118: You Had Me at 30 MPH

Episode Transcript

[0:00:33 – 0:00:36] Adam: Welcome to Tumble Home Boundary Waters Podcast.
[0:00:36 – 0:00:37] Adam: My name is Adam.
[0:00:38 – 0:00:43] Adam: I’m coming to you live from Studio K2 with my good buddy, Eric.
[0:00:44 – 0:00:44] Adam: Hello.
[0:00:45 – 0:00:46] Adam: Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
[0:00:46 – 0:00:47] Adam: That’s me.
[0:00:49 – 0:00:53] Adam: Episode 118 of Tumble Home.
[0:00:54 – 0:00:56] Adam: Do you want to put a… We’re still talking the wind, baby.
[0:00:56 – 0:00:57] Adam: That old north wind’s still blowing.
[0:00:58 – 0:01:02] Erik: Yeah, we got to definitely still keep talking wind responses.
[0:01:02 – 0:01:02] Erik: Two questions.
[0:01:03 – 0:01:05] Erik: What do you want to call this episode?
[0:01:05 – 0:01:08] Erik: Part one of the two-part question.
[0:01:09 – 0:01:12] Erik: And then two, when do we stop numbering the episodes?
[0:01:12 – 0:01:12] Erik: Ever?
[0:01:12 – 0:01:12] Erik: Ever.
[0:01:12 – 0:01:41] Adam: never we always keep going on the numbers and I think my leading contender for this episode just we haven’t read anything yet we always wait until we actually are recording to read them so maybe something better will come along but the one the working title in my head has been Fresh Breeze do you have any music that’s called Fresh Breeze for the end of this episode maybe I could just showcase my extremely proficient wind sound effect abilities that I have
[0:01:41 – 0:01:45] Adam: Yeah, you’re the windiest synthesizer player I’ve ever met.
[0:01:46 – 0:01:47] Erik: Well, thank you very much.
[0:01:47 – 0:01:48] Erik: That is nice.
[0:01:49 – 0:01:53] Erik: Yeah, thank you for being there, all you patrons.
[0:01:53 – 0:02:12] Erik: Man, we promise to hold ourselves to a better schedule in terms of Tumble Home Cinema Classics, but man, you go through a whole summer and then all of a sudden you think you’re in the clear and then September rolls around and it’s just as busy and…
[0:02:12 – 0:02:35] Erik: fewer staff to help so we are getting our basically our second episode for september up it’ll be up by the time you hear this but we’re recording it after this episode and that is our commentary on the great outdoors a classic so thank you patrons for making that possible look forward to more regularly scheduled programs
[0:02:36 – 0:02:38] Adam: Yeah, October’s busier than September.
[0:02:39 – 0:02:39] Adam: Shush.
[0:02:39 – 0:02:40] Adam: Do not talk like that.
[0:02:40 – 0:02:42] Adam: Just keep on coming on up here.
[0:02:42 – 0:02:44] Adam: Hey, what you got going on up here?
[0:02:44 – 0:02:45] Adam: Go home already.
[0:02:45 – 0:02:47] Adam: No, come on up and visit.
[0:02:47 – 0:02:50] Adam: It’s beautiful up here in North Shore.
[0:02:51 – 0:02:54] Adam: Beautiful Minnesota on the big lake and up the trail.
[0:02:55 – 0:02:56] Adam: The park’s beautiful this time of year.
[0:02:56 – 0:02:57] Adam: It is.
[0:02:57 – 0:03:02] Adam: Eric’s working on the cork over here on our refreshing sponsorship of the evening.
[0:03:03 – 0:03:03] Adam: This is from Christian.
[0:03:03 – 0:03:05] Adam: This is a product of Belgium, it looks like.
[0:03:06 – 0:03:06] Adam: It is.
[0:03:06 – 0:03:10] Erik: We got a couple of beers from Christian here.
[0:03:11 – 0:03:19] Erik: One is a tall bottle, corked bottle of Vielli Provision.
[0:03:19 – 0:03:20] Adam: Let me give a try on that one.
[0:03:21 – 0:03:21] Adam: You give it a shot.
[0:03:23 – 0:03:26] Adam: Vieille Provision Saison Dupont.
[0:03:26 – 0:03:27] Erik: Saison Dupont.
[0:03:27 – 0:03:31] Erik: It’s a Belgian farmhouse ale, unfiltered.
[0:03:31 – 0:03:33] Erik: You ready to drink some beer chunks?
[0:03:33 – 0:03:36] Adam: Yeah, I don’t need to ever have it filtered, honestly.
[0:03:36 – 0:03:39] Adam: I like the cut of their jib over here in Belgium.
[0:03:40 – 0:03:40] Erik: Bottle conditioned.
[0:03:41 – 0:03:48] Erik: And if we get to it, it might carry over into the Tumble Home Cinema Classics review of The Great Outdoors.
[0:03:48 – 0:03:53] Erik: There is also a tall boy can of a heckin’ chunker.
[0:03:53 – 0:03:53] Adam: Oh, wow.
[0:03:54 – 0:03:54] Adam: What a great name.
[0:03:55 – 0:03:55] Adam: It’s a fair state.
[0:03:56 – 0:03:58] Adam: I’m not 100% sure about the flavoring.
[0:04:01 – 0:04:27] Adam: bourbon barrel aged pastry stout with vanilla that’s at 10.5 abv my friends we’ll see if we get there that’s definitely second yeah on the list well what’s the fact of the day while i crack open this give you that ron shara fact of the day today is october 2nd 2020 fact of the day here from ron shara and friends packers are gonna win the superbowl
[0:04:27 – 0:04:29] Erik: That’s the Ron Chera fact.
[0:04:29 – 0:04:29] Erik: That’s crazy.
[0:04:30 – 0:04:30] Adam: Yeah.
[0:04:30 – 0:04:31] Adam: Secondary fact.
[0:04:32 – 0:04:35] Erik: Seems considering he’s a Minnesota man.
[0:04:35 – 0:04:38] Adam: Smart teams don’t draft a wide receiver in the first round?
[0:04:38 – 0:04:39] Adam: Hmm.
[0:04:40 – 0:04:42] Adam: That seems more of an opinion than a fact, Ron, but I’ll take it.
[0:04:43 – 0:04:44] Adam: He’s a smart man, that Ron.
[0:04:46 – 0:04:49] Adam: Got a bonus wind fact for you, Eric, while you’re getting that thing ready.
[0:04:50 – 0:04:51] Adam: I hope you guys heard the pop.
[0:04:52 – 0:04:54] Adam: That was a well done corking.
[0:04:55 – 0:04:57] Adam: Wind is the flow of gases on a large scale.
[0:04:59 – 0:05:01] Adam: There’s some wind coming out of that bottle, it looked like.
[0:05:02 – 0:05:04] Erik: Yeah, it’s all head.
[0:05:06 – 0:05:06] Adam: Thank you.
[0:05:09 – 0:05:13] Adam: I’m starting this recording session with a little night coffee once again here in Studio K2.
[0:05:14 – 0:05:18] Adam: Two weeks in a row, on a Friday, drinking coffee after dark.
[0:05:18 – 0:05:21] Adam: Oh, I’m sorry, I forgot the sunset time on that ranchera.
[0:05:21 – 0:05:22] Adam: It’s sunset 6.53 p.m.
[0:05:24 – 0:05:26] Adam: What was the actual Ron Sheriff fact of the day?
[0:05:26 – 0:05:28] Adam: Packers win the Super Bowl.
[0:05:29 – 0:05:29] Adam: Are you serious?
[0:05:30 – 0:05:31] Adam: I didn’t bring the calendar over here.
[0:05:31 – 0:05:40] Erik: You may need to post that on the Tumble Home cast Instagram for proof because that sounds highly, highly suspicious.
[0:05:40 – 0:05:42] Adam: I’m just reading the calendar, Eric.
[0:05:42 – 0:05:42] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:05:42 – 0:05:43] Adam: I didn’t print it.
[0:05:43 – 0:05:44] Adam: I’m not Ron.
[0:05:44 – 0:05:47] Adam: We’ll talk to him at the end of the season, I guess.
[0:05:47 – 0:05:48] Erik: Just the facts, ma’am.
[0:05:50 – 0:05:55] Erik: You don’t have any additional information from Bill Nye videos?
[0:05:55 – 0:06:01] Adam: Yeah, I watched a Bill Nye video on why is wind this morning while I was getting ready for work.
[0:06:01 – 0:06:02] Adam: Cheers.
[0:06:02 – 0:06:03] Adam: Cheers, plastic.
[0:06:04 – 0:06:05] Adam: Oh, my.
[0:06:10 – 0:06:12] Adam: Well, it’s nice and, yeah, it’s cloudy.
[0:06:12 – 0:06:13] Adam: Yep.
[0:06:13 – 0:06:17] Adam: Cloudy with a chance of chunks here from Belgium, but this is… Chunks.
[0:06:17 – 0:06:17] Erik: Chunks.
[0:06:19 – 0:06:21] Adam: This is just what I needed here.
[0:06:22 – 0:06:24] Adam: This is just what the doctor ordered.
[0:06:25 – 0:06:26] Erik: It is a product of Belgium.
[0:06:28 – 0:06:29] Erik: Not our typical go-to beer.
[0:06:30 – 0:06:34] Erik: There are some interesting beers coming down the pipeline here going forward.
[0:06:35 – 0:06:39] Adam: I like these fancy European beers we sometimes get our hands on.
[0:06:40 – 0:06:40] Erik: Yeah.
[0:06:41 – 0:06:43] Erik: Yeah.
[0:06:43 – 0:06:46] Erik: So it is, like you said, October 2nd, yesterday.
[0:06:47 – 0:06:48] Erik: Full moon yesterday.
[0:06:48 – 0:06:53] Erik: First full moon of October and first snowfall of the season.
[0:06:54 – 0:06:55] Adam: Magic is in the air.
[0:06:56 – 0:06:57] Erik: Yeah, it’s all happening.
[0:06:58 – 0:06:59] Adam: October is going to be fine.
[0:06:59 – 0:07:11] Erik: I think we’ve got a reasonable chance for a bit of a warm-up and hopefully a bit of a chance for me to accomplish that solo trip.
[0:07:11 – 0:07:13] Adam: You’re going to get it done, yeah.
[0:07:13 – 0:07:17] Adam: I finished staining the deck, which is nice, but I got one more painting project I’d like to get in.
[0:07:17 – 0:07:20] Adam: So we need like another series of days where it’s going to get to 70.
[0:07:20 – 0:07:21] Adam: It’s going to happen.
[0:07:21 – 0:07:22] Adam: 70, wow.
[0:07:22 – 0:07:23] Adam: Yeah, we’ll get one.
[0:07:23 – 0:07:25] Erik: Yeah, there’s definitely a couple more 70s out there.
[0:07:25 – 0:07:26] Adam: I’m going to get a swim in here.
[0:07:26 – 0:07:27] Erik: A swim?
[0:07:27 – 0:07:29] Adam: Oh, I’m going to swim on canoe move day for sure.
[0:07:29 – 0:07:31] Erik: Oh, you’re going to swim in Clearwater?
[0:07:31 – 0:07:32] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:07:32 – 0:07:32] Adam: Wow.
[0:07:32 – 0:07:33] Adam: It’s the only place I swim.
[0:07:34 – 0:07:39] Adam: On the surface of the Earth, wind consists of the bulk movement of air in outer space.
[0:07:39 – 0:07:43] Adam: Solar wind is the movement of gases or charged particles from the sun through space.
[0:07:46 – 0:07:51] Adam: Planetary wind is the outgassing of light chemical elements from a planet’s atmosphere into space.
[0:07:52 – 0:07:56] Adam: I’m filled with wind facts of the day.
[0:07:57 – 0:07:58] Adam: Outgassing?
[0:07:58 – 0:08:00] Adam: Outgassing of the planetary chemicals.
[0:08:02 – 0:08:02] Adam: Cheers again.
[0:08:02 – 0:08:04] SPEAKER_01: Yes, you are filled with gas.
[0:08:05 – 0:08:06] Adam: You are filled with gas.
[0:08:08 – 0:08:14] Adam: I think I have a little bit better basic understanding of how wind actually works going into episode 118 here.
[0:08:16 – 0:08:27] Erik: Well, before we get to full-blown responses on bad, good, otherwise… We’re going to get into some R. Tumblehome cast responses tonight, are we not?
[0:08:27 – 0:08:28] Adam: That is what the main… That’s the plan, baby.
[0:08:28 – 0:08:32] Adam: That is the… What are you going to do?
[0:08:32 – 0:08:34] Erik: When do you want me to go here?
[0:08:34 – 0:08:35] Erik: You suggested I change up.
[0:08:36 – 0:08:36] Erik: I can’t.
[0:08:36 – 0:08:37] Erik: It is the meat.
[0:08:37 – 0:08:38] Erik: The meat of this show.
[0:08:40 – 0:08:43] Erik: The breakfast sizzling sausages on the griddle…
[0:08:45 – 0:08:50] Erik: is your responses to good, bad, otherwise wind experiences.
[0:08:50 – 0:08:57] Erik: But before we get there, I have to, because we missed out on this response from Bad Portages.
[0:08:58 – 0:09:04] Erik: I just scrolled right past it in the email chain, and it would be a horrible…
[0:09:05 – 0:09:26] Erik: move on our part to not read this reply and the ps from this reply is one that i can’t believe we went three episodes without talking about and this is from evan friend of the show uh contributor to our arguably drunkest episode with the dragon’s milk beer
[0:09:26 – 0:09:27] Erik: I don’t remember that one.
