294: Garbanzos and Claws


Episode Transcript

[0:00:23 – 0:00:24] UNKNOWN: Thank you.
[0:00:36 – 0:00:41] Adam: Welcome to Tumble Home Boundary Waters Podcast.
[0:00:41 – 0:00:42] Adam: My name is Adam.
[0:00:42 – 0:00:44] Adam: Joining me here in the Tumble Shed is my dear friend Eric.
[0:00:45 – 0:00:46] Adam: Good evening, sir.
[0:00:46 – 0:00:47] Adam: We are so back.
[0:00:48 – 0:00:50] Adam: We’re bad and we’re back.
[0:00:50 – 0:00:51] Adam: Oh, we’re bad and back.
[0:00:51 – 0:00:53] Erik: That’s what the kids are saying these days, right?
[0:00:55 – 0:00:59] Adam: This is episode 294 of Tumble Home, a proud independent podcast.
[0:01:00 – 0:01:05] Adam: And I have a correction, immediate correction to issue.
[0:01:05 – 0:01:06] Adam: I do know a Drake song.
[0:01:07 – 0:01:08] Erik: Oh, wow.
[0:01:08 – 0:01:10] Adam: Yeah, it’s Hotline Bling.
[0:01:10 – 0:01:12] Erik: Hey, there it is, the meme song.
[0:01:12 – 0:01:20] Adam: I know Hotline Bling, and I think you remember I used to, back in the day, hold Pike up to my head like it was a big Zack Morris-style cell phone.
[0:01:20 – 0:01:21] Erik: Yeah, Pike Phone.
[0:01:21 – 0:01:22] Adam: Pike Phone Bling.
[0:01:22 – 0:01:23] Adam: Yes.
[0:01:23 – 0:01:23] Adam: There we go.
[0:01:23 – 0:01:24] Adam: That’s right.
[0:01:24 – 0:01:25] Adam: Fact check.
[0:01:25 – 0:01:54] Erik: on the fly here on a beautiful friday night on the north shore the one fact from the last month’s worth of in the field recordings that you want to correct i’m being very thorough everything the only thing i have to correct everything else we were 100 right on as as usual yeah yeah it’s actually uh it’s pretty impressive kind of disappointing actually that we did get one thing wrong i know it really burns my chaps germs my chirps i only have one question for you
[0:01:55 – 0:01:57] Erik: That is, what would you do?
[0:01:57 – 0:01:58] Erik: Oh, no.
[0:01:58 – 0:02:04] Erik: If you were asked to give up your dreams for freedom.
[0:02:04 – 0:02:06] Adam: There’s a heavy fee.
[0:02:09 – 0:02:10] Adam: Yeah, that’s a tough one.
[0:02:10 – 0:02:11] Erik: Okay.
[0:02:11 – 0:02:17] Erik: Well, while you mull that over, I will say that we are back in the mezzanine tonight.
[0:02:17 – 0:02:18] Erik: This is apropos of nothing.
[0:02:19 – 0:02:22] Adam: I would probably think about my saddest memory I could ever think of.
[0:02:23 – 0:02:24] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:02:24 – 0:02:25] Adam: And that would help you.
[0:02:26 – 0:02:29] Adam: To… Act your way through any situation.
[0:02:29 – 0:02:31] Adam: To go, you know, fight for freedom.
[0:02:31 – 0:02:31] Erik: Mm-hmm.
[0:02:32 – 0:02:32] Erik: Yeah.
[0:02:33 – 0:02:37] Adam: We’re talking Team America, World Police, this week on the TCC.
[0:02:38 – 0:02:41] Adam: Somehow better than it was when it came out in 2004.
[0:02:42 – 0:02:43] Erik: We’ll get into that.
[0:02:43 – 0:02:45] Erik: I don’t know if I necessarily feel the same way.
[0:02:45 – 0:02:46] Adam: It stands up.
[0:02:46 – 0:02:46] Erik: It does.
[0:02:46 – 0:02:47] Erik: It isn’t…
[0:02:48 – 0:02:52] Erik: It’s not cringey or anything, but… No, it’s almost like more prescient.
[0:02:52 – 0:02:53] Erik: It’s a little…
[0:02:53 – 0:02:55] Erik: There’s some things that are just a little…
[0:02:55 – 0:02:58] Erik: I have some issue with.
[0:02:59 – 0:02:59] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:02:59 – 0:03:04] Erik: But that’s just your… What are they?
[0:03:04 – 0:03:05] Erik: Matt Stone?
[0:03:05 – 0:03:06] Erik: Trey Parker?
[0:03:06 – 0:03:07] Erik: Did I get it right?
[0:03:07 – 0:03:08] Erik: Or did I mix up the names?
[0:03:08 – 0:03:09] Erik: Matt Parker?
[0:03:09 – 0:03:10] Erik: It’s Trey Parker.
[0:03:10 – 0:03:10] Erik: Trey Parker?
[0:03:11 – 0:03:12] Adam: It’s Trey Stone.
[0:03:12 – 0:03:12] Adam: Matt Parker?
[0:03:13 – 0:03:33] Erik: and matt that’s right stone yeah it’s just the south part the south part guys have always been uh you know anti-celebrity so that’s the one aspect of the movie that i’ve never really i never really laugh at that ever i don’t know why what did matt dylan ever do these guys for real matt dylan or matt damon
[0:03:36 – 0:03:39] Adam: Yeah, Matt Damon.
[0:03:39 – 0:03:40] Adam: Yeah.
[0:03:40 – 0:03:44] Erik: Yeah, it’s been like, oh, I don’t know, a month since we’ve been in the mezzanine.
[0:03:44 – 0:03:53] Erik: Can’t wait to get back up in there and share all of our thoughts on our first… What would you even call this?
[0:03:53 – 0:03:55] Erik: A puppet movie?
[0:03:55 – 0:03:56] Erik: There’s still a submarine.
[0:03:56 – 0:03:57] Erik: There is.
[0:03:57 – 0:03:58] Erik: There’s a submarine in there.
[0:03:59 – 0:04:01] Erik: The tail end of sub-month.
[0:04:02 – 0:04:04] Adam: Yeah, we’ve slithered back into the sea.
[0:04:04 – 0:04:05] Adam: Just a little.
[0:04:05 – 0:04:06] Adam: Just a little bit.
[0:04:06 – 0:04:10] Adam: But mostly we’re in a helicopter with a police siren.
[0:04:10 – 0:04:12] Adam: Maybe we’re into our helicopter era.
[0:04:12 – 0:04:13] Adam: Yeah, I would hope.
[0:04:13 – 0:04:15] Adam: Because we did see a helicopter on trousers.
[0:04:16 – 0:04:17] Adam: Yeah.
[0:04:17 – 0:04:20] Adam: So maybe we moved into helicopter times.
[0:04:21 – 0:04:23] Erik: What would Team Canada’s helicopter song be?
[0:04:24 – 0:04:24] Erik: Yeah.
[0:04:25 – 0:04:49] Adam: uh now i’m thinking about uh dreyfus flying a float plane again alive what was that movie called alive no it was alive no alive was a movie but we did that dreyfus the firefighter movie yeah too that’s the one i’m thinking of isn’t it no alive is the plane crash the the andean soccer team who have they have to eat human flesh
[0:04:49 – 0:04:51] Adam: No, you, yeah, you are right.
[0:04:52 – 0:04:54] Adam: That is the one about the Andes.
[0:04:54 – 0:05:00] Erik: A movie so obscure, it’s only been a couple of years since we’ve talked about it and we cannot for the life of us remember anything about it.
[0:05:01 – 0:05:02] Erik: Except for the fact that Dreyfus was in it.
[0:05:02 – 0:05:04] Adam: There’s something stupid like life.
[0:05:05 – 0:05:06] Erik: It is probably something like that.
[0:05:07 – 0:05:08] Adam: Anybody out there know?
[0:05:08 – 0:05:12] Adam: We didn’t get any correspondence about how to procure TNT either.
[0:05:12 – 0:05:13] Erik: Or maybe we did.
[0:05:14 – 0:05:18] Adam: And that’s the thing we would say, and nobody’s winking in this studio.
[0:05:18 – 0:05:18] Erik: Nope.
[0:05:19 – 0:05:20] Adam: And, yeah.
[0:05:21 – 0:05:25] Adam: Or how to get our hands on any WMDs.
[0:05:27 – 0:05:28] Adam: Yeah, we’ll take either.
[0:05:29 – 0:05:35] Adam: Yeah, you guys need to launch the WMDs at the appropriate time and not too soon.
[0:05:35 – 0:05:37] Erik: Yeah, don’t just go blowing up canals.
[0:05:37 – 0:05:37] Erik: What are you doing?
[0:05:38 – 0:05:40] Erik: It’s a concerted group effort.
[0:05:40 – 0:05:42] Erik: It only works if we all do it at the same time.
[0:05:45 – 0:05:47] Adam: Anyhow, yeah, I can’t wait for TCC tonight.
[0:05:47 – 0:05:48] Adam: It’s a good one.
[0:05:48 – 0:05:50] Adam: I forgot to wear my America F you hat.
[0:05:51 – 0:05:53] Adam: Why am I wearing a brewer’s hat?
[0:05:53 – 0:05:54] Adam: I still have that hat.
[0:05:54 – 0:05:55] Erik: Yeah, you do have a brewer’s hat on.
[0:05:56 – 0:05:57] Erik: I was down in the cities this last week.
[0:05:57 – 0:05:59] Adam: I know, you watched the brew crew sweep them.
[0:05:59 – 0:06:03] Erik: For a 98 degree humid, it was windy.
[0:06:03 – 0:06:05] Erik: My God, thank you for that wind.
[0:06:06 – 0:06:08] Adam: Blown out to left field, it looked like.
[0:06:08 – 0:06:10] Erik: Yeah, it was very nice up there, upper deck.
[0:06:11 – 0:06:14] Erik: A friend of mine that I was down there was like, I should have brought a mitt.
[0:06:14 – 0:06:17] Erik: I’m like, we’re not in catching homer territory.
[0:06:17 – 0:06:21] Adam: Didn’t the guy catch one barehanded and then the broadcast team bought him a beer?
[0:06:22 – 0:06:23] Adam: I watched the highlights of the game.
[0:06:23 – 0:06:26] Adam: Did you see the guy catch it barehanded?
[0:06:26 – 0:06:26] Erik: It was quite the snatch.
[0:06:26 – 0:06:29] Erik: The one that was in that left field bleachers area?
[0:06:29 – 0:06:34] Adam: Yeah, he reached way out in the aisle and just casually snatched it.
[0:06:34 – 0:06:38] Erik: We were just up above that guy in the concourse.
[0:06:38 – 0:06:39] Erik: I was looking for you.
[0:06:39 – 0:06:49] Erik: Because we were trying to get out of the sun, so we were walking around the middle concourse area, which is all shaded, and just watching the game from different views because you couldn’t sit in the seats.
[0:06:50 – 0:06:50] Adam: Yeah.
[0:06:50 – 0:06:52] Erik: It was all Brewers fans, though.
[0:06:52 – 0:06:54] Adam: Well, the Brewers are having a good season.
[0:06:54 – 0:06:58] Erik: I think it was mostly just because people from the cities were like, I’m not going to sit in that stadium.
[0:06:58 – 0:06:59] Erik: It’s 100 degrees.
[0:07:00 – 0:07:02] Erik: But all the Brewers fans are like, I bought these tickets.
[0:07:02 – 0:07:02] Erik: I’m going.
[0:07:02 – 0:07:03] Erik: I’m coming over.
[0:07:04 – 0:07:06] Adam: We’re going to come over here and check it out.
[0:07:07 – 0:07:11] Adam: Ride this light rail or whatever.
[0:07:11 – 0:07:16] Erik: There were some Brewers fans behind us who were arguing about what river it was that separated the Twin Cities.
[0:07:16 – 0:07:18] Erik: And the one guy’s like, I’m pretty sure it’s the Mississippi.
[0:07:18 – 0:07:20] Erik: And the other guy’s like, no, bro.
[0:07:20 – 0:07:20] Erik: No, it’s not.
[0:07:21 – 0:07:22] Erik: What did he say it was?
[0:07:22 – 0:07:23] Adam: We didn’t get involved.
[0:07:23 – 0:07:25] Adam: Just not the Mississippi.
[0:07:25 – 0:07:26] Erik: He didn’t offer an alternative.
[0:07:26 – 0:07:28] Erik: He just was like, no, it’s not the Mississippi.
[0:07:29 – 0:07:30] Adam: It’s the St. Paul River.
[0:07:31 – 0:07:37] Erik: And I was going back and forth with a friend of mine that was there because I was like, that’s ridiculous.
[0:07:37 – 0:07:38] Erik: How do you not know that?
[0:07:38 – 0:07:40] Erik: And they were like, you probably don’t know a bunch about Milwaukee.
[0:07:40 – 0:07:40] Erik: I’m like, I don’t know.
[0:07:40 – 0:07:44] Erik: Milwaukee doesn’t have the largest river in the world flowing by it.
[0:07:44 – 0:07:47] Erik: I’m sure there’s a river in Milwaukee I’m not aware of.
[0:07:47 – 0:07:53] Adam: It’d be like if you’re in Milwaukee watching a Brewers game and be like, that isn’t like Michigan, bro.
[0:07:53 – 0:07:53] Erik: I guess.
[0:07:53 – 0:07:58] Erik: That would be the closest comparable if I was like, yeah, no, that’s like Huron over there, man.
[0:07:58 – 0:07:58] Erik: Come on.
[0:07:58 – 0:07:59] Erik: Yeah, come on.
[0:08:00 – 0:08:03] Erik: But it’s also, I don’t know, it’s a big river.
[0:08:03 – 0:08:04] Erik: You should know.
[0:08:04 – 0:08:06] Erik: We’re also just a few hours away.
[0:08:06 – 0:08:11] Adam: It’s actually the Menominee River that flows by whatever they’re calling county stadium these days.
[0:08:11 – 0:08:12] Erik: Yeah, what is it named?
[0:08:12 – 0:08:14] Erik: It’s probably named after some kind of cryptocurrency.
[0:08:14 – 0:08:16] Erik: We don’t have to bleep it out.
[0:08:16 – 0:08:18] SPEAKER_00: Trevor, bleep it, bud.
[0:08:19 – 0:08:22] Adam: It used to be Miller Park, but apparently it’s not called that anymore.
[0:08:23 – 0:08:24] Adam: Whatever it is, it’s by the Menominee River.
