127: Ask Us Anything, Once

Episode Transcript

[0:00:00 – 0:00:00] Rando Music Clip: so so
[0:00:30 – 0:00:35] Adam Singing-ish: Welcome to Tumble Home, a Boundary Waters podcast.
[0:00:35 – 0:00:39] Adam: My name’s Adam, coming to you live from Studio K, joined by my best friend, Eric.
[0:00:39 – 0:00:40] Adam: Hi, Eric.
[0:00:40 – 0:00:41] Erik: Happy New Year.
[0:00:41 – 0:00:42] Erik: Hey, welcome to Tumble Home.
[0:00:42 – 0:00:44] Erik: Welcome to 2021.
[0:00:44 – 0:00:49] Erik: Any grand predictions that you’d like to maybe make for this year that we can come back at the end of the year?
[0:00:49 – 0:00:52] Erik: The lizard people are coming from the center of the earth.
[0:00:52 – 0:00:54] Erik: They’re going to come from the center of the earth?
[0:00:54 – 0:00:55] Adam: They’re below us the whole time.
[0:00:56 – 0:00:56] Adam: Wow.
[0:00:56 – 0:00:57] Adam: Or within us.
[0:00:58 – 0:00:58] Adam: Who’s to say?
[0:00:58 – 0:01:03] Erik: Yeah, they’re just going to shed their human skins.
[0:01:03 – 0:01:05] Adam: Oh, that’s terrifying.
[0:01:05 – 0:01:06] Adam: That would be terrifying.
[0:01:06 – 0:01:09] Adam: I was thinking of them coming out of a volcano or something.
[0:01:10 – 0:01:11] Erik: Now, could you imagine if you were on a flight?
[0:01:12 – 0:01:12] Erik: What?
[0:01:12 – 0:01:14] Adam Singing-ish: You’re on a flight?
[0:01:14 – 0:01:14] Erik: Yeah.
[0:01:15 – 0:01:15] Erik: Oh, no.
[0:01:16 – 0:01:17] Erik: All of a sudden, like…
[0:01:18 – 0:01:44] Erik: all of the lizard people just start shedding their skins or if you’re you’re boarding and you look you get that you don’t get that opportunity as much anymore right where when you’re boarding you can like see in the cockpit i think maybe for a second there it’s like kind of open but like one of the one of the pilots like has like a fork tongue or something yeah no he blinks with like the uh the blinkers going the wrong way oh yeah pupils are up right on blinker wink
[0:01:46 – 0:01:55] Erik: Yeah, it is 2021, and we are brought to you as always by our fine, fine friends on Patreon.
[0:01:55 – 0:01:58] Erik: Hope you’re enjoying the December content.
[0:01:58 – 0:02:03] Erik: We had a little Santa destroys, conquers.
[0:02:03 – 0:02:06] Erik: We never really discussed, how does he actually conquer the Martians?
[0:02:06 – 0:02:08] Erik: With his bowl full of jelly.
[0:02:08 – 0:02:09] Erik: With his cheerfulness?
[0:02:09 – 0:02:09] Erik: Yeah.
[0:02:09 – 0:02:09] Erik: Ha!
[0:02:11 – 0:02:12] Erik: Ho, ho, ho.
[0:02:12 – 0:02:21] Erik: That one has nothing to do with the outdoors and any other sense of the word in our Tumble Home Cinema Classics series that you can find on our Patreon page.
[0:02:22 – 0:02:26] Erik: But then we did last week review Grumpy Old Men, which is right in the wheelhouse.
[0:02:27 – 0:02:50] Erik: yeah it’s a ice fishing movie and a christmas movie it’s a beautiful thing yeah somehow i didn’t even realize it was a christmas movie because it was the first time i had actually sat down and watched it um and then uh this is the month this is the month of dog sledding so we’re gonna try to watch as many dog sledding movies as possible probably gonna start with iron will toby mcteague toby mcteague maybe maybe we’ll get some paul walker a below
[0:02:53 – 0:02:54] Erik: What’s the other Cuba Gooding Jr. one?
[0:02:56 – 0:02:58] Erik: Sled dogs or snow dogs?
[0:02:58 – 0:02:58] Adam: Snow dogs.
[0:02:58 – 0:02:59] Adam: Snow dogs.
[0:02:59 – 0:03:09] Adam: He’s a dentist that inherits a dog sled team, but he must win a race in order to save his dentist practice.
[0:03:09 – 0:03:12] Erik: You actually do have an idea on what the plot is about?
[0:03:12 – 0:03:13] Adam: Something like that.
[0:03:13 – 0:03:14] Adam: It’s pretty close.
[0:03:14 – 0:03:16] Adam: I’m going to say give me a B- on that synopsis.
[0:03:17 – 0:03:20] Erik: Okay, well, you look forward to dog sledding content in January.
[0:03:20 – 0:03:27] Erik: I would say that’s probably what we’re going to focus on, maybe even more than the regimented two episodes, because there are so many dog sled episodes.
[0:03:28 – 0:03:38] Erik: It’s the middle of winter, and unfortunately, a couple of races have already been canceled, but we are still hoping a Bear Grylls Pronto Pop experience will still occur.
[0:03:38 – 0:03:41] Adam: We can go out there no matter what and give ourselves the prize.
[0:03:41 – 0:03:43] Erik: We could just go out and camp on the lake, sure.
[0:03:44 – 0:03:47] Adam: We can each bring our dog and we can race around the lake.
[0:03:47 – 0:03:50] Erik: Yeah, we’ve got kick sleds and other people that we know that have dogs.
[0:03:52 – 0:03:54] Adam: We’ll do a ski jour, Bear Grease.
[0:03:56 – 0:03:57] Adam: Just do the whole course by ourselves.
[0:03:57 – 0:03:59] Adam: Take a whole month.
[0:03:59 – 0:04:00] Erik: Oh, man.
[0:04:00 – 0:04:02] Adam: I won the Bear Grease in 2021.
[0:04:03 – 0:04:05] Adam: Just you and Arrow camping out on the trail.
[0:04:05 – 0:04:06] Erik: Nobody else even raced.
[0:04:06 – 0:04:07] Erik: Eating hot dogs.
[0:04:07 – 0:04:09] Adam: That’s why she’s the champ, baby.
[0:04:09 – 0:04:09] Adam: Yep.
[0:04:10 – 0:04:11] Adam: That’s why she’s the champ.
[0:04:11 – 0:04:14] Adam: Today’s episode of Tumble Home is episode 0126.
[0:04:14 – 0:04:14] Adam: Mm-mm.
[0:04:18 – 0:04:20] Adam: Zero, one, two, six?
[0:04:20 – 0:04:21] Adam: Seven.
[0:04:21 – 0:04:22] Adam: Are you sure?
[0:04:22 – 0:04:22] Adam: Yeah.
[0:04:23 – 0:04:25] Adam: We’re going to check the records on that one.
[0:04:25 – 0:04:27] Adam: The Madness of Winter was one, two, six.
[0:04:27 – 0:04:29] Adam: Oh, that’s why I don’t have any notes on that one.
[0:04:29 – 0:04:30] Erik: You didn’t take any notes on that episode?
[0:04:32 – 0:04:40] Adam: The Ron Scher Outdoor Calendar Fact of the Day for January 2nd is have a sober Happy New Year.
[0:04:40 – 0:04:47] Adam: Sunset’s at 4.43 p.m. One of these days I’ll get sober.
[0:04:48 – 0:04:55] Erik: I’m definitely much more sober today than I have been, I would say, over the course of the last Christmas week.
[0:04:55 – 0:05:01] Erik: It’s always just a brutalizing week of, I’m not prepared to drink again, but here we are.
[0:05:01 – 0:05:05] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:05:05 – 0:05:12] Adam: I think a lot of people probably enjoyed the risque photo you posted of yourself on the Tumble Home Reddit.
[0:05:12 – 0:05:13] Erik: Yeah.
[0:05:13 – 0:05:13] Erik: That was pretty hot.
[0:05:14 – 0:05:22] Erik: Yeah, well, that was my New Year’s Eve, drinking champagne, basically home alone with Tori.
[0:05:23 – 0:05:24] Erik: Wild.
[0:05:24 – 0:05:31] Erik: After she bedded down, it was just me in front of the reflective mirrors of my home, struggling.
[0:05:32 – 0:05:33] Erik: And having a good time still, to be honest.
[0:05:33 – 0:05:34] Erik: It’s the darkness.
[0:05:34 – 0:05:34] Erik: Yeah.
[0:05:34 – 0:05:35] Adam: It’s the dark times.
[0:05:35 – 0:05:36] Erik: It is the dark times.
[0:05:37 – 0:05:39] Erik: But we are here in the new year.
[0:05:40 – 0:05:40] Erik: Yeah.
[0:05:44 – 0:05:45] Erik: Which is 2021.
[0:05:45 – 0:05:49] Erik: We won’t try to make any predictions on you this time around.
[0:05:50 – 0:05:51] Erik: Besides the lizard people.
[0:05:51 – 0:05:56] Erik: Besides the lizard people taking over a flight that you’re on somehow.
[0:05:56 – 0:05:58] Adam: What if you’re on like a car ferry?
[0:06:00 – 0:06:00] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:06:00 – 0:06:01] Erik: That one wouldn’t be as bad.
[0:06:02 – 0:06:03] Adam: Because you couldn’t just jump in the lake.
[0:06:03 – 0:06:05] Adam: They’d jump in right after you.
[0:06:06 – 0:06:08] Adam: They’re probably very good swimmers.
[0:06:09 – 0:06:10] Erik: Are reptiles good swimmers?
[0:06:11 – 0:06:11] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:06:12 – 0:06:12] Adam: Hmm.
[0:06:13 – 0:06:15] Erik: Well, we’ll have to just wait and see.
[0:06:15 – 0:06:17] Adam: They’re like a duck in water with scales.
[0:06:17 – 0:06:18] Erik: Wow.
[0:06:18 – 0:06:20] Erik: You heard it here first, folks.
[0:06:21 – 0:06:24] Erik: Reptiles like ducks in water except with scales.
[0:06:25 – 0:06:31] Erik: You also know we are almost always sponsored by a beer.
[0:06:31 – 0:06:33] Erik: We’ve got a couple beers today from Scott.
[0:06:33 – 0:06:34] Erik: Oh, a size of that thing.
[0:06:35 – 0:06:36] Erik: Yeah, this is a Crowler.
[0:06:36 – 0:06:37] Erik: Thanks, Scott.
[0:06:38 – 0:07:04] Erik: holy smokes the date on the back is drawn on by hand and the date it does say 7 27 so yeah we’ve still got beers from the summer they probably won’t really fit um the winter i’m drinking you know you you got those nice it’s pretty balmy today though yeah it actually is up here in the north woods been relatively balmy for yeah there’s like moisture in the air
[0:07:05 – 0:07:13] Erik: It’s been like every night there’s been like this, well, every morning I should say, because of how warm it gets and then how like just perfectly cold it gets at night.
[0:07:13 – 0:07:14] Erik: You get those like white trees.
[0:07:15 – 0:07:15] Erik: Oh yeah.
[0:07:15 – 0:07:22] Erik: The frosty, frosty trees that you’re, I’m sure seeing on all of the social media.
[0:07:24 – 0:07:28] Adam: I shaved off my beard the other night and it’s cold out without a beard.
[0:07:28 – 0:07:29] Erik: Yeah.
[0:07:29 – 0:07:30] Erik: It was crispy this morning.
[0:07:30 – 0:07:34] Erik: I have not experienced that in some time, but you’re down to just a mustache.
[0:07:35 – 0:07:40] Adam Singing-ish: It’s a New Year’s miracle mustache.
[0:07:41 – 0:07:43] Erik: Okay, so this is from Scott.
[0:07:43 – 0:07:45] Erik: Like I said, thank you, Scott.
[0:07:46 – 0:07:49] Erik: We’ve got another one here, and we’re going to make Hopalicious work for it.
[0:07:50 – 0:07:53] Erik: Not bust out the second sponsor until we get to it.
[0:07:53 – 0:07:54] Erik: We’ll get to it when we get to it.
[0:07:54 – 0:07:56] Adam: We’ll get to it when we get to it.
[0:07:56 – 0:07:57] Adam: You’ve got to go with the flow.
[0:07:57 – 0:07:59] Adam: You can’t force these things.
[0:08:00 – 0:08:00] Adam: You can’t schedule them.
[0:08:01 – 0:08:05] Erik: I love holding our listeners hostage, especially our intern listeners.
[0:08:05 – 0:08:10] Erik: So greatly appreciated for all the work you do, but you’re going to have to listen to this one with a fine tooth comb.
[0:08:10 – 0:08:13] Erik: We should try to sneak it in real quick.
[0:08:13 – 0:08:15] Erik: It’s real quick.
[0:08:17 – 0:08:17] Erik: This one’s from Scott.
[0:08:17 – 0:08:19] Erik: This is bad habit brewing.
[0:08:19 – 0:08:22] Erik: It’s a habitual grapefruit IPA.
[0:08:22 – 0:08:26] Erik: Um, I haven’t examined the can hard enough yet here.
[0:08:27 – 0:08:29] Erik: It says proudly brewed in Minnesota, uh,
[0:08:31 – 0:08:32] Erik: In St. Joseph.
[0:08:32 – 0:08:32] Erik: That’s what I was looking for.
[0:08:32 – 0:08:35] Erik: Bad Habit Brewing in St. Joseph, Minnesota.
[0:08:35 – 0:08:37] Erik: Is that anywhere near Wabasha?
[0:08:38 – 0:08:39] Erik: I don’t believe it is.
[0:08:39 – 0:08:40] Erik: I don’t know where that is.
[0:08:40 – 0:08:47] Erik: St. Joseph, I think, strikes me as a middle-of-the-state city.
[0:08:47 – 0:08:49] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:08:49 – 0:08:51] Erik: Kind of like maybe south and west of St.
[0:08:52 – 0:08:52] Erik: Cloud.
[0:08:53 – 0:08:54] Adam: I could be completely wrong, though.
[0:08:55 – 0:08:55] Adam: I got no idea.
[0:08:56 – 0:08:57] Adam: I haven’t left the North Shore in some time.
[0:08:58 – 0:08:58] Adam: Oh.
[0:08:59 – 0:09:02] Adam: What’s with all the grapefruit beers coming into my life lately?
[0:09:03 – 0:09:03] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:09:03 – 0:09:04] Erik: What was the other one?
[0:09:04 – 0:09:06] Erik: Man, that did not pour very well at all.
[0:09:06 – 0:09:08] Adam: We had a grapefruit IPA going yesterday.
[0:09:10 – 0:09:11] Erik: The pomplamoose.
[0:09:12 – 0:09:12] Erik: Pomplamoose.
[0:09:12 – 0:09:13] Erik: Ooh, it smells good.
[0:09:14 – 0:09:18] Erik: And it’s also all over the counter in Studio K here.
[0:09:18 – 0:09:19] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:09:20 – 0:09:21] Erik: You got some exposed wood.
[0:09:21 – 0:09:25] Erik: I know my mom always used to say, water on wood, no good.
[0:09:25 – 0:09:30] Adam: This is like my grandfather’s writing desk, too.
[0:09:30 – 0:09:30] Adam: What have you done?
[0:09:33 – 0:09:34] Adam: You have to buff that out.
[0:09:35 – 0:09:35] Erik: Oh.
[0:09:37 – 0:09:44] Erik: It’s actually much smoother and not as intense as I thought it was going to be.
