We’re taking it easy this week as we meander our way up the expansive and beautiful Lac La Croix, exploring pictographs, expansive sand beaches and fish stake narrows. Many conversations are had around the morning camp fire at one of the greatest campsites we’ve ever stayed at just south of Warrior Hill.
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[0:00:00 – 0:00:03] Erik: Eric and Adam here from Dumble Home.
[0:00:05 – 0:00:08] Erik: We typically tread in very comfortable waters.
[0:00:10 – 0:00:38] Erik: in our podcast up to this point and we’re going to get into some waters that I don’t think are ones that we have really discussed at all and are probably going to be somewhat uncomfortable but we have both been thinking about this essentially since we came off the water from our five day trip a little over a week ago now June 2nd we got off the water and the world’s burning yeah
[0:00:39 – 0:00:41] Adam: Um, the weather radio didn’t tell us about that.
[0:00:41 – 0:00:45] Adam: No, no, there was a little bit of the, uh, a sense.
[0:00:46 – 0:00:46] Adam: Yeah.
[0:00:47 – 0:00:49] Adam: And it all started before we left though.
[0:00:49 – 0:00:49] Erik: Yeah.
[0:00:49 – 0:00:51] Erik: For the most part, it was all kind of building.
[0:00:51 – 0:00:59] Erik: And then we got off the water and, um, overheard conversations in our travels home that kind of led us to believe.
[0:00:59 – 0:00:59] Erik: And
[0:01:01 – 0:01:23] Erik: Um, yeah, that, um, there was some things happening in the world and we’re going to, we’re going to talk about that for just a minute here because, um, we feel that it is a highly important whether or not we’re talking about the boundary waters to, to talk about, um,
[0:01:24 – 0:01:28] Adam: Yeah, I mean, not a lot of people have the ability to just say, eh, I’m going to go on a trip right now.
[0:01:29 – 0:01:29] Adam: Ignore this.
[0:01:30 – 0:01:30] Erik: Yeah.
[0:01:30 – 0:01:33] Adam: Which is what we did, and then we got back, and it’s like, ugh.
[0:01:33 – 0:01:33] Erik: Yeah.
[0:01:35 – 0:01:40] Adam: You know, I mean, it’s just, and so then the episode comes out and you’re like, well, we can’t just say nothing.
[0:01:40 – 0:01:41] Erik: Right.
[0:01:41 – 0:01:53] Adam: It’s at this point we need to, you know, to remain silent about the violence against black people is to be complicit in that violence.
[0:01:53 – 0:01:54] Adam: You can’t just say nothing.
[0:01:55 – 0:01:55] Erik: Yeah.
[0:01:55 – 0:01:55] Erik: Yeah.
[0:01:55 – 0:01:56] Erik: And we’re to that point.
[0:01:56 – 0:02:16] Erik: And like I kind of started the, this cold open with the struggle up to this point for us has been knowing that this episode, this, this podcast brings a form of an escape to people, um,
[0:02:16 – 0:02:27] Erik: for whatever they’re going through, uh, to get you through your commute, to help you get over, you know, the mundaneness of just painting the house, just the general entertainment of it.
[0:02:27 – 0:02:34] Erik: You know, it takes you away and we, and we, uh, we love and we appreciate the feedback that that is something that this show does for you.
[0:02:35 – 0:02:42] Erik: Um, and it was right away a bit of a struggle and a challenge to come to terms with having this conversation.
[0:02:42 – 0:02:42] Erik: Um,
[0:02:44 – 0:02:51] Erik: On a podcast that is essentially for a relief from how hard and real the world can be.
[0:02:52 – 0:02:57] Adam: Yeah, and it’s just like this episode coming up is just literally us like goofing around in the park.
[0:02:58 – 0:02:58] Adam: Yeah.
[0:02:59 – 0:03:00] Adam: Yeah.
[0:03:00 – 0:03:01] Adam: Generally just living it up.
[0:03:01 – 0:03:02] Adam: Right.
[0:03:02 – 0:03:02] Adam: And…
[0:03:03 – 0:03:04] Adam: So I don’t know.
[0:03:04 – 0:03:06] Adam: It’s going to be a weird juxtaposition.
[0:03:06 – 0:03:07] Erik: It’s going to be a hard turn.
[0:03:07 – 0:03:20] Erik: But I think we’ve come to the point that we’re living in the world that we are living in now because I think too many people have taken the option to escape and look the other way, bury their head in the sand.
[0:03:22 – 0:03:29] Erik: And I don’t want to be compliant in that option anymore for people.
[0:03:29 – 0:03:30] Erik: Yeah.
[0:03:31 – 0:03:39] Erik: And there’s still going to be time for you to escape through our show and this show as well as future shows.
[0:03:39 – 0:03:58] Erik: But right now, we just want to come out and be as abundantly clear that the murder of George Floyd on video was probably one of the most disgusting, infuriating,
[0:04:00 – 0:04:05] Erik: like mind and thought provoking and opening things I’ve ever seen in my life.
[0:04:06 – 0:04:16] Erik: And the fact that it was, uh, committed by a Minneapolis police, the community that I grew up in, uh, it was not anything that I ever thought was possible.
[0:04:16 – 0:04:16] Erik: And yeah,
[0:04:17 – 0:04:22] Erik: I mean, I know that there’s been instances in the past, and I don’t know what it was about this one.
[0:04:23 – 0:04:24] Erik: It was just so clear-cut.
[0:04:25 – 0:04:26] Erik: It’s not even political.
[0:04:26 – 0:04:28] Erik: It’s just a human thing.
[0:04:29 – 0:04:45] Erik: And so we are going to do our best to try to support efforts that are, because of this and because of a long string of events like this, try to bring…
[0:04:47 – 0:04:55] Erik: people of color, people that are disadvantaged onto the same page as me and Adam.
[0:04:57 – 0:05:07] Erik: And what we’re doing in hopes, at least for a start, is because of the nature of the world these days, you can never tell.
[0:05:08 – 0:05:11] Erik: You think you’re putting money towards something that’s worthwhile.
[0:05:11 – 0:05:13] Erik: You think you’re signing up for a petition that’s worthwhile.
[0:05:14 – 0:05:19] Erik: And it turns out, oh, 95% of that is just going to administrative costs.
[0:05:19 – 0:05:20] Erik: Yeah.
[0:05:21 – 0:05:33] Erik: So we are at least to start aligning ourselves and supporting peaceful protests for the Black Lives Matter movement.
[0:05:34 – 0:05:42] Erik: We’ll be donating towards that and then working to continue efforts as it relates to the Boundary Waters specifically.
[0:05:42 – 0:05:49] Erik: And this is an area that we’re not 100% sure where to move, but we’d love to try to do something.
[0:05:49 – 0:05:49] Adam: Right.
[0:05:49 – 0:05:53] Adam: I mean, there’s a lot of parts of the Boundary Waters that are just not operational right now.
[0:05:53 – 0:05:54] Adam: Yeah.
[0:05:54 – 0:05:58] Adam: And perhaps some ways that you could get kids up here that wouldn’t normally have the ability to…
[0:05:59 – 0:06:02] Adam: experience the boundary waters, like those programs are all shut down right now.
[0:06:02 – 0:06:03] Erik: Right.
[0:06:03 – 0:06:05] Adam: Which was the one idea we did have.
[0:06:05 – 0:06:07] Adam: Um, but, uh, yeah.
[0:06:07 – 0:06:08] Erik: And that’s tumble home.
[0:06:08 – 0:06:11] Erik: And that is also, um, that’s also a clear water.
[0:06:11 – 0:06:19] Erik: And I would love to maybe see if there’s listeners out there who are from the twin cities or, or, or cities just in general, who maybe have, uh,
[0:06:21 – 0:06:31] Erik: Recommendations on local programs that could use a connection to the Boundary Waters, to the Northwoods.
[0:06:33 – 0:06:43] Erik: Clearwater is welcoming of all people and would love to be involved in some of those programs if possible.
[0:06:43 – 0:06:45] Erik: I know there are a lot of them out there.
[0:06:46 – 0:06:59] Erik: Um, it’s just, it’s a, an ocean of potential that you kind of start doing some research in and then you like scrolling through the pictures and it’s just like a bunch of like white kids from the suburbs.
[0:06:59 – 0:07:02] Erik: And you’re like, well, I don’t know what this is all about then.
[0:07:02 – 0:07:06] Erik: And then you’re like, well, maybe the YMCA, like that could be a decent program.
[0:07:06 – 0:07:09] Erik: And then you kind of look into that and you’re like, well, I don’t know, like it’s so broad.
[0:07:10 – 0:07:14] Erik: And then again, they’re not really running those right now, but, um,
[0:07:15 – 0:07:24] Erik: I think we’re going to start by supporting the Black Lives Matter movement, which is…
[0:07:25 – 0:07:29] Erik: If you’re not willing to support them as much as we are, we understand.
[0:07:29 – 0:07:33] Erik: But at the very least, head over to their website.
[0:07:33 – 0:07:35] Erik: They’ve got petitions…
[0:07:35 – 0:07:40] Erik: They’ve got newsletters that can keep you up to date in things that they’re working towards.
[0:07:40 – 0:08:00] Erik: It seems like a pretty well coordinated, especially in the last few weeks, effort that has the best intentions because, you know, obviously for the cities, but from our perspective, it’s one of those things that you don’t really ever think of it.
[0:08:00 – 0:08:04] Erik: And that’s, you know, that’s also, again, part of the problem is we just…
[0:08:05 – 0:08:17] Erik: Find ourselves up in the Northwoods, a couple of white boys, never really had a truly hard day in our lives, getting to drop what we’re doing and go spend five days in the woods.
[0:08:17 – 0:08:19] Erik: That is an extreme privilege.
[0:08:20 – 0:08:21] Erik: We have been very privileged.
[0:08:21 – 0:08:26] Erik: And that is something that should be available to everyone.
[0:08:26 – 0:08:30] Erik: The Boundary Waters is for everyone, but it’s not at the end of the day.
[0:08:30 – 0:08:44] Erik: If you’re worried about getting killed in the streets of your community, you’re not thinking about planning for a Boundary Waters trip.
[0:08:44 – 0:08:47] Erik: If you’re struggling to just get by because of
[0:08:48 – 0:09:04] Erik: the systemic racism and the divestment of community funds that are being put towards tanks and, um, drones militarized police instead of mental health, um, housing, uh,
[0:09:06 – 0:09:14] Erik: and just general infrastructure to prop up your community, the last thing you’re going to think of is, hey, let’s go take a vacation.
[0:09:15 – 0:09:19] Erik: And then even if you do find yourself as a person of color,
[0:09:20 – 0:09:34] Erik: In the Northwoods, there’s so many sad stories I’ve heard over the last few weeks of people that were calling into NPR and on some of these podcasts about, yeah, we felt like we essentially had targets on our backs the whole time.
[0:09:35 – 0:09:36] Erik: We were north of Duluth.
[0:09:36 – 0:09:40] Erik: We want to go and experience these places and we want to be able to vacation.
[0:09:41 – 0:09:46] Erik: To not be able to vacation in any way that you see fit is…
[0:09:47 – 0:09:58] Erik: Kind of a travesty as a state of Minnesota, which is so tourist-based, and then obviously as a country, it’s pretty terrible as well.
[0:09:58 – 0:10:01] Erik: So, yeah, I don’t know.
[0:10:02 – 0:10:03] Adam: That’s the way it is, though, up here, you know?
[0:10:03 – 0:10:07] Adam: It’s like a wonderful place to live, but no diversity.
[0:10:07 – 0:10:08] Adam: Mm-hmm.
[0:10:09 – 0:10:09] Erik: Right.
[0:10:09 – 0:10:16] Erik: And that’s, I mean, that’s super hard for me and you to be able to even begin to…
[0:10:20 – 0:10:22] Erik: I mean, you can’t sympathize.
[0:10:23 – 0:10:27] Erik: You can kind of maybe begin to empathize a little bit, but it’s not…
[0:10:27 – 0:10:41] Erik: I mean, it’s one of those things that at the end of the day for me, I want everybody to be able to experience the same pleasures and joys and wonders that the…
[0:10:42 – 0:10:45] Erik: than any wild place, but especially the Boundary Waters, has to offer.
[0:10:45 – 0:11:02] Erik: And, you know, you really just sit down and think about it, and it’s like, yeah, how many times do you see anything but large packs of white people paddling down lakes in the Boundary Waters and driving up the Gunflint Trail in their massive SUVs and going to resorts and stuff?
[0:11:02 – 0:11:07] Erik: That’s just such a level of privilege that has just gone on for so long.
[0:11:07 – 0:11:09] Erik: It’s just assumed that…
[0:11:11 – 0:11:16] Erik: Black people don’t like to go camping or go into wild places like that.
[0:11:17 – 0:11:21] Erik: But it’s probably more that they just don’t, they’re not given the opportunity.
[0:11:22 – 0:11:27] Erik: So without talking in circles too much more, I will just say that.
[0:11:27 – 0:11:38] Erik: Clearwater and Tumble Home is not just going to write a check and then call it a day, wash our hands of it because those days are over.
[0:11:38 – 0:11:40] Erik: You can’t just be not racist anymore.
[0:11:40 – 0:11:46] Erik: You have to be anti-racist and work towards equality more than just a dollar sign.
[0:11:47 – 0:11:54] Erik: And what that looks like exactly, I cannot tell you, but we’re going to explore as many options in terms of what that looks like.
[0:11:55 – 0:12:03] Erik: Um, and as listeners of the show, I don’t think there are too many of you at this point that don’t agree with what we’re saying.
[0:12:04 – 0:12:05] Erik: Um, I would hope not.
[0:12:06 – 0:12:16] Erik: And if you don’t, you know, in the past, we’ve been pretty inflammatory on some of the, uh, like leave no trace stuff where we’ll just be like unsubscribe.
[0:12:17 – 0:12:18] Erik: But I don’t…
[0:12:19 – 0:12:28] Erik: I mean, I think in this instance, if there are people out there that truly disagree with anything that we’ve said up to this point, I would urge you to actually send us an email.
[0:12:29 – 0:12:33] Erik: Let’s have a conversation about maybe why we’re off on this.
[0:12:33 – 0:12:34] Erik: I don’t think we are.
[0:12:34 – 0:12:39] Erik: I think this is a pretty easy thing to be right on, at least to start.
[0:12:41 – 0:12:43] Erik: So, with that in mind…
[0:12:44 – 0:12:45] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:12:45 – 0:12:51] Erik: I think there are things that we could, you know, we’re not going to ask you to do anything that you don’t feel comfortable with.
[0:12:51 – 0:12:55] Erik: But there’s some simple things that I think you could do and that I’m going to try to do.
[0:12:55 – 0:12:59] Erik: And I feel like Adam is probably going to try to do as well.
[0:13:00 – 0:13:00] Erik: You can speak up.
[0:13:02 – 0:13:06] Adam: If you hear something, speak up.
[0:13:06 – 0:13:08] Adam: And, you know, you can donate.
[0:13:09 – 0:13:11] Adam: And then the other thing you can do is you can vote.
[0:13:12 – 0:13:19] Adam: So get your mail-in ballots, request them now, and let’s take this thing down.
[0:13:21 – 0:13:22] Erik: Yeah.
[0:13:22 – 0:13:25] Adam: Let’s dismantle the white supremacy.
[0:13:26 – 0:13:28] Erik: And it is there.
[0:13:29 – 0:13:33] Erik: Before we get to, again, it is going to be a… Let’s vote the fascists out.
[0:13:33 – 0:13:33] Erik: Yeah.
[0:13:34 – 0:13:35] Erik: Yeah, let’s do it.
[0:13:35 – 0:13:35] Erik: I mean…
[0:13:37 – 0:13:38] Adam: It’s pretty much that simple.
[0:13:38 – 0:13:39] Adam: Yeah.
[0:13:39 – 0:13:40] Adam: That’s a good first step, at least.
[0:13:41 – 0:13:47] Adam: Yeah, and like don’t… Let’s get like 90% voter turnout.
[0:13:47 – 0:13:54] Erik: Yeah, Minnesota is pretty good already, but it’s still not everybody.
[0:13:55 – 0:14:00] Erik: And yeah, people need to be held accountable from the top to the bottom.
[0:14:02 – 0:14:05] Erik: From local elected officials to…
[0:14:08 – 0:14:10] Erik: senators to presidents to your friends.
[0:14:11 – 0:14:12] Erik: Everybody needs to be held accountable.
[0:14:12 – 0:14:35] Erik: You know, there is a time and a place for some jokes and some funny stereotypes, which are still at the end of the day, you know, probably neither here nor there, but it’s the big stuff that, you know, and you know, you also have to give some people that maybe aren’t willing to, or haven’t in the past, an opportunity to maybe change their opinions on things.
[0:14:36 – 0:14:41] Erik: And I know for me, just personally, it’s always been so easy to just say, well, it doesn’t affect me.
[0:14:42 – 0:14:44] Erik: I’m up here in my nice little Northwoods bubble.
[0:14:45 – 0:14:45] Adam: Got good.
[0:14:46 – 0:14:48] Erik: Yeah, why would I want to stick my neck out?
[0:14:48 – 0:14:57] Erik: Why would I want to put my feet on the ground and actually stand up for what is essentially simple human rights?
[0:14:58 – 0:15:08] Erik: And I think that those days for myself are behind me, and I look forward to working as hard as possible on improving myself and trying to lift up others as well.
[0:15:08 – 0:15:10] Erik: And with this small platform that we have,
[0:15:11 – 0:15:16] Erik: I feel like it would have been a great disservice to not at least let you know where we’re coming from.
[0:15:18 – 0:15:18] Adam: Yeah.
[0:15:20 – 0:15:22] Adam: Love is more powerful than hatred, Eric.
[0:15:22 – 0:15:23] Adam: I agree.
[0:15:24 – 0:15:25] Erik: Do you have anything else to say?
[0:15:25 – 0:15:29] Erik: Otherwise you want to finish with just a note from an Instagram post.
[0:15:30 – 0:15:31] Adam: No, I don’t know.
[0:15:31 – 0:15:40] Adam: I, you know, I just would say the, the episode coming up is quite silly and, uh, you know, just keep that in mind.
