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[0:00:03 – 0:00:13] Adam: On September 14th and 15th, 1987, a black bear injured two campers in unprovoked, apparently predatory, attacks in the Boundary Waters Canoe Area wilderness. [0:00:14 – 0:00:16] Adam: Each attack followed the same pattern. [0:00:16 – 0:00:20] Adam: The gaunt bear entered a campsite, approached a camper, [0:00:20 – 0:00:49] Adam: hesitated then attacked biting the camper on the head and neck until someone drove the bear off with a canoe paddle a day after the second attack the bear was killed and the threat from the only attack bear in the history of the superior national forest ended but the attacks and the events surrounding them will probably be remembered as long as people camp and canoe in the minnesota wilderness this is a detailed account of the attacks and the efforts to determine why the bear had attacked and if the right bear had been killed [0:00:51 – 0:00:59] Adam: Tyson Crowder, 19, an outward-bound student from Maryland, Tennessee, was camping alone on Wabang Lake to test his survival skills. [0:00:59 – 0:01:00] Adam: He had no food. [0:01:00 – 0:01:07] Adam: Seven other outward-bound students and two instructors, Mike and Ann Poe, were camped at other sites around the narrow lake. [0:01:08 – 0:01:13] Adam: The Poes paddled by at 5 p.m. for a routine check on Tyson and the other students. [0:01:14 – 0:01:20] Adam: Tyson, sitting on the shore, told them he was fine and watched them until they disappeared into a bay a quarter mile away. [0:01:20 – 0:01:26] Adam: He then turned and saw a bear, 20 feet away and angling closer, seemingly unaware of him. [0:01:27 – 0:01:28] Adam: Tyson stood. [0:01:29 – 0:01:30] Adam: The bear noticed him and hesitated. [0:01:31 – 0:01:40] Adam: Tyson leaped to an offshore rock and the bear charged, finally rising to catch Tyson’s head and its claws and mouth as Tyson backed off the rock into the shallow water. [0:01:41 – 0:01:44] Adam: Tyson screamed and fought, clinging to the trees to resist being dragged. [0:01:45 – 0:01:48] Adam: Students across the lake whistled to the poes and pointed to Tyson. [0:01:49 – 0:01:56] Adam: Within three minutes, the furiously paddling poes were at the scene, leaping from their canoes and striking the bear with their paddles. [0:01:57 – 0:02:01] Adam: The bear retreated a few yards and watched as the poes pulled Tyson into their canoe. [0:02:03 – 0:02:04] Adam: It then swam away across the lake. [0:02:05 – 0:02:10] Adam: The instructors collected the other students into a single camp and built a fire to keep Tyson warm. [0:02:11 – 0:02:18] Adam: Through the night, they all took turns tending to the fire, caring for Tyson’s head, neck, and shoulder wounds, and anxiously watching for the bear. [0:02:20 – 0:02:28] Adam: At first light, Mike Poe and two of the students began carrying the canoe three-quarters of a mile through the woods to Lady Boot Bay on Lac La Croix. [0:02:28 – 0:02:38] Adam: By 12.15 p.m., they had paddled portage and caught a motorboat ride 10 miles to Campbell’s Cabins on the Canadian side of Lac La Croix, where a float plane was available. [0:02:39 – 0:02:42] Adam: Two hours later, Tyson was in the Ely Hospital. [0:02:44 – 0:02:52] Adam: Meanwhile, the bear had moved two miles northwest to a campsite on Lady Boot Bay, and while Tyson Crowder was being flown to the hospital, attacked again. [0:02:53 – 0:03:04] Adam: The bear appeared at 1 p.m. while Jeremy Cleveland, 52, of Minnetonka, Minnesota, and his 29-year-old son James were finishing packing and getting ready to leave. [0:03:05 – 0:03:08] Adam: Both men yelled and waved their arms at the approaching bear. [0:03:08 – 0:03:11] Adam: It stopped 20 feet away and began pacing. [0:03:12 – 0:03:15] Adam: James grabbed the main food pack and disappeared over the bank towards the canoe. [0:03:17 – 0:03:25] Adam: The bear immediately started towards Jeremy, but stopped again when Jeremy threw his canteen at the bear, ran for the bay, and dove in on a dead run. [0:03:26 – 0:03:30] Adam: After swimming a few strokes, he stood and turned around and found himself face to face with the bear. [0:03:31 – 0:03:36] Adam: During the next few seconds, the bear caught him by the back of the neck and began dragging him to shore. [0:03:37 – 0:03:43] Adam: James leaped in, and the two men tried unsuccessfully to pry the bear’s powerful jaws off Jeremy’s neck. [0:03:44 – 0:03:49] Adam: In the grip of the bear and with his head in and out of the water, Jeremy told James to get the canoe paddle. [0:03:49 – 0:03:54] Adam: Three blows to the bear’s head and neck made the bear drop Jeremy and retreat to shore. [0:03:55 – 0:04:01] Adam: The men scrambled into the canoe and shoved off, abandoning the rest of their gear as the bear started toward them again. [0:04:02 – 0:04:08] Adam: Jeremy had tooth punctures in his neck, back, and thigh, but none were bleeding excessively and the pain was tolerable. [0:04:08 – 0:04:10] Adam: The men started out of the wilderness. [0:04:10 – 0:04:15] Adam: With the help of campers and fishermen they met along the way, they canoed and motorboated to Campbell’s cabins. [0:04:16 – 0:04:17] Adam: From there, [0:04:18 – 0:04:24] Adam: They were flown out, arriving at Cook Hospital at 8 p.m. [0:04:25 – 0:04:33] Adam: The next day, the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources and the USDA Forest Service joined forces to warn campers and to find and kill the rogue bear. [0:04:34 – 0:04:42] Adam: Forest Service pilots began warning campers, while administrators, wardens, and biologists from the two agencies gathered at the Ely Ranger Station. [0:04:42 – 0:04:54] Adam: After a brief strategy meeting led by the MDNR Regional Administrator John Schell, four wardens and a biologist flew to the second attack site, and three wardens flew to a cabin four miles east. [0:04:56 – 0:04:59] Adam: four miles east-southeast of there on Lac La Croix. [0:05:00 – 0:05:08] Adam: Chuck Stock and Augie Carstens, two Forest Service technicians familiar with the rock and channels of Lac La Croix, met the wardens of the cabin with a motorboat. [0:05:09 – 0:05:17] Adam: By that time, the Barrett moved two and a half miles east-southeast and had swum 300 yards to a campsite on a small island on Lac La Croix. [0:05:18 – 0:05:24] Adam: The party of five there, two couples from California and a friend of theirs from New Zealand, had been warned about the attacks. [0:05:26 – 0:05:32] Adam: When the bear arrived, the five campers scattered, running for the water in canoes as the bear chased one of them a short distance. [0:05:32 – 0:05:40] Adam: They watched from two canoes as the bear investigated the camp, rested, tore up a garbage bag, and finally laid down to lick spilled Kool-Aid from the ground. [0:05:41 – 0:05:45] Adam: As they watched, the float plane flew over to deliver the wardens to the cabin a mile and a half away. [0:05:46 – 0:05:47] Adam: The campers saw it descend to land. [0:05:48 – 0:05:53] Adam: The two women campers, both in the same canoe, immediately began paddling hard to the cabin. [0:05:53 – 0:05:55] Adam: while the men kept an eye on the bear. [0:05:56 – 0:06:00] Adam: A few minutes later, the panting women told the wardens and the pilot what had happened. [0:06:01 – 0:06:07] Adam: Pilot Carlo Palumbi quickly took off to circle the island in case the bear started swimming to the mainland. [0:06:08 – 0:06:11] Adam: The three wardens and the two motorboat operators sped to the island. [0:06:11 – 0:06:17] Adam: Wardens Connie Ticali and Lloyd Steen moved to the bow of the boat and loaded their rifles. [0:06:18 – 0:06:23] Adam: From far out on the water, they saw the bear lying broadside to them, still licking up the Kool-Aid. [0:06:24 – 0:06:25] Adam: The boat slowed and settled near shore. [0:06:26 – 0:06:34] Adam: The bear raised its head briefly and resumed licking, and Connie killed it with a single, well-placed chest shot from his 30 Winchester Magnum rifle. [0:06:41 – 0:06:45] Adam: The bear, still laying down, slumped over and scarcely moved after the shot. [0:06:46 – 0:06:54] Adam: Supervisory warden Art Gensmer said, shoot it again, and Lloyd fired a .308 Winchester bullet into its chest from the rocking boat. [0:06:55 – 0:07:00] Adam: Connie followed up with a load of 12-gauge double-lot buckshot to the head, neck, and forequarters. [0:07:01 – 0:07:07] Adam: The group converged around the bear, a small adult female, which later tipped the scales at only 117 pounds. [0:07:07 – 0:07:15] Adam: They dragged the carcass to shore and began tying it to the float of the airplane, which had landed to take the carcass into Ely for examination. [0:07:16 – 0:07:30] Adam: As they secured the carcass, the relaxing bear defecated, and quick-thinking Connie Takali retrieved the bagged feces that turned out to be one of the most important acts in establishing the bear as the attack animal. [0:07:33 – 0:07:42] Adam: Bear biologists David Garshalis and Lynn Rogers met the float plane at the Forest Service dock in Ely and began the job of determining if the right bear had been shot. [0:07:43 – 0:07:49] Adam: Although it is now known that the attack bear was the one killed, most of the early evidence indicated it was not the right bear. [0:07:49 – 0:07:53] Adam: The bear was only half the weight estimated by the victims, and it stood maybe a foot shorter. [0:07:54 – 0:07:59] Adam: It was also black, except around the face, rather than brown, as reported by one of the victims. [0:08:00 – 0:08:04] Adam: It seemed to have been after the campers’ food rather than the campers’ themselves. [0:08:05 – 0:08:13] Adam: The short chase after the running man at the kill site seemed a little unusual, but quite a few bears make short bluff charges with no intention of attacking. [0:08:14 – 0:08:18] Adam: and witnesses commonly exaggerate when they later describe such charges. [0:08:18 – 0:08:24] Adam: A black bear can run nearly twice as fast as a person and would have little trouble catching a person if it wanted to. [0:08:25 – 0:08:29] Adam: The attack bear had gone into the water after people in both attacks, but the dead bear had not. [0:08:30 – 0:08:38] Adam: The bear’s calm behavior during most of the hour the campers observed it seemed more like the behavior of a campwise bear than that of an attack bear. [0:08:38 – 0:08:41] Adam: and camp nuisances almost never prey on people. [0:08:42 – 0:08:47] Adam: Rare predatory bears typically are bears with little or no previous contact with people. [0:08:48 – 0:08:53] Adam: It also was a female, which, unlike grizzly females, seldom attacked people. [0:08:55 – 0:09:00] Adam: Being a female, the bear had probably lived in the area its whole life, and no previous attacks had occurred. [0:09:01 – 0:09:05] Adam: Any bruises from the canoe paddles on the bear’s head and neck were obscured by the buckshot injuries. [0:09:06 – 0:09:09] Adam: The victims believed strongly that the wrong bear had been killed. [0:09:09 – 0:09:16] Adam: There was not yet any