211: Happy Wave Day

Cheers to the end of the tourism season in Northland! We have so many questions to answer this week as we turn our eyes to the subreddit and somehow manage to keep this train rolling along.

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[0:00:35 – 0:00:40] Adam: Welcome to Tumble Home, a Border Waters podcast. [0:00:40 – 0:00:41] Adam: My name is Adam. [0:00:41 – 0:00:46] Adam: Joining me here tonight in the shed, the shed. [0:00:46 – 0:00:48] Adam: The one and only. [0:00:48 – 0:00:49] Erik: My man, Eric. [0:00:50 – 0:00:50] Erik: Hello, Eric. [0:00:50 – 0:01:07] Adam: also the one and only yeah that’s right heater is on it is dark dark and uh oh my oh my it’s gonna be a wild one here tonight is it this is episode 211 my god of tumble home after dark [0:01:13 – 0:01:15] Adam: And my cheeks are rosy. [0:01:15 – 0:01:16] Adam: I’ll just say that. [0:01:17 – 0:01:18] Adam: That’s a rock fact. [0:01:19 – 0:01:19] Erik: What is that from? [0:01:19 – 0:01:22] Adam: I don’t know. [0:01:22 – 0:01:23] Adam: Just being joyous? [0:01:23 – 0:01:23] Adam: Yeah. [0:01:24 – 0:01:24] Adam: It’s… [0:01:26 – 0:01:27] Adam: Excited and joyous. [0:01:29 – 0:01:34] Adam: Rock Fact is from Over the Garden Wall, which I did watch this week. [0:01:34 – 0:01:34] Adam: Wow. [0:01:35 – 0:01:36] Adam: It is the season. [0:01:36 – 0:01:38] Adam: Brother Andrew is up, and he had never seen it. [0:01:39 – 0:01:39] Erik: Oh, man. [0:01:39 – 0:01:40] Adam: That’s always the best. [0:01:40 – 0:01:42] Adam: I said, this is going to be the best thing you’ve ever seen in your whole life. [0:01:42 – 0:01:44] Adam: And then we watched it, and I was like, so what do you think? [0:01:44 – 0:01:45] Adam: He was like, it was all right. [0:01:45 – 0:01:45] Adam: Yeah. [0:01:45 – 0:01:46] Adam: Oh, God, of course. [0:01:47 – 0:01:50] Adam: I was like, well, you got to watch it a few more times. [0:01:50 – 0:01:52] Adam: The more times you watch it, the better it gets. [0:01:52 – 0:01:52] Adam: It’s one of them. [0:01:53 – 0:01:54] Adam: Yeah. [0:01:55 – 0:01:56] Erik: He seems like a Joe Pera fan, though. [0:01:57 – 0:02:01] Adam: Yeah, I did show him a couple of Joe Paras, and he was definitely a little pretty excited about that Joe Para. [0:02:02 – 0:02:02] Erik: Nice. [0:02:02 – 0:02:04] Erik: You take that home, and you spend some time with it. [0:02:05 – 0:02:06] Adam: Watch the fall drive one with him. [0:02:06 – 0:02:07] Adam: Oh, yeah. [0:02:07 – 0:02:11] Adam: Where he sends the jack-o’-lantern down the magnificent waterfall. [0:02:11 – 0:02:13] Erik: Jesus, that river in that scene is a flood stage. [0:02:13 – 0:02:13] Adam: Yeah, what is that? [0:02:13 – 0:02:14] Adam: Does anybody know? [0:02:15 – 0:02:23] Adam: If you know what the river or waterfall is in the scene we’re talking about, hit us up in the DMs, tumblehomecast at instagram.com. [0:02:24 – 0:02:28] Adam: the picture app or a tumble home cast at gmail.com. [0:02:28 – 0:02:31] Adam: The answering machine is also posted in the show notes. [0:02:32 – 0:02:32] Erik: Yeah. [0:02:32 – 0:02:33] Erik: The answering machine has gone cold. [0:02:34 – 0:02:34] Adam: Yeah. [0:02:35 – 0:02:39] Adam: Just like the, just like the old North wind outside tonight. [0:02:40 – 0:02:42] Erik: My students call it God’s car. [0:02:42 – 0:02:42] Erik: Yeah. [0:02:45 – 0:03:00] Adam: oh it’s such a it’s a really nice car but it doesn’t make you feel bad about it being so nice right uh tonight’s tumble home outdoor calendar fact of the day for october 22nd 2022 is mend your whitefish nets sunset is at 601 p.m and uh [0:03:06 – 0:03:08] Adam: Whitefish netting has begun. [0:03:09 – 0:03:10] Adam: Not for me, personally. [0:03:11 – 0:03:11] Adam: Too early. [0:03:12 – 0:03:16] Adam: It’s a little early for my taste. [0:03:16 – 0:03:17] Adam: But a little warm out there still. [0:03:18 – 0:03:19] Adam: Hell, I was 65 yesterday. [0:03:20 – 0:03:20] Erik: Yeah. [0:03:21 – 0:03:22] Erik: Kind of popped back up after a… [0:03:22 – 0:03:23] Adam: I was wearing a t-shirt. [0:03:23 – 0:03:27] Erik: That was a scary couple of days there where it was full-blown winter. [0:03:27 – 0:03:28] Erik: There was snow. [0:03:28 – 0:03:31] Erik: It was like barely getting above freezing during the day. [0:03:31 – 0:03:33] Adam: I thought about burning the brush pile. [0:03:33 – 0:03:33] Adam: Yeah. [0:03:34 – 0:03:36] Erik: Well, I’m sure there will be more opportunities in your future. [0:03:36 – 0:03:38] Adam: Ultimately, it was too windy when we had the snow. [0:03:38 – 0:03:41] Adam: And then once the wind calmed down, then it was… [0:03:43 – 0:04:07] Adam: you know then the snow is gone so yeah it’s like that it’s not quite time but soon yeah according to the minnesota department of natural resources uh vermilion basswood fall and newton lakes have opened to netting as of yesterday and they are only open through november 6th wow so like two weeks worth [0:04:08 – 0:04:08] Adam: Yeah, I don’t know. [0:04:08 – 0:04:10] Adam: They just open them for little windows. [0:04:12 – 0:04:17] Adam: These lakes are susceptible to sudden changes that impact water temperatures. [0:04:17 – 0:04:24] Adam: They’re open and closed on a 48-hour notice posted on the website and other public places, so look out for that. [0:04:25 – 0:04:28] Erik: Yeah, I feel like during my… [0:04:28 – 0:04:31] Adam: It sounds like they maybe could extend that, I’m guessing, but… [0:04:31 – 0:04:43] Erik: During my travels, maybe with you, I feel like we came down that chain through Newton and lower Basswood and into Ely and definitely was spotting nets out there. [0:04:43 – 0:04:43] Erik: Yeah. [0:04:44 – 0:04:45] Erik: So that’s what those were. [0:04:47 – 0:04:50] Erik: That’s what that scummers, dirty scummers out there with their gloves. [0:04:50 – 0:04:57] Adam: According to this, they’re estimating that 700 people will obtain the special permit this year. [0:04:57 – 0:05:04] Erik: That’s a very small number, though, in the grand scheme of how many people are fishing versus how many people are netting. [0:05:05 – 0:05:05] Erik: I guess. [0:05:05 – 0:05:06] Erik: It’s worth it. [0:05:06 – 0:05:22] Adam: Yeah, I was over at Josh’s a couple days ago, stopped by, and I saw the net out in the Tupperware bin out near the driveway, but don’t think we’re going to be setting our net anytime soon. [0:05:22 – 0:05:22] Adam: No. [0:05:23 – 0:05:24] Adam: We do have plans to set it. [0:05:24 – 0:05:27] Adam: I don’t know if we’re going to pull off an epic, you know, three-week set. [0:05:28 – 0:05:28] Adam: Yeah. [0:05:29 – 0:05:32] Adam: With hundreds of fish caught like last year. [0:05:32 – 0:05:34] Adam: But I am hooked and we will be going again. [0:05:34 – 0:05:34] Adam: So. [0:05:34 – 0:05:35] Adam: Yeah. [0:05:35 – 0:05:37] Adam: I will maybe bring the field audio. [0:05:38 – 0:05:38] Adam: We’ll see. [0:05:39 – 0:05:39] Adam: Yeah. [0:05:39 – 0:05:40] Adam: We’ll see how the weather goes. [0:05:42 – 0:05:43] Erik: Put eyes and hands on the field, Mike. [0:05:43 – 0:05:49] Erik: I think it’s still in one of these packs in here left over from the old Quetico trip. [0:05:49 – 0:05:50] Erik: God. [0:05:51 – 0:05:51] Erik: A month ago now. [0:05:52 – 0:05:52] Erik: Yeah. [0:05:52 – 0:05:52] Erik: Yeah. [0:05:54 – 0:05:58] Erik: Yeah, I’m still off the sauce, believe it or not. [0:05:58 – 0:05:59] Erik: I don’t believe it. [0:05:59 – 0:06:01] Erik: Yeah, I don’t either, but it’s true. [0:06:04 – 0:06:09] Erik: But we do have some, I don’t know if they’re necessarily sponsors, but you managed to get your hands on them. [0:06:09 – 0:06:12] Adam: Yeah, the sponsors are from me. [0:06:12 – 0:06:14] Adam: Today we’re skipping everybody on the whiteboard. [0:06:14 – 0:06:20] Adam: I just got these a couple days ago, and they are tonight’s sponsor. [0:06:20 – 0:06:22] Erik: What happens if I never start drinking again? [0:06:22 – 0:06:22] Erik: Then what? [0:06:23 – 0:06:23] Adam: I don’t know. [0:06:23 – 0:06:28] Adam: Then you’re going to force me to drink all the art supplies, I guess, and really throw the dynamic off. [0:06:28 – 0:06:31] Erik: The dynamic is not what it once was. [0:06:33 – 0:06:34] Adam: We got a formula, Eric. [0:06:35 – 0:06:35] Adam: Yeah. [0:06:35 – 0:06:49] Adam: These are Bent Paddle CBD Plus sparkling waters with the passion fruit orange guava combination from our good friends at Bent Paddle. [0:06:50 – 0:06:51] Adam: Call us up, Bent Paddle. [0:06:51 – 0:06:52] Adam: Let’s make a deal. [0:06:52 – 0:06:53] Adam: Let’s make a deal. [0:06:54 – 0:06:55] Adam: We’re good for it. [0:06:55 – 0:06:56] Adam: Yeah. [0:06:57 – 0:06:58] Adam: Give them a paparooski. [0:06:59 – 0:07:00] Erik: Where did you get these? [0:07:00 – 0:07:01] Erik: Can you get these locally? [0:07:01 – 0:07:09] Adam: Yeah, they got them at the Pine Mountain General Store now in the general store section because you got to go into the secondary door to get to the liquor store. [0:07:10 – 0:07:10] Erik: Oh, wow. [0:07:12 – 0:07:14] Adam: But they can’t sell them in the liquor store. [0:07:14 – 0:07:16] Adam: They have to sell them in the general store. [0:07:16 – 0:07:19] Adam: So, you know, you got to go in the general store side to get these. [0:07:20 – 0:07:25] Erik: Definitely not tasting any passion fruit, not tasting any orange, not tasting any guava. [0:07:25 – 0:07:26] Adam: Yeah, what does it taste like? [0:07:26 – 0:07:29] Adam: Definitely tasting its liquid weed. [0:07:30 – 0:07:35] Adam: Yeah, they don’t taste like passion fruit, that’s for sure. [0:07:37 – 0:07:41] Erik: Yeah, I mean, it’s not bad, but the co-op has those like… [0:07:42 – 0:07:47] Erik: CBD, THC, sparkling waters, and those just taste like sparkling water. [0:07:48 – 0:07:50] Adam: Not that I mind the actual taste of it. [0:07:50 – 0:07:54] Adam: I think those are raspberry lemonades, the one we have at the co-op. [0:07:55 – 0:07:55] Adam: Those are nice. [0:07:55 – 0:07:58] Adam: Yeah, and we have the gummies too now, which is just bizarre. [0:07:58 – 0:07:59] Adam: It’s crazy. [0:07:59 – 0:08:00] Adam: They’re on owner special. [0:08:00 – 0:08:00] Adam: Oh, yeah. [0:08:00 – 0:08:02] Adam: They’re a great deal this month. [0:08:02 – 0:08:03] Adam: They got to load up. [0:08:04 – 0:08:04] Adam: Yeah. [0:08:05 – 0:08:06] Adam: Yeah, I don’t know. [0:08:06 – 0:08:11] Adam: I heard a rumor that they have these up at the other liquor store. [0:08:11 – 0:08:14] Adam: But it’s actually, like I said, in the general store up there. [0:08:14 – 0:08:17] Adam: But we are definitely not sponsored by the Pine Mountain General Store. [0:08:18 – 0:08:18] Adam: Not yet. [0:08:19 – 0:08:28] Adam: At least they’re open on Sundays, unlike the Meany, which chooses not to do business on a weekend in a tourist town for… [0:08:28 – 0:08:32] Adam: I can’t literally explain to me like I’m zero years old. [0:08:33 – 0:08:34] Adam: There’s no goddamn reason… [0:08:35 – 0:08:37] Adam: Ever, for that decision to have been made. [0:08:37 – 0:08:37] Adam: No. [0:08:37 – 0:08:51] Erik: And I don’t know what the reasoning is, and I also don’t know why this has happened to me, but I have found myself at South of the Border, SOBs, as the locals like to refer to it, and that’s just directly above… [0:08:52 – 0:09:14] Erik: the muni in town yeah and the last two times i’ve been there have been on sundays yeah and it’s just like part of like the past time of sitting there waiting for and then eating breakfast is just watching all of the disappointed and frustrated people from anywhere else in the united states where you can walk into a liquor store and buy alcohol on a sunday specifically yes frustrated wisconsinites [0:09:15 – 0:09:16] Adam: Yeah, no doubt. [0:09:16 – 0:09:17] Adam: They’re like, what the hell? [0:09:18 – 0:09:20] Adam: I’ve been living here for 12 years. [0:09:20 – 0:09:21] Adam: I’m still not used to it. [0:09:21 – 0:09:21] Adam: It’s stupid. [0:09:22 – 0:09:27] Erik: I’m surprised I haven’t seen something like twist a hat and then throw it on the ground because it just looks so dejected. [0:09:27 – 0:09:33] Erik: I almost want to go down there and put up a