We will be back in the shed soon enough! In the meantime enjoy this classic Mitchum discussion from the mezzanine.
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[0:00:01 – 0:00:03] Erik: Mmm, back in the mezzanine.
[0:00:03 – 0:00:04] Erik: Welcome.
[0:00:05 – 0:00:08] Erik: Good evening, children.
[0:00:08 – 0:00:09] Erik: Come here, children.
[0:00:09 – 0:00:10] Erik: Come here.
[0:00:11 – 0:00:12] Erik: I wish I knew this.
[0:00:12 – 0:00:14] Erik: What’s the song he’s always singing?
[0:00:15 – 0:00:16] Erik: Leaning.
[0:00:17 – 0:00:18] Erik: Is it leaning?
[0:00:18 – 0:00:20] Erik: Leaning on Christ with that duet at the end.
[0:00:20 – 0:00:22] Erik: Yeah, wow, the duet.
[0:00:22 – 0:00:23] Erik: The orphanage lady.
[0:00:23 – 0:00:24] Adam: Beautiful.
[0:00:25 – 0:00:25] Adam: Mrs. Cooper?
[0:00:27 – 0:00:30] Erik: It’s the Night of the Hunter.
[0:00:30 – 0:00:32] Adam: Wow, wow, wow.
[0:00:32 – 0:00:35] Adam: Like we got to have a trombone with the mute in it.
[0:00:35 – 0:00:35] Erik: Yeah.
[0:00:36 – 0:00:36] Erik: Yeah.
[0:00:37 – 0:00:40] Erik: It’s the most disguised Christmas movie of all time.
[0:00:41 – 0:00:43] Adam: Oh, yeah, it’s a Christmas movie.
[0:00:43 – 0:00:44] Erik: Yeah, it’s a Christmas movie.
[0:00:44 – 0:00:45] Adam: Sure it is.
[0:00:45 – 0:00:49] Erik: In the nastiest part of Ohio or wherever the hell they’re at.
[0:00:49 – 0:00:50] Adam: Yeah, where do you think they are?
[0:00:50 – 0:00:51] Erik: Creesaps Bay.
[0:00:51 – 0:00:55] Erik: It’s like, yeah, no wonder the boat doesn’t stop anymore with a name like that.
[0:00:55 – 0:01:00] Erik: Fucking Uncle Bertie’s sitting there with his gin jug hanging off his lip.
[0:01:00 – 0:01:01] Adam: Dick out.
[0:01:01 – 0:01:04] Adam: God, Uncle Bernie, get it together.
[0:01:04 – 0:01:06] Adam: Falling out of your chair every night.
[0:01:06 – 0:01:07] Adam: Yep.
[0:01:07 – 0:01:09] Erik: If you ever need help, little boy, you just come running.
[0:01:10 – 0:01:12] Erik: Except for every night when I’m stone cold drunk.
[0:01:13 – 0:01:17] Adam: Except for after five, the business is closed.
[0:01:17 – 0:01:19] Adam: Night of the Hunter.
[0:01:19 – 0:01:20] Erik: How did this ever get on the list?
[0:01:21 – 0:01:23] Adam: Because I saw it in college.
[0:01:24 – 0:01:25] Adam: So I have seen it.
[0:01:25 – 0:01:29] Adam: I have seen this movie way back in the day, and I don’t know.
[0:01:29 – 0:01:32] Adam: It’s got a big river, a lot of river scenery.
[0:01:32 – 0:01:33] Erik: But did you put it on there, or was it a…
[0:01:33 – 0:01:38] Adam: This is my nomination from the first column, first…
[0:01:39 – 0:02:08] Adam: it’s like it was like the first seven or eight movies on the whiteboard night of the hunter first day we got the whiteboard it was that got put up there and i yeah i’ve only seen that one time but it was way back in the day and i just remember it being creepy as hell and pretty good and uh i think it’s i think it’s in like most of the reputable top 100 films of all time lists yeah i’m not gonna shout out anyone in particular but it’s
[0:02:09 – 0:02:27] Adam: very well regarded so much i think i i watched it in college because it was like part of like a film class or something sure i could see it part of my my degree my degree in communications from steven’s point your film i got to watch yeah this is a great example of film noir yeah and uh lighting
[0:02:28 – 0:02:50] Erik: yeah a lot so many things i mean 1955 like 55 so this is this came out after a year after yeah i mean and that’s like there’s something about like when people are uh you can’t watch old movies like just something i mean yeah if your old movie experience is uh the river of no return um
[0:02:50 – 0:02:51] Erik: I could see that.
[0:02:51 – 0:02:52] Erik: I couldn’t watch them.
[0:02:52 – 0:03:01] Erik: And that’s what they were mostly, not mostly like, in the grand scheme of movies over time, 90% of them are a river of no returns.
[0:03:01 – 0:03:09] Erik: You know, just like spit it out there, make some money, and no vision, no plot, just kind of plug and play, whatever.
[0:03:10 – 0:03:17] Erik: Put a fancy, whatever the lady is of the time, fancy handsome face, and then slap it out.
[0:03:17 – 0:03:17] Erik: That’s it.
[0:03:18 – 0:03:18] Adam: A couple songs.
[0:03:18 – 0:03:19] Erik: Yeah.
[0:03:19 – 0:03:19] Erik: Yeah.
[0:03:19 – 0:03:20] Erik: A couple of songs.
[0:03:21 – 0:03:21] Erik: It’s going to be great.
[0:03:21 – 0:03:22] Erik: We’ll make some money.
[0:03:22 – 0:03:24] Erik: It’s Hollywood baby films.
[0:03:24 – 0:03:24] Erik: Yeah.
[0:03:24 – 0:03:27] Adam: And then it’s like, I want to see this adventure.
[0:03:27 – 0:03:27] Erik: Yeah.
[0:03:27 – 0:03:31] Erik: And it’s like, well, I mean, have you actually tried to watch a good movie?
[0:03:32 – 0:03:35] Erik: Like when people say things like that, they’re like, Oh, I can’t black and white.
[0:03:35 – 0:03:36] Erik: I can’t do it.
[0:03:36 – 0:03:39] Erik: Or anything before 19, anything before Jurassic park.
[0:03:39 – 0:03:40] Erik: It’s like, what?
[0:03:41 – 0:03:41] Adam: That’s the cutoff.
[0:03:42 – 0:03:42] Erik: Yeah.
[0:03:42 – 0:03:45] Erik: I literally know people in my life that are like, no, I can’t.
[0:03:45 – 0:03:46] Erik: I just can’t do it.
[0:03:47 – 0:03:47] Erik: I mean, I get it.
[0:03:47 – 0:03:48] Erik: Life’s short.
[0:03:48 – 0:03:52] Erik: I’m not going to hold a gun to your head and force you to watch a movie.
[0:03:52 – 0:03:53] Erik: It’s not that big of a deal.
[0:03:53 – 0:03:58] Adam: Don’t hold a tiny little switchblade to their head and make them watch the movie, though.
[0:03:58 – 0:03:59] Erik: Or a massive shotgun.
[0:03:59 – 0:04:01] Adam: You are a big old blaster.
[0:04:01 – 0:04:02] Adam: You’re a big old blaster.
[0:04:03 – 0:04:03] Erik: Yeah.
[0:04:03 – 0:04:03] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:04:03 – 0:04:09] Erik: There’s so many good examples where it just, I’ve gotten to the point in my life where I care even less.
[0:04:09 – 0:04:16] Erik: You know, you’ve got that, I think, trajectory that most people have where, you know, you’re in your 20s, even 30s at some point where you’re just like,
[0:04:16 – 0:04:37] Erik: these are the things i like and you’re grabbing people by their neck and be like like it too you have to like this because i like it why don’t you like it if you don’t like it you’re crazy you just don’t care you’re just like if you fucking find it and you like it awesome then we can talk about it but i’m done trying to be like hey have you seen this you should watch this two weeks later yeah whatever you didn’t watch it okay that’s fine
[0:04:38 – 0:04:44] Adam: Well, I hope people, anybody listening to the Patreon that hasn’t seen this will go and watch it.
[0:04:44 – 0:04:45] Erik: Well, yeah.
[0:04:45 – 0:04:47] Erik: That’s not to say that I still won’t make recommendations.
[0:04:47 – 0:04:50] Erik: I just don’t care as much when people are like, nah, I didn’t see it.
[0:04:50 – 0:04:51] Adam: Yeah, right.
[0:04:51 – 0:04:52] Erik: It’s like, well, whatever.
[0:04:52 – 0:04:53] Erik: That’s fine.
[0:04:53 – 0:04:53] Erik: You didn’t see it.
[0:04:53 – 0:04:54] Erik: Your loss.
[0:04:54 – 0:05:02] Erik: Yeah, I mean, honestly, we could go through, at some point, whenever we’re all done with this, I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen.
[0:05:02 – 0:05:05] Erik: I could just do TCCs for the rest of my life, honestly.
[0:05:06 – 0:05:07] Erik: There’s a lot of film.
[0:05:07 – 0:05:08] Adam: Yeah.
[0:05:08 – 0:05:09] Adam: There’s a lot of films left in the mezzanine.
[0:05:09 – 0:05:14] Erik: Hey, maybe we should start, nobody’s ever thought of this, just start a full-blown podcast talking about movies.
[0:05:14 – 0:05:15] Erik: Just movies.
[0:05:15 – 0:05:15] Erik: Just movies.
[0:05:16 – 0:05:16] Erik: Is there one?
[0:05:17 – 0:05:19] Adam: I don’t think there’s any podcast that do that.
[0:05:19 – 0:05:20] Adam: So we just watch the movie.
[0:05:21 – 0:05:21] Adam: Well, there is.
[0:05:21 – 0:05:23] Adam: It’s called Tim Holm Cinema Classics.
[0:05:23 – 0:05:25] Adam: There’s over 100 episodes at this point.
[0:05:25 – 0:05:27] Adam: We just need to make it available for everyone.
[0:05:27 – 0:05:28] Adam: And we didn’t do Cutting Edge.
[0:05:29 – 0:05:29] UNKNOWN: We didn’t.
[0:05:30 – 0:05:34] Erik: Apparently, we talked about it so much that I was convinced we did it.
[0:05:34 – 0:05:35] Erik: I was convinced I watched it.
[0:05:38 – 0:05:42] Adam: I’m convinced we watched that McDonald’s movie about Grimace.
[0:05:43 – 0:05:43] Adam: What?
[0:05:43 – 0:05:48] Adam: The Grimace origin story of a McDonald’s movie, but it’s only on VHS tape.
[0:05:48 – 0:05:50] Adam: You got to buy them off of eBay every once in a while.
[0:05:50 – 0:05:52] Erik: Oh, I thought you were talking about the one.
[0:05:52 – 0:05:56] Adam: But I’m still convinced we saw it, even though it’s the rarest movie in all of the cinema.
[0:05:56 – 0:05:59] Erik: I thought you were talking about Founder with Michael Keaton for a second.
[0:05:59 – 0:06:01] Erik: That was like the McDonald’s movie.
[0:06:01 – 0:06:02] Erik: Why would we ever do that?
[0:06:02 – 0:06:03] Erik: Super Size Me.
[0:06:04 – 0:06:06] Adam: I was talking about Super Size Me.
[0:06:06 – 0:06:06] Erik: That guy just died.
[0:06:06 – 0:06:07] Erik: Did you know that?
[0:06:08 – 0:06:08] Erik: Morgan Spurlock?
[0:06:08 – 0:06:09] Adam: He’s dead?
[0:06:09 – 0:06:10] Adam: He died.
[0:06:10 – 0:06:12] Adam: He found Osama Bin Laden.
[0:06:12 – 0:06:13] Adam: Somebody was going to get him for that.
[0:06:15 – 0:06:17] Erik: I’m pretty sure they put a hit on him.
[0:06:17 – 0:06:19] Erik: He made the CIA look bad.
[0:06:19 – 0:06:22] Adam: I’m being real.
[0:06:22 – 0:06:24] Adam: He found Osama Bin Laden.
[0:06:24 – 0:06:25] Adam: Did you see that one?
[0:06:27 – 0:06:28] SPEAKER_00: The documentary?
[0:06:28 – 0:06:28] SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
[0:06:28 – 0:06:29] Adam: I get what you’re saying.
[0:06:29 – 0:06:32] Adam: He didn’t actually find them, but he basically predicted exactly where they later found them.
[0:06:32 – 0:06:33] Adam: Yeah, sure.
[0:06:33 – 0:06:35] Erik: Like, based on his movie making.
[0:06:35 – 0:06:36] Erik: So he got bowinged.
[0:06:37 – 0:06:38] Erik: I’m nodding.
[0:06:38 – 0:06:39] Erik: That’s a verb.
[0:06:39 – 0:06:42] Adam: I’m not going to acknowledge that with words, but I am nodding.
[0:06:42 – 0:06:43] Erik: Yeah.
[0:06:43 – 0:06:48] Erik: A man not named Adam is now currently nodding at me.
[0:06:48 – 0:06:57] Erik: But what I was saying is it would be fun to eventually go through and not rank all of them, but just see what were some of the better movies.
[0:06:57 – 0:06:59] Erik: This has got to be in probably the top five or six.
[0:06:59 – 0:07:01] Adam: As far as actually good movies?
[0:07:01 – 0:07:02] Adam: Actually good movies.
[0:07:02 – 0:07:04] Adam: Yeah, we don’t pick actually good movies very often.
[0:07:04 – 0:07:06] Erik: There’s a few of our favorites we did right away.
[0:07:06 – 0:07:10] Erik: We did Zissou and Lebowski and stuff like that.
[0:07:10 – 0:07:13] Erik: But even those are just near and dear to my heart.
[0:07:13 – 0:07:21] Erik: But in terms of just pure… Obviously, there’s probably a class somewhere that’s teaching…
[0:07:21 – 0:07:40] Erik: maybe like some Wes Anderson films or Coen brothers, but like across the board, like this is very easy, very easy to see why it’s like a show this to show certain examples of developments in film, filmmaking, storytelling.
[0:07:40 – 0:07:42] Erik: That’s not what you would typically see, uh,
[0:07:44 – 0:07:51] Erik: So many things in this movie were just like, man, could you imagine being a moviegoer in 1955?
[0:07:51 – 0:07:52] Erik: And seeing this.
[0:07:52 – 0:07:53] Erik: And going to see this.
[0:07:53 – 0:07:57] Erik: After you just got done last weekend, going to see The River of No Return.
[0:07:58 – 0:08:00] Adam: Yeah, you’re just doing river movies this whole summer.
[0:08:00 – 0:08:01] Erik: What the hell did I just see?
[0:08:01 – 0:08:03] Erik: Like, scared shitless, probably.
