266: Phenomenal Seas

Episode Transcript

[0:00:15 – 0:00:16] UNKNOWN: Thank you.
[0:00:34 – 0:00:41] Adam: Welcome to Tumble Home, a proud independent podcast about the Boundary Waters.
[0:00:41 – 0:00:42] Adam: My name is Adam.
[0:00:42 – 0:00:45] Adam: Joining me here in the shed in this beautiful afternoon is my dear friend, Eric.
[0:00:46 – 0:00:46] Erik: Hello, Eric.
[0:00:46 – 0:00:47] Erik: Hello.
[0:00:47 – 0:00:48] Erik: Buenas tardes.
[0:00:48 – 0:00:49] Erik: Oh, my.
[0:00:49 – 0:00:50] Adam: Que onda?
[0:00:51 – 0:00:55] Adam: Did I see white chocolate just came out this week 20 years ago or something?
[0:00:56 – 0:00:57] Adam: Buenos tardes, amigos.
[0:00:58 – 0:00:58] Adam: Yeah, I don’t know.
[0:00:58 – 0:01:00] Adam: That’s not white chocolate, is it, though?
[0:01:00 – 0:01:00] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:01:00 – 0:01:01] Erik: What’s the white chocolate?
[0:01:02 – 0:01:03] Erik: Ween’s album?
[0:01:03 – 0:01:04] Erik: Yeah.
[0:01:04 – 0:01:07] Erik: That’s white pepper, and then there’s chocolate and cheese.
[0:01:09 – 0:01:13] Adam: Buenos tardes, white pepper and cheese.
[0:01:13 – 0:01:15] Adam: Well, this is episode 266.
[0:01:15 – 0:01:19] Adam: Is there any chiptune ween out there?
[0:01:19 – 0:01:21] Adam: Have you ever used ween for an outro?
[0:01:21 – 0:01:25] Erik: I was thinking I probably need to end with some cayon de huero.
[0:01:26 – 0:01:27] Erik: Ah, de huero.
[0:01:27 – 0:01:28] Erik: Some back, maybe.
[0:01:28 – 0:01:30] Erik: You know what cayon de means, right?
[0:01:31 – 0:01:31] Adam: No, what does it mean?
[0:01:33 – 0:01:35] Erik: So onda is wave in Spanish.
[0:01:35 – 0:01:35] Erik: Uh-huh.
[0:01:36 – 0:01:38] Erik: And so it’s essentially like asking somebody…
[0:01:39 – 0:01:39] Erik: It’s pretty familiar.
[0:01:40 – 0:01:41] Erik: It’s like asking somebody, like, what’s the vibe?
[0:01:42 – 0:01:44] Erik: Like the wave of the… Que onda, yeah.
[0:01:44 – 0:01:44] Erik: Que onda.
[0:01:45 – 0:01:45] Adam: Okay.
[0:01:46 – 0:01:55] Erik: Yeah, so… And considering what most of our conversation on continuing on with ghoulie facts… Yeah, ghoulie.
[0:01:55 – 0:01:56] Erik: …is going to be…
[0:01:57 – 0:02:00] Erik: He gets real into waves and tides, so if you’re not into that…
[0:02:01 – 0:02:05] Adam: I mean, I’m still on the edge of my seat over the splash test.
[0:02:06 – 0:02:10] Erik: The old Understanding Splashes by A.M. Worthington.
[0:02:11 – 0:02:15] Adam: I’ve been obsessed with splashes all week, waiting for more information.
[0:02:15 – 0:02:16] Adam: I don’t even have to wait a week.
[0:02:16 – 0:02:18] Adam: It’s early in the week.
[0:02:18 – 0:02:21] Erik: It is an early record and early in the day.
[0:02:21 – 0:02:43] Adam: early in the day daytime recording is going to be much better for me right now um just personally and for my family so unfortunately i do very little tumble home after dark somehow even in october yeah but uh yeah i’m i’m pretty excited to find out more about the splashes and the waves it’s early in the week though because we’re did uh we’re doing our fantasy hockey draft tonight
[0:02:43 – 0:02:44] Erik: Very exciting.
[0:02:44 – 0:02:45] Erik: It’s a special time of year.
[0:02:46 – 0:02:50] Erik: Anybody that’s involved in fantasy sports knows the…
[0:02:50 – 0:02:51] Erik: The draft.
[0:02:51 – 0:02:54] Erik: It’s the only thing that can rival some of the excitements of youth.
[0:02:54 – 0:02:55] Erik: You know, those old…
[0:02:59 – 0:03:01] Erik: Halcyonic, is that a term?
[0:03:01 – 0:03:08] Erik: Halcyon days of your, as a youth, excited for Christmases and birthdays and all these things.
[0:03:08 – 0:03:10] Adam: I thought that was pronounced halikane.
[0:03:10 – 0:03:13] Erik: Halikane, yeah.
[0:03:13 – 0:03:15] Erik: Those days, they kind of just start fading.
[0:03:15 – 0:03:18] Erik: Those excitement levels, you don’t really get them.
[0:03:19 – 0:03:22] Erik: They get worn down like so many beaches in our heads.
[0:03:23 – 0:03:25] Erik: The mental aspect of getting excited for things.
[0:03:25 – 0:03:27] Adam: It’s a different kind of water erosion.
[0:03:27 – 0:03:44] Erik: Yeah, and I feel like the excitement for what could be, you know, whether that is real sport, real things to look forward to, or the fantasy, the fantastical variety, which is the ones we will be getting ourselves into later tonight.
[0:03:44 – 0:03:45] Erik: Always very exciting.
[0:03:45 – 0:03:48] Adam: We’re back two years off from fantasy hockey.
[0:03:48 – 0:03:48] Erik: Mm-hmm.
[0:03:49 – 0:03:54] Adam: But we’re back this winter, and puck drops on Fridays, so we had to get the draft in on Wednesday here.
[0:03:55 – 0:03:58] Adam: And so, yeah, we figured, well, we may as well.
[0:03:58 – 0:03:59] Adam: We’re already here in the shed.
[0:03:59 – 0:04:00] Adam: Let’s record now.
[0:04:00 – 0:04:02] Adam: I want to know more about the splashes.
[0:04:02 – 0:04:05] Erik: Yeah, we just set the draft lineup order.
[0:04:05 – 0:04:07] Erik: We didn’t necessarily think we were going to do that.
[0:04:07 – 0:04:09] Erik: We thought we were going to let the computers choose.
[0:04:09 – 0:04:15] Adam: Yeah, I woke up and I got a little wild hair up my ass and I was like, let’s just do it.
[0:04:15 – 0:04:20] Adam: I figured out how to log into my Yahoo on the old laptop and then you can edit the draft order.
[0:04:20 – 0:04:23] Adam: Why not have a little fun and pick the names out of the chalice?
[0:04:23 – 0:04:25] Erik: Yeah, I was kind of surprised.
[0:04:25 – 0:04:26] Erik: You are the new commissioner now.
[0:04:26 – 0:04:34] Erik: I’ve relinquished my duties as they were as previous commissioner and founder, former commissioner.
[0:04:35 – 0:04:36] Adam: You’re still a co-commissioner, though.
[0:04:36 – 0:04:39] Adam: I sent you the link.
[0:04:39 – 0:04:43] Adam: You have administrative powers if needed in case something happens to me.
[0:04:44 – 0:04:45] Erik: Sure, in case something happens to you.
[0:04:45 – 0:04:47] Adam: I’ve designated you as co-commish.
[0:04:47 – 0:04:49] Erik: Take my roles back.
[0:04:49 – 0:04:52] Erik: I’m just a shadow commissioner at this point.
[0:04:52 – 0:04:54] Adam: You had some input in the scoring settings.
[0:04:54 – 0:04:57] Adam: I was trying to remember how we had it set up a couple years back.
[0:04:57 – 0:04:59] Adam: We juiced up the hits and blocks a little.
[0:04:59 – 0:05:01] Adam: We got rid of the plus minus, obviously.
[0:05:01 – 0:05:07] Erik: Getting a little, some may say, too sexy with some of the stats back in the day.
[0:05:07 – 0:05:08] Erik: I don’t think so.
[0:05:08 – 0:05:11] Adam: I think your settings were perfect because I’ve won four of these now.
[0:05:11 – 0:05:17] Adam: The Eagle Cups bad boy are sitting here on the desk with us, and I intend to win my fifth this year.
[0:05:17 – 0:05:26] Adam: But we’re going back to weekly lineups and points league settings, so it should be less intense on the day-to-day front.
[0:05:27 – 0:05:28] Erik: Yeah, it’s a pretty casual league this year.
[0:05:28 – 0:05:29] Erik: There’s no money involved.
[0:05:29 – 0:05:30] Erik: It’s just for fun.
[0:05:30 – 0:05:32] Adam: We got 10 players this year, though.
[0:05:32 – 0:05:32] Adam: That’s pretty cool.
[0:05:33 – 0:05:33] Erik: Yeah, we did.
[0:05:34 – 0:05:34] Erik: We do.
[0:05:34 – 0:05:36] Adam: So, yeah, you got the third pick.
[0:05:36 – 0:05:37] Adam: Third.
[0:05:37 – 0:05:38] Adam: Who are you going to take?
[0:05:38 – 0:05:41] Adam: This is going to come out after the episode.
[0:05:42 – 0:05:43] Adam: This episode will come out after the draft.
[0:05:43 – 0:05:45] Adam: So what’s your prediction for your third pick?
[0:05:45 – 0:05:46] Adam: Who are you going to take?
[0:05:46 – 0:06:06] Adam: there uh yeah i don’t know i mean probably one of the top three austin matthews connor mcdavid or what uh mckinnon mckinnon you get mckinnon or i bet you get matthews there be nice sure on the leafs game this year as well try and get as many uh leafs and uh red wings players as we can yeah
[0:06:07 – 0:06:08] Erik: I’ve said too much.
[0:06:08 – 0:06:10] Erik: You’ve already said too much.
[0:06:10 – 0:06:11] Adam: I got the seventh pick.
[0:06:11 – 0:06:13] Adam: I don’t know who’s going to be available there.
[0:06:13 – 0:06:15] Erik: Probably all the good players to be gone by then.
[0:06:15 – 0:06:16] Adam: Yeah, I don’t know.
[0:06:16 – 0:06:18] Adam: Maybe I’d get Kucherov.
[0:06:18 – 0:06:20] Adam: I had him one year, and I did pretty well with him.
[0:06:21 – 0:06:21] Adam: I like him.
[0:06:22 – 0:06:23] Adam: Yeah, he’s still around.
[0:06:23 – 0:06:24] Adam: Maybe Cale McCarr.
[0:06:25 – 0:06:27] Adam: Go with the first defender off the board at seven.
[0:06:27 – 0:06:28] Adam: Hits and blocks are juiced up.
[0:06:28 – 0:06:29] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:06:29 – 0:06:33] Adam: He’s not really a hits and blocks kind of defender, but there’s a point for power play points too.
[0:06:34 – 0:06:34] Adam: Yeah.
[0:06:34 – 0:06:35] Adam: Got to take that into consideration.
[0:06:35 – 0:06:36] Erik: He’s got that going for him.
[0:06:37 – 0:07:03] Adam: uh i’m ready to splash uh some waves on this whistle poking at this box with a nail over here meticulously picking away at that nicely packed art supply supply box this is the last uh box that this is the last donation that came in in july uh came in july 30th this uh art box is what it’s labeled on from derrick and keegan to adam and eric donated in the past
[0:07:03 – 0:07:06] Adam: Well, this one’s actually dated itself, 7-24-24.
[0:07:06 – 0:07:06] Adam: Oh, my.
[0:07:08 – 0:07:09] Adam: Maybe I got it to the tumble shed by the 30th.
[0:07:10 – 0:07:14] Erik: I’m going to crack into some onset juice while you’re opening up that box.
[0:07:14 – 0:07:16] Adam: How many milligrams are you aiming for today, sir?
[0:07:16 – 0:07:18] Erik: Total or how many are in this can?
[0:07:18 – 0:07:20] Adam: Accumulative.
[0:07:20 – 0:07:22] Adam: What’s the NOAA have to say about your onset right now?
[0:07:22 – 0:07:25] Erik: We’re going to get to some NOAA information today.
[0:07:25 – 0:07:27] Erik: This is a 10 milligram.
[0:07:28 – 0:07:29] Erik: It’s another ember.
[0:07:29 – 0:07:30] Erik: It’s my go-to.
[0:07:30 – 0:07:32] Erik: It’s the only reason I go in the liquor store anymore.
[0:07:32 – 0:07:33] Adam: They got the goodies.
[0:07:34 – 0:07:34] Adam: TBH.
[0:07:34 – 0:07:35] Adam: This is very well-
[0:07:39 – 0:07:40] Adam: Okay, we got a real name here.
[0:07:40 – 0:07:41] Adam: We’re not going to doxate.
[0:07:41 – 0:07:41] Adam: Oh, boy.
[0:07:41 – 0:07:43] Adam: Is that some Coghlan’s goodies?
[0:07:43 – 0:07:46] Erik: We got a Coghlan’s 12 egg holder.
[0:07:46 – 0:07:48] Erik: Oh, big egg crackers.
[0:07:49 – 0:07:49] Erik: Jesus.
[0:07:49 – 0:07:50] Erik: This thing looks like it just…
[0:07:50 – 0:07:51] Adam: It’s well-packed.
[0:07:51 – 0:07:57] Adam: There’s a cardboard rumpled up in here to keep everything from Jocelyn.
[0:07:58 – 0:07:59] Erik: Made in Canada.
[0:08:01 – 0:08:02] Erik: In Winnipeg, yes.
[0:08:03 – 0:08:04] Adam: I got my Winnipeg sweatshirt on.
[0:08:05 – 0:08:07] Adam: We got a note in here, Eric.
[0:08:07 – 0:08:08] Adam: Enjoy paddling.
[0:08:08 – 0:08:11] Adam: Derek and Keegan from STL.
[0:08:12 – 0:08:16] Adam: That’s Supreme Time Low, not St. Louis.
[0:08:17 – 0:08:18] Erik: Yes, Winnipeg, Canada.
[0:08:19 – 0:08:24] Erik: But if you do have European inquiries, you need to contact Coghlan’s LTD, P.O.
[0:08:24 – 0:08:26] Erik: Box 132, Wakefield, England.
[0:08:26 – 0:08:27] Adam: England?
[0:08:27 – 0:08:28] Adam: England.
[0:08:28 – 0:08:29] Adam: The hell?
[0:08:30 – 0:08:32] Adam: They’re not in the World Junior Hockey Championships.
[0:08:33 – 0:08:35] Adam: He’s rattling the egg hole.
[0:08:35 – 0:08:35] Adam: Did you guys hear that?
[0:08:36 – 0:08:39] Adam: Got some good thermoplastic audio going on here in the shed.
[0:08:41 – 0:09:05] Adam: uh this is uh the note we are headed to fish on big sag and camp at trails end bwca adjacent keep up the great work you guys are awesome and inspiring and uh we love you wow hugs and kisses thank you derek xo what inspiring wow oh a six pack got all six are here of
[0:09:06 – 0:09:10] Adam: Log Boat Brewing Company Bobber Missouri Lager.
[0:09:10 – 0:09:12] Adam: It says keep wet?
[0:09:12 – 0:09:13] Adam: No, hold on.
[0:09:14 – 0:09:15] Adam: No, it says keep your paddle wet.
[0:09:15 – 0:09:17] Adam: Yeah, no, I think I will keep it wet.
[0:09:17 – 0:09:18] Adam: Sure.
[0:09:19 – 0:09:20] Adam: I’ll keep it wet.
[0:09:21 – 0:09:22] Adam: I’m going to assume it’s from STL.
[0:09:22 – 0:09:24] Adam: It’s made from Missouri, it says at least.
[0:09:25 – 0:09:26] Adam: Log Boat.
[0:09:26 – 0:09:27] Adam: Log Boat.
[0:09:27 – 0:09:32] Adam: Is that what Huckleberry Finn rode down the Big Muddy?
[0:09:33 – 0:09:35] Erik: It was more of a log raft, I’d say.
[0:09:36 – 0:09:36] Adam: Log boat.
[0:09:37 – 0:09:38] Adam: Well, we like boats here on the show.
[0:09:39 – 0:09:40] Erik: We’re pro-boat.
[0:09:40 – 0:09:42] Adam: Pro-boat all day, every day.
[0:09:42 – 0:09:43] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:09:44 – 0:09:46] Erik: I don’t know if I’ve had this thought really.
[0:09:46 – 0:09:46] Erik: There’s a catfish.
[0:09:47 – 0:09:48] Erik: There’s a catfish.
[0:09:51 – 0:09:58] Erik: We do talk about doing a redux on the Clearwater Lake episodes.
[0:09:58 – 0:09:59] Erik: We’ve talked about it a few times, yeah.
[0:09:59 – 0:10:04] Erik: Since they’re five years old and we were very early on in the stages of… Columbia, Missouri.
[0:10:04 – 0:10:06] Erik: Pretty much experts at what we’re doing now.
[0:10:06 – 0:10:07] Erik: So, you know.
[0:10:07 – 0:10:08] Adam: Obviously.