[0:15:40 – 0:15:42] Adam: We didn’t really know what was happening at the time.
[0:15:42 – 0:15:43] Adam: Yeah.
[0:15:43 – 0:15:46] Adam: This is, this was two weeks ago and you know, I just feels weird to be silly.
[0:15:47 – 0:15:48] Erik: it does feel a little weird to be silly now.
[0:15:49 – 0:15:53] Erik: And this is the middle episode when we truly were at our, our weirdest.
[0:15:53 – 0:15:57] Erik: We talk about, uh, the beaks of geese falling off and what that would be like.
[0:15:58 – 0:16:02] Erik: And it’s not to say that there isn’t still time to have fun and be fun.
[0:16:03 – 0:16:09] Erik: Um, but you know, it’s like the mining thing, obviously even more important than that.
[0:16:09 – 0:16:15] Erik: Um, don’t stop paying attention and we’re not going to, and we probably, to be honest with you, won’t let you, uh,
[0:16:16 – 0:16:17] Erik: um, stop paying attention.
[0:16:17 – 0:16:20] Erik: And we have one more thing to say.
[0:16:20 – 0:16:20] Adam: Go ahead.
[0:16:21 – 0:16:26] Adam: Looting is having billionaires getting richer during a pandemic.
[0:16:28 – 0:16:31] Adam: And while, while this is all going on.
[0:16:32 – 0:16:32] Erik: Yeah.
[0:16:33 – 0:16:34] Adam: That’s looting is billionaires.
[0:16:34 – 0:16:35] Adam: I’ve had it.
[0:16:36 – 0:16:37] Adam: Yeah.
[0:16:37 – 0:16:38] Adam: Am I on the list yet?
[0:16:38 – 0:16:40] Erik: Well, better be.
[0:16:40 – 0:16:40] Erik: Maybe.
[0:16:41 – 0:16:41] Erik: Um,
[0:16:43 – 0:16:43] Erik: Yeah.
[0:16:44 – 0:16:50] Adam: So this is… People are being tear gassed and brutalized by the police who are supposed to protect them.
[0:16:50 – 0:16:50] Adam: Yeah.
[0:16:50 – 0:16:52] Adam: And billionaires are getting richer.
[0:16:52 – 0:16:54] Adam: And then they’re saying, oh, these people are looting.
[0:16:56 – 0:16:56] Erik: Yeah.
[0:16:56 – 0:16:57] Erik: It’s doublespeak.
[0:16:58 – 0:17:00] Erik: And it’s wrong.
[0:17:00 – 0:17:03] Erik: And anybody with half a brain can see it for what it is.
[0:17:04 – 0:17:09] Erik: The problem is actually changing it and making…
[0:17:10 – 0:17:19] Erik: making those changes to the money that gets spent on a, a police force versus the money that gets put into a community.
[0:17:20 – 0:17:36] Erik: Um, because at the end of the day, and we, again, there you can go and do extensive research on a number of people who are much more knowledgeable and experts in some of these areas on how money gets spent in the community, especially urban communities.
[0:17:37 – 0:17:39] Erik: Um, and what police are called upon to do, um,
[0:17:41 – 0:17:45] Erik: which is, for the most part… More than they’re trained to handle.
[0:17:45 – 0:17:55] Erik: More than they’re trained to handle, and you could put that money towards people who can actually handle those situations, specifically mental health, drug and alcohol abuse.
[0:17:57 – 0:18:03] Erik: And if there is no hope in your community, then, yeah, those are the things you’re going to turn to.
[0:18:04 – 0:18:10] Adam: Yeah, I mean, the relationship between law enforcement and the people they are supposed to serve has long been broken.
[0:18:10 – 0:18:11] Erik: It’s long been broken.
[0:18:11 – 0:18:17] Adam: So you can’t just keep throwing more money at it and like, hey, here’s some fancy new military-grade equipment.
[0:18:18 – 0:18:22] Adam: Meanwhile, the nurses and doctors in our hospitals don’t have the proper PPE.
[0:18:23 – 0:18:27] Adam: Teachers don’t have, they don’t make jack for money.
[0:18:27 – 0:18:29] Adam: It’s all about where we’re putting our priorities.
[0:18:29 – 0:18:33] Adam: And hopefully this is a wake-up call and we change that.
[0:18:34 – 0:18:34] Erik: I hope so.
[0:18:34 – 0:18:47] Erik: You know, it has been one of those things where, yeah, you look back how many years of these things happening and it’s been pretty incremental if that even change.
[0:18:48 – 0:18:59] Erik: And yeah, this is one of those ones that I don’t want it to be just a podcast rant or a Twitter rant that six months later goes by and nothing changes.
[0:18:59 – 0:19:09] Erik: It’s really easy for the best intended empathy to simply turn into apathy.
[0:19:11 – 0:19:26] Erik: And yeah, and I stand by the hashtag defund the police insofar as move some of those funds to other aspects of the community, not completely get rid of the police, but
[0:19:26 – 0:19:27] Adam: Seems like they got plenty.
[0:19:27 – 0:19:29] Adam: They’re all driving brand new trucks.
[0:19:29 – 0:19:29] Adam: Yeah.
[0:19:31 – 0:19:35] Adam: Can we just totally defund the Border Patrol, though, and use all that money towards a better purpose?
[0:19:36 – 0:19:36] Adam: Yeah.
[0:19:36 – 0:19:38] Adam: Because I don’t see them doing anything.
[0:19:40 – 0:19:43] Adam: I mean, that money could be better spent elsewhere, too.
[0:19:44 – 0:19:44] Adam: So how about that?
[0:19:45 – 0:19:46] Erik: How about that?
[0:19:47 – 0:19:51] Erik: Let’s work on a lot of these questions and think about…
[0:19:52 – 0:19:55] Erik: what I guess we’ve had to say, but also think more over than us.
[0:19:55 – 0:19:58] Erik: Honestly, this is a little…
[0:19:59 – 0:20:05] Erik: I would gather mostly white community that’s listening to this podcast.
[0:20:05 – 0:20:07] Erik: I’m going to finish with…
[0:20:08 – 0:20:16] Erik: There was a series of Instagram posts that were kind of put out over the last couple of weeks on just ways that you can help and ways that you can maybe…
[0:20:17 – 0:20:24] Erik: Uh, rethink the situation and we’re going to end here because it’s kind of what I’m going to use going forward.
[0:20:25 – 0:20:31] Erik: And, uh, this is, uh, from at Giselle Buchanan on Instagram.
[0:20:33 – 0:20:35] Erik: Um, and it’s destroying the myth.
[0:20:36 – 0:20:39] Erik: Are you insulated in the comfortable shield of whiteness?
[0:20:40 – 0:20:46] Erik: Do you have the ability to go days without interacting with other people’s true lives, thoughts, and experiences?
[0:20:47 – 0:20:49] Erik: Examine how this is an extension of your privilege.
[0:20:50 – 0:20:59] Erik: A proliferation of white imperialist delusion which asserts whiteness as central and all other lives and experiences as peripheral.
[0:21:00 – 0:21:02] Erik: We are living in many realities.
[0:21:04 – 0:21:08] Erik: It is time to get on one accord so that we can transform.
[0:21:09 – 0:21:13] Erik: Are you still under the spell of patriotism and propaganda?
[0:21:14 – 0:21:15] Erik: How can you break it?
[0:22:04 – 0:22:06] Adam: Warriors, mount up.
[0:22:07 – 0:22:10] Adam: It was a clear black night, a clear white moon.
[0:22:11 – 0:22:14] Adam: Eric D. was on the bucket of blood, trying to consume.
[0:22:15 – 0:22:22] Adam: Is that it?
[0:22:23 – 0:22:24] Adam: Yeah, that’s it.
[0:22:24 – 0:22:25] Adam: That’s the beginning.
[0:22:26 – 0:22:32] Erik: Send us tumblehomecasts at gmail.com if you know what lyric comes next after the…
[0:22:34 – 0:22:34] Erik: Warriors.
[0:22:35 – 0:22:39] Erik: Was that, uh… Regulators!
[0:22:40 – 0:22:43] Erik: Yeah, I think you pretty much nailed the first couple of lines there.
[0:22:44 – 0:22:46] Erik: Yeah, this is Tumble Home!
[0:22:46 – 0:22:47] Erik: Episode 0-1.
[0:22:49 – 0:22:50] Erik: 1-0-2.
[0:22:50 – 0:22:51] Erik: Holy crap, it’s been 100.
[0:22:51 – 0:22:55] Erik: It’s been ingrained in my psyche.
[0:22:55 – 0:22:58] Erik: My uvula doesn’t know how to say anything but zero.
[0:22:58 – 0:22:59] Adam: And then the episode.
[0:22:59 – 0:23:00] Adam: But it is 1-0-2.
[0:23:00 – 0:23:02] Adam: Hola, amigo.
[0:23:02 – 0:23:03] Adam: Hola, hola.
[0:23:04 – 0:23:05] Erik: Hola, amigos.
[0:23:06 – 0:23:06] Erik: Amigos?
[0:23:07 – 0:23:08] Erik: Amigos.
[0:23:09 – 0:23:10] Erik: Welcome to…
[0:23:11 – 0:23:12] Erik: Lack.
[0:23:13 – 0:23:13] Erik: Lack.
[0:23:14 – 0:23:15] Erik: LaCroix.
[0:23:16 – 0:23:16] Erik: LLC.
[0:23:17 – 0:23:18] Erik: LLC.
[0:23:18 – 0:23:18] Erik: The Lack.
[0:23:19 – 0:23:19] Erik: The Lack.
[0:23:19 – 0:23:20] Erik: The Big Lack.
[0:23:22 – 0:23:23] Erik: And we last left you.
[0:23:25 – 0:23:53] Erik: think you had pretty much presumed assumed and figured that we were on Lac La Croix and we are on Lac La Croix before we get into the beginning of this episode we should say we are sponsored as always by our fine friends on patreon hi there hope you’re enjoying the bloodhook content and uh whatever else we’re doing now I don’t know when this episode is going to come out but uh thank you very much time is an illusion
[0:23:54 – 0:23:55] Erik: Time is an illusion.
[0:23:56 – 0:24:13] Erik: We are also sponsored by Matt and a fine, fine contribution towards a 14-year-old bottle of Glenlivet, Glenlivet?
[0:24:15 – 0:24:16] Erik: Glenlivet.
[0:24:17 – 0:24:18] Erik: The T is not silent.
[0:24:18 – 0:24:19] Erik: It’s Glenlivet.
[0:24:19 – 0:24:22] Adam: All of it’s silent except for the V. It’s all hard.
[0:24:22 – 0:24:23] Adam: Glenlivet.
[0:24:24 – 0:24:28] Adam: I’ve never had the pleasure of trying a whiskey of this caliber.
[0:24:28 – 0:24:34] Adam: Yeah, it’s a cognac cask single malt scotch whiskey without an E.
[0:24:35 – 0:24:36] Adam: So if you…
[0:24:36 – 0:24:39] Adam: I’m feeling like a real Ron Swanson out here on Locker Croy today.
[0:24:40 – 0:24:40] Adam: Yeah, you should.
[0:24:41 – 0:24:42] Adam: You look like a real Ron Swanson.
[0:24:43 – 0:24:43] Adam: Thank you.
[0:24:43 – 0:24:44] Erik: Thank you.
[0:24:44 – 0:24:46] Erik: Well, you have anything else to say?
[0:24:46 – 0:24:49] Erik: You should do some talking while I pour this whiskey.
[0:24:49 – 0:24:55] Adam: All right, I’ll set the scene so we have ourselves a nice campsite on the lock.
[0:24:55 – 0:24:56] UNKNOWN: Nice.
[0:24:56 – 0:24:58] Adam: It’s primo.
[0:24:59 – 0:25:03] Adam: We got a view of the big hill, a couple islands.
[0:25:07 – 0:25:09] Adam: And just north of here, the Pictos.
[0:25:12 – 0:25:20] Adam: It’s been pretty quiet, you know, since we’ve pushed our way past Agnes and the swimming children of the Boulder River.
[0:25:20 – 0:25:22] Erik: They’re always there, the swimming children.
[0:25:22 – 0:25:23] Adam: They are.
[0:25:23 – 0:25:30] Adam: It’s like a, I don’t want to say it’s a fungal infestation, but it’s kind of like a natural phenomenon.
[0:25:31 – 0:25:31] Erik: Phenomenon?
[0:25:31 – 0:25:33] Adam: Yeah, exactly.
[0:25:33 – 0:25:34] Adam: So, thank you.
[0:25:36 – 0:25:37] Adam: This one goes out to you.
[0:25:38 – 0:25:38] Erik: Thanks, Matt.
[0:25:38 – 0:25:41] Erik: We’re cheersing out of plastic cups, and it came out of a plastic bottle.
[0:25:41 – 0:25:57] Erik: I know it’s a little sacrilegious to be pouring delicious and pure whiskey of this variety and sort into plastics, but we are in the park, and I didn’t think that the extra weight of a hydro flask was…
[0:25:58 – 0:26:04] Adam: The only thing that’s legal to bring in glass is your contacts and tartar sauce, actually.
[0:26:04 – 0:26:08] Erik: Yes, especially if it’s fine tartar sauce in an old pudding container.
[0:26:08 – 0:26:11] Adam: Unfortunately, you know, it’s not us.
[0:26:11 – 0:26:17] Adam: It’s the park service that won’t let us actually keep this fine whiskey in its own glass sarcophagus.
[0:26:17 – 0:26:21] Adam: But we’re about to enjoy it in our own bodily sarcophagus right now.
[0:26:21 – 0:26:22] Erik: Yeah, let’s have a little sip.
[0:26:29 – 0:26:31] Erik: Wow.
[0:26:31 – 0:26:31] Erik: Wow.
[0:26:32 – 0:26:34] Adam: That is smooth.
[0:26:34 – 0:26:39] Adam: That’s pretty much like a warrior hill in your mouth.
[0:26:40 – 0:26:43] Erik: Yeah, that’s exactly what I was thinking.
[0:26:43 – 0:26:43] Erik: Yeah.
[0:26:44 – 0:26:47] Adam: That’s like the inverse of a hill, but…
[0:26:48 – 0:26:50] Adam: But in your own person.
[0:26:50 – 0:26:50] Erik: Yeah.
[0:26:51 – 0:26:51] Erik: Wow.
[0:26:52 – 0:26:52] Erik: Yeah, that’s good.
[0:26:53 – 0:26:54] Erik: Thanks again, Matt.
[0:26:55 – 0:27:00] Erik: We put the contribution to your requested use.
[0:27:01 – 0:27:09] Erik: And it’s going to be a nice little campfire enjoyment at this point.
[0:27:10 – 0:27:17] Erik: So, we are on maybe one of the finest campsites ever.
[0:27:18 – 0:27:41] Adam: i have ever camped at well we gotta we gotta maybe pour one for sigurd you know sigurd’s i’m not gonna pour any of this on the ground oh i’m not saying that we just pour a little bit in a cup and then if he doesn’t drink it then later we’ll just drink it anyways yeah we brought it to that sorry i didn’t want to sidetrack this thing we are literally on a site that sigurd as soon as we got in here there it goes i think sigurd stayed here
[0:27:42 – 0:27:47] Erik: It just seems like one of those campsites that you saw in his canoe country movies that he used to make.
[0:27:47 – 0:27:47] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:27:48 – 0:27:49] Erik: So, yeah, we’re up on Lac La Croix.
[0:27:50 – 0:28:00] Erik: We are north of Tiger Bay, south and east of Never Fail Bay, directly south of, we are looking at it right now, Warrior Hill.
[0:28:01 – 0:28:03] Adam: How’s she going, bae?
[0:28:05 – 0:28:06] Adam: I’m waving to the Warriors over there.
[0:28:06 – 0:28:08] Adam: Thumbs up for you guys.
[0:28:08 – 0:28:09] Erik: Thumbs up to the Warriors.
[0:28:10 – 0:28:12] Adam: It’s all pretty good.
[0:28:12 – 0:28:14] Adam: We’re having fun over here, too.
[0:28:14 – 0:28:16] Adam: Thumbs up from us in Canada.
[0:28:17 – 0:28:19] Erik: Well, that was nice of them to say that back.
[0:28:19 – 0:28:21] Erik: Yeah, very nice of them.
[0:28:22 – 0:28:30] Erik: It remains to be seen whether we are going to get up the nerves to poach a run up Ninja Knob.
[0:28:30 – 0:28:31] Erik: Ninja Nabe.
[0:28:32 – 0:28:33] Adam: Yeah, not Warrior Hill.
[0:28:33 – 0:28:37] Adam: If we actually do go up Warrior Hill, we won’t tell you about it.
[0:28:37 – 0:28:37] Adam: No.
[0:28:37 – 0:28:39] Adam: Because it would be illegal.
[0:28:40 – 0:28:45] Adam: And the responsible thing to do is to say to wave at it next time, you know.
[0:28:46 – 0:28:48] Adam: So we probably won’t run up it.
[0:28:49 – 0:28:52] Adam: We’ve been up it in the past on previous Quetico trips.
[0:28:52 – 0:28:56] Adam: It’s weird to see that this hill is right there that we’ve been up.
[0:28:57 – 0:28:57] Adam: And that was…
[0:28:59 – 0:29:00] Adam: Nine years ago?
[0:29:00 – 0:29:01] Adam: Yeah, almost a decade ago.
[0:29:01 – 0:29:05] Adam: Eight years ago that you and I were over there running up that hill.
[0:29:06 – 0:29:07] Adam: Isn’t that weird?
[0:29:07 – 0:29:07] Adam: Yeah.
[0:29:07 – 0:29:08] Adam: Listening to Kate Bush.
[0:29:12 – 0:29:13] Erik: All right.
[0:29:13 – 0:29:18] Erik: Yeah, we were talking about how it’s just kind of weird out here.
[0:29:19 – 0:29:28] Erik: In episode 100, we talked about the way that you can measure your life against memories based on trips into the Boundary Waters.
[0:29:28 – 0:29:37] Erik: And then we were saying, how crazy is it that we are here directly south of a hill that we ran up almost 10 years ago.