[0:08:04 – 0:08:17] Adam: yeah I was like anxious the whole time even though I know you know I’ve seen it yeah I was still anxious the whole time watching it last night I was up pretty late watching this thing my favorite one of my favorite lines many I have many um
[0:08:19 – 0:08:21] Erik: Doesn’t he ever sleep?
[0:08:21 – 0:08:23] Erik: Doesn’t he ever sleep?
[0:08:24 – 0:08:25] Adam: He’s just riding across the horizon.
[0:08:26 – 0:08:28] Erik: Man, the cinematography is incredible.
[0:08:28 – 0:08:29] Erik: The way that they shoot.
[0:08:29 – 0:08:30] Adam: That kid’s actually a pretty good actor.
[0:08:31 – 0:08:33] Erik: I usually don’t like movies.
[0:08:33 – 0:08:35] Erik: I don’t mind when kids are in movies.
[0:08:35 – 0:08:35] Erik: Yeah.
[0:08:35 – 0:08:36] Erik: But when he’s like…
[0:08:36 – 0:08:36] Erik: He’s a lead.
[0:08:36 – 0:08:38] Erik: He’s a borderline lead.
[0:08:38 – 0:08:38] Erik: Yeah.
[0:08:39 – 0:08:40] Erik: Does an okay job.
[0:08:40 – 0:08:41] Erik: He’s the kid.
[0:08:42 – 0:08:42] Erik: For a kid.
[0:08:42 – 0:08:42] Erik: He’s the kid.
[0:08:42 – 0:08:43] Erik: Does an amazing job.
[0:08:44 – 0:08:44] Erik: But…
[0:08:46 – 0:08:49] Adam: Yeah, like he’s really good with like nonverbal acting too.
[0:08:50 – 0:08:55] Adam: Just very like accomplished as far as just conveying a mood with a face.
[0:08:56 – 0:08:56] Adam: Yeah.
[0:08:56 – 0:08:57] Adam: Like just a look.
[0:08:57 – 0:08:58] Adam: Yeah.
[0:08:58 – 0:08:59] Adam: There’s something about that kid.
[0:08:59 – 0:09:03] Adam: I wonder what that kid must have went into like a successful acting career.
[0:09:04 – 0:09:04] Adam: Yeah.
[0:09:04 – 0:09:05] Adam: I didn’t look anything up about this.
[0:09:06 – 0:09:28] Adam: this being said yeah i didn’t like go watch a bunch of videos on why it’s a great movie or like anything like that uh well i mean i don’t know anything on the background of this or really anything else no i don’t know i just watched it last night that’s what i know and i’m not speaking from like any kind of like a i didn’t watch anything i had never watched it in college i never actually even get the i wish like honestly uh the one thing i missed out on
[0:09:29 – 0:09:52] Erik: college was sticking around long enough to take advantage of maybe some extracurricular classes like that you know some of the yeah what do they call those electives yeah take a class that was probably like a 300 level like film class i want to say somehow but you know i’ve seen enough movies i’m not saying that i’m i’m no slouch and sell yourself short you’re an incredible slouch
[0:09:53 – 0:09:54] Erik: You can just tell it’s a good movie.
[0:09:54 – 0:09:56] Erik: I was entertained the whole time.
[0:09:56 – 0:09:57] Erik: I was interested in the story.
[0:09:57 – 0:09:58] Erik: Like, that’s really all it takes for me.
[0:09:58 – 0:10:13] Erik: But you could, like, I mean, just the way that they shot interiors, the way that the, I mean, there’s probably so many levels that still go way above my head as to, like, you know, I remember the first time I saw Citizen Kane because it was like, it’s the movie.
[0:10:13 – 0:10:14] Erik: You gotta watch it.
[0:10:14 – 0:10:15] Erik: I was like, eh, I don’t know.
[0:10:15 – 0:10:21] Erik: And then after I watched, like, 250 other movies 10 years later and I went back and rewatched it and then, like,
[0:10:22 – 0:10:22] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:10:22 – 0:10:27] Erik: It’s hard for a lot of people, I think, to put it in the frame, which I guess some people don’t care about that.
[0:10:27 – 0:10:37] Erik: But of like when it came out to put yourself in the 50s and like some of the things that they were doing with the camera in that movie and in this movie, you’re just like.
[0:10:37 – 0:10:45] Adam: I wasn’t even impressed with the flying camera over the town shots that they had, clearly on a rickety old biplane or something.
[0:10:45 – 0:10:47] Adam: Yeah, the first helicopter.
[0:10:47 – 0:10:52] Adam: I mean, I’m sure that was mind-blowing at the time, like an aerial shot of the town.
[0:10:52 – 0:10:54] Erik: The kids playing hide and go seek in the beginning.
[0:10:54 – 0:10:55] Erik: Yeah.
[0:10:55 – 0:10:58] Erik: Or like the superimposed like space children in the beginning.
[0:10:58 – 0:10:58] Erik: Who knows?
[0:10:58 – 0:10:59] Erik: Like… Yeah.
[0:10:59 – 0:11:00] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:11:00 – 0:11:03] Erik: You can even go back to some of the really early stuff like the…
[0:11:04 – 0:11:04] Adam: There’s the one…
[0:11:04 – 0:11:06] Adam: The superimposed space children.
[0:11:06 – 0:11:07] Adam: Yeah.
[0:11:07 – 0:11:08] Adam: I know exactly what you meant.
[0:11:08 – 0:11:08] Erik: Yeah.
[0:11:08 – 0:11:10] Erik: That’s like the first image of the movie.
[0:11:10 – 0:11:10] Erik: Yeah.
[0:11:10 – 0:11:13] Erik: That doesn’t seem like you were seeing that every day on a movie.
[0:11:13 – 0:11:15] Erik: I mean, it’s 1955.
[0:11:15 – 0:11:18] Erik: It wasn’t like the dawn of cinema, but it still was…
[0:11:19 – 0:11:25] Erik: there was definitely some things in this movie and even just attention to detail, just the way that things were centered in frame.
[0:11:25 – 0:11:38] Erik: There was like a lot of shots that was just like, definitely reminded me of like a, like a Wes Anderson shot, like the murder scene when she’s upstairs in the bed and the way that the house is like all cornered and angular with the black.
[0:11:38 – 0:11:43] Adam: It was just like, damn the way she, when she’s under the water, each like shot for sure.
[0:11:43 – 0:11:43] Adam: Yeah.
[0:11:43 – 0:11:45] Adam: I’d love to see the storyboards for this.
[0:11:45 – 0:11:45] Erik: Yeah.
[0:11:46 – 0:11:49] Erik: That’s my first note is the little space children learning about Jesus.
[0:11:49 – 0:11:51] Erik: I was like, what is this?
[0:11:52 – 0:11:59] Adam: My only real complaint is like the amount of times the characters are just like out loud talking to God or whatever.
[0:11:59 – 0:12:00] Adam: There’s a lot of that.
[0:12:00 – 0:12:02] Adam: Or praying to whoever.
[0:12:02 – 0:12:19] Adam: seems very like like to share their thoughts yeah you know it’s like this is a little cheap but like whatever that’s my if that’s my real my only real complaint with the film like that’s fine yeah i can handle it i think it’s probably taking place in a part of the country that’s just like
[0:12:20 – 0:12:21] Adam: Everybody in the movie is super…
[0:12:21 – 0:12:23] Erik: Built into the community.
[0:12:23 – 0:12:24] Erik: That’s the culture.
[0:12:24 – 0:12:25] Erik: It’s the only thing they have in their lives.
[0:12:26 – 0:12:26] Erik: Right.
[0:12:26 – 0:12:32] Erik: If you lived on whatever that fucking skunk river or whatever that was, what else would you have?
[0:12:32 – 0:12:37] Erik: Put on the Icy’s… Whatever her shop was.
[0:12:37 – 0:12:38] Erik: What was her shop?
[0:12:39 – 0:12:40] Erik: Spoons?
[0:12:40 – 0:12:42] Erik: Icy’s Spoons Shop?
[0:12:42 – 0:12:44] Adam: It’s the… Yeah, it’s the parlor.
[0:12:45 – 0:12:45] Erik: Just the parlor.
[0:12:46 – 0:12:46] UNKNOWN: It’s the…
[0:12:48 – 0:13:08] Erik: the fudge parlor eric yeah i mean it’s poons fudge parlor on maine on maine it’s very it’s right on maine you can’t miss it i mean everybody’s like very like fundamental and like yeah you if you look at it from like a little bit more of a progressive like 21st century lens it’s really easy to question like
[0:13:08 – 0:13:37] Erik: yeah why the fuck would you trust this like strange preacher just traipsing into town and but it was like yeah and there’s so many things even at the end even at the end the the orphanage lady i mean she sniffs him out pretty quick but even she’s like yeah respect your father for a second because she thinks he’s his dad and like yeah that’s just that was the 50s like and that was religious i mean i didn’t live in that time in that place i’m sure there was other people who had differing viewpoints but the vast majority of people like
[0:13:38 – 0:13:39] Erik: But I get what you’re saying.
[0:13:39 – 0:13:41] Erik: A lot of times it was like, all right, Jesus again.
[0:13:41 – 0:13:41] Erik: We get it.
[0:13:42 – 0:13:46] Erik: And that’s just the way a lot of exposition was being explained.
[0:13:46 – 0:13:49] Adam: I’m more okay with reading the scripture to the children.
[0:13:49 – 0:13:51] Adam: Like, okay, at least that makes a little more sense.
[0:13:51 – 0:13:53] Adam: You’re like reading them a story or whatever.
[0:13:54 – 0:13:56] Adam: But yeah, a lot of scripture.
[0:13:56 – 0:13:57] Adam: I don’t know my scripture very well.
[0:13:57 – 0:13:57] Adam: Do you?
[0:13:58 – 0:14:04] Erik: No, sometimes with movies like this, I wish I did, but then as soon as it’s over, it’s just like, eh, I’m not going to.
[0:14:04 – 0:14:04] Adam: I got the gist.
[0:14:05 – 0:14:05] Erik: Yeah.
[0:14:06 – 0:14:07] Erik: Yeah, I don’t need to know, though.
[0:14:07 – 0:14:08] Erik: I’m not going to read the Bible.
[0:14:08 – 0:14:10] Adam: I’m not going to go back and read the Old Testament.
[0:14:10 – 0:14:11] Erik: Oh, God, no.
[0:14:11 – 0:14:11] Adam: Jesus.
[0:14:11 – 0:14:12] Adam: No.
[0:14:13 – 0:14:13] Adam: You’ve said it, man.
[0:14:14 – 0:14:14] Erik: Yeah.
[0:14:15 – 0:14:19] Adam: I got some shout outs at the top since they did the credits in reverse.
[0:14:19 – 0:14:19] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:14:19 – 0:14:21] Adam: One of my gripes with old movies.
[0:14:21 – 0:14:21] Adam: Yeah.
[0:14:21 – 0:14:26] Adam: Not particular to this movie is like the full like five minutes of credits rolling at the beginning.
[0:14:26 – 0:14:26] Adam: Yeah.
[0:14:27 – 0:14:27] Adam: So shout out.
[0:14:27 – 0:14:30] Adam: This is based on the novel by Davis Grubb.
[0:14:31 – 0:14:33] Adam: I never heard of Davis Grubb before.
[0:14:33 – 0:14:33] Erik: No.
[0:14:34 – 0:14:36] Adam: And a hairstylist, Kay Shea.
[0:14:36 – 0:14:37] Erik: Okay.
[0:14:37 – 0:14:39] Adam: Way to go with those hairstyles.
[0:14:39 – 0:14:39] Adam: Yep.
[0:14:39 – 0:14:41] Adam: A lot of good hairstyles in this one.
[0:14:41 – 0:14:42] Adam: I guess.
[0:14:42 – 0:14:46] Adam: Got to make it look like these kids have been starving on a river for three days.
[0:14:47 – 0:14:49] Erik: Yeah, lots of tussled hair by Kay.
[0:14:51 – 0:14:56] Adam: And then done up again when we make it back to the town, Perryville or whatever.
[0:14:56 – 0:14:59] Adam: I swam upstream from Perryville.
[0:14:59 – 0:15:05] Adam: You know, it is a dumpy looking river, but then at one point when he finds the car with the lady in it.
[0:15:05 – 0:15:06] Adam: It looks kind of nice.
[0:15:06 – 0:15:08] Adam: Well, it does, and it looks crystal clear.
[0:15:08 – 0:15:13] Adam: You think you’re in a vento lake looking down and seeing a murder scene.
[0:15:13 – 0:15:16] Erik: Yeah, you think old Harry Powell would have been a little smarter about his high job there.
[0:15:16 – 0:15:21] Erik: What would he have done if somebody would have actually seen it who wasn’t a horrible drunk?
[0:15:21 – 0:15:21] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:15:22 – 0:15:22] Erik: She crashed.
[0:15:22 – 0:15:24] Adam: Yeah, I think that was the deal.
[0:15:24 – 0:15:26] Adam: She’s crashed, but she’s, you know.
[0:15:26 – 0:15:27] Adam: He could see the slit in her throat, though.
[0:15:28 – 0:15:29] Adam: Like her mouth was, what was it?
[0:15:30 – 0:15:31] Erik: She had a second mouth.
[0:15:31 – 0:15:32] Erik: Oh, yeah, yeah.
[0:15:33 – 0:15:38] Adam: Yeah, I didn’t see that, but that wasn’t, like, that evident, like, the flowing underwater scene.
[0:15:38 – 0:15:40] Adam: Like, how did they shoot that in the 50s?
[0:15:40 – 0:15:41] Adam: That was incredible.
[0:15:41 – 0:15:46] Erik: That must have been, like, an overlay of, like, another shot or something, or maybe they actually had a car underwater.
[0:15:46 – 0:15:47] Erik: In a tank?
[0:15:47 – 0:15:48] Erik: Yeah, maybe a tank.
[0:15:48 – 0:15:53] Adam: With, like, a really, like, very, like, well-done mannequin and a corpse.
[0:15:53 – 0:15:58] Erik: I mean, I think the only real special effects, and I don’t know, I don’t know.
[0:15:58 – 0:15:59] Erik: The only special effects?
[0:15:59 – 0:16:16] Erik: Well, the only real special effects that I thought were noticeably bad, and these special effects have been noticeably bad in 99.9% of movies up until like, I don’t know, 10, 15 years ago, and that’s just rear projection driving shit.
[0:16:17 – 0:16:17] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:16:18 – 0:16:21] Erik: It’s just like Mitchum driving, and it’s just like, what the hell is going on back there?
[0:16:21 – 0:16:21] Erik: Yeah.
[0:16:22 – 0:16:26] Adam: My man Brown with that is the way Mitchum holds the steering wheel.