[0:10:08 – 0:10:09] Adam: That’s not the quality.
[0:10:09 – 0:10:20] Erik: But I feel like one that we should and could, I don’t know, have we ever considered or redone the boat show episode where we let people talk about their boats?
[0:10:20 – 0:10:22] Adam: Oh, I mean, everybody wants to talk about their boats.
[0:10:22 – 0:10:24] Adam: I feel like that was… Somebody was just posting…
[0:10:24 – 0:10:32] Adam: I think Admiral Gary was just posting refurbishment pictures after the Hog Creek Adventure pictures on the internet this week.
[0:10:32 – 0:10:32] Erik: Yeah.
[0:10:32 – 0:10:34] Adam: Yeah, it’s not just your boat, too.
[0:10:34 – 0:10:37] Adam: It’s like everybody’s always constantly working and tinkering on their boats.
[0:10:37 – 0:10:37] Erik: Yeah.
[0:10:38 – 0:10:39] Adam: Be they made of log or Kevlar.
[0:10:40 – 0:10:41] Erik: I really want to talk about my flare.
[0:10:41 – 0:10:42] Adam: Yeah.
[0:10:42 – 0:10:42] UNKNOWN: Yeah.
[0:10:42 – 0:11:04] Erik: but we want you to talk about your we want you to express yourself eric don’t you want to express yourself yeah that’d be a fun uh doldrums of winter boats yeah boat show too yeah because i’m not going anywhere i don’t know if that’s been uh gleaned from uh the last month of uh us talking about our winter plans at all but uh yeah
[0:11:04 – 0:11:04] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:11:04 – 0:11:15] Erik: We’ll probably take maybe some time off, but there won’t be months of static on the old transmitter, as it were.
[0:11:15 – 0:11:20] Adam: Not going to have to listen to me talk about movies from 2000 this winter.
[0:11:20 – 0:11:20] Adam: Maybe you will.
[0:11:21 – 0:11:22] Adam: But we’ll do it together.
[0:11:22 – 0:11:22] Erik: Together.
[0:11:23 – 0:11:23] Erik: Together we will.
[0:11:24 – 0:11:25] Adam: We will.
[0:11:25 – 0:11:26] Adam: All right.
[0:11:26 – 0:11:29] Adam: Derek and Keegan, thank you for the laggers.
[0:11:30 – 0:11:31] Adam: I’m cracking one right now.
[0:11:31 – 0:11:33] Adam: I’m going to wet this whistle.
[0:11:33 – 0:11:34] Adam: You know what I’m saying?
[0:11:35 – 0:11:39] Adam: They don’t even have whistles on these boats anymore these days.
[0:11:39 – 0:11:39] Erik: Yeah.
[0:11:40 – 0:11:48] Erik: Yeah, we are going to continue with some factoids and tidbits from the How to Read Water book by Tristan Gooley.
[0:11:49 – 0:11:52] Erik: He’s really into sailing, it turns out.
[0:11:52 – 0:11:53] Erik: The book is…
[0:11:53 – 0:11:54] Erik: It’s more about wind.
[0:11:54 – 0:11:59] Erik: It’s a lot about wind, a lot about currents and beaches and tides.
[0:11:59 – 0:12:00] Erik: We’ll get into all that.
[0:12:00 – 0:12:01] Adam: I love it.
[0:12:01 – 0:12:01] Adam: Yes.
[0:12:02 – 0:12:03] Adam: Or maybe…
[0:12:04 – 0:12:04] Adam: Thank you, gentlemen.
[0:12:04 – 0:12:05] Adam: Maybe we won’t.
[0:12:05 – 0:12:06] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:12:06 – 0:12:07] Adam: Did you catch any big fish on SAG?
[0:12:08 – 0:12:09] Erik: I’m sure they did.
[0:12:09 – 0:12:12] Adam: Did you hear about the Yahoos lighting Horseshoe Island on fire?
[0:12:14 – 0:12:14] Erik: No.
[0:12:14 – 0:12:15] Erik: Yahoos?
[0:12:15 – 0:12:20] Adam: Yeah, apparently some Yahoos got arrested up on SAG.
[0:12:20 – 0:12:20] Adam: They got arrested?
[0:12:21 – 0:12:22] Adam: They got apprehended.
[0:12:22 – 0:12:27] Adam: I don’t know if they’ve been formally charged in court yet, but they are going to be.
[0:12:27 – 0:12:27] Adam: Allegedly.
[0:12:28 – 0:12:30] Adam: Allegedly starting fires.
[0:12:30 – 0:12:30] Adam: On purpose?
[0:12:30 – 0:12:32] Adam: On purpose all over Horseshoe Island.
[0:12:33 – 0:12:33] Erik: What?
[0:12:33 – 0:12:33] Adam: Yeah.
[0:12:34 – 0:12:35] Erik: No, I didn’t hear about this.
[0:12:35 – 0:12:38] Adam: And like boating and I don’t know, they’re breaking all sorts of laws.
[0:12:39 – 0:12:40] Adam: I don’t want to get into it too much.
[0:12:40 – 0:12:44] Adam: People out there, it was posted on the Discord, I thought, and on the subreddit.
[0:12:44 – 0:12:46] Erik: Well, maybe I should get on that Discord one of these days.
[0:12:46 – 0:12:47] Adam: I thought it was on the subreddit too, though.
[0:12:47 – 0:12:48] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:12:48 – 0:12:48] Adam: It’s out there.
[0:12:49 – 0:12:52] Adam: Yeah, they were apprehended starting fires.
[0:12:52 – 0:12:58] Adam: The fire on Daniels was probably lightning striked, but then there was another one over by Woods.
[0:12:59 – 0:13:07] Erik: It’s the only thing that’s really keeping the Woods from catching on fire immediately is there’s just been no lightning.
[0:13:08 – 0:13:09] Erik: Honestly, I am craving…
[0:13:11 – 0:13:19] Erik: Even this last like four days of like some like subtle changes in the weather where it’s not 77 and sunny and just dead calm has been very nice.
[0:13:19 – 0:13:31] Erik: A little wind, some cooler temperatures, but I am really craving like some damn weather, like something besides just absolutely perfect.
[0:13:31 – 0:13:33] Erik: It gets kind of boring after a while.
[0:13:33 – 0:13:35] Adam: It sort of was raining the other night when I took the dog out.
[0:13:36 – 0:13:54] Adam: yeah like it barely like kind of like sprinkled a little bit nothing registered even in the weather station outside so i don’t know what kind of rain that was yeah just enough to suggest rain yeah i uh quite windy the last couple days at least and actually we both are wearing hoodies today yeah mine’s bootleg merch hoodie and mine’s a winnipeg jets hoodie
[0:13:55 – 0:14:03] Erik: Your post from a few weeks ago where it got cold or whatever, and you sent me that graph of your weather station with the temp immediately prompted me.
[0:14:03 – 0:14:05] Erik: I was like, I need a weather station at my house.
[0:14:05 – 0:14:06] Erik: Yeah, you got one?
[0:14:06 – 0:14:07] Erik: I do, yes.
[0:14:07 – 0:14:07] Erik: All right.
[0:14:07 – 0:14:09] Erik: Dueling weather stations.
[0:14:09 – 0:14:09] Erik: Yeah.
[0:14:10 – 0:14:12] Erik: I love that you can just pull it up when you’re not at home.
[0:14:12 – 0:14:13] Erik: Yeah, I love that.
[0:14:13 – 0:14:15] Adam: I mean, I got the little display in the house.
[0:14:16 – 0:14:21] Adam: I wake up at 2.33 in the morning every day and go out and check the log out there.
[0:14:21 – 0:14:23] Adam: Okay, it’s down to 34 right now.
[0:14:23 – 0:14:25] Adam: It’s pretty crisp.
[0:14:25 – 0:14:26] Adam: Any rainfall overnight?
[0:14:26 – 0:14:26] Adam: None.
[0:14:27 – 0:14:29] Adam: But it will register eventually.
[0:14:29 – 0:14:31] Adam: It won’t record snowfall, but…
[0:14:31 – 0:14:32] Adam: Yeah, I don’t know.
[0:14:32 – 0:14:32] Adam: His barometer.
[0:14:32 – 0:14:34] Adam: Yeah, and it talks to the phone.
[0:14:34 – 0:14:42] Adam: So, yeah, if you’re, like, away or if you’re just in bed and want to check the current temperature outside, you just pull up the phone.
[0:14:42 – 0:14:42] Erik: It’s cool as hell.
[0:14:42 – 0:14:47] Erik: Because that was the one thing I was like, well, maybe I’ll just keep track of the weather because I have, like, the little… Yeah.
[0:14:47 – 0:14:52] Erik: the one little basic thing that you hang on the post of your deck with the tiny little display.
[0:14:52 – 0:14:55] Erik: But as soon as you pull the batteries out, all the information resets.
[0:14:55 – 0:14:58] Erik: And I was like, maybe I’ll keep track of the temperatures and do a log.
[0:14:58 – 0:15:04] Erik: And then I was like, well, I could just get a thing where it keeps track of it on its own because I love trends when it comes to that.
[0:15:04 – 0:15:06] Adam: I love looking at the graphs in the morning.
[0:15:07 – 0:15:07] Adam: Yeah.
[0:15:08 – 0:15:09] Erik: When did it get the coldest?
[0:15:09 – 0:15:09] Erik: Exactly.
[0:15:10 – 0:15:10] Adam: Yeah.
[0:15:10 – 0:15:11] Adam: No more guessing.
[0:15:11 – 0:15:12] Adam: Yeah.
[0:15:12 – 0:15:12] Adam: Yeah.
[0:15:12 – 0:15:13] Adam: Very fun.
[0:15:13 – 0:15:15] Adam: I’m going to give these…
[0:15:17 – 0:15:39] Adam: what are they log boat it’s log boat brewing these are bobber missouri lager misery lager these boys from misery uh it’s from columbia misery misery yeah i’m gonna give these uh whiskers how many whiskers on a cat i was gonna say you gotta go uh isn’t that uh where the uh mizzou tigers are from columbia
[0:15:40 – 0:15:42] Adam: Yeah, well, either Tigers or Catfish.
[0:15:42 – 0:15:44] Adam: I’m going to go eight out of eight.
[0:15:44 – 0:15:44] Adam: Whiskers?
[0:15:45 – 0:15:47] Adam: Whiskers.
[0:15:47 – 0:15:48] Erik: Perfect.
[0:15:48 – 0:15:49] Erik: Yeah.
[0:15:50 – 0:15:51] Adam: I’m going to love it.
[0:15:51 – 0:15:51] Adam: Nice.
[0:15:51 – 0:15:53] Adam: How many whiskers do you have to have?
[0:15:53 – 0:15:58] Adam: So we got two centers, two left wingers, three defenders, and two whiskers in goal.
[0:15:58 – 0:15:59] Erik: Eight whiskers.
[0:15:59 – 0:15:59] Erik: Yes.
[0:16:00 – 0:16:01] Adam: Huh?
[0:16:01 – 0:16:02] Erik: Mm-hmm.
[0:16:02 – 0:16:03] Erik: Yeah.
[0:16:03 – 0:16:04] Erik: So the…
[0:16:06 – 0:16:17] Erik: The amount of time spent in the workplace and the conversations that come out of it, it’s always, you know, to keep things interesting, specifically in a kitchen.
[0:16:18 – 0:16:18] Erik: Yeah.
[0:16:18 – 0:16:20] Erik: Can get a little weird sometimes.
[0:16:20 – 0:16:23] Erik: And there’s been some questions over the last, like, month.
[0:16:23 – 0:16:26] Erik: I was just thinking on the way over here about some of them.
[0:16:26 – 0:16:32] Erik: And I wanted to share one or two of them with you just to see if you had any thoughts.
[0:16:32 – 0:16:34] Erik: Sort of on the spot, obviously.
[0:16:34 – 0:16:35] Adam: All right.
[0:16:35 – 0:16:35] Adam: I’m ready.
[0:16:35 – 0:16:37] Erik: Nobody will judge you if you give a poor answer.
[0:16:37 – 0:16:40] Adam: I’m pretty confident.
[0:16:40 – 0:16:42] Adam: You are coming in confident?
[0:16:42 – 0:16:42] Adam: Okay.
[0:16:42 – 0:16:43] Erik: Okay.
[0:16:43 – 0:16:51] Erik: So the first one is if you never got tired and you didn’t have to worry about sleep, what would you do with that extra time?
[0:16:52 – 0:17:17] Adam: i guess i’d read more just read more yeah i don’t ever get to read right now i’m i am in the middle of a book actually and i’m making some progress but i had some extra time and especially if it’s in the middle of the night yeah i guess i’m assuming you have to bank that in the middle of the night when nothing else is going on yeah i don’t know when you already got the daytime you wouldn’t just pick up like another job nobody else is allowed these powers like you’re everybody else is sleeping
[0:17:17 – 0:17:35] Adam: i guess it yeah that’s a good point i don’t know if we ever got to the discussion of is it a superpower or is it just like across generalized like everybody’s just always awake i’m gonna assume i’m the only one up all night and don’t have to sleep ever again i’m just gonna read more i’ll be a human encyclopedia oh sure yeah that’s my new i’ll be i’ll try and read everything on wikipedia
[0:17:35 – 0:17:35] Erik: Yeah.
[0:17:35 – 0:17:40] Erik: My, for whatever reason, I was probably just trying, you know, you know, the edge Lord that I am.
[0:17:41 – 0:17:41] Erik: Oh no.
[0:17:41 – 0:17:44] Erik: I just, I told them that I would just commit more crime.
[0:17:44 – 0:17:44] Adam: Yeah.
[0:17:45 – 0:17:47] Adam: Crimes in the middle of the night too is a good time for crimes.
[0:17:47 – 0:17:47] Adam: The best time.
[0:17:47 – 0:17:50] Adam: You could read a lot of books on how to get away with crime.
[0:17:50 – 0:17:50] Erik: There you go.
[0:17:50 – 0:17:52] Erik: Start by the first four hours.
[0:17:53 – 0:17:55] Adam: Vigorously rubbing my hands together right now.
[0:17:55 – 0:17:55] Adam: Yes.
[0:17:55 – 0:17:56] Adam: Yes.
[0:17:56 – 0:17:57] Erik: Crime for dummy books.
[0:17:57 – 0:17:58] Erik: First four hours.
[0:17:58 – 0:17:59] Adam: You can get that on Libby.
[0:17:59 – 0:18:01] Adam: Yeah.
[0:18:01 – 0:18:12] Erik: And then the second four hours of your free untired eight hours would be putting those learned techniques into practice and committing some crime.
[0:18:12 – 0:18:13] Adam: Absolutely.
[0:18:13 – 0:18:13] Adam: Yeah.
[0:18:13 – 0:18:17] Adam: Split it half and half to improving yourself and crime.
[0:18:18 – 0:18:38] Erik: Yeah, my other big stipulation with this hypothetical situation is I would also just, I think for me to have any interest in this, I would need the preconceived feelings, not even preconceived, but memory of how much I enjoy sleep to be also wiped away.
[0:18:38 – 0:18:43] Erik: Because if I knew, I would miss it too much.
[0:18:43 – 0:18:45] Erik: But if that could also, yeah, sure, then I’m fine.
[0:18:47 – 0:18:49] Adam: Yeah, just keep on trucking.
[0:18:49 – 0:18:50] Erik: Yeah.
[0:18:50 – 0:19:00] Erik: And then the other one, which I’m sure is like a pretty common one, but like if you could choose, besides just like peacefully dying in your sleep, like how to go out, you could just pick one.
[0:19:01 – 0:19:02] Erik: Shipwreck.
[0:19:02 – 0:19:02] Erik: Down in a shipwreck?
[0:19:03 – 0:19:03] Erik: Yeah.
[0:19:03 – 0:19:04] Erik: Yeah, mine was plane crash.
[0:19:04 – 0:19:05] Erik: Okay.
[0:19:06 – 0:19:06] Adam: It’s exciting.
[0:19:07 – 0:19:12] Erik: One of the more disturbing answers was somebody just said, I want to feel what it would be like to get squished.
[0:19:12 – 0:19:12] Erik: What?
[0:19:13 – 0:19:13] Adam: I was like, what?
[0:19:14 – 0:19:14] Erik: No.
[0:19:14 – 0:19:15] Adam: That’s a shipwreck.
[0:19:15 – 0:19:16] Adam: That’s a shipwreck.
[0:19:16 – 0:19:17] Adam: You get squished at the bottom.
[0:19:18 – 0:19:19] Adam: Yeah, eventually.
[0:19:19 – 0:19:21] Adam: It depends how fast you go down to the bottom.
[0:19:21 – 0:19:23] Adam: You may not get so much squished as squeezed.
[0:19:25 – 0:19:25] Erik: Yeah.
[0:19:26 – 0:19:26] Erik: Yeah.
[0:19:27 – 0:19:27] Erik: Yeah.
[0:19:28 – 0:19:28] Adam: Imploded.
[0:19:29 – 0:19:35] Erik: I mean, I would hope you’d get squeezed, you know, so quick that it would just be over.
