:47 – 0:56:51] Adam: My son says he hears five steps and agrees they are unmistakably human.
[0:56:52 – 0:56:54] Adam: They come from nowhere and lead to nowhere.
[0:56:55 – 0:56:57] Adam: There is no sound before the steps.
[0:56:58 – 0:56:59] Adam: None after.
[0:56:59 – 0:57:05] Adam: There’s no rustling of bushes, no sounds of a boat coming ashore, no gust of wind, nothing.
[0:57:06 – 0:57:13] Adam: Just the footsteps, as if someone or something dropped from the sky, ran across the earth and floated away again.
[0:57:14 – 0:57:18] Adam: The entire incident lasted three, maybe four seconds.
[0:57:20 – 0:57:22] Adam: My heart immediately begins to race.
[0:57:22 – 0:57:24] Adam: My breathing becomes very shallow.
[0:57:25 – 0:57:28] Adam: It was so absolutely quiet until the sound shattered the silence.
[0:57:29 – 0:57:32] Adam: It was so totally out of place that we were both startled.
[0:57:33 – 0:57:35] Adam: My son and I immediately look at each other.
[0:57:39 – 0:57:41] Adam: And I say, what the hell was that?
[0:57:43 – 0:57:46] Adam: His reaction, it sounded like somebody went running by our tent.
[0:57:48 – 0:57:51] Adam: Our tent is facing the water and the sound travels from right to left.
[0:57:52 – 0:58:00] Adam: On the right is a small bay, so at first I think someone has come ashore to check out the campsite, but we heard no boat approach or come ashore.
[0:58:01 – 0:58:03] Adam: I rally from the shock and grab a flashlight.
[0:58:03 – 0:58:05] Adam: I quickly unzip the tent and get out.
[0:58:06 – 0:58:08] Adam: Approximately 10 seconds have gone by.
[0:58:09 – 0:58:12] Adam: I look off to the left in the direction the sound was traveling in and I see nothing.
[0:58:13 – 0:58:17] Adam: The light is fading, but I can still see enough to get a decent look around.
[0:58:18 – 0:58:23] Adam: I head off into the brush in both directions and see no evidence of anything passing through.
[0:58:24 – 0:58:25] Adam: When I stand still, I hear nothing.
[0:58:26 – 0:58:28] Adam: My son yells out, Do you see anything?
[0:58:28 – 0:58:30] Adam: No, nothing, I reply.
[0:58:31 – 0:58:34] Adam: I decide to check down by the water for signs of a boat.
[0:58:35 – 0:58:36] Adam: There is no boat.
[0:58:36 – 0:58:39] Adam: The lake is dead calm, clear as glass.
[0:58:40 – 0:58:43] Adam: There are no signs of a canoe wake or foam from a passing boat.
[0:58:44 – 0:58:46] Adam: My son has now joined me outside the tent.
[0:58:46 – 0:58:54] Adam: We discussed what we heard and both agree the sound came from the water off to our right and passed into the woods along the shore on our left.
[0:58:55 – 0:59:00] Adam: We have both run track and cross country in our days and are convinced the sound we heard was a person running.
[0:59:01 – 0:59:05] Adam: The odd thing is the sound came from nowhere and led to nowhere.
[0:59:06 – 0:59:08] Adam: He asked if it could have been an animal.
[0:59:09 – 0:59:11] Adam: It seems very unlikely.
[0:59:11 – 0:59:13] Adam: I have heard the sounds of four-legged animals on this move.
[0:59:14 – 0:59:17] Adam: There’s no way this was any animal I have ever heard.
[0:59:18 – 0:59:23] Adam: If an animal had approached with all the brush and water around our tent, we would have surely heard something.
[0:59:26 – 0:59:28] Adam: We had not been talking much during our card game.
[0:59:28 – 0:59:33] Adam: The ground in the area is very hard, and it is easy to hear things walking around outside our tent.
[0:59:34 – 0:59:35] Adam: We check our packs.
[0:59:36 – 0:59:37] Adam: Nothing has been disturbed.
[0:59:37 – 0:59:39] Adam: I look to see if my wallet is missing.
[0:59:39 – 0:59:40] Adam: It’s untouched.
[0:59:40 – 0:59:44] Adam: Our boat, life jackets, and paddles are exactly where we left them.
[0:59:46 – 0:59:53] Adam: I look to see if there are any tracks on the ground, but it is too dark to really see if there are any clues to reveal the identity of our visitor.
[0:59:54 – 0:59:58] Adam: We go over what we heard again and agree the sound was someone or something running.
[0:59:59 – 1:00:02] Adam: My son even recreates the sound by running past the tent.
[1:00:03 – 1:00:11] Adam: The scenario makes even less sense then, since whatever moved through would have made some noise coming out of the water or moving through the heavy brush behind us.