[0:09:28 – 0:09:29] Adam: Which one was it?
[0:09:29 – 0:09:30] Erik: You don’t, eh?
[0:09:30 – 0:09:31] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:09:31 – 0:09:35] Erik: We were on the porch of the Studio A. Oh, it’s a Studio A episode.
[0:09:35 – 0:09:36] Adam: Those are always a fun time.
[0:09:36 – 0:09:38] Erik: Yeah.
[0:09:38 – 0:09:39] Erik: Sounds of nature, Eric.
[0:09:39 – 0:09:40] Erik: Sounds of nature.
[0:09:40 – 0:09:40] Erik: Intoxicating.
[0:09:41 – 0:09:41] Erik: Yeah.
[0:09:41 – 0:09:48] Erik: I think we ended up with some Irish pub music that you thought was Spanish music right away.
[0:09:48 – 0:09:48] Erik: Yeah.
[0:09:49 – 0:09:50] Adam: Calypso, I think.
[0:09:50 – 0:09:51] Adam: This is Calypso?
[0:09:51 – 0:09:54] Erik: Yeah, that’s basically what that genre of music is.
[0:09:54 – 0:09:57] Erik: It’s an Irish-Mexican infusion.
[0:09:57 – 0:10:00] Adam: That music, it’s the same thing that drives wind.
[0:10:01 – 0:10:03] Adam: It’s the same thing that drives that genre.
[0:10:03 – 0:10:03] Erik: Yeah.
[0:10:04 – 0:10:06] Erik: It’s all the instruments of the world.
[0:10:07 – 0:10:07] Erik: Evan, thank you.
[0:10:08 – 0:10:09] Erik: Sorry we missed you.
[0:10:09 – 0:10:16] Erik: But, Evan has to say, my brother was leading a Boy Scout trip with two other adults and six scouts.
[0:10:17 – 0:10:19] Erik: Both of the other adults had bad backs.
[0:10:20 – 0:10:23] Erik: So my brother carried all four canoes from Cherry to Hanson.
[0:10:24 – 0:10:29] Erik: The portage is a steep 66-rod uphill trudge with almost no down at the end.
[0:10:30 – 0:10:33] Erik: If you are counting, that is seven trips across the portage.
[0:10:34 – 0:10:34] Erik: Do the math.
[0:10:35 – 0:10:36] Erik: I’m not doing seven times 66.
[0:10:38 – 0:10:44] Erik: On a day trip from Little Saginaw to Maymay, we took the southernmost portage directly into Elton.
[0:10:45 – 0:10:46] Erik: I have done this portage, Evan.
[0:10:47 – 0:10:49] Erik: I know right what you’re talking about.
[0:10:49 – 0:10:52] Erik: There’s an option to do one long one or two short ones.
[0:10:53 – 0:10:59] Erik: My daughter carried the white Mintoo, and my grandnephew and I carried paddles and snacks.
[0:10:59 – 0:11:05] Erik: The portage started off fine, but it quickly became apparent that it had not been recently maintained.
[0:11:06 – 0:11:07] Erik: Maymay!
[0:11:08 – 0:11:08] Erik: Maymay.
[0:11:08 – 0:11:14] Erik: Yeah, you get up into the woods, like you climb out of Little Sag, and then all of a sudden you’re just like up in the woods, and it’s like, where do we go?
[0:11:15 – 0:11:22] Erik: In fact, it was so overgrown that I could only occasionally catch a glimpse of the canoe through the bushes and trees.
[0:11:23 – 0:11:26] Erik: Most of the time, I had to look down at my feet to see if I was still on the trail.
[0:11:27 – 0:11:31] Erik: When we got to Elton, my daughter carefully set the canoe in the water and turned to me and said, What was that?
[0:11:32 – 0:11:36] Erik: On the return trip back to Little Sag, we took the two short portages to the north.
[0:11:37 – 0:11:41] Erik: Yes, that is the, at this point, recommended route.
[0:11:43 – 0:11:50] Erik: Thanks, Evan, for that experience, that relaying of the experience, but most especially for this PS.
[0:11:51 – 0:11:51] Erik: PS.
[0:11:52 – 0:11:59] Erik: Which is, don’t forget to mention the V Portage over by Trail Lake on the Laos River.
[0:12:00 – 0:12:02] Erik: This is an experience not to be missed.
[0:12:03 – 0:12:03] Erik: Oh, is that the one?
[0:12:04 – 0:12:04] Erik: That’s the one.
[0:12:05 – 0:12:05] Erik: Yeah.
[0:12:06 – 0:12:07] Erik: We didn’t really talk about it.
[0:12:07 – 0:12:17] Erik: We talked about it when we talked about our trip on the Laos River, but I don’t think it came up on any of the Portage episodes about that insane, like essentially canyon crossing.
[0:12:18 – 0:12:19] Adam: It’s at least a mild crevasse.
[0:12:20 – 0:12:26] Erik: It is a crevasse with a like Charlie Brown Christmas tree pine that is the only thing that keeps you from sliding down the river.
[0:12:27 – 0:12:29] Adam: That tree is a thousand years old.
[0:12:29 – 0:12:30] Adam: It just gets pulled on too much.
[0:12:31 – 0:12:31] Adam: It can’t grow.
[0:12:31 – 0:12:32] Erik: Yeah.
[0:12:32 – 0:12:32] Adam: It’s got deep roots.
[0:12:33 – 0:12:33] Adam: Yeah.
[0:12:33 – 0:12:34] Adam: Put all my energy in the roots.
[0:12:34 – 0:12:34] Erik: Yeah.
[0:12:36 – 0:12:41] Adam: And shout out to the, I believe it was a shout out to a gel coat.
[0:12:42 – 0:12:43] Erik: Yeah, a Whiteman too.
[0:12:43 – 0:12:46] SPEAKER_01: I would assume that has to be a gel coat.
[0:12:46 – 0:12:47] Adam: Gel coats.
[0:12:48 – 0:12:50] Adam: Getting the job done up in May May.
[0:12:51 – 0:12:52] Erik: Up in May May.
[0:12:54 – 0:13:14] Erik: So we’re going to forego any other additional correspondence, any other Tumble Homecast, our Tumble Homecast Reddit posts to get right into the readings because we’ve got a lot ahead of us tonight in the form of this episode on its own and…
[0:13:15 – 0:13:21] Erik: the Tumble Home Cinema Classics, which I think is going to take longer than we’re expecting, so we’re going to get right into responses.
[0:13:22 – 0:13:27] Erik: But I can assure you, there are some fun things happening on the subreddit.
[0:13:27 – 0:13:31] Erik: Specifically, the Coglins video.
[0:13:32 – 0:13:38] Erik: If you haven’t been on there, get on the subreddit, watch the video, share your thoughts and comments.
[0:13:38 – 0:13:40] Erik: And we’ll talk about it next week.
[0:13:40 – 0:13:41] Adam: We’ll have to talk about that next week.
[0:13:41 – 0:13:42] Adam: We got to just be strong.
[0:13:43 – 0:13:43] Adam: We’re going to talk about it next week.
[0:13:44 – 0:13:44] Adam: Got to wait.
[0:13:44 – 0:13:45] Adam: Got to be patient.
[0:13:45 – 0:13:47] Erik: So we talked about our experiences.
[0:13:47 – 0:13:50] Erik: And again, thank you to Andy at Tuscarora.
[0:13:50 – 0:14:03] Erik: You added, I would say, the bulk of the content from last week’s episode in the form of your experiences up at the end of the trail, specifically the 99 blowdown.
[0:14:03 – 0:14:06] Adam: Yeah, I just re-listened to the story from the big wind.
[0:14:06 – 0:14:07] Adam: Yeah.
[0:14:07 – 0:14:15] Adam: I forgot the small detail of that they had the instant Kraft macaroni and cheese for lunch, which was new at the time, but terrible.
[0:14:15 – 0:14:20] Adam: It was like somehow I missed that little comment the first time through.
[0:14:21 – 0:14:31] Adam: But yeah, overall, really just on the edge of your seat kind of story from the good man at Tuscarora and friend of the show.
[0:14:31 – 0:14:31] Adam: Thank you.
[0:14:32 – 0:14:33] Erik: Yes, thank you very much.
[0:14:34 – 0:14:45] Erik: So, we are still talking essentially the more or less broad question of generally harrowing experiences.
[0:14:47 – 0:14:49] Erik: with wind on the Boundary Waters waters.
[0:14:51 – 0:14:52] Erik: Do you have a group protocol?
[0:14:53 – 0:14:55] Erik: How have you handled this in the past?
[0:14:56 – 0:14:58] Erik: And just, you know, general wind thoughts.
[0:14:59 – 0:15:06] Erik: The questions of the week have gotten a little bit more subtle over the years, not so exact as they used to be.
[0:15:06 – 0:15:12] Erik: So I am looking forward to reading some of the responses in terms of wind experiences.
[0:15:12 – 0:15:13] Erik: Do you want to start with
[0:15:14 – 0:15:18] Adam: Yeah, these questions are more of a Kandinsky than a Norman Rockwell these days.
[0:15:18 – 0:15:18] Erik: Exactly.
[0:15:19 – 0:15:20] Erik: That is exactly how I would put it.
[0:15:20 – 0:15:21] Erik: I’ll start.
[0:15:21 – 0:15:25] Adam: We’re at the top there with… Have beer, we’ll paddle six points.
[0:15:26 – 0:15:26] Adam: Welcome to the show.
[0:15:27 – 0:15:34] Adam: My first trip to Quetico, we were dropped off on Hook Island in Big Sag with a 30-mile-per-hour southeast.
[0:15:35 – 0:15:41] Adam: There were hefty rollers coming up the lake as we set out, and I could not imagine going broadside to the wind crossing to the north shore.
[0:15:42 – 0:15:46] Adam: So we made for American Point, which was straight on into the wind and waves.
[0:15:47 – 0:15:52] Adam: We got there wet and rattled and basically gave up for the day because there’s no way we were going across to Cache Bay.
[0:15:53 – 0:16:01] Adam: So we camped illegally on American Point, drank a lot of wine, and really didn’t care that we didn’t have a permit for BWCA because what the heck else were we supposed to do?
[0:16:02 – 0:16:08] Adam: Our only options would have been to camp on Hook Island, which was no longer an option once we headed out, or paddle directly into the wind and
[0:16:09 – 0:16:17] Adam: along the entirety of the South Shore until we got out of the rollers and then cut across to Cache Bay, which would have been no picnic itself.
[0:16:17 – 0:16:19] Adam: I still don’t regret that decision.
[0:16:19 – 0:16:21] Adam: Call me an outlaw if you must.
[0:16:21 – 0:16:21] Adam: I won’t.
[0:16:22 – 0:16:23] Erik: No?
[0:16:23 – 0:16:25] Adam: Thank you for the comments and the story.
[0:16:25 – 0:16:27] Adam: I don’t think I would call you an outlaw.
[0:16:27 – 0:16:29] Erik: I think I would call you sensible.
[0:16:29 – 0:16:30] Erik: Yeah, sensible.
[0:16:30 – 0:16:32] Erik: The only question I have…
[0:16:33 – 0:16:59] Erik: would be the logistics not the logistics but the uh i don’t know what the word is i don’t know how i said the the description of what you were dealing with doesn’t necessarily fit with what a 30 mile per hour southeast wind yeah it sounds more like it was southwest yeah because if it was southeast you got dropped off at american point you’d probably just
[0:17:00 – 0:17:03] Erik: Yeah, it would still be scary, but it wouldn’t have been blowing at you.
[0:17:04 – 0:17:05] Erik: It would have been a tailwind.
[0:17:06 – 0:17:06] Adam: Just saying.
[0:17:06 – 0:17:11] Adam: Maybe this is one of those things where it’s like, is it the direction the wind’s blowing or the direction it’s coming in from?
[0:17:11 – 0:17:12] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:17:12 – 0:17:20] Adam: Either way, you’re never going to catch me making fun of somebody for not paddling into Cache Bay when it’s 30 mile an hour or whatever.
[0:17:21 – 0:17:22] Erik: 30 mile per hour, whatever.
[0:17:22 – 0:17:23] Adam: Yeah, 30 mile an hour.
[0:17:23 – 0:17:25] Adam: You had me at 30 mile an hour.
[0:17:25 – 0:17:26] Adam: It doesn’t matter what direction it’s coming from.
[0:17:26 – 0:17:27] Adam: I’m not going into Cache Bay.
[0:17:28 – 0:17:29] Adam: That’s the end of that.
[0:17:29 – 0:17:34] Erik: That might be the first leading candidate to oust fresh breezes.
[0:17:34 – 0:17:35] Adam: Fresh breeze.
[0:17:35 – 0:17:38] Erik: It’s going to be 30 mile per hour, whatever.
[0:17:38 – 0:17:38] Erik: 30 mile an hour.
[0:17:38 – 0:17:39] Adam: Or whatever.
[0:17:40 – 0:17:41] Adam: I’m not going.
[0:17:41 – 0:17:42] Adam: I’m not going.
[0:17:42 – 0:17:44] Adam: I’m not going into, gosh darn, Cache Bay, not again.
[0:17:44 – 0:17:47] Adam: Or it could just be Loon Bleep Cache Bay.
[0:17:47 – 0:17:47] Adam: Yeah.
[0:17:48 – 0:17:49] Adam: Or the Briny Deep.