[0:19:35 – 0:19:37] Erik: It’s the drowning that would…
[0:19:37 – 0:19:41] Adam: I don’t think you’d drown in a shipwreck so much as you get squeezed and…
[0:19:42 – 0:19:43] Erik: Probably just ravaged by debris.
[0:19:43 – 0:19:45] Erik: You get debride.
[0:19:46 – 0:19:47] Erik: Some boiler gets knocked loose.
[0:19:47 – 0:19:48] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:19:48 – 0:19:49] Adam: It’s October now.
[0:19:49 – 0:19:53] Adam: I sent you the Heinolt screenshots again.
[0:19:53 – 0:19:57] Adam: I was revisiting the Heinolt theory this week.
[0:19:59 – 0:20:00] Erik: Revisiting the Heinolt.
[0:20:00 – 0:20:01] Erik: I can’t.
[0:20:02 – 0:20:08] Adam: I’m probably going to, speaking of all that time I’m going to have to read now, I’m definitely going to go back and reread the Edmund Fitzgerald book here this month.
[0:20:09 – 0:20:09] Adam: Yeah.
[0:20:09 – 0:20:11] Erik: Just think about how much reading you could get done.
[0:20:11 – 0:20:13] Erik: You’d be rereading books.
[0:20:13 – 0:20:13] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:20:14 – 0:20:17] Adam: Be memorizing, not just reading, just memorizing.
[0:20:18 – 0:20:21] Erik: Maybe there is just a dirty little secret that’s out there for some of these people.
[0:20:21 – 0:20:23] Erik: Maybe Heinolt does have this superpower.
[0:20:24 – 0:20:24] Erik: Maybe.
[0:20:24 – 0:20:26] Erik: That’s why he’s so into the shipwrecks.
[0:20:26 – 0:20:36] Adam: You got to have a cozy reading basement and a nice Davenport to sit upon to do all this reading and building of models of boats out of foam block.
[0:20:36 – 0:20:40] Erik: Some musty, horrible basement couch.
[0:20:41 – 0:20:48] Adam: So I’m obviously back into like, I’m deep diving back into like my favorite shipwreck videos on YouTube right now.
[0:20:48 – 0:20:48] Adam: Dreckfall.
[0:20:49 – 0:21:12] Adam: and i do have a shipwreck book coming on libby for real this is not a joke that’s a real libby book i got coming i know you wouldn’t joke about on the morel um that’s the one that broke in half and kept going the back kept going yeah yeah yeah it’s creepy it is creepy the screw kept it turning eric yeah yeah and uh i been yeah so shipwreck that’s my final answer
[0:21:12 – 0:21:18] Erik: But you wouldn’t be worried about getting like a smokestack crushed on the deck like that guy from Titanic?
[0:21:19 – 0:21:19] Erik: No.
[0:21:19 – 0:21:23] Erik: If you could guarantee that you want to be like going under.
[0:21:23 – 0:21:23] Erik: Yeah.
[0:21:23 – 0:21:24] Erik: Okay.
[0:21:24 – 0:21:25] Adam: I don’t want to be in the boiler either.
[0:21:25 – 0:21:28] Adam: I want to be up on top where you can see it all happening.
[0:21:28 – 0:21:28] Adam: Yeah.
[0:21:28 – 0:21:28] Adam: Yeah.
[0:21:28 – 0:21:35] Adam: I want to be able to see the hatch covers flying off and the waves, the green wave washing over the deck.
[0:21:36 – 0:22:03] Erik: experience yeah the full the full shipwreck experience now that’s really living as you’re dying yeah yeah totally i think uh yeah same for me would be the plane crash just because you know you get the you get the experience of the madness of what a cabin in a plane where you just knew you know like oh we’re upside down like this isn’t saying we’re not coming back you’re not gonna recover from this little maneuver
[0:22:03 – 0:22:04] Erik: We’re going to a party.
[0:22:04 – 0:22:04] Erik: Yeah.
[0:22:05 – 0:22:06] Adam: It’s your party.
[0:22:06 – 0:22:08] Erik: All right.
[0:22:08 – 0:22:08] Erik: Yeah.
[0:22:08 – 0:22:09] Erik: Well, we got those out of the way.
[0:22:10 – 0:22:16] Erik: I’ll bring back your answers and share with the staff and see.
[0:22:16 – 0:22:19] Erik: I was like, what’s just squished under like a big rock or what?
[0:22:19 – 0:22:20] Adam: Squished is a pretty weird one.
[0:22:20 – 0:22:21] Adam: Yeah.
[0:22:21 – 0:22:23] Erik: It’s like, that’s kind of disturbing.
[0:22:23 – 0:22:27] Erik: Not that there’s, I don’t know, like all of the answers to that one are kind of disturbing.
[0:22:27 – 0:22:31] Adam: Like shipwreck’s scary, but it’s not like getting mauled by wolves scary or bear.
[0:22:32 – 0:22:32] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:22:32 – 0:22:33] Erik: I wouldn’t want any of that.
[0:22:33 – 0:22:36] Adam: No, that’s not, because you’re not even guaranteed a quick one there.
[0:22:36 – 0:22:36] Adam: No.
[0:22:36 – 0:22:37] Adam: At least it’s going to be quick.
[0:22:38 – 0:22:41] Erik: Yeah, the plane crash is like scary in the moment, but there’s not going to be much pain.
[0:22:41 – 0:22:43] Adam: I think you’d be at peace with it immediately like that.
[0:22:44 – 0:22:44] Adam: Probably.
[0:22:44 – 0:22:45] Erik: Yeah.
[0:22:45 – 0:22:46] Adam: What’s, you know, what’s the big deal?
[0:22:46 – 0:22:47] Adam: What’s coming next?
[0:22:47 – 0:22:48] Adam: Yeah.
[0:22:48 – 0:22:50] Adam: What am I going to get reincarnated as?
[0:22:51 – 0:22:51] Adam: Yeah.
[0:22:51 – 0:22:52] Adam: Will I remember my past life?
[0:22:53 – 0:23:00] Erik: Yeah, I mean, if all goes well, we will both die in a plane crash into a Great Lake.
[0:23:00 – 0:23:06] Erik: So it’s a plane crash shipwreck scenario because we’re flying over a couple of Great Lakes.
[0:23:06 – 0:23:08] Adam: Yeah, a plane becomes a ship.
[0:23:08 – 0:23:34] Adam: yeah they try and sully it basically will fly right over the edmund fitzgerald site oh yeah from t bay down to taranto yeah you basically go right over the top yeah so there you go well i just got to spend the next month watching all of the uh flight crash investigators to make me feel a lot better about the safety that is current commercial airline i’m going to specialize in looking up uh aircraft disasters that involve iced wings
[0:23:35 – 0:23:59] Adam: oh well hopefully there won’t be any iced wing scenarios um it’s gonna be a gala november though yeah it could be iced wings could be uh yeah i got a really pretty solid you know insurance policy so my family will be well taken care of and i’ll get to live an exciting uh death well i’d hope so live an exciting death yeah it’s a guns and roses song yeah that one’s off of use your illusion three
[0:23:59 – 0:23:59] Adam: I knew it.
[0:23:59 – 0:24:03] Erik: Yeah, that sounded right.
[0:24:03 – 0:24:05] Erik: Yeah, just as long as those pitot tubes don’t ice up.
[0:24:07 – 0:24:08] Erik: We’re not flying on Air France.
[0:24:08 – 0:24:09] Erik: No, Air France flights here.
[0:24:09 – 0:24:10] Erik: No, we’re not flying there.
[0:24:10 – 0:24:11] Erik: He knows what I’m talking about.
[0:24:11 – 0:24:12] Adam: I knew exactly what you’re talking about.
[0:24:13 – 0:24:15] Erik: Yeah.
[0:24:15 – 0:24:16] Adam: Titanic of the sky.
[0:24:17 – 0:24:18] Adam: That’s what they called her.
[0:24:18 – 0:24:20] Adam: The deepest part of the Atlantic.
[0:24:20 – 0:24:20] Adam: Oh, God.
[0:24:20 – 0:24:22] Erik: How did they even find that thing?
[0:24:22 – 0:24:23] Erik: It took years, but they found it.
[0:24:23 – 0:24:24] Erik: They did find it.
[0:24:24 – 0:24:24] Adam: Yeah.
[0:24:24 – 0:24:26] Adam: Never did find the Malaysian one, though.
[0:24:26 – 0:24:33] Erik: No, actually, that plane crash is referenced in the back half of the How to Read Water book because of new- Sonar?
[0:24:34 – 0:24:44] Erik: No, because there’s a new science behind dating debris based on how old the barnacles on it are.
[0:24:44 – 0:24:44] Adam: Oh.
[0:24:44 – 0:24:49] Erik: So when a piece of that plane washed up like a year later, they were able to like…
[0:24:50 – 0:24:52] Adam: Essentially do like… Radio barnacle dating?
[0:24:53 – 0:24:55] Adam: Yeah, like dating it to make sure… RBD.
[0:24:55 – 0:24:59] Erik: Could this be… And in fact, it was like lined up pretty well…
[0:24:59 – 0:25:00] Erik: Enough barnacles.
[0:25:00 – 0:25:03] Erik: How long it had been in the water that it is…
[0:25:03 – 0:25:06] Erik: There’s shrapnel from that plane out there that’s washed up on shore.
[0:25:07 – 0:25:14] Adam: I was watching a video on the morel, and you cannot dive to the Edmund Fitzgerald, but you can still dive to the morel out in Lake Huron.
[0:25:15 – 0:25:16] Adam: And they were diving down.
[0:25:16 – 0:25:17] Adam: It’s covered in quagga mussel.
[0:25:18 – 0:25:20] Adam: Is a quagga mussel a type of barnacle?
[0:25:20 – 0:25:21] Adam: I don’t think so.
[0:25:21 – 0:25:22] Adam: Is that invasive?
[0:25:22 – 0:25:23] Adam: It is invasive.
[0:25:24 – 0:25:26] Adam: It’s like worse than the zebra mussel times a billion.
[0:25:26 – 0:25:27] Adam: Oh, wow.
[0:25:27 – 0:25:29] Adam: They’re tinier, and they filter more water.
[0:25:30 – 0:25:33] Adam: The Great Lakes are very crystal clear these days due to the amount of quagga.
[0:25:34 – 0:26:03] Adam: quagga quagga that’s um yeah each quagga mussel like filters as much like plankton or whatever teensy food each quagga mussel filters as much teensy food as one asian carp each day and there’s like a billion more of them in there yeah and i think they mostly have kept the asian carp out of getting into lake michigan from chicago but yeah they like electrify some fences or something they did yeah i still feel like they’re gonna make it in though
[0:26:03 – 0:26:04] Erik: Yeah, they always do.
[0:26:04 – 0:26:06] Adam: Very persistent, those carp.
[0:26:07 – 0:26:08] Adam: How many whiskers have they got?
[0:26:08 – 0:26:10] Erik: It’s a real quagmire.
[0:26:14 – 0:26:15] Adam: My whistle is now wetted.
[0:26:15 – 0:26:16] Erik: I can tell.
[0:26:16 – 0:26:17] Erik: I’m feeling good.
[0:26:17 – 0:26:19] Adam: It’s glistening from here.
[0:26:19 – 0:26:21] Adam: We’re looking good here in the shed.
[0:26:22 – 0:26:25] Erik: Yeah, we’re just going to start popping these.
[0:26:25 – 0:26:27] Erik: Again, the second week we’ve been talking about this book.
[0:26:28 – 0:26:29] Erik: Little facts here and there.
[0:26:30 – 0:26:32] Erik: Maybe it’ll drum up some more…
[0:26:33 – 0:26:57] Erik: heightened conversation around some of them maybe not maybe we will just move on after said uh what i found to be an interesting bit of information uh if you’re into the aspects of water when it comes to large bodies of it um and shipping the back half and sailing the back half of the how to read water book is uh going to be right up your alley
[0:26:57 – 0:27:04] Adam: What’s up with when they’re going from wood ships to steel ships, they had steamships with masts.
[0:27:04 – 0:27:07] Adam: They had propellers and they had sails.
[0:27:08 – 0:27:08] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:27:09 – 0:27:11] Adam: I do not like this phase of shipping.
[0:27:11 – 0:27:12] Adam: That’s the worst era.
[0:27:12 – 0:27:15] Erik: That wasn’t answered in the book as far as I remember.
[0:27:15 – 0:27:16] Erik: Have you ever seen The Triangle of Sadness?
[0:27:18 – 0:27:18] Adam: We were talking about it.
[0:27:19 – 0:27:19] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:27:19 – 0:27:21] Adam: I looked it up, and I have it bookmarked.
[0:27:21 – 0:27:22] Adam: I’m ready to go.
[0:27:22 – 0:27:28] Erik: There’s a woman that takes her complaint to the captain at one point at the captain’s dinner about how the sails were dirty.
[0:27:28 – 0:27:28] Erik: Yeah.
[0:27:29 – 0:27:33] Erik: And he’s like, this is a motorized boat, ma’am.
[0:27:34 – 0:27:36] Erik: Yes, but the sails.
[0:27:36 – 0:27:37] Adam: We’ll get up there and clean the sails, ma’am.
[0:27:37 – 0:27:38] Adam: We’ll scrub them.
[0:27:38 – 0:27:39] Adam: We’ll send up our interns.
[0:27:40 – 0:27:41] Adam: Sail interns.
[0:27:41 – 0:27:42] Adam: Sail interns.
[0:27:42 – 0:27:43] Adam: Don’t they call those cadets?
[0:27:44 – 0:27:45] Adam: Yeah.
[0:27:45 – 0:27:45] Adam: Yeah.
[0:27:46 – 0:27:48] Adam: They all get Glocks.
[0:27:48 – 0:27:52] Erik: Yeah, so I’m not going to get into the hyper shipping.
[0:27:52 – 0:27:54] Erik: He talks about all the different…
[0:27:54 – 0:27:55] Erik: I mean, it was interesting to read.
[0:27:55 – 0:28:00] Erik: I don’t think it would be very interesting to go through what all the lights in a harbor mean.
[0:28:01 – 0:28:02] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:28:02 – 0:28:09] Erik: Like channel markers, channel markers and cardinal markers and how they flash and what the different durations of flashes mean.
[0:28:10 – 0:28:16] Adam: And I tell you, I was so one more final aside and I’ll stop interrupting.
[0:28:16 – 0:28:17] Erik: No, that’s what this is all about.
[0:28:17 – 0:28:20] Adam: We’re in St. Luke’s for the birth of the baby.
[0:28:20 – 0:28:23] Adam: Who is baby girl is now four weeks old already.
[0:28:23 – 0:28:25] Adam: A month.
[0:28:25 – 0:28:25] Adam: A whole month.
[0:28:26 – 0:28:27] Adam: She’s doing great.
[0:28:27 – 0:28:35] Adam: And we’re in St. Luke’s, and one of the days we’re in the Osprey Lookout, and there’s like 150 sailboats just on the big lake there.
[0:28:35 – 0:28:36] Erik: Regatta.
[0:28:36 – 0:28:38] Adam: Yeah, I’m like, what kind of regatta is going on out here?
[0:28:38 – 0:28:45] Adam: So I started Googling around, and there’s like the Duluth or Twin Ports Sailing Club hosts like every Wednesday night a regatta.
[0:28:46 – 0:28:46] Erik: Oh, wow.
[0:28:46 – 0:28:47] Erik: Every Wednesday.
[0:28:47 – 0:28:49] Adam: And it’s like, this was the last one of the season though.
[0:28:49 – 0:28:50] Adam: It’s not like year round.
[0:28:50 – 0:28:51] Adam: It’s just a summer thing.
[0:28:52 – 0:28:56] Adam: But yeah, it was like the very beginning of September is the last of the regatta.
[0:28:56 – 0:28:56] Adam: Yeah.
[0:28:57 – 0:29:02] Adam: And, uh, I was looking at that and then I ended up like looking at it like, well, how does it work?
[0:29:02 – 0:29:15] Adam: You know, like they have different routes for different regattas each week and you have to like have all these licensing and you gotta be a member or somebody, a member of the yacht club has to be on board your vessel during the regatta itself.
[0:29:15 – 0:29:16] Adam: Yeah.
[0:29:16 – 0:29:18] Adam: How many people are part of the Yacht Club?
[0:29:18 – 0:29:20] Adam: There’s a ton of people out there in these boats.
[0:29:20 – 0:29:24] Adam: Well, I mean, Duluth, there’s a lot of water, a lot of boats, a lot of money.
[0:29:24 – 0:29:34] Adam: But what I’m getting to is that on their website, they had the Duluth Harbor maps of very detailed charts.
[0:29:34 – 0:29:34] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:29:34 – 0:29:35] Erik: He talks all about it.
[0:29:35 – 0:29:35] Erik: They’re not maps.
[0:29:35 – 0:29:36] Erik: God damn it.
[0:29:36 – 0:29:37] Erik: They’re charts.
[0:29:37 – 0:29:37] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:29:38 – 0:29:45] Adam: We went on the haunted Irving last year, and the haunted ghoul in the pilot’s house yelled at me because I called the charts maps.
[0:29:45 – 0:29:45] Adam: Oh, no.
[0:29:45 – 0:29:46] Erik: They’re charts.
