260: Bearable and Adequate

Episode Transcript

[0:00:15 – 0:00:16] UNKNOWN: Thank you.
[0:00:37 – 0:00:41] Adam: Welcome to Tumble Home Poundry Waters Podcast.
[0:00:41 – 0:00:42] Adam: My name is Adam.
[0:00:42 – 0:00:47] Adam: Joining me here tonight in the shed is Arrow the Husky and my dearest friend, Eric.
[0:00:47 – 0:00:48] Adam: Good evening, Eric.
[0:00:49 – 0:00:49] Adam: Good evening.
[0:00:50 – 0:00:50] Adam: Hello.
[0:00:50 – 0:00:51] Adam: Hello.
[0:00:51 – 0:00:56] Adam: It’s a beautiful evening here in the tumble shed, if I do say so myself.
[0:00:56 – 0:00:57] Erik: Yeah, it’s pretty nice.
[0:00:57 – 0:00:58] Erik: A little misty.
[0:00:58 – 0:00:59] Erik: A little foggy almost.
[0:00:59 – 0:01:01] Erik: A little foggy.
[0:01:02 – 0:01:03] Erik: Still kind of thick though.
[0:01:03 – 0:01:07] Erik: I wouldn’t say anywhere close to that little brush with fall we had last week.
[0:01:08 – 0:01:10] Adam: No, no.
[0:01:10 – 0:01:11] Adam: The rain was nice.
[0:01:11 – 0:01:13] Adam: It was kind of awful today, I would say.
[0:01:13 – 0:01:20] Adam: I was working in the yard a little, and it was kind of unknowingly humid, but not really hot.
[0:01:20 – 0:01:21] Adam: I don’t know what to say about it.
[0:01:21 – 0:01:22] Adam: It was very humid, though.
[0:01:23 – 0:01:23] Erik: Yeah, quite thick.
[0:01:24 – 0:01:27] Adam: And yeah, just enough mosquitoes still hanging around.
[0:01:27 – 0:01:29] Adam: We’re like, what are you guys doing still?
[0:01:29 – 0:01:29] Adam: Yeah.
[0:01:30 – 0:01:30] Adam: Come on.
[0:01:31 – 0:01:31] Adam: Grow up.
[0:01:32 – 0:01:35] Erik: We could use a nice little light frost maybe.
[0:01:35 – 0:01:35] Erik: Yeah.
[0:01:36 – 0:01:37] Erik: In the next couple of weeks.
[0:01:37 – 0:01:38] Erik: That’s what we need at this point.
[0:01:38 – 0:01:38] Erik: It is.
[0:01:40 – 0:01:41] Erik: They’re still out there, these warm nights.
[0:01:42 – 0:01:43] Adam: No, no, no.
[0:01:43 – 0:01:45] Adam: The garden disagrees with this call for frost.
[0:01:45 – 0:01:49] Adam: But we just need to get a little, not frosting, but just give me like some.
[0:01:49 – 0:01:50] Adam: Some cooler nights.
[0:01:50 – 0:01:51] Adam: Yeah, some cool nights.
[0:01:52 – 0:01:54] Adam: Some warm nights are really unbearable right now.
[0:01:54 – 0:01:56] Erik: Yeah, the bugs love it, though.
[0:01:56 – 0:01:56] Adam: Man.
[0:01:56 – 0:01:58] Adam: Yeah, they can hang around.
[0:01:58 – 0:02:00] Adam: I saw a couple weird dragonflies, at least.
[0:02:00 – 0:02:02] Adam: They’re thriving.
[0:02:03 – 0:02:04] Erik: Good, good.
[0:02:04 – 0:02:05] Adam: Yes.
[0:02:05 – 0:02:06] Adam: I saw a weird little red one.
[0:02:07 – 0:02:08] Adam: Jackie Breezer.
[0:02:08 – 0:02:09] Adam: Was it a breezer?
[0:02:11 – 0:02:35] Adam: what are some of the other ones uh galley nippers no galley nippers is the ones we don’t like those are the skeeters yeah jackie breezers that’s what we call them yeah the best only the best here at the tumble shed yeah i got uh i got a one more olympic question for you oh we got a dabble we got any more olympic in you
[0:02:35 – 0:02:37] Erik: No, I mean, they’re over.
[0:02:38 – 0:02:43] Adam: Yeah, I know, but we haven’t gotten to talk, though, about the breakdancing, though.
[0:02:43 – 0:02:44] Adam: Oh, right, yes.
[0:02:44 – 0:02:52] Erik: I’m not 100% sure what was going on there, but I do exist in the world of the internet, so clearly something happened.
[0:02:52 – 0:02:57] Adam: I was changing the oil today on the vehicles and the snowboard.
[0:02:58 – 0:03:05] Adam: I was doing some moves on the garage floor trying to emulate Ray Gun, my new hero.
[0:03:06 – 0:03:07] Erik: Yeah.
[0:03:08 – 0:03:09] Erik: I’ve seen some of the memes.
[0:03:09 – 0:03:09] Erik: Yeah.
[0:03:10 – 0:03:11] Erik: Pretty funny stuff, I guess.
[0:03:11 – 0:03:12] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:03:12 – 0:03:16] Erik: I was like, I still don’t really know what the story is.
[0:03:16 – 0:03:17] Erik: Was it serious?
[0:03:18 – 0:03:19] Erik: Was it a troll move?
[0:03:19 – 0:03:21] Adam: No, it was serious, Eric.
[0:03:21 – 0:03:21] Adam: Yeah.
[0:03:22 – 0:03:42] Adam: it’s just like a left shark scenario she just got out there and like it’s a little bit like left shark i guess i’m here now i don’t know exactly what i’m doing yeah uh so i did a little reading on it because you know everybody everybody’s out there has seen it at this point uh you know i couldn’t do that routine so i’m not gonna throw too much shade at ray gun
[0:03:42 – 0:03:43] Erik: I mean, it is the Olympics, though.
[0:03:44 – 0:03:44] Adam: Yeah.
[0:03:44 – 0:03:46] Adam: I like that breakdancing was in the Olympics.
[0:03:46 – 0:03:49] Adam: I like that that’s the only performance anybody saw.
[0:03:49 – 0:03:52] Adam: So I purposely went and looked at some of the medal winners.
[0:03:53 – 0:03:54] Adam: It’s incredible what they can do.
[0:03:55 – 0:03:59] Adam: It absolutely takes a lot more talent and athletic ability than some of the other sports.
[0:04:00 – 0:04:07] Adam: It’s unfortunate that the worst dancer in the Olympics got all the attention, but that’s the internet in 2024, of course.
[0:04:07 – 0:04:07] Adam: Mm-hmm.
[0:04:09 – 0:04:11] Adam: I don’t think it’s going to be in Los Angeles.
[0:04:11 – 0:04:15] Adam: They pretty much already announced that breakdancing will not be in Los Angeles.
[0:04:16 – 0:04:17] Adam: They’re getting rid of it already?
[0:04:17 – 0:04:19] Adam: Disc golf won’t be in there either, I looked.
[0:04:20 – 0:04:21] Adam: They already made the announcement.
[0:04:21 – 0:04:22] Adam: Something like what’s out and what’s in.
[0:04:22 – 0:04:23] Adam: Pickleball?
[0:04:23 – 0:04:24] Adam: No pickleball either.
[0:04:24 – 0:04:25] Adam: They’re bringing baseball back.
[0:04:26 – 0:04:26] Erik: Who cares?
[0:04:27 – 0:04:29] Adam: Throw the heater, Tommy.
[0:04:30 – 0:04:31] Erik: Why are they doing that?
[0:04:31 – 0:04:32] Erik: I don’t know, because it’s in America?
[0:04:32 – 0:04:34] Erik: I guess, but I don’t know.
[0:04:34 – 0:04:39] Erik: It’s just like baseball season’s going on when they do the Olympics, so it screws everything up.
[0:04:39 – 0:04:43] Adam: Yeah, I doubt they’ll let the major leaguers play then.
[0:04:43 – 0:04:44] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:04:44 – 0:04:45] Adam: Yeah, I mean, then what’s the point?
[0:04:46 – 0:04:47] Adam: It’ll be a College World Series games.
[0:04:47 – 0:04:51] Erik: I don’t need to see a bunch of like, I mean, that’s what the rest of the Olympics is, I guess.
[0:04:51 – 0:04:58] Erik: But you know, you very clearly know that it’s not the best in the world against the other best in the world people.
[0:04:58 – 0:04:59] Adam: What about the World Baseball Classic?
[0:04:59 – 0:05:01] Adam: I think that’s always before like the regular seasons.
[0:05:01 – 0:05:04] Adam: They actually get the major leaguers.
[0:05:04 – 0:05:05] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:05:05 – 0:05:07] Adam: The term major leaguers is funny to me for some reason.
[0:05:08 – 0:05:08] Erik: Yeah, I guess.
[0:05:08 – 0:05:09] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:05:09 – 0:05:10] Erik: I mean, that, I don’t know.
[0:05:10 – 0:05:13] Erik: How often do they even do that baseball classic thing?
[0:05:14 – 0:05:14] Adam: Good question.
[0:05:14 – 0:05:15] Adam: Every other year, maybe.
[0:05:16 – 0:05:18] Adam: I thought they just did one like, well, two years ago.
[0:05:19 – 0:05:19] Adam: Yeah.
[0:05:19 – 0:05:24] Erik: I know the NHL has dabbled with a World Cup of sorts, but there’s like not enough.
[0:05:25 – 0:05:48] Erik: players or there is but they gotta watch out for iceland yeah for whatever reason they limit it to like six countries yeah and then like the last time they did it it was like team like rest of europe oh yeah remember yeah wait what and then also team like young gun north america like players under 21 from north america sure
[0:05:48 – 0:05:51] Erik: It’s sort of like, okay, this is a little too gimmicky for me.
[0:05:51 – 0:05:56] Erik: It’s clearly not like, you don’t really get the scenario for an underdog.
[0:05:57 – 0:06:06] Erik: I guess Team Rest of Europe or whatever did pretty well the last time they did that, but I think they still lost to Canada or Russia maybe.
[0:06:06 – 0:06:06] Erik: I don’t even know.
[0:06:07 – 0:06:13] Erik: But if not all the countries with players that have a hockey program are involved, I don’t know.
[0:06:13 – 0:06:15] Erik: It just doesn’t really strike me as legitimate.
[0:06:15 – 0:06:17] Erik: At least the World Baseball Classic seems like it’s
[0:06:19 – 0:06:26] Erik: most countries that are interested in like competing that can get involved they got a good field yeah
[0:06:28 – 0:06:34] Adam: I heard a rumor that Ray Gunn had rigged the voting system.
[0:06:35 – 0:06:47] Adam: She personally determined how the judges score the competition and knew how to come up with the best routine to take advantage of the scoring parameters that nobody else understood or something.
[0:06:48 – 0:06:50] Adam: That’s how she got through out of Australia.
[0:06:50 – 0:06:50] Adam: Yeah.
[0:06:52 – 0:06:53] Adam: I looked into it, though.
[0:06:53 – 0:06:55] Adam: That was not true.
[0:06:55 – 0:07:01] Adam: She did qualify fair and square according to the competition that was held for qualifying.
[0:07:02 – 0:07:06] Adam: And Australia has a bunch of talented break dancers, apparently.
[0:07:06 – 0:07:19] Adam: But what happened, which is a little shady, according to my research, is that they were like, hey, it’s Friday, and qualifiers are going to be on Sunday in Brisbane.
[0:07:20 – 0:07:41] Adam: and you gotta like do steps 1 through 14 and like pay some money to get in and make it here by sunday and you know australia is a big country yeah and so it was like they made it like very difficult to enter the qualifying and like many of many of like the people who may have even considered competing like just straight up didn’t even know it was happening until it was over
[0:07:42 – 0:07:43] Adam: Oh, okay.
[0:07:43 – 0:07:48] Adam: So they didn’t have like the best and brightest of the break dancing.
[0:07:48 – 0:07:53] Adam: They didn’t have the, they call them the B girls and the B boys.
[0:07:54 – 0:07:54] Adam: Do they?
[0:07:55 – 0:07:58] Adam: That’s what the people that play break dancing get called, I guess.
[0:07:58 – 0:07:59] Adam: Play break dancing.
[0:08:00 – 0:08:00] Adam: Yeah.
[0:08:00 – 0:08:03] Adam: What I like, too, is everybody else is just wearing street clothes.
[0:08:04 – 0:08:07] Adam: Even the judges in the competition were kind of decked out.
[0:08:08 – 0:08:13] Adam: And then Ray Gunn showed up just wearing a track suit with the Australian colors.
[0:08:13 – 0:08:14] Erik: Very much representing Australia.
[0:08:16 – 0:08:17] Adam: So, I don’t know.
[0:08:17 – 0:08:20] Adam: Apparently she did get in, but it was a little shady.
[0:08:20 – 0:08:22] Adam: Their qualifying process was not the greatest.
[0:08:22 – 0:08:26] Adam: So, yeah, there’s videos out there of like, she lost to this lady?
[0:08:26 – 0:08:27] Adam: And they show her routine.
[0:08:27 – 0:08:30] Adam: She’s like spinning on her head, you know, doing the real moves.
[0:08:30 – 0:08:32] Erik: Well, she didn’t win any medals or anything.
[0:08:32 – 0:08:38] Adam: No, but I was going to read her Wikipedia page too, but I’m not going to because it’s kind of sad.
[0:08:38 – 0:08:38] Adam: She won.
[0:08:38 – 0:08:42] Adam: She lost every match she was in, and she didn’t gain one vote from any judge.
[0:08:43 – 0:08:46] Adam: She went 0-18 and was immediately booted from the competition.
[0:08:46 – 0:08:47] Adam: It’s like a one-on-one competition?
[0:08:47 – 0:08:54] Adam: Yeah, so you go one-on-one, and you go three rounds where you do some moves, and then you kind of snap and point at the other person, and they got to do some moves.
[0:08:55 – 0:08:56] Adam: You do that three times for the match.
[0:08:57 – 0:08:57] Adam: So…
[0:08:58 – 0:09:16] Adam: okay and then there’s nine judges or something so i don’t know you get like you know you the first to win two of the dance-offs wins the round okay that’s how it works i guess don’t uh hold me to that tumble homies i’m not actually an expert in break dancing if you couldn’t guess i’m not sure anybody’s too worried about it
[0:09:17 – 0:09:21] Adam: But yeah, she basically just couldn’t have done any worse.
[0:09:21 – 0:09:23] Adam: Got the lowest possible score of zero.
[0:09:24 – 0:09:26] Adam: And yeah, was immediately out of the competition.
[0:09:27 – 0:09:32] Adam: But yeah, apparently she’s being online bullied because of her weird moves.
[0:09:33 – 0:09:33] Erik: That’s too bad.
[0:09:33 – 0:09:34] Adam: Yeah, I know.
[0:09:34 – 0:09:38] Adam: Like I read one review of it and they’re like, she just has eclectic style.
[0:09:38 – 0:09:39] Adam: It’s like completely out of that field.
[0:09:40 – 0:09:43] Adam: Unlike anything anybody’s ever seen before on the B scene.
[0:09:43 – 0:09:43] Adam: Sure.
[0:09:44 – 0:09:46] Erik: The Jackson Pollock of break dancers.
[0:09:46 – 0:09:47] Erik: It’s true.
[0:09:47 – 0:09:48] Erik: It’s ahead of its time.
[0:09:48 – 0:09:50] Erik: You’ll understand later.
[0:09:50 – 0:09:51] Adam: Reagan got people talking.
[0:09:51 – 0:09:53] Adam: Yeah.
[0:09:53 – 0:09:53] Adam: Yeah.
[0:09:53 – 0:09:55] Adam: So, all right.
[0:09:55 – 0:09:55] Adam: That’s all I got.
[0:09:55 – 0:09:58] Adam: You got any other Olympic final thoughts before we get out of there?
[0:09:58 – 0:09:59] Erik: Final thoughts on the Olympics?
[0:09:59 – 0:10:00] Erik: No, I don’t know.
[0:10:00 – 0:10:05] Erik: Yeah, I think I only really watched about like the first four or five days worth.
[0:10:07 – 0:10:14] Erik: Yeah, I don’t know if there was too much more that I really remember that was too noteworthy for me.
[0:10:15 – 0:10:16] Adam: All right.
[0:10:17 – 0:10:18] SPEAKER_01: Wrapping up the Olympics, I guess.
[0:10:18 – 0:10:19] Adam: That’s it, then.
[0:10:19 – 0:10:21] Adam: That’s the end of the closing ceremonies.
[0:10:21 – 0:10:23] Adam: Fire the torch into the River Seine.
[0:10:23 – 0:10:25] Adam: We still haven’t seen the long-distance paddlers.
[0:10:25 – 0:10:27] Adam: They are lost out there somewhere.
[0:10:27 – 0:10:28] Adam: They’re in the darkness.
[0:10:28 – 0:10:30] Adam: The orcas may have gotten them.
[0:10:31 – 0:10:35] Adam: This is episode 260 of Tumble Home, a proud independent podcast.
[0:10:36 – 0:10:37] Adam: And thank you for listening.
[0:10:37 – 0:10:42] Adam: Shout out to our patrons for your continued support of the show.
[0:10:43 – 0:10:45] Adam: We got ourselves a bird of the week.
[0:10:46 – 0:10:50] Adam: I got two new birds this week after kind of being in a bird drought.
[0:10:50 – 0:10:54] Adam: I was sitting down on the beach behind the co-op on break the other day and a whole bunch
[0:10:55 – 0:11:00] Adam: Heard of semi-palmated sandpiper.
[0:11:01 – 0:11:02] Adam: Semi-palmated?
[0:11:02 – 0:11:03] Adam: Semi-palmated.
[0:11:04 – 0:11:07] Erik: Sounds like a bad oil that you shouldn’t ingest.