[1:00:13 – 1:00:17] Adam: We finally decide to write it off as just one of those things that happens in the wild.
[1:00:18 – 1:00:22] Adam: It has been a long day, and perhaps our imaginations are just getting away from us.
[1:00:23 – 1:00:25] Adam: Your mind can play tricks on you.
[1:00:26 – 1:00:30] Adam: Too much time in the city can deaden your senses to the sounds of nature.
[1:00:31 – 1:00:33] Adam: We agree, it must have been an animal.
[1:00:34 – 1:00:37] Adam: There could be no other reasonable explanation.
[1:00:39 – 1:01:07] Adam: So we go back to playing cards By now it is dark The sun has given up for the day Maybe 15 or 20 minutes later when I hear the whispering It sounds close Maybe 20 or 30 feet away I can hear it but I am unable to make out any words My son starts to talk but I motion with my hand for him to be quiet I make a motion with my hand that someone is talking It sounds very human
[1:01:08 – 1:01:13] Adam: He does not hear the whispering, but as I get up, we both hear something run off in the woods behind our tent.
[1:01:15 – 1:01:19] Adam: I reach for the large knife I carry on all my trips, and I grab a flashlight.
[1:01:19 – 1:01:22] Adam: He asks, You’re not going out there.
[1:01:22 – 1:01:26] Adam: I simply say, I think we need to find out who this is.
[1:01:26 – 1:01:29] Erik: That’s a movie moment there.
[1:01:32 – 1:01:39] Adam: It is now dark, dark, and I head off with my flashlight and knife in hand in the direction of the mysterious sound.
[1:01:39 – 1:01:40] Adam: I yell out, Hello!
[1:01:41 – 1:01:42] Erik: Is anyone there?
[1:01:44 – 1:01:47] Adam: I wait for an answer or sound that might reveal anything.
[1:01:48 – 1:01:53] Adam: I call several more times as I move through the brush around the back of our tent.
[1:01:54 – 1:01:56] Adam: My son flashes the light in my direction.
[1:01:56 – 1:01:57] Adam: You see anything?
[1:01:57 – 1:01:57] Adam: Yes?
[1:01:58 – 1:02:00] Adam: No, I reply.
[1:02:01 – 1:02:09] Adam: I stop for what seems like an eternity and listen, hoping to hear the familiar sound of a deer or moose moving through the brush, but there is nothing.
[1:02:10 – 1:02:18] Adam: There’s no wind, no fallen branch, no loons or ducks flapping along the water to account for any of what we have heard.
[1:02:19 – 1:02:23] Adam: I throw several large rocks out into the woods, hoping to stir up the visitor.
[1:02:25 – 1:02:27] Adam: The rocks tear through the foliage and strike the ground.
[1:02:28 – 1:02:30] Adam: There is no response from the woods.
[1:02:30 – 1:02:32] Adam: At this point, I honestly don’t know what to think.
[1:02:33 – 1:02:35] Adam: One of the rocks should have stirred up some response.
[1:02:37 – 1:02:39] Adam: I conduct a thorough search all around the campsite.
[1:02:39 – 1:02:40] Adam: Nothing is missing.
[1:02:41 – 1:02:45] Adam: Our backpacks, oars, boat, and other items have not been disturbed.
[1:02:46 – 1:02:50] Adam: Surely, if it were someone up to no good, something would have been touched.
[1:02:51 – 1:02:52] Adam: Could it be a prank?
[1:02:53 – 1:02:55] Adam: Maybe a bunch of kids running around in the dark?
[1:02:56 – 1:02:57] Adam: If so, where do they come from?
[1:02:57 – 1:02:59] Adam: This lake appeared to be deserted.
[1:02:59 – 1:03:06] Adam: How do they get into our camp and then disappear without tipping off their approach or making enough noise to reveal their departure?
[1:03:08 – 1:03:10] Adam: We try to flash our lights across the lake.
[1:03:10 – 1:03:11] Adam: It is about a quarter mile.
[1:03:12 – 1:03:18] Adam: There is simply nothing out there to account for any of what we experienced.
[1:03:20 – 1:03:24] Adam: My senses tell me there is someone or something out there.
[1:03:24 – 1:03:27] Adam: My brain tells me it is not a monster or a ghost.
[1:03:28 – 1:03:31] Adam: But what is it and why is it hanging around our camp?
[1:03:31 – 1:03:33] Adam: My son asks what we should do.
[1:03:35 – 1:03:38] Adam: I vividly remember saying, I do not like this.
[1:03:38 – 1:03:39] Adam: Something is wrong here.
[1:03:40 – 1:03:43] Adam: I don’t know what, but this does not feel right.
[1:03:44 – 1:03:45] Adam: I think maybe we should leave.
[1:03:47 – 1:03:49] Adam: I seriously consider packing up and moving out.