[0:29:38 – 0:29:38] Erik: Those…
[0:29:40 – 0:29:53] Erik: Versions of ourselves could not possibly comprehend that there would be a future version just immediately across the lake.
[0:29:54 – 0:29:55] Erik: Nine, ten years down the line.
[0:29:55 – 0:29:59] Adam: Yeah, we went right by this campsite, which is a five.
[0:30:00 – 0:30:00] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:30:00 – 0:30:01] Adam: It’s a ten.
[0:30:01 – 0:30:02] Adam: Well, it’s…
[0:30:02 – 0:30:03] Adam: It’s a hot ten.
[0:30:04 – 0:30:05] Adam: And we went right by this.
[0:30:05 – 0:30:06] Adam: I never even saw it.
[0:30:06 – 0:30:09] Adam: Honestly, I don’t have any memory of this campsite.
[0:30:09 – 0:30:09] Erik: I don’t remember.
[0:30:10 – 0:30:10] Erik: I didn’t register it at all.
[0:30:11 – 0:30:12] Erik: I barely remember Warrior Hill.
[0:30:12 – 0:30:17] Adam: I remember Warrior Hill at the top, but I don’t really remember much of the in-between, like running up it.
[0:30:18 – 0:30:23] Adam: My favorite joke of the day was when we came around the first corner on the lock, and there’s a little tiny hill, and it goes…
[0:30:24 – 0:30:25] Adam: Eric, is that Warrior Hill?
[0:30:25 – 0:30:25] Adam: Yeah.
[0:30:26 – 0:30:28] Erik: No, it’s not quite tall enough, Bobby.
[0:30:28 – 0:30:30] Erik: Classic Bobby question.
[0:30:30 – 0:30:34] Erik: Yeah, and tomorrow morning after we have experienced the full…
[0:30:36 – 0:30:38] Erik: The Majestic Bald Eagle
[0:30:58 – 0:31:02] Erik: Rare, unheard of, and rarely seen.
[0:31:02 – 0:31:06] Erik: And when you see them, it’s like, oh my God, look at the bald eagle.
[0:31:06 – 0:31:11] Erik: But then sometimes they’ll be like a roadkill deer, and they’ll be like 12 bald eagles.
[0:31:11 – 0:31:14] Erik: It’s like, ugh, all right, well.
[0:31:14 – 0:31:16] Erik: When there’s a bunch of them all in one place,
[0:31:17 – 0:31:26] Erik: This does not translate to that at all because we are in a grove of beautiful, like, 50 to 150-year-old white pines.
[0:31:27 – 0:31:28] Adam: There’s a bald eagle right there.
[0:31:29 – 0:31:30] Adam: Oh, I see him.
[0:31:31 – 0:31:33] Erik: Yeah.
[0:31:33 – 0:31:33] Erik: Wow.
[0:31:34 – 0:31:36] Erik: We were, like, I would.
[0:31:36 – 0:31:38] Erik: This is the first bald eagle we’ve seen this whole trip.
[0:31:39 – 0:31:41] Adam: Wow.
[0:31:41 – 0:31:43] Adam: It’s a double bald eagle.
[0:31:43 – 0:31:47] Erik: There’s a campfire going with our food already cooked on it.
[0:31:47 – 0:31:49] Adam: We’re having ribeye steak.
[0:31:49 – 0:31:50] Erik: Oh, no.
[0:31:50 – 0:31:51] Erik: Okay, that didn’t make it.
[0:31:51 – 0:31:56] Erik: I thought maybe I had some magic power there for a second where whatever I was talking about would appear.
[0:31:57 – 0:32:07] Adam: There’s literally 48 different possible hammock configurations just near the fire grate, and that doesn’t even include the backspace and the deep site stuff.
[0:32:08 – 0:32:17] Adam: But I think we ought to just end this track with an appreciation to our new friend, Old Eagly, up there.
[0:32:17 – 0:32:18] Erik: Old Eagly.
[0:32:18 – 0:32:25] Erik: Yeah, this isn’t a… We will do our official campsite review tomorrow morning, as we always do after we have lived in the site.
[0:32:26 – 0:32:31] Erik: But you can look forward to camp chat either tonight or tomorrow.
[0:32:32 – 0:32:32] Erik: We…
[0:32:33 – 0:32:45] Erik: We’ve kind of teased slash between ourselves teased this conversation, which is overrated, underrated, best and worst.
[0:32:46 – 0:32:47] Adam: Holidays.
[0:32:47 – 0:32:49] Adam: Is Columbus Day even a holiday?
[0:32:50 – 0:32:52] Adam: Well, that’s technically a holiday.
[0:32:53 – 0:32:55] Adam: Does anybody celebrate Columbus Day?
[0:32:55 – 0:32:56] Adam: I doubt it.
[0:32:56 – 0:32:58] Adam: So is that fair game or no?
[0:32:58 – 0:33:00] Adam: Well, that’s the conversation.
[0:33:00 – 0:33:01] Adam: That’s the conversation we’re going to have.
[0:33:01 – 0:33:02] Adam: We’ll see.
[0:33:02 – 0:33:03] Adam: Eagly, what do you think?
[0:33:03 – 0:33:04] Adam: Eagly.
[0:33:05 – 0:33:06] Adam: So regal.
[0:33:06 – 0:33:07] Adam: So regal.
[0:33:07 – 0:33:08] Adam: So regal.
[0:33:08 – 0:33:09] Adam: Almost too regal.
[0:33:09 – 0:33:12] Adam: Too regal, he’s maxing out the majesty.
[0:33:12 – 0:33:14] Adam: It’s making me, like, uncomfortable.
[0:33:14 – 0:33:16] Adam: He’s wearing so much velvet.
[0:33:16 – 0:33:18] Erik: Did you already kill your Glenlivet?
[0:33:20 – 0:33:20] Erik: Glenlivet?
[0:33:21 – 0:33:22] Erik: Yes.
[0:33:22 – 0:33:23] Erik: That’s a hell of a name.
[0:33:23 – 0:33:24] Erik: Glenlivet.
[0:33:25 – 0:33:26] Erik: See you, amigo.
[0:33:26 – 0:33:43] Erik: He’s somebody that you would meet at a Las Vegas convention, and he would be hosting a meeting on how best to socially, responsibly promote your business.
[0:33:44 – 0:33:46] Erik: Hello, I’m Glenn LeVay.
[0:33:49 – 0:33:49] Erik: Welcome.
[0:33:49 – 0:33:52] Erik: Welcome.
[0:33:52 – 0:33:52] Erik: I flew here.
[0:33:53 – 0:33:55] Erik: Like a cut rate Tony Robbins.
[0:33:55 – 0:33:56] Erik: Yeah.
[0:33:57 – 0:33:57] Erik: All right.
[0:33:58 – 0:33:59] Erik: Now we’re really off the rails.
[0:33:59 – 0:34:02] Erik: We are going to stop.
[0:34:04 – 0:34:05] Erik: Thumbs up, Eagly.
[0:34:06 – 0:34:07] Adam: Thumbs up.
[0:34:22 – 0:34:23] Adam: Whoa, what is it?
[0:34:24 – 0:34:25] Adam: It’s another bass.
[0:34:25 – 0:34:26] Adam: It’s a nice bass.
[0:34:29 – 0:34:29] Adam: Jesus.
[0:34:30 – 0:34:32] Erik: That’s a hogger of a bass.
[0:34:32 – 0:34:36] Adam: Lordy, lordy.
[0:34:40 – 0:34:43] Erik: Good morning, LLC.
[0:34:44 – 0:34:46] Erik: Directly across from Warrior Hill.
[0:34:47 – 0:34:48] Erik: Did you get spooked last night?
[0:34:50 – 0:34:52] Adam: No, I slept pretty good.
[0:34:53 – 0:34:53] Adam: No spooks.
[0:34:54 – 0:34:54] Adam: No spooks.
[0:34:55 – 0:34:56] Erik: No night spooks.
[0:34:56 – 0:34:57] Erik: No hauntings.
[0:34:57 – 0:35:01] Adam: No, they didn’t come back, but I did hear somebody sawing wood in the middle of the night.
[0:35:02 – 0:35:05] Erik: That is a question that I cannot answer for you.
[0:35:05 – 0:35:06] Erik: I am sorry, my man.
[0:35:07 – 0:35:07] Erik: It was not me.
[0:35:07 – 0:35:09] Erik: It was not me.
[0:35:11 – 0:35:14] Adam: That wasn’t even a snoring joke either.
[0:35:14 – 0:35:15] Adam: I seriously woke up.
[0:35:15 – 0:35:18] Adam: I thought Eric was sawing wood at 3 in the morning.
[0:35:19 – 0:35:22] Adam: And I go, what were you sawing wood so early in the morning for?
[0:35:23 – 0:35:24] Adam: He’s like, I wasn’t sawing any wood.
[0:35:25 – 0:35:25] Adam: No.
[0:35:25 – 0:35:27] Adam: There wasn’t any sawed wood here either.
[0:35:27 – 0:35:30] Adam: So it must have been my imagination.
[0:35:31 – 0:35:32] Adam: So you did get haunted.
[0:35:33 – 0:35:34] Adam: Maybe, I guess.
[0:35:34 – 0:35:34] Erik: Yeah.
[0:35:35 – 0:35:40] Erik: Yeah, so you can tell things have laid down.
[0:35:41 – 0:35:45] Erik: Lac La Croix is a docile, like, petable kitty right now.
[0:35:46 – 0:35:47] Erik: It’s just perfect.
[0:35:48 – 0:35:48] Erik: The sun is…
[0:35:49 – 0:35:55] Erik: It’s probably like 4.15 in the morning, but the sun is blazing and high in the sky already.
[0:35:56 – 0:35:58] Erik: And I don’t know how you have a black hoodie on.
[0:35:58 – 0:36:02] Erik: I am like thinking I might just get naked today at some point.
[0:36:02 – 0:36:04] Erik: Soaking it up like a turtle on a log.
[0:36:06 – 0:36:09] Erik: A little known fact, Adam is cold-blooded and has a reptile brain.
[0:36:11 – 0:36:17] Erik: So, yeah, our goals today are quite attainable.
[0:36:19 – 0:36:21] Erik: No portaging planned.
[0:36:21 – 0:36:24] Erik: It’s going to be a pretty relaxed day.
[0:36:25 – 0:36:27] Erik: Going to head up, check out the…
[0:36:27 – 0:36:28] Erik: Lack la chill.
[0:36:28 – 0:36:30] Erik: Lack la chill.
[0:36:31 – 0:36:34] Erik: Yeah, that’s what this episode’s title is, Lack La Chill.
[0:36:34 – 0:36:35] Adam: Lack La Chill, baby.
[0:36:38 – 0:36:39] Adam: Lack La Chiefs.
[0:36:40 – 0:36:40] Erik: Lack La Chiefs.
[0:36:40 – 0:36:53] Erik: We’re going to go up and check out the Pictos, the Clearwater Moose, head up through Fish Steak Narrows, probably do some fishing, probably do some stopping and lunching and…
[0:36:54 – 0:36:56] Adam: Maybe even some… Two lunches today.
[0:36:56 – 0:36:56] Adam: Yeah.
[0:36:57 – 0:36:58] Erik: Maybe even some swimming.
[0:36:58 – 0:36:59] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:36:59 – 0:37:03] Erik: It’s going to be tough to get me in the water, but I’m going to get hot.
[0:37:03 – 0:37:04] Erik: I can tell you that already.
[0:37:07 – 0:37:22] Erik: And we’re going to kind of stage just below Pocket Creek for our Pocket Creek entry tomorrow for an eventual Oyster Lake camp.
[0:37:23 – 0:37:23] Erik: So…
[0:37:24 – 0:37:31] Erik: The pistons are not firing at 100% speed yet, and I don’t know.
[0:37:31 – 0:37:39] Erik: I think we’re just kind of going at a little bit of a slower pace this trip, and hopefully that produces a little bit more in the way of fish.
[0:37:40 – 0:37:45] Erik: We’ve got a couple of slip bobbers off of the island here that have produced minimal success.
[0:37:46 – 0:37:48] Erik: A couple of bass and a pike.
[0:37:48 – 0:37:50] Adam: The ghouls chased them off.
[0:37:50 – 0:37:50] Adam: We figured it out.
[0:37:51 – 0:37:53] Adam: They used the life force of the fish we were catching.
[0:37:53 – 0:37:55] Adam: They scared off the fish to manifest.
[0:37:56 – 0:38:00] Erik: Yeah, they have to use some kind of an energy to make themselves known.
[0:38:00 – 0:38:02] Adam: We didn’t catch nothing after them things showed up.
[0:38:04 – 0:38:06] Adam: No, it did slow down considerably.
[0:38:06 – 0:38:09] Adam: We strapped in and got another bite after that.
[0:38:09 – 0:38:09] Adam: Right.
[0:38:09 – 0:38:10] Adam: We had to basically call it a night.
[0:38:11 – 0:38:12] Erik: Yeah, called it a night.
[0:38:12 – 0:38:14] Adam: About midnight, you know, it’s starting to get a little dark.
[0:38:14 – 0:38:15] Adam: It’s starting to get a little dark.
[0:38:15 – 0:38:19] Adam: At 1030, we finally fried up some ground beef and a half rack of ribs.
[0:38:19 – 0:38:20] Adam: My God, those ribs.
[0:38:20 – 0:38:23] Adam: That was the first thing I thought of as soon as I blinked my eyes open this morning.
[0:38:23 – 0:38:25] Adam: I go, mmm, ribs.
[0:38:27 – 0:38:28] Adam: Oh, boy, I can still taste them.
[0:38:29 – 0:38:31] Erik: Yeah, there’s still another half rack in the cooler.
[0:38:31 – 0:38:32] Erik: That’s awesome.
[0:38:32 – 0:38:33] Erik: That’s great news.
[0:38:33 – 0:38:35] Erik: Throw those on the rock here.
[0:38:35 – 0:38:38] Erik: They’ll probably be warm in 10 minutes.
[0:38:39 – 0:38:40] Erik: So we did promise a conversation.
[0:38:42 – 0:38:42] Erik: Bobber check?
[0:38:43 – 0:38:44] Adam: I don’t see your bobber.
[0:38:44 – 0:38:44] Adam: Uh-oh.
[0:38:44 – 0:38:45] Adam: It was down.
[0:38:45 – 0:38:45] Erik: What?
[0:38:46 – 0:38:46] Erik: It’s gone.
[0:38:46 – 0:38:46] Erik: All right.
[0:39:01 – 0:39:02] Adam: He’s got him.
[0:39:03 – 0:39:03] Adam: Oh, boy.
[0:39:04 – 0:39:06] Adam: It’s a crappie.
[0:39:06 – 0:39:06] Adam: Nope.
[0:39:07 – 0:39:07] Adam: It’s a bass.
[0:39:08 – 0:39:11] Adam: It is a runty old bass.
[0:39:13 – 0:39:19] Adam: See, once we cracked the mystery on what those ghouls were doing, now the fish have returned.
[0:39:19 – 0:39:24] Adam: That was a pretty good sprint down to the lake, Eric.
[0:39:24 – 0:39:25] Erik: Yeah, it was.
[0:39:25 – 0:39:26] Adam: He’s not hooked too bad.
[0:39:26 – 0:39:27] Adam: Nope.
[0:39:30 – 0:39:33] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:39:34 – 0:39:35] Adam: What do you have to say for yourself?
[0:39:37 – 0:39:37] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:39:38 – 0:39:40] Adam: I think you guys are pretty cool, though.
[0:39:40 – 0:39:41] Adam: All right.
[0:39:41 – 0:39:43] Adam: Man, that’s a cool fish.
[0:39:43 – 0:39:44] UNKNOWN: He’s really cool.
[0:39:44 – 0:39:45] Adam: I think he’s a tumble, homie.
[0:39:45 – 0:39:46] Adam: Yeah, he was.
[0:39:46 – 0:39:48] Adam: I think we should give him a sticker and send him back.
[0:39:48 – 0:39:49] Adam: Goodbye.
[0:39:49 – 0:39:50] Adam: Oh, no.
[0:39:50 – 0:39:51] Adam: Back from whence you came.
[0:39:51 – 0:39:51] Adam: Oh, boy.
[0:39:51 – 0:39:53] Adam: Eric’s got himself a bit of a tangler here.
[0:39:54 – 0:39:59] Adam: Ooh, we got a couple boats inbound here, too, on the left here at 10 o’clock.
[0:40:02 – 0:40:04] Erik: Yeah, we, uh… Jesus.
[0:40:05 – 0:40:07] Adam: Alright, well, that’s a complete redo, I would say.
[0:40:08 – 0:40:09] Adam: I would just retie that, yeah.
[0:40:09 – 0:40:10] Erik: Yeah.
[0:40:10 – 0:40:14] Adam: Alright, uh, we’re gonna get the bacon frying up here.
[0:40:14 – 0:40:16] Erik: We gotta talk about holidays.
[0:40:16 – 0:40:18] Erik: We’ve been teasing that, like, way too much.
[0:40:18 – 0:40:20] Erik: Alright, we’ll do the holiday check.
[0:40:20 – 0:40:26] Erik: Okay, let’s, uh… Yeah, let’s just stop the track and we’ll check in with you when the bacon is frying.
[0:40:27 – 0:40:28] Erik: Because this is, um…
[0:40:29 – 0:40:31] Adam: This is a real bird’s nest of a knot here.
[0:40:31 – 0:40:32] Adam: Okay.
[0:40:32 – 0:40:34] Adam: Eight-inch bass was not worth this pain.
[0:40:34 – 0:40:35] Adam: Well, it was definitely worth it.
[0:40:35 – 0:40:35] Adam: All right.
[0:40:44 – 0:40:47] Erik: A couple of bielers, boys, coming back at you.
[0:40:49 – 0:40:53] Erik: Frying up the bacon in the hot, hot sun.
[0:40:53 – 0:40:55] Erik: Also, it’s for foot warmth.
[0:40:55 – 0:40:57] Erik: My feet are getting just a little cold.
[0:40:58 – 0:41:00] Erik: Yeah, gotta heat those heels.
[0:41:00 – 0:41:02] Adam: Keep the heels warm.
