281: Pronto Puppie5

Episode Transcript

[0:00:02 – 0:00:29] SPEAKER_00: Put on your parka and take a ride with me We will go on a dog sled odyssey Leave your cares behind you and let your mind run free Let imagination take you on this trip with me
[0:00:33 – 0:00:36] SPEAKER_00: Going on a moonlight run with good sled dogs.
[0:00:36 – 0:00:41] Adam: Oh, welcome to Tumble Home, a Boundary Waters podcast.
[0:00:42 – 0:00:43] Adam: My name is Adam.
[0:00:43 – 0:00:49] Adam: Joining me here at Studio V with a view of the planetary alignment is my dear friend, Eric.
[0:00:49 – 0:00:50] Adam: Good evening.
[0:00:51 – 0:00:51] Adam: Good evening.
[0:00:52 – 0:00:53] Adam: They’re aligned.
[0:00:53 – 0:00:54] Adam: All of them.
[0:00:54 – 0:00:55] Adam: In a line.
[0:00:57 – 0:00:57] Adam: All seven of them.
[0:00:58 – 0:00:59] Adam: Which one’s missing?
[0:01:02 – 0:01:02] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:01:03 – 0:01:03] Erik: What do you mean?
[0:01:03 – 0:01:04] Adam: Uranus.
[0:01:04 – 0:01:05] Erik: All seven of them.
[0:01:05 – 0:01:06] Erik: There’s not another one.
[0:01:07 – 0:01:08] Erik: There’s eight planets.
[0:01:09 – 0:01:10] Erik: Well, we’re sitting on one of them, right?
[0:01:12 – 0:01:13] Erik: Oh, it all makes sense now.
[0:01:13 – 0:01:15] Erik: Did you set me up for that?
[0:01:15 – 0:01:17] Erik: Come on, buddy.
[0:01:17 – 0:01:21] Adam: You can’t really see Neptune and Mercury already below the horizon.
[0:01:23 – 0:01:27] Adam: And Uranus you can’t see unless you’ve got a big old telescope.
[0:01:27 – 0:01:28] Adam: So that one’s out too.
[0:01:28 – 0:01:30] Adam: So really it’s just the other four.
[0:01:31 – 0:01:32] Erik: Just the other four.
[0:01:33 – 0:01:34] Adam: You know, the good ones.
[0:01:34 – 0:01:36] Erik: Yeah, the main ones.
[0:01:36 – 0:01:37] Erik: The big ones.
[0:01:37 – 0:01:41] Adam: Plus Jupiter, and Jupiter’s got some big old moons, too.
[0:01:41 – 0:01:45] Adam: So if you had a big telescope, you could probably see them, too.
[0:01:45 – 0:01:46] Adam: Actually, they’re out.
[0:01:47 – 0:01:48] Adam: The stars are twinkling.
[0:01:49 – 0:01:50] Adam: Jupiter’s moons are out.
[0:01:50 – 0:01:52] Adam: Oh, Ganymede.
[0:01:52 – 0:01:53] Adam: Ganymede.
[0:01:53 – 0:01:53] Adam: Io.
[0:01:53 – 0:01:53] Adam: Io.
[0:01:53 – 0:01:54] Adam: Io?
[0:01:54 – 0:01:55] Adam: Mike Io?
[0:01:56 – 0:01:56] Adam: Io?
[0:02:00 – 0:02:04] Adam: Planetary alignment night here, and it’s the last day of February on Tumble Home.
[0:02:04 – 0:02:04] Erik: Thank God.
[0:02:05 – 0:02:09] Erik: We only got to survive four more hours, or we’re going to make it another whole year.
[0:02:09 – 0:02:10] Adam: We’re going to do it, Eric.
[0:02:11 – 0:02:16] Adam: Episode 281, and we’re talking Bear Grease Preview.
[0:02:17 – 0:02:20] Adam: Pronto is right around the corner, and it’s getting cold tonight.
[0:02:20 – 0:02:26] Adam: We just got some fresh snow, and it’s a pretty exciting week to be up north in the winter.
[0:02:26 – 0:02:27] Erik: Yeah, fresh snow.
[0:02:27 – 0:02:31] Erik: It’s the coldest night we’ve had in, it feels like a couple of weeks now.
[0:02:32 – 0:02:39] Erik: 12 degrees feels like actual cold, whereas two weeks ago I would have killed a man for 12 degrees.
[0:02:39 – 0:02:39] Erik: No doubt.
[0:02:40 – 0:02:42] Erik: But it does feel good.
[0:02:42 – 0:02:48] Erik: It’s like, you know, one of those things where we went about a week consistently losing snow.
[0:02:50 – 0:03:15] Erik: 35 40 degrees and sunny every day it’s too early though to be like all right here we go let’s uh lose some snow it’s like yeah it feels nice to get the warmth but on the other hand it’s like we’re like six weeks away from me being convinced that like spring is even close so like don’t go too long with all the uh snow melting we’re gonna get a bunch more snow in march
[0:03:15 – 0:03:20] Erik: Yeah, it’s still March is, you know, turns out 31 days long.
[0:03:21 – 0:03:28] Erik: Talking about this the other night, why don’t they add the day for leap year on a month that’s actually worth a damn?
[0:03:28 – 0:03:29] Erik: Why do they have to add it on to the worst?
[0:03:30 – 0:03:30] Erik: That’s another thing.
[0:03:30 – 0:03:35] Adam: We’re really grinding our gears and pouring salt into all our wounds.
[0:03:36 – 0:03:46] Erik: I feel like that could have been another segment, at least two more sentences in Kevin McNeely or whatever, the St. Louis reporter guy’s whole diatribe.
[0:03:46 – 0:03:49] Adam: He didn’t even get into leap year.
[0:03:49 – 0:03:49] Erik: Yeah.
[0:03:49 – 0:03:53] Erik: Why do they have to add the 29th day on to February?
[0:03:54 – 0:03:58] Erik: I guess it is the shortest month, but you could throw it on September, throw it on June.
[0:03:59 – 0:04:00] Erik: June’s only got 30 days.
[0:04:00 – 0:04:04] Erik: Let’s do a 31-day June every four years instead of a 29-day February.
[0:04:04 – 0:04:05] Erik: Wouldn’t be the same.
[0:04:07 – 0:04:09] Erik: What do you mean by that?
[0:04:10 – 0:04:13] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:04:14 – 0:04:15] Adam: Then June wouldn’t be as special.
[0:04:16 – 0:04:16] Adam: Yeah.
[0:04:16 – 0:04:17] Adam: Every once in a while you get extra.
[0:04:18 – 0:04:19] Erik: June’s so special.
[0:04:20 – 0:04:23] Adam: The years where it’s not a leap year, they’re like, thank goodness.
[0:04:23 – 0:04:24] Adam: Thank goodness.
[0:04:24 – 0:04:26] Adam: It’s only a 28-day February.
[0:04:26 – 0:04:26] Adam: Yeah.
[0:04:26 – 0:04:28] Erik: Well, it’s tomorrow.
[0:04:28 – 0:04:29] Adam: You’re thinking about it all wrong.
[0:04:30 – 0:04:32] Adam: Invert that thought and…
[0:04:33 – 0:04:36] Adam: Three out of four years, February is only 28 days.
[0:04:36 – 0:04:37] Adam: It’s only four weeks.
[0:04:38 – 0:04:42] Adam: We’re doing you all a favor most of the years by cutting February back.
[0:04:42 – 0:04:44] Erik: Whose decision was that?
[0:04:45 – 0:04:48] Adam: Thomas Jefferson, 1863.
[0:04:48 – 0:04:48] Adam: 1863.
[0:04:49 – 0:04:58] Erik: Yeah, you’re going to convince me that I should be excited about standing in the middle of the woods in the middle of the night.
[0:05:00 – 0:05:04] Erik: Not what we are used to, potentially.
[0:05:04 – 0:05:05] Adam: We’re not camping, that’s for sure.
[0:05:05 – 0:05:08] Erik: For our pronto pup lodge setup.
[0:05:08 – 0:05:13] Erik: Because of the change in where the actual race is starting.
[0:05:14 – 0:05:18] Erik: Which does lead me to believe it will be coming through much earlier in the night.
[0:05:18 – 0:05:27] Erik: But I am waiting for maybe some historical data that it sounds like you might have on potential where we usually set up crossings.
[0:05:27 – 0:05:27] Adam: Yeah.
[0:05:28 – 0:05:30] Adam: Otto Mann sent me some spreadsheets.
[0:05:30 – 0:05:30] Adam: Yeah.
[0:05:30 – 0:05:32] Adam: We’re going to look at some spreadsheets.
[0:05:32 – 0:05:33] Adam: We’ve got some spreadsheets.
[0:05:33 – 0:05:38] Adam: With the historic race timing from the last time the Bear Grease started at the pit.
[0:05:39 – 0:05:39] Adam: The pit.
[0:05:39 – 0:05:40] Adam: At the pit.
[0:05:40 – 0:05:41] Adam: That’s where it is this time again.
[0:05:41 – 0:05:43] Adam: What am I trying to convince you of exactly?
[0:05:43 – 0:05:51] Adam: That it’s a good idea to do the Pronto Pop Lodge for the fifth year in the last six.
[0:05:51 – 0:05:53] Erik: No, I’m not saying that you need to convince me to do it.
[0:05:53 – 0:05:56] Erik: You need to convince me that I should be…
[0:05:57 – 0:06:24] Erik: not necessarily excited but like i don’t know there’s something that uh about moving the entire like timing back potentially like five hours into the night yeah is like hard for my 40 year old body oh when i first heard that they changed the start but we’re gonna keep the start time the same and not change the required rest i was like having a full-on panic attack yeah
[0:06:24 – 0:06:29] Adam: Because it is going to push Pronto from a beautiful sunrise occasion into a middle-of-the-night gambit.
[0:06:29 – 0:06:29] Adam: Yeah.
[0:06:33 – 0:06:35] Adam: Yeah, right.
[0:06:35 – 0:06:43] Adam: And I definitely considered, like, maybe we should move the location to be into a more favorable timeframe.
[0:06:44 – 0:06:45] Erik: Sure, yeah.
[0:06:46 – 0:06:50] Adam: But then I went back and re-listened to all the old Pronto episodes.
[0:06:51 – 0:06:57] Adam: And, you know, in therein, we basically had already had this conversation and said that no matter what,
[0:06:59 – 0:07:04] Adam: It’s an institution, and it must be at mile 255.
[0:07:04 – 0:07:05] Adam: Yeah, no, I was…
[0:07:05 – 0:07:08] Adam: Otherwise, it doesn’t even make sense, and the whole thing is stupid.
[0:07:09 – 0:07:18] Adam: I don’t think, yeah, there was ever any point in my mind where changing locations… Oh, I was fully in on four or five hours the day they announced the change.
[0:07:18 – 0:07:19] Adam: I was like, let’s move it.
[0:07:20 – 0:07:22] Adam: Let’s move it over by Devil’s Track.
[0:07:22 – 0:07:23] Adam: We already talked about doing it, but…
[0:07:25 – 0:07:27] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:07:27 – 0:07:40] Adam: The more I think about it, too, it’s likely it’s going to be way earlier and that the winner will come into Grand Portage a lot earlier on Tuesday, and we’re going to have to adjust.
[0:07:42 – 0:08:09] Adam: that’s you know that’s part of dog sled races you know you never know how it’s going to go until the race starts and uh part of it is just that you end up being out in the woods at weird hours of the night with very little sleep on you and that’s kind of gets you in the right mindset for it even though it sounds like it’s not a great idea no i know i get what you’re saying and there’s there’s definitely a part of that that is kind of exciting
[0:08:09 – 0:08:17] Adam: You know, to get me in a better mindset to try and convince you of the joys of Pronto 5, I was opening this beer bag from Rare Fargo Beers.
[0:08:18 – 0:08:21] Adam: And a dear friend of the show, a pair of choppers.
[0:08:21 – 0:08:23] Adam: This is from this year.
[0:08:24 – 0:08:24] Adam: 25.
[0:08:24 – 0:08:24] Adam: 25.
[0:08:25 – 0:08:31] Adam: I had two options in the shelves, and I went with this one.
[0:08:32 – 0:08:41] Adam: But I wasn’t sure exactly when the other one had come in, so if you’re out there listening and you’re like, hey, I should have been next, you’re next, actually.
[0:08:41 – 0:08:41] Erik: Yeah.
[0:08:42 – 0:08:43] Adam: But not this week.
[0:08:43 – 0:08:46] Adam: This week it’s a pair of choppers from January.
[0:08:46 – 0:08:47] Adam: Got a note.
[0:08:48 – 0:08:50] Adam: Dear Adam and Eric, a haiku for you, all right?
[0:08:51 – 0:08:51] Adam: Here we go.
[0:08:52 – 0:08:54] Adam: Fargo Brew closed now.
[0:08:54 – 0:08:58] Adam: Tumble Home got the last batch in search of gravy.
[0:08:59 – 0:09:00] Adam: Nice.
[0:09:00 – 0:09:01] Adam: Did you get the gravy?
[0:09:02 – 0:09:04] Adam: Looking forward to 2025.
[0:09:04 – 0:09:05] Adam: Love the podcasting community.
[0:09:05 – 0:09:07] Adam: A pair of choppers.
[0:09:07 – 0:09:07] Adam: There we go.
[0:09:08 – 0:09:10] Erik: There’s a pair of choppers?
[0:09:10 – 0:09:11] Adam: And the government name.
[0:09:11 – 0:09:12] Adam: Bleep that out.
[0:09:13 – 0:09:15] Adam: Pillsbury Doughboy, that name, Eric.
[0:09:16 – 0:09:19] Adam: Thank you for the kind haiku.
[0:09:20 – 0:09:23] Adam: And we got apparently the last batch out of Fargo.
[0:09:23 – 0:09:26] Erik: Before they shuttered the whole brewery.
[0:09:26 – 0:09:28] Adam: We got a bunch of Fargo beers in here.