[0:17:50 – 0:17:50] Erik: Or the Briny Deep.
[0:17:50 – 0:17:53] Adam: Whatever you do when you’re paddling in the wind, don’t harm the seabirds.
[0:17:54 – 0:17:57] Erik: Whatever you do, leave those juvenile loons alone.
[0:17:57 – 0:17:59] Erik: They’ll make their way down to Nolens.
[0:17:59 – 0:18:00] Erik: They’ll figure it out.
[0:18:00 – 0:18:02] Erik: They’ll make their way down there.
[0:18:02 – 0:18:03] Erik: Bird.
[0:18:04 – 0:18:05] Erik: Ogging it.
[0:18:06 – 0:18:09] Erik: Which I feel like we should start correcting.
[0:18:09 – 0:18:11] Erik: There’s only one D. Birdoggin.
[0:18:11 – 0:18:12] Adam: It’s birdoggin it.
[0:18:13 – 0:18:14] Adam: I thought maybe we had an alternate account.
[0:18:15 – 0:18:16] Erik: Wow, yeah.
[0:18:16 – 0:18:16] Erik: Maybe there is.
[0:18:18 – 0:18:20] Erik: A deep fake for birdoggin it.
[0:18:20 – 0:18:20] Erik: Oh, no.
[0:18:22 – 0:18:24] Erik: It’s happening at the lowest levels.
[0:18:24 – 0:18:25] Erik: Grassroots deep fakes.
[0:18:26 – 0:18:27] Erik: Thank you, birdoggin it.
[0:18:27 – 0:18:28] Erik: Six points.
[0:18:28 – 0:18:32] Erik: I have one story and one shameless product plug.
[0:18:33 – 0:18:35] Adam: Oh, I love a good product plug.
[0:18:36 – 0:18:37] Erik: Yeah, and you know us.
[0:18:37 – 0:18:43] Erik: We have not read these, so if you want to slip in free advertising… Yeah, just write whatever you want.
[0:18:44 – 0:18:44] Adam: We’ll read it.
[0:18:44 – 0:18:45] Erik: We’ll read it.
[0:18:46 – 0:18:48] Erik: Although I’ve only been windbound twice…
[0:18:49 – 0:18:54] Erik: The video that spawned this question of the week shows one of those moments.
[0:18:54 – 0:18:58] Erik: The hairiest ride occurred courtesy… That was in parentheses, sorry.
[0:18:59 – 0:19:05] Erik: The hairiest ride occurred courtesy of the big lake they call All Sink You Sag.
[0:19:06 – 0:19:09] Erik: We were headed out of the park and barely made it to American Point.
[0:19:10 – 0:19:16] Erik: Once there, we found more than 10 people standing on shore watching massive rollers and not knowing what to do.
[0:19:17 – 0:19:19] Erik: I was content waiting it out, but my paddle partner…
[0:19:20 – 0:19:25] Erik: was a rookie who was freaking out about getting out on time so her family wouldn’t worry.
[0:19:25 – 0:19:32] Erik: After 30 minutes of dealing with her rising anxiety, I said, loon bleep it, and we made our move.
[0:19:33 – 0:19:41] Erik: To date, it was the dumbest thing I’ve ever done in a canoe and involved her crying in fear while paddling air every other stroke.
[0:19:42 – 0:19:42] UNKNOWN: Hmm.
[0:19:43 – 0:19:47] Erik: Somehow, we made it to the landing at Trails End just as Etobo was heading out.
[0:19:47 – 0:19:52] Erik: They said they received multiple reports of people dumping and had to go try and rescue them.
[0:19:53 – 0:19:55] Erik: Apparently, we started a horrific chain of events.
[0:19:56 – 0:19:57] Erik: Oh no.
[0:19:57 – 0:19:58] Erik: Hell, they’re gone.
[0:19:58 – 0:19:59] Erik: We’ll go too.
[0:19:59 – 0:20:06] Erik: At this point, I must say that Outfitters are some of the most selfless and patient people I’ve ever encountered and deserve way more credit than they deserve.
[0:20:06 – 0:20:15] Erik: Asterisk, side note, that Gail and I are no longer together and my wife is a seasoned pro who would never have put us in that situation.
[0:20:15 – 0:20:16] Erik: So have that going for me.
[0:20:17 – 0:20:18] Erik: Which is nice.
[0:20:18 – 0:20:20] Erik: Here comes the product plug.
[0:20:20 – 0:20:38] Erik: I get a lot of curious looks for paddling a 16-foot prospector, but that boat and its crazy amount of rocker has afforded us the ability to safely navigate a ton of windy situations that leave the normal Northwind and Min 2 crews on the shore.
[0:20:38 – 0:20:39] Erik: Hmm.
[0:20:41 – 0:20:42] Adam: It’s all about that rocker, you know.
[0:20:43 – 0:20:46] Erik: A bit of a smug shrug from my podcasting partner there.
[0:20:47 – 0:20:49] Adam: It was a curious shrug at best.
[0:20:50 – 0:20:51] Adam: Maybe.
[0:20:51 – 0:20:52] Adam: I’ve never paddled one.
[0:20:52 – 0:20:52] Erik: Yeah.
[0:20:53 – 0:20:54] Erik: Well, I love the…
[0:20:55 – 0:20:57] Erik: I don’t love it, but it’s funny in retrospect.
[0:20:57 – 0:21:00] Erik: Like all of these stories with wind, the…
[0:21:03 – 0:21:06] Erik: The horrific chain of events that you started.
[0:21:06 – 0:21:08] Erik: Hey, they’re all going.
[0:21:08 – 0:21:09] Adam: They’re going.
[0:21:09 – 0:21:10] Adam: They’re doing fine.
[0:21:10 – 0:21:11] Adam: See, they passed Englishman’s Island.
[0:21:11 – 0:21:12] Adam: They’re doing fine.
[0:21:12 – 0:21:13] Adam: Yeah.
[0:21:13 – 0:21:14] Adam: Let’s go.
[0:21:14 – 0:21:14] Adam: Yeah.
[0:21:14 – 0:21:15] Adam: No, yeah.
[0:21:15 – 0:21:17] Adam: This has been a horrible mistake.
[0:21:18 – 0:21:23] Adam: I’m surprised we haven’t ever run into a bunch of waylaid folk on American Point.
[0:21:23 – 0:21:25] Adam: We’re always way too into the shoulder season.
[0:21:25 – 0:21:28] Erik: Yeah, I would say it’s probably a common occurrence.
[0:21:28 – 0:21:33] Adam: I bet you just see a whole yard sale of people in there all the time playing pass the pigs and waiting it out.
[0:21:34 – 0:21:34] Adam: Be smart.
[0:21:36 – 0:21:43] Erik: It almost seems like it’s at the point where it needs to be designated as a drop point and dispersed campground.
[0:21:43 – 0:21:44] Erik: Slash group campground.
[0:21:44 – 0:21:50] Erik: Because every time I’ve been dropped off there, it’s always just like, geez, this is just kind of like a… Yeah, it looks like a campsite.
[0:21:50 – 0:21:51] Erik: It’s wide open.
[0:21:51 – 0:21:51] Erik: Yeah.
[0:21:52 – 0:21:53] Adam: Plenty of hammock potential.
[0:21:53 – 0:21:54] Erik: Very used.
[0:21:57 – 0:22:05] Erik: I’ll read the next one here just because we had another, you know, cheap underscore dancer.
[0:22:07 – 0:22:08] Erik: Joke response.
[0:22:09 – 0:22:10] Erik: Oh, that’s cool.
[0:22:11 – 0:22:12] Adam: I’m glad I haven’t seen it then.
[0:22:12 – 0:22:13] Erik: I’m going to be surprised.
[0:22:14 – 0:22:20] Erik: Paddle partner generated wind in the tent has caused spontaneous bouts of stargazing.
[0:22:24 – 0:22:26] Adam: This is another plug for hammocking, I think.
[0:22:26 – 0:22:28] Erik: I think, yeah, yeah.
[0:22:29 – 0:22:30] Erik: I think it’s a fart joke.
[0:22:30 – 0:22:40] Adam: Winds are commonly classified by their spatial scale, their speed, the types of force that cause them, the regions in which they occur, and their effect.
[0:22:41 – 0:22:43] Erik: That’s been another wind fact.
[0:22:44 – 0:22:45] Adam: Wind facts.
[0:22:47 – 0:22:47] Adam: All right.
[0:22:47 – 0:22:48] Adam: I’m up next.
[0:22:48 – 0:22:49] Adam: You are up next.
[0:22:49 – 0:22:50] Adam: I’m charged up.
[0:22:50 – 0:22:51] Adam: Oh, I’m charged up.
[0:22:51 – 0:22:54] Adam: Nuclear Woodpecker is next on the show with four points.
[0:22:54 – 0:22:56] Adam: Thank you for your response.
[0:22:56 – 0:22:57] Adam: I’m a lake.
[0:22:57 – 0:22:59] Adam: It was September 11th, 2007.
[0:23:00 – 0:23:03] Adam: I camped on the island on the south end of the lake with one rookie partner.
[0:23:04 – 0:23:07] Adam: At the time, I was inexperienced with paddling in high winds as well.
[0:23:08 – 0:23:14] Adam: The next morning, we paddled over to the Shield Rock on the northeast shore and bushwhacked all the way back to Sedative Lake.
[0:23:15 – 0:23:16] Adam: Sedative?
[0:23:18 – 0:23:18] Adam: Yeah, sure.
[0:23:20 – 0:23:24] Adam: We were back there a few hours and all hell broke loose.
[0:23:24 – 0:23:27] Adam: Winds from the north exceeding 40 miles per hour.
[0:23:27 – 0:23:29] Adam: We started hearing trees fall around us.
[0:23:30 – 0:23:35] Adam: We scampered back to Ima and found our canoe nearly 100 feet down the shore from where we left it.
[0:23:36 – 0:23:41] Adam: The lake was all churning whitecaps and waves were crashing against those sheer rock walls by the southeast portage.
[0:23:42 – 0:23:46] Adam: Unfortunately, all of our gear was on the island, so we had to get there.
[0:23:47 – 0:23:50] Adam: We were scared that if we tried to paddle much at all, we would capsize.
[0:23:51 – 0:23:57] Adam: We made the decision to cross over the small channel and make our way to the west side of that cove by the Reflection Lake portage.
[0:23:58 – 0:24:02] Adam: We positioned ourselves almost directly upwind from the island and launched.
[0:24:02 – 0:24:07] Adam: The plan was to drift with the waves and just rudder slightly to steer and pray.
[0:24:08 – 0:24:13] Adam: Any paddling would have been pure idiocy as rocking the canoe would allow water over the gunwales.
[0:24:13 – 0:24:16] Adam: Actually, being in a canoe at all was pure idiocy.
[0:24:17 – 0:24:22] Adam: We eventually did hit the island with a few waves that just broke over the gunwales.
[0:24:22 – 0:24:26] Adam: A couple of times my rookie partner attempted to paddle and I snapped at him.
[0:24:27 – 0:24:29] Erik: Don’t you paddle!
[0:24:30 – 0:24:32] Adam: I cursed in there if you didn’t hear the loon bleep.
[0:24:33 – 0:24:37] Adam: It blew all night, but we were just glad we didn’t go in the drink.
[0:24:38 – 0:24:41] Adam: I haven’t been that scared in any watercraft before or since.
[0:24:42 – 0:24:44] Adam: I also don’t base camp on islands anymore.
[0:24:44 – 0:24:48] Adam: It’s crazy to think that a lake that is only about a mile across could get so rowdy.
[0:24:49 – 0:24:53] Adam: But it goes to show that any expanse of water can become a hazard.
[0:24:53 – 0:24:56] Adam: If you get enough wind from the right direction.
[0:24:57 – 0:24:58] Adam: Thank you.
[0:24:58 – 0:24:58] Adam: Well written.
[0:24:59 – 0:25:00] Adam: I’ll allow the cursing.
[0:25:00 – 0:25:03] Adam: It was asterisked out on there.
[0:25:05 – 0:25:07] Adam: Sounds a little scary.
[0:25:07 – 0:25:08] Adam: I don’t know about the idea of drifting.
[0:25:10 – 0:25:10] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:25:11 – 0:25:11] Adam: And just ruddering.
[0:25:12 – 0:25:12] Adam: I guess it worked out.
[0:25:13 – 0:25:14] Adam: Yeah, no, it’s always…
[0:25:14 – 0:25:16] Adam: Sometimes you got to improvise.
[0:25:16 – 0:25:17] Adam: Obviously, like downstream…
[0:25:17 – 0:25:18] Adam: I wasn’t there and you were.
[0:25:18 – 0:25:23] Erik: Yeah, downstream, not the best decision to make.
[0:25:23 – 0:25:30] Erik: But if you’re just going with the wind and that’s what makes you feel like you can control yourself the safest, then yeah, do it.
[0:25:31 – 0:25:31] Erik: Do it.
[0:25:33 – 0:25:38] Erik: Walmart brand, LaBonga.
[0:25:38 – 0:25:39] Adam: Friend of the show.
[0:25:39 – 0:25:40] Erik: Friend of the show.
[0:25:41 – 0:25:47] Erik: This spring I entered SAG for a solo trip and had to fight my way through Whitecaps all morning.
[0:25:47 – 0:25:56] Erik: Rounding Long Island and seeing the main body of the lake blowing like Gitche Goomey in November, I made haste for the site on the north shore of the island.