[0:41:04 – 0:41:06] Erik: I think that’s in the scout’s handbook.
[0:41:07 – 0:41:09] Erik: Always keep the heels warm.
[0:41:09 – 0:41:12] Adam: Where’s my coffee at?
[0:41:13 – 0:41:15] Erik: Over there on the table rock.
[0:41:16 – 0:41:19] Erik: So overrated, underrated, best, worst holidays.
[0:41:20 – 0:41:20] Adam: Yeah.
[0:41:20 – 0:41:21] Erik: Start with overrated.
[0:41:21 – 0:41:22] Erik: Overrated holidays.
[0:41:23 – 0:41:24] Erik: You have one right to go?
[0:41:24 – 0:41:25] Erik: Yeah.
[0:41:25 – 0:41:25] Erik: Okay.
[0:41:25 – 0:41:26] Erik: New Year’s Eve.
[0:41:26 – 0:41:29] Erik: Yeah, that was my thinking for sure.
[0:41:29 – 0:41:35] Erik: New Year’s Eve is, especially at this point in my life, not even something I look forward to.
[0:41:35 – 0:41:36] Adam: I can’t stay up till midnight?
[0:41:37 – 0:41:37] Adam: Yeah.
[0:41:38 – 0:41:41] Erik: And it’s already at the end of being with your family for a week straight.
[0:41:41 – 0:41:44] Adam: Yeah, it comes too close after the Christmas celebration.
[0:41:45 – 0:41:45] Adam: Bobber down.
[0:41:47 – 0:41:48] Erik: Adam is running for a bobber.
[0:41:48 – 0:41:51] Erik: I’m going to slowly follow him down to the shore here.
[0:41:52 – 0:41:54] Erik: I’m sure it’s a… Nope, back up.
[0:41:54 – 0:41:54] Erik: What?
[0:41:55 – 0:41:56] Erik: What is going on?
[0:41:57 – 0:41:59] Erik: That bobber has done that twice now.
[0:42:01 – 0:42:07] Adam: Uh-oh.
[0:42:07 – 0:42:08] Erik: You can have it.
[0:42:10 – 0:42:12] Erik: Just back down.
[0:42:15 – 0:42:16] Erik: It was for a second.
[0:42:17 – 0:42:20] Erik: Yeah, we’ll just… What about the bacon?
[0:42:20 – 0:42:24] Erik: We are torn between our two obligations right now.
[0:42:24 – 0:42:26] Erik: One, managing this fickle bobber.
[0:42:27 – 0:42:29] Adam: Yeah, why did I stretch myself so thin?
[0:42:29 – 0:42:32] Adam: Yeah, we got too many… Bobber duty and bacon duty at the same time?
[0:42:33 – 0:42:33] Erik: Yeah, you’re crazy.
[0:42:33 – 0:42:34] Adam: You’re mad, boy, you’re mad.
[0:42:35 – 0:42:40] Erik: So, yeah, I mean, the other… That’s a suckling walleye there.
[0:42:41 – 0:42:43] Erik: Get him in the… You need to just hold on to your rod.
[0:42:43 – 0:42:43] Erik: Yeah.
[0:42:47 – 0:42:48] Adam: Damn.
[0:42:48 – 0:42:49] Erik: You really ripped that thing.
[0:42:50 – 0:42:50] Erik: Woo.
[0:42:50 – 0:42:51] Adam: All right.
[0:42:52 – 0:42:53] Adam: Well, that ends the bobber out.
[0:42:54 – 0:42:57] Adam: At least we can focus now.
[0:42:57 – 0:42:58] Erik: Yeah.
[0:42:58 – 0:42:59] Erik: Yep.
[0:42:59 – 0:43:03] Erik: Focus on watching the wind pick up and sequestering us in camp.
[0:43:04 – 0:43:05] Erik: It’s not going to pick up.
[0:43:05 – 0:43:05] Erik: Nah.
[0:43:05 – 0:43:06] Erik: This is the calmest day.
[0:43:06 – 0:43:08] Erik: This is going to be a calm day.
[0:43:08 – 0:43:13] Erik: The only other holiday that comes to mind that’s kind of along those lines is…
[0:43:15 – 0:43:17] Erik: Well, no, I’m going to save it because it’s my worst.
[0:43:17 – 0:43:18] Erik: So, yeah, overrated.
[0:43:18 – 0:43:19] Erik: I’m in complete agreeance.
[0:43:21 – 0:43:22] Erik: New Year’s Eve.
[0:43:23 – 0:43:23] Erik: It’s the worst.
[0:43:24 – 0:43:24] Erik: It sucks.
[0:43:24 – 0:43:30] Adam: New Year’s Day is nice if you get it off, but I’ve had to work New Year’s Day, too, so whatever.
[0:43:31 – 0:43:31] Adam: Yeah.
[0:43:31 – 0:43:33] Adam: You don’t want to work on New Year’s Day, either.
[0:43:33 – 0:43:34] Erik: It’s too close to Christmas.
[0:43:38 – 0:44:06] Adam: really i mean the artificial construct of the monkey brain there you go you know me i’m a reptilian smooth brain i don’t like it i don’t like to celebrate time yeah why what’s the point and like there’s a i really don’t do much for my own birth i try and like hide my own birthday from people now because i just really don’t care that much yeah you’re nice if like natalie and i have a piece of cake or something just one piece of cake shared cake i don’t like i don’t like candles unless they’re party candles yeah so that’s overrated new year’s
[0:44:08 – 0:44:29] Adam: new year’s in your own personal birthday my own personal birthday i don’t i’m not against celebrating birthdays i just don’t think you’re gonna make a big deal out of it anymore i’m not you know nothing’s changing year to year for me right yeah you’re not growing as a person or anything it’s just yeah it’s not time for reflection at all no also big uh
[0:44:30 – 0:44:32] Adam: Big thumbs down to Columbus Day.
[0:44:32 – 0:44:33] Adam: Well, of course.
[0:44:33 – 0:44:35] Adam: Columbus didn’t discover anything.
[0:44:35 – 0:44:36] Adam: Why is that a federal holiday anywhere?
[0:44:37 – 0:44:41] Adam: They should make that, strike that one from the books and make Election Day a federal holiday.
[0:44:41 – 0:44:42] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:44:43 – 0:44:52] Erik: We’ll finish the conversation with what should, we could maybe have a conversation on inventing a holiday or a day that could be more of a, like, a day off.
[0:44:52 – 0:44:53] Erik: A three-day weekend.
[0:44:53 – 0:44:54] Erik: Are you looking for the tongs or the…
[0:44:56 – 0:44:56] Erik: A spoon.
[0:44:57 – 0:44:57] Adam: There we go.
[0:44:57 – 0:44:58] Adam: Big spoon.
[0:44:58 – 0:44:59] Erik: Big spoon.
[0:45:00 – 0:45:01] Erik: Rising.
[0:45:02 – 0:45:04] Erik: Roll black water.
[0:45:04 – 0:45:05] Erik: Keep on rising.
[0:45:06 – 0:45:07] Erik: Mississippi queen, don’t you?
[0:45:07 – 0:45:09] Erik: I think I’ve mixed up like eight songs there.
[0:45:10 – 0:45:11] Adam: So what’s next?
[0:45:11 – 0:45:12] Adam: Underrated.
[0:45:12 – 0:45:13] Adam: That’s underrated.
[0:45:13 – 0:45:14] Adam: Yeah.
[0:45:14 – 0:45:15] Erik: What’s your underrated holiday?
[0:45:18 – 0:45:18] Adam: Well…
[0:45:20 – 0:45:21] Adam: Or is this just the best holiday?
[0:45:21 – 0:45:22] Adam: Or is that later?
[0:45:22 – 0:45:24] Adam: Yeah, there’s also best and worst.
[0:45:24 – 0:45:25] Adam: Oh, boy.
[0:45:25 – 0:45:25] Adam: You’ve got to go.
[0:45:26 – 0:45:27] Adam: Because I only have a best.
[0:45:27 – 0:45:28] Adam: I don’t know if I have the one that’s underrated.
[0:45:29 – 0:45:31] Adam: The ones I like are pretty popular.
[0:45:31 – 0:45:32] Erik: Oh, that’s fine.
[0:45:32 – 0:45:34] Adam: I like solstices.
[0:45:34 – 0:45:34] Adam: They’re underrated.
[0:45:35 – 0:45:36] Adam: Well, yeah, and that’s okay.
[0:45:36 – 0:45:38] Adam: Nobody celebrates the solstice.
[0:45:38 – 0:45:42] Adam: As a pagan, I think that it’s important to worship the sun.
[0:45:43 – 0:45:47] Adam: And so I like the solstice, both the winter and the summer solstice.
[0:45:47 – 0:45:48] Adam: I like the extremes.
[0:45:48 – 0:45:49] Erik: That’s legit.
[0:45:49 – 0:45:49] Adam: Thank you.
[0:45:49 – 0:45:50] Adam: That’s the underrated.
[0:45:51 – 0:45:51] Erik: Yeah.
[0:45:51 – 0:45:53] Adam: Not enough attention being paid to what the sun’s up to.
[0:45:54 – 0:45:54] Adam: Yeah.
[0:45:54 – 0:45:59] Adam: We’re just an insignificant little asteroid floating in space around this thing.
[0:45:59 – 0:46:01] Adam: I mean, least we could do.
[0:46:02 – 0:46:02] Adam: Yeah.
[0:46:03 – 0:46:04] Adam: It’s least we could do.
[0:46:04 – 0:46:08] Adam: Coming into this super unprepared, I think I’m hitting them out of the park, Eric.
[0:46:08 – 0:46:09] Adam: Well, I mean, I’m…
[0:46:10 – 0:46:11] Erik: Not for nothing.
[0:46:11 – 0:46:12] Erik: I did send you a message.
[0:46:12 – 0:46:17] Erik: This is one of the more prepared questions that we have had in the past.
[0:46:17 – 0:46:19] Erik: I’m not dropping this on you, like, out of nowhere.
[0:46:19 – 0:46:22] Adam: I like to just go into them, you know, a little raw, though.
[0:46:22 – 0:46:23] Erik: Yeah, I mean.
[0:46:23 – 0:46:26] Adam: I keep looking for that bobber, even though we pulled it.
[0:46:26 – 0:46:26] Erik: Yeah, it’s down.
[0:46:26 – 0:46:28] Erik: It’s always down.
[0:46:28 – 0:46:31] Erik: Might have to address that fire, our bacons.
[0:46:32 – 0:46:34] Erik: You got too much going on right now.
[0:46:34 – 0:46:34] Erik: I know.
[0:46:36 – 0:46:40] Erik: You just got to really learn how to allocate your camp chores in the proper way.
[0:46:40 – 0:46:41] Erik: I’m on mic duty.
[0:46:43 – 0:46:44] Erik: Tend to that bacon.
[0:46:44 – 0:46:45] Erik: It’s cooling down.
[0:46:45 – 0:46:50] Erik: Yeah, so your underrated is more of an appreciation for solstices.
[0:46:51 – 0:46:52] Erik: How about equinoxes?
[0:46:52 – 0:46:53] Adam: I’m cool with equinoxes.
[0:46:53 – 0:46:54] Adam: Yeah, those too.
[0:46:54 – 0:46:54] Adam: I like them.
[0:46:54 – 0:46:55] Erik: All of them.
[0:46:55 – 0:46:56] Erik: All of the measurements.
[0:46:56 – 0:46:58] Adam: Is there a game for the halfway between an equinox and a solstice?
[0:46:58 – 0:46:58] Adam: There is.
[0:46:58 – 0:46:59] Adam: I would celebrate those too.
[0:47:01 – 0:47:08] Erik: A friend of the show and just a friend in our life, Josh, was telling us about that the last time we were out playing disc.
[0:47:09 – 0:47:09] Erik: True.
[0:47:09 – 0:47:16] Erik: He was talking about the in-between, even more measured out sun time.
[0:47:16 – 0:47:18] Adam: Yeah, I got to get more into these sun holidays.
[0:47:19 – 0:47:19] Erik: Yeah.
[0:47:19 – 0:47:21] Adam: I think that’s the key here.
[0:47:23 – 0:47:25] Erik: I’m going flag day for underrated.
[0:47:25 – 0:47:25] Erik: No.
[0:47:25 – 0:47:25] Erik: Yeah.
[0:47:27 – 0:47:30] Erik: Just a holiday celebrating the flag.
[0:47:30 – 0:47:32] Erik: Why is that even a holiday?
[0:47:33 – 0:47:34] Erik: Do you do anything for it?
[0:47:35 – 0:47:36] Erik: It’s on the calendar.
[0:47:36 – 0:47:40] Erik: I wish we had the Ron Schera calendar out here with us.
[0:47:40 – 0:47:43] Adam: I thought about taking pictures of all the days, but I didn’t.
[0:47:44 – 0:47:46] Adam: That’s a studio-only device.
[0:47:46 – 0:47:47] Erik: Yeah, that’s true.
[0:47:49 – 0:47:50] Erik: My underrated…
[0:47:50 – 0:47:51] Erik: I’m going to have to go.
[0:47:51 – 0:47:53] Erik: My legit underrated is…
[0:47:55 – 0:47:56] Erik: Boy, I don’t know.
[0:47:57 – 0:48:13] Erik: I think it’s, I’m going to say it’s underrated, and then I’m going to segue that just into favorite, because you can’t be, there’s not enough, it doesn’t get enough credit, even though it is a very popular and great holiday, and that’s just straight up Thanksgiving.
[0:48:14 – 0:48:18] Adam: Yeah, well, that’s my, Thanksgiving’s like my favorite holiday.
[0:48:18 – 0:48:18] Adam: Yeah.
[0:48:19 – 0:48:24] Erik: So even though it is very clearly a popular holiday, it’s still underrated.
[0:48:24 – 0:48:25] Erik: That’s just how great it is.
[0:48:25 – 0:48:26] Adam: I was originally going to say for underrated.
[0:48:26 – 0:48:31] Adam: I wanted to make sure there was a best because I love Thanksgiving’s the best.
[0:48:31 – 0:48:38] Erik: Close second for me, at least, is what is now becoming our own personal holiday, and that’s just the Fourth of Brulai.
[0:48:38 – 0:48:43] Erik: So that would be – before that was definitely –
[0:48:44 – 0:48:50] Erik: Not really on my radar as 4th of July being very exciting or anything like fireworks don’t really do much for me.
[0:48:50 – 0:48:56] Erik: I don’t really, I don’t really, crowds, I don’t really care about parades or the birth of a nation, whatever.
[0:48:57 – 0:49:00] Erik: But everything else that we do with the 4th of July is like stands alone.
[0:49:01 – 0:49:04] Erik: And now that is like one of my favorite things that I look forward to.
[0:49:05 – 0:49:08] Erik: Which is essentially summer Halloween.
[0:49:08 – 0:49:10] Adam: Yeah, it is.
[0:49:11 – 0:49:13] Adam: Summer Halloween, costumes, floaties.
[0:49:14 – 0:49:17] Adam: How many times do you get to wear a costume and float in a lake?
[0:49:17 – 0:49:17] Erik: Yeah.
[0:49:18 – 0:49:19] Erik: See, Halloween’s got it all wrong.
[0:49:20 – 0:49:21] Erik: Too cold.
[0:49:21 – 0:49:21] Erik: Too cold.
[0:49:22 – 0:49:25] Erik: Halloween lands on the wrong time of the year.
[0:49:25 – 0:49:27] Erik: You can’t be swimming in your ghoul costume.
[0:49:28 – 0:49:29] Adam: Fourth of Brulia, too.
[0:49:29 – 0:49:32] Adam: It’s nice and warm, so you can wear real skimpy costumes if you want.
[0:49:33 – 0:49:37] Adam: I think I’m going to go as something sexy this year.
[0:49:37 – 0:49:38] Adam: You’re not going to go as a beaver?
[0:49:39 – 0:49:39] Adam: Sexy beaver.
[0:49:40 – 0:49:40] Erik: Yeah.
[0:49:40 – 0:49:41] Erik: Ooh, wow.
[0:49:41 – 0:49:41] Erik: Sexy beaver.
[0:49:42 – 0:49:44] Erik: That’s, yeah.
[0:49:44 – 0:49:46] Erik: Worst is by far…
[0:49:48 – 0:49:53] Erik: Well, by far two of them, and they’re for the same reason, and that’s St. Patrick’s Day and Valentine’s Day.
[0:49:54 – 0:49:55] Erik: Those two are the worst.
[0:49:55 – 0:49:56] Erik: Drummed up.
[0:49:56 – 0:49:57] Erik: Talk about crowds.
[0:49:58 – 0:50:10] Erik: Just wait a day and go out the day after or go out a day early, and then you can avoid all of the dumb, green, drinking piss boys out of the bar lined up 12 deep.
[0:50:10 – 0:50:16] Adam: Yeah, I won’t go out to the bar for a green beer, but Natalie made green beers for us at home.
[0:50:16 – 0:50:16] Adam: Yeah.
[0:50:16 – 0:50:18] Adam: And I enjoyed it.
[0:50:18 – 0:50:18] Adam: Sure.
[0:50:19 – 0:50:19] Adam: That’s okay.
[0:50:19 – 0:50:20] Adam: I’m okay with that.
[0:50:20 – 0:50:27] Adam: But, yeah, going out and, like, wearing green beads and taking a bus to some bar, no.
[0:50:28 – 0:50:30] Erik: Yeah, taking a big shuttle bus.
[0:50:30 – 0:50:35] Erik: You’ve got to park at a certain area to start drinking at 10 a.m., which, ugh.
[0:50:36 – 0:50:38] Adam: I like Valentine’s Day because you get to make a Valentine’s.
[0:50:38 – 0:50:40] Erik: Well, your own personal aspect to it.
[0:50:40 – 0:50:45] Erik: But what you’re expected to do for Valentine’s Day, that’s just all fake.
[0:50:45 – 0:50:46] Erik: It’s all fake.
[0:50:46 – 0:50:47] Erik: It’s a fake holiday.
[0:50:48 – 0:50:52] Erik: So is the special menu at the restaurant that you pay $100 more for.
[0:50:53 – 0:50:54] Erik: Just go out the next day.