[0:09:28 – 0:09:29] Adam: Got some loosens.
[0:09:30 – 0:09:30] Adam: Loose ones.
[0:09:31 – 0:09:33] Adam: There’s quite a few beers in here.
[0:09:33 – 0:09:39] Adam: This has been, as Eric said earlier, it’s kind of cold out there, and I threw these on the porch when I got home from work.
[0:09:40 – 0:09:43] Adam: And so they might be reasonably cold, but we may want to…
[0:09:43 – 0:09:46] Adam: Pick a few and then throw the rest of them back out on the porch.
[0:09:46 – 0:09:49] Erik: I feel like they’re okay, but… We’ve done all right.
[0:09:49 – 0:09:55] Adam: It was 12 degrees when I drove over here, and I definitely could see Mars, Venus, and Jupiter.
[0:09:56 – 0:09:56] Erik: You taking that one?
[0:09:57 – 0:09:57] Adam: Maybe not Saturn.
[0:09:57 – 0:09:59] Adam: I’ll go with the Iron Horse Pale Ale.
[0:10:00 – 0:10:01] Erik: Okay.
[0:10:01 – 0:10:01] Adam: Iron Horse.
[0:10:02 – 0:10:04] Adam: That’s the other name they call a dog.
[0:10:06 – 0:10:06] Adam: Iron Horse.
[0:10:06 – 0:10:09] Erik: The Wood Chipper American IPA.
[0:10:09 – 0:10:10] Erik: I’m going to put the rest of these outside.
[0:10:10 – 0:10:11] Adam: You want the bag?
[0:10:11 – 0:10:11] Adam: Here you go.
[0:10:11 – 0:10:12] Adam: Sure.
[0:10:13 – 0:10:18] Adam: For safety and security, you can trust Fargo Brewing Company.
[0:10:18 – 0:10:21] Erik: Until they shut down.
[0:10:21 – 0:10:28] Adam: We got out of brews and we got into safes and gun safes.
[0:10:29 – 0:10:30] Adam: And vacuum cleaners.
[0:10:34 – 0:10:36] Adam: Mine pit slurry operations.
[0:10:36 – 0:10:37] Adam: No.
[0:10:37 – 0:10:39] Adam: I don’t know what Fargo Brewing Company, why’d they quit?
[0:10:40 – 0:10:46] Erik: I don’t know, because breweries, just in general, I feel like, you know, it was a bubble waiting.
[0:10:47 – 0:10:48] Adam: Oh, cripes.
[0:10:49 – 0:10:49] Adam: It’s all good.
[0:10:49 – 0:10:51] Erik: Eh, it’s not too bad.
[0:10:51 – 0:10:52] Erik: It’s all good.
[0:10:52 – 0:10:53] Adam: Cheers.
[0:10:58 – 0:10:59] Adam: There we go.
[0:11:00 – 0:11:00] Erik: Ugh.
[0:11:02 – 0:11:02] Erik: You all right?
[0:11:04 – 0:11:04] Erik: Too foamy.
[0:11:04 – 0:11:05] Erik: Not cold enough.
[0:11:06 – 0:11:06] Erik: All right.
[0:11:10 – 0:11:11] Erik: Can’t give it a proper rating right now.
[0:11:12 – 0:11:13] Erik: The artwork I like, though.
[0:11:13 – 0:11:14] Adam: I do.
[0:11:14 – 0:11:14] Adam: I like it.
[0:11:14 – 0:11:15] Adam: It’s simple.
[0:11:15 – 0:11:16] Erik: Simple?
[0:11:16 – 0:11:18] Erik: Just a man holding… What is that?
[0:11:18 – 0:11:18] Erik: Wheat?
[0:11:22 – 0:11:24] Adam: That’s the fruits of the loom.
[0:11:25 – 0:11:26] Erik: Fruits of the loom.
[0:11:26 – 0:11:28] Erik: The North Dakotan loom.
[0:11:28 – 0:11:30] Erik: Yeah.
[0:11:30 – 0:11:31] Erik: Yeah.
[0:11:32 – 0:11:33] Erik: Closing in?
[0:11:33 – 0:11:34] Adam: In Saturn.
[0:11:34 – 0:11:35] Adam: You can also see Saturn.
[0:11:35 – 0:11:36] Erik: Okay.
[0:11:36 – 0:11:37] Adam: The moon’s down, though.
[0:11:38 – 0:11:38] Erik: Yeah?
[0:11:39 – 0:11:40] Adam: Goodbye, moon.
[0:11:40 – 0:11:41] Erik: It’s a new moon.
[0:11:41 – 0:11:43] Adam: Goodbye, loon.
[0:11:43 – 0:11:47] Erik: New moons are great times to make resolutions for change.
[0:11:48 – 0:11:53] Erik: If anybody’s out there needing that in their lives, it’s a good time to do it.
[0:11:54 – 0:11:55] Adam: And it’s March tomorrow.
[0:11:56 – 0:11:57] Erik: And it’s March tomorrow.
[0:11:58 – 0:11:59] Adam: Have you ever seen a bear grease in March?
[0:11:59 – 0:12:00] Erik: Lousy smarch.
[0:12:01 – 0:12:02] Erik: Um…
[0:12:02 – 0:12:04] Erik: I don’t think I have.
[0:12:04 – 0:12:15] Erik: I don’t know if I can remember my white wilderness dog sled adventure days when I was a handler and a dog sled guide there.
[0:12:15 – 0:12:21] Erik: I don’t think any of the sled dog races I was involved with then got pushed back into March.
[0:12:22 – 0:12:23] Erik: I don’t think so.
[0:12:23 – 0:12:23] Erik: No.
[0:12:25 – 0:12:26] Erik: I do not think so.
[0:12:26 – 0:12:27] Erik: It’s odd.
[0:12:27 – 0:12:28] Erik: It’s going to be weird, yeah.
[0:12:28 – 0:12:31] Adam: Also, the Can-Am starts this weekend.
[0:12:33 – 0:12:34] Adam: The Copper Dog?
[0:12:36 – 0:12:38] Adam: The Copper Dog is also this weekend.
[0:12:38 – 0:12:40] Erik: Is that in the UP or Wisconsin?
[0:12:40 – 0:12:43] Adam: It’s in the UP at Ashland.
[0:12:45 – 0:12:45] Adam: And UP?
[0:12:45 – 0:12:46] Adam: I’m not sure.
[0:12:46 – 0:12:46] Erik: Combo?
[0:12:47 – 0:12:49] Erik: Can-Am except Wisconsin-Michigan?
[0:12:50 – 0:12:50] Erik: Maybe.
[0:12:51 – 0:12:53] Erik: What would the combination of those two states be?
[0:12:54 – 0:12:55] Adam: Maine and Ottawa?
[0:12:57 – 0:12:57] Erik: Oh, no.
[0:12:58 – 0:13:00] Erik: You know, Can and Canadian-American.
[0:13:01 – 0:13:01] Erik: Oh, I see what you’re saying.
[0:13:01 – 0:13:05] Erik: The combination of Michigan and Wisconsin would be.
[0:13:05 – 0:13:06] Adam: Right.
[0:13:07 – 0:13:09] Erik: Why-can?
[0:13:10 – 0:13:10] Adam: We-me.
[0:13:11 – 0:13:12] Erik: We-me.
[0:13:12 – 0:13:13] Erik: Yeah.
[0:13:13 – 0:13:13] Erik: Yeah.
[0:13:15 – 0:13:16] Adam: Henry Chosa was the Michigan champ.
[0:13:17 – 0:13:19] Adam: He cut a lot of men down in the lumber camp.
[0:13:20 – 0:13:22] Erik: God, I forgot about Henry Chosa.
[0:13:22 – 0:13:27] Adam: He’ll knock you down like a tall white pine if you do not toe the line, Eric.
[0:13:27 – 0:13:29] Erik: I can’t wait to learn all about Henry Chosa again next week.
[0:13:31 – 0:13:32] Adam: Claire Defoe as well.
[0:13:32 – 0:13:36] Adam: We’re going to learn all about Claire Defoe when we get down with Wemo.
[0:13:38 – 0:13:39] Erik: No, it’s we-me.
[0:13:39 – 0:13:40] Erik: It’s we-me.
[0:13:41 – 0:13:42] Adam: Copper Dog’s going.
[0:13:42 – 0:13:47] Adam: And then also the Iditarod ceremonial start is Saturday.
[0:13:47 – 0:13:51] Adam: And I believe the actual restart in Fairbanks, they’re moving their start as well.
[0:13:52 – 0:13:55] Adam: And that is on Monday.
[0:13:56 – 0:14:01] Adam: So in the middle of the Bear Grease, there’s also going to be the Iditarod start going on.
[0:14:01 – 0:14:12] Erik: There’s something about the flexibility and the adjustments that the dog sled races almost inevitably every year have to account for.
[0:14:12 – 0:14:14] Erik: Yeah, route changes.
[0:14:14 – 0:14:16] Erik: That’s kind of… Start changes.
[0:14:17 – 0:14:19] Erik: Commendable for a sport like that.
[0:14:19 – 0:14:20] Adam: You got to be flexible.
[0:14:20 – 0:14:21] Erik: You just got to be flexible.
[0:14:21 – 0:14:26] Erik: There’s not too many other sports that you can even really point to like anything close to that.
[0:14:26 – 0:14:29] Adam: We’ll run the Kentucky Derby when the sod is soft.
[0:14:30 – 0:14:30] Erik: Yeah.
[0:14:31 – 0:14:31] Erik: No.
[0:14:31 – 0:14:32] Erik: Whatever.
[0:14:32 – 0:14:33] Erik: It’s just going to happen today.
[0:14:33 – 0:14:33] Erik: Yeah.
[0:14:33 – 0:14:33] Erik: Doesn’t matter.
[0:14:34 – 0:14:34] Erik: This is the date.
[0:14:35 – 0:14:37] Erik: The rights have been sold.
[0:14:37 – 0:14:39] Erik: All of the hats have been purchased.
[0:14:40 – 0:14:44] Erik: The most garish hats, they’ve all been sold.
[0:14:44 – 0:14:49] Erik: They’re down there in the center oval getting pink faced and hammered.
[0:14:49 – 0:14:52] Erik: We can’t reschedule the race because the ground’s a little wet.
[0:14:52 – 0:14:53] Erik: Yeah.
[0:14:54 – 0:14:54] Erik: Run them.
[0:14:54 – 0:14:55] Erik: Dog sled race, though.
[0:14:56 – 0:14:57] Erik: There’s literally nothing.
[0:14:57 – 0:14:58] Erik: Not a whole lot you can do about it.
[0:14:58 – 0:15:00] Erik: Be like if the dirt disappeared.
[0:15:01 – 0:15:07] Erik: Well, we’re just going to have to wait until we get more dirt in here to run this horse race.
[0:15:08 – 0:15:09] Erik: So, yeah, I don’t know.
[0:15:09 – 0:15:14] Erik: There’s parts of me that get frustrated because it’s like it doesn’t feel quite the same.
[0:15:15 – 0:15:18] Adam: Yeah, and it’s coming off of a year with no bear grease, which was rough.
[0:15:20 – 0:15:21] Adam: That’s, yeah, even worse.
[0:15:21 – 0:15:23] Adam: That was rough.
[0:15:23 – 0:15:24] Erik: To not have it at all.
[0:15:24 – 0:15:28] Erik: But, like, I guess, you know, I would rather have something than nothing.
[0:15:29 – 0:15:31] Erik: And it’s cool that they are able to make adjustments.
[0:15:32 – 0:15:48] Erik: indeed and change start times and locations and like push it back like six weeks essentially is what they did so we’ll get into uh there’s not like a great weekend to real like relocate right there’s something every weekend
[0:15:49 – 0:16:14] Erik: you know last weekend was the wolf track oh yeah uh you know there’s not like a wide open weekend there’s only so many winter weekends where you can even consider holding a dog sled race well these days especially the wolf track used to be like the end of march and they finally were like this is crazy gotta move that too but like over half the time it would be like that’s raining yeah we can’t have the dog sled race so
[0:16:15 – 0:16:24] Adam: You know, there’s a lot going on, so we’re not going to have as big a field as we would like, and we’re not going to have the full route.
[0:16:25 – 0:16:27] Adam: No billies start this year.
[0:16:27 – 0:16:29] Adam: I don’t know what happened.
[0:16:29 – 0:16:34] Adam: Duluth had a lot of snow and just got too warm and too much asphalt, I guess.
[0:16:34 – 0:16:36] Erik: Yeah, Duluth had a decent amount of snow, but then…
[0:16:36 – 0:16:37] Adam: Yeah, I mean, it was too warm.
[0:16:38 – 0:16:39] Adam: For a week straight, it was like 50 degrees.
[0:16:39 – 0:16:42] Adam: I was just down there, though, and they had like a ton of snow still.
[0:16:42 – 0:16:43] Adam: I mean… Like, this is looking good.
[0:16:44 – 0:16:46] Adam: I was down there, and I was like, this looks nice.
[0:16:47 – 0:16:52] Erik: You were down there around the same time I was crossing through, but that was when we were like sub-Arctic, you know?
[0:16:52 – 0:16:52] Erik: It was very cold.
[0:16:53 – 0:16:56] Erik: We were down in the Twin Cities, and it was like, I think…
[0:16:58 – 0:17:00] Erik: The coldest that it had been down there.
[0:17:01 – 0:17:04] Erik: It was colder down in the cities than it was up here on the shore.
[0:17:04 – 0:17:04] Adam: Yeah.
[0:17:04 – 0:17:06] Erik: It was like 30 below down there.
[0:17:06 – 0:17:06] Erik: Yeah.
[0:17:06 – 0:17:07] Erik: A couple of nights.
[0:17:08 – 0:17:11] Erik: And they had a good pile of snow.
[0:17:12 – 0:17:19] Erik: But then, you know, cut to a week later and it’s, you know, 40 up here, 50 down there.
[0:17:19 – 0:17:20] Erik: The sun’s out.
