We are finishing up listener thoughts on BWCA latrines and other wilderness waste storage systems. Apparently a poo conveyor belt exists out there in the world.
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[0:00:33 – 0:00:39] Erik: Welcome to Tumble Home, you dirty peekers.
[0:00:39 – 0:00:41] Erik: You know who you are.
[0:00:41 – 0:00:42] Erik: All of you.
[0:00:42 – 0:00:44] Erik: It’s every single person listening.
[0:00:45 – 0:00:47] Erik: Or if you don’t think you are…
[0:00:48 – 0:00:49] Erik: You’re lying to yourself.
[0:00:49 – 0:00:50] Erik: My name is Eric.
[0:00:51 – 0:00:52] Erik: This is episode 121.
[0:00:52 – 0:00:59] Erik: I am joined in Studio K2, as always, by my good friend Adam.
[0:00:59 – 0:01:00] Adam: Hello.
[0:01:00 – 0:01:03] Adam: Hey, it’s a beautiful night here in K2.
[0:01:04 – 0:01:06] Adam: I heard the KP index might be on the rise tonight.
[0:01:07 – 0:01:07] Adam: Oh, yeah?
[0:01:07 – 0:01:08] Adam: Keep looking up, Eric.
[0:01:09 – 0:01:10] Erik: Oh, well, let’s look up right now.
[0:01:10 – 0:01:12] Erik: Just an old half moon.
[0:01:12 – 0:01:13] Adam: It’s a medium.
[0:01:13 – 0:01:14] Adam: Old medium.
[0:01:14 – 0:01:16] Adam: They’re dangling over us.
[0:01:16 – 0:01:18] Adam: We’re here for Treen Talk.
[0:01:18 – 0:01:20] Erik: Treen Chat Part 2.
[0:01:21 – 0:01:23] Adam: Old brown town rollo Tony.
[0:01:23 – 0:01:25] Adam: You know what I saw on the way over tonight?
[0:01:25 – 0:01:25] Adam: Not an owl.
[0:01:25 – 0:01:29] Adam: I saw a helicopter with a bag full of trains.
[0:01:29 – 0:01:30] Adam: Loose trains.
[0:01:30 – 0:01:31] Adam: They weren’t even stacked neatly.
[0:01:31 – 0:01:41] Erik: Oh, no, it would just be a cartoonishly large-sized net just filled with loose latrines, not in any way, shape, or form, organized.
[0:01:42 – 0:01:48] Adam: I think I just listened to the last episode, pretty much finished it up on the drive over.
[0:01:48 – 0:02:13] Adam: k2 here i gotta say i’m gonna put it in one of my top 10 favorite episodes i laughed a lot re-listening to that which may qualifies me as a certified psychopath but it was a pretty funny episode and i think it was all the loon bleeps the general uh good vibes yeah you definitely qualifies you as a path of some sort socio psycho pyro
[0:02:13 – 0:02:18] Adam: But I decided I’m not ever going to say latrine again after that one.
[0:02:18 – 0:02:20] Adam: I’m going with just trine.
[0:02:20 – 0:02:21] Erik: Just trine?
[0:02:21 – 0:02:22] Adam: Yeah.
[0:02:22 – 0:02:23] Adam: Shortening it up.
[0:02:23 – 0:02:23] Adam: Okay.
[0:02:23 – 0:02:24] Adam: I love it.
[0:02:24 – 0:02:25] Erik: Agreed.
[0:02:25 – 0:02:26] Erik: Well, no, I don’t.
[0:02:26 – 0:02:28] Erik: I think I’m probably going to still say latrine from time to time.
[0:02:28 – 0:02:30] Adam: Have you adjusted all your schnozzles?
[0:02:30 – 0:02:31] Adam: Or schnozzles, Eric?
[0:02:32 – 0:02:33] Adam: Oh, you should see.
[0:02:33 – 0:02:35] Adam: Clean and change all your schnozzles daily.
[0:02:36 – 0:02:38] Erik: I had to make my big Coghlan’s order for next year.
[0:02:38 – 0:02:39] Erik: Yeah, big timers.
[0:02:40 – 0:02:44] Erik: Outfitters, they need to make those big orders and make sure the supplies are all in check.
[0:02:44 – 0:02:51] Erik: So, yeah, I doubled down on my schnozzle order for next year, and we’ve got a lot of schnozzles coming our way.
[0:02:52 – 0:02:56] Erik: We are sponsored, as always, by our good friends on Patreon.
[0:02:57 – 0:03:03] Erik: Hope you’re enjoying that wild, wacky turn of events that is the movie The Ritual.
[0:03:04 – 0:03:10] Erik: And shortly after this episode comes out, we’ll have another spooky one, most likely Deliverance.
[0:03:11 – 0:03:16] Erik: Barring any disasters, you can look forward to that.
[0:03:16 – 0:03:18] Erik: Thank you all for the support.
[0:03:19 – 0:03:24] Adam: Thank you for allowing us to be a strong, independent podcast.
[0:03:24 – 0:03:25] Erik: Oh, yes.
[0:03:25 – 0:03:28] Erik: We are still very much independent for the people.
[0:03:28 – 0:03:30] Adam: We’re not selling out to the corporate hacks.
[0:03:31 – 0:03:32] Adam: Thanks to our friends on Patreon.
[0:03:32 – 0:03:33] Adam: Thank you.
[0:03:33 – 0:03:46] Erik: Speaking of hacks, this section of the podcast is brought to you by Estwing Hatchets for hacking down all of your wrist-sized trees at waist level.
[0:03:47 – 0:03:50] Erik: Check out estwing.com.
[0:03:51 – 0:03:54] Erik: Independent podcasts coming at you.
[0:03:55 – 0:03:56] Erik: As well as…
[0:03:57 – 0:04:08] Erik: Some fine looking beers that if we didn’t get to today would be greatly underserved because they look like a couple of real, real warm weather.
[0:04:08 – 0:04:11] Adam: Looks like open water to me, Eric.
[0:04:11 – 0:04:13] Adam: Afternoon delight sippers.
[0:04:14 – 0:04:16] Adam: We’ve pretty much reached the end of open water.
[0:04:17 – 0:04:17] Adam: Oh, we have.
[0:04:17 – 0:04:18] Adam: We got to get this one on.
[0:04:19 – 0:04:20] Adam: Got to get it in before it fully freezes.
[0:04:21 – 0:04:22] Adam: These are from Laurie.
[0:04:23 – 0:04:25] Erik: These are a couple of Georgia beers.
[0:04:26 – 0:04:27] Erik: Athens, Georgia.
[0:04:27 – 0:04:30] Erik: Creature Comforts Brewing Company.
[0:04:30 – 0:04:31] Erik: Tropicalia?
[0:04:32 – 0:04:35] Erik: What does it mean when they put the little dash above an A?
[0:04:35 – 0:04:39] Erik: How do you pronounce the A when there’s just like a little bit of a wang on top of it?
[0:04:40 – 0:04:41] Erik: Tropicalia.
[0:04:41 – 0:04:44] Adam: You got to let me hear the music in it.
[0:04:44 – 0:04:44] Erik: Yeah.
[0:04:44 – 0:04:45] Adam: Yes.
[0:04:46 – 0:04:48] Adam: Is Athens the University of Georgia?
[0:04:48 – 0:04:49] Adam: Is that where that’s from?
[0:04:49 – 0:04:51] Erik: I don’t have any idea where the University of Georgia is.
[0:04:51 – 0:04:52] Erik: That’s a rock fact.
[0:04:52 – 0:04:54] Adam: I know that they are the Bulldogs.
[0:04:55 – 0:04:59] Adam: Yeah, go Bulldogs and let’s feed DeAndre Swift.
[0:05:00 – 0:05:01] Adam: Yes.
[0:05:01 – 0:05:04] Adam: He’s going to lead my fantasy team to a championship this year.
[0:05:04 – 0:05:04] Adam: I can tell.
[0:05:05 – 0:05:05] Erik: Oh, I can tell too.
[0:05:06 – 0:05:11] Erik: If the University of Georgia isn’t in Athens, then disregard everything I’ve said.
[0:05:11 – 0:05:13] Adam: But I still love DeAndre Swift.
[0:05:13 – 0:05:14] Adam: That guy’s electric.
[0:05:15 – 0:05:16] Adam: Let’s hit these things.
[0:05:17 – 0:05:20] Adam: This is a pretty nice looking can.
[0:05:20 – 0:05:20] Adam: Beautiful.
[0:05:22 – 0:05:22] Erik: Ripe.
[0:05:22 – 0:05:23] Erik: Juicy.
[0:05:23 – 0:05:24] Erik: Aromatic.
[0:05:25 – 0:05:25] Erik: Balanced.
[0:05:32 – 0:05:33] Erik: Yeah.
[0:05:33 – 0:05:34] Adam: Life’s a beach.
[0:05:35 – 0:05:41] Erik: Enjoy on a hot summer day was the accompanying note from Lori.
[0:05:42 – 0:05:46] Adam: Well, it reached upwards of, heck, I… 29.
[0:05:47 – 0:05:48] Adam: Heck, I might say 33.
[0:05:48 – 0:05:50] Adam: Might hit 33 in town today.
[0:05:50 – 0:05:59] Erik: Yeah, it was intermittent snow squalls and blue skies we were working with up at old Clearwater Lodge today.
[0:05:59 – 0:06:00] Adam: Yeah, I did.
[0:06:00 – 0:06:02] Adam: I got a little sunshine, I think, on my lunch break.
[0:06:02 – 0:06:04] Erik: All the boats are out of the water.
[0:06:04 – 0:06:06] Erik: All the motors are hung in the boathouse.
[0:06:07 – 0:06:08] Erik: Coming up soon.
[0:06:08 – 0:06:09] Erik: It’s boat moving day.
[0:06:09 – 0:06:11] Erik: Tomorrow is boat moving day.
[0:06:11 – 0:06:13] Erik: It’s a tradition unlike any other.
[0:06:14 – 0:06:15] Erik: Unlike any other.
[0:06:15 – 0:06:16] Erik: We will be live streaming.
[0:06:16 – 0:06:19] Adam: The migration of the boats.
[0:06:19 – 0:06:20] Adam: We’re clearing out the boat yard.
[0:06:20 – 0:06:21] Adam: Clearing out the boat yard.
[0:06:21 – 0:06:22] Adam: And the beer fridge.
[0:06:22 – 0:06:24] Erik: I had to actually buy beer.
[0:06:24 – 0:06:26] Erik: We didn’t end up with as much extra beer as possible.
[0:06:26 – 0:06:27] Adam: You didn’t have to do that.
[0:06:27 – 0:06:29] Erik: Well, it would have been like six Bud Lights.
[0:06:29 – 0:06:33] Adam: Moving the boats and the friendship is the reason to get together.
[0:06:33 – 0:06:35] Adam: Not the free beers.
[0:06:35 – 0:06:38] Erik: Well, we need to have a little bit more than six.
[0:06:39 – 0:06:41] Adam: Yeah, I wouldn’t cut it.
[0:06:41 – 0:06:42] Erik: No.
[0:06:42 – 0:06:43] Adam: Not for this group.
[0:06:43 – 0:06:45] Adam: It’s not going to work for this deal.
[0:06:46 – 0:06:47] Adam: You got a fact of the day?
[0:06:47 – 0:06:49] Adam: I got Iran share outdoor calendar.
[0:06:49 – 0:06:50] Adam: Fact of the day.
[0:06:51 – 0:06:52] Adam: October.
[0:06:52 – 0:06:53] Adam: 24th?
[0:06:53 – 0:06:54] Adam: Nice.
[0:06:54 – 0:06:57] Adam: Sunset tonight was at 6.12pm.
[0:06:58 – 0:06:59] Adam: I was driving home in the dark.
[0:07:00 – 0:07:02] Adam: Woodcock Migration Peaksack.
[0:07:03 – 0:07:05] Erik: Maybe that was what we saw.
[0:07:06 – 0:07:07] UNKNOWN: Shh.
[0:07:07 – 0:07:09] Erik: Let us speak no more.
[0:07:11 – 0:07:12] Erik: Begin south?
[0:07:12 – 0:07:14] Adam: From north to south or north to even farther north?
[0:07:15 – 0:07:17] Adam: Who knows what those woodcock are up to.
[0:07:17 – 0:07:17] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:07:17 – 0:07:18] Erik: All you got to do is you just got to grab one.
[0:07:18 – 0:07:20] Adam: They just go to the moon, actually.
[0:07:20 – 0:07:22] Adam: Yeah, they just don’t stop.
[0:07:22 – 0:07:24] Adam: They just actually don’t come back down that time.
[0:07:24 – 0:07:25] Erik: Right.
[0:07:26 – 0:07:27] Erik: Until next year, then.
[0:07:28 – 0:07:30] Erik: Farewell.
[0:07:30 – 0:07:34] Erik: And then that’s when you got to get out in the yard and comb the grasses.
[0:07:34 – 0:07:36] Erik: Because when they do that, they drop their beaks, too.
[0:07:37 – 0:07:38] Adam: And that’s the best part.
[0:07:39 – 0:07:42] Erik: You get out and you hunt those beaks up and then you deep fry them.
[0:07:43 – 0:07:45] Adam: Beak grabbers.
[0:07:45 – 0:07:46] Erik: Beaks.
[0:07:46 – 0:07:50] Erik: You dip them in some garlic aioli.
[0:07:51 – 0:07:53] Adam: Now you’re really speaking my language over there.
[0:07:53 – 0:07:54] Adam: That’s right.
[0:07:55 – 0:07:57] Adam: Gotta say, Eric, hair is looking great tonight.
[0:07:57 – 0:07:58] Erik: Yeah?
[0:07:58 – 0:07:58] Adam: Yeah.
[0:07:58 – 0:07:59] Adam: All right.
[0:07:59 – 0:08:01] Erik: Well, one of these days, I’m just going to shave it off.
[0:08:02 – 0:08:03] Adam: No, you don’t want to do that.
[0:08:05 – 0:08:05] Adam: Don’t want to do that.
[0:08:05 – 0:08:07] Erik: It’s kind of getting unwieldy.
[0:08:11 – 0:08:12] Erik: Moving on.
[0:08:13 – 0:08:25] Erik: Before we get to your responses to the question of the week, or weeks, or half month, or quarter of a year, whatever it ends up taking most of the time, these questions of the week these days.
[0:08:26 – 0:08:26] Erik: It’s a moonling.
[0:08:27 – 0:08:28] Adam: Hmm?
[0:08:28 – 0:08:29] Adam: Yeah.
[0:08:30 – 0:08:30] Erik: It’s a moonling.
[0:08:31 – 0:08:31] Erik: Okay.
[0:08:32 – 0:08:33] Erik: Is that what they call the woodcocks when they get up there?
[0:08:36 – 0:08:36] Adam: Moonlings.
[0:08:37 – 0:08:41] Adam: No, that’s just a full moon phase.
[0:08:41 – 0:08:41] Erik: Okay.
[0:08:42 – 0:08:42] Adam: Moonling.
[0:08:42 – 0:08:43] Erik: Moonling.
[0:08:44 – 0:08:46] Erik: We did throw it out last week.
[0:08:46 – 0:08:49] Erik: What is Rex’s wife’s name?
[0:08:49 – 0:08:49] Erik: Yeah.
[0:08:50 – 0:08:51] Erik: Two responses so far.
[0:08:51 – 0:08:51] Erik: We got a couple ideas.
[0:08:51 – 0:08:53] Erik: Both I think are pretty good.
[0:08:53 – 0:08:55] Erik: One came in the form of an email.
[0:08:56 – 0:08:57] Erik: They suggested Lorraine.
[0:08:57 – 0:08:58] Erik: Okay.
[0:08:58 – 0:09:02] Erik: And one in the form of a Reddit comment, and that one was Bernadette.
[0:09:02 – 0:09:02] Erik: Bernadette.
[0:09:05 – 0:09:06] Erik: I’m writing them down.
[0:09:06 – 0:09:10] Erik: I think I like both of them, but I think I prefer Lorraine just because it goes better with Rex.
[0:09:12 – 0:09:12] Erik: Rex and Lorraine.
[0:09:13 – 0:09:15] Adam: Well, what about any fun nicknames, though, we haven’t considered?
[0:09:16 – 0:09:16] Erik: Bernie.
[0:09:17 – 0:09:18] Adam: Bernie and Rex.
[0:09:18 – 0:09:19] Adam: Oh, there you go.
[0:09:19 – 0:09:20] Adam: All right.
[0:09:21 – 0:09:22] Adam: I’m on Team Bernadette now.
[0:09:24 – 0:09:25] Adam: That’s hot.
[0:09:26 – 0:09:26] Adam: That’s hot.
[0:09:26 – 0:09:27] Erik: Yeah.
[0:09:28 – 0:09:32] Adam: It’s really unfortunate what happened to Rex last week where he fell off the old brown volcano.
[0:09:32 – 0:09:33] Adam: Bernie!
[0:09:35 – 0:10:01] Adam: help bernie she’s no we’re not bernie send bobby send bobby no i’m not dealing with this bobby you go up there and fix it lorraine or bernadette i think we should uh we’re gonna leave it open uh we’re not gonna call a vote yet on this but i would say in the near future we should do a little mini tournament to figure this one out uh so keep the suggestions coming
[0:10:02 – 0:10:25] Adam: tumblehomecast and instagram.com you can send me a direct message there or comment on one of my cat pictures with a nice hashtag hashtag lorraine or hashtag bernie hashtag team or hashtag bernadette would also suffice hashtag bernie might associate you with something else altogether but do it anyway
[0:10:28 – 0:10:34] Erik: Well, you greased up in the mouth area for some reading?
[0:10:35 – 0:10:36] Adam: Yeah, this beer is pretty good.
[0:10:36 – 0:10:37] Erik: It is pretty good.
[0:10:39 – 0:10:42] Adam: I feel like I got some bioluminescence going on in my mouth.