[0:16:26 – 0:16:27] Adam: Did you notice that?
[0:16:27 – 0:16:29] Adam: He’s just gripping the center.
[0:16:29 – 0:16:31] Adam: He didn’t have airbags back then.
[0:16:31 – 0:16:33] Adam: You could drive like that, I guess.
[0:16:33 – 0:16:35] Adam: Get your arms ripped off doing that now.
[0:16:35 – 0:16:36] Adam: What are you thinking?
[0:16:37 – 0:16:39] Adam: Driving the steering wheel inside out, Mitchum.
[0:16:40 – 0:16:45] Adam: I think it’s all just really, then I was thinking about, though, it’s just a way to show off those knuckles a little bit cleaner.
[0:16:45 – 0:16:46] Erik: The love and hate knuckles.
[0:16:46 – 0:16:48] Adam: Yeah, the love and the hate knuckles right away.
[0:16:48 – 0:16:49] Erik: Was that the original?
[0:16:50 – 0:16:51] Adam: Love and hate?
[0:16:51 – 0:16:54] Erik: Well, the original like tattooed because you see that in.
[0:16:54 – 0:16:56] Erik: Yeah.
[0:16:56 – 0:17:00] Erik: Maybe we should do Cape Fear because there’s some tattooed knuckles in that.
[0:17:00 – 0:17:01] Erik: Have you seen Cape Fear?
[0:17:01 – 0:17:02] Adam: I don’t think so.
[0:17:02 – 0:17:03] Adam: Is that the surfing movie?
[0:17:03 – 0:17:07] Erik: No, that’s Scorsese’s take on horror.
[0:17:08 – 0:17:12] Erik: De Niro basically terrorizes this family.
[0:17:13 – 0:17:13] Adam: Cape Fear?
[0:17:13 – 0:17:14] Adam: Cape Fear.
[0:17:14 – 0:17:15] Adam: I’ve definitely not seen that.
[0:17:15 – 0:17:16] Erik: Oh, shit.
[0:17:16 – 0:17:18] Erik: We should probably do that towards the spooky season, maybe.
[0:17:18 – 0:17:19] Erik: It’s maybe one of my favorites.
[0:17:19 – 0:17:20] Adam: Let’s put it on the whiteboard.
[0:17:20 – 0:17:21] Adam: Yeah.
[0:17:21 – 0:17:24] Adam: Do you want to hit pause and go write it down right now?
[0:17:24 – 0:17:25] Erik: Yeah, well, I’ll remember it.
[0:17:25 – 0:17:25] Adam: Cape Fear.
[0:17:26 – 0:17:27] Adam: What’s the one I’m thinking of?
[0:17:27 – 0:17:28] Adam: The surfing movie.
[0:17:29 – 0:17:32] Adam: It’s kind of a scary surfing movie.
[0:17:32 – 0:17:34] Erik: A scary surfing movie?
[0:17:34 – 0:17:37] Adam: I’ll Google it.
[0:17:37 – 0:17:40] Erik: I’ll write Cape Fear and then question mark scary surfing movie.
[0:17:41 – 0:17:46] Erik: I’m sure there’s a multitude of surfing horror movies at this point.
[0:17:48 – 0:17:48] Erik: Excuse me.
[0:17:49 – 0:17:50] Erik: Point Break.
[0:17:50 – 0:17:51] Adam: I’m thinking about Point Break.
[0:17:53 – 0:17:54] Adam: It came out pretty quick.
[0:17:54 – 0:17:56] Adam: I was able to Google that pretty quick.
[0:17:56 – 0:17:57] Erik: Is there tattooed knuckles in Point Break?
[0:17:57 – 0:17:58] Adam: I don’t think so.
[0:17:59 – 0:17:59] Adam: Johnny Utah?
[0:18:00 – 0:18:01] Adam: I don’t think I’ve seen Point Break.
[0:18:01 – 0:18:02] Adam: That’s all I’m saying.
[0:18:02 – 0:18:03] Adam: You’ve also not seen Point Break?
[0:18:03 – 0:18:03] Adam: No.
[0:18:03 – 0:18:05] Erik: Point Break and Cape Fear need to go on the board then.
[0:18:06 – 0:18:09] Adam: Those two seem like they go together for some reason, but they’re not similar at all?
[0:18:09 – 0:18:09] Erik: No.
[0:18:10 – 0:18:10] Erik: Not at all.
[0:18:11 – 0:18:14] Erik: No, it’s Keanu Reeves and Kurt Russell.
[0:18:15 – 0:18:18] Adam: Kurt Russell, I think, is in Point Break.
[0:18:18 – 0:18:19] Adam: Yeah, Point Break.
[0:18:19 – 0:18:20] SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
[0:18:21 – 0:18:24] Erik: I don’t remember who goes undercover to catch who, but at some point…
[0:18:24 – 0:18:25] Adam: There is surfing, though.
[0:18:25 – 0:18:26] Adam: There is a lot of surfing, yeah.
[0:18:26 – 0:18:27] Erik: There’s also some skydiving.
[0:18:28 – 0:18:29] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:18:29 – 0:18:30] Adam: Okay.
[0:18:30 – 0:18:31] Erik: There’s no skydiving in camping.
[0:18:34 – 0:18:35] Adam: Surfboards are little boats.
[0:18:35 – 0:18:35] Adam: Yeah.
[0:18:36 – 0:18:37] Adam: I think it counts.
[0:18:38 – 0:18:39] Adam: We got a lot of boat technicality.
[0:18:39 – 0:18:46] Erik: Yeah, I mean, we did D2 last week because there was canoes in the background at one point, and it took place in Minnesota.
[0:18:46 – 0:18:48] Adam: Well, we did it because it takes place in Minnesota.
[0:18:48 – 0:18:50] Adam: The canoes in the background were just a bonus.
[0:18:50 – 0:18:50] Adam: Yeah.
[0:18:51 – 0:18:55] Erik: And because we had Stanley Cup fever a few weeks ago, and that has quickly faded from my memory.
[0:18:55 – 0:18:57] Erik: I will never talk about it ever again.
[0:18:57 – 0:19:02] Adam: We’ve still got a chance to have a Mighty Ducks-esque comeback, though, as of tonight.
[0:19:02 – 0:19:03] Erik: Well, we’ll see.
[0:19:03 – 0:19:06] Erik: It would be the greatest comeback in history if it did happen.
[0:19:07 – 0:19:09] Adam: I’m getting the tattoo if it happens for sure now.
[0:19:09 – 0:19:11] Erik: Yeah, you’ll get the oil drip under your eye?
[0:19:11 – 0:19:12] Adam: Right under the eye.
[0:19:12 – 0:19:14] Adam: Right under the eye.
[0:19:14 – 0:19:16] Erik: The kids find a dead body immediately upon trying to play hide and seek.
[0:19:17 – 0:19:19] Adam: You’d think they would have noticed that before.
[0:19:19 – 0:19:20] Adam: Down in the twister cellar?
[0:19:20 – 0:19:23] Erik: The twister cellar door was open from the get-go.
[0:19:24 – 0:19:27] Adam: So is this the people that the dad murdered?
[0:19:28 – 0:19:33] Erik: No, the dad murdered some… How many people are dying in this river valley?
[0:19:33 – 0:19:34] SPEAKER_00: Too many.
[0:19:34 – 0:19:38] Erik: I mean, for how long it takes those state troopers to come help him out at the end.
[0:19:38 – 0:19:41] Erik: I think they’d be patrolling a little bit closer.
[0:19:42 – 0:19:49] Erik: No, that’s the previous widow that Harry Powell killed, I was assuming.
[0:19:49 – 0:19:51] Adam: Okay, that was a Harry Powell victim.
[0:19:51 – 0:19:57] Erik: Yeah, I thought the dad killed somebody that he thought was a bad man or something, right?
[0:19:59 – 0:20:02] Adam: I think he just robbed a bank and killed some people to get that loot.
[0:20:02 – 0:20:02] Adam: Get the money?
[0:20:03 – 0:20:05] Adam: I think he just wanted to get a bunch of money quick.
[0:20:05 – 0:20:07] Erik: Classic 50s dad move.
[0:20:07 – 0:20:09] Erik: Getting arrested in front of the kids right in the front lawn.
[0:20:09 – 0:20:12] Adam: Just knee to the back.
[0:20:13 – 0:20:14] Adam: Mind what you promised, kid.
[0:20:15 – 0:20:19] Erik: I mean, those police officers back in the 50s, they made some quick work.
[0:20:19 – 0:20:20] Erik: They just quick arrest them.
[0:20:20 – 0:20:20] Erik: Get out of here.
[0:20:20 – 0:20:21] Erik: We’re gone.
[0:20:21 – 0:20:22] Erik: That’s it.
[0:20:22 – 0:20:23] Erik: Never to be seen again.
[0:20:23 – 0:20:25] Adam: He’s hung two weeks later.
[0:20:25 – 0:20:30] Erik: That was fucking Peter Graves, like a pretty well-known actor, too.
[0:20:30 – 0:20:32] Erik: It’s like the classic.
[0:20:32 – 0:20:36] Adam: Took a small role to get into a great movie, yeah.
[0:20:36 – 0:20:37] Erik: Drew Barrymore, the beginning of Scream.
[0:20:37 – 0:20:38] Erik: Yeah.
[0:20:38 – 0:20:42] Erik: Just put him on the cover to get people in the theater and then arrest him, and he’s gone from the rest of the movie.
[0:20:43 – 0:20:43] Erik: God.
[0:20:44 – 0:20:46] Adam: Yeah, but he really sets the tone.
[0:20:46 – 0:20:46] Erik: Yeah.
[0:20:46 – 0:20:49] Erik: He’s the pilot in Airplane, the old pilot in Airplane.
[0:20:49 – 0:20:50] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:20:50 – 0:20:52] Erik: I’m sure you haven’t seen Staloc 17.
[0:20:52 – 0:20:52] Erik: No.
[0:20:52 – 0:20:57] Erik: Hilarious war movie from the early 50s, like the first war spoof movie after World War II.
[0:20:58 – 0:21:00] Adam: Oh, we can finally laugh about it now?
[0:21:01 – 0:21:01] Adam: Yeah, I guess.
[0:21:02 – 0:21:02] Adam: Eight years.
[0:21:03 – 0:21:04] SPEAKER_00: Ahead of its time, yeah.
[0:21:05 – 0:21:10] Erik: For a movie like that, you know, to think about people laughing about World War II eight years after it ended is kind of crazy.
[0:21:11 – 0:21:13] Erik: But he gets hung, hung for the murder.
[0:21:14 – 0:21:15] Erik: And the kids sing about it.
[0:21:15 – 0:21:18] Adam: Yeah, that’s some schoolyard taunting right there.
[0:21:18 – 0:21:19] Adam: Hang, hang, hung.
[0:21:20 – 0:21:21] SPEAKER_00: Hang, hang, hung.
[0:21:21 – 0:21:22] Erik: See the robber swing.
[0:21:23 – 0:21:29] Adam: And all the, like, the lyric, all the, like, the, all the voices in the songs are so crazy.
[0:21:29 – 0:21:29] Adam: Mm-hmm.
[0:21:31 – 0:21:59] Adam: little one dream jesus christ yeah like even the songs that are supposed to be like suit they’re like if you listen to the words somewhat soothing songs but they’re like even those put you on edge yeah then you got the kids singing about their father getting hung yikes and the little girl starts singing the song it’s too catchy too catchy real earworm in 1954 yeah even pearl starts singing it later can’t help herself peter graves also from minneapolis
[0:21:59 – 0:22:00] Adam: Hey, there we go.
[0:22:00 – 0:22:02] Adam: Palookaville, Minneapolis.
[0:22:02 – 0:22:03] Erik: Palookaville.
[0:22:03 – 0:22:04] Erik: This dump of a town.
[0:22:06 – 0:22:09] Erik: I wanted more Mitchum and Peter Graves.
[0:22:09 – 0:22:11] Erik: The interaction of those two in the jail cell.
[0:22:11 – 0:22:11] Erik: Yeah.
[0:22:11 – 0:22:13] Erik: I thought it was very great because it was like…
[0:22:14 – 0:22:14] Erik: He was…
[0:22:15 – 0:22:22] Erik: Honestly, the only… Well, he doesn’t really get much of an opportunity to ever go head-to-head against another adult man.
[0:22:23 – 0:22:23] Erik: Yeah.
[0:22:23 – 0:22:30] Erik: He has little showdowns with different women, but he’s almost always just generally swindling people.
[0:22:30 – 0:22:35] Erik: But the Peter Graves character, the dad, before he gets hung, I feel like he just fully is…
[0:22:35 – 0:22:36] Adam: He was onto him.
[0:22:36 – 0:22:36] Erik: He’s fully onto him.
[0:22:36 – 0:22:38] Erik: He’s like, is there going to be free candy for the children?
[0:22:38 – 0:22:39] Erik: Yeah.
[0:22:41 – 0:23:04] Erik: he’s starting he wants the 10 000 so he can open up a tabernacle okay and then bart the hangman comes home i love that i love that the guy’s name is bart i don’t know if i can keep doing this mom you know we say that after you hang them yeah i like calling your wife mother mother that’s a classic move start doing that
[0:23:04 – 0:23:07] Adam: Nobody’s doing that anymore except for Mike Pence.
[0:23:07 – 0:23:08] Adam: Oh, God.
[0:23:08 – 0:23:09] Adam: If he’s still out there.
[0:23:09 – 0:23:10] Adam: Yeah, I think he is somewhere.
[0:23:10 – 0:23:14] Adam: That’s the kind of creeps that pull that shenanigan language there.
[0:23:15 – 0:23:15] Adam: Yeah.
[0:23:15 – 0:23:16] Adam: Mother.
[0:23:16 – 0:23:19] Adam: There’s like multiple characters calling their spouses mother.
[0:23:20 – 0:23:20] Adam: Yeah.
[0:23:20 – 0:23:22] Adam: I think Mike Pence… That’s the sign of the times.
[0:23:22 – 0:23:24] Erik: Yeah, I think he’s from Creesaps Landing.
[0:23:24 – 0:23:25] Adam: That’s where he is.
[0:23:25 – 0:23:27] Adam: He grew up on that river right there.
[0:23:27 – 0:23:28] Adam: Right there.
[0:23:28 – 0:23:29] Adam: Maybe he’s one of the orphans.
[0:23:30 – 0:23:31] Adam: Oh, God.
[0:23:31 – 0:23:31] Adam: There’s…
[0:23:31 – 0:23:33] Adam: There’s the conspiracy theory of the night.
[0:23:34 – 0:23:35] SPEAKER_00: Pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew.
[0:23:36 – 0:23:42] Adam: Mike Pence was one of the floating angel kids from the opening scene.
