Episode Transcript
[0:00:02 – 0:00:04] Erik: The whistle has been soaked.
[0:00:07 – 0:00:12] Adam: He’s wetted the whistle.
[0:00:12 – 0:00:13] Erik: It sounds the same.
[0:00:14 – 0:00:15] Erik: Pull in the station, Tomahawk Express.
[0:00:24 – 0:00:27] Adam: Coming to you live from Studio K. My name is Adam.
[0:00:27 – 0:00:29] Adam: I’m joined here with the conductor himself, Eric.
[0:00:30 – 0:00:31] Adam: Hello, Eric.
[0:00:31 – 0:00:32] Erik: Hello.
[0:00:32 – 0:00:34] Erik: I am the conductor.
[0:00:36 – 0:00:39] Erik: All aboard to Station Seagull.
[0:00:40 – 0:00:43] Adam: We’re going to pour a lot of extra coal in the chamber for this one.
[0:00:43 – 0:00:45] Erik: You’re going to need a lot of extra coal in the chamber.
[0:00:45 – 0:00:46] Adam: We need two shovelers.
[0:00:46 – 0:00:47] Erik: No doubt.
[0:00:48 – 0:00:53] Erik: We need a Buster Keaton on our side to get this train to the station.
[0:00:55 – 0:01:02] Erik: Seagull Lake, one we have really never talked about, focused on in any way, shape, or form.
[0:01:03 – 0:01:04] Erik: It’s too big.
[0:01:05 – 0:01:06] Erik: It’s too popular.
[0:01:06 – 0:01:09] Erik: It’s a bit of a powerhouse of a lake.
[0:01:10 – 0:01:12] Erik: You’ve got Seagull Lake permits.
[0:01:12 – 0:01:15] Erik: You’ve got Seagull Lake only permits.
[0:01:15 – 0:01:17] Erik: Entry point 54.
[0:01:18 – 0:01:19] Adam: That’s right, 54.
[0:01:19 – 0:01:22] Erik: Up at almost the end of the Gunflint Trail.
[0:01:23 – 0:01:24] Adam: Is that a different number for the Seagull only’s?
[0:01:25 – 0:01:26] Erik: Yeah, I think it’s 54A.
[0:01:26 – 0:01:27] Adam: And 54A.
[0:01:27 – 0:01:39] Erik: And I don’t know how many of those there are, but there are 11 Seagull permits per day, which seems low.
[0:01:40 – 0:01:40] Adam: That does seem low.
[0:01:40 – 0:01:42] Adam: I was going to guess like 20.
[0:01:42 – 0:01:45] Adam: Yeah, I mean, this seems like there’s 20.
[0:01:45 – 0:01:51] Erik: Just there’s so much you can do on and off of Seagull.
[0:01:51 – 0:01:52] Adam: Have you looked?
[0:01:52 – 0:01:55] Adam: There’s no 62s left until 2024 at this point.
[0:01:55 – 0:01:57] Adam: How many 54s are out there?
[0:01:57 – 0:01:58] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:01:58 – 0:01:59] Adam: There’s a number.
[0:01:59 – 0:02:00] Adam: Can you generate a report?
[0:02:00 – 0:02:05] Erik: I don’t want to say anything about permits because I feel like we have an effect on them now.
[0:02:05 – 0:02:07] Erik: Nobody cares what we think.
[0:02:07 – 0:02:08] Erik: There’s a bunch of seagulls.
[0:02:10 – 0:02:11] Adam: Oh, I love meads.
[0:02:11 – 0:02:13] Adam: I love meads permits.
[0:02:13 – 0:02:14] Erik: We really love meads.
[0:02:14 – 0:02:16] Adam: Go get those meads.
[0:02:16 – 0:02:21] Adam: If you see any left, buy them up and hold with diamond hands, folks.
[0:02:21 – 0:02:22] Erik: That’s right.
[0:02:22 – 0:02:24] Erik: Hold those meads permits.
[0:02:24 – 0:02:24] Erik: Hold those meads.
[0:02:24 – 0:02:26] Erik: Meads permit.
[0:02:26 – 0:02:27] Adam: We’re generating a report here.
[0:02:27 – 0:02:29] Adam: We’re seeing the fancy back end.
[0:02:30 – 0:02:34] Adam: You can’t see this because you’re listening to the show on a podcast.
[0:02:35 – 0:02:37] Adam: But Eric’s generating a report right now.
[0:02:37 – 0:02:38] Adam: My, look at this.