[0:08:24 – 0:08:29] Adam: There is a Milwaukee River, but it’s like downtown and it flows north.
[0:08:29 – 0:08:30] Adam: It has nothing to do.
[0:08:30 – 0:08:32] Adam: It goes by the Bucks Stadium.
[0:08:32 – 0:08:34] Erik: So the confluence of the Menominee and the Wisconsin?
[0:08:35 – 0:08:59] Adam: no no sadly not no it’s not that majestic it can’t even possibly be that majestic yeah well we do have a show sponsor to get to uh we might as well crack into it here because i am quite thirsty uh and this is sent to us by uh well we don’t know actually but it’s in a beautiful bag it is look at this thing
[0:08:59 – 0:09:06] Adam: So you can see why it’s on the whiteboard is May 15th unicorn bag, Eric.
[0:09:07 – 0:09:07] Adam: Yeah.
[0:09:07 – 0:09:09] Erik: We still got three more days in Pride Month.
[0:09:10 – 0:09:10] Adam: There we go.
[0:09:10 – 0:09:11] Adam: Happy Pride.
[0:09:12 – 0:09:14] Adam: And we got ourselves a… Oh, my God.
[0:09:16 – 0:09:16] Erik: Oh.
[0:09:17 – 0:09:17] Adam: Disc mailer.
[0:09:18 – 0:09:18] Erik: Oh, no.
[0:09:19 – 0:09:21] Adam: This looks like a floppy disk.
[0:09:21 – 0:09:23] Adam: This looks like… What?
[0:09:23 – 0:09:25] Adam: Did somebody send us like Oregon Trail?
[0:09:25 – 0:09:26] Erik: Disc mailer?
[0:09:27 – 0:09:28] Erik: Where do you get a disc mailer anymore?
[0:09:28 – 0:09:29] Adam: Maybe I should read the note first.
[0:09:29 – 0:09:30] Adam: It’s probably just a picture.
[0:09:30 – 0:09:31] Adam: Don’t open that.
[0:09:31 – 0:09:34] Adam: It’s probably filled with WMDs and anthrax over there.
[0:09:34 – 0:09:35] Erik: Oh, it’s just filled with stickers.
[0:09:36 – 0:09:38] Adam: Oh, dot with discs, huh?
[0:09:40 – 0:09:45] Adam: What was the, it’s like red-leafed discwort.
[0:09:45 – 0:09:48] Adam: That’s what’s growing in Kaua Bay, I believe.
[0:09:48 – 0:09:48] Adam: What do we got over there?
[0:09:50 – 0:09:51] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:09:51 – 0:09:53] Adam: I think you should read the note first.
[0:09:53 – 0:09:57] Adam: Tumble homies, thank you for keeping me connected to the B-dub even when I am not there.
[0:09:58 – 0:10:01] Adam: The North Shore has been a special place for me since I was a kid.
[0:10:02 – 0:10:04] Adam: I appreciate your candid banter.
[0:10:05 – 0:10:07] Adam: It is something to look forward to each couple of weeks.
[0:10:08 – 0:10:09] Adam: Keep up the hard work.
[0:10:09 – 0:10:12] Adam: You are doing a great thing with your podcast.
[0:10:12 – 0:10:14] Adam: New friend of the show, Ryan.
[0:10:15 – 0:10:16] Adam: Ryan?
[0:10:16 – 0:10:17] Adam: From Rochester, Minnesota.
[0:10:18 – 0:10:19] Adam: Nice.
[0:10:19 – 0:10:19] Adam: And the stickers.
[0:10:19 – 0:10:22] Adam: I hope you enjoy the Tumbled Stones.
[0:10:22 – 0:10:26] Adam: Rock tumbling is a new favorite hobby that my daughters and I have picked up.
[0:10:29 – 0:10:29] Adam: That’s it.
[0:10:29 – 0:10:30] Adam: It has a little arrow.
[0:10:30 – 0:10:31] Adam: Oh, I see.
[0:10:31 – 0:10:32] Adam: And the stickers.
[0:10:32 – 0:10:33] Adam: The arrow is going to the stickers.
[0:10:33 – 0:10:34] Adam: I thought it was like, turn it over.
[0:10:35 – 0:10:42] Erik: Yeah, you did kind of inflect a little sack of tumble stone.
[0:10:42 – 0:10:43] Adam: All right.
[0:10:43 – 0:10:44] Adam: So I’m glad it wasn’t.
[0:10:45 – 0:10:46] Adam: It’s definitely not WMDs.
[0:10:46 – 0:10:48] Adam: It’s like agates and stickers.
[0:10:49 – 0:10:52] Adam: Once again, at 294 episodes in and people keep saying it.
[0:10:52 – 0:10:53] Adam: Oh, they’re cold.
[0:10:53 – 0:10:54] Erik: My God, they’re cold.
[0:10:54 – 0:10:55] Erik: Cold.
[0:10:55 – 0:10:56] Erik: Yeah, they were in the fridge.
[0:10:58 – 0:11:01] Erik: These rocks are too cold.
[0:11:01 – 0:11:02] Erik: Look at these gems.
[0:11:03 – 0:11:05] Adam: Oh, they sound nice when they’re cold like that.
[0:11:05 – 0:11:05] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:11:05 – 0:11:06] Adam: Extra cold.
[0:11:06 – 0:11:07] Adam: Yeah.
[0:11:07 – 0:11:09] Adam: Did you guys know you’re supposed to chill your agates?
[0:11:09 – 0:11:10] Adam: Look at this one.
[0:11:11 – 0:11:13] Adam: This is some serious banding right here.
[0:11:13 – 0:11:17] Erik: Yeah, it’s like looking into the eye of Jupiter on some of these agates.
[0:11:17 – 0:11:17] Erik: Dang.
[0:11:17 – 0:11:18] Erik: Dang.
[0:11:20 – 0:11:21] Erik: Nice work.
[0:11:22 – 0:11:23] Adam: Beautiful.
[0:11:24 – 0:11:27] Erik: I used to tumble stones back in my youth as well.
[0:11:27 – 0:11:28] Erik: Just the garage.
[0:11:28 – 0:11:35] Erik: Every time you’d walk through there, it was just like a… For like three months straight.
[0:11:38 – 0:11:40] Adam: Yeah, I thought about getting one out here in the shed.
[0:11:42 – 0:11:43] Erik: Yeah, a bunch of these are really sweet.
[0:11:45 – 0:11:48] Erik: This one almost looks like petrified wood or something.
[0:11:48 – 0:11:48] Erik: Dang.
[0:11:49 – 0:11:50] Erik: Was this from Ryan?
[0:11:50 – 0:11:52] Adam: Ryan in Rochester, Minnesota.
[0:11:52 – 0:11:53] Adam: Ryan.
[0:11:54 – 0:11:55] Adam: Keep up the good work.
[0:11:55 – 0:11:56] Adam: This is a fun hobby.
[0:11:56 – 0:11:57] Adam: Way to go.
[0:11:57 – 0:11:59] Adam: Yeah, that’s a good thing to do with your kids.
[0:12:00 – 0:12:00] Adam: Find stones.
[0:12:01 – 0:12:01] Adam: Go to beach.
[0:12:02 – 0:12:03] Adam: Go to gravel pits, actually.
[0:12:03 – 0:12:05] Adam: That’s the best spot for the really good stuff.
[0:12:06 – 0:12:06] Adam: Yeah.
[0:12:07 – 0:12:08] Adam: Everybody’s out there walking the beaches.
[0:12:10 – 0:12:12] Adam: You want to check those gravel pits out.
[0:12:12 – 0:12:14] Adam: If you’re in the band, that is.
[0:12:14 – 0:12:15] Adam: Ryan knows this.
[0:12:16 – 0:12:19] Adam: These are the rocks that he probably was like, eh, I don’t need to have this one.
[0:12:19 – 0:12:22] Adam: Just imagine the ones that he’s got on his mantle.
[0:12:22 – 0:12:23] Erik: Tumbled rocks.
[0:12:24 – 0:12:25] Adam: Yeah, Fieldstone.
[0:12:25 – 0:12:26] Adam: It looks like candy.
[0:12:26 – 0:12:27] Erik: You could eat that.
[0:12:27 – 0:12:33] Erik: It looks like some kind of a black licorice grape taffy of some sort.
[0:12:33 – 0:12:34] SPEAKER_00: I’d take a bite of that.
[0:12:34 – 0:12:37] SPEAKER_00: We’ll bring this along with our cheese and eat it on the next trip.
[0:12:37 – 0:12:38] Erik: Actually, let me try and get a bite of that right now.
[0:12:38 – 0:12:41] Adam: It looks like it would probably taste pretty good.
[0:12:41 – 0:12:42] Erik: Oh…
[0:12:44 – 0:12:45] Adam: Thank you, Ryan.
[0:12:45 – 0:12:48] Adam: I don’t know if we’re doing great things here.
[0:12:49 – 0:12:51] Adam: We enjoy the banter, and I don’t know.
[0:12:51 – 0:12:54] Adam: I just finished listening to all the Quetico episodes today.
[0:12:55 – 0:13:00] Erik: If at least one person thinks we’re doing great things, we must be doing great things.
[0:13:00 – 0:13:03] Adam: I was definitely laughing at our own jokes once again.
[0:13:03 – 0:13:04] Adam: Once again.
[0:13:04 – 0:13:07] Adam: As I said on that show, we are funny, and it’s true.
[0:13:07 – 0:13:08] Adam: At least I think we’re funny.
[0:13:10 – 0:13:13] Adam: And some of my family members also think we’re funny.
[0:13:13 – 0:13:13] Erik: Some of them.
[0:13:14 – 0:13:15] Adam: Not all.
[0:13:15 – 0:13:19] Adam: There was one point where we were talking about all the weird plants in Kawa Bay.
[0:13:19 – 0:13:20] Adam: Yes.
[0:13:20 – 0:13:23] Adam: And then there was like a long pause and then I just like expletive.
[0:13:24 – 0:13:25] Adam: No S.
[0:13:26 – 0:13:31] Adam: And then I was driving down a gravel road and just nearly spit my coffee out.
[0:13:33 – 0:13:34] Adam: We got some drinks in here.
[0:13:34 – 0:13:35] Erik: Because we were expletive free.
[0:13:35 – 0:13:38] Adam: Yeah, these are family-friendly podcasts, obviously.
[0:13:38 – 0:13:40] Erik: We’re back into the family-friendly podcasts.
[0:13:40 – 0:13:42] Erik: Wow, that can really matches the bag.
[0:13:42 – 0:13:43] Adam: Very nice.
[0:13:43 – 0:13:43] Adam: Oh, jeez.
[0:13:45 – 0:13:52] Adam: We got a More the Merrier Fruited Berliner, Dragon Fruit, Pineapple, Mango, and Key Lime.
[0:13:52 – 0:13:55] Adam: This one looks pretty light.
[0:13:55 – 0:13:58] Adam: Back Channel Brewing, Lake Minnetonka.
[0:13:59 – 0:14:20] Adam: eric tonka you ever been to lake minnetonka and the pale moonlight no i’ve always tried to avoid that place this one’s also from back channel brewing uh this is a another fruited berliner gm pog oh we got some some hockey sticks there pog you got a classic pog this one’s got passion fruit orange and guava
[0:14:20 – 0:14:23] Erik: That’s what the POG stands for, baby.
[0:14:23 – 0:14:24] Adam: There we go.
[0:14:24 – 0:14:27] Adam: We also have, jeez, there’s a lot in this unicorn bag.
[0:14:27 – 0:14:29] Adam: I’m definitely saving this unicorn bag.
[0:14:30 – 0:14:31] Erik: As you should.
[0:14:31 – 0:14:33] Erik: Oh, I’m seeing some other cool-looking artwork here.
[0:14:36 – 0:14:38] Adam: Oh, these are THC seltzers.
[0:14:38 – 0:14:38] Adam: Oh, no.
[0:14:39 – 0:14:41] Adam: These are for the mezzanine later, I would think.
[0:14:41 – 0:14:46] Adam: Yeah, I’d save those for… Flavored pixels, THC, tangerine, lemon-lime.
[0:14:46 – 0:14:47] Adam: Oh, these do look good.
[0:14:50 – 0:14:50] Adam: Ooh, blackberry.
[0:14:51 – 0:14:53] Adam: And the fourth one is, ooh, pineapple.
[0:14:54 – 0:14:55] Adam: Mmm, piña.
[0:14:57 – 0:14:58] Erik: Carafesco.
[0:14:58 – 0:14:59] Adam: What do these guys buy?
[0:14:59 – 0:15:00] Adam: Do you have any idea what this is?
[0:15:01 – 0:15:02] Erik: Who?
[0:15:02 – 0:15:02] Adam: Spin it.
[0:15:03 – 0:15:26] Erik: i don’t know never seen it’s insight it’s from insight lever pixels inside there you go spin it that way changing up the uh the artwork a little bit uh looks like this came right out of minecraft i like it it looks uh you know like a little bit too zoomed in of a photo on ms paint there we go well that’s quite the haul
[0:15:27 – 0:15:28] Adam: Anyways, that’s our show.
[0:15:29 – 0:15:29] Adam: Good night.
[0:15:29 – 0:15:31] Adam: That’s the end of this episode.
[0:15:31 – 0:15:32] Adam: We’ll pick it back up next week.
[0:15:33 – 0:15:35] Erik: Trevor’s going to take you out for the next hour.
[0:15:36 – 0:15:44] Erik: His thoughts and feelings about, I don’t know, what’s the inverse movie to Team America, World Police?
[0:15:44 – 0:15:45] Erik: I don’t even know.
[0:15:46 – 0:15:46] Erik: Les Mis.
[0:15:47 – 0:15:48] Erik: Oh, no.
[0:15:49 – 0:15:51] Erik: The musical with Russell Crowe.
[0:15:52 – 0:15:53] Erik: Oh, the Russell Crowe version.
[0:15:53 – 0:15:55] Erik: Is there a Russell Crowe version?
[0:15:57 – 0:15:58] Erik: Ken says yes.
[0:15:59 – 0:16:00] Erik: Absolutely.
[0:16:00 – 0:16:01] Erik: Ken says yes.
[0:16:02 – 0:16:03] Adam: Yes, sir.
[0:16:03 – 0:16:03] Adam: Well, I’m into it.
[0:16:04 – 0:16:05] Erik: He’s into it.
[0:16:05 – 0:16:05] Erik: I’m into it.
[0:16:05 – 0:16:07] Erik: It’s all happening now.
[0:16:09 – 0:16:10] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:16:10 – 0:16:11] Adam: What is the inverse to Team America?