[0:23:42 – 0:23:42] Erik: Yeah.
[0:23:42 – 0:23:43] Erik: Mother.
[0:23:44 – 0:23:46] Erik: The only way that we can destroy him is that we have to go and…
[0:23:49 – 0:23:52] Adam: Gotta go pull the plug on this river, drain the bathtub.
[0:23:52 – 0:23:53] Erik: Dig up Willa’s body.
[0:23:54 – 0:23:57] Erik: There was such an era of kids drinking coffee too in the 50s.
[0:23:57 – 0:23:58] Adam: Yeah, exactly.
[0:23:58 – 0:24:01] Adam: We gotta feed more kids coffee, I guess.
[0:24:02 – 0:24:03] Adam: This is what’s really wrong with our country.
[0:24:04 – 0:24:06] Adam: Not enough kids drinking coffee.
[0:24:06 – 0:24:06] Erik: Yeah.
[0:24:07 – 0:24:14] Erik: I wish I could remember the song that he always sings because one of the first scenes, like the first time he comes to town after he gets, I guess he just gets released.
[0:24:14 – 0:24:21] Erik: He’s got a short stint in jail after he’s in a jail cell, sharing a jail cell with a man who’s going to be hung.
[0:24:21 – 0:24:23] Erik: But the next day he’s just getting out.
[0:24:23 – 0:24:26] Adam: Well, he just is in prison for stealing the car, I think.
[0:24:26 – 0:24:26] Adam: Yeah.
[0:24:27 – 0:24:30] Adam: So, yeah, it’s just theft of a car that they were able to recover.
[0:24:30 – 0:24:30] Adam: Yeah.
[0:24:30 – 0:24:33] Adam: And he’s a preacher, so he probably got a pretty light sentence.
[0:24:33 – 0:24:35] Erik: That’s the fucking biggest swindle.
[0:24:35 – 0:24:38] Erik: That’s the biggest swindle move of any of these movies.
[0:24:38 – 0:24:39] Erik: Was it actually like that?
[0:24:39 – 0:24:42] Erik: Could you just put on that little white collar and just walk into any town?
[0:24:42 – 0:24:42] Erik: I’m a preacher.
[0:24:43 – 0:24:45] Erik: Say whatever you wanted to anybody and eventually get some money?
[0:24:46 – 0:24:51] Adam: I’d say people are dumber than rocks back then, but I’d just actually amend that and say people are just dumber than rocks.
[0:24:51 – 0:24:52] Erik: I was going to say, I think that still happens.
[0:24:52 – 0:24:55] Erik: They just have larger, they actually got their tabernacles.
[0:24:55 – 0:24:59] Adam: Grow up and find out that, yeah, actually most of the adults have no idea what’s going on.
[0:25:00 – 0:25:00] Erik: I need the money.
[0:25:00 – 0:25:06] Adam: When you’re a kid, you think they know what they’re doing, but it turns out nobody knows anything, and most of them are just knuckleheads.
[0:25:07 – 0:25:07] Erik: Yeah, what do you think?
[0:25:07 – 0:25:11] Erik: I need my private jet so I can get closer to God.
[0:25:11 – 0:25:13] Adam: Yeah, but people are easily swindled.
[0:25:15 – 0:25:19] Adam: Yeah, especially if you appear to be a man of God in that era.
[0:25:19 – 0:25:25] Adam: As we said, the culture is, the church is like the head of everything back then.
[0:25:25 – 0:25:32] Erik: Yeah, the foundation has already been laid, so anybody can just come in and kind of do a little one-two with the old hand trick.
[0:25:32 – 0:25:33] Erik: That’s quite the grift.
[0:25:33 – 0:25:34] SPEAKER_00: Love’s going to win.
[0:25:34 – 0:25:35] SPEAKER_00: I’m going to get him.
[0:25:35 – 0:25:36] Adam: Oh, here comes love.
[0:25:36 – 0:25:37] Adam: He’s got him.
[0:25:37 – 0:25:38] Adam: Send him back to us.
[0:25:39 – 0:25:40] Adam: Demon pit of hell.
[0:25:40 – 0:25:42] Erik: There’s like women in the background fanning themselves.
[0:25:45 – 0:25:47] Adam: Thank God I’m good with that little story.
[0:25:47 – 0:25:52] Adam: I thought, honestly, last night I was like, I’m going to write love and hate on my knuckles for recording tonight.
[0:25:53 – 0:25:54] Adam: Yeah.
[0:25:54 – 0:25:55] Adam: I watched it last night.
[0:25:55 – 0:26:00] Adam: I was like, I’m going to do up some knuckle tattoos just with a marker.
[0:26:00 – 0:26:01] Adam: Yeah.
[0:26:01 – 0:26:03] Adam: But even with Sharpie, that’s going to take a lot of scrubbing to get that off.
[0:26:04 – 0:26:05] Adam: I was like, yeah, I don’t really…
[0:26:07 – 0:26:26] Adam: it wouldn’t have been worth it for the joke eric wouldn’t even probably laughed about it once so and then you i mean it’s not i’m stuck with it and natalie’s like what are you doing i was like i’m mitchum i’m a modern day mitchum and she’s like you don’t you don’t know you don’t think that doesn’t mean what you think it means yeah what are you talking about
[0:26:26 – 0:26:34] Erik: I love the first time we get to meet Uncle Bertie and the kid’s drinking coffee and he pours a little in his coffee.
[0:26:34 – 0:26:37] Erik: He needs a little snort to heat the boilers.
[0:26:37 – 0:26:38] Adam: Yeah, start them boilers up.
[0:26:38 – 0:26:39] Erik: I love that.
[0:26:39 – 0:26:40] Erik: That’s great.
[0:26:40 – 0:26:41] Erik: That’s an old phrase.
[0:26:41 – 0:26:43] Adam: Someone my age needs a little snort.
[0:26:44 – 0:26:47] Adam: Yeah.
[0:26:47 – 0:26:49] Adam: I love his little houseboat.
[0:26:49 – 0:27:09] Adam: yeah what is that it’s like kind of a dock but kind of permanently moored permanently there yeah since the since the big boats no longer stop there you can just take up a space at the marina the big ferry’s not stopping anymore oh the paddle wheel is just going steaming up river right past us there goes the commerce yeah there goes all the money
[0:27:09 – 0:27:12] Adam: This is just like Radiator Springs in Cars.
[0:27:12 – 0:27:15] Adam: Oh, God, stop it.
[0:27:15 – 0:27:21] Adam: The goddamn interstate went right through the landscape, Eric, instead of going with the landscape.
[0:27:21 – 0:27:22] Adam: You hear?
[0:27:22 – 0:27:23] Erik: Yeah, I hear.
[0:27:23 – 0:27:29] Adam: The interstate ruined Radiator Springs, just like the steamboat ruined Creosote Junction.
[0:27:34 – 0:27:35] Adam: What’s the name of this town?
[0:27:35 – 0:27:36] Erik: Creesaps Landing.
[0:27:36 – 0:27:37] Adam: Creesaps Landing.
[0:27:38 – 0:27:40] Erik: Worst sounding name of a town ever.
[0:27:40 – 0:27:42] Erik: It just sounds gross.
[0:27:42 – 0:27:45] Adam: Sounds like something that you don’t want to have happen to you.
[0:27:45 – 0:27:46] Adam: Creesaps.
[0:27:46 – 0:27:49] Adam: It sounds like some kind of a discharge.
[0:27:49 – 0:27:50] Adam: What happened here?
[0:27:50 – 0:27:52] Adam: Creesaps Landing.
[0:27:53 – 0:27:53] Adam: Not again!
[0:27:54 – 0:27:55] Erik: No.
[0:27:55 – 0:27:56] Erik: Yeah.
[0:27:56 – 0:28:01] Erik: If you hear somebody say, just go, ugh, Cresap’s Landing.
[0:28:01 – 0:28:05] Adam: Cresap’s Landing never worked a day in his life.
[0:28:06 – 0:28:08] Erik: Well, Uncle Bertie sure hasn’t.
[0:28:08 – 0:28:08] Erik: Jesus.
[0:28:08 – 0:28:09] Erik: Uncle Bertie.
[0:28:09 – 0:28:13] Erik: What did he tend to the boat when it stopped and it stopped stopping?
[0:28:13 – 0:28:17] Adam: And now he’s just waiting for that boat to come back so he can fill him up with gas.
[0:28:17 – 0:28:20] Erik: Yeah, he’s got a picture of his wife there just kind of looking at him.
[0:28:20 – 0:28:21] Erik: That’s about it.
[0:28:21 – 0:28:26] Adam: He just shovels the coal into the boiler of the paddle boat.
[0:28:26 – 0:28:30] Erik: The boiler of his gullet and the coal is booze of some sort.
[0:28:30 – 0:28:33] Adam: Coal is booze and he’s got his boiler rumbling.
[0:28:33 – 0:28:34] Adam: That’s the thing.
[0:28:34 – 0:28:36] Adam: He must be a boiler expert.
[0:28:37 – 0:28:38] Adam: Yeah, back then.
[0:28:38 – 0:28:43] Adam: Based on the puns and the pattern of abuse and life in the river.
[0:28:43 – 0:28:43] Adam: Yeah.
[0:28:45 – 0:28:45] Adam: Tough life.
[0:28:45 – 0:28:46] Adam: Jesus.
[0:28:46 – 0:28:50] Adam: Something about the sound of the river going by every day just does something to you.
[0:28:50 – 0:28:51] Erik: Yeah, probably wears on you.
[0:28:51 – 0:28:52] Adam: Breaks the mind.
[0:28:52 – 0:28:57] Erik: Yeah, pretty early on you get a bad feeling about this Harry Powell character, though, eh?
[0:28:58 – 0:29:05] Adam: Everybody, I can’t believe there’s people around, even though he is a fake preacher, that are falling for this.
[0:29:05 – 0:29:06] Adam: They’re all fawning over him.
[0:29:06 – 0:29:09] Adam: He’s obviously a con man and a grifter.
[0:29:09 – 0:29:12] Erik: All it takes is just a little bit of scripture and a little bit of singing.
[0:29:13 – 0:29:19] Erik: Like I was saying, at one point, the first time he shows up in town, his hat is just…
[0:29:21 – 0:29:23] Erik: displayed, like, projected on the bedroom.
[0:29:23 – 0:29:24] Erik: Oh, the huge shadow?
[0:29:24 – 0:29:25] Erik: The huge shadow.
[0:29:25 – 0:29:27] Erik: I was like, is that how shadows work?
[0:29:27 – 0:29:29] Erik: No, not really, but it’s kind of spooky.
[0:29:29 – 0:29:29] Erik: I love it, though.
[0:29:29 – 0:29:30] Erik: It was great.
[0:29:30 – 0:29:31] Erik: Kind of scary and spooky.
[0:29:31 – 0:29:33] Adam: Well, they got crazy, like, streetlights in that town.
[0:29:33 – 0:29:36] Adam: Maybe that is how shadows work when you got, like, live flame.
[0:29:36 – 0:29:38] Erik: Actual lanterns with live flame.
[0:29:38 – 0:29:41] Adam: Somebody’s got to go around and fuel those up every day?
[0:29:41 – 0:29:42] Adam: Yeah, and he’s just out there.
[0:29:42 – 0:29:43] Adam: He’s just, like, singing…
[0:29:47 – 0:29:48] Erik: And Pearl’s like, what is it?
[0:29:48 – 0:29:49] Erik: It’s like, don’t worry.
[0:29:49 – 0:29:50] Erik: It’s just a man.
[0:29:50 – 0:29:50] Erik: It’s just a man.
[0:29:50 – 0:29:53] Adam: Singing hymns under a streetlight in the dark, Pearl.
[0:29:53 – 0:29:53] Adam: Don’t worry.
[0:29:54 – 0:29:54] Adam: It’s fine.
[0:29:54 – 0:29:55] Adam: We see this every day.
[0:29:55 – 0:29:56] Erik: Yeah.
[0:29:56 – 0:29:58] Erik: The boy is just like, good night.
[0:29:58 – 0:29:58] Adam: Good night.
[0:29:58 – 0:30:01] Adam: Then I guess nothing to worry about that shadow.
[0:30:01 – 0:30:02] Erik: No, not at all.
[0:30:02 – 0:30:04] Erik: It’s like the scariest thing I’ve ever seen.
[0:30:04 – 0:30:06] Erik: That man out there on the other side of the picket fence.
[0:30:07 – 0:30:07] Erik: Jesus.
[0:30:07 – 0:30:10] Adam: That’s like the beginning of a Jordan Peele movie.
[0:30:10 – 0:30:10] Erik: Yeah.
[0:30:10 – 0:30:14] Erik: I mean, it’s like the cover of The Exorcist.
[0:30:15 – 0:30:15] Erik: Yeah.
[0:30:15 – 0:30:20] Erik: It’s literally a man standing in the fog next to a building with a single light on in a bedroom.
[0:30:20 – 0:30:20] Adam: Yikes.
[0:30:21 – 0:30:26] Erik: He just kind of swoops in because there’s a woman with kids that need taken care of.
[0:30:26 – 0:30:27] Adam: Sniffs out widows, huh?
[0:30:27 – 0:30:29] Erik: Well, I mean, that’s just what he does.
[0:30:29 – 0:30:32] Erik: Is he always looking for cash or is he always just looking for the murder?
[0:30:33 – 0:30:35] Erik: This one just happens to have 10 grand involved.
[0:30:35 – 0:30:40] Adam: Hey, the Lord put him in the jail cell to find out about this case.
[0:30:40 – 0:30:44] Adam: The Lord must have wanted him to have the cash and the widow murder him.
[0:30:44 – 0:30:52] Erik: But how, I mean, how strong in his convictions do you think he actually is in his beliefs?
[0:30:53 – 0:30:56] Erik: Because he seems like he’s clearly using it to his benefit.
[0:30:56 – 0:30:58] Erik: And it seems like he’s clearly.
[0:30:58 – 0:31:01] Adam: Is he like actually a former preacher?
[0:31:01 – 0:31:03] Adam: Is a preacher turned bad maybe?
[0:31:03 – 0:31:07] Adam: Or is he, so he does have a residual like appreciation?
[0:31:08 – 0:31:08] Erik: Yeah, I don’t know.
[0:31:09 – 0:31:10] Erik: I mean, he seems like he believes.
[0:31:11 – 0:31:11] Adam: I guess he does.
[0:31:11 – 0:31:12] Adam: Because he’s by himself.
[0:31:12 – 0:31:14] Adam: He feels like he’s getting good fortune, yeah.
[0:31:14 – 0:31:15] Erik: Maybe, yeah.
[0:31:15 – 0:31:18] Erik: I mean, he seems like he’s, didn’t he go to like a movie or a show at some point?