poster for the Pine Mountain General Store because you can just drive. [0:09:33 – 0:09:35] Erik: I mean, it’s 15 minutes out of the way. [0:09:35 – 0:09:38] Adam: I’m happy to go 15 minutes out of the way at this point. [0:09:38 – 0:09:41] Erik: If you need your case of beer for camp, that can be a game changer. [0:09:41 – 0:09:41] Adam: Just on principle. [0:09:42 – 0:09:44] Erik: Yeah, and just on principle. [0:09:44 – 0:09:45] Adam: Yeah. [0:09:45 – 0:09:46] Erik: They pulled the rug out from under us, though. [0:09:46 – 0:09:49] Erik: For a while, there was service there on Sundays. [0:09:49 – 0:09:51] Adam: Well, they changed the law, and they’re like, fine, we’ll open. [0:09:51 – 0:09:52] Adam: We’ll open for four hours. [0:09:53 – 0:09:54] Adam: They did that for like two weeks. [0:09:54 – 0:09:56] Adam: Then they’re like, we’re not making any money. [0:09:56 – 0:09:56] Adam: We’re closing. [0:09:56 – 0:09:58] Erik: Well, I think they used COVID as an excuse. [0:09:58 – 0:10:09] Adam: Well, they had a couple excuses, and I understand it’s probably difficult to line up your city unionized workers to get them to work on Sunday, but… [0:10:11 – 0:10:11] Adam: Whatever, though. [0:10:11 – 0:10:12] Adam: It’s ridiculous. [0:10:12 – 0:10:15] Adam: Well, then give out another liquor license for somebody else in town. [0:10:15 – 0:10:20] Adam: You’re going to hold a monopoly on the stupid liquor license and at least be open when you can. [0:10:20 – 0:10:22] Adam: It’s ridiculous. [0:10:22 – 0:10:25] Adam: Anyways, Pine Mountain General, this is my ringing endorsement. [0:10:25 – 0:10:27] Adam: I love you, Pine Mountain General Star. [0:10:28 – 0:10:30] Adam: For instance, tomorrow the Packers play at noon. [0:10:31 – 0:10:37] Adam: If I want to leave work early and go drink beer with Josh in the woods and listen to the Packers somehow lose another game, [0:10:38 – 0:10:40] Adam: I can stop at the Pine Mountain General Store. [0:10:40 – 0:10:43] Adam: It’s right on my way, and they’re open. [0:10:43 – 0:10:44] Adam: You can count on them. [0:10:44 – 0:10:44] Adam: They’re always there. [0:10:44 – 0:10:48] Adam: And now they sell THC product in Minnesota. [0:10:50 – 0:10:51] Adam: Hilarious. [0:10:51 – 0:10:52] Adam: Yeah, I’m still not 100% sure. [0:10:52 – 0:10:54] Adam: They accidentally just changed the law. [0:10:55 – 0:10:56] Adam: Yeah, I was going to say. [0:10:56 – 0:11:06] Adam: Because the dumbass Republicans didn’t bother to read the bill, and they’ve been fighting tooth and nail against something that the majority of the people in this state want for years now, blocking it. [0:11:07 – 0:11:08] Adam: From ever happening. [0:11:08 – 0:11:13] Adam: And then they accidentally passed gummies and THC drinks are now allowed. [0:11:13 – 0:11:15] Adam: And within weeks, it’s just everywhere now. [0:11:18 – 0:11:19] Adam: Love it. [0:11:19 – 0:11:20] Adam: So, you know. [0:11:22 – 0:11:23] Adam: Everybody go and vote, though. [0:11:23 – 0:11:25] Adam: Let’s just get the whole thing legalized at this point. [0:11:25 – 0:11:26] Adam: It’s ridiculous. [0:11:27 – 0:11:28] Adam: It’s 2022. [0:11:28 – 0:11:29] Adam: Nobody’s against this anymore. [0:11:29 – 0:11:34] Adam: You’re just giving away tax revenue and keeping people in jail over what? [0:11:34 – 0:11:35] Adam: A plant? [0:11:35 – 0:11:37] Adam: Let’s make booze illegal. [0:11:38 – 0:11:39] Adam: Far more destructive. [0:11:39 – 0:11:40] Adam: And rant. [0:11:40 – 0:11:43] Adam: What are you giving these CBD plus sparkling waters? [0:11:44 – 0:11:47] Erik: I’m going to have to go ahead and say 22 out of 22 days for me without a drop. [0:11:53 – 0:11:54] Erik: The devil’s nectar. [0:11:54 – 0:11:55] Erik: How do you do it? [0:11:55 – 0:11:56] Erik: I don’t know either. [0:11:56 – 0:11:57] Erik: Just once you get into it. [0:11:58 – 0:11:58] Erik: I suppose. [0:11:59 – 0:12:00] Erik: It’s just tough to… [0:12:01 – 0:12:05] Erik: I mean, it’s really easy to keep going once you stop. [0:12:06 – 0:12:07] Erik: It’s also really easy to keep going once you start. [0:12:08 – 0:12:08] Erik: And that’s my problem. [0:12:09 – 0:12:13] Adam: Well, yeah, my brother was just here, and I had the whole week off, and it was kind of nice out, so there’s just no way. [0:12:14 – 0:12:15] Adam: I can’t even picture it. [0:12:15 – 0:12:17] Adam: The winter is a good time to just take a break, though. [0:12:17 – 0:12:19] Adam: There’s always a good excuse to have a cold brewski. [0:12:19 – 0:12:21] Erik: Right, and that’s the problem that I was having. [0:12:21 – 0:12:25] Erik: It was every thing that I did was an excuse to have a beer. [0:12:25 – 0:12:26] Erik: Might as well have a cold one. [0:12:27 – 0:12:33] Adam: It’s fall, after all, and tomorrow’s going to be beautiful, and we’re podcasting tonight, so what the hell. [0:12:34 – 0:12:59] Adam: yeah i know i know but um there’s a likelihood i’m back in in here within a couple of weeks and all is right with the world but i mean it is amazing supplies are just piling up yeah you got another one today at work a beautiful sipper bottle uh can’t reveal anymore at this moment but they’re just the whole cabinet’s full behind me at this point can’t even shut those doors look at that thing it’s bursting it is [0:13:00 – 0:13:01] Adam: So thanks for the art supplies. [0:13:01 – 0:13:01] Adam: Keep them coming. [0:13:04 – 0:13:06] Adam: Eric will be back with us shortly here and we can get back to him. [0:13:07 – 0:13:09] Adam: Or I’ll just drink them all, you know, one way or the other. [0:13:09 – 0:13:10] Adam: We’re going to get it back to him. [0:13:10 – 0:13:11] Erik: Yeah, we’ll see. [0:13:11 – 0:13:19] Adam: These things have, so it’s 25 milligrams of CBD and then 2 milligram of THC per can. [0:13:20 – 0:13:24] Erik: We’ll see if you keep track, see if it affects us going forward. [0:13:24 – 0:13:25] Erik: I don’t know. [0:13:25 – 0:13:26] Adam: This is going to be a pretty short episode. [0:13:26 – 0:13:27] Adam: I highly doubt it. [0:13:27 – 0:13:33] Adam: But, you know, maybe tune in to our this week’s Tumble Home Cinema Classics. [0:13:33 – 0:13:35] Adam: We’re going to be recording henceforth. [0:13:37 – 0:13:37] Adam: Oh, yeah. [0:13:37 – 0:13:37] Adam: TCC. [0:13:37 – 0:13:38] Adam: It’s going to be a doozy. [0:13:38 – 0:13:39] Adam: TCC. [0:13:39 – 0:13:42] Adam: So, yeah, tune in to that one and see if these things have gotten to us. [0:13:42 – 0:13:44] Adam: Two milligrams of the… [0:13:45 – 0:13:49] Adam: Very tasteable THC or hemp derivative of some sort. [0:13:49 – 0:13:50] Adam: You can tell. [0:13:50 – 0:13:51] Erik: Yeah. [0:13:51 – 0:13:51] Erik: Yeah. [0:13:51 – 0:13:55] Erik: We’re talking about poltergeists that kind of came out of left field, but never seen it. [0:13:55 – 0:13:56] Erik: Neither of us had seen it. [0:13:56 – 0:14:00] Erik: So we’re going to get in depth on that and we’re going to double hit you with a double whammy. [0:14:01 – 0:14:04] Erik: Uh, sometime next week we’re doing another one, another for sure. [0:14:04 – 0:14:08] Erik: Spooky TCC says we kind of left you hanging in September a little bit. [0:14:08 – 0:14:10] Erik: So, uh, what is it? [0:14:10 – 0:14:11] Erik: Day of the dead. [0:14:11 – 0:14:16] Adam: Day of the Dead, third in the series apparently, but Eric’s assured me I don’t have to watch the first two. [0:14:16 – 0:14:16] Adam: No. [0:14:16 – 0:14:17] Adam: It won’t matter. [0:14:17 – 0:14:18] Adam: No, no. [0:14:19 – 0:14:20] Adam: What was last year’s? [0:14:20 – 0:14:21] Adam: Evil Dead 2. [0:14:21 – 0:14:21] Adam: Evil Dead. [0:14:21 – 0:14:23] Adam: Yeah, we just started with Evil Dead 2. [0:14:23 – 0:14:23] Adam: Right. [0:14:23 – 0:14:25] Adam: Don’t need to see the first one. [0:14:25 – 0:14:26] Erik: No, you don’t have to. [0:14:26 – 0:14:39] Erik: I mean, I wholeheartedly recommend all of the dead movies, but Day of the Dead, for some reason, there are parts in that movie that are very reminiscent to a couple of parts in Poltergeist’s. [0:14:40 – 0:14:40] Adam: Oh. [0:14:40 – 0:14:44] Erik: In terms of, like, practical effects. [0:14:44 – 0:14:44] Erik: Mm-hmm. [0:14:45 – 0:14:54] Erik: But Day of the Dead is definitely rated R. Some moments in Poltergeist shocked me and appalled me. [0:14:54 – 0:14:59] Erik: Not as a person, but as somebody who knows it’s rated PG. [0:14:59 – 0:15:00] Erik: That’s rated PG? [0:15:00 – 0:15:00] Erik: PG. [0:15:00 – 0:15:03] Erik: I don’t think so. [0:15:04 – 0:15:04] Erik: PG. [0:15:04 – 0:15:05] Erik: Yeah. [0:15:05 – 0:15:06] Erik: This is… [0:15:06 – 0:15:07] Adam: Okay. [0:15:07 – 0:15:09] Erik: I mean, could you imagine putting that on… [0:15:10 – 0:15:33] Erik: if you’re a big proponent of the mpaa and knowing like well pg can’t get into too much trouble and then you get to some of those scenes where a man literally rips the skin off of his face in front of a mirror that was pretty grotesque i uh i don’t know yeah that’s not pg i’m sorry no it’s not i don’t think there’s really any swearing or nudity but my god that was horrific [0:15:34 – 0:15:35] Erik: We’ll get to that. [0:15:35 – 0:15:37] Adam: No, no real nudity. [0:15:38 – 0:15:39] Adam: No. [0:15:39 – 0:15:41] Adam: Maybe some ghoul nudity. [0:15:41 – 0:15:41] Adam: I don’t know. [0:15:41 – 0:15:42] Erik: Yeah, maybe. [0:15:42 – 0:15:46] Erik: Some old minors or whatever that went marching by. [0:15:46 – 0:15:48] Adam: Yeah, that’s the best kind of nudity. [0:15:49 – 0:15:49] Adam: Old minor. [0:15:49 – 0:15:50] Erik: Old minors. [0:15:51 – 0:15:52] Adam: Old minor dong. [0:15:52 – 0:15:53] Erik: Oh, God, yeah. [0:15:54 – 0:15:55] Erik: That’s the kind you really want to see. [0:15:55 – 0:15:57] Adam: Just flapping in the California breeze out there. [0:15:57 – 0:15:59] Erik: Yeah, so we’ll get into that. [0:15:59 – 0:16:01] Erik: And then, yeah, you can look forward to zombie chat. [0:16:02 – 0:16:12] Adam: Yeah, I don’t normally do a whole lot of pre-research on the films, but I was looking that one up, and one thing I read said it’s the Gone with the Wind of zombie films. [0:16:13 – 0:16:13] Adam: Day of the Dead? [0:16:13 – 0:16:14] Adam: Yeah, what does that mean? [0:16:15 – 0:16:15] Adam: I don’t know. [0:16:15 – 0:16:18] Adam: Just epic in its scope and passion. [0:16:20 – 0:16:25] Erik: Yeah, I’ve seen both of those movies and I would have never thought that any conclusions could have been drawn between the two of them. [0:16:26 – 0:16:32] Adam: I think it’s just in the… Now you could also say it’s like the Titanic of zombie movies, maybe. [0:16:32 – 0:16:33] Adam: Yeah, maybe. [0:16:33 – 0:16:34] Adam: Such an epic endeavor. [0:16:35 – 0:16:35] Erik: It is pretty epic. [0:16:35 – 0:16:37] Erik: And Joe Palato is amazing. [0:16:37 – 0:16:42] Erik: If you’ve never seen him as an actor, he… Wow, it’s going to be a new one for me. [0:16:42 – 0:16:44] Erik: He acts his brains out. [0:16:44 – 0:16:45] Erik: No spoilers. [0:16:45 – 0:16:49] Adam: I’ve got to find out where I can locate this film. [0:16:49 – 0:16:51] Erik: I mean, you do whatever you need to do. [0:16:51 – 0:16:55] Erik: Get on your Russian torrent website or whatever. [0:16:55 – 0:16:58] Erik: But I’m going to spend the $3 so I can watch it. [0:16:58 – 0:16:59] Erik: At two times speed. [0:16:59 – 0:17:02] Erik: Free and clear on YouTube. [0:17:02 – 0:17:03] Erik: No, not on two times speed. [0:17:03 – 0:17:06] Erik: I don’t think this one, you definitely don’t need this one at two times speed. [0:17:07 – 0:17:10] Erik: Poltergeist was on HBO and there is no two times button on that. [0:17:10 – 0:17:11] Erik: So I had to watch all of it. [0:17:12 – 0:17:13] Erik: And the music is PG. [0:17:13 – 0:17:15] Erik: The content, not. [0:17:15 – 0:17:16] Erik: Yeah. [0:17:19 – 0:17:19] Adam: Yeah. [0:17:19 – 0:17:21] Adam: I don’t know. [0:17:21 – 0:17:22] Adam: I thought the soundtrack was pretty hip. [0:17:24 – 0:17:24] Adam: Yeah, maybe. [0:17:25 – 0:17:25] Adam: Craig T. Nelson. [0:17:26 – 0:17:27] Adam: Coach. [0:17:27 – 0:17:28] Adam: Coach. [0:17:28 – 0:17:29] Adam: Was he coaching in Coach? [0:17:30 – 0:17:30] Adam: Minnesota State. [0:17:31 – 0:17:31] Adam: Oh, really? [0:17:31 – 0:17:31] Adam: Yeah. [0:17:32 – 0:17:32] Adam: Well, it’s sport. [0:17:32 – 0:17:33] Erik: Football. [0:17:33 – 0:17:33] Adam: What? [0:17:34 – 0:17:34] Adam: Come on. [0:17:34 – 0:17:35] Adam: You’ve never seen Coach? [0:17:36 – 0:17:37] Adam: I think I have. [0:17:38 – 0:17:42] Adam: The whole time, me and Andrew were watching it, and it’s like… You watched it together? [0:17:42 – 0:17:43] Adam: Yeah, we watched it. [0:17:44 – 0:17:47] Adam: Me and brother and the baby watched it at like 8 in the morning. [0:17:48 – 0:17:48] Erik: Nice. [0:17:48 – 0:17:51] Erik: Well, yeah, your schedules don’t really allow for it. [0:17:51 – 0:17:53] Adam: Sorry to the baby. [0:17:53 – 0:17:56] Adam: He’s not even old enough for PG yet, so… [0:17:57 – 0:17:59] Adam: Yeah, not even old enough to drink at the Anchor Bar. [0:17:59 – 0:18:04] Adam: You can’t even have a cold pop in a wheel at the Anchor Bar, and you cannot watch Poltergeist. [0:18:04 – 0:18:05] Adam: Had Andrew seen it before? [0:18:05 – 0:18:07] Adam: Don’t tell Natalie that he watched it. [0:18:08 – 0:18:10] Adam: Andrew’s never seen it either, I don’t think. [0:18:10 – 0:18:12] Adam: Natalie had seen half of it and refused to watch it with us. [0:18:12 – 0:18:14] Adam: That’s why we just watched it in the morning. [0:18:14 – 0:18:14] Erik: Nice. [0:18:15 – 0:18:17] Adam: Yeah, with over a nice cup of coffee. [0:18:17 – 0:18:18] Adam: It was beauty. [0:18:18 – 0:18:19] Erik: Great. [0:18:19 – 0:18:21] Erik: Can’t wait to talk about it in depth. [0:18:21 – 0:18:21] Erik: I’ve got notes. [0:18:22 – 0:18:23] Adam: I have some notes as well. [0:18:24 – 0:18:25] Erik: Oh my. [0:18:25 – 0:18:25] Erik: Oh my. [0:18:25 – 0:18:27] Erik: You have notes for tonight or are we done? [0:18:27 – 0:18:28] Erik: That’s all I got. [0:18:28 – 0:18:30] Erik: That’s all I got too. [0:18:30 – 0:18:32] Adam: I have a couple screen grabs. [0:18:33 – 0:18:39] Erik: Well, before we get into whatever the, this is, I don’t even know if these necessarily have names anymore. [0:18:39 – 0:18:47] Erik: Just sort of tying up some loose ends, maybe poking our noses into the old subreddit. [0:18:47 – 0:18:48] Adam: Current events. [0:18:48 – 0:18:49] Adam: There’s the current event episodes. [0:18:49 – 0:18:53] Erik: The subreddit, which is still kind of somehow growing in numbers. [0:18:54 – 0:18:58] Erik: See if we can get to 1,000 before we wrap up this whole endeavor, whatever that might be. [0:19:00 – 0:19:00] Erik: Choo-choo. [0:19:01 – 0:19:02] Erik: This is not an Express episode. [0:19:04 – 0:19:05] Adam: No, but all aboard the subreddit. [0:19:05 – 0:19:06] Adam: Yes, all aboard the subreddit. [0:19:07 – 0:19:09] Adam: If we get to 1,000, I will eat that Squatcho. [0:19:10 – 0:19:11] Adam: Squatcho is back in play. [0:19:11 – 0:19:12] Adam: By when? [0:19:12 – 0:19:14] Adam: By the end of the year? [0:19:14 – 0:19:16] Adam: Yeah, by the end of the year. [0:19:16 – 0:19:17] Adam: I’m going to eat a Squatcho. [0:19:17 – 0:19:18] Adam: Let’s make it realistic. [0:19:18 – 0:19:18] Adam: I’ll eat… [0:19:19 – 0:19:44] Erik: oh god geez what was that some that uh um tcc episode we recorded last week i totally forgot about uh the horrible cat noise that we heard outside the door i didn’t get picked up on the microphones because i was listening to it and i was like what were we freaking out about and i believe it was the neighbor cat that was just like right outside the door like working on a hairball or something but it was spooky [0:19:44 – 0:19:44] Adam: Yeah, it was. [0:19:44 – 0:19:49] Adam: There’s been a few spooky moments out here this fall in the shed. [0:19:51 – 0:19:54] Erik: Yeah, so we’ll run down some light. [0:19:55 – 0:19:57] Adam: We’re catching up on some subreddit topics. [0:19:57 – 0:19:58] Erik: Some subreddit stuff. [0:19:59 – 0:20:00] Erik: You’ve got screenshots. [0:20:00 – 0:20:01] Erik: I don’t know what they could be of. [0:20:01 – 0:20:05] Adam: I’ve got a couple of screenshots out of the subreddit. [0:20:05 – 0:20:06] Adam: Well, sort of. [0:20:06 – 0:20:06] Adam: No, they’re not. [0:20:07 – 0:20:08] Adam: They’re Boundary Waters related. [0:20:09 – 0:20:09] Erik: Boundary Waters. [0:20:10 – 0:20:11] Adam: Border Water Adjacent? [0:20:11 – 0:20:12] Adam: Border Water Adjacent. [0:20:13 – 0:20:16] Erik: Yeah, so this is that time of year. [0:20:16 – 0:20:25] Erik: I know there’s probably still a few of you, if you are listening to this and it is the date that this comes out, who may have trips planned yet. [0:20:25 – 0:20:26] Erik: Late trips. [0:20:26 – 0:20:27] Erik: Late trips. [0:20:28 – 0:20:35] Erik: But for the vast majority of people, I imagine this question is appropriate, and that is the classic end of the season. [0:20:36 – 0:20:36] Erik: Where’d you go? [0:20:37 – 0:20:38] Erik: What did you see? [0:20:38 – 0:20:38] Erik: What did you do? [0:20:39 – 0:20:40] Erik: Anything new to share? [0:20:41 – 0:20:43] Adam: What was the highlight of your season? [0:20:44 – 0:20:44] Erik: Yeah. [0:20:44 – 0:20:51] Erik: I did post this on the subreddit, rtumblehumpcasts at reddit.com. [0:20:52 – 0:20:57] Erik: And you can also send me an email if you’re a surviving, recovering, or you’re back on the wagon. [0:20:58 – 0:20:59] Erik: And it’s just… [0:20:59 – 0:21:12] Erik: you don’t really want to take your chances with social media, send an email, tumblehomecast.gmail.com, about your 2022 open water season, BWCA, and back in play, Quetico Adventures. [0:21:13 – 0:21:18] Erik: I did post this question, like I said, to the subreddit, and they apparently did not use enough question marks. [0:21:18 – 0:21:19] Erik: Those have been added. [0:21:19 – 0:21:22] Adam: Yeah, it’s definitely a question. [0:21:22 – 0:21:23] Erik: It is definitely a question. [0:21:23 – 0:21:24] Adam: Of the year. [0:21:24 – 0:21:24] Erik: Of the year. [0:21:25 – 0:21:29] Erik: You can answer the question with a question or questions. [0:21:30 – 0:21:30] Adam: Or a riddle. [0:21:30 – 0:21:32] Adam: I don’t even, I’ll allow it. [0:21:33 – 0:21:33] Erik: Sure. [0:21:33 – 0:21:34] Erik: Yeah. [0:21:34 – 0:21:34] Erik: Or a poem. [0:21:34 – 0:21:36] Erik: We’re allowing everything. [0:21:36 – 0:21:42] Adam: If anybody answers in a poem, the extra point, extra upvote for you. [0:21:42 – 0:21:46] Erik: Hit us up with a synopsis of your Bon Jovi trip in the form of a haiku. [0:21:47 – 0:21:49] Erik: Will be read in an appropriate manner. [0:21:50 – 0:21:52] Adam: Yeah, I’ll get a skull. [0:21:52 – 0:21:55] Adam: I’ll hold a skull in my hand and we can light a candle while I read that. [0:21:56 – 0:21:58] Erik: You light it early so it gets nice and wax drippy. [0:21:58 – 0:22:00] Adam: Yes, exactly. [0:22:00 – 0:22:02] Erik: This guy’s lit a candle on a skull before. [0:22:02 – 0:22:03] Erik: He knows what’s up. [0:22:03 – 0:22:05] Adam: I’m a candelabra expert. [0:22:06 – 0:22:06] Adam: Candelabra. [0:22:06 – 0:22:08] Erik: Now that’s something completely different. [0:22:08 – 0:22:10] Adam: That TCC was over a year ago now. [0:22:11 – 0:22:12] Adam: Oh, boy, yeah. [0:22:13 – 0:22:14] Adam: Tale as old as time. [0:22:14 – 0:22:15] Adam: Tale as old as time. [0:22:15 – 0:22:16] Adam: Yeah. [0:22:17 – 0:22:43] Adam: cracked erratic yeah we imagine a motorcycle with a candle for a headlight there’s a whole series of candles yeah all handlebars are just full of best tuned wasn’t it a rose with candles yeah we said the there’s gonna be the rose was gonna be in the headlight of the motorcycle and his motorcycle gang just like bill murray’s bowling ball exactly like that except for it’s a headlight [0:22:43 – 0:22:47] Erik: I revisited that movie within a couple of weeks. [0:22:47 – 0:22:47] Erik: Kingpin? [0:22:48 – 0:22:48] Erik: Yeah. [0:22:49 – 0:22:50] Adam: Not really that good. [0:22:50 – 0:22:55] Adam: Oh, it’s one of those that you definitely wonder, you know, how did I ever think this was entertaining? [0:22:55 – 0:22:58] Erik: How did I ever think this was as funny as I thought it was at the time? [0:22:58 – 0:22:59] Erik: It’s not funny at all. [0:23:00 – 0:23:00] Erik: It’s not. [0:23:01 – 0:23:06] Erik: It really doesn’t even come across as trying to be a comedy, but I think it’s generally known as one. [0:23:06 – 0:23:08] Erik: I had that happen with Old School this year. [0:23:08 – 0:23:09] Erik: Who? [0:23:09 – 0:23:10] Erik: Someone ended up watching Old School, and I was like… [0:23:12 – 0:23:34] Adam: how did this get made yeah right i mean that’s right in like that era well probably right at the end of that era where just like the college and he gets tranquilized in the neck and falls in the pool and then they play a hello darkness my old friend now that’s still pretty funny but most of that movie is stale and wouldn’t be allowed yeah and that’s the way most comedies go toilet bullshit [0:23:35 – 0:23:40] Erik: I also didn’t realize after going back and revisiting it that there’s a Fairley Farley brothers. [0:23:41 – 0:23:45] Erik: The like something about Mary crew. [0:23:45 – 0:23:54] Erik: You could see the like nuggets of their kind of humor in it a little bit with Randy Quaid or Dennis. [0:23:54 – 0:23:56] Erik: I can never remember whoever the Amish guy is. [0:23:58 – 0:24:01] Adam: Is he the same one from Independence Day and the crop duster? [0:24:01 – 0:24:02] Erik: Yeah, I think so. [0:24:03 – 0:24:18] Adam: same quaid gotta be there’s only there’s only one in my mind and it’s whoever is in both of those movies yeah that’s the quaid you see the uh the guy from the christmas vacation in the rv [0:24:19 – 0:24:46] Adam: sugar’s full clark yeah that’s him it’s got to be him that’s a real beaut it’s a real beaut clark yeah uh that’s great i don’t know how we ended up talking about uh kingpin but oh yes the again tangent on a tangent on a tangent candelabra it’s candelabra centric yeah all seven candles are lit yeah we should get a candelabra for the studio there’s not enough fire hazards in here [0:24:46 – 0:24:49] Erik: Is there a limit on candles on a candelabra, or is there a minimum? [0:24:50 – 0:24:51] Adam: I think the minimum is seven. [0:24:52 – 0:24:52] Adam: Wow. [0:24:52 – 0:24:53] Adam: Max is 100. [0:24:54 – 0:24:54] Adam: Oh. [0:24:54 – 0:24:58] Adam: That’s if it’s multi-tiered only. [0:24:58 – 0:25:00] Erik: Minimum is seven, though. [0:25:00 – 0:25:01] Adam: I would say seven. [0:25:01 – 0:25:02] Adam: I would think five. [0:25:02 – 0:25:05] Adam: Hit us up on the email. [0:25:05 – 0:25:06] Adam: This is where we’re at. [0:25:06 – 0:25:08] Adam: Tomohamcast.gmail.com. [0:25:09 – 0:25:10] Erik: This is a point in our lives. [0:25:10 – 0:25:15] Adam: How did we ever get to this question when we did the tale as old as time for TCC? [0:25:15 – 0:25:16] Adam: That’s what I want to know. [0:25:16 – 0:25:22] Erik: Yeah, it must be this CBD plus water that’s really opening, cracking the erratics of our mind. [0:25:22 – 0:25:24] Adam: Yeah, that’s right, and smoothing them out even a little bit. [0:25:24 – 0:25:26] Erik: Yeah, definitely smoothing them out. [0:25:26 – 0:25:27] Erik: The wrinkles are shrinking. [0:25:27 – 0:25:30] Erik: Age-defying cream is hitting our brains right now. [0:25:31 – 0:25:33] Adam: Yeah, your skin looks great. [0:25:33 – 0:25:33] Adam: Mm-hmm. [0:25:34 – 0:25:34] Adam: Mm. [0:25:34 – 0:25:34] Adam: Mm. [0:25:35 – 0:26:01] Erik: uh do we want to do the little one that i had uh pointed out that got thrown up on the subreddit i don’t know some of these are interesting some of them are i feel like answers that we have provided in the past but that’s okay essentially it’s uh from uh i think relatively new subscriber relatively new friend of the show post or poster [0:26:03 – 0:26:05] Erik: You include me out too. [0:26:05 – 0:26:06] Erik: Hi. [0:26:06 – 0:26:07] Erik: Hello. [0:26:07 – 0:26:11] Erik: Did you think we were going to spotlight you? [0:26:12 – 0:26:16] Erik: Hopefully not drinking too many THC waters right now. [0:26:17 – 0:26:18] Erik: No need to panic. [0:26:18 – 0:26:19] Erik: Nobody’s watching. [0:26:19 – 0:26:22] Erik: Nobody’s going to judge you too hard. [0:26:23 – 0:26:30] Erik: But we are