[0:02:39 – 0:02:41] Erik: Meads Lake permits are the GME of permits.
[0:02:41 – 0:02:43] Erik: Is that what you’re saying?
[0:02:43 – 0:02:48] Adam: Stick it to the man and get a Meads permit and don’t ever let go.
[0:02:48 – 0:02:51] Erik: Let’s go to the heat, the heart of the season.
[0:02:51 – 0:02:52] Erik: We’re into July here.
[0:02:53 – 0:02:53] Adam: Heaters.
[0:02:55 – 0:02:56] Erik: Oh, look at that.
[0:02:56 – 0:02:58] Erik: There’s a whole bunch of Clearwater permits on July 12th.
[0:02:58 – 0:02:59] Adam: You should get that.
[0:03:00 – 0:03:04] Adam: Hey, outfitter buddy, can you grab that for me, bud?
[0:03:04 – 0:03:06] Adam: I need all three.
[0:03:06 – 0:03:08] Adam: I’m going to sell them on Craigslist.
[0:03:09 – 0:03:10] Erik: Oh, there’s a bunch of seagull permits left.
[0:03:10 – 0:03:11] Erik: Look at that.
[0:03:11 – 0:03:13] Erik: Eight, nine, eight, three, six, seven, ten.
[0:03:13 – 0:03:15] Erik: A couple of zeros in there.
[0:03:15 – 0:03:16] Adam: Yeah.
[0:03:16 – 0:03:17] Erik: What is that?
[0:03:17 – 0:03:22] Erik: I think there’s two seagull only permits a day and 11.
[0:03:23 – 0:03:23] Erik: That’s what it looks like.
[0:03:24 – 0:03:24] Erik: Seagull.
[0:03:25 – 0:03:30] Erik: But then you’ve got just to the north, you’ve got 17 a day on SAG, which kind of feeds into the same lakes.
[0:03:31 – 0:03:32] Erik: Sure.
[0:03:32 – 0:03:33] Erik: More or less.
[0:03:33 – 0:03:37] Erik: Basically, everybody entering in on SAG and or seagull.
[0:03:37 – 0:03:38] Erik: SAG and a GA, that is.
[0:03:39 – 0:04:03] Erik: is either heading north and or west there really isn’t any going east but to the west is the bulk of the boundary waters you’ve got unlimited routing options depending on what your heart desires archway over the portage into alpine take your schooners and head on down this way what do you mean by an archway
[0:04:04 – 0:04:06] Adam: It’s like a St. Louis reference, I guess.
[0:04:06 – 0:04:07] Adam: It’s like a gateway arch.
[0:04:08 – 0:04:09] Adam: Gateway port.
[0:04:09 – 0:04:11] Erik: It is a gateway entry point for sure.
[0:04:11 – 0:04:13] Adam: You can go anywhere from there.
[0:04:13 – 0:04:24] Adam: You really can, which is… Load up on… You got to make sure you get an extra yoke for your canoe and 500 boxes of bullets.
[0:04:25 – 0:04:27] Adam: You’re going to hit a lot of bullets for that trip.
[0:04:27 – 0:04:29] Erik: Yes, extra yokes for sure.
[0:04:30 – 0:04:31] Erik: You know you’re going to break a couple of those fording.
[0:04:32 – 0:04:36] Adam: You’re going to want to get at least 100 pounds of provisions.
[0:04:39 – 0:04:39] Adam: Hard tack.
[0:04:40 – 0:04:40] Adam: Hard tack.
[0:04:40 – 0:04:43] Adam: You’re going to load up on hard tack going through the arch.
[0:04:43 – 0:04:45] Adam: Anyways, they’re never going to put up an arch.
[0:04:45 – 0:04:46] Adam: I don’t know what I’m talking about.
[0:04:48 – 0:04:55] Erik: The actual Boundary Waters does not start until roughly a little over a mile after you put in.
[0:04:57 – 0:05:25] Erik: on either there’s essentially three places you can put in to access the entry point that is 54 or 54 a seagull lake blankenberg landing that’s the public access trails and campground also a public access but it does involve a bit of a uh a little bit of a there’s like a slip stream kind of coming in there yeah yeah if the water is flowing a little bit too swift yeah i’ve seen it mess with people
[0:05:25 – 0:05:33] Erik: Yeah, I almost capsized on one year, like two days after ice out, we put in on the Trails End side and had to get up.
[0:05:33 – 0:05:36] Erik: We tried paddling up that little- Yeah, there’s a little portage around it.