[0:09:45 – 0:09:48] Erik: Considering it’s an IPA, the grapefruit’s there.
[0:09:50 – 0:09:52] Adam: I’m not sure I’m going to need a second sip.
[0:09:53 – 0:09:54] Adam: Just give me a sec.
[0:09:55 – 0:09:58] Erik: The other slogan on the side of the can is be good, drink bad.
[0:09:59 – 0:10:03] Erik: Not 100% sure I’m following the logic on that one.
[0:10:04 – 0:10:05] Adam: Are you?
[0:10:05 – 0:10:07] Adam: Be good, drink bad.
[0:10:07 – 0:10:08] Adam: Drink bad.
[0:10:09 – 0:10:13] Erik: Shouldn’t ever say drink bad or put those words on your can of beer, I wouldn’t think.
[0:10:14 – 0:10:15] Erik: But I don’t know.
[0:10:15 – 0:10:16] Adam: Who am I?
[0:10:16 – 0:10:18] Adam: I’m going to give it two and a half yeps.
[0:10:22 – 0:10:22] Erik: Yeah.
[0:10:23 – 0:10:23] Erik: Yeah.
[0:10:24 – 0:10:26] Erik: It’s a little lacking in something.
[0:10:26 – 0:10:26] Erik: I don’t know what it is.
[0:10:27 – 0:10:31] Erik: It could also be just it’s been in the fridge for six months.
[0:10:31 – 0:10:33] Adam: Yeah, it was supposed to be drank immediately.
[0:10:33 – 0:10:34] Adam: Yeah.
[0:10:34 – 0:10:37] Erik: I mean, it’s fine, but I’ll give this middle of the road.
[0:10:38 – 0:10:44] Erik: This is your scraggly Aspen.
[0:10:45 – 0:10:46] Erik: Oh, he’s moved to the tree rankers.
[0:10:46 – 0:10:49] Erik: I haven’t fully moved to tree rankers, but I’m trying.
[0:10:49 – 0:10:53] Adam: You’re giving it a struggling Aspen, and I gave it two and a half yeps for the record.
[0:10:53 – 0:10:53] Erik: Yeah.
[0:10:55 – 0:10:55] Adam: All right.
[0:10:56 – 0:10:57] Adam: Hey, we fired our lawyer.
[0:10:58 – 0:10:59] Adam: Just a heads up.
[0:10:59 – 0:11:06] Adam: I want to make sure anybody who’s concerned from the previous episode that our lawyer has been fired.
[0:11:06 – 0:11:12] Erik: I’m sure there’s a number of different reasons people are concerned after the last episode.
[0:11:12 – 0:11:15] Adam: They’re probably wondering about the lawyer character.
[0:11:15 – 0:11:16] Adam: Who is that?
[0:11:16 – 0:11:17] Adam: Maybe they are.
[0:11:17 – 0:11:18] Adam: Why does he have a lawyer?
[0:11:18 – 0:11:20] Adam: Why does he have to come camping with him?
[0:11:20 – 0:11:30] Erik: I guess if I was truly to listen to that and pick out something to be concerned about, it would be this strange man who comes and then disappears and we’ve never heard from him again.
[0:11:31 – 0:11:33] Erik: More than the rampant alcoholism.
[0:11:33 – 0:11:36] Erik: I mean, to be honest, there’s a life at play there.
[0:11:37 – 0:11:39] Erik: We fired him and disappeared him.
[0:11:40 – 0:11:40] Adam: Yeah.
[0:11:41 – 0:11:42] Adam: He’s still out there, some say.
[0:11:43 – 0:11:45] Adam: Some say he’s still out there on Little Island.
[0:11:45 – 0:11:46] Erik: Little Island.
[0:11:47 – 0:11:50] Erik: So we’re answering your questions today, as it were.
[0:11:50 – 0:11:52] Erik: I think you’ve got maybe a note or two yet.
[0:11:53 – 0:11:55] Erik: Before we get to that, we’re going to start on Facebook.
[0:11:55 – 0:12:00] Adam: Well, yeah, I had one more note, at least from the subreddit.
[0:12:01 – 0:12:09] Adam: Somebody on there was helpful and said that incognito mode actually doesn’t mask your internet activity from the FBI.
[0:12:09 – 0:12:10] Erik: Yeah, I guess sometimes.
[0:12:10 – 0:12:14] Adam: They’re like, my FBI agent can see everything I’m doing on incognito mode, apparently.
[0:12:14 – 0:12:15] Adam: Yeah.
[0:12:15 – 0:12:15] Erik: Unbelievable.
[0:12:15 – 0:12:16] Adam: Unbelievable.
[0:12:16 – 0:12:40] Erik: that’s that was that one was a shock thanks patriot act i think it says right on the like first page of like when you load up incognito mode like this literally will do nothing exactly it just won’t like save your search history so your wife can’t see the gifts you’re buying yes all of the gifts i’m doing research hun
[0:12:41 – 0:12:44] Adam: Yeah, so anyways, they’re like, you should get a VPN.
[0:12:45 – 0:12:45] Erik: Yeah.
[0:12:45 – 0:12:50] Adam: If you really want to stream illegal Martian movies, the way to go is you got to get a VPN apparently.
[0:12:51 – 0:12:52] Adam: So just to clear that up.
[0:12:53 – 0:12:54] Erik: Which brings us to our next sponsor.
[0:12:54 – 0:12:56] Adam: I mean, to be clear, I was joking.
[0:12:57 – 0:12:57] Adam: Yeah.
[0:12:57 – 0:13:00] Adam: I know that you say I’m not an idiot.
[0:13:00 – 0:13:01] Erik: I think that was the joke.
[0:13:01 – 0:13:02] Erik: Okay, good.
[0:13:02 – 0:13:04] Adam: I just wanted to make sure people didn’t think I was dumb.
[0:13:05 – 0:13:08] Erik: Well, that was, yeah, I think we both played hand in hand in that.
[0:13:08 – 0:13:13] Erik: And sometimes our sarcasm?
[0:13:14 – 0:13:14] Erik: I can never tell the difference.
[0:13:14 – 0:13:17] Erik: What’s the difference between sarcasm and facetiousness?
[0:13:20 – 0:13:21] Erik: Or sardonicism?
[0:13:22 – 0:13:23] Erik: It’s the intent.
[0:13:23 – 0:13:26] Erik: I think it’s all, all those words are so vaguely…
[0:13:29 – 0:13:31] Erik: But yet different.
[0:13:31 – 0:13:37] Erik: The other thing that I will say, I think it was based on the end of the year episode.
[0:13:37 – 0:13:44] Erik: There was a comment in there from Max Kaven who said he’s got our back in terms of ham radio set up if we want to contact him.
[0:13:44 – 0:13:45] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:13:45 – 0:13:49] Adam: Then he still was like, and I could teach you how to program it.
[0:13:49 – 0:13:50] Adam: It really is easy.
[0:13:50 – 0:13:53] Adam: I was like, see, this is how these ham radio guys get you.
[0:13:54 – 0:13:56] Adam: Hey, you want to join our club?
[0:13:57 – 0:13:58] Adam: No, I’m just kidding around, guys.
[0:13:58 – 0:14:07] Erik: Literally, you just ship us a thing that we can turn on, that we can tune into a ham radio that we can legally do.
[0:14:08 – 0:14:10] Erik: It’s all set up and ready to go.
[0:14:10 – 0:14:11] Adam: Just so we can listen to Ray’s radio.
[0:14:11 – 0:14:13] Adam: We don’t ever have to broadcast.
[0:14:14 – 0:14:15] Adam: I just want like a scanner.
[0:14:15 – 0:14:17] Adam: No, we do not want a broadcast.
[0:14:17 – 0:14:21] Adam: I just want to scan the channels of the road team down the way.
[0:14:21 – 0:14:21] Erik: Yeah.
[0:14:22 – 0:14:24] Erik: I have enough going on in my life.
[0:14:24 – 0:14:29] Erik: I just don’t want to learn or go through the process of like setting something like that up.
[0:14:29 – 0:14:33] Erik: So yeah, I’m just going to cheat and say, Max, if you want to…
[0:14:33 – 0:14:57] Erik: send us that and then within that package just tell us what we owe you we’ll get it back to you we’ll make it we’ll make it and i’ll make you a mixtape with custom artwork yeah just for you just for you max make you a special honorary for one month just a one level for you only patreon level what would that i mean think about it i mean just a it’s a series of one one of one mixtapes no there’s not another one in the world that exists
[0:14:58 – 0:14:59] Erik: One of one.
[0:15:00 – 0:15:06] Erik: The only other thing from the subreddit that I thought was fun was the Altoids box that was being packed with items.
[0:15:07 – 0:15:11] Erik: The shrunken down bag of wine and the blown up pizza biter.
[0:15:11 – 0:15:13] Erik: Was that from Cheap Dancer?
[0:15:13 – 0:15:14] Adam: I don’t have it in front of me.
[0:15:14 – 0:15:17] Erik: I think it was from cheap underscore dancer.
[0:15:18 – 0:15:20] Adam: I still don’t have Reddit on my new phone.
[0:15:20 – 0:15:27] Erik: Yeah, and there was a whole host of, he was asking what the last thing to fill that space with should be.
[0:15:27 – 0:15:28] Adam: Yeah, that’s an intriguing question.
[0:15:29 – 0:15:33] Erik: And you can go to the subreddit, which is at 298 members right now.
[0:15:34 – 0:15:35] Erik: Let’s crack 300 people.
[0:15:36 – 0:15:39] Erik: Heck, let’s crack 500 by the end of this year.
[0:15:39 – 0:15:41] Adam: We’re a proud independent podcast.
[0:15:41 – 0:15:45] Adam: Please support us and have some fun with us on the subreddit.
[0:15:45 – 0:15:45] Adam: Why not?
[0:15:45 – 0:15:48] Adam: Yeah, even if you’re not a patron.
[0:15:48 – 0:15:48] Adam: That’s a form of support.
[0:15:49 – 0:15:51] Erik: Yeah, that is totally a form of support.
[0:15:51 – 0:15:55] Erik: And that thing is just, it’s always like a fun place to check in on.
[0:15:56 – 0:15:58] Erik: We’re not selling out, you know.
[0:15:58 – 0:16:02] Erik: Not yet, but this episode is brought to you by NordVPN.
[0:16:03 – 0:16:06] Erik: People, I mean, seriously, you have to take your security.
[0:16:06 – 0:16:07] Erik: That’s our first sponsor.
[0:16:08 – 0:16:10] Adam: You want to stream movies illegally.
[0:16:10 – 0:16:12] Adam: Go get yourself a Nord.
[0:16:13 – 0:16:19] Erik: I feel like that is the first sponsor of any, like, upstart YouTube channel or, like… Is it?
[0:16:19 – 0:16:20] Erik: Yeah.
[0:16:20 – 0:16:24] Erik: And I watch, like, I watch a lot of weird, like, esoteric…
[0:16:24 – 0:16:26] Erik: I’ve told you about the Dead Mall series.
[0:16:26 – 0:16:28] Erik: I love the Dead Mall series.
[0:16:28 – 0:16:33] Adam: I was just talking to somebody about how our mall in town had a Prangies and a Prangie Way.
[0:16:34 – 0:16:35] Adam: I don’t even know what either of those are.
[0:16:36 – 0:16:37] Adam: They’re basically the same thing.
[0:16:37 – 0:16:39] Adam: One was a little fancier than the other.
[0:16:39 – 0:16:39] Adam: Yeah.
[0:16:40 – 0:16:45] Erik: Well, shout out to this is Dan Bell on YouTube for his Deadmau5 series.
[0:16:45 – 0:16:46] Erik: Yeah, I’m all dead.
[0:16:46 – 0:16:48] Adam: D-E-D. Yeah.
[0:16:48 – 0:16:56] Erik: And I think I did a little scrolling on Facebook to kind of pre-pair myself.
[0:16:57 – 0:16:57] Adam: Yeah, yeah.
[0:16:57 – 0:16:58] Erik: For some of the questions.
[0:16:58 – 0:17:01] Erik: And I can’t tell if I want to do it for Reddit.
[0:17:01 – 0:17:03] Erik: But we’re going to start with Facebook.
[0:17:04 – 0:17:24] Erik: And main reason that that jogged my mind, my memory in terms of like questions and talking about the Dead Mall series is he’s like super like lo-fi vaporwave ask like 80s background music when he’s exploring these essentially abandoned malls, which I’m always shocked that.
[0:17:24 – 0:17:28] Erik: They’re just still open, even though there’s, like, nothing in them.
[0:17:28 – 0:17:29] Erik: Yeah, you can walk.
[0:17:29 – 0:17:30] Erik: Some of them…
[0:17:30 – 0:17:31] Erik: Some good walking in there.
[0:17:31 – 0:17:33] Erik: Yeah, some of them still have, like, a store or two.
[0:17:33 – 0:17:35] Adam: The Hardee’s is still open.
[0:17:35 – 0:17:37] Erik: Yeah, well, there’s always a Bed Bath & Beyond.
[0:17:37 – 0:17:38] Adam: Praying Away is gone.
[0:17:40 – 0:17:42] Adam: But there is a Hardee’s.
[0:17:42 – 0:17:43] Adam: No, no.
[0:17:43 – 0:17:45] Adam: There probably still isn’t any Hardee’s out there.
[0:17:45 – 0:17:45] Adam: Is there?
[0:17:45 – 0:17:46] Erik: I have no idea.
[0:17:46 – 0:17:46] Erik: It’s a reading thing.
[0:17:47 – 0:17:48] Erik: Carl’s Jr. versus Hardee’s.
[0:17:48 – 0:17:49] Erik: Yeah.
[0:17:49 – 0:17:49] Erik: Well.
[0:17:50 – 0:17:53] Erik: Also, I need to make a correction on the fly.
[0:17:53 – 0:17:54] Erik: It’s not Bed Bath & Beyond.
[0:17:54 – 0:17:55] Erik: It’s Bath & Body Works.
[0:17:56 – 0:17:56] Erik: Yeah.
[0:17:56 – 0:17:58] Erik: Those are like the last stores to go out of malls.
[0:17:59 – 0:18:02] Adam: Last time I was in a mall, I ended up in an Ulta with a hockey stick.
[0:18:03 – 0:18:04] Adam: Legally.
[0:18:04 – 0:18:06] Adam: I had bought the hockey stick.
[0:18:06 – 0:18:08] Adam: Then I was told, we’re going to Ulta.
[0:18:09 – 0:18:11] Adam: I’m not going to leave my hockey stick in the hallway.
[0:18:11 – 0:18:12] Adam: I’m coming in.
[0:18:12 – 0:18:16] Adam Singing-ish: I’m going to check out their fine products.
[0:18:16 – 0:18:17] Adam: Now we’re sponsored by Ulta?
[0:18:18 – 0:18:19] Adam: I think we are.
[0:18:22 – 0:18:25] Erik: Well, should we get into it, or do you have anything else there?
[0:18:25 – 0:18:28] Erik: We’re almost at 20 here, so you know how that goes.
[0:18:30 – 0:18:31] Adam: No, I don’t have anything else.
[0:18:31 – 0:18:33] Adam: Actually, I don’t even require a break at this point.
[0:18:34 – 0:18:34] Adam: No, you shouldn’t.
[0:18:35 – 0:18:35] Adam: I’m ready to roll, baby.
[0:18:35 – 0:18:38] Erik: Okay, well, it’s finally come to this.
