268: Canoeing with the Cree: One Small Ham

Episode Transcript

[0:00:15 – 0:00:16] UNKNOWN: Thank you.
[0:00:39 – 0:00:43] Adam: Welcome to Tumble Home, a Boundary Wanderers podcast.
[0:00:43 – 0:00:44] Adam: My name is Adam.
[0:00:44 – 0:00:49] Adam: Joining me here in the Tumble Shed is my dear friend Eric on the Springs.
[0:00:49 – 0:00:53] Erik: Hello, it’s Scarick to you.
[0:00:54 – 0:00:56] Erik: The spooky season, welcome.
[0:00:56 – 0:00:58] Adam: Or is your real name Arnold?
[0:00:59 – 0:01:00] Erik: No.
[0:01:00 – 0:01:01] Adam: It actually is Eric.
[0:01:03 – 0:01:04] Erik: Yeah, it’s actually Eric.
[0:01:04 – 0:01:12] Erik: There’s no lengthening or shortening of that as far as I have seen in my almost 40 years of existence now.
[0:01:12 – 0:01:16] Adam: Did you see the lengthened or shortened comet tail last night?
[0:01:16 – 0:01:17] Erik: Yeah, I did.
[0:01:18 – 0:01:19] Adam: That makes us two for two.
[0:01:20 – 0:01:21] Erik: Two for two.
[0:01:21 – 0:01:24] Adam: We saw the comet chug-a-lug.
[0:01:24 – 0:01:25] Adam: Chug-a-lug.
[0:01:25 – 0:01:25] Erik: What are you doing?
[0:01:27 – 0:01:28] Erik: We’re back in the shed.
[0:01:28 – 0:01:33] Adam: Yeah, and the northern lights didn’t sweep the comet’s tail away.
[0:01:33 – 0:01:34] Erik: Didn’t knock the tail off?
[0:01:35 – 0:01:36] Adam: No.
[0:01:36 – 0:01:37] Adam: Leave the tail on the comet.
[0:01:38 – 0:01:40] Adam: Leave the comet alone, Vindleys.
[0:01:41 – 0:01:47] Erik: I have no idea what the comment from last week.
[0:01:47 – 0:01:57] Erik: I was just re-listening to the last week’s episode where I likened the tail getting knocked off the comet to somebody holding down a southerner and shaving off his mullet.
[0:01:59 – 0:01:59] Erik: Oh, boy.
[0:01:59 – 0:02:00] Adam: Yeah, that’s what happened.
[0:02:00 – 0:02:02] Adam: Every 80,000 years, they got to shave the mullet.
[0:02:03 – 0:02:05] Erik: Just knocking off the tail.
[0:02:05 – 0:02:06] Erik: Still there.
[0:02:06 – 0:02:07] Adam: Still there, yeah.
[0:02:07 – 0:02:11] Adam: I walked up the driveway, and it was real brilliant.
[0:02:11 – 0:02:12] Adam: Still hanging on.
[0:02:12 – 0:02:14] Adam: There by Arcturus.
[0:02:14 – 0:02:16] Erik: Long and strong.
[0:02:16 – 0:02:17] Adam: And it should be up again tonight.
[0:02:17 – 0:02:18] Adam: It looks like it’s going to be clear.
[0:02:19 – 0:02:25] Adam: And I posted a couple pictures on the subreddit and on the Discord.
[0:02:26 – 0:02:29] Adam: And it should be really good the next couple nights as long as you have clear viewing.
[0:02:30 – 0:02:36] Adam: But as we said last week, get in while the getting’s good on that Purple Mountain Observatory find.
[0:02:36 – 0:02:37] Erik: Buy low.
[0:02:40 – 0:02:41] Erik: Comet High.
[0:02:41 – 0:02:41] Adam: It’s cruising.
[0:02:42 – 0:02:45] Adam: So, yeah, I was surprised how well you could see it with the eyeball.
[0:02:45 – 0:02:46] Erik: The naked eye?
[0:02:46 – 0:02:49] Adam: Yeah, my eyeball was looked right up there and said, there it is.
[0:02:49 – 0:02:50] Erik: The naked eye.
[0:02:50 – 0:02:51] Adam: I knew right where I was going to look.
[0:02:52 – 0:02:54] Adam: I already pre-looked at the, you know.
[0:02:54 – 0:02:55] Erik: star map.
[0:02:55 – 0:02:57] Erik: You already scouted that area of the sky?
[0:02:57 – 0:02:59] Adam: I knew exactly where it was going to be when I walked.
[0:02:59 – 0:03:07] Adam: But I thought maybe you could see it from the house, but there’s some really big spruce trees right in the way, so I kind of just walked up the driveway, and sure enough, there it is.
[0:03:07 – 0:03:08] Adam: And you could just see it.
[0:03:08 – 0:03:20] Adam: It was amazing, because Natalie and I went and looked at it on the 12th, went up to Mink Lake Beach, and there’s just enough of an angle to the southwest from the beach, and there it was.
[0:03:20 – 0:03:22] Adam: You could just see it for like 10 minutes
[0:03:22 – 0:03:27] Adam: After sunset, but before total darkness, it was right on the horizon.
[0:03:27 – 0:03:28] Erik: Nice.
[0:03:28 – 0:03:30] Adam: And then it was gone.
[0:03:30 – 0:03:30] Adam: It set.
[0:03:30 – 0:03:33] Adam: It wasn’t very impressive at all, but now it’s higher.
[0:03:33 – 0:03:38] Adam: Every night it gets a little bit higher in the sky as it progresses away from the sun.
[0:03:38 – 0:03:40] Erik: Is your blue light facing you?
[0:03:41 – 0:03:42] Adam: It’s a little high.
[0:03:42 – 0:03:43] Erik: You got to twist that.
[0:03:43 – 0:03:43] Erik: There you go.
[0:03:43 – 0:03:45] Erik: It’s a little high, Eric.
[0:03:45 – 0:03:45] Erik: There we go.
[0:03:45 – 0:03:47] Adam: There, now it’s a party.
[0:03:47 – 0:03:53] Erik: The new levelator should take care of that, but just for going forward when we get real serious.
[0:03:53 – 0:03:55] Adam: I usually end up looking for the light.
[0:03:56 – 0:03:57] Adam: Eric has taught me.
[0:03:57 – 0:03:59] Adam: You got to look for the blue light, Adam.
[0:03:59 – 0:03:59] Erik: Mm-hmm.
[0:04:00 – 0:04:07] Adam: Yeah, that was really fun getting to see the comet, and it’s been a hell of a fall for stargazing, skygazing in general.
[0:04:07 – 0:04:12] Erik: Yeah, the skies have been, I mean, say what you will about me missing any kind of weather.
[0:04:13 – 0:04:15] Erik: I will take the crispy, clear nights for…
[0:04:16 – 0:04:39] Erik: mean starters the stars have been incredible and then all of the extracurriculars this obviously chatted about last week the auroras have been uh i mean it’s been a decade since we’ve been living in times sky times like this has been and uh yeah now with the comet you know obviously uh we’re getting you would think close to you know that time of year when things kind of get socked in and
[0:04:40 – 0:04:44] Erik: It’s real dreary like, but the last month has been perfect.
[0:04:44 – 0:04:54] Erik: You know, it’s so disappointing when you look and you see it’s like a KP of eight and it’s just like horribly cloudy on a night where you just, the only time you could possibly imagine is this.
[0:04:55 – 0:04:57] Erik: We just need a clear sky and it’s cloudy.
[0:04:57 – 0:05:01] Erik: But fortunately, this whole fall, I don’t think we’ve missed out on anything because of clouds.
[0:05:02 – 0:05:02] Erik: It’s been great.
[0:05:03 – 0:05:10] Adam: KP Index and BZ Access are getting their sweet revenge after being locked up for the last 10 years.
[0:05:10 – 0:05:10] Adam: Yep.
[0:05:11 – 0:05:13] Adam: They thought about it every day during solar minimum.
[0:05:13 – 0:05:19] Erik: Is this like the… Are we at the peak or are we still going into it?
[0:05:19 – 0:05:21] Adam: 25 is solar max.
[0:05:21 – 0:05:22] Adam: So next year is the actual max.
[0:05:22 – 0:05:23] Adam: Right on.
[0:05:23 – 0:05:24] Adam: Yes, sir.
[0:05:24 – 0:05:26] Adam: All right.
[0:05:26 – 0:05:30] Adam: Tonight on Tomahawk Cinema Classics, we’re talking about the 1962 Cape Fear.
[0:05:32 – 0:05:33] Erik: Oh, my God.
[0:05:33 – 0:05:41] Adam: With Scary Mitchum looking for revenge after being locked up completely justifiably.
[0:05:41 – 0:05:49] Erik: Yeah, we’re going to have a lot to say on why he is so vindictive towards, who is it, Gregory Peck?
[0:05:50 – 0:05:51] Adam: Yeah, he’s mad at Peck.
[0:05:51 – 0:05:51] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:05:52 – 0:05:53] Erik: He’s mad as heck at Gregory Peck.
[0:05:53 – 0:05:56] Erik: He is mad as heck at Gregory Peck.
[0:05:56 – 0:05:57] Erik: What the hell?
[0:05:57 – 0:05:58] Erik: We’re going to get into it tonight.
[0:05:58 – 0:05:58] Erik: We’re getting into it.
[0:05:59 – 0:05:59] Erik: In the original.
[0:06:00 – 0:06:00] Erik: Can’t wait.
[0:06:01 – 0:06:02] Erik: And I also then cannot wait.
[0:06:02 – 0:06:08] Adam: I’m glad we broke it up and didn’t have like a… Yeah, we’re definitely going to watch the new 91 or 92.
[0:06:08 – 0:06:09] Erik: Yes, the 92 Scorsese.
[0:06:10 – 0:06:11] Erik: It’s Scorsese?
[0:06:11 – 0:06:11] Erik: Yes.
[0:06:12 – 0:06:12] Erik: Nick Nolte.
[0:06:12 – 0:06:14] Erik: I haven’t looked into it at all.
[0:06:14 – 0:06:15] Erik: Nick Nolte.
[0:06:16 – 0:06:17] Erik: De Niro.
[0:06:17 – 0:06:18] Erik: De Niro?
[0:06:18 – 0:06:18] Adam: De Niro?
[0:06:20 – 0:06:42] Adam: oh yeah is it also in georgia i think so i didn’t realize until the very end we were in georgia the whole time yes i they don’t make a big deal of like where they are really it appears in like a sign in the background at one point and then they later admit that they are in georgia yeah i can’t wait to take a flight to atl to talk about the atlanta not an all-time low not an all-time low
[0:06:44 – 0:06:46] Erik: Can’t wait to talk about the 62 version.
[0:06:46 – 0:06:47] Erik: I love Mitchum.
[0:06:47 – 0:06:50] Erik: I mean, he just blows everybody out of the water in this movie.
[0:06:50 – 0:06:53] Erik: Juliette Lewis, also in the 92 classic.
[0:06:53 – 0:06:53] Erik: No way.
[0:06:53 – 0:06:54] Erik: She is the daughter.
[0:06:54 – 0:06:56] Erik: Okay.
[0:06:56 – 0:06:59] Erik: And De Niro is Katie, obviously.
[0:07:00 – 0:07:01] Adam: Oh, De Niro is the creep.
[0:07:02 – 0:07:04] Erik: Nick Nolte is the lawyer.
[0:07:04 – 0:07:05] Adam: Nolte is the counselor?
[0:07:06 – 0:07:06] Erik: Yes.
[0:07:06 – 0:07:07] Erik: Counselor?
[0:07:07 – 0:07:07] Erik: I object.
[0:07:08 – 0:07:29] Erik: yeah uh i was actually i’d never seen the original uh very surprised at uh how similar it was but then also very surprised at um how many things were added to the remake in 1992 i’ve never seen the remake either so i’m going into it blind for both of these and i can’t wait now to see the differences yeah
[0:07:29 – 0:07:47] Adam: yeah totally so look forward to that is the ending the same um don’t tell me i don’t want to know until i see it but you know there’s a lot of yeah yeah the song the theme is the song is the same sorry man i had it written down who was in charge of the music too and it’s not coming to me
[0:07:48 – 0:07:52] Erik: Kind of crazy, again, like another one of those movies where it’s just like, dang, 62?
[0:07:53 – 0:07:58] Adam: They were hitting some serious, like… People were twisted in 62.
[0:07:58 – 0:07:59] Adam: Some twisted themes.
[0:07:59 – 0:08:00] Adam: Yeah.
[0:08:00 – 0:08:01] Adam: Katie…
[0:08:01 – 0:08:03] Adam: I don’t think that really anything’s changed, actually.
[0:08:04 – 0:08:07] Erik: Yeah, he’s a bit of a rapist.
[0:08:07 – 0:08:08] Erik: We’ll just say it.
[0:08:08 – 0:08:18] Erik: And the fact that they were just like, yep, we’re going to play this like it is and show this to audiences in 1962, that’s fine.
[0:08:19 – 0:08:20] Adam: He’s going to keep getting away with it.
[0:08:21 – 0:08:24] Adam: The justice system in this country is a goddamn joke.
[0:08:24 – 0:08:28] Erik: Yeah, Mitchum fooling them all once again.
[0:08:28 – 0:08:33] Erik: Him in this and… River of No Return.
[0:08:34 – 0:08:34] Erik: No.
[0:08:34 – 0:08:36] Erik: He’s not really fooling anybody in that one.
[0:08:36 – 0:08:36] Erik: No.
[0:08:37 – 0:08:38] Erik: The Night of the Hunter.
[0:08:38 – 0:08:43] Erik: The Night of the Hunter, where he’s just like, yeah, I’m just a sweet southern gentleman preacher.
[0:08:43 – 0:08:44] Erik: Don’t worry about me.
[0:08:44 – 0:08:50] Erik: At least in this one, they know he’s like an ex-con, but even then, it’s like, how are they letting him get away with this?
[0:08:50 – 0:08:54] Adam: He sold the farm, and he’s got all that money in the bank, so you can’t do anything to him now because he’s not a vagrant.
[0:08:55 – 0:08:56] Erik: He’s got money, so you can’t touch him.
[0:08:56 – 0:08:57] Adam: He’s got money in the bank.
[0:08:57 – 0:08:58] Adam: All right.
[0:08:58 – 0:09:02] Adam: We do have a very special art supply sponsorship for…
[0:09:03 – 0:09:09] Adam: Tonight, this is episode 268 of Tumble Home, a proud independent podcast.
[0:09:09 – 0:09:15] Adam: We are coming to you live in the shed with our deer pup, Arrow, sniffing around by the old tomato cage back there.