going to go through some of the questions that you posted from a solo trip whilst base camping on Long Island Lake. [0:26:32 – 0:26:53] Adam: the long island the one and only wow did you pound that thing i’m in i’m so refreshed from the passion fruit oh my god i guess maybe i yeah we’ll see quicker the better there you go all right i’m ready to answer some questions what the hell is quila quilaja extract [0:26:54 – 0:26:55] Erik: Mmm, that’s the good stuff. [0:26:55 – 0:26:56] Erik: That’s what I can taste. [0:26:57 – 0:26:58] Erik: Extra Quilaggia. [0:27:00 – 0:27:02] Adam: I got no idea, in all honesty. [0:27:02 – 0:27:03] Adam: I have no idea what that is. [0:27:04 – 0:27:25] Erik: okay yeah so uh there’s seven questions here i believe and i think this is not necessarily meant to be directed at us some people did uh bullet point take the time to answer i thought there was some thoughtful responses to it yeah i didn’t look at it but that was like the day it was posted and a few responses how many responses are on there now [0:27:26 – 0:27:43] Erik: um how many comments we got two three and then a bunch of responses to one of them so three only really okay we’re gonna be the final end all be all say on some of these though i’m an expert yeah we’re enthusiasts [0:27:45 – 0:27:47] Erik: Number one, these are questions from a solo trip. [0:27:47 – 0:27:49] Erik: You know how the mind travels. [0:27:49 – 0:27:51] Erik: I’ve seen some alone in my day. [0:27:52 – 0:27:53] Adam: Tell me about it. [0:27:53 – 0:27:54] Adam: You know, I was thinking about that. [0:27:54 – 0:27:58] Adam: You’re claiming you’re easily going to do like 100 days. [0:27:59 – 0:28:00] Erik: I did not claim that. [0:28:00 – 0:28:01] Adam: You could easily do 100 days. [0:28:01 – 0:28:02] Adam: I did not claim that. [0:28:03 – 0:28:07] Adam: I think you said you could easily make it a month or something, you know? [0:28:08 – 0:28:19] Erik: I mean, after watching as much of it as I have, and if we really want to and we want to expand, I think it would be a fun concept to do a full just, like, show about… [0:28:20 – 0:28:43] Erik: because it’s so interesting the different people that are on it the decisions they make like a sub sub yeah we could go through each season it’s insane like the the the terrifying lows and the dizzying highs these people experience and just the general concept of like the behind the scenes like how is this all filmed who puts this stuff together we could probably get the blu-ray on season one [0:28:44 – 0:28:54] Erik: Well, you can buy the entire seasons on YouTube, but I know you’re a frugal… Well, you know, we did just sell the wall tent, so maybe you can put some of that money towards the future endeavor of watching a bunch of Alone. [0:28:54 – 0:28:56] Adam: That’s my Christmas money now. [0:28:56 – 0:28:57] Adam: Shh, don’t tell anybody. [0:29:00 – 0:29:01] Erik: But yeah, that would be fun. [0:29:01 – 0:29:09] Erik: I don’t know if it’s in the cards for any time soon, but I think if that doesn’t exist out there, it really should because it’s more than anything else. [0:29:10 – 0:29:12] Erik: An alone podcast, yeah. [0:29:12 – 0:29:13] Erik: With two people. [0:29:13 – 0:29:14] Erik: With two people. [0:29:14 – 0:29:16] Erik: Yeah, you’d have to come up with a real fun name for that. [0:29:16 – 0:29:17] Adam: Yeah, there’s something there easy. [0:29:18 – 0:29:22] Adam: I’m just saying that you’re talking about how you think you’d do well on it. [0:29:22 – 0:29:24] Erik: I think I started getting to this point [0:29:27 – 0:29:32] Erik: After watching enough of it, I think I would do well in the actual alone factor. [0:29:33 – 0:29:33] Erik: I don’t know. [0:29:34 – 0:29:38] Erik: I definitely don’t think I would do very well without food. [0:29:39 – 0:29:45] Erik: The struggles from people who kind of seem like, for the most part, like they know what they’re doing. [0:29:45 – 0:29:46] Erik: Not everybody does. [0:29:46 – 0:29:50] Erik: There’s people that are kind of hilariously out of their element sometimes. [0:29:51 – 0:29:59] Erik: Um, and pull the rip cord as it were tap out incredibly early based on things that you would just not think that they would. [0:30:00 – 0:30:08] Erik: Um, but like, I don’t think I’m a good enough Fisher person trapper or scavenger that I would be able to survive without just going absolutely insane from hunger. [0:30:09 – 0:30:12] Adam: How much time do you have of notification? [0:30:12 – 0:30:19] Adam: You’re going to be on the show, be here next week, or you got a year to train and prepare yourself skills-wise? [0:30:19 – 0:30:23] Erik: I have no idea how the whole process works, but it seems to me like it’s probably a good… [0:30:24 – 0:30:44] Erik: half of a year where you probably are like applying and then I think you need to go and spend time with like the people that run the show and like pass some like basic things and then it like whittles down 10 people start the show always and so I think that they bring like 20 or 30 people to like a week long like [0:30:45 – 0:30:56] Erik: camp basically where you remember those camps in like early days of school or like a church camp where you had to do like the, here’s how you make a shelter or here’s how you start a fire, stuff like that. [0:30:56 – 0:31:06] Erik: And I think they probably determined based on how well you do like practically, but then I’m sure they’re doing a lot of things like, well, how is this person going to perform on camera? [0:31:06 – 0:31:06] Erik: Yeah. [0:31:06 – 0:31:08] Erik: Are they going to be interesting? [0:31:08 – 0:31:09] Adam: I know it’d be compelling. [0:31:09 – 0:31:09] Erik: Yeah. [0:31:10 – 0:31:13] Erik: And everybody has to have like kind of a backstory and, [0:31:14 – 0:31:36] Adam: where it’s like yeah i’m doing this for my fill in the blank right of course but um again we have i’m just saying i don’t you know have you have you have you gone solo camping yet though like i know you’re talking about doing a solo camping trip yeah i don’t think you’re ever i don’t think i’ve actually ever solo camp so so until you’ve actually tried it i’m really good at being alone [0:31:36 – 0:31:38] Adam: Yeah, I think you could handle it. [0:31:38 – 0:31:38] Adam: Yeah. [0:31:39 – 0:31:40] Adam: I don’t know. [0:31:40 – 0:31:42] Adam: I still want you to do a solo camping trip episode at some point. [0:31:43 – 0:31:43] Erik: Sure. [0:31:43 – 0:31:52] Adam: Yeah, that almost happened last year, and then I think the weather just kind of… Yeah, you don’t want to go in, you know, total nasty boy weather. [0:31:53 – 0:31:53] Adam: No. [0:31:53 – 0:31:54] Adam: You know, if you’re going to be out there by yourself. [0:31:55 – 0:31:55] Adam: Yeah. [0:31:56 – 0:31:56] Erik: All right. [0:31:57 – 0:32:00] Erik: Enough of whatever that was. [0:32:01 – 0:32:03] Adam: It’s an exciting preview into the future. [0:32:03 – 0:32:04] Adam: Mm-hmm. [0:32:06 – 0:32:07] Erik: You include me out too. [0:32:07 – 0:32:11] Erik: I guess one and or no numbers was taken, but thank you for the questions. [0:32:12 – 0:32:13] Erik: This is the first one. [0:32:14 – 0:32:17] Erik: Why do outfitters still send folks out with aluminum boats? [0:32:17 – 0:32:23] Erik: Are there benefits beyond the fear of dinging up and paying the fees on the Kevlar repairs? [0:32:25 – 0:32:32] Erik: Um, yeah, I guess I have a little bit more experience in this realm and I don’t know if I can speak for all outfitters. [0:32:32 – 0:32:43] Erik: I am, um, an ex outfitter, so I don’t have as much expertise in this field as I once did, but I feel like aluminum canoes and or boats probably still, uh, mostly the same reasons. [0:32:45 – 0:32:51] Erik: And I think that there is, at least from my perspective, um, [0:32:52 – 0:32:59] Erik: a dwindling demand on people who actually want to rent aluminum canoes. [0:32:59 – 0:32:59] Adam: Yeah. [0:33:00 – 0:33:02] Erik: But they last forever. [0:33:03 – 0:33:04] Adam: Yeah, if you have them. [0:33:04 – 0:33:05] Adam: And some people want them. [0:33:05 – 0:33:06] Adam: So why not keep them around? [0:33:06 – 0:33:08] Adam: Unless you just don’t have space for them. [0:33:08 – 0:33:08] Adam: Yeah. [0:33:09 – 0:33:11] Adam: Which, come on, you can buy in space for an extra boat. [0:33:11 – 0:33:12] Adam: Yeah. [0:33:12 – 0:33:17] Adam: What’s the price difference on aluminum versus a Kevlar to rent at this point? [0:33:18 – 0:33:18] Adam: Rent? [0:33:18 – 0:33:18] Adam: Yeah. [0:33:18 – 0:33:19] Adam: Like half? [0:33:20 – 0:33:21] Adam: Oh, so it is way cheaper. [0:33:22 – 0:33:22] Erik: Yeah. [0:33:22 – 0:33:27] Erik: I mean, we were renting aluminums for like 27 a day and Kevlar’s, this is the tandem. [0:33:28 – 0:33:35] Erik: God forbid you call up an outfitter and ask for a three person aluminum because those things, those things are the worst. [0:33:36 – 0:33:38] Erik: I think I’ve mentioned those in the past. [0:33:38 – 0:33:42] Erik: Maybe I wanted to throw one off of the top of the Palisades. [0:33:42 – 0:33:44] Erik: I don’t know if that’s in the cards anymore. [0:33:44 – 0:33:45] Erik: I’d probably have to like buy one. [0:33:46 – 0:33:52] Erik: Um, but yeah, it was like 50, almost 50 for a two person Kevlar and almost 30 for a two person aluminum. [0:33:52 – 0:33:52] Erik: Um, [0:33:53 – 0:34:10] Erik: There are still some outfitters that buy them new, I know, but the biggest issue with buying new aluminums now, at least again, in terms of the last time I was in the game, as it were, is you can’t just buy like two aluminum canoes from, I think Alumacraft does still make canoes. [0:34:10 – 0:34:17] Erik: I have no idea if Grumman’s still out there at all, but they have minimum orders that they would actually take to make them. [0:34:18 – 0:34:21] Erik: So you have to get together with a bunch, and it’s not like five. [0:34:21 – 0:34:24] Erik: It’s like 25 or 35 or something insane. [0:34:24 – 0:34:26] Adam: They’re going to fire up the canoe plant for that week? [0:34:26 – 0:34:29] Erik: Yeah, you got to fire up the old press and the rivet gun. [0:34:31 – 0:34:40] Erik: So if you wanted to buy new ones, you would have to get with another outfitter or be like a YMCA camp or like one of the bigger outfitters in general. [0:34:42 – 0:34:49] Erik: And I think that, like I said, the only reason that you still see them on the water is because there is just enough of a demand and they last literally forever. [0:34:49 – 0:34:57] Erik: I know some of the ones at Clearwater that we had still had like their hull IDs ended in like 86. [0:34:58 – 0:34:59] Adam: Yeah, I mean… [0:35:00 – 0:35:01] Adam: man, my brother’s is up. [0:35:01 – 0:35:03] Adam: We were talking about the old Grumman we used to have. [0:35:04 – 0:35:07] Adam: It’s like, man, I wish we could trade to get that back at this point. [0:35:07 – 0:35:09] Adam: And yeah, that guy would probably just give it to us. [0:35:10 – 0:35:12] Adam: And then like using them, you know, but I don’t know. [0:35:12 – 0:35:14] Adam: And I would, I even really use it. [0:35:14 – 0:35:15] Adam: It would just be kind of fun to have one. [0:35:15 – 0:35:21] Erik: Yeah, there’s some crews that I remember that specifically wanted them because they were with like a church group or a scout group. [0:35:21 – 0:35:25] Erik: And it’s sort of like, well, we can’t just jump right into Kevlar’s. [0:35:25 – 0:35:27] Erik: First of all, these kids don’t know what they’re doing. [0:35:28 – 0:35:33] Erik: Second of all, it’s sort of a rite of passage to like experience the aluminum canoe on a portage. [0:35:33 – 0:35:34] Adam: Yeah, I guess so. [0:35:34 – 0:35:35] Adam: I mean, I just start with aluminums. [0:35:36 – 0:35:37] Adam: Yeah, sort of by choice. [0:35:37 – 0:35:41] Adam: As soon as I got my hands on Kevlar, it’s like, well, why would you do that to yourself? [0:35:41 – 0:35:41] Adam: Right. [0:35:42 – 0:36:07] Adam: you know i’m glad i had to do it you know you know what you’re made of then if you want to drag a big heavy aluminum canoe through a really muddy long portage and you make it to the other side right you know you learn something about