[0:18:38 – 0:18:40] Adam: Wait, should we get a party horn in?
[0:18:41 – 0:18:42] Erik: Okay, there it was.
[0:18:43 – 0:18:45] Erik: Finally, 126 episodes in.
[0:18:46 – 0:18:47] Erik: Ask us anything.
[0:18:48 – 0:18:49] Erik: Is it lazy?
[0:18:49 – 0:18:49] Erik: Probably.
[0:18:49 – 0:18:50] Erik: Probably.
[0:18:51 – 0:18:52] Erik: Will it be entertaining?
[0:18:52 – 0:18:53] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:18:54 – 0:18:56] Erik: We’ll get to the actual question that I posted on Reddit.
[0:18:57 – 0:18:58] Adam: I thought you were reading it right there.
[0:18:58 – 0:19:01] Erik: No, I kind of was trying to remember it, but I couldn’t all the way.
[0:19:01 – 0:19:05] Adam Singing-ish: Pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew.
[0:19:05 – 0:19:06] Erik: Ask us anything.
[0:19:07 – 0:19:10] Erik: On Facebook, I pose it as a reverse question of the week.
[0:19:10 – 0:19:12] Erik: Seems like we’re always asking you questions.
[0:19:12 – 0:19:15] Erik: This time around, you can ask us anything.
[0:19:15 – 0:19:15] Erik: What you got?
[0:19:17 – 0:19:22] Adam: So our lawyer said we had to be totally honest, but then we did fire him.
[0:19:22 – 0:19:23] Adam: So who knows?
[0:19:24 – 0:19:26] Adam: Will you answer everything they ask?
[0:19:26 – 0:19:27] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:19:28 – 0:19:30] Adam: I reserve the right to plead the fifth.
[0:19:30 – 0:19:31] Erik: I think it remains to be seen.
[0:19:31 – 0:19:35] Erik: I don’t know if we’re going to get any real, like, Donahue-esque.
[0:19:36 – 0:19:37] Erik: I don’t even know if that’s right.
[0:19:37 – 0:19:39] UNKNOWN: You’re going to do these group inquiries?
[0:19:39 – 0:19:40] Erik: Phil Donahue?
[0:19:40 – 0:19:41] Adam Singing-ish: Phil Donahue?
[0:19:41 – 0:19:43] Erik: I don’t know where that came from.
[0:19:43 – 0:19:44] Erik: Holy smokes.
[0:19:46 – 0:19:47] Erik: Well, I’ll start at the top.
[0:19:48 – 0:19:55] Erik: Do you want me to start and ask you the question, and then we can let it kind of go from there, or do we want to do it like we do responses where we just go back and forth?
[0:19:55 – 0:19:56] Adam: Yeah, I would just ask the question.
[0:19:56 – 0:19:59] Adam: We can both answer in our own turn and way.
[0:19:59 – 0:19:59] Erik: Okay.
[0:19:59 – 0:19:59] Erik: Okay.
[0:20:00 – 0:20:03] Erik: Well, this first one is from Tony.
[0:20:04 – 0:20:10] Erik: What’s the one piece of fishing tackle that you can’t go without on a Boundary Waters canoe trip?
[0:20:13 – 0:20:15] Erik: What comes to mind right away there?
[0:20:16 – 0:20:17] Adam: Number one, Rapala.
[0:20:18 – 0:20:18] Adam: Husky jerk.
[0:20:20 – 0:20:21] Adam: Or a little Cleo.
[0:20:21 – 0:20:21] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:20:21 – 0:20:22] Adam: Those are the top two.
[0:20:23 – 0:20:24] Adam: That’d be where I’d start.
[0:20:24 – 0:20:28] Adam: But, I mean, you can’t even use one of those if you don’t have some sort of fishing rod.
[0:20:30 – 0:20:32] Erik: I think that there’s, yeah, this isn’t implied.
[0:20:33 – 0:20:40] Erik: Yeah, I would say that this is like a kind of a vague tumble tourney thing where you just assume the basics are there.
[0:20:40 – 0:20:43] Adam: Yeah, I guess I’m reading it as like, what’s the number one lure you would bring?
[0:20:44 – 0:20:46] Erik: Basically, one piece of fishing tackle.
[0:20:46 – 0:20:47] Erik: Yeah, it’s like a jig head.
[0:20:47 – 0:20:49] Adam: No, actually, no, I changed my answer.
[0:20:49 – 0:20:50] Adam: I would bring a slip bobber.
[0:20:52 – 0:20:54] Adam: That’s what I was thinking right away, too.
[0:20:54 – 0:20:54] Adam: A slip bobber rig?
[0:20:55 – 0:20:56] Adam: I’m more of a slip bobber man these days.
[0:20:57 – 0:20:58] Erik: As am I.
[0:21:00 – 0:21:07] Erik: Although, a close second would be the hot steel X-Wrap.
[0:21:08 – 0:21:14] Erik: You know, like the mid-size, not the big, big one, not the tiny one, but like the three and a half inch long one.
[0:21:15 – 0:21:15] Erik: You can troll it.
[0:21:15 – 0:21:16] Erik: You can cast it.
[0:21:17 – 0:21:18] Adam: So versatile.
[0:21:18 – 0:21:25] Erik: Yeah, and it doesn’t sink so that if you do end up having to stop because of somebody else in the canoe getting snagged, it doesn’t turn into one of those double snag scenarios.
[0:21:26 – 0:21:31] Adam: Yeah, that’s why I like to troll a Rapala over a spoon, especially if you’re team trolling.
[0:21:33 – 0:21:33] Adam: Yeah.
[0:21:33 – 0:21:39] Adam: I’d rather troll the Rapala and then have somebody up front just casting the shore with a spoon.
[0:21:41 – 0:21:42] Adam: That’s the ideal setup right there.
[0:21:43 – 0:21:46] Erik: I would say that that’s pretty ideal for in canoe fishing.
[0:21:46 – 0:21:50] Adam: Or if it’s the middle of summer, maybe the person up front is casting a MEPS 3 spinner.
[0:21:50 – 0:21:51] Adam: That would be my third choice.
[0:21:52 – 0:21:53] Adam: All right, that’s enough answers.
[0:21:54 – 0:21:56] Adam: But my top answer is definitely a slip bobber.
[0:21:56 – 0:22:00] Adam: That includes a nice Nalgene full of lively leeches.
[0:22:01 – 0:22:04] Erik: I would say that’s probably my first one, but just for some variety.
[0:22:05 – 0:22:07] Erik: And I think you’ve got enough room.
[0:22:07 – 0:22:11] Erik: You could bring the slip bobber rig with some lively leeches and an X-Rap.
[0:22:14 – 0:22:15] Erik: Well, I’ll turn it to you.
[0:22:15 – 0:22:15] Adam: Yeah.
[0:22:15 – 0:22:16] Adam: I mean, that’s fine.
[0:22:16 – 0:22:20] Adam: You know, I would say in general, just get a smaller tackle box and bring less stuff.
[0:22:21 – 0:22:27] Erik: That has been one of the things that over the years, my tackle box has gotten smaller and smaller and we’ve talked about it.
[0:22:27 – 0:22:27] Erik: Yeah.
[0:22:27 – 0:22:31] Adam: I’ve got mine down to like just a little Altoids container.
[0:22:31 – 0:22:31] Adam: Yeah.
[0:22:31 – 0:22:33] Adam: Yours is pretty small.
[0:22:33 – 0:22:33] Adam: Yeah.
[0:22:34 – 0:22:34] Erik: Mine is.
[0:22:34 – 0:22:42] Adam: I literally just have like two lures wrapped with the, get the hooks wrapped in a little like foil or something or cork just to keep them from getting into stuff.
[0:22:42 – 0:22:49] Erik: Yeah, mine’s like still like one of the – like a sleeve that you used to slide into like those little soft-sided ones.
[0:22:50 – 0:23:00] Erik: And it used to be a lot smaller, but I just keep that one kind of stocked the way I do because of the intermittent guided trips where I have to have like six X-Wraps.
[0:23:00 – 0:23:02] Erik: Yeah, you’re going to need a few extra.
[0:23:02 – 0:23:04] Erik: Two people in a canoe that both lost –
[0:23:06 – 0:23:10] Erik: two lures to the same fish back to back, like within seconds.
[0:23:11 – 0:23:14] Erik: So it’s like, well, it was two X wraps right there.
[0:23:14 – 0:23:16] Erik: It’s like $20 of tackle.
[0:23:18 – 0:23:18] Adam: C’est la vie.
[0:23:18 – 0:23:19] Erik: Yeah, c’est la vie.
[0:23:20 – 0:23:21] Adam: Next up on the show, Jared.
[0:23:23 – 0:23:23] Adam: Hmm.
[0:23:41 – 0:23:51] Adam: I feel like this one’s going to be fielded more by the outfitter on the team, but I can say, I don’t know, I just bring a lot of partial canisters out.
[0:23:51 – 0:23:56] Adam: I just use them up until they’re gone, even if I have to carry multiple partial canisters with me.
[0:23:56 – 0:23:58] Adam: Yeah, I guess it sounds like so…
[0:23:58 – 0:24:00] Adam: I have a good source for partial canisters also.
[0:24:01 – 0:24:05] Erik: There’s a massive drawer at Clearwater filled with partial canisters.
[0:24:07 – 0:24:21] Erik: Yeah, I mean, the recommended dose that I was told on day one of packing out at Clearwater was one canister of the softball size, roughly.
[0:24:22 – 0:24:25] Adam: Are we talking the little red canisters, not the big green ones, right?
[0:24:25 – 0:24:26] Erik: No, no.
[0:24:26 – 0:24:30] Erik: I mean, and that’s, again, like it depends on what kind of a canister you’re talking about, obviously.
[0:24:30 – 0:24:41] Erik: But yeah, not those like green Coleman ones with the threads on top that go into the side of like the dad breakfast set up, which are sweet if you get them set up when you need them.
[0:24:42 – 0:24:46] Adam: I got to show you this cast iron piece I got from the in-laws.
[0:24:47 – 0:24:48] Adam: It fits right on that two burner like that.
[0:24:49 – 0:24:49] Erik: Nice.
[0:24:49 – 0:24:50] Erik: Can you put it right on the grate?
[0:24:50 – 0:24:52] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:24:52 – 0:24:53] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:24:53 – 0:24:55] Adam: We might be making a gear change this year.
[0:24:55 – 0:24:55] Adam: Trust me.
[0:24:55 – 0:24:57] Adam: Flat top?
[0:24:57 – 0:25:00] Adam: It’s got flat top on one side, and the other side is like ridges.
[0:25:00 – 0:25:02] Erik: Nice, so you can put in some grill marks.
[0:25:02 – 0:25:02] Erik: Mm-hmm.
[0:25:03 – 0:25:04] Erik: Mm-hmm.
[0:25:04 – 0:25:11] Erik: Yeah, so like the first thing I ever heard when it comes to packing out, you know, we have the list of the gear that gets packed out.
[0:25:11 – 0:25:18] Erik: And, you know, you go through the basics, all the cook kit, sleeping bag, sleeping pads, packs, first aid, water filter.
[0:25:18 – 0:25:20] Erik: And then, you know, you get to the stove and fuel.
[0:25:20 – 0:25:26] Erik: And then in fuel, behind it, it would say like one can for two days.
[0:25:27 – 0:25:28] Erik: And then you just have to do the math.
[0:25:29 – 0:25:33] Erik: But I have no idea, like, where that information came from ever.
[0:25:34 – 0:25:35] Adam: That sounds about right.
[0:25:35 – 0:25:39] Adam: Even if you’re using it a lot, I mean, a can should last you a couple days.
[0:25:39 – 0:25:45] Erik: Yeah, and that’s also like under the assumption that you’re kind of, like you said, using it at a normal level.
[0:25:45 – 0:25:56] Erik: Like if you’re constantly making all of your water on a stove or you’ve got like multiple different like sides or whatever.
[0:25:56 – 0:26:01] Erik: It’s also like very dependent these days on not a –
[0:26:03 – 0:26:07] Erik: like not the way that I personally cook when I’m out there.
[0:26:07 – 0:26:10] Erik: Like almost all of our cooking is done on the fire grate over the fire.
[0:26:11 – 0:26:21] Erik: So like the, I feel like the stove and fuel canister setup lasts a lot longer because we essentially just use it for like coffee water, coffee water right away in the morning just to get it going.
[0:26:21 – 0:26:25] Erik: So you’re not like sitting around waiting, you know, you just throw it on.
[0:26:25 – 0:26:26] Erik: Right.
[0:26:26 – 0:26:29] Erik: Um, so yeah, like two days I would say in general, um,
[0:26:30 – 0:26:34] Erik: And when I’m packing out other people, I kind of just – like a four-day trip.
[0:26:34 – 0:26:40] Erik: It also depends on how many people are going out and how big – what are you cooking?
[0:26:42 – 0:26:53] Erik: Again, like that old packing out chart that I had access to I think is based on also the way back then especially outfitters were packing out, which was like highly –
[0:26:54 – 0:26:59] Erik: Based on dehydrated foods, which is like, okay, boil up some water, boil up some more water.
[0:26:59 – 0:27:01] Erik: We got to pour this dehydrated food in.
[0:27:01 – 0:27:06] Erik: And, you know, I think for me personally, that’s not happening as much anymore.
[0:27:06 – 0:27:14] Erik: So I think a canister goes a lot farther than two days, but it depends on how…
[0:27:15 – 0:27:16] Erik: much you’re using it.
[0:27:16 – 0:27:19] Erik: Obviously that seems like the obvious easy answer.
[0:27:19 – 0:27:21] Erik: So I don’t know, two days for one.
[0:27:21 – 0:27:25] Erik: Um, and those are the like self-contained isobutane things.
[0:27:25 – 0:27:27] Erik: I know like white gas is totally a different scenario.
[0:27:28 – 0:27:29] Adam: Oh, yeah, the white gas.
[0:27:30 – 0:27:31] Erik: Which…
[0:27:32 – 0:27:33] Adam: The kerosene stuff?
[0:27:33 – 0:27:34] Adam: Is that what you’re talking about?
[0:27:34 – 0:27:36] Erik: Well, it’s like, yeah, you could… Those…
[0:27:36 – 0:27:37] Erik: The old lamp oil?
[0:27:37 – 0:27:39] Erik: Well, so…
[0:27:39 – 0:27:43] Erik: I know that there used to be a couple of stoves, like… You gotta, like, pump it yourself?
[0:27:44 – 0:27:44] Adam: Mm-hmm.
[0:27:44 – 0:27:45] Erik: Yeah, like… Pump it up.
[0:27:45 – 0:27:50] Erik: And it’s really crazy, because it can handle, like, a lot of different kinds of fuel.
[0:27:50 – 0:27:50] Erik: Mm-hmm.
[0:27:51 – 0:27:56] Erik: Like, white gas is, like, the most common for camping, but, like, in a pinch, you could put, like, kerosene in it.
[0:27:56 – 0:27:56] Erik: Or vodka.
[0:27:56 – 0:27:57] Erik: Or jet fuel.
[0:27:58 – 0:27:59] Erik: I don’t know about vodka.
[0:27:59 – 0:28:00] Erik: That’s a rock fact.
[0:28:00 – 0:28:03] Erik: You could maybe get a flame from it, but I don’t know if it would be effective.
[0:28:03 – 0:28:06] Adam: I don’t think I’m going to rescind the rock fact on that one.
[0:28:06 – 0:28:09] Adam: You cannot burn vodka in a Coleman.