[0:05:36 – 0:05:37] Erik: There is a portage.
[0:05:37 – 0:05:37] Erik: We ended up taking it.
[0:05:38 – 0:05:38] Adam: We’re not.
[0:05:38 – 0:05:39] Adam: We can paddle through this.
[0:05:40 – 0:05:42] Erik: Yeah, we literally got turned sideways.
[0:05:42 – 0:05:43] Adam: Don’t mess with that channel.
[0:05:44 – 0:05:48] Erik: Yeah, we had to bust out the Yukon Jack a little bit earlier to calm our nerves.
[0:05:48 – 0:05:49] Erik: Easy.
[0:05:49 – 0:05:51] Erik: Hoary nights.
[0:05:51 – 0:05:54] Erik: That’s H-O-A-R-Y.
[0:05:54 – 0:05:55] Erik: Hoary nights.
[0:05:56 – 0:05:57] Erik: from the Yukon Jacks.
[0:05:57 – 0:06:02] Erik: And then there’s always Seagull Outfitters you can put in there if you’re outfitting with them.
[0:06:03 – 0:06:19] Erik: So a few different places, and not to jump the gun too far on pro tips, but my pro tip already, I’m just going to throw it out there, is stay flexible in that entry point in terms of what actual public access you want to use.
[0:06:19 – 0:06:20] Erik: Because
[0:06:21 – 0:06:28] Erik: If the wind’s up, you definitely want to stay flexible on that and probably go ahead and use that trails end access.
[0:06:28 – 0:06:30] Erik: That allows you the most protection.
[0:06:31 – 0:06:35] Erik: If it’s a nice, calm, placid, hashtag DCR.
[0:06:35 – 0:06:38] Adam: Dead, calm reflections.
[0:06:38 – 0:06:44] Erik: You can put in right at that Blankenburg landing and just be fine, but it is a little bit of an exposed public access.
[0:06:45 – 0:06:48] Adam: Yeah, to a traditional west or northwest wind, especially.
[0:06:48 – 0:06:49] Adam: It’s going to be rough getting out of there.
[0:06:50 – 0:06:51] Erik: Yeah, and Seagull is…
[0:06:51 – 0:06:55] Adam: I’ve also seen people just paddling out in like crazy rollers off of that.
[0:06:55 – 0:06:56] Erik: It’s a massive lake.
[0:06:57 – 0:06:59] Erik: This is going to go.
[0:06:59 – 0:06:59] Erik: Yeah.
[0:06:59 – 0:07:08] Erik: The one upside to the size of the lake is it is pretty well dotted with islands and…
[0:07:09 – 0:07:10] Erik: It’s bedotted.
[0:07:10 – 0:07:11] Erik: Bays for sportsmen.
[0:07:12 – 0:07:15] Erik: No, islands and peninsulas that will allow you to…
[0:07:17 – 0:07:19] Erik: Yeah, there are some big open stretches that you want to be aware of.
[0:07:20 – 0:07:26] Erik: And I’m looking towards the west end of the lake there where it’s kind of just a big open maw.
[0:07:26 – 0:07:27] Erik: You might want to avoid that.
[0:07:27 – 0:07:33] Erik: But it’s not like some of those lakes in the Vento or like Gunflint Lake where it’s like, well, it’s windy.
[0:07:34 – 0:07:35] Erik: No place to hide.
[0:07:36 – 0:07:37] Erik: There’s so many places you can…
[0:07:38 – 0:07:45] Erik: Bob and weave your way off of seagull, especially on that north side of the lake, the way that it kind of curls down.
[0:07:46 – 0:07:51] Erik: Even a west wind, if you stay on the north shore of seagull, should be pretty well manageable.
[0:07:53 – 0:07:56] Erik: Yeah, access, again, put in right on the lake.
[0:07:57 – 0:08:02] Erik: You could spend a weekend or more just on Seagull Lake itself.
[0:08:02 – 0:08:06] Erik: It’s a very fine base camp lake.
[0:08:07 – 0:08:08] Erik: Great fishing.
[0:08:09 – 0:08:12] Erik: It has been affected by the Cavity Lake and Ham Lake fire.
[0:08:13 – 0:08:37] Erik: fighters but the majority of the campsites are they’ve been pretty well preserved and it’s really coming back honestly camping on seagull is um is pretty great big big lake great campsites throughout some nice sand beach campsites some nice island campsites so just as a base camp lake um
[0:08:38 – 0:08:42] Erik: And along with fishing, you know, sometimes you’re like, well, base camping, well, what am I going to do?