[0:31:18 – 0:31:24] Erik: He’s just like angry that the women are like flaunting around and like, he’s not doing that for anybody.
[0:31:24 – 0:31:26] Adam: Yeah, they had a free breakfast buffet though.
[0:31:26 – 0:31:27] Adam: Yeah.
[0:31:27 – 0:31:27] Adam: That’s why he’s there.
[0:31:28 – 0:31:29] Adam: He was just there for the food.
[0:31:29 – 0:31:30] Adam: Yeah.
[0:31:31 – 0:31:31] Adam: And to be angry.
[0:31:32 – 0:31:34] Erik: He just swoops in and all of a sudden he’s the dad.
[0:31:35 – 0:31:38] Adam: Is he looking around for people?
[0:31:38 – 0:31:46] Adam: He finds records of a fella died, and then he goes to swoop in a vulture?
[0:31:46 – 0:31:48] Adam: Or is he just randomly finding widows?
[0:31:48 – 0:31:50] Adam: How many widows are we talking?
[0:31:51 – 0:31:56] Adam: It seems like there’s probably a lot more widows back in the day, because you’d die from all sorts of things back in the 1800s.
[0:31:57 – 0:31:59] Erik: Yeah, boilers were exploding left and right.
[0:31:59 – 0:32:02] Erik: I mean, is this like a Killers of the Flower Moon situation?
[0:32:02 – 0:32:09] Erik: You just swoop in, marry the widow, and take the cash that she inherited from the dead husband?
[0:32:09 – 0:32:11] Erik: Or the land?
[0:32:11 – 0:32:14] Erik: He seems pretty vagabond, itinerant-esque.
[0:32:14 – 0:32:15] Adam: Kill him and take the deed?
[0:32:15 – 0:32:16] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:32:16 – 0:32:19] Adam: I like that in a movie where they’re trying to get the deed.
[0:32:19 – 0:32:21] Adam: But they never really talk about it in this one.
[0:32:21 – 0:32:21] Adam: The claim?
[0:32:22 – 0:32:24] Adam: Yeah, they gotta strike my claim.
[0:32:24 – 0:32:25] Adam: File that claim.
[0:32:25 – 0:32:25] Adam: Ha ha ha!
[0:32:26 – 0:32:30] Adam: Mitchum is either going after a claim or he’s looking for the deed.
[0:32:30 – 0:32:39] Erik: I love within a year, I don’t know if it was within a calendar year, but 54 to 55, he goes from straight up John Wayne hero, save the day, to…
[0:32:40 – 0:32:42] Erik: I mean, I wouldn’t put him in the top 10 of like…
[0:32:43 – 0:33:08] Erik: you know like villains but top 10 creepy preacher though and very memorable he’s no anton chigurh but i mean damn he is he’s pulling it off oh it’s scary to go from like hey lady come on get on my horse let’s go down the river let me kiss you i’ll take care of you he’s a little mysterious in that but he’s very much the hero uh-huh the quiet hero and this he’s like a quiet fucking menace
[0:33:08 – 0:33:09] Adam: Yeah, he’s a menace.
[0:33:10 – 0:33:12] Adam: Jesus Christ.
[0:33:12 – 0:33:15] Adam: He just says and do anything to get what he wants.
[0:33:15 – 0:33:16] Adam: It’s crazy.
[0:33:16 – 0:33:22] Adam: And then people are just falling for it because most of these people are just idiots.
[0:33:22 – 0:33:23] Erik: Well, and that’s the thing.
[0:33:23 – 0:33:24] Erik: It’s like, who’s going to stop him?
[0:33:25 – 0:33:33] Erik: I think he also, like, yeah, sure, he might actually believe in God, but I think he also fully realizes that it’s like, what’s anybody going to do about it?
[0:33:34 – 0:33:38] Erik: He gets brazen at so many different times where it’s just like,
[0:33:39 – 0:33:58] Adam: I don’t know she just took off and he’s pulling the whole like sad husband thing yeah I mean it’s just I found her drinking dandelion wine in the cellar yeah she’s wicked he just starts calling the kids you little dirty wretch like immediately yeah
[0:33:58 – 0:34:00] Adam: I just love how fast he turns on them.
[0:34:00 – 0:34:01] Erik: Yeah.
[0:34:01 – 0:34:06] Erik: I mean, he’s doing it like he just straight up like says like horrible shit to the children and then eventually just to her.
[0:34:07 – 0:34:07] Erik: Yeah.
[0:34:07 – 0:34:08] Erik: Because he knows he’s going to kill her.
[0:34:09 – 0:34:12] Erik: He never really says anything terrible to like, what is that lady?
[0:34:12 – 0:34:13] Erik: Is her name Icy?
[0:34:13 – 0:34:15] Erik: No, it’s Mrs. Spoons.
[0:34:15 – 0:34:18] Erik: Well, I know the name of the place is Spoons, but I swear they call her Icy.
[0:34:19 – 0:34:19] Erik: Icy Spoons?
[0:34:20 – 0:34:21] Adam: Yeah, maybe.
[0:34:21 – 0:34:23] Adam: I have them as Mr. and Mrs. Spoons.
[0:34:23 – 0:34:24] Adam: Mr. and Mrs. Spoons.
[0:34:24 – 0:34:25] Adam: Their last name is Spoons.
[0:34:25 – 0:34:28] Adam: That’s why the parlor is named Spoons Parlor.
[0:34:28 – 0:34:28] Adam: Yeah.
[0:34:29 – 0:34:32] Adam: But yeah, I never got their first name, but she’s the biggest idiot in the whole world.
[0:34:33 – 0:34:34] Adam: Yeah, well, she’s the worst.
[0:34:34 – 0:34:34] Erik: I hate her.
[0:34:35 – 0:34:36] Erik: I hated her the whole time.
[0:34:36 – 0:34:40] Erik: I hated her just a little bit more than I hated Pearl.
[0:34:40 – 0:35:06] Adam: mrs spoons like literally represents everything that’s wrong with this bullshit country yeah i think it’s like back in the day and it still is like people are just falling for this bullshit yeah and eating it eating it like hand over fist and uh and just and then trying to convince everybody around them that they’re right yeah and like that they’re you know they’re clearly misreading the room oh my god like she’s just the worst
[0:35:06 – 0:35:08] Adam: Yeah, you got to get yourself a man.
[0:35:08 – 0:35:10] Adam: Her husband was just hung two days ago.
[0:35:10 – 0:35:13] Adam: She’s like, you need yourself a man in the house.
[0:35:13 – 0:35:13] Adam: He’s a murderer.
[0:35:14 – 0:35:16] Adam: Well, he’s still a nice man.
[0:35:17 – 0:35:19] Adam: Jesus Christ, Mrs. Spoons.
[0:35:19 – 0:35:20] Adam: You couldn’t be more wrong about everything.
[0:35:21 – 0:35:22] Adam: Except for how to make fudge.
[0:35:23 – 0:35:24] Erik: She still makes a mean fudge.
[0:35:25 – 0:35:27] Erik: Something’s got to pay those, I don’t know, bills?
[0:35:27 – 0:35:28] Adam: They got employees.
[0:35:28 – 0:35:30] Adam: How much fudge are they selling in this little town?
[0:35:30 – 0:35:31] Erik: They’re always in there.
[0:35:31 – 0:35:34] Erik: All hours of the night you go by, they’re like licking on a fudge pop or something.
[0:35:34 – 0:35:35] Adam: Making lollipops.
[0:35:36 – 0:35:36] Erik: Yeah.
[0:35:37 – 0:35:39] Erik: That horrible, horrible honeymoon though.
[0:35:39 – 0:35:39] Erik: Yeah.
[0:35:39 – 0:35:40] Erik: Oh my God.
[0:35:40 – 0:35:42] Erik: No boning for Willa.
[0:35:42 – 0:35:43] Erik: Poor Willa.
[0:35:43 – 0:35:48] Erik: And then she just immediately turns to God, just looks up and just like, I will be better.
[0:35:49 – 0:35:51] Adam: I guess I got myself into a real jackpot here.
[0:35:51 – 0:35:52] Erik: Oh, my God.
[0:35:54 – 0:35:56] Adam: We do get some hot… We’re not baguette-ing anymore, children.
[0:35:56 – 0:35:58] Erik: You’ve got children.
[0:35:58 – 0:35:59] Erik: You already got some children.
[0:36:00 – 0:36:01] Erik: I mean, he doesn’t even…
[0:36:01 – 0:36:05] Erik: I mean, you could very easily take advantage of that situation, Mitchum.
[0:36:05 – 0:36:09] Erik: If I’ve seen you take advantage of a situation that’s offered less, I’ve seen it.
[0:36:09 – 0:36:10] Erik: Yeah.
[0:36:10 – 0:36:11] Adam: We’ve seen it.
[0:36:11 – 0:36:12] Adam: He didn’t rub anything.
[0:36:12 – 0:36:12] Adam: No.
[0:36:14 – 0:36:15] Adam: No.
[0:36:15 – 0:36:17] Adam: This Mitchum doesn’t rub even himself.
[0:36:17 – 0:36:38] Adam: no no no self Mitchum’s in this one this is this is a no touch him Mitchum no touch him Mitchum he’s a no touch he’s a whatever the never nudes but he’s just don’t touch me god damn it I will the only thing he the only way he ever touches anybody is with his switchblade my god that switch does he actually ever touch anybody in the whole movie
[0:36:39 – 0:36:58] Erik: um i mean he grabs the kids a few times he grabs the kids by their shoulders nothing i don’t think anything like and resembling anything uh close to a rubdown no it’s a pretty bland pretty bland amount of touching from this mitchum yeah we do get some sweet fishing action though oh my god the fishing
[0:36:58 – 0:36:59] Erik: Yep.
[0:36:59 – 0:37:01] Erik: Are they fishing for gar?
[0:37:01 – 0:37:02] Erik: Is that what I hear?
[0:37:02 – 0:37:06] Adam: Yeah, they’re looking for gar, which are a nice river fish.
[0:37:06 – 0:37:08] Adam: You’ve seen pictures of the alligator gar.
[0:37:08 – 0:37:09] Adam: Yes.
[0:37:09 – 0:37:13] Adam: They make our northern pike up here look like guppies and pollywogs.
[0:37:13 – 0:37:14] Adam: Looks like little minnows.
[0:37:14 – 0:37:16] Erik: Yeah, those things are crazy.
[0:37:16 – 0:37:19] Erik: Yeah, he just whips that one out like a cartoon.
[0:37:20 – 0:37:25] Adam: This is the kind of stuff that we got into Tumble Home Cinema Classics to talk about, like poor fishing.
[0:37:25 – 0:37:26] Adam: Oh, my God.
[0:37:26 – 0:37:30] Adam: Just really bad fake fish in taxidermy movies.
[0:37:30 – 0:37:34] Adam: People holding the rod upside down or rowing backwards or whatever.
[0:37:34 – 0:37:40] Adam: I just love gaffes when it comes to this kind of stuff, and this is one of the all-time best fake fish in a movie.
[0:37:41 – 0:37:41] Adam: Hands down.
[0:37:41 – 0:37:43] Adam: I forgot all about this part.
[0:37:43 – 0:37:44] Adam: This is great.
[0:37:44 – 0:37:53] Adam: I was like, if I had been drinking coffee like a child in the 1918 Dickety Six, I would have spit it out of the room when I saw that garf light on the river.
[0:37:53 – 0:37:55] Erik: I was not expecting that at all.
[0:37:55 – 0:37:59] Adam: This is like a violent, insane hook set of the year.
[0:37:59 – 0:38:02] Erik: And then he just viciously attacks it with an oar.
[0:38:02 – 0:38:03] Erik: Yeah, just.
[0:38:03 – 0:38:19] Adam: take it out like remember back in the like i remember seeing videos of back in the day for musky fishing they’d like literally just shoot the musky oh god they get it close to the boat like that’s i was expecting him to whip out a pistol this is an incredible experience watching that fishing trip unfold
[0:38:19 – 0:38:20] Erik: That was great.
[0:38:20 – 0:38:21] Erik: That was it.
[0:38:21 – 0:38:22] Erik: That was all that there was, though.
[0:38:22 – 0:38:23] Erik: The one fishing trip.
[0:38:23 – 0:38:25] Adam: They really made the whole movie right there.
[0:38:25 – 0:38:26] Erik: They kind of did, honestly.
[0:38:26 – 0:38:26] Erik: What are you doing?
[0:38:26 – 0:38:32] Erik: In terms of the Tumble Home Cinema Classics aspect, it made it more than worthy of being on this list.
[0:38:33 – 0:38:36] Erik: The actual movie itself notwithstanding.
[0:38:36 – 0:38:41] Erik: I could just re-watch that gar rip scene just over and over again.
[0:38:41 – 0:38:43] Adam: He’s talking about how he’s like…
[0:38:44 – 0:38:47] Adam: He’s talking about how he makes the leaders with horse hair.
[0:38:47 – 0:38:47] Adam: Yeah.
[0:38:47 – 0:38:50] Adam: Like, you could drag a car out of the river with this little bitch.
[0:38:50 – 0:38:51] Adam: Yeah.
[0:38:51 – 0:38:57] Adam: That was a little foreshadowing because they could rip the gar out for sure, but gars and cars.
[0:38:57 – 0:38:58] Erik: You can’t rip that car out.
[0:38:58 – 0:39:00] Adam: I didn’t realize horse hair is that strong.
[0:39:00 – 0:39:00] Adam: Is that true?
[0:39:01 – 0:39:04] Erik: I guess if you braid it the right way and you get it nice and fresh.
[0:39:04 – 0:39:05] Adam: I guess freshest horse.
[0:39:05 – 0:39:06] Erik: Fresh picked off the butt.
[0:39:10 – 0:39:11] Adam: Do you think the preacher can swim?
[0:39:11 – 0:39:12] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:39:12 – 0:39:14] Adam: I think I’m getting way ahead of myself here.
[0:39:14 – 0:39:17] Erik: No, I don’t think anybody could swim in that part of the country.
[0:39:17 – 0:39:18] Adam: Yeah, no, this was back in the day.
[0:39:19 – 0:39:25] Adam: We were talking about this on our camping trip, like swimming lessons and how there is a bunch of people that just can’t swim.
[0:39:26 – 0:39:28] Adam: Seems insane to me that you can’t swim.
[0:39:28 – 0:39:29] Erik: It’s a privilege, not a right.
[0:39:30 – 0:39:30] Erik: I guess so.
[0:39:30 – 0:39:32] Adam: You’re not born with that, huh?
[0:39:32 – 0:39:33] Erik: No, not like a dog.
[0:39:34 – 0:39:35] Adam: Hook set of the year, though.