[0:29:47 – 0:29:47] Erik: Not maps.
[0:29:47 – 0:29:49] Adam: Sorry, ghoul, sir.
[0:29:49 – 0:29:49] Adam: Yep.
[0:29:50 – 0:29:51] Erik: Drink your bag of blood now.
[0:29:52 – 0:29:52] Adam: Yeah.
[0:29:52 – 0:29:52] Adam: All right.
[0:29:53 – 0:30:04] Adam: Anyways, they had really nice charts, I’m sorry, on the Yacht Club website, which I spent the better part of an hour perusing those while mom and baby napped.
[0:30:05 – 0:30:05] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:30:05 – 0:30:06] Erik: It’s pretty interesting.
[0:30:06 – 0:30:07] Erik: There’s a whole lot.
[0:30:07 – 0:30:10] Adam: The level of detail on the lights and the channels and the depth.
[0:30:10 – 0:30:12] Adam: I love just looking at depth maps of lakes.
[0:30:12 – 0:30:14] Adam: I could look at those all day.
[0:30:14 – 0:30:14] Erik: Yeah.
[0:30:14 – 0:30:22] Erik: I mean, it’s especially useful for, well, obviously for almost all aspects of sailing and a lot of the ocean, especially.
[0:30:22 – 0:30:26] Erik: Lake Superior probably doesn’t have as many of the- Don’t go to Superior Shoal.
[0:30:26 – 0:30:31] Erik: No, any of the intricacies that a lot of like tidal issues cause.
[0:30:31 – 0:30:33] Adam: Oh, tides, yeah.
[0:30:33 – 0:30:37] Erik: The tides that causes, you know, a lot of crazy things happen in the ocean.
[0:30:37 – 0:30:38] Erik: I like that.
[0:30:38 – 0:30:43] Erik: But then especially those charts are useful for, like I was saying, like night harbor navigating.
[0:30:44 – 0:30:51] Erik: And a lot of those like numbers and signals are to help you determine like where you are because they say specifically what these lights will be doing.
[0:30:52 – 0:30:57] Erik: So you can be like, oh, well, that light is flashing this often and it’s this color.
[0:30:57 – 0:30:58] Erik: So I know where I am.
[0:30:59 – 0:31:01] Erik: That’s what a lot of those numbers and letters on the map mean.
[0:31:01 – 0:31:02] Erik: That’s what I’ll do with my eight hours.
[0:31:02 – 0:31:05] Adam: Does each lighthouse have its own signature?
[0:31:06 – 0:31:06] Erik: Yeah.
[0:31:07 – 0:31:11] Erik: And a lot of times, not necessarily lighthouses anymore, but they used to.
[0:31:12 – 0:31:36] Erik: a lot of them are just like uh like markers in the water right on like which way is safe which way is left and right and but in terms of like lighthouses yeah a lot they used to flash and they would determine they would tell you like how high up they were um you know if you decode it enough it’ll give you the recipe for my lobster chowder yeah surely sure you like me lobster
[0:31:37 – 0:31:38] Adam: Surely.
[0:31:38 – 0:31:43] Erik: So have you ever heard that every seventh wave is like bigger?
[0:31:43 – 0:31:47] Adam: Oh, man, I was watching a whole video about rogue waves last night.
[0:31:48 – 0:31:58] Adam: These Canadians in Ottawa have a trillion-gallon tank with a bunch of flappers in it, and they can simulate any kind of wave you want, Eric.
[0:31:58 – 0:31:58] Adam: Sure.
[0:31:58 – 0:31:59] Adam: Oh, I love wave.
[0:32:00 – 0:32:02] Erik: Yeah, I was doing my wave research all week.
[0:32:02 – 0:32:05] Erik: Yeah, he’s come preloaded with wave info.
[0:32:05 – 0:32:07] Adam: I’ve been to the simulator.
[0:32:07 – 0:32:11] Erik: Scientists, ocean scientists…
[0:32:13 – 0:32:22] Erik: seemingly have calculated the actual rogue waves, like those that are like double the height of the surrounding waves, is actually closer to like 1 in 2,000 waves.
[0:32:22 – 0:32:23] Adam: Yeah, it’s freakish.
[0:32:23 – 0:32:30] Adam: That’s why one could swamp the Edmund Fitzgerald but completely leave the Arthur Anderson to still be floating to this day.
[0:32:30 – 0:32:30] Erik: Yeah.
[0:32:31 – 0:32:33] Adam: Not just floating, Eric, but working.
[0:32:33 – 0:32:34] Erik: Working.
[0:32:34 – 0:32:35] Erik: Making that money.
[0:32:35 – 0:32:36] Erik: That’s what it’s all about.
[0:32:36 – 0:32:37] Erik: It’s a commercial venture.
[0:32:39 – 0:32:40] Erik: You got to keep making trips.
[0:32:41 – 0:32:42] Erik: Are you familiar with the Beaufort scale?
[0:32:43 – 0:32:43] Erik: Beaufort?
[0:32:43 – 0:32:45] Erik: I want to start using the Beaufort scale.
[0:32:45 – 0:32:46] Adam: Yeah.
[0:32:46 – 0:32:47] Adam: What’s the Beaufort?
[0:32:47 – 0:32:49] Adam: It’s just the wind scale from zero to 12.
[0:32:49 – 0:32:49] Adam: I think.
[0:32:49 – 0:32:52] Adam: this was referenced in the Edmund Fitzgerald book last year.
[0:32:52 – 0:32:54] Adam: This was two years ago he did that book now.
[0:32:54 – 0:33:00] Erik: Yeah, From Calm to Hurricane, Wind Descriptions, and Speed in Knots.
[0:33:01 – 0:33:04] Adam: Yeah, I am confused by knots, I guess.
[0:33:04 – 0:33:07] Erik: Well, that’s the thing, because knots, like, I always have to look it up.
[0:33:07 – 0:33:09] Erik: I’m like, how fast is a knot?
[0:33:09 – 0:33:14] Erik: And it’s just like, like, 30 knots is like 34 miles per hour.
[0:33:14 – 0:33:16] Erik: Like, they’re already pretty close.
[0:33:16 – 0:33:17] Adam: It’s close enough.
[0:33:17 – 0:33:18] Adam: It’s not metric.
[0:33:18 – 0:33:19] Adam: It’s its own…
[0:33:19 – 0:33:20] Adam: It’s a whole different thing?
[0:33:20 – 0:33:21] Erik: Yeah, it’s its own thing.
[0:33:21 – 0:33:23] Adam: The numbers of the sea.
[0:33:23 – 0:33:23] Erik: Yeah.
[0:33:24 – 0:33:28] Erik: How many… Yeah, is it literally based on…
[0:33:28 – 0:33:33] Erik: I don’t know where the term came from, but I’m sure it has to do with a literal knot at some point.
[0:33:34 – 0:33:34] Adam: It probably is a knot.
[0:33:35 – 0:33:35] Erik: Yeah.
[0:33:36 – 0:33:37] Adam: It takes you this long.
[0:33:37 – 0:33:37] Adam: Yeah.
[0:33:37 – 0:33:41] Adam: The wind takes this far to travel while you tie this exact knot.
[0:33:41 – 0:33:46] Erik: Yeah, it’s just a little bit more of a general scale.
[0:33:46 – 0:33:48] Adam: It’s a loose horse double hitch.
[0:33:48 – 0:33:49] Erik: Yeah, exactly.
[0:33:50 – 0:33:57] Erik: I just do love the, it also gives a classification for the state of the sea on the scale.
[0:33:57 – 0:33:58] Erik: Okay.
[0:33:58 – 0:34:02] Erik: With zero being glassy, six being rough, 12, phenomenal.
[0:34:03 – 0:34:04] Erik: Phenomenal.
[0:34:04 – 0:34:06] Adam: 12 is Phenomenal C?
[0:34:06 – 0:34:09] Erik: Yes, Phenomenal C. Wow.
[0:34:10 – 0:34:11] Erik: You could take that any which way.
[0:34:11 – 0:34:12] Erik: Phenomenally, like, dang.
[0:34:13 – 0:34:16] Adam: I’m assuming it’s phenomenally rough.
[0:34:16 – 0:34:16] Adam: Terrifying.
[0:34:17 – 0:34:18] Adam: Yeah, okay.
[0:34:18 – 0:34:18] Adam: Hurricane.
[0:34:18 – 0:34:20] Adam: Zero is Dead Calm Reflections.
[0:34:20 – 0:34:21] Adam: DCR.
[0:34:21 – 0:34:22] Adam: 12 is Phenomenal?
[0:34:22 – 0:34:22] Adam: Mm-hmm.
[0:34:22 – 0:34:23] Adam: All right.
[0:34:24 – 0:34:24] Adam: Yeah.
[0:34:24 – 0:34:26] Adam: Phenomenal C. I love that.
[0:34:27 – 0:34:35] Erik: Phenomenal Sea, I also learned about reflected and refracting waves.
[0:34:35 – 0:34:38] Erik: You know, we always somehow seem to…
[0:34:39 – 0:34:41] Adam: I feel like this is a Cache Bay story.
[0:34:41 – 0:34:50] Erik: Well, it’s actually a Kasakaquag story about that campsite we decided to venture out from when we very much shouldn’t have.
[0:34:50 – 0:34:50] Erik: Right.
[0:34:50 – 0:34:53] Adam: And we were getting the… We went out of the backside of the campsite, though.
[0:34:53 – 0:34:54] Adam: I’m sure it’s safe.
[0:34:54 – 0:34:54] Adam: Yeah.
[0:34:55 – 0:34:56] Erik: Yeah, it’s calm in the woods here.
[0:34:56 – 0:34:57] Adam: Yeah.
[0:34:58 – 0:34:59] Erik: You got refracted.
[0:34:59 – 0:35:00] Erik: We were getting those crazy waves.
[0:35:00 – 0:35:01] Erik: Yeah.
[0:35:01 – 0:35:07] Erik: Which is probably not exactly what this term is here, but pretty close to it.
[0:35:07 – 0:35:08] Erik: It’s French.
[0:35:09 – 0:35:10] Erik: Ah, good.
[0:35:10 – 0:35:14] Erik: For lapping waffle.
[0:35:14 – 0:35:16] Erik: So, Clepotis Gaufre.
[0:35:17 – 0:35:19] Adam: Now, that sounds like a fancy hockey team name.
[0:35:20 – 0:35:20] Adam: Yeah.
[0:35:20 – 0:35:22] Adam: Laughing waffle?
[0:35:22 – 0:35:22] Erik: Lapping.
[0:35:22 – 0:35:23] Erik: Okay.
[0:35:24 – 0:35:47] Erik: laughing lapping lapping and waffled lapping waffled so essentially when that happens is when you get the two different waves coming from different directions yeah more often than not in this scenario the uh lapping waffle is like a ricochet bouncing off of like a wall at an angle and then coming back out at a different direction but it’s another french word for you
[0:35:47 – 0:36:00] Erik: When we were in those conditions, I feel like it was mostly due to the fact that wind was kind of coming around a big island from one direction and from a different direction to the north.
[0:36:00 – 0:36:05] Erik: But I feel like it was giving that same, it was giving Cleopatus gopher.
[0:36:05 – 0:36:06] Adam: Oh, we’re lapping.
[0:36:06 – 0:36:08] Adam: Yeah, we were lapping waffles.
[0:36:08 – 0:36:09] Adam: We’re waffled.
[0:36:11 – 0:36:12] Adam: A few other things.
[0:36:12 – 0:36:13] Erik: A few other things, yeah.
[0:36:13 – 0:36:14] Erik: Barely survived.
[0:36:14 – 0:36:20] Erik: In the 90s, the U.S. military took mankind’s ability to read beaches to a whole new level.
[0:36:21 – 0:36:22] Adam: Beach scanner.
[0:36:22 – 0:36:23] Erik: No.
[0:36:23 – 0:36:24] Adam: Sandy duck 97.
[0:36:25 – 0:36:26] Adam: Sandy duck 97.
[0:36:26 – 0:36:27] Adam: Yeah.
[0:36:28 – 0:36:29] Adam: That’s my hotmail account.
[0:36:29 – 0:36:32] Adam: The hell?
[0:36:33 – 0:36:35] Adam: Who wrote this book?
[0:36:35 – 0:36:36] Adam: Ghouli?
[0:36:36 – 0:36:37] Adam: There were so many things.
[0:36:37 – 0:36:37] Erik: Call me up.
[0:36:37 – 0:36:41] Erik: about that that are kind of interesting that it took until 1997 to…
[0:36:41 – 0:36:43] Erik: Understand beaches?
[0:36:43 – 0:36:46] Erik: Just like, hey, let’s really figure out these… What’s going on out here?
[0:36:46 – 0:36:47] Adam: These beaches, guys.
[0:36:47 – 0:36:49] Adam: What’s up with all this sand?
[0:36:49 – 0:36:49] Erik: Yeah.
[0:36:50 – 0:36:50] Adam: And then also…
[0:36:50 – 0:36:51] Adam: It’s everywhere.
[0:36:51 – 0:36:58] Erik: Just the… That that’s usually what it takes and I think why we understand to a certain extent
[0:36:58 – 0:37:03] Erik: Like, obviously, like the curiosity and the scientists of the world will get you to a certain point.
[0:37:04 – 0:37:04] Adam: Right.
[0:37:04 – 0:37:18] Erik: But if you want a wide scale, massive operation to fully understand anything, even if it is scientific, just kind of gloss over it and make it sound like it’s will give us a militaristic advantage in some way.
[0:37:18 – 0:37:23] Erik: And we’ll throw all the money at it and understand it better than any anybody else.
[0:37:23 – 0:37:24] Erik: The Chinese.
[0:37:25 – 0:37:25] Erik: For sure.
[0:37:25 – 0:37:26] Erik: The Chinese.
[0:37:26 – 0:37:26] Erik: Yeah.
[0:37:28 – 0:37:29] Erik: Sandy Duck 97.
[0:37:29 – 0:37:30] Erik: Look out.
[0:37:31 – 0:37:33] Erik: Do you know the difference between rip current and undertow?
[0:37:33 – 0:37:37] Adam: Does one involve a river?
[0:37:37 – 0:37:41] Adam: Or is it all beach action?
[0:37:41 – 0:37:42] Erik: This is all beach.
[0:37:42 – 0:37:45] Erik: These are the results of Sandy Duck 97.
[0:37:45 – 0:37:45] Adam: Okay.
[0:37:46 – 0:37:46] Adam: No, not really.
[0:37:47 – 0:37:48] Adam: Is it the steepness of the beach?
[0:37:49 – 0:37:53] Adam: Or the coarseness of the sand?
[0:37:54 – 0:37:55] Adam: No, not really.
[0:37:55 – 0:37:56] Adam: I’m out of ideas.
[0:37:56 – 0:37:56] Adam: Yeah.
[0:37:56 – 0:37:57] Adam: What is it?
[0:37:57 – 0:37:58] Adam: I’m on the edge of my seat.
[0:37:58 – 0:37:59] Adam: Please tell me.
[0:37:59 – 0:38:01] Erik: But you always hear like, oh, we got to look out for the undertow.
[0:38:01 – 0:38:02] Erik: Yeah.
[0:38:02 – 0:38:03] Erik: Careful of the undertow.
[0:38:03 – 0:38:03] Erik: It’ll get you.
[0:38:03 – 0:38:05] Adam: Is it freshwater versus saltwater?
[0:38:05 – 0:38:05] Adam: No.
[0:38:06 – 0:38:06] Adam: Dang.
[0:38:06 – 0:38:07] Adam: What is it?
[0:38:07 – 0:38:10] Erik: So you can have rip currents and undertows in both fresh and saltwater.
[0:38:11 – 0:38:12] Erik: Rip currents are what kill people.
[0:38:13 – 0:38:19] Erik: Undertow doesn’t really ever unless you’re like a stupid baby or something.
[0:38:19 – 0:38:21] Adam: I don’t know how to swim.
[0:38:21 – 0:38:22] Erik: Yeah.
[0:38:22 – 0:38:26] Erik: So rip current is basically anytime you feel that like sideways movement on a beach.
[0:38:27 – 0:38:29] Adam: I don’t know if I’ve ever experienced either of these.
[0:38:30 – 0:38:31] Erik: Well, you’ve experienced undertow.
[0:38:31 – 0:38:38] Erik: Undertow is basically just that feeling of when the waves go back out into the sea after they crash.
[0:38:38 – 0:38:39] Adam: Back from whence you came.
[0:38:39 – 0:38:40] Erik: Yeah.
[0:38:40 – 0:38:45] Erik: So a wave crashing and going up the sand on a beach, that’s called the swash.
[0:38:46 – 0:38:46] Erik: Swash.
[0:38:46 – 0:38:49] Erik: And then when it flows back, that’s the backwash.
[0:38:49 – 0:38:52] Erik: And when that backwash goes under waves that are crashing, that’s the undertow.
[0:38:52 – 0:38:53] Erik: Yeah, okay.
[0:38:53 – 0:38:56] Erik: And it will slowly just stop and then get reincorporated back into the water.
[0:38:56 – 0:38:56] Erik: Get swashed again.