[0:09:16 – 0:09:17] Adam: And she’s up to something.
[0:09:18 – 0:09:19] Adam: But we’ve got to get to these sponsors.
[0:09:19 – 0:09:21] Adam: I’m thirsty for justice, Eric.
[0:09:22 – 0:09:22] Erik: Yeah.
[0:09:23 – 0:09:24] Erik: I bet you are.
[0:09:27 – 0:09:28] Adam: That’s a thing.
[0:09:29 – 0:09:29] Adam: It is.
[0:09:29 – 0:09:31] Erik: This is the bug spray beer.
[0:09:32 – 0:09:34] Adam: We also get some of the bug spray.
[0:09:34 – 0:09:34] Adam: Look at this.
[0:09:34 – 0:09:35] Erik: Oh, wow.
[0:09:35 – 0:09:36] Erik: Bugzoother Max.
[0:09:37 – 0:09:39] Erik: You just squirt a little bit of this into your mouth first?
[0:09:39 – 0:09:41] Adam: Yeah, you prime the well with that.
[0:09:44 – 0:09:51] Adam: This was on the board as a Soko bag, which is the brown paper bag that says Soko on it.
[0:09:51 – 0:09:52] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:09:52 – 0:09:55] Adam: This one came in August 10th of this year.
[0:09:56 – 0:09:56] Adam: We do have a note.
[0:09:56 – 0:09:58] Adam: What do you think of that?
[0:09:58 – 0:09:59] Adam: Soko.
[0:10:00 – 0:10:07] Erik: bug soothers bug soothers I don’t think I would ever see a beer that had like a bug spray brand on the front and be like yeah I should probably get that
[0:10:08 – 0:10:22] Adam: Well, yeah, so this was dropped off in person, and I just remember them giving me the basic idea of they did it as, I believe, a joke using a natural bug spray called Bug Soother as the flavoring element.
[0:10:22 – 0:10:23] Adam: Yes.
[0:10:23 – 0:10:27] Adam: But people loved it so much that then they just kept making it.
[0:10:27 – 0:10:28] Adam: I’m going to read the note here.
[0:10:28 – 0:10:34] Erik: Yeah, and then after that, I will read to you the list of ingredients in the actual bug spray.
[0:10:34 – 0:10:36] Erik: I could see it going pretty well in a beer.
[0:10:37 – 0:10:37] Adam: Right on.
[0:10:37 – 0:10:40] Adam: Yeah, this isn’t DEET.
[0:10:40 – 0:10:40] Erik: No.
[0:10:42 – 0:10:45] Adam: Enjoy the bug-repelling beers from Cedar Rapids, Iowa.
[0:10:45 – 0:10:46] Adam: Love the podcast.
[0:10:46 – 0:10:49] Adam: We are on our way to the Clearwater Loop for the week.
[0:10:49 – 0:10:50] Adam: Week.
[0:10:50 – 0:10:50] Adam: Week.
[0:10:51 – 0:10:52] Adam: Beautiful.
[0:10:52 – 0:10:53] Adam: Thank you, Nate and Melissa.
[0:10:56 – 0:10:57] Adam: It’s a very nice note.
[0:10:59 – 0:11:00] Adam: And I don’t know what to think of these beers.
[0:11:01 – 0:11:02] Adam: They came in in the summer.
[0:11:04 – 0:11:05] Adam: There’s not many bugs out there right now.
[0:11:05 – 0:11:08] Erik: No, we don’t need the bug spray anymore too much.
[0:11:08 – 0:11:11] Adam: Save the bug spray for next year’s trip.
[0:11:11 – 0:11:13] Adam: But we will drink these beers tonight.
[0:11:14 – 0:11:15] Adam: This is from Lionbridge.
[0:11:15 – 0:11:16] Adam: Hold on.
[0:11:16 – 0:11:17] Adam: Let me pop one of these off the air.
[0:11:17 – 0:11:22] Adam: It’s Lionbridge Brewing Company out of Iowa, I’m going to say.
[0:11:23 – 0:11:23] Erik: Yeah, it is.
[0:11:24 – 0:11:25] Erik: Back-to-back Iowa beers.
[0:11:25 – 0:11:28] Adam: Bug Soother repels bugs naturally.
[0:11:29 – 0:11:30] Adam: Max spelled the usual way.
[0:11:31 – 0:11:33] Erik: Max spelled the usual way.
[0:11:33 – 0:11:35] Adam: Summer Soother, ale for outdoors.
[0:11:35 – 0:11:37] Adam: Citra hops, lemongrass, and vanilla.
[0:11:37 – 0:11:39] Adam: What’s in the actual bug spray?
[0:11:39 – 0:11:40] Erik: Active ingredients.
[0:11:40 – 0:11:43] Erik: We’ve got 1.5% of each of the following.
[0:11:43 – 0:11:44] Erik: Cedarwood oil.
[0:11:44 – 0:11:45] Adam: Cedarwood.
[0:11:45 – 0:11:47] Erik: Peppermint oil.
[0:11:47 – 0:11:50] Erik: These sound like some good oils to have in the sauna.
[0:11:50 – 0:12:20] Erik: citronella geranium lemongrass geranium thyme and .45% clove oil that sounds good so I don’t know if that story was remembered correctly but it sounded like a joke gone right sorry I jumped you I got too excited no stereo just the full face of a mosquito right on the bug soother yeah
[0:12:22 – 0:12:25] Adam: It’s weird because it does sort of just taste like bug spray.
[0:12:26 – 0:12:43] Adam: But I mean, I guess I’ve been in the Boundary Waters and sprayed so much bug spray on my person that the flavor of bug spray triggers fond memories because it does taste like you’re drinking bug spray, but it also makes me feel good.
[0:12:44 – 0:12:46] Erik: Yeah, no, I’m not opposed to it.
[0:12:46 – 0:12:47] Erik: I think, you know, obviously…
[0:12:47 – 0:12:48] Erik: There’s other things going on here.
[0:12:49 – 0:12:56] Erik: If it was deet involved, you know, that’s a bit of an offensive taste and or smell a little bit.
[0:12:56 – 0:12:58] Erik: But the natural stuff, you know, I like it.
[0:12:59 – 0:13:03] Erik: I like the gnat spelled G-N-A-T-R-U-L-E. Gnat Churli.
[0:13:03 – 0:13:04] Erik: Gnat Churli.
[0:13:05 – 0:13:05] Erik: Thank you.
[0:13:06 – 0:13:07] Erik: Back-to-back weeks.
[0:13:07 – 0:13:09] Erik: Back-to-back-to-back.
[0:13:10 – 0:13:10] Erik: Ooh.
[0:13:11 – 0:13:15] Erik: I don’t want to go back down to Cedar Rapids, Iowa.
[0:13:16 – 0:13:18] Adam: Like a warm, all-wool sweater.
[0:13:18 – 0:13:19] Adam: Totally.
[0:13:19 – 0:13:20] Adam: All-wool.
[0:13:20 – 0:13:21] Adam: You can hang it in the breeze.
[0:13:21 – 0:13:21] Adam: All the time.
[0:13:21 – 0:13:23] Adam: Get those wrinkles out, Eric.
[0:13:23 – 0:13:23] Erik: Yeah.
[0:13:24 – 0:13:26] Erik: You got to listen to those old ladies at the Savers.
[0:13:26 – 0:13:27] Erik: They know what’s up.
[0:13:28 – 0:13:30] Erik: They know where all the good wools are.
[0:13:30 – 0:13:34] Adam: Last week we had a tale of adventure from the Tumble Homies.
[0:13:35 – 0:13:38] Adam: Going up, trying to dare mighty things.
[0:13:39 – 0:13:40] Adam: Making a run at peerless.
[0:13:42 – 0:13:44] Adam: Having dreams of snoozebox.
[0:13:44 – 0:13:45] Adam: Snoozebox.
[0:13:45 – 0:13:54] Adam: I’ve never been in those parts, and I appreciate people daring for greatness, as Teddy Roosevelt once said.
[0:13:54 – 0:13:56] Adam: I did have the whole quote pulled up again.
[0:13:57 – 0:14:04] Adam: I was re-listening to last week’s episode, and I really appreciated the Teddy Roosevelt quote.
[0:14:05 – 0:14:24] Erik: dare mighty things that was great yeah teddy roosevelt back when you used to be able to just f off for a couple of weeks and go hunt out in south dakota as a president nobody cabinets got it under control yeah nobody i mean you probably would have been looked down on if you wouldn’t have just been out hunting and creating national parks as a president in those days
[0:14:26 – 0:14:27] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:14:27 – 0:14:27] Erik: Where is he?
[0:14:27 – 0:14:29] Adam: He’s just out in the badlands somewhere.
[0:14:29 – 0:14:30] Adam: It’s a frontier nation.
[0:14:30 – 0:14:31] Erik: Yeah.
[0:14:31 – 0:14:32] Adam: Now we know where everything is.
[0:14:32 – 0:14:33] Adam: We got Google Maps.
[0:14:33 – 0:14:33] Adam: Yeah.
[0:14:33 – 0:14:34] Adam: Kind of disappointing.
[0:14:34 – 0:14:35] Adam: Look it up.
[0:14:35 – 0:14:36] Adam: There’s no adventure anymore.
[0:14:36 – 0:14:37] Erik: I don’t need to travel.
[0:14:37 – 0:14:43] Erik: I just do the Google Street View and drive around New York City like I’m there.
[0:14:43 – 0:14:46] Adam: It was like the whole world was the Boundary Waters for Teddy Roosevelt.
[0:14:46 – 0:14:49] Adam: Nowadays, we just got a couple million acres set aside.
[0:14:50 – 0:14:50] Adam: Here you go.
[0:14:51 – 0:14:52] Adam: Got some nice lakes in there.
[0:14:52 – 0:14:53] Erik: Yep.
[0:14:54 – 0:14:57] Adam: Be a shame if some mining conglomerate messed it up.
[0:14:57 – 0:14:59] Erik: Be a shame if we destroyed it.
[0:14:59 – 0:15:01] Adam: The one last thing we left you.
[0:15:02 – 0:15:08] Adam: Back then, the whole world was the Boundary Waters and a lot of adventures, a lot of wilderness out there.
[0:15:09 – 0:15:14] Adam: And, yeah, so Teddy was out there daring, daring the mighty things.
[0:15:15 – 0:15:29] Adam: Yeah, anyways, I really enjoyed that track and living vicariously through the audio, finding out that I didn’t realize, I didn’t miss this part on the first listen, that the pig mascot was sponsored by the Disney Corporation.
[0:15:30 – 0:15:31] Erik: Yeah, the Toy Story pig, right?
[0:15:31 – 0:15:32] Adam: That’s the one.
[0:15:32 – 0:15:33] Adam: Winker?
[0:15:33 – 0:15:33] Adam: Ham.
[0:15:33 – 0:15:33] Erik: What’s his name?
[0:15:34 – 0:15:34] Erik: Ham.
[0:15:34 – 0:15:34] Adam: Ham.
[0:15:35 – 0:15:37] Adam: That’s an acronym for something.
[0:15:38 – 0:15:38] Adam: Probably.
[0:15:39 – 0:15:41] Adam: That was a Jay-Z song, no?
[0:15:41 – 0:15:41] Adam: Ham?
[0:15:41 – 0:15:42] Adam: Ham.
[0:15:43 – 0:15:44] Erik: Don’t remember that one.
[0:15:44 – 0:15:49] Adam: Yeah, I believe that was, we’re not going to go any further down that tangent.
[0:15:49 – 0:15:54] Erik: Yeah, I can already, I see where we end in my mind right now and we don’t have to go there.
[0:15:54 – 0:15:56] Adam: Anyways, appreciate the audio.
[0:15:56 – 0:16:00] Adam: It was, every time I re-listen to that one, I hear something different.
[0:16:00 – 0:16:05] Adam: I hear something new in the background, which is one of the beauties of in the field audio.
[0:16:05 – 0:16:05] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:16:06 – 0:16:06] Adam: Layers.
[0:16:07 – 0:16:13] Adam: It’s the sound of the wind in the background or a little comment from somebody just off mic.
[0:16:14 – 0:16:16] Adam: A lot of fun little things in there.
[0:16:16 – 0:16:26] Adam: Kind of like in Cape Fear, the visuals of the reflection of water reflecting on a houseboat under a full moon.
[0:16:27 – 0:16:27] Adam: It’s like that.
[0:16:27 – 0:16:28] Adam: Levels.
[0:16:28 – 0:16:29] Adam: Levels and levels.
[0:16:30 – 0:16:32] Adam: Next time, we will make it to Sniffbox, though.
[0:16:33 – 0:16:44] Adam: Tonight we have another tale of adventure for you on Tumble Home, and we’re discussing the fabulous book, Canoeing with the Cree, by Arnold Eric Severide.
[0:16:45 – 0:16:45] Erik: Oh, no.
[0:16:47 – 0:16:48] Adam: And I’d never read this book before.
[0:16:48 – 0:16:56] Adam: I got me a copy of Paper Book from the library in town and cruised right through this book, but I’d never read it before.
[0:16:56 – 0:17:04] Adam: I’ve heard it said that anybody serious about paddling or the boundary waters should really make sure they give this book a read, and I’m glad I did.
[0:17:05 – 0:17:12] Adam: So we are going to talk about it tonight on the show while we enjoy these delicious Lionbridge beers.
[0:17:13 – 0:17:14] Adam: Erica, do you read this book?
[0:17:14 – 0:17:16] Adam: I think you told me you did, but it was a while ago?
[0:17:17 – 0:17:18] Erik: We’re going to find out.
[0:17:18 – 0:17:23] Erik: I remember reading a number of books kind of in this same vein.
[0:17:24 – 0:17:32] Erik: This might be like the proto like trip journal book to start off anybody in this vein.
[0:17:34 – 0:17:57] Erik: in this direction of like something that you want to read about paddling i think i read another one this is yeah 20 years ago now i we will find out i might come to a conclusion one way or another i might not i might just be like yeah i don’t know i read like 10 of these around the same time that kind of all ran together i remember reading another one that was more contemporary about a
[0:18:02 – 0:18:08] Erik: Of Lake Superior and then did the Grand Portage and then all the way up to Hudson Bay, I think.
[0:18:08 – 0:18:13] Adam: Hudson Bay is where a lot of trips end if you’re really, really nuts about wilderness paddling.
[0:18:13 – 0:18:15] Erik: I think that, yeah, I think that was one of them.
[0:18:15 – 0:18:18] Erik: I remember they just ate like dried mac and cheese the whole time.
[0:18:18 – 0:18:19] Erik: Right in the mouth.