[0:25:56 – 0:25:58] Erik: Found some nice firewood and had to set up…
[0:25:59 – 0:26:18] Erik: and around noon in the middle of cooking a hot pocket over the fire yeah all right i spotted a large silhouette tracking east it was moving slowly and i was curious so i walked out to the edge of the little cove and saw two people floating along with their capsized canoe
[0:26:19 – 0:26:29] Erik: Fortunately, they were able to make land farther down the island, so I crawled across shore to check on them.
[0:26:30 – 0:26:37] Erik: They managed to not lose any of their gear and gave me the thumbs up, said they were going to head back to the car and regroup.
[0:26:37 – 0:26:39] Erik: Be careful out there, folks.
[0:26:40 – 0:26:47] Erik: The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead when the skies of November turn gloomy.
[0:26:49 – 0:26:52] Erik: Truer words were never sung.
[0:26:53 – 0:26:59] Erik: They also said that they would have made Whitefish Bay had they put 15 more miles behind her.
[0:27:01 – 0:27:03] Adam: And it was too rough to feed you.
[0:27:07 – 0:27:12] Adam: Coming up next on Tumble Home is a good friend of the show, Ghost of Ed Abbey.
[0:27:13 – 0:27:13] Adam: Three points.
[0:27:15 – 0:27:18] Adam: Nothing very bad yet, just really difficult.
[0:27:18 – 0:27:23] Adam: Worst was straight into a headwind of whitecaps on the long, skinny funnel of Daniel’s Lake.
[0:27:24 – 0:27:39] Adam: Wouldn’t have been that bad, but it was my at-the-time 7-year-old and 5-year-old boys plus gear in the canoe, so despite best efforts to trim, still had the bow too high and not much power generating from the front, despite the 7-year-old’s best efforts.
[0:27:40 – 0:27:44] Adam: We just stayed really close to the shore, like only deep enough that the paddle wasn’t hitting rocks.
[0:27:45 – 0:27:48] Adam: The wind turned us beyond recovery several times.
[0:27:48 – 0:27:54] Adam: Into shore wasn’t bad, but away from shore, I just had to back paddle into the shore, reset, and start over.
[0:27:55 – 0:28:03] Adam: My wife was in the solo canoe paddling with a double blade and holding straight, but at times not moving forward and maybe moving backwards.
[0:28:03 – 0:28:11] Adam: That’s what happens when you don’t break camp early in the morning and still think the exit day schedule dictates instead of actual conditions.
[0:28:13 – 0:28:17] Adam: I’ve only been truly windbound for one full day, and that was in a mid-May trip into Gillis.
[0:28:18 – 0:28:21] Adam: No chance that we were risking it in the cold, cold water.
[0:28:22 – 0:28:26] Adam: Luckily, it just burnt a fishing day, so we weren’t tempted to test our luck.
[0:28:28 – 0:28:31] Erik: Yeah, that was one thing we didn’t talk about that much last week.
[0:28:31 – 0:28:50] Erik: But I’m sure at this point, it’s hard for us to… With the responses we get from people who are… We’re grateful for the responses, but it seems like they’re from people that have some experience.
[0:28:51 – 0:28:52] Erik: But we’re always…
[0:28:54 – 0:29:00] Erik: I feel like introducing concepts and ideas to first timers, people planning trips.
[0:29:01 – 0:29:08] Erik: So it’s always kind of a balance as to whether or not like, you know, how, how in depth do you want to get, how newbie do you want to be?
[0:29:09 – 0:29:21] Erik: But like, we didn’t really talk last week about like, yeah, if you’re out there and it is windy and it is especially shoulder season time, um, the importance of maintaining a proximity to shorelines, um,
[0:29:22 – 0:29:23] Erik: That’s huge.
[0:29:23 – 0:29:39] Erik: Like in case something happens, I don’t want to be out like there’s there’s nothing more stressful than being out in a situation when the water is cold and the wind is up and you’re you’ve got to make a move across big open water.
[0:29:39 – 0:29:46] Adam: Yeah, I think we’ve talked about the cone of safety in relation to, like, lightning strike potential staying close in the shore.
[0:29:46 – 0:29:49] Adam: But I’m not sure that’s a thing.
[0:29:49 – 0:29:52] Adam: But for sure with the wind, the shore is a cone of safety.
[0:29:53 – 0:29:55] Erik: A proximity of safety in case of…
[0:29:57 – 0:29:58] Adam: We’re just needing to take a break.
[0:29:59 – 0:30:00] Erik: We’re just needing to, hey, all right, fine.
[0:30:00 – 0:30:01] Erik: We can just start.
[0:30:01 – 0:30:03] Erik: Let’s just hang on to a tree branch here or whatever.
[0:30:03 – 0:30:13] Adam: That was one of the stories I was going to tell that I don’t know if I’ve really told on the podcast before, but it was like a solo paddle out of Little Caribou back to Clearwater.
[0:30:14 – 0:30:15] Erik: I think you’ve talked about it off and on.
[0:30:15 – 0:30:25] Adam: I probably have, but that was one of the greatest tests of my arm I’ve ever encountered, and that was in my little solo Mad River that I had back in the day.
[0:30:26 – 0:30:51] Adam: and yeah i like hugged the shore because i i like legit was going backwards a bunch when it was really gusting and then just every once in a while i would just have to pull over and like stop and rest the arms because i could not stop paddling or i would get blown sideways out into the lake yeah uh yeah that was a real trying uh test of uh at the time i was not as seasoned of a paddler either and
[0:30:51 – 0:30:55] Adam: I made it out, but yeah, it was patience and like kind of crawling up along the shoreline.
[0:30:56 – 0:30:59] Adam: I never got to the point where I had to like just get out and walk the shoreline, but I’ve heard of that.
[0:30:59 – 0:31:05] Erik: No, that was the video that started this whole conversation was people basically walking a shoreline.
[0:31:05 – 0:31:05] Erik: Yeah.
[0:31:06 – 0:31:11] Erik: Which is, at the end of the day, probably it’s safer for sure, depending on the water temperature.
[0:31:12 – 0:31:13] Erik: But it’s definitely not easier.
[0:31:13 – 0:31:16] Adam: It’s not really a walk in the park usually either on these lakes.
[0:31:17 – 0:31:17] Erik: No, not at all.
[0:31:17 – 0:31:20] Erik: It’s rocky shorelines, especially on this side.
[0:31:21 – 0:31:23] Erik: Like, that’s an ankle-breaking nightmare.
[0:31:23 – 0:31:25] Erik: But, yeah, I would say…
[0:31:27 – 0:31:39] Erik: Eye out the map and take your best and straightest course as best you can, staying as close to shore as possible.
[0:31:40 – 0:31:44] Erik: And it probably sounds like common sense to most people, but we’re throwing it out there.
[0:31:47 – 0:31:50] Erik: Hopalicious July 2016.
[0:31:51 – 0:31:51] Erik: Brule Lake.
[0:31:52 – 0:31:55] Erik: Not just any weekend of July 2016.
[0:31:56 – 0:31:58] Erik: It was that weekend of July 2016.
[0:32:01 – 0:32:07] Erik: A friend, his seven-year-old son, and I are fishing the bays on the far east side of Brule.
[0:32:08 – 0:32:13] Erik: It was really nice out when we left our campsite, which was about a mile from where we currently fished.
[0:32:14 – 0:32:17] Erik: The trees blocked the western sky, so we did not see the weather coming.
[0:32:20 – 0:32:23] Erik: At one point, one of us looked up and said, hey, look at that.
[0:32:25 – 0:32:33] Erik: The mood changed quickly from let’s catch another 12-inch smallie to we need to get out of here.
[0:32:33 – 0:32:38] Erik: Now, the bay was close to glass, and just outside of the bay, it certainly was not.
[0:32:39 – 0:32:41] Erik: This was a serious situation.
[0:32:41 – 0:32:47] Erik: The lake was angry, and we had about a mile paddle west straight into a westerly wind.
[0:32:48 – 0:32:49] Erik: That’s not good.
[0:32:49 – 0:32:50] Erik: That’s not good.
[0:32:50 – 0:32:52] Erik: We paddled hard and made slow, steady progress.
[0:32:53 – 0:33:00] Erik: I can still remember the sound of the front of the canoe as it slapped down on the lake after traversing another wave.
[0:33:01 – 0:33:05] Erik: The squirming and shifting seven-year-old did not make the paddle any easier.
[0:33:07 – 0:33:08] Erik: Sit.
[0:33:08 – 0:33:08] Erik: Sit.
[0:33:09 – 0:33:09] Erik: Sit.
[0:33:10 – 0:33:11] Erik: I’m sorry.
[0:33:11 – 0:33:12] Erik: That’s uncalled for.
[0:33:13 – 0:33:15] Erik: That you were guiding that one time out on Clearwater?
[0:33:15 – 0:33:16] Adam: Yeah, Eddie.
[0:33:16 – 0:33:17] Adam: Was it Eddie?
[0:33:17 – 0:33:19] Adam: I shouldn’t disclose actual names.
[0:33:19 – 0:33:20] Erik: Or was it Bobby?
[0:33:22 – 0:33:23] Adam: Maybe it was the origin of Bobby.
[0:33:23 – 0:33:24] Adam: Maybe it was.
[0:33:24 – 0:33:24] Adam: Just sit down.
[0:33:25 – 0:33:27] Erik: And then we ran into him like a year later in Grand Marais.
[0:33:27 – 0:33:28] Erik: Yes.
[0:33:28 – 0:33:29] Erik: Yeah, I think it was Bobby.
[0:33:30 – 0:33:31] Erik: The origin story of Bobby.
[0:33:32 – 0:33:40] Erik: Thankfully, Brule is really narrow here, so we were close to shore, but that benefit had its downside as it seemed to funnel the wind.
[0:33:40 – 0:33:42] Erik: Sometimes you get the little side wind, yeah.
[0:33:43 – 0:33:43] Erik: Little bouncers.
[0:33:43 – 0:33:48] Erik: Yeah, we eventually made it back, changed into dry clothes, and drank some much-needed alcohol.
[0:33:49 – 0:33:55] Erik: The rest of the night was spent listening to the weather radio talk of impending doom.
[0:33:55 – 0:34:00] Erik: The storm mostly missed us, but it hit other parts of the park hard.
[0:34:01 – 0:34:12] Erik: Yeah, I believe that 2016, I think, was the last year that there was some of those serious wind-associated deaths in the park.
[0:34:14 – 0:34:20] Erik: I think there’s been some lightning ones, but 2016 was a bad year for blowdown stuff.
[0:34:22 – 0:34:27] Erik: So, yeah, I’m glad you were able to make it out of that one, Hopalicious.
[0:34:27 – 0:34:27] Erik: Yes.
[0:34:27 – 0:34:32] Adam: Yeah, the interesting mention of the old ricochet winds off the shore.
[0:34:33 – 0:34:34] Erik: Wind seiche.
[0:34:34 – 0:34:37] Adam: Yeah, you get a little funny double.
[0:34:37 – 0:34:42] Adam: Yeah, that’s one thing I don’t know if we’ve touched on so far is when you’re getting wind from multiple directions when it’s windy.
[0:34:43 – 0:34:45] Erik: Yeah, we’ve talked about that on the Kasaka Quag.
[0:34:46 – 0:34:46] Adam: Yeah.
[0:34:46 – 0:34:49] Adam: Like quilt work of like…
[0:34:49 – 0:34:51] Adam: This is like not a cat’s paw.
[0:34:51 – 0:34:54] Adam: This is a tiger’s claw.
[0:34:54 – 0:35:05] Erik: It’s a tiger’s claw of like two different sets of essentially white caps coming together and like kissing and getting these like weird pyramid peak things.
[0:35:05 – 0:35:10] Adam: Yeah, this is like Bart the Bear just smacking the heck out of the water.
[0:35:10 – 0:35:10] Erik: Yeah.
[0:35:10 – 0:35:11] Adam: Doing the old swat.
[0:35:12 – 0:35:36] Adam: swat yeah it’s like the wind is the bear swat yeah well yeah that stuff will get you because you’re like you’re feeling it up front too another one how about this we haven’t really talked about this when you’re up top and you’re going into them and you’re just like you come up over the top of a big one and smash down we’re talking the mention of that noise it makes oh yeah but then when you smash down and it just takes water in big time
[0:35:36 – 0:35:43] Erik: Well, that was the first day on Kasaka Kwag when we portaged in from McAlpine or whatever.
[0:35:43 – 0:35:43] Erik: And it was like…
[0:35:44 – 0:35:46] Adam: Taking serious water up the front.
[0:35:46 – 0:35:51] Erik: We had to just push the canoe into a shoreline because we were taking on water.
[0:35:52 – 0:35:53] Adam: That’s an ill feeling.
[0:35:53 – 0:35:53] Adam: Yeah.
[0:35:54 – 0:35:56] Erik: Water is coming into the boat now.
[0:35:57 – 0:36:03] Erik: It’s not like… We were kind of moving forward, but the waves were so big that they were crashing over the sides of the Min-2.
[0:36:03 – 0:36:04] Erik: Yeah.
[0:36:05 – 0:36:06] Adam: Darn men twos.
[0:36:06 – 0:36:07] Adam: Mm-hmm.
[0:36:07 – 0:36:08] Adam: They’re too fast.
[0:36:08 – 0:36:09] Adam: Gotta get one of those prospectors.
[0:36:09 – 0:36:10] Adam: Yeah.
[0:36:11 – 0:36:14] Adam: Next up on the show, Gobi in my pants.