[0:39:35 – 0:39:36] Adam: Uncle Bernie.
[0:39:36 – 0:39:38] Adam: Uncle Bernie is your friend.
[0:39:38 – 0:39:39] Adam: Is it Bernie or Birdie?
[0:39:39 – 0:39:44] Adam: I think it’s Bernie, but the way he’s always drunk on peach snaps or whatever.
[0:39:44 – 0:39:45] Adam: I have the subtitles on.
[0:39:45 – 0:39:46] Erik: It said Birdie.
[0:39:47 – 0:39:47] Adam: Birdie?
[0:39:47 – 0:39:48] Adam: Mm-hmm.
[0:39:48 – 0:39:49] Adam: Oh, Uncle Birdie.
[0:39:49 – 0:39:49] Adam: Yeah.
[0:39:49 – 0:39:50] Adam: I love it.
[0:39:50 – 0:39:52] Adam: Uncle Birdie is your friend.
[0:39:55 – 0:40:14] Erik: uh i’ve uh almost lost it when uh pearl just decided to pull out all the cash and cut little paper airplanes in the middle of the courtyard like pearl oh my god we do need some tension here but pearl you fucking idiot bitch what are you doing you could do this anywhere right now
[0:40:14 – 0:40:16] Adam: I don’t want to do it in the yard.
[0:40:16 – 0:40:19] Adam: The dollar bills are flying under his hat.
[0:40:19 – 0:40:20] Erik: Yeah, they blow by his feet.
[0:40:20 – 0:40:22] Adam: How does he not see that?
[0:40:22 – 0:40:22] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:40:23 – 0:40:25] Adam: He’s too focused on the kids.
[0:40:25 – 0:40:26] Erik: Yeah.
[0:40:26 – 0:40:28] Erik: I was like, I have no faith in Pearl at this point.
[0:40:28 – 0:40:29] Erik: She’s going to give it up.
[0:40:30 – 0:40:30] Erik: Yeah.
[0:40:31 – 0:40:36] Erik: She does, but I mean, he’s got a pointy, he’s got the switchblade to his neck.
[0:40:37 – 0:40:39] Erik: Yeah, that ain’t right.
[0:40:39 – 0:40:44] Erik: Yeah, we do get maybe the cleanest smacking of a wife I’ve ever seen on film.
[0:40:44 – 0:40:50] Erik: She’s laying in bed, and he’s just standing above her, and it’s just that perfect swoop.
[0:40:50 – 0:40:51] Erik: Yeah, the sound effect on that.
[0:40:51 – 0:40:52] Adam: And she doesn’t even move.
[0:40:52 – 0:40:58] Adam: No, she’s so possessed by the Lord that her prayer has been answered at that point.
[0:40:58 – 0:40:59] Adam: Jesus.
[0:40:59 – 0:41:01] Erik: Yep, and nobody who’s known.
[0:41:01 – 0:41:02] Erik: Arrow, what are you doing?
[0:41:03 – 0:41:04] Erik: Knocking shit over somehow.
[0:41:04 – 0:41:05] Adam: Arrow, lay down.
[0:41:05 – 0:41:06] Adam: My God.
[0:41:06 – 0:41:12] Erik: Nobody in the town that’s known Willa for years has any questions about maybe where she’s gone or who she knows.
[0:41:12 – 0:41:15] Erik: This is just also, again, that day and age where people kind of just came and went.
[0:41:16 – 0:41:19] Adam: Mr. Spoons is like, I don’t think there’s anything right with this lady.
[0:41:19 – 0:41:23] Adam: And then the boomer lady is like, no, he’s a sweet man.
[0:41:23 – 0:41:24] Adam: Yeah.
[0:41:24 – 0:41:25] Erik: He’s murdered.
[0:41:25 – 0:41:27] Adam: You couldn’t be worse of a judge of character.
[0:41:27 – 0:41:33] Adam: Didn’t you see him do the thing with his hands?
[0:41:33 – 0:42:02] Adam: oh man he did that little thing with his hands he’s a sweet man he beat hate we can beat hate too i’m gonna love him oh she’s the she’s the worst and then he’s like yeah i’ve got my i’ve got some suspicions she’s like you’re sleeping on the porch tonight yeah after he drank some of the peach schnapps that was only for medicinal purposes or whatever that’s uh you don’t even have a license to sell that at the parlor no what is what is that going into
[0:42:04 – 0:42:05] Erik: Fudge.
[0:42:05 – 0:42:05] Erik: Fudge.
[0:42:05 – 0:42:08] Adam: Fudge.
[0:42:08 – 0:42:11] Adam: All the different kinds of fudge on the river.
[0:42:11 – 0:42:11] Adam: Yeah.
[0:42:11 – 0:42:13] Adam: This one is my favorite.
[0:42:15 – 0:42:18] Adam: Peach schnapps fudge from Spoons Parlor.
[0:42:19 – 0:42:19] Adam: Yeah.
[0:42:19 – 0:42:20] Adam: It’s a delight.
[0:42:20 – 0:42:21] Erik: Purr.
[0:42:22 – 0:42:23] Erik: Spoons.
[0:42:23 – 0:42:24] Erik: Spoons.
[0:42:24 – 0:42:24] Erik: Spoons.
[0:42:25 – 0:42:26] Adam: Not a good name.
[0:42:26 – 0:42:29] Adam: No, it’s a great name if you want to open a parlor, though.
[0:42:29 – 0:42:33] Erik: It’s a great name for Creesaps Landing, I guess.
[0:42:34 – 0:42:37] Erik: Creosote Junction.
[0:42:37 – 0:42:38] Adam: Oh, God.
[0:42:40 – 0:42:43] Erik: Yeah, and then it’s just the children and…
[0:42:44 – 0:42:45] Erik: I got a good quote.
[0:42:45 – 0:42:45] Erik: The preacher.
[0:42:45 – 0:42:46] Adam: I got a good quote.
[0:42:46 – 0:42:50] SPEAKER_00: Tell me where the money’s hid, you little wretch, or I’ll tear your arm off.
[0:42:51 – 0:42:56] Adam: As soon as the adults are out of the room, the facade is just dropped immediately.
[0:42:57 – 0:42:57] Adam: He’s instantly…
[0:42:58 – 0:43:02] Adam: The moment he gets a chance, he’s just yelling shit like that at the kids.
[0:43:02 – 0:43:05] Erik: Well, he straight up tells the boy, like, well, mom believes me, not you.
[0:43:05 – 0:43:06] Adam: You’re an idiot.
[0:43:06 – 0:43:07] Adam: I don’t want to get you.
[0:43:07 – 0:43:08] Adam: I know things.
[0:43:09 – 0:43:11] Adam: Your father told me lots of things in prison.
[0:43:12 – 0:43:15] Adam: I like how he’s subtly menacing him, too.
[0:43:15 – 0:43:17] Adam: I mean, I don’t like it.
[0:43:17 – 0:43:18] Adam: I hate it, but it’s…
[0:43:19 – 0:43:22] Adam: It did fulfill, it achieved what it was supposed to do.
[0:43:22 – 0:43:31] Adam: It made me both scared of the preacher and, you know, I’m a little impressed by how evil he could just be so easily.
[0:43:31 – 0:43:31] Erik: Yeah.
[0:43:32 – 0:43:36] Erik: And so then they kind of pull a fast one on him.
[0:43:36 – 0:43:40] Erik: Drop some nasty old milk containers on them or something in the basement?
[0:43:41 – 0:43:43] Adam: Yeah, they got them with the old preserves.
[0:43:43 – 0:43:46] Erik: I don’t know what that was, but it was white.
[0:43:47 – 0:43:48] Adam: Dandelion wine.
[0:43:48 – 0:43:48] Adam: Probably, yeah.
[0:43:48 – 0:43:51] Adam: It was probably dandelion wine down there in the jars.
[0:43:51 – 0:43:53] Erik: How do you think he got out of the basement?
[0:43:53 – 0:43:55] Adam: He just broke the door down eventually.
[0:43:55 – 0:43:56] Adam: Slashed the door down.
[0:43:56 – 0:43:56] Adam: Yeah.
[0:43:56 – 0:43:56] Adam: Yeah.
[0:43:57 – 0:43:58] Adam: He’s big enough to smash through a door.
[0:43:59 – 0:44:02] Erik: They run down to Uncle Bertie and… Bertie.
[0:44:02 – 0:44:03] Erik: He’s just fully passed out.
[0:44:04 – 0:44:11] Erik: After he finds… We talked about how he finds the murdered woman like three feet below the surface of the crystal clear waters.
[0:44:12 – 0:44:12] Adam: Yeah.
[0:44:12 – 0:44:14] Adam: There’s no way that river’s that crystal clear.
[0:44:14 – 0:44:14] Adam: No.
[0:44:14 – 0:44:16] Adam: In that day and age, it was fully polluted.
[0:44:16 – 0:44:17] Adam: I guarantee it.
[0:44:17 – 0:44:17] Erik: Yeah.
[0:44:17 – 0:44:17] Erik: No.
[0:44:18 – 0:44:19] Erik: For sure.
[0:44:19 – 0:44:20] Adam: But, you know, I like the…
[0:44:20 – 0:44:22] Adam: The visual of it was pretty stunning.
[0:44:22 – 0:44:22] Adam: Yeah.
[0:44:23 – 0:44:24] Erik: It was good, yeah.
[0:44:24 – 0:44:27] Erik: I mean, I think you definitely kind of needed that.
[0:44:27 – 0:44:29] Adam: How did he get it all the way out there in the middle of the river?
[0:44:29 – 0:44:30] Adam: He really ramped it out there.
[0:44:30 – 0:44:31] Erik: Just full-blown.
[0:44:31 – 0:44:34] Erik: Huge brick on the accelerator.
[0:44:34 – 0:44:34] Erik: Can he swim?
[0:44:34 – 0:44:40] Erik: Because he clearly doesn’t seem like he can when the kids are getting away in the boat towards the end.
[0:44:40 – 0:44:43] Adam: He screams like they’re gone for good.
[0:44:43 – 0:44:44] Adam: Just quick swim out there and grab them.
[0:44:45 – 0:44:48] Adam: I mean, even Samwise would be able to make it out there.
[0:44:48 – 0:44:49] SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
[0:44:49 – 0:44:50] Adam: He definitely can’t swim.
[0:44:51 – 0:44:52] Adam: They’re like two feet away.
[0:44:52 – 0:44:54] Adam: Just go lunge for him.
[0:44:54 – 0:44:54] Erik: Yeah.
[0:44:55 – 0:44:56] Erik: They’re very close.
[0:44:56 – 0:44:59] Erik: And he’s in like a little bit of muck, but it’s not like crazy.
[0:44:59 – 0:45:00] Adam: No, he could have got him if he could swim.
[0:45:01 – 0:45:02] Adam: But yeah, then how do you get that car way out there?
[0:45:02 – 0:45:03] Adam: How do you get that car way out there?
[0:45:03 – 0:45:04] Erik: And nobody knew.
[0:45:04 – 0:45:06] Adam: Big brick on the accelerator trick.
[0:45:07 – 0:45:08] Erik: Yeah, big brick in that 19…
[0:45:08 – 0:45:09] Erik: Launched it off a pier.
[0:45:09 – 0:45:11] Erik: 1939 Creesap 4 or whatever.
[0:45:11 – 0:45:13] Erik: I think it was… Yeah.
[0:45:13 – 0:45:14] Erik: Did you hear it when he fired the thing up?
[0:45:14 – 0:45:15] Erik: It sounded like it barely ran.
[0:45:16 – 0:45:16] UNKNOWN: Yeah.
[0:45:17 – 0:45:35] Erik: get out and crank that thing yeah when they go down to uncle birdie’s and he’s passed out pearl just immediately falls asleep on the couch in the room just like laying like time to sleep i guess to do like we’re here now i’m sleeping well he’s sleeping i’m sleeping yeah that’s how it works
[0:45:35 – 0:45:37] Erik: And then I didn’t realize… Don’t he never sleep?
[0:45:37 – 0:45:38] Erik: Don’t he never sleep?
[0:45:38 – 0:45:45] Erik: I didn’t realize there was going to be like a 15 minute, who knows how long, like weeks long, like escape montage.
[0:45:45 – 0:45:46] Adam: Yeah.
[0:45:46 – 0:45:47] Erik: It’s epic.
[0:45:47 – 0:45:49] Adam: Starry nights on the river.
[0:45:49 – 0:45:55] Erik: Amazing shots of him like with the silhouetted horse, those barns, they finally take their chances on land.
[0:45:56 – 0:45:59] Erik: Like they get some raw potatoes at some point.
[0:45:59 – 0:46:01] Erik: He could get one potato each.
[0:46:01 – 0:46:03] Erik: Immediately start eating raw potatoes.
[0:46:03 – 0:46:07] Adam: Hey, they should watch The Martian and plant those potatoes to make more potatoes.
[0:46:07 – 0:46:10] Erik: Yeah, and shit in a bag and let it turn into compost or whatever.
[0:46:11 – 0:46:12] Adam: That’d be the smart play.
[0:46:12 – 0:46:15] Erik: Yeah, if Matt Damon’s taught me anything, that’s what you do.
[0:46:16 – 0:46:17] Adam: I know how to grow more potatoes.
[0:46:18 – 0:46:19] Adam: That’s a treasure.
[0:46:20 – 0:46:22] Adam: Give a kid a potato they eat for a day.
[0:46:22 – 0:46:26] Adam: Teach a kid how to subdivide the potato and plant it in their own bag of shit.
[0:46:26 – 0:46:27] Adam: They’ll eat for a whole week.
[0:46:27 – 0:46:30] Erik: You just got to make sure you get the little parts of the eyes.
[0:46:31 – 0:46:32] Adam: Yeah, that’s how you do it.
[0:46:32 – 0:46:37] Adam: Yeah, there’s a bunch of great wildlife, though, in this movie, including a huge toad.
[0:46:37 – 0:46:39] Adam: I was super impressed by Toadie making a…
[0:46:40 – 0:46:40] Adam: Yes.
[0:46:40 – 0:46:44] Erik: Toadie in the creek gang is making an appearance.
[0:46:44 – 0:46:49] Erik: Yeah, I didn’t appreciate what seemed like a live owl that had strings attached to it.
[0:46:49 – 0:46:49] Adam: Yeah.
[0:46:50 – 0:46:51] Erik: What the hell was that?
[0:46:51 – 0:46:54] Adam: He was glued to a zip line somehow.
[0:46:54 – 0:46:54] Adam: His head was like…
[0:46:54 – 0:46:58] Adam: It may have been taxidermy, but I’m pretty sure it was a live owl.