[0:38:57 – 0:39:02] Erik: So you really can’t get pulled out to the open sea from an undertow.
[0:39:02 – 0:39:15] Adam: One time I was sitting at the Cadunce River Beach during steelhead season and I watched a bobber that it was just a loose bobber and it kept getting swashed and then towed, swashed and towed.
[0:39:16 – 0:39:22] Adam: But then it was mixing with the current of the Cadunce River and it just was like doing this circuit.
[0:39:23 – 0:39:27] Adam: I was mesmerized like that kid in American Beauty watching the garbage bag, Eric.
[0:39:27 – 0:39:27] Adam: You know what I’m talking about?
[0:39:28 – 0:39:28] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:39:28 – 0:39:31] Adam: So much beauty and watching this bobber get swashed around.
[0:39:32 – 0:39:36] Adam: You know, it’s a lot like this Bobber Missouri lager from Log Boat Brewing.
[0:39:37 – 0:39:38] Adam: Delicious.
[0:39:39 – 0:39:39] Adam: Beautiful.
[0:39:40 – 0:39:40] Erik: Elegant.
[0:39:40 – 0:39:41] Erik: So the rip current…
[0:39:43 – 0:39:48] Erik: If you’ve been on a beach that has, almost all beaches will have a bar out in front of it.
[0:39:49 – 0:39:50] Erik: Or a reef.
[0:39:50 – 0:39:55] Erik: Not necessarily a reef, a bar like from the material that’s also up on the beach.
[0:39:55 – 0:39:55] Erik: It’s also beach.
[0:39:56 – 0:39:57] Adam: Yeah.
[0:39:57 – 0:39:59] Adam: And you will see this when you’re on the ocean.
[0:39:59 – 0:40:00] Adam: For sure.
[0:40:00 – 0:40:03] Adam: When you get low tide, you can walk out to the bar.
[0:40:04 – 0:40:04] Erik: Yeah.
[0:40:04 – 0:40:09] Erik: And that’s just the nature of how like sand beaches or gravel beaches work.
[0:40:09 – 0:40:10] Erik: All beach have bar.
[0:40:10 – 0:40:11] Erik: The physics, all beach have bar.
[0:40:11 – 0:40:12] Erik: Okay.
[0:40:13 – 0:40:21] Erik: And so what happens is the water, when it gets into that in between the main beach and the bar.
[0:40:21 – 0:40:21] Erik: Yeah.
[0:40:22 – 0:40:27] Erik: And, you know, anytime water flows through a narrow space, it accelerates.
[0:40:27 – 0:40:37] Erik: So when, anytime you get a situation where you’re in between the bar and the beach and maybe a piece of that bar like breaks away and more of that water is flowing out.
[0:40:38 – 0:40:43] Erik: So that’s where the rip current comes from is it’s pulling you out towards that point of compressed water.
[0:40:44 – 0:40:45] Adam: There’s a hole in the bar.
[0:40:45 – 0:40:45] Adam: Yeah.
[0:40:46 – 0:40:47] Adam: Sometimes the bar eat you.
[0:40:47 – 0:40:47] Erik: Yeah.
[0:40:48 – 0:40:48] Erik: Sometimes.
[0:40:49 – 0:40:52] Erik: And sometimes it is a reef that’s just always there and you can like count on it.
[0:40:52 – 0:40:54] Erik: Like, well, there’s always a rip current right there.
[0:40:55 – 0:40:55] Erik: Because there’s a hole.
[0:40:56 – 0:41:03] Erik: But sometimes just based on how the waves or the wind has changed the bar, that’ll break apart and you can get a rip current at any time.
[0:41:04 – 0:41:11] Adam: I guess I’ve heard about people who, like, there’s danger in the Twin Ports beaches when you get, you know, a lot of fetch.
[0:41:11 – 0:41:14] Erik: You see, well, fetch, that’s an entirely different conversation.
[0:41:14 – 0:41:21] Adam: You get a lot of wind coming that can kind of just funnel into the Twin Ports, and then I’ve heard of, like, I’ve heard of them say, like, stay off the beaches.
[0:41:21 – 0:41:24] Erik: There’s rip current warnings down in the Twin Ports all the time, yeah.
[0:41:25 – 0:41:25] Adam: They’ll get you.
[0:41:26 – 0:41:27] Adam: They’ll rip the bar up.
[0:41:28 – 0:41:35] Erik: And they always say you’re supposed to swim parallel to the beach, not directly against where you’ve just come from, which is probably easier.
[0:41:36 – 0:41:37] Erik: Easier said than done then.
[0:41:38 – 0:41:39] Erik: Yeah.
[0:41:39 – 0:41:41] Erik: Every patch of sand in the world is unique.
[0:41:42 – 0:41:43] Erik: He kept going on and on about that.
[0:41:43 – 0:41:44] Erik: I was just like, yeah, of course.
[0:41:44 – 0:41:47] Erik: It’s a different material everywhere.
[0:41:49 – 0:41:52] Erik: But he was somewhat excited about it.
[0:41:52 – 0:41:56] Erik: I was more excited about the term for sand collectors.
[0:41:57 – 0:42:15] Erik: uh-huh arena files is this like you’re putting in a jar yeah to savor there’s a sand collector society is there their motto discovering the world one grain at a time one grain at a time yeah that’s very poetic
[0:42:15 – 0:42:16] Erik: Yeah.
[0:42:16 – 0:42:27] Erik: I mean, I have our little marriage glass jar that we filled with sand from the beach at Clearwater is now like half full with sands from beaches all over the world.
[0:42:27 – 0:42:28] Erik: We got green ones.
[0:42:28 – 0:42:29] Erik: We got black ones.
[0:42:29 – 0:42:30] Erik: Yeah.
[0:42:30 – 0:42:31] Erik: White ones that are mostly shells.
[0:42:32 – 0:42:32] Erik: Wow.
[0:42:33 – 0:42:33] Erik: Yeah.
[0:42:33 – 0:42:35] Erik: I could see how it could become a little hobby.
[0:42:35 – 0:42:35] Erik: Yeah.
[0:42:38 – 0:42:47] Adam: Yeah, I think we’re always, as a human species, far too concerned with the infinite bigness and never enough with the infinite smallness of the universe.
[0:42:48 – 0:42:49] Adam: The little grains.
[0:42:49 – 0:42:50] Adam: Every little grain counts.
[0:42:51 – 0:42:52] Erik: One grain at a time.
[0:42:52 – 0:42:54] Erik: Every grain is a miracle, Eric.
[0:42:55 – 0:42:56] Erik: Every grain counts.
[0:42:56 – 0:42:58] Erik: Grain lives matter.
[0:42:58 – 0:42:59] Erik: They sure do.
[0:43:01 – 0:43:02] Erik: Oh, God.
[0:43:04 – 0:43:05] Erik: Do you have any thoughts?
[0:43:06 – 0:43:12] Erik: What comes to mind if I were to ask you what the strongest biological material ever tested is?
[0:43:14 – 0:43:14] Erik: Do you know like…
[0:43:16 – 0:43:35] Erik: like a material that is not man-made let’s say uh-huh is it silica silicon uh it doesn’t really have that much to do with sand okay well you tricked me yeah like but like uh uh naturally like made by um an animal or something that’s alive i guess oh okay so is it a shell
[0:43:36 – 0:43:37] Erik: Close.
[0:43:37 – 0:43:38] Erik: Yeah.
[0:43:38 – 0:43:48] Erik: So for the longest time, spider silk was the strongest known, but apparently limpet teeth are the strongest biological material.
[0:43:48 – 0:43:50] Adam: Limpet teeth are stronger.
[0:43:50 – 0:43:55] Adam: They defeat in the classic game of teeth strand and shell.
[0:43:55 – 0:44:08] Erik: There wasn’t a bunch of like math to prove this, but he claimed that it was strong enough that a piece of string the width of a spaghetti noodle made of limpet teeth material could lift a car.
[0:44:09 – 0:44:09] Adam: No shit.
[0:44:09 – 0:44:10] Adam: Okay.
[0:44:11 – 0:44:11] Adam: All right.
[0:44:12 – 0:44:16] Adam: I’m very impressed.
[0:44:16 – 0:44:17] Erik: Teeth threads?
[0:44:17 – 0:44:18] Erik: Teeth threads.
[0:44:18 – 0:44:19] Erik: Teeth are these.
[0:44:20 – 0:44:21] Erik: Well, you know what limpets are?
[0:44:21 – 0:44:26] Erik: They’re basically just when you find the shallow cup shells on a beach.
[0:44:26 – 0:44:28] Erik: Those are basically like limpet shells.
[0:44:29 – 0:44:29] Erik: Yeah.
[0:44:30 – 0:44:34] Erik: It’s what all the people on Alone eat whenever they’re on Vancouver Island and they can’t catch fish.
[0:44:34 – 0:44:39] Erik: They just pluck those little suckers, those little shells that are sucked to the sides of rocks.
[0:44:39 – 0:44:39] Erik: Yeah, eat those.
[0:44:39 – 0:44:42] Erik: And pry out the tiny little bit of meat that’s in them.
[0:44:42 – 0:44:49] Erik: And they’re always giving the facts where it’s like the text on the bottom of the screen is like, this will provide Jim with four calories.
[0:44:49 – 0:44:52] Adam: I saw a graph on like calories to…
[0:44:56 – 0:45:00] Adam: Boy, I don’t know, like cost, average cost or whatever, like sunflower seeds.
[0:45:00 – 0:45:01] Adam: Price?
[0:45:01 – 0:45:03] Adam: Yeah, price to calorie.
[0:45:03 – 0:45:05] Erik: Have you ever grown a sunflower to seed?
[0:45:05 – 0:45:07] Erik: We have four in the garden right now.
[0:45:07 – 0:45:08] Erik: Are you going to get seeds?
[0:45:08 – 0:45:08] Erik: Yes.
[0:45:08 – 0:45:08] Erik: Big David’s?
[0:45:08 – 0:45:10] Adam: They’re incredible.
[0:45:10 – 0:45:10] Adam: Damn.
[0:45:10 – 0:45:13] Adam: They’re like twice as tall as me, and I’m not even exaggerating.
[0:45:14 – 0:45:15] Erik: And they got a bunch of seeds in them.
[0:45:15 – 0:45:16] Erik: You’re going to dry them?
[0:45:16 – 0:45:17] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:45:17 – 0:45:19] Adam: I have to look up how to extract the seeds.
[0:45:19 – 0:45:21] Adam: Do you boil the whole flower or what happens?
[0:45:21 – 0:45:22] Adam: I’ve never…
[0:45:22 – 0:45:29] Erik: Considering the proliferation of big seeds in the big sunflower seed, have you ever seen a huge operation?
[0:45:30 – 0:45:54] Erik: no like where do they come from i don’t you gotta like get a tweezers i don’t know what’s gonna happen i’m so excited a little scared like the fields of the big sunflower fields of north dakota yeah i’ve never seen like a large field like there are bags and bags of sunflower seeds littering every gas station in this country and i don’t know if i’ve ever seen a major sunflower seed growing operation
[0:45:54 – 0:45:58] Adam: Yeah, Ukraine is the number one exporter of sunflower seed.
[0:45:58 – 0:46:03] Adam: But they’re also the greatest value, like price to calorie intake.
[0:46:03 – 0:46:05] Erik: For calories specifically?
[0:46:05 – 0:46:06] Adam: Is sunflower seeds, yeah.
[0:46:06 – 0:46:10] Adam: Like a lot of the nuts are over there in that bottom right column.
[0:46:11 – 0:46:12] Erik: Yeah, I’m a big nut guy.
[0:46:12 – 0:46:15] Erik: I don’t really eat too much of the… Like the sunflower seed a lot?
[0:46:15 – 0:46:17] Erik: The animal proteins that much anymore.
[0:46:17 – 0:46:21] Erik: I wouldn’t describe myself as a vegetarian, but I don’t eat meat very often.
[0:46:21 – 0:46:22] Erik: I eat a lot of nut.
[0:46:22 – 0:46:24] Adam: Me and Eric, we’re both part of chickpea-nash.
[0:46:24 – 0:46:26] Erik: Egg, nut, chickpea.
[0:46:26 – 0:46:26] Adam: Yeah.
[0:46:27 – 0:46:27] Erik: Yeah.
[0:46:28 – 0:46:28] Adam: Absolutely.
[0:46:28 – 0:46:30] Adam: Peanut butter.
[0:46:30 – 0:46:30] Erik: Oh, God.
[0:46:30 – 0:46:32] Erik: I go through peanut butter like…
[0:46:32 – 0:46:33] Adam: I’ve been… Yeah.
[0:46:33 – 0:46:34] Erik: Flows.
[0:46:34 – 0:46:36] Erik: It flows down me.
[0:46:36 – 0:46:40] Adam: Do you ever just sit down and eat like… Just open up a peanut butter with a spoon?
[0:46:40 – 0:46:41] Adam: Hell yeah.
[0:46:41 – 0:46:42] Adam: Or daily.
[0:46:42 – 0:46:43] Erik: All right.
[0:46:44 – 0:46:46] Adam: I knew I liked you.
[0:46:46 – 0:46:47] Adam: 267 episodes.
[0:46:47 – 0:46:49] Adam: We finally found our love language.
[0:46:49 – 0:46:51] Adam: Peanut butter by the spoonful.
[0:46:51 – 0:46:53] Erik: How do you think I choked on all the apples?
[0:46:54 – 0:46:56] Erik: You got to do it.
[0:46:56 – 0:46:57] Adam: Slatter it.
[0:46:59 – 0:47:00] Erik: What do I answer on a log?
[0:47:00 – 0:47:02] Erik: Yeah, just mostly log.
[0:47:02 – 0:47:03] Erik: It’s mostly just log.
[0:47:03 – 0:47:03] Erik: Yeah.
[0:47:03 – 0:47:04] Erik: Two raisins.
[0:47:07 – 0:47:09] Erik: What is the log in that scenario?
[0:47:09 – 0:47:11] Erik: I guess it’s the peanut butter or is it the celery?
[0:47:11 – 0:47:12] Adam: What is the peanut butter then?
[0:47:12 – 0:47:13] Adam: Yeah.
[0:47:13 – 0:47:13] Adam: The bark?
[0:47:14 – 0:47:15] Erik: Yeah.
[0:47:15 – 0:47:16] Erik: I just tongue that bark right off.
[0:47:16 – 0:47:18] Adam: Give me all the bark in that scenario.
[0:47:18 – 0:47:18] Adam: Yeah.
[0:47:19 – 0:47:19] Adam: Yeah.
[0:47:19 – 0:47:24] Adam: So the lipid teeth are a great source of protein or?
[0:47:25 – 0:47:25] Adam: No, they’re just calories.
[0:47:25 – 0:47:26] Adam: Calories.
[0:47:27 – 0:47:27] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:47:27 – 0:47:29] Erik: If you’re eating them on a loan?
[0:47:29 – 0:47:31] Adam: Because you said they’re eating them on a loan.
[0:47:32 – 0:47:34] Adam: Oh, it’s just because they’re available.
[0:47:34 – 0:47:35] Adam: Oh, it’s not because they’re savvy.
[0:47:35 – 0:47:37] Adam: It’s just because it’s the only thing they can grab.
[0:47:37 – 0:47:39] Erik: Yeah, it’s usually like a point of no return.
[0:47:39 – 0:47:41] Adam: It’s probably on the other end of the thing.
[0:47:41 – 0:47:43] Adam: It’s like they’re barely worth chewing these things.
[0:47:43 – 0:47:45] Erik: Well, there is always the discussion on that.
[0:47:45 – 0:47:47] Erik: See, this is why I feel like we just need to do a season.
[0:47:47 – 0:47:47] Erik: I think we would.
[0:47:48 – 0:47:49] Adam: Somebody is suggesting we should do season 11.
[0:47:49 – 0:47:50] Adam: Okay.
[0:47:50 – 0:47:52] Erik: Well, I’m currently watching that one.
[0:47:52 – 0:47:54] Erik: I don’t know if I could pull away at this point.
[0:47:55 – 0:48:02] Erik: I would be happy to do it again, but I feel like we should go a little bit deeper into the catalog for one that I don’t necessarily remember as much.
[0:48:02 – 0:48:03] Erik: I trust your judgment on that one.
[0:48:03 – 0:48:10] Erik: But the conversation is always, some people are really good at it, especially now that the show has been around for as long as it has.
[0:48:10 – 0:48:11] Adam: The book has been written.
[0:48:12 – 0:48:16] Erik: Well, and there’s people that are on it now that are just, like, calling out other people on previous seasons.
[0:48:16 – 0:48:17] Erik: They’re like, this is now.
[0:48:18 – 0:48:23] Erik: I know exactly, like, this is the time of the game where people stop catching fish.
[0:48:23 – 0:48:25] Adam: This is the Beverly technique.
[0:48:25 – 0:48:27] Erik: And they get in their heads, and I’m not going to be like that.
[0:48:27 – 0:48:28] Erik: And then, you know.
[0:48:28 – 0:48:31] Erik: But they’re always talking about, like, which is valid.