[0:36:15 – 0:36:15] Adam: Three points.
[0:36:17 – 0:36:22] Adam: paddling down Bailey Bay of Basswood Lake, and the wind was ripping out of the west.
[0:36:23 – 0:36:28] Adam: Waves were crashing on the shore, and we were white-knuckling it while we were barely making any headway.
[0:36:29 – 0:36:33] Adam: My paddling partner and I shouted options to each other and decided to head into shore and wait a bit.
[0:36:34 – 0:36:38] Adam: We got the canoe turned, but the waves on shore were bad.
[0:36:39 – 0:36:44] Adam: I was riding in the bow and we decided I should hop out when I thought it was safe and help the canoe in.
[0:36:44 – 0:36:47] Adam: This was both a good and bad decision.
[0:36:48 – 0:36:51] Adam: Timing a wave to exit the canoe still gives me a bad feeling.
[0:36:52 – 0:36:56] Adam: If I messed up everything, was going in the water and the canoe would be in serious peril on the rocks.
[0:36:57 – 0:37:02] Adam: Once in the water, I was intermittently soaked from my knees to my chest while holding the canoe.
[0:37:03 – 0:37:09] Adam: Me jumping out did make landing possibly, thankfully, so that was the good.
[0:37:10 – 0:37:12] Adam: Once ashore, we sat and we sat.
[0:37:13 – 0:37:18] Adam: We weren’t in camp or any camp, just a remote shoreline getting pounded by surf.
[0:37:18 – 0:37:22] Adam: We stayed there about two or three hours, and it calmed enough to head back out.
[0:37:24 – 0:37:28] Adam: while stuck in camp in high winds, happened this year on Lake 3, late July.
[0:37:28 – 0:37:33] Adam: I like to gather firewood and wood gnome the heck out of the place.
[0:37:34 – 0:37:47] Adam: Once that’s done, BSing while watching the lake usually happens, and sometimes if our tarp makes a windbreak, a game of hearts or canasta breaks out, and much cursing whenever someone says, I think it’s laying down.
[0:37:47 – 0:37:48] Adam: Ha ha!
[0:37:49 – 0:37:50] Adam: I think it’s laying down.
[0:37:50 – 0:37:50] Adam: Yeah.
[0:37:51 – 0:37:53] Adam: I think it’s letting up or I think it’s laying down.
[0:37:53 – 0:37:57] Adam: This is the best joke you can ever tell in camp on a windy day.
[0:37:57 – 0:37:58] Erik: I think I see some blue sky.
[0:37:59 – 0:37:59] Erik: Yeah.
[0:38:00 – 0:38:01] Adam: That’s a sucker hole, Bobby.
[0:38:01 – 0:38:02] Adam: It’s just a sucker hole.
[0:38:02 – 0:38:03] Adam: It’s not laying down.
[0:38:04 – 0:38:05] Adam: Oh, that’s great.
[0:38:11 – 0:38:15] Adam: A, Ruth and B. Do-do-do.
[0:38:17 – 0:38:19] Adam: Yeah, that’s a recent sponsorship chime.
[0:38:20 – 0:38:22] Erik: Yes, recent sponsorship.
[0:38:22 – 0:38:26] Erik: My wife and I were coming back from a day trip to Rose Falls with our two kids.
[0:38:27 – 0:38:32] Erik: Paddling across Duncan Lake, my son had just finished a packet of fruit snacks.
[0:38:34 – 0:38:43] Erik: When he lost grip on the wrapper, which he had tore into a dozen pieces in the afternoon, winds scattered them in all directions.
[0:38:44 – 0:38:48] Erik: My wife and I spent the next half hour chasing micro litter around the lake.
[0:38:49 – 0:38:53] Erik: Snacks have since been banned during winter, sorry, windy paddles.
[0:38:55 – 0:39:00] Erik: Yeah, or unbag the snacks into…
[0:39:00 – 0:39:01] Erik: In your pocket.
[0:39:01 – 0:39:03] Erik: Just put it right in the pocket of your Stolquist.
[0:39:03 – 0:39:04] Adam: Yeah, just loosely.
[0:39:04 – 0:39:06] Adam: Yeah, put that in the fruit snack den.
[0:39:06 – 0:39:28] Erik: fruit snack den or you can get some of those reusable like canvas beeswax containers of sorts that people are known to make and or sell we have been lucky but my late father-in-law was with a group on Lac La Croix returning after a 10 day trip trying to tough out high winds and
[0:39:29 – 0:39:32] Erik: They spent the day paddling hard.
[0:39:33 – 0:39:39] Erik: The group became so tired and disoriented that they got extremely lost and ended up in Canada.
[0:39:39 – 0:39:49] Erik: The weather didn’t let up for a few days and having run out of food, they panicked and ditched their canoes to hike a logging trail out before being picked up by a local.
[0:39:50 – 0:39:52] Erik: They were somewhere on an Indian reservation.
[0:39:52 – 0:39:54] Erik: Sounds like Negugan 40D.
[0:39:54 – 0:39:54] Erik: 25D.
[0:39:54 – 0:39:55] Erik: 25D.
[0:39:55 – 0:39:59] Erik: 40D is over in the British Columbia.
[0:40:00 – 0:40:08] Erik: It was his last trip after 40 years of Quetico BWCA trips, and he passed away from cancer shortly after.
[0:40:08 – 0:40:11] Erik: I never did get to sit down and recount his full story.
[0:40:12 – 0:40:22] Erik: For somebody who’s been out there for that long, 40 years, and had to ditch the canoes and hike to a logging trail, I am sure it was a necessary decision.
[0:40:23 – 0:40:30] Erik: And unlike LaCroix, seems like a very likely case that the wind can pick up there.
[0:40:32 – 0:40:38] Erik: To a point where, like we talked last week, you just can’t paddle anymore.
[0:40:39 – 0:40:40] Erik: And things need to happen.
[0:40:40 – 0:40:42] Erik: That’s a lack of chill out.
[0:40:42 – 0:40:43] Erik: Lack of chill.
[0:40:45 – 0:40:47] Erik: But at the same time, you know, how long can you just chill?
[0:40:48 – 0:40:55] Erik: Even like our longest chill points were like two days and it was still blowing and we were like, you know, let’s go.
[0:40:55 – 0:40:57] Adam: And we had plenty of fruit snacks.
[0:40:57 – 0:40:58] Erik: Plenty of fruit snacks.
[0:40:58 – 0:40:59] Erik: And rum.
[0:40:59 – 0:41:01] Erik: A little low on the boozes, though.
[0:41:01 – 0:41:02] Erik: A little low on that rum, though.
[0:41:03 – 0:41:04] Erik: I’m sobering up, guys.
[0:41:05 – 0:41:05] Erik: See this shake?
[0:41:06 – 0:41:07] Erik: That’s a heavy shake.
[0:41:08 – 0:41:08] Erik: Gotta paddle.
[0:41:13 – 0:41:16] Adam: Next up on the show, J. Fred, 17.
[0:41:17 – 0:41:17] Adam: Three points.
[0:41:20 – 0:41:20] Adam: I’m gonna have a little sip.
[0:41:22 – 0:41:23] Erik: Of the Saison DuPont.
[0:41:23 – 0:41:24] SPEAKER_01: Saison.
[0:41:25 – 0:41:27] Erik: I left all the chunks on the bottom for you.
[0:41:27 – 0:41:28] Adam: I think we’re good.
[0:41:28 – 0:41:31] Adam: The farm chunks are coming up in the second half of this show.
[0:41:32 – 0:41:41] Adam: A handful of years ago on Clearwater, a friend and I were heading back to site number six after fishing at Caribou, and the winds and whitecaps were in full force.
[0:41:42 – 0:41:47] Adam: It was sketchy getting across Clearwater, and we were glad to get back to our site without taking a soak.
[0:41:47 – 0:41:51] Adam: We proceeded to sit back and drink our whiskey for the rest of the afternoon.
[0:41:51 – 0:42:00] Adam: Then while cooking up our dinner, we heard a loud crack sound and looked over at a three-inch diameter tree that just went down next to my friend’s tent.
[0:42:01 – 0:42:03] Adam: Not a large tree, but still shook us up a little bit.
[0:42:03 – 0:42:10] Adam: The next morning, the winds were still howling, and after a long discussion, we decided to pack up and leave a day early.
[0:42:10 – 0:42:16] Adam: We had a tailwind back to Clearwater Lodge, but with the waves, it was still a nerve-wracking couple of days.
[0:42:18 – 0:42:20] Adam: Yeah, even a tailwind can be scary, Eric.
[0:42:20 – 0:42:23] Erik: Oh, I know all about a scary tailwind.
[0:42:23 – 0:42:26] Erik: We’ve had some terry sailwinds.
[0:42:27 – 0:42:29] Erik: Some scary tailwinds out there.
[0:42:29 – 0:42:30] Adam: Shout out to Scary Terry.
[0:42:30 – 0:42:32] Adam: You’ve got to come through for me this weekend, buddy.
[0:42:32 – 0:42:33] Adam: Come on.
[0:42:33 – 0:42:34] Erik: You’ve got to.
[0:42:34 – 0:42:39] Erik: Sometimes it’s not all about running and hiding, but maybe just actually hiding.
[0:42:41 – 0:42:42] Erik: Yeah.
[0:42:42 – 0:42:51] Adam: I don’t know about leaving the day early, but I guess I’d rather leave a day early, and then if it doesn’t work out, you still have a day.
[0:42:51 – 0:42:58] Erik: The one that comes to mind for sure is that exit from north into south into Rose, Duncan.
[0:42:59 – 0:43:00] Erik: Yeah, the swan day.
[0:43:00 – 0:43:01] Erik: Yeah.
[0:43:01 – 0:43:02] Erik: Where they snuggies.
[0:43:02 – 0:43:04] Erik: In a full, you know, yeah.
[0:43:05 – 0:43:05] Erik: I think they’re swans.
[0:43:05 – 0:43:10] Erik: They were definitely swans that day that we got essentially blown away.
[0:43:11 – 0:43:15] Erik: One of the heaviest tailwind days I’ve ever experienced on some of those bigger lakes.
[0:43:15 – 0:43:17] Adam: That was one where the canoes make a noise for sure.
[0:43:17 – 0:43:17] Erik: Yeah.
[0:43:18 – 0:43:21] Erik: But those swans, that was how long ago?
[0:43:21 – 0:43:22] Erik: Almost 10 years ago now?
[0:43:22 – 0:43:23] Erik: Sure.
[0:43:23 – 0:43:29] Erik: I don’t know what the story is, but that area, the rat tail.
[0:43:29 – 0:43:30] Adam: No, it’s the rose stem.
[0:43:30 – 0:43:31] Erik: The rose stem.
[0:43:32 – 0:43:34] Adam: We’ve discussed this rat should be named Root Lake.
[0:43:35 – 0:43:35] Erik: Yes.
[0:43:36 – 0:43:36] Adam: Anyways.
[0:43:36 – 0:43:39] Erik: But there are swans there almost every time I go through.
[0:43:40 – 0:43:41] Erik: It’s the swans domain.
[0:43:41 – 0:43:43] Erik: I don’t know what, but I don’t see swans anywhere else.
[0:43:43 – 0:43:44] Erik: They love that area.
[0:43:45 – 0:43:53] Erik: I don’t know if it’s the same swans, how long swans live, or if there’s something about that kind of habitat that just attracts.
[0:43:54 – 0:43:57] Erik: It’s only always just one couple of swans.
[0:43:57 – 0:43:57] Erik: They’re always there.
[0:43:57 – 0:43:58] Adam: That’s their section.
[0:43:59 – 0:44:01] Adam: Swans live to be at least 50.
[0:44:02 – 0:44:03] Adam: You heard it here first, folks.
[0:44:03 – 0:44:04] Adam: Check this on the fly.
[0:44:04 – 0:44:06] Adam: Yeah, I just Googled it.
[0:44:06 – 0:44:07] Adam: It says I’m right.
[0:44:07 – 0:44:14] Erik: If you want to almost guarantee a swan experience, paddle the West Bearskin to Gunflint route.
[0:44:16 – 0:44:16] Adam: There you go.
[0:44:16 – 0:44:17] Erik: Hit me with a wind fact.
[0:44:18 – 0:44:18] Adam: Wind fact.
[0:44:19 – 0:44:24] Adam: The strongest observed winds on a planet in the solar system occurred on… Do you want to guess it?
[0:44:24 – 0:44:27] Adam: Do you want to guess which planet has the highest winds?
[0:44:27 – 0:44:27] Adam: Jupiter.
[0:44:28 – 0:44:28] Adam: Wrong.
[0:44:28 – 0:44:29] Adam: It’s Neptune.
[0:44:29 – 0:44:30] Adam: How do they even know?
[0:44:30 – 0:44:32] Adam: Neptune spins the wrong way and it’s upside down.
[0:44:32 – 0:44:34] Erik: I thought that was Uranus.
[0:44:35 – 0:44:36] Adam: Nope, it’s Neptune.
[0:44:36 – 0:44:37] Adam: Well, I don’t know.
[0:44:37 – 0:44:39] Adam: Anyways, Neptune’s got the highest winds.
[0:44:39 – 0:44:39] Adam: Okay.
[0:44:39 – 0:44:42] Adam: Regardless of the axis of its rotation.
[0:44:42 – 0:44:43] Erik: 600 miles per hour.
[0:44:43 – 0:44:44] Adam: Doesn’t say, actually.