[0:08:43 – 0:08:47] Erik: Seagull, you could spend a weekend, if not more, just base camping and fishing.
[0:08:47 – 0:08:48] Adam: And picking blueberries.
[0:08:48 – 0:08:49] Adam: And picking blueberries.
[0:08:49 – 0:08:51] Erik: There’s still, you know, it’s not like the heyday.
[0:08:51 – 0:08:52] Adam: It’s not the old days, yeah.
[0:08:53 – 0:08:54] Adam: But there’s still some blueberries to be found.
[0:08:55 – 0:09:08] Erik: Still better blueberry picking up there than most areas, but it’s not like the four or five years after those fires where it was just like you could just take a rake and hit a bush onto a tarp and have five gallons.
[0:09:08 – 0:09:13] Adam: Yeah, the lake is bespotted with campsites, and it’s also buried with a lot of berries out there.
[0:09:13 – 0:09:14] Adam: Buried.
[0:09:14 – 0:09:14] Adam: Buried.
[0:09:18 – 0:09:23] Adam: I saw a bear wearing a bucket hat out there one time.
[0:09:24 – 0:09:25] Adam: That’s how popular it is.
[0:09:25 – 0:09:26] Erik: Well, there is that.
[0:09:26 – 0:09:27] Adam: Drinking the hams.
[0:09:27 – 0:09:34] Erik: Last year, the Forest Service did put in a restriction that all food needed to be kept in a bear safe container.
[0:09:35 – 0:09:36] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:09:36 – 0:09:38] Erik: I don’t know if that’s going to be true again.
[0:09:38 – 0:09:43] Adam: No, I think they went back to their standard of it’s got to be in a cardboard box.
[0:09:43 – 0:09:43] Erik: Just loose.
[0:09:43 – 0:09:44] Adam: Okay.
[0:09:44 – 0:09:45] Erik: A loose duffel bag.
[0:09:45 – 0:09:46] Erik: Yeah.
[0:09:47 – 0:09:48] Adam: I haven’t heard the term duffel bag in a while.
[0:09:48 – 0:09:50] Adam: Hmm.
[0:09:50 – 0:09:52] Adam: So keep that in mind.
[0:09:52 – 0:09:52] Erik: I don’t like that.
[0:09:52 – 0:10:00] Erik: There has been some bear activity in the seagull, red rock, Alpine and Jasper neck of the woods.
[0:10:01 – 0:10:03] Erik: Um, so that could change.
[0:10:04 – 0:10:09] Erik: It could stay the same, but for whatever reason, there’s a little bit more bear activity up there.
[0:10:10 – 0:10:10] Erik: Um,
[0:10:11 – 0:10:14] Erik: but the popularity of the lake, I would say is still middling.
[0:10:15 – 0:10:22] Erik: And it might just be because there’s so many permits that it seems like you can almost always get a seagull lake permit because there’s 11.
[0:10:22 – 0:10:22] Erik: Um,
[0:10:24 – 0:10:34] Erik: But, yeah, it’s not one of those – it’s not that it’s not worthwhile, but it doesn’t seem like one of those coveted permits.
[0:10:34 – 0:10:39] Erik: There’s like three or four of them on the gun front where it’s just like, man, that thing’s – that permit’s gone already.
[0:10:40 – 0:10:42] Erik: This is like just looking at the permits just a minute ago.
[0:10:44 – 0:10:47] Erik: If you can be flexible, there’s almost always going to be a Seagull permit.
[0:10:48 – 0:10:52] Erik: And I’ve never gotten the sense out there when I’ve paddled or camped that it’s a crowded lake at all.
[0:10:52 – 0:11:03] Erik: There is a couple of sections where motorboats are allowed, like up to the line of the Bajri waters, and then I think south of Three Mile Island, all the way to the tip of it, you can have motors.
[0:11:04 – 0:11:06] Erik: But for the most part, it is a motor-free lake.
[0:11:07 – 0:11:12] Erik: Great introductory Boundary Waters permit, especially with that base camping involved.
[0:11:13 – 0:11:22] Erik: And if it was me, I would prefer to find a campsite on Seagull versus portaging into Alpine or Jasper.
[0:11:22 – 0:11:29] Erik: For whatever reason, that lake seems like it is still like the fire happened like yesterday.
[0:11:29 – 0:11:30] Adam: Yeah, those lakes scare me.
[0:11:31 – 0:11:32] Erik: Alpine is a moonscape still.