[0:28:09 – 0:28:14] Erik: And I think, yeah, white gas is fine for people, but as an outfitter, it’s so…
[0:28:16 – 0:28:41] Erik: they’re they’re a little finicky and there’s a lot of like upkeep i think they’re like extremely efficient once you’ve got it figured out and that’s the thing with those is you kind of have to like learn the stove and how the whole white gas and the pumping and the airflow that mix works so to send something like that out with you know vast majority of people who are kind of new doesn’t really work as an outfitter so yeah we send out those canisters and
[0:28:42 – 0:28:45] Adam: I think that’s what the question is referring to, the little red canisters.
[0:28:45 – 0:28:45] Adam: Yeah.
[0:28:46 – 0:29:01] Adam: Yeah, I would say like on our, when Natalie and I did the Grand Canyon, I think I had brought like a, we had some partial canisters in there, but like overall the math was like, I figured like one whole can per day because we were doing everything on the stove.
[0:29:01 – 0:29:02] Adam: Yeah.
[0:29:02 – 0:29:03] Erik: Well, yeah, that’s more like backpacking.
[0:29:04 – 0:29:08] Adam: Yeah, and that was a lot of dehydrated food.
[0:29:09 – 0:29:16] Erik: Well, and the other thing is, yeah, a lot of dehydrated food is not good for the gut.
[0:29:16 – 0:29:21] Erik: But I think he also asked, you know, what do you do with all those partial canisters?
[0:29:21 – 0:29:21] Erik: Right.
[0:29:22 – 0:29:23] Adam: He gives them to me.
[0:29:23 – 0:29:23] Adam: I take them.
[0:29:24 – 0:29:25] Adam: I take those.
[0:29:25 – 0:29:33] Erik: Yeah, I know that they do make a few different kinds of tools that you can screw on to a partial one.
[0:29:33 – 0:29:39] Erik: Basically, it looks like the schnozzle that you pump a basketball up with.
[0:29:39 – 0:29:40] Erik: Right.
[0:29:40 – 0:29:47] Erik: And you screw that on, and then you’re supposed to be able to tip it in and push it into another canister to fill it up.
[0:29:47 – 0:29:49] Erik: I’ve never been able to get them to work.
[0:29:49 – 0:29:51] Erik: Schnozzle to schnozzle.
[0:29:51 – 0:29:52] Erik: Schnozzle to schnozzle.
[0:29:53 – 0:29:55] Adam: This fall on NBC.
[0:29:55 – 0:29:58] Adam: That’s our next big hit.
[0:29:58 – 0:30:00] Adam: Schnozzle to schnozzle.
[0:30:00 – 0:30:02] Adam: Got to do the schnozzle.
[0:30:02 – 0:30:03] Erik: So I don’t know.
[0:30:03 – 0:30:09] Erik: There’s probably a little bit better research out there on those, like, canister transferring devices.
[0:30:09 – 0:30:09] Adam: Yeah, sure.
[0:30:09 – 0:30:10] Adam: So those exist.
[0:30:10 – 0:30:11] Adam: This is the thing.
[0:30:11 – 0:30:12] Adam: I didn’t even know about that.
[0:30:12 – 0:30:19] Erik: The other thing I heard, I did hear from a staff at Clearwater at the end of last year, because we were talking about this.
[0:30:19 – 0:30:22] Erik: I’m like, I could never get those things to, like…
[0:30:23 – 0:30:48] Erik: transfer from one to another like it just sprays all over it gets your hands all cold and his suggestion was that you’re supposed to do it when they’re really cold so the gas you know that that butane gets concentrated into more of a liquid that will transfer sure so he’s like you throw him in the freezer for a little bit and then do it and it’ll go in much better wow all right
[0:30:48 – 0:30:48] Erik: Yeah.
[0:30:48 – 0:31:06] Erik: So like, I mean, at a certain point, like if liquefied petroleum, propane, any of these isobutane gas mixtures, if they get too cold, you know, that’s why some of those stoves that you get, you can flip upside down when they get low because it’ll just kind of like sink.
[0:31:06 – 0:31:10] Erik: And you almost have to always do that in the winter because it gets too heavy.
[0:31:10 – 0:31:10] Erik: Yeah.
[0:31:11 – 0:31:14] Erik: And so if you make it colder, the gravity might make it work.
[0:31:14 – 0:31:15] Erik: I don’t have experience with this.
[0:31:15 – 0:31:16] Erik: This is just a theory.
[0:31:17 – 0:31:17] Erik: It’s a hunch.
[0:31:17 – 0:31:19] Adam: I heard from somebody else.
[0:31:20 – 0:31:20] Adam: All right.
[0:31:21 – 0:31:21] Adam: We’re doing doubles?
[0:31:22 – 0:31:22] Adam: Yeah, sure.
[0:31:23 – 0:31:23] Erik: It’s facing you.
[0:31:24 – 0:31:24] Adam: Read it.
[0:31:25 – 0:31:27] Adam: I did knock the brightness.
[0:31:27 – 0:31:33] Adam: See, I was complaining about how it’s so dim, the lighting in Studio K, and then I got out a little lamp to start the show.
[0:31:33 – 0:31:34] Erik: You promptly dropped it.
[0:31:35 – 0:31:42] Adam: Well, no, it was clipped onto my mic stand and then it like de-clipped itself and exploded, basically.
[0:31:42 – 0:31:43] Adam: So now we’re back down.
[0:31:43 – 0:31:46] Adam: Now I’m like, I got to turn down the brightness on this laptop, Eric.
[0:31:47 – 0:31:48] Adam: It’s a little too bright.
[0:31:48 – 0:31:50] Adam: Barrel is up next on the show.
[0:31:51 – 0:32:04] Adam: Where does your musical inspiration come from, and how do I get a copy of your Electro Pop Covers album, which should absolutely include in your rendition, which should absolutely include your rendition of Lucky Star by Madonna?
[0:32:05 – 0:32:06] Adam: Thank you for taking my question.
[0:32:08 – 0:32:09] Erik: That’s funny.
[0:32:09 – 0:32:18] Erik: I would say the vast majority of the music that is played in the chiptune variety is just from YouTube.
[0:32:18 – 0:32:19] Erik: There’s a bunch of music from…
[0:32:21 – 0:32:24] Adam: I think the original chiptune was Poopy’s Big Adventure.
[0:32:25 – 0:32:25] Adam: Is that right?
[0:32:25 – 0:32:25] Adam: Yeah.
[0:32:26 – 0:32:44] Adam: uh yeah i think so i remember like when you first started playing chiptunes it was poopies wasn’t is that not the name of the artist i don’t think it’s poopy but it is i think it’s called like poopies adventure um but yeah like i would say you’re doing your own thing now though
[0:32:45 – 0:32:48] Erik: No, there’s a lot that, yeah, I am.
[0:32:48 – 0:32:53] Erik: But I did not make the Madonna chiptune shooting star song.
[0:32:54 – 0:32:55] Erik: Lucky Star.
[0:32:55 – 0:32:56] Erik: Lucky Star.
[0:32:56 – 0:32:56] Erik: Yeah.
[0:32:57 – 0:33:02] Erik: Because it’s like, I don’t know how to do that.
[0:33:03 – 0:33:03] Erik: What?
[0:33:03 – 0:33:05] Erik: The inspiration comes from the episode.
[0:33:06 – 0:33:28] Erik: like in terms of what we’re talking about and like when I’m editing it, it’s just like, I don’t know, something like along the lines of the general topic or like in the case of the madness of winter, like that I made, that’s just like on a, you can go to a number of websites and just like download like any like cord or,
[0:33:29 – 0:33:33] Erik: And this was actually made that on the original Madness of Winter.
[0:33:33 – 0:33:46] Erik: It’s a recycled little tune that I made before I even had Fruity Loops, which was essentially just going on to like a sample website, pulling samples and putting it in a garage band on like a repeat and then like starting a second track.
[0:33:47 – 0:33:52] Erik: Not that any of this is really interesting, but it’s like probably the exact opposite way that you should really do it.
[0:33:52 – 0:33:55] Erik: But it was the only way I knew how to do it at the time.
[0:33:55 – 0:33:55] Erik: Mm-hmm.
[0:33:56 – 0:33:59] Erik: And that one just was, like, kind of a happy accident.
[0:33:59 – 0:34:07] Erik: But there’s a lot of songs, intros and outros during the winter, I would say, if it isn’t a specific, like,
[0:34:11 – 0:34:37] Erik: like okay that’s madonna like if they if you can’t tell that it’s an actual like chiptune version of a song like those are the songs those are the ones that i make on fruity loops now um but like there’s you just type in any song man eater you could type in yeah type in man eater chiptune and there’s like 20 versions of it online and that’s not necessarily like
[0:34:38 – 0:34:41] Erik: inspirational music that I listened to any other time.
[0:34:42 – 0:34:55] Erik: Like I don’t put on like chip tune and just like sit down and relax, but I feel like it just, it works really well as like short little like intro and outro stuff that is like also like basically free to use.
[0:34:56 – 0:35:04] Erik: There’s a couple of like, uh, I can’t even think of what the name of the website is anymore where there’s like originally where I found all the chip tune, um,
[0:35:05 – 0:35:23] Erik: free music archive is what it’s called um so yeah i don’t know the inspiration is usually based on the the episode the content at which we’re talking about and at this point 126 episodes in the chiptune seems to just be a pretty strong theme also that happens
[0:35:23 – 0:35:34] Adam: Yeah, I always like part of my favorite part about re-listening to the episode when it drops is that I can see what kind of music Eric had put into the episode.
[0:35:35 – 0:35:36] Erik: That is one of my favorite parts.
[0:35:36 – 0:35:38] Adam: Because that’s all on his end after we record.
[0:35:38 – 0:35:41] Adam: He’s doing all the post.
[0:35:42 – 0:35:46] Adam: Yeah, so it’s always fun to see what he’s found for this week’s episode.
[0:35:46 – 0:35:55] Adam: Yeah, I love the Loon song, which is… Yeah, yeah, I was going to ask you about that maybe, because that’s the whole Open Water season, that’s mainly the intro song.
[0:35:55 – 0:35:57] Erik: Yeah, which is…
[0:35:58 – 0:35:59] Erik: I guess I could go back and look.
[0:36:00 – 0:36:12] Erik: It’s, again, the main guitar on that is from a Free Music Archive French band, and…
[0:36:13 – 0:36:22] Erik: And then I just took that with like a bunch of different like loon calls and then like kind of again, like kind of a happy accident.
[0:36:22 – 0:36:22] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:36:22 – 0:36:28] Erik: Like it seemed like it all like really worked out pretty well considering that was like the first thing I made for the show.
[0:36:29 – 0:36:29] Erik: Yeah.
[0:36:29 – 0:36:32] Adam: No, it’s just a icon and we can never get rid of that.
[0:36:33 – 0:36:34] Erik: No, I don’t think it could be improved on.
[0:36:35 – 0:36:37] Erik: It’s like I’ve gone back and forth, too, on the main.
[0:36:37 – 0:36:40] Adam: Have you ever chiptuned the main Loon intro?
[0:36:41 – 0:36:41] Erik: No.
[0:36:42 – 0:36:45] Adam: Or you could do it on a slow filter like you did for the Tumble tourney.
[0:36:45 – 0:36:46] Erik: I guess I could do that.
[0:36:48 – 0:36:50] Erik: That would be weird.
[0:36:50 – 0:36:52] Adam: Overlay some of that creepy winter cello.
[0:36:53 – 0:36:54] Erik: Yeah.
[0:36:55 – 0:36:55] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:36:55 – 0:36:58] Adam: I really enjoy the chiptunes, though.
[0:36:58 – 0:36:58] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:36:58 – 0:37:12] Erik: Yeah, but basically what I was saying is I love the Loon intro, but I do like the winter because it gives me a little bit of an opportunity to do different intro music as well as obviously the outro music, which again is…
[0:37:13 – 0:37:18] Erik: Intro is usually just like something kind of easy and getting you into the mood.
[0:37:18 – 0:37:22] Erik: And then outro is usually like based on a feeling I got from listening to it.
[0:37:24 – 0:37:27] Erik: Or, you know, something as direct as, you know, like the…
[0:37:30 – 0:37:34] Erik: What was the song that came in at the end of the PMA episode?
[0:37:34 – 0:37:40] Erik: It was essentially like the lyrics were about moving out in the woods and living in the middle of nowhere, stuff like that.
[0:37:40 – 0:37:41] Adam: Got nothing.
[0:37:41 – 0:37:46] Erik: You just have to listen to it to a certain extent if you want lyrics to be involved, but…
[0:37:46 – 0:37:46] Erik: Yeah.
[0:37:47 – 0:37:56] Erik: I’ll just say that the inspiration isn’t really anywhere close to the actual kind of music I listen to.
[0:37:58 – 0:38:00] Erik: I don’t put on chiptunes at home.
[0:38:00 – 0:38:05] Adam: I like that the question was asked, it was your electro pop covers.
[0:38:05 – 0:38:05] Adam: Yeah.
[0:38:07 – 0:38:36] Erik: yeah none of those any of the covers are not me and you can go on to youtube and just search any of them like if you want to go and listen to any of the the ones that are specifically covers just go search the name of the song chiptune you’ll find a number of them uh they’re great and i love them um there’s are all the poopies songs are they like those are originals though no mm-hmm those are just something else they’re like well i don’t know yeah those ones are like the ones in the again i think that was the pma that was all poopy stuff
[0:38:37 – 0:38:40] Adam: Yeah, is that like, I don’t know, is that just called Nintendo music or something?
[0:38:40 – 0:38:47] Erik: Well, I think it’s, I mean, Chiptune is basically just like, yeah, like 16-bit video game music.
[0:38:48 – 0:39:00] Erik: Like, I think it kind of got, I would say it’s like breakout in terms of becoming recognized and noticed by, remember Crystal Castles, the band?
[0:39:01 – 0:39:01] Erik: No.
[0:39:01 – 0:39:01] Erik: No.
[0:39:02 – 0:39:14] Erik: That was like mid 2000s, like kind of psychedelic electronic music, but with a huge like chip tune, 16 beat.
[0:39:14 – 0:39:15] Erik: Everything was kind of based on that.
[0:39:16 – 0:39:17] Erik: Yeah.
[0:39:18 – 0:39:20] Erik: Listen to Crystal Castles next time you get a chance.
[0:39:20 – 0:39:21] Adam Singing-ish: I’m going to put it in my notes.
[0:39:21 – 0:39:22] Adam Singing-ish: Okay.
[0:39:24 – 0:39:25] Adam: Is that Crystal with a K?
[0:39:26 – 0:39:26] Erik: No.
[0:39:27 – 0:39:29] Erik: Get out of here with that.
[0:39:31 – 0:39:31] Adam: Got it.
[0:39:33 – 0:39:35] Adam: But Castles is probably with a K. No.
[0:39:36 – 0:39:37] Erik: No Ks.
[0:39:37 – 0:39:48] Erik: This is before the era and age of band names just using intentionally different letters so that they would stick out.
[0:39:48 – 0:39:49] Erik: There’s no vowels.
[0:39:49 – 0:39:50] Erik: No vowels.
[0:39:50 – 0:39:51] Adam: No capital letters.
[0:39:51 – 0:39:52] Adam: No vowels.
[0:39:53 – 0:39:54] Erik: Are we on an Andy here?
[0:39:55 – 0:39:55] Erik: Oh, no.
[0:39:56 – 0:39:56] Erik: John.