[0:44:44 – 0:44:45] Adam: What?
[0:44:45 – 0:44:48] Adam: It just says that’s the one that has the highest.
[0:44:48 – 0:44:49] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:44:49 – 0:44:51] Adam: I didn’t write these wind facts.
[0:44:51 – 0:44:51] Adam: I’m just reading them here.
[0:44:51 – 0:45:00] Erik: Well, I’m going to write J-T-A, Konuts, and then you get back to me in terms of the highest wind recorded on planet Earth.
[0:45:01 – 0:45:03] Erik: The only planet that matters is…
[0:45:03 – 0:45:05] Adam: Yeah, Neptune’s not a real planet.
[0:45:05 – 0:45:06] Erik: Make planet Earth great again.
[0:45:06 – 0:45:10] Erik: J… Taconuts.
[0:45:11 – 0:45:13] Erik: Or J-T-A-C-O-nuts?
[0:45:15 – 0:45:15] Erik: You be the judge.
[0:45:17 – 0:45:22] Erik: I was out in Quetico solo a few years ago camping on the island just south of Silver Falls.
[0:45:24 – 0:45:24] Erik: Huh.
[0:45:24 – 0:45:27] Erik: I never realized there was a campsite on that island.
[0:45:28 – 0:45:30] Erik: Hmm, that sounds like it would be a fun spot.
[0:45:31 – 0:45:31] Erik: Just south, though.
[0:45:31 – 0:45:33] Erik: That’s like above the falls.
[0:45:34 – 0:45:36] Erik: I’m going to look at a map and see where that island is.
[0:45:36 – 0:45:37] Erik: Sorry.
[0:45:37 – 0:45:39] Adam: You’ve got to get a nice map here in K2.
[0:45:39 – 0:45:41] Adam: That’s the only thing K2 is missing right now.
[0:45:41 – 0:45:41] Adam: Right here.
[0:45:41 – 0:45:42] Adam: You’ve got to get rid of this.
[0:45:42 – 0:45:43] Adam: Whoever took this picture.
[0:45:43 – 0:45:45] Adam: Get rid of that garbage picture.
[0:45:45 – 0:45:45] Adam: Who took this?
[0:45:46 – 0:45:47] Adam: They call this photography.
[0:45:47 – 0:45:47] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:45:48 – 0:45:49] Adam: You’re no Ansel Adams.
[0:45:49 – 0:45:49] Adam: No.
[0:45:50 – 0:45:57] Erik: It was fairly early in the day and a storm was brewing to the north and moving my direction.
[0:45:58 – 0:46:02] Erik: My plan that day was to cross Cache Bay and start a loop back towards Ely.
[0:46:03 – 0:46:08] Erik: I noticed there were no whitecaps on Cache, so I hurriedly jumped in my prism and took off.
[0:46:09 – 0:46:16] Erik: Once I got into the main part of the bay, I realized there were no whitecaps because the waves were so large.
[0:46:17 – 0:46:18] Erik: Maybe middle of windy ocean.
[0:46:18 – 0:46:19] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:46:20 – 0:46:21] Erik: Those are called swells.
[0:46:21 – 0:46:23] Erik: Those are swells, my friend.
[0:46:23 – 0:46:25] Erik: That they weren’t breaking into whitecaps.
[0:46:26 – 0:46:31] Erik: I started quartering the waves to minimize the amount of water I was taking on, but kept filling up.
[0:46:32 – 0:46:36] Erik: I also hit a very large… Wow, this is crazy.
[0:46:36 – 0:46:36] Erik: Sorry.
[0:46:37 – 0:46:42] Erik: I also hit a very large dead fish floating on the water, which nearly flipped me over.
[0:46:43 – 0:46:46] Adam: I’m like hugging my knees and shaking right now.
[0:46:46 – 0:46:46] Adam: I don’t like this.
[0:46:46 – 0:46:48] Erik: The wind has got me scared.
[0:46:48 – 0:46:51] Erik: I couldn’t imagine a huge barge of a fish comes out of nowhere.
[0:46:51 – 0:46:53] Adam: An old carcass involved.
[0:46:53 – 0:46:59] Erik: I somehow made it across absolutely shot because of how much focus and energy I used.
[0:46:59 – 0:47:01] Adam: Yeah, you’re shell-shocked.
[0:47:01 – 0:47:01] Adam: You’re wind-shocked.
[0:47:02 – 0:47:03] Erik: Yeah, wind shocked.
[0:47:03 – 0:47:09] Erik: I now have much more knowledge of how to size up waves and also realize big waves happen on big water.
[0:47:09 – 0:47:25] Erik: Yeah, but the complete absurdity and randomness of a very large dead fish getting in your way is, yeah, you can’t plan for that.
[0:47:27 – 0:47:29] Erik: Congrats on the safe crossing.
[0:47:31 – 0:47:34] Erik: Do you want to move on or do you got any wind facts for me?
[0:47:34 – 0:47:36] Adam: Yeah, I got a couple wind facts for you.
[0:47:36 – 0:47:37] Erik: Mount Washington.
[0:47:37 – 0:47:38] Adam: No.
[0:47:38 – 0:47:39] Adam: Well, yeah and no.
[0:47:40 – 0:47:40] UNKNOWN: Okay.
[0:47:40 – 0:47:49] Adam: That one was the fastest wind speed not related to a tornado ever recorded was during the passage of Tropical Cyclone Olivia.
[0:47:50 – 0:47:59] Adam: April 10th, 1996, an automatic weather station on Barrow Island, Australia registered a maximum wind gust of 253 miles an hour.
[0:48:00 – 0:48:00] Adam: Jeez.
[0:48:01 – 0:48:04] Adam: That’s 408 kilometers an hour.
[0:48:04 – 0:48:07] Adam: But yeah, I think the one for North America is Mount Washington.
[0:48:08 – 0:48:09] Adam: It’s…
[0:48:10 – 0:48:11] Adam: Let’s see here.
[0:48:11 – 0:48:17] Adam: April 12th, 1934 on Mount Washington Observatory, 231 miles an hour.
[0:48:17 – 0:48:17] Adam: Okay.
[0:48:17 – 0:48:19] Adam: It’s a gust to take all the dust.
[0:48:23 – 0:48:26] Erik: Yeah, that’ll rip your pants off.
[0:48:26 – 0:48:27] Erik: Yeah.
[0:48:28 – 0:48:31] Adam: Rip your pants off and turn them into a sport coat.
[0:48:32 – 0:48:34] Adam: Eagle 98 MN.
[0:48:34 – 0:48:36] Adam: Two points next on the show.
[0:48:37 – 0:48:39] Adam: Seek an alternate route when possible.
[0:48:39 – 0:48:41] Adam: I just came out of the park on Sunday.
[0:48:42 – 0:48:43] Adam: Sunday, Sunday.
[0:48:43 – 0:48:52] Adam: We were camped on South Arm of Knife and we were exiting at Voyager Canoe Outfitters in one day’s paddock.
[0:48:53 – 0:48:58] Adam: Winds were projected 5 to 15, with gusts of 25 out of the south.
[0:48:59 – 0:49:06] Adam: The winds showed up as we worked across Ogish, often forcing us to quarter into them and out of our way.
[0:49:07 – 0:49:15] Adam: As we wondered what Seagull was going to look like, we changed our plans and decided to portage into Seagull by way of Raj, instead of directly from Alpine.
[0:49:16 – 0:49:22] Adam: This allowed us to enter closer to the southern shore of Segal and avoid the north end of the lake with its open crossings.
[0:49:22 – 0:49:31] Adam: It was still dicey at times, but we were able to work across the bottom of the lake and then sneak up to the north side of Three Mile Island in order to reach the Segal River.
[0:49:32 – 0:49:33] Erik: Excuse me.
[0:49:34 – 0:49:34] Adam: Side note.
[0:49:35 – 0:49:37] Adam: I’d like to amend my worst portage answer.
[0:49:38 – 0:49:41] Adam: Oh, well, then I’m going to have to take another sip of this saison.
[0:49:41 – 0:49:42] Adam: Hold on, friend.
[0:49:42 – 0:49:43] Erik: Oh, we’re getting more.
[0:49:44 – 0:49:45] Erik: It’s not only the one response.
[0:49:45 – 0:49:47] Adam: See, they can put anything in here, and I’ll just read it.
[0:49:47 – 0:49:49] Erik: I was going to say, you could write anything in there.
[0:49:50 – 0:49:56] Adam: Side note, I’d like to amend my worst portage answer to the seagull into gull portage by trail’s end.
[0:49:56 – 0:50:02] Adam: 35 rods, I took three wrong turns and ended up in two different campsites before realizing I needed to follow the road.
[0:50:02 – 0:50:12] Adam: Ridiculous that it took 30 minutes to clear that portage and aggravating when we were close to finishing and getting a burger after a 17 and a half mile paddle.
[0:50:12 – 0:50:19] Adam: Worse yet, the other car cruised past Trail Center and I had to wait for Culver’s in Two Harbors to get that burger.
[0:50:19 – 0:50:21] Erik: What do you mean?
[0:50:21 – 0:50:22] Erik: How do you miss Trail Center?
[0:50:23 – 0:50:25] Adam: It’s a literal carnival out there.
[0:50:25 – 0:50:26] Adam: You can’t miss it.
[0:50:26 – 0:50:27] Adam: Somebody just…
[0:50:28 – 0:50:32] Adam: There’s ulterior motives and we’re not hearing the whole story on this burger missing.
[0:50:32 – 0:50:32] Adam: Yeah.
[0:50:33 – 0:50:35] Adam: That would be… Well, I don’t know.
[0:50:36 – 0:50:37] Adam: And what about the beer?
[0:50:37 – 0:50:38] Adam: You got to get a beer.
[0:50:38 – 0:50:39] Erik: Maybe not.
[0:50:39 – 0:50:41] Erik: Episode 125.
[0:50:41 – 0:50:46] Erik: What’s your after Boundary Waters beer slash burger stop?
[0:50:46 – 0:50:47] Erik: We’re talking…
[0:50:48 – 0:50:48] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:50:48 – 0:50:49] Erik: Are we?
[0:50:49 – 0:50:51] Erik: That actually sounds like it could be a fun conversation.
[0:50:51 – 0:50:51] Erik: Yeah, we’ll save that one.
[0:50:51 – 0:50:52] Adam: We’ll save that one.
[0:50:52 – 0:50:56] Adam: Somebody on here on the reply said they also missed that same ghost portage to Gull.
[0:50:57 – 0:50:57] Adam: Gotta watch out.
[0:50:57 – 0:50:59] Adam: You don’t want to end up in somebody’s campground.
[0:50:59 – 0:51:01] Adam: They think you’re a bear coming in there.
[0:51:01 – 0:51:04] Erik: That’s that weird portage that’s like in the Trails End campground.
[0:51:04 – 0:51:05] Erik: Yeah.
[0:51:05 – 0:51:05] Adam: Yeah, it is.
[0:51:06 – 0:51:07] Adam: It’s a weird one.
[0:51:07 – 0:51:08] Adam: It’s a weird one.
[0:51:08 – 0:51:09] Adam: Just take the road.
[0:51:11 – 0:51:12] Erik: Hockey.
[0:51:12 – 0:51:13] Erik: Oh, boy.
[0:51:16 – 0:51:18] Erik: Hockey epidemiologist.
[0:51:19 – 0:51:20] Erik: Yeah, wind fact to get you through.
[0:51:21 – 0:51:24] Erik: Hockey epidemiologist.
[0:51:24 – 0:51:25] Erik: There it is.
[0:51:25 – 0:51:25] Erik: I nailed it.
[0:51:25 – 0:51:26] Erik: Hockey epidemiologist.
[0:51:26 – 0:51:27] Erik: Hockey epidemiologist.
[0:51:27 – 0:51:29] Erik: Hockey epidemiology.
[0:51:29 – 0:51:35] Erik: I don’t have any exceptionally harrowing experiences with wind.
[0:51:37 – 0:51:44] Erik: One memorable story that comes to mind, though, was when I was leading a group of high schoolers across Lake 3 on our way back from Alice.
[0:51:45 – 0:51:49] Erik: The wind was coming hard out of the west, and we had three canoes doing very different things.
[0:51:50 – 0:51:52] Erik: That’s never a good thing.
[0:51:52 – 0:51:53] Adam: I shouldn’t laugh.
[0:51:54 – 0:51:58] Erik: One canoe wasn’t really able to make much forward progress at all.
[0:51:59 – 0:52:19] Erik: One with the paddling power of two Energizer bunnies that could paddle into the wind forever, and my canoe, which had a tiny girl who weighed less than 100 pounds soaking wet, and me, a 6’6″, 260-pound rugby player that could only move by paddling backwards into the wind.
[0:52:20 – 0:52:20] Erik: Wow.
[0:52:21 – 0:52:25] Erik: Eventually, we saw an open site, which we decided to stop at.
[0:52:25 – 0:52:36] Erik: However, the teenage boys in the Energizer bunny canoe had the listening skills and spatial awareness of teenage boys, so they didn’t realize we had stopped and kept paddling onward.
[0:52:36 – 0:52:37] Erik: They’ll figure it out.
[0:52:38 – 0:52:45] Erik: And that is the story of how I got to chase down a canoe across Lake 3, all while paddling backwards.
[0:52:46 – 0:52:48] Erik: Hey!
[0:52:48 – 0:52:49] Adam: Hey, come back!
[0:52:51 – 0:52:55] Erik: There isn’t anything much more frustrating than a single teenage boy.