[0:11:07 – 0:11:13] Adam: That’s what happened when I changed the oil on the John Deere snowblower this morning.
[0:11:13 – 0:11:14] Adam: It was semi-palmated.
[0:11:14 – 0:11:15] Adam: Semi-palmated.
[0:11:15 – 0:11:16] Adam: Yeah, it was doing that thing.
[0:11:16 – 0:11:18] Adam: It’s probably a good thing you changed it.
[0:11:20 – 0:11:23] Adam: The semi-palmated sandpiper.
[0:11:23 – 0:11:25] Adam: I thought maybe they were leased sandpipers.
[0:11:25 – 0:11:28] Adam: I had to do a little bit of research because they’re not making a call.
[0:11:28 – 0:11:36] Adam: They’re standing from me to you away, a whole bunch of them just walking down the beach in single file and pecking at the pebbles.
[0:11:36 – 0:11:37] Erik: How many?
[0:11:38 – 0:11:40] Adam: There’s probably eight in the herd.
[0:11:40 – 0:11:41] Adam: The pack?
[0:11:42 – 0:11:44] Adam: Eight of them.
[0:11:44 – 0:11:46] Adam: There’s a couple more down the beach.
[0:11:46 – 0:11:48] Adam: That was kind of one of the clues.
[0:11:48 – 0:11:53] Adam: They’re not in huge flocks or anything, but they are in loose groupings.
[0:11:53 – 0:11:54] Adam: Loose groupings?
[0:11:54 – 0:11:55] Adam: That’s not the show title, Eric.
[0:11:56 – 0:11:56] Adam: No.
[0:11:58 – 0:12:02] Adam: Yeah, so that’s your bird of the week.
[0:12:02 – 0:12:03] SPEAKER_01: Pew, pew, pew, pew.
[0:12:04 – 0:12:06] Adam: Did you see the Tumble Home patch vote yet, Eric?
[0:12:08 – 0:12:08] Erik: I didn’t realize.
[0:12:09 – 0:12:12] Erik: Yeah, I mean, I saw it, but I didn’t know how official the vote was.
[0:12:12 – 0:12:14] Erik: Was it the most top upvoted comment?
[0:12:14 – 0:12:16] Adam: Well, no.
[0:12:16 – 0:12:20] Adam: Cheap Dancer made an actual voting form and posted a link.
[0:12:21 – 0:12:22] Adam: Very scientific.
[0:12:22 – 0:12:24] Adam: It’s like Tumble Tournament-esque.
[0:12:25 – 0:12:26] Erik: This was on the subreddit?
[0:12:26 – 0:12:30] Adam: I think the link is only posted in the Discord right now.
[0:12:30 – 0:12:33] Adam: Perhaps it’s on the subreddit as well.
[0:12:33 – 0:12:36] Adam: He had requested that perhaps you could post the link into the show notes.
[0:12:36 – 0:12:37] Adam: Nate, what do you think about that?
[0:12:38 – 0:12:40] Erik: Put me on the spot.
[0:12:40 – 0:12:41] Erik: You’d have to give me the link.
[0:12:41 – 0:13:01] Adam: i’ll send you the link because i don’t go on discord so yeah you should i’ll get you the link though i should go on discord is that what you’re saying i think you should i’ve seen enough uh forrest gump waving memes and gifs that’s like that’s like one not even one percent of what it is is the welcoming a new member which is fun to welcome a new member no i know you don’t have to post the gif
[0:13:02 – 0:13:15] Erik: No, I don’t have to do anything, but every time I go on there, which is seldom, it seems like it’s all Redford nods and gump waves and Homer and…
[0:13:15 – 0:13:18] Adam: There’s the Bobby from King of the Hill doing the hang ten.
[0:13:19 – 0:13:23] Adam: There’s one person on there that always uses that for a new member joining.
[0:13:23 – 0:13:30] Erik: Yeah, there’s also the Homer and Bart on the couch with the freakish light from the TV saying, join us.
[0:13:30 – 0:13:30] Erik: Join us.
[0:13:31 – 0:13:31] Erik: Yeah.
[0:13:32 – 0:13:47] Erik: I don’t remember what episode of The Simpsons that’s from, but I appreciate her talking to Lisa about, I think it’s maybe when she’s giving up on trying to be an intellectual and just is going to join in with her dumb family on the couch and watch the boob tube.
[0:13:48 – 0:13:49] Erik: Nailed it.
[0:13:49 – 0:13:50] Erik: Nailed it.
[0:13:51 – 0:14:02] Adam: Anyways, yeah, I haven’t voted yet, but there’s like a bunch of really good options, including one where the sun is the pizza biter and the reflection in the lake is, you guessed it, a bag of wine.
[0:14:03 – 0:14:04] Erik: Oh, wow.
[0:14:04 – 0:14:06] Adam: Which is, I guess, that was your idea.
[0:14:06 – 0:14:07] Adam: Kind of, yeah, I guess.
[0:14:07 – 0:14:09] Erik: That was inspired by Eric.
[0:14:09 – 0:14:13] Erik: I don’t think I had the bag of wine as a reflection of the biter, but I do like that.
[0:14:14 – 0:14:15] Adam: Yeah, it’s pretty well done.
[0:14:16 – 0:14:20] Adam: I assume Cheap Dancer hand drew that for you with pastels.
[0:14:20 – 0:14:24] Erik: Is it like a silent vote where you can’t see the results until the end?
[0:14:25 – 0:14:28] Adam: I’m not sure because I did not vote yet.
[0:14:29 – 0:14:32] Erik: I wanted to wait until… Well, you brought this up with very little follow-up information.
[0:14:33 – 0:14:34] Adam: Well, it’s just a form.
[0:14:34 – 0:14:39] Adam: You got to go in and vote, and then I don’t know if people can see or not, but I doubt it.
[0:14:40 – 0:14:41] Adam: Otherwise, it would sway the vote, right?
[0:14:42 – 0:14:43] Erik: Well, maybe after you vote.
[0:14:43 – 0:14:44] Adam: Maybe after you vote.
[0:14:44 – 0:14:45] Adam: Yeah, that’s why.
[0:14:45 – 0:14:50] Adam: I didn’t see anything like that, but I also didn’t vote, so I don’t want to say for sure no, because I was waiting.
[0:14:50 – 0:14:51] Adam: Not that I’m undecided, really.
[0:14:51 – 0:14:52] Adam: I just…
[0:14:52 – 0:14:53] Erik: Is there a deadline?
[0:14:55 – 0:14:56] Erik: I don’t know about that either.
[0:14:56 – 0:15:02] Adam: But he did ask if it could go on the show notes this week, so I assume it’s going to be live for at least the next week.
[0:15:02 – 0:15:02] Adam: Sure.
[0:15:03 – 0:15:05] Adam: Starting this Sunday when you’re hearing this, of course.
[0:15:05 – 0:15:07] Adam: Thank you for listening, Tumble Homies.
[0:15:07 – 0:15:08] Erik: Happy Sunday.
[0:15:08 – 0:15:10] SPEAKER_01: Happy Sunday.
[0:15:10 – 0:15:11] Adam: It is at Tumble Home after dark.
[0:15:12 – 0:15:13] Adam: The neighboring dogs are howling.
[0:15:14 – 0:15:15] Adam: Arrow is curled up in the corner.
[0:15:15 – 0:15:19] Adam: And the party lights are on here in the shed.
[0:15:19 – 0:15:23] Adam: And we do have an art supply sponsor for this evening’s show.
[0:15:24 – 0:15:26] Adam: Came to us in July.
[0:15:26 – 0:15:28] Erik: Wow.
[0:15:29 – 0:15:30] Adam: Early July.
[0:15:31 – 0:15:33] Adam: This was on there as a smiley bag.
[0:15:33 – 0:15:34] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:15:35 – 0:15:39] Adam: It’s got a smiley on it, and it’s been secured, so I’m going to rip right into this thing.
[0:15:39 – 0:15:40] Erik: Got a quick trip bag.
[0:15:42 – 0:15:44] Adam: That’s some good bag audio.
[0:15:47 – 0:16:13] Erik: there’s a note that’s like in a like a hallmark sack that you would get if you bought like one individual greeting card yeah what if it was yeah it’s just a nice hallmark greeting it might be a hallmark greeting card actually eric it looks like be some stickers oh my oh it looks like a handmade it is a handmade greeting card letters that somebody would have had to maybe purchase that like a michaels peel off to write your own word
[0:16:14 – 0:16:21] Adam: I’m going to go ahead and point out that the M and the beginning and the M and the end here are different.
[0:16:21 – 0:16:23] Adam: This one’s a W upside down.
[0:16:24 – 0:16:26] Erik: Yeah, I’d say that they probably got one of every letter.
[0:16:26 – 0:16:27] Adam: Very resourceful.
[0:16:28 – 0:16:29] Adam: Yeah, like the E is pieced together.
[0:16:29 – 0:16:31] Adam: The E is an F with something else on there.
[0:16:32 – 0:16:33] Adam: This B is a one and a three.
[0:16:33 – 0:16:35] Adam: This is great and shiny.
[0:16:36 – 0:16:38] Adam: Wow, got a bunch of stickers here.
[0:16:38 – 0:16:39] Erik: Packed with stickers.
[0:16:40 – 0:16:41] Adam: Got a… Oh, my God.
[0:16:41 – 0:16:42] Adam: Oh, my.
[0:16:43 – 0:16:43] Adam: Wow.
[0:16:43 – 0:16:44] Adam: Bucket of Blood.
[0:16:44 – 0:16:45] Adam: Bucket of Blood.
[0:16:45 – 0:16:47] Erik: This is Bucket O’ Blood.
[0:16:47 – 0:16:48] Erik: Oh, my God.
[0:16:48 – 0:16:52] Erik: Music, books, and movies from Chicago, an actual place.
[0:16:52 – 0:16:52] Adam: What?
[0:16:53 – 0:16:53] Adam: Another…
[0:16:53 – 0:16:56] Adam: This is a skull version of Bucket of Blood.
[0:16:56 – 0:17:17] Adam: bucket of blood books and records yeah then i got a nice long one here uh some sort of bear skull what do you think that skull is uh yeah i would say that large cat maybe looks close to a bear or yeah uh yeah i don’t know bear slash tiger oh maybe it’s a tiger maybe it’s a bucket of tiger blood
[0:17:18 – 0:17:28] Adam: Eric and Adam, I’m a huge fan of the show, heading out on my first real BWCA trip, and my boyfriend says I may be the most prepared first-timer he’s ever met, thanks to you.
[0:17:29 – 0:17:36] Adam: As a veteran paddler, he’s probably also tired of me correcting him with, actually, my friends Eric and Adam say, dot, dot, dot.
[0:17:37 – 0:17:38] Adam: He’s a fan, too.
[0:17:39 – 0:17:41] Adam: Enjoy the Chicago beers and stickers.
[0:17:42 – 0:17:47] Adam: Thank you, Alyssa and John, and I’m glad you went into your trip prepared.
[0:17:47 – 0:17:47] Adam: How did it go?
[0:17:48 – 0:17:49] Erik: Very nice.
[0:17:49 – 0:17:52] Erik: I like the very simple card.
[0:17:53 – 0:17:54] Erik: Or it could be two Vs.
[0:17:56 – 0:18:00] Erik: The M is two Vs upside down.
[0:18:00 – 0:18:02] SPEAKER_01: All right, what do we got here?
[0:18:03 – 0:18:05] Adam: You ever hear of off-color brewing?
[0:18:06 – 0:18:06] Erik: No.
[0:18:06 – 0:18:07] Adam: Off-color brewing.
[0:18:08 – 0:18:12] Adam: Got a little mouse pizzeria going on here.
[0:18:12 – 0:18:13] Erik: Crispy beer for pizza.
[0:18:14 – 0:18:14] Erik: Yeah.
[0:18:15 – 0:18:18] Adam: Crispy beer for pizza is the beer.
[0:18:18 – 0:18:19] Adam: Very nice.
[0:18:19 – 0:18:20] Adam: Italian style lager?
[0:18:21 – 0:18:23] Adam: I’ve never even heard of such a thing.
[0:18:23 – 0:18:23] Erik: Wow.
[0:18:23 – 0:18:24] Erik: So like Peroni?
[0:18:24 – 0:18:26] Adam: I’ll let you know.
[0:18:29 – 0:18:39] Adam: malts, pilsner and munich, select hops and chinook hops, secret techniques, whole cone hops.
[0:18:40 – 0:18:45] Adam: That’s all the information the mice are giving us as they work the pizza oven.
[0:18:47 – 0:18:48] Adam: There’s a sign on there.
[0:18:48 – 0:18:50] Adam: It says, now extra crispy.
[0:18:50 – 0:18:50] Adam: Nice.
[0:18:50 – 0:18:51] Adam: All right.
[0:18:51 – 0:18:52] Adam: I’m a big fan of this artwork.
[0:18:53 – 0:18:53] Erik: It’s good.
[0:18:54 – 0:18:54] Adam: I’m going to give it a…
[0:18:54 – 0:18:56] Erik: I like the black and white that goes along with the off color.
[0:18:57 – 0:18:57] Erik: Mm-hmm.
[0:18:58 – 0:18:59] Adam: Tre Tastiamo?
[0:18:59 – 0:19:03] Adam: I’m going to give it a preemptive Tre Tastiamo for the Italian ale.
[0:19:03 – 0:19:08] Adam: This one’s been in the mini fridge from the moment it was donated, so no worries.
[0:19:08 – 0:19:09] Adam: Cheers.
[0:19:09 – 0:19:10] Erik: Top notch.
[0:19:10 – 0:19:10] Erik: Cheers, Eric.
[0:19:15 – 0:19:16] Adam: Thank you, Alyssa and John.
[0:19:16 – 0:19:16] Adam: Cheers to you.
[0:19:16 – 0:19:18] Erik: Thank you, guys, for the stickers.
[0:19:23 – 0:19:24] Adam: It tastes like pizza.
[0:19:24 – 0:19:25] Adam: Crispy.
[0:19:25 – 0:19:27] Erik: It tastes like… How is a beer crispy?
[0:19:28 – 0:19:29] Adam: Che Tasty Ammo.
[0:19:30 – 0:19:33] Adam: All right.
[0:19:33 – 0:19:34] Adam: Yeah, we are…
[0:19:36 – 0:19:37] Adam: It’s time, I think.
[0:19:38 – 0:19:38] Adam: Is it time?
[0:19:38 – 0:19:45] Adam: It’s time to crack into the Facebook post from June.
[0:19:45 – 0:19:46] Adam: Yeah, I guess.
[0:19:46 – 0:19:48] Erik: I’m pretty excited and a little scared.
[0:19:48 – 0:19:49] Adam: We did this to ourselves, yeah.
[0:19:49 – 0:19:50] Adam: I’m pretty excited and a little scared.
[0:19:50 – 0:19:54] Adam: I did pull it up before the show and Facebook is acting up.
[0:19:56 – 0:19:58] Adam: The algorithm does not like it when you look away.
[0:19:58 – 0:19:59] Erik: I don’t think it’s acting up.
[0:19:59 – 0:20:01] Erik: It seems like it’s by design.
[0:20:01 – 0:20:04] Adam: Yeah, no, it’s just like it won’t stay on the thread.
[0:20:04 – 0:20:09] Adam: Every time you look away from the screen, it somehow goes back to the homepage to something that I do not follow.
[0:20:09 – 0:20:13] Adam: Forget that post you were looking at.
[0:20:14 – 0:20:14] Erik: Yeah.
[0:20:15 – 0:20:17] Erik: Here’s a spoiler for something that you didn’t want to see.
[0:20:18 – 0:20:19] Erik: Yeah.
[0:20:19 – 0:20:21] Erik: We had no idea you even cared about, but here it is.
[0:20:22 – 0:20:28] Adam: Here’s an ad from Paragus Northwood’s company that you aren’t friends with on Facebook.
[0:20:28 – 0:20:30] Adam: Instead, that’s what you probably wanted to see.
[0:20:30 – 0:20:31] Adam: How about all these reels?
[0:20:31 – 0:20:32] Adam: Facebook has reels now.
[0:20:32 – 0:20:33] Adam: Did you know that?
[0:20:33 – 0:20:35] Erik: Well, don’t they own Instagram?
[0:20:35 – 0:20:35] Erik: Instagram?
[0:20:36 – 0:20:37] Adam: Who knows, man?
[0:20:37 – 0:20:40] Adam: So now, yeah, you got to go into Facebook.
[0:20:40 – 0:20:43] Adam: I haven’t used this in a while, guys, but you have to go in and then you have to go.
[0:20:43 – 0:20:45] Adam: You have to select all comments.
[0:20:45 – 0:20:51] Adam: Hit OK. And then you have to like hit this show previous comments button like five times to load all the comments.
[0:20:52 – 0:20:53] Adam: There’s 54 comments on the thread.
[0:20:54 – 0:20:54] Erik: Shocking.
[0:20:55 – 0:20:57] Adam: So now it’s loaded, so now we will not shut the page on it.
[0:20:58 – 0:20:59] Adam: Don’t ever look away, Eric.
[0:20:59 – 0:20:59] Adam: Don’t ever look away.
[0:20:59 – 0:21:01] Adam: We’re going to be passing the phone back and forth.
[0:21:01 – 0:21:01] Adam: Okay.
[0:21:02 – 0:21:04] Adam: And you ready to get into it?
[0:21:04 – 0:21:09] Erik: Yeah, I am very excited to see how real some of these comments are.
[0:21:09 – 0:21:09] Erik: Speaking of reals.
[0:21:11 – 0:21:36] Adam: uh i’ll read the post uh this is from june 14th this is after we got back from the frost river question of the week what is the worst campsite you have ever stayed at in the bwca that has a nice picture of robert mitchum uh shivering in a wool blanket in a cave oh yes uh after he after he threw marilyn monroe into the river and stole her blanket was this uh pre or post rubdown
[0:21:37 – 0:21:38] Adam: I can’t remember.