[0:39:59 – 0:40:01] Adam: I can’t remember if I scrolled for you or not.
[0:40:01 – 0:40:02] Erik: I think I scrolled past farther than I should.
[0:40:02 – 0:40:03] Erik: This one’s from John.
[0:40:03 – 0:40:10] Erik: In what episode or episodes do you remember enjoying too many sponsorships before and during?
[0:40:10 – 0:40:15] Erik: Or in other words, can you give your top three episodes on the slurred speech scale?
[0:40:17 – 0:40:18] Erik: Got a fat tongue.
[0:40:19 – 0:40:24] Erik: I mean, I think the last one, 126, it’s maybe number one.
[0:40:25 – 0:40:26] Erik: The lawyer was so drunk.
[0:40:27 – 0:40:31] Erik: I don’t know if it’s even a question as to whether or not 126.
[0:40:31 – 0:40:33] Erik: This came out two weeks ago, so that’s funny.
[0:40:33 – 0:40:36] Erik: He asked that question like a while before.
[0:40:36 – 0:40:39] Erik: I would say number one is The Madness of Winter with a Vengeance.
[0:40:40 – 0:40:46] Adam: Yeah, I had recently just updated my resume, and I actually put Tumble Home on there.
[0:40:46 – 0:40:49] Adam: I’m not sure that was such a good idea.
[0:40:49 – 0:40:52] Erik: Well, we’ll get this one out there so it’ll bury it a little bit so it’s not the first one they find.
[0:40:52 – 0:40:53] Adam: As long as it’s not the first result.
[0:40:54 – 0:40:55] Adam Singing-ish: We’re about more than that.
[0:40:59 – 0:41:00] Erik: We are generally.
[0:41:02 – 0:41:04] Erik: Obviously, the first, Madness of Winter.
[0:41:04 – 0:41:10] Adam: Yeah, maybe just all three, Madness of Winter, and then… Well, the second one is a Patreon-only one.
[0:41:11 – 0:41:13] Erik: So, it doesn’t technically count.
[0:41:13 – 0:41:17] Adam: What was the one where we had a beer called, like, The Babymaker?
[0:41:18 – 0:41:19] Erik: Oh, I don’t remember that.
[0:41:19 – 0:41:20] Erik: Oh, I do remember that beer.
[0:41:21 – 0:41:25] Erik: I thought that… No, the one that I always remember that is for sure, like…
[0:41:26 – 0:41:30] Erik: I would say noticeable is the dragon’s milk episode.
[0:41:31 – 0:41:31] Adam: Dragon’s milk.
[0:41:31 – 0:41:32] Adam: That’s right.
[0:41:32 – 0:41:33] Erik: Oh, we run in the annex porch.
[0:41:33 – 0:41:36] Erik: I don’t, I don’t really remember what we were talking about.
[0:41:37 – 0:41:40] Erik: Nobody does, but that one.
[0:41:40 – 0:41:42] Erik: Yeah, that one was, that one got to us.
[0:41:43 – 0:41:46] Erik: The only other one that does kind of come to mind and it was maybe not like that.
[0:41:46 – 0:41:55] Erik: We were like slurring on the episode, but I do remember feeling the next day, um, affected by it was the,
[0:41:57 – 0:42:01] Erik: Um, the, the time we got that mini keg of Heineken.
[0:42:01 – 0:42:02] Adam: Yeah.
[0:42:02 – 0:42:03] Adam: We almost did finish it.
[0:42:04 – 0:42:04] Adam: Yeah.
[0:42:05 – 0:42:09] Adam: We didn’t, there was still a little bit left, but we got close cause we had something else going too.
[0:42:09 – 0:42:13] Adam: I, I don’t think we were even just having the mini keg.
[0:42:14 – 0:42:14] Adam: Yeah.
[0:42:14 – 0:42:15] Adam: That one was a good time.
[0:42:16 – 0:42:17] Erik: Yeah, that was good.
[0:42:17 – 0:42:26] Erik: And one of the main reasons I do remember that one the most is because the guys that donated it, they gave it to us on their way out into the park.
[0:42:27 – 0:42:34] Erik: And then the next day, not the next day, but the day they came off the water was the day after we had recorded the episode with their beer.
[0:42:35 – 0:42:36] Erik: And I was like…
[0:42:37 – 0:42:39] Erik: Not feeling too great at work.
[0:42:39 – 0:42:45] Erik: I was like, thanks for the sponsorship, but you’re also kind of to blame for my current state right now.
[0:42:47 – 0:42:47] Erik: Didn’t get much sleep.
[0:42:48 – 0:42:48] Erik: No.
[0:42:49 – 0:43:03] Erik: So, yeah, I guess to boil it down, the Madness of Winters, whatever the one that had dragon’s milk, which I’m sure we could… You could refer to the Popalicious pinned beer sponsorship thread on the rtumblehomecast subreddit.
[0:43:03 – 0:43:04] Erik: Yeah.
[0:43:04 – 0:43:05] Erik: For when that was.
[0:43:05 – 0:43:06] Erik: And also for the Heineken episode.
[0:43:08 – 0:43:10] Erik: And then just generally any of the in-field episodes.
[0:43:12 – 0:43:13] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:43:13 – 0:43:14] Adam: Yeah, I mean, if we got a bag of wine…
[0:43:15 – 0:43:17] Adam: You never know what’s going to happen.
[0:43:17 – 0:43:24] Adam: You just get a little excited and, I don’t know, sometimes we’ll record over the course of an entire day.
[0:43:24 – 0:43:25] Erik: That’s true too, yeah.
[0:43:25 – 0:43:32] Erik: I feel like we usually, especially the open water in the field stuff, we usually kind of ratchet down the field mics.
[0:43:32 – 0:43:34] Erik: Throw the mic in the pack after dark.
[0:43:34 – 0:43:36] Erik: Yeah, once it gets a little dark, nobody needs to hear that conversation.
[0:43:36 – 0:43:38] Adam: Yeah, but sometimes it doesn’t get dark until like 11.
[0:43:38 – 0:43:39] Erik: Yeah, that’s true.
[0:43:41 – 0:43:41] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:43:41 – 0:43:41] Adam: Yeah.
[0:43:42 – 0:43:52] Adam: Generally, I really enjoy those episodes while we’re recording them, but then I later look back and I’m like, wow, those are… Got to clean it up.
[0:43:54 – 0:43:56] Adam: Use your skills and vocalization.
[0:43:58 – 0:44:09] Erik: Yeah, I mean, I don’t think that this podcast would be where it is today if everyone sounded like the last half of Madness of Winter for a good reason.
[0:44:09 – 0:44:22] Erik: I don’t think any of what we’re saying would come across with nearly as much relatability if we were just constantly hammered and slurring.
[0:44:22 – 0:44:24] Erik: I wouldn’t be able to listen to that for very long, so…
[0:44:25 – 0:44:36] Erik: um yeah we drank some beers over the course of an episode but it’s not very often that it gets out of hand yeah you know it happens though yeah having a lot of fun over here in studio k
[0:44:36 – 0:45:02] Adam: you know another one that comes to mind was the one where we were recording about batch along and then uh well that was like the day before your wedding brother andrew was like in route yeah so then he like showed up in the middle of the episode and i don’t know i just remember being pretty rowdy i don’t know if there’s any fat tongues but i remember that one being a real party that one brother andrew like wouldn’t talk we were like shoving the mic in his face i don’t even yeah that was a fun one
[0:45:04 – 0:45:04] Erik: That one was fun.
[0:45:05 – 0:45:05] Erik: I do remember that one.
[0:45:06 – 0:45:08] Erik: That was the first season.
[0:45:12 – 0:45:15] Erik: Do we need to get into that second sponsor?
[0:45:16 – 0:45:17] Erik: We got a bottle opener?
[0:45:20 – 0:45:22] Adam: I don’t have a bottle opener.
[0:45:22 – 0:45:24] Adam: I have a lighter back here you can have.
[0:45:25 – 0:45:26] Erik: Yeah, let’s see that lighter.
[0:45:26 – 0:45:29] Erik: This is the second sponsor from Scott.
[0:45:29 – 0:45:29] Erik: There you go.
[0:45:30 – 0:45:33] Adam: There is a little bit of this, what have you left?
[0:45:34 – 0:45:34] Adam: The bad habit.
[0:45:34 – 0:45:35] Adam: What have you?
[0:45:35 – 0:45:37] Adam: Well, that’s why, because it’s named bad habit.
[0:45:38 – 0:45:39] Adam: So that’s why they’re saying drink bad.
[0:45:40 – 0:45:41] Adam: Oh, Jesus.
[0:45:41 – 0:45:42] Erik: I hope people that are listening.
[0:45:43 – 0:45:44] Erik: About time.
[0:45:45 – 0:45:48] Erik: You didn’t just stop after we made that stupid comment.
[0:45:48 – 0:45:49] Erik: What does that even mean?
[0:45:49 – 0:45:51] Erik: They probably just thought we were joking.
[0:45:51 – 0:45:52] Erik: Yeah, we were.
[0:45:52 – 0:45:53] Erik: We were joking.
[0:45:53 – 0:45:54] Erik: You never know.
[0:45:54 – 0:45:54] Erik: That’s right.
[0:45:56 – 0:46:18] Erik: so this is this yeah this is a good time to open another beer after we just got asked about why we drink so much i don’t think there was ever a question as to why i know i was just i was being a little defensive this is uh wiehen stefaner wittes weissenbach i think it’s german what do you think that’s on german to you
[0:46:19 – 0:46:19] Erik: Yeah.
[0:46:20 – 0:46:21] Erik: This is one big bottle.
[0:46:21 – 0:46:23] Erik: Well, I wouldn’t say it’s a big bottle.
[0:46:23 – 0:46:25] Erik: It’s in between.
[0:46:28 – 0:46:30] Erik: It’s a pint and nine fluid ounces.
[0:46:30 – 0:46:32] Erik: Not much to be said here.
[0:46:32 – 0:46:33] Erik: Die Dürstigmann.
[0:46:34 – 0:46:43] Erik: It’s bottled and brewed by Bayerisch Strauss Brauer Weichensteifen.
[0:46:44 – 0:46:45] Erik: And I took German.
[0:46:45 – 0:46:47] Erik: And this is a long…
[0:46:54 – 0:47:11] Adam: i have the thirst of a hungry bear i think is what i said if uh yeah i took german too in like seventh grade i took four years of it in high school i was in germany at one point and sort of speaking it i have also been to germany but none of the germans want to speak german they want to speak english with you
[0:47:15 – 0:47:17] Erik: They want you to explain all the Simpsons jokes they don’t get.
[0:47:17 – 0:47:19] Erik: Hey, buckaroo.
[0:47:20 – 0:47:21] Erik: Oh, it is white.
[0:47:23 – 0:47:25] Erik: It’s got a very dark bottle.
[0:47:26 – 0:47:32] Adam: I was thinking it was going to be a darker beer, but it’s… Oh, you want me to try and say this one?
[0:47:33 – 0:47:33] Erik: Yeah, go for it.
[0:47:35 – 0:47:40] Adam: Well, he’s got a guy on the top with a bird and a big old feather, so that’s a good start.
[0:47:42 – 0:47:43] Adam: And, uh, wow.
[0:47:43 – 0:47:43] Adam: Wow.
[0:47:46 – 0:47:49] Adam: Yeah, that was pretty good.
[0:47:49 – 0:47:51] Adam Singing-ish: Why are you saying it like that?
[0:47:52 – 0:47:53] Adam: Weissenbach.
[0:47:54 – 0:47:55] Adam: Oh, it’s a Weissenbach, huh?
[0:47:57 – 0:47:57] Erik: It’s a Weissenbach.
[0:47:58 – 0:48:02] Erik: Yeah, I would say that’s your classic wit there.
[0:48:04 – 0:48:04] Adam: Save a little.
[0:48:07 – 0:48:07] Erik: That’s good.
[0:48:09 – 0:48:19] Erik: the heck is this it’s definitely better than the uh get that crud out of there grapefruit ipa not that that was bad it was just a couple of mess
[0:48:22 – 0:48:23] Erik: Up next.
[0:48:23 – 0:48:24] Erik: Who’s this one from?
[0:48:24 – 0:48:25] Erik: Scott.
[0:48:25 – 0:48:26] Erik: Both from Scott.
[0:48:26 – 0:48:26] Erik: Double up.
[0:48:27 – 0:48:28] Erik: Two from Scott.
[0:48:28 – 0:48:29] Erik: Way to go, Scott.
[0:48:30 – 0:48:31] Erik: And maybe there’s a third one out there.
[0:48:31 – 0:48:32] Erik: I don’t know how delicious.
[0:48:32 – 0:48:34] Erik: You’re going to have to hang around to find out.
[0:48:36 – 0:48:38] Adam: Yeah, I’m going to give it four mmms.
[0:48:39 – 0:48:39] Adam: That’s good.
[0:48:40 – 0:48:40] Adam: Yeah.
[0:48:42 – 0:48:43] Erik: Thanks to be back.
[0:48:44 – 0:48:45] Erik: Thanks to be back to Germany.
[0:48:45 – 0:48:46] Adam: To München.
[0:48:48 – 0:48:49] Adam: No, no, no.
[0:48:49 – 0:48:51] Adam: This is more like Stuttgart.
[0:48:55 – 0:48:57] Erik: Rotenburg an der Taube.
[0:48:59 – 0:49:07] Erik: Andy, what’s the funniest slash strangest slash scary story a guest told you after getting back from a trip?
[0:49:09 – 0:49:18] Erik: Are there any times you sent someone out into the park and you thought maybe you should discourage them from going for fear it may be the last time you see them?
[0:49:19 – 0:49:20] Adam: Well, you can’t think like that.
[0:49:21 – 0:49:22] Erik: No, don’t.
[0:49:23 – 0:49:24] Adam: They signed the contract.
[0:49:24 – 0:49:26] Erik: You definitely, wow, there’s no contract.
[0:49:26 – 0:49:27] Erik: It’s more of a waiver.
[0:49:27 – 0:49:29] Adam: You got a contract with yourself, though.
[0:49:30 – 0:49:33] Erik: No, we talk about it, though, amongst the staff.
[0:49:33 – 0:49:34] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:49:34 – 0:49:35] Erik: They’re like, can you think those guys?
[0:49:35 – 0:49:36] Erik: Everybody always comes back.
[0:49:37 – 0:49:38] Adam: It’s amazing.
[0:49:38 – 0:49:39] Adam: They always come back.
[0:49:39 – 0:49:40] Erik: It’s a common question.
[0:49:40 – 0:49:42] Erik: Like, have you ever lost anybody?
[0:49:42 – 0:49:44] Erik: Have you ever had anybody go out and not come back?
[0:49:44 – 0:49:46] Erik: It’s like, no, never.
[0:49:46 – 0:49:47] Erik: I’ve never even had to call search and rescue.
[0:49:47 – 0:49:51] Erik: I’ve had a couple of people be a little late because of wind.
[0:49:51 – 0:49:51] Rando Music Clip: Mm-hmm.
[0:49:52 – 0:49:53] Erik: But…
[0:49:55 – 0:50:01] Erik: The only time that you ever question whether you should be going out or not is purely based on the weather and the conditions on the lake.
[0:50:03 – 0:50:08] Erik: I mean, just think about what kind of an outfitter you’d be if you’d be like, nah, you look like too much of a bozo.
[0:50:08 – 0:50:09] Adam: Get out of here.
[0:50:09 – 0:50:10] Erik: I can’t rent you this canoe.