[0:10:43 – 0:10:43] Adam: Wow.
[0:10:43 – 0:10:46] Adam: Maybe a little powdered kelp.
[0:10:48 – 0:10:49] Adam: What’s that even mean?
[0:10:50 – 0:10:51] Erik: Yeah, I’m not 100% sure what that means.
[0:10:52 – 0:11:00] Erik: All I’m trying to think of is the quote from Life Aquatic where Ned asks him about the luminescent jellyfish.
[0:11:00 – 0:11:03] Adam: What gives them this luminescent color, Steve?
[0:11:04 – 0:11:06] Adam: What gives them this effect of illumination?
[0:11:07 – 0:11:08] Erik: He doesn’t know the answer.
[0:11:09 – 0:11:12] Erik: You’re kind of making me look like a daydreaming Johnny.
[0:11:15 – 0:11:16] Adam: Oh, man.
[0:11:16 – 0:11:23] Adam: Oh, I got one more thing before we get into the bioluminescence of the episode.
[0:11:23 – 0:11:24] Adam: Okay.
[0:11:24 – 0:11:33] Adam: I had directly given to me today a piece of paper with a full out link to a YouTube video on it.
[0:11:34 – 0:11:34] Adam: What?
[0:11:34 – 0:11:37] Adam: I received printed YouTube today, Eric.
[0:11:37 – 0:11:38] Adam: Printed YouTube links?
[0:11:39 – 0:11:44] Erik: I think you can just shove that into your USB hole and it’ll just load it right up.
[0:11:44 – 0:11:50] Adam: I stuffed it into the DVD drive on my old refurbished PC and it pulled the video right up.
[0:11:50 – 0:11:51] Adam: Nice.
[0:11:51 – 0:11:52] Adam: Top notch, Hewlett Packard.
[0:11:52 – 0:11:58] Erik: Yeah, when’s the last time you’ve experienced a CD or DVD tray that moved in and out of a device?
[0:11:59 – 0:12:00] Adam: I still have one.
[0:12:01 – 0:12:04] Adam: If we ever get our hands on a DVD, that’s where we watch it.
[0:12:05 – 0:12:06] Adam: The old refurb.
[0:12:08 – 0:12:08] Adam: Very nice.
[0:12:08 – 0:12:11] Adam: I’m excited to hear what people have to say about their treans.
[0:12:11 – 0:12:13] Adam: What was the exact phrasing of the question here?
[0:12:13 – 0:12:22] Erik: Well, we’re starting with the original posting from a underscore pair underscore of underscore choppers.
[0:12:23 – 0:12:24] Erik: Chopper.
[0:12:24 – 0:12:30] Erik: And their original post was about the unsung heroes of the BWCA.
[0:12:31 – 0:12:31] Erik: And…
[0:12:35 – 0:12:38] Erik: He’s talking or she’s talking about latrines.
[0:12:38 – 0:12:43] Erik: All of us are looking for something special when we follow that single track out of the back of the campsite.
[0:12:44 – 0:12:47] Erik: We are usually either pleasantly surprised or disappointed.
[0:12:48 – 0:12:51] Erik: What instills these feelings in us that come from the soul?
[0:12:52 – 0:12:55] Erik: What creatures down this brown beauty hold and accommodate?
[0:12:56 – 0:12:59] Erik: If you’re lucky, you’re getting one of those new boys with the lid.
[0:13:00 – 0:13:01] Erik: There’s a lot to cover here.
[0:13:01 – 0:13:02] Erik: Are you a peeker?
[0:13:03 – 0:13:05] Erik: Do you do the kick before taking a seat?
[0:13:06 – 0:13:11] Erik: I recently encountered a top 10 experience in the way in the West Bay of Long Island.
[0:13:11 – 0:13:18] Erik: Little to no undergrowth, up on a slight hill, great view, no fresh usage, and very private.
[0:13:19 – 0:13:22] Erik: I wanted to stay out there for hours, and I did.
[0:13:23 – 0:13:24] Adam: Absolutely.
[0:13:24 – 0:13:25] Adam: The birding was immaculate.
[0:13:26 – 0:13:26] Erik: Yep.
[0:13:26 – 0:13:36] Erik: So we’re going to just quick run down some of the responses to this original one, and then we hijacked it in the form of a question of a week.
[0:13:36 – 0:13:37] Adam: As we are wont to do.
[0:13:37 – 0:13:39] Adam: I have a point of order.
[0:13:39 – 0:13:40] Adam: I have a question.
[0:13:40 – 0:13:41] Adam: What the heck’s the kick?
[0:13:42 – 0:13:48] Erik: Why do you feel like you give the brown volcano a little tap of a… Just to make sure anything that’s in there.
[0:13:48 – 0:13:49] Adam: Tap of the toe.
[0:13:49 – 0:13:50] Adam: Maybe around the edge of the lid.
[0:13:51 – 0:13:53] Adam: Is this to scare off any spiders?
[0:13:54 – 0:13:55] Erik: Maybe some crits that are in there?
[0:13:56 – 0:14:01] Adam: You don’t want to get bit in the butt by a critter or by a lightning.
[0:14:02 – 0:14:02] Erik: Maybe a mouse.
[0:14:04 – 0:14:05] Erik: I don’t think a mouse would bite.
[0:14:05 – 0:14:08] Erik: No, I don’t think it would bite, but it might be in there.
[0:14:08 – 0:14:09] Adam: It might scurry.
[0:14:09 – 0:14:10] Adam: Yeah.
[0:14:10 – 0:14:10] Adam: You don’t want that.
[0:14:11 – 0:14:11] Adam: All right.
[0:14:12 – 0:14:13] Adam: Well, that’s a new one.
[0:14:13 – 0:14:14] Adam: I’m going to try it next time I’m out.
[0:14:15 – 0:14:17] Adam: The kick.
[0:14:17 – 0:14:19] Erik: I boot the heck out of that.
[0:14:19 – 0:14:19] Erik: Really, huh?
[0:14:20 – 0:14:20] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:14:21 – 0:14:23] Erik: I kick the lid right off, too, half the time.
[0:14:23 – 0:14:25] Erik: That’s where all the lids are going.
[0:14:25 – 0:14:26] Adam: Thanks, Eric.
[0:14:26 – 0:14:28] Adam: He’s visited too many campsites.
[0:14:28 – 0:14:29] Erik: Slam!
[0:14:30 – 0:14:31] Erik: Bird dogging it.
[0:14:32 – 0:14:33] Adam: Coming to the show.
[0:14:33 – 0:14:36] Erik: With the first response here on the original posts.
[0:14:37 – 0:14:40] Erik: I’ll never forget the first time I walked up to a square stern.
[0:14:41 – 0:14:44] Erik: The craftsmanship left me grinning with confidence.
[0:14:45 – 0:14:55] Erik: And the way the lid makes a little bang when you walk away is a great exclamation point on a truly satisfying moment of peaceful reflection in the park.
[0:14:56 – 0:14:58] Adam: That was pure poetry.
[0:14:59 – 0:14:59] Erik: Yes.
[0:14:59 – 0:15:14] Erik: I always do feel like if you’re out with a group of people, you need to put the exclamation point on what you have just done by allowing the group you’re with to know you have completed your movement by slamming that lid for all to hear.
[0:15:15 – 0:15:15] Adam: The end.
[0:15:17 – 0:15:18] Adam: The square stern.
[0:15:18 – 0:15:20] Erik: Yeah, the new square ones.
[0:15:20 – 0:15:21] Adam: You could put a 9-0 on that thing.
[0:15:21 – 0:15:22] Erik: You probably could.
[0:15:23 – 0:15:25] Adam: Next up on the show, friend of the show, Barb Zbanek.
[0:15:26 – 0:15:34] Adam: I prefer the freestyle experience north of the border, but in the BWCA, I’m most deaf not a peeper or one who lingers.
[0:15:35 – 0:15:45] Adam: I’m deaf a latrine prepper, though, in that I have the hood up, TP measured, and folded in hand or pocket during the walk-up to minimize the hang time and
[0:15:45 – 0:15:47] Adam: and Skeeter Buffet to 30 seconds or less.
[0:15:48 – 0:15:49] Adam: 30 seconds or less.
[0:15:50 – 0:15:51] Erik: That’s record time.
[0:15:52 – 0:15:55] Adam: I do enjoy the contemporary lines of a square lid, though.
[0:15:56 – 0:15:57] Adam: Yes, very modern.
[0:15:59 – 0:16:10] Adam: Additionally, I appreciate a scenic winding latrine walk of 20 to 30 yards or so, as much as anyone, but there was this one at a lesser-used site on the northwest end of Lilsag.
[0:16:11 – 0:16:23] Adam: It had a moose sign riddled trail that I thought might be a spur off the keck for a while since it lasted several minutes and crested several hills and vales before reaching its heroic brown terminus.
[0:16:24 – 0:16:31] Adam: Well out of shouting range if one were to encounter a giant black squirrel while in a vulnerable state.
[0:16:32 – 0:16:32] Adam: Huzzah.
[0:16:33 – 0:16:34] Adam: I’m going to give that a double huzzah.
[0:16:35 – 0:16:35] Adam: Yep.
[0:16:35 – 0:16:36] Adam: Huzzah, huzzah.
[0:16:38 – 0:16:44] Erik: Yeah, some of those ones that started getting out there a little bit, those are always like, eesh.
[0:16:45 – 0:16:46] Erik: There’s also some where it’s like,
[0:16:48 – 0:17:11] Erik: can like see the people still sitting at the latrine yeah this is the absolute worst yeah this one’s way too close god like especially if it’s early or late in the year there’s no leaves friend friend hello this way a bit just pretend like you’re not watching me it’s like you’re the goalie in the world cup finals trying to like set the line like hey
[0:17:13 – 0:17:40] Erik: there’s an alley here pushing your own players out of the way to get a solid line the opposite of that get in my line of view branch thank you hopalicious if you’re gonna drop mud make sure to do it before sundown otherwise you’ll be donating blood from places you’ve never donated from before oh no see rule one go in the morning
[0:17:41 – 0:17:44] Erik: Yeah, rule two, never call it dropping mud.
[0:17:44 – 0:17:46] Erik: That’s kind of disturbing.
[0:17:48 – 0:17:51] Erik: I think we’ve got our first loon bleep coming up here.
[0:17:51 – 0:17:53] Adam: Next up on the show, we’re going to go with it?
[0:17:53 – 0:17:55] Adam: Heck yeah, go with it.
[0:17:55 – 0:17:55] Adam: Paddle faster.
[0:17:56 – 0:17:56] Adam: Might as well.
[0:17:56 – 0:17:58] Adam: It’s part of the series now.
[0:17:59 – 0:18:00] Adam: Thank you for the response.
[0:18:00 – 0:18:01] Adam: Paddle faster.
[0:18:02 – 0:18:03] Adam: Next up on Tumble Home.
[0:18:04 – 0:18:06] Adam: Nothing like with a view.
[0:18:06 – 0:18:10] Adam: I especially liked the one on the central peninsula on Agnes.
[0:18:10 – 0:18:16] Adam: Long walk away from camp up into an old growth stand and a nice open view of the forest.
[0:18:17 – 0:18:18] Adam: It’s a popular place.
[0:18:18 – 0:18:23] Adam: I counted no less than four previous places the Thunderbox had been located.
[0:18:24 – 0:18:25] Adam: Excellent.
[0:18:25 – 0:18:26] Adam: Excellent comment.
[0:18:26 – 0:18:28] Adam: That’s a double huzzah.
[0:18:29 – 0:18:30] Adam: Huzzah, huzzah.
[0:18:30 – 0:18:32] Erik: Huzzah, huzzah.
[0:18:32 – 0:18:41] Erik: The only other place I’ve seen a number of thunder boxes moved over the years was that campsite on Little Caribou.
[0:18:42 – 0:18:43] Erik: You heard about this one?
[0:18:43 – 0:18:43] Erik: It’s supposed to be nice.
[0:18:44 – 0:18:45] Erik: It’s got a nice one.
[0:18:46 – 0:18:49] Adam: Excellent vista and location.
[0:18:50 – 0:18:51] Adam: What about anything on Brule?
[0:18:51 – 0:18:56] Adam: I mean, a couple on Brule where it’s obvious there’s been some shenanigans.
[0:18:56 – 0:18:56] Adam: Yes.
[0:18:56 – 0:19:06] Erik: Well, I think we’ve both set our piece on our ideas on the dumpers on Brule, specifically the one from this last year.
[0:19:07 – 0:19:12] Adam: Volcanoes naturally do move over time due to the tectonics of the plates.
[0:19:13 – 0:19:13] Erik: Oh, okay.
[0:19:13 – 0:19:14] Adam: So think about that.
[0:19:14 – 0:19:18] Adam: Like, have you ever seen a map of the Yellowstone hotspot over time?
[0:19:18 – 0:19:20] Adam: And it’s like they have, you know, and that was here.
[0:19:20 – 0:19:23] Adam: And then 800,000 million years later, it was here.
[0:19:24 – 0:19:26] Adam: And then and so forth down here.
[0:19:26 – 0:19:26] Adam: Sure.
[0:19:26 – 0:19:27] Adam: Yeah.
[0:19:27 – 0:19:29] Adam: So that’s how it works with the brown volcano.
[0:19:29 – 0:19:33] Erik: Have you seen the Mount Brown orbs?
[0:19:34 – 0:19:36] Erik: This one’s from Life Worth Stealing.
[0:19:36 – 0:19:37] Erik: The dumper.
[0:19:37 – 0:19:39] Erik: I love the view.
[0:19:39 – 0:19:39] Erik: That’s it.
[0:19:43 – 0:19:44] Erik: Agreed.
[0:19:44 – 0:19:44] Erik: Yeah.
[0:19:44 – 0:19:45] Erik: They’re nice when they have views.
[0:19:45 – 0:20:06] Erik: There’s some ones I remember back in the day up on Siegel after some of the fires went through that when it was basically like the immediate interior camp was still relatively like foliage doubt and hadn’t been completely scorched, but you walk out of the campsite and you were just almost immediately on like a moonscape.
[0:20:07 – 0:20:11] Erik: Oh, and then you just be like up on a hill just like you can like see 360 around you.
[0:20:12 – 0:20:13] Adam: That’s great.
[0:20:13 – 0:20:13] Adam: Yeah.
[0:20:13 – 0:20:14] Adam: This is splendid.
[0:20:14 – 0:20:24] Erik: I believe there’s a picture out there somewhere of me just like sitting on a latrine just fully exposed up on a hill like the year after the cavity and Ham Lake fires.
[0:20:26 – 0:20:26] Adam: Just training.
[0:20:27 – 0:20:28] Erik: It’s a little bit better these days.
[0:20:28 – 0:20:29] Erik: Just training.
[0:20:30 – 0:20:30] Adam: Got my foot pump.
[0:20:31 – 0:20:32] Adam: Got my schnozzles.
[0:20:33 – 0:20:34] Adam: Got my map.
[0:20:34 – 0:20:35] Adam: Got my Coglins brand.
[0:20:35 – 0:20:37] Adam: Not a tree to be seen.
[0:20:37 – 0:20:38] Erik: A treeless train.
[0:20:38 – 0:20:39] Adam: A treeless train.
[0:20:39 – 0:20:43] Erik: Where are you going to hang that back sprayer?
[0:20:43 – 0:20:44] Erik: From…
[0:20:45 – 0:20:46] Adam: You have to bring your own stand.
[0:20:47 – 0:20:50] Erik: Yeah, you have to bring your Coghlan’s brand IV stand unit.
[0:20:51 – 0:20:52] Adam: It folds down.
[0:20:52 – 0:20:53] Adam: With four little wheels.
[0:20:53 – 0:20:54] Adam: Yeah, four wheels.
[0:20:54 – 0:20:56] Adam: You’re not allowed to have wheels in the park.
[0:20:56 – 0:20:58] Erik: It’s a mechanized man-made.
[0:20:59 – 0:21:03] Adam: Next up on the show, mgross483, six points.
[0:21:04 – 0:21:09] Adam: I spend most of my visit trying to imagine what it must be like to be a mouse.
[0:21:10 – 0:21:18] Adam: Would it be worth dealing with the occasional asteroid from above to live in one of the most protected possible places in the wilderness?
[0:21:19 – 0:21:21] Erik: Huh.
[0:21:21 – 0:21:21] Erik: Yeah.
[0:21:21 – 0:21:29] Erik: I mean, there was a big old fat woodchuck living in the Clearwater outhouse coming and going.
[0:21:29 – 0:21:30] Erik: And it’s like, yeah.
[0:21:30 – 0:21:31] Adam: It’s nice.
[0:21:31 – 0:21:31] Erik: It’s cozy.
[0:21:32 – 0:21:34] Adam: It’s nice, but yeah, you have to occasionally put up with.
[0:21:35 – 0:21:36] Adam: Close to the store.
[0:21:36 – 0:21:37] Adam: Just being dumped on.
[0:21:37 – 0:21:40] Adam: Got a great commute, good school district.
[0:21:41 – 0:21:42] Adam: Wow.
[0:21:43 – 0:21:45] Adam: Yeah, that’s a fine school district there.
[0:21:45 – 0:21:46] Adam: Two out of ten.
[0:21:46 – 0:21:47] Adam: There used to be, yeah.
[0:21:50 – 0:21:55] Adam: Well, you know, the wilderness itself is a school district.
[0:21:56 – 0:21:57] Erik: You can’t put a value on that.
[0:21:57 – 0:21:58] Erik: It’s a school of life.
[0:22:00 – 0:22:01] Erik: That’s what they say.
[0:22:01 – 0:22:03] Erik: Square jaw, seven, seven.
[0:22:04 – 0:22:11] Erik: I don’t remember why, but ever since I was a youngster, my dad always called it a thunder mug.
[0:22:11 – 0:22:13] Erik: I still call it that.