[0:21:38 – 0:21:39] Adam: I don’t remember either.
[0:21:39 – 0:21:39] Adam: I don’t remember.
[0:21:40 – 0:21:41] Adam: He looks cold though.
[0:21:41 – 0:21:43] Adam: It looks like he needs to get rubbed.
[0:21:43 – 0:21:46] Erik: He probably needs to give himself a self rub down.
[0:21:46 – 0:21:53] Adam: He’s in a cave of some sort that looks like a pretty shabby-looking campsite over here.
[0:21:54 – 0:22:00] Adam: Only 12 likes or hearts on the post, but 54 comments.
[0:22:00 – 0:22:02] Adam: Okay.
[0:22:02 – 0:22:03] Adam: Top comment, and I don’t know how they’ve…
[0:22:03 – 0:22:08] Adam: I’ve got it organized now to give me all the comments, but we’ll start if you’re okay with that, Eric.
[0:22:08 – 0:22:09] Erik: I don’t know what else we’re going to do.
[0:22:09 – 0:22:10] Erik: I am okay with that.
[0:22:11 – 0:22:12] Adam: I’m not okay.
[0:22:12 – 0:22:14] Adam: Let’s pause the show and we’re going to figure this out.
[0:22:15 – 0:22:16] Adam: Ben Striege.
[0:22:16 – 0:22:19] Adam: How do you say it, Ben?
[0:22:19 – 0:22:21] Adam: Brother Ben, we know you’re listening.
[0:22:22 – 0:22:24] Adam: Please tell us how to pronounce your last name.
[0:22:24 – 0:22:25] Adam: I don’t want to butcher it one more time.
[0:22:25 – 0:22:32] Erik: I had a classmate with that last name and I believe it was pronounced Striege.
[0:22:33 – 0:22:35] Adam: I was really hoping it was going to be Strij.
[0:22:35 – 0:22:37] Erik: Strij.
[0:22:37 – 0:22:38] Adam: Bean Strij.
[0:22:39 – 0:22:39] Erik: Yeah.
[0:22:39 – 0:22:42] Adam: Friend of the show and founder of Paddle Planner.
[0:22:42 – 0:22:43] Adam: Yeah.
[0:22:43 – 0:22:47] Adam: Was alerted to the subreddit after last week’s show that…
[0:22:48 – 0:23:11] Adam: uh yeah indeed ben uh who created paddle planner is definitely a tumble homie and listens and then he did chime in on reddit and said you know enjoyed listening to the episode and uh you know that he had some thoughts and i was gonna just go back and read that but then i pulled up facebook and it’s the top comment over here uh so i’ll just read it off of facebook is that cool
[0:23:11 – 0:23:12] Erik: Is this agreeable?
[0:23:12 – 0:23:14] Erik: Well, yeah, we’re working with Facebook today.
[0:23:14 – 0:23:18] Erik: We didn’t get a chance to print it or etch it into wood or anything.
[0:23:18 – 0:23:21] Erik: So it is just digital Facebook.
[0:23:21 – 0:23:23] Adam: digital Facebook on my phone tonight.
[0:23:24 – 0:23:27] Adam: I already posted all this on Reddit, writes Brother Ben, but here goes.
[0:23:28 – 0:23:30] Adam: I’ve personally visited over 500 campsites.
[0:23:31 – 0:23:36] Adam: Worst one I have visited, not stayed at, was on Lac La Croix, campsite 138.
[0:23:36 – 0:23:44] Adam: There are a few others on Lac La Croix that are just a fire grate on a rock, like campsite 19, or are covered in poison ivy, campsite 3.
[0:23:46 – 0:23:48] Adam: Campsite 138 was the worst of all worlds.
[0:23:49 – 0:23:54] Adam: Poison ivy everywhere, no places for tents, hammocks, chest-high brush to the latrine.
[0:23:54 – 0:23:56] Adam: Has anyone ever stayed there?
[0:23:57 – 0:24:01] Adam: I saw no evidence of humans other than the fire grate and latrine.
[0:24:01 – 0:24:04] Adam: Usually I can find something, even in the least used sites.
[0:24:05 – 0:24:10] Adam: Trampled vegetation, charcoal in the fire grate, a small piece of granola bar wrapper, or a pencil.
[0:24:11 – 0:24:13] Adam: Yep, I just found a pencil one time.
[0:24:14 – 0:24:15] Adam: Nothing on 138.
[0:24:17 – 0:24:23] Adam: Note, the other review on Campsite 3 said that no one got a rash from the plant, so it must not have been poison ivy.
[0:24:23 – 0:24:26] Adam: The visit date was September, though, when poison ivy is less potent.
[0:24:27 – 0:24:32] Adam: I am pretty certain it was poison ivy, since it is very common on that side of the BWCA.
[0:24:32 – 0:24:35] Adam: And my son got a poison ivy rash on that trip with me.
[0:24:37 – 0:24:39] Adam: Campsite 98 on Trigg.
[0:24:39 – 0:24:40] Adam: Do you know where Trigg is?
[0:24:40 – 0:24:41] Adam: Trigg?
[0:24:41 – 0:24:43] Adam: T-R-Y-G-G. Trigg.
[0:24:46 – 0:24:48] Erik: And that’s…
[0:24:49 – 0:24:49] Erik: Nothing.
[0:24:51 – 0:24:57] Erik: Yeah, isn’t it near… Maybe I’m… Yeah, I don’t know if I…
[0:24:57 – 0:24:58] Erik: I’d click on the link, but then I’d have to…
[0:24:58 – 0:25:00] Adam: Isn’t it like the Laos River area?
[0:25:00 – 0:25:01] Adam: Oh my, maybe.
[0:25:02 – 0:25:04] Adam: Like north and east of Laos?
[0:25:04 – 0:25:07] Erik: Like north of… Like wine, maybe?
[0:25:09 – 0:25:09] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:25:11 – 0:25:11] Adam: Like up by Dent.
[0:25:12 – 0:25:17] Erik: Yeah, I definitely can’t picture it off the top of my head for whatever reason.
[0:25:19 – 0:25:21] Erik: That vaguely comes to mind, but I don’t know.
[0:25:22 – 0:25:26] Adam: We’ll have to take a break after this comment and click the link and find it.
[0:25:27 – 0:25:31] Adam: Campsite 98 on Trigg is a close second for worst sight.
[0:25:31 – 0:25:33] Adam: Fire grade on a rock and not a flat one.
[0:25:34 – 0:25:37] Adam: Just hope it isn’t raining, otherwise you will slide right into the lake.
[0:25:37 – 0:25:38] Adam: But hey, there’s brook trout.
[0:25:39 – 0:25:40] Adam: Not that we could catch any.
[0:25:41 – 0:25:42] Adam: The worst one I…
[0:25:42 – 0:25:45] Adam: So I guess you didn’t stay on 98 either.
[0:25:45 – 0:25:47] Adam: Just the second worst you’ve seen…
[0:25:48 – 0:25:52] Adam: The worst one I have stayed at was on Manaman, campsite 1313.
[0:25:53 – 0:25:56] Adam: I would have gone back to the other one on Manaman, but it wasn’t any better.
[0:25:57 – 0:25:58] Adam: I had already stopped there.
[0:25:58 – 0:26:03] Adam: The fire grate had been pried up by someone and tossed aside, and they had built their own fire ring.
[0:26:03 – 0:26:06] Adam: Not that I wanted a fire, it was 90 degrees that day.
[0:26:06 – 0:26:09] Adam: The site was covered in long grass, which meant ticks.
[0:26:09 – 0:26:10] Adam: I was picking ticks off me for days.
[0:26:11 – 0:26:13] Adam: The only standing trees were dead husks.
[0:26:13 – 0:26:15] Adam: I think Manaman is visited in the winter.
[0:26:16 – 0:26:21] Adam: It is on the ski, trail, dog sled route, but I wouldn’t stay there in the summer.
[0:26:21 – 0:26:21] SPEAKER_01: Hmm.
[0:26:22 – 0:26:27] Adam: For fun, read the reviews for Jig, Maxine, and others here.
[0:26:27 – 0:26:29] Adam: Links are provided on the Facebook page.
[0:26:30 – 0:26:33] Adam: And, yeah, they all go to Paddle Planner, I’m assuming.
[0:26:34 – 0:26:35] Adam: The best resource.
[0:26:35 – 0:26:37] Erik: Triggs is just south of Lac La Croix.
[0:26:37 – 0:26:38] Adam: Oh, it’s way up there.
[0:26:38 – 0:26:41] Adam: A lot of campsites up in that neck of the woods.
[0:26:41 – 0:26:43] Erik: Just west of Tamagotchi Lake.
[0:26:43 – 0:26:44] Adam: There we go.
[0:26:44 – 0:26:45] Adam: We found it.
[0:26:47 – 0:26:48] Adam: I think the…
[0:26:49 – 0:26:53] Adam: Thank you, Brother Ben, for the excellent website and resource of Paddle Planner.
[0:26:53 – 0:26:54] Adam: And thank you for the comments.
[0:26:55 – 0:26:56] Adam: We really do appreciate it.
[0:26:57 – 0:27:00] Adam: If anybody out there knows bad campsites, it’s Ben.
[0:27:00 – 0:27:01] Erik: I would say so.
[0:27:01 – 0:27:02] Adam: How many reviews?
[0:27:02 – 0:27:04] Adam: 500 plus and going.
[0:27:05 – 0:27:18] Adam: I believe on the Reddit post, there’s a bit more said there, including that being the owner of Paddle Planner, that he purposely goes out of his way to go to sites that have not gotten any reviews yet, which makes a lot of sense.
[0:27:19 – 0:27:23] Adam: But he does say that at this point, most of the ones that don’t have reviews are often very bad.
[0:27:23 – 0:27:25] Adam: Yeah, I would think so.
[0:27:26 – 0:27:26] Adam: Makes sense.
[0:27:26 – 0:27:27] Adam: You get to see those.
[0:27:28 – 0:27:28] Erik: That’s fun.
[0:27:28 – 0:27:34] Erik: That’s a fun little added hobby, a sub-hobby to the hobby that is camping in the Bajau waters.
[0:27:35 – 0:27:35] Adam: Absolutely.
[0:27:37 – 0:27:41] Adam: The next one’s real short, so I’ll just take that and then I’ll pass the phone over to you, Eric.
[0:27:41 – 0:27:44] Adam: The next comment up from one month ago from Caleb.
[0:27:45 – 0:27:49] Adam: I’m just going to use first names, I guess, other than famous brother Ben.
[0:27:49 – 0:27:50] Erik: Famous.
[0:27:50 – 0:27:51] Adam: Strigé.
[0:27:52 – 0:27:53] Adam: They’re all pretty good.
[0:27:53 – 0:27:54] Adam: Thank you, Caleb.
[0:27:55 – 0:27:56] Adam: One thumbs up for you.
[0:27:57 – 0:27:58] Adam: And then this is where the fun begins.
[0:27:59 – 0:28:00] Adam: They’re all pretty good.
[0:28:01 – 0:28:03] Adam: Ther is spelled T-H-E-R.
[0:28:03 – 0:28:05] Adam: They’re all pretty good.
[0:28:06 – 0:28:06] Adam: All right.
[0:28:06 – 0:28:08] Adam: I mean, yeah.
[0:28:08 – 0:28:09] Erik: That’s a very thoughtful response.
[0:28:09 – 0:28:10] Erik: Thanks for sharing.
[0:28:10 – 0:28:12] Adam: I’m glad you shared that, Caleb.
[0:28:13 – 0:28:16] Adam: And the best part, though, is that there’s a response from Mazahir.
[0:28:17 – 0:28:17] Erik: Who?
[0:28:17 – 0:28:18] Adam: Mazahir.
[0:28:19 – 0:28:22] Adam: And if you click on it, it’s just pictures of crystals.
[0:28:23 – 0:28:28] Adam: And then I quickly realized that Mazahir has responded to damn near every comment on this thread.
[0:28:29 – 0:28:30] Adam: Just with pictures?
[0:28:30 – 0:28:31] Adam: And it’s all different crystals, though.
[0:28:31 – 0:28:32] Adam: It’s not the same one.
[0:28:32 – 0:28:33] Erik: Are they for sale?
[0:28:34 – 0:28:34] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:28:35 – 0:28:35] Adam: It’s not evident.
[0:28:36 – 0:28:37] Adam: I’ll click on this one for you.
[0:28:38 – 0:28:39] Adam: This is a video.
[0:28:39 – 0:28:41] Adam: I’m not playing the video of this crystal.
[0:28:41 – 0:28:42] Adam: A video of a crystal.
[0:28:42 – 0:28:44] Adam: Is this geode or is that a crystal?
[0:28:44 – 0:28:47] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:28:47 – 0:28:48] Adam: One month ago.
[0:28:49 – 0:28:51] Adam: Yeah, I’m going to link to Caleb.
[0:28:52 – 0:28:54] Adam: Hey, Caleb, you want to buy this crystal?
[0:28:54 – 0:28:55] Adam: I’m assuming that’s what that means.
[0:28:56 – 0:29:00] Adam: If you post a picture of a crystal on Facebook, you better expect offers are coming in.
[0:29:01 – 0:29:19] Adam: mazahir abbas yeah every single yeah big time crystal dealer for some reasons targeting tumble home’s facebook page you know this is what happens when you don’t monitor a post for two and a half months and just let it run wild i guess it gets uh you get bombarded with crystal trolls dang
[0:29:21 – 0:29:23] Erik: That’s so funny.
[0:29:24 – 0:29:27] Erik: I feel like maybe once we get through these, we should watch one of the crystal videos.
[0:29:27 – 0:29:29] Adam: Maybe at the end we can watch some crystal videos.
[0:29:29 – 0:29:33] Erik: Next up, Steve, campsite 1268 on Ensign.
[0:29:34 – 0:29:37] Erik: It’s wide open with zero cover from the sun or the rain.
[0:29:38 – 0:29:43] Erik: Tarping only possible if you brought your own structure or a mile of rope.
[0:29:43 – 0:29:44] Erik: Oh, no.
[0:29:44 – 0:29:47] Erik: Two decent tent pads, but they were crazy with ticks.
[0:29:48 – 0:29:49] Adam: Oh, no.
[0:29:49 – 0:29:50] Erik: Crazy with ticks.
[0:29:50 – 0:29:51] Erik: I like that.
[0:29:51 – 0:29:56] Erik: 0 out of 10 if you seek solitude as it’s right on the main drag of Ensign.
[0:29:56 – 0:30:00] Erik: 10 out of 10 if you want to merely eat lunch and watch the daily boat parade.
[0:30:00 – 0:30:01] Adam: Hey, the parade isn’t bad, though.
[0:30:02 – 0:30:04] Erik: Site 1269 is a much better site.
[0:30:04 – 0:30:06] Erik: I think I can picture this one.
[0:30:06 – 0:30:08] Erik: I remember seeing this going down the lake.
[0:30:08 – 0:30:13] Erik: It is like right in the middle of the syphilis corridor with all the red dots everywhere.
[0:30:13 – 0:30:14] Adam: That’s right.
[0:30:14 – 0:30:24] Adam: I went and looked through all the campsites on Ensign before last week’s show, and there’s surprisingly not very many one-star campsites on Ensign.
[0:30:24 – 0:30:32] Adam: There are some that aren’t reviewed, but actually one of the only, I think, one-star reviewed sites was the one you and I stayed at, Ensign 1.
[0:30:32 – 0:30:32] Adam: Ensign 1.
[0:30:32 – 0:30:33] Adam: Yeah, Ensign 1 in our system.
[0:30:34 – 0:30:34] Adam: That’s a fun one.
[0:30:35 – 0:31:00] Adam: oh that’s the other thing with uh ben’s post on reddit it fully explained like the numbering system i guess at one point he got a file from the forest service and again just go read the subreddit post for the real details on this but i guess it goes up to like 2200 or something that they actually have in their system that are numbered and then the ones that anything beyond that he just like kind of kept the sequence going and numbered them himself it sounded like
[0:31:01 – 0:31:10] Adam: So it is a mix of like official Forest Service numbering for a panel planter and then, you know, a little bit of just ingenuity.
[0:31:12 – 0:31:13] Erik: Yeah.
[0:31:13 – 0:31:16] Erik: We’ll just skip that comment there.
[0:31:16 – 0:31:21] Erik: I mean, Adam must have remembered the Facebook password is one of the comments.
[0:31:21 – 0:31:22] Erik: Yeah.
[0:31:22 – 0:31:22] Adam: Somebody commented that?
[0:31:22 – 0:31:23] Adam: Mm-hmm.
[0:31:24 – 0:31:24] Adam: Yeah.
[0:31:24 – 0:31:25] Adam: I never forgot it.
[0:31:25 – 0:31:28] Adam: I just haven’t been looking at it.
[0:31:29 – 0:31:32] Adam: One nice thing Facebook does is it keeps you logged in.
[0:31:32 – 0:31:32] Adam: Yeah.
[0:31:33 – 0:31:35] Erik: They want you to have that password.
[0:31:35 – 0:31:35] Adam: Yeah.
[0:31:35 – 0:31:36] Adam: I’m logged in.
[0:31:37 – 0:31:41] Adam: I got to check the sell and swap here in town every once in a while.
[0:31:41 – 0:32:02] Adam: it is the one thing i do miss i don’t have the facebook app but like i do i’m just we’re reading this on like a safari tab yeah and i just have that in there where if i type in facebook it pops up and i go right to my selling swamp and yep nobody’s made any offers on my slab doors yet it’s a really good deal not one offer what the hell
[0:32:04 – 0:32:28] Adam: facebook what are you doing what kind of crystals did isaac get offered though yeah you need maybe some videos of the doors yeah maybe i should have done maybe i just put up some crystals for sale next up on the show uh see i don’t know if i can call any of these folks dear friend this is so weird using regular names again well i think i read a little bit of the that comment it is a dear friend
[0:32:29 – 0:32:45] Adam: oh yeah no doubt um there are a lot of people that i’m like for sure i know a few of these that are like i know they’re oh i see all right hot take here from friend of the show phasmata maybe just read it adam uh
[0:32:47 – 0:32:52] Adam: So far, the worst campsite I’ve ever stayed at is the site on Rose nearest the falls.