[0:18:19 – 0:18:20] Erik: Right in the mouth.
[0:18:20 – 0:18:27] Erik: Now, even the noodles, just a long soaking mouth, mouth cooking, not even mixing.
[0:18:27 – 0:18:32] Erik: You just got to let those noodles come to al dente and then you sprinkle in a little cheese powder.
[0:18:33 – 0:18:52] Adam: a little thermoplastic powdered thermoplastic right in there and al dente tritistiamo yeah so yeah we’re gonna find out if i if it really comes back to my memory but i’m excited either way i have another book you know like on reserve on the libby app uh ebook i’m waiting on that’s another journey up to you have to wait on an ebook
[0:18:53 – 0:18:53] Adam: Yes.
[0:18:53 – 0:18:54] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:18:55 – 0:18:58] Adam: I’m in line on an e-book.
[0:18:58 – 0:19:00] Erik: We don’t need to get into how all that works.
[0:19:00 – 0:19:01] Erik: I don’t even know.
[0:19:01 – 0:19:02] Erik: I don’t get how all that works.
[0:19:02 – 0:19:08] Adam: Well, I had another book I was waiting on, and then it didn’t give me the notification when it was my turn, and I missed it.
[0:19:09 – 0:19:11] Adam: But I went back the day after.
[0:19:11 – 0:19:15] Adam: I got booted out of line, and nobody else had requested it, so I quick grabbed it.
[0:19:15 – 0:19:16] Adam: Wow.
[0:19:16 – 0:19:19] Adam: I’m not going to talk about that one, but yeah, the Libya, you got to be on top of it.
[0:19:19 – 0:19:25] Adam: I guess I didn’t have my notifications turned on, but I have another one waiting, another journey to Hudson’s Bay.
[0:19:26 – 0:19:33] Adam: Last year we read The 29th Day, which was another trip to Hudson’s Bay, a little farther north up there in Nunavut.
[0:19:34 – 0:19:34] Erik: Bear attack.
[0:19:35 – 0:19:43] Adam: Yeah, and this one, they’re aiming a little bit more for the southern half of Hudson’s Bay on this trip, but…
[0:19:44 – 0:19:55] Adam: Yes, this is the tale of Arnold Eric Severide and Walter Port, who set out for Hudson’s Bay in 1930 and took them 14 weeks.
[0:19:56 – 0:20:05] Adam: They were paid $50 up front for supplies by the Minneapolis Star and then were given another $50 upon the completion of the journey.
[0:20:06 – 0:20:10] Adam: In exchange, they wrote dispatches from the river and the lakes along the way.
[0:20:11 – 0:20:14] Adam: So that’s what the star got out of it?
[0:20:14 – 0:20:15] Adam: The star, yeah.
[0:20:15 – 0:20:16] Adam: So these guys are teenagers.
[0:20:17 – 0:20:27] Adam: And the day school ended, they threw their canoe in the river and then left the Twin Cities and then made their way up the Minnesota River.
[0:20:28 – 0:20:29] Erik: They paddled from the Twin Cities?
[0:20:30 – 0:20:34] Adam: They left from downtown, I don’t know which one, St. Paul.
[0:20:35 – 0:20:39] Adam: They left from the Twin Cities immediately after school was out and then paddled to Hudson’s Bay.
[0:20:40 – 0:20:41] Adam: Dang.
[0:20:41 – 0:20:56] Adam: Yeah, so down the Mississippi, up the Minnesota, and then down the Red River, all the way up Lake Winnipeg, and then through the real wilderness from Lake Winnipeg all the way to Hudson’s Bay.
[0:20:57 – 0:20:59] Erik: This starts out mostly river travel.
[0:20:59 – 0:21:00] Adam: A lot of river.
[0:21:00 – 0:21:01] Adam: Yeah, a lot of river.
[0:21:01 – 0:21:20] Adam: I feel like all these Hudson Bay trips, you got to have high-level canoeing skills, especially in whitewater and handling heavy currents out in the middle of nowhere where if anything goes wrong, you’re not doing mighty things if things are going wrong.
[0:21:20 – 0:21:22] Adam: You’re daring dangerous things then.
[0:21:22 – 0:21:23] Erik: Also the 30s.
[0:21:23 – 0:21:23] Erik: Yeah, 1930s.
[0:21:26 – 0:21:31] Erik: So this was like Kevin Spacey on the train in Iron Will where he’s like uploading.
[0:21:31 – 0:21:39] Erik: He’s like telecomming or whatever technology existed at the time where he’s sending in their little articles on how the week went.
[0:21:39 – 0:21:40] Adam: So I got a map for you here.
[0:21:40 – 0:21:41] Adam: I’m just going to hand you the phone quick.
[0:21:42 – 0:21:45] Adam: You can peruse the map that was included in the book.
[0:21:45 – 0:21:47] Adam: And it shows all the little towns along the way.
[0:21:47 – 0:21:53] Adam: So basically they had a deal with the Minneapolis Star, which was, I guess, before they combined with the Tribune, huh?
[0:21:55 – 0:22:07] Adam: And, yeah, the editor, they just went to the editor, just walked into the editor’s office back in 1929 or whatever, and were like, hey, we’re going to paddle up there and we’ll write you stories.
[0:22:07 – 0:22:07] Adam: What do you say?
[0:22:07 – 0:22:09] Erik: And the guy was like, sounds good, boys.
[0:22:10 – 0:22:10] Adam: Yeah.
[0:22:11 – 0:22:12] Erik: You got yourself a deal.
[0:22:12 – 0:22:14] Adam: That’s not what he said at all.
[0:22:14 – 0:22:20] Adam: But yeah, then from Mankato and Ortonville and Fargo.
[0:22:20 – 0:22:23] Erik: There’s enough places to stop where they could telegram.
[0:22:23 – 0:22:24] Erik: Pembina.
[0:22:25 – 0:22:47] Adam: pembina uh-huh norway house all the way up in norway house they even can get a wire out wow that’s crazy in the 30s even all the way up there they were still able to keep people uh if anybody wants to pull up a map right now and follow along uh describe the general route up to lake winnipeg and then uh from there they traveled north and east uh
[0:22:48 – 0:22:59] Adam: uh towards god’s lake and then down the god’s river uh ending their trip at york factory and they did make it and lived so that’s why there’s a book
[0:23:00 – 0:23:01] Erik: Well, they may have.
[0:23:02 – 0:23:04] Erik: I mean, it could be an unfinished book.
[0:23:05 – 0:23:05] Adam: They wouldn’t have made it.
[0:23:06 – 0:23:07] Adam: They found it.
[0:23:07 – 0:23:15] Adam: They found the manuscript on an island next to the corpse.
[0:23:15 – 0:23:16] Adam: I looked it up, some inflation data.
[0:23:17 – 0:23:21] Adam: His $100 being paid in 1930 didn’t seem like a whole lot.
[0:23:21 – 0:23:22] Adam: 1930?
[0:23:22 – 0:23:23] Adam: This is in 1930.
[0:23:23 – 0:23:28] Adam: They earned, between the two of them, $100 to split for this endeavor, which took them 14 weeks.
[0:23:29 – 0:23:30] Erik: Yeah, what is that today?
[0:23:31 – 0:23:31] Adam: Yeah, what do you think?
[0:23:32 – 0:23:34] Adam: I’m going to let you guess.
[0:23:34 – 0:23:35] Adam: What do you think?
[0:23:35 – 0:23:36] Erik: $100 in 1930.
[0:23:36 – 0:23:38] Erik: $100 in 1930?
[0:23:38 – 0:23:40] Erik: It’s probably like $2,000 today.
[0:23:40 – 0:23:42] Adam: Yeah, pretty good.
[0:23:42 – 0:23:44] Adam: $1,800 is my calculation.
[0:23:44 – 0:23:46] Adam: So they each walked away with $900.
[0:23:46 – 0:23:50] Adam: But they spent a lot of it on candy bars and gear.
[0:23:50 – 0:23:53] Adam: They had to buy their whole outfit.
[0:23:54 – 0:23:57] Adam: I don’t think they really ended up making a ton of money, but…
[0:23:58 – 0:23:59] Adam: I wonder how much money the book made.
[0:23:59 – 0:24:00] Adam: It didn’t say.
[0:24:00 – 0:24:02] Adam: And did he split the process?
[0:24:02 – 0:24:07] Adam: Did he split the proceeds of the book with Walter after?
[0:24:07 – 0:24:08] Adam: I would hope so.
[0:24:08 – 0:24:10] Adam: I would think Walter probably got cut of the book sales.
[0:24:10 – 0:24:12] Erik: And that got published during their lifetime?
[0:24:12 – 0:24:13] Adam: Well, they helped.
[0:24:13 – 0:24:20] Adam: It sounded like they were writing the articles for the newspaper that were coming out live from the wire as they were paddling.
[0:24:21 – 0:24:24] Adam: It sounded like they shared the duties of writing those articles.
[0:24:25 – 0:24:34] Adam: which I did not go and look up to read the raw material from 1930, but then it sounded like Severide just turned that into this book at a later date.
[0:24:35 – 0:24:36] Adam: So who knows how that all worked out.
[0:24:37 – 0:24:41] Adam: I had no indication that they were in bad terms at any point.
[0:24:41 – 0:24:44] Adam: So I’m hoping Walter got a cut of that book sale process.
[0:24:44 – 0:24:44] Erik: Sure.
[0:24:46 – 0:24:47] Erik: One would hope.
[0:24:47 – 0:24:48] Adam: Yeah, I don’t know.
[0:24:48 – 0:24:54] Adam: Severide ended up becoming a serious news reporter going overseas and such.
[0:24:54 – 0:24:55] Erik: Yeah.
[0:24:55 – 0:24:56] Erik: Didn’t he go cover the war?
[0:24:56 – 0:24:58] Erik: He’s a war correspondent.
[0:24:58 – 0:24:58] Adam: Yeah.
[0:24:58 – 0:24:59] Adam: That’s right.
[0:24:59 – 0:25:02] Adam: Correspondence.
[0:25:02 – 0:25:03] Erik: Arnoldspondence.
[0:25:05 – 0:25:10] Adam: Anyways, the whole book is by Eric Severide, Canoeing with the Cree.
[0:25:10 – 0:25:13] Adam: But in the book, he’s referring to himself as Arnold.
[0:25:13 – 0:25:16] Adam: So I was like, what’s going on here?
[0:25:16 – 0:25:19] Adam: I guess Eric Severide was his pen name.
[0:25:19 – 0:25:20] Adam: Oh, nice.
[0:25:20 – 0:25:23] Erik: Spelled incorrectly with a C. Yeah, definitely incorrectly spelled.
[0:25:24 – 0:25:27] Adam: Uh, anyways, yeah, they made a pretty good deal there.
[0:25:27 – 0:25:29] Adam: 1800 bucks for the trip.
[0:25:29 – 0:25:30] Erik: For 14 weeks?
[0:25:31 – 0:25:32] Adam: Uh, for 14 weeks.
[0:25:32 – 0:25:33] Adam: Is that minimum wage?
[0:25:34 – 0:25:36] Adam: Oh, it’s definitely not.
[0:25:36 – 0:25:37] Adam: They weren’t doing it for the money.
[0:25:37 – 0:25:40] Erik: No, but I mean, would you do that for $900?
[0:25:40 – 0:25:40] Erik: Yeah.
[0:25:42 – 0:25:42] Adam: Today?
[0:25:43 – 0:25:43] Erik: Yes.
[0:25:44 – 0:25:45] Erik: Yeah, sure.
[0:25:45 – 0:25:46] Erik: For what?
[0:25:46 – 0:25:48] Adam: What is that?
[0:25:48 – 0:25:52] Adam: Nobody paid us anything to go do their Quetico trip for a month, but that was only four weeks.
[0:25:52 – 0:25:54] Adam: This is 14 weeks.
[0:25:54 – 0:25:58] Erik: Stu Osthoff gave me some money for the article that I got published in the BWJ.
[0:25:58 – 0:25:58] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:25:58 – 0:26:02] Erik: It was probably like $250, but it’s back there somewhere.
[0:26:02 – 0:26:06] Erik: If anybody wants to look it up and find it, it’s in the annals.
[0:26:06 – 0:26:07] Adam: Back in volume 12.
[0:26:08 – 0:26:11] Erik: Yeah, I don’t know when that would have been.
[0:26:11 – 0:26:12] Erik: 2012, 13, somewhere in there.
[0:26:13 – 0:26:20] Adam: So, yeah, anyways, any library in this state should have several copies of this book.
[0:26:20 – 0:26:23] Adam: If anybody hasn’t read it, you may want to hit pause at this point.
[0:26:23 – 0:26:28] Adam: I will say this right up at the top here that I’m not going to, like, read all the way to the end of the book.
[0:26:28 – 0:26:34] Adam: we will basically leave the last part of it up for grabs.
[0:26:34 – 0:26:44] Adam: So you can listen to this now if you want and then go read the book or you can go read the book and then come back and listen to the rest of this if you want or do it in any version you want.
[0:26:45 – 0:26:47] Adam: Before we get into the book, I’m going to have one more sip of this beer.
[0:26:47 – 0:26:47] Adam: It’s pretty good.
[0:26:48 – 0:26:48] Adam: Summer soother.
[0:26:49 – 0:26:49] Erik: Yeah.
[0:26:49 – 0:26:54] Erik: Do you need a little spritz on the top there just to bring out some of the flavors?
[0:26:54 – 0:26:56] Adam: Yeah, that’s the way you do it.
[0:26:56 – 0:26:56] Adam: That’s the key.
[0:26:56 – 0:26:58] Adam: Yikes.
[0:26:59 – 0:27:02] Adam: Basically, these guys had no camping experience whatsoever.
[0:27:02 – 0:27:08] Adam: They were two dumb teenagers with a lot of energy to burn.
[0:27:08 – 0:27:10] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:27:11 – 0:27:13] Adam: They just decided one day they’re going to do it.
[0:27:13 – 0:27:14] Adam: I think it was Walter’s idea.
[0:27:14 – 0:27:17] Erik: That’s how you used to have to do things, though.
[0:27:17 – 0:27:17] Erik: Yeah.
[0:27:18 – 0:27:24] Erik: You can’t spend a year researching and watching YouTube videos and testing it out.
[0:27:24 – 0:27:25] Erik: You just got to go for it.
[0:27:25 – 0:27:29] Adam: I will be reading some passages from the book directly, and we’ll start with this one.
[0:27:30 – 0:27:35] Adam: Considering our inexperience, we finally selected a fairly compact and durable outfit.
[0:27:35 – 0:27:41] Adam: Our canoe was 18 feet long, an American-made cruiser model with a wide beam and a small keel.