[0:22:13 – 0:22:13] Erik: I’m going to write that down.
[0:22:14 – 0:22:15] Erik: And it just seems right.
[0:22:16 – 0:22:21] Erik: Best one I have seen in a long time was during a trip to Winchell this past August on Campsite 3.
[0:22:23 – 0:22:25] Erik: 764 on Paddle Planner.
[0:22:26 – 0:22:29] Erik: Can’t picture it right now off the top of my head, but this… On the point.
[0:22:30 – 0:22:30] Erik: Was it that point one?
[0:22:32 – 0:22:32] Adam: Yes.
[0:22:32 – 0:22:33] Erik: That’s a rock fact.
[0:22:33 – 0:22:34] Erik: We’re going with it.
[0:22:34 – 0:22:40] Erik: This particular Thunder Mug has what seems like a 30-round uphill portage to reach it.
[0:22:40 – 0:22:42] Erik: You really get winded going up to it.
[0:22:44 – 0:22:46] Adam: Got winded going up to the Thunder Mug.
[0:22:47 – 0:22:52] Erik: And considering how challenging it can be to get to that campsite on your first day, this can be tiring.
[0:22:53 – 0:22:58] Erik: This particular mug is the new square style with that fancy pants lid.
[0:22:59 – 0:23:00] Erik: How many of these things are out there?
[0:23:00 – 0:23:01] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:23:01 – 0:23:03] Erik: What percentage do you think are those square fancy pants?
[0:23:03 – 0:23:08] Adam: I was thinking like 5% tops, but now I’m thinking it’s more like 25%.
[0:23:08 – 0:23:09] Erik: Quarter of them?
[0:23:09 – 0:23:09] Erik: Yeah.
[0:23:09 – 0:23:10] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:23:10 – 0:23:12] Adam: I had to rappel back down to the campsite.
[0:23:14 – 0:23:21] Erik: My worst this year was a campsite on Basswood where it seems they could not dig very deep and it was quite full.
[0:23:21 – 0:23:24] Erik: Not to mention no lid and not much privacy.
[0:23:25 – 0:23:26] Erik: Yeah.
[0:23:26 – 0:23:28] Erik: That’s kind of a combination of…
[0:23:29 – 0:23:53] Adam: attributes that makes it uh not a very fun experience just i know this would never happen but what if you get pulled up to a site eric and you you got out of the landing and you’re like walking up and before you even got to the fire grate there it was the brown volcano right there in between the landing and the fire before the fire grate yeah no trees somebody should make a bizarro u.s forest service if you’re listening like a joke site
[0:23:54 – 0:23:58] Erik: No, just put the fire grate up where the latrine should be and the latrine where the fire grate should be.
[0:23:59 – 0:24:00] Erik: You’ve got to go way back into the woods.
[0:24:00 – 0:24:01] Erik: I’d visit.
[0:24:01 – 0:24:01] Adam: I’d check it out.
[0:24:02 – 0:24:03] Adam: It’d be worth the experience.
[0:24:05 – 0:24:11] Erik: Yeah, no, speaking of the Clearwater outhouse, that used to be before there was a bathroom inside the lodge.
[0:24:11 – 0:24:16] Erik: That was like the main place people had to go was just the parking lot outhouse.
[0:24:16 – 0:24:25] Erik: And it was a bi-weekly task that somebody had to go take a stick and push over the pile of dumps.
[0:24:25 – 0:24:26] Erik: I’ve done that job.
[0:24:26 – 0:24:33] Erik: Otherwise, you’d get to a certain point where you can just imagine what would happen if it was like,
[0:24:33 – 0:24:43] Erik: Well, I’m not sure if I’m going to be able to fully relieve myself here because the bottom of the pit is like four inches below the lid here.
[0:24:43 – 0:24:49] Erik: So, yeah, there was like a stick, a designated stick you had to go in there and like poke the mountain over with.
[0:24:49 – 0:24:50] Adam: Yeah.
[0:24:50 – 0:24:51] Adam: Oh, that was on the list of duties.
[0:24:52 – 0:24:52] Erik: Yeah.
[0:24:53 – 0:24:54] Erik: Do you see what I did there?
[0:24:54 – 0:24:55] Erik: I see what you did there.
[0:24:55 – 0:25:07] Adam: Did you know, I don’t know if this has been disclosed on the podcast, but since we’re talking about that outhouse, did you know I have dug a hole for that house and then moved it over?
[0:25:09 – 0:25:17] Adam: Just like the hot spot on Yellowstone, even the outhouse at Clearwater has to occasionally move every year with the plates.
[0:25:17 – 0:25:19] Adam: You’ve got to move with the plates, Eric.
[0:25:19 – 0:25:22] Adam: Next up on the show, dog shorts.
[0:25:22 – 0:25:24] Adam: I love the username.
[0:25:25 – 0:25:28] Adam: That’s going on the short list for the tumblies, I would say.
[0:25:28 – 0:25:30] Adam: I’m going to put that on the list over there for the tumblies.
[0:25:30 – 0:25:31] Adam: Six points.
[0:25:32 – 0:25:36] Adam: Well, I love the comfort and convenience of the BWCA latrines.
[0:25:37 – 0:25:40] Adam: Part of me still prefers the freestyle system used in the Quetico.
[0:25:41 – 0:25:49] Adam: As you, Barbs Bannock, mentioned, finding a remote spot with a good view always makes me feel like some sort of poo pioneer.
[0:25:51 – 0:25:57] Adam: Also, feel free to call me out if I’m wrong, but I believe the lower squat encourages a cleaner exit.
[0:25:58 – 0:25:58] Erik: You’re not wrong.
[0:25:58 – 0:26:00] Erik: Well, that’s always the thing you’ve heard, the…
[0:26:01 – 0:26:12] Erik: The squatty potty, the whole natural expulsion of waste from the human body is supposed to be in a different angle than what toilets, the American toilet allows.
[0:26:12 – 0:26:13] Erik: Yeah, they’re too high up.
[0:26:14 – 0:26:14] Erik: Yeah.
[0:26:15 – 0:26:20] Adam: Anyways, have any of you heard of or employed your own version of the backcountry bidet?
[0:26:21 – 0:26:21] Erik: Whoa.
[0:26:21 – 0:26:22] Erik: Hey.
[0:26:24 – 0:26:29] Adam: A NOLS friend shared the procedure with me and I’ll say two things.
[0:26:30 – 0:26:33] Adam: One, it’s concerningly minimal, but it works well.
[0:26:34 – 0:26:35] Adam: I’ll spare you the rest of the details.
[0:26:35 – 0:26:36] Adam: Wait, where’s two?
[0:26:37 – 0:26:37] Adam: Where’s two?
[0:26:38 – 0:26:40] Adam: Is this a number two joke?
[0:26:43 – 0:26:43] Adam: I’ll say two things.
[0:26:44 – 0:26:46] Erik: Yeah, it’s concerningly minimal.
[0:26:46 – 0:26:48] Erik: Maybe they’re saying the but part.
[0:26:49 – 0:26:51] Erik: The but part is it does work well.
[0:26:51 – 0:26:52] Erik: It’s concerningly minimal, one.
[0:26:52 – 0:26:54] Erik: It’s concerningly minimal, two.
[0:26:54 – 0:26:55] Adam: It works well.
[0:26:55 – 0:26:56] Erik: Yeah.
[0:26:56 – 0:26:57] Adam: You just said that.
[0:26:58 – 0:26:59] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:27:00 – 0:27:00] Erik: Wow.
[0:27:00 – 0:27:05] Erik: Somebody was, because I think this was, wow, this was posted 26 days ago.
[0:27:06 – 0:27:09] Erik: I think that, yeah, apparently there is a backcountry bidet system out there.
[0:27:10 – 0:27:11] Adam: Yeah, and here we go.
[0:27:11 – 0:27:12] Adam: Somebody else is on board.
[0:27:13 – 0:27:14] Erik: Oh, no.
[0:27:14 – 0:27:15] Erik: Now there’s a link.
[0:27:15 – 0:27:17] Erik: Are we going to hit this link?
[0:27:17 – 0:27:18] Erik: Sierra Designs link?
[0:27:19 – 0:27:21] Adam: There is a… Oh, no.
[0:27:21 – 0:27:22] Adam: Oh, my God.
[0:27:22 – 0:27:23] Adam: It’s literally…
[0:27:23 – 0:27:24] Adam: It is a thing.
[0:27:25 – 0:27:25] Adam: Oh, no.
[0:27:25 – 0:27:26] Adam: What?
[0:27:26 – 0:27:27] Adam: All right.
[0:27:27 – 0:27:28] Adam: Time to slap the table.
[0:27:28 – 0:27:30] Erik: We got back country bidet.
[0:27:31 – 0:27:31] Erik: It’s a picture of a man.
[0:27:32 – 0:27:32] Erik: Wow.
[0:27:32 – 0:27:35] Erik: That’s not a very… Squatting in the woods.
[0:27:35 – 0:27:36] Adam: Oh, there’s a video.
[0:27:36 – 0:27:37] Adam: All right.
[0:27:37 – 0:27:39] Adam: Let’s just watch the video fresh.
[0:27:40 – 0:27:41] Adam: You can always edit this out.
[0:27:41 – 0:28:03] Adam: he’s pouring in the woods he’s pouring like a like a one of those like squirt top like bicycle water bottles pants down the back of his pants and he’s wearing pants andrew skirka is this a diaper scenario what’s going on here hard one insights this is why i won’t run marathons eric you gotta poop your pants and bidet your pants this is an incredible picture the bottle upward
[0:28:04 – 0:28:06] Adam: Let me get that caption.
[0:28:07 – 0:28:10] Adam: Tilt the bottle upward and let water flow down your crack.
[0:28:11 – 0:28:13] Adam: Scrub the area thoroughly.
[0:28:14 – 0:28:16] Adam: Splashing is not sufficient.
[0:28:16 – 0:28:22] Erik: I mean, I’m assuming that he’s wearing pants because he wouldn’t be able to just post a picture of him like clearly nude.
[0:28:23 – 0:28:26] Adam: As we’ve said before on the show, there’s nothing wrong with nudity.
[0:28:27 – 0:28:27] Adam: I see.
[0:28:28 – 0:28:29] Adam: So yeah, that’s just a demonstration.
[0:28:29 – 0:28:30] Adam: Like that’s how you do it.
[0:28:31 – 0:28:31] Erik: Yeah.
[0:28:32 – 0:28:33] Erik: I mean, it makes sense.
[0:28:33 – 0:28:34] Adam: This is pretty much just what we said.
[0:28:34 – 0:28:35] Adam: Wash your butt.
[0:28:36 – 0:28:36] Erik: It’s not that hard.
[0:28:37 – 0:28:39] Erik: But this is not – there’s no schnozzle involved.
[0:28:39 – 0:28:42] Adam: This is just an open-lidded water bottle that is pouring down his lower back.
[0:28:42 – 0:28:43] Adam: Skirka needs to get himself a schnozzle.
[0:28:43 – 0:28:45] Adam: Yeah, and a foot pump.
[0:28:46 – 0:28:49] Adam: And then spraying would be, well, good enough.
[0:28:49 – 0:28:51] Adam: Hey, Skirka, you ever hear of a foot pump?
[0:28:51 – 0:28:52] Erik: Yeah.
[0:28:52 – 0:28:56] Erik: You ever heard of the Coghlan’s brand backcountry bidet?
[0:28:56 – 0:28:57] Erik: That’s not just a cup of water.
[0:28:57 – 0:28:57] Erik: I think.
[0:28:59 – 0:28:59] Erik: It’s not going to be a thing.
[0:28:59 – 0:29:03] Adam: The tumble home can’t, but, but there, but there.
[0:29:05 – 0:29:06] Erik: All right, Ghost of At Abbey.
[0:29:06 – 0:29:07] Adam: This is great.
[0:29:08 – 0:29:09] Adam: This is going really well.
[0:29:10 – 0:29:17] Erik: As someone who has also done a lot of wilderness backpacking out west, the latrines represent backcountry luxury.
[0:29:18 – 0:29:22] Erik: No digging cat holes and getting lined up in the squat when the latrine is there.
[0:29:23 – 0:29:26] Erik: Even the bad ones have been nice in that context.
[0:29:27 – 0:29:30] Erik: My only issue has been mosquitoes at the belt line.
[0:29:30 – 0:29:31] Erik: Not as easy to spot…
[0:29:32 – 0:29:35] Erik: Not an easy spot to ignore if they get you there.
[0:29:36 – 0:29:40] Erik: Started doing a bonus spray of DEET just for the morning business.
[0:29:40 – 0:29:44] Adam: You could also just smoke cigars like Joe Pesci from Gone Fishing.
[0:29:44 – 0:29:46] Erik: Yeah, or just bring one of those big foggers.
[0:29:46 – 0:29:47] Erik: Fog the whole unit.
[0:29:48 – 0:29:49] Adam: I prefer smoking.
[0:29:50 – 0:29:51] Adam: I like to go with it.
[0:29:51 – 0:29:52] Adam: It’s more natural.
[0:29:52 – 0:29:54] Erik: Just a smoldering Cuban.
[0:29:54 – 0:29:57] Adam: Just smoke a lot while you’re doing your birding.
[0:29:57 – 0:29:58] Adam: It also helps the birds.
[0:29:59 – 0:30:00] Adam: They come in.
[0:30:00 – 0:30:01] Adam: They like that, too.
[0:30:01 – 0:30:01] Adam: Yeah.
[0:30:02 – 0:30:02] Adam: It’s true.
[0:30:03 – 0:30:05] Adam: Next up on the show, Gobi in my pants.
[0:30:06 – 0:30:06] Adam: Three points.
[0:30:08 – 0:30:11] Adam: Friend of the show, Gobi in my pants.
[0:30:11 – 0:30:12] Adam: Three points.
[0:30:12 – 0:30:13] Adam: That was much better.
[0:30:14 – 0:30:15] Erik: I’m glad you got that cleared up.
[0:30:15 – 0:30:20] Adam: Yeah, we don’t want to give an 80% effort when we can do 100.
[0:30:22 – 0:30:24] Adam: I too prefer the options of the Quetico side.
[0:30:24 – 0:30:29] Adam: Finding a nice hilltop overlooking the lake can make it a profound experience.
[0:30:30 – 0:30:32] Adam: As someone else mentioned, you feel like a…
[0:30:32 – 0:30:47] Adam: poo pioneer that’s two times for the bwca side i hate a trail to the thunderbox that’s uphill if the urge suddenly hits after several days of no action as often seems to be the case for me on trips
[0:30:48 – 0:30:49] Erik: Ah, we haven’t spoken to that.
[0:30:50 – 0:30:54] Adam: Having to trudge up a hill while squeezing down hard is no fun.
[0:30:55 – 0:30:59] Adam: Throw in mosquitoes and it can be a recipe for disaster.
[0:30:59 – 0:31:00] Adam: And new pants.
[0:31:02 – 0:31:03] Adam: Hashtag Uncle Rex.
[0:31:03 – 0:31:09] Adam: A recent trip on the Numbered Lakes had a trail that had raspberries along it, which was nice for the stroll back to camp.
[0:31:10 – 0:31:14] Adam: It also made for wary walks to the crapper since we figured the local bears…
[0:31:14 – 0:31:15] Adam: Like those berries, too.
[0:31:16 – 0:31:18] Adam: Truer words were ne’er spoke.
[0:31:18 – 0:31:29] Erik: Yeah, there’s something about those first couple of days out there where things just kind of get like… You get that early camp lockup where it’s like…
[0:31:29 – 0:31:35] Erik: I remember the three… Each of those October Quetico trips, I’d go to like day four.
[0:31:36 – 0:31:37] Erik: I’d be like on day four.
[0:31:37 – 0:31:45] Adam: I did mention it on the previous episode that I was having a little trouble in Quetico the first couple of days, but I kind of made it out to seem more like it was diet related, but…
[0:31:46 – 0:31:47] Adam: It wasn’t.
[0:31:48 – 0:31:53] Adam: You have butt anxiety when you’re, especially in Quetico.
[0:31:54 – 0:31:54] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:31:54 – 0:31:56] Adam: Only in Quetico has that happened to me.
[0:31:56 – 0:32:01] Erik: I don’t know if it’s just like all of a sudden you’re consuming too much and it’s not, I have no waste.
[0:32:01 – 0:32:04] Adam: I think it was the Saganigan squeeze going on there.
[0:32:04 – 0:32:10] Adam: You’ve got to get past the dead man’s portage before you’re allowed to dig the hole.
[0:32:10 – 0:32:15] Erik: I believe that’s what the Voyageurs called it, the old Saganigan squeeze.
[0:32:16 – 0:32:18] Adam: It wouldn’t happen to you if you were wearing buttless chaps, though.
[0:32:18 – 0:32:20] Erik: No, then you just let her rip.
[0:32:21 – 0:32:21] Adam: There you go.
[0:32:22 – 0:32:23] Adam: Easy peasy.
[0:32:25 – 0:32:27] Adam: As they say in La Francoise.
[0:32:28 – 0:32:30] Erik: Muddyfoot 10 slash 22.
[0:32:30 – 0:32:31] Erik: Go in October.
[0:32:31 – 0:32:31] Erik: No bugs.
[0:32:31 – 0:32:32] Erik: Enjoy the sit.
[0:32:32 – 0:32:35] Erik: Let er rip.
[0:32:35 – 0:32:36] Adam: Let’s get it again.
[0:32:36 – 0:32:37] Adam: Can you put that to a beat?
[0:32:38 – 0:32:40] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:32:40 – 0:32:42] Erik: Let er rip.
[0:32:42 – 0:32:43] Adam: Let er rip.
[0:32:43 – 0:32:44] Adam: Then we sit.
[0:32:45 – 0:32:46] Adam: That’s the end of that thread.
[0:32:46 – 0:32:47] Erik: That’s the end of that thread.