[0:17:20 – 0:17:24] Erik: That’s going to disappear pretty quick with all that cement and concrete.
[0:17:24 – 0:17:25] Erik: And they didn’t really have…
[0:17:26 – 0:17:50] Adam: a ton of snow either really it’s true the base wasn’t that that crazy but i mean it’s basically just like the tip of the arrowhead right now it’s got like any semblance of like a decent snow pack i think that’s a good time to do uh tonight’s snow log update coming to you live from the snow globe here on the north shore on february 28th of this wretched month
[0:17:51 – 0:17:55] Erik: It’s the last time we’re going to have to say February for a long, long time.
[0:17:55 – 0:18:00] Adam: It was a beautiful morning, though, and we got four inches of fresh snow at the tumble shed.
[0:18:01 – 0:18:06] Adam: That brings our grand total for the winter to 60 inches, which is light.
[0:18:06 – 0:18:10] Adam: Like I said, I was listening back on all the old prontos and stuff,
[0:18:11 – 0:18:17] Adam: A couple of those years, it was in January, and we were pushing 70, 80 inches of snow already in January.
[0:18:18 – 0:18:22] Adam: Those were the years where you’re digging and digging at pronto, trying to get down.
[0:18:22 – 0:18:23] Erik: To put a stove in.
[0:18:23 – 0:18:24] Adam: Yeah.
[0:18:24 – 0:18:27] Adam: That’s how you end up with immense Davenports.
[0:18:27 – 0:18:27] Erik: Yeah.
[0:18:27 – 0:18:31] Erik: I don’t know if there’s going to be too many couches being made.
[0:18:32 – 0:18:34] Adam: The only way it’s going to happen, I was thinking about this today.
[0:18:34 – 0:18:35] Erik: You could bring a shovel maybe.
[0:18:36 – 0:18:37] Adam: Garden spade for one.
[0:18:37 – 0:18:42] Adam: We had that as an innovation in like year three, metal garden spades.
[0:18:42 – 0:18:51] Adam: But I think I’m considering going out there early and like assessing the location and like pre-DAV importing.
[0:18:51 – 0:18:54] Adam: Pre-piling so it gets nice and solid and then you carve out.
[0:18:55 – 0:19:07] Adam: Or just going out there on Sunday and just building it and then setting up the tiki torches and then stashing some firewood and then come back on Tuesday morning and you’re half set up.
[0:19:07 – 0:19:07] Erik: Sure.
[0:19:08 – 0:19:09] Adam: Not a bad idea.
[0:19:09 – 0:19:10] Adam: I think just piling up snow.
[0:19:11 – 0:19:12] Adam: Let it pack in.
[0:19:12 – 0:19:12] Erik: Sure.
[0:19:13 – 0:19:14] Adam: And then you carve out.
[0:19:14 – 0:19:16] Erik: You could make anything you wanted at that point.
[0:19:16 – 0:19:17] Erik: Cup holders.
[0:19:17 – 0:19:18] Erik: Cup holders.
[0:19:19 – 0:19:21] Adam: Yeah, so I don’t know.
[0:19:21 – 0:19:26] Adam: It might be worth a Sunday drive just to head up pre-pronto on Sunday.
[0:19:26 – 0:19:27] Adam: Scouting run.
[0:19:27 – 0:19:28] Adam: Yeah, I don’t know.
[0:19:28 – 0:19:29] Adam: Why not?
[0:19:29 – 0:19:32] Adam: I also woke up this morning because the start is at the pit.
[0:19:33 – 0:19:34] SPEAKER_02: The pit!
[0:19:35 – 0:19:38] Adam: We need a flamethrower sound effect in there.
[0:19:38 – 0:19:39] Adam: The pit!
[0:19:43 – 0:19:44] Erik: That’s pretty good, Trevor.
[0:19:44 – 0:19:44] Erik: Yeah, there it is.
[0:19:44 – 0:19:45] Adam: Pretty good on the fly.
[0:19:48 – 0:19:49] Adam: Because I’ve never seen a start at the pit.
[0:19:50 – 0:19:54] Adam: And also, I’ve just never been to the Highway 2 checkpoint or whatever.
[0:19:55 – 0:19:57] Erik: It’s the same spot as the checkpoint?
[0:19:57 – 0:19:59] Adam: That is my understanding.
[0:20:00 – 0:20:03] Adam: They’re just starting at the first checkpoint is now the start.
[0:20:04 – 0:20:09] Erik: Yeah, I always remember the two years that I handled for mushers.
[0:20:10 – 0:20:11] Erik: That checkpoint was always crazy.
[0:20:11 – 0:20:12] Erik: It’s the first checkpoint.
[0:20:13 – 0:20:15] Erik: Everybody’s there because it’s all the races.
[0:20:15 – 0:20:15] Erik: Right.
[0:20:15 – 0:20:18] Erik: Marathon, mid, the kids are there.
[0:20:18 – 0:20:20] Erik: It’s just like a zoo.
[0:20:20 – 0:20:22] Erik: But it’s so exciting.
[0:20:22 – 0:20:23] Erik: Everybody’s still jacked.
[0:20:23 – 0:20:25] Adam: Every year that guy with a camel shows up.
[0:20:25 – 0:20:27] Erik: Dogs are still going.
[0:20:27 – 0:20:29] Erik: How did you get in here with a camel?
[0:20:29 – 0:20:31] Erik: I don’t remember seeing anybody on a camel.
[0:20:31 – 0:20:32] Adam: You can get rides.
[0:20:33 – 0:20:33] Adam: Yeah.
[0:20:33 – 0:20:35] Adam: It is like a legit circus.
[0:20:36 – 0:20:43] Erik: No, I don’t remember that in terms of circus aspects, but just in terms of so many different…
[0:20:43 – 0:20:45] Erik: So that’s where the start is.
[0:20:45 – 0:20:48] Erik: Dog team setups, rigs, trucks, trailers.
[0:20:48 – 0:20:49] Erik: Everybody’s excited.
[0:20:49 – 0:20:51] Erik: It’s just kind of starting to get dark.
[0:20:52 – 0:21:06] Adam: Yeah, I don’t know if it’s going to be a good time, but I mean, it’s rare, so I was, and I got the day off, and so I don’t know, maybe I end up taking the boy and going down to the start, I don’t know.
[0:21:06 – 0:21:07] Erik: Sunday at what, 1?
[0:21:07 – 0:21:07] Erik: 11?
[0:21:08 – 0:21:08] Erik: Yeah, 11-ish.
[0:21:09 – 0:21:10] Erik: 11-ish.
[0:21:12 – 0:21:13] Adam: It’s Sunday.
[0:21:13 – 0:21:14] Adam: Yeah.
[0:21:14 – 0:21:20] Adam: You’re going to want to get there early to go around and ask all the mushers the name of their favorite dog.
[0:21:20 – 0:21:20] Adam: Yeah.
[0:21:21 – 0:21:22] Adam: Which one’s your favorite?
[0:21:22 – 0:21:24] Erik: But which one’s your favorite?
[0:21:25 – 0:21:26] Erik: I can’t say it.
[0:21:26 – 0:21:27] Erik: They’re all in front of me.
[0:21:28 – 0:21:29] Adam: They’re looking at me.
[0:21:29 – 0:21:29] Adam: Yeah.
[0:21:30 – 0:21:43] Adam: uh i don’t know it would be a novel experience for sure um but that’s a long drive down to two harbors just uh see the pit so i’m not sure yeah yeah can’t get any hollandaise as far as i know
[0:21:43 – 0:21:45] Erik: Yeah, you can’t check in on the real estate either there.
[0:21:45 – 0:21:46] Erik: It’s a real bummer.
[0:21:46 – 0:21:50] Erik: What are we supposed to do without the Billy’s Real Estate TV?
[0:21:52 – 0:21:52] Erik: It’s a bummer.
[0:21:53 – 0:21:53] Erik: For sure.
[0:21:54 – 0:21:54] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:21:54 – 0:21:55] Adam: I mean, but whatever.
[0:21:55 – 0:21:57] Adam: At least we got a race.
[0:21:58 – 0:21:59] Adam: Bear Grylls is on this Sunday.
[0:22:00 – 0:22:02] Adam: This podcast is coming out.
[0:22:02 – 0:22:05] Adam: So I guess today the Bear Grylls is starting probably as you’re listening to this.
[0:22:05 – 0:22:05] Erik: It’s happening.
[0:22:06 – 0:22:07] Adam: So check your tracker for one.
[0:22:08 – 0:22:09] Adam: Get in and check the tracker.
[0:22:11 – 0:22:14] Adam: Also, if you haven’t yet, go and try and sign up for Fantasy at Ditterod.
[0:22:15 – 0:22:16] Adam: There’s no Fantasy Bear Grease this year.
[0:22:17 – 0:22:22] Adam: Fantasy Mushing has given up on the Bear Grease, apparently.
[0:22:22 – 0:22:24] Adam: We’re not good enough.
[0:22:24 – 0:22:28] Adam: Even the Premier Race in the lower 48 is not good enough for Fantasy Mushing anymore.
[0:22:30 – 0:22:30] Adam: That’s okay.
[0:22:30 – 0:22:31] Adam: They still have fantasy.
[0:22:31 – 0:22:31] Adam: I did around.
[0:22:32 – 0:22:33] Adam: It’s going on at the same time.
[0:22:33 – 0:22:35] Adam: So spend your gold nuggets wisely.
[0:22:35 – 0:22:36] Adam: Join the tumble home pack.
[0:22:37 – 0:22:43] Adam: And since the race doesn’t actually start till Monday, I think you’re probably allowed to edit your team still on Sunday.
[0:22:44 – 0:22:46] Adam: So if you’re hearing this, go check it out.
[0:22:46 – 0:22:55] Adam: It’s always a lot of fun and read the musher bios and, you know, figure out how you’re going to most efficiently spend your gold nuggets.
[0:22:55 – 0:22:58] Adam: You have 21,000 gold nuggets to spend this year.
[0:22:58 – 0:23:04] Adam: It’s a light purse, both for the Bear Grease and for the fantasy mushing spend.
[0:23:05 – 0:23:09] Adam: There’s very few $5,000 or $5,000 nugget mushers this year.
[0:23:09 – 0:23:14] Adam: It’s all $2,000 mushers of unknown quantity and quality.
[0:23:15 – 0:23:16] Erik: That sounds interesting.
[0:23:16 – 0:23:18] Adam: Which makes it for an interesting race, so check it out.
[0:23:20 – 0:23:27] Adam: One of these years, one of us is going to finish first overall, and then you get flown out to Alaska to meet Danny Seavey.
[0:23:27 – 0:23:28] Erik: Is that the prize?
[0:23:30 – 0:23:31] Adam: It’s a punishment.
[0:23:32 – 0:23:32] Erik: Yeah.
[0:23:32 – 0:23:34] Adam: But it’s also a prize.
[0:23:34 – 0:23:34] Adam: Yeah.
[0:23:35 – 0:23:37] Erik: Is that the dad or one of the estranged brothers?
[0:23:37 – 0:23:39] Adam: That’s the brother with the computer skills.
[0:23:41 – 0:23:44] Adam: He also has a set of nunchucks.
[0:23:45 – 0:23:45] Erik: Wow.
[0:23:45 – 0:23:46] Adam: Yeah.
[0:23:46 – 0:23:49] Adam: Danny Seavey, if you’re listening, we know you’re a tumble homie.
[0:23:50 – 0:23:53] Adam: Shoot us an email at tumblehomecast.gmail.com.
[0:23:54 – 0:23:57] Adam: We want to, you know, we just want to chat.
[0:23:58 – 0:24:04] Adam: We have some ideas specifically on how to get back to the Bear Grease for Fantasy Mushing next year.
[0:24:06 – 0:24:07] Erik: We always have ideas.
[0:24:07 – 0:24:11] Erik: Do we want to just press on, continue with Bear Grease chat?
[0:24:12 – 0:24:17] Erik: Finish the show up with setting the table for… Yeah, let’s do it that way.
[0:24:17 – 0:24:25] Adam: One of the best ways to prepare for Fantasy 8 mushing is to read the musher bios, but also one of the best ways to prepare just for going to watch the Bear Grease.
[0:24:26 – 0:24:30] Adam: If you’re going to go out in any fashion, I highly recommend you go and read the musher bios.
[0:24:30 – 0:24:40] Erik: Those are always fun when they take any modicum of time to… That’s the funniest part, though, is a lot of times they don’t take any effort whatsoever.
[0:24:40 – 0:24:42] Adam: The pictures are insane.
[0:24:42 – 0:24:42] Adam: Yeah.
[0:24:43 – 0:24:54] Adam: And so we may appear to be making fun of the mushers, but we’re doing it from a place of love and respect because musher bios are just traditionally like ridiculous.
[0:24:54 – 0:24:55] Adam: Yes.
[0:24:56 – 0:25:03] Adam: Pick any race and they are allowed to like just submit whatever they want to say about themselves and pretty much a picture in any format.
[0:25:04 – 0:25:04] Erik: Yeah.
[0:25:04 – 0:25:15] Adam: The Iditarod’s the only one that tries to, like, standardize the photo, and, like, they have, like, a photo booth at the banquet or whatever, and they try and get, like, real pictures of everybody in the same, like, distance from the camera.
[0:25:15 – 0:25:15] Adam: Yeah.
[0:25:15 – 0:25:16] Adam: Whatever that’s called.
[0:25:16 – 0:25:18] Adam: The focal point is set.
[0:25:18 – 0:25:18] Adam: Yes.
[0:25:18 – 0:25:19] Adam: Yeah.
[0:25:19 – 0:25:25] Adam: You’re allowed to just, like, submit a picture of just your eyeball, like, super zoomed in, and they’ll just, like, put that on their website.
[0:25:25 – 0:25:27] Adam: Like, this is Jim from Iowa.
[0:25:28 – 0:25:30] Adam: He has a passion for dogs.
[0:25:30 – 0:25:32] Adam: This is what his retina looks like.