yourself benefits beyond the fear of dinging up and paying the fees on kevlar repairs yeah i don’t know maybe the keel there’s definitely a small contingent of people that wanted that keel because they do track better in waves but [0:36:07 – 0:36:08] Erik: They sit way higher up. [0:36:08 – 0:36:15] Erik: I never thought aluminums felt to me like they were any more stable than a new Kevlar canoe. [0:36:15 – 0:36:20] Adam: But that was the one thing that I heard people claim was like they needed that keel. [0:36:20 – 0:36:22] Erik: And it does help you track a little bit. [0:36:22 – 0:36:23] Erik: I suppose it makes sense. [0:36:24 – 0:36:24] Adam: Sure. [0:36:25 – 0:36:28] Adam: Outside of that, yeah, not really too many benefits. [0:36:29 – 0:36:29] Erik: They’re loud. [0:36:30 – 0:36:41] Erik: The amount of effort that it takes to get those things from one lake to another, I think, greatly outweighs the enjoyment that you would get out of spending a little bit extra money and renting a Kevlar canoe. [0:36:43 – 0:36:43] Adam: Solved. [0:36:44 – 0:36:44] Erik: Solved. [0:36:44 – 0:36:45] Erik: Answered. [0:36:45 – 0:36:46] Erik: One check. [0:36:46 – 0:36:48] Erik: Big green checkmark. [0:36:48 – 0:36:48] Erik: Ding. [0:36:48 – 0:36:48] Erik: Ding. [0:36:50 – 0:36:51] Erik: Correct. [0:36:52 – 0:36:52] Erik: Ding, ding, ding. [0:36:53 – 0:37:03] Erik: I don’t know if we’re going to be getting too many more of these correct, although I did see some potential responses to question two, which is, I saw a unique bird by the brown volcano. [0:37:03 – 0:37:06] Erik: Looked like a small black chicken with fluffy tail feathers? [0:37:07 – 0:37:07] Erik: Question mark? [0:37:09 – 0:37:10] Erik: A woods chicken? [0:37:11 – 0:37:13] Erik: Yeah, it sounded like it would be a grouse or something. [0:37:13 – 0:37:14] Erik: Yeah, that’s what I’m thinking. [0:37:14 – 0:37:17] Erik: Checking my birding book back at home, and it looks like it could be the spruce grouse. [0:37:18 – 0:37:19] Adam: Yeah, that’s what I would guess. [0:37:19 – 0:37:20] Adam: Or roughed grouse. [0:37:21 – 0:37:23] Adam: That’s probably spruce if you said it was black. [0:37:23 – 0:37:24] Adam: You called it black? [0:37:25 – 0:37:25] Adam: Yeah. [0:37:25 – 0:37:26] Adam: Black chicken. [0:37:26 – 0:37:28] Adam: Yeah, that was a spruce grouse. [0:37:28 – 0:37:30] Erik: That’s great. [0:37:30 – 0:37:37] Erik: A couple of the responses were red-bellied woodpecker, probably grouse, and I would guess small black chicken. [0:37:37 – 0:37:38] Erik: You were spot on. [0:37:39 – 0:37:40] Adam: Yeah, you nailed it. [0:37:41 – 0:37:41] Erik: First try. [0:37:42 – 0:37:49] Erik: Uh, the third question is one that we, uh, I mean, is a major focus and focal point of the lore of this show. [0:37:49 – 0:38:05] Erik: Um, dating back to, I don’t even know, early days in the, probably in the first 20 episodes, this came up, maybe even before that, the existence of charred logs, dozens of feet from the fire pit. [0:38:06 – 0:38:06] Erik: Um, [0:38:07 – 0:38:09] Erik: Hard to believe wind would be the cause. [0:38:09 – 0:38:14] Erik: Could this be from snow and then the thaw pushing fire pit remnants all around the site? [0:38:15 – 0:38:15] Erik: No. [0:38:16 – 0:38:18] Erik: No, it’s not like the rocks out in Death Valley. [0:38:19 – 0:38:25] Erik: It’s definitely just idiot people who want to throw an entire log on the fire that is… [0:38:26 – 0:38:29] Adam: It has no place in one to begin with. [0:38:29 – 0:38:32] Adam: Unfortunately, the simplest answer is the correct one here. [0:38:32 – 0:38:33] Adam: Yeah. [0:38:33 – 0:38:34] Adam: There’s some real knuckleheads out there. [0:38:34 – 0:38:46] Erik: Bobby and Rex and the lack of any kind of a concept of how that could actually be, not actually be, but is actually leaving a trace. [0:38:47 – 0:38:47] Adam: Yeah. [0:38:48 – 0:38:50] Erik: Especially when it’s multiple characters. [0:38:51 – 0:38:57] Erik: And if there is any time to put on a log of like a hefty size like that, it’s right away. [0:38:57 – 0:39:01] Erik: If you’re going to try, get it in the fire right away so it actually has a chance to. [0:39:02 – 0:39:03] Adam: And work on it a little. [0:39:03 – 0:39:03] Erik: Yeah. [0:39:03 – 0:39:09] Erik: Not just throw one on at the end of the night where all you do is just like kind of like scald off the bark. [0:39:09 – 0:39:09] Adam: Yeah. [0:39:09 – 0:39:10] Adam: Charred a good mountain. [0:39:11 – 0:39:11] Adam: All right. [0:39:11 – 0:39:12] Adam: Kick her off to the side. [0:39:12 – 0:39:12] Erik: Yeah. [0:39:13 – 0:39:14] Erik: And then it’s just nasty. [0:39:14 – 0:39:18] Erik: And then if you want to try to move it, your hands are just covered in soot. [0:39:19 – 0:39:20] Erik: It just looks trashy. [0:39:21 – 0:39:30] Erik: I mean, I’m sure there is a slight chance that maybe one or two in the history of the Boundary Waters has been like a winter fire that is maybe washed on shore. [0:39:30 – 0:39:32] Erik: But most of these are just trash. [0:39:33 – 0:39:49] Erik: chuckle heads there you go there you go i think that one is a full green check mark correct answer for sure anyone out there successfully sourced and or made a replica bwca fire pit setup outside of the park [0:39:49 – 0:39:50] Adam: Oh, I remember this question. [0:39:50 – 0:39:50] Adam: I love this. [0:39:50 – 0:39:55] Erik: Seen some threads elsewhere, and it looks as if it’s not something easily procured. [0:39:55 – 0:40:07] Erik: Before we get into depth about this, I do work with somebody whose parents are ex-forest service employees, specifically rangers, and they have a fire grate at their house. [0:40:07 – 0:40:07] Adam: No. [0:40:08 – 0:40:08] Adam: Of course. [0:40:08 – 0:40:10] Adam: They absconded with one. [0:40:10 – 0:40:15] Erik: Yeah, those would be the only ones that I would think would be like official Smith or Nina foundry greats. [0:40:15 – 0:40:16] Adam: Yeah, in the yard. [0:40:16 – 0:40:19] Adam: It would be so great to have one of them just set up. [0:40:19 – 0:40:20] Adam: Of course. [0:40:20 – 0:40:21] Adam: You can call Smith up. [0:40:22 – 0:40:24] Adam: Minimum order is 25 greats, though. [0:40:24 – 0:40:29] Adam: We’ve got to pool up some other weirdos who want these. [0:40:29 – 0:40:30] Adam: Anybody else out there want to get in on it? [0:40:31 – 0:40:31] Adam: Yeah. [0:40:31 – 0:40:32] Adam: Hit us up on the subreddit. [0:40:34 – 0:40:56] Adam: uh yeah that would be sweet to have like your own like replica i’ve seen a business where they like you basically like recreate like the forest service looking classic brown and yellow sign anything you want to say you know it’s sort of like that nostalgic smoky the bear is pointing your way home kind of feel but not seeing anywhere i can get myself a smith [0:40:58 – 0:41:00] Erik: No, and I don’t know if I necessarily would be… [0:41:01 – 0:41:03] Erik: I mean, I think it would be cool. [0:41:03 – 0:41:06] Adam: Nothing about it… You know, stack some rocks around it. [0:41:06 – 0:41:10] Erik: Yeah, no, it would be cool to have, but I just don’t know if that is necessarily… [0:41:10 – 0:41:12] Erik: I’m picturing it in somebody’s backyard, you know? [0:41:13 – 0:41:13] Adam: Mm-hmm. [0:41:14 – 0:41:28] Erik: I don’t think too many people especially in this part of the country are having nice little like neat meticulously cut like boundary water style campfires in their backyard yeah most people are throwing on whole logs it’s bonfire time back there yeah [0:41:29 – 0:41:46] Adam: so it’s more for the cook on it yeah it would be more for like the trying to like recreate a little bit of that yeah i can see setting this up out on the land you know yeah kind of got like a unlimited supply of firewood out there and a little bench face in the pond yeah be kind of neat there [0:41:47 – 0:41:53] Erik: I mean, we always talk about how we prefer the Quetico style fire, lack of a fire pit. [0:41:53 – 0:41:53] Adam: Yeah. [0:41:54 – 0:41:54] Adam: And that’s what… [0:41:54 – 0:41:58] Adam: I’m not really cooking on the fire at home too much where I would need that, but it would still be cool. [0:41:58 – 0:42:00] Adam: I hadn’t really thought of it though. [0:42:00 – 0:42:07] Adam: Now, if I ever do see, if I ever have the ability to acquire a Smith fire grade, I will pull the trigger. [0:42:08 – 0:42:08] Erik: Yeah. [0:42:08 – 0:42:09] Erik: I wonder what… [0:42:11 – 0:42:18] Erik: actual methods outside of just making off with one as a retired forest service Ranger. [0:42:19 – 0:42:19] Erik: Right. [0:42:19 – 0:42:32] Erik: May do like how you, I’m sure there’s like a way you can actually do that on your own, but yeah, it’s one thing to like carve the like relief map of the depth of Clearwater Lake into some wood. [0:42:32 – 0:42:38] Erik: I think it’s another thing to forge that kind of steel at home. [0:42:39 – 0:42:39] Erik: I guess you could 3d print it. [0:42:39 – 0:42:40] Erik: Yeah. [0:42:41 – 0:42:41] Adam: There you go. [0:42:42 – 0:42:46] Adam: You got to dig down a couple layers to find the good metal. [0:42:46 – 0:42:48] Erik: Yeah, how do you think that they do that when they’re out there? [0:42:49 – 0:42:56] Erik: We’ve seen this a number of times where they, like, there was that one campsite on, what was it? [0:42:56 – 0:42:57] Erik: Allen. [0:42:57 – 0:42:57] Erik: Allen. [0:42:57 – 0:42:58] Erik: I don’t know. [0:42:58 – 0:42:59] Erik: I almost said Ross. [0:42:59 – 0:43:00] Erik: It’s another man’s name. [0:43:00 – 0:43:02] Erik: Who was the most famous Ross? [0:43:04 – 0:43:13] Erik: Were they, like, the fourth hole either didn’t line up or it was, like, they started by setting up the fire grate way too close to the lake? [0:43:13 – 0:43:13] Erik: Like, how are they? [0:43:14 – 0:43:15] Erik: Is this, like, a hand drill? [0:43:16 – 0:43:16] Adam: Yeah, I don’t know. [0:43:17 – 0:43:24] Erik: I assume it’s like… One of those big, like an egg beater, except instead of the top, it’s just like a big rock drill. [0:43:25 – 0:43:26] Adam: Yeah, I don’t know. [0:43:26 – 0:43:30] Adam: I’d love to know how they do that setting of the fire grate into the rock like that. [0:43:31 – 0:43:37] Erik: Or can you bring out like a, because I know battery operated augers in the winter are not allowed. [0:43:37 – 0:43:38] Erik: Right. [0:43:38 – 0:43:43] Erik: But people that I know on trips specifically say they called the Forest Service and they said no. [0:43:43 – 0:43:50] Erik: So I wouldn’t imagine that they could bring out like a big like power drill, even if it was battery operated. [0:43:50 – 0:43:50] Adam: Yeah. [0:43:50 – 0:43:53] Adam: Or is it like a, yeah, it looks like it is perfectly round too. [0:43:53 – 0:43:55] Adam: So it’s not like just a punch. [0:43:55 – 0:43:55] Adam: No. [0:43:55 – 0:43:56] Adam: Yeah. [0:43:56 – 0:44:00] Erik: It’s got to be something that’s pulling rock out as it’s drilling. [0:44:01 – 0:44:22] Erik: yeah i don’t even a diamond tipped hand stone auger i don’t i’ve never heard of such a thing that would be insane yeah like just like an ice auger except it’s just an inch yeah maybe maybe nils has got a inside track with some forest service i don’t know any rangers out there any uh great installers how do you install those things [0:44:23 – 0:44:26] Erik: Yeah, well, your question has elicited more questions. [0:44:27 – 0:44:28] Adam: That’s a good question, then. [0:44:29 – 0:44:38] Erik: I think that would be fun as a novelty, but I’d probably end up getting frustrated with it just because of the size, as we have spoken on numerous occasions before. [0:44:39 – 0:44:43] Adam: What if you get a really big version of a fire grate, like double-sized? [0:44:43 – 0:44:44] Erik: Quadruple-sized. [0:44:44 – 0:44:46] Adam: Yeah, quad-sized. [0:44:46 – 0:44:46] Adam: Like four of them? [0:44:47 – 0:44:49] Adam: Yeah, it’s real big. [0:44:49 – 0:44:58] Erik: Yeah, it seemed like it would probably, I don’t know how you could scale that kind of metal without it probably either warping or breaking really easily. [0:44:59 – 0:45:00] Erik: You just have to make it thicker. [0:45:00 – 0:45:02] Adam: Yeah, bigger and