[0:32:53 – 0:32:53] Erik: Hot take.
[0:32:54 – 0:32:54] Erik: Spicy.
[0:32:54 – 0:32:57] Adam: That five-star hotel of a site that everyone loves.
[0:32:57 – 0:32:58] Adam: Oh, no.
[0:32:58 – 0:33:04] Adam: I see what made it a great site long ago, but everywhere I looked when I stayed there depressed and angered me.
[0:33:04 – 0:33:09] Adam: The excessively huge area of soil compaction, the hacked up bobby trees and wrecked stumps,
[0:33:10 – 0:33:34] Adam: someone had decided they would cut down a bunch of trees on the slope in front of the fire grate to open the view and now erosion is getting bad there so much litter in the surrounding brush and shoreline i’ve come to realize that five stars on paddle planner is a red flag oh a sign that the site has probably been turned into a state park picnic site bound to spoil my experience more than it enhances it it’s a good point oh yeah totally
[0:33:37 – 0:33:58] Adam: I saw something and it was like, you got to go, if you’re looking for a business, look for the two-star reviews where they just complain about the service or something because that means that if the service is bad, if they can afford to give poor service and still be in business, that means their product is really good.
[0:33:58 – 0:33:58] Adam: The food’s good?
[0:33:59 – 0:34:00] Adam: Yeah.
[0:34:00 – 0:34:03] Adam: They weren’t willing to give it a one-star review because the coffee was so good.
[0:34:04 – 0:34:05] Adam: You know, something.
[0:34:05 – 0:34:05] Adam: Yeah.
[0:34:05 – 0:34:09] Adam: Yeah, the five-star reviews, that can’t say it’s kissing some butts.
[0:34:10 – 0:34:11] Adam: Maybe a little too nice.
[0:34:11 – 0:34:13] Erik: Yeah, and just generally overused.
[0:34:13 – 0:34:21] Erik: I mean, it’s pretty obvious that you see that, you know, those sites on Clearwater, the nicest ones that people want to… What is this crystal?
[0:34:22 – 0:34:23] Erik: You got another crystal?
[0:34:23 – 0:34:24] Adam: Why is this one just open?
[0:34:26 – 0:34:27] Adam: It’s like a… Look at this.
[0:34:28 – 0:34:30] Adam: It’s like a crystal by a volcano, this one.
[0:34:30 – 0:34:30] Erik: Ooh.
[0:34:31 – 0:34:32] Erik: Out in the open.
[0:34:32 – 0:34:34] Adam: Mazahir, get it together.
[0:34:34 – 0:34:40] Erik: Start traveling with his crystals and taking pictures of them in the world like some traveling gnome.
[0:34:42 – 0:34:44] Adam: Wait, we got some interaction here.
[0:34:44 – 0:34:45] Adam: Uh-oh.
[0:34:45 – 0:34:47] Adam: Phasmata responds to the crystal buyer.
[0:34:48 – 0:34:50] Adam: Well, Tom Bohemy’s Facebook in a Facebook, apparently.
[0:34:50 – 0:34:54] Adam: Eye roll emoji to the crystal picture.
[0:34:54 – 0:34:56] Adam: And then Mazahir chimes back.
[0:34:57 – 0:35:01] Adam: No, I am from Gemstone Cellar from Pakistan.
[0:35:01 – 0:35:02] Adam: I am businessman.
[0:35:02 – 0:35:08] Adam: Why are we laughing at him?
[0:35:08 – 0:35:11] Adam: He’s just an honest businessman from Pakistan.
[0:35:12 – 0:35:17] Erik: I’m from Gemstone Cellar from Pakistan.
[0:35:17 – 0:35:19] Erik: I’m businessman.
[0:35:19 – 0:35:20] Adam: I’m businessman.
[0:35:20 – 0:35:27] Adam: Yeah, I don’t know how… My point precisely.
[0:35:27 – 0:35:29] Erik: I don’t know how anybody…
[0:35:29 – 0:35:32] Erik: Okay.
[0:35:32 – 0:35:33] Erik: This is great.
[0:35:33 – 0:35:36] Erik: I want to know how anybody would actually go about purchasing a crystal.
[0:35:37 – 0:35:40] Adam: Yeah, you got to contact Maza here directly, I guess.
[0:35:40 – 0:35:41] Adam: Hit him up in the DMs.
[0:35:42 – 0:35:42] Adam: Do not.
[0:35:42 – 0:35:45] Adam: Anybody listening to this, I hope you did not do that.
[0:35:45 – 0:35:47] Erik: How much are your crystals and what are they for?
[0:35:48 – 0:35:49] Erik: What kind of crystals are they?
[0:35:49 – 0:35:54] Adam: They’re just Pakistani crystals from the mountains of Pakistan.
[0:35:57 – 0:35:58] Erik: T.O.
[0:36:00 – 0:36:02] Erik: Just a general observation per this topic.
[0:36:04 – 0:36:09] Erik: As the last two years had such bad bugs, that’s one of my bigger factors lately.
[0:36:09 – 0:36:15] Erik: Less buggy sites are generally found on the west or south facing sides of lakes.
[0:36:16 – 0:36:23] Erik: They often have different microclimates from east and north facing shores due to more direct afternoon sunlight and its effects on drying a site.
[0:36:24 – 0:36:31] Erik: Sun at peak temps causes sites to grow less brush and more likely pines, which are dry ground hearty.
[0:36:32 – 0:36:39] Erik: Buggy sites are more often wet from loamy soils, are more brushy with shady hardwood, cedar, or spruce, so more likely buggy woods.
[0:36:39 – 0:36:45] Erik: So west and north aspects, dry and open, generally have more breeze and less bugs.
[0:36:46 – 0:36:49] Erik: This is a general rule of thumb, and of course other factors to take into account.
[0:36:50 – 0:36:53] Erik: These characteristics are just inherent in many sites.
[0:36:54 – 0:36:57] Erik: Overuse and abuse is the avoidable reason sites suck.
[0:36:58 – 0:36:59] Erik: Yeah.
[0:36:59 – 0:37:05] Erik: That’s kind of a light echo to the previous comment, which we’ve not really…
[0:37:07 – 0:37:08] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:37:08 – 0:37:14] Erik: We’ve kind of mentioned it a little bit, but the last two comments I feel like we didn’t really get into too much.
[0:37:14 – 0:37:14] Erik: Like,
[0:37:14 – 0:37:21] Erik: Yeah, even a five-star site can be totally taken away just because everybody’s like, well, that’s the best site on the lake.
[0:37:21 – 0:37:22] Erik: That’s the one we should go for.
[0:37:23 – 0:37:34] Erik: Or even if it’s not a site that somebody did pre-research on to know that that’s where they should go, it’s probably a site that they heard about from a buddy.
[0:37:34 – 0:37:36] Erik: Or, yeah, they always just kind of look the best.
[0:37:36 – 0:37:37] Adam: They’re just pecking you from the lake.
[0:37:37 – 0:37:37] Erik: Yeah.
[0:37:38 – 0:37:39] Adam: They’re dry-hardy.
[0:37:40 – 0:37:40] Adam: Yeah.
[0:37:41 – 0:37:41] Erik: Lomi?
[0:37:41 – 0:37:42] Erik: Dry-hardy.
[0:37:42 – 0:37:43] Erik: Not Lomi.
[0:37:43 – 0:37:43] Adam: Not Lomi.
[0:37:45 – 0:38:02] Erik: uh jonathan tumble home posting on facebook question mark this is like christmas in june damn right ho ho ho let’s see what the uh crystal looks like get the crystal for that comment uh it’s just another crystal being held up in front of the mountains again same crystal i am businessman
[0:38:03 – 0:38:05] Erik: I’m businessman.
[0:38:07 – 0:38:09] Adam: We need to get some more crystals for our next trip.
[0:38:09 – 0:38:12] Adam: Maybe we should spend some tumble bucks.
[0:38:13 – 0:38:15] Adam: Thanks, patrons, for your support of the show.
[0:38:15 – 0:38:17] Adam: We’re going to squander them all, shipping it all by wire service.
[0:38:22 – 0:38:26] Erik: Well, we got that vest from… Western Union to… We got that vest from Pakistan.
[0:38:26 – 0:38:26] Erik: We did.
[0:38:26 – 0:38:27] Erik: Yeah.
[0:38:27 – 0:38:28] Erik: Pakistan business.
[0:38:28 – 0:38:29] Adam: The vest of Karachi.
[0:38:29 – 0:38:29] Adam: Yeah.
[0:38:30 – 0:38:33] Adam: The Pakistan businessman is trustworthy.
[0:38:34 – 0:38:35] Adam: He is trustworthy.
[0:38:35 – 0:38:38] Adam: We wire you the cash and you send us the crystals.
[0:38:38 – 0:38:40] Adam: We’ll put them in our vest pocket and head on out.
[0:38:41 – 0:38:46] SPEAKER_01: Hey, I got a salt box at work this week.
[0:38:46 – 0:38:47] Adam: Sort of a crystal.
[0:38:47 – 0:38:47] Adam: Yeah.
[0:38:48 – 0:38:49] Erik: What’s the salt box?
[0:38:49 – 0:38:50] Adam: Oh, it’s for the Shire.
[0:38:51 – 0:38:52] Adam: The Shire salt box.
[0:38:52 – 0:38:58] Adam: This is from the Lord of the Rings winter series in which Sam always has a salt box with him.
[0:38:59 – 0:38:59] Erik: Oh.
[0:38:59 – 0:39:04] Adam: He pulls out a wooden box of fine salts to season the meal with while they’re cooking over the campfire.
[0:39:04 – 0:39:10] Adam: Like an entire episode of the Snow Log, I just talked about the salt box.
[0:39:10 – 0:39:11] Adam: Oh, wow.
[0:39:11 – 0:39:11] Adam: Yeah.
[0:39:12 – 0:39:15] Adam: One of the comrades that the co-op found in…
[0:39:15 – 0:39:20] Adam: or acquired a box of salt and put it in my mailbox.
[0:39:20 – 0:39:23] Adam: Yeah, it came, got really nice looking crystals in there.
[0:39:23 – 0:39:24] Adam: Big salt.
[0:39:24 – 0:39:24] Adam: Dang.
[0:39:24 – 0:39:25] Adam: Chunky salt.
[0:39:25 – 0:39:26] Adam: Nice.
[0:39:26 – 0:39:28] Adam: So I threw it in my backpack.
[0:39:29 – 0:39:33] Adam: So next time I go camping, I got to transfer it from my work backpack into like the camping cook pack.
[0:39:34 – 0:39:35] Adam: But, you know.
[0:39:35 – 0:39:36] Erik: That’s exciting.
[0:39:36 – 0:39:37] Adam: That’s my favorite kind of crystal.
[0:39:38 – 0:39:39] Adam: It’s the salt box.
[0:39:39 – 0:39:39] Erik: The kind you can eat.
[0:39:40 – 0:39:41] Adam: Yeah, it’s the kind you can put on an egg.
[0:39:42 – 0:39:43] Adam: Yeah.
[0:39:45 – 0:39:45] Adam: I am Eggman.
[0:39:46 – 0:39:49] Adam: Next up on the show, Brian.
[0:39:50 – 0:39:52] Adam: Nice picture for Brian here.
[0:39:52 – 0:39:55] Adam: I like that you get the picture of the person, too.
[0:39:56 – 0:39:56] Adam: Yeah.
[0:39:57 – 0:39:57] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:39:57 – 0:40:01] Adam: I’m getting some good feels from this episode so far, just being back on Facebook.
[0:40:01 – 0:40:02] Adam: This is fun.
[0:40:03 – 0:40:05] Adam: Thanks for chiming in, Brian.
[0:40:05 – 0:40:07] Adam: What is this tomfoolery?
[0:40:07 – 0:40:10] Adam: A Facebook question of the week and no Reddit post?
[0:40:11 – 0:40:14] Adam: I signed up for Reddit just for the Squatchos and Tumblehome community.
[0:40:15 – 0:40:17] Erik: Yeah, well, we bamboozled.
[0:40:17 – 0:40:19] Erik: We’re reverse bamboozlers.
[0:40:19 – 0:40:19] Adam: Got them.
[0:40:20 – 0:40:23] Adam: Just when you least expect it, they bully you back in.
[0:40:24 – 0:40:27] Adam: Anyways, it’s got to be the southernmost site on Masaba.
[0:40:28 – 0:40:28] Adam: It’s not that much.
[0:40:29 – 0:40:38] Adam: It’s not that it is such an awful site on its own, but it’s the worst on the lake with almost no water views and the woods almost claustrophobically close.
[0:40:39 – 0:40:46] Adam: My trip mate made me pass up the much nicer northern site with its 270 degree views because it was more exposed to the wind.
[0:40:46 – 0:40:49] Adam: which promptly died as soon as we set camp.
[0:40:50 – 0:40:52] Adam: Thank you, Brian, a.k.a.
[0:40:52 – 0:40:53] Adam: Eagle98mn.
[0:40:53 – 0:40:56] Adam: Thank you for the true signature at the end.
[0:40:56 – 0:40:56] Adam: Yes.
[0:40:57 – 0:40:58] Adam: Now I feel a lot more at ease.
[0:40:59 – 0:40:59] Adam: I know who we’re dealing with.
[0:41:00 – 0:41:01] Adam: Brian, I can’t help it.
[0:41:01 – 0:41:03] Adam: I got to see what kind of crystals we’re getting for this one.
[0:41:04 – 0:41:05] Adam: It’s a video.
[0:41:06 – 0:41:07] Adam: I’m just going to play the video, Eric.
[0:41:07 – 0:41:08] Adam: What’s the worst that could happen?
[0:41:10 – 0:41:11] Adam: Oh, he’s spinning it.
[0:41:12 – 0:41:13] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:41:13 – 0:41:14] Adam: That is a beaut.
[0:41:14 – 0:41:15] Erik: Sexy crystal.
[0:41:15 – 0:41:16] Adam: How much do you think for that?
[0:41:17 – 0:41:18] Adam: I have no idea.
[0:41:18 – 0:41:21] Erik: What do you think that goes for?
[0:41:21 – 0:41:22] Erik: $16 or $500.
[0:41:22 – 0:41:23] Erik: I have no idea.
[0:41:23 – 0:41:27] Adam: I think after this show, I’m going to reply to this video and just be like, how much?
[0:41:27 – 0:41:28] Erik: Cash?
[0:41:28 – 0:41:32] Adam: I’ll ship you an envelope of cash in a vest.
[0:41:32 – 0:41:34] Adam: I’m still spinning it.
[0:41:35 – 0:41:35] Adam: Take it easy.
[0:41:36 – 0:41:38] Adam: I can only get… Got him.
[0:41:40 – 0:41:41] Adam: I can only buy so many crystals in a year.
[0:41:41 – 0:41:43] Adam: All right.
[0:41:43 – 0:41:44] Erik: What’s your crystal budget?
[0:41:44 – 0:41:45] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:41:45 – 0:41:46] Adam: What is our crystal budget?
[0:41:48 – 0:41:51] Adam: Our intern ran off with the ledger.
[0:41:51 – 0:41:53] Adam: I don’t even know what we have in the account right now.
[0:41:54 – 0:41:55] Adam: How many crystals can we afford?
[0:41:56 – 0:41:56] Erik: Bottom line, Eric.
[0:41:56 – 0:41:59] Erik: It depends on how much… Yeah, what do you want for these things?
[0:41:59 – 0:42:00] Erik: I don’t even know how much the…
[0:42:01 – 0:42:02] Adam: They should become crystal wholesalers.
[0:42:03 – 0:42:04] Adam: We buy the crystals from Pakistan.
[0:42:05 – 0:42:06] Adam: We bring them to downtown Grand Marais.
[0:42:06 – 0:42:12] Adam: We upsell them 500% margin, and we’re retired in two years.
[0:42:12 – 0:42:12] Adam: What do you think?
[0:42:14 – 0:42:14] Erik: Yeah.
[0:42:14 – 0:42:20] Adam: I mean, if you’re going to open a crystal shop like Grand Marais, pretty much can’t go wrong, I would think.
[0:42:20 – 0:42:22] Adam: One of the best spots in America to open a crystal shop.
[0:42:23 – 0:42:27] Adam: I think there’s a lot of crystal hippies in Grand Marais, Eric.
[0:42:28 – 0:42:31] Adam: Probably only second to the communities near Mount Shasta.
[0:42:32 – 0:42:33] Erik: Yeah, maybe.
[0:42:33 – 0:42:34] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:42:34 – 0:42:42] Erik: I’m thinking some of those mountain towns out west, like Taos, New Mexico…
[0:42:43 – 0:42:44] Adam: Yeah, no, Sedona.
[0:42:44 – 0:42:46] Adam: Sedona’s got its beat for sure.
[0:42:47 – 0:42:53] Adam: Mazahir’s probably got several affiliates in Sedona already, but he’s probably got nobody that he’s working with on the North Shore.
[0:42:53 – 0:42:54] Adam: I mean, forget the agates.
[0:42:54 – 0:42:58] Erik: Post it up at the Vortices parking lot trailhead or whatever.
[0:42:58 – 0:42:59] Adam: There you go.
[0:42:59 – 0:43:01] Adam: Well, we got the portal out here.
[0:43:01 – 0:43:03] Erik: Oh, yeah, the magnet portal.
[0:43:04 – 0:43:08] Adam: Yeah, we can sell the Pakistani crystals right to the Pleiadians.
[0:43:08 – 0:43:09] Adam: Pleiadians?