[0:52:56 – 0:52:58] Erik: If there’s anything that is, it is a group of them.
[0:53:01 – 0:53:09] Erik: I don’t have much experience with them, but in some of the guiding experiences that I have, they can be frustrating…
[0:53:11 – 0:53:14] Erik: At the very least, some other words come to mind.
[0:53:14 – 0:53:17] Erik: Trying to get their attention to do things.
[0:53:18 – 0:53:19] Erik: Thanks for that story.
[0:53:20 – 0:53:22] Adam: I use the term bro a lot, man.
[0:53:23 – 0:53:24] Erik: Yeah, I speak their language.
[0:53:24 – 0:53:25] Adam: Hey, bro.
[0:53:25 – 0:53:26] Erik: Hey, bro.
[0:53:28 – 0:53:29] Adam: Come on back.
[0:53:29 – 0:53:30] Adam: Come on back.
[0:53:30 – 0:53:31] Adam: You want me to battle backwards?
[0:53:31 – 0:53:31] Adam: Yeah.
[0:53:31 – 0:53:32] Adam: Seriously, bro?
[0:53:33 – 0:53:34] Erik: Seriously, bro?
[0:53:34 – 0:53:37] Adam: Barb Spanik, next on the show with two points.
[0:53:39 – 0:53:41] Adam: Oh, I’d like to play Would You Rather.
[0:53:42 – 0:53:57] Adam: Assume it’s warm water season and you encounter some big headwinds from the northwest and are traveling due west on an already aggressive water at 7 a.m. Something like two to three foot rollers when crossing the widest bays of a big body of water.
[0:53:58 – 0:53:59] Adam: Maybe a big border lake.
[0:54:00 – 0:54:05] Adam: Assume you have a boat and a load that can optimally handle these conditions and two experienced paddlers.
[0:54:05 – 0:54:05] Adam: Do you?
[0:54:06 – 0:54:19] Adam: A, pick a line closer to the downwind side of the lake where the water is rougher and bigger and which will add mileage and hours to the day, but if swamping occurs, you only float for a little bit until landfall.
[0:54:19 – 0:54:34] Adam: Or do B, stay on the upwind side as long as possible in hopes of avoiding the worst water or worsening conditions, and then launch or ferry only when you geometrically have no other choice in order to reach your target.
[0:54:34 – 0:54:38] Adam: Praying you don’t swamp and spend all the day bobbing on a massive lake.
[0:54:40 – 0:54:40] Adam: Airbnb Eric.
[0:54:42 – 0:54:44] Erik: What were the original parameters again?
[0:54:45 – 0:54:51] Adam: So like you’re going northwest and you can either just like stay in the rough stuff, but you’re going to want to be on the south side eventually.
[0:54:52 – 0:54:58] Adam: Or do you, like, stay up on the gentle side and then have to eventually cross into some unknown conditions?
[0:54:58 – 0:55:05] Adam: Oh, so it’s essentially like— You stick close to the shore but in the waves, or do you, like, stay out of the wind but knowing you’re going to eventually have to cross?
[0:55:05 – 0:55:15] Erik: So I’d say essentially the question is, would you rather experience a longer period of intense headwinds versus— But in more safety.
[0:55:15 – 0:55:16] Erik: In more safety.
[0:55:16 – 0:55:17] Adam: Or have to eventually cross the unknown.
[0:55:17 – 0:55:18] Adam: Yeah.
[0:55:18 – 0:55:22] Erik: I would say if it is warm weather, I would go for that late crossing.
[0:55:22 – 0:55:25] Adam: I don’t know if they gave us a season.
[0:55:26 – 0:55:28] Adam: It did say, assuming it’s warm water.
[0:55:28 – 0:55:30] Erik: Warm water, yeah, I would go for that.
[0:55:30 – 0:55:30] Erik: Go for the crossing.
[0:55:30 – 0:55:32] Erik: Go for that side crossing.
[0:55:32 – 0:55:33] Adam: I vote the same.
[0:55:34 – 0:55:50] Erik: I would say any time cold water is involved, stay as close to the shore as possible, even if it comes down to like a basically just like little dotted line right next to the shoreline the entire length of the day, even if it adds miles to your day.
[0:55:50 – 0:55:51] Adam: Absolutely.
[0:55:51 – 0:55:53] Adam: I think we’re in agreement on both points.
[0:55:54 – 0:55:54] Adam: Yeah.
[0:55:55 – 0:55:58] Adam: And it says here, choose A or B and show your work.
[0:55:58 – 0:56:00] Adam: So I think we’ve shown our work.
[0:56:00 – 0:56:04] Adam: I think B in warm water and A in cold water.
[0:56:04 – 0:56:07] Adam: It’s said to assume warm water for this exercise.
[0:56:07 – 0:56:09] Adam: So we’re going with B. Yeah.
[0:56:10 – 0:56:16] Adam: When it’s warm, footloose, fancy free, I’ll deal with the repercussions of capsizing in warm water, whatever.
[0:56:16 – 0:56:17] Erik: It’ll just turn into a fun adventure.
[0:56:17 – 0:56:19] Erik: Do you need rollers, though?
[0:56:19 – 0:56:19] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:56:19 – 0:56:21] Erik: Well, I mean, you’re not going to die.
[0:56:21 – 0:56:22] Erik: Probably not.
[0:56:22 – 0:56:26] Erik: It’s 70 degrees out with 65, even 60 degree water.
[0:56:26 – 0:56:30] Erik: Yeah, you’d have to be out there for hours to really get in trouble.
[0:56:31 – 0:56:34] Erik: And yeah, it’ll be a pain, but I don’t know.
[0:56:34 – 0:56:36] Erik: I guess if it’s like…
[0:56:36 – 0:56:38] Erik: There should also be an option C, which is just like…
[0:56:40 – 0:56:41] Erik: Maybe not paddle at all.
[0:56:41 – 0:56:42] Adam: Bird dog and it chimed in and went with A.
[0:56:43 – 0:56:43] Adam: Always A.
[0:56:44 – 0:56:44] Erik: Always A.
[0:56:45 – 0:56:45] Erik: Stick with A.
[0:56:45 – 0:56:46] Adam: Play it safe.
[0:56:46 – 0:56:48] Adam: Well, you know.
[0:56:48 – 0:56:49] Adam: Yeah, I’m not sure.
[0:56:49 – 0:56:52] Adam: I’d say I’m like 90% B in this scenario, assuming warm water.
[0:56:54 – 0:56:55] Adam: Every situation’s different.
[0:56:55 – 0:56:56] Adam: How’s your arms feeling that day?
[0:56:57 – 0:56:59] Adam: Did you have a big breakfast?
[0:56:59 – 0:57:02] Erik: Is it, yeah, are you two weeks into a month-long trip?
[0:57:02 – 0:57:03] Adam: Yeah, or is this day one?
[0:57:03 – 0:57:06] Erik: You know, that was a lot of the experiences that we’ve recalled over the years.
[0:57:06 – 0:57:07] Erik: Yeah.
[0:57:07 – 0:57:11] Erik: Where it sounds like, yeah, well, boy, that sounds like a real dumb idea.
[0:57:11 – 0:57:17] Erik: Like we’d been in a canoe and paddling like pretty aggressively for two to three weeks at that point.
[0:57:17 – 0:57:21] Erik: And we had, you know, we had paddling arms on us.
[0:57:21 – 0:57:22] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:57:22 – 0:57:22] Adam: Yeah.
[0:57:22 – 0:57:27] Adam: When you’re like three days plus into a trip, you can do things you can’t do on day one.
[0:57:27 – 0:57:27] Erik: Yeah.
[0:57:27 – 0:57:33] Erik: And some of those Northern Quetico days that we had, those were like two plus week arms on us.
[0:57:34 – 0:57:40] Erik: And there was nothing that I didn’t feel like I was capable of, even though in retrospect, it probably was stupid.
[0:57:40 – 0:57:43] Erik: And we did end up having to call it early.
[0:57:43 – 0:57:47] Erik: But even the fact that we made it as far as we did on some of those days…
[0:57:48 – 0:57:50] Adam: We were fit and young, and we knew it.
[0:57:50 – 0:57:51] Erik: Yeah.
[0:57:51 – 0:57:57] Erik: Well, and some of those days, yeah, at this point now, I don’t paddle nearly as much as I used to.
[0:57:57 – 0:58:00] Adam: I felt like I could have paddled right across the portages on some of those days.
[0:58:00 – 0:58:00] Erik: Yeah.
[0:58:00 – 0:58:01] Erik: We’ll skip the portage.
[0:58:01 – 0:58:02] Erik: We will just paddle it.
[0:58:03 – 0:58:08] Adam: So, yeah, I would say in a final answer, I’d say 90% B, 10% A.
[0:58:09 – 0:58:09] Adam: Depends.
[0:58:10 – 0:58:10] Adam: Yeah.
[0:58:10 – 0:58:11] Adam: Nothing’s black and white.
[0:58:12 – 0:58:12] Erik: No, right.
[0:58:12 – 0:58:13] Erik: Exactly.
[0:58:15 – 0:58:16] Erik: We got the last comment here.
[0:58:17 – 0:58:18] Erik: On Tumble Homecast.
[0:58:20 – 0:58:21] Adam: Final comment of the show.
[0:58:22 – 0:58:23] Erik: It’s a fun subreddit.
[0:58:24 – 0:58:24] Erik: Printing, printing?
[0:58:25 – 0:58:25] Erik: Where are you at?
[0:58:25 – 0:58:26] Erik: Do you not like us anymore?
[0:58:26 – 0:58:27] Erik: Did we say something?
[0:58:27 – 0:58:29] Erik: We’re sorry.
[0:58:30 – 0:58:30] Erik: Come on back.
[0:58:30 – 0:58:33] Erik: Send me a personal message if that’s the case.
[0:58:33 – 0:58:34] Erik: I’d love to have you back.
[0:58:34 – 0:58:35] Erik: Are you just…
[0:58:36 – 0:58:39] Erik: Your team RBWCA at this point.
[0:58:39 – 0:58:40] Erik: That’s cool.
[0:58:40 – 0:58:40] Erik: That’s fine.
[0:58:40 – 0:58:42] Erik: There’s still good stuff happening there.
[0:58:42 – 0:58:46] Erik: We’re going to get into our Tumble Home Cinema Classics episode here in a second.
[0:58:46 – 0:58:50] Erik: You need to become a $5 patron to listen to us.
[0:58:50 – 0:58:54] Adam: Second straight movie in a row that features a Jeep Wagoneer?
[0:58:54 – 0:58:54] Adam: No.
[0:58:54 – 0:58:55] Adam: Yeah.
[0:58:55 – 0:58:55] Adam: Second of three.
[0:58:56 – 0:58:58] Adam: Third in a row that features Bart the Bear.
[0:58:58 – 0:59:00] Erik: Bart the Bear has been a key feature.
[0:59:01 – 0:59:07] Erik: We’re going to finally answer the question if you were on Team Twist or on Team Crumple when it comes to kindling.
[0:59:07 – 0:59:07] Erik: Ha!
[0:59:09 – 0:59:10] Adam: Oh, boy.
[0:59:10 – 0:59:11] Adam: Yeah, we sure are.
[0:59:11 – 0:59:14] Erik: But this last comment is from Maps and Maps.
[0:59:14 – 0:59:15] Erik: I like that username.
[0:59:15 – 0:59:16] Erik: I hate wind.
[0:59:17 – 0:59:17] Erik: Sounds like you.
[0:59:17 – 0:59:19] Erik: Is this your new username?
[0:59:20 – 0:59:20] Adam: It’s not me.
[0:59:21 – 0:59:21] Adam: I haven’t had too many.
[0:59:21 – 0:59:22] Adam: It does sound like something I would say.
[0:59:22 – 0:59:24] Adam: I hate wind, period.
[0:59:24 – 0:59:26] Adam: Plus, I love maps, so.
[0:59:26 – 0:59:26] Adam: And maps.
[0:59:26 – 0:59:27] Adam: And maps.
[0:59:27 – 0:59:28] Adam: Are you sure it’s not me?
[0:59:29 – 0:59:29] Erik: Hmm.
[0:59:29 – 0:59:46] Erik: maybe maybe i have had too many close calls and i know too many experienced paddlers who dumped and didn’t live to tell about it geez you know too many of them all right well um
[0:59:48 – 0:59:51] Erik: I don’t necessarily need to know more about that, but I would be interesting.
[0:59:52 – 0:59:58] Erik: It would be, I would be interested multiple experienced paddlers who have dumped and not been able to tell about it.
[0:59:58 – 0:59:59] Erik: Yikes.
[1:00:00 – 1:00:01] Erik: Um, that’s scary.
[1:00:02 – 1:00:02] Erik: Um,
[1:00:03 – 1:00:04] Erik: And that is really honestly the truth.
[1:00:04 – 1:00:13] Erik: I’m not questioning as to whether or not that’s the truth, but it’s scary that you’ve got many experienced paddlers that you know that have dumped like that.
[1:00:14 – 1:00:21] Erik: Which, again, at the end of the day, that is the true reality of the last two episodes.
[1:00:21 – 1:00:25] Adam: Yeah, that’s why you make the decision to sit put.
[1:00:27 – 1:00:28] Adam: Andy spoke about it.
[1:00:28 – 1:00:36] Erik: We speak about it in a frame that is, you know,
[1:00:37 – 1:00:38] Erik: We’re joking about it.