[0:25:34 – 0:25:39] Adam: Yeah, like musher bows on all race websites are just silly and a lot of fun.
[0:25:39 – 0:25:45] Adam: So we’re going to read through who’s actually in the marathon as of today, Friday night.
[0:25:45 – 0:25:50] Adam: It’s here at Tumble Home after dark, and we’re going to get into that for sure.
[0:25:51 – 0:26:00] Adam: I also have the musher’s required gear, which the Bear Grease is kindly provided for anybody that’s curious.
[0:26:00 – 0:26:03] Erik: Oh, they do provide the rules of the race?
[0:26:03 – 0:26:08] Adam: You can read all the rules if you want, but I did screen grab just the list of things the mushers must carry.
[0:26:08 – 0:26:10] Adam: How the game actually works.
[0:26:10 – 0:26:15] Adam: And, yeah, the first one to get to mile 303 wins at Grand Portage.
[0:26:15 – 0:26:16] Adam: That’s how it works.
[0:26:17 – 0:26:17] Adam: They win.
[0:26:17 – 0:26:18] Adam: I also have the purse.
[0:26:19 – 0:26:22] Erik: But isn’t it 273 this year?
[0:26:23 – 0:26:23] Adam: Oh, well, sure.
[0:26:24 – 0:26:26] Adam: We’re just going to say it starts at mile 38, though.
[0:26:26 – 0:26:26] Adam: Sure.
[0:26:26 – 0:26:28] Adam: Because I’m not changing the mileage of pronto.
[0:26:28 – 0:26:30] Adam: I’m not figuring that out.
[0:26:30 – 0:26:31] Adam: No, no, no.
[0:26:31 – 0:26:32] Adam: No way.
[0:26:32 – 0:26:34] Adam: It’s 255 miles in every year.
[0:26:35 – 0:26:35] Adam: Yeah.
[0:26:35 – 0:26:37] Adam: It doesn’t matter where you started.
[0:26:37 – 0:26:40] Adam: It matters where you are.
[0:26:41 – 0:26:41] Erik: Yeah.
[0:26:41 – 0:26:42] Erik: It’s all about where you’re at.
[0:26:43 – 0:26:46] Adam: You don’t know where you’re going if you also don’t know where you are.
[0:26:48 – 0:26:50] Adam: And wherever you go, there you are.
[0:26:52 – 0:26:53] Adam: Buckaroo Banzai.
[0:26:53 – 0:26:54] Erik: End of story.
[0:26:54 – 0:26:54] Adam: End of story.
[0:26:55 – 0:26:57] Adam: I got both those things for you.
[0:26:58 – 0:27:03] Adam: We’ll start with this piece of news that Otto Mann sent our way.
[0:27:03 – 0:27:03] Erik: Sure.
[0:27:04 – 0:27:08] Adam: And every year the Bear Grease has too much rest that’s required.
[0:27:09 – 0:27:34] Adam: 24 hours of rest for a 300-mile race is ludicrous and overbearing, but the reasoning behind having a lot of required rest is to ensure that the safety of the dogs is at an utmost premium and that you’re not having people pull a Hugh Neff and just run their dog team for 220 miles straight without a rest, and they come crawling into a checkpoint.
[0:27:34 – 0:27:35] Adam: It’s a bad look.
[0:27:35 – 0:27:35] Adam: All right?
[0:27:36 – 0:27:39] Adam: So you don’t want that, but nobody’s doing that these days.
[0:27:39 – 0:27:45] Adam: And also, even if you just required 18 hours of rest, that’s still a lot of rest, and almost everybody would take more.
[0:27:46 – 0:27:52] Adam: The problem is now they have 24 hours of rest, and literally every year the winner just has 24 hours of rest exactly, not one minute more.
[0:27:52 – 0:27:52] Adam: Yeah.
[0:27:52 – 0:28:00] Adam: Because you’re just literally sitting in checkpoints waiting to acquire your necessary rest before you can move on, which…
[0:28:00 – 0:28:21] Adam: is good um but you know you still have teams scratching even that being the case you still have to manage your team despite those rules um and yeah if you just have people kind of sitting around it doesn’t make it it takes away like strategic advantage of maybe you want to cut rest in the second to last checkpoint or the first checkpoint
[0:28:22 – 0:28:29] Adam: Or maybe you want to actually take some rest on the trail to throw your opponents off and play a little cat and mouse game out there.
[0:28:31 – 0:28:35] Adam: When you have that much rest, you’re just forcing everybody to just go checkpoint to checkpoint like it’s a stage race.
[0:28:36 – 0:28:40] Adam: And everybody just is kind of sitting in the checkpoint eating a cheeseburger waiting for the next run.
[0:28:40 – 0:29:04] Adam: sitting there with their team ready to go until the judge comes down to yeah now you’ve had four hours here and you can and they do have a couple saw bill for one and then mineral center for two where you do have a mandatory you have to do four hours and you can kind of split it up but i mean really as we’ve said for that amount of distance and the amount of checkpoints there are like you just basically are doing four hours average at every checkpoint for a normal route these days
[0:29:06 – 0:29:15] Adam: Anyways, because the route’s shortened by 38 miles and you’re taking away a whole checkpoint, apparently they did drop the required rest down to 21 hours.
[0:29:15 – 0:29:18] Adam: I just found this out like five minutes before I left to drive over here.
[0:29:18 – 0:29:19] Erik: Oh, so it’s only 21?
[0:29:19 – 0:29:21] Adam: So yeah, they took three out.
[0:29:21 – 0:29:22] Adam: So that does change the math a little.
[0:29:23 – 0:29:24] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:29:24 – 0:29:28] Erik: I feel like every year we have the same conversation, though.
[0:29:29 – 0:29:34] Erik: It’s usually with the derelict attorney who has his finger on the pulse of these things and…
[0:29:35 – 0:29:52] Erik: I feel like when I forget about it immediately every time the race is over, but then once I’m in it, I just, you know, when you look at it, you’re like, yeah, how could this race be like less interesting?
[0:29:53 – 0:29:56] Erik: And that’s like to make the rests the way that they make it.
[0:29:57 – 0:30:01] Erik: And that does make it pretty uninteresting, honestly.
[0:30:01 – 0:30:02] Erik: But like, whatever.
[0:30:03 – 0:30:03] Erik: It’s good.
[0:30:03 – 0:30:04] Erik: I mean, I’m not, I’m not like,
[0:30:04 – 0:30:09] Adam: Everybody just ends up learning the route and the rest and kind of just runs the same schedules.
[0:30:09 – 0:30:10] Adam: Look at any race.
[0:30:10 – 0:30:19] Erik: But it is like you said, it is like a stage stop where you do, everybody runs their legs from checkpoint to checkpoint, rest four hours, and then does it again.
[0:30:19 – 0:30:23] Erik: There’s no, nobody’s like, ooh, man, I’m going to put, I’m going to blow by a checkpoint.
[0:30:23 – 0:30:27] Adam: There is no advantage to blowing through a checkpoint or skipping a rest.
[0:30:27 – 0:30:35] Erik: It’s like I’m going to rest really long here and then run hard through these two checkpoints because I know my dogs are good at this terrain or whatever.
[0:30:35 – 0:30:36] Erik: That doesn’t really exist.
[0:30:36 – 0:30:37] Adam: Yeah.
[0:30:39 – 0:30:42] Adam: That’s just the way it’s set up and the way it always will be.
[0:30:42 – 0:30:45] Adam: But go look at the race flow for the Copper Basin.
[0:30:45 – 0:30:51] Adam: Everybody is basically just running kind of the same schedule there too because they all just learn the parameter.
[0:30:51 – 0:30:51] Adam: Yeah.
[0:30:52 – 0:30:55] Adam: Adjust your schedule accordingly and train for that schedule.
[0:30:55 – 0:31:00] Adam: The people running the Bear Grease are expecting it to… That’s the rules.
[0:31:00 – 0:31:08] Adam: That’s the general idea and what has been proven to be a good strategy to win and or just have a strong finish.
[0:31:10 – 0:31:11] Adam: That’s what people do.
[0:31:11 – 0:31:24] Adam: There’s no real incentive to push the envelope and try something different because there’s no reward for it and also what people are doing already just has proven to work in this terrain on this track.
[0:31:24 – 0:31:26] Erik: Right, which is sort of like, you know.
[0:31:26 – 0:31:27] Adam: It just makes the whole thing predictable.
[0:31:27 – 0:31:29] Erik: A little bit predictable.
[0:31:29 – 0:31:35] Erik: It would be more exciting if people did, you know, made, you know, moves more or less.
[0:31:35 – 0:31:38] Erik: I don’t know what you would call it, but, like, you know what I’m saying.
[0:31:38 – 0:31:45] Erik: Like, oh, he’s trying something, you know, to see somebody try something or she try something, like, different, out of the ordinary.
[0:31:46 – 0:31:49] Adam: The last time I can think of that was 16, 17, Jason Campu.
[0:31:52 – 0:32:07] Adam: Campow from the Yukon came down and ran it, and he took the minimum amount of rest at Sawbill and then went straight to Trail Center and then took a really long rest at Trail Center and then just ultimately scratched because he had burnt his team down.
[0:32:07 – 0:32:09] Adam: Trying to make a crazy move to Trail Center.
[0:32:09 – 0:32:09] Erik: Yeah.
[0:32:10 – 0:32:19] Adam: I remember I was working there at the time, and it would be like, oh, the first team usually gets here at X time on X day, at those days.
[0:32:20 – 0:32:23] Adam: And it was like eight, nine hours earlier than that.
[0:32:23 – 0:32:25] Adam: They’re like, this guy’s almost here.
[0:32:26 – 0:32:26] Erik: Yeah.
[0:32:26 – 0:32:29] Adam: He just skipped all the rest at the beginning that he could.
[0:32:30 – 0:32:31] Adam: and went straight to trail center.
[0:32:31 – 0:32:33] Adam: I was like, wow, that’s unheard of.
[0:32:33 – 0:32:36] Adam: Like, and it was like, well, he’s kind of a big name up, up there.
[0:32:37 – 0:32:39] Adam: Maybe he’s got something, but like, that’s the thing though.
[0:32:39 – 0:32:46] Adam: Like you still have to like, you then have to just sit at trail center for eight hours and then go do another eight hours at Skyport.
[0:32:46 – 0:32:46] Erik: Yeah.
[0:32:46 – 0:32:51] Adam: And meanwhile, everybody’s catching up and they didn’t run their dogs for 150 miles straight.
[0:32:51 – 0:32:51] Adam: Yeah.
[0:32:52 – 0:32:53] Adam: And so then they’re just faster at the end.
[0:32:53 – 0:32:57] Adam: Like actually ended up in, he didn’t even make it down to Skyport.
[0:32:58 – 0:33:00] Adam: If I recall, he just scratched at trail center.
[0:33:01 – 0:33:05] Adam: so weird you know it’s just that’s why you don’t see it though
[0:33:06 – 0:33:06] Erik: Right.
[0:33:06 – 0:33:10] Erik: There’s plenty of examples of people trying to do things that didn’t work out.
[0:33:10 – 0:33:11] Erik: There’s not that many.
[0:33:11 – 0:33:15] Adam: I’ve been watching this race a long time, and most people just play the regular game.
[0:33:17 – 0:33:21] Adam: But this is the year, I would think.
[0:33:21 – 0:33:25] Adam: And you have to factor in the weather a lot on those.
[0:33:25 – 0:33:30] Adam: And this year, it’s cold tonight, and then we did get some fresh snow.
[0:33:30 – 0:33:31] Adam: And then Sunday, the race starts.
[0:33:32 – 0:33:34] Adam: It looks like it will be the coldest day of the race.
[0:33:35 – 0:33:38] Adam: And then going into Sunday night, it’s still cold.
[0:33:38 – 0:33:40] Adam: But then Monday is warm.
[0:33:40 – 0:33:42] Adam: And then Tuesday looks really warm.
[0:33:43 – 0:33:50] Adam: And so I would think that if anything, you’re looking at the weather and the change in the route.
[0:33:50 – 0:33:55] Adam: And to me, you could run straight from the pit all the way to Sawbill.
[0:33:56 – 0:34:05] Adam: in the coolest day of the race, and put on some miles, and then when it warms up, you’re able to take more rest when you get the warmer days later in the race.
[0:34:06 – 0:34:06] Erik: Sure, yeah.
[0:34:06 – 0:34:14] Adam: So maybe this would be the year to push hard early, and therefore you’re forced to take extra rest later in the race when it’s going to be hotter.
[0:34:14 – 0:34:14] Erik: Yeah.
[0:34:14 – 0:34:17] Adam: I would think we’re going to see some teams skip Finland this year.
[0:34:18 – 0:34:25] Adam: That’s what I’m predicting, even though most years that people try and pull something like that, it ends up not seeming to work out for them.
[0:34:26 – 0:34:29] Erik: Well, if there’s any year to skip it, this would be also the year because it’s so close.
[0:34:29 – 0:34:31] Adam: So we do have some data, though.
[0:34:31 – 0:34:36] Adam: The last time the race started in Highway 2 pit, Two Harbors, was 2015.
[0:34:37 – 0:34:49] Adam: So I have some race timing sheets, and then the amount of rest that people took at Finland, and then also their final placement, which Otto Mann sent me this data.
[0:34:49 – 0:34:50] Adam: Do you want to get into it?
[0:34:50 – 0:34:51] Adam: Sure, why not?
[0:34:51 – 0:34:52] Adam: All right, buddy.
[0:34:52 – 0:34:53] Erik: I don’t have anything else to do.
[0:34:53 – 0:34:54] Erik: Okay.
[0:34:56 – 0:34:58] Adam: Is that Dakota beer treating you?
[0:34:58 – 0:34:59] Adam: Eh, it’s all right.
[0:34:59 – 0:35:01] Adam: He put it over there in the window.
[0:35:01 – 0:35:02] Adam: It needs to be colder, I think.
[0:35:04 – 0:35:07] Erik: I might get one of those ones that’s sitting outside in a little bit here.