strong evidence to connect the dead bear to the attacks, so the victims began taking rabies shots and the hunt went on. [0:09:18 – 0:09:22] Adam: However, over the next two days, it began to look like the dead bear was the right one. [0:09:22 – 0:09:23] Adam: No other attacks occurred. [0:09:24 – 0:09:36] Adam: At the second attack site, biologist and biological technician Greg Wilker found small bear tracks that matched those of the dead bear, and no sign of other bears were found anywhere in the search area. [0:09:36 – 0:09:42] Adam: Bears were slowing down in preparation for winter, and the dead bear apparently had been the only bear still active in the area. [0:09:43 – 0:09:49] Adam: Further, at the first attack site, investigators found hairs from both the victim and the bear caught at the bark of the tree. [0:09:50 – 0:09:53] Adam: The bear hair was the same color and length as that on the dead bear. [0:09:54 – 0:10:02] Adam: The most convincing evidence came from a microscopic examination of the two quarts of stomach contents by John Schell and the three biologists. [0:10:03 – 0:10:08] Adam: It revealed 14 hairs, one of which was the same length, thickness, and approximate color as Tyson Crowder’s. [0:10:10 – 0:10:12] Adam: With that evidence, John Schell called off the hunt. [0:10:13 – 0:10:26] Adam: The hairs were sent to the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension for comparison with those of the victims, and the bear carcass was sent to the University of Minnesota Veterinarian Diagnostic Laboratory for further tests. [0:10:28 – 0:10:31] Adam: Over the next few days, more evidence emerged. [0:10:31 – 0:10:42] Adam: First, a recovered Jeremy Cleveland went through all his camping gear and found that the bear had eaten a three-inch end piece of Schweigert’s summer sausage from one of the packs. [0:10:42 – 0:10:48] Adam: The wrapper, still showing the words Schweigert’s summer sausage, had been found in the dead bear’s droppings. [0:10:49 – 0:10:55] Adam: Next, James Cleveland recalled a black tooth he saw while trying to pry the bear’s jaws off his father. [0:10:55 – 0:10:57] Adam: The dead bear had the same black tooth. [0:10:58 – 0:11:07] Adam: Third, a forensic dentist and Norlander compared the tooth pattern of the dead bear with the tooth marks on Jeremy Cleveland and found an acceptable match. [0:11:08 – 0:11:12] Adam: The final evidence came from the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension. [0:11:12 – 0:11:24] Adam: Two of that agency’s most experienced forensic scientists, Mary Ann Strauss and Donald Melander, had spent more than a week matching the hairs from the stomach with those from the heads and bodies of the two victims. [0:11:25 – 0:11:30] Adam: Four of the hairs were similar to those of Tyson Crowder, and five were similar to those of Jeremy Cleveland. [0:11:31 – 0:11:34] Adam: None of the hairs matched those of any of the people at the kill site. [0:11:35 – 0:11:40] Adam: At that point, the victims and investigators concluded that the attack bearer was dead and no longer a threat. [0:11:42 – 0:11:45] Adam: One question remained, why did the bear attack? [0:11:46 – 0:11:59] Adam: At first we thought the two quarts of plastic in the bear’s stomach might have been hindering digestion, but we later learned that the bear ingested the plastic immediately before being killed, and that the digestive processes were normal. [0:12:00 – 0:12:06] Adam: The veterinarian laboratory report revealed nothing unusual about the bear, except for a very low supply of body fat. [0:12:07 – 0:12:12] Adam: The seven-year-old bear did not have rabies, brain tumors, brain inflammation, or various viruses. [0:12:13 – 0:12:20] Adam: Although some of the tests were hindered by the buckshot injuries, what was left in the internal organs appeared normal with no bacterial infections. [0:12:21 – 0:12:25] Adam: There were no old wounds and no old bullets lodged in the body. [0:12:26 – 0:12:28] Adam: The bear’s parasite load was not excessive. [0:12:28 – 0:12:31] Adam: Its teeth were not decayed despite the black stain on one of them. [0:12:32 – 0:12:33] Adam: The bear’s eyes were normal. [0:12:33 – 0:12:36] Adam: Its kidney and liver did not carry excessive amounts of lead. [0:12:37 – 0:12:41] Adam: What caused this bear to lose her judgment and attack people remains a mystery. [0:12:43 – 0:12:47] Adam: Chances of encountering another such bear in the near future are very slim. [0:12:47 – 0:12:54] Adam: Nevertheless, if you are attacked, use every available weapon, including your feet and fists, to fight the bear. [0:12:54 – 0:12:57] Adam: Do not play dead when attacked by a black bear. [0:12:57 – 0:13:06] Adam: Black bears that attack people often hesitate at first, just as this bear did, and then aggressive action by people at the time could dissuade the rare attack. [0:13:07 – 0:13:13] Adam: A harmless means of repelling bears that approach too closely is spraying them in the eyes with capatian repellent. [0:13:13 – 0:13:24] Adam: Capatian, the active ingredient of hot peppers, is sold commercially as dog shield and halt and is commonly used as a dog repellent by mail carriers and meter readers. [0:13:25 – 0:13:29] Adam: It has been found to repel black bears as effectively as it does dogs. [0:13:30 – 0:13:35] Adam: In several hundred tests, no bears appeared angered by the spray, most immediately retreated without a sound. [0:13:36 – 0:13:39] Adam: A few have returned shortly to retreat when sprayed again. [0:13:40 – 0:13:47] Adam: This spray could discourage bears not only from attacking, but also from becoming nuisances at campgrounds. [0:13:51 – 0:14:03] Adam: This has been a story from the Boundary Waters Journal, Volume 2, Number 1, Summer of 1988, by Lynn L. Rogers and David Garchulis. [0:14:25 – 0:14:26] UNKNOWN: Welcome. [0:14:26 – 0:14:28] UNKNOWN: It’s all over, ladies and gentlemen. [0:14:48 – 0:14:53] Erik: The winds of November are slashing early. [0:14:53 – 0:14:57] Erik: My God, what a difference four days makes. [0:14:58 – 0:14:58] Erik: We’re in the shed. [0:14:59 – 0:15:00] Adam: Heater’s on. [0:15:00 – 0:15:01] Erik: The heater is on. [0:15:01 – 0:15:04] Erik: Just barely enough propane to get us through. [0:15:05 – 0:15:07] Erik: And by it’s over, I mean summer. [0:15:09 – 0:15:18] Erik: By no means was I throwing any shade at the epically long and highly entertaining Bear Attack story. [0:15:18 – 0:15:20] Erik: That nobody will ever forget. [0:15:20 – 0:15:22] Erik: Nobody will ever forget. [0:15:22 – 0:15:23] Erik: That neither of us had ever heard of. [0:15:23 – 0:15:24] Erik: Never heard of. [0:15:24 – 0:15:25] Erik: Yeah. [0:15:26 – 0:15:27] Erik: Thanks, Stu. [0:15:27 – 0:15:31] Erik: Yeah, thank you, Stu, for Volume 2. [0:15:31 – 0:15:34] Erik: That was the second year of the BWJ. [0:15:35 – 0:15:37] Erik: With a story like that, he probably thought the sky is the limit. [0:15:38 – 0:15:40] Erik: You’ve got to republish that one. [0:15:40 – 0:15:41] Erik: My God. [0:15:41 – 0:15:45] Erik: This is Tumble Home, a Boundary Waters and Bear Attack podcast. [0:15:45 – 0:15:48] Erik: My name is… [0:15:49 – 0:16:17] Erik: old buckshot eric ruining the carcass as usual joined by my worn out vocal friend here hello hello i’m ursus chonkus ursus chonkus it is officially fat bear week fat bear week good thing it’s in october it makes sense yeah oh my yeah that’s wild the uh it seemed like they maybe took a few too many shots at the bear in that story but you never know you know [0:16:18 – 0:16:23] Adam: Yeah, better to be safe than sorry when assassinating a bear from a motorboat. [0:16:23 – 0:16:27] Erik: Assassinating basically a large dog-sized bear. [0:16:28 – 0:16:38] Adam: Yeah, like that 117-pounder compared to the bear the in-laws encountered out on Canoe Lake last week, which they described as the size of a Pontiac Vibe. [0:16:38 – 0:16:39] Adam: Yeah. [0:16:39 – 0:16:40] Adam: So… [0:16:41 – 0:16:43] Adam: It’s amazing the range a bear can be. [0:16:43 – 0:16:46] Adam: I’ve never really gotten really, really close to a bear. [0:16:47 – 0:16:53] Adam: I’ve had a few, but I’ve never really gotten one where you’re looking it right in the eye like that. [0:16:53 – 0:16:54] Adam: 117 is small. [0:16:54 – 0:16:57] Adam: 117 is bigger than Arrow, but it’s not that much bigger than a Husky. [0:16:58 – 0:16:59] Erik: Yeah, it’s like twice as big as a husky. [0:16:59 – 0:17:01] Adam: Yeah, and it’s big. [0:17:01 – 0:17:05] Erik: Twice as big as like a big-ish husky, but like Axel’s 50 pounds. [0:17:06 – 0:17:06] Erik: Right. [0:17:06 – 0:17:10] Erik: So it’s basically like a little bit more than two of him, and I could whip him across the lake easily. [0:17:10 – 0:17:19] Adam: Yeah, it’s Axel plus Arrow combined in one Kool-Aid-licking, schweigert, beef-summer sausage-eating, hungry, hungry critter. [0:17:19 – 0:17:23] Erik: I mean, I guess it’s the claws and the teeth that, you know, those are powerful. [0:17:23 – 0:17:24] Erik: And the speed. [0:17:24 – 0:17:24] Adam: And the speed, yeah. [0:17:25 – 0:17:26] Adam: It could run you down if it wanted to. [0:17:26 – 0:17:27] Adam: Yeah, yeah. [0:17:27 – 0:17:29] Adam: I don’t know. [0:17:29 – 0:17:31] Adam: There’s a lot of, like, interesting parts of that story. [0:17:32 – 0:17:33] Adam: And somehow I’ve never heard of this. [0:17:34 – 0:17:37] Adam: And this is highly entertaining in a way. [0:17:37 – 0:17:39] Adam: Yeah, like, we could have just paraphrased that. [0:17:39 – 0:17:42] Adam: But it’s also not that long. [0:17:42 – 0:17:43] Adam: Um, but, um, yeah. [0:17:43 – 0:17:45] Adam: What part of that do you take out? [0:17:45 – 0:17:45] Adam: I don’t know. [0:17:45 – 0:17:51] Adam: I figured it was worth just reading the whole thing as is to start and set the tone for tonight’s episode. [0:17:51 – 0:17:53] Adam: And we’re going to be diving into the question of the week. [0:17:53 – 0:17:56] Erik: I can only hope for more bear attacks, at least that good. [0:17:56 – 0:17:56] Adam: Yeah. [0:17:56 – 0:17:58] Adam: I can’t wait to find out. [0:17:58 – 0:18:00] Adam: Hopefully nobody was chased into the lake though. [0:18:00 – 0:18:21] Adam: colin shrouder or whatever maybe he’s a fan of the show and he’s got a story anybody out there from the yeah from the story anybody out there listening hit us up on the instagram tumblehomecast at gmail.com yep um thank you for and thank you for listening and we hope you’re fine but yeah i don’t know anybody ever hit a bear with a canoe paddle [0:18:21 – 0:18:23] Erik: No, God, I’d be worried that it would. [0:18:23 – 0:18:30] Erik: I mean, if they were your big, you know, Carlisle metal and plastic ones, you’d whack away. [0:18:30 – 0:18:38] Erik: But I mean, it had to be a next of kin situation for me to consider smashing it with one of those eight ounce. [0:18:38 – 0:18:39] Erik: Zavarals. [0:18:39 – 0:18:40] Erik: Racing Zavarals. [0:18:40 – 0:18:43] Adam: I’m not going to use a Zavaral, just grab a branch or something. [0:18:43 – 0:18:47] Erik: Yeah, there’s got to be