[0:16:13 – 0:16:14] SPEAKER_00: I don’t think.
[0:16:14 – 0:16:15] Erik: That’s a tough question.
[0:16:15 – 0:16:17] Erik: I just really threw that on you.
[0:16:17 – 0:16:17] Erik: Pocahontas.
[0:16:20 – 0:16:21] SPEAKER_00: Yeah, maybe.
[0:16:22 – 0:16:25] Adam: Because, yeah, it’s definitely Pocahontas, which we should do.
[0:16:25 – 0:16:26] Adam: They’re just going to use that one.
[0:16:28 – 0:16:29] Adam: I don’t know why that’s not on the whiteboard.
[0:16:30 – 0:16:32] Adam: Somebody’s not doing their job around here.
[0:16:35 – 0:16:37] Erik: I’ll try this fruited Berliner.
[0:16:37 – 0:16:37] Adam: Why not?
[0:16:37 – 0:16:38] Adam: He’s doing it.
[0:16:42 – 0:16:45] Erik: Well, we’re getting back into y’all’s free content.
[0:16:48 – 0:16:54] Erik: Thank you, Fazmata, for starting the question of the week unbeknownst to us and unprompted by us.
[0:16:54 – 0:16:56] Erik: This is the way it always has worked.
[0:16:56 – 0:16:59] Erik: This is the way of the world on Tumble Home these days.
[0:17:00 – 0:17:00] Adam: Who’s leading who around here?
[0:17:00 – 0:17:02] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:17:02 – 0:17:03] Erik: It goes back and forth.
[0:17:04 – 0:17:05] Adam: We’re all dancing together.
[0:17:06 – 0:17:06] Erik: We are.
[0:17:06 – 0:17:07] Adam: In the duff.
[0:17:09 – 0:17:12] Adam: We’re all dancing on that island on trousers right now, aren’t we?
[0:17:14 – 0:17:14] Adam: It’s big enough.
[0:17:15 – 0:17:16] Erik: It probably wouldn’t be big enough.
[0:17:16 – 0:17:21] Adam: Every single person that’s going to listen to this episode could just barely fit onto that island.
[0:17:22 – 0:17:23] Erik: For a large dance party.
[0:17:24 – 0:17:25] Erik: All standing upright.
[0:17:25 – 0:17:26] Adam: Yeah, nobody’s allowed to sit.
[0:17:27 – 0:17:30] Erik: Maybe a tree lean or two.
[0:17:31 – 0:17:32] Erik: But no sitting.
[0:17:32 – 0:17:33] Erik: Definitely no sitting.
[0:17:33 – 0:17:37] Adam: No way.
[0:17:37 – 0:17:39] Adam: Maybe some meditation and levitation.
[0:17:39 – 0:17:40] Erik: Down to the point.
[0:17:40 – 0:17:41] Adam: Yeah, you could levitate on the point.
[0:17:42 – 0:17:43] Erik: Yeah.
[0:17:43 – 0:17:49] Erik: Yeah, we’re going to read some responses to a question that was prompted on the subreddit, which does still exist.
[0:17:50 – 0:17:51] Erik: Tumblehome.
[0:17:51 – 0:17:53] Erik: Our Tumblehome cast.
[0:17:56 – 0:18:00] Adam: I pinned the Wikipedia, the Tumblepedia post onto the subreddit.
[0:18:01 – 0:18:02] Adam: Oh, did you now?
[0:18:02 – 0:18:02] Adam: I did.
[0:18:03 – 0:18:06] Adam: I was looking for it, and I pinned it.
[0:18:07 – 0:18:27] Erik: i found it bud and i pinned it so it’s up there if anybody’s looking it’s right up there next to the show sponsors there’s the beer sponsorship thread and then uh the other yes the it appears at when it’s pinned as a photo of cheap dancer and admiral gary deep in the tumble wikipedia they’re in the archives yeah they’re down there
[0:18:29 – 0:18:56] Erik: AI library they’re standing on what appears to be one of those ladders with wheels I think no they’re wearing there’s no ladders with wheels one of them is wearing looks like they’re both wearing roller blades and I’ve never looked that closely at this photo but the lake the map of the lake is so terrible have you seen this
[0:18:56 – 0:18:58] Adam: I don’t know if I’ve seen it like a big version.
[0:18:58 – 0:19:00] Adam: I’ve only seen it on my phone, frankly.
[0:19:00 – 0:19:02] Adam: I thought there was a ladder with wheels.
[0:19:02 – 0:19:02] Adam: Look at the lake.
[0:19:03 – 0:19:05] Erik: It’s supposed to be like the Great Lakes, right?
[0:19:05 – 0:19:05] Adam: Oh, I see.
[0:19:05 – 0:19:07] Adam: It’s like the UP.
[0:19:07 – 0:19:08] Erik: They’re standing on a map.
[0:19:09 – 0:19:16] Erik: And the UP is like standing alone like above a very large lake that doesn’t exist.
[0:19:16 – 0:19:17] Erik: Are you sure it’s not Atlas?
[0:19:18 – 0:19:19] Erik: And it’s like kind of Michigan.
[0:19:21 – 0:19:30] Erik: down on the bottom but it’s separated like there’s two michigans sort of it’s like a wisconsin and then like just a huge gap what’s the gap
[0:19:31 – 0:19:33] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:19:33 – 0:19:35] Adam: Maybe it’s… Yeah, actually, no, you’re totally right.
[0:19:35 – 0:19:36] Adam: This is insane.
[0:19:37 – 0:19:46] Adam: Well, there’s not enough stuff in the TumbleWiki yet to necessitate a ladder with wheels on it, but eventually the rollerblades aren’t going to cut it.
[0:19:47 – 0:19:49] Adam: You’re going to need a full-on ladder with rollerblades.
[0:19:49 – 0:19:51] Erik: Well, once you have to start building the library up.
[0:19:51 – 0:19:52] Erik: Exactly.
[0:19:52 – 0:19:59] Adam: So this is just what the picture looks like now, but in a couple of years, they’re going to be on like stilts or something with rollerblades.
[0:19:59 – 0:20:00] Erik: Roller stilts.
[0:20:01 – 0:20:03] Adam: Yeah, it’s like the giraffes in the solstice pageant.
[0:20:04 – 0:20:05] Erik: Totally like that.
[0:20:06 – 0:20:08] Adam: Everybody knows exactly what I’m referencing there.
[0:20:08 – 0:20:14] Erik: Yeah, everybody knows, even those who were there, why giraffes were included in that display.
[0:20:14 – 0:20:15] Adam: It made a lot of sense to me.
[0:20:16 – 0:20:17] Adam: The squirrel stole the sun.
[0:20:18 – 0:20:18] Adam: Give it back.
[0:20:19 – 0:20:19] Erik: Give it back.
[0:20:20 – 0:20:21] Adam: You’re very naughty, squirrel.
[0:20:21 – 0:20:22] Adam: Squirrel.
[0:20:23 – 0:20:25] Erik: Yeah.
[0:20:25 – 0:20:26] Erik: Let’s stop beating around the bush.
[0:20:26 – 0:20:27] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:20:27 – 0:20:28] Erik: We’re reading questions.
[0:20:29 – 0:20:31] Erik: We’re reading responses to the question.
[0:20:32 – 0:20:36] Erik: How do you go above and beyond?
[0:20:37 – 0:20:40] Erik: We all know about the bobbies and rexes of the world.
[0:20:40 – 0:20:52] Erik: We’ve hashed and rehashed bobby sticks, large eight-foot logs of charred birch.
[0:20:54 – 0:20:55] Erik: Dirty underwear.
[0:20:55 – 0:20:55] Erik: Dirty underwears.
[0:20:57 – 0:20:58] Erik: Trash and latrines.
[0:20:58 – 0:21:05] Erik: Everything that goes along with being a Bobby and the Rex of the world in the Boundary Waters.
[0:21:05 – 0:21:10] Erik: But we’ve never really talked as much about what being a homie is like.
[0:21:12 – 0:21:24] Erik: As the tumble homies, I feel at this point, pretty comfortable saying are probably all in this, uh, in this groove of boundary waters, paddlers being, uh,
[0:21:26 – 0:21:28] Erik: Paying it forward, as it were.
[0:21:29 – 0:21:39] Erik: So yeah, the question from Fazmata, in so many words, is essentially, what are you doing out there to be a tumble homie and good behavior?
[0:21:39 – 0:21:42] Erik: It’s not just following the rules and regulations.
[0:21:43 – 0:22:05] Erik: going above and beyond yeah it’s going above and beyond it’s the bare minimum is to go out there and follow the rules we’re looking for stewardship and care above and beyond some of the little things that you do to be a homie and go above and beyond to make the bwca a better and healthier wilderness for all
[0:22:06 – 0:22:12] Adam: Yeah, I mean, you’re out there with Tumble Homie stickers and stuff on your gear or patches on your hats and packs.
[0:22:12 – 0:22:15] Adam: I mean, whether you like it or not, when you’re in the park, then you’re on stage.
[0:22:15 – 0:22:16] Adam: You’re representative.
[0:22:17 – 0:22:27] Adam: Yeah, and I think we’re all trying to do as much as we can to make the park a nice and welcoming place.
[0:22:27 – 0:22:29] Adam: So I can’t wait to get to this thread as soon as I saw it.
[0:22:30 – 0:22:31] Adam: So this has promise.
[0:22:31 – 0:22:32] Adam: This is a great question.
[0:22:32 – 0:22:35] Adam: And then like a day later, there was 24 comments.
[0:22:35 – 0:22:37] Adam: And now what is there, like 40 on here?
[0:22:37 – 0:22:39] Adam: I mean, there’s a lot of commentary in here.
[0:22:39 – 0:22:39] Erik: Yeah.
[0:22:39 – 0:22:42] Erik: Well, you know, we always will find out whether or not.
[0:22:44 – 0:22:48] Erik: Half of them are responses to comments, but it looks like we’re in the mid-30s.
[0:22:48 – 0:22:49] Erik: There we go.
[0:22:49 – 0:22:50] Erik: In terms of comments.
[0:22:50 – 0:22:59] Erik: And we don’t just do this because it’s free content for an episode.
[0:22:59 – 0:23:08] Erik: Like, I’m genuinely interested, and I think, and I did, I thought, and I think it’s a good question.
[0:23:08 – 0:23:10] Adam: No, I wish I had thought of this question.
[0:23:10 – 0:23:12] Erik: Yeah, worth exploring a little bit.
[0:23:13 – 0:23:17] Erik: And there’s only so far we can go on our own.
[0:23:18 – 0:23:20] Erik: And that’s what y’all are there for.
[0:23:21 – 0:23:23] Erik: So thank you in advance.
[0:23:23 – 0:23:30] Erik: Unless this just goes horribly, then I will be retracting my aforementioned thank you.
[0:23:31 – 0:23:37] Erik: But as of right now, thank you for the responses and your thoughts on this question, which I think is valid.
[0:23:37 – 0:23:43] Adam: It just goes to show, though, how much we trust the homies because we are just going into this totally blind.
[0:23:43 – 0:23:45] Adam: Nobody ever reads ahead.
[0:23:45 – 0:23:47] Adam: We don’t even let Trevor look at the subreddit.
[0:23:47 – 0:23:48] Adam: He’s not old enough yet.
[0:23:48 – 0:23:49] Adam: No, he’s banned.
[0:23:49 – 0:23:50] Adam: We’re mods.
[0:23:50 – 0:23:52] Adam: So we just are trusting you.
[0:23:52 – 0:23:54] Adam: We’re going to do a whole episode based on this thread.
[0:23:54 – 0:23:58] Adam: We have not vetted these responses anyways.
[0:23:58 – 0:23:59] Adam: We don’t need to.
[0:23:59 – 0:24:00] Erik: They’re going to be great.
[0:24:01 – 0:24:07] Erik: The only thing that it could reveal itself in these responses, and maybe we’ve talked about this in the past.
[0:24:07 – 0:24:08] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:24:08 – 0:24:12] Erik: Maybe the Wikipedia page has got the answers, but I don’t know.
[0:24:12 – 0:24:19] Erik: I think we’ve talked about this, the alternative, the inverse to the Bobby and Rex, their names.
[0:24:20 – 0:24:20] Erik: Do they have names?
[0:24:21 – 0:24:21] Adam: They do.
[0:24:22 – 0:24:23] Adam: It’s Barry.
[0:24:23 – 0:24:23] Adam: Barry.
[0:24:24 – 0:24:31] Adam: and leaf no no bobby is barry and who is rex’s counterpart though
[0:24:32 – 0:24:32] Erik: Not Patches.
[0:24:33 – 0:24:35] Adam: No, definitely not Patches.
[0:24:35 – 0:24:53] Adam: It is in the wiki, though, because I read through the wiki, and this would be a good time to point out that I think we should do an episode where we just go through the Wikipedia glossary and make sure that everything’s up to snuff, because I was reading through it, though, and I definitely remembered it.
[0:24:53 – 0:24:56] Adam: I immediately remembered Barry, but I can’t remember what the Rex is.
[0:24:56 – 0:24:57] Erik: Up to snuff.
[0:24:57 – 0:24:58] Adam: The antithesis of a…
[0:25:00 – 0:25:02] Adam: you know, Rex.
[0:25:03 – 0:25:03] Erik: Yeah.
[0:25:03 – 0:25:04] Erik: Well, I mean, we’ve talked about this.
[0:25:04 – 0:25:08] Adam: It was like cousin Ralph or something, but it’s definitely not that.
[0:25:08 – 0:25:12] Adam: And also, another fact check on the fly, we got Joe Pera’s dog’s name wrong.
[0:25:12 – 0:25:14] Adam: What did we say it was?
[0:25:14 – 0:25:15] Adam: We said Russ.
[0:25:15 – 0:25:16] Adam: It’s definitely Gus.
[0:25:16 – 0:25:17] Adam: You said Russ?
[0:25:17 – 0:25:19] Adam: Yeah, I don’t know how we didn’t get that.
[0:25:19 – 0:25:20] Erik: Who said Russ?
[0:25:20 – 0:25:24] Adam: I said Russ, and then you also said Russ, and then we just got stuck on Russ.
[0:25:24 – 0:25:25] Erik: I don’t believe that.
[0:25:25 – 0:25:26] Erik: When did that happen?
[0:25:26 – 0:25:27] Adam: We’re thick as thieves, Eric.
[0:25:28 – 0:25:29] Erik: Was that out in Quetico?