[0:43:10 – 0:43:10] Adam: Pleiadians.
[0:43:11 – 0:43:11] Erik: Yeah, Pleiadians.
[0:43:12 – 0:43:12] Adam: Nailed it.
[0:43:12 – 0:43:16] Erik: Michael, that would be the portage from Caribou Lake to Little Caribou.
[0:43:17 – 0:43:21] Erik: Wait, that’s not an official campsite, and that wasn’t me camping there in the middle of the portage.
[0:43:22 – 0:43:22] Erik: That wasn’t me.
[0:43:22 – 0:43:26] Erik: Tent lines crossing the trail and human waste along the edge of the trail.
[0:43:26 – 0:43:28] Erik: Tent lines crossing the trail on a portage?
[0:43:28 – 0:43:29] Erik: One, worst campsite ever.
[0:43:30 – 0:43:31] Erik: Two, not a real campsite.
[0:43:31 – 0:43:33] Erik: Just a place this family decided they liked.
[0:43:34 – 0:43:34] Erik: Sorry.
[0:43:35 – 0:43:37] Adam: Wow.
[0:43:37 – 0:43:39] Adam: At least it’s like a portage that never gets used.
[0:43:40 – 0:43:40] Erik: Yeah, God.
[0:43:40 – 0:43:42] Erik: The portage from Caribou to Little Caribou.
[0:43:42 – 0:43:43] Erik: How could you camp on that?
[0:43:44 – 0:43:45] Adam: Yeah, I can’t picture it.
[0:43:46 – 0:43:48] Adam: What, 28 rods?
[0:43:48 – 0:43:49] Adam: There’s not a whole lot to it.
[0:43:51 – 0:43:51] Adam: Yikes.
[0:43:51 – 0:43:56] Erik: Yeah, there was, I mean, that must have, I would hope that that was maybe the COVID summer.
[0:43:56 – 0:43:57] Erik: No other option.
[0:43:58 – 0:43:58] Adam: Yeah.
[0:43:59 – 0:44:01] Erik: Sam, I’ll read another one.
[0:44:01 – 0:44:07] Erik: The southernmost site on Nina Moose was the only spot open on our way out of the park in 2020.
[0:44:07 – 0:44:09] Erik: High populations of leeches.
[0:44:10 – 0:44:27] Erik: swamp leeches god was there other various biting insects lake agnes was completely empty should have stayed there but the lesson learned nice views whilst being feasted upon though d plus d plus grade yeah see there’s always something
[0:44:30 – 0:44:31] Adam: The galley nippers are really unpleasant.
[0:44:32 – 0:44:34] Erik: I remember the farthest site on Nina Moose.
[0:44:34 – 0:44:35] Erik: Which one did we stay at?
[0:44:35 – 0:44:40] Adam: We were like the third site up, I would say, on the west.
[0:44:41 – 0:44:41] Erik: Is it that one?
[0:44:42 – 0:44:43] Adam: Maybe.
[0:44:43 – 0:44:45] Adam: I guess it would be that one down on the right.
[0:44:45 – 0:44:46] Adam: That one there?
[0:44:46 – 0:44:48] Adam: Came out of the river and just turned right into it.
[0:44:48 – 0:44:50] Erik: There’s a picture there.
[0:44:50 – 0:44:53] Erik: I didn’t recognize what it looked like there from camp.
[0:44:53 – 0:44:53] Erik: Yeah.
[0:44:58 – 0:45:03] Adam: All right, next up on the show, Matthew.
[0:45:04 – 0:45:05] Adam: A site on Ahsub.
[0:45:06 – 0:45:07] Adam: What is Ahsub?
[0:45:10 – 0:45:11] Adam: A-H-S-U-B?
[0:45:12 – 0:45:12] Adam: Ahsub?
[0:45:13 – 0:45:14] Adam: Yeah, I recognize the name.
[0:45:14 – 0:45:16] Adam: I’m really showing my ass on this episode.
[0:45:16 – 0:45:17] Adam: I don’t know where anything is.
[0:45:17 – 0:45:20] Erik: I don’t know where that one’s at specifically.
[0:45:20 – 0:45:24] Adam: These guys have 260 episodes and they don’t know where Ahsub is.
[0:45:24 – 0:45:25] Adam: Or Trigg.
[0:45:26 – 0:45:28] Adam: A site on Ossub.
[0:45:28 – 0:45:44] Adam: The site wasn’t that great, and to make it worse, a loud group of very young men, possibly Boy Scouts, quote, couldn’t find a campsite anywhere else, so they set up on the lake right across from us, not in a designated site, even though there were still three hours of daylight left.
[0:45:45 – 0:45:51] Adam: They were very noisy for much of the night, much of the time clearing brush and rocks to make their camp usable.
[0:45:52 – 0:45:54] Adam: A veritable Bobby convention.
[0:45:54 – 0:45:54] Adam: Ooh-wee.
[0:45:56 – 0:45:57] Adam: Old Canoe Guy, thank you very much.
[0:45:58 – 0:45:59] Erik: It’s just east of Snowbank.
[0:46:00 – 0:46:00] Adam: Oh, okay.
[0:46:01 – 0:46:02] Adam: East of Snowbank.
[0:46:02 – 0:46:03] Erik: North of Disappointment.
[0:46:04 – 0:46:04] Adam: Yeah, right.
[0:46:05 – 0:46:08] Adam: That is neck of the woods I have not been able to enjoy.
[0:46:08 – 0:46:10] Adam: So that checks out.
[0:46:10 – 0:46:10] Adam: Yeah.
[0:46:11 – 0:46:14] Adam: Watch out for the Bobby Convention over there.
[0:46:14 – 0:46:15] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:46:15 – 0:46:16] Adam: Holy moly.
[0:46:16 – 0:46:18] Adam: There you go.
[0:46:20 – 0:46:21] Adam: Thank you, old canoe guy, for the comment.
[0:46:21 – 0:46:22] Adam: You got to watch out for those folks.
[0:46:23 – 0:46:24] Adam: What do you do in that scenario?
[0:46:24 – 0:46:26] Adam: It’s not like you’re going to pick up and leave then.
[0:46:27 – 0:46:29] Adam: You just got to deal, I guess.
[0:46:31 – 0:46:31] Erik: Paul.
[0:46:33 – 0:46:35] Erik: There have been some doozies, that’s for sure.
[0:46:36 – 0:46:38] Erik: But my most recent is a sight on Duncan.
[0:46:40 – 0:46:40] Erik: No.
[0:46:41 – 0:46:42] Erik: No, you know where that one is.
[0:46:42 – 0:46:52] Erik: First off, I liken Duncan to the aluminum highway because it is constantly barraged with looky-loos doing day trips to the falls or beginners wanting an easy entry point.
[0:46:52 – 0:46:53] Erik: Yes.
[0:46:54 – 0:46:59] Erik: I will likely use only, sorry, only use that lake as a destination for winter camping in the future.
[0:46:59 – 0:47:01] Erik: It’s very popular in the winter, though, too.
[0:47:01 – 0:47:02] Erik: A lot of people in there in the winter.
[0:47:02 – 0:47:04] Erik: It’s like McDonald’s of the east side.
[0:47:04 – 0:47:05] Erik: Yeah.
[0:47:05 – 0:47:15] Erik: Anywho, I stayed at what I think is Site 2 on the Danielson scale, which is the second campsite going clockwise from west to east.
[0:47:16 – 0:47:39] Erik: um yeah thank you that checks out yeah it is listed as 660 on panel planner and has a rating of two which is generous generous generous too yeah let me list my gripes about i hear the gripes first off oh wow got some gripes here this is a long long response got some grievances it sounds like maybe not so much gripes
[0:47:39 – 0:47:40] Erik: Yeah.
[0:47:40 – 0:47:42] Erik: First off, the landing is a craggy boulder field.
[0:47:43 – 0:47:48] Erik: The fire grate, while in a decent location, is festooned with only tree roots for footing.
[0:47:49 – 0:47:54] Erik: When you sit in your convenient folding camp chair, one or more feet sink into the earth and you inevitably tip over.
[0:47:55 – 0:48:00] Erik: There are very few, if any, decent tent pads, but a hammock camper might have better luck.
[0:48:01 – 0:48:04] Erik: Lastly, and worst of all, is all the climbing wall…
[0:48:06 – 0:48:11] Erik: Lastly, and worst of all, is the climbing wall you need to ascend slash descend in order to get to the latrine.
[0:48:12 – 0:48:12] Erik: Oh.
[0:48:12 – 0:48:22] Erik: My mother, who is 77 but still in great shape, really could not navigate that very well and ended up popping a squat somewhere in the valley at the foot of the Poop Mountain.
[0:48:23 – 0:48:24] Adam: Poop Mountain.
[0:48:24 – 0:48:30] Erik: The site was nothing but tree roots, rock gardens, and climbing wall latrine hikes.
[0:48:31 – 0:48:35] Erik: When you need a carabiner and a spotter to get up and down, the…
[0:48:36 – 0:48:56] Erik: uh expletive hole uh-huh it is hard to get a good peek lastly i’m pretty certain that the campsite just to the west was where tim walls’s son died from a tree oh no that’s not what happened there uh yeah hold up oh uh that uh the uh
[0:48:58 – 0:49:01] Erik: The site on Duncan that the guy was crushed by a tree.
[0:49:01 – 0:49:02] Erik: It wasn’t Tim Walls’ son.
[0:49:02 – 0:49:04] Adam: I don’t think it was that site either.
[0:49:05 – 0:49:07] Erik: Wasn’t it his brother?
[0:49:07 – 0:49:10] Adam: Yeah, maybe that’s right.
[0:49:11 – 0:49:13] Adam: I forgot about that connection there.
[0:49:13 – 0:49:16] Adam: I don’t think that was the site down to the west, though.
[0:49:16 – 0:49:19] Adam: I thought it was one of the ones up to the north from there.
[0:49:19 – 0:49:21] Erik: North of there, yeah.
[0:49:21 – 0:49:22] Adam: That’s my understanding.
[0:49:22 – 0:49:27] Erik: The ghouls on that site are pretty strong, and I’m not certain that some don’t frequent this horrible site as well.
[0:49:28 – 0:49:29] Erik: Enough for me.
[0:49:29 – 0:49:30] Erik: Enjoy paddling.
[0:49:31 – 0:49:32] Erik: Enjoy paddling.
[0:49:33 – 0:49:33] Erik: Yeah.
[0:49:33 – 0:49:34] Erik: Oh, we get a response.
[0:49:34 – 0:49:40] Erik: It wasn’t Tim Walls’ son, but it was his brother who died and the brother’s son who somehow miraculously survived.
[0:49:40 – 0:49:40] Erik: Oh.
[0:49:41 – 0:49:42] Erik: My family was out on that call.
[0:49:42 – 0:49:48] Erik: Great care from the volunteer first responders who carried and boated him out was the main reason that young man made it.
[0:49:49 – 0:49:50] Adam: Wow.
[0:49:51 – 0:49:53] Erik: Oh, it’s Sue from Bearskin.
[0:49:53 – 0:49:53] Erik: Wow.
[0:49:55 – 0:49:59] Adam: So you would never get a response from Sue at Bearskin on the subreddit.
[0:49:59 – 0:50:00] Erik: No, probably not.
[0:50:02 – 0:50:03] Adam: Facebook.
[0:50:03 – 0:50:04] Adam: It’s a good way to reach more people.
[0:50:05 – 0:50:07] Erik: And you know who you’re actually talking to right away.
[0:50:08 – 0:50:16] Erik: Yes, there’s a lot of good responses that go back and forth about the campsite and the winter and a couple of different responses.
[0:50:16 – 0:50:21] Erik: But then still, last comment, video of a crystal.
[0:50:21 – 0:50:22] Adam: Video of a different… And they’re all different crystals.
[0:50:23 – 0:50:25] Adam: I can see if this is just like the same one over and over.
[0:50:25 – 0:50:28] Adam: This guy’s really trying to hawk these crystals.
[0:50:29 – 0:50:30] Adam: What’s the…
[0:50:32 – 0:50:32] Adam: Oh, man.
[0:50:34 – 0:50:39] Adam: What’s the guy’s name who’s going to clip in and wants to check out that latrine?
[0:50:41 – 0:50:44] Erik: Oh, I don’t know.
[0:50:44 – 0:50:44] Erik: Shane Belay.
[0:50:45 – 0:50:45] Erik: I’m here to clip in.
[0:50:46 – 0:50:46] Erik: Skeet Belay.
[0:50:46 – 0:50:47] Erik: Skeet Belay.
[0:50:47 – 0:50:48] Erik: I’m here to clip in.
[0:50:49 – 0:50:50] Adam: Check out this latrine.
[0:50:50 – 0:50:51] Erik: Yeah.
[0:50:53 – 0:50:55] Erik: I’m pretty sure I know which site that they’re referencing.
[0:50:55 – 0:50:59] Erik: I don’t recall the hike up to the latrine being so intense.
[0:50:59 – 0:51:03] Adam: It would be this one on the corner here before the Narrows.
[0:51:03 – 0:51:05] Erik: Yeah, and there’s one down in the Narrows that’s even worse.
[0:51:05 – 0:51:08] Adam: Yeah, the one down in the Narrows is even worse, you think?
[0:51:08 – 0:51:08] Erik: Yeah.
[0:51:08 – 0:51:08] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:51:08 – 0:51:10] Erik: The one in the Narrows is like…
[0:51:10 – 0:51:12] Adam: I think I’ve stopped in there, but I don’t know.
[0:51:12 – 0:51:13] Erik: That one’s kind of hard to find.
[0:51:13 – 0:51:17] Adam: It is kind of hard to find.
[0:51:17 – 0:51:21] Adam: I don’t think I’ve found any map that’s located that one properly.
[0:51:21 – 0:51:29] Adam: It’s always farther in than you think you’ve got to go to get to it, so you just feel like, we should have passed it by now, according to every map I have on me.
[0:51:29 – 0:51:34] Adam: And then there it is, somewhere between where you thought it should have been and the portage up to Partridge, you find it.
[0:51:34 – 0:51:38] Erik: Yeah, it’s kind of a weird one in that little back slew back in there.
[0:51:38 – 0:51:42] Erik: Not really very much open water, kind of cramped and weird.
[0:51:42 – 0:51:44] Erik: And there’s a few trees down in there too.
[0:51:44 – 0:51:47] Adam: We hiked in there this winter to go up to Partridge for ice fishing.
[0:51:48 – 0:51:50] Adam: And it is this craggy back in that Narrows.
[0:51:51 – 0:51:52] Adam: Both sides.
[0:51:52 – 0:51:57] Adam: And yeah, I like fell down on that portage pretty bad and did like a somersault down the hill and…
[0:51:57 – 0:52:13] Adam: somehow didn’t spill even one drop of water out of the middle bucket wow that’s skill yeah and uh and grace and a little bit of luck all of the above thank you next up on the show dear friend of the show nate
[0:52:14 – 0:52:25] Adam: Well, let me tell you, folks, I’ve seen a lot in my time, but the redacted lake campsite in the BWCAW takes the cake for the worst camping experience ever.
[0:52:25 – 0:52:26] Adam: Why redacted?
[0:52:27 – 0:52:27] SPEAKER_01: I want to know.
[0:52:29 – 0:52:32] Adam: First off, the place is swarming with mosquitoes the size of small birds.
[0:52:32 – 0:52:34] Adam: I swear, I almost got carried away.
[0:52:34 – 0:52:37] Adam: And don’t get me started on the toilet situation.
[0:52:37 – 0:52:40] Adam: It’s just a hole in the ground, and it smells worse than anything you can imagine.
[0:52:40 – 0:52:47] Adam: The campsite itself is cramped and uneven, barely enough room to pitch a tent without rolling into the lake at night.
[0:52:47 – 0:52:49] Adam: Oh, and the lake?
[0:52:49 – 0:52:50] Adam: Forget about it.
[0:52:50 – 0:52:52] Adam: The water is murky and full of leeches.
[0:52:53 – 0:52:56] Adam: We couldn’t even enjoy a good swim, and don’t expect any scenic views.
[0:52:58 – 0:53:00] Adam: It’s all overgrown brush and noxious weeds.
[0:53:00 – 0:53:03] Adam: Honestly, I’ve had better camping experiences in my own backyard.
[0:53:03 – 0:53:06] Adam: Save yourself the trouble and skip Redacted Lake.
[0:53:06 – 0:53:07] Adam: It’s a nightmare.
[0:53:07 – 0:53:08] Erik: Redacted.
[0:53:08 – 0:53:09] Adam: I like it.
[0:53:09 – 0:53:11] Adam: Yeah, it truly is redacted, folks.
[0:53:11 – 0:53:12] Adam: I’m not just making that.
[0:53:13 – 0:53:16] Adam: Look at this tray of crystals for Redacted Lake.
[0:53:17 – 0:53:18] Adam: Jesus.
[0:53:19 – 0:53:22] Adam: It’s like set on like a…
[0:53:22 – 0:53:25] Erik: Some like Arabic newspaper, it looks like.
[0:53:25 – 0:53:28] Adam: You can see it’s dated 2026.
[0:53:29 – 0:53:29] Adam: What has happened now?
[0:53:29 – 0:53:31] Adam: Did we go through the portal?
[0:53:31 – 0:53:32] Erik: My God.
[0:53:32 – 0:53:35] Adam: Thank you, Nate, for the comment from Redacted Lake.
[0:53:36 – 0:53:38] Adam: You’re going to need some crystals to find that one on a map.
[0:53:38 – 0:53:39] Adam: That’s for sure.
[0:53:40 – 0:53:48] Adam: That one seems like a, I guess, you know, that’s just a generalized post on all the bad sites that you might read a review for.
[0:53:49 – 0:53:51] Adam: You failed to mention that it was badly burnt in the last fire, though.
[0:53:51 – 0:53:52] Adam: I’m pretty sure, Nate.