[0:11:34 – 0:11:37] Erik: But for whatever reason, Seagull is coming around.
[0:11:37 – 0:11:43] Erik: There’s some decent regrowth, and the campsites were not as scorched as those ones on Alpine.
[0:11:44 – 0:11:47] Adam: I’m batting a hundred on getting lost on Alpine for sure.
[0:11:48 – 0:11:48] Adam: Jasper.
[0:11:48 – 0:11:50] Adam: They’re both hard to navigate.
[0:11:50 – 0:11:51] Erik: Lots of islands on both of those lakes.
[0:11:51 – 0:11:52] Erik: Yeah.
[0:11:52 – 0:12:10] Erik: So I would recommend either like base camping on Seagull, maybe taking some day trips or using it as an entry point to put together, you know, a bigger loop that has you heading out towards like Ogish, Comunsee, South Arm of Knife or vice versa, where you kind of put together like a out Ogish and then down, uh,
[0:12:11 – 0:12:40] Erik: to like gabby michigami come out like out on round or something oh yeah it’s kind of tough to put together a southern loop off of seagull that doesn’t have you ruggedly trudging back up through some kind of remote trout lakes like you gotta come up through flying and paulson that portage from paulson to seagull is no joke i’ve never done it and i’d never want to
[0:12:40 – 0:12:41] Erik: No, it’s brutal.
[0:12:41 – 0:12:45] Erik: It’s, I mean, it’s like a multiple up and downs.
[0:12:45 – 0:12:48] Erik: I mean, it makes the Tuscarora missing link portage look like a highway.
[0:12:48 – 0:12:49] Adam: I’d take it back.
[0:12:49 – 0:12:49] Adam: I’d do it.
[0:12:50 – 0:12:50] Adam: Yeah, sure.
[0:12:50 – 0:12:52] Adam: Did you know I ate a banana this week?
[0:12:53 – 0:12:54] Erik: I mean, that’s crazy to me.
[0:12:54 – 0:12:54] Adam: I know.
[0:12:55 – 0:12:55] Adam: I’d written them off.
[0:12:56 – 0:12:56] Adam: I said, they’re gross.
[0:12:57 – 0:12:57] Adam: They’re mushy.
[0:12:59 – 0:13:00] Adam: But I ate one today.
[0:13:00 – 0:13:01] Adam: Not today, but this week.
[0:13:01 – 0:13:02] Adam: They’re gross.
[0:13:02 – 0:13:03] Adam: They’re mushy.
[0:13:03 – 0:13:04] Erik: And they ruin juicers.
[0:13:04 – 0:13:05] Adam: They do.
[0:13:06 – 0:13:06] Adam: They’ll break your juicer.
[0:13:07 – 0:13:08] Adam: So never say never.
[0:13:09 – 0:13:09] Adam: I eat a banana.
[0:13:09 – 0:13:10] Adam: Maybe I will do it.
[0:13:10 – 0:13:12] Adam: I’m not going to rule anything out.
[0:13:12 – 0:13:13] Adam: Maybe it’ll be fun.
[0:13:15 – 0:13:16] Adam: Maybe it’d be fun.
[0:13:16 – 0:13:17] Adam: Depends on how much weight you’re carrying.
[0:13:19 – 0:13:34] Erik: Yeah, the fishing up in this neck of the woods, I would say, is Boundary Waters’ top tier fishing, specifically walleye, pike, and trout, and smallmouth bass.
[0:13:34 – 0:13:38] Erik: I mean, you’re in good Grand Slam territory up on Seagull.
[0:13:38 – 0:13:39] Erik: Yeah, yeah.
[0:13:39 – 0:13:43] Erik: Up on Sag, up on even Alpine and Jasper.
[0:13:43 – 0:13:44] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:13:44 – 0:13:44] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:13:44 – 0:13:44] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:13:45 – 0:13:46] Erik: Lots of good moving water through there.
[0:13:47 – 0:14:01] Erik: I mean, when anybody is coming to me as an outfitter specifically asking about, you know, I want predominantly a trip based on fishing, you know, yeah, the Vento unit’s pretty.
[0:14:01 – 0:14:02] Erik: It’s got the cliffs.
[0:14:02 – 0:14:04] Erik: It’s got the clean water.
[0:14:04 – 0:14:14] Erik: But it doesn’t pop up immediately in my mind when somebody’s like, I want to catch fish and I want to spend most of my time fishing.
[0:14:15 – 0:14:15] Adam: There you go.
[0:14:16 – 0:14:22] Erik: When those questions become more important, then I start looking towards the end of the Gunflint Trail and this area.