a bobby log laying around that you can club it with. [0:18:47 – 0:18:49] Adam: Yeah, use the bobby log in that one. [0:18:49 – 0:18:53] Adam: But I did appreciate that at the end it was just like the best thing you can do is spray that sucker with a capation. [0:18:54 – 0:18:54] Adam: Yep, a dog spray. [0:18:55 – 0:18:59] Adam: Give it the dog spray, which is like it’s all coming together like it always does on Tumble Home. [0:18:59 – 0:19:00] Adam: Yeah, it’s bear week. [0:19:00 – 0:19:03] Adam: It’s bear week, fat bear week here on Tumble Home. [0:19:03 – 0:19:05] Adam: Might be fat bear weeks probably. [0:19:05 – 0:19:06] Adam: Probably. [0:19:06 – 0:19:09] Adam: There’s like 300 responses on the question of the week. [0:19:09 – 0:19:12] Adam: So good thing we started with a 14-minute cold open. [0:19:12 – 0:19:12] Adam: Yeah. [0:19:13 – 0:19:16] Adam: It might be Bear Month. [0:19:16 – 0:19:18] Adam: Fat Bear Month here on Tumble Home. [0:19:18 – 0:19:23] Adam: It’s October, and that brings us to our Ronald Share Outdoor Calendar Fact of the Night. [0:19:23 – 0:19:24] Erik: Is it about bears? [0:19:25 – 0:19:25] Adam: I wish. [0:19:25 – 0:19:26] Adam: It isn’t. [0:19:26 – 0:19:27] Adam: That would be really, really great. [0:19:28 – 0:19:28] Adam: I’m looking, too. [0:19:28 – 0:19:30] Adam: Is there another one I could just steal instead? [0:19:31 – 0:19:31] Adam: Actually, yeah. [0:19:32 – 0:19:37] Adam: Tonight’s Ronald Share Outdoor Calendar Fact of the Night for October 6, 2023. [0:19:38 – 0:19:39] Adam: Black bears begin hibernating. [0:19:40 – 0:19:40] Erik: And attacking. [0:19:41 – 0:19:46] Adam: Also, frogs burrow into muddy pond bottoms sunset at 644. [0:19:47 – 0:19:48] Adam: Also, the frogs are attacking. [0:19:48 – 0:19:49] Adam: Oh, God. [0:19:49 – 0:19:51] Adam: Bash them with a canoe paddle. [0:19:51 – 0:19:51] Adam: Yep. [0:19:51 – 0:19:52] Adam: Thank you, Ronald. [0:19:53 – 0:19:53] Erik: Yeah. [0:19:53 – 0:19:55] Adam: On point as always. [0:19:55 – 0:19:55] Adam: Yep. [0:19:55 – 0:19:56] Adam: The Ronald. [0:19:57 – 0:20:03] Erik: Well, it would have been nice to see if there was any contusions on the skull there, Shelly, but you blasted it with the buckshot there. [0:20:04 – 0:20:08] Adam: All the names in there, too, like such great ranger and biologist names in there. [0:20:08 – 0:20:10] Adam: I only butchered a couple sentences in there. [0:20:10 – 0:20:11] Adam: Yeah, no, that was great. [0:20:11 – 0:20:11] Adam: Pretty good reading. [0:20:11 – 0:20:13] Adam: For 14 minutes straight, I was impressed. [0:20:14 – 0:20:15] Adam: I’m a professional reader. [0:20:15 – 0:20:16] Adam: I read pretty, Eric. [0:20:16 – 0:20:17] Adam: Professional grade. [0:20:18 – 0:20:18] Adam: That’s right. [0:20:18 – 0:20:20] Adam: Brought to you by GMC this week. [0:20:22 – 0:20:30] Adam: We do have a show sponsor here, and it’s coming to us in a bag of Hormel meat. [0:20:30 – 0:20:30] Adam: What? [0:20:31 – 0:20:52] Adam: it’s got eric’s getting the meat on this one i get the meat oh i see this one is dropped off and uh looks like what’s that say june or july uh 728 bacon bag 728 728 bacon bag this is coming in literally a bacon bag as it says on the board [0:20:52 – 0:20:53] Erik: Hormel. [0:20:53 – 0:20:54] Adam: To Eric and Adam. [0:20:55 – 0:20:55] Erik: Well, shucks. [0:20:56 – 0:20:59] Erik: I’m off the booze and the meat, so… You’re off the meat, too? [0:20:59 – 0:21:01] Adam: What are you doing to us right now, Eric? [0:21:01 – 0:21:02] Erik: I’m just joking. [0:21:02 – 0:21:05] Adam: Derek and Keegan are going to be crying in their bacon. [0:21:06 – 0:21:09] Adam: This is from Derek and Keegan in STL. [0:21:10 – 0:21:11] Erik: St. Louis, or… [0:21:13 – 0:21:14] Adam: I assume it’s St. Louis. [0:21:15 – 0:21:16] Erik: St. Louis Park? [0:21:17 – 0:21:17] Adam: Short time low. [0:21:18 – 0:21:19] Adam: Short time low. [0:21:19 – 0:21:20] Adam: Here, this one’s for you, Eric. [0:21:21 – 0:21:22] Erik: That looks like a can of Spam. [0:21:22 – 0:21:24] Erik: I don’t need to open that to know that that’s what that is. [0:21:24 – 0:21:25] Adam: You’re going to fry that one on the griddle? [0:21:26 – 0:21:28] Erik: Ooh, bacon wrapping paper. [0:21:28 – 0:21:29] Adam: Oh, we have a note. [0:21:29 – 0:21:31] Adam: Yeah, it’s got bacon wrapping paper. [0:21:31 – 0:21:34] Erik: I want to know about the changes in policy on the back. [0:21:35 – 0:21:36] Adam: Changes in policy. [0:21:36 – 0:21:43] Adam: This manual supersedes all previous board members’ efforts to reprimand the naughty employees. [0:21:43 – 0:21:48] Adam: Eric and Adam, happy Christmas in July, or whenever you open these. [0:21:48 – 0:21:49] Adam: Happy Christmas, Eric. [0:21:50 – 0:21:51] Erik: Oh, my God. [0:21:51 – 0:21:55] Adam: Cheers from Derek and Keegan, and it’s definitely St. Louis. [0:21:55 – 0:21:56] Adam: They made it clear. [0:21:56 – 0:21:57] Adam: This is a jumbo can. [0:21:57 – 0:22:02] Erik: This is a regular-sized spam can, but there’s not spam in it. [0:22:03 – 0:22:03] Adam: Oh, okay. [0:22:04 – 0:22:06] Erik: Well… What is it? [0:22:06 – 0:22:07] Erik: I don’t… [0:22:07 – 0:22:08] Erik: I don’t get it. [0:22:09 – 0:22:13] Erik: I am fully… fully confused. [0:22:15 – 0:22:15] Erik: It’s called… [0:22:15 – 0:22:16] Erik: It’s spam. [0:22:16 – 0:22:18] Erik: Limited edition figgy pudding. [0:22:19 – 0:22:19] Adam: What? [0:22:19 – 0:22:22] Erik: Yeah, but… Figgy pudding? [0:22:22 – 0:22:24] Erik: But it should be piggy pudding. [0:22:24 – 0:22:28] Adam: Oh, you’re gonna have to… You’re gonna have to bash a bear in the skull with that thing. [0:22:29 – 0:22:30] Erik: Flavor, spice, and everything nice. [0:22:31 – 0:22:31] Erik: What? [0:22:31 – 0:22:34] Erik: But the first ingredient is pork with ham. [0:22:35 – 0:22:35] Adam: And the pudding. [0:22:37 – 0:22:37] Adam: Ooh. [0:22:38 – 0:22:39] Adam: Happy Christmas. [0:22:39 – 0:22:41] Erik: That’s the Christmas spam. [0:22:41 – 0:22:42] Erik: Spice up your holiday. [0:22:42 – 0:22:43] Adam: Biggie pudding. [0:22:44 – 0:22:45] Erik: Christmas ham. [0:22:45 – 0:22:46] Adam: Wow. [0:22:46 – 0:22:50] Erik: Best by August 2025. [0:22:50 – 0:22:53] Adam: We’re closer to Christmas than we are to the 4th of July at this point. [0:22:53 – 0:22:54] Adam: So well struck. [0:22:55 – 0:22:56] Adam: Well struck, St. Louis boys. [0:22:56 – 0:22:57] Erik: I’m not opening it. [0:22:57 – 0:23:02] Adam: We also got a Second Shift Brewing Art of Neurosis India Pale Ale. [0:23:02 – 0:23:03] Adam: Oh, look at this can. [0:23:04 – 0:23:05] Adam: Have you handled this one? [0:23:05 – 0:23:06] Erik: I just Kobe’d that. [0:23:07 – 0:23:07] Erik: Kobe! [0:23:08 – 0:23:09] Erik: That’s wild, yeah. [0:23:09 – 0:23:10] Adam: That’s great. [0:23:11 – 0:23:18] Adam: This is, of course, from Crider Brewing LLC, St. Louis MO. [0:23:19 – 0:23:20] Erik: Oh, St. Louis. [0:23:21 – 0:23:21] Erik: Okay. [0:23:21 – 0:23:22] Erik: Okay. [0:23:23 – 0:23:25] Adam: Aeon is the first beer I made at the brewery. [0:23:25 – 0:23:26] Adam: Steve. [0:23:26 – 0:23:31] Adam: It is a hop sandwich brewed with Simcoe and Columbus hops by Steve. [0:23:31 – 0:23:32] Adam: Packaged on 615. [0:23:32 – 0:23:35] Adam: This is fresh and nice and cold. [0:23:35 – 0:23:36] Adam: I did notice when it came in. [0:23:38 – 0:23:44] Adam: And I wanted to make sure there wasn’t any perishable items in there that I figured the canned item, I could tell through the packaging it was canned. [0:23:44 – 0:23:50] Adam: I was like, I think we’re safe to not have any spoiled meat on our hands. [0:23:50 – 0:23:52] Adam: So I think we made the right call there. [0:23:52 – 0:23:53] Erik: It comes pre-spoiled. [0:23:53 – 0:23:57] Erik: So there’s no worry of it spoiling anymore. [0:23:58 – 0:23:59] Erik: It’s like blue cheese. [0:24:00 – 0:24:02] Erik: It’s rotten in a good way. [0:24:02 – 0:24:03] Adam: That’s blue-veined. [0:24:04 – 0:24:04] Adam: Yes. [0:24:05 – 0:24:05] Adam: Deeply. [0:24:05 – 0:24:07] Adam: We got it inspected by the health department this week. [0:24:07 – 0:24:08] Adam: Oh, boy. [0:24:08 – 0:24:11] Adam: And a perfect score six years in a row. [0:24:11 – 0:24:12] Erik: What’s the score? [0:24:12 – 0:24:12] Erik: 100? [0:24:12 – 0:24:13] Adam: 100 out of 100. [0:24:13 – 0:24:14] Erik: Is that a weird scale? [0:24:14 – 0:24:19] Adam: I think it’s just a zero actually is like a perfect score because you have no deductions. [0:24:19 – 0:24:19] Adam: Ah, yes. [0:24:19 – 0:24:20] Adam: I’m not sure. [0:24:20 – 0:24:22] Adam: It just said there was zero deductions. [0:24:22 – 0:24:23] Adam: Perfect score once again. [0:24:24 – 0:24:27] Adam: And yeah, they did check our soft cheeses though. [0:24:27 – 0:24:30] Adam: You’re not allowed to cut soft cheese and sell it for more than seven days. [0:24:30 – 0:24:31] Adam: It’s a new rule. [0:24:31 – 0:24:33] Adam: That came in a couple of years ago, but- [0:24:34 – 0:24:56] Adam: gorgonzola with blue veins is exempt the blue veins you can sell it for as long as you want if it’s got the blue vein in there eric but not blue cheese just gorgonzola or any cheese that has blue veins there’s a whole list of exempt soft cheeses that but certain soft cheeses like the cam bear and most breeze you’re only allowed to if you’re cutting it in the house only allowed to wrap and sell that for seven days now it used to be 30 [0:24:57 – 0:24:57] Erik: Wow. [0:24:58 – 0:24:59] Adam: And tell you what, I’d eat it after seven days. [0:24:59 – 0:25:01] Adam: But, you know, the law is the law. [0:25:01 – 0:25:03] Adam: We want our perfect score. [0:25:03 – 0:25:08] Adam: But I knew, and it was confirmed, that the blue-veined gorgonzola is exempt. [0:25:08 – 0:25:10] Adam: We can sell that for $30 still. [0:25:10 – 0:25:11] Adam: Well, you heard it here first. [0:25:11 – 0:25:12] Adam: This still is a free country. [0:25:13 – 0:25:13] Adam: Barely. [0:25:14 – 0:25:15] Adam: Barely a free country. [0:25:15 – 0:25:20] Adam: But gosh dang it, we can sell our blue cheese and we can shoot a wily bear from a boat if we have to. [0:25:21 – 0:25:21] Erik: Yep. [0:25:21 – 0:25:22] Adam: To protect the peace. [0:25:23 – 0:25:23] Erik: Yep. [0:25:24 – 0:25:25] Erik: Rip its guts out. [0:25:25 – 0:25:25] Erik: This is like… [0:25:28 – 0:25:30] Adam: It’s like almost a hint of licorice and mint in this. [0:25:30 – 0:25:31] Adam: What’s going on here? [0:25:31 – 0:25:32] Erik: Oh, no. [0:25:32 – 0:25:33] Erik: You opened up the figgy pudding. [0:25:33 – 0:25:35] Adam: That’s the figgy pudding. [0:25:35 – 0:25:36] Adam: Adam, put it down. [0:25:36 – 0:25:37] Adam: Damn it. [0:25:37 – 0:25:37] Adam: He’s… [0:25:41 – 0:25:42] Erik: Mmm, happy Christmas, Eric. [0:25:42 – 0:25:43] Erik: Yeah, it’s still foamed. [0:25:43 – 0:25:46] Adam: I don’t know what the… Yeah, it’s still foamed. [0:25:46 – 0:25:47] Adam: It had a nice crack when he opened it. [0:25:48 – 0:25:49] Erik: It’s that fridge. [0:25:49 – 0:25:50] Erik: It’s making the meat foam. [0:25:51 – 0:25:52] Erik: That foam’s not right. [0:25:52 – 0:25:54] Adam: Foamed