[0:50:10 – 0:50:12] Erik: Why don’t you go try the putt-putt?
[0:50:13 – 0:50:15] Erik: Putt and pet.
[0:50:15 – 0:50:20] Erik: There are plenty of times, though, when you are watching people load up and you just think like, man.
[0:50:20 – 0:50:25] Adam: They’re going to have a wild trip for a number of reasons.
[0:50:25 – 0:50:26] Adam: Nodding vigorously.
[0:50:26 – 0:50:33] Erik: The gear they’re bringing out, the interpersonal dynamics that you can already get a sense of.
[0:50:33 – 0:50:37] Erik: But for the most part, yeah, I don’t really think too much about that.
[0:50:37 – 0:50:39] Erik: It’s usually a couple of groups a year.
[0:50:41 – 0:50:43] Erik: Funniest, strangest, scary.
[0:50:43 – 0:50:45] Erik: I think we’ve talked about a number of these stories in the past.
[0:50:46 – 0:50:50] Adam: Yeah, like seeing the person walk through a campsite in the middle of the night.
[0:50:50 – 0:51:10] Erik: yeah there’s a whole halloween episode i think last year that we did where we talk about a bunch of scary stories that one still creeps me out if i ever see somebody walk through my campsite in the middle of the night oh boy but there’s a yeah strange that’s also like there’s that pile of lumber that got found on mountain lake yeah that was weird that kind of comes to mind
[0:51:12 – 0:51:40] Erik: funniest though I don’t know there’s never really any like hilarious stories I love it when I see people arguing on a portage that’s always funny that is funny I don’t know why that’s funny it’s not funny but you can always get a little bit of a chuckle out of that but this yeah this is a story I don’t know if I heard I don’t even remember where I heard it it’s probably just an old wives tale at this point
[0:51:42 – 0:51:50] Erik: I think I heard it when I was over in Ely from somebody over there when I used to run dogs who had potentially worked at a summer outfitter.
[0:51:52 – 0:51:57] Erik: But it also could be there used to be this canoe.
[0:51:57 – 0:52:01] Erik: This is highly anecdotal and potentially apocryphal.
[0:52:01 – 0:52:05] Erik: So take it for a grain of salt.
[0:52:05 – 0:52:07] Erik: Take it with a grain of salt.
[0:52:08 – 0:52:17] Erik: They used to be like this fully bent in like two, like a taco shell, aluminum canoe hanging in front of like an old outfitter on the main drag.
[0:52:18 – 0:52:21] Erik: And I don’t know if I remember asking somebody about it or if…
[0:52:23 – 0:52:28] Erik: I read it online somewhere, and I have no idea if it’s true or not.
[0:52:28 – 0:52:34] Erik: It could just be one of those things that’s hilarious to think about as to how a canoe would get into that shape.
[0:52:35 – 0:52:47] Erik: And the story is that it was a bunch of these foreign guys that rented this aluminum canoe and then built up on either side of the fire –
[0:52:47 – 0:53:12] Erik: two like platforms with either rocks or wood or some nestled it in a tree the canoe this aluminum canoe yeah and then filled it with water and then started a fire under it to make a hot tub uh-huh and the canoe ended up getting like so hot that when they got in it the whole thing just like bent in half when they tried getting in the canoe and
[0:53:13 – 0:53:34] Erik: which i was a little borderline like there’s either that is an entirely fake story yeah or there was a i mean a lot of alcohol involved because like that seems like a lot of work first of all yeah to have it get bent to that point it must have been way up off of the ground i think it’s not even really that great
[0:53:35 – 0:53:39] Erik: No, and I mean, do you know how long it would take to heat up water in a canoe over a gondola?
[0:53:39 – 0:53:41] Adam: I’m just going to go ahead and believe that they did it.
[0:53:42 – 0:53:42] Erik: Okay.
[0:53:42 – 0:53:43] Adam: That’s the story.
[0:53:43 – 0:53:45] Erik: Yeah.
[0:53:46 – 0:53:46] Erik: Yeah, I don’t know.
[0:53:46 – 0:53:48] Erik: I mean, it’s, again, one of those ones.
[0:53:49 – 0:53:52] Erik: We’re kind of taking these questions like on the fly.
[0:53:52 – 0:53:52] Erik: Yeah.
[0:53:52 – 0:54:00] Erik: And I’m sure there’s 10 other stories that I’m not thinking of right now that, yeah, when you actually hear them, people coming off the water.
[0:54:00 – 0:54:04] Adam: Yeah, straight up haven’t looked at any of these questions ahead of time, so.
[0:54:05 – 0:54:08] Adam: This will be one of those situations where tomorrow I’ll think of that.
[0:54:08 – 0:54:09] Adam Singing-ish: Oh, I remember that one.
[0:54:10 – 0:54:13] Erik: Yeah, I’m sure I’ll think about it a little bit too, and there might be more.
[0:54:13 – 0:54:15] Erik: Were they asking for funny and or creepy?
[0:54:16 – 0:54:17] Erik: Funny, strange, or scary.
[0:54:18 – 0:54:32] Adam: Yeah, I don’t know if we talked about this on the Halloween episode, but I think the creepiest thing I ever heard that seemed like it was a legit report was the person camping on the Malign River who heard the French ghouls singing right in the camp.
[0:54:33 – 0:54:34] Erik: When did we hear about that?
[0:54:35 – 0:54:36] Adam: I thought it was on the Halloween episode.
[0:54:36 – 0:54:42] Adam: It was on a board somewhere on just creepy stories about ghosts in the park.
[0:54:43 – 0:54:56] Adam: It seemed to be a quite credible story that somebody had heard French singing in loud merriment, and then they came out of the tent convinced they were going to find people, and there was just nothing there.
[0:54:56 – 0:54:59] Erik: Like the beast singing when he sings the opera?
[0:54:59 – 0:55:01] Erik: Fa la la la, fa la la la.
[0:55:03 – 0:55:04] Adam: Yeah, like that.
[0:55:04 – 0:55:06] Erik: Actually, I do remember that story.
[0:55:06 – 0:55:06] Erik: I just don’t remember where.
[0:55:07 – 0:55:12] Adam: That one stuck with me because that became kind of like the French ghouls joke that we kind of always go back to.
[0:55:12 – 0:55:17] Adam: Like, watch out for those French ghouls on the border route.
[0:55:17 – 0:55:19] Adam: But this was up on the mine.
[0:55:20 – 0:55:21] Erik: The millennia.
[0:55:21 – 0:55:26] Adam: Which I still have never been, well, I’ve been on parts of it, but I’ve never done the millennia.
[0:55:26 – 0:55:27] Adam: It’s a smart river.
[0:55:28 – 0:55:29] Erik: That’s what it means, Eric.
[0:55:29 – 0:55:32] Erik: I think that’s, yeah, we did come to the conclusion there.
[0:55:32 – 0:55:40] Erik: Yeah, so Andy, yeah, I think that’s our best answer, but I’m sure like, yeah, like tonight I’ll be laying in bed and it’ll be just like, oh, yeah.
[0:55:40 – 0:55:45] Erik: I’ll have to make sure I keep my dream journal open for potential remembrances.
[0:55:45 – 0:55:50] Erik: So I’m going to turn it this way now, and you can do Matthew.
[0:55:50 – 0:55:53] Adam: Next up on the show, Matthew.
[0:55:54 – 0:56:01] Adam: If I only had room in my food pack for a box of wine or a bag of pizza biters, which do I leave behind and which do I bring?
[0:56:02 – 0:56:07] Adam: Alternatively, what’s the best and worst type of client to take on a guided trip?
[0:56:08 – 0:56:11] Adam: Now, we’ll field the first question, scratch the alternative.
[0:56:12 – 0:56:15] Adam: I mean, you can take that one, but I’ll go ahead and say it’s a box of wine.
[0:56:16 – 0:56:16] Erik: Yeah, no doubt.
[0:56:17 – 0:56:19] Adam: You’re going to want to take a nice 2021 Chalable Red.
[0:56:21 – 0:56:23] Erik: No.
[0:56:23 – 0:56:26] Erik: Yes to boxed wine, but no to Chalable Red.
[0:56:26 – 0:56:28] Erik: It’s already boxed wine.
[0:56:28 – 0:56:30] Erik: You at least have to get an actual kind of wine.
[0:56:30 – 0:56:33] Erik: What are you talking about?
[0:56:34 – 0:56:39] Erik: Chalable Red is literally like alcoholic Kool-Aid, and I can’t drink it all that much.
[0:56:39 – 0:56:40] Erik: It’s kind of gross.
[0:56:40 – 0:56:42] Adam: What about Refreshing White?
[0:56:42 – 0:56:43] Erik: No, even worse.
[0:56:43 – 0:56:45] Erik: Those are my two favorites.
[0:56:47 – 0:56:50] Adam: I hope somebody didn’t ask later, like, what’s your favorite boxed wine?
[0:56:50 – 0:56:51] Adam: Because I just gave it away.
[0:56:52 – 0:56:56] Adam: Yeah, we’re not going to talk about best and worst clients.
[0:56:56 – 0:56:56] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:56:56 – 0:57:00] Adam: I mean, I’ve never done a guided trip, so Eric would have to feel that one.
[0:57:00 – 0:57:02] Erik: Yeah, I won’t give any specifics, obviously.
[0:57:02 – 0:57:06] Erik: There was this one jerk, Jeremy, from Nashville.
[0:57:06 – 0:57:07] Erik: And I tell you, if he’s listening, no.
[0:57:09 – 0:57:10] Erik: Most people are great.
[0:57:11 – 0:57:12] Erik: There’s always just that dynamic.
[0:57:12 – 0:57:13] Erik: And I don’t know if I can…
[0:57:14 – 0:57:16] Erik: in a nutshell, boil it down.
[0:57:17 – 0:57:35] Erik: But I guess people that are willing to work and learn are very clearly the best, which 99% of people who are signing up for guided trips are going to be those kinds of people.
[0:57:36 – 0:57:40] Erik: I don’t know where the, that there’s like a, just a couple of handfuls of people.
[0:57:40 – 0:57:42] Erik: And it’s, you know, mostly when I used to do the dog sled trip.
[0:57:43 – 0:57:49] Erik: where you’re here to guide me and also do all of the work, and I’m going to do nothing else to help.
[0:57:49 – 0:57:51] Adam: Did you ever have anybody ring a bell at you?
[0:57:52 – 0:57:53] Erik: No, never had that.
[0:57:53 – 0:57:53] Adam Singing-ish: Ding-ling-ling.
[0:57:54 – 0:57:54] Erik: I’ve never had that.
[0:57:56 – 0:57:56] Erik: Woods boy.
[0:57:57 – 0:57:57] Erik: Woods boy.
[0:57:57 – 0:57:58] Erik: Woodsman.
[0:57:58 – 0:57:59] Erik: Woodsman.
[0:58:01 – 0:58:02] Erik: Can you relight my lantern?
[0:58:02 – 0:58:02] Erik: Yeah.
[0:58:03 – 0:58:04] Erik: I mean, most people are good.
[0:58:04 – 0:58:12] Erik: It really does boil down to just the kind of person they are, which is obviously inherent to them that I can’t change.
[0:58:12 – 0:58:17] Erik: And the best and the worst is just personality types.
[0:58:17 – 0:58:20] Erik: Some people you can tell you’re just not going to get along with.
[0:58:21 – 0:58:24] Erik: And there’s nothing that they can do to change that.
[0:58:24 – 0:58:27] Erik: That’s just, yeah, we’re just two different kinds of people.
[0:58:27 – 0:58:40] Erik: So you sort of have to just be, you know, as a guide, like the kind of the rock in a moving water is unaffected for the most part.
[0:58:40 – 0:58:44] Erik: Like you can’t let people that you’re guiding know like that you’re frustrated with them.
[0:58:45 – 0:58:46] Erik: Sometimes it happens.
[0:58:46 – 0:58:47] Adam: Be very unprofessional.
[0:58:47 – 0:58:48] Adam: Yeah.
[0:58:48 – 0:58:53] Adam: The best client is the one that brings a five liter of Chalable Red.
[0:58:53 – 0:58:53] Adam: No.
[0:58:54 – 0:58:55] Adam: Next up on the show.
[0:58:55 – 0:59:00] Adam: I think we satisfactorily answered that one.
[0:59:00 – 0:59:01] Adam: Next up on the show, Tom.
[0:59:04 – 0:59:07] Adam: I have dozens of questions, but here are the top ones.
[0:59:07 – 0:59:16] Adam: Would I be crazy to bring my own 65-pound sit-on-top kayak and make the western portage from Clearwater to Caribou by myself in late May?
[0:59:18 – 0:59:18] Adam: That’s the first one.
[0:59:19 – 0:59:21] Adam: It doesn’t sound like a great idea.
[0:59:21 – 0:59:23] Erik: It doesn’t sound like fun, but I mean.
[0:59:23 – 0:59:24] Erik: You could do it.
[0:59:24 – 0:59:25] Adam: You could do it.
[0:59:26 – 0:59:27] Erik: Nothing’s impossible.
[0:59:27 – 0:59:28] Erik: If you put your mind to it.
[0:59:28 – 0:59:29] Erik: Right.
[0:59:29 – 0:59:33] Erik: I mean, I wouldn’t recommend it if somebody was walking in and saying, hey, I want to go over to Caribou for the day.
[0:59:33 – 0:59:34] Erik: It’s just me.
[0:59:35 – 0:59:35] Erik: What should I do?
[0:59:35 – 0:59:37] Erik: I would never be like, take one of these kayaks.
[0:59:39 – 0:59:41] Adam: Yeah, I mean, do you have a portage pad for it?
[0:59:41 – 0:59:43] Erik: Yeah, it also depends on your setup.
[0:59:43 – 0:59:44] Erik: I have no idea.
[0:59:44 – 0:59:51] Erik: Like, it doesn’t sound like, I mean, yes, the weight is roughly equivalent to like a Grumman aluminum canoe.
[0:59:51 – 0:59:54] Adam: Yeah, the weight’s not a problem if you have a good way to carry it on your shoulders.
[0:59:55 – 0:59:57] Erik: Or if you don’t care about the bottom and you got a handle, just drag it.
[0:59:58 – 0:59:59] Adam: Drag that baby.
[1:00:00 – 1:00:01] Adam: All right, part two.
[1:00:01 – 1:00:05] Adam: Also, what day of the week are campsites most likely available?
[1:00:05 – 1:00:08] Adam: I’m targeting the East Bay of Caribou.
[1:00:09 – 1:00:13] Adam: So looking at the two sites over there, let me say those are two very nice sites.
[1:00:14 – 1:00:16] Adam: I don’t know, Tuesday?
[1:00:16 – 1:00:19] Adam: I’m going to guess a Tuesday, but maybe a Sunday is actually better.
[1:00:19 – 1:00:19] Adam: What do you think?
[1:00:20 – 1:00:26] Erik: Yeah, I’d say it’s still relatively close to like Sunday, Monday, Tuesday.
[1:00:27 – 1:00:28] Erik: Just go with Sunday, I guess.
[1:00:28 – 1:00:31] Erik: But it also depends on the time of year.
[1:00:32 – 1:00:36] Erik: Like July and August, you’re not really going to see much of a difference.
[1:00:37 – 1:00:38] Erik: Is there a pandemic on?
[1:00:39 – 1:00:41] Erik: Probably not going to see much of a difference from day to day.
[1:00:42 – 1:00:44] Erik: I would say up until this last year, yeah.