[1:03:49 – 1:03:52] Adam: At this point, I am concerned that someone is hanging around our camp.
[1:03:53 – 1:03:58] Adam: I’m convinced it’s not a bear, moose, deer, or any other animal you’d expect to encounter.
[1:03:59 – 1:04:02] Adam: Whatever this is, it is not an animal.
[1:04:04 – 1:04:11] Adam: However, it is now dark and picking up camp, portaging out of the lake, and trying to find another campsite would not be much fun.
[1:04:11 – 1:04:16] Adam: There is not enough moonlight to make this trip, and I have done night paddles before.
[1:04:17 – 1:04:21] Adam: However, my son is not, and I’m worried that portaging in the dark would not be a good idea.
[1:04:21 – 1:04:25] Adam: The last thing we needed was a broken or twisted ankle to make things worse.
[1:04:26 – 1:04:27] Adam: If there were more light, I would have left.
[1:04:29 – 1:04:35] Adam: We hang outside the tent for a few more minutes, double-check our equipment, then go back into the tent.
[1:04:36 – 1:04:39] Adam: Everything seems way too quiet all of a sudden.
[1:04:39 – 1:04:41] Adam: The crickets around our tent even stop singing.
[1:04:41 – 1:04:48] Adam: I take that as a bad sign, but also figure, with all the commotion at our campsite, they had good reason to stop.
[1:04:49 – 1:04:57] Adam: When we get settled back inside, one cricket starts up again, then a few more, until things start to return to normal, and I take that as a good sign.
[1:04:58 – 1:05:04] Adam: And try to think back now to remember if the insects had stopped singing before each incident and cannot remember now.
[1:05:05 – 1:05:08] Adam: We play cards for another hour and finally decide to go to sleep.
[1:05:08 – 1:05:13] Adam: I listen for several minutes, straining to hear if the visitor will return.
[1:05:14 – 1:05:16] Adam: I hear a branch stir in the wind.
[1:05:17 – 1:05:20] Adam: Something falls from a tree, perhaps a pine cone.
[1:05:21 – 1:05:23] Adam: A squirrel chatters as an enemy approaches.
[1:05:24 – 1:05:26] Adam: There is no sign of the visitor.
[1:05:27 – 1:05:29] Adam: At some point, I simply fall asleep.
[1:05:30 – 1:05:36] Adam: My son gets up once in the night to answer nature’s call and admits he didn’t go too far from the tent to do it.
[1:05:36 – 1:05:39] Adam: We both sleep pretty much through the night with no further interruptions.
[1:05:41 – 1:05:47] Adam: When morning comes, I go deep into the woods behind our tent to search for any evidence of what may have happened the night before.
[1:05:47 – 1:05:49] Adam: There are all sorts of tracks in the mud here and there.
[1:05:50 – 1:05:51] Adam: Some are human.
[1:05:51 – 1:05:52] Adam: Some are animal.
[1:05:53 – 1:05:56] Adam: But nothing looks really fresh or provides the missing piece to our puzzle.
[1:05:58 – 1:06:00] Adam: The brush reveals no evidence of anything passing by.
[1:06:01 – 1:06:06] Adam: The ground around our tent has nothing but what appear to be human footprints.
[1:06:07 – 1:06:10] Adam: All of them seem to match the patterns of the shoes and sandals we are wearing.
[1:06:12 – 1:06:15] Adam: What was this strange visitor?
[1:06:15 – 1:06:23] Adam: The sound was too loud, the footsteps too heavy for it to be a squirrel or any of the smaller animals that visit a campsite.
[1:06:24 – 1:06:26] Adam: It definitely had two feet and was moving quickly.
[1:06:28 – 1:06:31] Adam: To this day, both of us are sure it was not an animal.
[1:06:31 – 1:06:34] Adam: We both believe it was somebody running by our tent.
[1:06:34 – 1:06:36] Adam: But who and why?
[1:06:38 – 1:06:42] Adam: My son and I still search for the answer to what happened to us that night of July 30th, 1999, along Bell Lake.
[1:07:05 – 1:07:06] Erik: It’s well written.
[1:07:06 – 1:07:07] Adam: It’s very well written.
[1:07:07 – 1:07:12] Adam: It’s like very… Let’s get the name of the author again.
[1:07:12 – 1:07:16] Adam: I got to go back a couple pages here.
[1:07:16 – 1:07:17] Erik: Very cinematic.
[1:07:17 – 1:07:20] Adam: Roy Santoro, if that is your real name.
[1:07:21 – 1:07:24] Adam: The Bell Lake Mystery from Boundary Waters Journal.
[1:07:26 – 1:07:27] Adam: Spring 2000.
[1:07:27 – 1:07:28] Adam: Yeah.