[0:50:54 – 0:50:54] Erik: No.
[0:50:55 – 0:50:58] Erik: We’re in contention at this point.
[0:50:58 – 0:51:00] Erik: And you’ve let your bacon fire go out.
[0:51:00 – 0:51:01] Erik: I should point that out.
[0:51:02 – 0:51:03] Adam: We’re busy getting a bobber.
[0:51:08 – 0:51:11] Erik: And then would you invent a holiday?
[0:51:11 – 0:51:13] Erik: Something that needs to be a little bit more prominent?
[0:51:13 – 0:51:17] Erik: Or are you just going to stick with the solstice?
[0:51:18 – 0:51:19] Adam: Yeah, no, I would.
[0:51:20 – 0:51:23] Adam: Well, we’re going to have a big bonfire for the solstice this year.
[0:51:23 – 0:51:25] Adam: We’ve tried to do that every year.
[0:51:25 – 0:51:28] Adam: So, yeah, no, I’m just going to try and, like, feature the sun holidays more.
[0:51:28 – 0:51:32] Adam: I’ve got to learn about these sub-quarterlies and get in on that, too.
[0:51:32 – 0:51:32] Adam: Yeah.
[0:51:33 – 0:51:35] Adam: And start paying more attention to that.
[0:51:35 – 0:51:35] Adam: I mean…
[0:51:36 – 0:51:43] Adam: I also do watch the moon cycles too, but you always gotta keep your eye on the moon.
[0:51:43 – 0:51:47] Erik: We’re at about a midday, midday half moon.
[0:51:48 – 0:51:52] Erik: Not anything too crazy that keeps us up at night, but we are moving towards a full moon.
[0:51:53 – 0:51:54] Erik: Uh, yeah.
[0:51:54 – 0:51:55] Erik: Uh, yeah.
[0:51:55 – 0:51:56] Erik: I like the, the sun holidays.
[0:51:57 – 0:52:06] Erik: They should be more appreciated, but we’ve got all these Christian holidays and federal holidays that nobody pays attention to except when it gives them an extra day off.
[0:52:07 – 0:52:07] Erik: Um,
[0:52:09 – 0:52:10] Erik: I don’t know if I have one that I would add.
[0:52:10 – 0:52:14] Erik: 4th of July 2, which is essentially just 4th of Brulai.
[0:52:14 – 0:52:17] Erik: That’d be hard to get anybody convinced to make that a federal holiday.
[0:52:17 – 0:52:18] Erik: That’s just for us.
[0:52:21 – 0:52:21] Adam: All right.
[0:52:21 – 0:52:30] Adam: I think, yeah, you could just have like a whole week of summer in which everybody is just expected to be in a canoe for the whole week.
[0:52:30 – 0:52:32] Adam: Everything shuts down like Europe.
[0:52:32 – 0:52:33] Adam: Yeah, exactly.
[0:52:33 – 0:52:34] Erik: Shops are all closed.
[0:52:34 – 0:52:35] Erik: Everybody’s out on the water.
[0:52:40 – 0:52:46] Erik: All right, from Lack La Chill, that’s your holiday roundtable discussion.
[0:52:47 – 0:52:49] Erik: Well, it’s a straight bench discussion.
[0:52:49 – 0:52:51] Erik: A bench table.
[0:52:51 – 0:52:53] Erik: A bench table discussion.
[0:52:54 – 0:52:57] Erik: Going to get the bacon fire restarted.
[0:52:57 – 0:52:58] Adam: It’s going.
[0:53:00 – 0:53:00] Erik: Uh, yeah.
[0:53:01 – 0:53:02] Erik: We’ll see where we end up today.
[0:53:03 – 0:53:13] Erik: I don’t know if we, uh, we’ll come, yeah, we’ll come back to who’s yet to do official, an official campsite review here of this, um, excellent campsite.
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[0:53:59 – 0:54:01] Erik: Update from Lacklachill.
[0:54:02 – 0:54:05] Adam: We’re still adjacent to Warrior Hill.
[0:54:05 – 0:54:06] Erik: Hey.
[0:54:07 – 0:54:09] Erik: I’m a poet, and I didn’t even realize it.
[0:54:12 – 0:54:13] Erik: Just had some belts.
[0:54:14 – 0:54:14] Erik: Bacon, egg.
[0:54:15 – 0:54:16] Erik: Well, we had some becks.
[0:54:17 – 0:54:19] Erik: Bacon, egg, cilantro, tomato.
[0:54:20 – 0:54:20] Erik: Mayo.
[0:54:21 – 0:54:21] Adam: It was good.
[0:54:22 – 0:54:22] Erik: Beckhamts.
[0:54:23 – 0:54:24] Erik: If you’re going the full acronym.
[0:54:26 – 0:54:27] Erik: Who played…
[0:54:29 – 0:54:37] Erik: The lead role as chief goose guide in Fly Away Home.
[0:54:37 – 0:54:40] Erik: Our working bonjour is goose brains right now.
[0:54:42 – 0:54:46] Erik: My claim is Ellen Page, and you said Hillary Swank.
[0:54:46 – 0:54:47] Adam: I’m going with Hillary Swank.
[0:54:48 – 0:54:57] Adam: We just saw a group of literally 100 goose go over in a nice V. It was a very fine V. I definitely had heard some geese before I got out of the hammock, so they’re moving.
[0:54:58 – 0:55:00] Adam: You got us thinking about winged migration.
[0:55:01 – 0:55:02] Adam: Then Eric was confused.
[0:55:02 – 0:55:08] Adam: He thought winged migration was the Disney production where she teaches the geese how to fly out of the garden.
[0:55:09 – 0:55:11] Adam: But I believe that was called Fly Away Home.
[0:55:11 – 0:55:15] Adam: So then we were starting to discuss who is the leading actress from Fly Away Home.
[0:55:16 – 0:55:17] Adam: All their wild cards?
[0:55:18 – 0:55:20] Erik: Tumblehomecast at gmail.com.
[0:55:20 – 0:55:21] Erik: Zooey Deschanel?
[0:55:21 – 0:55:22] Erik: No.
[0:55:22 – 0:55:24] Erik: She’s never been in a hang glider.
[0:55:24 – 0:55:25] Adam: She’s so quirky.
[0:55:25 – 0:55:26] Erik: Yeah.
[0:55:26 – 0:55:29] Erik: Those bangs would never hold up in the wind of the Ontario North.
[0:55:29 – 0:55:31] Erik: She looks like some flight goggles.
[0:55:32 – 0:55:32] Erik: Yeah.
[0:55:32 – 0:55:33] Adam: You should pull it off.
[0:55:33 – 0:55:36] Erik: Yeah, winged migration is the doc of the whole thing.
[0:55:37 – 0:55:38] Adam: Really a good one.
[0:55:38 – 0:55:39] Adam: Yeah, actually, it is.
[0:55:39 – 0:55:40] Adam: And, like, we were talking…
[0:55:42 – 0:55:57] Erik: We, I feel like as a species, humans do not fully understand the interpersonal dynamics of the goose flying V. Like where and when do they decide to stop?
[0:55:58 – 0:56:01] Erik: Who gets that like, like point position?
[0:56:01 – 0:56:04] Adam: I think they straight up, but for how long does somebody stay up and lead?
[0:56:05 – 0:56:12] Erik: And is it a training technique for like older geese that say like, hey, Bobby, now is your time.
[0:56:12 – 0:56:13] Erik: Get up there and lead.
[0:56:13 – 0:56:18] Erik: Or is it like the super like grizzled vet goose who’s up front leading the way?
[0:56:18 – 0:56:24] Adam: I assume it’s more of the veteran geese that lead, and then as the younger ones come up, they learn the role and move into that position.
[0:56:25 – 0:56:29] Adam: But I don’t know, maybe they all start flying it, and they all actually cycle through and just do it from birth.
[0:56:29 – 0:56:29] Adam: Who knows?
[0:56:30 – 0:56:31] Adam: Maybe they all got the goose beak.
[0:56:31 – 0:56:32] Adam: They got the thing in the beak.
[0:56:33 – 0:56:35] Adam: They got that goose brain going.
[0:56:36 – 0:56:39] Adam: From birth, they basically hatch right out the egg and start flying north.
[0:56:39 – 0:57:06] Erik: yeah and like i want to know what the story is on the uh the guys that are just like at the back the last goose in the line of the v is are those the that’s me today that’s it just depends how you’re feeling that day yeah do you get to make that decision or is it like a hierarchy thing yeah it was a disgusting camp prior to takeoff like i’m gonna hang on the back today i got my batteries didn’t get a full charge last night
[0:57:06 – 0:57:12] Erik: Can you, like, disband from, like, a V and, like, join another one that passes over if you need an extra rest day?
[0:57:12 – 0:57:12] Adam: I’m tired.
[0:57:13 – 0:57:14] Adam: I’m so tired.
[0:57:14 – 0:57:14] Adam: So tired.
[0:57:14 – 0:57:18] Adam: Yeah, I don’t think they all, like, stay with each other the whole way.
[0:57:18 – 0:57:22] Adam: And then, like, yeah, groups join other groups and then break off.
[0:57:23 – 0:57:25] Adam: I assume it’s pretty fluid.
[0:57:26 – 0:57:31] Erik: And why, like, just the V aspect of it is just, like, so crazy to think about.
[0:57:32 – 0:57:32] Erik: It could be anything.
[0:57:32 – 0:57:34] Erik: It could just be a massive swarm.
[0:57:34 – 0:57:36] Erik: It could be a single line.
[0:57:36 – 0:57:42] Erik: The fact that they decided to go in, like, the V triangulation, it’s just, like, it’s so beautiful and poetic.
[0:57:43 – 0:57:44] Erik: I kind of want to know.
[0:57:44 – 0:57:49] Erik: I want to learn more about the goose, and that might involve me watching Fly Away Home.
[0:57:50 – 0:57:52] Adam: Don’t watch Wing Migration.
[0:57:52 – 0:57:53] Adam: Watch Fly Away Home.
[0:57:53 – 0:57:54] Adam: Yeah, I’m sure that’s where all the details are.
[0:57:54 – 0:57:56] Erik: It’s packed with information.
[0:57:57 – 0:57:57] Erik: All right.
[0:57:59 – 0:58:00] Erik: Breakfast is done.
[0:58:00 – 0:58:02] Erik: Winged migration is on the mind.
[0:58:03 – 0:58:07] Erik: Now I’m fantasizing about Zooey Deschanel and a hang glider.
[0:58:08 – 0:58:10] Adam: Oh, that’s a nice thought.
[0:58:10 – 0:58:11] Erik: Wind’s laying down now again.
[0:58:11 – 0:58:13] Erik: Yeah, we had a little gusty morning.
[0:58:13 – 0:58:16] Adam: A little burst of wind coming in from the west, and now it’s kind of laying down again.
[0:58:16 – 0:58:18] Erik: Oh, we also had a boat experience.
[0:58:18 – 0:58:19] Adam: Yeah, we did.
[0:58:19 – 0:58:20] Adam: It was a quark walk.
[0:58:21 – 0:58:22] Erik: So we are under the assumption…
[0:58:23 – 0:58:25] Erik: Working assumption.
[0:58:25 – 0:58:27] Adam: It’s Okwakwa boats.
[0:58:27 – 0:58:29] Adam: They’re sweet boats.
[0:58:29 – 0:58:31] Adam: It looks like you could definitely go out and hunt a tuna in one of these.
[0:58:34 – 0:58:37] Erik: I think Mark Wahlberg was captaining that boat.
[0:58:38 – 0:58:39] Erik: I could see from here.
[0:58:39 – 0:58:41] Erik: I could hear him.
[0:58:41 – 0:58:41] Erik: Yes.
[0:58:42 – 0:58:45] Erik: The Canadian side of Lac La Croix, you can take tows.
[0:58:46 – 0:58:53] Adam: Apparently the tow lane is open now because I had emailed Kathy Zups before the trip and I said, is bottle portage open for tows?
[0:58:54 – 0:58:57] Adam: She said, no, you only can go to the west side.
[0:58:57 – 0:58:58] Adam: What’s the one on the west side?
[0:58:58 – 0:58:59] Erik: Snow Bay.
[0:59:00 – 0:59:02] Adam: Only Snow Bay is open.
[0:59:02 – 0:59:08] Adam: But she did say they’re expecting a ruling soon or a possible lifting of that closure.
[0:59:08 – 0:59:14] Adam: Which apparently has gone through because that old quack-quack went flying through here and somehow it didn’t make any noise.
[0:59:14 – 0:59:16] Adam: It must have like an 8-stroke 120 on the back.
[0:59:17 – 0:59:20] Adam: It was actually, it was oddly quiet.
[0:59:20 – 0:59:23] Adam: It was louder far away than it was up close.
[0:59:24 – 0:59:26] Adam: It was almost like you couldn’t hear it when it was right in front of us.
[0:59:26 – 0:59:32] Erik: Yeah, the reverberations of that engine, like when it was directly out in front of this site, like it was making very little noise.
[0:59:32 – 0:59:37] Adam: So these bozos paid 285 each to get dropped in a canoe down there.
[0:59:37 – 0:59:39] Adam: I didn’t even go all the way to the bottle portage.
[0:59:39 – 0:59:50] Adam: Meanwhile, smart guy one and smart guy two over here saved our 285, put it all in the bacon futures and just paddled out here like, you know, actually, you know, like true voyagers.
[0:59:51 – 0:59:51] Adam: Yeah.
[0:59:52 – 0:59:56] Adam: Uh, so, you know, that’s to each their own, but, uh, it seemed like a,
[0:59:57 – 0:59:58] Adam: It seems like it’s cheating.
[0:59:59 – 0:59:59] Erik: It does.
[0:59:59 – 1:00:03] Adam: I’d rather earn this site, though, the old-fashioned way.
[1:00:04 – 1:00:05] Erik: Yeah.
[1:00:05 – 1:00:09] Erik: There’s a feeling that comes along with the work involved, and we talked about it in the…
[1:00:10 – 1:00:13] Adam: You can’t get out to Lac La Croix and then just be on day one arms.
[1:00:13 – 1:00:15] Adam: You know, you got to get here and be chiseled steel.
[1:00:15 – 1:00:16] Erik: Chiseled steel.
[1:00:16 – 1:00:23] Erik: The Sig Olsen quote about the fly-ins and how that affected his relationship with the wilderness is the one that I think comes to mind.
[1:00:23 – 1:00:28] Erik: You know, it’s like you’re not, yeah, you’re in the wilderness, but you’re not of it when you do that.
[1:00:28 – 1:00:32] Erik: And I feel like, yeah, I was kind of, I got all worked up.
[1:00:32 – 1:00:34] Erik: Their names probably don’t look like this.
[1:00:34 – 1:00:35] Erik: No, they don’t.
[1:00:35 – 1:00:38] Erik: I was shaking my fist at the non-existent cloud and like,
[1:00:40 – 1:00:49] Erik: twisting my hat in my hands and… And then I was like, well, I’m never paddling SAG out to American Point ever again.
[1:00:49 – 1:00:53] Erik: So, you know, you got to kind of take it for what it is.
[1:00:53 – 1:00:55] Erik: Maybe these guys do it every year.
[1:00:55 – 1:00:56] Erik: And it’s like, yeah, we’ve done Lac La Croix.
[1:00:57 – 1:01:02] Erik: I’ve paddled it eight times and I don’t want to take my chances when you’re planning it six months out.
[1:01:02 – 1:01:05] Erik: Yeah, it’s nice and calm out here today, but you never know.
[1:01:05 – 1:01:06] Erik: So…
[1:01:06 – 1:01:28] Erik: but it seems like a process it’s a long way it’s a long boat ride even with a motor and there’s like a railroad portage there’s a railroad portage in between there and loon and the just that loon river and crane lake that’s like that’s almost as long as just lac la croix just on a river like they probably honestly left at like
[1:01:29 – 1:01:38] Adam: first light and then it took them three hours to get out here so then that person has to drive three more hours to get all the way back and that boat that’s a full day of work just for one toe that’s nuts
[1:01:39 – 1:01:43] Erik: Well, yeah, and that’s, I mean, I’m assuming that’s why it’s almost $300 a person to get all the way out here.
[1:01:44 – 1:01:44] Erik: Right.
[1:01:44 – 1:01:45] Erik: It’s crazy, though.
[1:01:45 – 1:01:54] Erik: Like, I don’t know how, I mean, maybe they have made a special exemption for it because, like, the border last I checked and Quetico were closed.
[1:01:55 – 1:02:00] Adam: So we did theorize it could have been government boys on a special assignment to go count geese meters.
[1:02:00 – 1:02:01] UNKNOWN: Yeah.
[1:02:02 – 1:02:05] Adam: We’re out here to study the beaks.
[1:02:06 – 1:02:08] Adam: I got a doctorate in beakology, Eric.
[1:02:08 – 1:02:09] Erik: It’s like moose, you know?
[1:02:09 – 1:02:12] Erik: They shed those beaks, and then you can…
[1:02:12 – 1:02:14] Adam: I think they more molt their beak.
[1:02:14 – 1:02:18] Erik: Could you imagine a beakless goose?
[1:02:18 – 1:02:20] Erik: Just a round-headed softie?
[1:02:20 – 1:02:23] Adam: The old beak peels off, then a fresh new beak’s underneath.
[1:02:23 – 1:02:24] Adam: That’s how it works.
[1:02:24 – 1:02:24] Adam: Snake skin?
[1:02:24 – 1:02:26] Adam: Yeah, it’s a molt more than a shed.
[1:02:27 – 1:02:34] Erik: Did you imagine living in a world where you were just…
[1:02:35 – 1:02:36] Erik: It would just be like a human face.
[1:02:37 – 1:02:39] Adam: Where the new beak’s going to grow.
[1:02:39 – 1:02:41] Erik: Oh, I can see his beak is kind of budding.
[1:02:41 – 1:02:42] Erik: Nice.
[1:02:42 – 1:02:48] Erik: Living in a world where at any time a goose is flying over, you could get hit with an exfoliated beak.
[1:02:49 – 1:02:54] Adam: When the goose’s beak is the size of a mouse’s ear, that’s when you’ve got to go for a lake trout.