[1:00:45 – 1:00:50] Erik: Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, probably Monday being your best day to put in.
[1:00:52 – 1:01:00] Erik: I would say it still leans like most trips that I’m booking, regardless of the time of year is we want to put in, we want to drive up, uh,
[1:01:00 – 1:01:03] Erik: On Wednesday, stay in a bunkhouse.
[1:01:03 – 1:01:07] Erik: We’re going to put in on Thursday, and then we’re going to leave.
[1:01:07 – 1:01:08] Erik: We’ll be getting picked up on Sunday.
[1:01:09 – 1:01:10] Erik: So it’s like Thursday through Sunday or Friday.
[1:01:10 – 1:01:12] Adam: People are going to be taking advantage of that weekend.
[1:01:12 – 1:01:16] Adam: So go against the grain, as they say.
[1:01:16 – 1:01:19] Erik: Yeah, put in on a Sunday and take out on a Thursday or a Friday.
[1:01:19 – 1:01:20] Adam: That’s how we usually do it.
[1:01:21 – 1:01:23] Erik: Usually, but that’s also due to just when we have time off.
[1:01:23 – 1:01:25] Erik: That’s how we’ve always done it.
[1:01:25 – 1:01:27] Erik: Yeah, and again, not a guarantee.
[1:01:28 – 1:01:30] Erik: More of a suggestion than a rule.
[1:01:31 – 1:01:33] Erik: It’s a very common question though.
[1:01:33 – 1:01:42] Erik: And it’s also kind of one of those things that over the past five years, we’ve seen the popularity of the park kind of creep later and later into the fall.
[1:01:43 – 1:01:44] Erik: Like the secret’s out.
[1:01:44 – 1:01:45] Erik: Everybody knows late September is good.
[1:01:45 – 1:01:49] Erik: Like I also feel like the going on a Sunday, nobody’s going in on a Sunday.
[1:01:49 – 1:01:51] Erik: Like that’s kind of also really well known.
[1:01:52 – 1:02:00] Erik: So yeah, generally early in the week, weekdays, but don’t plan on it or don’t hope on it.
[1:02:00 – 1:02:01] Erik: It’s a guarantee.
[1:02:01 – 1:02:03] Adam: That thing made a terrible noise.
[1:02:03 – 1:02:04] Erik: Yeah, I told you.
[1:02:06 – 1:02:08] Adam: Poor little laptop.
[1:02:09 – 1:02:11] Erik: We’ve got… Ethan?
[1:02:13 – 1:02:14] Erik: I saw this in a store today.
[1:02:14 – 1:02:18] Erik: Do you think Sea to Summit is trying to compete with Coghlan’s?
[1:02:18 – 1:02:23] Erik: Well, as an audio medium, I should just describe what we’ve got here.
[1:02:23 – 1:02:31] Erik: And it is a Sea to Summit Ultrasil waterproof toilet roll holder within an outhouse.
[1:02:32 – 1:02:35] Erik: Or is it just a waterproof toilet roll holder?
[1:02:37 – 1:02:39] Erik: I thought originally it was an outhouse.
[1:02:39 – 1:02:41] Adam: I didn’t even actually look at it before I spun the computer.
[1:02:41 – 1:02:42] Adam: Can I get a look?
[1:02:42 – 1:02:42] Adam: Yeah.
[1:02:42 – 1:02:43] Adam: What the heck are we looking at here?
[1:02:45 – 1:02:51] Erik: So originally I thought it was a Sea to Summit outhouse, but it’s just a waterproof bag.
[1:02:52 – 1:02:54] Adam: Yeah, but it’s got a roller on it.
[1:02:55 – 1:02:55] Adam: What?
[1:02:57 – 1:02:58] Erik: How would that even work?
[1:02:58 – 1:03:00] Erik: Is this a Photoshop job?
[1:03:00 – 1:03:02] Erik: No, I don’t think we’re being trolled.
[1:03:02 – 1:03:03] Erik: Nobody trolls on Facebook.
[1:03:05 – 1:03:06] Adam: Well, I don’t know.
[1:03:06 – 1:03:13] Adam: I think it’s literally a Ziploc bag with a little rope through the middle.
[1:03:13 – 1:03:13] Adam: What the heck?
[1:03:14 – 1:03:16] Erik: Yeah, I think that there might be a way that…
[1:03:16 – 1:03:25] Adam: It looks like you can kind of hang it on a tree and then you can pull prison-grade toilet paper out of the hole.
[1:03:27 – 1:03:28] Erik: It just seems…
[1:03:30 – 1:03:31] Adam: I don’t want it.
[1:03:31 – 1:03:32] Adam: I don’t want one.
[1:03:32 – 1:03:33] Erik: I definitely don’t want it.
[1:03:33 – 1:03:36] Erik: I don’t think Sea to Summit is trying to compete with Coglins.
[1:03:36 – 1:03:38] Adam: It is a pretty silly concept, though.
[1:03:39 – 1:03:40] Adam: I get what he’s getting at.
[1:03:40 – 1:03:44] Erik: Well, maybe it’s the beginning of the end of the Sea to Summit company.
[1:03:44 – 1:03:47] Erik: No, I like Sea to Summit.
[1:03:48 – 1:03:49] Adam: Yeah, I don’t know.
[1:03:49 – 1:03:53] Adam: Just keep your toilet paper in a Ziploc bag like the rest of us.
[1:03:53 – 1:03:59] Adam: Or you had two bags, one within the other, and then a little twist tie.
[1:03:59 – 1:04:15] Erik: I mean, I would hope you’re not visiting the latrine during an absolute Vietnam-esque downpour jungle storm that you have to have the teepee actively sheltered while you’re pooping.
[1:04:16 – 1:04:20] Erik: So like, yeah, you just throw it in a Ziploc bag, go to the, yeah, there it is.
[1:04:20 – 1:04:22] Adam: So it’s an outhouse for your teepee.
[1:04:22 – 1:04:23] Erik: I guess.
[1:04:23 – 1:04:33] Erik: I don’t know why it says on the label outhouse in such large font because it does, like originally when I saw that, I thought it was a pop-up outhouse, but it’s not.
[1:04:33 – 1:04:35] Erik: It’s just an outhouse for your teepee.
[1:04:35 – 1:04:37] Adam: It’s got the conveyor belt.
[1:04:37 – 1:04:42] Adam: It’s got the little foot pedal and it’s got the camp bidet.
[1:04:43 – 1:04:45] Erik: We’ve got a couple more here.
[1:04:46 – 1:04:52] Erik: Jared, any good books on railroad mining logging history in and around the BWCA?
[1:04:53 – 1:04:54] Adam: Wait, is this Jared?
[1:04:55 – 1:04:55] Adam: Jared.
[1:04:56 – 1:04:57] Adam: Did Jared ask two questions?
[1:04:57 – 1:04:59] Erik: He did, but there was no limit.
[1:04:59 – 1:05:02] Erik: Nobody was ever set up to having a limit.
[1:05:02 – 1:05:03] Adam: Ask us anything, but only one.
[1:05:04 – 1:05:07] Erik: Yeah, ask us anything once.
[1:05:07 – 1:05:08] Adam: You used your ticket.
[1:05:09 – 1:05:11] Erik: I’m not answering this one, Jared.
[1:05:11 – 1:05:12] Erik: Sorry.
[1:05:12 – 1:05:13] Adam: I’m going to even remove my like.
[1:05:16 – 1:05:17] Erik: Mining?
[1:05:18 – 1:05:22] Erik: No, I don’t have any books that come to mind on railroad or mining.
[1:05:22 – 1:05:27] Erik: The only book that comes to mind on any of those would be the
[1:05:30 – 1:05:37] Erik: Myron Henselman ecosystem of the Boundary Waters.
[1:05:37 – 1:05:39] Adam Singing-ish: Henselman.
[1:05:41 – 1:05:42] Adam Singing-ish: We just chopped it, baby.
[1:05:43 – 1:05:44] Adam Singing-ish: Byron.
[1:05:44 – 1:05:45] Erik: Myron.
[1:05:46 – 1:05:47] Adam Singing-ish: Henselman.
[1:05:48 – 1:05:49] Erik: Yeah, it’s The Ecosystem of the Boundary Waters.
[1:05:49 – 1:05:50] Erik: That is a great book.
[1:05:51 – 1:06:00] Erik: It’s one of many – I’m sure there’s many chapters about the ecosystem of the forest in terms of the trees and logging.
[1:06:01 – 1:06:04] Erik: But there’s all kinds of information about wolves, coyotes, the animals.
[1:06:06 – 1:06:11] Erik: But I know that article that we read in November about the –
[1:06:12 – 1:06:36] Erik: sap trees and the culturally modified trees like a lot of the information that they were basing on basing off where to go was based on his records of trees their burn scars and like tracking the essentially the whole banjo is in a whole map of like when the last time it burned was um
[1:06:37 – 1:06:39] Erik: And there’s a lot of logging information in that as well.
[1:06:39 – 1:06:40] Erik: But railroad and mining.
[1:06:41 – 1:06:48] Adam: What about Benny Ambrose’s book, I Been Working on the Railroad All the Live Long Day?
[1:06:49 – 1:06:58] Adam: That was a pretty good one, but not really about, it was before he moved up here when he worked at the railroad, so not really relevant other than because he ended up living here.
[1:06:58 – 1:07:00] Adam: But it was a pretty good read.
[1:07:02 – 1:07:03] Erik: He was a caboose man.
[1:07:03 – 1:07:05] Adam Singing-ish: We’ll link in the caboose man.
[1:07:05 – 1:07:07] Adam Singing-ish: Keep that lantern lit, caboose man.
[1:07:08 – 1:07:08] Erik: Yeah.
[1:07:09 – 1:07:11] Erik: I’m sure there’s a number of them out there.
[1:07:11 – 1:07:12] Erik: None that I have read.
[1:07:12 – 1:07:15] Adam Singing-ish: I’ve been working on the railroad all the live long day.
[1:07:15 – 1:07:17] Adam Singing-ish: I’m going to move on up north now.
[1:07:18 – 1:07:19] Adam Singing-ish: Have a good time now.
[1:07:19 – 1:07:21] Adam Singing-ish: Have a good time now.
[1:07:21 – 1:07:22] Adam Singing-ish: You hear?
[1:07:22 – 1:07:22] Adam Singing-ish: Choo choo.
[1:07:29 – 1:07:35] Adam: What about when you showed me those historical images of the logging camp on Caribou?
[1:07:35 – 1:07:36] Adam: They had a little railroad.
[1:07:36 – 1:07:38] Adam: A little tiny railroad.
[1:07:40 – 1:07:41] Erik: Well, that’s the University of Minnesota.
[1:07:42 – 1:07:50] Erik: They’ve got a historical aerial photography log that you can just – I’m sure a simple Google search would prove interesting visually.
[1:07:50 – 1:07:52] Erik: But again, I can’t think of any books.
[1:07:53 – 1:07:59] Erik: But yeah, those are great because you can filter based on the decade that the photos were taken.
[1:08:02 – 1:08:03] Adam: Blimp.
[1:08:03 – 1:08:03] Adam: Those are blimps.
[1:08:04 – 1:08:05] Erik: Yeah, those are blimp photographies.
[1:08:05 – 1:08:05] Erik: Blimp shots.
[1:08:05 – 1:08:05] Adam: Yeah.
[1:08:07 – 1:08:10] Erik: Do you imagine if the reptiles started shedding their skins?
[1:08:10 – 1:08:19] Erik: If you’re in a hot air balloon with a reptile and they start sideways blinking at you and… A bunch of skins just kind of come drifting down from the sky?
[1:08:20 – 1:08:23] Adam Singing-ish: He just starts pulling on the… We’re going up.
[1:08:26 – 1:08:29] Adam: Gotta get as far away from the center of the earth as we can right now.
[1:08:30 – 1:08:31] Erik: Well, we’ve just got one more.
[1:08:33 – 1:08:34] Adam Singing-ish: I’ll just read it since it’s facing me.
[1:08:36 – 1:08:37] Erik: This is from Jake.
[1:08:37 – 1:08:42] Erik: One more on Facebook, which is probably going to be the last one since we’re at an hour and ten here.
[1:08:43 – 1:08:47] Erik: We’ll be back next week with the 40 other questions on the subreddit.
[1:08:48 – 1:08:55] Erik: When is a Kevlar Min 2 not your preferred BWCA long-haul tripping canoe?
[1:08:59 – 1:08:59] Erik: Um…
[1:09:01 – 1:09:03] Erik: Never, to be honest.
[1:09:04 – 1:09:05] Adam: Now, what kind of question is this?
[1:09:05 – 1:09:06] Erik: I don’t know.
[1:09:08 – 1:09:10] Adam: Get out of here.
[1:09:11 – 1:09:12] Adam: No, I’m just kidding around.
[1:09:12 – 1:09:13] Adam: I am.
[1:09:14 – 1:09:15] Erik: I don’t know.
[1:09:15 – 1:09:20] Adam: Well, I was okay with the question until the last part and the long-haul tripping canoe part.
[1:09:20 – 1:09:23] Adam: You could just say, like, when would a Mintude not be your preferred canoe?
[1:09:24 – 1:09:27] Adam: All right, maybe there is a situation, but for long-haul tripping?
[1:09:28 – 1:09:28] Erik: Yeah, exactly.
[1:09:28 – 1:09:32] Adam: I mean, for one, I own a Mintude, so I’m just going to always do that anyways.
[1:09:33 – 1:09:40] Erik: Well, yeah, again, I think that when is a Kevlar Mintude not your preferred BWCA canoe?
[1:09:41 – 1:09:44] Erik: Strike long haul tripping canoe.
[1:09:45 – 1:09:47] Erik: That opens up a discussion for sure.
[1:09:47 – 1:09:52] Erik: I think based on the question as you present it, never.
[1:09:53 – 1:09:55] Erik: It’s my long haul tripping canoe.
[1:09:55 – 1:09:57] Erik: That’s what it’s designed for and it’s perfect at it.
[1:09:58 – 1:10:23] Erik: yeah um i guess maybe the only time that it would potentially not be is if on that long haul trip you were uh with um but it’s like this doesn’t really wouldn’t make that much sense if you’re with like a first timer or somebody who wanted to like spend more time fishing i know if you’re going on a three-person trip well okay then you want them in three
[1:10:24 – 1:10:24] Erik: Yeah, maybe.
[1:10:24 – 1:10:27] Adam: Then maybe we open up the discussion a little bit.
[1:10:28 – 1:10:30] Erik: I’m not a huge fan of the Min 3, though, either.
[1:10:31 – 1:10:35] Erik: Because once you get that third person in there, it’s just there’s not enough room.
[1:10:36 – 1:10:37] Erik: It’s so narrow.
[1:10:38 – 1:10:45] Erik: My preferred three-person long-haul tripping canoe would probably be a North Star.
[1:10:47 – 1:11:10] Erik: but i would just take the the four-person bell if you had three people well i don’t think we still have the four-person bell better put taps for that one well it currently exists it just has a different name oh yeah there’s a lot of comments on this one um oh on the canoe debate yeah i’m sure there is how many sewers river brigades are coming at us
[1:11:12 – 1:11:14] Adam: Or they want them serious river 17 fives.
[1:11:15 – 1:11:16] Erik: One of the responses was just always.
[1:11:17 – 1:11:18] Erik: So there’s some serious men to hate there.
[1:11:18 – 1:11:22] Erik: Yeah.
[1:11:22 – 1:11:23] Adam: Stable enough for you.