[0:25:29 – 0:25:30] Adam: Yeah, that was in Quetico.
[0:25:30 – 0:25:32] Erik: I don’t remember anything from that trip.
[0:25:33 – 0:25:34] Adam: My calf still hurts.
[0:25:35 – 0:25:35] Adam: Does it?
[0:25:35 – 0:25:37] Adam: Yeah, my ear’s feeling a lot better, though.
[0:25:37 – 0:25:38] Adam: I would hope so.
[0:25:38 – 0:25:39] Adam: It’s been a month.
[0:25:39 – 0:25:41] Adam: I’m pretty sure it wasn’t a black fly bite, actually.
[0:25:41 – 0:25:45] Adam: I think I got bit by a Sasquatch on Little King Island.
[0:25:45 – 0:25:50] Adam: Suckled on by some kind of a… Or I got lured into a Mamagwese cave or something.
[0:25:50 – 0:25:51] Erik: Yeah, maybe.
[0:25:51 – 0:25:52] Adam: Maybe I got clubbed.
[0:25:52 – 0:25:55] Erik: Maybe that’s why you were wearing your chacos in the morning.
[0:25:55 – 0:25:56] Adam: Maybe.
[0:25:57 – 0:25:57] Adam: Maybe I was abducted.
[0:25:58 – 0:25:58] Adam: Yeah.
[0:25:59 – 0:26:00] Erik: Either way, though, it was suspicious.
[0:26:01 – 0:26:03] Erik: You got to wear some kind of a footwear if you’re going to space.
[0:26:06 – 0:26:07] Adam: Yeah, otherwise your feet will fly off.
[0:26:08 – 0:26:09] Adam: Admiral Geary.
[0:26:09 – 0:26:10] Adam: They’re made of water.
[0:26:11 – 0:26:12] Adam: Everybody knows that.
[0:26:13 – 0:26:14] Adam: One month ago.
[0:26:14 – 0:26:15] Adam: There we go.
[0:26:16 – 0:26:17] Adam: One month ago.
[0:26:17 – 0:26:19] Adam: Can we get some party horns in here?
[0:26:19 – 0:26:21] Erik: Pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew.
[0:26:21 – 0:26:22] Adam: One month ago.
[0:26:22 – 0:26:25] Adam: Yeah, you asked and then you also provided.
[0:26:26 – 0:26:27] Adam: I’m in charge of the party horns.
[0:26:27 – 0:26:29] Adam: That’s one of the only things I do.
[0:26:29 – 0:26:32] Erik: All right, let’s find out how these tumble homies are going above and beyond.
[0:26:32 – 0:26:33] Erik: All right, I can’t wait.
[0:26:34 – 0:26:37] Erik: In the BW, I try to pack out extra trash as I encounter it.
[0:26:38 – 0:26:44] Erik: I spend less time in the BWCA the last couple of years than I did prior to 2020.
[0:26:46 – 0:26:53] Erik: For the past five years, in the early spring and late fall, I walk the logging roads in Grand Portage State Forest and pick up trash.
[0:26:54 – 0:26:59] Erik: This year I had to walk about four miles to get a five gallon bucket of trash.
[0:26:59 – 0:27:06] Erik: In previous years, I’d have a five gallon bucket of trash within 500 yards of walking.
[0:27:08 – 0:27:10] Erik: Sounds like an improvement, right?
[0:27:11 – 0:27:11] Adam: Sounds great.
[0:27:12 – 0:27:17] Adam: I’m pretty sure I actually saw this one already and I may have commented on this one and then that’s when I was like, this is a good thread.
[0:27:17 – 0:27:18] Adam: I need to get out of here.
[0:27:18 – 0:27:19] Adam: Yeah.
[0:27:20 – 0:27:25] Adam: Is there a reference to like, what’s the Twisted Tea?
[0:27:25 – 0:27:26] Adam: Yes.
[0:27:26 – 0:27:27] Adam: Is there a reference to Twisted Tea?
[0:27:28 – 0:27:29] Adam: I sense we’re going down.
[0:27:29 – 0:27:30] Erik: We are getting there.
[0:27:30 – 0:27:34] Erik: Mostly beer cans, shotgun shells, food wrappers, dumped appliances.
[0:27:35 – 0:27:35] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:27:36 – 0:27:37] Erik: And miscellaneous parts.
[0:27:37 – 0:27:42] Erik: I thought that’s where you dumped your old appliances, though, was in the woods.
[0:27:43 – 0:27:44] Erik: Isn’t that where that goes?
[0:27:44 – 0:27:45] Adam: Specifically in Hoveland.
[0:27:45 – 0:27:47] Erik: Yeah, up in the Grand Portage State Forest.
[0:27:47 – 0:27:50] Erik: That’s where I’ve been dumping my dishwashers over the years.
[0:27:50 – 0:27:50] Erik: Yeah.
[0:27:50 – 0:27:53] Erik: I blow through dishwashers like you wouldn’t believe.
[0:27:53 – 0:27:56] Adam: Dude, I’ve gone through like three hot water heaters this year alone.
[0:27:56 – 0:27:57] Erik: What else are you supposed to do with them?
[0:27:58 – 0:27:58] Adam: It’s crazy.
[0:27:59 – 0:27:59] Adam: Woods.
[0:28:00 – 0:28:03] Adam: Every time I make mac and cheese, I just throw those pots in the woods.
[0:28:03 – 0:28:07] Erik: Every time you make mac and cheese, you throw the water heater that provided the water out.
[0:28:08 – 0:28:10] Adam: I only make mac and cheese in a hot water heater.
[0:28:11 – 0:28:13] Adam: And people are like, why don’t you get a crock pot or something?
[0:28:13 – 0:28:14] Erik: No.
[0:28:14 – 0:28:15] Adam: Or maybe just a pot with water.
[0:28:15 – 0:28:17] Adam: I’m saying, you’re crazy.
[0:28:18 – 0:28:18] Erik: You’re crazy.
[0:28:19 – 0:28:23] Erik: I prefer to re-hook up a new water heater every time I have any.
[0:28:23 – 0:28:23] Adam: I enjoy it.
[0:28:23 – 0:28:24] Adam: It’s therapeutic.
[0:28:27 – 0:28:28] Adam: And miscellaneous parts of vehicles.
[0:28:28 – 0:28:32] Erik: The miscellaneous parts of vehicles is the only thing that I could maybe give a pass on.
[0:28:32 – 0:28:33] Erik: Sometimes you don’t know.
[0:28:33 – 0:28:33] Erik: It may have flown off.
[0:28:34 – 0:28:35] Erik: Something flies off.
[0:28:35 – 0:28:36] Erik: Those roads aren’t great.
[0:28:37 – 0:28:42] Erik: Parts of cars are just cracking off of vehicles up there on the Rango Road, I can assure you.
[0:28:43 – 0:28:45] Adam: Yeah, the Rango just eats up suspension.
[0:28:45 – 0:28:48] Erik: I’m making progress, but people are still…
[0:28:50 – 0:28:50] Erik: A-holes.
[0:28:51 – 0:28:58] Erik: One day, I’ll find the road hunter that thrown brisk ice tea cans on the side of the road for the last couple of decades.
[0:28:59 – 0:29:00] Erik: Let me guess.
[0:29:00 – 0:29:01] Erik: He’s wearing a neon yellow shirt.
[0:29:01 – 0:29:02] Erik: To do so.
[0:29:02 – 0:29:04] Erik: Well, brisk ice tea isn’t alcoholic.
[0:29:05 – 0:29:06] Erik: Maybe isn’t?
[0:29:06 – 0:29:06] Erik: No.
[0:29:06 – 0:29:08] Adam: I thought that’s what the brisk implied.
[0:29:09 – 0:29:09] Erik: Oh, no.
[0:29:09 – 0:29:10] Erik: It’s just that cold.
[0:29:11 – 0:29:11] Adam: Oh.
[0:29:12 – 0:29:13] Adam: It’s the twisted tea.
[0:29:15 – 0:29:18] Adam: That twisted is definitely… That’s 3-2.
[0:29:18 – 0:29:25] Erik: How many different times have you thrown your hat into the free twisted tea grill lottery at the liquor store?
[0:29:25 – 0:29:26] Erik: I haven’t done it once.
[0:29:26 – 0:29:29] Adam: Neither have I. I went in there today and I didn’t see it.
[0:29:29 – 0:29:31] Adam: I didn’t enter again.
[0:29:31 – 0:29:34] Adam: Somebody inquired about it immediately after I walked through the door.
[0:29:34 – 0:29:36] Erik: It’s like, what’s up with this sweet grill?
[0:29:37 – 0:29:38] Adam: Is it sweet?
[0:29:38 – 0:29:39] Erik: I’ve been asked multiple times.
[0:29:39 – 0:29:40] Erik: I’m like, no.
[0:29:40 – 0:29:43] Erik: Why would I want to sign up for getting free garbage?
[0:29:43 – 0:29:46] Adam: It looks like it would melt immediately if you actually lit any charcoal.
[0:29:46 – 0:29:46] Adam: It’s trash.
[0:29:47 – 0:29:49] Erik: It’s just like a Weber grill that they sprayed on.
[0:29:49 – 0:29:50] Erik: I don’t think it’s a Weber.
[0:29:50 – 0:29:53] Erik: Well, yeah, but that shape, you know, that charcoal round.
[0:29:53 – 0:29:54] Adam: It looks like a Coghlan’s grill.
[0:29:55 – 0:29:55] Adam: Yeah.
[0:29:55 – 0:29:57] Adam: Honestly, with the Twisted T logo on it.
[0:29:57 – 0:30:06] Erik: After the first time you try firing up some charcoal in that thing, I’m sure all that yellow paint and stickers are just going to melt off and it’s just going to be a horrible piece of trash.
[0:30:07 – 0:30:08] Adam: Yeah, somebody asked that.
[0:30:08 – 0:30:10] Adam: Yeah, you have to like put your receipt in there.
[0:30:11 – 0:30:14] Adam: It sounds like somebody’s scam just to like steal people’s credit cards.
[0:30:14 – 0:30:19] Erik: It does kind of sound like that, but it’s also next to a huge mountain of Twisted Tea cans.
[0:30:19 – 0:30:23] Erik: Has anybody ever gotten actually like inebriated on Twisted Tea?
[0:30:23 – 0:30:27] Erik: I feel like those are like about as big of a scam as the hard seltzers.
[0:30:27 – 0:30:29] Adam: I don’t know if I’m in that category for White Claw.
[0:30:30 – 0:30:32] Adam: And no, you can’t get drunk on White Claw.
[0:30:33 – 0:30:34] Adam: It’s a proven fact.
[0:30:34 – 0:30:34] Adam: Twisted teas.
[0:30:35 – 0:30:35] Adam: I think…
[0:30:35 – 0:30:36] Adam: It’s too much hydration.
[0:30:36 – 0:30:37] Erik: You could all…
[0:30:37 – 0:30:39] Erik: When’s the last time you’ve actually seen a brisk iced tea, though?
[0:30:39 – 0:30:41] Erik: Can you get full on chickpeas?
[0:30:41 – 0:30:41] Erik: I don’t think so.
[0:30:42 – 0:30:42] Adam: What?
[0:30:42 – 0:30:45] Adam: You can’t get full on chickpeas and you can’t get drunk on White Claw.
[0:30:46 – 0:30:47] Adam: That’s my final stance.
[0:30:47 – 0:30:49] Adam: Those are your two final statements.
[0:30:49 – 0:30:53] Adam: You could literally eat chickpeas all day and you could drink White Claws and you’d just be fine.
[0:30:54 – 0:31:22] Adam: yeah ideally you do them together actually and then maybe you actually achieve some sort of like higher state of consciousness yeah white claws plus uh yeah chickpeas garbanzos and claws garbanzos and claws that’s how you achieve nirvana that’s the leading title for the episode i’m writing it down write it down you never do i’m gonna write it down actually i’m gonna type i’m gonna thumb this one out thumb it out i’ll read another one here
[0:31:24 – 0:31:25] Adam: From the OP.
[0:31:26 – 0:31:27] UNKNOWN: Oh, God.
[0:31:28 – 0:31:31] Erik: It’s Fosmana responding to his own question.
[0:31:31 – 0:31:32] Erik: Oh, okay.
[0:31:32 – 0:31:33] Adam: This is going to be good.
[0:31:35 – 0:31:37] Erik: I’m not always a wood nomer, but one I am.
[0:31:37 – 0:31:45] Erik: I try to stack it nicely near the fire grate and try to find a large piece of fallen birch bark to cover it with.
[0:31:46 – 0:31:47] Erik: Yeah, birch hat.
[0:31:47 – 0:31:49] Erik: A little garage.
[0:31:50 – 0:31:51] Erik: Birch garage.
[0:31:51 – 0:31:51] Erik: Yes.
[0:31:51 – 0:31:55] Adam: My other hat is a mint too, but my other hat is a big piece of birch bark.
[0:31:55 – 0:31:57] Erik: My other smaller hat is a birch.
[0:31:57 – 0:31:59] Erik: It’s like a birch sombrero.
[0:31:59 – 0:31:59] Adam: Yes.
[0:31:59 – 0:32:00] Adam: Yeah.
[0:32:00 – 0:32:02] Adam: And the wood is the little duck.
[0:32:03 – 0:32:17] Erik: Strongly opposed to modifying sites with quote-unquote improvements, but there have been a couple of times I’ve come to sites with fallen trees in camp that have threatened to turn good sites into sites people stop visiting completely.
[0:32:18 – 0:32:30] Erik: And I have stayed at them and taken time to process these fallen trees into neat wood and brush piles away from the primary site features so that they might have time to dry.
[0:32:31 – 0:32:43] Erik: When conversations strike up with other paddlers along my route, I try to share any relevant info I can recall about open and occupied sites along their path in case it helps them plan their day.
[0:32:45 – 0:32:45] Erik: Yeah, why not?
[0:32:45 – 0:32:54] Erik: That seems like a, not to say that I’m not trying to take away from your courtesy, but that seems like the bare minimum in terms of conversation.
[0:32:54 – 0:32:54] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:32:54 – 0:32:56] Adam: I sometimes don’t want to talk to people.
[0:32:57 – 0:32:57] Adam: Sure.
[0:32:57 – 0:32:58] Adam: Sometimes, but.
[0:32:59 – 0:33:03] Adam: I’m not usually one who will offer it up like, hey, those sites are open down there.
[0:33:04 – 0:33:07] Adam: But if somebody was like, have you seen anybody camp down that way?
[0:33:07 – 0:33:09] Adam: And I’d be like, not anybody.