[1:07:29 – 1:07:30] Adam: Right after the blowdown…
[1:07:31 – 1:07:41] Erik: You can tell it happened to him because of just how much he covers his tracks in terms of basically everything I would have done in that scenario.
[1:07:41 – 1:07:41] Adam: Right, right.
[1:07:42 – 1:07:44] Adam: Like having his son recreate the sounds.
[1:07:44 – 1:07:44] Adam: Yeah.
[1:07:44 – 1:07:46] Adam: He even ran by the tent.
[1:07:46 – 1:07:47] Adam: Yeah.
[1:07:47 – 1:07:48] Erik: They’re both track athletes.
[1:07:49 – 1:07:49] Erik: Yeah.
[1:07:49 – 1:07:51] Adam: It was definitely not an animal.
[1:07:52 – 1:07:54] Adam: It was definitely something on two feet.
[1:07:54 – 1:07:55] Adam: The whispering.
[1:07:55 – 1:07:57] Adam: And then the whispering, too.
[1:07:57 – 1:07:58] Adam: That’s where it really gets creepy.
[1:07:58 – 1:08:00] Erik: But only he heard the whispering?
[1:08:00 – 1:08:00] Erik: Yeah.
[1:08:01 – 1:08:02] Adam: Right.
[1:08:03 – 1:08:09] Adam: I would say like they were creeped out by the footsteps and then the whispering was probably their imagination or his imagination.
[1:08:09 – 1:08:13] Erik: But then they also did hear, they both heard something run off a second time.
[1:08:13 – 1:08:14] Adam: Right.
[1:08:14 – 1:08:18] Erik: Yeah, no, I don’t know how you would fall asleep after that.
[1:08:18 – 1:08:24] Adam: Yeah, and then they both just kept playing gin rummy and then eventually fell asleep and nothing really happened.
[1:08:25 – 1:08:26] Adam: I’ve been through Bell Lake twice.
[1:08:26 – 1:08:29] Adam: I never got any creeps from that lake.
[1:08:29 – 1:08:36] Adam: We did see some other people when you and me and Natalie and Brother Andrew went through there on our man-chain trip.
[1:08:36 – 1:08:43] Adam: There was a group camp, but it was on the south side, closer to Slate or Fran.
[1:08:43 – 1:08:44] Adam: Right when we got in there.
[1:08:44 – 1:08:45] Adam: The first campsite.
[1:08:45 – 1:08:48] Adam: I don’t even remember seeing this campsite.
[1:08:48 – 1:08:51] Adam: And I guess we would have went by pretty close to it.
[1:08:51 – 1:08:55] Adam: But yeah, I never really got any ill feelings from Bell Lake.
[1:08:55 – 1:09:00] Adam: But it’s kind of neat that I’ve gone through there twice and once in each direction.
[1:09:03 – 1:09:04] Adam: But, yeah, I never stayed there.
[1:09:04 – 1:09:09] Adam: I never felt anything odd on the portages going in or out of Bell.
[1:09:09 – 1:09:17] Adam: Yeah, I mean, it was just neat reading this story, knowing that it’s a pretty remote place out there in the Quetico.
[1:09:17 – 1:09:17] Adam: Yeah.
[1:09:18 – 1:09:20] Adam: Even though it’s just an entrance to the man chain, but…
[1:09:21 – 1:09:27] Adam: Not many people get there and that we’ve both been there, you know, and there’s another one of those where I go, oh, this is a pretty fun story.
[1:09:28 – 1:09:28] Adam: Yeah.
[1:09:28 – 1:09:29] Adam: Roy Santaro.
[1:09:29 – 1:09:30] Erik: Yeah.
[1:09:30 – 1:09:32] Erik: I still don’t know how it could have just been a person now too.
[1:09:33 – 1:09:35] Adam: Well, yeah, there’s no way somebody just hiked in there.
[1:09:35 – 1:09:36] Adam: Like some of those…
[1:09:37 – 1:09:42] Adam: We’ve read this in the past where it’s like we woke up and there was just somebody with a flashlight standing in our campsite and then they wandered off.
[1:09:42 – 1:09:43] Adam: Yeah.
[1:09:43 – 1:09:46] Adam: And it’s like, well, yeah, but there’s a lot of those campsites in the BWCA.
[1:09:46 – 1:09:47] Adam: They’re all connected.
[1:09:47 – 1:09:48] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[1:09:48 – 1:09:49] Adam: By old trails or whatever.
[1:09:49 – 1:09:51] Erik: Yeah, especially those ones on Caribou.
[1:09:51 – 1:09:52] Adam: Exactly.
[1:09:52 – 1:09:54] Adam: Those are easy to get to without a boat.
[1:09:54 – 1:09:58] Adam: You can get to those without even… You can’t get to the north side of Bell Lake without a canoe.
[1:09:58 – 1:09:59] Adam: No.