[1:02:54 – 1:03:00] Erik: Yeah, just think of all the old wives’ tales that would be associated when the campsite’s packed with geese beaks.
[1:03:00 – 1:03:03] Adam: When a beak falls from the sky, you’ve got to make beak sandwiches.
[1:03:04 – 1:03:08] Erik: Yeah, when life gives you a goose beak, make beaconade.
[1:03:08 – 1:03:10] Adam: What was the sandwich again?
[1:03:12 – 1:03:12] Erik: Oh.
[1:03:12 – 1:03:13] Adam: Beak tea.
[1:03:13 – 1:03:13] Adam: Beak CLT.
[1:03:14 – 1:03:15] Erik: Yeah, now it’s a double B.
[1:03:15 – 1:03:17] Erik: Two B’s in the beginning.
[1:03:17 – 1:03:18] Erik: Beak, bacon.
[1:03:18 – 1:03:19] Adam: Cilantro.
[1:03:19 – 1:03:19] Erik: Yep.
[1:03:21 – 1:03:25] Erik: Well, we really got to the bottom of a lot on this track here.
[1:03:26 – 1:03:33] Erik: The chilled from the last night’s cool down, white zin, if you can’t tell, is back out.
[1:03:34 – 1:03:36] Erik: And the wind is laying down.
[1:03:36 – 1:03:40] Erik: We’re going to just have a nice, it’s going to be a beach party out there.
[1:03:40 – 1:03:41] Erik: Beach party for two.
[1:03:42 – 1:03:43] Adam: My hands feel good.
[1:03:43 – 1:03:44] Adam: My arms feel good.
[1:03:45 – 1:03:45] Adam: Let’s check in.
[1:03:46 – 1:03:47] Adam: My shoulders, they feel good.
[1:03:47 – 1:03:49] Adam: My back feels immaculate.
[1:03:51 – 1:03:54] Adam: My left heel is the only thing that’s sore in my entire body.
[1:03:55 – 1:03:58] Adam: So I think maybe by tomorrow I’ll achieve chiseled steel.
[1:03:59 – 1:03:59] Adam: Chiseled steel.
[1:04:00 – 1:04:03] Adam: For the run down the Packet Creek.
[1:04:03 – 1:04:04] Adam: Can you chisel steel?
[1:04:04 – 1:04:06] Adam: Yeah, you sure as heck can.
[1:04:07 – 1:04:08] Adam: All right.
[1:04:08 – 1:04:09] Erik: Yeah.
[1:04:09 – 1:04:12] Adam: I think they made this fire great, this sweet smith over here.
[1:04:13 – 1:04:20] Erik: Yeah, we’ll get to that when we finish up and review this beautiful campsite at the Lofty Pines.
[1:04:21 – 1:04:26] Adam: Let’s have a little more refreshments and do the dishes, and then maybe we’ll do the campsite review coming back at you.
[1:04:26 – 1:04:27] Erik: Yep.
[1:04:27 – 1:04:30] Erik: If you’re listening, Ellen Page and or Zoe Deschanel, confirm with us.
[1:04:31 – 1:04:32] Erik: Or Hillary Swank.
[1:04:32 – 1:04:33] Erik: Or Hillary Swank.
[1:04:33 – 1:04:36] Erik: Were you the pilot of the goose plane?
[1:04:36 – 1:04:39] Adam: Hit us up on Instagram, tumblehomecast.
[1:04:39 – 1:04:40] Adam: Let us know.
[1:04:45 – 1:04:47] Erik: What are we going to do with the little fishes?
[1:04:49 – 1:04:50] Erik: Catch big fishes.
[1:04:51 – 1:04:51] Adam: Yeah, that’s right.
[1:04:52 – 1:04:59] Erik: Yeah, I don’t know what it is about opening the mind out here in the park.
[1:05:00 – 1:05:02] Erik: I am currently standing on a fire grate, by the way.
[1:05:03 – 1:05:05] Erik: The boy in me is coming out.
[1:05:06 – 1:05:15] Erik: But we just realized in a conversation the best fishing movie of all time
[1:05:16 – 1:05:17] Erik: has been revealed to me.
[1:05:17 – 1:05:19] Erik: I think my final decision on that was…
[1:05:21 – 1:05:26] Erik: Yes, was originally the Life Aquatic, which has now been demoted down to two.
[1:05:26 – 1:05:27] Adam: Still my favorite.
[1:05:27 – 1:05:27] Adam: Sure.
[1:05:27 – 1:05:28] Adam: I’ll keep it as my favorite.
[1:05:28 – 1:05:30] Adam: We can’t have the same favorite fishing movie anyway.
[1:05:30 – 1:05:31] Adam: Does that make any sense?
[1:05:32 – 1:05:32] Adam: Yeah.
[1:05:32 – 1:05:33] Adam: We figured one out here.
[1:05:34 – 1:05:39] Erik: We figured it out because it’s, since high school, been my favorite movie of all time.
[1:05:39 – 1:05:42] Erik: And I don’t know how I dropped the ball on this.
[1:05:43 – 1:05:46] Erik: And it is not, yes, it is not a fishing movie.
[1:05:46 – 1:05:59] Erik: But a huge part of the movie does involve a crew of deranged misfits led by Jack Nicholson go out fishing and they slay.
[1:06:00 – 1:06:05] Erik: One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest is my favorite movie of all time and it is the best fishing movie of all time.
[1:06:05 – 1:06:06] Adam: I totally forget they fished.
[1:06:06 – 1:06:10] Erik: Yeah, there’s a huge fishing scene when he breaks them out, and they all go fishing.
[1:06:11 – 1:06:17] Erik: And just so he can, like, get together with that lady, and they all end up just going in circles on the boat.
[1:06:18 – 1:06:19] Erik: Oh, my God.
[1:06:19 – 1:06:20] Erik: I cannot believe that.
[1:06:20 – 1:06:25] Erik: I totally forgot about that fishing scene from One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest.
[1:06:25 – 1:06:26] Erik: Is…
[1:06:27 – 1:06:30] Erik: My new number one, let it be known, addendum.
[1:06:30 – 1:06:33] Erik: By the way, we are still on…
[1:06:33 – 1:06:37] Adam: The fishing on this campsite is not as good as one flew over to the cuckoo’s nest.
[1:06:38 – 1:06:38] Adam: No.
[1:06:38 – 1:06:39] Adam: We’re going to start the grade there.
[1:06:39 – 1:06:41] Adam: We’re going to start the grade there.
[1:06:41 – 1:06:42] Adam: It should have been amazing.
[1:06:43 – 1:06:49] Adam: But we got affected by some dementors in the night, and they took away all the fish from us.
[1:06:50 – 1:06:54] Adam: So the fishing wasn’t a very good grade, but every other aspect of this campsite has been amazing.
[1:06:55 – 1:06:56] Adam: Yeah.
[1:06:56 – 1:06:57] Adam: Standing on the fair grate.
[1:06:57 – 1:06:59] Adam: What do you think of this beautiful Smith Poundry?
[1:06:59 – 1:07:01] Erik: I mean, it’s A-plus across the board.
[1:07:01 – 1:07:02] Adam: This one’s in mint condition.
[1:07:02 – 1:07:06] Erik: It’s from top to bottom.
[1:07:07 – 1:07:08] Erik: A-plus campsite.
[1:07:08 – 1:07:13] Erik: I mean, I think we’ve talked about it enough over the course of some of the tracks that haven’t been specific.
[1:07:13 – 1:07:15] Erik: Landing A-plus.
[1:07:16 – 1:07:18] Adam: It’s a sand beach secret marina landing.
[1:07:19 – 1:07:24] Erik: The best part about the landing is we came up to the site and we were just like, oof, this is a sexy looking site.
[1:07:24 – 1:07:27] Adam: It was further over than you thought too, so we kept going.
[1:07:27 – 1:07:31] Adam: It felt like we were going around the corner for a good half hour trying to get to this thing.
[1:07:31 – 1:07:32] Adam: And we saw the…
[1:07:32 – 1:07:34] Adam: It is a huge rock slab like…
[1:07:34 – 1:07:37] Adam: The front end is all in its own right a fine landing.
[1:07:37 – 1:07:42] Erik: But then we came around that corner and then there’s just this little tiny notch of a sand beach.
[1:07:42 – 1:07:45] Erik: Corner of the eye to see a little beach sliver.
[1:07:45 – 1:07:45] Adam: Yep.
[1:07:45 – 1:07:46] Erik: Perfect.
[1:07:46 – 1:07:46] Adam: Saved it.
[1:07:48 – 1:07:50] Erik: Maybe a half loon bleep there?
[1:07:50 – 1:07:51] Erik: Nah, we’re fine.
[1:07:52 – 1:07:55] Erik: So, yeah, I mean, even if it didn’t have that sand beach, the landing would be…
[1:07:55 – 1:07:56] Adam: It’s got coarse sand, too.
[1:07:56 – 1:07:58] Adam: It’s a neat coarse sand beach.
[1:07:58 – 1:07:59] Adam: It’s not, like, super fine.
[1:07:59 – 1:08:02] Adam: It’s sand unlike any other I’ve ever seen out here.
[1:08:02 – 1:08:04] Erik: Yeah, it’s like a beige gravel.
[1:08:05 – 1:08:05] Adam: Yeah.
[1:08:06 – 1:08:07] Adam: It is almost a gravel beach.
[1:08:07 – 1:08:08] Adam: I love it.
[1:08:08 – 1:08:10] Erik: Super easy landing in and out.
[1:08:10 – 1:08:12] Erik: You could pump a bunch of canoes in there.
[1:08:12 – 1:08:17] Erik: You just have to kind of wait your turn and then extract the canoe and then next guy can come in.
[1:08:18 – 1:08:19] Erik: And then again, the…
[1:08:20 – 1:08:44] Adam: unlimited amounts of pine trees and like i was threatening this there’s just so much duff and nice pine needle down here that’s like a soft carpet i was threatening to sleep on the ground like a alaskan husky last night but i made the wise decision and a drunken wine stupor at the end of the night to actually throw the hammock up and it did take me a good 15 to 16 minutes somehow to put that hammock up
[1:08:45 – 1:08:46] Adam: Uh, but I got it up.
[1:08:47 – 1:08:53] Adam: It was a beautiful, and then you literally, you like said in the morning, like if you were to somehow not be able to get a hammock in here, you should get your hammock license revoked.
[1:08:53 – 1:09:00] Adam: Cause this is, there’s literally, you know, it’s like the scene in a beautiful mind at the chalkboard doing the equations.
[1:09:00 – 1:09:05] Adam: Like there’s unlimited 45 million different combinations of potential hammockery in here.
[1:09:06 – 1:09:06] Erik: Yeah.
[1:09:07 – 1:09:08] Adam: A plus on the hammockery.
[1:09:08 – 1:09:11] Adam: And then if you want a tent or just sleep on the ground, like a dog.
[1:09:12 – 1:09:14] Adam: The days of sniffing the dirt are over, Eric.
[1:09:14 – 1:09:14] Adam: Unlimited.
[1:09:14 – 1:09:17] Adam: This is the ultimate campsite for sky sleepers.
[1:09:17 – 1:09:17] Adam: Yeah.
[1:09:18 – 1:09:19] Erik: Sky sleepers.
[1:09:20 – 1:09:25] Erik: And I think the infrastructure speaks for itself.
[1:09:25 – 1:09:27] Erik: It’s A-plus just in that regard.
[1:09:27 – 1:09:30] Erik: And then you take into account the intangible.
[1:09:30 – 1:09:34] Erik: The direct northern exposure to Warrior Hill.
[1:09:35 – 1:09:49] Adam: the path of the skinwalker here for sure i’m not even sure i’m supposed to say that out loud but it’s true we’re in this line from this island to warrior hill to the pictos to the north um i’m sure there’s more pictos north of here that all line up with the same like
[1:09:49 – 1:10:17] Adam: uh longitudinal line yeah there’s a magnetic thing here i don’t even have a beak but i can detect it i slept with the the angle towards the line you did you were in that’s i think that’s why i feel a little bit better this morning i hung against the line i went against the grain and i probably got walked a little yeah a little skin walked your uh patronus wasn’t out in full effect yeah so then yeah i don’t even know what my patronus is yet this is something i need to discover and quickly
[1:10:18 – 1:10:40] Erik: yes you do uh god forbid we run into the dementors again uh but yeah just the the aura and the feeling like last night especially after the sun went down uh it just you could tell like there have been some there’s been movement through here and you can just feel it in your bones i had a dream i was old
[1:10:41 – 1:10:54] Erik: Yeah, and not to, again, for our personal reasons to go back and dwell on it, but we had a very sad conversation about how if the closer you get to the pictos, this… Time slows?
[1:10:54 – 1:10:57] Erik: The time slows down more, like… Time distortion…
[1:10:59 – 1:10:59] Adam: Pocket.
[1:10:59 – 1:11:01] Erik: Yeah, like that scene from Interstellar.
[1:11:01 – 1:11:06] Erik: But then we talked about how sad it would be to come home to our wives who had assumed we were dead.
[1:11:06 – 1:11:08] Adam: For 40 years and have moved on.
[1:11:09 – 1:11:09] Adam: Moved on.
[1:11:09 – 1:11:10] Adam: Where have you been?
[1:11:10 – 1:11:11] Adam: I was out four days.
[1:11:11 – 1:11:11] Adam: No.
[1:11:11 – 1:11:11] Adam: It’s been 40 years.
[1:11:11 – 1:11:13] Adam: This little maneuver is going to cost us 30 years.
[1:11:18 – 1:11:24] Erik: Yeah, and Adam was convinced he would just call it a life at that point and not get married again.
[1:11:24 – 1:11:26] Adam: I couldn’t, no.
[1:11:26 – 1:11:31] Erik: I think I could handle just being with a 70-year-old version of my current wife.
[1:11:31 – 1:11:32] Erik: I think I would be fine with it.
[1:11:32 – 1:11:35] Adam: Well, I thought the whole point was that we’d been gone song that they both had remarried.
[1:11:35 – 1:11:35] Adam: They remarried.
[1:11:35 – 1:11:37] Adam: Our wives had remarried and gone.
[1:11:37 – 1:11:38] Erik: All our wives.
[1:11:38 – 1:11:39] Adam: Both of them.
[1:11:40 – 1:11:42] Adam: Yeah, they had pulled a… Yeah, it’s not up to you at that point.
[1:11:42 – 1:11:45] Erik: Is it Helen Hunt from Castaway?
[1:11:46 – 1:11:47] Erik: Yeah.
[1:11:48 – 1:11:52] Erik: She’s a huge actress, and she is barely in that movie, but she’s Tom Hanks’ wife.
[1:11:53 – 1:11:54] Adam: He was only gone for like two years.
[1:11:54 – 1:11:56] Erik: Yeah, and she totally moved on.
[1:11:56 – 1:11:57] Adam: That’s a whole different story, yeah.
[1:11:58 – 1:11:58] Adam: I don’t know.
[1:11:58 – 1:12:03] Erik: But that was the sadness that filled me when we were having that conversation.
[1:12:03 – 1:12:07] Adam: Eric wasn’t prepared for that comment about the fragility of time.
[1:12:07 – 1:12:10] Adam: As I said at the beginning of this trip, time is an illusion.
[1:12:11 – 1:12:11] Adam: It still is.
[1:12:12 – 1:12:14] Adam: Do I have enough on my face?
[1:12:14 – 1:12:18] Erik: No, you’ve basically been rubbing sunscreen into the same spot now over and over.
[1:12:19 – 1:12:22] Adam: I’m not making the same mistake as yesterday.
[1:12:22 – 1:12:23] Adam: I got too much sun yesterday.
[1:12:24 – 1:12:26] Erik: I don’t think your skin can take any more lotion.
[1:12:26 – 1:12:27] Adam: Oh, it’s dry.
[1:12:27 – 1:12:29] Erik: It’s not going in anymore.
[1:12:29 – 1:12:30] Erik: It’s just piling on.
[1:12:30 – 1:12:32] Adam: Reptilian smooth brain over here.
[1:12:32 – 1:12:34] Adam: Put the lotion on your scales.
[1:12:35 – 1:12:38] Erik: Yeah, so this is a banger of a site.
[1:12:38 – 1:12:43] Erik: A-plus will definitely go down in the record books in my list of all-time faves.
[1:12:44 – 1:12:58] Adam: It’s crazy to think on another note on time, too, sitting here looking out at Warrior Hill for quite a while, all last night, and just to imagine ourselves from way back in the day climbing that thing with Paige May.
[1:12:58 – 1:12:58] Adam: Yeah.
[1:12:59 – 1:13:02] Adam: you can almost see them up there.
[1:13:02 – 1:13:03] Erik: Yeah.
[1:13:03 – 1:13:05] Adam: There’s like a faint glimmer of what we used to be.
[1:13:06 – 1:13:14] Adam: Yeah, maybe there’s another… We were looking down on this very site from the top, and now we’re here on this site looking back at the top of the hill in a different time?
[1:13:14 – 1:13:16] Adam: It feels so long ago.
[1:13:17 – 1:13:22] Erik: It feels so long ago, and just think, maybe there’s a 10 years in the future version of us paddling by this site right now.
[1:13:22 – 1:13:23] Adam: That’s what I like.
[1:13:23 – 1:13:26] Adam: That’s what I like, the future thought of…
[1:13:27 – 1:13:30] Adam: You know, time is a flat circle and an illusion.
[1:13:30 – 1:13:31] Erik: Back to Lac La Croix.
[1:13:32 – 1:13:33] Erik: But it is a beautiful day.
[1:13:33 – 1:13:38] Erik: The wind is, I think, doing what it’s going to do today, which is a light five out of the west.
[1:13:38 – 1:13:39] Erik: Northwest, mostly west.
[1:13:41 – 1:13:42] Erik: We’re going to get in the boat.
[1:13:42 – 1:13:47] Erik: We’re going to drag some lures through these mostly placid waters.
[1:13:48 – 1:13:52] Adam: I’m going with a Cisco Clio today to start.
[1:13:52 – 1:13:58] Adam: And then I got a couple select choice cuts for this evening that Natalie picked out for me.
[1:13:58 – 1:13:59] Adam: I’ll discuss those later.