[0:33:09 – 0:33:11] Adam: You got to pick the litter down there, bud.
[0:33:11 – 0:33:11] Erik: Yeah.
[0:33:12 – 0:33:12] Adam: For sure.
[0:33:13 – 0:33:14] Adam: I generally don’t.
[0:33:15 – 0:33:16] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:33:16 – 0:33:19] Adam: I worry about that because I don’t want to give away.
[0:33:20 – 0:33:21] Adam: It’s like almost a spoiler alert.
[0:33:22 – 0:33:24] Adam: I don’t want to offer it unprompted.
[0:33:24 – 0:33:28] Erik: Well, no, you can clearly tell when people are kind of interested, though.
[0:33:28 – 0:33:33] Adam: Yeah, like I don’t want to spoil something, but if somebody’s asking, I will definitely give out any information.
[0:33:33 – 0:33:39] Adam: I’m always paying attention, and I have the information, but I am careful not to give it out unprompted, I would say.
[0:33:40 – 0:33:40] Erik: Sure.
[0:33:42 – 0:33:50] Erik: I’ve been known to give bungee dealie bobs to strangers, especially if I see them carrying their paddles in their hands on portages.
[0:33:50 – 0:33:54] Erik: Well, if you ran into us, you’d be giving us bungee dealie bobs because we do walk with paddles.
[0:33:55 – 0:33:57] Erik: It’s the only thing we really walk with in our hands, though, isn’t it?
[0:33:57 – 0:33:59] Adam: Yeah, it’s kind of nice to have it in your hand.
[0:34:00 – 0:34:04] Erik: Sharing photos and information on Paddle Planner is a homey move in my opinion as well.
[0:34:04 – 0:34:10] Erik: I never want to spoil any truly special surprises because that’s part of the magic of going out there.
[0:34:10 – 0:34:17] Erik: But we all know how useful Paddle Planner is and it needs info from us to be that useful.
[0:34:17 – 0:34:20] Adam: I’m cool with that though because you are choosing to look at Paddle Planner.
[0:34:20 – 0:34:49] Adam: yeah you don’t have it’s not like and if you’re out there looking at site reviews and scrolling the photos you can’t be upset that you saw like a cool rock or something right or like a really majestic tree in this one campsite and then you get out there like man i wish i wouldn’t have seen that picture if you were the one who was online looking for it so yeah in that case i think it’s totally um i agree post as much as you want on there the more stuff on paddle planner you know the better it’s a great resource yeah um
[0:34:54 – 0:35:16] Erik: well we just tried eating the uh candy the sweet sweet shiny candy rocks and uh did not go well so we’re gonna try our best to keep reading some of the responses here before we uh yeah we got kicked out of the chocolate factory factory for that one they’re like no more no more you’re not allowed in here i don’t even know how you got in here in the first place
[0:35:17 – 0:35:29] Adam: Next up on the show, dear friend of the show and curator of the ladder with the wheels on it, cheap dancer, one month ago with 15 boxes of wine.
[0:35:30 – 0:35:37] Adam: I’m certainly not speaking for all homies, but I like to do the little things while out in the park to lift the spirits of other campers.
[0:35:37 – 0:35:44] Adam: For instance, when passing other folks on a portage, I’ll purposely stumble and drop all the loose paddles and poles I’m carrying.
[0:35:44 – 0:35:46] Adam: People really get a kick out of that one.
[0:35:50 – 0:36:00] Adam: Another thing I do to bring morale up in the park is when I’m paddling past another group on the lake, I’ll flip my bent paddle the wrong way and act like everything is normal as we pass by.
[0:36:00 – 0:36:06] Adam: This is some expert-level maneuvering over here by Cheap Dancer.
[0:36:06 – 0:36:07] Adam: This is classic Cheap Dancer.
[0:36:07 – 0:36:09] Erik: That will make others feel much better.
[0:36:09 – 0:36:09] Erik: Look at that.
[0:36:09 – 0:36:10] Erik: Yeah, you’re thinking about them.
[0:36:10 – 0:36:11] Erik: Look at that clown.
[0:36:11 – 0:36:13] Erik: Doesn’t even know how to hold his bent shaft paddle.
[0:36:14 – 0:36:17] Adam: This is immediately what I was like thinking of was like, we’re going to pick up litter.
[0:36:17 – 0:36:20] Adam: We’re going to make even better wood gnoming piles.
[0:36:20 – 0:36:25] Adam: But no, like we’re talking about like, what are you doing out there on an emotional level to lift spirits?
[0:36:25 – 0:36:28] Erik: That most people wouldn’t even think was intentional.
[0:36:28 – 0:36:33] Adam: Yeah, a cheap dancer understands the assignment and then always takes it to the next level of thinking.
[0:36:34 – 0:36:55] Adam: p quest c pod just responds there are angels amongst us yes this is great yeah i don’t think i’ve ever purposely fallen on a portage in front of i am now like i’m feeling pretty motivated that i’m gonna do i’m gonna do this no that just sounds like you will event you will just inevitably then actually fall
[0:36:57 – 0:36:59] Erik: I don’t know if I could… Yeah, if you’re trying to fall?
[0:36:59 – 0:37:01] Erik: I don’t know if I could stage an actual fall on Portage without…
[0:37:01 – 0:37:03] Adam: I don’t know if you can fake that, actually.
[0:37:04 – 0:37:10] Erik: You’d have to almost go through first, like before anybody else, like scout the portage and see if there was like a nice little.
[0:37:10 – 0:37:12] Adam: I think the best I could do would be.
[0:37:12 – 0:37:15] Erik: Pocket of like balsams you could fall into.
[0:37:15 – 0:37:15] Adam: There we go.
[0:37:16 – 0:37:23] Adam: I think the best I could do if I was sitting in my chair in camp and somebody paddled by, I could probably like convincingly fall out of my chair.
[0:37:24 – 0:37:25] Erik: Yeah.
[0:37:26 – 0:37:26] Erik: I lost my balance.
[0:37:27 – 0:37:27] Erik: Oh, no.
[0:37:27 – 0:37:30] Erik: Even though it was like a nice soft pack that you fell into behind.
[0:37:30 – 0:37:33] Adam: They don’t throw a whole algae in the water off into the woods.
[0:37:34 – 0:37:34] Adam: Yeah.
[0:37:34 – 0:37:53] Adam: there we go i could probably pull that off yeah well we’ll work on that for uh we’ll put it into the routine we’ll do that in september it’ll all be gags oh yeah i uh did say on the discord that i’m gonna dress like baxter for night one of the tumble home live trip and i’ll be like shaking up cocktails in camp who’s baxter
[0:37:54 – 0:37:57] Adam: He’s the limo driver and cocktail bar.
[0:37:58 – 0:38:02] Adam: He’s the cocktail maestro from the headquarters at Mount Rushmore.
[0:38:03 – 0:38:05] Adam: He drives the limo.
[0:38:06 – 0:38:07] Adam: It’s also a spaceship.
[0:38:08 – 0:38:08] Adam: Yeah.
[0:38:08 – 0:38:10] Adam: He’s got a really dashing mustache.
[0:38:10 – 0:38:13] Erik: They all kind of have two plane of names.
[0:38:14 – 0:38:15] Adam: Yeah.
[0:38:15 – 0:38:18] Erik: It’s a little tough for going back through notes, though.
[0:38:18 – 0:38:22] Adam: Baxter is like the most exotic name in that one, other than, of course, Achmed.
[0:38:23 – 0:38:29] Adam: Next up on the show, SamSquanch22, dear friend of the show with 13 boxes of wine.
[0:38:30 – 0:38:36] Adam: If we catch up with another canoe on the water, I like to say, we’ve been trying to reach you about extending your vehicle’s warranty.
[0:38:37 – 0:38:38] Adam: Usually it gets a chuckle.
[0:38:38 – 0:38:43] Adam: Otherwise, we spend the first hour at every site getting rid of bobby logs and shoveling out the built-up ash.
[0:38:44 – 0:38:47] Adam: We even have a mini rake if needed.
[0:38:47 – 0:38:48] Adam: A mini rake.
[0:38:48 – 0:38:49] Adam: There we go.
[0:38:50 – 0:38:54] Erik: I should be better about clearing out the bobby logs.
[0:38:55 – 0:38:59] Erik: Just like the pile of rotting birch.
[0:38:59 – 0:39:03] Erik: We’re usually pretty good about the ash pile and just basic litter and stuff.
[0:39:04 – 0:39:05] Erik: We usually scoff at the logs.
[0:39:05 – 0:39:07] Erik: We scoff and then we just sit next to them though.
[0:39:07 – 0:39:09] Adam: And then just tolerate their existence.
[0:39:10 – 0:39:10] Erik: I guess.
[0:39:10 – 0:39:12] Adam: Is it better to just throw them off into the woods?
[0:39:13 – 0:39:13] Adam: Probably.
[0:39:13 – 0:39:16] Adam: And it’d be better to throw them out into the sea.
[0:39:16 – 0:39:17] Adam: Yeah, I don’t know.
[0:39:17 – 0:39:19] Adam: And then you might be creating a maritime hazard.
[0:39:19 – 0:39:20] Adam: You might be.
[0:39:20 – 0:39:22] Adam: That would be a thing Rex would do.
[0:39:22 – 0:39:29] Erik: Cruising across the lake into two and a half foot rollers and all of a sudden a six foot bobby log comes crashing over the hull.
[0:39:29 – 0:39:32] Adam: That is one of the theories as to what happened to the Edmund Fitzgerald.
[0:39:32 – 0:39:32] UNKNOWN: Ha!
[0:39:32 – 0:39:40] Erik: It was Uncle Rex’s burnt charred logs that jarred the hatch loose on hatch cover 15.
[0:39:40 – 0:39:42] Erik: Just the final destination.
[0:39:42 – 0:39:42] Erik: Perfect.
[0:39:43 – 0:39:48] Adam: Perfectly hit the little corner of the wedge of the hatch cover right there.
[0:39:49 – 0:39:50] Adam: You know what, though?
[0:39:50 – 0:40:00] Adam: Sometimes you do see it where you’re off taking a leak in the camp and you find a bunch of old charred logs that somebody has previously cleared out of the way.
[0:40:00 – 0:40:00] Adam: Yeah.
[0:40:00 – 0:40:05] Adam: So they’re no longer a visual impairment.
[0:40:06 – 0:40:08] Adam: There’s a better way to say that.
[0:40:08 – 0:40:10] Erik: No, I think that they are an impairment.
[0:40:12 – 0:40:12] Adam: It is.
[0:40:12 – 0:40:13] Adam: It’s an impairment.
[0:40:14 – 0:40:15] Adam: To your enjoyment of the site.
[0:40:15 – 0:40:17] Erik: Obscene impairment.
[0:40:17 – 0:40:18] Erik: It is obscene.
[0:40:18 – 0:40:19] Erik: What were you thinking?
[0:40:19 – 0:40:23] Erik: Oogie Oglethorpe, 22.
[0:40:23 – 0:40:23] Erik: Welcome.
[0:40:24 – 0:40:26] Erik: We haven’t done Slapshot, have we?
[0:40:28 – 0:40:29] Adam: No, sir.
[0:40:29 – 0:40:29] Adam: We have not.
[0:40:31 – 0:40:33] Erik: If I ever get back into hockey, maybe we’ll do Slapshot.
[0:40:34 – 0:40:36] Erik: But for right now, hockey is dead to me.
[0:40:36 – 0:40:38] Erik: It might forever be.
[0:40:38 – 0:40:39] Adam: You didn’t watch the Calder Cup?
[0:40:41 – 0:40:41] Erik: No.
[0:40:42 – 0:40:48] Erik: I do a lot of overnight motor trips to fish on basswood.
[0:40:51 – 0:40:52] Erik: Hang on to your hats, ladies and gentlemen.
[0:40:52 – 0:40:59] Erik: We’re going deep into a paragraph of motorboat fishing trips on basswood.
[0:41:00 – 0:41:05] Erik: Very easy to fall into bad habits on motorized trips because of weight being less of an issue.
[0:41:06 – 0:41:11] Erik: And motors in general tend to attract a different type of camper.
[0:41:13 – 0:41:15] Erik: Looking at you, Barney Lackner.
[0:41:15 – 0:41:22] Erik: I remind myself that I am responsible for other people’s enjoyment of the lake in a very different and real way with noise.
[0:41:22 – 0:41:28] Erik: Wake, and honestly, the fact that I will win any race to a good campsite.
[0:41:29 – 0:41:34] Erik: I ask people we encounter on portages or fishing along the way where they plan to camp.
[0:41:34 – 0:41:37] Erik: I can pick and choose sites and double back easily.
[0:41:37 – 0:41:40] Erik: If I can leave one they planned on opening,
[0:41:41 – 0:41:46] Erik: recommend a good one, or steer them to a better one with the way the wind is blowing, I try to do that.
[0:41:47 – 0:41:56] Erik: I have rescued more than a couple of canoes and gotten people to campsites on crap days when even my 14-foot boat was struggling with wind and waves.
[0:41:57 – 0:42:07] Erik: I’ll make sure I leave good, easy to obtain firewood and source mine from spots that canoes may struggle to access.
[0:42:08 – 0:42:19] Erik: I am also better and more patient at chasing down and freeing snags than most people, so I typically end up clearing a few hundred yards of mono fishing line from trees and rocks.
[0:42:19 – 0:42:20] Erik: Oh no.
[0:42:20 – 0:42:21] Erik: Yeah.
[0:42:21 – 0:42:26] Erik: Bonus for that is there is usually a lure attached, so hey, free lure.
[0:42:27 – 0:42:30] Erik: I know that motor permits are divisive and I understand why.
[0:42:31 – 0:42:37] Erik: I try to make sure that if people remember encounters with me at all, that it’s a positive.
[0:42:38 – 0:42:44] Erik: Ideally, when they tell the story of their trip, they never even noticed me or any of the above.
[0:42:46 – 0:42:47] Adam: That’s a good way to approach it.
[0:42:48 – 0:42:53] Erik: Yeah, that might be the first motorboat camping response that I’ve read on…
[0:42:54 – 0:42:56] Adam: I don’t want to be noticed in my motorboat.
[0:42:56 – 0:42:57] Erik: On our Reddit.
[0:42:57 – 0:43:00] Erik: And then we’ve motorboat camped.
[0:43:00 – 0:43:02] Erik: You know, I’m not anti-motorboat camping.
[0:43:03 – 0:43:03] Erik: It’s allowed.