[0:53:52 – 0:53:53] Erik: Yeah.
[0:53:54 – 0:53:55] Adam: Badly burnt.
[0:53:57 – 0:53:58] Adam: It’s crispy, some would say.
[0:53:59 – 0:54:01] Adam: Like crispy beer for a pizza.
[0:54:04 – 0:54:06] Erik: I’m not 100% sure what to make of this one, but…
[0:54:08 – 0:54:14] Adam: Yeah, honestly, this is going a little too well, and these answers are all a little too normal.
[0:54:14 – 0:54:15] Erik: Yeah.
[0:54:15 – 0:54:16] Erik: This one’s from Keith.
[0:54:17 – 0:54:20] Erik: Any place that Tyler was at… Yeah.
[0:54:21 – 0:54:27] Erik: I didn’t think anything could ruin a BWCA trip until I went on a trip with Tyler.
[0:54:30 – 0:54:52] Erik: damn you tyler no fish still a good trip weedy campsite still a good trip yeah crazy mosquitoes still a good trip dealing with effing tyler need a break and even acknowledge the second w in bwcaw with tyler as he robs you of a wilderness experience
[0:54:53 – 0:54:59] Erik: I felt as surprised at this bad trip as Bigfoot felt right before he was shot in Strange Wilderness.
[0:55:01 – 0:55:02] Erik: Oh no.
[0:55:02 – 0:55:07] Erik: Had to go back home and watch Fantastic Planet to overcome my experience with Tyler.
[0:55:08 – 0:55:08] Adam: Oh man.
[0:55:09 – 0:55:11] Erik: I suggest you watch it too if you haven’t.
[0:55:11 – 0:55:13] Erik: It’ll explain so much.
[0:55:14 – 0:55:14] Adam: Okay.
[0:55:15 – 0:55:16] Adam: Tyler.
[0:55:17 – 0:55:18] Adam: Who’s the Tyler in your life?
[0:55:19 – 0:55:22] Erik: I don’t know if I have one that I’ve been out of the boundaries with that
[0:55:23 – 0:55:25] Adam: I don’t think I’ve ever been on a trip with somebody.
[0:55:26 – 0:55:29] Adam: Is Tyler joining the family with Bobby and Rex at this point?
[0:55:29 – 0:55:30] Erik: Yeah.
[0:55:30 – 0:55:33] Erik: It sounds like that’s a name of somebody who I could imagine would be.
[0:55:34 – 0:55:34] Adam: Keith and Tyler.
[0:55:38 – 0:55:38] Adam: That’s great.
[0:55:39 – 0:55:41] Adam: He didn’t get any crystal offers either.
[0:55:41 – 0:55:41] Adam: Yeah.
[0:55:41 – 0:55:43] Adam: He must have really, yeah.
[0:55:44 – 0:55:44] Adam: You could tell.
[0:55:44 – 0:55:46] Adam: Mazahir is a big fan of Tyler.
[0:55:46 – 0:55:48] Adam: You can’t be making fun of Tyler like that.
[0:55:48 – 0:55:50] Adam: He robs you of the wilderness experience.
[0:55:51 – 0:55:52] Adam: Wow.
[0:55:52 – 0:55:54] Adam: So we got to watch Fantastic Planet now, huh?
[0:55:54 – 0:55:57] Adam: Is that like a Nat Geo special?
[0:55:57 – 0:55:58] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:55:58 – 0:55:58] Adam: The British guy?
[0:55:59 – 0:55:59] Erik: Maybe.
[0:56:00 – 0:56:01] Erik: It says it will explain so much.
[0:56:01 – 0:56:02] Erik: All right.
[0:56:02 – 0:56:03] Erik: We’re going to have to go check that out.
[0:56:05 – 0:56:11] Adam: Next up on the show, the comment from Keith and Tyler was from last Sunday.
[0:56:11 – 0:56:16] Adam: So maybe Mazahir just hasn’t had time to find the right crystal for that comment.
[0:56:16 – 0:56:17] Erik: Yeah.
[0:56:17 – 0:56:20] Erik: He’s got to wait until…
[0:56:20 – 0:56:22] Erik: He doesn’t just send crystal picks to anybody.
[0:56:23 – 0:56:24] Erik: He’s thinking about it.
[0:56:24 – 0:56:25] Adam: Yeah.
[0:56:25 – 0:56:26] Adam: He’s putting a lot of thought into these offers.
[0:56:27 – 0:56:29] Adam: I hope somebody actually is taking them up on these now.
[0:56:29 – 0:56:33] Adam: I kind of have a spot in my heart for Mazahir in Pakistan.
[0:56:34 – 0:56:37] Adam: Our new friend of the show, Mazahir in Pakistan.
[0:56:38 – 0:56:41] Adam: Probably, I mean, how many people do you think are listening to Tumble Home in Pakistan?
[0:56:41 – 0:56:42] Adam: Is there any way we can check that in the analytics?
[0:56:44 – 0:56:44] Erik: Maybe.
[0:56:45 – 0:56:56] Adam: We got to maybe send… What’s the… We got to WhatsApp to Trevor and get him to check in on the analytics.
[0:56:56 – 0:56:57] Adam: Run that report for us.
[0:56:57 – 0:56:58] Adam: Yeah, I need him to run this report.
[0:56:58 – 0:57:00] Adam: I want it on my desk by Monday morning.
[0:57:01 – 0:57:02] Erik: We’ll see if we can track him down.
[0:57:02 – 0:57:04] Adam: Yeah, we’ll see if we can track him down.
[0:57:04 – 0:57:07] Adam: Next up on the show, Drew.
[0:57:08 – 0:57:10] Adam: Campsite 1270 in Ensign.
[0:57:10 – 0:57:13] Adam: Was that already mentioned by Steve earlier?
[0:57:13 – 0:57:13] Adam: Yeah.
[0:57:13 – 0:57:15] Adam: I thought that was like 1268.
[0:57:15 – 0:57:18] Adam: There’s a lot of stinkers out there on Ensign, I guess.
[0:57:19 – 0:57:20] Adam: Campsite 1270 on Ensign.
[0:57:21 – 0:57:24] Adam: It was the last night of our trip that started on the numbers chain.
[0:57:24 – 0:57:25] Erik: Pew, pew, pew.
[0:57:25 – 0:57:29] Adam: And Ensign was F-U-L-L full.
[0:57:31 – 0:57:38] Adam: We grabbed the first available campsite we saw, and it’s actually very spacious, but there is waist-high grass all around it with very little shade.
[0:57:38 – 0:57:40] Adam: It was a furnace.
[0:57:40 – 0:57:42] Adam: Landing was awful.
[0:57:42 – 0:57:48] Adam: Fire Great was the only saving grace, as it’s on a big flat rock with a great view of the lake.
[0:57:48 – 0:57:55] Adam: Brown Volcano is bee-central and was only advisable for nighttime visits when the bees were asleep.
[0:57:55 – 0:57:56] Adam: Two out of ten.
[0:57:56 – 0:57:57] Adam: Ha ha!
[0:57:58 – 0:58:23] Adam: when the bees are asleep yeah yeah sleeping bees yeah uh for a while for like a whole summer when lutsen still had its little nine hole disc golf course uh up there it was like by the t-box of nine or like if you really shanked a drive on three the ground there’s that ground hornets nest in there and like multiple people got like just ravaged by the by the hornets i guess they were
[0:58:24 – 0:58:36] Erik: Yeah, we were disc golfing one time with that kid that came down from Clearwater, and some elderly gentleman came over to help him look for his disc, and then he got hit.
[0:58:36 – 0:58:40] Erik: He got all stung up and just took off running, and we never saw him again.
[0:58:40 – 0:58:45] Adam: His hand was immediately all swollen up and distorted, and we’re like, geez, I hope that guy lives.
[0:58:46 – 0:59:15] Adam: ground wasps are nasty yeah the bees sleep at night which is good advice thank you drew uh he’s getting the mountain crystals for that one yeah that’s the same one actually so that’s a repeat crystal mazahir’s getting lazy over here yeah yeah all right there you go i’m uh about done with this first crispy beer from off color brewing this thing’s um really going down nice and easy
[0:59:17 – 0:59:19] Adam: Perfect for a humid day here in the North Shore.
[0:59:23 – 0:59:32] Erik: Matt, I saw a group of scouts camped along the entire width of a muddy and rocky portage on the Horse River.
[0:59:33 – 0:59:34] Erik: Complete chaos.
[0:59:34 – 0:59:36] Erik: Complete chaos.
[0:59:36 – 0:59:37] Erik: Gears strewn all over the place.
[0:59:37 – 0:59:38] Erik: River portage.
[0:59:38 – 0:59:39] Erik: They said they were lost.
[0:59:40 – 0:59:42] Erik: Awful place to spend a night.
[0:59:43 – 0:59:49] Erik: The most marginal site I’ve stayed at is the one near the nice lake portage on the Granite River.
[0:59:50 – 1:00:19] Erik: not awful in any particular way but it’s also not great it’s a very marginal site near bailey bay on basswood where i spent most of a day wind bound it was getting late so i scraped some wolf scat off the only spot big enough for a tent and prepared to spend the night there but an hour before sunset the wind abated i hastily threw my gear into the canoe and paddled a half my half mile to the five star site just west of beaver island i hope you brought the wolf scat with you
[1:00:19 – 1:00:40] Erik: yeah yeah the uh level the comments uh about people just camping camping where they shouldn’t and that’s the kind of yeah i’m sure that happens like way more often than you would think yeah uh we got joel short one here
[1:00:41 – 1:00:43] Erik: Campsite 1084 on Gun Lake.
[1:00:44 – 1:00:44] Erik: Good.
[1:00:44 – 1:00:45] Erik: Marshy.
[1:00:45 – 1:00:46] Erik: Not level ground.
[1:00:46 – 1:00:47] Erik: Could go on.
[1:00:48 – 1:00:49] Erik: Good stop for a break, maybe.
[1:00:50 – 1:00:50] Erik: About it.
[1:00:51 – 1:00:52] Adam: All right.
[1:00:52 – 1:00:53] Erik: Okay.
[1:00:54 – 1:00:55] Adam: It’s a common refrain.
[1:00:55 – 1:00:56] Adam: Have lunch here.
[1:00:56 – 1:00:56] Erik: Yeah.
[1:00:56 – 1:00:57] Adam: Don’t spend the night.
[1:00:58 – 1:00:58] SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
[1:01:00 – 1:01:00] Adam: Whoa.
[1:01:01 – 1:01:03] Adam: This guy’s kind of famous, I think.
[1:01:04 – 1:01:04] Adam: Oh, yeah?
[1:01:04 – 1:01:05] Adam: Jake Huey?
[1:01:06 – 1:01:07] Erik: Oh, kind of famous.
[1:01:07 – 1:01:09] Adam: He’s Facebook famous for sure.
[1:01:09 – 1:01:10] Adam: Yeah, sure.
[1:01:10 – 1:01:11] Adam: He’s into the dogs.
[1:01:11 – 1:01:12] Adam: Into the dogs.
[1:01:13 – 1:01:17] Adam: I’m pretty sure Hues understands Pronto.
[1:01:17 – 1:01:18] Erik: On to the doghouse.
[1:01:18 – 1:01:24] Adam: Hey, Jake, if you’re listening to this, stop out on Pronto Pub Lodge this winter when the bear race is back on.
[1:01:25 – 1:01:28] Adam: We’ll have a warm corndog and a cold one for you.
[1:01:30 – 1:01:31] Adam: Anyways, thanks for the comment.
[1:01:31 – 1:01:34] Adam: I’ll read it now instead of worrying about winter.
[1:01:34 – 1:01:39] Adam: Jake, one with four to five years worth of pine needles under the fire grate.
[1:01:39 – 1:01:40] Adam: That’s the worst one.
[1:01:40 – 1:01:44] Adam: Moss and nails sticking out of the rotten wood box latrine.
[1:01:45 – 1:01:46] Adam: Oh, and it was underwater?
[1:01:48 – 1:01:49] Adam: An underwater campsite.
[1:01:49 – 1:01:50] Adam: Nice.
[1:01:51 – 1:01:51] Adam: Flooded.
[1:01:51 – 1:01:52] Adam: Spooky.
[1:01:52 – 1:01:53] Adam: That is spooky.
[1:01:53 – 1:01:54] Adam: I don’t like things underwater.
[1:01:55 – 1:01:55] Adam: No.
[1:01:55 – 1:01:56] Adam: Especially a whole campsite.
[1:01:56 – 1:02:00] Adam: If I see a pirate ship underwater or a shipwreck, no good.
[1:02:01 – 1:02:01] Adam: Yeah.
[1:02:01 – 1:02:04] Adam: If I see a skeleton on the bottom of the lake, I don’t like that.
[1:02:05 – 1:02:07] Adam: I definitely don’t want to see a latrine underwater.
[1:02:08 – 1:02:10] Erik: Was it Thassalophobia?
[1:02:11 – 1:02:11] Erik: That’s it.
[1:02:11 – 1:02:13] Adam: Thassophobia, something like that?
[1:02:13 – 1:02:13] Adam: Yeah.
[1:02:13 – 1:02:13] Adam: Yeah.
[1:02:14 – 1:02:17] Adam: I mean, I don’t even want to see a rock down there if it’s too deep.
[1:02:18 – 1:02:18] Erik: No.
[1:02:18 – 1:02:19] Erik: No hatches, that’s for sure.
[1:02:20 – 1:02:20] Adam: Oh.
[1:02:20 – 1:02:28] Adam: Adrian was out on a stand-up paddleboard out on the big lake, and he said he just looked down at one point and he just saw a huge rock the size of a house underneath him way down there.
[1:02:28 – 1:02:29] Adam: He was like, oh, I don’t like that.
[1:02:30 – 1:02:30] Adam: Gross.
[1:02:30 – 1:02:30] Adam: Gross.
[1:02:31 – 1:02:34] Adam: Thanks for the comment, Jake, and we’ll see you at Pronto next year.
[1:02:35 – 1:02:38] Adam: Guaranteed, Pronto Pub Lodge will be completely above water.
[1:02:39 – 1:02:39] Adam: Not flooded.
[1:02:39 – 1:02:40] Adam: Not flooded.
[1:02:40 – 1:02:46] Adam: And the hot dogs, the Prontos, they’ll be piping hot.
[1:02:46 – 1:02:47] Erik: Extra crispy.
[1:02:47 – 1:02:49] Adam: Extra crispy, just like that beer was.
[1:02:50 – 1:02:53] Adam: Mazahir’s just giving all the same ones now.
[1:02:53 – 1:02:55] Adam: I’m taking another one here because I…
[1:02:59 – 1:03:02] Adam: We got next up on the show, Joel, and got to have this one.
[1:03:03 – 1:03:05] Adam: Got a love-hate relationship with Rib’s campsite.
[1:03:06 – 1:03:10] Adam: Quit cigarettes there on night one of a longer solo trip spent on Long Island.
[1:03:11 – 1:03:13] Adam: There isn’t a view of the lake once you get up there.
[1:03:13 – 1:03:19] Adam: Couldn’t handle a mid-to-large-sized group, and Rib is a lake you generally look forward to pushing through in either direction.
[1:03:19 – 1:03:19] Adam: This is true.
[1:03:21 – 1:03:23] Adam: I have lunched on rib.
[1:03:23 – 1:03:23] Adam: Lunched on rib?
[1:03:23 – 1:03:25] Adam: We talked about that a few times on the show.
[1:03:25 – 1:03:29] Adam: Had some pizza biters there with Natalie on our Frost River trip.
[1:03:30 – 1:03:32] Adam: And, yeah, you don’t want to stop on rib.
[1:03:32 – 1:03:33] Adam: It’s not a good spot to stop.
[1:03:33 – 1:03:38] Adam: It’s, like, too far from the entry point to, like, you don’t want to stop there at the end of your trip.
[1:03:39 – 1:03:43] Adam: And it’s too close to the entry point where you don’t want to stop there going in.
[1:03:43 – 1:03:47] Adam: Although, especially if you stay on snipe the night before.
[1:03:47 – 1:03:50] Erik: Yeah, I mean, it is not the greatest site either.
[1:03:50 – 1:03:51] Adam: It’s just not a good site.
[1:03:51 – 1:03:53] Erik: The lake is thick with bucinator.
[1:03:53 – 1:03:54] Erik: That’s true, though.
[1:03:54 – 1:03:55] Erik: Remember the bucinators?
[1:03:56 – 1:03:56] Adam: Mm-hmm.
[1:03:57 – 1:03:58] Adam: All right, there you go.
[1:03:58 – 1:03:59] Adam: Next up on the show is Kelly.
[1:04:00 – 1:04:02] Adam: Kelly.
[1:04:02 – 1:04:04] Adam: I got a little gravel in the voice.
[1:04:04 – 1:04:06] Adam: I might need a second crispy beer here, Eric.
[1:04:06 – 1:04:07] Erik: Crispy?
[1:04:07 – 1:04:08] Erik: Go get a crispy, boy.
[1:04:08 – 1:04:09] Adam: Yeah, I need one.
[1:04:10 – 1:04:15] Erik: Came up to one on Moose Lake that had just an awful stench.
[1:04:16 – 1:04:16] Adam: Ha!
[1:04:17 – 1:04:42] Erik: i’ve never heard this just like the campsite just smelled just a smelly site the first smelled like the previous campers had not properly disposed of the fish they cleaned and flies were just swarming the site all the sites we had passed previously were full and despite the fact that the next potentially open site was at least an hour paddle away and it was already coming up on dark we decided to skip the site take the risk of paddling in the dark
[1:04:43 – 1:04:44] Adam: Better in the dark it smelled that bad?
[1:04:44 – 1:04:45] Erik: I guess.
[1:04:45 – 1:04:47] Erik: Better that than to smell that stench all night.
[1:04:47 – 1:04:50] Erik: Potentially have my dog roll in it.