[0:35:08 – 0:35:08] Adam: Fargo.
[0:35:08 – 0:35:10] Adam: It’s just down the road from Pinto.
[0:35:11 – 0:35:13] Erik: Yeah, what are the other checkpoints on the Iron Will…
[0:35:14 – 0:35:15] Adam: Danger Mountain.
[0:35:15 – 0:35:16] Erik: No.
[0:35:17 – 0:35:17] Adam: Slaughter River.
[0:35:18 – 0:35:20] Erik: Those sound great, actually.
[0:35:20 – 0:35:22] Erik: We keep those in mind for the screenplay.
[0:35:22 – 0:35:24] Erik: Our dog sled race screenplay.
[0:35:24 – 0:35:25] Erik: Yeah, yeah.
[0:35:25 – 0:35:27] Erik: But I feel like they’re more like boring.
[0:35:28 – 0:35:28] Erik: Minot.
[0:35:28 – 0:35:32] Erik: Yeah, they’re like central plains town names.
[0:35:32 – 0:35:32] Erik: I can’t think of it.
[0:35:32 – 0:35:34] Adam: Fargo, I think, is a checkpoint in Iron Will.
[0:35:35 – 0:35:41] Adam: We watched Iron Will, and that movie just is a ridiculous sled dog movie.
[0:35:41 – 0:35:41] Erik: Holds up.
[0:35:42 – 0:36:01] Adam: really holds it does actually uh all right here we go 2015 marathon results and uh ottoman has dialed us in for the rest that people took in finland so same scenario and this is the last time it happened so i guess every 10 years they got to move the start out of billy’s on average right now
[0:36:04 – 0:36:13] Adam: We’re going to go through them by, I don’t know, would you rather me present it in the finishing order and then how much time they actually stopped in Finland?
[0:36:13 – 0:36:19] Adam: Or would you rather have me order it by who took the short rest at Finland and went right to Sawbill?
[0:36:19 – 0:36:22] Adam: Because I think this is going to be the choice of this year’s race.
[0:36:22 – 0:36:26] Adam: Do you sit in Finland and actually rest or do you just go all the way to Sawbill?
[0:36:26 – 0:36:28] Adam: I think we’re going to have a couple teams go straight to Sawbill.
[0:36:29 – 0:36:29] Erik: Sure.
[0:36:29 – 0:36:33] Adam: I think a lot of teams will just stop and hang out in Finland.
[0:36:33 – 0:36:40] Erik: Yeah, just give me the top three and how they responded to Finland.
[0:36:40 – 0:36:47] Adam: All right, so this is 2015, and I will also point out that we don’t have any data that I can rely on as far as what the weather was doing.
[0:36:48 – 0:36:56] Adam: AutoMan did point out that the run times later in the race seemed to really slow down, indicating probably that there was some heavy snowfall later in the race.
[0:36:57 – 0:36:59] Adam: Did they know there was going to be snowfall?
[0:36:59 – 0:37:00] Adam: Did that factor into their decisions?
[0:37:01 – 0:37:02] Adam: What was the temperatures?
[0:37:02 – 0:37:03] Adam: We don’t know a lot of these things.
[0:37:03 – 0:37:07] Adam: So you can’t read too much into this, but I still found it interesting.
[0:37:07 – 0:37:13] Adam: First place that year was Ryan Anderson, the champ.
[0:37:13 – 0:37:17] Adam: Took one hour and 47 minutes in Finland and ended up winning the race.
[0:37:18 – 0:37:19] Adam: So almost two hours.
[0:37:20 – 0:37:22] Adam: Second place, Nathan Schroeder.
[0:37:22 – 0:37:25] Adam: Took two hours and 23 minutes in Finland.
[0:37:26 – 0:37:27] Adam: And finished second.
[0:37:27 – 0:37:31] Adam: And then in third, dear friend of Pronto, Colleen Wallen.
[0:37:32 – 0:37:35] Adam: In third place, took two hours and 27 minutes of rest.
[0:37:37 – 0:37:38] Adam: Other notables.
[0:37:38 – 0:37:40] Adam: I’m just going to run down the list of notables.
[0:37:40 – 0:37:43] Adam: Peter McClellan, dear friend of Pronto.
[0:37:44 – 0:37:45] Adam: Fourth place?
[0:37:45 – 0:37:47] Adam: No, I’m just going off the cuff now.
[0:37:48 – 0:37:52] Adam: This took 40 minutes of rest and went straight to Sawbill.
[0:37:52 – 0:37:53] Adam: Ended up finishing in 12th.
[0:37:54 – 0:37:56] Adam: Jamie Nelson, a four-time champ.
[0:37:56 – 0:37:58] Erik: That must have been one of her last years.
[0:37:59 – 0:38:00] Adam: It must have been.
[0:38:00 – 0:38:00] Adam: I think so.
[0:38:01 – 0:38:06] Adam: Took three hours and 50 minutes of rest at Sawbill, the complete opposite, and finished in 11th.
[0:38:07 – 0:38:07] Erik: Weird.
[0:38:07 – 0:38:08] Adam: I know.
[0:38:08 – 0:38:10] Adam: So there was all sorts of stuff going on.
[0:38:11 – 0:38:14] Adam: Multiple people scratched this year.
[0:38:14 – 0:38:15] Adam: In Finland?
[0:38:16 – 0:38:17] Adam: No, they just eventually scratched.
[0:38:17 – 0:38:19] Erik: Okay, I was going to say, that seems crazy.
[0:38:19 – 0:38:25] Adam: But all the people, three teams scratched this year, and all of them took under two hours of rest at Finland.
[0:38:26 – 0:38:27] Erik: Did anybody take zero?
[0:38:28 – 0:38:31] Adam: The lowest was Denny Tremblay.
[0:38:31 – 0:38:32] Adam: Oh, yes.
[0:38:32 – 0:38:34] Adam: Took one minute and 30 seconds of rest.
[0:38:34 – 0:38:38] Adam: Just signed in and signed out and didn’t even bother to check booties and just went on.
[0:38:40 – 0:38:41] Adam: And finished in seventh.
[0:38:42 – 0:38:42] Adam: Not bad.
[0:38:43 – 0:38:44] Erik: Denny.
[0:38:44 – 0:38:45] Adam: Denny, you crazy.
[0:38:45 – 0:38:48] Adam: What’s that burger, man?
[0:38:48 – 0:38:48] Erik: Is it?
[0:38:49 – 0:38:51] Adam: No, Martin Mazikot was in this year.
[0:38:52 – 0:38:55] Adam: Blake Frecking took over three hours, three and a half hours.
[0:38:56 – 0:39:00] Erik: I mean, what’s the mileage from Two Harbors to Finland?
[0:39:02 – 0:39:25] Adam: uh it’s like 35 or something so that’s like amazing that anybody actually stops but but then to stop for three and a half hours yeah after that and like your dog’s gotta be charged up you know unless it was really warm which again we don’t know yeah you know it’s hard to say uh i found this interesting uh odin odin was in
[0:39:27 – 0:39:28] Adam: 2015.
[0:39:28 – 0:39:29] Erik: In the marathon?
[0:39:29 – 0:39:29] Adam: Yep.
[0:39:30 – 0:39:30] Adam: Really?
[0:39:30 – 0:39:32] Adam: Odin was in and finished eighth overall.
[0:39:33 – 0:39:35] Adam: Took two hours and 36 minutes.
[0:39:35 – 0:39:39] Adam: This is our mechanic and my dear neighbor, Odin.
[0:39:39 – 0:39:40] Adam: That’s crazy.
[0:39:40 – 0:39:41] Erik: I don’t remember him.
[0:39:42 – 0:39:44] Adam: Yeah, that was probably one of the last years Odin ran.
[0:39:45 – 0:39:46] Adam: I don’t remember that either.
[0:39:46 – 0:39:50] Adam: Sean McCarty was in and took 10th overall.
[0:39:50 – 0:39:51] Adam: Took even two hours of rest.
[0:39:52 – 0:39:58] Adam: Aaron Altimus, also a neighbor, and we’re cheering for Aaron again this year.
[0:39:58 – 0:39:59] Adam: Took fourth this year.
[0:40:00 – 0:40:02] Adam: Again, always takes top five, no matter what.
[0:40:03 – 0:40:04] Adam: Took two hours and 11 minutes.
[0:40:05 – 0:40:06] Adam: But, yeah.
[0:40:07 – 0:40:08] Adam: Is this her year?
[0:40:08 – 0:40:10] Adam: I think this is her year, yeah.
[0:40:10 – 0:40:12] Adam: We’re going to get to some predictions, I hope, by the end.
[0:40:13 – 0:40:14] Adam: You ever hear of Jenny Greger?
[0:40:15 – 0:40:20] Adam: Jenny Greger ended up taking fifth and only took seven minutes of rest at Finland.
[0:40:20 – 0:40:29] Adam: So that was one of the rare ones that… Denny Tremblay and Jenny Greger both took short rest and did place in the top ten.
[0:40:29 – 0:40:29] Adam: So…
[0:40:30 – 0:40:34] Adam: But yeah, it seems to me from this data, it seems like the results are a bit mixed.
[0:40:34 – 0:40:45] Adam: The results are mixed, but all like the main top teams and all the like the most of the people who consistently do well all seem to have taken longer rest there.
[0:40:46 – 0:40:52] Adam: But that said, all that says to me, you’d be smart to stop early.
[0:40:52 – 0:40:56] Adam: And don’t try and worry about what’s going to happen Tuesday with the warm temps.
[0:40:57 – 0:40:59] Adam: Just don’t get ahead of yourselves.
[0:40:59 – 0:41:01] Adam: Don’t get over the front of your skis.
[0:41:02 – 0:41:03] Adam: Stop and take the rest.
[0:41:05 – 0:41:07] Adam: That seems like the smart play, but I don’t believe it, Eric.
[0:41:08 – 0:41:09] Erik: Yeah, I don’t know.
[0:41:09 – 0:41:11] Erik: I’m also wondering about the…
[0:41:13 – 0:41:15] Erik: Yeah, that forecast, if I was somebody…
[0:41:15 – 0:41:19] Adam: If I’m looking at Sunday being the cold day, yeah, I don’t know.
[0:41:19 – 0:41:20] Adam: I mean, every year is different.
[0:41:21 – 0:41:41] Adam: This is what makes dog sled racing and following sled dog racing interesting, and it’s the keyboard mushing and thinking about the strategy and watching it on the track or play out live in front of you and then being out on the trail and seeing those teams come by you and seeing how they look.
[0:41:42 – 0:41:54] Erik: Yeah, it’s supposed to be 31 roughly Sunday as a high, starting out really only three degrees Saturday night.
[0:41:54 – 0:41:56] Erik: So conditions should be great to start.
[0:41:57 – 0:42:00] Adam: Yeah, I mean, it looks like the first day is going to be the best day.
[0:42:00 – 0:42:03] Erik: Yeah, and then it’s just Monday, 41 and sunny.
[0:42:04 – 0:42:05] Erik: It’s not dog sledding weather.
[0:42:05 – 0:42:07] Adam: No, I mean, I’m worried about those high temps.
[0:42:07 – 0:42:09] Adam: Tuesday looks just as bad, if not worse.
[0:42:09 – 0:42:10] Erik: With a chance of rain?
[0:42:11 – 0:42:15] Adam: Yeah, it’s like an icy, wintry mix with snow on Tuesday night again then.
[0:42:15 – 0:42:22] Adam: So you’re going to be right around that temperature range where it’s just going to be wet snow or light mist.
[0:42:22 – 0:42:23] Adam: Yeah.
[0:42:23 – 0:42:23] Adam: That’s nuts.
[0:42:24 – 0:42:27] Adam: So, I mean, it could end up being a super slow race too.
[0:42:28 – 0:42:28] Adam: Sure.
[0:42:28 – 0:42:32] Adam: In which case, maybe we won’t be going out there at 2 in the morning.
[0:42:32 – 0:42:32] Erik: Yeah.
[0:42:33 – 0:42:36] Adam: But I’m prepared to go out there whenever the tracker says we need to go.
[0:42:36 – 0:42:46] Adam: We have our formulas and we know that based on when somebody finally arrives at Skyport, then we have X amount of time to like get the bonfire lit and get the corn dogs cooking.
[0:42:47 – 0:42:50] Adam: So we’ll be there, as we always are.
[0:42:51 – 0:42:57] Adam: And this will be the fifth annual running of the Pronto Roadhouse and Hospitality Stop.
[0:42:58 – 0:42:58] Erik: Busch Lattes.
[0:42:59 – 0:43:00] Adam: And I’m pretty excited.
[0:43:00 – 0:43:03] Adam: Yeah, we’re going to be doing a variation on corndogs this year.
[0:43:04 – 0:43:07] Adam: Got all sorts of other culinary delights coming at you.
[0:43:08 – 0:43:18] Adam: But, yeah, it’ll, as always, you know, it’ll be a lot of fun kind of watching the race unfold in the early days and then being out there on that last day of the race and seeing who is left.
[0:43:18 – 0:43:24] Adam: I just, I do worry with the warm temps that there’s not that many teams in the race this year compared to normal.
[0:43:24 – 0:43:29] Adam: And, yeah, with the warmer temps, it’s going to be hard on the teams.
[0:43:30 – 0:43:33] Adam: And I wonder how many teams will make it to mile 255 this year.
[0:43:33 – 0:43:35] Erik: How many are in it total?
[0:43:35 – 0:43:37] Adam: Let’s count them up, and we’ll go through the musher bios, huh?
[0:43:37 – 0:43:39] Adam: How are we doing on timer?
[0:43:39 – 0:43:40] Erik: Like 45 minutes.
[0:43:40 – 0:43:40] Adam: Okay.
[0:43:40 – 0:43:47] Erik: I was going to say, did you cull maybe some of the musher bios that are better than others?
[0:43:47 – 0:43:48] Erik: We can read them all.
[0:43:48 – 0:43:51] Adam: We’re going to just click through them all because it’s funny either way.