[0:43:04 – 0:43:07] Erik: It’s a real way to get out into the park.
[0:43:08 – 0:43:14] Erik: And OgieOglethorpe22 is clearly going above and beyond as a motorboat camper.
[0:43:15 – 0:43:17] Erik: And being very…
[0:43:18 – 0:43:21] Erik: empathetic to fellow travelers of the wilderness.
[0:43:22 – 0:43:27] Erik: And if every other motorboat camper out there was like you, I don’t think there would ever be an issue.
[0:43:28 – 0:43:34] Erik: The problem is that you are in the minority when it comes to motorboat campers because of
[0:43:35 – 0:43:43] Erik: I think on one hand, just the immediate jump to conclusion that a lot of canoe paddlers make to people in boats.
[0:43:44 – 0:43:44] Erik: Yeah, sure.
[0:43:44 – 0:43:53] Erik: For a lot of the reasons that you’ve pointed out, like buzzing up to a campsite after you’ve paddled for five hours to get there.
[0:43:54 – 0:43:55] Adam: Yeah, yeah.
[0:43:56 – 0:43:56] Adam: Or…
[0:43:56 – 0:43:57] Adam: I can’t say it’s ever happened to us.
[0:43:57 – 0:44:02] Adam: No, it really never… We got swooped by a motorboater or whatever, but I can see it happening.
[0:44:02 – 0:44:03] Erik: That’d be…
[0:44:03 – 0:44:03] Erik: I mean, yeah.
[0:44:04 – 0:44:17] Erik: I probably would have a much harder opinion on this if I was like a quarter of a mile away from a site I’d been eyeing up on the map all day and the motorboatists buzzed up and just snatched it right out from under me.
[0:44:17 – 0:44:18] Erik: But I don’t know.
[0:44:18 – 0:44:20] Erik: We never really try and plan our days around…
[0:44:22 – 0:44:27] Erik: final destinations at like motor lakes, at least during the heat of the season.
[0:44:27 – 0:44:31] Erik: Usually that’s like sag or fall or basswood.
[0:44:31 – 0:44:33] Erik: We’re there like late season.
[0:44:33 – 0:44:36] Erik: So it’s not really ever an issue, but, um,
[0:44:37 – 0:44:37] Erik: Yeah, that’s great.
[0:44:37 – 0:44:38] Erik: It’s good to hear that.
[0:44:39 – 0:44:48] Erik: And surely I have and I will, I’m sure, continue to take advantage of lakes where motorboat, boundary waters camping is allowed.
[0:44:48 – 0:44:53] Erik: And I will take some of your notes to heart and try and…
[0:44:54 – 0:45:14] Adam: pass that forward into my own so even even with a motorboat i’d be scared of like trying to like tow a canoe in rough seas no no i wouldn’t freak me out even in nice calm seas that those things get a little unwieldy back there you’re doing you’re doing good work you’re giving all those motorboaters a good name ogi
[0:45:15 – 0:45:40] Erik: oh gee where are we at what are we doing uh yeah we can do some more here come on what do we give me one give me give me give me it’s your best friend touch polish rocks it’s my best friend yeah goby yeah you guys are thick as thieves that’s right we go everywhere together
[0:45:41 – 0:45:43] Erik: You and Russ.
[0:45:43 – 0:45:48] Adam: Me and Gobi in my pants one month ago with 12 boxes of wine.
[0:45:50 – 0:45:51] Adam: Definitely wood gnoming.
[0:45:51 – 0:45:55] Adam: Cleaning up micro litter or macro litter if that’s there.
[0:45:56 – 0:46:01] Adam: And just generally being pleasant to be around on portages or when meeting other paddlers.
[0:46:01 – 0:46:04] Adam: Things like moving the canoe and gear to the side.
[0:46:05 – 0:46:13] Adam: or to not block the portage, stepping aside when someone is carrying a pack or more than you on a portage trail, or headed up the hill.
[0:46:14 – 0:46:22] Adam: Unless, of course, you’re stuck behind a group of Boy Scouts on the aluminum highway, then it’s time for the Grand Fours to eat.
[0:46:22 – 0:46:22] Adam: Ha!
[0:46:23 – 0:46:51] Adam: all right yeah get the landing tamer down off the wall back there we’re gonna have to get the landing tamer out here and take some practice swings get the stone during intermission it up to hair splitting sharpness yeah um i’m gonna have to do some like workouts before the tomohomi trip uh just make sure like my upper body strength is up to snuff in case we do have to tame any landings because yeah it is a free-for-all if you’re if you’re littering the landing with bobby’s
[0:46:51 – 0:46:56] Erik: Yeah, you don’t want to have to take a second swing with the rock, the portage tamer.
[0:46:56 – 0:46:57] Adam: No.
[0:46:57 – 0:47:01] Adam: One swing, ideally like a big 360 swing that can take out like several.
[0:47:01 – 0:47:03] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:47:03 – 0:47:04] Erik: Something out of a video game.
[0:47:04 – 0:47:04] Erik: Get them.
[0:47:04 – 0:47:05] Adam: Yeah.
[0:47:06 – 0:47:09] Adam: I had A and B end up and down at the same time.
[0:47:09 – 0:47:11] Erik: Wow, up and down at the same time.
[0:47:11 – 0:47:12] Adam: D-pad mastery.
[0:47:12 – 0:47:15] Adam: There we go.
[0:47:15 – 0:47:15] Adam: Yeah.
[0:47:16 – 0:47:17] Erik: D-pad mastery.
[0:47:17 – 0:47:18] Adam: That’s right.
[0:47:18 – 0:47:19] Adam: I don’t know about being pleasant.
[0:47:19 – 0:47:21] Adam: Am I pleasant on portages?
[0:47:21 – 0:47:24] Adam: I might be too competitive to be pleasant on portages.
[0:47:24 – 0:47:35] Adam: I’m pretty sure I’m usually pleasant, but I’ve definitely just told people their faces that, like, we’ll smell you later, and then paddle it off, and then they never do catch us.
[0:47:36 – 0:47:36] Adam: Not yet.
[0:47:37 – 0:47:38] Adam: Eventually they will.
[0:47:38 – 0:47:39] Adam: That’s the call of the wild.
[0:47:39 – 0:47:39] Erik: Yeah, I don’t know.
[0:47:39 – 0:47:45] Adam: Eventually someday some youngsters are going to catch back up to us and then they’ll probably landing tamer us.
[0:47:45 – 0:47:46] Erik: Yeah.
[0:47:46 – 0:47:47] Erik: Then that’s when we’ll know.
[0:47:47 – 0:47:48] Adam: Should have talked smack cramps.
[0:47:48 – 0:47:49] Adam: It’s our time.
[0:47:49 – 0:47:50] Adam: Then we’ll know.
[0:47:50 – 0:47:52] Adam: It’s time to fade off into the sunset.
[0:47:52 – 0:47:53] Erik: Or at least just get a motorboat.
[0:47:53 – 0:47:57] Adam: Or then we get our 14-foot Lund.
[0:47:57 – 0:48:09] Adam: All right, next up on the show, dear friend of the show, Rapshad, also a quarterfinalist in the Learnament with 12 votes of wine in the favorable category.
[0:48:11 – 0:48:11] Adam: Purple Descent.
[0:48:12 – 0:48:16] Adam: Our group tries to be efficient and quick as possible when it’s portage time.
[0:48:17 – 0:48:19] Adam: We are also friendly and ask groups how they’re doing.
[0:48:20 – 0:48:23] Adam: You never know when someone has lost something that you picked up on the last portage.
[0:48:24 – 0:48:29] Adam: We found a very nice rod and reel combo on our last portage of the day on Caribou one time.
[0:48:30 – 0:48:54] Adam: went around to all the camps and asked if anybody had forgotten it on the portage sure enough the last camp we visited it was one of theirs during our conversation we learned that one of the party was a regular at starbucks that one of our party used to be a barista at in seattle crazy who crazy who you will meet along the way as many bobbies and rexes as there are out there
[0:48:55 – 0:48:57] Adam: There’s more good people in the park.
[0:48:57 – 0:48:57] Adam: That is true.
[0:48:57 – 0:48:59] Adam: Thank you for the comment.
[0:48:59 – 0:49:02] Adam: I will award you an upvote on Eric’s account.
[0:49:02 – 0:49:04] Erik: I feel that’s probably true still in general.
[0:49:07 – 0:49:09] Adam: Oh, there’s way more good people in there.
[0:49:09 – 0:49:12] Adam: There’s way more tumble homies out there than bobbies and rexes for sure.
[0:49:13 – 0:49:22] Adam: But it’s when you encounter a bobby or a rex or what have you that it’s so much more jarring because most people are pretty pleasant on the portage or on the lake.
[0:49:23 – 0:49:27] Adam: I mean, how many times have you actually run into somebody where you’re like, that was unpleasant?
[0:49:27 – 0:49:28] Erik: Yeah, no, not really.
[0:49:29 – 0:49:30] Erik: It doesn’t usually happen.
[0:49:30 – 0:49:42] Erik: It’s usually like in the darkness across a lake and you don’t ever really get to put a face to the name, whether they’re like playing music or being rowdy in the night or you come across something that’s been littered.
[0:49:42 – 0:49:43] Adam: Yeah, it’s usually something you never see.
[0:49:44 – 0:49:44] Erik: No, yeah.
[0:49:44 – 0:49:47] Erik: Anybody that you’re usually face to face with are, yeah.
[0:49:48 – 0:49:48] Erik: Maybe.
[0:49:48 – 0:49:48] Erik: Who knows?
[0:49:49 – 0:49:50] Adam: I think that’s the key to everything, though.
[0:49:50 – 0:50:01] Adam: It’s much harder to be unpleasant to somebody to their face than when you’re in camp by yourself and maybe you drop something and you’re like, forget it.
[0:50:01 – 0:50:02] Adam: Nobody’s going to know.
[0:50:03 – 0:50:07] Adam: But if somebody else was sitting right there, you’d probably pick it up, right?
[0:50:07 – 0:50:09] Adam: I mean, that’s just human nature.
[0:50:10 – 0:50:17] Adam: To be unpleasant in the company of others is not being a good human.
[0:50:17 – 0:50:24] Erik: Well, the idea of finding something left behind on a portage and then paddling around a lake to return it, potentially.
[0:50:24 – 0:50:25] Adam: Then you found a new friend.
[0:50:26 – 0:50:26] Erik: Exactly.
[0:50:26 – 0:50:33] Erik: That must have been an amazing night for both parties, but especially for the fellow or gal…
[0:50:33 – 0:50:34] Erik: How old am I?
[0:50:34 – 0:50:34] Erik: Jesus.
[0:50:35 – 0:50:37] Adam: A whole fellow.
[0:50:37 – 0:50:41] Adam: A fellow or a gal who forgot the ride.
[0:50:41 – 0:50:42] Erik: Having me a cup of sarsaparilla.
[0:50:42 – 0:50:44] Erik: You probably made their trip.
[0:50:44 – 0:50:45] Erik: They’re like, oh, I don’t know where I forgot it.
[0:50:45 – 0:50:48] Erik: Or, my God, we got to paddle back to that portage in the morning and go get it.
[0:50:48 – 0:50:51] Erik: And all of a sudden, probably for a second, you’re like, what?
[0:50:53 – 0:50:55] Erik: Paneling up to our site right now?
[0:50:55 – 0:50:57] Erik: I’d be like, not again.
[0:50:57 – 0:50:58] Erik: Not again?
[0:50:58 – 0:50:59] Erik: Hey.
[0:50:59 – 0:51:00] Erik: Hey, we found, are these your rods?
[0:51:01 – 0:51:01] Erik: We found your underwear.
[0:51:02 – 0:51:04] Erik: I’d be like, oh my God, this is great.
[0:51:05 – 0:51:15] Erik: That would be, yeah, that would be a nice little evening conversation, I’m sure, based on good, wholesome, humanitarian efforts.
[0:51:15 – 0:51:17] Adam: I hope a gift was given.
[0:51:17 – 0:51:18] SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
[0:51:19 – 0:51:24] Erik: Yeah, I’m sure, in some form of a sip of a bottle or a snack from the pre-dinner.
[0:51:24 – 0:51:27] Adam: Would you like a 12-inch long beef stick?
[0:51:27 – 0:51:34] Erik: Yeah, would you like to chew on this foiled, wrapped, room-temperature wedge of blue cheese with us?
[0:51:35 – 0:51:36] Adam: I have a stick full of cheese.
[0:51:36 – 0:51:38] Adam: Would you like to nibble on it?
[0:51:38 – 0:51:38] Erik: Yeah.
[0:51:38 – 0:51:39] Erik: Yes, please.
[0:51:39 – 0:51:43] Erik: I made myself a knife, except it’s not really a knife.
[0:51:43 – 0:51:45] Erik: It’s just the last half inch of a knife.
[0:51:46 – 0:51:47] Erik: The tip.
[0:51:50 – 0:51:50] Adam: Yeah.
[0:51:51 – 0:51:53] Adam: Maybe a group photo was taken.
[0:51:53 – 0:51:54] Adam: Yeah, that’s all you need.
[0:51:54 – 0:51:55] Adam: That kind of thing.
[0:51:56 – 0:51:57] Adam: Maybe a sticker was passed.
[0:51:57 – 0:51:57] Adam: Maybe.
[0:51:57 – 0:51:58] Adam: Or a tiny joint.
[0:51:59 – 0:51:59] Adam: A tiny joint.
[0:51:59 – 0:52:00] Adam: Thank you.
[0:52:00 – 0:52:02] Adam: Thank you for returning my rod to me.
[0:52:02 – 0:52:03] Adam: Have a tiny joint.
[0:52:05 – 0:52:07] Adam: What are we, in Ontario now?
[0:52:08 – 0:52:09] Erik: No.
[0:52:09 – 0:52:10] Adam: Maybe it’s even better.
[0:52:10 – 0:52:11] Adam: It’s Minnesota.
[0:52:11 – 0:52:13] Erik: Even better.
[0:52:13 – 0:52:14] Adam: Even better.
[0:52:15 – 0:52:15] Adam: What do we got here?
[0:52:15 – 0:52:17] Erik: We got probably a couple more we can read.
[0:52:17 – 0:52:18] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:52:18 – 0:52:19] Erik: Are we going to break this up into two?
[0:52:19 – 0:52:20] Erik: Are we doing that?
[0:52:20 – 0:52:21] Adam: Yeah, let’s read one more.
[0:52:21 – 0:52:25] Erik: One more, and then we’ll spend the rest of the night talking about AI.