[0:48:31 – 0:48:35] Erik: Like, what is… Like, you’re talking about sunflower seeds, like…
[0:48:36 – 0:49:01] Erik: money for calories but like expenditure and yeah what about work for calorie totally and there’s been people who have won after like getting big game and going through all of the work to like process it uh-huh but then there’s some people that have and it’s no there’s one season that really pissed you off because they just the guy just like sat in a little hut and did nothing well that’s yes he showed up fat and happy and just like waited him out
[0:49:01 – 0:49:21] Erik: I don’t know how they’ve done it where I feel like the last few seasons, the last two specifically, because it seemed like that’s where the show was going, which was put on 100 pounds and then kind of try for a couple of weeks, keep yourself entertained, build a little shelter, and then just sit in your sleeping bag and conserve energy.
[0:49:22 – 0:49:22] Erik: And they haven’t come out.
[0:49:22 – 0:49:23] Erik: It’s a mental game.
[0:49:23 – 0:49:26] Erik: Yeah, it’s a mental game, but it’s not interesting to watch.
[0:49:26 – 0:49:26] Erik: Yeah.
[0:49:27 – 0:49:32] Erik: It’s like, I want to see people who are like, I might learn a thing or two about like, oh, you can eat that.
[0:49:32 – 0:49:35] Erik: Or how are they going to set up their nets?
[0:49:35 – 0:49:36] Erik: Or how are they going to make fishing lures?
[0:49:36 – 0:49:38] Adam: I thought we were going to do like a weigh-in.
[0:49:38 – 0:49:45] Adam: Like you got to like weigh in when you apply for the show and then you’re not allowed to like put on 200 pounds before like, you know, you get thrown on the island.
[0:49:45 – 0:49:46] Erik: Right.
[0:49:46 – 0:49:49] Erik: And I was like, I might just be done with this show if that’s what it’s going to be.
[0:49:49 – 0:49:50] Erik: Watch the starvation fest?
[0:49:50 – 0:49:50] Erik: No.
[0:49:50 – 0:49:51] Erik: Yeah.
[0:49:51 – 0:49:52] Erik: But they…
[0:49:52 – 0:49:57] Erik: The show isn’t specifically said that they’re not like…
[0:49:57 – 0:49:58] Erik: They’re not one way.
[0:49:58 – 0:49:58] Erik: They’re not against it.
[0:49:58 – 0:49:59] Erik: They’re not for it.
[0:49:59 – 0:50:02] Erik: Because there’s been people that are like, I put on weight before this show, but I’m still going to like…
[0:50:03 – 0:50:03] Erik: Right, right.
[0:50:04 – 0:50:04] Erik: Do my thing.
[0:50:04 – 0:50:13] Erik: And the last few seasons have been like pretty good in terms of like these people are actually trying to like live in the woods, not just like not die for as long as possible.
[0:50:13 – 0:50:14] Erik: So…
[0:50:14 – 0:50:16] Erik: And there have been people who were like, no, I didn’t put on weight for it.
[0:50:16 – 0:50:18] Erik: I want it to be as natural as possible.
[0:50:19 – 0:50:20] Erik: They usually don’t do well.
[0:50:21 – 0:50:23] Adam: But you should have.
[0:50:23 – 0:50:25] Adam: Yeah.
[0:50:25 – 0:50:28] Adam: Should have had a couple extra cans of peanut butter before you jumped on the flight.
[0:50:30 – 0:50:31] Erik: That’s a, I mean.
[0:50:32 – 0:50:34] Erik: You ever seen peanut butter in a can?
[0:50:35 – 0:50:36] Erik: Like a tin can?
[0:50:36 – 0:50:37] Adam: Yeah.
[0:50:38 – 0:50:41] Adam: They had to have had peanut butter in a tin can at some point.
[0:50:41 – 0:50:42] Adam: I’ve never seen it in my life.
[0:50:42 – 0:50:43] Adam: Why would you need to can it?
[0:50:43 – 0:50:44] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:50:44 – 0:50:44] Adam: Why wouldn’t you?
[0:50:45 – 0:50:46] Erik: I mean, I guess.
[0:50:46 – 0:50:47] Erik: Yeah, there’s all kinds of crazy stuff that gets canned.
[0:50:47 – 0:50:51] Adam: I’d rather have a tin can of peanut butter than more plastic in this world.
[0:50:51 – 0:50:53] Erik: Well, sure, but, you know.
[0:50:53 – 0:50:56] Adam: Give me crunchy peanut butter in a tin can.
[0:50:57 – 0:50:58] Adam: Give me liberty.
[0:50:58 – 0:50:59] Adam: One or the other, please.
[0:50:59 – 0:51:02] Adam: Well, there’s a… That’s what Thomas Jefferson said, I’m pretty sure.
[0:51:02 – 0:51:06] Erik: There’s little, like, Go-Gurt-sized containers of peanut butter.
[0:51:06 – 0:51:07] Erik: I’ve seen those before.
[0:51:08 – 0:51:09] Erik: But I want, like, a full bag.
[0:51:09 – 0:51:09] Erik: Oh, a squeezy?
[0:51:09 – 0:51:11] Erik: Like a big squeeze bag.
[0:51:11 – 0:51:14] Adam: Yeah, give me the big squeezy, like the Kewpie Mayo-sized one.
[0:51:14 – 0:51:15] Adam: Oh, God, yes.
[0:51:15 – 0:51:16] Adam: Yeah.
[0:51:16 – 0:51:22] Adam: Just think about… Just give me one thing of peanut butter and one thing of Kewpie Mayo, and I’ll be happy as a quagga mussel.
[0:51:22 – 0:51:25] Erik: Just goober mixing in the mouth.
[0:51:25 – 0:51:25] Erik: Goober mouth mixing?
[0:51:25 – 0:51:28] Adam: That’s goober mouth mixers, yes.
[0:51:28 – 0:51:28] Adam: Oh, boy.
[0:51:28 – 0:51:31] Erik: I like to pre-goober before I take a bite of the burger.
[0:51:32 – 0:51:33] Adam: Absolutely, burgered meat.
[0:51:33 – 0:51:36] Adam: That’s what we did on Alan back in that fateful June.
[0:51:36 – 0:51:44] Erik: Yeah, we were just squirting mayo packets and eating hastily cooked burgered meat because the bugs were so bad.
[0:51:44 – 0:51:45] Adam: Yes.
[0:51:46 – 0:51:48] Adam: Anybody who’s been up the Gunpoint Trail understands what we’re saying.
[0:51:48 – 0:51:51] Adam: Anybody who hasn’t, it’s like, what is wrong with these people?
[0:51:51 – 0:51:51] Erik: Yeah.
[0:51:51 – 0:51:58] Erik: Well, generally, I would say if you’re 50 minutes in and 266 episodes in… You understand what the goober is?
[0:51:58 – 0:52:00] Adam: They understand everything.
[0:52:00 – 0:52:01] Adam: They understand it all.
[0:52:01 – 0:52:04] Erik: All these references are hitting so hard and close to home.
[0:52:04 – 0:52:06] Adam: You know that this is somebody’s first episode.
[0:52:06 – 0:52:07] Adam: Oh, God.
[0:52:07 – 0:52:10] Adam: If this is your first episode of Tumble Home, bless your heart.
[0:52:10 – 0:52:10] Adam: Yeah.
[0:52:11 – 0:52:11] Erik: Yeah.
[0:52:11 – 0:52:20] Erik: I mean, you need eight hours of the opposite of sleep to just go back and experience the backlog to even come close to knowing…
[0:52:21 – 0:52:24] Adam: You need a superpower where you can sleep for the next 24 hours and nobody will judge you.
[0:52:27 – 0:52:29] Erik: Hygroscopy.
[0:52:29 – 0:52:30] Adam: Hygroscopy.
[0:52:30 – 0:52:31] Erik: Hygroscopy.
[0:52:31 – 0:52:35] Erik: It’s the name given to the way certain substances attract water.
[0:52:36 – 0:52:41] Erik: Salt is a hydroscopic substance and attracts water.
[0:52:43 – 0:52:45] Erik: which is why a feeling of dampness.
[0:52:45 – 0:52:47] Erik: You ever gone swimming at the beach?
[0:52:47 – 0:52:47] Erik: Yeah.
[0:52:47 – 0:52:48] Erik: In the ocean?
[0:52:48 – 0:52:49] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:52:49 – 0:52:54] Erik: Even after you dry off, you always kind of got that chill, a little light, like, eh.
[0:52:54 – 0:52:54] Erik: Salty skin.
[0:52:54 – 0:53:01] Erik: The salty skin and even the salt, like, in your swim trunks are always reaching out and, like, kind of grabbing any of the moisture that’s in the air.
[0:53:02 – 0:53:09] Erik: And obviously any beach where there’s a wave crashing, there’s always, like, those, like, mists, sandy beach mists.
[0:53:09 – 0:53:09] Erik: Yeah.
[0:53:10 – 0:53:10] Erik: So there you go.
[0:53:11 – 0:53:13] Adam: That’s a little… What about sand?
[0:53:13 – 0:53:15] Adam: Is sand hydroscopic?
[0:53:15 – 0:53:16] Adam: Sand in and of itself?
[0:53:16 – 0:53:17] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:53:17 – 0:53:18] Adam: I don’t think so.
[0:53:20 – 0:53:22] Adam: Is there silicone in salt?
[0:53:23 – 0:53:23] Adam: Na?
[0:53:23 – 0:53:24] Adam: What’s a nitro?
[0:53:25 – 0:53:27] Adam: What’s the composition of salt?
[0:53:28 – 0:53:29] Erik: Yeah, NaCl.
[0:53:30 – 0:53:33] Erik: Chloride, nitrogen, ammonia, and chloride.
[0:53:33 – 0:53:34] Adam: So no silicone?
[0:53:34 – 0:53:35] Erik: I don’t think so.
[0:53:35 – 0:53:36] Erik: I don’t even know if I got the Na right.
[0:53:36 – 0:53:38] Erik: But I know it’s chloride or chlorine.
[0:53:38 – 0:53:39] Adam: Yeah, I’m going to trust you.
[0:53:39 – 0:53:40] Adam: I’m going to trust you on this one.
[0:53:41 – 0:54:01] Erik: yeah um trust me always tides there’s a whole chapter on tides oh man they’re complicated anything on the sage not really i was looking for that actually yeah but uh he’s like based in england and mostly uh a big ocean sailor he sailed by himself across the atlantic ocean
[0:54:02 – 0:54:03] Adam: What about in the lochs up there?
[0:54:03 – 0:54:05] Adam: They got a tide in the lochs?
[0:54:06 – 0:54:08] Adam: Comes in through the caves.
[0:54:08 – 0:54:09] Adam: That’s where Nessie lives.
[0:54:09 – 0:54:14] Erik: No, I don’t remember any loch-seish conversations.
[0:54:14 – 0:54:15] Adam: So it’s all about the tide, though.
[0:54:15 – 0:54:16] Adam: Tides are super interesting.
[0:54:17 – 0:54:17] Adam: Crazy, yeah.
[0:54:17 – 0:54:18] Adam: As is the moon.
[0:54:19 – 0:54:21] Adam: You know, Tumble Homies, you know how I feel about the moon.
[0:54:21 – 0:54:22] Erik: Yeah.
[0:54:22 – 0:54:36] Erik: Did you know that the moon is on an 18 and a half year cycle as it’s going around the earth so that every 18 and a half years, when it’s the closest to the earth, it’s a year of super tides.
[0:54:37 – 0:54:39] Erik: 2033 is the next year of the super tides.
[0:54:39 – 0:54:39] Adam: Okay.
[0:54:40 – 0:54:47] Adam: Is it aligned with any other, like, the grouse and the hares have cycles that bounce off of each other?
[0:54:47 – 0:54:48] Adam: Sure.
[0:54:50 – 0:54:56] Adam: They’re almost a rip current of creature, if you will.
[0:54:56 – 0:54:57] Adam: Yes, almost.
[0:54:58 – 0:55:03] Adam: And, you know, the solar cycle, we’re at, like, next year’s solar max.
[0:55:03 – 0:55:04] Adam: It’s very well documented.
[0:55:04 – 0:55:07] Adam: It’s like every 12 to 13 years, you hit a solar max.
[0:55:08 – 0:55:08] Adam: Yeah.
[0:55:08 – 0:55:10] Adam: And then a subsequent solar minimum.
[0:55:10 – 0:55:14] Adam: There was an X 7.1 flare yesterday.
[0:55:14 – 0:55:14] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:55:14 – 0:55:15] Erik: You sent me that.
[0:55:15 – 0:55:16] Adam: Been a while.
[0:55:17 – 0:55:21] Adam: It looks like the models are predicting Saturday night, so…
[0:55:22 – 0:55:44] Adam: saturday night that’s what they’re saying it looks like it is earth directed and uh while we’re on the topic quickly there is a solar eclipse going on like currently right now on easter island as we speak on easter island yes my god it’s out in like the pacific and it’s only going to hit like easter island a couple other islands out there and then like the tip of chile chile
[0:55:44 – 0:55:47] Adam: Chile, that’s spooky.
[0:55:47 – 0:55:48] Adam: I saw a graphic.
[0:55:48 – 0:55:54] Adam: It was like 1,700 people live in the path of totality of this entire eclipse.
[0:55:54 – 0:55:55] Adam: That they know of.
[0:55:55 – 0:55:56] Adam: That they know of.
[0:55:56 – 0:55:57] Adam: What about the fish?
[0:55:57 – 0:55:59] Adam: Yeah.
[0:55:59 – 0:56:01] Erik: Easter Island, isn’t that the one with the heads?
[0:56:01 – 0:56:02] Adam: That’s the one.
[0:56:02 – 0:56:03] Erik: Yeah, what do they call those?
[0:56:05 – 0:56:05] Adam: The…
[0:56:07 – 0:56:07] Adam: I don’t want to guess.
[0:56:07 – 0:56:09] Adam: I’m going to get it wrong for sure.
[0:56:09 – 0:56:09] Adam: You know the one.
[0:56:10 – 0:56:10] Adam: We know the ones.
[0:56:11 – 0:56:13] Adam: The Mano Mano Aki.
[0:56:13 – 0:56:14] Erik: Got it.
[0:56:14 – 0:56:15] Erik: Got it.
[0:56:16 – 0:56:18] Erik: Yeah, tides are just generally always interesting to me.
[0:56:18 – 0:56:22] Erik: It’s one of my favorite parts about going to the beach, especially for long periods of time.
[0:56:22 – 0:56:23] Erik: Me too.
[0:56:23 – 0:56:25] Erik: When you can kind of like get a vibe.
[0:56:25 – 0:56:27] Erik: But then at the same time, it… Thunder Point.
[0:56:28 – 0:56:29] Erik: Thunder Hole.
[0:56:29 – 0:56:29] Erik: Thunder Hole.
[0:56:29 – 0:56:30] Erik: Yeah.
[0:56:30 – 0:56:35] Erik: Not Thunder Point, although, yeah, there may be some loose tides.
[0:56:35 – 0:56:43] Erik: Really, the only measurable and regular tides are ocean-based, although Lake Superior has been known to be affected slightly.
[0:56:44 – 0:56:44] Adam: That’s a sage.
[0:56:45 – 0:56:45] Erik: It’s not the same.
[0:56:46 – 0:56:47] Erik: It’s not the same.
[0:56:47 – 0:56:47] Erik: You’re right.
[0:56:48 – 0:57:03] Erik: But the sun influencing the tides is one of the things that was always like kind of mind blowing to finally be like, oh, it’s just not just as much, but it is a big part of the tides is the gravitational pull that the sun does.
[0:57:04 – 0:57:19] Erik: Actually causes super tides, super tides, any spring tide, which is on the new or full moon is when the obviously that’s the same time that the sun is lined up with the moon.
[0:57:19 – 0:57:23] Erik: So their powers combine, which is why you get the highest tide of the month.
[0:57:24 – 0:57:25] Erik: Hell yeah.
[0:57:25 – 0:57:25] Erik: Yeah.
[0:57:25 – 0:57:27] Erik: And then you’ve got neap tides.
[0:57:27 – 0:57:28] Erik: Neap.
[0:57:28 – 0:57:35] Erik: Which is when it’s the lowest high tide of the month and the highest low tide.
[0:57:35 – 0:57:36] Erik: So it’s like the kind of like the most.
[0:57:36 – 0:57:37] Erik: It’s like the equinox.
[0:57:37 – 0:57:38] Erik: Like the most.
[0:57:38 – 0:57:38] Erik: Exactly.
[0:57:38 – 0:57:44] Erik: And that’s when the moon is or the sun is at a 90 degree angle to the moon.
[0:57:44 – 0:57:46] Erik: So they’re sort of like offsetting a little bit.
[0:57:46 – 0:57:47] Erik: Mm-hmm.
[0:57:47 – 0:58:00] Erik: So like, as an example, like if the moon is raising a body of water by 12 inches, usually the sun can equal about half of that when it comes to the tide.
[0:58:00 – 0:58:03] Erik: So the sun is involved more than you would think.
[0:58:03 – 0:58:04] Erik: It’s always just, they’re so tied together.
[0:58:04 – 0:58:07] Adam: Do you think the sun is conscious?
[0:58:07 – 0:58:08] Erik: Conscious?
[0:58:08 – 0:58:08] Erik: Yeah.