[0:32:47 – 0:32:49] Adam: Oh, that was a very nicely done thread.
[0:32:49 – 0:32:50] Adam: The OG thread.
[0:32:50 – 0:32:52] Erik: The OG thread.
[0:32:52 – 0:32:57] Erik: There’s going to be a couple of carryovers from that.
[0:32:57 – 0:33:02] Adam: Can we take a short break so I can go let it rip?
[0:33:02 – 0:33:03] Adam: You’re going to rip it?
[0:33:03 – 0:33:04] Adam: Night poop.
[0:33:04 – 0:33:05] Adam: Let’s do it.
[0:33:06 – 0:33:08] Adam: Middle of 121 Shreen Talk.
[0:33:08 – 0:33:11] Adam: This is time for the break that we are all needing.
[0:33:11 – 0:33:11] Adam: Yeah, sure.
[0:33:12 – 0:33:13] Adam: Everybody hit pause on this show right now.
[0:33:13 – 0:33:14] Erik: I’m not going to hit pause.
[0:33:15 – 0:33:21] Erik: The toilet is literally six feet away from the studio here, so we’re all going to get to enjoy the ripping.
[0:33:24 – 0:33:31] Adam: Town Ball Home podcast is brought to you by the Coghlan’s Camp Catheter.
[0:33:32 – 0:33:34] Adam: Don’t get out of your sleeping bag tonight, friend.
[0:33:35 – 0:33:36] Adam: Stay warm and snug.
[0:33:37 – 0:33:40] Adam: And go with the flow.
[0:33:41 – 0:33:42] Adam: Coghlan’s Camp Catheter.
[0:33:43 – 0:33:44] Adam: Now back to the show.
[0:33:47 – 0:33:48] Erik: Thanks, Coglins.
[0:33:49 – 0:33:50] Erik: You’ve got the catheter.
[0:33:50 – 0:33:53] Erik: I believe there’s a bedpan out there that you make as well.
[0:33:54 – 0:33:57] Adam: Yeah, too bad they didn’t beat us to the bidet idea.
[0:33:57 – 0:33:58] Adam: That one’s real gold.
[0:33:59 – 0:33:59] Adam: Yep.
[0:34:00 – 0:34:02] Adam: With the schnozzles, let’s be clear.
[0:34:02 – 0:34:09] Erik: Well, the main copyright patent is the schnozzle.
[0:34:09 – 0:34:12] Adam: If you don’t have the schnozzles, you don’t have the authentic product, friends.
[0:34:12 – 0:34:12] Erik: No, no.
[0:34:13 – 0:34:21] Erik: Well, getting back into comments, this one here is on the actual question of the week thread on Tumble Home Casts on Reddit.
[0:34:22 – 0:34:23] Erik: Digital Reddit.
[0:34:23 – 0:34:25] Erik: If you’re not on there, it’s all happening.
[0:34:26 – 0:34:27] Erik: It’s still all happening.
[0:34:27 – 0:34:29] Erik: This one is, again, from GobiInMyPants.
[0:34:30 – 0:34:36] Erik: I posted on the original comment thread but forgot to mention when traveling in the queue that there are no privies.
[0:34:37 – 0:34:37] Erik: Correct, sir.
[0:34:38 – 0:34:49] Erik: My preferred method there is to grab hold of a tree about three inches in diameter at elbow height, stand with legs about shoulder width apart, and then lean back, allowing the tree to support you.
[0:34:49 – 0:34:50] Erik: Whoa.
[0:34:50 – 0:34:54] Erik: Already have your hold dug and then practice precision bombing.
[0:34:55 – 0:34:57] Adam: We’ve talked about, like, proper leaning.
[0:34:58 – 0:34:58] Adam: Yes.
[0:34:58 – 0:35:00] Adam: This has taken the lean to a whole new level.
[0:35:01 – 0:35:02] Erik: Yeah, this is like a fulcrum.
[0:35:02 – 0:35:02] Erik: Yeah.
[0:35:05 – 0:35:07] Erik: Hot edit, I need to mention ASS.
[0:35:07 – 0:35:14] Erik: This is not a joke, and for places that are pure backcountry with no plastic potty, finding a duke not buried can happen.
[0:35:16 – 0:35:20] Erik: Oh, I’ve never seen Duke spelled D-double-O-K. What?
[0:35:20 – 0:35:23] Erik: I always thought Dookie was like D… Hello?
[0:35:23 – 0:35:26] Erik: Isn’t that the Green Day album?
[0:35:26 – 0:35:28] Erik: D-double-O-K-I-E?
[0:35:28 – 0:35:28] Erik: Yeah.
[0:35:28 – 0:35:30] Erik: Maybe it is D-double-O-K.
[0:35:30 – 0:35:34] Erik: I always just assumed it was like Duke, like the Archduke.
[0:35:35 – 0:35:39] Erik: We’re learning all sorts of things about ourselves here still in episode 121.
[0:35:39 – 0:35:40] Erik: The brown devils at Duke.
[0:35:44 – 0:35:47] Erik: The old brown devils at Duke.
[0:35:47 – 0:35:55] Erik: Yeah, Duke University brown devils versus the North Carolina brown heels.
[0:35:56 – 0:36:21] Erik: brown mountain where they see the orbs yes that’s in north carolina wow see it’s all coming together yes you’ve tuned in for two straight episodes of toilet humor you’re welcome poop poop jokes it’s not fun when it does and takes away a bit from the wilderness the wildness sorry i’m not affiliated with this link but awareness is key and they make a sweet sticker
[0:36:23 – 0:36:24] Adam: What’s ass stand for?
[0:36:24 – 0:36:26] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:36:26 – 0:36:28] Adam: We’re just making… You’re going to get Rick rolled here.
[0:36:28 – 0:36:29] Erik: Random…
[0:36:31 – 0:36:54] Erik: anti-surface that’s the movement for anti-surface so it’s more like mass than ass but i see what they did there i like it um that’s kind of what it was like when we were out west uh specifically when we were out in uh um the canyon canyon lands at what was that chesler park cp5
[0:36:55 – 0:36:56] Adam: CP5, baby.
[0:36:56 – 0:36:57] Erik: We’ve been there.
[0:36:57 – 0:36:58] Erik: Yes.
[0:36:58 – 0:37:02] Erik: We stopped at the ranger station to get our permit, and they had to send us with poop bags.
[0:37:02 – 0:37:03] Adam: I still have one.
[0:37:03 – 0:37:04] Adam: You have one still?
[0:37:04 – 0:37:06] Adam: Yeah, I still have one in the treasure.
[0:37:06 – 0:37:08] Adam: That one’s going in my dowry.
[0:37:09 – 0:37:09] Adam: Wow.
[0:37:09 – 0:37:10] Adam: Your dowry?
[0:37:11 – 0:37:12] Erik: For your second wife?
[0:37:12 – 0:37:12] Erik: Third wife?
[0:37:13 – 0:37:13] Erik: What?
[0:37:13 – 0:37:14] Erik: I don’t understand how another dowry.
[0:37:14 – 0:37:15] Erik: No, Natalie gets it.
[0:37:15 – 0:37:15] Erik: It’s for her.
[0:37:16 – 0:37:16] Adam: Oh, okay.
[0:37:17 – 0:37:17] Adam: She doesn’t know about it, though.
[0:37:18 – 0:37:18] Adam: She gets it when I die.
[0:37:19 – 0:37:21] Erik: Oh, that’s different than a dowry, I think.
[0:37:23 – 0:37:45] Adam: dowry is what like you get not what you think it is your family you your family would give you something upon your like wedding day it’s more of an heirloom then i guess okay yeah it’s a family heirloom and not a dowry one of your family i’ve watched enough antiques roadshow to know the difference well your first child gets it i really stuck my foot in my mouth there
[0:37:45 – 0:37:48] Erik: No, it’s funny that that would be a thing that would up the ante.
[0:37:49 – 0:37:50] Erik: Hey, let’s make this marriage happen.
[0:37:50 – 0:38:01] Erik: I’ve got an original 2013 Canyonlands National Park poop bag that has not been used.
[0:38:02 – 0:38:04] Adam: At auction, would fetch upwards of $15 to $20.
[0:38:05 – 0:38:08] Erik: Yeah, and there was five of us out there at that campsite.
[0:38:08 – 0:38:14] Erik: None of us used our poop bags, and we all basically like half sprinted out of that campsite.
[0:38:14 – 0:38:17] Adam: Yeah, we had the spirit about us.
[0:38:18 – 0:38:20] Erik: Oh, man, we moved quickly to that outhouse in the parking lot.
[0:38:21 – 0:38:21] Erik: Oh, boy.
[0:38:21 – 0:38:21] Erik: Yeah.
[0:38:22 – 0:38:26] Erik: Well, yeah, I think the ASS, yeah.
[0:38:26 – 0:38:27] Erik: There’s merit.
[0:38:27 – 0:38:32] Erik: I don’t think there should ever just be direct on the ground pooping.
[0:38:32 – 0:38:33] Erik: Nobody’s for that.
[0:38:34 – 0:38:38] Adam: I’m not even for rolling over the big rock and pooping under it.
[0:38:38 – 0:38:39] Adam: No.
[0:38:39 – 0:38:40] Adam: That’s nasty.
[0:38:40 – 0:38:41] Erik: That is pretty gross.
[0:38:41 – 0:38:42] Erik: Yeah, I mean.
[0:38:42 – 0:38:43] Adam: And no diapers either.
[0:38:44 – 0:38:44] Adam: Unless you’re like.
[0:38:45 – 0:38:46] Adam: And no anything else.
[0:38:46 – 0:38:51] Erik: A mile back into the woods that nobody will ever find it, maybe.
[0:38:51 – 0:38:53] Erik: But that’s pretty rare that that would ever happen.
[0:38:53 – 0:38:54] Adam: Nope.
[0:38:54 – 0:38:55] Adam: That’s a hard nope.
[0:38:57 – 0:38:59] Erik: I’ll read this one because then there’s another longer one after it.
[0:38:59 – 0:39:03] Erik: This is just a classic cheap underscore dancer joke.
[0:39:04 – 0:39:04] Adam: I love it.
[0:39:05 – 0:39:25] Erik: new tumble home cinema classic suggestion mad max beyond thunderbox what would the guy in the front of the uh the mad max vehicle playing the guitar do in the uh beyond thunderbox you wouldn’t have a guitar he’d have like a really metal set of uh binoculars looking for warblers
[0:39:26 – 0:39:33] Erik: No, I was thinking he would just have one of those, instead of like a, I think that they do exist.
[0:39:34 – 0:39:35] Erik: Like a teepee roll gun.
[0:39:36 – 0:39:42] Erik: Like instead of a t-shirt, he’s just shooting like rolls of toilet paper off into the distance.
[0:39:43 – 0:39:47] Erik: Or he’s just, instead of the guitar, he’s just playing like a huge log of poop.
[0:39:49 – 0:40:16] Adam: have you seen mad max oh yes he’s got like the like crazy mask on and he’s always playing that crazy guitar yeah like it’s a tricked out jeep yeah and he’s like bungee corded to the whole thing yeah otherwise it wouldn’t go that fast i want i need to know more about that guy from that movie like seriously what are the logistics on his existence oh god i can’t believe he’s playing a poop guitar maybe it’s a bass beyond thunderbox you got out the ante
[0:40:18 – 0:40:20] Erik: Maybe it’s the bass, just one chord.
[0:40:21 – 0:40:22] Erik: One chord bass.
[0:40:22 – 0:40:24] Erik: Yeah, he just plays the brown note the whole time.
[0:40:24 – 0:40:25] Adam: Jeepers creepers.
[0:40:26 – 0:40:29] Adam: Next up on the show, FZ6Camp, five points.
[0:40:31 – 0:40:34] Adam: I’m a fan of having a privy as opposed to having to dig cat holes.
[0:40:35 – 0:40:38] Adam: Open air privies are my favorite backcountry toilets.
[0:40:39 – 0:40:40] Adam: Doing business with a view and fresh air.
[0:40:41 – 0:40:48] Adam: It may not feel as wild out there with the obvious man-made features, but it is by far more sanitary for everyone.
[0:40:48 – 0:40:57] Adam: There are far too many stories of backpackers on bushy trails digging cattles only to unearth someone else’s previously buried pile.
[0:40:57 – 0:41:03] Adam: Some of the BWCA sites see enough traffic that I bet this would happen.
[0:41:05 – 0:41:07] Adam: Sidebar, guaranteed it would happen.
[0:41:07 – 0:41:08] Adam: I’m going to say it.
[0:41:08 – 0:41:09] Erik: For sure.
[0:41:10 – 0:41:13] Adam: Not to mention how rocky a lot of the BWC is.
[0:41:13 – 0:41:19] Adam: I could see a lot of folks not bearing far enough down or worse yet, surfacing, surface pooping.
[0:41:20 – 0:41:22] Erik: Anti-surface poop?
[0:41:22 – 0:41:23] Adam: I’m anti-ass.
[0:41:23 – 0:41:25] Erik: Well, we know what the S is.
[0:41:26 – 0:41:32] Adam: I could see a lot of people lazily not doing business 200 feet from water, camps, and trails.
[0:41:32 – 0:41:38] Adam: Nothing is worse than finding used teepee and turds not far from where you’re going to sleep.
[0:41:39 – 0:41:44] Adam: Finding used teepee within 20 feet of camp is something that happened to me this year on the Teton Crest Trail.
[0:41:45 – 0:41:46] Adam: Disgusting.
[0:41:47 – 0:41:53] Adam: I feel like having a designated privy eliminates a lot of these unsanitary issues and laziness.
[0:41:53 – 0:41:58] Adam: The best backcountry toilets have some branches nearby to act as a teepee holder.
[0:41:58 – 0:41:59] Adam: So that’s nice.
[0:41:59 – 0:42:00] Erik: That is nice.
[0:42:00 – 0:42:03] Adam: My method of madness relies on a travel bidet.
[0:42:03 – 0:42:03] Adam: Wow.
[0:42:08 – 0:42:09] Adam: Oh, man.
[0:42:09 – 0:42:10] Erik: All these bidets.
[0:42:10 – 0:42:13] Erik: We didn’t read any of these comments before we talked about the bidet last week.
[0:42:13 – 0:42:16] Adam: We’re being honest, and this is absolutely great.
[0:42:17 – 0:42:23] Erik: No, I just came in and trolled for all the good stuff and then injected it into our quote-unquote original content.
[0:42:25 – 0:42:29] Adam: Unlike how last week we definitely bragged about coming up with the campsite bidet.
[0:42:30 – 0:42:33] Erik: Now that we’ve gotten multiple links to other… We’re geniuses, Eric.
[0:42:33 – 0:42:34] Adam: We’re going to be rich.
[0:42:34 – 0:42:35] Erik: Copyright.
[0:42:35 – 0:42:35] Erik: Copyright.
[0:42:35 – 0:42:36] Erik: That’s a patent.
[0:42:36 – 0:42:37] Erik: We say it on the podcast.
[0:42:37 – 0:42:38] Erik: It’s a patent.
[0:42:38 – 0:42:43] Adam: We said it on an episode last week before we read this, so I’m sure that actually counts.
[0:42:43 – 0:42:44] Erik: It predates.
[0:42:44 – 0:42:45] Erik: This would hold up in a court of law.
[0:42:45 – 0:42:47] Adam: FC6Camp.
[0:42:48 – 0:42:52] Adam: Back on the show, my method of madness relies on a travel bidet.
[0:42:52 – 0:42:57] Adam: The travel bidet seriously changed backcountry pooping for me.
[0:42:57 – 0:43:03] Adam: It makes for an all-around cleaner camping experience with absolutely no crust.
[0:43:04 – 0:43:04] Adam: Mud butt.
[0:43:05 – 0:43:07] Adam: Or dingleberries.
[0:43:07 – 0:43:08] Adam: I’m moving my hand around.
[0:43:08 – 0:43:09] Adam: This is great.
[0:43:09 – 0:43:10] Adam: Do business.
[0:43:10 – 0:43:11] Adam: Squirt.
[0:43:11 – 0:43:13] Adam: Dry off with just a few squares or leaves.
[0:43:14 – 0:43:15] Adam: Wash hands.
[0:43:15 – 0:43:17] Adam: So much less TP is needed.
[0:43:17 – 0:43:25] Adam: And the final result is so much cleaner than only wiping, especially when trying to get as many miles out of a pair of underwear as possible.
[0:43:25 – 0:43:26] Adam: It makes so much sense, Eric.
[0:43:27 – 0:43:27] Adam: It does.
[0:43:27 – 0:43:32] Adam: With a group, we will leave a paddle laying across the privy trail to indicate if it is occupied.
[0:43:33 – 0:43:33] Adam: Ah.
[0:43:33 – 0:43:34] Erik: That’s nice.
[0:43:34 – 0:43:35] Adam: A few other notes.
[0:43:35 – 0:43:37] Adam: Snow makes a great wintertime teepee.
[0:43:37 – 0:43:38] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:43:38 – 0:43:40] Adam: If the privy has a lid, close it.
[0:43:40 – 0:43:45] Adam: For F’s sake, don’t put garbage, pads, tampons, or wet wipes in the privy.
[0:43:46 – 0:43:47] Adam: Pack it out.
[0:43:49 – 0:43:51] Adam: This might be the greatest comment of the entire episode.
[0:43:52 – 0:43:53] Adam: That was pretty good.
[0:43:53 – 0:43:53] Adam: Yeah.
[0:43:54 – 0:43:55] Adam: There was a…
[0:43:55 – 0:43:56] Adam: I’ll give it a triple huzzah, Eric.
[0:43:57 – 0:43:58] Adam: Huzzah, huzzah, huzzah!
[0:43:58 – 0:44:00] Erik: Huzzah, huzzah, huzzah.
[0:44:00 – 0:44:01] Adam: That was a triple.