[0:43:51 – 0:44:01] Adam: Before we get to the musher bios, and I’ll give you that, the marathon purse this year, how much do you think the winner of the Bear Grease is getting in 2025?
[0:44:01 – 0:44:01] Adam: $7,500?
[0:44:01 – 0:44:02] Adam: $7,500.
[0:44:05 – 0:44:07] Adam: $17,500 is the total marathon purse.
[0:44:07 – 0:44:07] Adam: Oh.
[0:44:07 – 0:44:07] Adam: Sorry.
[0:44:07 – 0:44:07] Adam: Okay.
[0:44:07 – 0:44:09] Adam: So I got to be pretty close to right then.
[0:44:09 – 0:44:10] Adam: You said $75?
[0:44:10 – 0:44:11] Adam: For first place.
[0:44:11 – 0:44:13] Adam: No, it’s $4,375 for first place.
[0:44:13 – 0:44:13] Adam: That’s not.
[0:44:13 – 0:44:15] Adam: $3,150 to second and $2,450 for third place.
[0:44:27 – 0:44:30] Adam: But, like, I did look up the entry fee is, like, $390.
[0:44:30 – 0:44:33] Adam: And so 10th place, like, is going to make money.
[0:44:33 – 0:44:33] Erik: Sure.
[0:44:33 – 0:44:35] Adam: So they’re spreading it down the alley.
[0:44:36 – 0:44:36] Adam: And I don’t know.
[0:44:36 – 0:44:39] Adam: Anybody’s really getting into the barriers to, like, make big bucks.
[0:44:40 – 0:44:48] Adam: So I guess, you know, they’re ensuring that if you somehow manage to finish this race, you’re probably not going to, like, be losing money on the race entry fee at least.
[0:44:48 – 0:44:48] Adam: Yeah.
[0:44:49 – 0:44:50] Adam: Which I do like.
[0:44:50 – 0:44:54] Adam: But I was surprised that, yeah, you’re, you know, $4,375 to the winner.
[0:44:57 – 0:45:25] Adam: you know that’s a feat yeah that’s a feat it’s not not that’s not nothing but it’s also like what is that four days of your life just just the race what’s that per hour plus all the training like that’s it nobody’s doing this for the money no right uh so i don’t know i i did find that when i was reading through the rules do you want to do the uh here’s the official things that dog mushers in the bear grease must carry and then we’ll go through the musher bios and that
[0:45:25 – 0:45:31] Erik: The only one that I know for sure is the John Bear Grease mailbag.
[0:45:31 – 0:45:43] Adam: You do have to have the promotional material not to exceed 10 pounds and the mailbag, which is included, and you have to return that to the race official at the finish line or you’re disqualified.
[0:45:44 – 0:45:47] Adam: Could you imagine losing the mailbag?
[0:45:47 – 0:45:49] Adam: You’re never allowed to race in it again.
[0:45:50 – 0:45:50] Erik: Oh, God.
[0:45:51 – 0:45:52] Erik: I lost the mailbag somewhere.
[0:45:53 – 0:45:54] Adam: Yeah, you’re out of here.
[0:45:55 – 0:45:56] Adam: Your vet book, of course.
[0:45:56 – 0:45:58] Adam: Everybody’s got to have a vet book.
[0:46:00 – 0:46:03] Adam: And a set of booties for each dog, just one.
[0:46:03 – 0:46:08] Adam: But I’m assuming they, like, rebooty at every checkpoint and maybe, like, even along the trail.
[0:46:09 – 0:46:12] Adam: They’re probably all carrying way more than that, I would say.
[0:46:12 – 0:46:12] Adam: Matches.
[0:46:13 – 0:46:14] Adam: Matches are on the list.
[0:46:15 – 0:46:15] Adam: Just matches.
[0:46:15 – 0:46:16] Adam: You’ve got to have matches.
[0:46:17 – 0:46:18] Adam: Don’t lose them.
[0:46:19 – 0:46:26] Adam: Your first aid kit includes bandage, pressure dressing, and tape.
[0:46:26 – 0:46:27] Adam: You have the cable cutter?
[0:46:28 – 0:46:29] Adam: I’ve never understood this.
[0:46:29 – 0:46:32] Adam: It’s like a huge bolt cutter for your metal gang line?
[0:46:33 – 0:46:33] Erik: Yeah.
[0:46:33 – 0:46:41] Adam: Why would you have to ever cut that in case your whole team goes in the river and your father ends up going under with a sled of logs?
[0:46:42 – 0:46:48] Erik: Oh, when I used to run dogs, honestly, out of everything you’ve listed so far, it’s the most important thing I’ve heard.
[0:46:49 – 0:46:51] Erik: How many times have you had to cut a gang line?
[0:46:53 – 0:46:54] Erik: A handful of times.
[0:46:54 – 0:46:55] Erik: Yeah.
[0:46:55 – 0:47:06] Erik: Dogs get tangled, and the pressure that gets put on those things, when it gets wrapped around a couple of dogs, you get a tangle, and the team wants to keep going.
[0:47:06 – 0:47:11] Erik: All of a sudden, it’s around a dog’s neck or something, and you’ve got…
[0:47:12 – 0:47:14] Erik: eight dogs pulling against you.
[0:47:15 – 0:47:17] Adam: Yeah, I think I saw something like each dog can…
[0:47:19 – 0:47:23] Adam: Iron Will can pull 10,000 pounds just by himself.
[0:47:23 – 0:47:24] Adam: Yeah.
[0:47:24 – 0:47:26] Erik: And a lot of those gang lines… White Fang.
[0:47:26 – 0:47:31] Erik: The main gang line is almost always wire, and some people use wire out to the neck lines.
[0:47:32 – 0:47:39] Erik: Almost everybody just uses the poly to the tail end of the actual harness that the dogs are wearing.
[0:47:40 – 0:47:45] Erik: But there’s a lot of wire involved, and when they get tangled or you get mixed up within their team, anything…
[0:47:46 – 0:48:00] Erik: you just start cutting all of a sudden like yeah you’re looking at a dog’s eye bulging out of its head because it’s got wire wrapped around its neck i’m not gonna be there trying to figure out how to get 10 dogs to stop pulling damn do you think they cut in the wire do you think they keep it like in a holster
[0:48:02 – 0:48:03] Adam: Yeah, I had mine on my belt.
[0:48:03 – 0:48:04] Adam: Really?
[0:48:04 – 0:48:04] Adam: Yeah.
[0:48:04 – 0:48:06] Adam: I’m picturing this thing being like a loppers.
[0:48:06 – 0:48:07] Erik: No, no, no.
[0:48:07 – 0:48:08] Erik: It’s just a wire cutter.
[0:48:09 – 0:48:11] Adam: Oh, it’s handheld.
[0:48:11 – 0:48:12] Adam: Yeah, just a handheld.
[0:48:12 – 0:48:14] Adam: I’m picturing like a 40-inch lopper.
[0:48:14 – 0:48:15] Erik: It’s just, you know.
[0:48:15 – 0:48:16] Erik: Okay.
[0:48:16 – 0:48:19] Erik: You know, that kind of wire that’s got the little casing.
[0:48:19 – 0:48:20] Erik: Cable cutter.
[0:48:20 – 0:48:20] Erik: Okay.
[0:48:20 – 0:48:21] Erik: It’s just a little cable cutter.
[0:48:21 – 0:48:24] Adam: You also have to have a knife separate from the cable cutter.
[0:48:24 – 0:48:26] Erik: Also, yeah, also was on my belt.
[0:48:26 – 0:48:27] Adam: I got that.
[0:48:27 – 0:48:28] Adam: At all times.
[0:48:28 – 0:48:29] Adam: Everybody’s carrying a sleeping bag.
[0:48:29 – 0:48:30] Adam: Sure.
[0:48:30 – 0:48:31] Adam: Yeah.
[0:48:31 – 0:48:32] Adam: Just in case.
[0:48:33 – 0:48:37] Adam: And finally, two complete working headlamps.
[0:48:38 – 0:48:39] Erik: That’s it.
[0:48:39 – 0:48:42] Adam: They have to be able to see the lead dog.
[0:48:42 – 0:48:43] Erik: Yeah.
[0:48:44 – 0:48:47] Adam: So you’re not allowed to use the headlamp I usually camp with.
[0:48:47 – 0:48:48] Adam: That only goes five feet.
[0:48:48 – 0:48:53] Erik: Yeah, that gives you a shocking, blistering HD of the wheel dog’s anus, but nothing else.
[0:48:53 – 0:48:54] Adam: Nothing beyond that.
[0:48:55 – 0:48:59] Adam: I don’t think you need to see farther, but the Bear Grease rules, they disagree.
[0:48:59 – 0:49:01] Erik: Yeah, just as long as that wheel dog, you can tell he’s working hard.
[0:49:01 – 0:49:05] Erik: I don’t know what’s going on in the front of the team.
[0:49:05 – 0:49:06] Adam: Don’t need to know.
[0:49:06 – 0:49:07] Adam: Where we’re going.
[0:49:07 – 0:49:08] Adam: Frankly, don’t need to know.
[0:49:10 – 0:49:37] Adam: uh i got a bird of the week for you middle of the episode bird of the week for you before we hopped in a pine grosbeak uh landed on the feeder this morning wow i’ve seen a few of them in the trees back a ways but i haven’t had one actually come down to the feeder until this morning was pretty awesome yeah knocking around oh it was a real gorgeous like bright red male specimen it was wonderful all right i’ll count them up for you you count them up i’m gonna go to the bathroom
[0:49:40 – 0:50:01] Adam: that’s the way we do it in pinto who knows if all these mushers are actually going to actually show up at the start uh because i would say you don’t trust the bear grease website i do trust the mushers and they probably have told because i know for a fact that there’s all these other races
[0:50:01 – 0:50:06] Adam: When I went and looked at the Can-Am website, they had a bunch of these mushers listed there, too.
[0:50:07 – 0:50:08] Adam: Oh, no.
[0:50:09 – 0:50:11] Adam: That wasn’t tonight, but that wasn’t that long ago.
[0:50:11 – 0:50:17] Adam: I just don’t trust any, as I think alluded to earlier, I don’t trust any dog sled race website.
[0:50:17 – 0:50:19] Erik: Is it the 40th running of the Bear Grylls?
[0:50:19 – 0:50:21] Adam: It is the 40th running of the Bear Grylls.
[0:50:21 – 0:50:22] Adam: Bury the lead.
[0:50:23 – 0:50:23] Adam: 40th.
[0:50:23 – 0:50:26] Adam: The 40th is, oh, that’s a round number.
[0:50:26 – 0:50:27] Erik: Is there a word for that?
[0:50:27 – 0:50:30] Erik: You know, like the sesquicentennial?
[0:50:30 – 0:50:30] Erik: Mm-hmm.
[0:50:31 – 0:50:32] Erik: Quatro.
[0:50:33 – 0:50:34] Erik: Quatro, quatro.
[0:50:34 – 0:50:35] Erik: Quatro, quatro.
[0:50:36 – 0:50:42] Adam: It’s the quattro quattro, as John Bear Grease often said while delivering the mail.
[0:50:43 – 0:50:47] Adam: He’d roll into Toft and be like, quattro quattro.
[0:50:47 – 0:50:48] Adam: Come out and get it.
[0:50:50 – 0:50:53] Adam: That’s what John Bear Grease always said when he came into a town.
[0:50:53 – 0:50:53] Erik: Yep.
[0:50:53 – 0:50:57] Erik: And he would just give him the double wink.
[0:50:57 – 0:50:58] Erik: Yeah.
[0:50:58 – 0:51:00] Erik: He was essentially just blinking at somebody.
[0:51:00 – 0:51:04] Adam: And not a lot of people know this, but he always had sequined mittens.
[0:51:05 – 0:51:05] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:51:05 – 0:51:06] Adam: Like a disco ball.
[0:51:06 – 0:51:09] Erik: He was decades ahead of Sequins.
[0:51:10 – 0:51:15] Adam: Fashion is never finished, but it started here on the North Shore with John Bear Grease.
[0:51:15 – 0:51:17] Erik: John Bear Grease.
[0:51:17 – 0:51:18] Adam: Quattro.
[0:51:18 – 0:51:18] Adam: Quattro.
[0:51:19 – 0:51:20] Adam: Come out and get it.
[0:51:22 – 0:51:23] SPEAKER_02: I think I have a letter.
[0:51:25 – 0:51:25] Adam: No, you don’t.
[0:51:26 – 0:51:28] Adam: Oh, no.
[0:51:28 – 0:51:28] Adam: Oh, no.
[0:51:28 – 0:51:30] Adam: Maybe next month.
[0:51:32 – 0:51:33] Adam: That’s a pretty good little…
[0:51:34 – 0:51:35] Adam: scene we just did there.
[0:51:35 – 0:51:36] Adam: That was fun.
[0:51:37 – 0:51:37] Adam: And scene.
[0:51:38 – 0:51:40] Adam: Wow, we really captured something there, Eric.
[0:51:40 – 0:51:41] Adam: Did we?
[0:51:42 – 0:51:42] Adam: Indeed.
[0:51:42 – 0:51:43] Adam: Yes, we did.
[0:51:43 – 0:51:44] Adam: Indeed, we did.
[0:51:44 – 0:51:48] Adam: I’m hopping into a woodchuck also.
[0:51:48 – 0:51:49] Erik: Ah, a woodchuck or a woodchipper?
[0:51:50 – 0:51:50] Erik: I’m going in.
[0:51:50 – 0:51:52] Adam: I finished my Fargo Brewing Company Iron Horse.
[0:51:53 – 0:51:53] Erik: Woodchipper.
[0:51:55 – 0:51:59] Erik: We should probably hang on to a couple of these since the brewery is now defunct.
[0:52:00 – 0:52:01] Erik: Who knows what they’re going to be worth.
[0:52:03 – 0:52:03] Adam: Not me.
[0:52:04 – 0:52:05] Adam: I’m chugging them down.
[0:52:05 – 0:52:06] Erik: On the yellow market.