[0:58:08 – 0:58:08] Erik: No.
[0:58:09 – 0:58:10] Erik: What would make you…
[0:58:11 – 0:58:11] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:58:11 – 0:58:12] Adam: What is consciousness?
[0:58:14 – 0:58:15] Erik: We’re not going to go there.
[0:58:16 – 0:58:17] Erik: Ghoulie?
[0:58:17 – 0:58:17] Erik: We can’t go there.
[0:58:17 – 0:58:18] Erik: Ghoulie?
[0:58:18 – 0:58:18] Erik: Do you know?
[0:58:18 – 0:58:22] Adam: Hit me up on the DMs, Ghoulie.
[0:58:22 – 0:58:25] Adam: I mean… Tomahomecast and the picture app.
[0:58:25 – 0:58:47] Erik: yeah without getting uh too deep into that i just what uh what gives you any uh proof that the sun is conscious oh i don’t have any proof well then fine yeah yeah there’s there then no gives no it gives all life yeah without sun none of this no not even this shed
[0:58:48 – 0:58:49] Erik: No, no.
[0:58:49 – 0:58:51] Adam: So, you know, what is conscious?
[0:58:52 – 0:58:52] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:58:52 – 0:58:53] Adam: It’s all of life.
[0:58:53 – 0:58:55] Adam: Without the sun, there is no life.
[0:58:55 – 0:58:56] Adam: So is it not connected?
[0:58:56 – 0:58:58] Adam: Is it a field that can be measured?
[0:58:59 – 0:59:10] Adam: Are we generating our own consciousness or are we a receiver that is just, you know, receiving and understanding this field?
[0:59:10 – 0:59:10] Adam: Who knows?
[0:59:10 – 0:59:13] Erik: Well, it’s definitely not self-conscious, that’s for sure.
[0:59:13 – 0:59:13] Adam: The sun?
[0:59:13 – 0:59:14] Adam: Yeah.
[0:59:15 – 0:59:17] Adam: Probably not.
[0:59:18 – 0:59:19] Adam: I’ll admit that much.
[0:59:19 – 0:59:20] Adam: You’ll allow it?
[0:59:20 – 0:59:21] Adam: I’ll allow it.
[0:59:22 – 0:59:22] Erik: Point of order.
[0:59:22 – 0:59:25] Erik: Point of law.
[0:59:25 – 0:59:33] Erik: The main players in influencing tidal heights are obviously the moon, sun, wind, air pressure, temperatures, both air and water.
[0:59:33 – 0:59:33] Erik: Vibes.
[0:59:33 – 0:59:41] Erik: But NOAA, and the vibes, takes into account 37 major independent variables when considering…
[0:59:42 – 0:59:43] Erik: 37 tide variables?
[0:59:43 – 0:59:47] Erik: Yeah, that affects the tide height after.
[0:59:48 – 0:59:50] Erik: That’s 37 including moon, sun, wind, air pressure.
[0:59:50 – 0:59:53] Erik: So there’s like 30 more that he didn’t even list.
[0:59:53 – 0:59:54] Erik: I was like, well, what are they?
[0:59:54 – 0:59:55] Erik: And also that’s crazy.
[0:59:56 – 1:00:00] Erik: But also oceanographer, Dr. Arthur Dudeson.
[1:00:00 – 1:00:01] Erik: Dudeson.
[1:00:01 – 1:00:03] Erik: Dudeson identifies 396 factors.
[1:00:03 – 1:00:03] Erik: 396.
[1:00:06 – 1:00:07] Erik: Like, okay, dude.
[1:00:07 – 1:00:10] Adam: So solar consciousness is definitely on the Dudeson scale.
[1:00:10 – 1:00:11] Adam: Yeah.
[1:00:11 – 1:00:15] Erik: The sun is, you know, been working out a lot lately.
[1:00:15 – 1:00:16] Erik: It’s feeling good about itself.
[1:00:16 – 1:00:18] Erik: It’s exuding good vibes.
[1:00:18 – 1:00:18] Erik: Yeah.
[1:00:18 – 1:00:19] Adam: How many flares you got?
[1:00:19 – 1:00:20] Erik: How many flares you got?
[1:00:21 – 1:00:25] Adam: Solar flares are just little, they’re really big hurricanes of plasma.
[1:00:25 – 1:00:26] Erik: In the sky.
[1:00:26 – 1:00:27] Adam: Way out there.
[1:00:28 – 1:00:30] Erik: I wonder if that’s a factor.
[1:00:31 – 1:00:32] Erik: Solar flares?
[1:00:32 – 1:00:33] Adam: Yeah.
[1:00:33 – 1:00:33] Adam: It’s got to be.
[1:00:33 – 1:00:36] Adam: If there’s 396 factors.
[1:00:36 – 1:00:37] Erik: It’s got to be one of those factors.
[1:00:37 – 1:00:38] Adam: It better be.
[1:00:38 – 1:00:38] Adam: Yeah.
[1:00:40 – 1:00:40] Erik: It better be.
[1:00:41 – 1:00:44] Erik: Have you ever seen or have heard of a green flash?
[1:00:45 – 1:00:47] Adam: Yeah, I have.
[1:00:47 – 1:00:55] Adam: It’s like at sunset if you’re out on the Pacific and after the sun goes below the horizon, you get just a brief green flash.
[1:00:55 – 1:00:56] Erik: Yeah, totally.
[1:00:56 – 1:00:57] Erik: I saw one this winter.
[1:00:57 – 1:00:59] Erik: I got to see a green flash in Mexico.
[1:01:01 – 1:01:02] Adam: Huh.
[1:01:02 – 1:01:03] Adam: Like with your naked eye?
[1:01:03 – 1:01:04] Adam: With my naked eye.
[1:01:04 – 1:01:05] Adam: No pirate tubes?
[1:01:05 – 1:01:07] Erik: Walking on the beach, no pirate tube.
[1:01:07 – 1:01:08] Erik: Huh.
[1:01:08 – 1:01:09] Erik: Yeah, I just looked.
[1:01:09 – 1:01:11] Erik: I honestly wasn’t even like, I’m going to go down and see a green flash.
[1:01:12 – 1:01:18] Adam: Oh, it wasn’t like, oh, on the 12th, there’s going to be a green flash potential if there’s clear skies.
[1:01:18 – 1:01:22] Erik: Yeah, I don’t think it’s nearly as predictable as the tides or anything.
[1:01:22 – 1:01:23] Adam: Is it atmospheric?
[1:01:25 – 1:01:27] Erik: Mostly due to a temperature inversion.
[1:01:27 – 1:01:30] Adam: Is that like the thing where you can see the ship floating above the horizon?
[1:01:30 – 1:01:31] Erik: No, that’s looming.
[1:01:32 – 1:01:32] Erik: We’re going to get to that next.
[1:01:32 – 1:01:33] Erik: Looming.
[1:01:33 – 1:01:34] Erik: Looming.
[1:01:34 – 1:01:36] Erik: Okay.
[1:01:36 – 1:01:38] Erik: So, yeah, it’s the way that, like, if you get a temperature.
[1:01:38 – 1:01:39] Erik: Not sloshing.
[1:01:39 – 1:01:40] Erik: I mean, it’s in the same realm.
[1:01:40 – 1:01:41] Adam: Yeah, it’s not sloshing.
[1:01:42 – 1:01:42] Erik: It’s not flashing.
[1:01:43 – 1:01:43] Adam: It’s looming.
[1:01:44 – 1:01:48] Adam: Always, A, B, L, always be looming.
[1:01:48 – 1:01:54] Erik: So it bends light like reds and yellows can’t bend through that temperature inversion when it’s…
[1:01:55 – 1:01:57] Adam: I’m having another beer for this.
[1:01:57 – 1:02:01] Erik: Yeah, and blues, they get bent too much and they go scattering off into the atmosphere.
[1:02:01 – 1:02:02] Adam: That’s why the water’s blue.
[1:02:02 – 1:02:08] Erik: And then green, just for a glorious few seconds, unadulterated green just shoots through.
[1:02:08 – 1:02:09] Erik: The best color.
[1:02:09 – 1:02:12] Erik: Shot right in your eye hole for a glorious few seconds.
[1:02:14 – 1:02:15] Adam: And that’s why auroras are green.
[1:02:16 – 1:02:16] Erik: Yeah.
[1:02:17 – 1:02:18] Adam: Mostly.
[1:02:18 – 1:02:27] Erik: So, yeah, I think we were just talking last week about the distant shores, which is in the same conversation about how you can see.
[1:02:27 – 1:02:28] Erik: That’s not Houghton.
[1:02:28 – 1:02:29] Erik: That’s not Michigan, but it is.
[1:02:29 – 1:02:31] Erik: It is, but it’s not.
[1:02:32 – 1:02:32] Erik: Maybe just a little.
[1:02:33 – 1:02:33] Erik: It’s called looming.
[1:02:33 – 1:02:36] Erik: Whenever you get bands of air that are different temperatures.
[1:02:36 – 1:02:37] Erik: Is Michigan conscious?
[1:02:40 – 1:02:41] Adam: Now we’re thinking.
[1:02:41 – 1:02:44] Adam: Now we’re thinking outside the orbs.
[1:02:44 – 1:02:44] Erik: Yeah.
[1:02:45 – 1:02:48] Erik: Uh, the Inuit call this, here we go.
[1:02:48 – 1:02:49] Erik: I got to zoom in on that one.
[1:02:49 – 1:02:50] Adam: Make sure you get this right.
[1:02:52 – 1:02:55] Erik: Pui Kaktuk.
[1:02:55 – 1:02:55] Erik: Nailed it.
[1:02:55 – 1:02:57] Erik: There’s a lot of Q’s in there.
[1:02:57 – 1:02:57] Erik: Yeah.
[1:02:57 – 1:02:59] Erik: Uh, but it means popping up.
[1:02:59 – 1:03:00] Erik: Popping up.
[1:03:00 – 1:03:05] Erik: And they use it to navigate to impossibly distant locations regularly, which is cool.
[1:03:07 – 1:03:08] Erik: There’s something out there.
[1:03:08 – 1:03:09] Erik: It’s looming.
[1:03:09 – 1:03:10] Erik: Pui, what is it?
[1:03:10 – 1:03:13] Erik: Uh, P-U-I-K-K-A-Q-T-Q.
[1:03:16 – 1:03:19] Erik: I don’t know how to pronounce their double K. Right.
[1:03:19 – 1:03:21] Adam: It’s out there, though.
[1:03:22 – 1:03:30] Adam: Just for a brief moment, you can detect the presence of a place across the curvature of the earth.
[1:03:30 – 1:03:31] Adam: Yeah, crazy.
[1:03:32 – 1:03:33] Adam: Because it’s popping up.
[1:03:33 – 1:03:38] Erik: Because it’s popping up, or it’s the way that the air is essentially just bending the light.
[1:03:39 – 1:03:40] Adam: I love this.
[1:03:41 – 1:03:42] Adam: I’m a big fan of this.
[1:03:42 – 1:03:45] Erik: Yes, I’m a big fan of looming and green flashes.
[1:03:45 – 1:03:52] Adam: Anytime anything along the horizon is… What’s the phenomenon of the floating ship called, though?
[1:03:52 – 1:03:53] Adam: That’s also the same concept.
[1:03:53 – 1:03:54] Adam: That’s a whole different kind of looming.
[1:03:55 – 1:03:55] Erik: Yeah.
[1:03:56 – 1:03:58] Erik: Freshwater looming.
[1:03:58 – 1:04:00] Erik: Sometimes they seem like they’re way too high up in the sky, though.
[1:04:01 – 1:04:02] Adam: Yeah, damn, there’s a name for that.
[1:04:02 – 1:04:05] Erik: It might even be different than that and even more hyper-specific.
[1:04:05 – 1:04:08] Adam: I could find it if I went to our Great Lakes shipping right now.
[1:04:10 – 1:04:11] Adam: Is that really a subreddit?
[1:04:11 – 1:04:11] Adam: Yeah.
[1:04:12 – 1:04:13] Adam: It’s one of my favorites.
[1:04:13 – 1:04:17] Erik: What are you talking about?
[1:04:17 – 1:04:17] Erik: Yeah.
[1:04:17 – 1:04:19] Erik: I mean, that’s about it.
[1:04:20 – 1:04:26] Erik: I mean, I could have put down many more facts, tidbits, information.
[1:04:26 – 1:04:34] Erik: There’s a whole chapter on navigating and keeping track of yourself based on… Fata Morgana.
[1:04:34 – 1:04:35] Erik: There it is.
[1:04:35 – 1:04:35] Erik: Nice.
[1:04:36 – 1:04:36] Adam: There we go.
[1:04:36 – 1:04:37] Adam: Lake Erie.
[1:04:37 – 1:04:37] Erik: Yeah.
[1:04:38 – 1:04:39] Adam: Boat pics.
[1:04:39 – 1:04:40] Adam: Floating boat.
[1:04:41 – 1:04:41] Adam: Fata Morgana.
[1:04:41 – 1:04:43] Adam: Oh, it is really floating.
[1:04:43 – 1:04:44] Adam: It’s gnarly.
[1:04:44 – 1:04:44] Adam: Yep.
[1:04:47 – 1:04:47] Erik: Wow.
[1:04:48 – 1:04:50] Erik: Um, so yeah, I’d recommend it.
[1:04:51 – 1:04:59] Erik: It’s very, it’s, um, I was, I went into it obviously with the frame of reference based around my experiences on water.
[1:05:00 – 1:05:08] Erik: And, uh, that’s, I thought what was going to be a little bit more based on like lakes and, um, like,
[1:05:08 – 1:05:11] Erik: Nature guide-esque, I guess, you know?
[1:05:11 – 1:05:18] Erik: And there’s a little bit of that, but I was surprised at how much, especially the last half, was like big ocean, big shipping.
[1:05:18 – 1:05:21] Adam: From calm puddles to what’s the craziest sea?
[1:05:23 – 1:05:24] Erik: What’s the craziest sea?
[1:05:24 – 1:05:25] Erik: Yeah.
[1:05:25 – 1:05:25] Erik: I don’t know.
[1:05:25 – 1:05:26] Erik: What’s the craziest sea?
[1:05:26 – 1:05:28] Adam: On the level of like 0 to 12.
[1:05:28 – 1:05:29] Erik: Oh, on the Beaufort scale.
[1:05:29 – 1:05:30] Erik: Yeah, what’s the Beaufort?
[1:05:30 – 1:05:32] Erik: I thought you were asking about a specific sea.
[1:05:32 – 1:05:33] Erik: The craziest sea.
[1:05:33 – 1:05:34] Erik: Yeah, yeah.
[1:05:34 – 1:05:34] Erik: The Caspian.
[1:05:34 – 1:05:35] Erik: Caspian.
[1:05:35 – 1:05:35] Adam: Caspian.
[1:05:36 – 1:05:36] Adam: Number one.
[1:05:37 – 1:05:38] Erik: Pew, pew, pew.
[1:05:38 – 1:05:41] Erik: We’ll get the Instagram or the YouTube page going again.
[1:05:41 – 1:05:43] Erik: Top 10 craziest seas.
[1:05:44 – 1:05:46] Erik: Adam hates number six.
[1:05:46 – 1:05:46] Adam: Yeah.
[1:05:47 – 1:05:47] Erik: Not again.
[1:05:47 – 1:05:53] Erik: Yeah, I think it was 12 on the Beaufort.
[1:05:53 – 1:05:53] Erik: Phenomenal.
[1:05:53 – 1:05:56] Adam: Phenomenal seas to calm puddles.
[1:05:57 – 1:06:00] Erik: Yeah, I guess it does say right in the sub byline there or whatever.
[1:06:00 – 1:06:01] Adam: That’s what I was looking at.
[1:06:01 – 1:06:02] Erik: Puddles to the sea.
[1:06:03 – 1:06:04] Adam: Clues and patterns.
[1:06:04 – 1:06:05] Erik: Yeah.
[1:06:06 – 1:06:11] Erik: Learn to gauge depth, navigate, forecast weather, and make other predictions with water.
[1:06:12 – 1:06:13] Erik: One of the other things, I didn’t write it down in here.
[1:06:13 – 1:06:14] Erik: I don’t know why I thought about it.
[1:06:14 – 1:06:19] Erik: Oh, when you were talking about the birds and how they’re so much like the rip currents of the animal world.
[1:06:19 – 1:06:20] Erik: Yeah.
[1:06:21 – 1:06:34] Erik: The way that some locals in the Pacific Islands were able to predict oncoming weather based on how the little crabs in the sand dug the holes out and where they put the sand.
[1:06:36 – 1:06:39] Erik: Like if the sand was just in a neat little pile next to the hole.
[1:06:39 – 1:06:40] Erik: Yeah, all is good.
[1:06:40 – 1:06:42] Erik: Yeah, it was going to be good weather for a while.
[1:06:42 – 1:06:43] Erik: Yeah.
[1:06:43 – 1:06:47] Erik: If their holes were like lightly covered up, you know, it was going to be like windy or something.
[1:06:47 – 1:06:49] Adam: Crab hole forecasting.
[1:06:49 – 1:06:50] Erik: Yeah, basically.