[1:09:59 – 1:09:59] Adam: You just can’t.
[1:10:00 – 1:10:02] Adam: I mean, you could, but you cannot.
[1:10:02 – 1:10:02] Erik: Yeah, not…
[1:10:03 – 1:10:08] Erik: not like without running up to the tent and then screaming for help.
[1:10:08 – 1:10:08] Erik: Right.
[1:10:08 – 1:10:12] Erik: Because you’re so horribly lost, not just out there, you know?
[1:10:13 – 1:10:13] Erik: Yeah.
[1:10:14 – 1:10:14] Erik: Yeah.
[1:10:15 – 1:10:18] Erik: But yeah, they did a really good job of making it as creepy as possible too.
[1:10:19 – 1:10:25] Adam: Yeah, I mean, I really enjoyed reading it just to myself, and I also just enjoyed reading it out loud to you.
[1:10:25 – 1:10:26] Adam: That was a lot of fun.
[1:10:28 – 1:10:30] Adam: But it was very well written.
[1:10:31 – 1:10:31] Adam: Believable.
[1:10:32 – 1:10:32] Adam: Pretty believable.
[1:10:32 – 1:10:34] Adam: It gave me the creeps the whole time.
[1:10:34 – 1:10:36] Erik: I believe that they heard it, that’s for sure.
[1:10:36 – 1:10:37] Erik: I don’t believe it was like…
[1:10:38 – 1:10:41] Adam: And they’re admittedly a skeptic.
[1:10:41 – 1:10:43] Adam: There’s no such thing as ghouls.
[1:10:43 – 1:10:49] Adam: They didn’t try and chalk it up to being like, it’s old voyagers or First Nation or whatever.
[1:10:49 – 1:10:50] Adam: We didn’t hear banging of drums and chanting.
[1:10:50 – 1:10:52] Adam: We just heard running footsteps.
[1:10:56 – 1:10:59] Erik: Yeah, it’s kind of wild how close to the actual blowdown event this happened.
[1:10:59 – 1:11:01] Erik: This was just weeks after it.
[1:11:01 – 1:11:01] Erik: Yeah.
[1:11:02 – 1:11:06] Adam: And this also is very close to the tornado that eventually went through there years later.
[1:11:06 – 1:11:07] Adam: Yeah, that’s right.
[1:11:07 – 1:11:08] Adam: Maybe it’s some sort of power spot.
[1:11:09 – 1:11:09] Erik: Maybe.
[1:11:10 – 1:11:11] Adam: Or a portal.
[1:11:12 – 1:11:12] Erik: Maybe it’s a portal.
[1:11:13 – 1:11:14] Erik: Yeah.
[1:11:14 – 1:11:16] Adam: But it also just could have been a snowshoe hare.
[1:11:16 – 1:11:17] Erik: In the simulation.
[1:11:18 – 1:11:21] Adam: I know they said it was definitely not an animal, but…
[1:11:22 – 1:11:26] Adam: The only thing I can think of is that it was a snowshoe hare.
[1:11:26 – 1:11:29] Adam: I remember being on Crab, and we’re like, what the hell is that?
[1:11:30 – 1:11:34] Adam: Something running right at us, and it just was two snowshoe hares running.
[1:11:35 – 1:11:40] Adam: Those big old feet on them little guys can make a lot of noise, especially on a very still and calm night.
[1:11:41 – 1:12:10] Adam: well and then the way that they just disappeared too that with no trace it’s like it had to have been something smaller that could have made the big noise but also gotten away with no trace right when we heard the snowshoe hares it was if we hadn’t seen that if we’d been in a tent play in general i mean heard that i would have been freaked out oh yeah it was just that we were sitting out by the fire and watched them run by that we were like we were sitting there like what the hell is that here comes yeah we both had our lights on and here they come running through and i was like oh it’s snowshoe hare
[1:12:11 – 1:12:12] Erik: Yeah, and then just like that, they were gone.
[1:12:12 – 1:12:13] Erik: And then they’re gone.
[1:12:13 – 1:12:14] Erik: They’re very fast.
[1:12:14 – 1:12:17] Erik: It’s not like you heard them going off into the distance for a while.
[1:12:17 – 1:12:21] Adam: Right, and then you only heard it on the approach, and then all of a sudden, they were gone.
[1:12:22 – 1:12:32] Adam: I just remembered, because that just happened to us earlier this year, this immediately came to mind of what can make a big noise but also leave a little trace like that.
[1:12:32 – 1:12:32] Erik: Yeah.
[1:12:33 – 1:12:35] Erik: And be absolutely silent beforehand and after.
[1:12:35 – 1:12:36] Erik: It’s not like we heard them coming.
[1:12:37 – 1:12:37] Adam: Right.
[1:12:37 – 1:12:38] Adam: It was just like, here they are.