[0:52:25 – 0:52:29] Erik: It just seems like everybody’s talking about these days.
[0:52:29 – 0:52:30] Erik: That’s very bad intelligence.
[0:52:30 – 0:52:30] Erik: You seen this?
[0:52:30 – 0:52:31] Erik: You heard about this?
[0:52:32 – 0:52:32] Adam: I’m sorry.
[0:52:32 – 0:52:34] Adam: It’s very bad intelligence.
[0:52:34 – 0:52:37] Adam: I’m sorry, Eric.
[0:52:38 – 0:52:40] Erik: Road underscore rage.
[0:52:42 – 0:52:43] Erik: One month ago.
[0:52:43 – 0:52:47] Adam: This homie is top notch.
[0:52:47 – 0:52:49] Adam: You win top notch homie.
[0:52:49 – 0:52:54] Erik: Top notch homie coming in last in the best possible way.
[0:52:54 – 0:52:56] Adam: If you’re last, you’re first.
[0:52:56 – 0:52:56] Erik: Yep.
[0:52:56 – 0:53:00] Erik: I pick up garbage anytime I’m out in the park or on any hike.
[0:53:01 – 0:53:05] Erik: It’s such a small effort thing to do that can really pay off if more people would do it.
[0:53:06 – 0:53:07] Erik: Micro litter.
[0:53:07 – 0:53:09] Erik: Grab those nubs.
[0:53:10 – 0:53:10] Erik: Those tips.
[0:53:10 – 0:53:14] Adam: I do take pride in finding micro litter at this point.
[0:53:14 – 0:53:16] Adam: I almost take it as seriously as finding warblers.
[0:53:17 – 0:53:24] Erik: Not to take an entirely wild tangent off of Road Rage’s comment here, but I was- No, I definitely want to go on a wild tangent with you.
[0:53:24 – 0:53:34] Erik: Driving down to the cities last weekend to go to a Twins game, which I believe has been mentioned already, but also an incredible Sophie Royer show at the 7th Street Entry.
[0:53:35 – 0:53:35] Erik: No way.
[0:53:35 – 0:53:41] Erik: And we were rolling through Duluth and we were like, what is going on here?
[0:53:42 – 0:53:44] Erik: And it slowly dawned on us because there were-
[0:53:46 – 0:53:55] Erik: Just blocks and blocks of trash and the curbs in Duluth between basically where the
[0:53:57 – 0:54:01] Erik: The expressway comes into town and the Glensheen Mansion.
[0:54:02 – 0:54:02] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:54:02 – 0:54:05] Erik: Just little cups and then even more.
[0:54:06 – 0:54:14] Erik: Tons of little cuppies, paper cuppies, and then an entire block of rinds of watermelon.
[0:54:15 – 0:54:26] Erik: And it reinforced my hatred for anybody who wants to run a goddamn marathon who just thinks that they can drink their little cuppy of water and just throw it wherever they want.
[0:54:26 – 0:54:27] Erik: I don’t care.
[0:54:27 – 0:54:31] Erik: Whoever’s going to have to come back through and pick it up, I think it’s disgraceful.
[0:54:31 – 0:54:35] Erik: I think marathoners and marathon running should be abolished.
[0:54:41 – 0:55:03] Erik: yeah me too running is stupid it is so stupid and it’s bad for your knees what are you thinking i hate the mentality of just like taking two tablespoons of water out of like the little medicine drop like the little cup of like literally the pills that a doctor from the 70s would give you yeah like eat this before you go under the knife
[0:55:04 – 0:55:06] Erik: And that’s like the amount of water you’re drinking.
[0:55:06 – 0:55:18] Erik: And then you just crumple it up like you’re a real man running a marathon who’s blocking the streets of a pretty large city with only one way to get north or south of for one day because you trained your whole life.
[0:55:18 – 0:55:23] Erik: And you thought, this is a thing that I am really special at.
[0:55:23 – 0:55:28] Erik: But in the meantime, I’m just going to destroy most of the other people around me’s lives.
[0:55:28 – 0:55:29] Erik: Nobody picked up the little cups?
[0:55:30 – 0:55:34] Erik: Oh, I’m sure a street sweeper or some people were going to come by and pick them up.
[0:55:34 – 0:55:39] Adam: Some poor prisoner probably that was in on a bad charge is going to have to go out there and pick that up.
[0:55:39 – 0:55:46] Erik: It was all directly adjacent to storm drains and gutters and all the stuff in the street that just runs into the lake.
[0:55:47 – 0:55:47] Erik: It’s like, really?
[0:55:47 – 0:55:49] Erik: Is this what Grandma’s Marathon is about?
[0:55:50 – 0:55:52] Erik: We’re just throwing cups of water into the street?
[0:55:52 – 0:55:53] Erik: That’s not a good look.
[0:55:53 – 0:55:57] Erik: What if it would have downpoured that night and all of those cuppies would have ended up in the lake?
[0:55:57 – 0:55:58] Erik: Who’s going to answer to that?
[0:55:58 – 0:56:01] Erik: Is grandma going to be out there?
[0:56:02 – 0:56:27] Erik: big grandma gonna be out in the lake scooping up with grandma no hell no big grandma’s not out there i always knew i did i always knew i was never gonna be a marathoner i didn’t know people were eating watermelon in the middle of there must have been a watermelon stand at some point because there was a like i said like two to three blocks worth of watermelon rinds just in the curb the gutter i’ll tell you what you didn’t see corn dog sticks
[0:56:27 – 0:56:28] Erik: Yeah, I’m sure.
[0:56:29 – 0:56:32] Erik: Those mushers, those corn dog sticks end up in a proper receptor.
[0:56:32 – 0:56:33] Adam: They’re housing them.
[0:56:33 – 0:56:33] Erik: Yeah.
[0:56:34 – 0:56:34] Adam: Eating sticks and all.
[0:56:34 – 0:56:35] Adam: They’re probably just chewing them.
[0:56:36 – 0:56:39] Adam: That’s why even this year they just ate the kebab straight down the hatch.
[0:56:39 – 0:56:39] Adam: Yeah.
[0:56:40 – 0:56:40] Adam: They would never.
[0:56:40 – 0:56:46] Erik: Yeah, it’s like that one meme where it’s like the anamorph where it’s like when you start eating the popsicle and you’re eating them.
[0:56:46 – 0:56:46] Erik: And turn into a beaver.
[0:56:46 – 0:56:48] Adam: And then towards the end you’re a beaver chewing on the stick.
[0:56:49 – 0:56:54] Adam: I’m so eager to eat this popsicle and stop the flow of water forever.
[0:56:54 – 0:56:55] Erik: Yeah.
[0:56:55 – 0:56:56] Adam: Don’t you even.
[0:56:56 – 0:56:57] Adam: Think about it.
[0:56:58 – 0:57:01] Adam: I almost did let one go, but this is a clean episode still.
[0:57:01 – 0:57:07] Erik: It’s so clean, except for my 10-minute rant on marathons, which I don’t think anybody’s going to judge me for.
[0:57:07 – 0:57:08] Erik: It’s ridiculous.
[0:57:08 – 0:57:12] Erik: I think it’s a poor form, and it speaks to this whole episode that we’re talking about.
[0:57:12 – 0:57:14] Erik: Do you want to be a steward of marathons?
[0:57:15 – 0:57:16] Erik: You spend all this time training.
[0:57:16 – 0:57:23] Erik: Why don’t you train your mind to not or like have some better system set up so these idiots who are like, oh, I’m too tired.
[0:57:24 – 0:57:25] Erik: I’m 20 miles into a marathon.
[0:57:25 – 0:57:27] Erik: There’s no time to deal with my trash.
[0:57:27 – 0:57:28] Adam: I’ll just throw it on the street.
[0:57:29 – 0:57:31] Erik: And it was a full day later.
[0:57:31 – 0:57:32] Erik: I get it.
[0:57:32 – 0:57:34] Erik: Yeah, probably some people will come through and clean it up.
[0:57:34 – 0:57:37] Erik: But it’s all just there, and it looks horrible.
[0:57:37 – 0:57:37] Erik: Blown in the wind.
[0:57:38 – 0:57:38] Adam: Yeah.
[0:57:38 – 0:57:40] Erik: Right next to storm drains.
[0:57:40 – 0:57:41] Erik: Like, what are we doing?
[0:57:41 – 0:57:42] Erik: It’s compostable, though.
[0:57:42 – 0:57:42] Erik: Come on.
[0:57:42 – 0:57:43] Erik: What are you talking about, Eric?
[0:57:43 – 0:57:44] Erik: Is it, though?
[0:57:44 – 0:57:45] Erik: No, it’s trash.
[0:57:45 – 0:57:46] Erik: It’s all straight trash.
[0:57:46 – 0:57:50] Erik: It looks like garbage, and it gives the whole event a horrible name.
[0:57:50 – 0:57:54] Erik: And I hope everybody listening has a bad taste in their ears and their mouths.
[0:57:54 – 0:57:55] Erik: Oh, man.
[0:57:55 – 0:57:56] Adam: My legs hurt.
[0:57:57 – 0:58:01] Adam: And it’s definitely not from that portage to Cache Lake still.
[0:58:01 – 0:58:02] Erik: No.
[0:58:02 – 0:58:04] Adam: And we didn’t leave anything on the side of that thing.
[0:58:04 – 0:58:06] Adam: And we were dying in blind of thirst.
[0:58:06 – 0:58:07] Erik: Yeah.
[0:58:07 – 0:58:13] Adam: If somebody would have offered you a little sippy cup on that side of that portage, you probably would have taken it, but you would have put it in your pocket.
[0:58:13 – 0:58:18] Erik: Yeah, what level does like, oh, because it’s so hard, I can get away with littering?
[0:58:18 – 0:58:18] Erik: Yeah.
[0:58:19 – 0:58:22] Erik: Are we throwing stuff on the side of a portage?
[0:58:22 – 0:58:23] Erik: No.
[0:58:24 – 0:58:26] Erik: Could you imagine what some portages would look like?
[0:58:26 – 0:58:31] Adam: You should be forced to bring an algae and a water with you on a marathon.
[0:58:31 – 0:58:32] Adam: Otherwise, what are you even doing?
[0:58:32 – 0:58:33] Adam: It doesn’t even count.
[0:58:33 – 0:58:34] Adam: No, exactly.
[0:58:34 – 0:58:36] Adam: If you had to take on water from a stranger…
[0:58:36 – 0:58:36] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:58:36 – 0:58:37] Adam: Disqualified.
[0:58:37 – 0:58:41] Erik: If I can’t make it to the tiny little medicine cup of water stand in Duluth.
[0:58:42 – 0:58:47] Adam: Now I’m thinking we should do the Grandma’s Marathon but carry all our own gear with us in a big pack.
[0:58:47 – 0:58:48] Erik: I’m sure a lot of people do.
[0:58:48 – 0:58:50] Erik: Just do it really slow.
[0:58:50 – 0:58:56] Erik: There’s probably so many people that do it that it just greatly outweighs the amount of people who are probably good about it.
[0:58:57 – 0:59:01] Erik: I’m sure there’s a number of people listening who are like, I’m a responsible marathoner.
[0:59:01 – 0:59:02] Erik: I bring my own water.
[0:59:02 – 0:59:06] Erik: Or if I do take a cuppy, I find a receptacle or whatever.
[0:59:06 – 0:59:07] Erik: Just shove it in your pocket.
[0:59:07 – 0:59:09] Erik: The things are literally like, they’re nothing.
[0:59:09 – 0:59:15] Erik: But when 1,000 people throw them in the gutter, it just looks like, what happened here?
[0:59:15 – 0:59:18] Erik: This looks like the beginning of 28 days later.
[0:59:18 – 0:59:20] Erik: Just trash is blowing in the breeze.
[0:59:22 – 0:59:22] Erik: So…
[0:59:23 – 0:59:30] Erik: I don’t feel like I’m entirely off in bringing that up because it’s very applicable to this whole conversation about…
[0:59:30 – 0:59:31] Adam: Pack it in, pack it out.
[0:59:31 – 0:59:32] SPEAKER_00: Pack it in, pack it out.
[0:59:32 – 0:59:33] Erik: I don’t care how hard it is.
[0:59:35 – 0:59:35] Adam: That’s the thing.
[0:59:35 – 0:59:37] Adam: It’s just a couple people who are doing it maybe.
[0:59:37 – 0:59:38] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:59:38 – 0:59:40] Adam: Maybe it’s half the people in the marathon, but…
[0:59:41 – 0:59:47] Adam: There are probably people at these marathons that are going out there later and picking up all this stuff, and they’re being homies, right?
[0:59:48 – 0:59:49] Erik: Well, maybe some volunteers.
[0:59:49 – 0:59:54] Adam: Just because Bobby is going to try and break the new speed record for the grandma’s marathon.
[0:59:55 – 0:59:59] Adam: There’s a couple homies out there like, we’ll clean up your stupid little cups, thirsty boy.
[0:59:59 – 1:00:00] Adam: I guess.
[1:00:01 – 1:00:02] Adam: Oh, you’re so thirsty.
[1:00:02 – 1:00:03] Adam: Aren’t you precious?
[1:00:03 – 1:00:07] Erik: Why do these marathons always have to take place in cities?
[1:00:07 – 1:00:17] Erik: We’re going to block an eccentric and esoteric and impossible to navigate set of streets for an entire day.
[1:00:19 – 1:00:23] Erik: Just because we got a bunch of weirdos who want to run 26 miles in the city.
[1:00:23 – 1:00:24] Erik: Just go out into the woods.
[1:00:24 – 1:00:27] Erik: Go out into the country and run 26 miles.
[1:00:27 – 1:00:29] Adam: I feel like that’s what the Lutzen 99er is.
[1:00:29 – 1:00:30] Adam: That’s going on tomorrow.
[1:00:30 – 1:00:31] Adam: Yeah, sure.
[1:00:31 – 1:00:31] Adam: The Lutzen 99er.
[1:00:31 – 1:00:33] Adam: And they’re just driving bikes around a gravel road.
[1:00:34 – 1:00:35] Adam: And I don’t know.
[1:00:35 – 1:00:37] Adam: Maybe some of them are throwing little cups out, too.
[1:00:37 – 1:00:38] Adam: But I think they have stops.
[1:00:38 – 1:00:40] Adam: And you just have to stop and have a sip.
[1:00:40 – 1:00:41] Adam: And then they have people there.
[1:00:41 – 1:00:43] Adam: It’s like they have more like checkpoints.
[1:00:43 – 1:00:44] Adam: You’re right, though.