[0:44:01 – 0:44:06] Erik: Yeah, there was a comment that might be in here still somewhere.
[0:44:06 – 0:44:14] Erik: I think it may have actually gotten added to the latrine chat.
[0:44:16 – 0:44:27] Erik: Which was a question about winter camping and how the Forest Service suggests you’re supposed to camp basically on the ice and not at designated campsites.
[0:44:28 – 0:44:29] Erik: Yeah.
[0:44:30 – 0:44:35] Erik: And then how that relates to what you do when you’re out there in the winter.
[0:44:36 – 0:44:41] Erik: And my suggestion was based on how we used to run dog sled trips in the winter, which would be…
[0:44:42 – 0:44:49] Erik: Essentially camping in places that made sense, but still like relatively adjacent to a site, not directly at one.
[0:44:50 – 0:44:52] Erik: And then we would just use the site for its latrine.
[0:44:53 – 0:44:55] Adam: That’s all I think you’re good for.
[0:44:56 – 0:45:06] Erik: Well, I mean, the only other thing is if it’s like super cold, which is what we do with when we’re out there with dogs, we have to obviously clean up after them, is you could just like…
[0:45:07 – 0:45:12] Erik: You could just go on top of the snow and then like pack that out as well.
[0:45:12 – 0:45:15] Erik: Maybe once it freezes.
[0:45:15 – 0:45:16] Adam: And it will.
[0:45:16 – 0:45:20] Erik: Yes, but it is sort of a gray area or a brown area.
[0:45:20 – 0:45:20] Erik: Am I right?
[0:45:21 – 0:45:26] Erik: The Forest Service always suggests in the winter to not camp at designated campsites, but they don’t really make a great choice.
[0:45:28 – 0:45:32] Adam: It’s, again, the Quetico thing where it’s so few people are actually doing it.
[0:45:32 – 0:45:33] Adam: It’s not a problem.
[0:45:33 – 0:45:36] Adam: It doesn’t really matter what you do out there in the winter.
[0:45:36 – 0:45:36] Erik: Sure.
[0:45:36 – 0:45:39] Erik: But, I mean, you’d think that they would have maybe some more clear cut.
[0:45:39 – 0:45:41] Erik: I think it’s probably just they suggest pack it out, you know.
[0:45:42 – 0:45:43] Adam: Pack it all out.
[0:45:43 – 0:45:44] Adam: Pack everything out.
[0:45:45 – 0:45:45] Adam: Throw it in there.
[0:45:47 – 0:45:48] Adam: Take it with you.
[0:45:49 – 0:45:50] Adam: Go on and get.
[0:45:50 – 0:45:51] Erik: Go on and get.
[0:45:51 – 0:45:52] Erik: Front loaded.
[0:45:52 – 0:45:52] Erik: Sorry.
[0:45:52 – 0:45:56] Erik: Front underscore loaded underscore tasties.
[0:45:56 – 0:45:56] Erik: Ah.
[0:45:57 – 0:46:03] Erik: My background in wilderness tripping was mostly centered on western rivers until I moved to Minnesota.
[0:46:04 – 0:46:05] Erik: Let me be clear.
[0:46:05 – 0:46:09] Erik: The BWCA latrine is an uncommon luxury.
[0:46:10 – 0:46:16] Erik: Rafting trips out west require the use of a groover, a type of portable latrine.
[0:46:16 – 0:46:17] Erik: I’m writing that one down.
[0:46:17 – 0:46:19] Erik: For the groups number twos.
[0:46:21 – 0:46:21] Erik: grooving it.
[0:46:21 – 0:46:22] Erik: I’m a groover.
[0:46:22 – 0:46:29] Erik: If the trip is long enough, the group large enough, and the meals hearty enough, the single groover can get pushed to capacity.
[0:46:31 – 0:46:41] Erik: Imagine, if you will, having to hold your rod and tackle in your hand to avoid dipping them in your companion’s steaming post-breakfast pile.
[0:46:43 – 0:46:44] Erik: Okay, yeah.
[0:46:44 – 0:46:48] Erik: What’s more, imagine the eerie sensation of a turd that doesn’t drop.
[0:46:48 – 0:46:49] Erik: Rather, it hits the pile…
[0:46:50 – 0:46:53] Erik: Before pinch off, like soft serve to the cone.
[0:46:54 – 0:46:56] Erik: We are getting graphic here, ladies and gentlemen.
[0:46:57 – 0:47:02] Erik: Also, you can’t pee in the Groover for weight reasons, so good luck finding out the muscle control.
[0:47:03 – 0:47:06] Erik: Lastly, one of the rafts has to transport this damn thing.
[0:47:06 – 0:47:08] Adam: You’re bringing it with you from place to place?
[0:47:08 – 0:47:09] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:47:09 – 0:47:12] Adam: I was picturing the Groover as like cutting a groove in the ground.
[0:47:13 – 0:47:14] Adam: I think it’s an actual thing.
[0:47:14 – 0:47:17] Adam: And then you top groove it and then you move on.
[0:47:17 – 0:47:19] Adam: But no, you’re bringing the groove with you.
[0:47:21 – 0:47:23] Erik: This is a great last couple of sentences.
[0:47:23 – 0:47:30] Erik: There is something seriously unnerving about hitting a class four rapid knowing that there is a box of pure stank waiting to get upset.
[0:47:31 – 0:47:33] Erik: Rig to flip, my friends.
[0:47:34 – 0:47:43] Erik: I have nothing new to share in BWCA latrine usage other than discovering that a little bug spray on the cheeks and legs helps hold the skeeters at bay where you let the nature take its course.
[0:47:44 – 0:47:46] Erik: Beats a dig and squat any day.
[0:47:46 – 0:47:47] Adam: Yeah, all right.
[0:47:47 – 0:47:48] Adam: The groover.
[0:47:49 – 0:47:49] Adam: Yeah.
[0:47:50 – 0:47:53] Adam: Do they have like a locking lid then, I assume?
[0:47:54 – 0:47:57] Adam: In case you do flip in the Rapids?
[0:47:57 – 0:47:59] Erik: Rig to flip, my friend.
[0:47:59 – 0:48:00] Erik: Rig to flip.
[0:48:00 – 0:48:05] Adam: Do you think anybody has ever installed a Groover in a Min 2, Eric?
[0:48:05 – 0:48:07] Adam: Just a permanently installed groover.
[0:48:07 – 0:48:09] Adam: Why is this boat so heavy?
[0:48:12 – 0:48:13] Erik: The groover’s full.
[0:48:14 – 0:48:15] Adam: Oh, man.
[0:48:15 – 0:48:15] Adam: Eddie?
[0:48:16 – 0:48:16] Adam: Oh, my God.
[0:48:16 – 0:48:17] Adam: The groover’s full again.
[0:48:17 – 0:48:18] Adam: The groover’s full.
[0:48:19 – 0:48:21] Adam: Somebody’s got to empty this groover.
[0:48:24 – 0:48:24] Erik: Well, we’ll do some research.
[0:48:24 – 0:48:30] Adam: You’d have to do like a two-parter, like a groover up front and a groover in the back.
[0:48:30 – 0:48:33] Adam: So then you’ve got to keep the weight balance for the portage.
[0:48:34 – 0:48:34] Adam: Sure.
[0:48:34 – 0:48:34] Adam: Sure.
[0:48:35 – 0:48:37] Erik: Yeah, front groover, back groover.
[0:48:37 – 0:48:38] Adam: You just get your own groover.
[0:48:38 – 0:48:40] Adam: Yeah, you just cut the…
[0:48:40 – 0:48:40] Adam: Ultimate.
[0:48:41 – 0:48:43] Erik: Cut the webbing out of the seat.
[0:48:44 – 0:48:45] Adam: You got to get the bung out.
[0:48:45 – 0:48:46] Adam: Yeah.
[0:48:46 – 0:48:48] Adam: Cut a little hole in the groover.
[0:48:49 – 0:48:51] Erik: Yeah, you just fill the ballast.
[0:48:51 – 0:48:52] Erik: Your ballast becomes the groover.
[0:48:52 – 0:48:55] Adam: Oh, no.
[0:48:56 – 0:49:03] Adam: There’s an Edmund Fitzgerald parody song in this story of the Mintoo Groovers.
[0:49:04 – 0:49:16] Adam: It makes you a much more efficient icebreaker than… No amount of ice can stop us where our groovers were full and our determination was strong.
[0:49:16 – 0:49:19] Adam: Next up on the show, Eagle98MN, four points.
[0:49:20 – 0:49:22] Adam: I don’t really have any amazing insights.
[0:49:22 – 0:49:23] Adam: All right, moving on.
[0:49:23 – 0:49:24] Adam: No, I’m just kidding around.
[0:49:24 – 0:49:26] Erik: We’ll keep reading.
[0:49:26 – 0:49:28] Adam: Don’t lead with that, all right?
[0:49:28 – 0:49:29] Adam: You’re burying the lead.
[0:49:29 – 0:49:37] Adam: I just do my business each morning and get on with the day, but I am curious about the average lifespan of a BWCA latrine.
[0:49:37 – 0:49:41] Adam: How often does the U.S. Forest Service have to move them at popular sites?
[0:49:42 – 0:49:44] Adam: How do they dig them in the rocky terrain?
[0:49:45 – 0:49:53] Adam: These sites have been used for so many decades, I wonder about how many different thunderboxes have existed at some of them over the years.
[0:49:54 – 0:49:57] Adam: And then, what about the trail to reach them?
[0:49:57 – 0:50:02] Adam: Is that why some campsites have multiple trails heading back into the woods to seemingly nowhere?
[0:50:03 – 0:50:04] Adam: Old privies.
[0:50:05 – 0:50:10] Adam: Maybe I’m overestimating how quickly they fill up, but seeing a couple that were pretty full this year…
[0:50:11 – 0:50:17] Adam: It made me wonder what will happen next, and how long does it take for all that poop to decompose?
[0:50:18 – 0:50:22] Adam: Hashtag crap curiosity.
[0:50:22 – 0:50:23] Adam: That’s not how you hashtag, Eric.
[0:50:24 – 0:50:25] Adam: I’m crap curious.
[0:50:27 – 0:50:28] Adam: What did I say?
[0:50:28 – 0:50:29] Adam: Crap curiosity.
[0:50:30 – 0:50:30] Erik: It’s crap curious.
[0:50:31 – 0:50:33] Erik: No, it’s crap curiosity.
[0:50:33 – 0:50:35] Erik: But I also then just said crap curious.
[0:50:35 – 0:50:39] Adam: A lot of interesting questions asked here and raised.
[0:50:39 – 0:50:39] Adam: Yes.
[0:50:39 – 0:50:40] Adam: Raised.
[0:50:40 – 0:50:41] Adam: Answered?
[0:50:41 – 0:50:41] Adam: No.
[0:50:41 – 0:50:43] Adam: By far, no.
[0:50:43 – 0:50:44] Adam: Who are we to answer these?
[0:50:45 – 0:50:47] Adam: We do not know these kinds of mysteries.
[0:50:47 – 0:51:00] Erik: I think most of those questions just basically come down to how often a site is being used with, again, as an example, the Little Caribou site, which I know gets used almost on a nightly basis and knowing…
[0:51:01 – 0:51:25] Erik: that they have basically like i think the random trails that this uh user was referring to are probably more than likely just like wood hunting trails because any latrines that i’ve ever seen moved are not moved that far they’re just like they always kind of move them in a little orbit yeah they kind of orbit around the the own centrist uh you know the force yeah you know what i’m saying shania twain centrifugal
[0:51:27 – 0:51:29] Adam: It’s simply centrifugal.
[0:51:34 – 0:51:49] Erik: Yeah, and I think depending on how much rain is occurring, you would probably see a lot of that and how open the top of the lid is, which sometimes, like, what is the purpose of the lid, you know, to a certain extent?
[0:51:49 – 0:51:51] Adam: Is it scent control?
[0:51:51 – 0:51:54] Erik: Does it help it decompose and not get rained on?
[0:51:54 – 0:51:56] Erik: Does it help it not seep into the ground?
[0:51:56 – 0:51:58] Adam: Yeah, I think that’s probably part of it.
[0:51:58 – 0:52:00] Erik: Yeah, maybe there’s more science to the lids.
[0:52:01 – 0:52:03] Erik: Stop kicking those lids, Bobby.
[0:52:03 – 0:52:04] Erik: Keep those lids on.
[0:52:04 – 0:52:07] Erik: But there’s some that don’t even seem like they have ever had a lid.
[0:52:07 – 0:52:09] Adam: Got any treeing experts out there?
[0:52:09 – 0:52:15] Adam: Anybody ever been a part of a crew that transported a whole helicopter net full of treeings out in the park?
[0:52:16 – 0:52:17] Erik: A doctor in treeinology?
[0:52:18 – 0:52:19] Adam: Yeah, what’s the deal?
[0:52:19 – 0:52:21] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:52:21 – 0:52:22] Adam: Why are so many lids missing?
[0:52:23 – 0:52:25] Adam: What’s the point of the lids in the first place?
[0:52:25 – 0:52:25] Erik: Right.
[0:52:26 – 0:52:37] Erik: I mean, I get it sometimes when it’s like a self-contained system, like the actual outhouse that you’ll find at entry points and stuff, where it’s like, yeah, close the lid.
[0:52:37 – 0:52:45] Erik: It keeps flies and stuff from getting in, and it also helps the whole system stay relatively contained.
[0:52:45 – 0:52:46] Adam: Yeah, let the schnozzles breathe.
[0:52:47 – 0:52:53] Erik: It keeps that whole house, like that big cement box, from being absolutely horrible when you walk in there.
[0:52:54 – 0:52:57] Erik: That seems like a little bit more of like a septic kind of a system.
[0:52:58 – 0:53:04] Erik: But when it’s just going straight into the ground and it’s much shallower, like, I don’t know what the lid accomplishes.
[0:53:06 – 0:53:08] Erik: Tumblehomecast at gmail.com.
[0:53:09 – 0:53:10] Adam: Let us know.
[0:53:10 – 0:53:11] Erik: Let us know.
[0:53:12 – 0:53:12] Erik: Paddle.
[0:53:13 – 0:53:14] Erik: Hyphen faster.
[0:53:15 – 0:53:24] Erik: A group rule is that during the day when people are up and around in camp, the latrine bag is kept at the head of the trail so one can easily tell when the box is in use.
[0:53:24 – 0:53:26] Erik: That is exactly what I do.
[0:53:27 – 0:53:33] Erik: The little bag of like hand sanitizer and teepee is basically at the trail that goes up to the box.
[0:53:34 – 0:53:37] Erik: And if it’s missing, you know, it’s in use.
[0:53:37 – 0:53:39] Adam: You don’t build a little gate with your paddle, huh?
[0:53:39 – 0:53:40] Erik: No, no paddle.
[0:53:40 – 0:53:41] Erik: I don’t gate it.
[0:53:41 – 0:53:48] Erik: It’s like that is one of the easiest things to keep track of then, too, in the day-to-day of like, where’s this?
[0:53:48 – 0:53:49] Erik: Where’s that bag?
[0:53:49 – 0:53:52] Erik: Where’s this little piece of equipment?
[0:53:52 – 0:53:58] Erik: You always know where the teepee is because it’s right there at the trailhead going up to the Thunder Mug.
[0:53:58 – 0:53:59] Adam: Mount Brown.
[0:53:59 – 0:54:00] Adam: Mount Brown.
[0:54:00 – 0:54:01] Adam: Going up to the Thunder Mug.
[0:54:01 – 0:54:02] Adam: Give it a kick, Eric.
[0:54:03 – 0:54:03] Erik: Boot it.
[0:54:04 – 0:54:13] Adam: I thought the whole point was that you slam the lid or give it a good kick at the end, and that lets the next person know, all right, your turn’s up.
[0:54:14 – 0:54:14] Erik: My turn’s up.
[0:54:14 – 0:54:15] Adam: She’s all yours.
[0:54:16 – 0:54:17] Erik: Well, there could be that, too.
[0:54:19 – 0:54:26] Erik: But it’s like, if you’re up there, before you have truly made a slamming of the lid noise, or if there’s not a lid.
[0:54:26 – 0:54:27] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:54:27 – 0:54:28] Adam: I’ve never been on a trip where you’re like,
[0:54:29 – 0:54:31] Adam: With so many people that it’s like, well, I don’t know, maybe.
[0:54:31 – 0:54:32] Adam: There’s a line.
[0:54:32 – 0:54:33] Adam: I don’t know if somebody’s up there or not.
[0:54:33 – 0:54:34] Adam: I’m going to go check it.
[0:54:34 – 0:54:34] Adam: Oh, no.
[0:54:36 – 0:54:37] Adam: Oh, I peeked on the peeker.
[0:54:38 – 0:54:39] Adam: Peekers get peeked.
[0:54:39 – 0:54:40] Adam: I caught you peeking.
[0:54:40 – 0:54:41] Adam: I seencha.
[0:54:41 – 0:54:44] Erik: I just walked up and you were just staring.
[0:54:44 – 0:54:46] Erik: Just staring directly into the hole.
[0:54:47 – 0:54:47] Erik: That’s vile.
[0:54:48 – 0:54:50] Erik: Hey, hey, hey.
[0:54:50 – 0:54:50] Erik: Peaking’s one thing.
[0:54:50 – 0:54:52] Erik: You were just staring, dude.
[0:54:52 – 0:54:52] Adam: Staring in there.
[0:54:52 – 0:54:55] Adam: Look at all the secrets to life.
[0:54:56 – 0:54:56] Erik: And you had a stick.
[0:54:56 – 0:54:58] Erik: You were poking around, sifting through it.
[0:54:58 – 0:55:00] Erik: What were those words you were saying?
[0:55:00 – 0:55:02] Erik: I’m never camping with you ever again.
[0:55:05 – 0:55:08] Adam: Were you speaking parcel tongue into the brown mountain?