[1:13:59 – 1:14:08] Adam: But I’m going with the Cisco Clio to start because I was reading in my limited research of this trip, there is three different kinds of Ciscos in Lac La Croix.
[1:14:09 – 1:14:09] Erik: Yes.
[1:14:10 – 1:14:12] Adam: And I found that super interesting.
[1:14:12 – 1:14:15] Adam: And so I brought that Cisco Clio just for this day.
[1:14:16 – 1:14:17] Adam: And I think it’s going to slam.
[1:14:18 – 1:14:23] Adam: Yeah, I’ve got the cold steel, hot steel, one or the other, X-Wrap.
[1:14:23 – 1:14:25] Adam: My flow is feeling good today, too.
[1:14:25 – 1:14:26] Erik: Yeah.
[1:14:26 – 1:14:27] Adam: I’m feeling a lot better now.
[1:14:27 – 1:14:28] Adam: You know, we had a nice breakfast.
[1:14:28 – 1:14:30] Adam: We’ve kind of slowly packed everything up here.
[1:14:31 – 1:14:33] Adam: Slowly is the key word there.
[1:14:33 – 1:15:01] Adam: measured yeah it’s a measured departure yeah you need this you need this no i’ve already been i’ve already sprayed myself yeah and uh yeah we’ll check back in with you on the lake plus on the campsite is that right a plus plus double plus a plus plus it’s like the teacher from a christmas story just keeps writing the plus he just keeps coming closer look at this guy get out of here you have anything to say what’s your name
[1:15:04 – 1:15:05] Erik: Is my Patronus a squirrel?
[1:15:06 – 1:15:07] Erik: I would hope not.
[1:15:07 – 1:15:08] Erik: A red squirrel.
[1:15:08 – 1:15:09] Adam: Get away.
[1:15:09 – 1:15:10] Adam: You don’t get any wine.
[1:15:10 – 1:15:13] Erik: Yeah, you would get swallowed up by a Dementor if that was your Patronus.
[1:15:15 – 1:15:16] Adam: Cute.
[1:15:16 – 1:15:16] Erik: Yeah.
[1:15:16 – 1:15:17] Adam: A++++.
[1:15:17 – 1:15:17] Adam: A++++.
[1:15:17 – 1:15:17] Adam: Yeah.
[1:15:17 – 1:15:20] Adam: We probably will keep the…
[1:15:27 – 1:15:33] Erik: The picto experience, as a personal one, we have extreme reverie for that.
[1:15:33 – 1:15:36] Erik: Yeah, the pictos are next, huh?
[1:15:36 – 1:15:39] Erik: Yeah, that’s just going to have to be a you thing, listener.
[1:15:40 – 1:15:43] Erik: The pictos are for the individual experience.
[1:15:43 – 1:15:45] Adam: You’ve got to paddle out here, actually, and you can’t see them if you take a toe.
[1:15:46 – 1:15:49] Adam: The pictos, they disappear if you take the motor in.
[1:15:49 – 1:15:50] Erik: Ooh, yeah, I like that.
[1:15:50 – 1:15:53] Adam: You get there by arm power and leg power alone.
[1:15:53 – 1:15:55] Adam: If you’re heeling a little tender by the time you get there.
[1:15:56 – 1:15:57] Adam: Did you really see them?
[1:15:57 – 1:16:00] Adam: They look different to everybody and it depends on how you get to them.
[1:16:02 – 1:16:03] Erik: Namaste.
[1:16:03 – 1:16:04] Adam: Namaste.
[1:16:42 – 1:16:42] Erik: Hi.
[1:16:44 – 1:16:56] Erik: You’ll never guess where we are, because it is not where we thought we would find ourselves at this moment in time.
[1:16:57 – 1:17:01] Erik: We’re no longer on the island across from Warrior Hill, we can assure you that.
[1:17:01 – 1:17:03] Erik: I know we had a long morning there.
[1:17:04 – 1:17:07] Erik: We were up for four hours and we still left before eight.
[1:17:08 – 1:17:09] Erik: Yeah, that was wild.
[1:17:11 – 1:17:12] Erik: We’ve had an amazing day.
[1:17:13 – 1:17:16] Erik: Um, God, it’s really been something.
[1:17:16 – 1:17:25] Erik: I really, if you did, if you didn’t know, and you’re just following, if you’re just following along, uh, let it be known, let it be known, um, that I love the boundary waters.
[1:17:27 – 1:17:36] Erik: Um, so if you haven’t figured that out and just want to clear the air there, uh, we’ve made our way from warrior hill one.
[1:17:38 – 1:17:44] Erik: Followed the nice east shore, basically what is Canada.
[1:17:44 – 1:17:45] Erik: Irving Island.
[1:17:45 – 1:17:46] Erik: Irving Island.
[1:17:48 – 1:17:59] Erik: And found ourselves under the overhang cliff wall and pictograph panel.
[1:18:00 – 1:18:02] Erik: which is always incredible.
[1:18:02 – 1:18:04] Erik: And I forgot about the handprints.
[1:18:04 – 1:18:08] Erik: The handprints really do it for me.
[1:18:10 – 1:18:13] Adam: There’s something haunting about those handprints.
[1:18:13 – 1:18:15] Erik: Yeah.
[1:18:15 – 1:18:17] Erik: I don’t know what to…
[1:18:17 – 1:18:20] Erik: I don’t know what it is, but it is something… You could…
[1:18:21 – 1:18:29] Erik: It could be a painting, the most incredible painting, highly detailed, like 3D painting, and it still would not be as…
[1:18:34 – 1:18:36] Erik: If you can’t tell, we are watching bobbers right now as well.
[1:18:37 – 1:18:39] Erik: One of them just bobbed a little.
[1:18:39 – 1:18:41] Erik: There’s something so…
[1:18:43 – 1:18:48] Erik: There’s some kind of a connection with just the simple handprint.
[1:18:48 – 1:18:49] Erik: Uh-oh, that one’s down.
[1:18:53 – 1:18:53] Erik: Now it’s back up.
[1:18:53 – 1:18:54] Erik: That’s down.
[1:18:58 – 1:19:00] Erik: Pizza biter in the mouth, walleye on the line.
[1:19:05 – 1:19:08] Erik: God, that was a suckling walleye for sure.
[1:19:09 – 1:19:09] UNKNOWN: Dang.
[1:19:11 – 1:19:13] Erik: Alright, back out.
[1:19:18 – 1:19:28] Erik: So yeah, the relaxed paddle under and amongst
[1:19:29 – 1:19:30] Erik: The pictographs.
[1:19:31 – 1:19:34] Erik: We found ourselves on an amazing sand beach.
[1:19:34 – 1:19:38] Erik: Maybe one of the finest sand beaches that we’ve experienced.
[1:19:38 – 1:19:39] Adam: It smelled amazing.
[1:19:39 – 1:19:39] Adam: It smelled great.
[1:19:40 – 1:19:40] Adam: What was it?
[1:19:40 – 1:19:42] Adam: It was these flowers, Eric.
[1:19:42 – 1:19:43] Adam: I don’t know what they were.
[1:19:43 – 1:19:44] Erik: What were those?
[1:19:44 – 1:19:47] Erik: Yeah, it was almost too much to…
[1:19:48 – 1:19:52] Erik: It was a sand beach and then just immediately on the other side of it was like more water.
[1:19:53 – 1:19:54] Erik: It was a really weird beach.
[1:19:54 – 1:19:56] Adam: It was kind of a lagoon set up here.
[1:19:57 – 1:19:58] Adam: Yeah.
[1:19:58 – 1:19:58] Adam: Um…
[1:19:59 – 1:20:01] Erik: It was a super relaxed day.
[1:20:01 – 1:20:16] Adam: We saw a lot of the main pictographs under the main cliff there that everybody stops at, but then we were kind of paddling along, and we found two other weird random ones in the side bay going to that beach, Eric.
[1:20:16 – 1:20:17] Erik: Yeah, we did.
[1:20:18 – 1:20:18] Erik: One that…
[1:20:19 – 1:20:20] Erik: Probably Doodney’s never heard of these.
[1:20:22 – 1:20:35] Erik: One was just like kind of a mishmash of red, but then there was definitely very clearly like we’ve determined that it’s a big wienered May Maguayzay.
[1:20:37 – 1:20:40] Adam: This is a May Maguayzay with his arms are up.
[1:20:40 – 1:20:45] Adam: So if the arms are up, that means he’s a May Maguayzay probably.
[1:20:45 – 1:21:09] Adam: and this one had a big big dong and then it was right above a cool cave and they are said to inhabit cave frontage uh if you see anything like that near a cave or a potential like crawl space like that and it went way back down in there you could see a long ways in there so that was a super powerful spot on the day i would say
[1:21:10 – 1:21:17] Erik: Yeah, it was an amazing start to the day on the water, under some of that stuff, and we had the opportunity.
[1:21:19 – 1:21:28] Erik: Based on the light winds, for the size of Lac La Croix, we were able to pretty much get away with whatever we wanted today.
[1:21:29 – 1:21:34] Erik: Spent a good amount of time just kind of basking in that area.
[1:21:35 – 1:21:42] Erik: And then threw down on some trolling operations through fish stake narrows.
[1:21:43 – 1:21:44] Adam: You got a couple of nice pike in there.
[1:21:45 – 1:21:46] Erik: Yeah, a couple of pike.
[1:21:46 – 1:21:48] Adam: X-Rap was slamming them.
[1:21:48 – 1:22:09] Adam: x-rap was slamming the pike through fish steak narrows and then i feel like it’s a slower approach you know like you’re just trolling real slow with the x-rap out the back i was casting out the front with the cisco flavored cleo nothing going on that fast cleo like retrieve but yeah uh the few fish we did manage to troll up were both on the slow troll approach
[1:22:09 – 1:22:09] Erik: Yeah.
[1:22:10 – 1:22:15] Erik: Yeah, actually, one was, like, when I was just about ready to, like, pull the line in, I, like, stopped paddling.
[1:22:16 – 1:22:21] Erik: And then, like, as I was, like, you went from that stopping to then moving again.
[1:22:21 – 1:22:24] Erik: Like, that’s a classic time for a strike to occur.
[1:22:25 – 1:22:26] Erik: I’ve had that happen so many times.
[1:22:27 – 1:22:28] Adam: I do it sometimes just when I’m reeling.
[1:22:29 – 1:22:29] Erik: Yeah.
[1:22:29 – 1:22:30] Adam: Just stop reeling for a one and a two.
[1:22:32 – 1:22:36] Erik: Especially with those X-Rabs because they just float.
[1:22:36 – 1:22:37] Erik: They don’t sink.
[1:22:37 – 1:22:39] Adam: It’s such a good trolling lure.
[1:22:39 – 1:22:41] Erik: It’s just the neutral buoyancy.
[1:22:41 – 1:22:42] Erik: Neutral buoyancy.
[1:22:42 – 1:22:47] Erik: So yeah, we had three campsites just at the mouth of the Pocket Creek
[1:22:48 – 1:22:53] Erik: in mind for a, uh, a staging for a run to gay Bay adequate.
[1:22:54 – 1:22:55] Erik: And boy, oh boy.
[1:22:55 – 1:22:56] Adam: Like a good plan to me.
[1:22:57 – 1:22:59] Adam: We, yeah, we got down there pretty early too.
[1:22:59 – 1:23:01] Adam: And we were like, Oh, I’m itching to get out of this boat.
[1:23:02 – 1:23:02] Adam: I want one of these.
[1:23:03 – 1:23:22] Erik: Yeah, we wanted one of them, and it’s, I mean, we had been paddling through Lac La Croix and going by just banger after banger campsite, just beautiful, big, open, breezy, piney, duff-laden, you know, just your classic Stu Osthoff with the jeans rolled up and the big T-bones.
[1:23:22 – 1:23:25] Adam: Stu Osthoff with the short, short jeans.
[1:23:25 – 1:23:26] Adam: Yeah, exactly.
[1:23:26 – 1:23:28] Adam: Daisy Dukes Osthoff.
[1:23:30 – 1:23:39] Erik: Cover the Boundary Waters Journal-esque campsites, and then all of a sudden we get to these three sites around the Pocket Creek exit.
[1:23:39 – 1:23:44] Adam: We’ll take one of these three and just call it a night, and then we’ll be fresh to go up the creek in the morning.
[1:23:45 – 1:23:47] Erik: Yeah, and all three of them were just junk.
[1:23:47 – 1:23:54] Erik: I’ve never run into such like just question mark plus after question mark plus slash like maybe an F plus.
[1:23:55 – 1:23:55] Erik: F minus.
[1:23:56 – 1:23:58] Erik: And so we stopped for a lunch.
[1:23:59 – 1:24:00] Erik: We were like, we just got to get out.
[1:24:00 – 1:24:01] Erik: We didn’t even stop at one of the campsites.
[1:24:01 – 1:24:06] Erik: We just stopped in, like, a nicer shoreline that was not one of the campsites.
[1:24:06 – 1:24:07] Adam: A nice rock shelf that should have been a campsite.
[1:24:08 – 1:24:08] Adam: Yeah.
[1:24:08 – 1:24:13] Adam: We just hung out there for a little bit and ate some nice car four-year cheddar.
[1:24:13 – 1:24:13] Adam: Mmm.
[1:24:14 – 1:24:15] Adam: And the sweet, sweet.
[1:24:16 – 1:24:18] Adam: Oh, yeah, the car valley four-year.
[1:24:19 – 1:24:21] Adam: Sweet, sweet salams.
[1:24:22 – 1:24:23] Adam: It was a nice lunch.
[1:24:23 – 1:24:24] Adam: We had to eat something.
[1:24:24 – 1:24:25] Adam: And we’re like, well, what are we going to do?
[1:24:25 – 1:24:27] Adam: I don’t know, sleep on one of these?
[1:24:27 – 1:24:30] Adam: Just go to that island with three trees on it?
[1:24:31 – 1:24:31] Adam: No.
[1:24:31 – 1:24:32] Erik: What are we going to do, Eric?
[1:24:33 – 1:24:36] Erik: We decided to make the run, and it was not even on the radar.
[1:24:36 – 1:24:46] Erik: We are on Pocket Lake, on the second to the last campsite on the west, on the north shore, on the mainland, not on the island.
[1:24:47 – 1:24:53] Erik: And it has turned into, yeah, we had all the intentions of a portage-free day.
[1:24:53 – 1:24:54] Erik: Yeah.
[1:24:54 – 1:24:55] Erik: We ended up doing one.
[1:24:55 – 1:24:59] Adam: After that lunch, I had to put my boots back on to protect my disabled toe.
[1:24:59 – 1:25:01] Adam: Yeah, well, let’s not talk about the toe.
[1:25:02 – 1:25:03] Adam: It’s not doing well.
[1:25:04 – 1:25:04] Adam: Let’s put it that way.
[1:25:04 – 1:25:05] Adam: We’ll say that.
[1:25:06 – 1:25:06] Adam: Yeah.
[1:25:06 – 1:25:07] Adam: Otherwise.
[1:25:07 – 1:25:10] Adam: You’re in the beyond dead toe club.
[1:25:11 – 1:25:13] Adam: Yeah, I got a ghost toe now.
[1:25:13 – 1:25:14] Erik: Yeah, yeah, that is a ghost toe.
[1:25:14 – 1:25:16] Adam: I had Eric just cut it off.
[1:25:16 – 1:25:20] Adam: I said, just chop that son of a bitch off with a hatchet.
[1:25:20 – 1:25:22] Erik: Yeah, you did sharpen the fillet knife, so.
[1:25:23 – 1:25:25] Adam: Yeah, we’re on Pocket Lake, and it’s amazing.
[1:25:25 – 1:25:28] Adam: For one, you only got to do one portage to get into Pocket Lake.
[1:25:28 – 1:25:30] Adam: I don’t know if that second portage is not there.
[1:25:30 – 1:25:32] Adam: You just paddle right in this sucker.
[1:25:32 – 1:25:32] Adam: It’s a beaut.
[1:25:32 – 1:25:35] Adam: I don’t know what that listing of a second portage is.
[1:25:35 – 1:25:40] Adam: Well, I think on the first portage, the beaver dam seemed a little higher and newer than usual.
[1:25:40 – 1:25:42] Adam: And actually, that first little portage was real wet, remember?
[1:25:43 – 1:25:43] Adam: Yeah.
[1:25:43 – 1:25:54] Adam: So I’m thinking that beaver dam is new, and so then it ended up, like, rendering the second portage mute but wetting the first portage, which I’m totally fine with.
[1:25:55 – 1:26:05] Adam: So we went into Pocket, and actually I had, like, a premonition about maybe we had to go to Pocket for some reason, and there’s an island site, of course.
[1:26:05 – 1:26:08] Adam: You know, we’re like, oh, we’re probably going to go for that island site then, I guess.
[1:26:09 – 1:26:10] Adam: We roll in here.
[1:26:11 – 1:26:12] Adam: Four straight stinkers.
[1:26:12 – 1:26:16] Adam: Can we pull up that island site and there’s grass growing through the grate?
[1:26:17 – 1:26:17] Adam: Explain that one.
[1:26:18 – 1:26:25] Erik: Yeah, you look at it from a map and it just kind of jumps off the page as something that should be nice.
[1:26:25 – 1:26:26] Adam: It’s not a very big island either.
[1:26:26 – 1:26:29] Adam: That’s usually groomed to profession.
[1:26:30 – 1:26:34] Erik: Usually if there’s a site on an island, it’s there because it’s a very nice spot.
[1:26:34 – 1:26:37] Erik: It doesn’t seem like it…
[1:26:37 – 1:26:38] Erik: It seems like it got forced in.
[1:26:39 – 1:26:40] Adam: I got to relocate this one here.
[1:26:40 – 1:26:42] Erik: You’re going to relocate your bobber?
[1:26:42 – 1:26:42] Erik: All right.
[1:26:43 – 1:26:47] Erik: Yeah, so it was a pretty quick investigation.
[1:26:48 – 1:27:03] Erik: We briefly paddled by it, but immediately when you come out on the pocket, you can see this slab of Canadian shield just kind of beckoning for a nice, easy… Yeah, that’s a beauty.