[0:46:58 – 0:47:22] Erik: yeah live owl attached to like fishing line to make sure it didn’t run off hang on to that thing tie it down with some horse hair so it can’t get away yeah tell me your movie from the 50s without telling me you’re a movie from the 50s have some live animals attached to strings in the yeah in the credits for this movie it says animals were harmed yeah specifically i’m here to see the animals be harmed that’s why that’s why they pay me the big bucks
[0:47:22 – 0:47:24] Erik: How did they get collected up?
[0:47:24 – 0:47:24] Erik: I mean, I don’t know.
[0:47:25 – 0:47:34] Erik: We could talk about the amazing boat river chase sequence and just like how they got some of those shots with like the moon and the stars.
[0:47:34 – 0:47:36] Adam: The crescent moon and the stars are great.
[0:47:36 – 0:47:38] Adam: I would love to know how that was like produced.
[0:47:38 – 0:47:38] Erik: Yeah.
[0:47:39 – 0:47:42] Erik: But then they get collected up by an old egg lady and they end up in a big city.
[0:47:43 – 0:47:44] Adam: Mrs. Hooper.
[0:47:44 – 0:47:44] Adam: Yeah.
[0:47:44 – 0:47:48] Erik: I mean, she’s like the Marge Gunderson of this movie, right?
[0:47:48 – 0:47:49] Adam: The light versus the evil.
[0:47:49 – 0:47:50] Adam: Exactly.
[0:47:50 – 0:47:52] Adam: She’s the true preacher.
[0:47:52 – 0:47:53] Erik: Right.
[0:47:53 – 0:47:56] Adam: She’s actually living by the principles of Jesus.
[0:47:57 – 0:47:59] Erik: She’s a strong tree, strong branches for many birds.
[0:47:59 – 0:48:00] Adam: That’s right.
[0:48:00 – 0:48:03] Adam: Many birds, a lot of warblers probably, and then branches.
[0:48:04 – 0:48:04] Erik: Yep.
[0:48:06 – 0:48:08] Adam: I have that one written down, too.
[0:48:08 – 0:48:10] Adam: I’m a strong tree with branches for mini birds.
[0:48:11 – 0:48:12] SPEAKER_00: Including Uncle Birdie?
[0:48:14 – 0:48:42] Erik: no no not that bird that bird ain’t getting in the branch sorry that’s a ground bird that’s more of a uncle bird he’s more of a wet bird he’s a real wet bird that one oh man yeah i love uh i was not expecting the turn with the the orphanage woman to be as actually strong as she ended up being as a character
[0:48:42 – 0:48:43] Adam: Yeah, that was great.
[0:48:43 – 0:48:44] Adam: She stood up to him.
[0:48:44 – 0:48:51] Erik: Yeah, fully sniffed him out, knew the whole scene, and was actually good to those kids, was teaching them real lessons.
[0:48:52 – 0:49:03] Erik: I think there was probably some motivation from her because it sounded like, I think she said her son died at some point, so she probably was taking a real shine to, what was the little kid’s name, actually?
[0:49:03 – 0:49:03] Erik: John.
[0:49:04 – 0:49:05] Erik: Yeah, I mean…
[0:49:05 – 0:49:09] Erik: I found it very heartwarming, the whole ending with her.
[0:49:10 – 0:49:12] Erik: You really exposed Harry.
[0:49:12 – 0:49:19] Erik: I mean, you obviously knew that he was a real menace, but he seemed even crazier at the end when she was in the movie and when he showed up.
[0:49:19 – 0:49:21] Erik: I didn’t have any concern.
[0:49:21 – 0:49:29] Erik: Once she was involved, I was like, I have total faith that the good is actually going to… Love overcomes hate.
[0:49:29 – 0:49:31] Adam: You’re doing the thing with the hands again, Eric.
[0:49:31 – 0:49:54] Adam: yeah and she she’s the love over hate and he is the hate and him showing maybe a real demon honestly yeah yeah because he does seem to even get crazier when encountered with such good he’s like in the world when he gets shot or whatever yeah did he get shot what happened he winged him i love him he’s just like i’ll be back after it’s dark okay jesus christ buddy yeah
[0:49:54 – 0:50:03] Adam: don’t he ever sleep yeah my god maybe he is like a bona fide demon yeah maybe he does yeah maybe he’s not maybe because he does get shot but he’s not like
[0:50:04 – 0:50:10] Erik: I mean, I’m sure they can’t show a whole face riddled with buckshot, but he doesn’t even look like…
[0:50:10 – 0:50:12] Erik: He just kind of comes stumbling out of a barn.
[0:50:12 – 0:50:12] Adam: Yeah.
[0:50:13 – 0:50:13] SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
[0:50:14 – 0:50:16] Adam: Maybe he’s not a real human.
[0:50:16 – 0:50:16] Erik: Yeah.
[0:50:16 – 0:50:18] Erik: I mean, that’s…
[0:50:18 – 0:50:21] Erik: I mean, this is, again, talking about Cape Fear.
[0:50:21 – 0:50:22] Erik: There is some weird parallels there.
[0:50:25 – 0:50:45] Erik: to uh a home invasion scene that’s i mean i would say in line with in terms of like actual like fear factor and like edge of your seat this is kind of scary when he’s out in that yard and the girl comes in with a candle and she blows it out and he’s gone yeah she’s like in the 50s damn i’m sure people were like pissing their pants what are you doing
[0:50:46 – 0:50:46] Erik: Jesus.
[0:50:47 – 0:50:48] Adam: What’s her name?
[0:50:48 – 0:50:48] Adam: Ruby?
[0:50:48 – 0:50:50] Adam: Yeah.
[0:50:50 – 0:50:51] Adam: Ruby just constantly causing stuff.
[0:50:51 – 0:50:54] Erik: Something about all women are fools or something.
[0:50:56 – 0:50:58] Adam: She knows, man.
[0:50:58 – 0:51:00] Adam: She really messed up like three times in a row.
[0:51:00 – 0:51:03] Adam: She just like constantly puts the whole like orphanage in danger.
[0:51:03 – 0:51:03] Erik: Yeah.
[0:51:04 – 0:51:07] Erik: just going out to get ice cream with like a 40 year old preacher.
[0:51:08 – 0:51:09] Erik: She just met him there.
[0:51:09 – 0:51:10] Adam: Yeah.
[0:51:10 – 0:51:11] Adam: I don’t think she met him there.
[0:51:11 – 0:51:14] Adam: I think she was just there and he showed up like, I’m gonna buy you some ice cream.
[0:51:14 – 0:51:15] Adam: She’s like, I guess.
[0:51:15 – 0:51:15] Erik: Yeah.
[0:51:15 – 0:51:17] Erik: She was kind of getting like heckled by boys her age.
[0:51:17 – 0:51:21] Erik: And then he shows up and it’s just like, yes, ice cream.
[0:51:21 – 0:51:22] Erik: And then she comes home and,
[0:51:23 – 0:51:24] Adam: I’ve been out with men.
[0:51:24 – 0:51:26] Adam: I’ve been unclean.
[0:51:26 – 0:51:29] Adam: How do you mean by that exactly?
[0:51:29 – 0:51:31] Erik: You look like you’re out with men.
[0:51:31 – 0:51:33] Erik: You’re eating ice cream with old men.
[0:51:33 – 0:51:35] Erik: You’ve been sitting in an ice cream parlor having sundaes.
[0:51:36 – 0:51:38] Adam: Oh, the damn parlors of this age.
[0:51:39 – 0:51:44] Erik: Just wailing over having some ice creams.
[0:51:47 – 0:51:51] Adam: I mean, Eric, just speaking personally, I mean, I am a huge slut for ice cream.
[0:51:51 – 0:51:54] Erik: I am too, but I don’t cry in the morning about it.
[0:51:54 – 0:51:55] Adam: I’ve been out with men.
[0:51:56 – 0:51:57] Adam: Eat ice cream.
[0:51:57 – 0:51:58] Erik: Eat ice cream.
[0:51:59 – 0:52:00] Erik: He bought me a magazine.
[0:52:02 – 0:52:03] Erik: On the film.
[0:52:03 – 0:52:05] Erik: A movie magazine.
[0:52:05 – 0:52:05] Erik: Cinema, yeah.
[0:52:06 – 0:52:07] Adam: A movie magazine.
[0:52:09 – 0:52:09] Erik: Uh, yeah.
[0:52:09 – 0:52:13] Erik: And then he, I mean, he kind of gets just clearly.
[0:52:13 – 0:52:17] Adam: They got the classic like town mob where they’re breaking up furniture and lighting torches.
[0:52:18 – 0:52:19] Erik: I was a little confused at the end.
[0:52:19 – 0:52:20] Erik: What are they screaming about?
[0:52:20 – 0:52:21] Erik: Bluebeard?
[0:52:21 – 0:52:23] Erik: Is that an old term for something?
[0:52:23 – 0:52:24] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:52:24 – 0:52:25] Erik: I mean, you heard him say that, right?
[0:52:25 – 0:52:26] Erik: I don’t.
[0:52:26 – 0:52:27] Erik: You’re like, Bluebeard!
[0:52:27 – 0:52:28] Erik: It’s Bluebeard!
[0:52:29 – 0:52:31] Adam: I don’t have that in my notes.
[0:52:31 – 0:52:36] Adam: That’s not what I heard at all, but I don’t have anything that even sounds close to that in my notes.
[0:52:36 – 0:52:39] Erik: It felt like they were coming after the orphans for a little bit.
[0:52:39 – 0:52:40] Erik: Oh, no.
[0:52:40 – 0:52:42] Erik: Didn’t it feel like they were kind of chasing the orphans out of the streets?
[0:52:43 – 0:52:44] Erik: They were just trying to get out of harm’s way.
[0:52:44 – 0:52:45] Erik: That’s how crazy the mob was.
[0:52:45 – 0:52:49] Adam: The mob can’t be stopped when they get into that kind of state of mind.
[0:52:50 – 0:52:58] Erik: Do you think maybe one of the bigger questions at the end of the movie I had, too, was why does John freak out as Harry’s getting arrested and give away all the money?
[0:52:59 – 0:53:05] Adam: Because he had the same reaction when they arrested his pa. Is it just a PTSD kind of a thing?
[0:53:05 – 0:53:06] Adam: Yeah, I think so.
[0:53:07 – 0:53:08] Adam: And he snaps finally.
[0:53:08 – 0:53:09] Adam: He can’t take it anymore.
[0:53:10 – 0:53:11] Adam: I just don’t want to be done with all this.
[0:53:11 – 0:53:12] Erik: The money’s given him too much.
[0:53:13 – 0:53:15] Adam: Yeah, it took my father, put us on the run.
[0:53:18 – 0:53:20] Adam: Now it’s just nothing but trouble, this money.
[0:53:21 – 0:53:23] Erik: He doesn’t turn him in either when he’s on the stand.
[0:53:24 – 0:53:27] Adam: Right, he refuses to finger him.
[0:53:27 – 0:53:30] Erik: I understand.
[0:53:30 – 0:53:31] Adam: Mitchum got fingered.
[0:53:32 – 0:53:33] Adam: Not in this movie, though.
[0:53:34 – 0:53:35] Erik: Mitchum got the rub down this time.
[0:53:38 – 0:53:39] Adam: Reverse Mitchum.
[0:53:39 – 0:53:41] Adam: Mitchum got Mitchum.
[0:53:41 – 0:53:42] Adam: Oh, Jesus.
[0:53:42 – 0:53:43] Adam: Oh, no.
[0:53:43 – 0:53:44] Erik: Oh, man.
[0:53:44 – 0:53:49] Erik: Yeah, and then it’s like an amazing last wholesome Christmas scene.
[0:53:49 – 0:53:50] Erik: Yeah.
[0:53:50 – 0:53:52] Erik: He gets a sick-ass pocket watch.
[0:53:52 – 0:53:52] Adam: Yeah.
[0:53:52 – 0:53:55] Adam: You got to track the minutes, John.
[0:53:55 – 0:53:56] Erik: Gives her the apple back.
[0:53:56 – 0:54:01] Erik: He’s trying to get in the window here.
[0:54:01 – 0:54:04] Erik: Probably a big moth or Junebug bouncing against it.
[0:54:05 – 0:54:06] Erik: Moth, maybe?
[0:54:06 – 0:54:07] Erik: Is it Mitchum out there?
[0:54:07 – 0:54:09] Erik: Oh my god, if Mitchum comes in here, I’m done.
[0:54:09 – 0:54:12] Erik: You start hearing some hymns, we got problems.
[0:54:13 – 0:54:15] Adam: Yeah, you never want to hear any singing when you’re on the river.
[0:54:15 – 0:54:16] Adam: No.
[0:54:16 – 0:54:20] Adam: This is the original banjo, it’s just Mitchum singing a hymn.
[0:54:21 – 0:54:21] Erik: Yeah.
[0:54:22 – 0:54:24] Adam: Yeah, it’s a really nice Christmas, though.
[0:54:24 – 0:54:25] Erik: It’s a great Christmas movie.
[0:54:25 – 0:54:26] Erik: It looks very cozy.
[0:54:26 – 0:54:29] Erik: It looks like a sweet little, like, cleaned everything up.
[0:54:30 – 0:54:31] Erik: Whatever town, bigger town.
[0:54:31 – 0:54:32] Erik: Yeah.
[0:54:32 – 0:54:33] Erik: Bigger port town.
[0:54:33 – 0:54:38] Adam: Harold’s giving some real weird looks to this window over here.
[0:54:38 – 0:54:39] Adam: Yeah.
[0:54:39 – 0:54:41] Erik: I can hear it even with my headphones on.
[0:54:41 – 0:54:43] Erik: I see the outline of a big brimmed hat.
[0:54:43 – 0:54:45] Adam: I’m going to see the shadow behind you.
[0:54:45 – 0:54:47] Adam: Don’t worry, Pearl.
[0:54:48 – 0:54:50] Adam: That’s just a man out there singing a hymn.
[0:54:50 – 0:54:52] Erik: Just a man singing in the night.
[0:54:52 – 0:54:54] Erik: My last note is, what do you think happened to Uncle Bertie?
[0:54:55 – 0:54:57] Adam: He’s just still laying there on the…
[0:54:57 – 0:54:57] Adam: He’s moored.
[0:54:58 – 0:55:00] Adam: He’s just moored waiting to shovel some coal into the boiler.
[0:55:01 – 0:55:03] Adam: He’s just putting stuff in the boiler.
[0:55:04 – 0:55:04] Adam: In general.
[0:55:05 – 0:55:06] Adam: In a general sort of way.
[0:55:07 – 0:55:09] Erik: Literal boilers and his boiler.
[0:55:09 – 0:55:11] Adam: Everybody’s got a boiler.
[0:55:11 – 0:55:12] Erik: Everybody’s got a boiler.