[1:06:51 – 1:06:53] Adam: NOAA, that’s definitely one of the factors.
[1:06:54 – 1:06:56] Erik: Probably not one of the NOAA factors, but Dudeson’s got it in there.
[1:06:56 – 1:06:59] Adam: Dudeson’s got that in the 300 factors, the crab holes.
[1:06:59 – 1:07:00] Adam: Yeah.
[1:07:00 – 1:07:01] Adam: Crab hole factor?
[1:07:02 – 1:07:03] Adam: How’s the crab bunker looking?
[1:07:04 – 1:07:05] Adam: Oh, it’s uniform.
[1:07:06 – 1:07:07] Adam: Yeah, that’s fine.
[1:07:07 – 1:07:07] Erik: Uniform.
[1:07:08 – 1:07:09] Erik: Dry uniform piles.
[1:07:10 – 1:07:12] Adam: They’re really piling them up to the east.
[1:07:13 – 1:07:13] Adam: Man.
[1:07:13 – 1:07:14] Adam: The crabs know.
[1:07:14 – 1:07:23] Erik: I could just go back through this whole episode and pick a random 10 seconds and easily find the title for the episode.
[1:07:23 – 1:07:25] Adam: There’s so many good ones this week.
[1:07:26 – 1:07:29] Adam: Doodson and Gooley are nailing them this week.
[1:07:29 – 1:07:30] Erik: Doodson and Gooley.
[1:07:32 – 1:07:34] Erik: Doodson and Gooley.
[1:07:36 – 1:07:38] Adam: Troubled by waters.
[1:07:39 – 1:07:39] Erik: Oh, my.
[1:07:39 – 1:07:40] Erik: Troubled by waters.
[1:07:40 – 1:07:41] Erik: Totally.
[1:07:41 – 1:07:41] Erik: Yeah.
[1:07:41 – 1:07:43] Erik: All right.
[1:07:43 – 1:07:44] Erik: Any other questions?
[1:07:45 – 1:07:46] Erik: Does anybody have any questions?
[1:07:49 – 1:07:50] Erik: Does anybody have any questions?
[1:07:52 – 1:07:55] Adam: So the birds flying low and fast, they’ll follow them.
[1:07:55 – 1:07:56] Erik: They’ll know.
[1:07:56 – 1:07:57] Erik: All that information is gone.
[1:07:57 – 1:08:00] Erik: I had to replace it with this week’s 10 tidbits.
[1:08:00 – 1:08:02] Erik: So I don’t remember what the birds are doing.
[1:08:03 – 1:08:03] Adam: Low and fast.
[1:08:03 – 1:08:05] Adam: Birds only fly out to sea to die.
[1:08:05 – 1:08:07] Adam: That’s the bird rip current right there.
[1:08:08 – 1:08:10] Adam: Going fast down through the hole in the beach.
[1:08:10 – 1:08:12] Adam: Bird rip current.
[1:08:12 – 1:08:13] Adam: Yeah, that’s right.
[1:08:14 – 1:08:15] Adam: I don’t have any questions.
[1:08:15 – 1:08:17] Adam: I think you thoroughly covered the subject.
[1:08:17 – 1:08:18] Adam: I’m intrigued.
[1:08:18 – 1:08:24] Adam: My main question goes back to what is consciousness, but we’re not going to solve that one tonight, are we?
[1:08:24 – 1:08:27] Erik: Yeah, I’ll read a book on that this weekend and get back to you on that.
[1:08:28 – 1:08:28] Erik: When you’re up all night.
[1:08:28 – 1:08:29] Erik: I think one book should do it.
[1:08:29 – 1:08:40] Adam: Yeah, we can both read a few books on consciousness while we’re not sleeping with our new superpowers and or committing crimes, consciousness crimes.
[1:08:41 – 1:08:47] Adam: Then we can reconvene this time next week to see what we’ve learned, possibly.
[1:08:48 – 1:08:48] Erik: What movie is that?
[1:08:48 – 1:08:49] Erik: The one with Tom Cruise?
[1:08:50 – 1:08:51] Erik: Crimes of Consciousness?
[1:08:51 – 1:08:52] Erik: Reminds me of that.
[1:08:52 – 1:08:53] Erik: Were they like future?
[1:08:53 – 1:08:53] Adam: Vanilla Sky?
[1:08:54 – 1:08:54] Erik: No.
[1:08:54 – 1:08:56] Erik: That’s… God, yeah.
[1:08:56 – 1:08:56] Adam: Vanilla Sky.
[1:08:56 – 1:08:57] Adam: What?
[1:08:57 – 1:08:59] Adam: Is there any fishing in Vanilla Sky?
[1:08:59 – 1:09:01] Erik: What happens in that movie again?
[1:09:01 – 1:09:01] Erik: Is that where…
[1:09:01 – 1:09:02] Erik: Crimes of Consciousness.
[1:09:03 – 1:09:03] Erik: No.
[1:09:03 – 1:09:04] Erik: He signs up.
[1:09:05 – 1:09:11] Erik: It’s like an Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind scenario where he signs up to experience…
[1:09:11 – 1:09:12] Erik: He dies in that…
[1:09:13 – 1:09:13] Erik: Spoiler alert.
[1:09:13 – 1:09:15] Erik: What?
[1:09:15 – 1:09:16] Adam: What?
[1:09:16 – 1:09:17] Adam: I don’t think so.
[1:09:18 – 1:09:18] Erik: Yeah.
[1:09:18 – 1:09:21] Erik: Doesn’t he die in that car crash with Cameron Diaz?
[1:09:21 – 1:09:23] Erik: And then Cameron Diaz causes the car crash.
[1:09:24 – 1:09:24] Erik: Yeah.
[1:09:24 – 1:09:27] Erik: But then he signs up for like a life.
[1:09:27 – 1:09:30] Erik: He like had pre-signed up for this life extension thing.
[1:09:30 – 1:09:31] Erik: Right.
[1:09:31 – 1:09:34] Erik: And so that’s like kind of and they sort of mess it up maybe.
[1:09:35 – 1:09:35] Adam: They do.
[1:09:35 – 1:09:39] Adam: They put the wrong level of… Penelope Cruz.
[1:09:40 – 1:09:45] Adam: They put the wrong levels of water in the tubes, in the pitot tubes.
[1:09:45 – 1:09:45] Erik: Yes.
[1:09:46 – 1:09:48] Adam: And the thing just sunk right to the bottom.
[1:09:48 – 1:09:51] Erik: No, what’s the Tom Cruise, like future crimes?
[1:09:51 – 1:09:54] Adam: No sweet dreams, minority report is what you’re thinking of.
[1:09:54 – 1:09:54] Adam: Yes.
[1:09:54 – 1:09:56] Adam: Yeah, this is no sweet dreams.
[1:09:56 – 1:09:58] Adam: This is a nightmare scenario.
[1:09:58 – 1:09:59] Erik: Nightmare scenario.
[1:09:59 – 1:10:02] Adam: Penelope Cruz is in my nightmares again.
[1:10:02 – 1:10:03] Adam: Not again.
[1:10:03 – 1:10:07] Adam: Because they messed up the level of salt in my tubes.
[1:10:07 – 1:10:10] Adam: I’ll see you in another life when we are both cats.
[1:10:11 – 1:10:13] Erik: Wow, the whole movie is coming back to me.
[1:10:13 – 1:10:16] Adam: I’ll meet you in Montauk.
[1:10:16 – 1:10:17] Erik: Those are the same two lines.
[1:10:17 – 1:10:18] Erik: Yes.
[1:10:18 – 1:10:19] Erik: Oh, my God.
[1:10:20 – 1:10:26] Erik: Wow, we should do Vanilla Sky and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.
[1:10:27 – 1:10:42] Adam: yo it’s a long winter ahead it is long add it to the list compare and contrast there’s only so much hockey to watch you know yeah my god so many only so many books to read we got all these hours at our disposal now you don’t have to fill them with something knowledge hopefully
[1:10:43 – 1:10:45] Erik: Yeah, we’re going to start doing daily podcasts.
[1:10:45 – 1:10:46] Adam: There we go.
[1:10:46 – 1:10:46] Adam: Yeah.
[1:10:47 – 1:10:51] Adam: Weekly fantasy hockey daily podcast.
[1:10:51 – 1:10:52] Erik: Yeah.
[1:10:52 – 1:10:54] Erik: There’s still only so many hours in a day.
[1:10:54 – 1:10:56] Erik: We can’t do everything.
[1:10:57 – 1:10:57] Adam: For now.
[1:10:57 – 1:10:59] Erik: Yeah, we’ll just podcast more.
[1:11:02 – 1:11:05] Adam: We can scoot the earth out a little farther to get extra hours.
[1:11:06 – 1:11:08] Erik: Yeah.
[1:11:08 – 1:11:10] Adam: What if we put all that water on one side of the earth?
[1:11:11 – 1:11:12] Adam: How much…
[1:11:15 – 1:11:17] Adam: This is a question that I should not be asking.
[1:11:18 – 1:11:18] Erik: Okay.
[1:11:18 – 1:11:21] Adam: Can we reverse tides our orbit?
[1:11:22 – 1:11:24] Erik: Can we reverse tides our orbit?
[1:11:25 – 1:11:35] Adam: Somehow push all the water because it’s so sticky to the other side of the earth and then get the orbit of the earth farther away so we get like 26 hours a day.
[1:11:35 – 1:11:40] Erik: And maybe alleviate some of the impending climate change.
[1:11:40 – 1:11:43] Adam: Or to get out of the way of a comet or something.
[1:11:43 – 1:11:46] Adam: Could we move the orbit of the Earth by moving?
[1:11:46 – 1:11:47] Adam: Because water is super heavy.
[1:11:47 – 1:11:52] Adam: One of the videos I watched was like one cubic feet of water is a ton.
[1:11:52 – 1:11:52] Erik: Right, yeah.
[1:11:53 – 1:11:56] Adam: So we just move a couple extra tides over to that side.
[1:11:56 – 1:12:01] Adam: Get the flippers from that Canadian wave pool technology.
[1:12:01 – 1:12:09] Erik: Yeah, but regardless of how it could be done, that wouldn’t give you any more actual time though, would it?
[1:12:10 – 1:12:11] Erik: Would it?
[1:12:11 – 1:12:12] Erik: No, it wouldn’t.
[1:12:13 – 1:12:14] Erik: Would it, though?
[1:12:14 – 1:12:14] Erik: I think it might.
[1:12:14 – 1:12:17] Erik: No, we would just…
[1:12:17 – 1:12:23] Erik: I mean, there wouldn’t be any literal more time in the day.
[1:12:25 – 1:12:28] Erik: Sure, it might take us longer to go around the sun.
[1:12:29 – 1:12:30] Erik: The days would be longer.
[1:12:30 – 1:12:34] Erik: But we wouldn’t experience it as like, okay, now I have all this time.
[1:12:34 – 1:12:35] Erik: Yeah.
[1:12:37 – 1:12:58] Erik: i guess not wouldn’t it still feel like a day you know like we who knows so maybe we could paternity leave for a month at this point and what is time do you yeah do you think if the planet bumped out far enough so that our days extended to would they even tell us 28 hours maybe we did
[1:12:59 – 1:13:20] Erik: in however many years would it take for us to evolve into adjusting our schedules like it’s the only reason that day kind of feels like a day is just because of the way the sun and the moon work and that’s you know our bodies are conditioned to sleep for certain amounts of time i didn’t know we had super tides so not every day is created equal really
[1:13:21 – 1:13:22] Adam: Because of the tides.
[1:13:23 – 1:13:24] Erik: Because of the tides.
[1:13:25 – 1:13:27] Erik: Yeah, it’s like a handful of sand from any beach.
[1:13:27 – 1:13:29] Erik: Every day is unique.
[1:13:30 – 1:13:31] Erik: And a miracle.
[1:13:31 – 1:13:32] Adam: And a miracle.
[1:13:32 – 1:13:34] Adam: That’s my final question, I guess.
[1:13:34 – 1:13:35] Erik: What’s your final question?
[1:13:37 – 1:13:45] Adam: If we could move the planet out to make every day 26 hours or whatever.
[1:13:45 – 1:13:45] Adam: Sure.
[1:13:45 – 1:13:48] Adam: And you would do that by shifting… By moving the water.
[1:13:48 – 1:13:48] Adam: The water.
[1:13:49 – 1:13:52] Adam: So that it would… Would it be… Would time…
[1:13:54 – 1:13:55] Adam: I can’t believe I’m…
[1:13:55 – 1:13:57] Adam: I don’t even know how to ask this.
[1:13:57 – 1:13:58] Adam: Is time the same?
[1:13:59 – 1:13:59] Adam: What is time?
[1:14:00 – 1:14:01] Adam: What is consciousness?
[1:14:01 – 1:14:03] Adam: That’s my final questions on the series.
[1:14:03 – 1:14:04] Adam: Thank you, Ghoulie.
[1:14:04 – 1:14:07] Adam: You really got the gears turning here in the tumble shed.
[1:14:07 – 1:14:08] Erik: Yeah, I mean, sure, what is consciousness?
[1:14:09 – 1:14:10] Erik: But yeah, what is time?
[1:14:10 – 1:14:11] Adam: It’s all connected, I think.
[1:14:14 – 1:14:14] Adam: All right.
[1:14:15 – 1:14:17] Adam: Thanks for the book report.
[1:14:17 – 1:14:19] Adam: That was really enjoyable.
[1:14:19 – 1:14:19] Erik: Yeah.
[1:14:21 – 1:14:21] Erik: Uh, yeah.
[1:14:21 – 1:14:22] Erik: Next up.
[1:14:22 – 1:14:25] Erik: Um, what’s the, uh, Stephen Hawking book.
[1:14:25 – 1:14:27] Erik: We’re going to get cracking into that.
[1:14:27 – 1:14:29] Erik: That should be easy, quick over this weekend.
[1:14:29 – 1:14:30] Erik: Yeah.
[1:14:30 – 1:14:32] Erik: Short history of the universe or whatever.
[1:14:32 – 1:14:35] Adam: Probably like a tomorrow show or maybe Friday show.
[1:14:35 – 1:14:36] Adam: We’ll discuss that one.
[1:14:36 – 1:14:36] Adam: Yep.
[1:14:37 – 1:14:37] Adam: Uh,
[1:14:39 – 1:14:44] Adam: Yeah, we’ll figure out what Einstein told Jack Horkheimer at the end of Oppenheimer.
[1:14:44 – 1:14:45] Erik: Yep.
[1:14:46 – 1:14:48] Adam: He said, I’ll tell you the secret, he said, keep looking up.
[1:14:48 – 1:14:49] Adam: Oh, nice.
[1:14:49 – 1:14:51] Adam: Yeah, that was the secret that he told him by the pond.
[1:14:52 – 1:15:02] Erik: Yeah, and then next week, part four of our 26-part series on the Encyclopedia Britannica, we’re covering the letter D. D is up next.
[1:15:03 – 1:15:03] Adam: Wow.
[1:15:03 – 1:15:04] Adam: I’m excited for that.
[1:15:06 – 1:15:06] Adam: Detroit.
[1:15:07 – 1:15:08] Adam: Detroit.
[1:15:08 – 1:15:10] Adam: Yeah, a lot of history down there.
[1:15:11 – 1:15:15] Adam: All right, well, I have no further questions for this evening.
[1:15:15 – 1:15:19] Adam: I need to prepare for my fantasy hockey draft, so I think we should probably leave it there.
[1:15:19 – 1:15:20] Adam: Sounds great.
[1:15:20 – 1:15:21] Adam: All right, thank you.
[1:15:21 – 1:15:24] Adam: And thank you to everybody who’s joined the Fantasy Hockey League.
[1:15:24 – 1:15:28] Adam: Thank you to our Patreons for your continued support of this proud independent podcast.
[1:15:29 – 1:15:33] Adam: And thank you, Eric, for being here tonight in the shed, this afternoon in the shed.
[1:15:33 – 1:15:39] Erik: Stay tuned for point break and then the eventual combo episode, Vanilla Sky and…
[1:15:41 – 1:15:42] Erik: Minority report.
[1:15:42 – 1:15:43] Erik: And minority report.
[1:15:43 – 1:15:44] Erik: Yeah, that’s the one.
[1:15:44 – 1:15:46] Adam: It’s going to be so good.
[1:15:46 – 1:15:49] Adam: This winter is just filled with thrills.
[1:15:49 – 1:15:49] Adam: Yep.
[1:15:50 – 1:15:50] Adam: All right.
[1:15:51 – 1:15:54] Adam: Well, that’ll do her for 267.
[1:15:54 – 1:15:55] Adam: What an episode.
[1:15:55 – 1:15:58] Erik: We’ve been left with more questions than we’ve answered.
[1:15:58 – 1:15:59] Erik: We’ve been ghoulied.
[1:15:59 – 1:15:59] Adam: Yeah.
[1:15:59 – 1:16:01] Adam: And it is October.
[1:16:01 – 1:16:03] Erik: Every day is a miracle.
[1:16:03 – 1:16:04] Erik: What is time?
[1:16:04 – 1:16:05] Adam: I don’t know.
[1:16:05 – 1:16:05] Adam: The end.