[1:00:38 – 1:00:46] Adam: I joke about going to the briny deep, but every time you make the decision to set off when it’s too windy like that, you know it’s in the back of your head.
[1:00:46 – 1:00:46] Erik: Yeah, it’s there.
[1:00:47 – 1:00:48] Erik: It’s very real.
[1:00:48 – 1:01:01] Erik: It’s very real to a certain extent, but it’s also weirdly not real when you make those decisions because there’s always a part of you that growing up, you always hear about how
[1:01:03 – 1:01:05] Erik: These teenagers, they think they’re invincible.
[1:01:05 – 1:01:07] Erik: I don’t think that ever really leaves people.
[1:01:07 – 1:01:10] Erik: There’s always a part of you that just thinks, well, it’ll never happen to me.
[1:01:11 – 1:01:12] Erik: It’ll never happen to me.
[1:01:13 – 1:01:15] Erik: And then all of a sudden, you’re that person.
[1:01:16 – 1:01:28] Erik: There’s no grand decision-making force out there that precludes you from being the next person besides your common sense and deciding this is a dangerous amount of wind that
[1:01:29 – 1:01:34] Adam: There’s a very fine line between confidence and foolishness sometimes.
[1:01:35 – 1:01:35] Erik: Yeah.
[1:01:36 – 1:01:45] Erik: Yeah, and so I think this is a good comment to end at here, which I think we should probably end on some semblance of seriousness.
[1:01:45 – 1:01:51] Erik: And that is, at the end of the day, we talk about wins, we talk about…
[1:01:54 – 1:02:17] Erik: bears we talk about wolves we talk about all of these things that are generally you know talked about and the most perceived in terms of like danger the highest danger things are the ones that are not actually the most dangerous the most fun to talk about dangerous aspects are like don’t get eaten by a bear
[1:02:19 – 1:02:21] Erik: The wolves, got to look out for those wolves.
[1:02:21 – 1:02:23] Erik: Liam Neeson and the wolves are going to come around.
[1:02:24 – 1:02:28] Erik: But at the end of the day, on a yearly basis, it’s the wind and the cold and the water.
[1:02:30 – 1:02:32] Erik: Wind and water is what kills people up here.
[1:02:32 – 1:02:36] Erik: So, yes, it’s fun to talk about.
[1:02:37 – 1:02:45] Erik: It’s a conversation that at the end of the day does, I think, end up lining on the more serious side.
[1:02:45 – 1:02:47] Erik: So take it seriously.
[1:02:48 – 1:02:51] Erik: Even though we’ve had some fun with it, we’re all still here to talk about it.
[1:02:52 – 1:02:58] Erik: But Maps and Maps has some experiences with paddlers who dumped and didn’t make it.
[1:02:58 – 1:03:01] Erik: And that is the harsh reality.
[1:03:02 – 1:03:14] Erik: And we don’t always like to end on like super serious notes, but honestly, we don’t talk about things that are pretty close to, as close to life and death in the Bodgewaters as wind is.
[1:03:15 – 1:03:21] Erik: But he finishes, or she, tailwinds are treacherous, especially as you meet the windward shore.
[1:03:22 – 1:03:23] Erik: To quote Eric…
[1:03:45 – 1:03:54] Erik: Which, yeah, again, one of the things we haven’t talked about as well as the winds in general is those tailwinds.
[1:03:54 – 1:03:56] Erik: And that happens at Clearwater a lot.
[1:03:56 – 1:03:57] Erik: People are down at the dock.
[1:03:57 – 1:03:58] Adam: What, you won’t set us out?
[1:03:58 – 1:03:59] Adam: We want to go to the Palisades.
[1:04:00 – 1:04:02] Erik: Well, I can see the trees.
[1:04:03 – 1:04:04] Erik: I can also…
[1:04:05 – 1:04:08] Erik: I know where to look to see the whitecaps out past the point.
[1:04:09 – 1:04:12] Erik: You’ll have a fine time if not…
[1:04:13 – 1:04:35] Erik: eventually even with a pretty rugged tailwind not fine time but eventually it will build up to a point that it’s going to be pretty treacherous going even with it at your back and that’s not even to take into account what turning around and coming back is going to be that’s the turning around often right that’s where you get you
[1:04:35 – 1:05:04] Erik: yeah and those tailwinds like we’ve talked about this on the show a little bit we’ve talked about it a lot just off the show like yeah like heavy headwinds yeah they almost more than anything else they just unless they start coming over the you know the they come into the canoe that’s when it gets dangerous but at least you know what you’ve got coming at you yeah exactly you can see what’s going on yeah when you start surfing
[1:05:06 – 1:05:12] Adam: Yeah, you kind of got to have that like… And then people want to just stop and kind of rudder, but that’s the most dangerous thing you can do.
[1:05:12 – 1:05:15] Adam: So you got to paddle harder to keep going with them.
[1:05:15 – 1:05:20] Adam: Otherwise, if they start lapping you, that’s when you get in a real tricky wicket.
[1:05:21 – 1:05:22] Erik: Yeah, no, I would tend to agree.
[1:05:23 – 1:05:31] Erik: And again, I know we’re flat water paddlers and we don’t pretend to be…
[1:05:33 – 1:06:03] Erik: whitewater experts or anything we’re not taking them into down the snake river but everything that i’ve ever basically at the very basic level learned about downwater paddling is you don’t just sit and rudder you need to basically stay moving through the water to be able to control your movement and that’s sort of the same thinking i have in terms of like heavy tailwinds in order to stay on top of where you you’re
[1:06:04 – 1:06:24] Adam: pointed you need to actually be paddling yeah like when you’re paddling into a big headwind you gotta paddle hard but i think you also when you’re in a big tailwind have to paddle real hard yeah oh yeah like you can’t let up there’s just you gotta take it to the wind you can’t let the wind take it to you that’s the there’s a balancing and a tipping point in both directions
[1:06:25 – 1:06:25] Erik: Exactly.
[1:06:25 – 1:06:31] Erik: But there is, I mean, at the end of the day, like there is like a, there’s a certain tailwind that you can just coast with.
[1:06:31 – 1:06:33] Erik: But we’re talking like… We’re talking when you’re surfing.
[1:06:33 – 1:06:34] Erik: Whitecaps.
[1:06:34 – 1:06:34] Erik: Yeah.
[1:06:34 – 1:06:35] Erik: Yeah, those are the ones…
[1:06:35 – 1:06:38] Adam: If you’re surfing them in too, you’re in some real swells, as they say.
[1:06:38 – 1:06:42] Erik: Yeah, you don’t just, I mean, yeah, you can, but I feel like it’s safer…
[1:06:43 – 1:06:45] Erik: than just sitting back and ruddering.
[1:06:46 – 1:06:46] Erik: Yeah.
[1:06:46 – 1:06:49] Erik: It might feel like a really easy decision to make.
[1:06:49 – 1:06:50] Erik: Hey, let’s just rudder.
[1:06:50 – 1:07:01] Erik: But that’s, I feel like when you get into those situations where you get turnt and then you flip and then it’s who knows what, where you are, what the time of the year is.
[1:07:03 – 1:07:04] Erik: Yeah, it can happen to anybody.
[1:07:04 – 1:07:11] Erik: So we’ve got a few responses to finish up with next week.
[1:07:14 – 1:07:20] Erik: From both Facebook and a couple of lengthy responses on the correspondence line.
[1:07:21 – 1:07:23] Erik: But we have to get out of here.
[1:07:23 – 1:07:26] Erik: We’ve got to get to John Candy.
[1:07:26 – 1:07:27] Erik: Dan Aykroyd.
[1:07:28 – 1:07:28] Erik: Man, that sweater.
[1:07:29 – 1:07:29] Erik: The twins.
[1:07:30 – 1:07:31] Erik: Not the twins.
[1:07:31 – 1:07:32] Erik: The mineshaft.
[1:07:32 – 1:07:33] Erik: The mineshaft.
[1:07:33 – 1:07:37] Erik: So many questions about how Wally makes money.
[1:07:38 – 1:07:38] Erik: Where does he work?
[1:07:39 – 1:07:40] Erik: Where does it take place?
[1:07:41 – 1:07:48] Erik: All of these answers and more will be answered in our upcoming Tumble Home Cinema Classics episode on The Great Outdoors.
[1:07:50 – 1:07:53] Erik: The question of the week still continuing to next week.
[1:07:55 – 1:07:55] Adam: Yeah.
[1:07:55 – 1:07:59] Adam: Hit us up on Tumble Homecast on Instagram with some responses.
[1:07:59 – 1:08:02] Adam: In the meantime, get in on this wind talk.
[1:08:02 – 1:08:06] Adam: You can still email or hit us up on Facebook.
[1:08:07 – 1:08:08] Adam: It’s still good for something.
[1:08:09 – 1:08:11] Erik: It’s still kind of good for something.
[1:08:11 – 1:08:15] Adam: And, you know, we’ll watch the Reddit.
[1:08:15 – 1:08:19] Adam: You know, if anybody gets in late on the Reddit, find time for it next week.
[1:08:19 – 1:08:20] Erik: We always watch the Reddit.
[1:08:20 – 1:08:22] Erik: That’s where we watch, I would say, the most.
[1:08:22 – 1:08:23] Erik: For sure.
[1:08:23 – 1:08:24] Erik: It’s the one we have the most.
[1:08:24 – 1:08:30] Erik: Not that I necessarily need the control, but I feel like it’s the one that, I don’t know.
[1:08:30 – 1:08:35] Erik: It’s the one that I can relate with the most.
[1:08:37 – 1:08:49] Erik: And going forward, we’re probably going to do a news recap, finish up, wind responses next week.
[1:08:51 – 1:08:54] Erik: Maybe a lake review this month.
[1:08:55 – 1:09:13] Erik: And then again, it seems like we have had enough of a response from a topic that kind of just seemed like it was there for a fun conversation that he didn’t really even think could ever be a thing.
[1:09:13 – 1:09:15] Erik: But there was enough of a response from it.
[1:09:15 – 1:09:30] Erik: And I think before we kind of close out this open water season and get into a little bit of a break, and we’ll explain what that will look like going forward, but there’s going to be latrine talk.
[1:09:32 – 1:09:38] Erik: Sometime in October, somebody brought up the fact that we review everything else.
[1:09:39 – 1:09:45] Erik: And it does kind of come down to, yeah, more or less a hygiene conversation.
[1:09:45 – 1:09:48] Erik: But we’re definitely going to be talking latrines.
[1:09:49 – 1:09:54] Erik: So if you’re an anti-social media user, now is the chance for you to send us emails on…
[1:09:55 – 1:10:22] Erik: best worst latrines what do you think what do you do do you leave your teepee at the trail up to the latrine do you bring everything up there and set it right next to it that is the most common place i find uh a trace is uh the little ziploc bag of toilet paper right next to the latrine easy to forget that thing up there yeah it sweeps the latrine trail when they’re packing up camp
[1:10:22 – 1:10:22] Erik: No.
[1:10:23 – 1:10:34] Erik: So yeah, it’s going to be… We’ll end the open water season of 2020 talking about the dumper.
[1:10:35 – 1:10:37] Erik: But we’re finishing on wind here.
[1:10:37 – 1:10:39] Erik: We’ll be back with a little bit more winds next week.
[1:10:39 – 1:10:43] Erik: Do you have any more wind facts before we get out of here?
[1:10:43 – 1:10:44] Adam: I got one more for you.
[1:10:44 – 1:10:45] Adam: Okay.
[1:10:45 – 1:10:49] Adam: The wind is also an important means of transportation for seeds and small birds, Eric.
[1:10:50 – 1:10:53] Adam: With time, things can travel thousands of miles.
[1:10:54 – 1:10:54] Adam: In the wind.
[1:10:55 – 1:10:56] Adam: All right.
[1:10:56 – 1:10:59] Adam: For Tumble Home, this has been episode 118.
[1:10:59 – 1:11:04] Adam: We’re talking wind and gentle breezes and all sorts of things.
[1:11:04 – 1:11:10] Adam: My name has been Adam, joined here in Studio K2 with The View by my good friend Eric.
[1:11:11 – 1:11:15] Adam: Thanks for having me over tonight, and I’m excited to get into the cinema.
[1:11:15 – 1:11:16] Adam: So we’re going to leave it there.
[1:11:16 – 1:11:19] Adam: Remember, folks, every day is precious.
[1:11:19 – 1:11:20] Adam: Life is a miracle.
[1:11:20 – 1:11:24] Adam: Happy paddling, and keep that bow into the wind.
[1:11:25 – 1:11:26] Erik: Thanks, Christian.
[1:11:26 – 1:11:28] Erik: We’re going to get into the heckin’ chonker here.
[1:11:28 – 1:11:33] Erik: It’s a peanut butter milk dud pastry with vanilla.
[1:11:35 – 1:11:37] Erik: Anyway, you’ll have to tune in to the Tumble Home Cinema Classics.
[1:11:38 – 1:11:39] Erik: Cue the woodwind instruments.
[1:11:39 – 1:11:41] Adam: You got any woodwinds lined up for us?
[1:11:50 – 1:11:57] Old Time Radio: The Atomic Energy Authority have announced that some uranium cartridges in the centre of the atomic pilot windscale became overheated yesterday.
[1:11:58 – 1:12:02] Old Time Radio: The Authority have said that staff are now reducing the temperature of the pile with water.
[1:12:03 – 1:12:11] Old Time Radio: At the moment, a northeast wind is blowing across the windscale factory and is taking any radioactive dust or vapour out to sea.