[0:52:08 – 0:52:09] Erik: Erin Eiley.
[0:52:09 – 0:52:10] Erik: I know Keith.
[0:52:12 – 0:52:15] Erik: Is it just her name that is why she’s first?
[0:52:15 – 0:52:17] Erik: It must just be alphabetical, right?
[0:52:17 – 0:52:19] Erik: No, it doesn’t seem like that at all.
[0:52:20 – 0:52:21] Erik: Yeah, no rhyme or reason.
[0:52:22 – 0:52:42] Erik: all right well we’re gonna go back and forth aaron ailey yeah we’re going back and forth husband keith and i along with the kids enjoy all things outdoors from running the dogs to hunting and fishing the more time outside the better really looking forward running the marathon again miles ahead racing kennel
[0:52:42 – 0:52:44] Adam: Yeah, the names of the kennels are always fun.
[0:52:45 – 0:52:46] Erik: Out of Ray.
[0:52:46 – 0:52:53] Erik: If anybody in the world, I would give them 1,000 guesses to where Ray, Minnesota is.
[0:52:53 – 0:52:55] Erik: Just like, here’s the outline of the state.
[0:52:56 – 0:52:58] Erik: Where do you think Ray, Minnesota is?
[0:52:59 – 0:53:03] Adam: I know where Ray, Minnesota is, but most people would not guess correctly.
[0:53:03 – 0:53:04] Adam: I guarantee you.
[0:53:04 – 0:53:05] Erik: No, absolutely not.
[0:53:05 – 0:53:08] Adam: Probably point to the southwest corner of the state, if I was being honest.
[0:53:08 – 0:53:10] Erik: Yeah, sounds like something that you’d find.
[0:53:11 – 0:53:12] Adam: You’re running them with a buggy, eh?
[0:53:12 – 0:53:14] Adam: The border of the Dakotas.
[0:53:15 – 0:53:15] Erik: Dangos.
[0:53:18 – 0:53:20] Adam: Isn’t it up by Lake of the Woods or Voyager or something?
[0:53:20 – 0:53:20] Adam: Yeah.
[0:53:21 – 0:53:21] Erik: North Central?
[0:53:22 – 0:53:22] Erik: Yeah, North Central.
[0:53:22 – 0:53:23] Erik: They got some snow.
[0:53:23 – 0:53:25] Adam: They got some snow today.
[0:53:25 – 0:53:26] Adam: I’m going to tell you what.
[0:53:27 – 0:53:29] Adam: They’re just putting the Aarons first.
[0:53:30 – 0:53:32] Adam: Aaron Ailey, former champion.
[0:53:34 – 0:53:41] Adam: Aaron Altimus, our neighbor, has not yet won it, but basically top five every year.
[0:53:42 – 0:53:48] Adam: My husband, Matt, and I live with our daughter in Kennel of 30 Racing Dogs near Grand Marais, Minnesota.
[0:53:48 – 0:53:52] Adam: We’ve been racing for 12 years, and this year we’re training a team for the Iditarod.
[0:53:53 – 0:53:58] Adam: See, I think this mushroom ride was from last year when they canceled the race because they went and did the Iditarod.
[0:53:58 – 0:53:58] Adam: Right.
[0:53:59 – 0:54:01] Adam: I don’t think they’re actually going to Iditarod this year.
[0:54:02 – 0:54:16] Erik: Yeah, I’m interested to see what some of the other mushers, because I remember reading some of the other musher bios over the years, and it was almost always like copy and paste for years.
[0:54:16 – 0:54:17] Erik: It was the one from last year.
[0:54:17 – 0:54:19] Adam: After year, yeah.
[0:54:19 – 0:54:26] Erik: If Peter was in this this year, I guarantee I could almost like, I could still picture what his was because it was the same every year.
[0:54:26 – 0:54:30] Adam: I enjoy running dogs, catching lake trout, and watching Lonesome Dove.
[0:54:32 – 0:54:53] Adam: yeah pretty much uh back to aaron altimus’s bio when i’m not running dogs i work as a nurse at the local hospital wrangle vegetables in the garden and run trail sawtooth racing kennel is the name and what inspired you to run the dogs i learned to run dogs at camp minosian mostly by trial and error there you go uh
[0:54:55 – 0:55:02] Adam: Erin Altomus has, I believe, made it past Pronto every time she has started the race.
[0:55:02 – 0:55:05] Adam: I think that she’s got a really good chance to win this year.
[0:55:05 – 0:55:07] Adam: We will get to our predictions at the end.
[0:55:08 – 0:55:13] Adam: I think we determined 16 mushers that are currently listed as entrants for the marathon.
[0:55:16 – 0:55:16] Erik: Yeah.
[0:55:17 – 0:55:17] Erik: Sounds about right.
[0:55:19 – 0:55:22] Erik: Morgan Martins from Brule.
[0:55:22 – 0:55:23] Erik: That’s northern Wisconsin.
[0:55:24 – 0:55:25] Erik: An 18-year-older.
[0:55:25 – 0:55:28] Erik: 18-year-olders.
[0:55:28 – 0:55:29] SPEAKER_00: That’s what they say.
[0:55:31 – 0:55:33] Erik: He’s been on the sled runners ever since he could walk.
[0:55:33 – 0:55:35] Erik: Now he’s running the biggest race in the lower 48.
[0:55:37 – 0:55:44] Erik: For two years, it’s been Morgan’s goal to be the youngest musher to race the 300-mile Bear Grease last year at 17 years old.
[0:55:44 – 0:55:54] Erik: His dreams were crushed, oh no, as he trained his 18-dog team over 1,400 miles to prepare for Bear Grease, only for it to be canceled due to a lack of snow.
[0:55:55 – 0:56:02] Erik: This year, both Talia and Morgan will be racing the Bear Grease marathon and various other races totaling 850 miles.
[0:56:03 – 0:56:04] Erik: Wow.
[0:56:08 – 0:56:09] Adam: 1,400 miles without training?
[0:56:09 – 0:56:11] Adam: Does that sound like a lot?
[0:56:12 – 0:56:13] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:56:13 – 0:56:17] Adam: I never… Do you ever track your mileage like that when you’re running dogs?
[0:56:18 – 0:56:18] Erik: No, no.
[0:56:19 – 0:56:24] Erik: But, I mean, we only did training just to get dogs in shape for touring, not racing.
[0:56:25 – 0:56:28] Adam: You tour to train, not the other way around.
[0:56:28 – 0:56:33] Adam: Next up on the show, the other defending champ.
[0:56:33 – 0:56:35] Adam: We have two of them in this year’s race.
[0:56:35 – 0:56:36] Adam: Nathan Schroeder.
[0:56:37 – 0:56:43] Adam: Got a really nice picture of himself on the runners with a long string of dog from Goodland, Minnesota.
[0:56:43 – 0:56:44] Adam: Where’s Goodland?
[0:56:44 – 0:56:47] Erik: Down by Duluth?
[0:56:47 – 0:56:54] Erik: If we get to a name of a town in Minnesota that we for sure know where it is besides Grand Marais, I will be shocked.
[0:56:55 – 0:56:56] Erik: Yeah, I don’t know where anything is in Minnesota.
[0:56:56 – 0:56:57] Adam: What did you say?
[0:56:57 – 0:56:58] Erik: Goodland.
[0:56:58 – 0:57:02] Erik: Well, the next musher I’m reading is from Brookston.
[0:57:02 – 0:57:03] Adam: Brookston.
[0:57:03 – 0:57:04] Adam: These are all made-up names.
[0:57:04 – 0:57:08] Adam: This is like Troy McClure, like the monorail guy.
[0:57:08 – 0:57:09] Adam: North Haverbrook.
[0:57:10 – 0:57:11] Adam: Yeah, just saw the pinto.
[0:57:11 – 0:57:12] Erik: We put these all on the map.
[0:57:13 – 0:57:14] Adam: This is great.
[0:57:15 – 0:57:16] Adam: Zero punctuation.
[0:57:16 – 0:57:17] Adam: This is how I would type.
[0:57:17 – 0:57:18] Adam: I love this.
[0:57:18 – 0:57:19] Adam: All lowercase.
[0:57:20 – 0:57:23] Adam: I have been involved with mushing since I was 12 years old.
[0:57:23 – 0:57:25] Adam: I have had a full career of mushing.
[0:57:25 – 0:57:30] Adam: We have logged thousands and thousands of miles, raced all over from Maine to Alaska.
[0:57:31 – 0:57:33] Adam: I’m a four-time champ of the Bear Grease Marathon.
[0:57:34 – 0:57:40] Adam: Also, I’ve finished Iditarod four times, including Rookie of the Year, kennel name Schroeder Mushing.
[0:57:41 – 0:57:47] Adam: I know we said we weren’t going to click on any links, but I’m very tempted to click on schroedermushing.org.
[0:57:47 – 0:57:49] SPEAKER_02: I didn’t.
[0:57:49 – 0:57:50] SPEAKER_02: Why did I do it?
[0:57:51 – 0:57:52] Adam: It’s not a real website.
[0:57:52 – 0:57:53] Adam: It doesn’t exist.
[0:57:53 – 0:57:54] Adam: Safari can’t open page.
[0:57:54 – 0:57:55] Adam: Wow.
[0:57:56 – 0:57:57] Adam: I shouldn’t have clicked.
[0:57:57 – 0:57:58] Adam: We agreed not to click.
[0:57:58 – 0:58:00] Erik: And then you went and did it anyway.
[0:58:00 – 0:58:01] Adam: Oh, man.
[0:58:01 – 0:58:04] Adam: I got a ride from a team of Malamutes in the fifth grade.
[0:58:04 – 0:58:05] Adam: Instantly done deal.
[0:58:05 – 0:58:06] Adam: The interest was sparked.
[0:58:06 – 0:58:07] Adam: That’s the…
[0:58:08 – 0:58:11] Adam: That’s the how’d you get into mushing question.
[0:58:11 – 0:58:12] Adam: That’s great.
[0:58:12 – 0:58:13] Erik: From Nathan Schroeder.
[0:58:13 – 0:58:13] Adam: Yeah.
[0:58:15 – 0:58:19] Adam: Always a big fan of seeing Nathan Schroeder at Pronto.
[0:58:19 – 0:58:20] Adam: I hope he makes it.
[0:58:20 – 0:58:23] Erik: Punctuation was never a musher strong suit, I don’t think.
[0:58:24 – 0:58:25] Adam: It’s not mine either.
[0:58:25 – 0:58:27] Erik: David Berg?
[0:58:27 – 0:58:27] Erik: E?
[0:58:27 – 0:58:28] Adam: Berger.
[0:58:29 – 0:58:30] Erik: No R. Berg.
[0:58:30 – 0:58:31] Erik: Berg.
[0:58:31 – 0:58:32] Erik: From Brookston.
[0:58:32 – 0:58:33] Erik: Brookston.
[0:58:35 – 0:58:36] Erik: Brockway.
[0:58:36 – 0:58:36] Erik: North Haverbrook.
[0:58:38 – 0:59:04] Erik: and brookston and by gummit we put them on the map my family and i run a little place called dogwoods that has sled dogs cut your own christmas trees and now sheep too what does that mean we’re doing wool there’s sheep we’re doing wool stuff cut your own christmas trees and shear your own sheep i started in mushing by volunteering at sawbill checkpoint for the bear grease oh yeah this is the sawbilly
[0:59:05 – 0:59:07] Adam: We probably met this guy.
[0:59:07 – 0:59:08] Erik: We probably know who this is, yeah.
[0:59:09 – 0:59:12] Erik: Then meeting a musher on our honeymoon in Alaska.
[0:59:13 – 0:59:16] Erik: Deke Naktigaboran.
[0:59:16 – 0:59:17] Erik: They met Deke?
[0:59:17 – 0:59:18] Erik: Yeah, apparently.
[0:59:19 – 0:59:19] Adam: No way.
[0:59:19 – 0:59:20] Adam: Deke’s dogs.
[0:59:20 – 0:59:21] Adam: He’s wearing a Deke’s dogs shirt.
[0:59:22 – 0:59:26] Adam: Yeah, I think I had Deke on my Fantasy Iditarod team last year.
[0:59:27 – 0:59:28] Adam: Or Fantasy Yukon Quest.
[0:59:29 – 0:59:30] Adam: How do you pronounce that last name?
[0:59:30 – 0:59:31] Adam: Noctaborkin.
[0:59:32 – 0:59:33] Erik: Noctaborkin?
[0:59:33 – 0:59:34] Adam: Nailed it.
[0:59:35 – 0:59:35] Erik: Nailed it.
[0:59:35 – 0:59:38] Erik: Doctor, not gonna ever say that right again.
[0:59:38 – 0:59:41] Erik: Yeah, our first race was a two-dog sprint race.
[0:59:42 – 0:59:44] Adam: Yeah, that sounds like a Marie Champagne song for sure.
[0:59:44 – 0:59:46] Erik: Yeah, two-dog sprint race.
[0:59:46 – 0:59:48] Adam: Going up to the gosh darn place.
[0:59:48 – 0:59:51] Adam: Our kennel has since expanded to 18 dogs.
[0:59:51 – 0:59:52] Adam: Now we’re talking.
[0:59:52 – 0:59:58] Erik: By day, I’m an aquatic biologist and often out sampling streams or hunkered over a microscope.
[0:59:59 – 1:00:03] Erik: We have two young children who are the light of our lives and greatest joy.
[1:00:03 – 1:00:06] Erik: Being a dad is definitely one of my biggest passions.
[1:00:07 – 1:00:08] Erik: Dogwoods Kennel.
[1:00:08 – 1:00:08] Erik: Dogwoods.
[1:00:08 – 1:00:09] Erik: From Brookston.
[1:00:10 – 1:00:11] Erik: On the map.
[1:00:12 – 1:00:13] Erik: You did it.
[1:00:13 – 1:00:14] Erik: Oh, you get Colleen?
[1:00:15 – 1:00:16] Adam: I get Colleen.