thicker. [0:45:02 – 0:45:03] Erik: Mm-hmm. [0:45:03 – 0:45:06] Erik: We get it bigger and thicker. [0:45:06 – 0:45:07] Adam: Yeah. [0:45:08 – 0:45:09] Adam: Taller also. [0:45:09 – 0:45:10] Adam: Taller, yeah. [0:45:10 – 0:45:11] Erik: You would definitely need taller legs. [0:45:12 – 0:45:13] Erik: And wider. [0:45:13 – 0:45:13] Erik: Mm-hmm. [0:45:14 – 0:45:18] Adam: Yeah, you’d need some really big rocks to adorn it with then. [0:45:19 – 0:45:19] Erik: Yeah. [0:45:21 – 0:45:21] Erik: All right. [0:45:21 – 0:45:26] Erik: I don’t know if the check mark is fully green and making the fun noise of being correct, but… [0:45:27 – 0:45:28] Adam: I’m going to look into… [0:45:28 – 0:45:30] Adam: I’m going to need to do a little more research on this one. [0:45:30 – 0:45:31] Erik: Yeah, it’s like a light… [0:45:32 – 0:45:33] Adam: I wrote it down in my notes. [0:45:34 – 0:45:34] Erik: Okay. [0:45:34 – 0:45:37] Erik: It’s like a light brown question mark that we have provided you with. [0:45:39 – 0:45:39] Erik: I’m intrigued. [0:45:40 – 0:45:40] Erik: Intrigued? [0:45:43 – 0:45:43] Erik: How about this one? [0:45:44 – 0:45:44] Erik: All right. [0:45:46 – 0:45:53] Erik: If you would have asked me a few years ago, I would claim to be a purist and would scoff at the thought of even playing music in the park. [0:45:53 – 0:45:59] Erik: Now, however, I feel comforted on solo trips having a little music at my fingertips. [0:46:00 – 0:46:06] Erik: However, I am very cognizant of people around me and usually only play music very quietly if I know I am the only person on the lake. [0:46:08 – 0:46:11] Adam: Not me, I blast Pink Floyd at midnight. [0:46:12 – 0:46:14] Adam: Well… As loud as my phone will go. [0:46:14 – 0:46:14] Erik: Yeah. [0:46:15 – 0:46:21] Erik: Yeah, I used to be, I think, probably more along the lines of you. [0:46:22 – 0:46:23] Erik: In terms of the… Not you. [0:46:23 – 0:46:25] Erik: I’m looking at the computer screen. [0:46:25 – 0:46:26] Erik: You. [0:46:27 – 0:46:27] Erik: Question… [0:46:29 – 0:46:29] Adam: Wirt Jr. [0:46:29 – 0:46:30] Erik: Ask her. [0:46:30 – 0:46:33] Erik: That’s going to be confusing. [0:46:33 – 0:46:40] Erik: Yeah, I remember right away a couple of trips that friends of mine wanted to bring, like, full-blown, like, Bluetooth speakers, and I was like, no. [0:46:40 – 0:46:41] Erik: Yeah. [0:46:41 – 0:46:42] Erik: Can’t do that. [0:46:42 – 0:46:42] Erik: That’s not good. [0:46:42 – 0:46:44] Erik: That’s just a recipe for disaster. [0:46:44 – 0:46:45] Erik: Because I’m against it now. [0:46:46 – 0:46:49] Erik: But you cut to, like, three days later, and I’ve been drinking. [0:46:50 – 0:46:52] Erik: Yeah, let’s get that party going. [0:46:52 – 0:46:53] Adam: Get the wine out. [0:46:53 – 0:46:57] Adam: Yeah, and you’re like, oh, you know, a song gets in your head, and you happen to have it on your phone. [0:46:57 – 0:46:58] Adam: Oh, sure, put it on. [0:46:59 – 0:47:27] Adam: i don’t know i kind of go half and half on this one depends it all depends yeah and as long as you’re not being a total jackass to your neighbors about it yeah or like blaring it right down the shoreline on a big wide open lake when there’s no wind like alice or something like that a cone bay that’s just funneling and pressing out the music even harder yeah yeah you know as long as you’re aware of your surroundings a little bit i don’t have a problem with it but [0:47:27 – 0:47:32] Erik: I feel like if you’re out there by yourself and you’re not bothering anybody else, do whatever you want to do. [0:47:34 – 0:47:42] Erik: If you’re with a group of nine people, though, and you just all of a sudden start playing music, I mean, that can definitely… Somebody has an expectation that they’re going to go out there and not experience that. [0:47:43 – 0:47:45] Erik: That’s definitely… That would be a game changer, I think. [0:47:45 – 0:47:49] Erik: I don’t know if it would be huge, but I don’t know. [0:47:49 – 0:47:51] Erik: It could be the beginning of a larger rift. [0:47:53 – 0:47:57] Adam: Did we ever talk about our idea for the spinoff show called 100 Cranks? [0:47:58 – 0:47:58] Adam: Yes. [0:47:59 – 0:48:13] Adam: In which we give the handheld radio 100 cranks of power and then just scan through the dial until the radio dies and then comment on what we were able to tune in. [0:48:13 – 0:48:14] Erik: I think we did mention that. [0:48:14 – 0:48:17] Erik: That was on Thomas, I think. [0:48:17 – 0:48:20] Erik: That was on Thomas, the night on Thomas. [0:48:20 – 0:48:22] Erik: I believe we probably maybe mentioned it the next morning. [0:48:23 – 0:48:24] Erik: There is audio somewhere. [0:48:24 – 0:48:29] Adam: We did a test episode of 100 Cranks that never got released. [0:48:29 – 0:48:29] Erik: No, no. [0:48:29 – 0:48:32] Adam: We should put that over the Patreons if it didn’t get deleted. [0:48:32 – 0:48:33] Adam: Let me check. [0:48:33 – 0:48:34] Adam: It’s been deleted. [0:48:35 – 0:48:36] Erik: Yeah, check notes. [0:48:36 – 0:48:37] Erik: It has been deleted. [0:48:37 – 0:48:39] Erik: Trevor is shaking his head in disgust. [0:48:41 – 0:49:05] Erik: yeah he deleted it immediately no he’s giving us the uh to stop talking about this which yeah okay moving on question six all right i can only speak from experience i have been in this conundrum and we found a somewhat desolate point that we could set up one tent and all squeeze in [0:49:06 – 0:49:08] Erik: We did not make a fire. [0:49:08 – 0:49:09] Erik: We did not stake it down. [0:49:10 – 0:49:11] Erik: And we got up at first light. [0:49:11 – 0:49:12] Erik: It sucked. [0:49:14 – 0:49:19] Erik: I don’t know if that’s a… Hey, speaking of, I don’t know if this is a question or not. [0:49:20 – 0:49:23] Adam: I’m assuming this question is… Is Campton not a campsite? [0:49:25 – 0:49:28] Erik: Yeah, if you can camp at a place that’s not a campsite. [0:49:28 – 0:49:31] Adam: Is he asking if this is cool or is he just saying he had to do this? [0:49:32 – 0:49:35] Erik: Yeah, this is… Again, I feel like the question is… [0:49:37 – 0:50:06] Erik: validate my decision to do this and i’m not hey i don’t care um it’s not like you hacked out a new campsite i would imagine this probably came at the end of a long day where there were no more campsites available um if everybody got into the one tent and you left and couldn’t tell that you camped there yeah i mean obviously you said it yourself it sucked usually that casual pma [0:50:07 – 0:50:11] Erik: Yeah, usually that situation is not going to be a great one and most people aren’t like… Yeah. [0:50:11 – 0:50:13] Adam: If they have to do it, just use the PMA rules. [0:50:13 – 0:50:14] Adam: Yeah, exactly. [0:50:14 – 0:50:15] Adam: Try and leave as little… [0:50:15 – 0:50:19] Adam: It sounds like you did that, so… Oh, dear. [0:50:19 – 0:50:20] Erik: What do we got now? [0:50:21 – 0:50:22] Adam: Oh, God. [0:50:22 – 0:50:22] Erik: What is it? [0:50:23 – 0:50:23] Adam: Arrow. [0:50:24 – 0:50:24] Adam: Oh, no! [0:50:24 – 0:50:25] Adam: What is it? [0:50:26 – 0:50:27] Adam: Oh, it’s just a hunk of wood. [0:50:27 – 0:50:29] Adam: What are you doing, you creep? [0:50:29 – 0:50:31] Adam: Jesus, you had me. [0:50:32 – 0:50:32] Adam: God. [0:50:32 – 0:50:36] Adam: What is with that side of the shed always with the scares? [0:50:36 – 0:50:38] Erik: I think I’m just going to pee my pants instead of going outside. [0:50:39 – 0:50:39] Erik: I’m too spooked. [0:50:39 – 0:50:40] Erik: What was that? [0:50:40 – 0:50:41] Erik: I don’t know. [0:50:42 – 0:50:46] Adam: Man, hopefully it wasn’t a poltergeist. [0:50:46 – 0:50:47] Erik: No, God no. [0:50:47 – 0:50:49] Adam: Hopefully it was just a residual haunting. [0:50:49 – 0:50:50] Erik: Yeah. [0:50:51 – 0:50:52] Adam: That was very odd. [0:50:53 – 0:50:57] Adam: It’s like three shows in a row where we’ve gotten spooked by a weird noise. [0:50:58 – 0:51:02] Adam: Arrow’s not helping by grabbing onto stuff and digging in the corner. [0:51:02 – 0:51:03] Adam: Come on, Arrow. [0:51:03 – 0:51:06] Adam: I don’t think we even said that Arrow’s with us here in the shed. [0:51:07 – 0:51:09] Adam: She was being good up until then. [0:51:09 – 0:51:10] Erik: Oh, sorry. [0:51:11 – 0:51:11] Erik: Completely… [0:51:14 – 0:51:20] Erik: I was down at somebody who had responded to questions on thoughts on music being played. [0:51:20 – 0:51:22] Erik: And that was actually somebody’s response. [0:51:22 – 0:51:24] Erik: So that’s why it didn’t sound like a question. [0:51:24 – 0:51:24] Erik: I see. [0:51:24 – 0:51:25] Erik: It was a response. [0:51:25 – 0:51:25] Erik: Yes. [0:51:25 – 0:51:32] Erik: Question six is, if you can’t find a site, would you rather set up camp at a portage or simply sleep in your canoe bundled up somewhere along the shore? [0:51:32 – 0:51:33] Erik: Wow. [0:51:33 – 0:51:35] Adam: I never considered the mummification technique. [0:51:35 – 0:51:36] Adam: Yeah. [0:51:36 – 0:51:59] Adam: weather permitting what do you mean why even go to shore then yeah just set yourself adrift anybody out there ever just laid down in the canoe and fell asleep and just that’s a true whichever way the wind blows eric right maybe this two maybe this two milligram thc is getting to me i would do i don’t know it sounds like fun just go out and just whichever way the wind blows [0:52:00 – 0:52:29] Erik: sleep on your canoe for the night until you until you impact land somewhere and then get up and try and find your way home this sounds like an exciting new game to play it does sound pretty amazing and i don’t think there’s technically anything illegal about sleeping in your canoe no definitely not i think that’s fine i’m in i think this is we’ve toyed with this idea in the past instead of um uh not toyed with the actual idea of doing it but just wondering about if it would work and that would be um putting your canoe out in the lake with your food in it [0:52:30 – 0:52:30] Adam: Yeah. [0:52:30 – 0:52:31] Adam: I’ve cleaned fish. [0:52:32 – 0:52:36] Adam: I had to go back out in the canoe because the bugs are so bad to clean the fish out on the lake. [0:52:37 – 0:52:37] Erik: Yeah. [0:52:37 – 0:52:41] Adam: I don’t know if… You can’t afford to just be sitting in camp cleaning a fish. [0:52:41 – 0:52:41] Adam: Yeah. [0:52:42 – 0:52:42] Adam: You will get mauled. [0:52:43 – 0:52:43] Erik: Right. [0:52:44 – 0:52:46] Adam: But never just to go out and anchor. [0:52:46 – 0:52:48] Adam: I don’t think there’s anything wrong with like… [0:52:49 – 0:52:55] Adam: rigging up a rock anchor with some P cord and just like anchoring offshore and just sleeping in your canoe. [0:52:55 – 0:52:58] Erik: No, I don’t think there’s anything necessarily wrong with that or against the rules. [0:52:59 – 0:53:13] Erik: I just don’t, I do not think I could ever get comfortable enough where I would feel like falling asleep would not just end with me not really realizing I was still in a canoe like three hours later and just flipping the thing over. [0:53:13 – 0:53:13] Erik: Oh, [0:53:14 – 0:53:15] Adam: I don’t know. [0:53:15 – 0:53:17] Adam: I don’t think I really wake up that wildly. [0:53:17 – 0:53:20] Erik: Well, I mean, I roll and turn over. [0:53:20 – 0:53:22] Adam: Yeah, it depends on how wavy it is, I guess. [0:53:22 – 0:53:23] Erik: Yeah. [0:53:23 – 0:53:29] Erik: Well, we have to give credit now to SquareJaw77, who did respond to both of those that I read as questions. [0:53:29 – 0:53:30] Erik: They were not questions. [0:53:30 – 0:53:33] Erik: They were answers to the questions five and six. [0:53:34 – 0:53:34] Erik: Ah. [0:53:35 – 0:53:35] Erik: Yeah. [0:53:35 – 0:53:40] Erik: So the question on whether or not music is allowed, yeah, again, we’ve kind of answered that. [0:53:40 – 0:53:48] Erik: And then, I mean, if it’s between setting up camp on a portage or sleeping in a canoe, I think it’s insane to think that sleeping in a canoe would be like the go-to option. [0:53:48 – 0:53:51] Adam: Yeah, you just bang your canoe up somehow or yourself. [0:53:51 – 0:53:56] Erik: Yeah, I mean, or if you have a hammock, yeah, just set up somewhere that you can just set up and get up. [0:53:56 – 0:53:57] Erik: PMA camp. [0:53:58 – 