[1:04:50 – 1:04:51] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[1:04:51 – 1:04:52] Adam: If you have a dog with you, get out.
[1:04:52 – 1:04:53] Adam: Yeah.
[1:04:53 – 1:04:56] Erik: Or have a bear come into our site to check out the smell.
[1:04:56 – 1:04:56] Erik: Yeah.
[1:05:00 – 1:05:01] Adam: Yeah, I think that’s a first.
[1:05:01 – 1:05:02] Adam: Yeah.
[1:05:02 – 1:05:04] Adam: Just smelled bad.
[1:05:05 – 1:05:11] Adam: What are some other creative ways a site could be like unacceptable that we haven’t even thought of yet?
[1:05:12 – 1:05:13] Adam: Smells bad.
[1:05:13 – 1:05:17] Adam: I mean, I feel like we’ve even gone down the road of like this one feels haunted.
[1:05:17 – 1:05:20] Adam: Like, you know, that’s pretty, pretty esoteric.
[1:05:20 – 1:05:20] Erik: Yeah.
[1:05:25 – 1:05:28] Adam: We’ve even had it where people found notes like, don’t stay here.
[1:05:28 – 1:05:29] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[1:05:29 – 1:05:30] Adam: The bear warning.
[1:05:30 – 1:05:30] Adam: Yeah.
[1:05:30 – 1:05:31] Adam: But I don’t know.
[1:05:31 – 1:05:34] Adam: Never heard one that said, it just smells awful.
[1:05:34 – 1:05:34] Adam: Get out.
[1:05:34 – 1:05:35] Erik: It’s too stinky.
[1:05:35 – 1:05:36] Adam: Yeah, that’s funny.
[1:05:37 – 1:05:38] Adam: Next up on the show, Matthew.
[1:05:40 – 1:05:42] Adam: Which site is the worst, Matthew?
[1:05:42 – 1:05:42] Adam: None.
[1:05:43 – 1:05:48] Adam: If you want manicured grass and amenities, Minnesota has tremendous state parks.
[1:05:48 – 1:05:51] Adam: Expect wildlife and wilderness in the BWCAW.
[1:05:51 – 1:05:53] Adam: It is a different environment completely.
[1:05:53 – 1:05:54] Adam: Thank you, Matthew.
[1:05:55 – 1:05:56] Adam: There you have it.
[1:05:57 – 1:06:03] Adam: I mean, it’s essentially the answer we ended up coming up with, I think, personally, is that you can always find a good…
[1:06:03 – 1:06:06] Adam: There’s always something good about every site, probably.
[1:06:07 – 1:06:09] Adam: And even the really good sites can be bad in their own way.
[1:06:09 – 1:06:10] Adam: Yeah.
[1:06:10 – 1:06:15] Adam: But ultimately, if you’re having a bad time in camp, then something else has gone completely wrong.
[1:06:17 – 1:06:18] Adam: Or you’re camped on a portage.
[1:06:19 – 1:06:38] Adam: yeah or what about that matthew if you’re camped on portage is that still okay i don’t think so even matthew can’t condone that or if it’s stinky or if you’re out there with tyler or yeah what about what about if you’re out there with tyler god this is the kind of answer i thought we were going to get a lot of on facebook just uh you know
[1:06:39 – 1:06:46] Adam: I mean, the profile picture for this answer, I was expecting, like, you know, just a guy with, like, sunglasses on, like, in his truck or something.
[1:06:47 – 1:06:51] Adam: You know, a lot of those with this, like, all the campsites are beautiful.
[1:06:51 – 1:06:52] Adam: Just shut up.
[1:06:52 – 1:06:52] Adam: Yeah.
[1:06:53 – 1:06:56] Adam: But this was, like, that answer, but, like, nicely put, honestly.
[1:06:56 – 1:07:00] Adam: So this is the most polite version of that answer we could get in the profile pictures.
[1:07:00 – 1:07:03] Adam: Definitely just a cute child.
[1:07:03 – 1:07:04] Adam: So we can’t make fun of Matthew too much.
[1:07:04 – 1:07:05] Adam: Thank you for the comment.
[1:07:05 – 1:07:07] Adam: And thank you for listening to Humble Hum.
[1:07:08 – 1:07:09] Adam: We’re just having a little fun here.
[1:07:09 – 1:07:09] Adam: Yeah.
[1:07:10 – 1:07:11] Adam: And we basically agree with you.
[1:07:12 – 1:07:12] Adam: Pretty much.
[1:07:13 – 1:07:13] Adam: Pretty much.
[1:07:13 – 1:07:14] Adam: Next up on the show, Eric.
[1:07:16 – 1:07:20] Adam: on Mountain Lake at the base of the portage to a little lake that shall not be named.
[1:07:20 – 1:07:22] Adam: Eric and I have stayed at this site.
[1:07:23 – 1:07:24] Adam: And shall we name it?
[1:07:24 – 1:07:24] Adam: I don’t know.
[1:07:24 – 1:07:25] Adam: We probably shouldn’t.
[1:07:25 – 1:07:28] Erik: One of your first nights in a hammock, I believe.
[1:07:29 – 1:07:31] Adam: Yeah, I think it was my first night in a hammock.
[1:07:31 – 1:07:33] Adam: Oh, the writhing.
[1:07:33 – 1:07:34] Adam: That was my first writhing.
[1:07:36 – 1:07:37] Adam: Yeah, this is up in near Writhing Lake.
[1:07:37 – 1:07:41] Adam: It’s a really sweet lake for red horse.
[1:07:41 – 1:07:41] Adam: Yep.
[1:07:42 – 1:07:45] Adam: Best red horse lake in the whole Boundary Waters off a mountain.
[1:07:45 – 1:07:45] Adam: You figure it out.
[1:07:46 – 1:07:47] Erik: Red horse opportunities.
[1:07:49 – 1:08:09] Adam: uh nobody’s in the comments here like spoiling the name of the lake so i’m not going to spoil the name of the lake you guys can figure it out probably if you listen this far yeah into the show uh somebody did comment that they know the one well it’s always wet wet muddy and buggy it’s tough to spend the night we spent the night with like five of us in there
[1:08:09 – 1:08:11] Erik: Yeah, we jammed up in there.
[1:08:11 – 1:08:13] Erik: There was like some lean-to.
[1:08:13 – 1:08:17] Adam: Yeah, there was a weird survival shelter built in there too.
[1:08:17 – 1:08:23] Erik: One of those ones that they used to force you to make at like the camp, the YMCA camp that you had to go to in school or whatever.
[1:08:24 – 1:08:29] Adam: We did go up the portage to that mystery lake and it’s quite steep.
[1:08:29 – 1:08:30] Erik: It’s unmaintained.
[1:08:30 – 1:08:38] Adam: Yeah, you don’t see that too often, just a campsite with a portage to another lake in it, like right in it too.
[1:08:38 – 1:08:40] Adam: It wasn’t like it was just off to the side.
[1:08:40 – 1:08:42] Adam: It was like it went right through the middle of the campsite.
[1:08:42 – 1:08:43] Adam: Pretty odd.
[1:08:43 – 1:08:45] Erik: Right up to the latrine and then beyond.
[1:08:45 – 1:08:48] Adam: Yeah, the latrine’s right on the portage too.
[1:08:48 – 1:08:49] Adam: Pretty neat little setup there.
[1:08:50 – 1:08:51] Adam: Kind of jam that one in there.
[1:08:51 – 1:08:55] Adam: You might want to retire that site actually for a service if you’re out there listening to this.
[1:08:55 – 1:08:55] Erik: Shut her down.
[1:08:56 – 1:08:57] Adam: I listened.
[1:08:57 – 1:08:58] Adam: I watched Oppenheimer last night.
[1:08:59 – 1:08:59] Erik: Oh, wow.
[1:08:59 – 1:09:09] Adam: And yeah, you know, like the Forest Service probably does have like the FBI listening to these episodes for them, like taking notes, you know, listen to what these communists have to say.
[1:09:09 – 1:09:14] Adam: Our security clearances have been revoked several times over at this point.
[1:09:14 – 1:09:17] Adam: Neither Eric nor I are allowed to ever go near Los Alamos ever again.
[1:09:17 – 1:09:19] Adam: It’s probably true.
[1:09:19 – 1:09:21] Adam: It’s pretty sad, actually, because we have a lot to offer.
[1:09:22 – 1:09:23] Erik: That was your first viewing of it?
[1:09:23 – 1:09:24] Adam: Yeah.
[1:09:24 – 1:09:24] Adam: Yeah?
[1:09:24 – 1:09:32] Adam: The entanglement in my brain is still unraveling the storyline, but that was really well done.
[1:09:32 – 1:09:33] Adam: Classic Nolan.
[1:09:34 – 1:09:34] Erik: So you liked it?
[1:09:34 – 1:09:35] Adam: I loved it.
[1:09:35 – 1:09:35] Adam: Nice.
[1:09:36 – 1:09:36] Adam: Man.
[1:09:37 – 1:09:38] Adam: Casey Affleck?
[1:09:39 – 1:10:01] Adam: is uh boris pash he’s only in the movie for like five minutes i’m still like thinking about it intensely the next day he’s the interrogator a guy who’s like he’s personally killed a bunch of commies himself with his bare hands i can’t believe you said that to him yeah he’s just like the icy stare it’s been a year i saw it in theaters last year so it’s been a while since i have seen it
[1:10:02 – 1:10:07] Adam: Now, I don’t know, like 10 at night, I was like, I’m going to start Oppenheimer.
[1:10:07 – 1:10:09] Erik: Wow, that’s a choice.
[1:10:09 – 1:10:10] Adam: It’s over three hours.
[1:10:11 – 1:10:11] Adam: Yeah.
[1:10:11 – 1:10:12] Adam: I was up pretty late.
[1:10:12 – 1:10:14] Erik: It doesn’t feel like a three-hour movie, though.
[1:10:14 – 1:10:15] Erik: It goes by pretty quick.
[1:10:15 – 1:10:16] Adam: No, it does.
[1:10:16 – 1:10:19] Adam: I was like, I’ll just start it and just see how it goes.
[1:10:19 – 1:10:21] Adam: And then all of a sudden, it was like, well, I got a half hour to go.
[1:10:21 – 1:10:22] Adam: I’m definitely finishing this thing.
[1:10:23 – 1:10:23] Adam: It was great.
[1:10:24 – 1:10:24] Adam: It was good.
[1:10:25 – 1:10:25] Adam: I really liked it.
[1:10:25 – 1:10:25] Erik: I liked it.
[1:10:28 – 1:10:52] Adam: i’ll take one more huh sure i think we’re getting down there we’re getting close i think there is i got one more and then there’s one long one here i think is the last one for you so we’re doing pretty good here next up on the show nick out of the 11 i’ve stayed at overnight it would have to be the hike in sight on whale lake on the trail to eagle mountain wow wow yeah i didn’t think that was gonna get shouted out on this episode
[1:10:53 – 1:10:53] Adam: whale.
[1:10:55 – 1:10:56] Adam: It’s right up there with whipped.
[1:10:56 – 1:10:57] Erik: Whale?
[1:10:57 – 1:10:58] Adam: Brings it full circle.
[1:10:58 – 1:11:01] Adam: The whale to whipped connection has been maintained.
[1:11:01 – 1:11:02] Adam: It’s beautiful.
[1:11:03 – 1:11:06] Adam: The quantum entanglement between whale and whipped, it’s real.
[1:11:06 – 1:11:11] Adam: It’s palpable and it doesn’t make any sense, but your math is better than mine, Eric.
[1:11:12 – 1:11:13] Erik: I don’t know about that.
[1:11:13 – 1:11:14] Erik: I think so.
[1:11:14 – 1:11:14] Erik: Okay.
[1:11:14 – 1:11:16] Adam: What did Einstein say to you down by the pond?
[1:11:17 – 1:11:20] Erik: You’ll just have to wait three hours to find out.
[1:11:20 – 1:11:21] Adam: Yeah.
[1:11:22 – 1:11:24] Adam: It was worth the payoff to find out what he said.
[1:11:25 – 1:11:25] Adam: Sure.
[1:11:25 – 1:11:25] Adam: It was.
[1:11:26 – 1:11:32] Erik: How about that jump scare where he just popped out of the darkness on the street halfway through the movie?
[1:11:32 – 1:11:33] Adam: It’s Einstein.
[1:11:33 – 1:11:39] Adam: God, again, he’s just following us like the FBI trying to keep tabs on all the bad things we’ve said about the Forest Service.
[1:11:40 – 1:11:40] Erik: Yep.
[1:11:40 – 1:11:44] Adam: If the FBI, if you’re out there listening, what’s your favorite campsite in the Boundary Waters?
[1:11:45 – 1:11:45] Adam: Oh, that’s right.
[1:11:46 – 1:11:53] Adam: You’re sleeping in your cotton silken sheets, fancy beds.
[1:11:53 – 1:11:56] Adam: You would never dare to sleep in the Boundary Waters, FBI.
[1:11:56 – 1:11:58] Adam: Got them.
[1:11:58 – 1:11:59] Adam: Yeah, they’re listening now.
[1:11:59 – 1:12:00] Adam: They’re just weeping.
[1:12:01 – 1:12:02] Adam: That one really hurt, Adam.
[1:12:02 – 1:12:04] Adam: That was really unnecessary.
[1:12:06 – 1:12:07] Adam: I’m just going to start over.
[1:12:07 – 1:12:08] Adam: Sorry, Nick.
[1:12:08 – 1:12:14] Adam: Out of the 11 I’ve stayed at overnight, it would have to be the hiking site on Hoya Lake on the trail to Eagle Mountain.
[1:12:15 – 1:12:23] Adam: The site has a nice location on the lake and off the main trail to Eagle Mountain, but appears to have been visited by mostly Rexes and Bobbies.
[1:12:23 – 1:12:24] Adam: There you go.
[1:12:25 – 1:12:26] Adam: I can’t believe that.
[1:12:26 – 1:12:29] Adam: That’s pretty hard to get to with camping gear.
[1:12:29 – 1:12:30] Erik: It’s a little ways in there.
[1:12:30 – 1:12:31] Erik: It’s not that far in though.
[1:12:32 – 1:12:34] Adam: Yeah, I’ve only ever… Eagle Mountain Trailhead side.
[1:12:34 – 1:12:38] Adam: Yeah, I’ve just hiked into Eagle Mountain and I’ve never actually checked out the site.
[1:12:39 – 1:12:40] Adam: Whale Lake looked pretty nice.
[1:12:41 – 1:12:44] Adam: Got to be one of the higher elevation lakes out there.
[1:12:44 – 1:12:45] Erik: It does look like a nice lake.
[1:12:45 – 1:12:46] Adam: What a cool lake name.
[1:12:47 – 1:12:49] Adam: Let’s see what kind of crystal we got for this one.
[1:12:50 – 1:12:51] Adam: Oh yeah, look at that butte.
[1:12:52 – 1:13:14] Adam: oh it does sort of look like a whale spinning nicely he’s got the lazy susan what do you think they call lazy susan in pakistan uh don’t answer that you don’t answer that eric all right that’ll bring us to the final comment fish brain fish brain shane is that your real name
[1:13:15 – 1:13:16] Erik: That’s the name on here.
[1:13:16 – 1:13:19] Erik: Holding a couple of bass, it looks like, in the picture.
[1:13:20 – 1:13:22] Erik: Two years ago, I was 360 pounds.
[1:13:23 – 1:13:29] Erik: After 120 pounds of weight loss, I will be making my third trip to the Bajau waters in a couple weeks.
[1:13:29 – 1:13:30] Adam: Way to go, fish brain.
[1:13:30 – 1:13:32] Erik: Been listening for a few months now.
[1:13:32 – 1:13:32] Erik: Great show.
[1:13:33 – 1:13:44] Erik: The worst campsite ever for us is the last campsite right before the portage out of Pine Lake, just east of Trout Lake in the Western District.
[1:13:44 – 1:13:45] Adam: Oh, that pine.
[1:13:46 – 1:13:47] Erik: I see.
[1:13:47 – 1:13:48] Adam: Okay.
[1:13:48 – 1:13:50] Erik: There it is, right there.
[1:13:50 – 1:13:51] Erik: That’s a good-sized lake.
[1:13:51 – 1:13:53] Erik: Yeah, that’s a good-sized lake.
[1:13:53 – 1:13:58] Erik: The landing was nothing short of treacherous, narrow, deep, and not even rocks to get out on.
[1:13:58 – 1:13:59] Erik: Hmm, what was it?
[1:14:02 – 1:14:04] Adam: Crystals, it’s all goddamn crystals.
[1:14:04 – 1:14:05] Adam: Crystals all the way down.
[1:14:05 – 1:14:10] Erik: The site itself was grassy, but there was no discernible tent pads at all.
[1:14:11 – 1:14:17] Erik: The latrine was perched on a set of boulders very far away from camp and nowhere near easily accessible.
[1:14:18 – 1:14:26] Erik: The fire grate was in the center of the grassy area, making it difficult to imagine having a fire and putting a tent in the same area.
[1:14:27 – 1:14:27] Adam: Horrible.
[1:14:28 – 1:14:28] Adam: Horrible.
[1:14:28 – 1:14:35] Erik: Unlike your bearable and adequate podcast I’ve been hearing in my earbuds.
[1:14:35 – 1:14:35] Erik: What?
[1:14:36 – 1:14:36] Adam: We are adequate.
[1:14:38 – 1:14:39] Adam: We are adequate businessmen.
[1:14:39 – 1:14:40] Erik: Thank you.
[1:14:40 – 1:14:40] Erik: Horrible.
[1:14:41 – 1:14:44] Erik: Unlike your bearable and adequate podcast.
[1:14:44 – 1:14:46] Adam: I think that was a compliment.
[1:14:46 – 1:14:49] Adam: I think that was a compliment.
[1:14:50 – 1:14:57] Erik: One last looks like a plate full of pulled teeth that Mazahir has attached.