[1:00:44 – 1:00:46] Adam: Marathons are just like everywhere is a checkpoint.
[1:00:47 – 1:00:48] Adam: Yeah, and you’re just on the road.
[1:00:48 – 1:00:50] Erik: Yeah.
[1:00:51 – 1:00:52] Erik: Why are we on roads?
[1:00:52 – 1:00:56] Adam: Life’s a road, and I’m just stomping on it.
[1:00:56 – 1:01:01] Erik: Why don’t you just go and run around the track however many times it takes to run a marathon?
[1:01:04 – 1:01:04] Adam: Yeah.
[1:01:05 – 1:01:07] Adam: It’s probably a lot of libertarians running marathons.
[1:01:07 – 1:01:08] Erik: It’s not the same, man.
[1:01:08 – 1:01:10] Erik: You got to feel like you’re living in the city.
[1:01:10 – 1:01:13] Adam: The world’s my track.
[1:01:13 – 1:01:16] Adam: You’re just running on a public street that was paid for by tax dollars.
[1:01:17 – 1:01:19] Adam: Yeah, and then I’m sure- And then also maintained by tax dollars.
[1:01:19 – 1:01:20] Adam: You’re like, whatever, man.
[1:01:20 – 1:01:21] Adam: I’m just running here.
[1:01:22 – 1:01:26] Erik: I’m totally independent and strong on my own.
[1:01:26 – 1:01:27] Erik: Where’s my water cuppy?
[1:01:27 – 1:01:28] Erik: Give me my cuppy.
[1:01:31 – 1:01:31] Erik: All right, Rourke.
[1:01:32 – 1:01:33] Erik: Yeah.
[1:01:33 – 1:01:34] Erik: Oh, you’re such a genius.
[1:01:34 – 1:01:34] Erik: Yeah.
[1:01:36 – 1:01:36] Erik: Nailed it.
[1:01:38 – 1:01:39] Adam: Yeah, this is a great rant.
[1:01:39 – 1:01:41] Adam: Honestly, in the perfect way to end this episode.
[1:01:41 – 1:01:46] Adam: So thank you not to the people running marathons, but the people that go clean up the little cups after.
[1:01:47 – 1:01:48] Adam: Because you’re the real heroes.
[1:01:48 – 1:01:48] Adam: Yeah.
[1:01:48 – 1:01:51] Adam: And you’re actually the real athletes out there.
[1:01:52 – 1:01:55] Erik: Well, back to the final comment.
[1:01:55 – 1:01:56] Adam: Oh, there’s a comment?
[1:01:56 – 1:01:57] Erik: I told you it was a tangent.
[1:01:58 – 1:02:03] Erik: That was a sentence in before I derailed the show.
[1:02:03 – 1:02:05] Adam: No, it was properly railed.
[1:02:05 – 1:02:06] Adam: Properly railed.
[1:02:13 – 1:02:34] Erik: road rage thank you for properly railing us i pick up garbage anytime i’m out in the park or on any hike it’s such a small effort thing to do that can really pay off if more people would do it i’m sure i’ve accidentally dropped a piece of trash so i try to pick up other stuff to swing the balance back in earth’s favor
[1:02:35 – 1:02:48] Erik: If all of us that actually care about our natural places would grab that corner of the granola bar wrapper, we see on a trail, or if we packed out the tinfoil, some wrecks left in the fire grate, we could start to offset these idiots.
[1:02:49 – 1:02:55] Erik: We also do that when we kayak around our hometown, grab the debris floating in the water or hung up in the log.
[1:02:55 – 1:02:57] Erik: The river will look better the next time you go.
[1:02:58 – 1:03:04] Erik: We’ve recently started volunteering for our local hiking trails when they have trail building days.
[1:03:04 – 1:03:12] Erik: A hard day’s work moving fallen logs or fixing old bridges makes a big difference for all that walk in these woods.
[1:03:14 – 1:03:15] Adam: Here we go.
[1:03:16 – 1:03:17] Adam: Here, here.
[1:03:17 – 1:03:18] Adam: I got a conundrum for you.
[1:03:18 – 1:03:19] Erik: A conundrum for me?
[1:03:19 – 1:03:20] Adam: Thank you, Road Rage.
[1:03:20 – 1:03:30] Adam: I was in a public restroom, and there was a crumpled up piece of toilet paper that appeared to be somewhat covered in blood.
[1:03:31 – 1:03:32] Adam: Somewhat covered in blood.
[1:03:32 – 1:03:34] Erik: Did you clean that up?
[1:03:35 – 1:03:36] Erik: No.
[1:03:36 – 1:03:37] Erik: It’s in a public restroom?
[1:03:38 – 1:03:38] Erik: Yeah.
[1:03:38 – 1:03:39] Erik: No, I’m not picking up.
[1:03:41 – 1:03:42] Erik: No, absolutely not.
[1:03:44 – 1:03:46] Erik: Slightly covered in blood, too?
[1:03:46 – 1:03:47] Erik: Yeah.
[1:03:47 – 1:03:47] Erik: Why?
[1:03:47 – 1:03:49] Erik: That’s gross.
[1:03:49 – 1:03:52] Erik: No, there are people that go in and clean up bathrooms.
[1:03:52 – 1:03:54] Adam: Yeah, minimum wage workers.
[1:03:54 – 1:03:56] Adam: A bathroom is a different story than the wilderness.
[1:03:56 – 1:04:01] Erik: There’s not somebody who’s paid to regularly check in on the woods anymore.
[1:04:02 – 1:04:03] Adam: Yeah, they’re called park rangers.
[1:04:03 – 1:04:06] Erik: I don’t expect them to clean up my candy bar wrappers.
[1:04:06 – 1:04:09] Erik: I don’t think park rangers are paid to go out and clean up.
[1:04:09 – 1:04:13] Erik: They will if they have to, but they’re out there to enforce regulations.
[1:04:13 – 1:04:13] Erik: I’m just saying.
[1:04:13 – 1:04:16] Erik: There are janitors for bathrooms in airports.
[1:04:16 – 1:04:17] Erik: I’m not too concerned if…
[1:04:17 – 1:04:19] Adam: They’re not making enough money to be cleaning that up.
[1:04:19 – 1:04:20] Adam: I guarantee you that.
[1:04:20 – 1:04:22] Adam: It’s already a bathroom.
[1:04:22 – 1:04:22] Adam: It’s like…
[1:04:23 – 1:04:44] Adam: i’m not carrying a hazmat suit on me either but also if there’s blood like no i’m not touching that i wouldn’t even kick it with my like fully booted foot what if you take a little piece of toilet paper and pick it up with that and then throw it away just to be safe just to be safe yeah guess i don’t know are you worried about the cleanliness of a public restroom
[1:04:44 – 1:04:49] Adam: I mean, I don’t want to see it, you know, and I’m looking at it and it’s like, should I pick this up?
[1:04:49 – 1:04:50] Adam: I don’t know.
[1:04:50 – 1:04:52] Adam: I don’t want the next person coming in here finding this.
[1:04:52 – 1:04:55] Adam: I would just take a piece of toilet paper and rest it over it.
[1:04:55 – 1:04:58] Adam: I’m not going to go tell a worker like, hey, your bathroom is covered in blood.
[1:04:59 – 1:05:04] Erik: Or you just do the little thing on some of the gas station bathrooms where there’s the switch.
[1:05:05 – 1:05:08] Erik: I’ve never once flipped that switch.
[1:05:09 – 1:05:11] Erik: If this restroom’s in need of cleaning, please flip the switch.
[1:05:12 – 1:05:14] Erik: Do you imagine they just know exactly who’s flipped it?
[1:05:14 – 1:05:17] Erik: The light comes on and you come walking out of the bathroom.
[1:05:17 – 1:05:18] Erik: It’s like, I don’t want to be that guy.
[1:05:19 – 1:05:23] Erik: Even if the thing literally has shit on the walls, I’m not flipping that switch.
[1:05:23 – 1:05:24] Adam: It’s a whistleblower scenario.
[1:05:24 – 1:05:25] Adam: I didn’t do it.
[1:05:25 – 1:05:28] Adam: This is like me with the mini paddles at Dawson Trail.
[1:05:28 – 1:05:29] Adam: I didn’t touch them.
[1:05:30 – 1:05:30] Adam: Check the tape.
[1:05:31 – 1:05:34] Erik: Yeah, that whole concept seems like rife for a Tim Robinson sketch.
[1:05:34 – 1:05:35] Erik: I would never flip that switch, honestly.
[1:05:36 – 1:05:37] Adam: I’d do the opposite then.
[1:05:37 – 1:05:38] Adam: If they have a switch, I’d just run.
[1:05:39 – 1:05:45] Adam: But if it’s just a normal public restroom, I see something gross, what’s the harm in cleaning it up?
[1:05:45 – 1:05:47] Erik: I’m expecting to see something gross in most.
[1:05:47 – 1:05:57] Adam: I just feel bad because I’ve worked in customer service for so long that if I just leave this here, then some poor minimum wage company
[1:05:57 – 1:05:59] Adam: kid is going to have to clean this up.
[1:06:00 – 1:06:01] SPEAKER_00: That’s going to spoil their day.
[1:06:01 – 1:06:02] SPEAKER_00: I’ll give you…
[1:06:02 – 1:06:05] Adam: I’m more like doing it so the worker doesn’t have to do it.
[1:06:05 – 1:06:09] Erik: I’ll give you some leeway in my original answer.
[1:06:09 – 1:06:10] Erik: If it’s a big…
[1:06:10 – 1:06:14] Erik: If I’m at Costco or like… Yeah, I guess it depends on the kind of business.
[1:06:14 – 1:06:17] Adam: It depends on where the public restroom is for sure.
[1:06:17 – 1:06:19] Erik: If I’m at a Dollar General…
[1:06:19 – 1:06:22] Adam: I’m considering who’s going to have to clean this up if I don’t clean it up.
[1:06:22 – 1:06:31] Erik: If I’m in an Abercrombie or Fitch, all these places I go to regularly, and it’s a big, massive, multi-stall public restroom, no, I’m not.
[1:06:32 – 1:06:33] Erik: I’m not getting involved.
[1:06:33 – 1:06:36] Erik: It could be ticker tape parade.
[1:06:36 – 1:06:40] Erik: It could be the day after grandma’s marathon in there with bloody cuppies.
[1:06:41 – 1:06:42] Erik: I’m not touching one of them.
[1:06:43 – 1:06:45] Erik: But if I am in a single stall locked…
[1:06:47 – 1:07:05] Erik: bathroom public but it’s just the one i might consider maybe picking up a little bit but if it’s just one of those loose you know airport bathrooms i’m not cleaning up in like a like a porta potty at a bluegrass festival when there’s a thousand of them or whatever yeah no just flee
[1:07:06 – 1:07:07] Erik: Yeah, no.
[1:07:07 – 1:07:17] Erik: But if it’s a locked space and nobody could see me, and I also know the person coming in immediately after me might think it was me… See, I wouldn’t do it for that.
[1:07:18 – 1:07:20] Adam: Because somebody else is going to have to clean it up, right?
[1:07:20 – 1:07:22] Adam: And I don’t really care what the next person thinks.
[1:07:22 – 1:07:26] Erik: You would rather do it in the big public space so people could see you being a nice human?
[1:07:26 – 1:07:27] Adam: No, I don’t want that either.
[1:07:27 – 1:07:31] Adam: I just don’t want some poor worker to have to come in and find that later.
[1:07:31 – 1:07:35] Adam: If it’s a simple thing, like it doesn’t require a mop or something…
[1:07:35 – 1:07:36] Erik: Do you know what those people have seen, though?
[1:07:37 – 1:07:38] Erik: I know.
[1:07:38 – 1:07:40] Erik: A little bloody paper towel.
[1:07:40 – 1:07:40] Erik: I know.
[1:07:40 – 1:07:44] Adam: Yes, I do know what those people have seen, and they don’t need to see another one.
[1:07:45 – 1:07:48] Adam: They’re already like that shell-shocked little poodle with a Peter Lorre voice.
[1:07:49 – 1:07:50] Adam: Oh, no, boss.
[1:07:51 – 1:07:52] Adam: Another bloody cop.
[1:07:53 – 1:07:55] Erik: The song from Platoon or whatever.
[1:07:55 – 1:07:56] Erik: Yeah, exactly.
[1:07:57 – 1:07:58] Adam: I’m hearing choppers.
[1:07:58 – 1:07:59] Adam: PTSD, yeah.
[1:07:59 – 1:08:00] Adam: Exactly.
[1:08:00 – 1:08:01] Adam: Anyways, I don’t know.
[1:08:01 – 1:08:15] Adam: It’s all somewhat connected, but I think the point of the whole episode still stands that most of the people listening to this show and most of the people in the Boundary Waters in general are going to do the right thing and clean up, and that’s the deal.
[1:08:15 – 1:08:17] Adam: There’s going to be cans in the ditch.
[1:08:18 – 1:08:19] Adam: You’re going to find micro-litter.
[1:08:19 – 1:08:21] Adam: Sometimes it’s accidental.
[1:08:21 – 1:08:22] Adam: A lot of times it’s not.
[1:08:22 – 1:08:25] Adam: You know, you can’t control what other people are out there doing.
[1:08:25 – 1:08:28] Adam: The only thing you can control out there in the park is what you are doing.
[1:08:28 – 1:08:29] Adam: Yeah.
[1:08:30 – 1:08:31] Adam: And Tomahomies do the right thing.
[1:08:32 – 1:08:32] Adam: The end.
[1:08:34 – 1:08:35] Adam: The end.
[1:08:36 – 1:08:37] Adam: Call me now.
[1:08:38 – 1:08:39] Erik: No, don’t call us now.
[1:08:39 – 1:08:40] Adam: Actually, don’t.
[1:08:40 – 1:08:42] Adam: Our answering machine is not live.
[1:08:42 – 1:08:43] Adam: Very broken.
[1:08:44 – 1:08:51] Erik: Uh, yeah, like we’re 10 seconds beyond a really great place to have ended it, but now we are talking again.
[1:08:51 – 1:08:53] Erik: So how do we want to end it for real?
[1:08:53 – 1:08:57] Adam: Can’t, uh, can’t just go back and chop it either.
[1:08:58 – 1:08:59] Erik: Call me now.
[1:08:59 – 1:09:00] Erik: What could I trade you for?
[1:09:12 – 1:09:14] SPEAKER_00: Kiss on the ear to crack the eyes
[1:09:53 – 1:09:57] SPEAKER_00: This time we’re away, away, away.

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