[0:14:22 – 0:14:27] Adam: You don’t need to waste time portaging and packing light if you’re just going to go out and fish on seagull.
[0:14:27 – 0:14:27] Erik: Yep.
[0:14:28 – 0:14:33] Erik: And even if you are portaging, they’re relatively short, straightforward.
[0:14:33 – 0:14:37] Erik: Like that portage between seagull and alpine is just like a gravel walkway.
[0:14:37 – 0:14:40] Adam: Actually, they did install a moving walkway under the arch last year.
[0:14:40 – 0:14:42] Adam: So now it’s real automated.
[0:14:43 – 0:14:46] Erik: Yeah, I mean, you can make the, we’ve done it in the past.
[0:14:46 – 0:14:47] Erik: We’ve done it multiple times.
[0:14:47 – 0:14:49] Adam: I got Tim Hortons on there now, too.
[0:14:49 – 0:14:54] Adam: You can get, you can order your, you can order whatever you want at the beginning of the portage.
[0:14:54 – 0:14:54] Adam: Timbits?
[0:14:55 – 0:14:57] Adam: Yeah, you get your bits, bucket of bits.
[0:14:57 – 0:14:59] Adam: Bucket of bits.
[0:15:01 – 0:15:06] Adam: It’s in a bucket of gravy that’s delivered right into your pack at the end of the portage.
[0:15:06 – 0:15:07] Erik: It’ll be there waiting for you.
[0:15:08 – 0:15:08] Adam: Pretty nice.
[0:15:09 – 0:15:15] Erik: Yeah, you can make a run from Seagull all the way out to the South Arm of Knife pretty easily in a day or vice versa.
[0:15:15 – 0:15:18] Erik: You know, it’s…
[0:15:20 – 0:15:26] Erik: Looking at a knife lake route, you know, going out to like Thunder Point and back with a loop up onto the border lakes.
[0:15:27 – 0:15:32] Erik: I don’t know if there’s necessarily an advantageous direction to go, whether that’s counterclockwise or clockwise.
[0:15:32 – 0:15:34] Erik: It might just be based on…
[0:15:34 – 0:15:40] Adam: The advantageous way to go is to get a toe out to the point and then work your way back through Siegel.
[0:15:41 – 0:15:43] Erik: That is typically a good way to do it.
[0:15:43 – 0:15:49] Adam: It’s better to get the toe out than to get the toe back because then you’ve got to stress about meeting your deadline.
[0:15:49 – 0:15:50] Erik: Yeah, the timing of getting to.
[0:15:50 – 0:15:54] Adam: Otherwise, you just paddle in at your leisure through Siegel coming back from knife.
[0:15:55 – 0:15:55] Adam: That’s the way to go.
[0:15:56 – 0:16:11] Erik: Yeah, I think, I mean, yeah, we’re kind of straying from the specific entry point, but really it would behoove you to go, you know, counterclockwise with a SAG and a GA permit, get that tow out to American Point.
[0:16:11 – 0:16:14] Erik: Unless you’ve never paddled SAG before, everybody should paddle at once.
[0:16:14 – 0:16:24] Adam: The way I want to do it, which I’ve never done on the paddle, is to go up through like Grandpa and then kind of paddle up past English Island there and then around.
[0:16:24 – 0:16:24] Erik: Yeah.
[0:16:25 – 0:16:26] Adam: I’ve never come up from that way.
[0:16:26 – 0:16:28] Erik: That would be, yeah, we got to color in the map.
[0:16:29 – 0:16:32] Adam: And then, you know, just loop your way all the way back around to Seagull.
[0:16:32 – 0:16:33] Erik: For sure.
[0:16:33 – 0:16:57] Erik: full looper full looper yeah yeah well we’ve got the uh fourth of brulee permit secured for this upcoming season but it might be the last fourth of brulee trip i was thinking of changing things up and maybe doing like sag motorboats next year get that sweet campsite on the south side of englishman’s island basically just that beach party site bring out a volleyball net yeah i’m pretty good at volleyball
[0:16:58 – 0:17:00] Erik: Yeah, you were on a co-ed team for a while there, weren’t you?
[0:17:01 – 0:17:01] Erik: That’s right.
[0:17:01 – 0:17:02] Adam: I was, yeah.
[0:17:02 – 0:17:03] Adam: Yeah.
[0:17:03 – 0:17:05] Adam: I was like the Karch Corrali of that league.