[1:12:38 – 1:12:39] Erik: It was just like, oh, there it is.
[1:12:40 – 1:12:41] Erik: And then what?
[1:12:41 – 1:12:42] Erik: Now they’re gone.
[1:12:42 – 1:12:43] Erik: Wow.
[1:12:43 – 1:12:44] Adam: Yeah.
[1:12:44 – 1:12:48] Adam: And surprising how much sound a snowshoe hare’s foot can make.
[1:12:48 – 1:12:49] Adam: Yeah.
[1:12:49 – 1:12:52] Adam: And I could see how if you’re just in the middle of a game of gin rummy.
[1:12:54 – 1:12:56] Adam: Yeah, they’re running on all fours.
[1:12:56 – 1:12:59] Adam: I mean, I’ve heard of stories where snowshoe hares can run on two feet.
[1:13:00 – 1:13:01] Adam: Sure.
[1:13:01 – 1:13:03] Erik: Or if there’s a couple of them, it might have sounded like.
[1:13:03 – 1:13:06] Adam: Yeah, have you got the reverberations of two hares chasing each other?
[1:13:06 – 1:13:09] Adam: It could have just heard like two foot running by you.
[1:13:09 – 1:13:10] Erik: Yeah.
[1:13:10 – 1:13:13] Adam: That’s the only reasonable explanation I have for this.
[1:13:13 – 1:13:14] Erik: Really?
[1:13:14 – 1:13:15] Erik: Yeah, it is.
[1:13:16 – 1:13:19] Adam: And this also happened to Natalie and I on Caribou, south of Poplar.
[1:13:20 – 1:13:22] Adam: That was also the middle of summer.
[1:13:24 – 1:13:26] Adam: I guess it would be classified as Caribou 1.
[1:13:27 – 1:13:32] Adam: It’s a pretty nice campsite, and I remember the same exact thing, sitting there by the fire, and I’m like, what the hell is that?
[1:13:32 – 1:13:33] Adam: And we looked over.
[1:13:34 – 1:13:35] Adam: A couple times we’re like, what is that?
[1:13:35 – 1:13:38] Adam: And then finally we looked over and saw like a hare running by.
[1:13:38 – 1:13:39] Adam: Yeah.
[1:13:39 – 1:13:41] Adam: And I was like, oh, it’s freaking snowshoe hares.
[1:13:42 – 1:13:42] Erik: Right.
[1:13:43 – 1:13:47] Adam: So it’s one of those things where they’re way louder than you would think a small critter could be.
[1:13:48 – 1:13:53] Adam: But also sneaky enough where they don’t like leave any evidence behind or whatever.
[1:13:54 – 1:13:59] Adam: It’s the only thing that makes sense, but this guy seems like he would know that.
[1:14:00 – 1:14:09] Adam: Roy Santero would have known what a snowshoe hare was like, and they were very adamant it sounded like two big feet running by him.
[1:14:09 – 1:14:10] Erik: Yeah, I know.
[1:14:10 – 1:14:11] Adam: But then gone.
[1:14:12 – 1:14:13] Adam: I love the story.
[1:14:13 – 1:14:19] Erik: Yeah, I mean, if it wasn’t for the whispering, it probably would be even more like, yeah, probably just like a crazy, like perfect.
[1:14:19 – 1:14:20] Adam: That’s the whispering is the creepiest part.
[1:14:20 – 1:14:21] Adam: Like, I don’t know.
[1:14:21 – 1:14:22] Adam: Yeah, okay.
[1:14:22 – 1:14:26] Adam: You can chalk up the footsteps going by your tent real close to like, well, that could have been an animal.
[1:14:27 – 1:14:27] Adam: It had to have been, right?
[1:14:28 – 1:14:29] Erik: There’s no way I would.
[1:14:29 – 1:14:30] Erik: It’s an animal.
[1:14:30 – 1:14:31] Erik: If I heard whispering.
[1:14:31 – 1:14:32] Adam: Yeah, but if you just…
[1:14:33 – 1:14:36] Erik: I don’t care if we break an ankle.
[1:14:36 – 1:14:37] Erik: We’re portaging the hell out of here.
[1:14:37 – 1:14:38] Adam: Get the hell out.
[1:14:38 – 1:14:47] Adam: The fact that this guy had been on so many Quetico trips and had been out there camping with his son since he was 12, and they’re like, I think we should leave.
[1:14:49 – 1:14:54] Adam: I’ve never in my life been in a situation where I was like, I think we should leave this campsite in the middle of the night.
[1:14:54 – 1:14:56] Adam: I’m that spooked.
[1:14:56 – 1:14:59] Adam: That, I think, is the scariest part of the whole tale.
[1:15:00 – 1:15:11] Erik: I think if it was me and it was just what I thought sounded like somebody running by me, I’d be able to convince myself this is really creepy and really weird, but I’d be able to calm down enough.