meat, I’ll call the Baron. [0:25:54 – 0:25:55] Adam: You don’t want that. [0:25:55 – 0:25:55] Adam: No. [0:25:56 – 0:26:01] Adam: Make sure you got an extra can of dog sprayer for that if you’re going to open the cold foamed meat. [0:26:02 – 0:26:03] Adam: We’re really doing them dirty. [0:26:04 – 0:26:07] Adam: This is a sweet, sweet show sponsor. [0:26:08 – 0:26:09] Adam: And thank you very much. [0:26:09 – 0:26:13] Adam: I hope you’re enjoying our making fun of the figgy pudding. [0:26:13 – 0:26:15] Adam: We’re making fun of it in an endearing fashion. [0:26:15 – 0:26:17] Erik: Yeah, we’re laughing at it. [0:26:17 – 0:26:19] Erik: I mean, with it, not at it. [0:26:19 – 0:26:24] Adam: We’ll make sure, I don’t know if I’ll be able to restrain myself from waiting until Christmas, though, Eric. [0:26:24 – 0:26:26] Adam: I think we might have to bring that out on Moodro. [0:26:26 – 0:26:35] Erik: We should definitely bring this with us, although considering the horrible conditions that today brought, I can’t imagine what it’s going to be like in three weeks. [0:26:35 – 0:26:35] Adam: It’s October, though. [0:26:35 – 0:26:39] Adam: I can do this all week, and then next week it could be 70 again. [0:26:39 – 0:26:41] Erik: We just fry it up in the hotel room at the Grand Ely Lodge. [0:26:41 – 0:26:42] Adam: There we go. [0:26:42 – 0:26:44] Adam: Yeah, we’ll just microwave it. [0:26:44 – 0:26:44] Erik: Yeah. [0:26:45 – 0:27:09] Erik: i’m sure there’s just like a horrible microwave with a dial well we can bring the camp supplies yeah yes the full-blown like ticking like yeah uh those are the timer dial that’s the world war ii era microwave that’s gonna change america that’s for the better right at groin level take those commies down with these new microwave technology it’s all plastic how are the microwaves staying in there [0:27:10 – 0:27:11] Adam: Why are my pockets tingling? [0:27:11 – 0:27:12] Erik: Well, the figgy pudding’s ready. [0:27:12 – 0:27:14] Erik: We got the figgy pudding. [0:27:16 – 0:27:24] Adam: Wow, I’ve never seen figgy pudding, and I’ve never seen an Art of Neurosis from Second Shift Brewing, so thank you very much. [0:27:25 – 0:27:25] Adam: I am… [0:27:26 – 0:27:32] Adam: I’m going to give this two G’s, one I, and F and a Y out of Figgy. [0:27:33 – 0:27:34] Adam: Thank you very much. [0:27:34 – 0:27:35] Adam: Aye, aye, aye. [0:27:35 – 0:27:36] Adam: This is Tumble Home. [0:27:37 – 0:27:38] Adam: After dark? [0:27:38 – 0:27:40] Adam: It’s not too far after dark, though. [0:27:40 – 0:27:45] Adam: No, but it’s going to be that time of year where it’s almost always after dark. [0:27:45 – 0:27:46] Adam: No, it’s October. [0:27:47 – 0:27:51] Erik: Well, there’s still a solid month of, like, reasonable, you know, length of days. [0:27:51 – 0:27:52] Erik: I don’t mind October. [0:27:52 – 0:28:00] Erik: I kind of like it when I don’t have to feel like a complete worthless bag because I’m going to sleep and the light’s still shining through my window. [0:28:00 – 0:28:00] Adam: Yeah. [0:28:00 – 0:28:02] Adam: You can go to bed at 8. [0:28:02 – 0:28:03] Adam: No problem. [0:28:03 – 0:28:03] Adam: Yeah. [0:28:03 – 0:28:04] Adam: Sometimes you got to. [0:28:04 – 0:28:04] Adam: Mm-hmm. [0:28:05 – 0:28:06] Adam: Sometimes you just got to. [0:28:06 – 0:28:07] Adam: Oh, yeah. [0:28:07 – 0:28:09] Adam: Have you had any fires in the woods still yet? [0:28:10 – 0:28:10] Erik: Mm-mm. [0:28:11 – 0:28:11] Adam: I haven’t either. [0:28:12 – 0:28:12] Adam: I’m holding out. [0:28:12 – 0:28:16] Adam: I did turn on the electric baseboard heat, though, today in the house. [0:28:16 – 0:28:18] Adam: It was quite chilly when I woke up. [0:28:18 – 0:28:22] Adam: I’m like, holy moly. [0:28:22 – 0:28:24] Adam: I want to hear the pipes ticking. [0:28:27 – 0:28:31] Adam: I’m not quite ready to light the wood stove yet, but it’s coming sooner rather than later. [0:28:31 – 0:28:37] Erik: It’s going to be a cold weekend and maybe beginning of next week, but there’s definitely going to be some more warm-ups in our future. [0:28:39 – 0:29:00] Adam: not gonna go straight into winter it just it won’t i mean it’s it’s october yeah there’s definitely there will be another 70 degree day you mark my oh i’m seeing november’s up here where you get 10 days straight where it’s 65 and beautiful so it ain’t over yet just because we got a little bit of cold mist and wind today doesn’t mean it’s time to fire up the wood stove just yet but [0:29:00 – 0:29:03] Erik: But the leaves are all on the ground, people, so… [0:29:03 – 0:29:07] Adam: The leaves are on the ground, and if you’ve got any Kool-Aid left on the ground, you’re going to want to go ahead and lick that up right now. [0:29:07 – 0:29:09] Erik: Yeah, or the leaves… Because the leaves will ruin it. [0:29:09 – 0:29:11] Erik: Yeah, or prepare your buckshot. [0:29:11 – 0:29:11] Erik: It’s the tannins. [0:29:11 – 0:29:12] Erik: Or your slug. [0:29:12 – 0:29:13] Erik: Was it a slug? [0:29:13 – 0:29:13] Erik: Buckshot. [0:29:14 – 0:29:14] Erik: 12-gauge. [0:29:14 – 0:29:15] Adam: I don’t know. [0:29:15 – 0:29:16] Adam: I messed up the one. [0:29:17 – 0:29:18] Adam: What’s the… [0:29:18 – 0:29:18] Adam: It’s just a .300. [0:29:19 – 0:29:19] Adam: Is that just a 30-gauge? [0:29:19 – 0:29:20] Adam: A .30-aught? [0:29:20 – 0:29:20] Adam: A .300. [0:29:23 – 0:29:24] Adam: Well, that was the rifle. [0:29:24 – 0:29:26] Adam: The first shot was a .300. [0:29:26 – 0:29:28] Adam: I’ve never even fired a gun. [0:29:28 – 0:29:30] Adam: Then there’s a .308. [0:29:30 – 0:29:31] Erik: I don’t know how to read gun numbers. [0:29:31 – 0:29:32] Adam: I have a .30. [0:29:32 – 0:29:36] Adam: Yeah, I got a .30-30 lever, but I don’t know what a .300. [0:29:36 – 0:29:37] Adam: I guess it’s just a .300. [0:29:37 – 0:29:38] Adam: I don’t know. [0:29:38 – 0:29:40] Erik: Yeah, it’s solid. [0:29:40 – 0:29:41] Erik: You need to shoot a moose with that thing. [0:29:41 – 0:29:43] Erik: Good base average, batting average. [0:29:43 – 0:29:44] Erik: There you go. [0:29:44 – 0:29:45] Adam: They’re all about the same. [0:29:45 – 0:29:48] Adam: I don’t know my rifle shells, okay, obviously. [0:29:48 – 0:29:52] Adam: But, yeah, the buckshot was a 12-gauge buckshot. [0:29:53 – 0:29:53] SPEAKER_00: Yeah. [0:29:54 – 0:29:54] Adam: Not a slug. [0:29:54 – 0:29:58] Erik: Does it make any difference, really, in the context of that story? [0:29:58 – 0:30:00] Adam: It was already down and dead at that point. [0:30:00 – 0:30:02] Erik: You could have just said rifle and then shotgun. [0:30:03 – 0:30:05] Adam: Well, that’s the Boundary Waters Journal. [0:30:05 – 0:30:07] Adam: That’s precise journalism right there. [0:30:07 – 0:30:08] Adam: High-hitting precision. [0:30:08 – 0:30:11] Adam: It’s not the Boundary Waters guest-a-thon. [0:30:11 – 0:30:22] Adam: This is the Boundary Waters Journal, and they’re going to make sure their facts are tight as a tube of Schweigert’s summer sausage that was found in the intestines. [0:30:22 – 0:30:22] Adam: Yeah. [0:30:23 – 0:30:51] Erik: yeah i don’t know for the good times for the good times swaggerts back in the day never go hungry in the eight yeah never go hungry in it because it never goes bad defend your swaggerts to the death this is america this uh stand your ground country protect your sausage country yep you i think was the 80s was the number of groups number of uh people in a group larger [0:30:52 – 0:30:53] Adam: I didn’t indicate that. [0:30:53 – 0:30:58] Adam: The Outward Bound group had a bunch of teens dispersed at each campsite on that lake. [0:30:58 – 0:30:59] Adam: Wabang. [0:30:59 – 0:31:00] Adam: You ever heard of Wabang? [0:31:00 – 0:31:03] Adam: It’s just south of Lac La Croix up there. [0:31:05 – 0:31:05] Adam: Wabang? [0:31:05 – 0:31:07] Adam: Just south of Lady Boot Bay. [0:31:07 – 0:31:08] Erik: I know Lady Boot Bay, yeah. [0:31:09 – 0:31:09] Adam: It’s a little lake. [0:31:09 – 0:31:13] Adam: I did zoom in on that on Paddle Planner to get a bearing on that. [0:31:14 – 0:31:14] Adam: I don’t know. [0:31:14 – 0:31:15] Adam: We were near there. [0:31:15 – 0:31:16] Adam: I’ve been in that neck of the woods. [0:31:16 – 0:31:17] Erik: But there was a group. [0:31:17 – 0:31:19] Erik: The total amount of Outward Bounders was 10. [0:31:20 – 0:31:26] Erik: Oh, so like, unless they had multiple permits, which I’m sure maybe it was the eighties. [0:31:26 – 0:31:35] Erik: Well, I just, I know that they used to do that where they would be like, I think they still might do that where they have the individual like overnight to test your metal. [0:31:35 – 0:31:38] Adam: Yeah, you got to do the solo overnight. [0:31:39 – 0:31:43] Erik: But I don’t know how legal that is without an extra permit. [0:31:43 – 0:31:45] Erik: I’m sure they have it all figured out. [0:31:45 – 0:31:45] Erik: Totally legal. [0:31:45 – 0:31:47] Erik: Outward bounds above board. [0:31:47 – 0:31:49] Adam: Yeah, I’m sure they were doing it right. [0:31:49 – 0:31:49] Adam: Yeah. [0:31:50 – 0:31:59] Adam: A friend of the show, Kierso, was just up on Lac La Croix and was told they were going to go through Agnes, which we went through on our way up there. [0:32:00 – 0:32:04] Adam: They were just told at permit pickup, don’t even think about camping on Agnes. [0:32:05 – 0:32:09] Adam: There’s a bear that just loops the lake on a cycle, and it will get you. [0:32:10 – 0:32:13] Adam: And they saw somebody with a ripped-up pack when they were going through there, apparently. [0:32:13 – 0:32:15] Adam: It will get you. [0:32:15 – 0:32:16] Adam: That bear will get you. [0:32:16 – 0:32:18] Adam: Yeah, and then… [0:32:18 – 0:32:22] Adam: Yeah, so this is the time of year where you’re going to want to be packing capatian for sure. [0:32:23 – 0:32:24] Erik: Yeah, yeah. [0:32:24 – 0:32:26] Erik: I could see that lake being one of those kinds of lakes. [0:32:26 – 0:32:28] Adam: There’s too many campsites on Agnes. [0:32:28 – 0:32:31] Erik: Yeah, and it’s sort of just like, unless you’re staying in Nina Moose. [0:32:31 – 0:32:32] Erik: It’s the wrong Agnes. [0:32:32 – 0:32:35] Erik: It’s kind of like, you stay on Nina Moose, and then you push, and then you get to Agnes. [0:32:35 – 0:32:36] Erik: You go all the way through Agnes. [0:32:36 – 0:32:36] Erik: And you stay there for your whole trip. [0:32:37 – 0:32:39] Adam: Unless you’re going to check out the sweet table. [0:32:39 – 0:32:39] Adam: Yeah. [0:32:40 – 0:32:43] Adam: Just check it out, take a picture, and get out of there before the bear gets you. [0:32:43 – 0:32:44] Adam: That’s the bear’s table. [0:32:44 – 0:32:44] Erik: Yeah. [0:32:44 – 0:32:45] Adam: That’s the headquarters. [0:32:45 – 0:32:46] Adam: Yeah. [0:32:47 – 0:32:52] Adam: We’re filing some paperwork here before we shred some more packs. [0:32:52 – 0:32:53] Adam: That bear’s above board. [0:32:53 – 0:32:54] Adam: They’re doing it right. [0:32:54 – 0:32:55] Erik: Yeah, he’s got to report that. [0:32:56 – 0:32:59] Adam: He’s got to report that to the bear headquarters. [0:33:00 – 0:33:01] Adam: Head bear. [0:33:01 – 0:33:01] Erik: Head bear. [0:33:03 – 0:33:04] Adam: Yeah, I don’t know. [0:33:04 – 0:33:13] Adam: There’s a lot of bears up there, and there are a lot of comments on the thread tonight, and I can’t wait to hear how many people are whacking bears with paddles. [0:33:14 – 0:33:25] Adam: We’re going to bring the Capatian, the bear spray, or the dog spray, or what have you, but we should bring just a paddle specifically for whacking because, like you said earlier, I don’t want to use the carbon fiber paddle on a bear. [0:33:25 – 0:33:28] Adam: That’s both an insult to the paddle and the bear. [0:33:29 – 0:33:31] Adam: We should bring an old-school paddle just for whacking. [0:33:32 – 0:33:38] Erik: I love the, I mean, that bear was like on the, was it the dad? [0:33:38 – 0:33:39] Erik: It was on the dad’s neck? [0:33:39 – 0:33:40] Erik: Yeah. [0:33:40 – 0:33:44] Erik: I mean, that seems like, yeah, you’d be whacking with all your might. [0:33:44 – 0:33:45] Erik: Oh, can you imagine? [0:33:45 – 0:33:49] Erik: I’d like snap one over my knee and just gouge it right in the chest, you know? [0:33:49 – 0:33:49] Adam: Stabbing, yeah. [0:33:50 – 0:33:50] Adam: Forget whacking. [0:33:51 – 0:33:52] Erik: I’m surprised nobody went after it. [0:33:52 – 0:33:58] Erik: I mean, you don’t have that much time to think and get like your big old rainbow knife out, but probably just grab whatever you can. [0:33:59 – 0:34:01] Adam: I want to kind of like crazy battle cry. [0:34:01 – 0:34:03] Adam: You’d be giving off while doing that. [0:34:03 – 0:34:06] Adam: Cause I’ve heard of, you know, people get a bear in camp. [0:34:06 – 0:34:09] Adam: You’re like, you scream yourself horse, trying to get them out of there with vocals. [0:34:09 – 0:34:14] Adam: But sometimes a little yelling doesn’t really do not done too much. [0:34:14 – 0:34:16] Adam: You got to get in there and show them a business. [0:34:17 – 0:34:18] Erik: Not a bear like this one, it sounds like. [0:34:18 – 0:34:19] Adam: Tough talk, you know. [0:34:19 – 0:34:22] Adam: But, hey, Adam, have you ever whacked a bear with a pedal? [0:34:22 – 0:34:23] Adam: No, I haven’t. [0:34:23 – 0:34:25] Adam: You know, I’m not some false tough guy here. [0:34:25 – 0:34:31] Adam: And I don’t know what I would do, honestly, if a bear had you and had jaws on your head. [0:34:31 – 0:34:33] Adam: I assume I’d be whacking it. [0:34:34 – 0:34:35] Adam: I’d be stabbing and whacking. [0:34:36 – 0:34:38] Adam: Stabbing and whacking. [0:34:39 – 0:34:41] Adam: But I don’t know, you know, what do you do? [0:34:41 – 0:34:45] Adam: You don’t know until it happens, like what you’re really made of when it comes to that. [0:34:45 – 0:34:50] Adam: I don’t think I’d be running, but I mean, how hard could you really hit a bear with a paddle? [0:34:50 – 0:34:50] Erik: Yeah. [0:34:50 – 0:34:56] Erik: There’s only so much weight behind that, you know, especially if you did have the carbon fiber one and then it’s just like, [0:34:56 – 0:35:00] Adam: I think it really slices through the air fast, but does it deliver the oomph? [0:35:00 – 0:35:02] Adam: You want a heavy paddle, I think, for that. [0:35:02 – 0:35:03] Adam: So we should bring the old. [0:35:03 – 0:35:04] Adam: I took it on the river, actually. [0:35:05 – 0:35:06] Adam: It’s not even out here in the shed right now. [0:35:06 – 0:35:07] Adam: It’s down in the woodshed. [0:35:07 – 0:35:08] Adam: Like two by six? [0:35:08 – 0:35:11] Adam: Yeah, the big wooden paddle from the Quetico trip I had. [0:35:11 – 0:35:12] Adam: That thing weighs 14 pounds. [0:35:12 – 0:35:13] Adam: We’re not talking ounces. [0:35:13 – 0:35:14] Adam: We’re talking pounds. [0:35:14 – 0:35:16] Adam: That thing would deliver a hefty blow. [0:35:17 – 0:35:27] Erik: yeah right but right at the base of the neck right in the eyes or right in the eyes but that seems like you might encounter a glancing blow onto the victim also you wouldn’t want that [0:35:28 – 0:35:32] Adam: I saw a comic on the Instagram, and it’s by Strange Planet. [0:35:32 – 0:35:34] Adam: It was like, best ways to deter a bear. [0:35:34 – 0:35:35] Adam: It’s like, punch it in the eyes. [0:35:36 – 0:35:36] SPEAKER_00: Ow. [0:35:36 – 0:35:37] Adam: Punch it in the nose. [0:35:37 – 0:35:37] Adam: Ooh. [0:35:37 – 0:35:39] Adam: And it’s like, mention its past. [0:35:39 – 0:35:41] Adam: And it’s like, that hurts my feelings. [0:35:42 – 0:35:44] Erik: Yeah, you just bring up its past. [0:35:44 – 0:35:47] Erik: Yeah, we’ve always insulted its mother, its lineage. [0:35:48 – 0:35:50] Adam: You didn’t have to bring that up. [0:35:50 – 0:35:51] Adam: That’s dirty. [0:35:51 – 0:35:51] Adam: Yeah. [0:35:51 – 0:35:52] Adam: That’s low. [0:35:52 – 0:35:53] Erik: It’s low. [0:35:53 – 0:35:54] Erik: Uncalled for. [0:35:54 – 0:35:55] Erik: Yeah. [0:35:56 – 0:35:58] Erik: You didn’t need to bring that up. [0:35:58 – 0:36:00] Erik: We have talked about bears in the past. [0:36:00 – 0:36:05] Erik: I know we mentioned the story of the caribou bear and the subway sandwich. [0:36:06 – 0:36:08] Erik: That’s a classic. [0:36:08 – 0:36:22] Erik: But most of the comments that we received, and it’s been so long, that was mostly pertaining to your go-to, and that’s probably going to be some of the mentions in here of what people do to prevent bears specifically getting at your food. [0:36:22 – 0:36:22] Erik: But [0:36:23 – 0:36:40] Erik: We’re looking for just general bear in camp experiences because they’re always so obviously I don’t think there’s going to be too many full blown attacks but even a bear in camp is always a heightening experience that is not easily forgotten I don’t imagine. [0:36:41 – 0:36:47] Adam: Yeah, I mean, and this is one of the few where I’m still yet to have it happen to me. [0:36:47 – 0:36:52] Adam: I always, at this point, and it’s been like this for a while, I just feel like it’s just a matter of time. [0:36:52 – 0:36:56] Adam: I mean, I’m too many nights in camp for it to not have happened. [0:36:56 – 0:36:56] Adam: I’m overdue. [0:36:57 – 0:36:58] Adam: It was like the health inspection. [0:36:59 – 0:37:00] Adam: You usually get one once a year. [0:37:01 – 0:37:05] Adam: And Janelle, the Department of Food Safety… [0:37:06 – 0:37:26] Adam: they she came like middle of summer last year so it was like every day it’s just like when’s the health inspector coming we’re overdue for one same thing with the bear it’s the same exact thing same exact thing is your is your salami at the proper temperature do you have the proper dates on your soft cheese also i want to eat your head [0:37:27 – 0:37:29] Erik: Also, I’m here for your skin. [0:37:29 – 0:37:31] Adam: I’ll chase your ass into the lake. [0:37:31 – 0:37:32] Adam: Give me those salamis. [0:37:33 – 0:37:33] Adam: Yeah. [0:37:34 – 0:37:34] Adam: I don’t know. [0:37:34 – 0:37:37] Adam: I mean, I think you’re more likely to get attacked if you have schweigerts. [0:37:37 – 0:37:38] Adam: But I don’t know. [0:37:38 – 0:37:40] Adam: I never brought Kool-Aid on a camping trip. [0:37:40 – 0:37:44] Adam: You’re asking for it, bringing the Kool-Aid man along with you. [0:37:44 – 0:37:45] Erik: That’s back in the day. [0:37:45 – 0:37:49] Erik: There weren’t the Mio’s and the little squirter juices. [0:37:49 – 0:37:50] Erik: The little squirters. [0:37:51 – 0:37:54] Erik: All the fancy things that we’ve got now this day and age. [0:37:54 – 0:37:57] Erik: It’s 21st century juice technology we have. [0:37:57 – 0:38:00] Erik: Back in the day, it was all- You had to bring a whole pitcher. [0:38:00 – 0:38:00] Erik: It was all powders. [0:38:00 – 0:38:01] Erik: A big wooden spoon. [0:38:01 – 0:38:06] Erik: Yeah, the stained red wooden spoon that was specifically for Kool-Aid. [0:38:06 – 0:38:07] Erik: You had to bring sugar. [0:38:08 – 0:38:09] Adam: You had to bring the sugar. [0:38:09 – 0:38:09] Adam: Yeah. [0:38:10 – 0:38:10] Adam: Yeah. [0:38:10 – 0:38:11] Adam: You don’t want the sugar. [0:38:11 – 0:38:12] Erik: Powder on its own is nothing. [0:38:12 – 0:38:14] Erik: That’s the horrible sugar. [0:38:14 – 0:38:15] Adam: Oh, thank you. [0:38:15 – 0:38:15] Adam: Yeah. [0:38:15 – 0:38:17] Erik: Well, let’s, uh, let’s hop into it. [0:38:17 – 0:38:18] Erik: Let’s get into it here. [0:38:18 – 0:38:24] Erik: We’re just going to take a quick break to make sure there’s no monsters outside of the bears in the microphones here. [0:38:25 – 0:38:26] Erik: Okay. [0:38:26 – 0:38:26] Erik: I guess there is. [0:38:26 – 0:38:27] Erik: We’re going to have to start all over. [0:38:28 – 0:38:30] Erik: Are you prepared to reread that 14 minute? [0:38:30 – 0:38:30] Erik: Uh, I am. [0:38:31 – 0:38:34] Adam: I messed up the 30 ad six, uh, reference so I can do better. [0:38:34 – 0:38:35] Adam: I can do better next time. [0:38:35 – 0:38:38] Erik: Well, we’re going to redo that, and we’ll be back. [0:38:40 – 0:38:41] Erik: Squarejaw77, friend of the pod. [0:38:47 – 0:38:50] Erik: I have never had a bear in camp. [0:38:51 – 0:38:55] Erik: The last year, I did have a bear tear up my bag at the end of a portage on a solo trip. [0:38:56 – 0:39:00] Erik: This taught me a lot about food protection and especially when solo. [0:39:01 – 0:39:04] Erik: When in groups and especially portages, food protection is easier. [0:39:04 – 0:39:08] Erik: However, on a solo, it is hard to not be separated from your food. [0:39:09 – 0:39:16] Erik: Because of that realization, I have switched to bear vault canisters for my solo trips and two trips with only two people. [0:39:19 – 0:39:20] Erik: And trips with only two people. [0:39:21 – 0:39:25] Erik: They only hold so much, but I can fit two people and two dogs. [0:39:26 – 0:39:27] Erik: In the vault. [0:39:27 – 0:39:28] Erik: And two dogs. [0:39:28 – 0:39:29] Erik: They jam right in there. [0:39:30 – 0:39:33] Erik: For a five-day trip in one large and one medium bear vault. [0:39:34 – 0:39:38] Erik: I primarily use pre-made dehydrated meals, so that saves space. [0:39:39 – 0:39:41] Erik: When I have larger groups, I use a blue barrel. [0:39:42 – 0:39:47] Erik: In that regard, I utilize different strategies for each when solo and when using the bear vault. [0:39:47 – 0:39:53] Erik: I follow their use suggestion and find a place to hang from camp that I can just place them on the ground. [0:39:54 – 0:39:56] Erik: I love not having to hang. [0:39:57 – 0:39:57] Adam: Amen. [0:39:58 – 0:39:58] Adam: Yeah. [0:39:58 – 0:40:05] Erik: I typically string a bungee cord around it, sorry, above it with a small sports-style cowbell so that sports-style. [0:40:05 – 0:40:07] Adam: A sports-style cowbell? [0:40:08 – 0:40:10] Adam: You know what this barrel needs? [0:40:10 – 0:40:11] Erik: A sports-style cowbell. [0:40:13 – 0:40:16] Erik: Like, ding, ding, ding, ding. [0:40:16 – 0:40:17] Erik: More cowbell. [0:40:17 – 0:40:19] Adam: Yeah, blast that barrel with a cowbell. [0:40:19 – 0:40:20] Erik: More sports-style cowbell. [0:40:20 – 0:40:21] Adam: We need a snare drum. [0:40:22 – 0:40:26] Erik: After using a bear vault, I don’t look forward to hanging food when I have big groups. [0:40:26 – 0:40:30] Erik: When I am solo, I put the vaults in a small backpack that I carry with my canoe. [0:40:30 – 0:40:34] Erik: At the end of the portage, I can remove from them the backpack and stow them in the woods. [0:40:35 – 0:40:38] Erik: With large groups, as stated earlier, I use a blue barrel and hang. [0:40:39 – 0:40:44] Erik: I use a heavy-duty pulley, which negates the need to use rocks in order to get it up into a tree. [0:40:45 – 0:40:50] Erik: It might add weight, but having a good solid pulley is not only good for throwing, but good for pulling the barrel up as well. [0:40:51 – 0:40:57] Erik: I utilize two trees when I hang, and I’m almost always able to get it 12 feet high and 6 feet from a tree. [0:40:59 – 0:41:00] Adam: Simple machines. [0:41:00 – 0:41:01] Erik: Simple machines. [0:41:01 – 0:41:02] Erik: Pulley, I believe, is one of them. [0:41:03 – 0:41:09] Erik: Sometimes we use paddles to help push the barrel up even higher after we can’t reach it any longer during the process of hanging. [0:41:10 – 0:41:11] Erik: I also add a cowbell… [0:41:13 – 0:41:14] Adam: Not a sports style? [0:41:14 – 0:41:15] Adam: Not a sports style. [0:41:15 – 0:41:16] Adam: Regular style. [0:41:16 – 0:41:17] Erik: This is a regular, serious cowbell. [0:41:18 – 0:41:19] Adam: How many cowbells do you own, Square Jot? [0:41:19 – 0:41:21] Erik: There’s a spectrum of cowbells, I can assure you. [0:41:22 – 0:41:22] Adam: I guess. [0:41:22 – 0:41:23] Adam: I didn’t know. [0:41:23 – 0:41:25] Adam: Well, we’ll figure it out, man. [0:41:25 – 0:41:26] Adam: Cowbell rankers. [0:41:27 – 0:41:27] Erik: 2023. [0:41:28 – 0:41:30] Erik: I also had a cowbell to do this as well. [0:41:33 – 0:42:02] Erik: just to add some kind of alert I use the single tree and pulley method but tie off the other end as high up in another tree as possible some tips I have learned do not hang a bear vault or store it inside a backpack or other pack they are designed so bears cannot carry them adding straps or bags to them gives them a way to walk off with them when hanging blue barrels I use a sturdy stick attached to my paracord so that I don’t hurt my hands when pulling on it to raise a heavy bag [0:42:02 – 0:42:28] Erik: long-winded answer and especially from someone that hasn’t had a bear encounter in camp well he sounds like you’re doing it right though yeah that’s why my biggest issues have usually been from mice squirrels and chippies blue barrels and bear vaults have negated that 100 and 10 no 100 yeah use the paddle to push the vault higher in the air not to whack them that’s the best use of a paddle [0:42:28 – 0:42:29] Erik: Yeah. [0:42:29 – 0:42:33] Erik: Second best use for the pulley, though, is hoisting your friends way up in the air. [0:42:33 – 0:42:35] Erik: For fun and amusement. [0:42:37 – 0:42:38] Adam: Highly recommended. [0:42:38 – 0:42:38] Adam: Yes. [0:42:41 – 0:42:42] Erik: Thanks, Squarejaw. [0:42:42 – 0:42:46] Erik: That was a well-rounded and well-thought-out question. [0:42:46 – 0:42:52] Adam: I’m hoping at this point somebody says they’re going to lube up their barrel so they can’t grab them and run. [0:42:52 – 0:42:53] Adam: Grease the barrel? [0:42:53 – 0:42:53] Adam: Yeah. [0:42:53 – 0:42:55] Adam: The greased barrel. [0:42:55 – 0:42:57] Erik: What’s with these vaults? [0:42:57 – 0:42:58] Adam: They can’t take them off? [0:42:58 – 0:43:01] Adam: If you put them in a bag, then it gives them a way to carry it. [0:43:01 – 0:43:02] Erik: I guess, yeah. [0:43:03 – 0:43:04] Erik: Once you get somewhere… [0:43:04 – 0:43:05] Adam: The bear will put the backpack on. [0:43:06 – 0:43:10] Erik: But those bear vaults, how do you hang those without putting them in a bag? [0:43:10 – 0:43:12] Erik: That’s what I want to know. [0:43:12 – 0:43:13] Erik: I know what he’s saying. [0:43:13 – 0:43:14] Erik: When they’re on their own, they’re just loose. [0:43:14 – 0:43:21] Adam: I thought that was the ones that were just bungee corded to the tree with a miniature cowbell. [0:43:21 – 0:43:22] Erik: Oh, maybe. [0:43:22 – 0:43:23] Erik: The sports style? [0:43:23 – 0:43:24] Adam: Sport cowbell. [0:43:24 – 0:43:25] Erik: Yeah, mini sports style. [0:43:25 – 0:43:29] Adam: Now I’m going to, literally the first thing after we get done with this episode, look up all the different kinds of cowbells. [0:43:30 – 0:43:31] Adam: I’m intrigued. [0:43:31 – 0:43:32] Adam: Intrigued. [0:43:32 – 0:43:33] Adam: And I’m visibly excited. [0:43:33 – 0:43:35] Adam: Eric can attest that he’s doing this with his fingers. [0:43:36 – 0:43:38] Adam: He’s nodding and his eyes are very wide. [0:43:39 – 0:43:45] Adam: Next up on the show, dear friend of the show, ghost of Ed Abbey 11 days ago, six boxes of wine. [0:43:46 – 0:43:51] Adam: This year was my first BWCA Baron camp on my 15th trip. [0:43:57 – 0:44:00] Adam: I was out in the canoe bobber fishing with the two kids. [0:44:00 – 0:44:07] Adam: My wife was reading a book in camp when an adult bear snuck into camp and was sniffing the blue barrel. [0:44:08 – 0:44:11] Adam: A lot of noise and a few rock throws later and it was gone. [0:44:12 – 0:44:15] Adam: We were already planning to move camp the next morning and did not see it again. [0:44:16 – 0:44:20] Adam: I did sleep with a nice pile of throwing rocks near the hammock that evening though. [0:44:20 – 0:44:29] Adam: This was at one of the lesser used and relatively remote sites that we had stayed at, and the bear did not seem habituated. [0:44:29 – 0:44:35] Adam: We used a combo of Clean Camp, Food Hang, Ursack, and Blue Barrel. [0:44:35 – 0:44:44] Adam: Also had a black bear come to visit while supper was cooking in a wildcat car camping spot near Mount Graham in Arizona back in 2006. [0:44:45 – 0:44:47] Adam: That one also scared off easily. [0:44:47 – 0:44:48] Adam: Edit. [0:44:48 – 0:44:52] Adam: We also bring the food with us while day tripping and fishing. [0:44:52 – 0:45:01] Adam: It’s a bit of a pain to keep the cooler cool and shaded in the canoe, but we use a quick dry towel that gets wetted periodically to negate the solar heat. [0:45:02 – 0:45:03] Adam: Thank you for the comment. [0:45:04 – 0:45:05] Erik: Wetted. [0:45:05 – 0:45:06] Adam: Wetted towels. [0:45:06 – 0:45:09] Adam: Yeah, the boys on the river trip do this. [0:45:09 – 0:45:11] Adam: They got all those Yeti coolers, but they all keep them. [0:45:12 – 0:45:15] Adam: They’re like, oh, these things will keep ice for a week. [0:45:15 – 0:45:20] Adam: But they all do keep them with a wetted towel over the top of them, which apparently helps a lot. [0:45:21 – 0:45:28] Erik: Yeah, that’s a classic throwback to a friend of the show, Dr. Quaz, back in the day. [0:45:28 – 0:45:32] Erik: He’d always, first thing, he’d collect up his throwing rocks. [0:45:32 – 0:45:34] SPEAKER_00: Got to have a big old pile of rocks. [0:45:34 – 0:45:38] Adam: The only time I ever had a pile of rocks was on our Quetico trip. [0:45:38 – 0:45:42] Adam: I always carried some rocks in my pocket on my hoodie in case we saw grouse. [0:45:42 – 0:45:43] Adam: That was for grouse. [0:45:43 – 0:45:47] Adam: And I did actually hit one finally, and it just took off. [0:45:48 – 0:45:48] Adam: Didn’t kill it. [0:45:50 – 0:45:55] Adam: So I guess then I was like, well, that one didn’t much against Ursus Chunkus at all. [0:45:56 – 0:45:56] Adam: No. [0:45:56 – 0:45:57] Adam: Even if you hit it perfectly. [0:45:57 – 0:45:58] Erik: Right between the eyes. [0:45:58 – 0:46:00] Erik: I remember there was bears back in the day at Clearwater. [0:46:00 – 0:46:02] Erik: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [0:46:05 – 0:46:06] Erik: Hanging around the dumpster. [0:46:06 – 0:46:06] Erik: Yeah. [0:46:07 – 0:46:08] Erik: Zing rocks at that thing. [0:46:08 – 0:46:12] Erik: Just constantly just thud and drop to the ground. [0:46:12 – 0:46:13] Erik: Sweetly amused. [0:46:13 – 0:46:14] Erik: And the bear would just do nothing. [0:46:14 – 0:46:17] Erik: You’d not even notice that it just got plunked with a rock on the side. [0:46:17 – 0:46:19] Adam: Was that a butterfly giving me a kiss? [0:46:20 – 0:46:21] Adam: Yeah, basically. [0:46:21 – 0:46:23] Adam: There’s my Ursus Chunkus. [0:46:24 – 0:46:25] Adam: It’s fat bear week. [0:46:25 – 0:46:27] Adam: It’s fat bear month here on Tumble Home. [0:46:27 – 0:46:29] Adam: Yeah, you better look out. [0:46:29 – 0:46:29] Adam: Oh. [0:46:31 – 0:46:38] Erik: Eagle 98MN, 19 trips, and I’ve never had a bear in camp. [0:46:38 – 0:46:41] Erik: It’s only a matter of time, Eagle 98MN. [0:46:42 – 0:46:43] Erik: It’s like the health inspector. [0:46:43 – 0:46:45] Adam: It’s like Janelle’s coming for you. [0:46:45 – 0:46:46] Adam: Coming for your blue veins. [0:46:46 – 0:46:48] Adam: Check your temper, your schweigerts. [0:46:48 – 0:46:54] Erik: We bring mostly freeze-dried food and packaged snacks, so maybe it is a little less attractive than the fresh food. [0:46:55 – 0:46:57] Erik: Everything is packed in one-gallon Ziploc bags. [0:46:58 – 0:47:00] Erik: My first trips we hung with the two-tree method. [0:47:00 – 0:47:03] Erik: I found it really hard to find adequate trees. [0:47:03 – 0:47:11] Erik: Then I learned this one-tree method that just requires a fork in the tree rather than a strong white pine limb, and it made hanging a piece of cake. [0:47:12 – 0:47:15] Erik: We regularly get the bag 15 feet in the air and way out from the tree. [0:47:16 – 0:47:20] Erik: A rock and a bandana with a paracord tied to it makes easy throwing. [0:47:20 – 0:47:26] Erik: The old David and Goliath slingshot technique. [0:47:26 – 0:47:29] Erik: I use a rock climbing carabiner in place of a pulley. [0:47:29 – 0:47:33] Erik: Adam, I promise the link is safe to click, which is exactly what I would tell you. [0:47:33 – 0:47:35] Erik: He’s trying to get us to update our Adobe. [0:47:35 – 0:47:37] Erik: If I was nefarious, but I’m not. [0:47:38 – 0:47:38] Adam: Yeah, right. [0:47:39 – 0:47:39] Adam: Here we go. [0:47:39 – 0:47:40] Adam: Go ahead and click it, Eric. [0:47:41 – 0:47:41] Adam: He’s hovering. [0:47:41 – 0:47:42] Adam: This guy knows how to click. [0:47:43 – 0:47:45] Erik: There’s the one tree method. [0:47:46 – 0:47:48] Adam: Oh, right in the crook of the… Oh. [0:47:48 – 0:47:50] Adam: You have to chop down that tree on the other side. [0:47:50 – 0:47:52] Adam: Yeah, you got to have a bobby stump, though. [0:47:52 – 0:47:53] Adam: You got to have a bobby stump. [0:47:53 – 0:47:55] Adam: Well, every camp’s got a bobby stump. [0:47:55 – 0:47:56] Adam: No problemo. [0:47:56 – 0:47:57] Adam: I see what’s going on here. [0:47:57 – 0:47:57] Adam: Oh, yeah. [0:47:57 – 0:47:58] Adam: It seems like… [0:47:58 – 0:48:00] Adam: Still seems a little difficult. [0:48:01 – 0:48:05] Adam: I just had something occur to me while you’re reading that, and I wonder. [0:48:06 – 0:48:07] Erik: Another cowbell? [0:48:07 – 0:48:09] Adam: This is a new technique I’ve just come up with. [0:48:10 – 0:48:10] Adam: Okay. [0:48:10 – 0:48:14] Adam: Has anybody ever lowered their food pack into the brown volcano? [0:48:14 – 0:48:14] Adam: No. [0:48:15 – 0:48:16] Erik: I feel like we’ve had this conversation before. [0:48:17 – 0:48:21] Erik: Also during the same times that we’ve talked about, maybe like putting it in a canoe and pushing it out. [0:48:21 – 0:48:21] Adam: Right. [0:48:22 – 0:48:23] Adam: Anchoring it out in the lake. [0:48:23 – 0:48:25] Adam: I don’t know if I, but bears can swim. [0:48:25 – 0:48:28] Adam: So I think that one’s out, but would a bear actually go down into the volcano? [0:48:29 – 0:48:34] Erik: Well, you definitely wouldn’t have to worry about the food smells, but I don’t know how close I would want my bear. [0:48:35 – 0:48:39] Adam: Jeff Stinko would probably pull this maneuver off, lay down a sick baseline. [0:48:39 – 0:48:41] Erik: Yeah, this is a Stinko maneuver. [0:48:41 – 0:48:45] Adam: This is a Stinko and Minx scenario, I think, but just throwing it out there. [0:48:45 – 0:48:47] Adam: It might be your own little vault. [0:48:47 – 0:48:49] Adam: Every campsite’s got one. [0:48:49 – 0:48:50] Erik: Like a four- [0:48:50 – 0:48:54] Adam: Yeah, you need a little tiny food pack that fits perfectly inside the brown volcano. [0:48:55 – 0:48:58] Erik: Like a little bear barrel hammock that just kind of lowers in. [0:48:58 – 0:49:03] Adam: Yeah, and then there’s like a cap or whatever, like a bear-proof cap that sits on top to hold it there. [0:49:03 – 0:49:06] Erik: Oh, like instead of putting a boot on the wheel of a car. [0:49:07 – 0:49:08] Erik: Exactly, yeah, yeah. [0:49:08 – 0:49:12] Adam: You’re not going anywhere with this brown volcano, you dirty criminal. [0:49:14 – 0:49:19] Erik: Yeah, if you could get one with a lid, then you just get like the Coghlan’s brand lid locker. [0:49:19 – 0:49:21] Adam: Yeah, Coghlan’s brand volcano lid. [0:49:21 – 0:49:24] Erik: Yeah, and you just take advantage of those. [0:49:24 – 0:49:28] Erik: It has to have a lid and then like some of those ones that have the vent holes on the side. [0:49:28 – 0:49:28] Erik: Yeah. [0:49:29 – 0:49:30] Erik: You plug into the side of the vent hole. [0:49:30 – 0:49:36] Adam: Plus the smell of the volcano would probably mask the smell of your Schweigerts and your Kool-Aid. [0:49:37 – 0:49:37] Erik: Oh, yeah. [0:49:38 – 0:49:38] Adam: Yeah. [0:49:38 – 0:49:44] Erik: And then you’d have your food sitting inches or less away from it. [0:49:44 – 0:49:47] Adam: It’d have to be very well sealed to make me feel good about that. [0:49:47 – 0:49:49] Adam: But I don’t think I could ever feel good about it. [0:49:50 – 0:49:52] Adam: I just, you know, complete opposite. [0:49:53 – 0:49:54] Adam: You know, it’s a curveball. [0:49:54 – 0:49:55] Adam: It’s a knuckleball, really. [0:49:56 – 0:49:58] Erik: If anything, you’d really throw the bears off. [0:49:59 – 0:50:00] Adam: Never trust a knuckleball. [0:50:00 – 0:50:06] Adam: Yeah, they wouldn’t expect it because nobody’s ever tried it unless, oh, I’m sorry, this next comment’s talking about this exact same thing. [0:50:07 – 0:50:09] Erik: Yeah, this guy uses the lid locker. [0:50:13 – 0:50:15] Adam: We call it the anti-lava technique. [0:50:15 – 0:50:21] Adam: All right, next up on the show, a totally normal person, not pulling this kind of nonsense, is Rapshad. [0:50:23 – 0:50:25] Adam: Three boxes of wine 10 days ago. [0:50:26 – 0:50:28] Adam: This past summer, our group had one in camp. [0:50:29 – 0:50:32] Adam: We hang our food and do mostly freeze-dried. [0:50:32 – 0:50:34] Adam: It wasn’t ours or the Bears’ fault. [0:50:35 – 0:50:36] Erik: It had to have been somebody’s fault. [0:50:36 – 0:50:38] Adam: Somebody’s got to be blamed. [0:50:38 – 0:50:40] Adam: Where’s the little gavel? [0:50:42 – 0:50:42] Erik: Here it is. [0:50:43 – 0:50:44] Erik: Oh, that’s way better. [0:50:44 – 0:50:48] Erik: I was going to slam the figgy pudding, but that’s probably dangerous. [0:50:48 – 0:50:49] Adam: Trevor’s court is in session. [0:50:50 – 0:50:51] Adam: It’s somebody’s fault. [0:50:52 – 0:50:54] Adam: Trevor’s looking mad over there. [0:50:54 – 0:50:55] Adam: He wants to blame someone. [0:50:56 – 0:50:58] Erik: He’s just shaking his head back and forth. [0:50:59 – 0:51:00] Adam: Where did he get that wig? [0:51:00 – 0:51:00] Erik: Oh, God. [0:51:01 – 0:51:03] Adam: It wasn’t our fault or the bear’s fault. [0:51:03 – 0:51:07] Adam: The best hanging tree happened to be in the middle of a massive blueberry patch. [0:51:08 – 0:51:09] Adam: Oh, that’s not good. [0:51:09 – 0:51:15] Adam: We went to retrieve our food packs for lunch and spooked a bear having the time of his life in the blueberries. [0:51:16 – 0:51:18] Adam: Not even interested in our food. [0:51:18 – 0:51:20] Adam: He took off immediately when he saw us. [0:51:20 – 0:51:25] Adam: The previous trip, we had a bull, cow, and calf moose walk through the camp in the morning. [0:51:26 – 0:51:28] Adam: That was much more intense of an experience. [0:51:29 – 0:51:31] Adam: Thank you for sharing, Rapshad. [0:51:32 – 0:51:40] Erik: I had a friend the first season I worked at Clearwater who was out camping on deer or moon with her mom. [0:51:41 – 0:51:45] Erik: And they had so many moose in camp over the night that they had to get up and leave. [0:51:45 – 0:51:46] Erik: Too many moose. [0:51:46 – 0:51:49] Erik: They kept running into their guy outlines for their tents. [0:51:49 – 0:51:50] Adam: They’re getting snagged up. [0:51:51 – 0:52:13] Adam: could you imagine all of a sudden a moose trips up on a line that would be the only reason the whole side just like that’s fine if you’re in a tent but can you imagine having a moose get tangled in your hammock oh god yeah your slap straps jesus i’ve never had this hadn’t occurred to me either yeah what if a moose got snagged up in your uh your loops just thrashing hobes hobes are flying [0:52:13 – 0:52:40] Adam: that’s no good yeah that’s not good at all this is why you use party lights stabbing and slapping this is why you gotta have the party lights and you have the twinkles yeah you keep the moose out of your slap straps yeah my god um yeah i’ve seen one of the biggest moose i ever seen was on deer just in the shallows looking for a hammock to get into just looking to get wrapped up in somebody’s tent lines [0:52:41 – 0:53:02] Erik: oh not again yeah i would be they’re freakish you know i i am still much more afraid of running into like one-on-one on the ground a moose than pretty much anything else obviously like i wouldn’t want to get stalked by like a big cat but in all reality that’s never gonna happen you wouldn’t be and be get you in the right and then get you before you knew you’re being stalked [0:53:02 – 0:53:17] Erik: yeah flick me with one of those little one of its little claws like the guy from jurassic park who’s got the velociraptor claw and he clicks a little boy in the beginning that’s right i’m trying to teach them that they’re all birds to begin with they are and feathers [0:53:17 – 0:53:22] Erik: Yeah, go buy in my pants, go be in my pants. [0:53:23 – 0:53:23] Erik: Go be. [0:53:24 – 0:53:24] Erik: Do it. [0:53:25 – 0:53:31] Erik: My first BWCA trip, my Boy Scout troop and I were paddling the Ensign to Knife Loop. [0:53:32 – 0:53:35] Erik: We were told by our outfitter, Tom and Woods. [0:53:36 – 0:53:39] Erik: Wow, the predecessor to Hall and Oates. [0:53:39 – 0:53:39] Erik: Yeah. [0:53:42 – 0:53:43] Erik: Never gonna give you up. [0:53:43 – 0:53:44] Erik: Tom and Woods. [0:53:45 – 0:53:46] Erik: Net you down. [0:53:46 – 0:53:52] Erik: They told him to keep a clean camp, hang our food, and smellables get hung with food at night. [0:53:52 – 0:53:53] Erik: Smellables? [0:53:53 – 0:53:54] Erik: Smellables. [0:53:54 – 0:53:55] Adam: That’s the precursor to the Lunchable. [0:53:56 – 0:53:57] Erik: Yeah, for sure. [0:53:57 – 0:53:59] Erik: Some kind of sugary childish snack. [0:53:59 – 0:54:01] Adam: Just a sock full of Kool-Aid and Schweigerts. [0:54:02 – 0:54:03] Erik: Smellables. [0:54:03 – 0:54:04] Adam: Smellables. [0:54:04 – 0:54:08] Erik: Yeah, it’s for kids who are on a diet. [0:54:08 – 0:54:09] Erik: You only get to smell your lunch today. [0:54:10 – 0:54:12] Adam: It’s a small sombrero filled with lunch meat. [0:54:13 – 0:54:15] Erik: And then is the sombrero edible? [0:54:15 – 0:54:15] Adam: It is. [0:54:15 – 0:54:16] Adam: It’s also made of cheese. [0:54:16 – 0:54:17] Adam: Only smell of it, actually. [0:54:17 – 0:54:19] Adam: Yeah, it’s a cheese head filled with meat. [0:54:20 – 0:54:25] Erik: We did a good job of this, and halfway through our week-long trip, we had no issues. [0:54:25 – 0:54:30] Erik: We would go fishing when time permitted, and I caught a hammer-handled pike. [0:54:30 – 0:54:30] Erik: There you go. [0:54:31 – 0:54:34] Erik: It did what all pike do and slimed me pretty good. [0:54:34 – 0:54:34] Erik: Got him. [0:54:35 – 0:54:38] Erik: Fast forward to 1 a.m. that night, and I hear a noise outside our tent. [0:54:39 – 0:54:40] Erik: Oh no, I thought. [0:54:41 – 0:54:42] Erik: All my clothes are covered in pike slime. [0:54:43 – 0:54:45] Erik: There’s a bear out there and it smells me. [0:54:45 – 0:54:49] Erik: I summon the courage to pop my head out and don’t see a bear. [0:54:49 – 0:54:50] Erik: Instead, it was a grouse. [0:54:53 – 0:54:56] Erik: Kidding, but no bear either, just some forest critters. [0:54:57 – 0:54:58] Erik: There wasn’t even a grouse. [0:54:59 – 0:55:03] Erik: I think he was maybe joking about how the stories about the… [0:55:03 – 0:55:05] Erik: The monsters that people heard. [0:55:05 – 0:55:07] Erik: All the unexplained things just turned out to be a grouse. [0:55:07 – 0:55:10] Erik: It wasn’t a grouse, it was a red orb. [0:55:10 – 0:55:15] Adam: As soon as we started talking about the smellables, the neighborhood dog pack started howling too. [0:55:15 – 0:55:19] Adam: I don’t know if anybody can pick that up on the headphones, but they’re excited for the smellables. [0:55:19 – 0:55:20] Erik: Yeah. [0:55:21 – 0:55:26] Erik: On that trip, we did meet a guy who was solo with his dog that had had bear problems on Knife. [0:55:27 – 0:55:28] Adam: He keeps playing poker with him. [0:55:30 – 0:55:31] Adam: He keeps losing, too. [0:55:31 – 0:55:32] Adam: It’s not good. [0:55:32 – 0:55:35] Adam: Those bears are very crafty. [0:55:35 – 0:55:36] Adam: Dealing off the bottom. [0:55:36 – 0:55:37] Adam: Bluffing, yeah. [0:55:37 – 0:55:41] Erik: He had it paddle our, what? [0:55:41 – 0:55:42] Erik: He had our eye. [0:55:42 – 0:55:47] Erik: He had re-paddle our to a little rock island and sleep under his canoe on it. [0:55:48 – 0:55:49] Adam: The dog? [0:55:49 – 0:55:50] Erik: I don’t know. [0:55:51 – 0:55:56] Erik: He had R.I. paddle over to a little rock island and sleep under his canoe on it. [0:55:56 – 0:55:58] Adam: He had us paddle him out there. [0:55:58 – 0:55:59] Adam: Somebody got paddled to it. [0:55:59 – 0:56:01] Adam: He’s like, take me up to this little rock. [0:56:01 – 0:56:05] Erik: He had us paddle out to a little rock and sleep under his canoe on it. [0:56:06 – 0:56:06] Adam: Nailed it. [0:56:06 – 0:56:07] Erik: There we go. [0:56:07 – 0:56:07] Adam: Yeah. [0:56:08 – 0:56:09] Erik: Figured it out. [0:56:10 – 0:56:11] Erik: Decoding. [0:56:11 – 0:56:14] Adam: Two minds are greater than one. [0:56:14 – 0:56:16] Erik: Poor guy looked like he was put through the ringer mentally. [0:56:17 – 0:56:18] Erik: Yeah, I bet. [0:56:18 – 0:56:19] Erik: You’re by yourself. [0:56:19 – 0:56:22] Adam: You should have brought him a little aluminum burrito to sleep in. [0:56:23 – 0:56:23] Adam: Yeah. [0:56:23 – 0:56:24] Adam: He deployed. [0:56:24 – 0:56:26] Adam: There’s going to be a lot of paperwork. [0:56:26 – 0:56:28] Adam: A lot of explaining to do back at headquarters. [0:56:28 – 0:56:31] Adam: A lot of paperwork. [0:56:31 – 0:56:34] Erik: Yeah, we haven’t even mentioned the TCC that we have coming up tonight. [0:56:34 – 0:56:35] Adam: Oh, my God. [0:56:35 – 0:56:36] Adam: We had a big one. [0:56:36 – 0:56:40] Erik: People have been clamoring for this one, Only the Brave, coming up next tonight. [0:56:40 – 0:56:41] Adam: Only the Brave. [0:56:42 – 0:56:46] Erik: Oh, there’s, I think, maybe enough time here for one more. [0:56:46 – 0:56:48] Adam: All right, then it is time to talk about Only the Brave. [0:56:48 – 0:56:51] Adam: I’ve been waiting two and a half years to watch this movie. [0:56:51 – 0:56:53] Adam: I’ve been waiting a lot longer than that, actually. [0:56:53 – 0:57:05] Adam: The Outside Magazine article about this tragic event came out a long time ago, and the movie came out, and I was sort of like one of those where I want to see it, but I also don’t. [0:57:06 – 0:57:09] Adam: But it’s been on the whiteboard for a long time. [0:57:09 – 0:57:13] Adam: It’s literally on the first column, top of the list up there. [0:57:13 – 0:57:21] Adam: So next up on the show, next up on the show, dear friend of the show, Farjad. [0:57:22 – 0:57:25] Adam: Ten days ago, three boxes of wine. [0:57:27 – 0:57:31] Adam: One of my first or second trips back around 1974, we had a bear in camp. [0:57:32 – 0:57:33] Adam: Church youth group trip. [0:57:33 – 0:57:40] Adam: We banged the pots and pans, got paddles, and made the loudest, biggest, craziest, noisy spectacle we could. [0:57:40 – 0:57:42] Adam: That bear never bothered us again. [0:57:44 – 0:57:45] Adam: Another trip. [0:57:45 – 0:57:47] Erik: I thought it was going to be like that bear didn’t go anywhere. [0:57:48 – 0:57:49] Erik: Just sat and watched. [0:57:49 – 0:57:51] SPEAKER_00: It just played the banjo. [0:57:52 – 0:58:03] Adam: Another trip in the late 70s, we were starting to look for a campsite somewhere along towards Magnetic Lake, might have been close to Little Rock Falls, and we paddled around a bear swimming towards Canada. [0:58:03 – 0:58:09] Adam: We paddled almost to the end of Gunflint Lake before stopping to set up camp. [0:58:10 – 0:58:13] Adam: Since then, about 20 trips and haven’t seen another bear. [0:58:14 – 0:58:18] Adam: We have seen a few moose in recent years in the Horseshoe-Gascon area near the Gunflint Trail. [0:58:19 – 0:58:24] Adam: There was a bear in the area last year, a week after we exited, but no activity for us. [0:58:24 – 0:58:35] Adam: We hang, have climbing carabiners and climbing pulleys, lightweight but big enough, and typically can find a good limb or a fork to get the bag high enough to be out of the reach. [0:58:35 – 0:58:42] Adam: We also take a combination of freeze-dried and fresh food, keep a clean camp, and don’t do anything to attract the bears. [0:58:43 – 0:58:45] Adam: Thank you, Indie Scouter. [0:58:45 – 0:58:46] Adam: Signed it off there. [0:58:46 – 0:58:47] Adam: All right. [0:58:47 – 0:58:48] Adam: Thank you. [0:58:48 – 0:58:49] Adam: No, thank you. [0:58:49 – 0:58:49] Erik: Thank you. [0:58:49 – 0:58:50] Adam: All right. [0:58:51 – 0:58:53] Erik: What was the year that the bear was swimming towards Canada? [0:58:53 – 0:58:54] Adam: Late 70s. [0:58:54 – 0:58:56] Erik: Pre-border patrol, to be sure. [0:58:56 – 0:58:57] Erik: Pre-skies. [0:58:57 – 0:58:59] Erik: The drones didn’t catch that one. [0:58:59 – 0:59:00] Erik: Filled with drones. [0:59:00 – 0:59:06] Adam: That was back when they only used kites with a little key tied to them. [0:59:07 – 0:59:09] Adam: Hey, how’s she going by? [0:59:09 – 0:59:13] Adam: The queen didn’t approve of this swim. [0:59:13 – 0:59:13] Adam: No. [0:59:14 – 0:59:18] Adam: You’re definitely going to get busted by the queen mum on that one, bear. [0:59:19 – 0:59:21] Erik: So we’re starting just, we’re all on the same page. [0:59:21 – 0:59:22] Erik: For the record, yeah. [0:59:22 – 0:59:22] Erik: For the record. [0:59:23 – 0:59:24] Erik: Aperventure. [0:59:25 – 0:59:26] Erik: Aperventure. [0:59:26 – 0:59:26] Erik: Ape. [0:59:27 – 0:59:27] Adam: Ape. [0:59:27 – 0:59:29] Adam: Aperventure. [0:59:29 – 0:59:32] Adam: Next week, we’re starting with Aperventure. [0:59:32 – 0:59:32] Erik: Cartoon. [0:59:33 – 0:59:33] Erik: Ape. [0:59:33 – 0:59:34] Erik: Aperventure. [0:59:34 – 0:59:35] Erik: Oh, wow. [0:59:35 – 0:59:35] Erik: Wow. [0:59:35 – 0:59:36] Erik: Look at that. [0:59:36 – 0:59:36] Erik: All right. [0:59:36 – 0:59:38] Erik: Somebody draw a cartoon of that man. [0:59:39 – 0:59:42] Adam: There is time, of course, if you have a bear story. [0:59:42 – 0:59:43] Erik: Oh, you’re going to confuse it all. [0:59:43 – 0:59:44] Erik: No, I’m sorry. [0:59:44 – 0:59:45] Erik: You can respond still. [0:59:45 – 0:59:47] Adam: We got it all under control. [0:59:47 – 0:59:47] Adam: This is… [0:59:48 – 1:00:14] Adam: don’t worry we never mess this up never go ahead and add more on there and definitely keep voting and upvoting yeah just do a bunch of down vote upvote you know do your best to mess with us but we’re sharp as a tack tonight and we will not mess this up next week or in three weeks whenever we get through this thread but thank you very much for all the comments everybody loves to talk about the ursus chonkus ursus americanus what is the black bear eric [1:00:15 – 1:00:15] Erik: I don’t know. [1:00:15 – 1:00:17] Erik: Ursus Americanus, I think. [1:00:17 – 1:00:18] Adam: I think so. [1:00:19 – 1:00:20] Adam: And they’re sweet. [1:00:21 – 1:00:24] Adam: They’re little sweethearts, but they’re also little stinkers. [1:00:24 – 1:00:25] Adam: Little devils. [1:00:25 – 1:00:26] Adam: They’re little devils. [1:00:27 – 1:00:30] Adam: Poke you in the ticcus with their little pitchfork. [1:00:30 – 1:00:55] Adam: i’ve been looking forward to this episode all week and i cannot wait for part two thank you for the comments and uh we’ll get back to it next week we’re going to talk about only the brave for the tumble home cinema classics folk and a shout out to the patreons of course sorry we haven’t done a tumble home cinema classics lately we had a couple great suggestions for the spooky cinema season coming up here now that we’re into october [1:00:55 – 1:01:19] Adam: but only the brave we are contractually obliged to do one tumble home cinema classic about forest fires every year so we are last year we did always this year we’re doing only the brave uh don’t worry there’s no dreyfus in this one at least so yeah hopefully a year from now i will still remember the fact that i did watch only the brave because i totally forgot i had seen the movie always [1:01:19 – 1:01:20] Adam: Wow, I can’t believe it. [1:01:21 – 1:01:28] Adam: We love seeing movies where they drop water out of a plane and or suck water out of a pool with a straw. [1:01:28 – 1:01:29] Adam: Yeah. [1:01:29 – 1:01:30] Adam: Lucky boy pond, baby. [1:01:30 – 1:01:37] Adam: So, yeah, we’ll get back to the Bears next week, but we got to shut her down for the night and get to the only the brave. [1:01:39 – 1:01:39] Adam: But, yeah. [1:01:41 – 1:01:49] Adam: You know, hopefully we all can learn something from these episodes, but also enjoy the stories because usually they’re not going to bite you by the head. [1:01:49 – 1:01:50] Adam: They’re just going to be a nuisance. [1:01:51 – 1:01:52] Adam: And I learned something tonight, Eric. [1:01:52 – 1:01:55] Adam: You got to have several kinds of cowbells. [1:01:55 – 1:01:56] Erik: Several kinds of cowbells. [1:01:57 – 1:01:57] Erik: At least. [1:01:57 – 1:01:59] Erik: There is a spectrum of cowbells. [1:01:59 – 1:01:59] Adam: Yeah. [1:02:00 – 1:02:00] Erik: All right. [1:02:00 – 1:02:11] Erik: And if you do get bit in the head or neck by a black bear, surely you will end up in the annals of history in Stu Osthoff’s one and only BWGA. [1:02:12 – 1:02:15] Erik: Thank you for the figgy jam, figgy pudding. [1:02:15 – 1:02:19] Adam: Derek and Keegan for the figgy jam and the delicious. [1:02:19 – 1:02:46] Adam: art of neurosis beers i am uh thoroughly enjoying this it’s exploding my head into a multi-colored array of rainbows and thoughts and um it’s been a real treat here being in the shed with the heater on for the first time all season this has been tumble home a proud independent podcast my name has been adam i’m joined here in the shed by my dear figgy pudding loving friend eric thank you for being here eric [1:02:46 – 1:02:47] Erik: What’s 6 times 180? [1:02:47 – 1:02:51] Adam: I don’t know. [1:02:51 – 1:02:55] Adam: That kind of skill set, it’s 360 times 3. [1:02:55 – 1:02:57] Erik: Okay, so you’re getting closer. [1:02:57 – 1:02:58] Adam: Yeah, 900 and 1,128. [1:03:03 – 1:03:04] SPEAKER_00: Nailed it. [1:03:04 – 1:03:06] Adam: And that’s the end of that show. [1:03:06 – 1:03:09] Adam: That’s a lot of sodium is what you’re getting at. [1:03:10 – 1:03:11] Erik: That’s how many calories are in this container. [1:03:12 – 1:03:12] Adam: Oh, my God, yeah. [1:03:12 – 1:03:14] Adam: Well, we can just bring that, and that’s all we have to eat. [1:03:14 – 1:03:16] Adam: And there’s your bear pack. [1:03:16 – 1:03:19] Adam: You can lower that little boy down into the brown volcano. [1:03:21 – 1:03:40] Adam: hang it by a string of yarn a little fishing yeah there you go a little two pound test there you go right into the brown volcano you just eat one can of figgy pudding on your whole trip you’ll have all the calorie needs your human body needs yep exactly if you’re some other kind of being wearing a human skin you might want to bring two cans of figgy pudding [1:03:40 – 1:03:42] Erik: Ready to eat hot or cold. [1:03:42 – 1:03:54] Erik: I will be spending the rest of the month before hopefully our trip into the mudra on spam.com exploring more sizzling recipes for inspiration. [1:03:55 – 1:03:56] Adam: Happy Christmas, Eric. [1:03:56 – 1:04:00] Adam: And as we always say on Dumbledore, life is precious. [1:04:01 – 1:04:02] Adam: God bless us, Harry. [1:04:02 – 1:04:04] Adam: God bless every one of us. [1:04:04 – 1:04:07] Adam: As we always say on this podcast, you’re a wizard, Harry. [1:04:07 – 1:04:11] Adam: All right. [1:04:11 – 1:04:12] Adam: Have a good night, everybody. [1:04:13 – 1:04:14] Adam: Good night. [1:04:15 – 1:04:16] Adam: Good night, Dumbledore. [1:04:17 – 1:04:18] Erik: Rip. [1:04:50 – 1:04:50] UNKNOWN: Bye. [1:05:27 – 1:05:28] UNKNOWN: Thank you. [1:06:24 – 1:06:25] UNKNOWN: Thank you.

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