[1:11:25 – 1:11:25] Erik: Yeah.
[1:11:25 – 1:11:26] Erik: I don’t know.
[1:11:30 – 1:11:33] Erik: There’s another one that’s from Nick.
[1:11:33 – 1:11:37] Erik: When there is or never, I’ve paddled them multiple times.
[1:11:37 – 1:11:39] Erik: There is a reason I did not buy one.
[1:11:42 – 1:11:51] Erik: I mean, we started… Well, we didn’t start, but there was the question about the musical inspirations and it kind of…
[1:11:52 – 1:11:58] Erik: Not that the two questions are related in any way, shape, or form, really, but at the end of the day, it’s so subjective.
[1:11:59 – 1:12:02] Adam: A lot of it’s just like, what did you paddle first?
[1:12:02 – 1:12:06] Adam: Your first big trip where you just fell in love with long-haul tripping.
[1:12:07 – 1:12:07] Adam: Yeah.
[1:12:07 – 1:12:09] Adam: And then you’re just going to be, you know, whatever.
[1:12:09 – 1:12:11] Adam: I got a Min 2 for 500 bucks.
[1:12:14 – 1:12:19] Adam: And then I took it on a 29-day trip, and it was amazing.
[1:12:19 – 1:12:25] Adam: So I’m going to change my mind on Min 2s because it doesn’t have enough rocker for you.
[1:12:25 – 1:12:29] Adam: Well, sure, maybe there’s plenty of nice canoes.
[1:12:29 – 1:12:30] Adam: I don’t know.
[1:12:31 – 1:12:32] Adam: I like how people get fired up about it.
[1:12:33 – 1:12:35] Adam: I get a little fired up because it’s fun to get fired up.
[1:12:35 – 1:12:35] Adam: I do too.
[1:12:36 – 1:12:36] Adam: I mean, I get it.
[1:12:36 – 1:12:37] Adam: But I like a Min 2.
[1:12:37 – 1:12:41] Erik: It’s like talking about music again.
[1:12:42 – 1:12:43] Adam: Or like, why are you a Packers fan?
[1:12:43 – 1:12:43] Adam: Well, I don’t know.
[1:12:43 – 1:12:45] Adam: I grew up in Wisconsin.
[1:12:45 – 1:12:46] Adam: That’s why I’m a Packers fan.
[1:12:47 – 1:12:52] Adam: Well, my first long haul trip was in a Min 2 and I own one, so I’m never going to change my mind.
[1:12:52 – 1:12:54] Adam: I’m not getting rid of it or why would you?
[1:12:54 – 1:12:55] Adam: It’s in fine shape.
[1:12:56 – 1:12:57] Adam: Yeah.
[1:12:58 – 1:13:00] Adam: These people are like, I’d never pedal them in two.
[1:13:00 – 1:13:02] Adam: It’s like, well, I don’t know.
[1:13:02 – 1:13:09] Adam: I love them in two, but I would never be like, I make fun of Sewer’s River occasionally, but I’ve also paddled them and they’re also fine.
[1:13:10 – 1:13:10] Erik: Yeah.
[1:13:10 – 1:13:13] Erik: I think that’s also like, okay.
[1:13:13 – 1:13:16] Adam: I’m not going to be like, I’d never paddle a Sewer’s River for real.
[1:13:16 – 1:13:16] Adam: No.
[1:13:17 – 1:13:18] Adam: I’d be fine if that was the option.
[1:13:18 – 1:13:19] Adam: Like, hey, you want to go on a trip?
[1:13:19 – 1:13:20] Adam: I got a Sewer’s River.
[1:13:20 – 1:13:21] Adam: I’m like, yeah.
[1:13:22 – 1:13:22] Adam: They’re sweet.
[1:13:23 – 1:13:24] Adam: The ribs, baby.
[1:13:24 – 1:13:25] Adam: They got the ribs.
[1:13:25 – 1:13:25] Adam: Yeah.
[1:13:25 – 1:13:27] Adam: Yeah, it’s… Flex weave.
[1:13:28 – 1:13:30] Erik: It’s a weird flex weave.
[1:13:30 – 1:13:32] Erik: You got that flex weave going.
[1:13:32 – 1:13:42] Erik: It’s like I was kind of trying to draw a comparison to music, but I actually don’t really think it’s that similar because, I don’t know, maybe I just don’t have…
[1:13:43 – 1:13:48] Erik: I mean, I’m an outfitter and I paddle a lot of canoes and I don’t think there’s that much of a difference between them.
[1:13:49 – 1:13:51] Adam: It’s just what you’re used to.
[1:13:51 – 1:14:14] Erik: yeah what are you used to as long as it floats and it’s not like gonna tip over at the drop of a hat but like it’s still at the end of the day what you’re comfortable with and what you actually like where it doesn’t really compare to music where it’s like no I would never sit down and listen to like aggressive like death metal rock there’s like yeah it’s still music but no that’s
[1:14:15 – 1:14:15] Erik: Not for me.
[1:14:16 – 1:14:19] Erik: Whereas, like, yeah, you can say it’s still a canoe, but it’s still a canoe.
[1:14:19 – 1:14:21] Erik: It’s not that much different.
[1:14:22 – 1:14:24] Adam: I’ve never tipped one over, like, when I counted.
[1:14:25 – 1:14:26] Adam: And they’re fast as hell.
[1:14:27 – 1:14:29] Adam: Like, that’s why I go for my Min 2.
[1:14:29 – 1:14:31] Adam: But I’m just used to it also.
[1:14:31 – 1:14:32] Erik: Yeah, I’m comfortable.
[1:14:32 – 1:14:37] Erik: Like, the width of the gunnels and the way that my knees kind of lock into them.
[1:14:37 – 1:14:38] Erik: Just how…
[1:14:39 – 1:14:45] Adam: Well, I guess we can finish by saying this, that the current Boost Room Challenge record is held by a Min 2.
[1:14:46 – 1:14:46] Adam: Yeah.
[1:14:46 – 1:14:51] Adam: And until somebody beats that record, then the discussion is closed in my book.
[1:14:52 – 1:14:56] Erik: Yeah, well, that’s, I mean…
[1:14:56 – 1:15:01] Adam: Check with the front desk at Clearwater for the record and to schedule your times.
[1:15:01 – 1:15:08] Erik: Yeah, I think if the question is specifically for us, Jake, the Min 2 is never my…
[1:15:10 – 1:15:16] Erik: It’s never not going to be my preferred long haul trip or even just any trip.
[1:15:16 – 1:15:19] Erik: I’m still like that comfortable with them.
[1:15:19 – 1:15:19] Erik: I’m just always bringing them on.
[1:15:19 – 1:15:20] Adam: You’re going duck hunting in a river?
[1:15:20 – 1:15:21] Adam: Yeah, I’ll take them in too.
[1:15:22 – 1:15:22] Erik: Yeah.
[1:15:23 – 1:15:24] Erik: Yeah, no, for sure.
[1:15:24 – 1:15:26] Adam: You’re going to paddle out to Five Mile Rock for no good reason?
[1:15:27 – 1:15:28] Adam: Yeah, take them in too.
[1:15:28 – 1:15:29] Erik: Yeah.
[1:15:29 – 1:15:35] Adam: Got to make it from Table Rock into Ely and you got to get there quick.
[1:15:35 – 1:15:36] Adam: Take them in too.
[1:15:36 – 1:15:44] Erik: Yeah, and there’s plenty of experiences that people have had in the past with them versus other ones that –
[1:15:47 – 1:16:06] Erik: tony has got a response here that’s you know specifically um as it comes to how they handle like waves i get i can kind of i mean we’ve had our experiences with the men too where we’ve basically had to be calling it a day because it wasn’t handling the waves but
[1:16:07 – 1:16:09] Erik: Those were also extreme circumstances where…
[1:16:10 – 1:16:14] Erik: I wouldn’t want to be on those waves in any canoe at all.
[1:16:14 – 1:16:18] Adam: Maybe a big grumman then, but you wouldn’t want to be in the middle of a trip with a huge grumman.
[1:16:19 – 1:16:20] Erik: Right.
[1:16:20 – 1:16:25] Erik: And then like the other thing is like the Souris rivers and the North winds.
[1:16:25 – 1:16:34] Erik: Those ones are the ones that you hear specifically talked about in terms of how well they handle like chop and waves and wind and stuff.
[1:16:35 – 1:16:38] Erik: But both of those canoes suck without gear in them.
[1:16:39 – 1:16:43] Erik: That’s why they do well in waves is because of the way that they ride.
[1:16:44 – 1:16:54] Erik: But if you’re just out for the day paddling, like those things ride so high in the water that you’re just like a little slippery, slippery floating leaf that’s going to get blown all over.
[1:16:54 – 1:16:58] Erik: So like, yeah, you want to have a conversation based on that question.
[1:16:58 – 1:16:59] Erik: It’s always the men too.
[1:16:59 – 1:17:02] Erik: It’s with a loaded canoe and it’s for long hauling.
[1:17:02 – 1:17:04] Adam: Yeah, long-haul tripping.
[1:17:04 – 1:17:05] Adam: It’s right in the question.
[1:17:05 – 1:17:09] Erik: You’re sitting there fishing with Bobby and Rex.
[1:17:10 – 1:17:11] Erik: Yeah, bust out the Champlain.
[1:17:12 – 1:17:13] Erik: Yeah.
[1:17:13 – 1:17:14] Erik: Basically, you’re just floating.
[1:17:14 – 1:17:17] Adam: You can stand up and cast your husky jerk.
[1:17:18 – 1:17:18] Erik: Yeah.
[1:17:19 – 1:17:24] Erik: There’s all kinds of different ways we can talk about canoes, but kind of painted us into a corner with that question.
[1:17:25 – 1:17:30] Adam: By the way, the Bostrom Classic record includes a soak at Johnson Falls.
[1:17:30 – 1:17:30] Erik: Yeah.
[1:17:31 – 1:17:33] Adam: So you have to do that.
[1:17:33 – 1:17:34] Adam: You have to do it.
[1:17:34 – 1:17:35] Erik: At this point, you just have to do that.
[1:17:35 – 1:17:37] Adam: That’s part of the Bostrom Classic.
[1:17:38 – 1:17:40] Adam: So no cutting that out, just to say.
[1:17:41 – 1:17:42] Adam: And you’ve got to relax and mean it.
[1:17:43 – 1:17:43] Erik: Yeah.
[1:17:45 – 1:17:49] Erik: Well, that’s all the questions on Facebook.
[1:17:50 – 1:17:51] Erik: We are…
[1:17:53 – 1:18:02] Erik: Going to come back next week with the slew of questions on our subreddit.
[1:18:02 – 1:18:10] Erik: So, if you’re listening to this and it’s Sunday, January 3rd, and you still want to ask us a question…
[1:18:11 – 1:18:14] Erik: TumbleHomeCast at gmail.com.
[1:18:14 – 1:18:17] Erik: You’ve got probably another three, four, five days.
[1:18:18 – 1:18:22] Erik: Or you can still get on to the subreddit.
[1:18:22 – 1:18:28] Erik: 300th subscriber to the subreddit gets a free membership to the subreddit.
[1:18:29 – 1:18:54] Erik: um you can also still ask it on there it’s probably buried a little bit at this point maybe down a scroll a half scroll look for the question of the week ask us anything still an opportunity we will go through all of them what about a voicemail can we still take a voicemail we can still take a voicemail answering machine that’s still out there what is my purpose in life you answer the questions yeah anything else
[1:18:56 – 1:18:57] Adam: No, sir.
[1:18:59 – 1:19:01] Adam: I’ll just say again, Happy New Year.
[1:19:02 – 1:19:04] Adam: And this is episode 0127.
[1:19:04 – 1:19:06] Adam: That’s right.
[1:19:06 – 1:19:07] Adam: We updated the notes on that one.
[1:19:12 – 1:19:15] Adam: No, and I have one more thing.
[1:19:15 – 1:19:16] Adam: I do have one more thing.
[1:19:17 – 1:19:24] Adam: We speculated on whether or not the town ice skating rink would be open now that all the lakes are ruined and you can’t wild ice skate anymore.
[1:19:25 – 1:19:26] Adam: The town rink is open.
[1:19:26 – 1:19:26] Adam: Nice.
[1:19:27 – 1:19:28] Adam: So that’s great.
[1:19:29 – 1:19:29] Adam: That is great.
[1:19:30 – 1:19:33] Adam: So we got to go over there sometime soon and slap some rippers.
[1:19:34 – 1:19:35] Erik: Slap some rippers.
[1:19:36 – 1:19:41] Adam: And anyway, we need somebody for our Fantasy Hockey League also.
[1:19:41 – 1:19:42] Adam: We’re de-quit.
[1:19:42 – 1:19:43] Adam: Oh, we’re down to seven?
[1:19:44 – 1:19:45] Adam: We need somebody.
[1:19:45 – 1:19:49] Adam: So if you get this, send a message to the Gmail.
[1:19:50 – 1:19:53] Adam: We’re looking for one manager for the Fantasy Hockey League.
[1:19:53 – 1:19:55] Adam: Our draft is in like a week.
[1:19:56 – 1:19:58] Adam: So do your research.
[1:19:58 – 1:20:00] Adam: Kucherov is out for the year, Eric.
[1:20:00 – 1:20:01] Erik: LTIR.
[1:20:01 – 1:20:04] Erik: Yeah, or if there’s a number of people, we could bump it to 10.
[1:20:04 – 1:20:05] Erik: Sure, there we go.
[1:20:05 – 1:20:06] Erik: I’m not going to 12, though.
[1:20:06 – 1:20:11] Adam: If you’ve listened this far, you made it through this episode, and you like fantasy hockey, you’re our kind of person.
[1:20:12 – 1:20:12] Erik: Yep.
[1:20:12 – 1:20:14] Adam: So hit us up.
[1:20:14 – 1:20:18] Adam: We’ve got a couple open franchises in the league, thanks to Deke Quinton.
[1:20:18 – 1:20:21] Adam: I’ve been trying to work on Adrian at work, but he just won’t join.
[1:20:21 – 1:20:23] Adam: He doesn’t do the hockey, Eric.
[1:20:23 – 1:20:30] Erik: Yeah, if you send us an email, that will be enough, but if you really want to get bumped to the top, send us an email with the secret word.
[1:20:31 – 1:20:33] Adam: Slap those rippers.
[1:20:33 – 1:20:34] Adam: Slap those rippers.
[1:20:34 – 1:20:37] Adam: Hashtag slap those rippers.
[1:20:37 – 1:20:42] Adam: All right, for Tumble Home, coming to you from Studio K, this has been a real fun one.
[1:20:42 – 1:20:44] Adam: I’m looking forward to next week’s questions.
[1:20:44 – 1:20:46] Adam: I’m glad nobody asked anything too intimate or weird.
[1:20:47 – 1:20:48] Adam: It’s been fun.
[1:20:48 – 1:20:50] Adam: We’ll come to you next week.
[1:20:50 – 1:20:50] Adam: Remember…
[1:20:52 – 1:20:53] Adam: What was the saying?
[1:20:53 – 1:20:54] Adam: Life is precious.
[1:20:54 – 1:20:56] Adam: And every day is a miracle, Eric.
[1:20:56 – 1:20:56] Adam: Good night.
[1:20:56 – 1:20:58] Adam: Hit those tunes of the chip.
[1:21:15 – 1:21:27] UNKNOWN: I don’t know, I don’t know, I don’t know, I don’t know