[1:15:12 – 1:15:19] Erik: But if halfway through both of those experiences, I… More whispering and then more running sounds in the back of your campsite?
[1:15:19 – 1:15:20] Adam: Yeah, I’d be like, okay.
[1:15:20 – 1:15:22] Adam: Somebody is messing with us, and that’s what he says.
[1:15:22 – 1:15:24] Adam: I feel like somebody is in here messing with us.
[1:15:25 – 1:15:26] Erik: Yeah.
[1:15:26 – 1:15:26] Erik: Yeah.
[1:15:27 – 1:15:29] Erik: And then, yeah, eventually I just fell asleep.
[1:15:30 – 1:15:30] UNKNOWN: What?
[1:15:31 – 1:15:32] Erik: I would need, yeah.
[1:15:32 – 1:15:36] Erik: I’d be sucking down the entire bag of wine.
[1:15:36 – 1:15:38] Adam: They didn’t even say they had wine.
[1:15:38 – 1:15:40] Erik: No, but that would be the only way I’d be able to stay.
[1:15:41 – 1:15:42] Erik: Those poor ghouls.
[1:15:42 – 1:15:43] Erik: I don’t even care.
[1:15:43 – 1:15:43] Erik: Yeah.
[1:15:44 – 1:15:47] Erik: Even if it means I just get hacked to bits in a super…
[1:15:48 – 1:16:09] Adam: yeah i don’t like it yeah at least i could calm my mind somehow but yeah no that’s uh so you know the the person who recommended the story on this thread and i’m glad i eventually found a full copy of the story without having to like go over to the boundary waters journal headquarters and try and buy some out of their back catalog
[1:16:09 – 1:16:10] Erik: Yeah, I think you can.
[1:16:10 – 1:16:18] Adam: I don’t know how you get your hands on a 2000 episode or issue of BWJ, but maybe they have it at the Grammarly Library.
[1:16:18 – 1:16:18] Adam: Maybe they don’t.
[1:16:18 – 1:16:19] Adam: I don’t know.
[1:16:19 – 1:16:21] Erik: Yeah, I’m sure you can get a hold of one, but I don’t think…
[1:16:21 – 1:16:23] Adam: If anybody wants it, I have the link.
[1:16:23 – 1:16:24] Adam: I do have the link.
[1:16:24 – 1:16:33] Adam: Maybe I’ll post it on the Discord after this episode posts for the PDF of that story if anybody else wants to read it to somebody they love.
[1:16:34 – 1:16:47] Adam: or hate around halloween yeah uh i think it was a fun or you know save that one down you could grab it and then screen grab it and read on your next boundary waters adventure while you’re in the tent playing gin rummy
[1:16:47 – 1:16:50] Erik: What was the italicized subheader thing in the beginning again?
[1:16:50 – 1:16:51] Erik: Leaving something for the imagination.
[1:16:51 – 1:16:53] Adam: Yeah, leaving something for the imagination.
[1:16:55 – 1:16:58] Adam: So it certainly does get, that’s the scariest part of it.
[1:16:58 – 1:17:00] Adam: It’s like the unknown, you know, what could have been.
[1:17:00 – 1:17:05] Adam: And the scariest part is all the things you can conjure in your mind about that.
[1:17:07 – 1:17:13] Adam: So that’s the spooky one for this year’s Halloween episode of Tumble Home.
[1:17:13 – 1:17:14] Adam: Are you spooked?
[1:17:14 – 1:17:18] Adam: I think even at one point reading it, I got a few goosebumps reading that.
[1:17:18 – 1:17:19] Erik: Yeah, I could feel…
[1:17:19 – 1:17:28] Erik: I don’t know if it’s just my absolute, to my core, chill that I have because of how cold it is in here, but I could feel the little tingles going.
[1:17:28 – 1:17:28] Erik: Yeah.
[1:17:29 – 1:17:30] Erik: Especially when you said that he would whisper.
[1:17:30 – 1:17:33] Erik: Right after you said that, that’s when the whispering started.
[1:17:33 – 1:17:34] Erik: I was like, what is happening now?
[1:17:34 – 1:17:35] Erik: Yeah.
[1:17:36 – 1:17:37] Adam: Now there’s whispering?
[1:17:37 – 1:17:38] Adam: Maybe as…
[1:17:39 – 1:17:41] Adam: I can’t believe this was published in the Boundary Artist Journal.
[1:17:41 – 1:17:45] Adam: This is very sensationalist-like nonsense, but…
[1:17:46 – 1:17:48] Adam: It’s a fun story, and isn’t that what it’s all about?
[1:17:48 – 1:17:49] Adam: Storytelling, you know?
[1:17:49 – 1:17:49] Adam: Yeah.
[1:17:50 – 1:17:52] Adam: So I really liked it.