[0:55:12 – 0:55:14] Erik: His just needs a little more stoking than others.
[0:55:14 – 0:55:15] Erik: That’s right.
[0:55:16 – 0:55:17] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:55:17 – 0:55:27] Erik: I mean, there’s definitely movies on the TCC list that I think I probably have rewatched since we’ve done them, and I will for sure rewatch.
[0:55:27 – 0:55:33] Erik: There’s a vast, vast majority of them that I will never ever watch again that I totally forgot that we did.
[0:55:33 – 0:55:35] Erik: I kind of scrolled back through the history a little bit.
[0:55:35 – 0:55:37] Erik: I was like, oh, shit, we did that?
[0:55:38 – 0:55:41] Erik: Yeah, this is definitely a movie I could see myself watching again in the future.
[0:55:41 – 0:55:45] Erik: I’m probably going to slip it in unbeknownst to my family this Christmas.
[0:55:45 – 0:55:46] Erik: Tell them it’s a Christmas movie.
[0:55:46 – 0:55:49] Adam: Oh, this is my favorite Christmas movie.
[0:55:49 – 0:55:52] Adam: Tell them that and put it on Christmas Eve, I would say.
[0:55:52 – 0:55:52] Erik: Yeah.
[0:55:53 – 0:55:55] Erik: Yeah, Christmas Eve, especially with all the children around.
[0:55:55 – 0:55:56] Adam: A lot of good cheer.
[0:55:57 – 0:55:57] Adam: Yeah.
[0:55:57 – 0:55:59] Adam: A lot of scripture.
[0:55:59 – 0:56:01] Adam: We got a lot of nice scripture in this movie.
[0:56:01 – 0:56:02] Adam: It’s great for Christmas.
[0:56:02 – 0:56:03] Erik: I think it is.
[0:56:03 – 0:56:10] Erik: I think in general, besides like the mood, Mitchum being an absolute tyrant, there really isn’t anything.
[0:56:12 – 0:56:14] Erik: I mean, it’s actually got a pretty good message.
[0:56:14 – 0:56:15] Erik: Yeah.
[0:56:15 – 0:56:17] Erik: And everything turns out, I think.
[0:56:17 – 0:56:17] Erik: Yeah.
[0:56:18 – 0:56:24] Erik: And I feel like, you know, at the end of some of these movies, you’re just like, well, I have no idea what’s going to happen to these people.
[0:56:24 – 0:56:28] Erik: I have a good feeling about all of those kids and specifically John and Pearl.
[0:56:28 – 0:56:29] Erik: They’re going to be all right.
[0:56:29 – 0:56:30] Adam: Yeah, I think so.
[0:56:31 – 0:56:32] Adam: It all worked out good.
[0:56:33 – 0:56:34] Adam: Do you have the director?
[0:56:34 – 0:56:37] Adam: I have no notes on who directed this.
[0:56:37 – 0:56:40] Erik: No, you didn’t write that down in the beginning when they were doing the early credits?
[0:56:40 – 0:56:42] Erik: I know, I was too worried about the hairstylist.
[0:56:42 – 0:56:43] Erik: Yeah, you got Kay in.
[0:56:43 – 0:56:44] Erik: Kay Shay.
[0:56:44 – 0:56:47] Erik: Kay Shay’s got the shout-out, but…
[0:56:48 – 0:56:51] Adam: I feel like the director should get a shout-out in this one.
[0:56:51 – 0:56:53] Adam: Yeah.
[0:56:53 – 0:56:54] Adam: I got who wrote the book.
[0:56:55 – 0:56:56] Adam: I’ve never heard of the book.
[0:56:56 – 0:57:00] Adam: I’d be interested to see how that goes.
[0:57:01 – 0:57:02] Adam: Charles Lawton.
[0:57:03 – 0:57:03] Adam: Lawton.
[0:57:03 – 0:57:04] Adam: Classic Lawton.
[0:57:04 – 0:57:05] Adam: Charles Lawton.
[0:57:06 – 0:57:07] Adam: Lawton’s greatest achievement.
[0:57:08 – 0:57:11] Erik: Died in 1962, so pretty shortly later.
[0:57:11 – 0:57:13] Erik: Well, it’s 63.
[0:57:13 – 0:57:15] Erik: Let’s see.
[0:57:15 – 0:57:17] Erik: Anything else that I’ve heard of?
[0:57:17 – 0:57:20] Erik: Oh, we did Mutiny on the Bounty in 1935.
[0:57:20 – 0:57:21] Erik: That’s well known.
[0:57:21 – 0:57:23] Erik: Oh, fucking Spartacus?
[0:57:23 – 0:57:23] Erik: Okay.
[0:57:24 – 0:57:24] Erik: Loudon.
[0:57:25 – 0:57:32] Erik: Yeah, Spartacus is probably on this list, probably the most well-known, I would say.
[0:57:33 – 0:57:37] Erik: This and Spartacus, Hunchback of Notre Dame, who knows?
[0:57:37 – 0:57:38] Erik: That’s been done 80 times.
[0:57:38 – 0:57:38] Adam: Take it or leave it.
[0:57:38 – 0:57:39] Adam: Yeah.
[0:57:40 – 0:57:42] Erik: The Private Life of Henry VIII.
[0:57:43 – 0:57:45] Erik: I believe I’ve heard of that, but I could be wrong.
[0:57:48 – 0:57:54] Erik: There’s just one movie from 19… One movie from… One movie from 1958 just called The Big Clock.
[0:57:54 – 0:57:55] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:58:02 – 0:58:05] Adam: It’s all about the pocket watch that John got.
[0:58:06 – 0:58:08] Erik: Yes.
[0:58:08 – 0:58:19] Erik: It’s a prequel that came out seven years before this, but it’s also about John in the future.
[0:58:19 – 0:58:20] Erik: Mm-hmm.
[0:58:22 – 0:58:22] Erik: I mean…
[0:58:24 – 0:58:24] Erik: Wow.
[0:58:25 – 0:58:28] Adam: There is actually a big clock.
[0:58:28 – 0:58:29] Adam: There’s a huge clock.
[0:58:29 – 0:58:29] Adam: Wow.
[0:58:29 – 0:58:34] Adam: This is like a Hudsucker proxy prequel.
[0:58:34 – 0:58:34] Erik: Kind of looks like it.
[0:58:34 – 0:58:35] Erik: Yeah.
[0:58:35 – 0:58:40] Erik: The tagline is the strangest and most savage manhunt in history.
[0:58:41 – 0:58:42] Erik: All right.
[0:58:42 – 0:58:43] Erik: Big clock going on the board?
[0:58:43 – 0:58:44] Erik: Yeah.
[0:58:44 – 0:58:45] Erik: The big clock.
[0:58:46 – 0:58:46] Erik: Damn.
[0:58:47 – 0:58:48] Erik: I’m intrigued, actually.
[0:58:48 – 0:58:50] Adam: We should do a whole series of movies that feature big clocks.
[0:58:51 – 0:58:51] Erik: There you go.
[0:58:51 – 0:58:55] Erik: I mean, it’s a noir thriller at an hour and 35.
[0:58:55 – 0:58:56] Erik: That is one thing.
[0:58:56 – 0:58:58] Erik: I think we said it right before we got on, Mike.
[0:58:58 – 0:59:01] Erik: I always appreciate a little tight runtime if it makes sense.
[0:59:01 – 0:59:01] Adam: Yeah.
[0:59:01 – 0:59:07] Erik: You know, some of these three-hour movies, I can take them or leave them if it needs to be told in that length of time.
[0:59:07 – 0:59:12] Erik: I’ll sit down and watch a three-hour movie, but I don’t need to watch it if it’s just a bunch of nothing.
[0:59:13 – 0:59:15] Erik: I prefer a movie that gets in and gets out, you know?
[0:59:16 – 0:59:19] Erik: It’s not like I need to…
[0:59:19 – 0:59:25] Erik: I could go either way on it, but it’s always appreciated when they do a nice, solid 90-minute movie.
[0:59:25 – 0:59:26] Erik: I don’t know if it’s always been like that.
[0:59:27 – 0:59:29] Erik: It just seems like they’re getting long these days, doesn’t it?
[0:59:29 – 0:59:30] Erik: Yeah, they are.
[0:59:30 – 0:59:32] Erik: Christ, there’s three…
[0:59:32 – 0:59:36] Adam: It’s a trilogy, and each one’s three hours long.
[0:59:36 – 0:59:39] Adam: Oh, I spent a whole winter watching The Lord of the Rings.
[0:59:39 – 0:59:39] Adam: Yeah.
[0:59:40 – 0:59:41] Erik: Yeah, that’s about how long it takes.
[0:59:41 – 0:59:42] Erik: Yeah, I’m not seeing anything.
[0:59:42 – 0:59:46] Erik: It’s a project.
[0:59:47 – 0:59:47] Adam: Yeah.
[0:59:47 – 0:59:48] Adam: Spartacus.
[0:59:48 – 0:59:49] Adam: I’m glad we looked it up.
[0:59:49 – 0:59:50] Adam: Lawton.
[0:59:50 – 0:59:51] Erik: Yeah, never do in Spartacus.
[0:59:51 – 0:59:53] Erik: I don’t think I could rewatch that one ever.
[0:59:53 – 0:59:56] Adam: Not enough canoes in Spartacus for Tumblum Cinema Classics.
[0:59:56 – 0:59:58] Erik: Laurence Olivier.
[0:59:58 – 0:59:59] Erik: Yeah, Night of the Hunter.
[0:59:59 – 1:00:08] Erik: Also, just the cover of the movie with Mitchum kind of looking devious and his hands kind of over.
[1:00:08 – 1:00:09] Erik: And you can see the hate.
[1:00:10 – 1:00:11] Erik: You don’t see love.
[1:00:11 – 1:00:12] Erik: You see the hate.
[1:00:12 – 1:00:12] Adam: Shows the hate.
[1:00:13 – 1:00:14] Adam: Well, hate’s the first one you see.
[1:00:15 – 1:00:17] Adam: Or no, do I have that backwards in the film?
[1:00:17 – 1:00:20] Adam: I think you just see hate at first.
[1:00:20 – 1:00:22] Adam: Yeah, because he’s driving and hate’s the left hand.
[1:00:23 – 1:00:24] Adam: And love is the right.
[1:00:24 – 1:00:26] Adam: So at first you just see hate.
[1:00:26 – 1:00:28] Adam: Because in my notes too, I was like, I’m pretty sure.
[1:00:28 – 1:00:31] Adam: I knew immediately that the money was in the dolly.
[1:00:31 – 1:00:33] Adam: I remember that being very clear.
[1:00:34 – 1:00:39] Adam: And then I was pretty sure the hands were love and hate, but you don’t see love right away until he tells the story for the first time.
[1:00:39 – 1:00:39] Adam: Yeah.
[1:00:39 – 1:00:42] Adam: When he’s driving the car like a creep, you can see hate right away.
[1:00:43 – 1:00:45] Adam: So it makes sense that they would show hate first.
[1:00:47 – 1:00:47] Adam: Yeah.
[1:00:47 – 1:00:48] Adam: Yeah.
[1:00:48 – 1:00:49] Erik: Okay.
[1:00:49 – 1:00:50] Erik: Nice.
[1:00:50 – 1:00:50] Erik: Solid.
[1:00:51 – 1:00:51] Erik: Pretty good one.
[1:00:51 – 1:00:52] Erik: Glad we did this.
[1:00:52 – 1:00:56] Adam: Yeah, I’m glad it was on the board for that long and that we finally got to it.
[1:00:57 – 1:00:58] Adam: So thanks for watching it.
[1:00:58 – 1:00:59] Adam: Thanks for listening.
[1:01:00 – 1:01:04] Adam: Thank you, Patreons, for your continued support of Tumble Home Cinema Classics.
[1:01:06 – 1:01:12] Adam: We really need to catalog all of them so we know what we’ve done at this point because we’ve done enough where I’m forgetting movies that we’ve done.
[1:01:12 – 1:01:13] Adam: We have gotten to that point now.
[1:01:15 – 1:01:18] Erik: Well, you can look forward to our final conclusion.
[1:01:18 – 1:01:29] Erik: We’re going to see if the Mall of America does in fact get destroyed and if Gordon Bombay’s soul will be set free because of it in D3.
[1:01:30 – 1:01:34] Erik: Can’t wait to conclude the conspiracy chat on that one next week.
[1:01:35 – 1:01:36] Erik: And then we don’t know where we’re going to go from there.
[1:01:36 – 1:01:39] Erik: I think the Mitchum sandwiches are probably behind us.
[1:01:39 – 1:01:40] Erik: I haven’t really looked up Mitchum’s IMDb.
[1:01:40 – 1:01:42] Erik: I have to look up what else is Mitchum in.
[1:01:42 – 1:01:45] Erik: There might be a Dark Horse Mitchum that we’re missing.
[1:01:45 – 1:01:53] Adam: Yeah, if there’s a Mitchum like any other movie from Mitchum that looks like it’s got a lot of camping in it, I’d be at least interested for sure.
[1:01:54 – 1:01:55] Adam: Mitchum is pretty great.
[1:01:56 – 1:01:58] Erik: Yeah, I loved him in this.
[1:01:58 – 1:01:58] Erik: He was…
[1:01:59 – 1:02:01] Erik: Fine in The River of No Return.
[1:02:01 – 1:02:02] Erik: I’m glad I saw this.
[1:02:02 – 1:02:09] Erik: Otherwise, I probably always would have associated them with the… Yeah, we’ve watched them in the proper order chronologically.
[1:02:09 – 1:02:11] Erik: Yeah, they’ll just do all Mitchum.
[1:02:12 – 1:02:13] Adam: All Mitchum summer.
[1:02:13 – 1:02:16] Erik: It’s kind of the summer of…
[1:02:16 – 1:02:33] Erik: Wherever the wind blows, wherever our heartstrings tug us towards trying to keep some aspect of either a canoe in the background or an Uncle Bertie gar rip, that was just an extra added bonus on top of the Mitchum.
[1:02:34 – 1:02:35] Adam: The Gar rep was excellent.
[1:02:35 – 1:02:40] Adam: Yeah, that was all-time great for hook set and film, all-time great.
[1:02:41 – 1:02:44] Adam: Possibly nominated for a tumbly this year for hook set of the year.
[1:02:44 – 1:02:46] Erik: Hook set of the year, Borderland Lebby on that one.
[1:02:46 – 1:02:48] Adam: Yeah, absolutely, Borderland Lebby.
[1:02:49 – 1:02:50] Erik: Thank you for joining us.
[1:02:51 – 1:02:52] Erik: See you in the mezzanine next week.
[1:02:53 – 1:02:54] Adam: Throw the curtain.