[0:27:42 – 0:27:46] Adam: Some canoeists argued against the use of a keel, but later on we were thankful we had one.
[0:27:47 – 0:27:49] Adam: The sans souci, we christened her.
[0:27:50 – 0:27:51] Adam: That was Walt’s idea.
[0:27:51 – 0:27:52] Adam: It means without care.
[0:27:53 – 0:27:54] Adam: We painted it on her.
[0:27:54 – 0:27:56] Adam: Minneapolis to Hudson Bay.
[0:27:56 – 0:28:04] Adam: In order to beat other buyers for the canoe, which was secondhand and on which the middle thwart was missing, we had to skip some of our final examinations.
[0:28:05 – 0:28:17] Adam: One necessary item we deliberately neglected to secure until we were assured of the star’s backing was the consent of our folks, who were caused more worry the ensuing summer than the hides of Walt and me were worth.
[0:28:18 – 0:28:22] Adam: but when they saw we had everything figured out almost to the last detail, they said yes, like good sports.
[0:28:23 – 0:28:25] Adam: Both our dads wish they could go too.
[0:28:26 – 0:28:27] Erik: Like good sports.
[0:28:28 – 0:28:30] Adam: They’re good sports, all right.
[0:28:31 – 0:28:32] Adam: Yeah, so I like that.
[0:28:32 – 0:28:34] Adam: They just basically went to a newspaper…
[0:28:34 – 0:28:37] Adam: 1930, and they were like, hey, we’re going to do this trip.
[0:28:37 – 0:28:39] Adam: You guys want to pay us 50 bucks?
[0:28:40 – 0:28:42] Adam: And that was enough to buy a complete outfit.
[0:28:42 – 0:28:43] Adam: I like that term.
[0:28:44 – 0:28:50] Adam: We bought a fairly compact and durable outfit, which in this book means like all their stuff.
[0:28:50 – 0:28:51] Adam: Yeah.
[0:28:51 – 0:28:57] Adam: What we would call gear or outfitting is just an outfit, which is where the term outfitting comes from.
[0:28:57 – 0:28:58] Adam: It’s from this book.
[0:28:58 – 0:28:58] Erik: It’s from this book.
[0:28:59 – 0:29:00] Erik: It’s a direct quote.
[0:29:00 – 0:29:01] Erik: That’s a Severidism.
[0:29:02 – 0:29:03] Erik: They just graduated high school.
[0:29:04 – 0:29:04] Erik: Yeah.
[0:29:04 – 0:29:05] Erik: Perfect.
[0:29:05 – 0:29:06] Adam: Yeah.
[0:29:06 – 0:29:08] Adam: They left on June 17th.
[0:29:10 – 0:29:11] Erik: Seems a little late, but you know.
[0:29:12 – 0:29:12] Adam: Yeah.
[0:29:12 – 0:29:16] Adam: I have a list of the, yeah.
[0:29:16 – 0:29:22] Adam: It just says they pushed off into the Mississippi and rode the fast current down a mile and turned into the channel of the Minnesota River.
[0:29:22 – 0:29:23] Adam: There you go.
[0:29:24 – 0:29:24] Erik: Wow.
[0:29:24 – 0:29:26] Erik: Downstream and then immediately upstream.
[0:29:26 – 0:29:27] Adam: Yeah, back into the current immediately.
[0:29:28 – 0:29:32] Adam: I’m going to read through the entirety of their packing list, though.
[0:29:32 – 0:29:35] Adam: I think this is always a fun thing to do if they’re provided.
[0:29:35 – 0:29:38] Adam: And I don’t know why they formatted it this way.
[0:29:38 – 0:29:40] Adam: It’s in tiny lettering, two columns.
[0:29:40 – 0:29:41] Adam: Wow.
[0:29:41 – 0:29:42] Adam: 18-foot canoe.
[0:29:43 – 0:29:43] Erik: Check.
[0:29:43 – 0:29:44] Adam: Check.
[0:29:44 – 0:29:45] Adam: This is the outfit.
[0:29:45 – 0:29:46] Adam: Yes.
[0:29:46 – 0:29:50] Adam: This is what you need if you’re going to paddle from Minneapolis to Hudson’s Bay.
[0:29:50 – 0:29:52] Erik: Yeah, so listeners at home, get your pens out.
[0:29:52 – 0:29:55] Adam: You’re going to want to write these down in your notebook.
[0:29:55 – 0:29:56] Erik: Tried and true.
[0:29:56 – 0:29:58] Adam: This is all you need, and you will make it.
[0:29:59 – 0:30:01] Adam: No questions asked.
[0:30:01 – 0:30:05] Adam: 18-foot canoe, three 5-foot copper-tipped paddles.
[0:30:05 – 0:30:05] Adam: Copper-tipped?
[0:30:05 – 0:30:07] Adam: You ever hear of a copper-tipped paddle?
[0:30:07 – 0:30:07] Adam: No.
[0:30:08 – 0:30:09] Erik: No, that’s incredible.
[0:30:09 – 0:30:12] Erik: I mean, it sounds… Copper tipped.
[0:30:12 – 0:30:15] Erik: Like it kind of maybe might make some sense back in the 30s.
[0:30:16 – 0:30:17] Adam: Do you ever send these on a trip?
[0:30:17 – 0:30:19] Adam: Two sponges for canoe cleaning.
[0:30:20 – 0:30:22] Erik: Yeah, we had sponges.
[0:30:22 – 0:30:23] Erik: Sometimes people would ask for them.
[0:30:23 – 0:30:24] Adam: Oh, they bring them with.
[0:30:24 – 0:30:28] Adam: I remember cleaning canoes with a sponge, but never having one on a trip.
[0:30:28 – 0:30:33] Erik: Just some light, you know, when you’re not at full bailing mode, you just need to get a little bit out.
[0:30:33 – 0:30:37] Adam: Yeah, I can say right now that they don’t give a whole lot more detail on what kind of canoe this was.
[0:30:38 – 0:30:39] Erik: It’s an American-made.
[0:30:39 – 0:30:40] Adam: American-made cruiser.
[0:30:40 – 0:30:41] Adam: It’s got a cruiser craft.
[0:30:41 – 0:30:42] Adam: With a keel.
[0:30:43 – 0:30:46] Adam: Pack sack with food in small canvas bags.
[0:30:46 – 0:30:49] Adam: Pack sack with clothes and miscellaneous articles.
[0:30:49 – 0:30:52] Adam: Four wool blankets rolled in two rubber ponchos.
[0:30:53 – 0:30:53] Adam: Nice.
[0:30:53 – 0:30:55] Adam: That’s the way to roll your blankets.
[0:30:55 – 0:30:57] Adam: Gunny sack with cooking utensils.
[0:30:58 – 0:30:58] Adam: There we go.
[0:30:59 – 0:31:00] Adam: One army pup tent.
[0:31:01 – 0:31:01] Erik: One tent.
[0:31:01 – 0:31:01] Erik: One tent.
[0:31:01 – 0:31:03] Adam: Yeah, it’s like a tube tent.
[0:31:03 – 0:31:04] Adam: It’s like a tube tent except a triangle.
[0:31:05 – 0:31:05] Adam: Exactly.
[0:31:05 – 0:31:08] Adam: 22 caliber rifle, single shot.
[0:31:08 – 0:31:10] Adam: Ooh, all right.
[0:31:10 – 0:31:11] Adam: 1,000 bullets.
[0:31:11 – 0:31:12] Adam: 1,000 bullets.
[0:31:12 – 0:31:14] Adam: What are you guys, packing for the Oregon Trail?
[0:31:14 – 0:31:15] Adam: Yeah, that sounds like it.
[0:31:15 – 0:31:16] Adam: You got to hunt some bison?
[0:31:17 – 0:31:19] Adam: All-purpose pocket knife.
[0:31:19 – 0:31:21] Adam: Skinning knife in sheath.
[0:31:21 – 0:31:23] Adam: Heavy hatchet in sheath.
[0:31:23 – 0:31:25] Adam: Pocket whetstone.
[0:31:25 – 0:31:27] Adam: Bottle of boot oil.
[0:31:28 – 0:31:29] Adam: Bottle of mosquito lotion.
[0:31:29 – 0:31:30] Adam: There we go.
[0:31:30 – 0:31:30] Adam: Cheers.
[0:31:30 – 0:31:32] Erik: I wonder what the ingredients on that were.
[0:31:32 – 0:31:34] Adam: Their mosquito lotion?
[0:31:34 – 0:31:35] Adam: Yeah.
[0:31:35 – 0:31:36] Adam: Eucalyptus.
[0:31:36 – 0:31:37] Adam: Boiled down kerosene.
[0:31:37 – 0:31:38] Erik: Carnations.
[0:31:38 – 0:31:41] Erik: Heavy, greasy oil of some sort.
[0:31:45 – 0:31:47] Adam: Bottle of mosquito lotion.
[0:31:47 – 0:31:48] Adam: Bottle of mosquito…
[0:31:48 – 0:31:50] Adam: Length of mosquito netting.
[0:31:50 – 0:31:50] Adam: There we go.
[0:31:50 – 0:31:51] Erik: A length of mosquito netting.
[0:31:52 – 0:31:52] Adam: A length.
[0:31:52 – 0:31:53] Adam: What’s a length?
[0:31:54 – 0:31:55] Adam: Two fathoms.
[0:31:55 – 0:31:56] Adam: Just enough.
[0:31:56 – 0:31:56] Adam: Yeah.
[0:31:57 – 0:31:57] Adam: Diary book.
[0:31:58 – 0:31:58] Adam: There we go.
[0:31:59 – 0:32:02] Adam: Waterproof match container with matches.
[0:32:02 – 0:32:04] Adam: One gallon water bag.
[0:32:04 – 0:32:06] Adam: One tin pail.
[0:32:06 – 0:32:07] Adam: Rod and reel.
[0:32:08 – 0:32:08] Adam: All right.
[0:32:09 – 0:32:10] Adam: What is this one, Eric?
[0:32:10 – 0:32:11] Adam: Smoked glasses.
[0:32:12 – 0:32:12] Erik: Hmm.
[0:32:14 – 0:32:15] Adam: Is that just sunglasses?
[0:32:15 – 0:32:16] Erik: I think so.
[0:32:16 – 0:32:17] Erik: I think that sounds like glasses.
[0:32:17 – 0:32:18] Adam: Smoked glasses.
[0:32:18 – 0:32:20] Adam: Sunglasses, yeah.
[0:32:20 – 0:32:22] Adam: It’s for seeing the fish.
[0:32:22 – 0:32:24] Erik: To not getting the snow blindness.
[0:32:25 – 0:32:26] Adam: Length of small rope.
[0:32:26 – 0:32:28] Adam: Personal toilet articles.
[0:32:28 – 0:32:29] Adam: Okay.
[0:32:30 – 0:32:30] Adam: First aid kit.
[0:32:31 – 0:32:32] Adam: Separate item.
[0:32:32 – 0:32:37] Erik: Do they list any of the actual food or do they just say gunny sack or whatever with food?
[0:32:37 – 0:32:39] Adam: No, the food supplies are listed last.
[0:32:39 – 0:32:39] Adam: Okay, nice.
[0:32:40 – 0:32:40] Adam: You’ll enjoy them.
[0:32:40 – 0:32:42] Adam: Yes.
[0:32:42 – 0:32:42] Adam: First aid kit.
[0:32:43 – 0:32:45] Adam: Traveler’s checks, $5 in cash.
[0:32:45 – 0:32:46] Adam: Traveler’s checks.
[0:32:46 – 0:32:47] Adam: Traveler’s checks.
[0:32:47 – 0:32:49] Adam: Did you ever have a traveler’s check?
[0:32:49 – 0:32:50] Erik: No, I still…
[0:32:50 – 0:32:51] Erik: I mean, have we talked about this?
[0:32:51 – 0:32:57] Erik: I feel like we just have no idea how they work, how you get them or… You can redeem them anywhere.
[0:32:57 – 0:32:58] Adam: I think it was the…
[0:32:58 – 0:32:58] Adam: They’re cash in hand.
[0:32:59 – 0:33:05] Erik: I think it was the Office Space episode of one of the TCCs where it was like, what do you even do with traveler’s checks?
[0:33:05 – 0:33:05] Erik: Like…
[0:33:06 – 0:33:12] Adam: It always is just represented in movies by like automatically having like all of that money and you could take it anywhere.
[0:33:12 – 0:33:16] Adam: I was traveling as a teen in the 90s and traveler’s checks were a thing.
[0:33:16 – 0:33:17] Adam: Traveler’s checks were king.
[0:33:17 – 0:33:19] Adam: But they didn’t have like ATMs.
[0:33:19 – 0:33:19] Erik: No.
[0:33:19 – 0:33:25] Adam: There was like cash exchange stores or like little kiosks at the train station in Europe.
[0:33:26 – 0:33:32] Adam: You just bring it to- And you would just go up and you would take whatever pile of cash you had and they would just switch it over to Swiss money or-
[0:33:34 – 0:33:53] Erik: francs or wherever you were because this is before the hero how many travelers checks are you bringing with your how many travelers checks are you bringing to toronto toronto yeah oh five hundred dollars at least and also five dollars in cash and we just have to find a nice hotel with a concierge yeah that can do a money exchange for us for a fee fair sure
[0:33:56 – 0:33:57] Adam: Closely cropped hair.
[0:33:57 – 0:34:02] Adam: That was listed as an item on their packing list is they had closely cropped hair.
[0:34:02 – 0:34:03] Erik: I love that.
[0:34:03 – 0:34:04] Erik: Yes.
[0:34:04 – 0:34:07] Erik: One of the items on the packing list is a fresh haircut.
[0:34:07 – 0:34:08] Adam: Fresh haircut for the road.
[0:34:08 – 0:34:09] Adam: Okay.
[0:34:09 – 0:34:11] Adam: Carefully examined teeth.
[0:34:12 – 0:34:13] Erik: Wow.
[0:34:13 – 0:34:16] Erik: These kids are teenagers are really thinking this through.
[0:34:17 – 0:34:19] Adam: They were not paying attention to any of their classes.
[0:34:20 – 0:34:21] Adam: I don’t know how they passed their final exams.
[0:34:21 – 0:34:25] Adam: They both were like accepted into university too, but smart lads.
[0:34:26 – 0:34:29] Adam: Camera with films, plural.
[0:34:29 – 0:34:29] Adam: Yep.
[0:34:30 – 0:34:30] Adam: Okay.
[0:34:30 – 0:34:31] Adam: You need the films.
[0:34:31 – 0:34:33] Adam: Maps with army compass.