[1:17:53 – 1:17:54] Adam: I’m a big fan.
[1:17:54 – 1:17:58] Adam: I guess now once a month we’re just going to read a story out of the Boundary Waters Journal and dissect it.
[1:17:59 – 1:18:01] Erik: By next month you’ll have a full-blown subscription.
[1:18:02 – 1:18:05] Adam: Yeah, I guess I’ve never had a subscription to the Boundary Waters Journal.
[1:18:05 – 1:18:06] Adam: Maybe I should.
[1:18:06 – 1:18:07] Adam: Are they still publishing?
[1:18:07 – 1:18:07] Erik: Yeah.
[1:18:07 – 1:18:08] Adam: Stu, are you out there?
[1:18:08 – 1:18:09] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[1:18:09 – 1:18:09] Adam: Are you listening?
[1:18:10 – 1:18:10] UNKNOWN: Scary Stu.
[1:18:10 – 1:18:11] Adam: I mean, Roy?
[1:18:11 – 1:18:12] Adam: Yeah, I know.
[1:18:16 – 1:18:17] Adam: Roy Santero is Abby.
[1:18:18 – 1:18:23] Adam: Just know without a doubt it’s Stu Aftos’ spooky counterpart.
[1:18:24 – 1:18:28] Erik: Yeah, just to get something published like that without having to say his name.
[1:18:30 – 1:18:34] Adam: Yeah, that’s just his Francois Le Castor.
[1:18:34 – 1:18:35] Erik: He’s just dabbling in…
[1:18:35 – 1:18:38] Erik: Didn’t Stephen King do that one for a while?
[1:18:38 – 1:18:39] Adam: I’m sure of it.
[1:18:40 – 1:18:41] Adam: What’s the country artist?
[1:18:42 – 1:18:43] Erik: Oh, yeah, Chris Gaines.
[1:18:43 – 1:18:47] Adam: Yeah, you got the moody…
[1:18:47 – 1:18:49] Adam: This is the moody Stu Osthoff with the…
[1:18:50 – 1:18:51] Erik: Dark hair.
[1:18:51 – 1:18:55] Adam: Dark hair, combed over his eyes a little bit, not wearing a cowboy hat.
[1:18:55 – 1:19:01] Adam: He’s wearing black socks and probably wearing like bluestone boots or something.
[1:19:02 – 1:19:03] Erik: Yeah, so…
[1:19:03 – 1:19:05] Adam: I’m going down to the club telling spook story.
[1:19:06 – 1:19:07] Erik: Chris Gaines to Garth Brooks is…
[1:19:09 – 1:19:16] Adam: Roy Santoro Roy are you out there?
[1:19:16 – 1:19:28] Adam: Roy seriously if you’re listening please get a hold of us tumblehomecast at gmail.com we need to know that you’re real we want to meet you actually I’ll buy you a drink at voyager.com
[1:19:28 – 1:19:50] Adam: come on down to grand mare ace and i’ll tell you a scary story roy um tell mom casted the picture app as well instapicture.com hit us up and the dms i want to talk more about this and um but seriously if that’s actually a real name and you’re going to be in grand mare
[1:19:51 – 1:19:52] Adam: Stop on by the co-op.
[1:19:52 – 1:19:53] Adam: I want to chat.
[1:19:53 – 1:19:55] Adam: It was a hell of a story and very well written.
[1:19:55 – 1:19:57] Adam: Yeah, maybe he’s just looking for that.
[1:19:57 – 1:19:58] Adam: Game recognized game.
[1:19:58 – 1:20:00] Adam: This is a beautifully written piece.
[1:20:00 – 1:20:00] Adam: He’s done, though.
[1:20:00 – 1:20:02] Erik: Maybe he wants to put it all behind him.
[1:20:02 – 1:20:07] Adam: Hopefully he does not, but I understand if you do, that was spooky as hell.
[1:20:07 – 1:20:12] Adam: I’ve never heard the whispers, but I have felt this way in camp before, but not to this degree.
[1:20:12 – 1:20:15] Adam: So that’s why I really like this story.
[1:20:16 – 1:20:16] Adam: All right.
[1:20:17 – 1:20:23] Adam: I think we’ll leave her there for episode 240 of Tumble Home Boundary Waters podcast.
[1:20:23 – 1:20:29] Adam: Thanks for being here, Eric, in the shed tonight, and I hope you’re going to be able to sleep tonight.
[1:20:30 – 1:20:32] Adam: It’s going to be hard to sleep tonight.
[1:20:32 – 1:20:34] Adam: It’s a dark one out there.
[1:20:35 – 1:20:39] Adam: As we always say on Tomahome, every day is precious and life is a nightmare.
[1:20:39 – 1:20:41] Adam: Good night.
[1:20:41 – 1:20:42] Adam: Get spooked.