[1:14:57 – 1:14:58] Erik: Ha ha!
[1:14:58 – 1:14:59] Adam: What are those?
[1:14:59 – 1:15:00] Erik: Crystals, I guess.
[1:15:00 – 1:15:02] Erik: But they look like tooth.
[1:15:02 – 1:15:04] Adam: Yeah, those look like crystallized teeth.
[1:15:04 – 1:15:05] Adam: Teeth with like the root.
[1:15:05 – 1:15:06] Adam: What the hell?
[1:15:06 – 1:15:07] Erik: Look at how deep the root goes.
[1:15:08 – 1:15:11] Adam: Do you think Fishbrain’s into that kind of stuff, Mazahir?
[1:15:11 – 1:15:11] Adam: Get it, life.
[1:15:12 – 1:15:13] Erik: Fishbrain Shane.
[1:15:13 – 1:15:14] Adam: What the hell?
[1:15:14 – 1:15:15] Adam: Seriously.
[1:15:15 – 1:15:21] Adam: Well, that whole area over there is going to end up being, you know, prairie scenario, obviously.
[1:15:21 – 1:15:24] Adam: So that one’s just ahead of its time.
[1:15:25 – 1:15:25] Adam: All right.
[1:15:26 – 1:15:27] Adam: Where was this comment?
[1:15:28 – 1:15:29] Adam: I just went back.
[1:15:29 – 1:15:31] Adam: I clicked back and now there’s a different comment up here.
[1:15:32 – 1:15:33] Adam: We didn’t read this one.
[1:15:34 – 1:15:34] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[1:15:34 – 1:15:35] Erik: How did we miss that one?
[1:15:35 – 1:15:36] Adam: I don’t know.
[1:15:36 – 1:15:37] Adam: It was on all comments mode.
[1:15:38 – 1:15:40] Adam: I better click around just to make sure we haven’t missed any other ones.
[1:15:40 – 1:15:41] Adam: This is from Amy.
[1:15:41 – 1:15:42] Erik: Just click around.
[1:15:42 – 1:15:43] Adam: Just click around a little bit.
[1:15:43 – 1:15:45] Adam: See what the algorithm gives you.
[1:15:45 – 1:15:47] Erik: I’m glad our podcast is bearable and adequate.
[1:15:47 – 1:15:51] Adam: Yeah, this is why it’s adequate because we’re so good at Facebook.
[1:15:51 – 1:15:55] Adam: But dismissive sometimes of its content.
[1:15:56 – 1:15:59] Adam: Amy says, this is the worst mother bleepin’ sight in the whole park.
[1:15:59 – 1:16:02] Adam: Samuel L. Jackson, 1862.
[1:16:02 – 1:16:02] Adam: 1862.
[1:16:02 – 1:16:03] Adam: Nice.
[1:16:04 – 1:16:05] Adam: I’ll give that a like.
[1:16:05 – 1:16:08] Adam: That one’s earned a like, and it’s pinwheeling.
[1:16:09 – 1:16:09] Adam: There we go.
[1:16:09 – 1:16:11] Adam: That was under most relevant.
[1:16:11 – 1:16:12] Adam: That was from Thursday.
[1:16:13 – 1:16:13] Adam: Wow.
[1:16:13 – 1:16:13] Adam: Thank you, Amy.
[1:16:14 – 1:16:15] Adam: Just in the nick of time.
[1:16:18 – 1:16:22] Adam: None of them other ones in here seemed like they were new comments either, even though.
[1:16:23 – 1:16:41] Adam: maybe we just scrolled past that i guess i don’t know uh keith’s comment was from last sunday so i guess that one was probably we got a couple was that the anti tyler uh yeah that was keith and tyler yeah bad tyler bad tyler bad bad tyler is that the episode title
[1:16:41 – 1:17:00] Erik: bad tyler i was thinking maybe uh adequate and uh bearable i don’t know we’ll figure something out this is the only this is a one parter we’re not reading any more facebook comments so don’t yeah we’ve there’s a lot more in here but that’s as far as we’re gonna go tonight and that’s it for facebook so
[1:17:00 – 1:17:24] Adam: thanks that’s our we’ll be back on facebook again in 2028 yeah after the next olympics yeah uh who knows what mitchum film we’ll select for the post there should we boost the post eric we can pay in crystals it says oh yeah where can we get some crystals though i don’t know we’ll have to probably uh go down to we’ll probably have to go to sedona take a road trip sure road trip to sedona
[1:17:26 – 1:17:27] Adam: Wait a second.
[1:17:27 – 1:17:30] Adam: No, somebody named Tyler just liked our page 38 minutes ago.
[1:17:30 – 1:17:30] Erik: Oh, no.
[1:17:31 – 1:17:33] Adam: Tyler, don’t read too deep.
[1:17:34 – 1:17:37] Adam: I tried to click on the page, but it says it’s invalid.
[1:17:37 – 1:17:38] Adam: Facebook.
[1:17:38 – 1:17:39] Adam: What are you doing?
[1:17:41 – 1:17:43] Erik: Well, that wasn’t as bad as I thought it was going to be.
[1:17:43 – 1:17:48] Erik: It was quite thoughtful responses from most people, I think.
[1:17:49 – 1:17:50] Adam: The address is invalid?
[1:17:50 – 1:17:52] Adam: No wonder nobody likes Tyler.
[1:17:54 – 1:17:55] Adam: I don’t like that, Tyler.
[1:17:55 – 1:17:57] Adam: Anyways, that’s pretty good.
[1:17:57 – 1:17:58] Adam: 54 comments, though.
[1:17:58 – 1:17:59] Adam: Half of them crystal sales.
[1:18:00 – 1:18:02] Erik: Pretty good ratio for a Facebook post.
[1:18:02 – 1:18:03] Adam: Pretty good ratio.
[1:18:04 – 1:18:04] Adam: Not bad.
[1:18:04 – 1:18:07] Erik: Yeah, classic ratio.
[1:18:09 – 1:18:11] Erik: With, yeah, some pretty good responses.
[1:18:13 – 1:18:33] Erik: Brought some new concepts to the conversation about what makes a bad campsite bad, what, you know, externally can cause a campsite to be bad, you know, a la Tyler, bugs, even a five-star site with its bobby sticks and erosion issues.
[1:18:34 – 1:18:38] Erik: These are all things we didn’t really touch on in last week’s, you know.
[1:18:39 – 1:19:04] Adam: poison ivy existence you know or no like no pretty good area to put a tent pad but no area to break dance no have you ever really danced in a boundary waters campsite break dance or waltz or any kind of dancing polka dance yeah oh yeah you’ve danced i don’t know if i’ve ever really let let loose have i ever cut a rug in the boundary waters
[1:19:05 – 1:19:34] Adam: yeah i mean some of those uh they’re not technically uh on a campsite but i feel like there’s been uh dancing on a swamp like uh quite a few times oh sure yeah dancing on the ice yeah yeah yeah boundary waters dancing yeah that’s uh a different kind of break dancing yeah it’s a you’re not we’re not b boys we’re bwca boys yep that’s a throw down the piece of cardboard and let’s spin
[1:19:34 – 1:19:36] Erik: Yeah, pack some extra cardboard with.
[1:19:39 – 1:19:41] Adam: Just take it out of the food pack.
[1:19:41 – 1:19:41] Adam: Yeah.
[1:19:41 – 1:19:43] Adam: Once it gets a little degraded.
[1:19:43 – 1:19:47] Erik: Yeah, just pack, you know, like the old cardboard box you used to put in there.
[1:19:47 – 1:19:48] Erik: That’s the one.
[1:19:49 – 1:19:56] Erik: Once that breaks down enough and you’re out of food towards the end of the trip, you just pull it out, break it down, and do whatever they do.
[1:19:56 – 1:19:56] Erik: I don’t know.
[1:19:56 – 1:19:57] Erik: Do one of the moves.
[1:19:57 – 1:20:02] Adam: Just make sure your cardboard is semi-palmated, though, otherwise it’s not going to spin right.
[1:20:02 – 1:20:04] Erik: Yeah, semi-palmated.
[1:20:05 – 1:20:08] Erik: Not fully and not half.
[1:20:09 – 1:20:10] Adam: I had a weird dream.
[1:20:10 – 1:20:16] Adam: I normally don’t like to share my dreams, but this one was directly related to tonight’s topic.
[1:20:17 – 1:20:17] Adam: I had a dream last night.
[1:20:18 – 1:20:18] Adam: Do you ever get this one?
[1:20:20 – 1:20:29] Adam: You’re in a campsite, and it was me and one of my coworkers, Matt, at the co-op, who I’ve not actually camped with ever, I don’t think.
[1:20:30 – 1:20:37] Adam: We were camped up on a site, but then it was one of those dreams where people just kept showing up until we were way over the group limit.
[1:20:37 – 1:20:38] Adam: It was a small campsite.
[1:20:39 – 1:20:42] Adam: I wouldn’t say it was a good campsite we were in to begin with.
[1:20:42 – 1:20:44] Erik: Was it clearly a Boundary Waters campsite?
[1:20:44 – 1:20:47] Adam: We were definitely in the Boundary Waters, but it wasn’t like a site I knew.
[1:20:47 – 1:20:49] Adam: It wasn’t like a known site.
[1:20:49 – 1:20:54] Adam: This was like a site that is generated by my subconscious, if that makes sense.
[1:20:55 – 1:20:56] Adam: But it had enough room for the two of us.
[1:20:58 – 1:21:06] Adam: It was one of those dreams, too, where we’re having a hard time paddling, where the canoe was just spinning around in circles as we were paddling instead of going straight.
[1:21:06 – 1:21:07] Adam: It had too much rocker.
[1:21:09 – 1:21:09] Adam: And it was real windy.
[1:21:10 – 1:21:11] Adam: And we finally got to this campsite.
[1:21:11 – 1:21:12] Adam: We pull in.
[1:21:12 – 1:21:14] Adam: It’s small, but we can make this work.
[1:21:14 – 1:21:17] Adam: But then people just kept showing up for the rest of the dream.
[1:21:17 – 1:21:19] Adam: We had 25 people in the campsite.
[1:21:19 – 1:21:25] Adam: And then at one point, another guy we used to work with showed up with two extra aluminum canoes he was dragging with him.
[1:21:25 – 1:21:28] Adam: And people were hanging canoes in the trees.
[1:21:28 – 1:21:29] Adam: And that’s when I woke up.
[1:21:30 – 1:21:46] Adam: i love that you started that with like you ever uh have one of these dreams a dream where you’re in the boundary waters where like you got too many people in your group i guess is the kind of dream i would that’s how i’d categorize that is like uh it was a nightmare and because we were breaking you know the rules yeah no i know
[1:21:46 – 1:21:49] Adam: But nobody else seemed to care at all about that, and everybody was having a really good time.
[1:21:49 – 1:21:55] Adam: So I was actively trying not to be like, hey, guys, come on, keep it together here.
[1:21:56 – 1:22:06] Adam: This ain’t necessarily legal, but everybody was having such a good time that I couldn’t voice my concern that we were trampling the campsite and hanging canoes in the trees.
[1:22:06 – 1:22:10] Adam: Nobody was set up for the night, but there was nowhere to set anything else up.
[1:22:10 – 1:22:11] Adam: And it’s like, where are all these people going to sleep?
[1:22:12 – 1:22:13] Adam: And then I woke up.
[1:22:13 – 1:22:14] Erik: Boundary Waters stress dream?
[1:22:15 – 1:22:15] Adam: Yeah.
[1:22:15 – 1:22:15] Adam: Why was that?
[1:22:15 – 1:22:16] Adam: That’s weird.
[1:22:16 – 1:22:17] Adam: That was a weird time to have it, too.
[1:22:17 – 1:22:20] Erik: No, I don’t think I’ve ever really had a Boundary Waters dream like that before.
[1:22:20 – 1:22:21] Adam: Well, I don’t know.
[1:22:21 – 1:22:24] Adam: It was weird because it was a little stressful, but also everybody was having a good time.
[1:22:24 – 1:22:26] Erik: It kind of sounds like a fun dream.
[1:22:26 – 1:22:27] Adam: Yeah.
[1:22:27 – 1:22:29] Adam: We’ll just say it wasn’t a Boundary Waters campsite.
[1:22:29 – 1:22:30] Adam: Sure.
[1:22:30 – 1:22:30] Adam: I was mistaken.
[1:22:31 – 1:22:31] Erik: Yeah.
[1:22:31 – 1:22:33] Erik: Just so the Forest Service doesn’t get mad.
[1:22:33 – 1:22:33] Adam: Yeah.
[1:22:34 – 1:22:35] Adam: Even in your dreams.
[1:22:36 – 1:22:38] Adam: The FBI is on to you, even in your dreams.
[1:22:38 – 1:22:39] Erik: You’re thinking it.
[1:22:39 – 1:22:40] Adam: You pinko.
[1:22:41 – 1:22:45] Adam: You’re getting shipped back to Vladivostok.
[1:22:45 – 1:22:45] Adam: Yeah.
[1:22:45 – 1:22:46] Adam: Camping like that.
[1:22:46 – 1:22:48] Erik: I hope you got a lot of crystals saved up.
[1:22:48 – 1:22:49] Erik: You’re going to need them.
[1:22:51 – 1:22:52] Adam: All right.
[1:22:52 – 1:22:58] Adam: Thanks for the bucket of blood stickers and the delicious crispy beer pizza Italian lagers.
[1:22:58 – 1:23:00] Adam: I don’t know what this would be.
[1:23:00 – 1:23:04] Adam: If you blindfolded me and gave me this beer, I don’t think I would describe it as an Italian lager.
[1:23:04 – 1:23:05] Erik: Have you ever had a Peroni?
[1:23:06 – 1:23:09] Adam: I don’t think so, and I don’t know that I’ve ever had an Italian lager.
[1:23:09 – 1:23:10] Adam: What’s a Peroni?
[1:23:11 – 1:23:14] Erik: A Peroni, it’s like a… Is it like a pierogi?
[1:23:14 – 1:23:16] Erik: No, it’s like, it’s just an Italian beer.
[1:23:17 – 1:23:18] Adam: Oh, okay.
[1:23:18 – 1:23:20] Adam: It’s like the Italian beer.
[1:23:20 – 1:23:22] Erik: Well, I don’t know if it’s the Italian beer.
[1:23:22 – 1:23:23] Adam: It’s the official beer of Italy.
[1:23:23 – 1:23:29] Erik: Yeah, it’s, I don’t know if… Yeah, you’ve probably seen them before.
[1:23:29 – 1:23:29] Adam: Maybe I have.
[1:23:30 – 1:23:30] Adam: I’ve been to Italy.
[1:23:30 – 1:23:32] SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
[1:23:33 – 1:23:36] Adam: I’ll go ahead and say 50% chance.
[1:23:36 – 1:23:38] Erik: They’re just like your European green bottle.
[1:23:39 – 1:23:39] Erik: Yeah.
[1:23:39 – 1:23:40] Erik: It’s Italian.
[1:23:40 – 1:23:41] Erik: It’s Italian.
[1:23:41 – 1:23:43] Erik: Mastro Azzurro Italiana.
[1:23:43 – 1:23:44] Adam: Looks great.
[1:23:45 – 1:23:51] Adam: Thank you, Alyssa and John, for the Italian ales and the beautiful handmade greeting card.
[1:23:51 – 1:23:52] Adam: Very nice.
[1:23:52 – 1:23:56] Adam: That will hold near to my heart for the rest of this week.
[1:23:56 – 1:23:57] Adam: Thank you.
[1:23:59 – 1:23:59] Erik: All right.
[1:24:00 – 1:24:00] Adam: All right.
[1:24:00 – 1:24:02] Adam: Well, thanks for being here for this late night record, Eric.
[1:24:02 – 1:24:03] Adam: Yeah, it’s a real pleasure.
[1:24:05 – 1:24:05] Erik: Yeah.
[1:24:05 – 1:24:06] Adam: I’m working early tomorrow.
[1:24:06 – 1:24:07] Adam: I don’t know about you.
[1:24:07 – 1:24:07] Erik: So am I.
[1:24:08 – 1:24:08] Adam: All right.
[1:24:08 – 1:24:08] Adam: Yeah.
[1:24:09 – 1:24:10] Adam: Well, good luck.
[1:24:10 – 1:24:15] Erik: Nothing to look forward to the rest of the night except for closing my eyes.
[1:24:16 – 1:24:18] Adam: Oh, I hope you don’t have any nightmares.
[1:24:19 – 1:24:20] Adam: I hope you have only sweet dreams.
[1:24:20 – 1:24:22] Erik: I don’t have nightmares too often.
[1:24:22 – 1:24:24] Adam: Just Italian dreams.
[1:24:24 – 1:24:26] Erik: Just Italian dreams, yeah.
[1:24:26 – 1:24:26] Adam: Yeah.
[1:24:26 – 1:24:29] Adam: I don’t think I’ve really had a true nightmare in a long time.
[1:24:30 – 1:24:31] Adam: That was as close as it gets.
[1:24:31 – 1:24:33] Adam: Oh, God, we had 25 people in a Boundary Waters site.
[1:24:34 – 1:24:34] Adam: Yeah.
[1:24:34 – 1:24:36] Adam: I mean, a non-Boundary Waters site.
[1:24:36 – 1:24:36] Adam: The horror.
[1:24:38 – 1:24:39] Adam: All right, well, thanks for being here.
[1:24:39 – 1:24:44] Adam: As we always say on Tomahome, life is precious and every campsite is a miracle.
[1:24:45 – 1:24:49] Adam: That was a fun little series on bad campsites, and who knows what next week will bring.
[1:24:49 – 1:24:51] Adam: Thanks for being here, and thanks for listening, everyone.
[1:24:51 – 1:24:52] Adam: Arrivederci.
[1:25:47 – 1:25:50] SPEAKER_01: The chance is alone.