[0:34:34 – 0:34:35] Adam: Cooking grate.
[0:34:36 – 0:34:37] Adam: Can of canoe tar.
[0:34:38 – 0:34:39] Erik: Oh, sure.
[0:34:39 – 0:34:42] Erik: Got to patch up the old cruiser craft.
[0:34:42 – 0:34:44] Adam: Cruiser keel needs a little tar today.
[0:34:45 – 0:34:46] Adam: High boots.
[0:34:47 – 0:34:48] Adam: Next item.
[0:34:48 – 0:34:50] Adam: Many pairs of wool sock.
[0:34:50 – 0:34:51] Erik: Many pairs.
[0:34:51 – 0:34:52] Adam: Yeah, of course.
[0:34:53 – 0:34:53] Adam: All right.
[0:34:54 – 0:34:55] Adam: Breaches.
[0:34:56 – 0:34:58] Adam: Breaches or britches?
[0:34:58 – 0:35:01] Adam: Breaches plus long trousers.
[0:35:01 – 0:35:02] Adam: So what are breaches?
[0:35:02 – 0:35:04] Adam: They’re like short trouser?
[0:35:04 – 0:35:05] Erik: Breaches?
[0:35:05 – 0:35:07] Adam: Breaches are just like under trousers.
[0:35:08 – 0:35:09] Erik: Is that like long underwear?
[0:35:09 – 0:35:10] Adam: Yeah, is that like…
[0:35:11 – 0:35:13] Adam: Is this like the opposite of assless chaps?
[0:35:14 – 0:35:16] Erik: Full breeches.
[0:35:16 – 0:35:17] Erik: Full ass chaps.
[0:35:17 – 0:35:18] Adam: All the ass.
[0:35:19 – 0:35:20] Adam: Wool shirt.
[0:35:20 – 0:35:21] Adam: Cotton shirt a piece.
[0:35:21 – 0:35:22] Adam: All right.
[0:35:22 – 0:35:23] Adam: So you get one of each.
[0:35:23 – 0:35:25] Adam: Heavy wool underwear for sleeping.
[0:35:25 – 0:35:27] Adam: Okay.
[0:35:27 – 0:35:27] Erik: Yeah.
[0:35:28 – 0:35:29] Adam: Roll that up in the poncho.
[0:35:29 – 0:35:30] Erik: Only for sleeping, though.
[0:35:30 – 0:35:31] Erik: You got to keep that stuff dry.
[0:35:31 – 0:35:32] Adam: You do.
[0:35:32 – 0:35:33] Adam: You got to save it.
[0:35:34 – 0:35:35] Adam: Heavy sweater a piece.
[0:35:35 – 0:35:37] Adam: Excellent as pillows, in parentheses.
[0:35:37 – 0:35:39] Adam: See, they got that figured out.
[0:35:39 – 0:35:40] Adam: Swimming suits.
[0:35:41 – 0:35:41] Erik: All right.
[0:35:41 – 0:35:43] Erik: I don’t know if those were necessary.
[0:35:43 – 0:35:43] Adam: You don’t need those.
[0:35:44 – 0:35:45] Adam: Felt hats with wide brims.
[0:35:46 – 0:35:46] Erik: Oh, wow.
[0:35:46 – 0:35:50] Erik: There were some ladies in at the restaurant the other day with some felt hats with wide brims.
[0:35:50 – 0:35:51] Erik: Looking dapper.
[0:35:51 – 0:35:52] Erik: Looking great.
[0:35:52 – 0:35:53] Erik: All right.
[0:35:53 – 0:35:54] Erik: Frying pan?
[0:35:55 – 0:35:55] Erik: Cast iron?
[0:35:56 – 0:35:56] Adam: Doesn’t say.
[0:35:56 – 0:35:57] Adam: Probably.
[0:35:57 – 0:35:58] Erik: There was no aluminum back then.
[0:35:58 – 0:36:00] Adam: Didn’t have no aluminum boys back then.
[0:36:01 – 0:36:03] Adam: Two small kettles with loop handles.
[0:36:04 – 0:36:04] Adam: Wow, I’m big.
[0:36:05 – 0:36:06] Adam: Two tin cups.
[0:36:07 – 0:36:09] Adam: Three pie tins for plates.
[0:36:09 – 0:36:10] Adam: Yep.
[0:36:10 – 0:36:10] Adam: There we go.
[0:36:10 – 0:36:11] Adam: One for serving.
[0:36:11 – 0:36:13] Adam: Tablespoons, not teaspoons.
[0:36:14 – 0:36:39] Adam: specifically mentioned yes there’s no use for teaspoons in the wilderness only this is a tablespoon trip tablespoons only steel wool to clean pans that’s the end of the supplies now for the food are you ready for the food pack rations is going to be very interesting do you have any questions so far no i don’t have any questions so far uh some things you ever have anybody take a 22 cal uh caliber rifle with them on a trip
[0:36:39 – 0:36:40] Erik: Yeah, I don’t know.
[0:36:40 – 0:36:43] Adam: I’ve been on a trip with you with a 20-gauge shotgun.
[0:36:43 – 0:36:45] Erik: Yeah, I’ve done some shotguns.
[0:36:45 – 0:36:50] Erik: I’ve done some surf and turf trips where you go through some trout and some grouse in the same day.
[0:36:51 – 0:36:53] Adam: They had to buy more bullets at one point.
[0:36:53 – 0:36:55] Erik: We’re out of our 1,000 bullets.
[0:36:56 – 0:36:58] Adam: Our ammunition crate is empty.
[0:36:59 – 0:37:01] Adam: All right, here’s the food supplies that they had.
[0:37:02 – 0:37:02] Adam: Are you ready?
[0:37:02 – 0:37:04] Adam: This is for 14 weeks.
[0:37:04 – 0:37:08] Adam: They were obviously able, because they were stopping in a lot of towns, to resupply often.
[0:37:08 – 0:37:16] Erik: Yeah, I was going to say, I feel like with the resupply option and all those sweet, sweet cashier’s checks, you don’t have to bring everything.
[0:37:16 – 0:37:17] Erik: Traveler’s checks.
[0:37:17 – 0:37:18] Erik: Traveler’s checks, yes.
[0:37:18 – 0:37:20] Adam: Yeah, these are as good as gold, Jerry.
[0:37:20 – 0:37:21] Erik: Yeah, you just trade them.
[0:37:21 – 0:37:22] Adam: All right, food supply.
[0:37:23 – 0:37:24] Adam: One small ham.
[0:37:27 – 0:37:48] Erik: we are starting off amazingly this trip’s going to be a smashing success how long did the ham last i don’t know they never really talked about it i was i was pretty disappointed actually wait wait wait wait yes oh all right i just want to know ham would give me like a two hands how big is a small a small ham in your okay like that
[0:37:49 – 0:37:50] Erik: So just like one of those.
[0:37:50 – 0:37:54] Adam: I would call it a quarter ham, but I don’t know what hams were shaped like back in the 30s.
[0:37:54 – 0:37:56] Erik: Kind of like grapefruit sized?
[0:37:57 – 0:37:58] Adam: Yeah, maybe a pumelo.
[0:37:58 – 0:38:00] Erik: A pumelo sized ham.
[0:38:00 – 0:38:01] Adam: Yeah, maybe a, yeah.
[0:38:02 – 0:38:02] Erik: Bone in?
[0:38:03 – 0:38:04] Erik: Spiral cut?
[0:38:04 – 0:38:04] Erik: Glazed?
[0:38:04 – 0:38:05] Erik: What are we talking here?
[0:38:05 – 0:38:06] Adam: I didn’t say.
[0:38:06 – 0:38:09] Adam: I would hope it’s bone in.
[0:38:09 – 0:38:09] Adam: Small though.
[0:38:10 – 0:38:11] Adam: Small ham.
[0:38:11 – 0:38:11] Adam: Okay.
[0:38:11 – 0:38:12] Adam: With bone.
[0:38:13 – 0:38:16] Adam: It doesn’t say, and I don’t want to put words in their mouth.
[0:38:16 – 0:38:19] Adam: Walt, if you’re out there, if you’re listening, please hit us up.
[0:38:19 – 0:38:21] Adam: Tomolomcast at Instagram.com.
[0:38:21 – 0:38:22] Adam: How big was the ham?
[0:38:22 – 0:38:25] Adam: How big was the ham, and was it spiral cut, and was there bone?
[0:38:26 – 0:38:27] Adam: Next up.
[0:38:28 – 0:38:28] Adam: Side of bacon.
[0:38:29 – 0:38:30] Adam: Don’t you dare.
[0:38:30 – 0:38:31] Erik: Side of bacon?
[0:38:31 – 0:38:31] Erik: All right.
[0:38:31 – 0:38:32] Adam: Side of bacon.
[0:38:32 – 0:38:32] Adam: Nice.
[0:38:32 – 0:38:33] Adam: What’s a side of bacon?
[0:38:34 – 0:38:35] Adam: A whole slab of bacon.
[0:38:35 – 0:38:36] Adam: Is that a slab of bacon?
[0:38:36 – 0:38:37] Erik: Yeah, it’s like a big…
[0:38:38 – 0:38:42] Erik: It’s like about the size of that laptop, maybe like an inch to an inch and a half thick.
[0:38:42 – 0:38:44] Erik: Probably wasn’t even pre-cut.
[0:38:44 – 0:38:45] Adam: I probably had to cut that baby up as needed.
[0:38:45 – 0:38:47] Adam: That’s the best way to have it, though.
[0:38:48 – 0:38:49] Adam: Pound of tea.
[0:38:49 – 0:38:50] Adam: Okay.
[0:38:52 – 0:38:53] Adam: Two pounds of sugar.
[0:38:53 – 0:38:55] Erik: Okay.
[0:38:55 – 0:38:55] Erik: Okay.
[0:38:56 – 0:39:25] Adam: half pound of salt hmm all right reverse those uh amounts i think next up was the rice how many pounds of rice would you take on a trip of this how many pounds of rice yeah how many pounds of rice five pounds 10 pounds of rice were brought not bad okay they uh just listed unfortunately no uh volume listed but just peanut butter oh probably a 10 can of peanut butter we were talking peanut butter last week and eric did look it up there is you can buy a 10 can of just peanut butter
[0:39:26 – 0:39:29] Erik: Well, I don’t know if you still can.
[0:39:29 – 0:39:35] Erik: That was an old, that was a vintage can of peanut butter from like the 70s for sale on Etsy.
[0:39:35 – 0:39:35] Adam: Right on.
[0:39:36 – 0:39:42] Adam: I should call up my rep at Upper Lakes Food and be like, can I get like a case of large cans of peanut butter?
[0:39:42 – 0:39:43] Adam: They don’t sell it like that anymore.
[0:39:43 – 0:39:46] Adam: You get a 35-pound bucket of peanut butter these days.
[0:39:46 – 0:39:46] Adam: Get real.
[0:39:46 – 0:39:47] Erik: Plastic is king.
[0:39:47 – 0:39:50] Erik: They’re not putting anything in cans anymore.
[0:39:50 – 0:39:50] Adam: Grow up.
[0:39:52 – 0:39:54] Adam: Pound of flour for frying fish.
[0:39:54 – 0:39:56] Adam: That’s what the flour’s for?
[0:39:56 – 0:39:58] Adam: One pound of flour for frying fish.
[0:39:58 – 0:39:59] Adam: And then it just says bread.
[0:40:01 – 0:40:01] Erik: Bread?
[0:40:01 – 0:40:01] Erik: Bread.
[0:40:01 – 0:40:02] Adam: Any butter?
[0:40:02 – 0:40:02] Erik: Oil?
[0:40:02 – 0:40:03] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:40:03 – 0:40:05] Adam: Three pounds of raisins.
[0:40:06 – 0:40:06] Adam: What?
[0:40:06 – 0:40:08] Adam: Three pounds of prunes.
[0:40:08 – 0:40:08] Erik: Ugh.
[0:40:09 – 0:40:09] Erik: Gross.
[0:40:10 – 0:40:11] Adam: Potatoes.
[0:40:13 – 0:40:15] Adam: No listing on weight.
[0:40:16 – 0:40:17] Adam: Several can of bean.
[0:40:18 – 0:40:19] Adam: Several can of bean.
[0:40:20 – 0:40:20] Adam: Okay.
[0:40:21 – 0:40:22] Adam: Supply of uncooked bean.
[0:40:23 – 0:40:24] Erik: All right.
[0:40:24 – 0:40:27] Erik: Uncooked bean sounds better than bean.
[0:40:27 – 0:40:29] Erik: Several can of prepared soup.
[0:40:30 – 0:40:53] Adam: wow and last item what would you bring one more item you can have well i haven’t seen i haven’t heard anything mentioned in terms of like an oil or a butter to cook these fish in nothing they’re not giving you that so i would say pounds and pounds of butter or like a full wheel of cheese would be a no cheese that’s really disappointing they didn’t bring any cheese along it was sweet chocolate yeah all right no amount given
[0:40:54 – 0:41:09] Adam: and sweet chocolate sweetest of chocolates i don’t know um i have a passage i can um regal you with as far as one of their first memorable meals uh what do you think are you ready for this
[0:41:10 – 0:41:18] Erik: I mean, based on those ingredients, I would hope that there was some fresh shot bird or caught fish.
[0:41:18 – 0:41:20] Adam: This was our chance to get a fat snapper.
[0:41:21 – 0:41:24] Adam: We could never get close enough for a shot with our .22, it seemed.
[0:41:24 – 0:41:30] Adam: But one day, as we glided under overhanging willows, we saw a turtle sleeping right ahead of us on the bank.
[0:41:31 – 0:41:35] Adam: As Walt guided the boat closer, I leaned over the bow, and nearly falling out of the canoe, I grabbed it.
[0:41:36 – 0:41:40] Adam: Having a third passenger was so much fun we decided to keep it alive until night.
[0:41:40 – 0:41:47] Adam: So the turtle, who we named Alice, was jammed up in the curve of the bow, blocked in with our wire cooking grate.
[0:41:48 – 0:41:50] Adam: Alice kicked and scratched all day until we shot her.
[0:41:52 – 0:41:52] Erik: Oh my god.
[0:41:53 – 0:41:54] Erik: That sounds horrible.
[0:41:57 – 0:41:59] Erik: They named it and then they just shot it?
[0:41:59 – 0:42:00] Erik: Why name it?
[0:42:00 – 0:42:03] Adam: Because it was so much fun to torture a turtle.
[0:42:03 – 0:42:07] Erik: Let’s torture this poor animal for a while and then just put it out of its misery.
[0:42:07 – 0:42:08] Erik: This is some Mitchum shit here.
[0:42:11 – 0:42:12] Adam: Do it slow.