[0:55:09 – 0:55:10] Adam: Are we up next here?
[0:55:10 – 0:55:11] Adam: What are we doing here?
[0:55:11 – 0:55:15] Adam: Is this the true comment here?
[0:55:16 – 0:55:16] Erik: Yes.
[0:55:16 – 0:55:17] Erik: Trust me.
[0:55:17 – 0:55:18] Erik: You’re always set up, my friend.
[0:55:19 – 0:55:20] Adam: You’re a professional scroller.
[0:55:21 – 0:55:22] Adam: Next up on the show.
[0:55:23 – 0:55:24] Adam: Good friend of the show.
[0:55:24 – 0:55:25] Adam: Ghost of Ed Abbey.
[0:55:26 – 0:55:28] Adam: Comments on the previous thread.
[0:55:28 – 0:55:28] Adam: Another thing.
[0:55:30 – 0:55:35] Adam: Later at night, a couple hours after dusk or so, there’s almost no mosquitoes.
[0:55:35 – 0:55:42] Adam: If you can time it to visit the Thunderbox at that time, it’s one of the few mozziless times to do the business.
[0:55:43 – 0:55:43] Adam: Mozzie.
[0:55:43 – 0:55:48] Adam: Hmm, so you’re saying there’s less mozzies on the Brown Mountain in the night.
[0:55:49 – 0:55:50] Adam: Maybe we shouldn’t be scared of night poop.
[0:55:51 – 0:55:55] Erik: Yeah, I think like middle of the night, yeah, there’s not really too much bug activity.
[0:55:56 – 0:55:57] Erik: You should read another one.
[0:55:57 – 0:55:58] Adam: C’est la vie.
[0:55:58 – 0:55:59] Adam: C’est la vie.
[0:55:59 – 0:56:03] Adam: Next up on the show, The Shrewd Loon.
[0:56:03 – 0:56:04] Adam: Three points.
[0:56:06 – 0:56:08] Adam: Getting a little close to the microphone there, Eric.
[0:56:08 – 0:56:09] Erik: Am I?
[0:56:09 – 0:56:10] Adam: No, I was.
[0:56:10 – 0:56:10] Erik: Oh.
[0:56:12 – 0:56:14] Erik: I’m all wrapped up.
[0:56:14 – 0:56:15] Adam: What kind of knots?
[0:56:16 – 0:56:18] Adam: Have you entangled yourself in there, sir?
[0:56:20 – 0:56:21] Adam: He can’t hear us at all.
[0:56:21 – 0:56:24] Adam: He’s got his buds are all in the knot.
[0:56:25 – 0:56:28] Adam: Next up on the show, The Shrewd Loon.
[0:56:28 – 0:56:29] Adam: Three points.
[0:56:30 – 0:56:32] Adam: I just do my thang first thing in the morning and move on.
[0:56:33 – 0:56:42] Adam: Not unlike my in-town life, being an early riser and heavy coffee drinker is a benefit when it comes to keeping it regular.
[0:56:43 – 0:56:57] Adam: I do, however, feel sorry for people who go to the wilderness and wind up somewhat constipated due to a disturbance of circadian rhythms or eating habits, or just generally being grossed out by the thunderboxes.
[0:56:58 – 0:57:01] Adam: I went with a friend in August for a five-day trip.
[0:57:01 – 0:57:06] Adam: and the poor bastard literally didn’t drop one until the morning we packed out.
[0:57:06 – 0:57:10] Adam: I gotta believe that’s affecting one’s enjoyment of the whole trip.
[0:57:11 – 0:57:12] Adam: Sad face.
[0:57:12 – 0:57:19] Adam: Maybe carrying some kind of light laxative wouldn’t be a bad idea for the uninitiated.
[0:57:19 – 0:57:21] Erik: That’s a good idea.
[0:57:21 – 0:57:21] Adam: Maybe.
[0:57:21 – 0:57:22] Adam: Put it in the med kit.
[0:57:23 – 0:57:24] Erik: Yeah, I don’t know.
[0:57:24 – 0:57:31] Erik: I would have to believe for myself personally, it’s more due to the change in, like,
[0:57:32 – 0:57:36] Erik: Just the drastic change in, I don’t know, circadian rhythms?
[0:57:36 – 0:57:38] Adam: In exertion and diet, I would think.
[0:57:38 – 0:57:39] Adam: Yeah, it’s more of a…
[0:57:39 – 0:57:40] Adam: It’s a mix of the, like…
[0:57:40 – 0:57:44] Adam: It’s a diet and it’s a… Metabolism has kind of been spiked, I think.
[0:57:45 – 0:57:48] Erik: Yeah, it’s definitely not a, like, fear of going to the latrine.
[0:57:48 – 0:57:53] Adam: Yeah, I’ve never once, I love pooping and I’ve never once feared a poop, but it’s happened to me.
[0:57:53 – 0:57:55] Erik: Where it just, yeah, like especially those longer ones.
[0:57:55 – 0:57:55] Adam: I don’t need to poop.
[0:57:56 – 0:57:57] Adam: It’s not that I don’t want to poop.
[0:57:57 – 0:57:57] Adam: It’s just that.
[0:57:57 – 0:57:58] Adam: It’s not there.
[0:57:58 – 0:57:59] Adam: There’s no poop.
[0:57:59 – 0:57:59] Adam: Not there.
[0:58:00 – 0:58:01] Adam: It’s just.
[0:58:01 – 0:58:02] Adam: But I’ve been on some guided.
[0:58:03 – 0:58:03] Adam: Ring, ring.
[0:58:04 – 0:58:05] Adam: Just keep drinking.
[0:58:05 – 0:58:05] Erik: No answer.
[0:58:06 – 0:58:07] Erik: Nobody’s picking this one up.
[0:58:07 – 0:58:25] Erik: I’ve been on some guided trips though With especially like younger I texted too No response I’m just being left on read By my own butt No it was read and then you saw the three dots come up And then it just disappeared And then it never came back What?
[0:58:26 – 0:58:35] Erik: But like especially like Teen boys are like super weird About it where like they’ll just They’re just pooping In their sleeping bags probably
[0:58:36 – 0:58:58] Erik: the outfitter will take care of this but then all of a sudden it will just like middle of like a conversation just like swiftly walking towards the latrine all of a sudden out of nowhere because it is like if you’ve never been out like first of all just never like been camping there’s that and then it’s the whole aspect of like
[0:59:00 – 0:59:04] Erik: You know, that time of your life where you’re, like, super awkward about everything.
[0:59:04 – 0:59:05] Erik: And then it’s, what?
[0:59:05 – 0:59:07] Erik: It’s just, like, a thing in the ground?
[0:59:09 – 0:59:09] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:59:09 – 0:59:10] Erik: Like, I can’t.
[0:59:10 – 0:59:11] Erik: I’ll hold it.
[0:59:11 – 0:59:12] Erik: I’ll hold it.
[0:59:12 – 0:59:17] Erik: And then, like, four days of holding it, and it’s just, like, can’t hold it any longer.
[0:59:18 – 0:59:19] Adam: Gross.
[0:59:19 – 0:59:21] Erik: And then, yeah, you just can’t hold it any longer.
[0:59:21 – 0:59:24] Adam: You would know a brown-capped warbler if it sat on your knee.
[0:59:25 – 0:59:27] Erik: Oh, I’d love for a brown-capped warbler to sit on my knee.
[0:59:27 – 0:59:27] Erik: Kyler.
[0:59:29 – 0:59:32] Erik: Kyler, Tyler, Skyler, Jacob Backer.
[0:59:32 – 0:59:34] Adam: Hey, welcome back.
[0:59:34 – 0:59:35] Adam: Where you been?
[0:59:35 – 0:59:38] Adam: I feel like it’s been a piece since we heard from Jacob.
[0:59:38 – 0:59:38] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:59:39 – 0:59:41] Erik: He’s out there maintaining our roads.
[0:59:42 – 0:59:43] Adam: Oh, thank you.
[0:59:43 – 0:59:44] Adam: That’s what you’re still doing?
[0:59:44 – 0:59:45] Adam: Yeah, you got to do it.
[0:59:45 – 0:59:50] Erik: Only a small tip here, but I think this makes things easy slash more organized.
[0:59:50 – 0:59:56] Erik: We keep the TP roll in an old butter container that happens to fit it like a glove.
[0:59:57 – 0:59:59] Erik: Keeps it from getting crushed and wet.
[0:59:59 – 1:00:06] Erik: Keep a small roll of dog dropping bag stored inside the void in the middle of the TP roll.
[1:00:06 – 1:00:11] Erik: If you take the TP container, then you always have your doggy bags to pack out your used tissue.
[1:00:13 – 1:00:15] Erik: Oh, you’re packing out the used tissue even.
[1:00:15 – 1:00:16] Erik: Wow.
[1:00:16 – 1:00:20] Erik: Does a good job of keeping everything out of the dirt while on the throne too.
[1:00:21 – 1:00:26] Erik: When you get back to camp, just throw the used tissue bag in with the rest of the trash.
[1:00:26 – 1:00:27] Adam: Oh, I see.
[1:00:28 – 1:00:28] Adam: Yeah, I mean.
[1:00:28 – 1:00:31] Adam: That way you don’t let the next person know what you’ve been up to.
[1:00:32 – 1:00:33] Adam: Don’t let the peekers peek.
[1:00:33 – 1:00:34] Erik: Yeah, you can’t, well.
[1:00:35 – 1:00:38] Adam: That’s stealth pooping technology right there, Jacob.
[1:00:38 – 1:00:46] Erik: Things can still be gleaned from peeking without the actual teepee.
[1:00:47 – 1:00:49] Erik: If anything, you might have a better view of the context.
[1:00:49 – 1:00:49] Adam: Yeah.
[1:00:56 – 1:01:01] Adam: Next up on the show, friend of the show, good friend of the show, Aldi1.
[1:01:02 – 1:01:05] Adam: I prefer digging a hole versus using the pit toilet.
[1:01:05 – 1:01:09] Adam: Better poo posture and you get to pick your throne.
[1:01:10 – 1:01:17] Adam: Whenever I travel, my routine toilet time gets all thrown off and I may only need to go once a trip.
[1:01:19 – 1:01:19] Adam: What?
[1:01:19 – 1:01:19] Adam: Ha ha!
[1:01:39 – 1:01:40] Erik: What is this elf?
[1:01:41 – 1:01:42] Adam: Healer elf system.
[1:01:43 – 1:01:46] Adam: A small shed where the poo is stored.
[1:01:46 – 1:01:51] Adam: By separating the liquids from the solids, it will lengthen the time between emptying the shed.
[1:01:52 – 1:01:52] Adam: Evidently.
[1:01:53 – 1:01:53] Erik: Evidently.
[1:01:53 – 1:01:57] Adam: Maybe this is used in rock areas where you cannot dig a hole.
[1:01:58 – 1:02:00] Adam: Best pit toilet view I’ve ever had.
[1:02:00 – 1:02:08] Adam: The morning I used it, I saw grizzlies coming down towards our camp, and it literally scared the crap out of me, causing me to use it immediately.
[1:02:09 – 1:02:16] Adam: Link below includes photos of the pit toilet, a diagram I found online of how it works, and a pic of Mama and her cub.
[1:02:17 – 1:02:19] Adam: It seems like a legit link, Eric.
[1:02:20 – 1:02:21] Adam: I think we should click it.
[1:02:21 – 1:02:21] Adam: He’s clicked it.
[1:02:22 – 1:02:22] Adam: Oh, yes.
[1:02:22 – 1:02:24] Adam: Oh, there’s a grizz.
[1:02:24 – 1:02:26] Adam: Oh, my God, there is a shed.
[1:02:30 – 1:02:36] Adam: It’s a train with a conveyor belt in the train.
[1:02:38 – 1:02:39] Adam: Holy moly, Eric.
[1:02:40 – 1:02:41] Adam: Yeah, I wish…
[1:02:42 – 1:02:46] Erik: If this was a YouTube video, the picture of this episode would be this diagram.
[1:02:50 – 1:02:52] Adam: It’s like a French diagram, too.
[1:02:52 – 1:02:55] Adam: Liquids in the solides.
[1:02:56 – 1:02:58] Erik: Oh, yeah, it is French.
[1:02:58 – 1:03:01] Erik: Fecal matter to simple sealed containment chamber.
[1:03:02 – 1:03:06] Erik: Invertebrates such as worms can speed decomposition.
[1:03:06 – 1:03:09] Erik: No bulking agent required.
[1:03:09 – 1:03:13] Adam: I didn’t realize that shed was an acronym for simple sealed containment chamber.
[1:03:14 – 1:03:14] Adam: I mean…
[1:03:15 – 1:03:17] Erik: Anytime you can save money on bulking agents.
[1:03:18 – 1:03:20] Adam: Yeah, you don’t want to burn your whole budget up.
[1:03:20 – 1:03:21] Adam: Look at that shed.
[1:03:22 – 1:03:22] Erik: Now we’re done.
[1:03:22 – 1:03:23] Erik: It’s just random.
[1:03:23 – 1:03:24] Adam: Anime and dogs.
[1:03:24 – 1:03:26] Adam: What kind of Instagram are you on, Eric?
[1:03:26 – 1:03:28] Adam: This is Imger.
[1:03:28 – 1:03:31] Erik: Oh, I see.
[1:03:32 – 1:03:33] Adam: I see what’s going on here.
[1:03:33 – 1:03:36] Erik: Wow, I love the conveyor belt.
[1:03:36 – 1:03:37] Erik: So it’s real.
[1:03:38 – 1:03:40] Erik: Are you convinced this is a real thing, or are we being pranked?
[1:03:41 – 1:03:49] Erik: So are you, as the dumper, is it up to you to actually pedal the conveyor belt?
[1:03:49 – 1:03:51] Erik: Because if it is, then I feel like it’s…
[1:03:51 – 1:03:52] Adam: This is a foot pump.
[1:03:52 – 1:04:01] Adam: So the foot pump, it also powers the pedal, the conveyor belt, and the bidet on one pump.
[1:04:02 – 1:04:05] Erik: I still feel like it’s entirely up to the user then, which could be like…
[1:04:05 – 1:04:08] Adam: So you could just sit there and not pump the pedals.
[1:04:08 – 1:04:08] Adam: Yeah.
[1:04:09 – 1:04:11] Adam: They just got like bike pedals on there.
[1:04:11 – 1:04:20] Adam: You’re pedaling and it’s like constantly just spraying nice water in the caboose and taking all your stuff up the snozzle chute.
[1:04:21 – 1:04:21] Erik: Oh, wow.
[1:04:21 – 1:04:23] Erik: The schnozzle schloot.
[1:04:23 – 1:04:28] Adam: Got both schnozzles going full blast, and the conveyor’s really running nice right now.
[1:04:28 – 1:04:31] Adam: The shed is receiving.
[1:04:32 – 1:04:32] Adam: Let me tell you.
[1:04:33 – 1:04:34] Adam: The shed’s full.
[1:04:34 – 1:04:36] Adam: The package has been delivered, Eric.
[1:04:37 – 1:04:40] Adam: And I climbed Alpe d’Huez in 13 minutes.
[1:04:41 – 1:04:42] Adam: My quads feel amazing.
[1:04:43 – 1:04:44] Erik: Port side paddler.
[1:04:46 – 1:04:46] Erik: What side’s port?
[1:04:49 – 1:04:49] Adam: What’s the other one?
[1:04:50 – 1:04:51] Adam: The sun that faces the sun.
[1:04:51 – 1:04:52] Adam: What’s the opposite of port?
[1:04:53 – 1:04:53] Adam: Starboard.
[1:04:54 – 1:04:55] Adam: Yeah.
[1:04:56 – 1:04:56] Adam: Starboard.
[1:04:56 – 1:04:57] Adam: I think port is left.
[1:04:58 – 1:04:58] Erik: Okay.
[1:04:59 – 1:04:59] Adam: That’s my guess.
[1:05:00 – 1:05:01] Erik: Left side paddler.
[1:05:02 – 1:05:05] Erik: When you forget the teepee, but didn’t really forget the teepee.
[1:05:05 – 1:05:07] Adam: Dot, dot, dot.
[1:05:07 – 1:05:09] Erik: On a recent two-nighter to South slash North Lakes.
[1:05:11 – 1:05:11] Erik: period.
[1:05:12 – 1:05:15] Erik: My buddy and I were shaking down the gear the night before pushing off.
[1:05:16 – 1:05:22] Erik: Somehow, while fumbling and repacking in the dark, the ziplock of TP was overlooked.
[1:05:23 – 1:05:27] Erik: Oh well, back to nature, back to roots, and back to searching for the biggest leaves you can find.
[1:05:28 – 1:05:29] Erik: I don’t think that will ever happen again.
[1:05:31 – 1:05:38] Erik: Yeah, the one nice thing about especially the eastern section of the Bajau waters, not really any poison ivy.
[1:05:39 – 1:05:41] Adam: You can use any leaf.
[1:05:41 – 1:05:43] Adam: Big moose maples.
[1:05:43 – 1:05:45] Adam: Pine cones work great.
[1:05:45 – 1:05:55] Erik: Pine cones against the grain if you’re really looking to get in there and make one of those old projects where you’d smear the peanut butter on with the seeds for the squirrels.
[1:05:55 – 1:05:56] Adam: Got to groove it.
[1:05:57 – 1:05:57] Adam: You know what I’m saying?
[1:05:57 – 1:05:58] Adam: Yeah.
[1:05:58 – 1:05:59] Erik: Yeah, the butt comb.
[1:05:59 – 1:06:02] Erik: That’s, I think, the other name of pine cones in the woods.
[1:06:04 – 1:06:06] Adam: Colin Hawkins next on the show.
[1:06:07 – 1:06:14] Adam: Two years in China and India, including bumpy train rides, has my squat game on point.
[1:06:15 – 1:06:17] Adam: Squat game is on point.