[0:17:05 – 0:17:06] Erik: Is that a volleyball player?
[0:17:07 – 0:17:07] Adam: Yes.
[0:17:07 – 0:17:07] Adam: Oh, wow.
[0:17:07 – 0:17:09] Adam: He’s a gold medalist, Eric.
[0:17:09 – 0:17:10] UNKNOWN: Okay.
[0:17:10 – 0:17:12] Adam: Looks great in short shorts.
[0:17:12 – 0:17:16] Erik: Yeah, I don’t know anything about any form of volleyball, whether it be sand…
[0:17:18 – 0:17:21] Erik: or cement or whatever form of medium they play on.
[0:17:21 – 0:17:33] Adam: There’s a beach on Seagull to bring it back to Seagull, and it’s definitely a good spot to work on your bump and set game, but you’re not going to have enough room usually for a net there at the beach because it’s a thin beach.
[0:17:34 – 0:17:37] Adam: But you could just set one up in the water and have an old divey.
[0:17:37 – 0:17:38] Erik: I’ve always wanted to try that.
[0:17:38 – 0:17:43] Adam: Yeah, that would be the perfect spot to set up a little divey net and kind of play that.
[0:17:44 – 0:17:48] Adam: You can either kick it or use your hands to bump the ball.
[0:17:50 – 0:18:17] Adam: i don’t know what they call that is that brazilian style volleyball where you can play with your feet yeah you play with everything wherever you can get to it it’s like soccer meets volleyball sure i don’t know why are you only allowed to use your feet it should just oh no i would like to use anything i want yeah only using your feet would be that would be a very quick game before i get frustrated and quit yeah i mean we can’t even barely get a hack and hacky sack no and you’re asking me to jump and kick a ball over a net
[0:18:17 – 0:18:20] Erik: a bouncier version of a, a hacky sack.
[0:18:21 – 0:18:21] Erik: Yeah.
[0:18:21 – 0:18:22] Adam: Anyways, the beach is pretty nice there.
[0:18:22 – 0:18:25] Erik: That’s an underrated, like that’s a pro.
[0:18:25 – 0:18:26] Erik: There’s a pro tip there.
[0:18:26 – 0:18:33] Erik: Not even really having anything to do with, um, the entry points or a Bonjouer’s trip at all.
[0:18:33 – 0:18:39] Erik: But if you’re on the Gunflint trail, yeah, there is a sweet beach at the Seagull public access.
[0:18:39 – 0:18:41] Erik: Like if you drive in there, there’s a big parking lot.
[0:18:41 – 0:18:43] Erik: There’s the dock, the Blankenburg landing.
[0:18:44 – 0:18:44] Erik: But like,
[0:18:44 – 0:19:09] Erik: under like known and underappreciated just to the north of there like right just to the north of where the uh u.s forest service outhouse is yeah slash changing room slash changing room there’s a path that goes out to a very nice beach which yeah it’s it’s relatively thin but like the swimming and how far out it goes you can walk forever it goes out for like 100 yards and it’s only like knee to thigh deep
[0:19:09 – 0:19:14] Adam: They got two dolphins that live there year round and they will swim with you too.
[0:19:14 – 0:19:14] Adam: They will.
[0:19:15 – 0:19:16] Adam: They’ll play the kicky ball.
[0:19:17 – 0:19:18] Adam: They can kick it with their flippers.
[0:19:19 – 0:19:20] Adam: Use anything you want.
[0:19:20 – 0:19:22] Adam: Hands, legs, flippers.
[0:19:23 – 0:19:25] Adam: You just kick the old bouncy ball.
[0:19:25 – 0:19:26] Erik: Yeah.
[0:19:26 – 0:19:27] Adam: That’s a good one.
[0:19:27 – 0:19:29] Adam: And then it just abruptly gets super deep.
[0:19:30 – 0:19:30] Adam: It does drop off.
[0:19:30 – 0:19:30] Adam: Watch out.
[0:19:31 – 0:19:34] Adam: That’s where we were ice fishing and slash skating.
[0:19:34 – 0:19:36] Adam: Yeah, that was a good skating location.
[0:19:38 – 0:19:46] Adam: My real pro tip on Seagull Lake would be our pictograph, apparently, on some rocks up there.
[0:19:47 – 0:19:49] Adam: Yeah, Eric’s pointing to them kind of.
[0:19:50 – 0:19:51] Erik: I don’t know where they are.
[0:19:51 – 0:19:52] Erik: I’m just zooming in slightly.