[0:42:12 – 0:42:13] Adam: Oh, God.
[0:42:13 – 0:42:14] Adam: We got to do it slow.
[0:42:14 – 0:42:15] Adam: You’re going to remember this.
[0:42:16 – 0:42:17] Adam: Long time.
[0:42:17 – 0:42:20] Adam: Ellis kicked and scratched all day until we shot her.
[0:42:21 – 0:42:24] Adam: Walt was elected surgeon to get the brute apart.
[0:42:25 – 0:42:28] Adam: He started in with the knife, but it was our camp axe that did the work.
[0:42:28 – 0:42:29] Erik: Yeah.
[0:42:29 – 0:42:31] Adam: A can opener probably would have been better.
[0:42:31 – 0:42:33] Adam: The meat, we found, was all on the upper legs.
[0:42:34 – 0:42:38] Adam: It was a tough job getting the hide off, but three pounds of meat rewarded us.
[0:42:38 – 0:42:39] Adam: We boiled it.
[0:42:40 – 0:42:45] Adam: Boiling, we learned, is the most practical method of cooking wild animals and fowls when you are in the wood.
[0:42:46 – 0:42:49] Adam: I had read somewhere that turtle soup should be highly seasoned, so I did that.
[0:42:49 – 0:42:54] Adam: With the first swallow, Walt let out a howl and jumped up for the water bag.
[0:42:54 – 0:42:57] Adam: Thereafter, we ruled turtle soup off the list of eatables.
[0:42:58 – 0:43:25] Erik: wow so he tried some and he was like yeah and then he just went and guzzled a bunch of water because maybe you over seasoned it maybe yeah maybe i don’t know they never had another turtle the first night of the trip they ate three pounds of turtle leg the first night they’re already desperately just slaughtering turtles oh they caught it first and played with it then they murdered it yeah they jacked around with it in the boat for a little while
[0:43:26 – 0:43:27] Erik: All right.
[0:43:27 – 0:43:29] Erik: Well, I mean, that’s the 30s for you.
[0:43:29 – 0:43:32] Erik: You know, a little mild animal torture that gets the meat tasting real good.
[0:43:35 – 0:43:36] Adam: The fear.
[0:43:36 – 0:43:37] Adam: The fear, yeah.
[0:43:37 – 0:43:41] Adam: The Cape Fear in the turtle itself.
[0:43:41 – 0:43:42] Adam: That’s what really makes the seasoning.
[0:43:44 – 0:43:44] Erik: Wow.
[0:43:44 – 0:43:46] Erik: I mean, that’s the first night?
[0:43:46 – 0:43:53] Adam: They learned the first night how to surgeon a turtle, and then they also deemed it was not eatable anymore.
[0:43:54 – 0:43:59] Adam: But they also agreed that boiling of any animal is the proper way to cook an animal, is by boiling.
[0:44:00 – 0:44:02] Adam: So there, you didn’t eat any butter.
[0:44:02 – 0:44:03] Erik: Boil it.
[0:44:03 – 0:44:04] Erik: Yeah, I guess.
[0:44:04 – 0:44:10] Erik: In terms of being safe, not to talk about alone again for the 12th straight episode.
[0:44:10 – 0:44:12] Adam: I like how they called it a beast, too.
[0:44:12 – 0:44:13] Adam: It’s a real beast.
[0:44:14 – 0:44:18] Adam: You plucked it off of a floating log and then tortured it for half a day and then murdered it.
[0:44:18 – 0:44:21] Erik: And clubbed it with an axe to get at the sweet, sweet upper leg meat.
[0:44:21 – 0:44:32] Erik: But boiling, you know, I mean, if you want to not worry about getting any kind of like, you know, reptilian virus or, you know, turtle flu.
[0:44:32 – 0:44:33] Erik: Yeah, boil.
[0:44:33 – 0:44:34] Erik: You got to boil it long and…
[0:44:35 – 0:44:55] Erik: slow but hard at the same time that’s all those alone people are doing they’re just like constantly on the edge of like well I don’t know this is good or bad but I think if I boil it long enough it should take care of anything that would make me sick then they still get sick they still got sick yeah they weren’t doing good
[0:44:58 – 0:45:00] Adam: Do you have any questions at this point?
[0:45:00 – 0:45:02] Adam: I’m trying to figure out my next question.
[0:45:02 – 0:45:03] Erik: Nothing too major.
[0:45:03 – 0:45:11] Erik: I feel like we could go back and, with a fine-tooth comb of criticisms, maybe make some suggestions for the food packing list.
[0:45:11 – 0:45:15] Erik: But, you know, high schoolers in the 30s, not the worst start.
[0:45:17 – 0:45:18] Erik: Just a turtle a day.
[0:45:19 – 0:45:20] Adam: One turtle a day, no problem.
[0:45:20 – 0:45:21] Adam: Drink lots of water.
[0:45:22 – 0:45:23] Erik: You’ll be fine.
[0:45:24 – 0:45:25] Erik: Hmm.
[0:45:30 – 0:45:32] Adam: Who wrote these notes down?
[0:45:32 – 0:45:33] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:45:33 – 0:45:34] Erik: You?
[0:45:34 – 0:45:35] Adam: I’m on the right page.
[0:45:35 – 0:45:36] Adam: Next up, page 28.
[0:45:37 – 0:45:39] Erik: Hanging half in the water.
[0:45:40 – 0:45:52] Adam: So the way I take my notes, I’m reading directly from the book, everybody, but the way I take my notes is I just sort of generally write down the first sentence that I want to start with, and I cannot find it.
[0:45:52 – 0:45:53] Adam: This is really embarrassing.
[0:45:53 – 0:45:53] Adam: Okay.
[0:45:54 – 0:45:56] Erik: Oh, well, we can pause.
[0:45:56 – 0:45:57] Erik: I could use a pause.
[0:45:57 – 0:46:01] Adam: Actually, let’s take a pause and really think about that turtle while I figure out my next passage here.
[0:46:01 – 0:46:02] Erik: You mean Alice?
[0:46:02 – 0:46:05] Adam: Alice, our dear friend and enemy.
[0:46:05 – 0:46:06] Adam: Call her by her name.
[0:46:07 – 0:46:08] Adam: Put some respect on that turtle.
[0:46:10 – 0:46:11] Adam: And we’re back.
[0:46:12 – 0:46:12] Adam: All right.
[0:46:14 – 0:46:18] Adam: Leaving town, a group of boys helped us make a difficult portage over a dam.
[0:46:18 – 0:46:20] Adam: A number of times, we were helped this way.
[0:46:20 – 0:46:23] Adam: By this time, we were well accustomed to sitting erect all day.
[0:46:23 – 0:46:28] Adam: We had learned to paddle with easy, rhythmical strokes, and our arms did not ache anymore at night.
[0:46:29 – 0:46:31] Adam: We soon found the stern seat the more comfortable.
[0:46:32 – 0:46:36] Adam: My legs were too long to stretch out in the bow, so when I was up front I often paddled on my knees.
[0:46:37 – 0:46:39] Adam: I grew to like that method, but Walt always preferred sitting up.
[0:46:40 – 0:46:49] Adam: Another jumping fish, a big catfish this time, would have landed in the canoe and been eaten for supper had it not hit my knee with a resounding smack.
[0:46:50 – 0:46:52] Adam: I shall never forget the night of July the 3rd.
[0:46:53 – 0:46:58] Adam: We pitched the tent on a level prairie several yards away from the fringe of trees that line the river.
[0:46:58 – 0:47:03] Adam: Noticing that the breeze was rising, we staked the tent so the entrance faced away from the wind.
[0:47:03 – 0:47:07] Adam: Sometime after midnight, I was awakened by a flash of lightning.
[0:47:07 – 0:47:11] Adam: It revealed Walt, sitting in the entrance, peering out in the darkness.
[0:47:11 – 0:47:14] Adam: This is going to be some storm, he said.
[0:47:15 – 0:47:18] Adam: The wind increased and rain began pattering on the flapping sides of the tent.
[0:47:19 – 0:47:20] Adam: Then the storm broke.
[0:47:20 – 0:47:24] Adam: Thunder crashed and the rain swept down across the unprotected field and driving sheets.
[0:47:26 – 0:47:32] Adam: Then we heard the hoofbeats and remembered a herd of horses we had noticed grazing when we retired.
[0:47:33 – 0:47:36] Adam: Our hearts pounded as the thudding hoofbeats grew louder and louder.
[0:47:37 – 0:47:38] Adam: The herd was bearing down upon us.
[0:47:39 – 0:47:41] Adam: Could they see the tent in the blackness?
[0:47:42 – 0:47:55] Adam: We had no time to think nor to speak to each other, but quivering lay flat on the ground as the sound of the panic-stricken beasts increased to a roar, and suddenly they were past, their black forms whistling by on either side.
[0:47:56 – 0:48:03] Adam: Their noise died away as quickly as it had come, and the next flash of lightning showed our faces, damp with sweat and chalk white.
[0:48:03 – 0:48:08] Adam: In the wet light of the dawn we found our canoe turned completely over and lying half in a field.
[0:48:10 – 0:48:14] Erik: Would your first instinct in that scenario be just to lay flat on the ground?
[0:48:15 – 0:48:17] Adam: That’s not what you’re supposed to do in a horse attack.
[0:48:17 – 0:48:18] Adam: Yeah.
[0:48:18 – 0:48:23] Adam: Has anybody ever been trammeled by a horse, beat, hoof beat?
[0:48:25 – 0:48:26] Erik: Trammeled by a horse?
[0:48:26 – 0:48:27] Adam: Has anybody ever had this?
[0:48:28 – 0:48:30] Adam: Camped on the prairie near a river?
[0:48:30 – 0:48:32] Adam: Their canoe was not half in the field.
[0:48:32 – 0:48:33] Adam: It was half in the water.
[0:48:33 – 0:48:35] Adam: Their canoe almost got blown away, too.
[0:48:35 – 0:48:36] Adam: That was the note.
[0:48:37 – 0:48:38] Erik: It didn’t get stampeded away?
[0:48:38 – 0:48:38] Erik: That was the wind?
[0:48:38 – 0:48:40] Adam: No, the horses avoided the tent and the canoe.
[0:48:41 – 0:48:43] Erik: Do you think horses, can they see at night real well?
[0:48:44 – 0:48:45] Adam: They have excellent eyesight.
[0:48:45 – 0:48:46] Adam: You’ve seen how big.
[0:48:47 – 0:48:50] Adam: I have a horse that’s about the size of a grapefruit, maybe even a pomelo.
[0:48:51 – 0:48:52] Erik: Don’t get me started on horse eyes.
[0:48:52 – 0:48:55] Adam: It’s about the same size as a small ham.
[0:48:55 – 0:48:57] Adam: Each eye, and they can see for miles.
[0:48:57 – 0:49:02] Erik: That’s the first thing I think of when I think about the size of a horse’s eye.
[0:49:02 – 0:49:03] Erik: It’s like a small ham.
[0:49:03 – 0:49:04] Adam: It’s like about a small ham.
[0:49:05 – 0:49:05] Adam: Or a pomelo.
[0:49:07 – 0:49:08] Erik: Bone-in ham or a pomelo.
[0:49:08 – 0:49:09] Erik: It’s a horse apiece.
[0:49:10 – 0:49:12] Adam: That’s where the phrase comes from.
[0:49:12 – 0:49:12] Erik: Totally, yeah.
[0:49:12 – 0:49:21] Erik: I just don’t know if getting down and spreading out more opportunities for you to get impaled by a hoof on the ground would be great.
[0:49:21 – 0:49:22] Erik: I know it probably feels a little bit better.
[0:49:22 – 0:49:23] Adam: You should stand up.
[0:49:23 – 0:49:24] Erik: I’d rather be upright, yeah.
[0:49:25 – 0:49:26] Adam: Make yourself narrow.
[0:49:26 – 0:49:30] Erik: Even if I get run into, that’s way better than being stepped on and trampled a bunch of times.
[0:49:31 – 0:49:58] Erik: yeah worst case scenario yeah it’s like you fall down in like a some kind of a parade slash like I don’t know like a like a large marathon or something the last thing you want to do is fall down trample to death sounds horrible stay upright that’s my bit of advice that’s what we’re gonna do next time next time this happens to us on our trip when we’re up in Wabakimi if we ever hear the horses coming yeah
[0:49:58 – 0:49:59] Adam: Everybody up.
[0:49:59 – 0:50:01] Adam: Everybody stand up on your life jacket.
[0:50:01 – 0:50:02] Erik: Get up.
[0:50:02 – 0:50:03] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:50:03 – 0:50:04] Erik: To make yourself look bigger.
[0:50:04 – 0:50:05] Adam: Yeah, exactly.
[0:50:05 – 0:50:06] Adam: Not to protect against the roots.
[0:50:10 – 0:50:13] Adam: Moving on to the chapter just titled Snakes.
[0:50:15 – 0:50:15] Erik: Wow.
[0:50:15 – 0:50:17] Erik: A whole chapter titled Snakes, huh?
[0:50:18 – 0:50:29] Adam: The chapters in this book aren’t that long, and they did have a camera with films, so there are some pictures included, at least in this edition of the book.
[0:50:29 – 0:50:30] Erik: You get to see some pictures?
[0:50:30 – 0:50:41] Adam: Yeah, there are black and white reproductions of their pictures, but I assume when it was published in the Star originally that the pictures… Did they have color pictures in 1930?
[0:50:41 – 0:50:42] Adam: When did we get color films?
[0:50:44 – 0:50:45] Erik: Probably right around that time.
[0:50:45 – 0:50:48] Erik: I think it was probably pretty cutting-edge technology.
[0:50:48 – 0:50:49] Adam: I just watched Cape Fear from 62.
[0:50:49 – 0:50:50] Adam: That was in black and white.
[0:50:51 – 0:50:52] Adam: Well, those are moving pictures.
[0:50:52 – 0:50:54] Adam: That was for moving pictures, though.
[0:50:54 – 0:50:57] Erik: I think that they had color still photography by the 30s.
[0:50:57 – 0:50:58] Erik: I’m going to go out on a limb.
[0:50:58 – 0:51:01] Erik: I’m going to go out on a hoof and say that that existed.
[0:51:02 – 0:51:04] Erik: But I’m sure the boys didn’t have that technology.
[0:51:06 – 0:51:10] Adam: We’re making our way up to the upper Minnesota River at this point.
[0:51:11 – 0:51:18] Adam: The river was not more than 20 feet wide, and it was a hard job to swing our 18-foot cruiser canoe around the sharp bends.
[0:51:19 – 0:51:21] Adam: Twice we had to cut our way through fallen branches.