[1:06:18 – 1:06:20] Adam: Next up, printing, printing.
[1:06:21 – 1:06:22] Erik: Hi, Printing Printing.
[1:06:22 – 1:06:24] Adam: Friend of the show.
[1:06:24 – 1:06:24] Adam: Friend of the show.
[1:06:25 – 1:06:28] Adam: Well, always late to the question of the week.
[1:06:29 – 1:06:30] Adam: Listen to the episode.
[1:06:30 – 1:06:34] Adam: I am also a looker of the pile.
[1:06:36 – 1:06:37] Erik: Looker of the pile.
[1:06:37 – 1:06:38] Erik: All the way to my heart.
[1:06:39 – 1:06:40] Adam: Printing, printing.
[1:06:40 – 1:06:43] Adam: Get excited when there is almost nothing in there.
[1:06:44 – 1:06:45] Erik: Let me just start over.
[1:06:48 – 1:06:48] Adam: All right.
[1:06:48 – 1:06:49] Adam: No interruptions.
[1:06:51 – 1:06:53] Adam: Well, always late to the question of the week.
[1:06:53 – 1:06:54] Adam: Listen to the episode.
[1:06:55 – 1:06:57] Adam: I am also a looker of the pile.
[1:06:57 – 1:07:00] Adam: Get excited when there is almost nothing in there.
[1:07:01 – 1:07:05] Adam: Did find a nice pair of shorts in a latrine on Sawbill.
[1:07:05 – 1:07:05] Erik: Oh, boy.
[1:07:07 – 1:07:07] Adam: Racks.
[1:07:07 – 1:07:09] Adam: Where they weren’t ruined.
[1:07:10 – 1:07:14] Adam: I would figure any shorts you would find in a latrine would be absolutely defiled.
[1:07:15 – 1:07:16] Erik: Fish them out of there.
[1:07:16 – 1:07:17] Adam: Fish them.
[1:07:17 – 1:07:18] Adam: Let’s get a look at those.
[1:07:18 – 1:07:20] Adam: They look like nice umbros.
[1:07:21 – 1:07:22] Erik: You remember umbros?
[1:07:22 – 1:07:23] Erik: Hell yeah, I remember umbros.
[1:07:23 – 1:07:26] Adam: With that headband you’re rocking and your flow you got and the swagger.
[1:07:26 – 1:07:31] Adam: I look like you probably left defensive back wearing umbros.
[1:07:31 – 1:07:33] Erik: I’m wearing a pair of them under my jeans right now.
[1:07:34 – 1:07:35] Erik: D-0-H-K. Do-kay?
[1:07:39 – 1:07:39] Erik: Maybe.
[1:07:40 – 1:07:42] Erik: Here is a seldom mentioned nugget of advice.
[1:07:43 – 1:07:50] Erik: When winter camping and planning on using the box at a nearby camp, dig it up prior to needing it to use it.
[1:07:51 – 1:07:53] Erik: As the snowpack increases, the distance from…
[1:07:54 – 1:08:19] Erik: to throne increases as well i’ve had a few long drops to the box with knees at almost eye level not ideal but maybe ideal if you’re looking for that proper the posture proper pressure yeah there’s a come some comments below yeah about the uh potty squatty this camp squatty potty coglins brand
[1:08:20 – 1:08:25] Adam: My favorite is to just curl up in a ball on the ground while crying and then poop.
[1:08:26 – 1:08:28] Adam: Yeah, I mean… Hugging knees to chest.
[1:08:28 – 1:08:32] Erik: Coming out of the top of your body and out of the back and bottom at the same time.
[1:08:34 – 1:08:37] Erik: As many excretions that can occur at the same time.
[1:08:37 – 1:08:39] Adam: An emotional response as well.
[1:08:40 – 1:08:43] Adam: Next up on Tumble Home, a Boundary Waters podcast…
[1:08:45 – 1:08:48] Adam: The Polish streaker is up next.
[1:08:49 – 1:08:49] Adam: One point.
[1:08:50 – 1:08:54] Adam: Do all latrines begin their duties with their business end covered up?
[1:08:54 – 1:08:59] Adam: The first latrine with a lid I ever ran across was at the bocce ball site on Pine.
[1:09:00 – 1:09:00] Adam: We all know the site.
[1:09:01 – 1:09:05] Adam: And it felt like we found something really special because of the lid.
[1:09:06 – 1:09:15] Adam: Like you said, I think at first I thought maybe 5%, but there may be more lids out there than we’re actually letting on.
[1:09:17 – 1:09:17] Erik: Yeah, maybe.
[1:09:17 – 1:09:18] Erik: I don’t know.
[1:09:18 – 1:09:20] Erik: I still go 25% based on my experience.
[1:09:20 – 1:09:21] Adam: Yeah.
[1:09:22 – 1:09:23] Adam: I don’t know where the lids went.
[1:09:24 – 1:09:26] Adam: How many lids were there even to start?
[1:09:26 – 1:09:31] Adam: I reckon there’s probably a bunch of those volcanoes out there never, never had a lid.
[1:09:31 – 1:09:34] Erik: Yeah, probably some old ones never been lidded.
[1:09:34 – 1:09:35] UNKNOWN: Yeah.
[1:09:35 – 1:09:38] Erik: Those are the wild stallions of the park.
[1:09:38 – 1:09:39] Erik: And be yelled.
[1:09:39 – 1:09:40] Erik: Colin Hawkins.
[1:09:40 – 1:09:43] Erik: Two years in China and India, including bumpy train rides.
[1:09:43 – 1:09:44] Adam: No, I already had this one.
[1:09:44 – 1:09:46] Erik: Has my squat game on point.
[1:09:46 – 1:09:48] Erik: Latrines are a luxury.
[1:09:48 – 1:09:49] Erik: Next up.
[1:09:49 – 1:09:50] Erik: Colin Hawkins.
[1:09:50 – 1:09:52] Erik: Two years in China and India, including bumpy train rides.
[1:09:52 – 1:09:54] Erik: Has my squat game on point.
[1:09:54 – 1:09:55] Erik: Latrines are a luxury.
[1:09:56 – 1:10:02] Erik: Up next on the show, Colin Hawkins, two years in China and India, including bumpy train rides, has my squat game on point.
[1:10:02 – 1:10:03] Erik: Latrines are a luxury.
[1:10:03 – 1:10:07] Erik: Is this like a Darjeeling limited scenario?
[1:10:07 – 1:10:08] Erik: What’s going on?
[1:10:10 – 1:10:11] Adam: Is this an inception?
[1:10:11 – 1:10:12] Erik: Are we being incepted?
[1:10:12 – 1:10:13] Erik: I don’t know.
[1:10:13 – 1:10:18] Erik: I think maybe going forward, people post your responses five, six times.
[1:10:18 – 1:10:20] Erik: Colin Hawkins, you’re on probation.
[1:10:20 – 1:10:22] Erik: You better watch your ass.
[1:10:24 – 1:10:27] Erik: Maybe try a campaday next time you’re on a train ride.
[1:10:29 – 1:10:30] Adam: Hot dish.
[1:10:31 – 1:10:32] Adam: Is that right?
[1:10:33 – 1:10:33] Adam: I think that’s right.
[1:10:34 – 1:10:34] Erik: Yeah, sure.
[1:10:34 – 1:10:35] Adam: Hot dish.
[1:10:37 – 1:10:37] Adam: One point.
[1:10:38 – 1:10:46] Adam: My opinion of the latrine situation is that the U.S. Forest Service may not get everything right, but they have the latrine situation right.
[1:10:47 – 1:10:53] Adam: When the latrine is tucked away in the woods, it helps keep the campsite clear of litter and keeps the wilderness wild.
[1:10:54 – 1:11:02] Adam: The worst latrine I’ve done business with wasn’t in the BWCA, but on Ham Lake and a campsite straight north of the entry point for Cross Bay Lake.
[1:11:03 – 1:11:10] Adam: The entire trail to the latrine was underwater, and the latrine itself was on a small high spot in a bog.
[1:11:11 – 1:11:18] Adam: The best latrine I’ve done business with is any one of them that I have had the pleasure of sharing my morning movement with.
[1:11:19 – 1:11:22] Adam: Everything is right in the world after a morning movement.
[1:11:23 – 1:11:26] Adam: I usually travel with a smaller group, so we don’t have an issue with privacy.
[1:11:27 – 1:11:31] Adam: If the Ziploc TP is gone, then the latrine is in use.
[1:11:33 – 1:11:33] Erik: Got it.
[1:11:34 – 1:11:38] Adam: In regard to personal hygiene, if it’s cold out, I will embrace the crust.
[1:11:39 – 1:11:45] Adam: However, my preference is to hang the gravity filter in a tree and use it as a shower after about four to five days.
[1:11:46 – 1:11:47] Adam: P.S.
[1:11:47 – 1:11:53] Adam: I also look in the latrines to get a general idea of campsite traffic.
[1:11:53 – 1:11:54] Adam: This is the way.
[1:11:55 – 1:11:58] Erik: And health of participants on your trip.
[1:11:59 – 1:12:01] Adam: Got to do a little diagnostics.
[1:12:02 – 1:12:03] Adam: How’s Bobby doing?
[1:12:04 – 1:12:05] Adam: Bobby.
[1:12:05 – 1:12:06] Adam: It’s not looking good.
[1:12:06 – 1:12:07] Adam: It’s not looking good for Bobby.
[1:12:07 – 1:12:09] Adam: I guarantee you something’s wrong with that boy.
[1:12:10 – 1:12:12] Erik: Everybody knows there’s something wrong with Bobby.
[1:12:14 – 1:12:16] Adam: The whole looky-loos.
[1:12:17 – 1:12:19] Adam: So I think we’re all in agreement that everybody looks.
[1:12:20 – 1:12:27] Erik: Yeah, I think so, but I think I’ve also gotten some responses on the latrine chat from last week.
[1:12:28 – 1:12:29] Erik: Oh, did you now?
[1:12:29 – 1:12:37] Erik: Most people say that they are peakers, but there’s a couple of, like, Eagle 98MN, avoid direct eye contact.
[1:12:37 – 1:12:39] Erik: Just a sideways glance to make sure it’s not too full.
[1:12:40 – 1:12:41] Adam: You’re fooling yourself.
[1:12:42 – 1:12:42] Adam: Yeah.
[1:12:42 – 1:12:43] Adam: Just look.
[1:12:43 – 1:12:43] Erik: Yeah.
[1:12:44 – 1:12:45] Erik: Just look.
[1:12:46 – 1:12:47] Erik: Yeah, I mean, it’s not like…
[1:12:50 – 1:13:11] Erik: a direct like lock eyes with it but it is sort of like a as you open the lid you kind of like glaze over it with your eyes here’s a new question for episode two of this series everybody admit everybody knows in their heart that they are looking whether it be a glance or if you’re just really giving it the old stare down
[1:13:13 – 1:13:13] Adam: But do you smell it?
[1:13:14 – 1:13:15] Adam: No.
[1:13:15 – 1:13:17] Adam: Do you give it a whiff to diagnose?
[1:13:17 – 1:13:22] Adam: You’ve talked about it as a diagnostic tool for the health of the campsite, Eric, and your fellow campers.
[1:13:23 – 1:13:24] Adam: Would you give it a good sniff?
[1:13:25 – 1:13:25] Erik: No, never.
[1:13:26 – 1:13:27] Erik: I would never.
[1:13:27 – 1:13:29] Erik: That’s the worst part about the whole experience.
[1:13:29 – 1:13:31] Adam: I would never ever give it a good sniff.
[1:13:31 – 1:13:32] Adam: You’re a wild man.
[1:13:32 – 1:13:33] Adam: That was the correct answer.
[1:13:33 – 1:13:34] Adam: I was just testing you to make sure.
[1:13:35 – 1:13:37] Erik: What, that this podcast could continue?
[1:13:37 – 1:13:39] Erik: Anybody out there on the Reddit?
[1:13:39 – 1:13:40] Erik: Anybody doing the sniff?
[1:13:40 – 1:13:42] Erik: I get down on my hands and knees.
[1:13:42 – 1:13:43] Erik: Give it a good sniff.
[1:13:43 – 1:13:48] Adam: Has anybody out there ever just stuck their head down the brown volcano?
[1:13:49 – 1:13:52] Erik: Has anybody ever had to throw up in the volcano?
[1:13:53 – 1:13:54] Erik: Or they just go off into the woods?
[1:13:54 – 1:13:55] Erik: Never.
[1:13:55 – 1:13:57] Erik: Are you nuts?
[1:13:58 – 1:14:03] Adam: I’m 98% joking around here, but I bet there is somebody that has just…
[1:14:03 – 1:14:06] Adam: Instead of looking, they give it a sniff, though, just to make sure it’s safe.
[1:14:08 – 1:14:08] Erik: Yeah.
[1:14:08 – 1:14:11] Erik: This is the last one we’re going to read from any of the…
[1:14:11 – 1:14:14] Adam: What other kind of senses could you get off of it?
[1:14:16 – 1:14:22] Erik: I kick it and then I knock it with my finger as I’m holding my ear up to it to gain resonance.
[1:14:22 – 1:14:23] Adam: Yeah.
[1:14:24 – 1:14:25] Adam: Is there anybody in there?
[1:14:25 – 1:14:27] Adam: Hello?
[1:14:27 – 1:14:27] Adam: Mr.
[1:14:27 – 1:14:28] Adam: Mouse?
[1:14:28 – 1:14:30] Adam: You vile, vile mouse.
[1:14:30 – 1:14:31] Adam: Come out.
[1:14:31 – 1:14:35] Erik: This last comment is from Michael slash Dykel.
[1:14:36 – 1:14:38] Erik: I am a brown volcano peeker.
[1:14:39 – 1:14:41] Erik: This is the most interesting reason for…
[1:14:41 – 1:14:42] Adam: I thought we were done.
[1:14:42 – 1:14:43] Adam: There’s more.
[1:14:43 – 1:14:44] Erik: There’s one more.
[1:14:44 – 1:14:45] Erik: Oh, this is great.
[1:14:48 – 1:15:14] Erik: you’re right it’s so it goes so against why you would ever look in it it sounds like michael dykel is looking in afterwards i am a brown volcano peeker i want to know if i’m self-diagnosing i want to know if i am delivering the color and coil of a proper deuce so you’re going nothing wrong with that and then looking no not necessarily but like i mean that’s
[1:15:15 – 1:15:17] Erik: That’s for like toilet time in the house.
[1:15:18 – 1:15:19] Erik: Yeah.
[1:15:19 – 1:15:21] Erik: I look and then I go and then I ignore.
[1:15:22 – 1:15:23] Erik: Look.
[1:15:23 – 1:15:23] Adam: Can’t you tell?
[1:15:24 – 1:15:24] Erik: Go.
[1:15:25 – 1:15:25] Adam: Ignore.
[1:15:26 – 1:15:31] Adam: Can’t you tell as an adult if things are going okay without having to look?
[1:15:32 – 1:15:32] Erik: Yes.
[1:15:32 – 1:15:32] Erik: After?
[1:15:33 – 1:15:33] Erik: Yeah.
[1:15:33 – 1:15:39] Erik: And you’re not like doing any like health checkups in the Bodgewaters.
[1:15:39 – 1:15:43] Erik: Like, yeah, every once in a while you should probably look at what’s in there at home.
[1:15:44 – 1:15:44] Erik: But like…
[1:15:45 – 1:15:48] Erik: Once it’s down there mixed in with everybody else’s.
[1:15:48 – 1:15:49] Adam: Yeah, who’s to say which is which?
[1:15:50 – 1:15:51] Erik: Can be kind of hard to tell sometimes.
[1:15:54 – 1:15:55] Adam: This would only apply in Quetico.
[1:15:55 – 1:15:56] Adam: Color and coil.
[1:15:56 – 1:16:01] Adam: In Quetico, you can assure the purity of your sample.
[1:16:02 – 1:16:07] Erik: I have a hard time with the term associated with deuce of the coil.
[1:16:08 – 1:16:10] Adam: I don’t like Deuce or Duke.
[1:16:10 – 1:16:13] Erik: I don’t mind Duke, actually.
[1:16:13 – 1:16:15] Adam: Duke is better than Deuce.
[1:16:15 – 1:16:17] Adam: Deuce is a little too close to bocce.
[1:16:17 – 1:16:19] Erik: I prefer Dookie, actually.
[1:16:19 – 1:16:20] Erik: Yeah, sure.
[1:16:20 – 1:16:21] Erik: I’m down with Dookie.
[1:16:21 – 1:16:22] Erik: Dookie’s good.
[1:16:23 – 1:16:23] Erik: All right.
[1:16:24 – 1:16:35] Erik: These are going to be some real standalone episodes that if this show ever becomes anything like more than it is that people in the future will point to.
[1:16:36 – 1:16:38] Erik: Well, I think we’re done.
[1:16:38 – 1:16:39] Erik: Do you have any other thoughts on?
[1:16:39 – 1:16:40] Erik: Oh, God.
[1:16:40 – 1:16:41] Erik: We went back to the diagram.
[1:16:42 – 1:17:01] Erik: the conveyor belt why’d you bring this picture back up eric just i gotta make sure that i don’t lose that link so i can make sure you screen grab that i’ll send you that picture you should just post that directly to we should just mob all of our social media with that picture snozzers and groovers no bulking agents required oh my god eric
[1:17:03 – 1:17:03] Adam: I don’t know.
[1:17:04 – 1:17:05] Adam: We got to get out of this episode.
[1:17:05 – 1:17:09] Adam: I really got to go take a Duke and in the night.
[1:17:10 – 1:17:11] Adam: KP index is high.
[1:17:11 – 1:17:13] Adam: I’ve got to go check.
[1:17:13 – 1:17:16] Adam: I got to make sure my snozzles are changed.
[1:17:16 – 1:17:18] Erik: I was going to see if you wanted to play a game.