0:53:59] Erik: First light and get moving. [0:53:59 – 0:54:00] Adam: I wouldn’t want to be set up on a portage. [0:54:00 – 0:54:06] Erik: I don’t know how you would do the sleep in your canoe thing without having to leave your gear on shore somewhere. [0:54:07 – 0:54:07] Erik: Yeah. [0:54:07 – 0:54:12] Erik: And then you’d have to pick through your pack enough to get your sleeping pad and sleeping bag out. [0:54:12 – 0:54:13] Erik: Sounds horrible, yeah. [0:54:13 – 0:54:16] Erik: And then getting in, where do you even lay down in a canoe? [0:54:16 – 0:54:16] Erik: Yeah. [0:54:17 – 0:54:18] Erik: Under the gunnel then? [0:54:18 – 0:54:19] Erik: Yeah, you got to slither in there. [0:54:19 – 0:54:20] Adam: That sounds dangerous, actually. [0:54:20 – 0:54:23] Adam: You could really sarcophagus yourself. [0:54:23 – 0:54:27] Erik: How hard it is to writhe to get into a hammock and then the idea of writhing in a canoe? [0:54:27 – 0:54:29] Adam: Yeah. [0:54:30 – 0:54:32] Adam: Boy, I don’t like this, actually. [0:54:32 – 0:54:34] Adam: On third thought, no thanks. [0:54:34 – 0:54:35] Adam: Yeah, no, I’m not. [0:54:35 – 0:54:36] Adam: You don’t want to sleep in a canoe. [0:54:36 – 0:54:37] Erik: Oh, God, no. [0:54:39 – 0:55:02] Adam: yeah i guess i would just pma camp this thing all right just find anywhere you can get a hammock up or nestle your bag you know onto a a soft spot of pine needle somewhere and just just hunker down for the night and then move on early yeah that’s the way that’s the play there yeah all right last question this is actually the question [0:55:03 – 0:55:12] Erik: I was camping on Rib Lake, not the best site, but did happen to see a bald eagle fly right above the tree canopy while eating breakfast. [0:55:13 – 0:55:19] Erik: I actually heard it a split second before it passed directly above me, which is what made me look up to catch it. [0:55:19 – 0:55:22] Erik: Do you think it was looking to see if I left any scraps? [0:55:23 – 0:55:28] Erik: Do you think they have locked in on campsite locations looking for spare pizza biters? [0:55:29 – 0:55:30] Adam: Yeah. [0:55:30 – 0:55:37] Erik: I mean, I don’t know necessarily about bald eagles, but I imagine it probably translates across bird, the bird kingdom. [0:55:37 – 0:55:39] Adam: Yeah, they’re pretty intelligent. [0:55:39 – 0:55:44] Erik: I mean, if squirrels and mice are getting used to there being campsites around, I’m sure birds are doing the same thing. [0:55:45 – 0:55:47] Adam: Yeah, I think I did have pizza biters on rib. [0:55:48 – 0:55:48] Erik: Wow. [0:55:48 – 0:55:50] Adam: Yeah, on our Frost River trip. [0:55:50 – 0:55:56] Adam: I think we stopped on rib for like lunch on day one and made up a thing of stove biters. [0:55:57 – 0:55:57] Adam: Yeah. [0:55:58 – 0:56:00] Adam: If I’m thinking about this right, let’s check the map. [0:56:07 – 0:56:08] Erik: There it is. [0:56:08 – 0:56:11] Erik: War Club, right there in the middle of the lake. [0:56:11 – 0:56:12] Erik: War Club Lake. [0:56:13 – 0:56:13] Erik: War Club? [0:56:14 – 0:56:15] Adam: Never heard of it. [0:56:16 – 0:56:18] Adam: That’s not in Cook County. [0:56:20 – 0:56:22] Adam: It’s in the Pat Bale State Forest, actually. [0:56:23 – 0:56:24] Erik: Pat Bale. [0:56:24 – 0:56:25] Erik: State Forest. [0:56:25 – 0:56:28] Erik: SquareJaw77 has a good response to this. [0:56:28 – 0:56:34] Erik: Again, we are appreciating the responses so this person could gather more clarity. [0:56:35 – 0:56:38] Erik: And we’ve done our best to answer them on our side. [0:56:38 – 0:56:40] Erik: But I did appreciate in regards to the eagle. [0:56:41 – 0:56:47] Erik: His response is, I 100% think those patriotic vultures are after scraps. [0:56:47 – 0:56:53] Erik: I was in a burn zone right after it opened, and those bald-headed squawk rats made noise all night. [0:56:53 – 0:56:54] Erik: Squawk rats. [0:56:54 – 0:56:56] Erik: Sounded like car alarms going off. [0:56:56 – 0:56:57] Adam: He sure wasn’t a two-headed eagle. [0:56:58 – 0:57:01] Erik: Ooh, that’s… Yeah, you would not… What would they say? [0:57:01 – 0:57:03] Adam: They’ve gone too far east? [0:57:03 – 0:57:03] Adam: Yeah. [0:57:04 – 0:57:05] Adam: Jesus. [0:57:05 – 0:57:12] Erik: As soon as we caught fish and decided to take care of the remains, they were all over us, and I do not look at bald eagles the same. [0:57:12 – 0:57:17] Erik: They are only majestic in my memory and as pictured on the back of Rex’s F-250. [0:57:18 – 0:57:20] Adam: Yeah, I mean, there’s been times where… [0:57:22 – 0:57:35] Erik: Based on places that I have worked at, we have to like dump gut piles in different places, especially late into the season where it’s kind of starting to get cold and you go to the gut pile and there’s like 12 bald eagles just all sitting on the ground. [0:57:36 – 0:57:43] Erik: It kind of takes away the majesty when there’s just a bunch of them and they’re all just kind of sitting there taking easy advantage. [0:57:43 – 0:57:45] Erik: Not nearly like the soaring. [0:57:46 – 0:57:49] Erik: It’s not nearly as majestic as the turkey, I’ll say that. [0:57:49 – 0:57:50] Adam: No, not even close. [0:57:50 – 0:57:52] Adam: It’s not even close. [0:57:52 – 0:57:54] Adam: How many questions was that then? [0:57:54 – 0:57:54] Adam: Seven. [0:57:54 – 0:57:55] Adam: Seven questions. [0:57:55 – 0:57:56] Erik: Yeah. [0:57:56 – 0:57:58] Adam: That’s a pretty good seven questions. [0:57:58 – 0:57:58] Adam: Yeah. [0:57:58 – 0:58:00] Adam: I like the fire great question quite a bit. [0:58:00 – 0:58:00] Erik: Yes. [0:58:02 – 0:58:03] Erik: Only two were bungled. [0:58:05 – 0:58:10] Adam: I was perusing our BWCA for some reason. [0:58:11 – 0:58:12] Adam: I’m not a member anymore. [0:58:12 – 0:58:13] Adam: I got kicked out. [0:58:16 – 0:58:16] Adam: You got banned? [0:58:16 – 0:58:19] Adam: I can’t comment, but I can look. [0:58:19 – 0:58:20] Erik: Nobody can stop you from looking. [0:58:21 – 0:58:24] Erik: And that’s where I sponsored NordVPN comes in. [0:58:26 – 0:58:28] Adam: Update their updates for sure. [0:58:28 – 0:58:30] Adam: You want to update those as much as possible. [0:58:31 – 0:58:32] Adam: Uh, there is a question on there. [0:58:32 – 0:58:37] Adam: I’m not giving any credit to anybody on this, but it was just about fire. [0:58:37 – 0:58:39] Adam: It was about wood numbing essentially. [0:58:39 – 0:58:41] Adam: And we did have a question about what’s up with. [0:58:42 – 0:59:01] Adam: you know that and so the it was just interesting that they’re like what do you guys think about like if you have extra firewood like just leaving it for the next camper and like it was literally like 99 percent of the responses were like of course just leave it that’s the tradition did you see anybody referencing getting wood gnome i saw two different references to what gnome [0:59:02 – 0:59:04] Adam: One for sure from a friend of the show, Scotty Baldwin. [0:59:05 – 0:59:10] Adam: He did give a shout out to the specific episode of Tumble Home or Wood Gnoming. [0:59:10 – 0:59:14] Adam: Yeah, he’s like a foreign diplomat for us there on that subreddit. [0:59:14 – 0:59:16] Adam: He’s doing the good work over there at RBWCA. [0:59:16 – 0:59:23] Erik: Yeah, hopefully he doesn’t have to flee under an oncoming war or jump in a helicopter like Saigon or something. [0:59:23 – 0:59:30] Adam: And one other person did call it wood gnoming, but did not reference where, you know, didn’t give us credit for it at least. [0:59:30 – 0:59:34] Erik: I don’t necessarily know that I needed credit, but I just wanted to see that that term. [0:59:34 – 0:59:34] Erik: Yeah. [0:59:35 – 0:59:39] Adam: Yeah, I was, I guess, kind of surprised to see it was mentioned as wood gnoming, but yeah. [0:59:39 – 0:59:41] Erik: I think maybe it was, I don’t know where it was. [0:59:41 – 0:59:42] Erik: Maybe it was on there. [0:59:42 – 0:59:49] Erik: I feel like I haven’t been on there in a long time, but it was a picture of just somebody who had left behind like a half cord of wood. [0:59:50 – 0:59:52] Erik: It was like, all right, that maybe is a little too much. [0:59:52 – 0:59:54] Erik: No, I think that was on the Discord. [0:59:55 – 0:59:55] Adam: Oh, was it? [0:59:55 – 1:00:00] Adam: Somebody posted that on the Discord from like a Facebook group, like some Boundary Waters Facebook group. [1:00:00 – 1:00:01] Adam: Oh, that’s what it was. [1:00:01 – 1:00:05] Adam: Somebody posted a screen grab of a group onto the Discord. [1:00:05 – 1:00:07] Erik: And the group was like, man, we’re such good bonjour campers. [1:00:07 – 1:00:08] Erik: Look at what we did. [1:00:09 – 1:00:09] Erik: Yeah. [1:00:09 – 1:00:11] Adam: And it was like grandpa’s woodshed. [1:00:11 – 1:00:12] Adam: Yeah. [1:00:12 – 1:00:14] Adam: And people were like, that’s maybe too much. [1:00:14 – 1:00:16] Adam: Yeah, that’s insane. [1:00:16 – 1:00:16] Adam: I mean… [1:00:17 – 1:00:45] Adam: um but then part of the discussion on there which i found interesting and sort of relates to one of the seven questions tonight was like yeah is this leave no trace if you’re like leaving a pile of firewood and everybody was like there’s a fire grate just leave the firewood what are you doing yeah and uh yeah i didn’t see one comment where they’re like that’s bad but then somebody was like well yeah if you leave like a big charred log though in camp that is not considered leaving firewood you got to leave nice like split firewood if you’re going to pull this off [1:00:45 – 1:01:00] Erik: sure but i feel like leaving a half court is probably that’s over it’s a little i wouldn’t say like you’ve left a trace or anything but it’s like yeah i don’t know it’s it’s kind of like blasting pink floyd at full volume in the middle of the night you know kind of just like that [1:01:00 – 1:01:25] Adam: get it together you know you can listen to you can listen to like you know the news or the weather report at a tasteful volume that’s like leaving some split cedar there right you see what i’m doing yeah a little bit to get you going i just like i don’t know i just saw the thread and then i didn’t even know that one of the seven questions pertained to this exact topic so it was actually pretty nice that that just like worked out how fortuitous [1:01:26 – 1:01:26] Adam: How neat. [1:01:26 – 1:01:28] Adam: And then there was another one on here. [1:01:28 – 1:01:29] Adam: I don’t know. [1:01:29 – 1:01:30] Adam: It just caught my eye. [1:01:31 – 1:01:38] Adam: Somebody paddleboarded from Rainy Lake all the way out to the Grand Portage to Lake Superior. [1:01:38 – 1:01:40] Erik: The Grand Portage to stand up paddleboard? [1:01:40 – 1:01:41] Adam: A sup. [1:01:41 – 1:01:42] Adam: Oh, God. [1:01:42 – 1:01:47] Adam: In five days, 10 hours, and 30 minutes, which apparently is a new world record. [1:01:47 – 1:01:48] Erik: Wow. [1:01:48 – 1:01:49] Erik: I guess. [1:01:49 – 1:01:50] Adam: For the border route. [1:01:50 – 1:01:50] Adam: Okay. [1:01:51 – 1:01:53] Adam: So that seems pretty quick. [1:01:53 – 1:01:54] Adam: Yeah, that does seem very quick. [1:01:54 – 1:01:55] Adam: I don’t know. [1:01:55 – 1:01:58] Adam: I mean, I guess if you pack light, they weigh nothing. [1:01:59 – 1:02:08] Adam: Honestly, I’d much rather Grand Portage a sup than a four-person Kevlar or an aluminum tandem. [1:02:08 – 1:02:08] Erik: Really? [1:02:09 – 1:02:37] Adam: probably weigh nothing you can just hold it in one hand for like a couple miles and then switch to the other hand they don’t literally weigh nothing though but they do weigh nothing compared to you can even kind of just like lean it on the one shoulder and then lean it on there’s a bunch of different ways you could carry them i think it would be easy maybe if it was one of those ones that’s like partially inflatable so you can kind of pack it down a little bit more oh i hadn’t even thought of that maybe that’s what happened yeah maybe because yeah you wouldn’t need it doesn’t seem fast though [1:02:37 – 1:02:40] Adam: Yeah, I’ve tried to paddle them fast and I’ve not been successful. [1:02:40 – 1:02:42] Adam: Maybe I need a longer one. [1:02:42 – 1:02:43] Adam: God forbid. [1:02:44 – 1:02:45] Erik: What do you