[0:51:22 – 0:51:29] Adam: Then we made our second mistake in direction when we got on the Little Whetstone Creek and dragged the canoe for an hour before Walt realized the error.
[0:51:30 – 0:51:31] Adam: He was familiar with this country.
[0:51:31 – 0:51:36] Adam: Ortonville was his hometown, although he had left it 10 years ago.
[0:51:37 – 0:51:37] Erik: That’s what people do.
[0:51:37 – 0:51:39] Erik: Ortonville.
[0:51:39 – 0:51:40] Adam: They leave Ortonville.
[0:51:40 – 0:51:40] Adam: 10 years ago.
[0:51:40 – 0:51:42] Adam: Yeah.
[0:51:43 – 0:51:45] Adam: Best time to leave Ortonville was 10 years ago.
[0:51:45 – 0:51:45] Erik: 10 years ago.
[0:51:46 – 0:51:47] Erik: The second best time was today.
[0:51:49 – 0:51:51] Adam: That’s what’s on their billboard when you drive into Ortonville.
[0:51:51 – 0:51:52] Erik: Yeah, totally.
[0:51:52 – 0:51:53] Adam: Have you been to Ortonville?
[0:51:53 – 0:51:54] Adam: Yes.
[0:51:54 – 0:51:55] Adam: I have no idea where this is.
[0:51:55 – 0:51:56] Adam: This is out on the prairie somewhere?
[0:51:56 – 0:51:59] Erik: This is right on the border between Minnesota and South Dakota.
[0:52:02 – 0:52:06] Adam: Ortonville was his hometown, although he had left it 10 years ago.
[0:52:06 – 0:52:09] Adam: At lunchtime, we saw a little lamb about an hour old.
[0:52:10 – 0:52:11] Adam: He was a little black fellow.
[0:52:11 – 0:52:15] Erik: Did they club it to death and then shoot the mom or something?
[0:52:15 – 0:52:16] Adam: They named it Teddy.
[0:52:16 – 0:52:17] Erik: Oh, no.
[0:52:17 – 0:52:17] Adam: This is not good.
[0:52:18 – 0:52:19] Adam: Whenever they start naming the animals.
[0:52:19 – 0:52:21] Adam: They struggled it for several days and then clubbed it to death, Eric.
[0:52:21 – 0:52:22] Erik: Oh, God.
[0:52:22 – 0:52:23] Erik: They named it.
[0:52:23 – 0:52:23] Erik: That’s bad.
[0:52:23 – 0:52:24] Erik: This is a bad sign.
[0:52:26 – 0:52:28] Adam: We got to start naming our food more on a trip.
[0:52:28 – 0:52:31] Adam: If we catch a pike on our next trip, we should name it.
[0:52:31 – 0:52:32] Erik: It’s veal tonight, Walter.
[0:52:34 – 0:52:39] Adam: He was a little black fellow, and his legs wobbled under him as he stood beside his mother.
[0:52:40 – 0:52:48] Adam: As the light grew weaker towards evening, we paddled out onto Big Stone Lake, and the long fight of three weeks with the Minnesota River was ended.
[0:52:48 – 0:52:51] Adam: 500 miles were behind us, and almost one-fourth of the journey was over.
[0:52:52 – 0:52:55] Adam: From now on, we would have to paddle upstream.
[0:52:55 – 0:52:56] Adam: We would never have to paddle upstream.
[0:52:57 – 0:53:02] Adam: On the South Dakota side of the lake, we camped, and in the night, a terrific storm rolled up the lake.
[0:53:02 – 0:53:06] Adam: A woman in a nearby cottage told us she had worried about us in the night.
[0:53:07 – 0:53:09] Adam: Sleeping out in that tiny tent, she said.
[0:53:09 – 0:53:11] Erik: I read all about you in the Star.
[0:53:12 – 0:53:14] Erik: Very worried about you.
[0:53:14 – 0:53:15] Adam: You lads are famous.
[0:53:16 – 0:53:18] Erik: Turtle boys, they call you.
[0:53:18 – 0:53:19] Erik: Oh, the old turtle boys.
[0:53:19 – 0:53:24] Erik: We’ve all kept our animals under lock and key now that we know you’re about.
[0:53:24 – 0:53:25] Adam: Oh my gosh.
[0:53:25 – 0:53:28] Erik: Yes, Big Stone Lake is, I’ve fished that lake before.
[0:53:28 – 0:53:29] Adam: Oh, you have?
[0:53:29 – 0:53:29] Erik: Mm-hmm.
[0:53:30 – 0:53:34] Adam: As for us, protected by giant cottonwoods, we slept like logs.
[0:53:34 – 0:53:39] Adam: As we made ready to repaint the bottom of the badly scraped canoe, I discovered our paddles were gone.
[0:53:39 – 0:53:41] Adam: I asked Walt where he had put them.
[0:53:41 – 0:53:42] Adam: Holy smoke, bud!
[0:53:43 – 0:53:43] Adam: Now I remember.
[0:53:44 – 0:53:45] Adam: I laid them right on the beach and forgot them.
[0:53:46 – 0:53:47] Adam: The storm must have washed them away.
[0:53:48 – 0:53:54] Adam: We were genuinely frightened then, for we had made inquiries and knew there was not a paddle to be bought in the town.
[0:53:54 – 0:54:01] Adam: But rowing in a borrowed boat along the shore, we came upon both of them close together, caught in some reeds a half mile away.
[0:54:01 – 0:54:02] Adam: Wow.
[0:54:02 – 0:54:02] Adam: There we go.
[0:54:03 – 0:54:04] Erik: Copper tips.
[0:54:04 – 0:54:05] Erik: Holy smokes, bud.
[0:54:05 – 0:54:06] Erik: Holy smokes, bud.
[0:54:07 – 0:54:08] Adam: They lost their paddle.
[0:54:08 – 0:54:13] Adam: You’re not allowed to go on a trip and write a book about it unless you lose your canoe and your paddles multiple times.
[0:54:13 – 0:54:15] Erik: They’re only going to make that mistake once, I’m sure.
[0:54:15 – 0:54:16] Adam: Maybe.
[0:54:16 – 0:54:17] Erik: Oh, no.
[0:54:18 – 0:54:20] Adam: They could just break their paddles later.
[0:54:20 – 0:54:21] Adam: I don’t think they lose them ever again.
[0:54:22 – 0:54:23] Erik: Copper-tipped.
[0:54:23 – 0:54:25] Erik: I kind of want a copper-tipped paddle.
[0:54:25 – 0:54:30] Adam: Anybody out there listening know where we can get our hands on a copper-tipped Kevlar paddler?
[0:54:30 – 0:54:32] Adam: I want to get my Zavarol just dipped in copper.
[0:54:33 – 0:55:02] Adam: dipped in liquid copper completely defeat the purpose of having the uh the lightweight 10 ounces and now it’s three pounds and worth it though smash a baby lamb to bits teddy you’re coming for you what was the the lamb’s name teddy teddy no i just made that part up they didn’t name it and they let the lamb live apparently or they just didn’t tell us about their murder yeah so big stone lake they’re getting getting up there yeah the headwaters almost
[0:55:03 – 0:55:24] Erik: yeah i don’t know if they’re getting up there this is big stones like directly west of essentially where the twin cities are so they’re like still pretty much level with where they make it sound like the minnesota river is pretty small at this point uh next passage is entitled camp was made wait wait wait wait where were the what weren’t there supposed to be snakes
[0:55:25 – 0:55:26] Adam: I don’t know why the chapter was named Snakes.
[0:55:26 – 0:55:28] Adam: They just saw snakes at one point.
[0:55:28 – 0:55:32] Adam: I just recalled that it was… You could see at the top of the page it was…
[0:55:32 – 0:55:34] Adam: This chapter is called Tragedy Almost.
[0:55:35 – 0:55:36] Erik: Tragedy Almost?
[0:55:36 – 0:55:38] Adam: Tragedy Almost.
[0:55:38 – 0:55:44] Erik: Did they do anything in the book to make you… To like… How it was…
[0:55:44 – 0:55:46] Erik: I don’t know how to say this.
[0:55:46 – 0:55:46] Erik: Like…
[0:55:47 – 0:55:51] Erik: Was this rewritten or recomposed after the fact?
[0:55:52 – 0:55:58] Erik: Or is it, like, is it published in a way that makes sense, like, how it was published in the Star at the time in the 30s?
[0:55:58 – 0:56:03] Adam: Yeah, I don’t think these are just the articles, like, republished and all together in a book.
[0:56:03 – 0:56:08] Adam: I feel like they wrote the articles separate, and then later, after, like, thinking about the trip more, he…
[0:56:09 – 0:56:20] Adam: probably used the articles as source material and then like wrote like a whole nother thing yeah the book was like um you know the articles and then some sure a little bit more and a little perspective
[0:56:20 – 0:56:24] Erik: But it’s not like each chapter was like, this is this week’s installment.
[0:56:24 – 0:56:25] Adam: No, it wasn’t really like that.
[0:56:25 – 0:56:31] Adam: But I mean, you know, you’re kind of just getting their story of what happened, the highlights of their trip, basically, as they go.
[0:56:31 – 0:56:34] Adam: So probably to some degree, yeah, that’s what the articles were about.
[0:56:35 – 0:56:39] Adam: And then they sort of just, you know, put them all together into a nice little book.
[0:56:40 – 0:56:44] Erik: What do you think would happen if we both walked into the offices, wherever they are?
[0:56:44 – 0:56:46] Erik: Who knows if they’re even our offices?
[0:56:46 – 0:56:55] Erik: Probably have to be like the home of somebody with a stand-up desk and be like, hey, we’re paddling to the Hudson Bay from here.
[0:56:55 – 0:56:56] Erik: Yeah.
[0:56:56 – 0:57:00] Erik: And we will send in weekly trip reports.
[0:57:01 – 0:57:03] Erik: How much will you pay us to do that?
[0:57:03 – 0:57:04] Erik: What would they say?
[0:57:04 – 0:57:05] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:57:05 – 0:57:06] Adam: I think they’d tell us to get lost.
[0:57:06 – 0:57:07] Erik: They’d laugh probably?
[0:57:07 – 0:57:07] Erik: Yeah.
[0:57:08 – 0:57:09] Adam: We don’t do that kind of thing anymore.
[0:57:09 – 0:57:12] Adam: Plus, now there’s at least 10 different books on the subject.
[0:57:13 – 0:57:15] Adam: But when did this happen?
[0:57:15 – 0:57:16] Adam: Back in 1930.
[0:57:16 – 0:57:17] Adam: Nobody had paddled there.
[0:57:19 – 0:57:23] Adam: You’ll see at the end, as far as they know, nobody’s even done this route before.
[0:57:25 – 0:57:28] Adam: And nobody had certainly written articles about it, nor a book.
[0:57:29 – 0:57:31] Erik: We’re coming up on the 100-year anniversary, though.
[0:57:31 – 0:57:34] Erik: I feel like the opportunity here is…
[0:57:34 – 0:57:35] Erik: Right.
[0:57:35 – 0:57:35] Erik: It’s there.
[0:57:36 – 0:57:37] Erik: We can do this.
[0:57:37 – 0:57:43] Erik: We got five years to put together a plan to make whatever $100 is in 2030 monies.
[0:57:43 – 0:57:44] Erik: Just ask for $2,000 to do it.
[0:57:44 – 0:57:45] Erik: $2,000 and we will…
[0:57:52 – 0:58:00] Erik: Text you through Starlink or whatever current form of getting you information will be at the time.
[0:58:01 – 0:58:02] Adam: Nightly dispatches.
[0:58:02 – 0:58:03] Erik: Nightly dispatches.
[0:58:03 – 0:58:04] Erik: You can track us on the GPS.
[0:58:04 – 0:58:05] Adam: We don’t need to sell it to a newspaper.
[0:58:06 – 0:58:07] Adam: We just make our own website.
[0:58:07 – 0:58:09] Erik: No, I know, but it would be way more.
[0:58:09 – 0:58:11] Adam: Set up a Tic Tac.
[0:58:11 – 0:58:14] Erik: No, set up a Tic Tac.
[0:58:14 – 0:58:16] Adam: You pay us a dollar to get our Tic Tac password.
[0:58:16 – 0:58:26] Erik: I’m assuming the star is still like the original version of what is now like the Star Tribune or the North Star, Minnesota Star or whatever.
[0:58:26 – 0:58:27] Adam: Yeah, Star of the North.
[0:58:27 – 0:58:30] Erik: The Star of the North, whatever they are now.
[0:58:30 – 0:58:31] Erik: So there would be something there.
[0:58:31 – 0:58:32] Adam: Heart of the North.
[0:58:33 – 0:58:34] Erik: This is a thing.
[0:58:34 – 0:58:34] Erik: We should do it.
[0:58:35 – 0:58:37] Adam: The 100th anniversary.
[0:58:37 – 0:58:41] Adam: We’ll use wabakimi to really get warmed up and get our keels whistling.
[0:58:43 – 0:58:44] Adam: Yes, whistling the keels.
[0:58:44 – 0:58:47] Adam: Then we’ll get our sack of potatoes and ramp it up for 2030.
[0:58:47 – 0:58:54] Erik: Yeah, I’ll start doing research on where to get the finest small hams.
[0:58:54 – 0:58:55] Adam: There we go.
[0:58:55 – 0:58:56] Adam: That’s the key.
[0:58:56 – 0:58:57] Adam: I think we should bring two small hams.
[0:58:58 – 0:58:59] Adam: At least.
[0:58:59 – 0:59:01] Adam: 2030, you know, we’re in modern times.
[0:59:01 – 0:59:02] Adam: We’ve learned a thing or two.
[0:59:02 – 0:59:03] Adam: One ham per man.
[0:59:05 – 0:59:10] Adam: Camp was made above a fast, shallow stretch, the first rapid we would run down through.
[0:59:11 – 0:59:16] Adam: In the morning, after carefully studying it, we negotiated it successfully and felt like veterans.
[0:59:17 – 0:59:19] Adam: If we had only known what lay ahead.
[0:59:20 – 0:59:27] Adam: We thoroughly enjoyed the day of paddling with a strong current, along banks that oozed with the Red River mud, which we had learned so much about.
[0:59:27 – 0:59:32] Adam: Hundreds of frogs covered the bank, and finally the idea of frog legs for supper popped in our head.
[0:59:33 – 0:59:39] Adam: Frogs have more lives than a cat, and some of them I must have cracked over the head a dozen times before killing them.
[0:59:39 – 0:59:39] Erik: My God.
[0:59:40 – 0:59:46] Adam: Several little farm boys waded across the river to our camp with a gift of a half dozen eggs and a pail of fresh milk.