[1:17:18 – 1:17:20] Erik: This might be the last time people hear from us for a while.
[1:17:21 – 1:17:22] Adam: All right, well, I’ll play a game.
[1:17:22 – 1:17:23] Adam: Can we take a break, though?
[1:17:23 – 1:17:24] Erik: Oh, sure.
[1:17:24 – 1:17:26] Adam: Yeah, I’ve really got to go check those nozzles.
[1:17:27 – 1:17:29] Adam: The KP Max of 4?
[1:17:29 – 1:17:31] Erik: If KP Max of 4, you’re kidding yourself.
[1:17:31 – 1:17:32] Erik: And a half moon?
[1:17:33 – 1:17:34] Erik: There’s nothing going on out there.
[1:17:34 – 1:17:37] Erik: It’s only a medium moon, and the KP index is going up.
[1:17:38 – 1:17:46] Erik: Yeah, we’re going to come back with a game that we’ve stolen from multiple other podcasts slash people who know what they’re doing.
[1:17:47 – 1:17:48] Erik: Stay tuned.
[1:17:49 – 1:17:56] Erik: Not to say that you won’t hear from us for a while, but probably not in this long form for a little while.
[1:18:00 – 1:18:03] Erik: Brought to you by Minnesota Gold.
[1:18:05 – 1:18:06] Erik: Third Street.
[1:18:07 – 1:18:10] Erik: So there’ll be some fun things still coming out.
[1:18:11 – 1:18:13] Erik: Some short stuff, some maybe kind of longer stuff.
[1:18:13 – 1:18:15] Erik: You never know what November’s going to bring.
[1:18:15 – 1:18:16] Erik: Surprise!
[1:18:16 – 1:18:17] Erik: Episode.
[1:18:17 – 1:18:17] Erik: Surprise.
[1:18:17 – 1:18:18] Erik: Like the ice fishing soon.
[1:18:18 – 1:18:19] Erik: Who knows?
[1:18:19 – 1:18:19] Erik: Yeah, surprise.
[1:18:20 – 1:18:20] Erik: No episode.
[1:18:23 – 1:18:29] Erik: For sure, more Tumble Home Cinema classics, most likely in the next few days, and then we’ll see what November brings.
[1:18:30 – 1:18:33] Erik: But to finish up this episode…
[1:18:34 – 1:18:36] Erik: If you want to leave, you can go ahead.
[1:18:36 – 1:18:36] Erik: Bye.
[1:18:37 – 1:18:43] Erik: But we’re going to do just a fun thing that I heard on another podcast that I think would be kind of fun.
[1:18:44 – 1:18:47] Erik: It could completely turn into a disaster.
[1:18:48 – 1:18:48] Erik: We’ll see.
[1:18:49 – 1:18:51] Erik: Are you aware of the game What Am I Thinking?
[1:18:53 – 1:18:54] Adam: Sure.
[1:18:54 – 1:18:54] Adam: Yes?
[1:18:55 – 1:18:59] Adam: I don’t think I am, but yes, I got the idea just from the name.
[1:18:59 – 1:19:03] Adam: You’re going to have me somehow guess what you’re thinking by giving me clues?
[1:19:04 – 1:19:08] Erik: No, so this is, well, let’s just quickly explain it.
[1:19:08 – 1:19:09] Adam: Okay, give it.
[1:19:10 – 1:19:15] Erik: So this is stolen from Puck Soup, which stole it from Comedy Bang Bang.
[1:19:15 – 1:19:17] Adam: I’ve listened to a lot of Puck Soup.
[1:19:17 – 1:19:19] Adam: I don’t think I’ve heard this somehow.
[1:19:19 – 1:19:20] Erik: Well, it was on the last episode.
[1:19:21 – 1:19:22] Adam: I haven’t made it to the end.
[1:19:22 – 1:19:23] Adam: Those episodes are really long.
[1:19:23 – 1:19:24] Erik: The end.
[1:19:25 – 1:19:26] Erik: The end of that podcast?
[1:19:27 – 1:19:29] Erik: Or just the end of… Just the end of that last episode.
[1:19:29 – 1:19:31] Erik: The last one is like two hours long.
[1:19:31 – 1:19:34] Erik: But anyway, the concept is we both say…
[1:19:36 – 1:19:39] Erik: A thing, at the same time, we go three, two, one, we both say a thing.
[1:19:40 – 1:19:51] Erik: And then based on what we say, we need to take those two things that we say and then say another thing, which would be the closest thing between those two things.
[1:19:51 – 1:19:51] Erik: Okay.
[1:19:52 – 1:19:56] Erik: I know that the Comedy Bang Bang way that they do it is just anything.
[1:19:56 – 1:19:57] Erik: It’s like anything in the world.
[1:19:57 – 1:19:58] Erik: They just start from scratch.
[1:19:58 – 1:20:01] Adam: Obviously, Puck Soup did hockey-based things.
[1:20:02 – 1:20:04] Erik: I think, clearly, we should do, like, Spongewater’s base.
[1:20:04 – 1:20:06] Erik: So you could say, like, a lake.
[1:20:06 – 1:20:08] Erik: You could say Portage.
[1:20:08 – 1:20:11] Erik: You could say Winona, Minnesota 2.
[1:20:11 – 1:20:11] Erik: Oh, man.
[1:20:12 – 1:20:14] Adam: So are you thinking of stuff right now?
[1:20:14 – 1:20:14] Adam: Because I am.
[1:20:15 – 1:20:16] Erik: I mean, I’m kind of thinking.
[1:20:16 – 1:20:17] Adam: I’m rubbing my head right now.
[1:20:17 – 1:20:18] Erik: What am I going to say?
[1:20:18 – 1:20:27] Erik: Well, so then based on what we say, then you need to say what might connect those two things.
[1:20:27 – 1:20:33] Erik: And then we go until we both, hopefully at the same time, we go three, two, one, say the same thing.
[1:20:33 – 1:20:33] Adam: Okay.
[1:20:34 – 1:20:34] Erik: All right?
[1:20:34 – 1:20:34] Erik: All right.
[1:20:35 – 1:20:35] Erik: Make sense?
[1:20:35 – 1:20:35] Erik: Yeah.
[1:20:36 – 1:20:41] Erik: And for you listening at home, it’s kind of fun because you can maybe think, these guys are idiots.
[1:20:41 – 1:20:43] Erik: Clearly, they should be saying this other thing.
[1:20:44 – 1:20:49] Erik: And I heard on Puck Soup, they got it in two at one point.
[1:20:49 – 1:20:55] Erik: But there was a couple of them that they did that took like 20 as well.
[1:20:55 – 1:20:58] Adam: I’ve got to say, I’m feeling a little bit of anxiety right now.
[1:20:58 – 1:20:59] Erik: Well, it’ll be fun.
[1:20:59 – 1:21:00] Erik: It’s, you know, it’s the… All right.
[1:21:01 – 1:21:02] Adam: Well, I know what I’m going to start with.
[1:21:02 – 1:21:02] Erik: Okay.
[1:21:03 – 1:21:06] Erik: Well, let me take a sip of beer and then we’ll do three, two, one.
[1:21:06 – 1:21:07] Adam: Okay.
[1:21:09 – 1:21:11] Erik: Camping, Bon Jovi is based.
[1:21:11 – 1:21:12] Erik: What am I thinking?
[1:21:14 – 1:21:14] Erik: All right.
[1:21:14 – 1:21:14] Erik: Ready?
[1:21:14 – 1:21:15] Erik: Yeah.
[1:21:15 – 1:21:17] Erik: Three, two, one.
[1:21:17 – 1:21:18] Erik: Cigarette.
[1:21:18 – 1:21:18] Adam: Northern Lights.
[1:21:21 – 1:21:21] Erik: Ooh.
[1:21:21 – 1:21:21] Erik: Ooh.
[1:21:23 – 1:21:24] Erik: I feel like we could…
[1:21:24 – 1:21:26] Erik: I bet you we could get it if we’re both on the same page here.
[1:21:27 – 1:21:27] Erik: All right.
[1:21:28 – 1:21:29] Erik: You said Northern Lights.
[1:21:29 – 1:21:30] Erik: I said Sigurd Olsson.
[1:21:30 – 1:21:31] Erik: Yeah.
[1:21:31 – 1:21:34] Erik: I’m going to go three, two, one.
[1:21:34 – 1:21:35] Erik: Keep looking up.
[1:21:35 – 1:21:36] Adam: What did you say?
[1:21:36 – 1:21:37] Adam: Tumble tourney.
[1:21:37 – 1:21:37] Adam: Oh, gosh.
[1:21:38 – 1:21:39] Adam: Well, that was pretty good.
[1:21:40 – 1:21:41] Adam: Tumble tourney and keep looking up.
[1:21:42 – 1:21:43] Adam: Well, now we have to go off of that?
[1:21:43 – 1:21:43] Adam: Yes.
[1:21:43 – 1:21:44] Erik: Not the original?
[1:21:44 – 1:21:44] Erik: No.
[1:21:44 – 1:21:45] Erik: You always move forward.
[1:21:45 – 1:21:46] Adam: Okay.
[1:21:46 – 1:21:47] Adam: Okay.
[1:21:48 – 1:22:13] Erik: three two one kp index remember kp index yes i think we’re way off track now yeah and i didn’t i didn’t have a chance to think of anything let’s just say fast yeah you’re kind of supposed to keep moving are you going fast oh boy so you said kp index let’s just also say that uh it it’s still tumble turning tumble turning and kp index okay
[1:22:14 – 1:22:16] Adam: Three, two, one.
[1:22:16 – 1:22:17] Adam: Dark Skies.
[1:22:18 – 1:22:19] Adam: Finley’s.
[1:22:20 – 1:22:22] Erik: See, now you just start circling each other like this.
[1:22:22 – 1:22:23] Erik: Yeah, we’re circling each other.
[1:22:23 – 1:22:24] Adam: Yeah.
[1:22:24 – 1:22:26] Adam: Three, two, one.
[1:22:26 – 1:22:27] Adam: The Boundary Waters.
[1:22:29 – 1:22:29] Erik: Berkland.
[1:22:29 – 1:22:30] Erik: Remember Berkland?
[1:22:30 – 1:22:31] Erik: Oh, yes.
[1:22:31 – 1:22:32] Erik: Shoot.
[1:22:32 – 1:22:33] Erik: The Boundary Waters and Berkland?
[1:22:35 – 1:22:37] Adam: He has nothing to do with it.
[1:22:38 – 1:22:42] Erik: No, he is a very tertiary character when it comes to the Boundary Waters.
[1:22:43 – 1:22:46] Adam: We’re running out of terms.
[1:22:46 – 1:22:48] Adam: You can’t reuse one that you’ve used.
[1:22:48 – 1:22:49] Erik: No, not at all.
[1:22:53 – 1:22:53] Adam: I don’t know.
[1:22:53 – 1:22:56] Adam: Can you just go completely tangent and try and get away from it?
[1:22:57 – 1:22:57] Adam: Sure.
[1:22:57 – 1:22:57] Adam: All right.
[1:22:57 – 1:22:58] Erik: Just completely.
[1:22:59 – 1:23:01] Adam: So Berkland and the Boundary Waters.
[1:23:01 – 1:23:04] Adam: We did everything we can do with keep looking up, right?
[1:23:04 – 1:23:04] Erik: It’s gone.
[1:23:04 – 1:23:05] Erik: Yeah.
[1:23:05 – 1:23:06] Erik: Anything’s up for grabs.
[1:23:07 – 1:23:08] Erik: Three, two, one.
[1:23:08 – 1:23:09] Adam: Brown Volcano.
[1:23:10 – 1:23:12] Erik: Brown Volcano and Wilderness.
[1:23:13 – 1:23:13] Erik: Okay.
[1:23:13 – 1:23:15] Adam: All right.
[1:23:17 – 1:23:17] Adam: We got it.
[1:23:17 – 1:23:18] Adam: I know what we’re going to do.
[1:23:19 – 1:23:19] Adam: You ready?
[1:23:20 – 1:23:20] Adam: No.
[1:23:20 – 1:23:21] Adam: All right.
[1:23:21 – 1:23:21] Adam: All right.
[1:23:23 – 1:23:23] Erik: Okay.
[1:23:24 – 1:23:26] Erik: Three, two, one.
[1:23:27 – 1:23:28] Adam: That counts.
[1:23:28 – 1:23:29] Adam: That counts.
[1:23:29 – 1:23:30] Adam: That’s pretty much it.
[1:23:30 – 1:23:31] Adam: Train chat’s over.
[1:23:32 – 1:23:32] Adam: Nailed it.
[1:23:34 – 1:23:37] Erik: Yeah, you don’t always have to get it exactly the same two words.
[1:23:37 – 1:23:40] Adam: We were saying the same things in different parlance of our times.
[1:23:40 – 1:23:45] Erik: Yeah, we only went one degree off of straight boundary waters.
[1:23:45 – 1:23:48] Adam: We were like within a meter of each other the whole time.
[1:23:49 – 1:23:49] Erik: Yeah.
[1:23:49 – 1:23:50] Erik: Yeah, that’s a fun game.
[1:23:51 – 1:23:51] Adam: Oh, that was fun.
[1:23:51 – 1:23:54] Adam: I guess I didn’t need to be anxious after all.
[1:23:54 – 1:23:55] Erik: No.
[1:23:55 – 1:23:58] Erik: It can really devolve into just never-ending games.
[1:24:00 – 1:24:07] Adam: Yeah, I mean, if we were really trying to exactly say the same thing at the same time, boy, it could have went on for hours.
[1:24:08 – 1:24:10] Erik: Yeah, we could still be here.
[1:24:11 – 1:24:11] Adam: We are.
[1:24:12 – 1:24:19] Erik: Maybe you just start a whole weekly Patreon series where we just play that game.
[1:24:19 – 1:24:22] Adam: Oh, boy.
[1:24:24 – 1:24:24] Erik: No, we’re not doing that.
[1:24:27 – 1:24:48] Adam: for episode 121 of tumble home a boundary waters con cod past my name is adam joining me here in studio oh this is some real freudian stuff going on here in studio k2 my name is adam joined here by my best friend eric and uh
[1:24:48 – 1:24:50] Adam: We’re having a lot of fun here.
[1:24:50 – 1:24:51] Adam: Talking trains.
[1:24:52 – 1:24:54] Erik: I mean, I just…
[1:24:54 – 1:24:58] Erik: I cannot get out of my head how amazing…
[1:25:00 – 1:25:09] Erik: that name for somebody who was in like commercial cod fishing, that would be the name of their podcast.
[1:25:09 – 1:25:10] Adam: Cod past.
[1:25:10 – 1:25:10] Adam: Yes.
[1:25:11 – 1:25:12] Adam: Cod past.
[1:25:12 – 1:25:16] Adam: Maybe we should get into cod fishing.
[1:25:16 – 1:25:19] Erik: Just so we can take copyrighted cod past.
[1:25:19 – 1:25:19] Erik: That’s ours.
[1:25:19 – 1:25:19] Erik: Yep.
[1:25:20 – 1:25:28] Adam: We’re going to take our foot pump treeing snazzles, go out on a big old boat with George Clooney.
[1:25:28 – 1:25:29] Adam: We’re going after cod.
[1:25:30 – 1:25:31] Erik: Are there any cod in Lake Superior?
[1:25:32 – 1:25:32] Adam: Yeah.
[1:25:33 – 1:25:35] Adam: Oh, there’s a lot of Lynn cod out there.
[1:25:35 – 1:25:36] Adam: Yeah, they’re running.
[1:25:36 – 1:25:37] Adam: Plenty of cod.
[1:25:37 – 1:25:38] Adam: Lynn cod.
[1:25:39 – 1:25:40] Erik: Northern cod.
[1:25:40 – 1:25:45] Erik: Welcome to Codpast, a commercial fishing podcast.
[1:25:45 – 1:25:48] Erik: Slippery black fin cod.
[1:25:48 – 1:25:54] Erik: This week we are joined by… George Clooney, captain of the boat.
[1:25:54 – 1:25:56] Adam: He’s never steered us wrong.
[1:25:56 – 1:25:57] Adam: Captain of the boat.
[1:25:57 – 1:25:59] Adam: He always gets the boat home.
[1:26:00 – 1:26:06] Adam: We’re confident that our next voyage out, we will come home with a livery full of cod.
[1:26:06 – 1:26:09] Adam: We’re also joined by Slippery Dan.
[1:26:09 – 1:26:13] Erik: He ties all the knots on the nets that capture up the cod.
[1:26:14 – 1:26:16] Erik: Slippery Dan, what do you think?
[1:26:16 – 1:26:21] Erik: This is episode one of Cod Past.
[1:26:24 – 1:26:25] Erik: All right.
[1:26:26 – 1:26:31] Adam: Who would have ever thought Slippery Dan… Slippery Dan is in the house.
[1:26:31 – 1:26:33] Erik: Slippery Dan and George…
[1:26:35 – 1:26:37] Erik: George Clooney in the same room.
[1:26:37 – 1:26:38] Erik: Could you ever have thought?
[1:26:38 – 1:26:44] Adam: All right, well, I’m going to have to make a nice tater tot hot dish for dinner tonight.
[1:26:44 – 1:26:45] Adam: You’re going to have to.
[1:26:45 – 1:26:47] Adam: Thanks to Slippery Dan’s beautiful knots.
[1:26:48 – 1:26:49] Adam: All right.
[1:26:50 – 1:26:51] Adam: That’s the end of this show.
[1:26:51 – 1:26:53] Erik: That’s it for Tumble Home.
[1:26:53 – 1:26:55] Erik: We’ll just see you in the flip side.
[1:26:55 – 1:26:57] Erik: All right, three, two, one.
[1:26:57 – 1:26:58] Adam: Slippery Dan.
[1:27:03 – 1:27:03] Adam: Oh, Christ.