[0:19:52 – 0:19:54] Adam: Yeah, you’re kind of pointing to them.
[0:19:54 – 0:19:55] Adam: Yeah, over there.
[0:19:56 – 0:19:58] Adam: Maybe a little left.
[0:19:58 – 0:19:59] Adam: What’s the name of that?
[0:20:00 – 0:20:02] Erik: There’s Miles Island.
[0:20:04 – 0:20:23] Adam: point yeah it’s kind of over there i don’t know i don’t know exactly where it is but i was in doing research for the pictograph episodes there was numerous uh numerous points of information that there are some available wow that’s a nice shirt i’ve been looking at cabana shirts
[0:20:23 – 0:20:25] Adam: Look at that.
[0:20:25 – 0:20:26] Adam: Isn’t that great?
[0:20:26 – 0:20:27] Adam: Is that made of velvet?
[0:20:27 – 0:20:28] Adam: It is.
[0:20:28 – 0:20:28] Adam: Oh, my God.
[0:20:28 – 0:20:29] Adam: That’s terrible.
[0:20:30 – 0:20:31] Erik Giggling: Look at that big zipper.
[0:20:33 – 0:20:34] Adam: Sorry.
[0:20:35 – 0:20:41] Adam: Yeah, over by Miles Island, there’s some decent cliffs in that area, too.
[0:20:41 – 0:20:41] Adam: It’s just cool.
[0:20:42 – 0:20:42] Adam: That’s a cool area.
[0:20:43 – 0:20:43] Erik: It is.
[0:20:43 – 0:20:51] Erik: There’s the Palisades, the Seagull Palisades that were on the Ham Lake ads for the longest time.
[0:20:52 – 0:20:53] Adam: It’s near the Palisades.
[0:20:53 – 0:20:54] Adam: I’ll say that.
[0:20:54 – 0:21:00] Adam: But you can look around the internet a little bit and you can find more information if you are interested.
[0:21:00 – 0:21:01] Adam: I’ve never been able to find them.
[0:21:01 – 0:21:07] Adam: I know one time we were paddling through there and I thought I saw them, but this is before I even knew that they were supposed to be there.
[0:21:07 – 0:21:14] Adam: But allegedly what they are is they’re very, it’s a very small, but it’s a traditional red ochre color.
[0:21:15 – 0:21:20] Adam: It’s undefined as to what it is supposed to represent, but they’re apparently there.
[0:21:20 – 0:21:25] Adam: So that’s always been one where like next time I get on Seagull, I want to get over there and look for those.
[0:21:26 – 0:21:35] Erik: Yeah, well, there is a potential for maybe some winter seagull camping if the nice hard cement winter travel conditions persist.
[0:21:35 – 0:21:36] Adam: I think they will.
[0:21:36 – 0:21:38] Adam: I mean, you can basically walk anywhere you want right now.
[0:21:38 – 0:21:39] Erik: Yep.
[0:21:39 – 0:21:41] Adam: Everything’s melted down and refroze.
[0:21:41 – 0:21:43] Adam: I mean, you just need some yak tracks, to be honest.
[0:21:43 – 0:21:44] Erik: Yeah, yakkers.
[0:21:45 – 0:21:53] Erik: Seagull Lake, it’s a great place to start if you’re not against just a little bit of, at this point,
[0:21:55 – 0:22:19] Erik: fire damage that’s still apparent it’s getting less and less noticeable especially on seagull you don’t really notice it it’s really the only downside i would think besides the size and maybe even that’s kind of cool though yeah the size does make it cool and the the previous burn is pretty cool thing to experience just you don’t want it like the extreme like jasper
[0:22:20 – 0:22:22] Erik: Alpine and Jasper, I don’t know what’s going on out there.
[0:22:22 – 0:22:23] Erik: It’s freakish.
[0:22:23 – 0:22:24] Adam: It’s just nothing.
[0:22:24 – 0:22:25] Adam: It’s kind of interesting.
[0:22:25 – 0:22:26] Erik: Yep.
[0:22:26 – 0:22:26] Erik: All right.
[0:22:26 – 0:22:33] Erik: Well, our rule of trying to get under 20 minutes has just been blown out of the water the last couple of weeks here.
[0:22:33 – 0:22:33] Erik: We’re at 22 and a half.
[0:22:34 – 0:22:34] Erik: What?
[0:22:35 – 0:22:36] Adam: That’s the end of this episode.
[0:22:38 – 0:22:39] Adam: Get on the caboose.
[0:22:40 – 0:22:40] Adam: Go back to California.