[1:27:03 – 1:27:05] Adam: It looks like poured creed out here.
[1:27:05 – 1:27:05] Adam: Yeah.
[1:27:07 – 1:27:08] Adam: It’s a real nice rock.
[1:27:08 – 1:27:09] Adam: Eric actually swam.
[1:27:10 – 1:27:11] Adam: I went in right away when we got in here.
[1:27:11 – 1:27:13] Adam: All of a sudden it was like crazy hot.
[1:27:13 – 1:27:23] Erik: Went from like kind of a little bit of a cool and misty and cloudy start to this trip to like when we got to this camp, it was all of a sudden it was like it felt like it was 90.
[1:27:24 – 1:27:26] Erik: And I was like, I’ll just dangle my feet in.
[1:27:26 – 1:27:29] Erik: And then five minutes later, I was like, well, that’s not enough.
[1:27:29 – 1:27:30] Erik: I need to go swimming.
[1:27:31 – 1:27:32] Erik: So I went in for a swim.
[1:27:33 – 1:27:34] Erik: And then you thought you were maybe going to swim.
[1:27:34 – 1:27:36] Erik: And then you just kind of went in for like a slight wade.
[1:27:37 – 1:27:39] Adam: Yeah, I was right on the edge.
[1:27:39 – 1:27:39] Adam: I was pretty hot.
[1:27:40 – 1:27:43] Adam: But, you know, I did a little wade and I splashed some water in my face.
[1:27:43 – 1:27:44] Adam: That seemed sufficient.
[1:27:45 – 1:27:48] Adam: You know, I didn’t bring any real backup clothes or a towel.
[1:27:48 – 1:27:51] Adam: So to jump in, it’s a real commitment.
[1:27:51 – 1:27:52] Adam: You pulled it off, though.
[1:27:53 – 1:27:53] Adam: You look good.
[1:27:54 – 1:27:54] Erik: I went for it.
[1:27:54 – 1:27:58] Erik: It was pretty much a right in and right out kind of a scenario.
[1:27:58 – 1:28:02] Adam: Yeah, it’s not a bad spot for jumping in here for sure.
[1:28:02 – 1:28:03] Adam: You got a nice rock for getting out.
[1:28:04 – 1:28:10] Adam: And, yeah, I was right on the edge because it was like for just briefly for 14 minutes it was 90 degrees here.
[1:28:11 – 1:28:11] Erik: Yeah.
[1:28:11 – 1:28:13] Adam: And I was like, nah, I’m not going to do it.
[1:28:13 – 1:28:15] Adam: And then immediately like a cloud came in and it cooled down.
[1:28:16 – 1:28:18] Adam: I was like, all right, I’m glad I just did the wade.
[1:28:18 – 1:28:19] Adam: Yeah.
[1:28:20 – 1:28:21] Adam: Then we got after the fishing though.
[1:28:21 – 1:28:24] Adam: And that’s the real story of today’s adventure.
[1:28:25 – 1:28:30] Adam: was we didn’t catch anything of consequence on the Lack La Chill.
[1:28:31 – 1:28:34] Adam: You know, and we caught a few bass and a little pike.
[1:28:35 – 1:28:41] Adam: And we’ve seen some dementors, but we didn’t really have… We got a few more pike today trolling, but…
[1:28:42 – 1:28:45] Adam: That one was probably keepable, that last one you caught.
[1:28:45 – 1:28:45] Adam: Sure.
[1:28:45 – 1:28:51] Adam: But, you know, Lac La Croix, you’re thinking, holy moly, like I’m thinking knife kind of fishing.
[1:28:51 – 1:28:55] Adam: Like every other, you know, you’re going to have bobbers down, fish on every other cast.
[1:28:57 – 1:28:58] Adam: It wasn’t the case with Lac La Croix.
[1:28:58 – 1:28:59] Erik: No.
[1:29:00 – 1:29:11] Adam: And so, you know, we brought the fish breading and we got off of it eventually because the campsites at the end where we wanted to stay were, you know, a little rough and we’re moving on.
[1:29:11 – 1:29:17] Adam: It’s like, wow, we really just left Lacroix with pretty much no fish to really speak of.
[1:29:18 – 1:29:19] Adam: which I was shocked by, you know.
[1:29:19 – 1:29:24] Adam: But we got here, though, and Eric immediately got into a couple nice bass.
[1:29:24 – 1:29:26] Adam: I was like, that’s a good sign, though.
[1:29:26 – 1:29:28] Adam: Like, it’s a nice little shelf here.
[1:29:29 – 1:29:32] Adam: And it’s always good to see the bobbers going down.
[1:29:32 – 1:29:34] Adam: I feel like that’s contagious when it comes to bobbers, you know.
[1:29:35 – 1:29:38] Adam: Once they start, one goes down, then the other one’s like, all right, I’m going to go, too.
[1:29:39 – 1:29:41] Erik: This is a proven technique.
[1:29:41 – 1:29:50] Erik: Yeah, this campsite is very tip-ripper-esque in terms of, like, the kind of sweeping, like, view from, like, east to west.
[1:29:50 – 1:29:54] Erik: Not nearly as much open water, but, like, the fishing is very similar.
[1:29:55 – 1:29:56] Erik: And we have, yeah.
[1:29:56 – 1:30:01] Adam: There’s, like, bass, bass, walleye, walleye, bass, walleye, walleye.
[1:30:01 – 1:30:07] Adam: No, that’s too many of each, but we started with some nice bass, and then we got two keeper walleyes.
[1:30:08 – 1:30:09] Adam: all of a sudden out of nowhere.
[1:30:09 – 1:30:14] Adam: So we’re actually three-fourths of the way to the Grand Slam now on the Team Grand Slam.
[1:30:15 – 1:30:15] Adam: Yes.
[1:30:16 – 1:30:18] Adam: So all we need is one more.
[1:30:18 – 1:30:22] Adam: We just need a lake trout at some point in the next day and a half, and we’re going to get that Grand Slam for this trip.
[1:30:23 – 1:30:27] Adam: Hoping for the oyster lake trout tomorrow and or the day after.
[1:30:27 – 1:30:29] Adam: These are nice-looking walleyes too.
[1:30:29 – 1:30:31] Erik: But they are like, yeah, I was up in the woods just like,
[1:30:31 – 1:30:58] Adam: dicking around like getting a little bit of extra birch bark and all of a sudden heck we had been catching a couple of bass you know and it was like oh bobber’s down eric’s back there doing something and i grabbed it it was like oh it feels pretty good i don’t know maybe it’s a nice another 16 inch somali and oh oh it’s a pretty nice one that one that first one’s probably you know 14 15 i was like yeah i don’t know it was hooked pretty bad too so i was like well we’re keeping this for sure i’m not throwing that back
[1:30:59 – 1:31:02] Adam: And then literally like 10 minutes after that, the other one went down.
[1:31:03 – 1:31:07] Adam: Actually, we had another one down right in the middle of that that probably was another one.
[1:31:07 – 1:31:08] Erik: Yeah, just happened to miss it.
[1:31:09 – 1:31:13] Adam: And then this other one was down, and that’s, Christ, that one’s probably 18, 20.
[1:31:13 – 1:31:19] Erik: Yeah, both of those are going to go towards almost a full dinner at this point.
[1:31:19 – 1:31:24] Erik: Originally, it was going to be just a little maybe potential snack.
[1:31:24 – 1:31:25] Adam: We still have three-quarter pound of butter.
[1:31:26 – 1:31:36] Adam: yeah and we have some breading and we do have some eggs saved yeah uh so we’re definitely frying these up oh my god they’re laying up there in the grass right now yeah
[1:31:36 – 1:31:47] Erik: We got a whole 10-foot beaver log that was up on shore around the corner that was leaning in a tree next to a pen.
[1:31:49 – 1:31:50] Erik: What was the pen?
[1:31:51 – 1:31:51] Erik: Mitchell?
[1:31:52 – 1:31:54] Erik: Some kind of a mercenary school?
[1:31:54 – 1:31:57] Erik: So if you’re listening and you left your pen out on…
[1:31:58 – 1:32:01] Erik: pocket, just tomohomecast at gmail.com.
[1:32:01 – 1:32:03] Erik: We will get you your pen back.
[1:32:03 – 1:32:08] Adam: Ever since we found the pen, we’ve been having crazy good luck on the bobbers, too.
[1:32:09 – 1:32:12] Adam: After we got in here, we did see one other group came through.
[1:32:12 – 1:32:14] Adam: We were like, we’re probably not going to see anybody the rest of the day.
[1:32:14 – 1:32:15] Adam: We haven’t seen hardly…
[1:32:16 – 1:32:19] Adam: We hadn’t seen anybody since, like, the motorboat, like, eight hours ago.
[1:32:19 – 1:32:19] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[1:32:19 – 1:32:35] Erik: And then… Like, we saw the motorboat that was doing a transport of a canoe, but then as we were going through Fish Steak Narrows, just, like, a straight-up, like, Negwagon 25D, like, reservation boat, just, like, with three dudes in it just went cruising through.
[1:32:35 – 1:32:39] Erik: Clearly on the American side, clearly illegal, but, like, whatever.
[1:32:39 – 1:32:40] Erik: I don’t know.
[1:32:40 – 1:32:41] Erik: I don’t know if it is.
[1:32:41 – 1:32:42] Erik: Maybe not.
[1:32:42 – 1:32:42] Erik: I kind of think it…
[1:32:43 – 1:32:44] Erik: Maybe they do.
[1:32:44 – 1:32:44] Erik: Maybe they do.
[1:32:44 – 1:32:45] Erik: And it was, I mean, whatever.
[1:32:46 – 1:32:47] Erik: It was like over and done with in a second.
[1:32:48 – 1:32:49] Erik: But it was kind of surprising.
[1:32:49 – 1:32:49] Erik: We’re like, what?
[1:32:49 – 1:32:51] Adam: We haven’t seen anybody since then.
[1:32:51 – 1:32:52] Adam: You know, that was like first lunch.
[1:32:53 – 1:32:53] Erik: Yeah.
[1:32:54 – 1:32:55] Adam: Desayuno.
[1:32:55 – 1:32:55] Adam: Yeah, so.
[1:32:56 – 1:32:59] Adam: And then we got all the way down there and had second lunch and then got in here.
[1:32:59 – 1:33:02] Adam: It’s like, we haven’t seen anybody in eight hours probably.
[1:33:02 – 1:33:05] Adam: We get in here, and we’re both sitting here.
[1:33:05 – 1:33:08] Adam: Eric was standing out here in his underwear.
[1:33:09 – 1:33:11] Adam: I bet we won’t see anybody the rest of the day.
[1:33:11 – 1:33:15] Adam: Literally a minute after you said it, there they come.
[1:33:16 – 1:33:19] Erik: They must have come up the Gabioniquet River.
[1:33:19 – 1:33:21] Adam: They weren’t behind us on lock.
[1:33:21 – 1:33:21] Adam: No way.
[1:33:22 – 1:33:28] Erik: No, we were chilling long enough in that area to have seen people coming from both directions.
[1:33:28 – 1:33:29] Erik: So they must have come up from the south.
[1:33:30 – 1:33:30] Erik: Crazy.
[1:33:30 – 1:33:32] Erik: We missed them by like 10 minutes on a creek somehow.
[1:33:33 – 1:33:33] Erik: Yeah.
[1:33:34 – 1:33:36] Erik: And then we can kind of see down to the west.
[1:33:36 – 1:33:39] Erik: I don’t think they’re at that other campsite, so they must have pushed on through the Finger Creek.
[1:33:40 – 1:33:41] Adam: Late run to Finger.
[1:33:42 – 1:33:43] Erik: Late run to Finger.
[1:33:43 – 1:33:44] Erik: Yeah.
[1:33:44 – 1:33:46] Erik: So I think I’m going to go ahead and call it.
[1:33:46 – 1:33:48] Erik: I think we’re the only ones on pocket.
[1:33:48 – 1:33:49] Erik: And it feels great.
[1:33:49 – 1:33:51] Erik: I did not anticipate us being out here.
[1:33:52 – 1:33:53] Erik: This is a great site.
[1:33:53 – 1:33:59] Erik: Got probably just enough wood to kind of get us through our dinner and evening.
[1:33:59 – 1:34:07] Erik: There’s been very little wood hogging, like plunging into the deeps of the woods to actually find firewood.
[1:34:07 – 1:34:08] Erik: So that’s always nice.
[1:34:10 – 1:34:12] Erik: And yeah, I think this is the end of…
[1:34:15 – 1:34:16] Adam: This episode.
[1:34:17 – 1:34:26] Erik: But before we go, we did have some comments online wondering what the over-under on pizza biters was.
[1:34:26 – 1:34:28] Adam: It’s important that we get to this information now.
[1:34:29 – 1:34:36] Erik: And I can tell you, because I was unaware when somebody asked what you had purchased in terms of pizza biters.
[1:34:36 – 1:34:41] Erik: So if you’re following along at home and wondering what the over-under was, I set it at 50%.
[1:34:42 – 1:34:46] Adam: Which is pretty solid, because that’s usually… That’s a big bag and another bag, usually.
[1:34:47 – 1:34:50] Adam: Yeah, but… That’s a large sack and a little sack.
[1:34:51 – 1:34:59] Erik: Yeah, but we also didn’t go to the typical pizza biter store.
[1:34:59 – 1:35:00] Erik: You just got…
[1:35:01 – 1:35:04] Adam: organic biters from the co-op.
[1:35:04 – 1:35:08] Adam: We got the fancy biters, and they only come in there in packs of 11.
[1:35:08 – 1:35:11] Adam: They come in packs in 11, and we got two boxes of them.
[1:35:11 – 1:35:19] Erik: So the official pizza biter count for this trip is 22, and there’s a couple of them over there right now cooling on a rock.
[1:35:20 – 1:35:22] Adam: I can’t wait to have the last couple biters.
[1:35:22 – 1:35:23] Adam: Yep.
[1:35:23 – 1:35:34] Adam: Yeah, it’s a little low on the usual biter count for us, but we made up for it in other ways with some various weird snackage and big boxes of ribs.
[1:35:34 – 1:35:35] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[1:35:35 – 1:35:36] Adam: And stuff are being brought out.
[1:35:36 – 1:35:38] Adam: So don’t worry, we’re not going to starve to death.
[1:35:39 – 1:35:43] Adam: But, yeah, lower than normal for our biterage, but they’re the best kind.
[1:35:44 – 1:35:45] Adam: And honestly, I think it’s impressive.
[1:35:46 – 1:35:53] Adam: I would end on this, that I would say it’s impressive that we’re still eating biters on night three of a very long trip.
[1:35:54 – 1:35:56] Adam: How did we not eat them last night?
[1:35:56 – 1:35:57] Adam: It was probably just because of the ribs.
[1:35:57 – 1:35:58] Adam: We had those ribs, so.
[1:35:59 – 1:36:00] Erik: There’s another half rack of ribs.
[1:36:01 – 1:36:02] Adam: We still have more ribs, too.
[1:36:03 – 1:36:06] Adam: We did well and walleye, so now we’re surfing, turfing.
[1:36:07 – 1:36:11] Erik: Ribs and walleye and pizza biters and there’s brats out there.
[1:36:11 – 1:36:14] Adam: We’re just going to every continent and every country at this point.
[1:36:14 – 1:36:15] Erik: Pretty much.
[1:36:15 – 1:36:18] Adam: It’s a tour de cuisine.
[1:36:19 – 1:36:21] Erik: Tour de cuisine out on Pocket.
[1:36:22 – 1:36:24] Erik: Boy, I never thought I would have ever found myself out on Pocket.
[1:36:25 – 1:36:25] Erik: It’s great.
[1:36:25 – 1:36:26] Erik: It’s beautiful.
[1:36:26 – 1:36:27] Erik: We’re slamming them out here.
[1:36:27 – 1:36:27] Adam: I love Pocket.
[1:36:28 – 1:36:28] Erik: Yep.
[1:36:28 – 1:36:29] Erik: Pocket.
[1:36:30 – 1:36:30] Erik: Packet.
[1:36:32 – 1:36:33] Erik: Potato, potato.
[1:36:34 – 1:36:35] Erik: For Tumble Home, this has been Eric.
[1:36:35 – 1:36:37] Erik: Thank you for joining us.
[1:36:37 – 1:36:42] Erik: We will be back, obviously, with Camp State Review and our…
[1:36:42 – 1:37:03] Erik: eventual departure and our thoughts and feelings on quebeyan i quit and oyster and hopefully oyster river clearing the board on a grand slam fishing experience i think the uh
[1:37:04 – 1:37:09] Erik: The three hard ones are out of the way, so it’s going to be a simple lake trout pickup.
[1:37:09 – 1:37:12] Erik: All we need is an easy laker at the end.
[1:37:12 – 1:37:12] Erik: Easy.
[1:37:12 – 1:37:13] Erik: An easy laker.
[1:37:13 – 1:37:21] Adam: I’m sure Oyster, we’ll send a message out ahead to Oyster tonight via the radio, but I’m sure they’ll get it.
[1:37:21 – 1:37:22] Adam: Yeah.
[1:37:23 – 1:37:24] Adam: Call them up.
[1:37:24 – 1:37:25] Adam: Put the fork in the ground.
[1:37:26 – 1:37:27] Erik: Put the fork in the ground.
[1:37:27 – 1:37:28] Adam: It’s the vibrations, man.
[1:37:28 – 1:37:30] Adam: All right.
[1:37:32 – 1:37:34] Adam: We got a loon to end the show.
[1:37:34 – 1:37:35] Adam: There’s a loon.
[1:37:35 – 1:37:37] Adam: Give us… What do you have to say there?
[1:37:41 – 1:37:41] Erik: Oh, thank you.
[1:37:42 – 1:37:50] Erik: That was very clearly the loon and not… Good night.
[1:38:39 – 1:38:46] Adam: In the course of this life, I’ve had a great many encounters with a great many people who have been concerned with matters of consequence.
[1:38:47 – 1:38:49] Adam: I’ve lived a great deal among grown-ups.
[1:38:50 – 1:38:55] Adam: I’ve seen them intimately, close at hand, and that hasn’t much improved my opinion of them.