do in a headwind? [1:02:46 – 1:02:53] Adam: Well, you’re going from west-east on that route, so I’m assuming they timed it for all west wind or something and just sort of surfed their way there. [1:02:53 – 1:02:53] Adam: Yeah. [1:02:54 – 1:02:55] Adam: So, I don’t know. [1:02:55 – 1:02:58] Adam: Well, congrats to whoever that was. [1:02:58 – 1:03:01] Adam: That one was, that post was like, oh, that’s kind of neat. [1:03:01 – 1:03:05] Adam: And then I read like five of the comments and I was like, oh, that’s why I don’t come on this subreddit anymore. [1:03:05 – 1:03:07] Adam: This is a bunch of assholes. [1:03:07 – 1:03:10] Adam: Immediately like, oh, you think you’re so cool? [1:03:13 – 1:03:29] Adam: and so on and so on just that kind of shit immediately you know it was like oh yeah that’s i forgot why i don’t comment anything on anywhere anymore well yeah i don’t follow that subreddit or any other subreddits or anything you know i’m actually interested in because people it’s just a bunch of assholes on the internet [1:03:29 – 1:03:51] Erik: right yeah i mean it’s like that on you the moment you like offer up anything it’s like that anywhere it’s yeah well not on tumble home cast for the most well no but you know what i mean it’s all gatekeeping bullshit yeah it’s like you’re not doing it the way i think it should be done yeah exactly but if you’re not constantly paddling on only one side you are wrong yeah and a loser [1:03:53 – 1:03:55] Adam: So those are the two things I screen grabbed today. [1:03:56 – 1:03:57] Adam: Pretty good. [1:03:58 – 1:04:02] Adam: And we did get to go up Mount Josephine, which brother looked into it. [1:04:03 – 1:04:09] Adam: And it didn’t, it was like, it’s a kind of a dumb story is how it got named Mount Josephine. [1:04:09 – 1:04:11] Erik: Wasn’t it just some girl of a settler? [1:04:11 – 1:04:13] Adam: From like Cleveland or something or Toledo. [1:04:13 – 1:04:15] Erik: No, it should definitely be named after… [1:04:15 – 1:04:21] Adam: Went up there with their friend and so they can never more named it after the girl who climbed up the hill. [1:04:21 – 1:04:23] Adam: Yeah, some missionary’s daughter. [1:04:23 – 1:04:25] Adam: Yeah, a white girl that climbed up the hill. [1:04:25 – 1:04:31] Erik: I’m sure it was climbed hundreds of times by other people who just had harder to pronounce names. [1:04:31 – 1:04:37] Adam: Yeah, so anyways, I want to know what it’s really called, and I did try and look around and do it, and I wasn’t able to really figure that out. [1:04:37 – 1:04:38] Erik: Oh, I could probably find out. [1:04:38 – 1:04:40] Erik: A guy that I work with lives up on the res. [1:04:40 – 1:04:51] Adam: Yeah, I have a few ideas, too, of where to ask around, but I am interested, and I’m going to keep looking, but if you can find out, we’ve got to call it the right thing from now on. [1:04:51 – 1:04:52] Erik: Sure, I agree. [1:04:52 – 1:04:53] Adam: The real name. [1:04:53 – 1:04:53] Adam: Yeah. [1:04:54 – 1:04:57] Adam: Because, yeah, it shouldn’t be called Mount Josephine, but whatever. [1:04:57 – 1:04:58] Adam: We’re so woke, Adam. [1:04:58 – 1:04:59] Adam: We’re just so woke. [1:04:59 – 1:05:00] Erik: I know everybody tunes in for our wokeness. [1:05:00 – 1:05:02] Adam: Yeah, that’s why they like us. [1:05:02 – 1:05:04] Adam: I don’t know. [1:05:04 – 1:05:05] Adam: It’s a sweet climb, though, and I believe… [1:05:06 – 1:05:10] Adam: I didn’t go back to listen to the Vista rankers, but I’m pretty sure I had it as my top Vista. [1:05:10 – 1:05:12] Erik: You were close to the top, I think. [1:05:12 – 1:05:15] Adam: Either top or my second favorite Vista in the whole area, so… [1:05:16 – 1:05:39] Adam: hadn’t been up there in a while and uh did you come up from sea level oh yeah sneaky highway 61 you gotta do the climb okay yeah this thing’s steep yeah it’s easy i was pretty i was huffing and puffing for sure but i had the baby on me on the pack and then uh natalie and brother came with and uh yeah yikes i was i’m not in very good shape right now you still have some color up there [1:05:40 – 1:05:44] Adam: A little bit of yellows, but everything’s pretty much dropped. [1:05:44 – 1:05:46] Adam: So there’s still a lot of people there. [1:05:46 – 1:05:50] Adam: It was really a nice day and pretty good views of Isle Royale. [1:05:50 – 1:05:51] Adam: Oh, yeah, I bet. [1:05:52 – 1:05:53] Adam: And brother’s like looking out. [1:05:53 – 1:05:54] Adam: He’s like, what is that? [1:05:54 – 1:05:55] Adam: Is that a boat? [1:05:55 – 1:05:57] Adam: And we’re both kind of looking. [1:05:57 – 1:06:02] Adam: And then we got our phones and we had Canadian signal so we could pull up like the map and kind of spin it and like line it up. [1:06:03 – 1:06:03] Adam: Boat tracker? [1:06:04 – 1:06:31] Adam: uh yeah it was not a boat though it was the rock of ages lighthouse oh yeah that’s right that thing is so crazy like wow that’s what that is it’s on that spooky rock bus and armor seabird so that was kind of cool yeah and we did see a bunch of other people like the parking lot which isn’t even marked you know and yeah it was full and there’s people parked on the road it’s like jesus there’s gonna be a lot of people out here but it was a beautiful friday afternoon so [1:06:32 – 1:06:54] Adam: mea weekend baby yeah one last taste of big families kids so many kids they’re everywhere um but yeah hopefully after this weekend it should die down in town finally and i can try a new recipe maybe i’m pretty exciting yeah no i think maybe you should just make a thousand more sandwiches sandwich boy get back in the sandwich mine [1:06:55 – 1:07:01] Erik: Yeah, you get back in your sandwich mine and all those kids can get back into their academic factories down in the cities. [1:07:01 – 1:07:02] Erik: Leave us alone for a little bit. [1:07:03 – 1:07:06] Adam: There’s this thing that… Papa needs a break. [1:07:06 – 1:07:09] Adam: Leave a little peace and quiet around here, Eric. [1:07:09 – 1:07:15] Erik: Yeah, no, and I think we should try and get this started in Grand Marais. [1:07:16 – 1:07:20] Erik: If you don’t remember, I was on a canoe trip with some friends from Wisconsin and… [1:07:21 – 1:07:27] Erik: And they told me about this town in their vicinity that is heavily dependent on tourism. [1:07:27 – 1:07:28] Adam: Yeah. [1:07:28 – 1:07:32] Erik: And they’re happy for the tourists, but they’re also very happy when they leave. [1:07:32 – 1:07:35] Erik: And they actually have a specific day, which is in the fall. [1:07:35 – 1:07:36] Erik: It’s called a wave party. [1:07:37 – 1:07:43] Erik: And they all sit at the end of town and they get out their chairs and they wave at all of the tourists leaving town. [1:07:43 – 1:07:44] Adam: Well, that’s… [1:07:44 – 1:07:45] Adam: It’s like a reverse parade. [1:07:45 – 1:07:47] Erik: We could do that tomorrow. [1:07:47 – 1:07:48] Adam: We could do it. [1:07:48 – 1:07:50] Erik: Tomorrow would be the Sunday of MEA weekend. [1:07:50 – 1:07:52] Adam: Tomorrow would be the day for the wave party. [1:07:52 – 1:07:52] Erik: Yes. [1:07:53 – 1:07:55] Erik: And just wave to everybody going back down to the cities. [1:07:55 – 1:07:57] Adam: We could listen to the Packers starting at noon. [1:07:57 – 1:07:58] Adam: Yeah. [1:07:58 – 1:08:02] Adam: You know, wave all five fingers at them. [1:08:02 – 1:08:04] Erik: All five or just a couple. [1:08:05 – 1:08:31] Adam: nah no come back next year or at least give us a month to catch our breath sorry there’s nothing to do up here right now go home yeah no there really isn’t unless you come and show us your scummers gloves yeah just give us until thanksgiving that’s right you know that’s really that or i guess pride deer hunting starts in two weeks or something there’s no deer up here i’ve seen a couple but you know there’s not really any deer up here [1:08:32 – 1:08:34] Erik: Well, next year we’ll get the wave party going. [1:08:34 – 1:08:34] Erik: It’s probably too late. [1:08:35 – 1:08:35] Adam: Short notice. [1:08:35 – 1:08:37] Adam: Seems a little mean, but… [1:08:37 – 1:08:39] Erik: I’ve given you an hour and seven minutes to plan. [1:08:39 – 1:08:41] Adam: As long as they’re friendly about it, that’s pretty good. [1:08:41 – 1:08:41] Adam: Well, right. [1:08:41 – 1:08:42] Adam: Yeah, no, they’re not. [1:08:42 – 1:08:43] Adam: Where would you set up the wave party? [1:08:44 – 1:08:51] Adam: Like right at WTIP or… Maybe up by the cemetery is probably the biggest… Up by the cemetery. [1:08:51 – 1:08:51] Erik: Yeah. [1:08:52 – 1:08:55] Adam: You know, they relocated that cemetery up to phase five. [1:08:55 – 1:08:55] Adam: Oh, God. [1:08:56 – 1:08:59] Adam: And, you know, it used to be downtown. [1:09:02 – 1:09:25] Erik: you only move the headstones did they even do that yeah they did they moved them they used to be right in the parking lot of the co-op and that’s why it floods every time i love this any semblance of logic that the movie had up to that point just went out the window and they said screw it coffins are gonna start shooting out of the ground with dead bodies in them no less [1:09:27 – 1:09:29] Adam: Those are real bones, too. [1:09:29 – 1:09:30] Adam: Real bones. [1:09:30 – 1:09:32] Adam: I thought maybe it cursed the whole movie, actually. [1:09:33 – 1:09:34] Adam: More on that later. [1:09:34 – 1:09:35] Erik: More on that in just a second. [1:09:36 – 1:09:36] Adam: This evening. [1:09:36 – 1:09:37] Adam: Yeah. [1:09:37 – 1:09:39] Adam: Yeah, well, I want to talk about Poltergeist. [1:09:39 – 1:09:42] Erik: Yeah, I think we’re pretty much just wanting to talk about Poltergeist now. [1:09:43 – 1:09:49] Adam: So we’re going to end this episode and then start up the next episode of Tumble Home Cinema Classics coming to you live from the shed. [1:09:49 – 1:09:49] Adam: Tune in. [1:09:49 – 1:09:59] Adam: Thank you to all our Patreons who may or may not enjoy the Tumble Home Cinema Classics, but they do enjoy supporting this show or endeavor. [1:10:00 – 1:10:02] Adam: Well, they’re getting their money’s worth this month, baby. [1:10:02 – 1:10:04] Adam: We’re doing a good job for them now. [1:10:04 – 1:10:05] Adam: We got a little bit more time. [1:10:05 – 1:10:08] Adam: Just think next month we’re going to have so much more time. [1:10:09 – 1:10:10] Erik: What are we going to talk about? [1:10:10 – 1:10:31] Adam: we’re starting a spinoff podcast probably about something else just do we’ll just do the alone idea on the tumble home just for tumble yeah just for the patreons yeah um that’s doesn’t sound half bad actually there you go still gotta come up with a catchy title for that together alone together alone i think that already is something that might be a taylor swift album probably [1:10:31 – 1:10:38] Adam: Anyhow, for Tumble Home, a Border Waters podcast, this has been a real delight. [1:10:39 – 1:10:40] Adam: My name is Adam. [1:10:40 – 1:10:45] Adam: I, of course, joined in the Tumble Shed tonight by Arrow, who is ghost hunting. [1:10:46 – 1:10:46] Adam: Apparently. [1:10:46 – 1:10:47] Adam: Back there. [1:10:47 – 1:10:55] Adam: And my man, Eric, right here, looking dapper in his sweater with his nice skin. [1:10:55 – 1:11:00] Adam: This is Radiant over here at the sport desk. [1:11:01 – 1:11:01] Erik: Yeah. [1:11:01 – 1:11:03] Adam: Thank you for the seven questions. [1:11:04 – 1:11:05] Adam: Welcome to the subreddit. [1:11:06 – 1:11:07] Adam: Welcome, welcome, welcome. [1:11:07 – 1:11:08] Adam: That was fun. [1:11:09 – 1:11:09] Adam: And good night. [1:11:09 – 1:11:10] Adam: All right, well, yeah. [1:11:10 – 1:11:11] Adam: Enjoy everything. [1:11:11 – 1:11:12] Adam: Good night. [1:11:12 – 1:11:15] Adam: Whose bike is that? [1:11:16 – 1:11:17] Adam: No, it’s my new bike. [1:11:17 – 1:11:18] Adam: All right. [1:11:19 – 1:11:21] Erik: It doesn’t look that new, but it’s new to you. [1:11:21 – 1:11:22] Erik: Could use a new seat, maybe. [1:11:22 – 1:11:23] Erik: Okay. [1:11:23 – 1:11:24] Adam: Yeah. [1:11:24 – 1:11:30] Adam: Flat tires, but, you know, probably a little tiny for me, but it’s a nice track. [1:11:31 – 1:11:31] UNKNOWN: you

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