[0:59:46 – 0:59:56] Adam: And so, when the dishes were washed, we all sat around the fire while Walt played Golden Slippers and all the other songs the boys could suggest on his moth organ.
[0:59:57 – 0:59:58] Erik: Golden slippers, huh?
[0:59:59 – 1:00:04] Adam: Is this the hot track at the time?
[1:00:04 – 1:00:06] Adam: Yeah, this is the top of the chops.
[1:00:07 – 1:00:09] Adam: Top of the chops.
[1:00:09 – 1:00:10] Erik: Chop of the chops.
[1:00:10 – 1:00:14] Adam: This is the number one hit in all of the jukebox.
[1:00:14 – 1:00:15] Erik: Golden slippers.
[1:00:15 – 1:00:16] Adam: Golden slippers.
[1:00:16 – 1:00:21] Adam: Do you think you can find a chiptunes version of golden slippers to end this episode?
[1:00:21 – 1:00:22] Erik: Oh, I’m sure I can.
[1:00:22 – 1:00:23] Adam: That’d be great, actually.
[1:00:23 – 1:00:24] Adam: That would be really special.
[1:00:26 – 1:00:28] Erik: Well, that sounds like a very lovely scene.
[1:00:28 – 1:00:36] Adam: So I think around Big Stone Lake was where they made the high-to-land portage up to the Red River, obviously, because now we’re in the Red River.
[1:00:36 – 1:00:37] Adam: Now we’re flowing north.
[1:00:37 – 1:00:37] Adam: The famous mud.
[1:00:39 – 1:00:40] Adam: And, yeah.
[1:00:40 – 1:00:42] Erik: With its famous mud.
[1:00:42 – 1:00:42] Adam: The famous mud.
[1:00:42 – 1:00:44] Erik: We read all about the mud.
[1:00:44 – 1:00:46] Adam: And we want to know more.
[1:00:46 – 1:00:56] Adam: I’m going to do one more passage from July 17th, and I think that might be where we’re going to have to leave it here.
[1:00:56 – 1:00:57] Erik: Perfect.
[1:00:58 – 1:00:59] Erik: Mitchum is calling.
[1:00:59 – 1:01:01] Adam: Mitchum needs to be discussed.
[1:01:02 – 1:01:03] Erik: And dispatched, like Alice.
[1:01:06 – 1:01:07] Erik: Spoiler, sorry.
[1:01:07 – 1:01:09] Erik: Everybody’s still waiting to see the 1962 Cape Fear.
[1:01:09 – 1:01:10] Erik: Alice.
[1:01:14 – 1:01:14] Adam: All right.
[1:01:15 – 1:01:16] Adam: July 17th.
[1:01:17 – 1:01:20] Adam: One month on the trail and 700 miles gone by.
[1:01:20 – 1:01:27] Adam: We were five miles from Fargo, North Dakota, the largest city we would visit, with the exception of Winnipeg.
[1:01:27 – 1:01:35] Adam: We prepared for the city by bathing in the cool, clean stream, which now had taken on a new character because it was backed up from a dam at Fargo.
[1:01:36 – 1:01:39] Adam: In a downpour of rain, we entered Fargo.
[1:01:39 – 1:01:44] Adam: Our first act was the purchasing of another paddle, a five-foot blade, wide and heavy.
[1:01:44 – 1:01:50] Adam: As protection against possible splintering, we had it reinforced with a strip of heavy copper over the end.
[1:01:50 – 1:01:52] Erik: Yes, gotta get that thing dipped in copper.
[1:01:52 – 1:01:52] Adam: Dip it.
[1:01:54 – 1:01:56] Adam: Now each of us had an excellent, durable paddle.
[1:01:57 – 1:01:59] Adam: An encouraging letter from the star awaited us.
[1:01:59 – 1:02:03] Adam: That night, we stayed at the home of relatives and slept between sheets.
[1:02:04 – 1:02:07] Adam: It was so soothing, we refused to wake until noon.
[1:02:08 – 1:02:08] Adam: And the food.
[1:02:09 – 1:02:12] Adam: I’m afraid the grocery bills took a decided leap when Walt and I were there.
[1:02:13 – 1:02:15] Adam: Everyone seemed astounded at our appetites.
[1:02:15 – 1:02:19] Adam: For breakfast, we consumed, each of us, 20 pancakes.
[1:02:19 – 1:02:19] Adam: Wow.
[1:02:20 – 1:02:21] Adam: That’s gotta be a new record.
[1:02:22 – 1:02:47] Adam: do you think it sounds like these two boys could have done the pancake challenge at trail center yeah i mean they had 20 small pancakes that’s probably equivalent to three manhole size cover pancakes it was an unforgivable thing to do considering the fact that we were guests but anything less would have been an insult to our stomachs geez wow before starting out again we had our first haircuts in a month we had it done in a barber college in order to save money
[1:02:47 – 1:02:48] Adam: Wow.
[1:02:48 – 1:02:49] Erik: Moral.
[1:02:49 – 1:02:50] Erik: Add it to the rations list.
[1:02:50 – 1:02:53] Adam: Don’t have your hair cut in barber colleges.
[1:02:53 – 1:02:59] Adam: But even if we did look like Tom Sawyer after Aunt Polly’s bowl-over-the-head treatment, it didn’t bother us much.
[1:03:00 – 1:03:02] Adam: We said goodbye to all of our kind hosts.
[1:03:02 – 1:03:05] Adam: The boat was loaded down with cookies, fruit, jam, even cake.
[1:03:06 – 1:03:08] Adam: Everything a canoeist is not supposed to eat.
[1:03:09 – 1:03:14] Adam: The next morning, we were back in town after a sad experience.
[1:03:14 – 1:03:19] Adam: Several days before, a fly had bitten Walt on the lower part of his right thumb.
[1:03:19 – 1:03:27] Adam: Constant rubbing against the paddle had irritated the sore, and that night, six miles north of Fargo, Walt decided he must do something for it.
[1:03:28 – 1:03:28] Erik: Oh, no.
[1:03:29 – 1:03:31] Erik: Did he get an infected fly bite?
[1:03:31 – 1:03:33] Adam: He got an infected fly bit and thumb.
[1:03:33 – 1:03:34] Adam: Gross.
[1:03:37 – 1:03:38] Adam: I’ll leave you with this.
[1:03:38 – 1:03:39] Adam: This is not from the book.
[1:03:39 – 1:03:42] Adam: I’m just going to summarize the next passage, and then I think we’ll call it good.
[1:03:43 – 1:03:46] Adam: They were delayed 11 days in Fargo with trench thumb for poor Walt.
[1:03:47 – 1:03:47] Adam: Trench thumb?
[1:03:47 – 1:03:51] Adam: This is when I first started realizing that Eric was referring to himself as Arnold.
[1:03:53 – 1:04:03] Adam: They got into Fargo on July 17th, and the 1st of August was at hand when they began to progress northward again as the nights began to be chilly.
[1:04:04 – 1:04:04] Erik: Oh, God.
[1:04:05 – 1:04:06] Erik: I want to know more about this.
[1:04:06 – 1:04:09] Adam: For two weeks of the 14 weeks, they were just stuck in Fargo with trench thumb.
[1:04:10 – 1:04:11] Adam: Fly bite.
[1:04:11 – 1:04:12] Adam: Fly bite.
[1:04:12 – 1:04:12] Adam: Yikes.
[1:04:12 – 1:04:13] Erik: Gross.
[1:04:13 – 1:04:13] Erik: I know.
[1:04:15 – 1:04:15] Erik: Yeah, I guess.
[1:04:15 – 1:04:18] Erik: And then it just kept wearing away from the paddle.
[1:04:18 – 1:04:18] Erik: I don’t know.
[1:04:18 – 1:04:19] Erik: I’m still…
[1:04:19 – 1:04:20] Adam: I blame the copper tips.
[1:04:20 – 1:04:25] Erik: No, but they got a taste for the sugary sweet pancakes so that they were just like, well…
[1:04:25 – 1:04:27] Adam: They’re sleeping between sheets.
[1:04:27 – 1:04:28] Adam: Yeah, sleeping between sheets.
[1:04:28 – 1:04:28] Adam: You know what?
[1:04:28 – 1:04:29] Adam: My thumb kind of hurts.
[1:04:29 – 1:04:30] Adam: Eating pancakes and cakes.
[1:04:30 – 1:04:33] Adam: We should probably chill for two weeks.
[1:04:33 – 1:04:33] Erik: Yeah.
[1:04:33 – 1:04:34] Erik: I don’t know.
[1:04:34 – 1:04:34] Erik: It’s not better.
[1:04:34 – 1:04:37] Erik: I don’t even see the bite anymore, Walter.
[1:04:37 – 1:04:38] Adam: Ow!
[1:04:38 – 1:04:39] Erik: You sure it’s not…
[1:04:39 – 1:04:40] Erik: I think it’s still pussing.
[1:04:41 – 1:04:42] Adam: No.
[1:04:42 – 1:04:45] Adam: Spray a little soother on there, why don’t you?
[1:04:45 – 1:04:46] Erik: Yeah.
[1:04:46 – 1:04:47] Erik: No, I mean…
[1:04:48 – 1:04:50] Erik: I think this adventure can be had.
[1:04:52 – 1:04:55] Adam: I mean, I’m going to say they almost didn’t make it before ice up.
[1:04:56 – 1:05:02] Adam: And the fact that they sat in Fargo for two weeks, and then as you’ll see next week, they took their time in Winnipeg too.
[1:05:03 – 1:05:07] Adam: They didn’t seem like they didn’t have enough urgency at all.
[1:05:08 – 1:05:11] Adam: But, you know, this is their first canoe trip.
[1:05:11 – 1:05:18] Adam: How many people can say that their first canoe trip involved 14 weeks of paddling and a small ham and a sack of potatoes?
[1:05:18 – 1:05:20] Erik: It’s an aggressive start for a first time trip.
[1:05:20 – 1:05:21] Erik: That’s for sure.
[1:05:21 – 1:05:23] Adam: They’re not just trying it out.
[1:05:23 – 1:05:29] Adam: They just literally bought a canoe and a bunch of provisions and just set sail.
[1:05:30 – 1:05:30] Adam: Pretty impressive.
[1:05:31 – 1:05:33] Erik: Did they talk about how they get back at the end?
[1:05:33 – 1:05:34] Adam: They do a little bit.
[1:05:35 – 1:05:45] Adam: We will discuss that in next week’s episode as far as how they get home, how they end up making it, and all the other adventures they have along the way.
[1:05:46 – 1:05:53] Adam: As they get farther north, they sort of get into their groove and seem to be more skilled paddlers of the wilderness.
[1:05:54 – 1:05:57] Adam: But the whole thing was a learning experience for them.
[1:05:57 – 1:05:58] Adam: It’s amazing they actually made it.
[1:05:59 – 1:06:01] Erik: Yeah, sometimes that’s just the way you have to do it.
[1:06:01 – 1:06:05] Adam: I’d have to say this is probably considered one of the classic canoeing books.
[1:06:05 – 1:06:10] Adam: So I’m really happy that I finally got to read it and that we get to talk about it on the show.
[1:06:11 – 1:06:15] Adam: And hopefully somebody out there listens to this and decides that, yeah, I like canoeing.
[1:06:16 – 1:06:17] Adam: I like turtles.
[1:06:17 – 1:06:20] Erik: I like turtles, I like canoeing, and these guys nailed it.
[1:06:20 – 1:06:25] Erik: My all-time favorite classic, one-hit wonder of all time, Golden Slippers.
[1:06:25 – 1:06:27] Adam: Golden Slippers on the mouth organ?
[1:06:27 – 1:06:30] Adam: I mean, how much, what else do you need?
[1:06:30 – 1:06:32] Adam: Yeah, these guys are renaissance, man.
[1:06:33 – 1:06:39] Adam: I will say, next week, as a little teaser, we get to visit the famous Winnipeg Canoe Club.
[1:06:39 – 1:06:40] Adam: Oh, all right.
[1:06:40 – 1:06:45] Adam: And, you know, paddling on Lake Winnipeg, which is about the size of a Great Lake.
[1:06:45 – 1:06:45] Adam: Yeah.
[1:06:45 – 1:06:50] Adam: And then taking some rivers, which no white man has ever paddled.
[1:06:51 – 1:06:54] Adam: And we might actually meet some Cree at some point here.
[1:06:54 – 1:06:57] Erik: I was going to say, the title of the book, I feel like, is still eluding me.
[1:06:57 – 1:07:00] Erik: I don’t actually now think I’ve read this book.
[1:07:01 – 1:07:01] Adam: Really?
[1:07:01 – 1:07:01] Adam: Yeah.
[1:07:01 – 1:07:05] Adam: They do meet some Cree, which are their friends.
[1:07:05 – 1:07:07] Erik: I would remember a horrible fly bite.
[1:07:08 – 1:07:08] Adam: Yeah.
[1:07:09 – 1:07:12] Adam: Waylaid in Fargo with a flea-bitten hand.
[1:07:12 – 1:07:13] Erik: Yeah.
[1:07:13 – 1:07:14] Adam: My thumb.
[1:07:14 – 1:07:16] Adam: Oh, Arnold, my thumb.
[1:07:16 – 1:07:17] Adam: Surely we have to stay.
[1:07:18 – 1:07:19] Erik: Surely we have to stay.
[1:07:19 – 1:07:20] Erik: Eat more pancakes.
[1:07:20 – 1:07:21] Erik: What about those fresh cakes?
[1:07:22 – 1:07:24] Adam: All right, we’ll leave her there.
[1:07:24 – 1:07:27] Adam: Thank you for joining me here tonight in the shed, Eric.
[1:07:28 – 1:07:32] Adam: Thank you to Nate and Melissa for the Bug Soother Ale.
[1:07:32 – 1:07:33] Adam: It was delicious.
[1:07:33 – 1:07:39] Adam: I’m pleasantly surprised, and I can’t wait to crack into the second one and talk about Cape Fear.
[1:07:39 – 1:07:43] Erik: Yeah, we’ll probably crack another one up in the mezzanine here, eh?
[1:07:43 – 1:07:43] Adam: There we go.
[1:07:43 – 1:07:45] Adam: All right.
[1:07:45 – 1:07:51] Adam: For Tumble Home, Boundary Waters Podcast, it’s been a pleasure talking about paddling with our copper-tipped paddles.
[1:07:51 – 1:07:51] Adam: Bye.
[1:07:52 – 1:07:57] Adam: We will conclude this journey at Hudson’s Bay next week.
[1:07:57 – 1:07:59] Adam: Until then, happy paddling!