[1:00:16 – 1:00:17] Adam: I lucked out.
[1:00:17 – 1:00:19] Adam: I got another rule for you.
[1:00:20 – 1:00:22] Adam: You’re allowed to start the marathon with 12 dogs.
[1:00:22 – 1:00:23] Adam: Sure.
[1:00:23 – 1:00:23] Erik: Obviously.
[1:00:24 – 1:00:24] Adam: Obviously.
[1:00:25 – 1:00:27] Erik: You can start with as few as you want.
[1:00:27 – 1:00:29] Adam: No, that’s actually not true.
[1:00:29 – 1:00:30] Adam: You have to start with eight.
[1:00:30 – 1:00:31] Adam: At least eight.
[1:00:31 – 1:00:31] Adam: There’s a minimum.
[1:00:32 – 1:00:34] Adam: You must start with eight, but you don’t need to start with 12.
[1:00:34 – 1:00:35] Adam: That makes sense.
[1:00:35 – 1:00:38] Adam: Do you think anybody that you can remember has started with less than 12?
[1:00:38 – 1:00:42] Erik: I start with eight, and I have six jammed in my basket.
[1:00:43 – 1:00:44] Adam: Oh, I guess you could do that.
[1:00:45 – 1:00:45] Erik: Pump him in there.
[1:00:45 – 1:00:47] Adam: That was a Dallas Seaview trick for a couple of years.
[1:00:48 – 1:00:49] Adam: He had like a minivan for a sled.
[1:00:50 – 1:00:50] Erik: Yeah.
[1:00:50 – 1:00:53] Adam: And he just kept half the dogs in there playing GameCube.
[1:00:53 – 1:00:54] Adam: Yeah.
[1:00:54 – 1:00:56] Adam: Until they got all the way past Takatna.
[1:00:56 – 1:00:57] Adam: You know those bags?
[1:00:57 – 1:00:59] Adam: And then they’re like, all right, hop out, boys.
[1:00:59 – 1:00:59] Adam: You’re in.
[1:01:00 – 1:01:09] Erik: You know those like storage unit bags for you put like a bunch of your clothes or blankets in it and then you seal it up and you take a little vacuum.
[1:01:10 – 1:01:11] Erik: Exactly like that.
[1:01:11 – 1:01:12] Erik: They’re just packed in there.
[1:01:12 – 1:01:12] Adam: With a goo.
[1:01:12 – 1:01:14] Adam: Vacuum sealed huskies.
[1:01:14 – 1:01:15] Adam: With a goo.
[1:01:15 – 1:01:16] Adam: It’s good for the paw.
[1:01:16 – 1:01:17] Adam: Good for the paw.
[1:01:18 – 1:01:19] SPEAKER_02: Good for the paw.
[1:01:21 – 1:01:23] Adam: Next up on the show, Colleen Wallen.
[1:01:26 – 1:01:30] Adam: I would say it’s my favorite musher at this point to ever come through Pronto.
[1:01:31 – 1:01:32] Adam: Going to the Pronto Hall of Fame for sure.
[1:01:32 – 1:01:34] Erik: In terms of when they pass through Pronto?
[1:01:34 – 1:01:34] Erik: Yeah.
[1:01:35 – 1:01:35] Erik: Most memorable.
[1:01:35 – 1:01:39] Adam: Colleen from Two Harbors.
[1:01:39 – 1:01:41] Adam: They’re starting in her hometown this year.
[1:01:42 – 1:01:43] Adam: I like this a lot.
[1:01:43 – 1:01:46] Adam: My lead dogs are Growler, Corona, and Guinness.
[1:01:47 – 1:01:49] Adam: Our family lives north of Two Harbors and we train together.
[1:01:50 – 1:01:59] Adam: Our oldest son Ian helps with chores when he can and our youngest son Arrow runs and trains with us when he is home from Upper Iowa University.
[1:02:00 – 1:02:02] Erik: There is no Arrow this year.
[1:02:02 – 1:02:07] Adam: Ward will run the UP200 this year, and we’ll also run the Gunflint Mail Run.
[1:02:07 – 1:02:12] Adam: Hoping for every fan, musher, and handler has been doing their snow dance every night.
[1:02:13 – 1:02:20] Adam: Thank you, everyone, for your support and involvement in this amazing race from Silver Creek Sled Dogs.
[1:02:21 – 1:02:25] Adam: And they list an Instagram for Colleen, but there’s not a link there.
[1:02:26 – 1:02:27] Adam: Here’s the inspiration.
[1:02:28 – 1:02:38] Adam: Watching a newscast that the Bear Grease Marathon mushers would be arriving at the Two Harbors Highway 2 checkpoint within the hour, the race was downbound from the turn around up at Grand Portage.
[1:02:38 – 1:02:40] Adam: That’s when you found out about it, huh?
[1:02:41 – 1:02:43] Adam: You’re just like, we should go check that out.
[1:02:43 – 1:02:44] Adam: That’s how it happens, honestly.
[1:02:44 – 1:02:45] Adam: I don’t know.
[1:02:45 – 1:02:47] Adam: We’ll go check out this pit.
[1:02:48 – 1:02:49] Adam: Let’s go see what’s going on in the pit.
[1:02:50 – 1:02:50] Erik: I’m hooked.
[1:02:50 – 1:02:51] Erik: Check out the pit.
[1:02:51 – 1:02:52] Erik: I’m hooked.
[1:02:52 – 1:03:15] Adam: growler corona and guinness i will i think i’ve been trying to like think of what i want to i want to try and ask each musher at pronto the same question this year and that was the question i want to ask tell me about your lead dog or who who are the lead dogs or what’s the best way to ask that to a musher when they’re you have two seconds to ask a question and you’re hoping for a like two one word responses
[1:03:16 – 1:03:20] Erik: Yeah, I’ll think about it.
[1:03:20 – 1:03:23] Adam: I don’t know what the right way to ask because everybody’s got two lead dogs.
[1:03:24 – 1:03:28] Erik: And so you can’t just be like… You should try throwing them off.
[1:03:28 – 1:03:28] Erik: Who’s in wheel?
[1:03:29 – 1:03:29] Adam: Yeah.
[1:03:30 – 1:03:31] Adam: Who’s in wheel?
[1:03:31 – 1:03:32] Adam: Nobody ever asks.
[1:03:32 – 1:03:35] Adam: Yeah, nobody ever asks about these grinders back here.
[1:03:35 – 1:03:36] Adam: About Larry in wheel.
[1:03:36 – 1:03:38] Erik: What about Larry in wheel?
[1:03:38 – 1:03:39] Adam: How did that dog get cigarettes?
[1:03:42 – 1:03:42] Adam: Larry.
[1:03:43 – 1:03:46] Erik: Is Larry dipping right now?
[1:03:46 – 1:03:47] Erik: Is that right, man?
[1:03:47 – 1:03:48] Adam: He’s dipping.
[1:03:48 – 1:03:49] Adam: He’s chawing.
[1:03:50 – 1:03:52] Adam: Yeah, give Larry a corndog.
[1:03:52 – 1:03:53] Erik: Kirk Webber.
[1:03:53 – 1:03:53] Erik: Uh-oh.
[1:03:53 – 1:03:55] Adam: Kirk, you got Kirk’d?
[1:03:55 – 1:03:56] Adam: Yeah, Paige can’t be found.
[1:03:57 – 1:03:58] Adam: Oh, no, maybe Kirk dropped out.
[1:03:58 – 1:03:59] Erik: No, Kirk Webber.
[1:03:59 – 1:04:01] Adam: Kirk Webber can’t be found.
[1:04:01 – 1:04:02] Adam: Oh, Sean McCarty, I’ll do that.
[1:04:02 – 1:04:03] Adam: You got Sean there.
[1:04:03 – 1:04:04] Erik: I know where Babbitt is.
[1:04:05 – 1:04:07] Erik: That’s only because I’ve… You lived there.
[1:04:07 – 1:04:08] Erik: I’m special.
[1:04:09 – 1:04:16] Erik: My wife and I have 28 dogs, 16 racing dogs, and 12 that only haul freight for our B-dub freighting business.
[1:04:16 – 1:04:17] Erik: Nice.
[1:04:17 – 1:04:21] Erik: In addition to mushing, I like fishing and hunting as well as riding my bike.
[1:04:23 – 1:04:23] Erik: That’s awesome.
[1:04:23 – 1:04:24] Erik: That’s it.
[1:04:25 – 1:04:27] Adam: You know, I don’t know if anybody has made it this far in the episode.
[1:04:27 – 1:04:29] Adam: I’m like, what the hell are these guys talking about?
[1:04:30 – 1:04:38] Adam: But if you don’t know, the first time I really got into dogs was when Eric took me on a winter camping trip out to Knife.
[1:04:38 – 1:04:40] Adam: I regret it to this day.
[1:04:40 – 1:04:43] Adam: Using a bunch of dogs to haul us and our gear out there.
[1:04:44 – 1:04:45] Adam: Not using, enjoying.
[1:04:45 – 1:04:46] Adam: Yeah.
[1:04:46 – 1:04:50] Adam: They had more enjoyment than I did, frankly, but I had a lot of enjoyment.
[1:04:50 – 1:04:51] Adam: It was a great trip, and…
[1:04:52 – 1:04:54] Adam: Yeah, you can go into the Boundary Waters using dogs.
[1:04:56 – 1:04:57] Adam: Enjoying dogs.
[1:04:57 – 1:04:58] Erik: Enjoying dogs.
[1:04:59 – 1:05:02] Adam: You can go into the Boundary Waters with dog power.
[1:05:02 – 1:05:04] Erik: Yeah, it’s one of the weird…
[1:05:04 – 1:05:09] Adam: It’s a weird, quirky side rule, and not very many people are taking advantage of it.
[1:05:09 – 1:05:13] Adam: If you thought that whitefish netting episodes were obscure, just get a load of this.
[1:05:13 – 1:05:19] Adam: You can take dog sled teams and go dog power all the way up to knife and go catch a bunch of fish and do whatever you want, really.
[1:05:20 – 1:05:20] Erik: It’s crazy.
[1:05:21 – 1:05:21] Erik: Rip miles.
[1:05:21 – 1:05:35] Adam: So if you’re wondering why we’re so into dog mushing, that’s one reason for sure is Eric used to run dogs and you can take dogs into the boundary waters all winter long and it’s totally legal.
[1:05:36 – 1:05:39] Adam: And usually when you have to say something like that, it’s not actually legal.
[1:05:39 – 1:05:41] Adam: But in this case, it’s true.
[1:05:41 – 1:05:42] Erik: I don’t know.
[1:05:42 – 1:05:46] Erik: Dog sledding is just a pretty amazing thing.
[1:05:46 – 1:05:47] Erik: It is amazing.
[1:05:48 – 1:05:50] Adam: And it’s a great way to access the park that we all love.
[1:05:50 – 1:05:50] Adam: Yeah.
[1:05:51 – 1:05:53] Erik: I don’t think anybody’s here to be convinced of that.
[1:05:54 – 1:06:10] Erik: There’s many avenues that I’m sure our smart listeners at this point can drive down to learn about why it’s such an amazing sport and everything that goes into it.
[1:06:10 – 1:06:13] Erik: But yeah, that’s essentially why we’re here.
[1:06:14 – 1:06:19] Erik: And then to be adjacent to it and next to it and just to…
[1:06:20 – 1:06:40] Erik: taste a little bit of what at least for myself I used to be deeply into is still amazing to see and it’s just a fun thing to do in the winter yeah I think we’re still both deeply into it you were way deeper into it at one point than I ever will be but I think we’re both like super interested in
[1:06:42 – 1:07:06] Adam: uh somehow um both due to like our own interest and your experience and a lot of the people we know that we’ve ended up learning a lot from whether we like it or not we both know a lot about the at this point following it enough and it’s something i’m like really happy to know a lot about and it’s a weird thing to get into but um living up here in the middle of winter is weird yeah
[1:07:07 – 1:07:09] Adam: Clayton Perry has no website or page.
[1:07:10 – 1:07:12] Adam: I’m going on to Rhonda Hirschkamp.
[1:07:12 – 1:07:13] Adam: Am I saying that right?
[1:07:13 – 1:07:14] Erik: Hirschap.
[1:07:15 – 1:07:20] Adam: Rhonda Hirschap from Nolalu, Ontario.
[1:07:20 – 1:07:20] Adam: All right.
[1:07:21 – 1:07:23] Adam: So we’re going to get the Canadian National Anthem in the pit.
[1:07:24 – 1:07:28] Adam: It would be worth it just to go down just to hear the Canadian National Anthem in the pit.
[1:07:29 – 1:07:30] Adam: Maybe we will go.
[1:07:31 – 1:07:31] Adam: We’ll see.
[1:07:32 – 1:07:33] Adam: Keep your Sunday free, Eric.
[1:07:33 – 1:07:34] Erik: Okay.
[1:07:35 – 1:07:36] Adam: Here you go, Rhonda.
[1:07:36 – 1:07:40] Adam: Looking forward to heading up the North Shore again for the 2025 Bear Grease.
[1:07:40 – 1:07:43] Adam: This year, Andy and I will share the trail in the 120.
[1:07:43 – 1:07:44] Adam: I don’t think so.
[1:07:45 – 1:07:46] Adam: That’s not what this says.
[1:07:47 – 1:07:49] Adam: We will be running 10 young dogs in our teams.
[1:07:50 – 1:07:57] Adam: We’ll get all of our young dogs some experience on the Bear Grylls Trail with plans that they all run the marathon in 2026.
[1:07:57 – 1:08:01] Adam: All right, but Rhonda, his list is running the marathon in 2025.
[1:08:02 – 1:08:03] Adam: I don’t know what to say about that.
[1:08:03 – 1:08:06] Adam: The name of their kennel is Paws on Patrol Racing.
[1:08:08 – 1:08:12] Adam: That definitely is… That’s a show on Disney+, I’m pretty sure.
[1:08:13 – 1:08:29] Adam: paws on patrol there you go uh has experience working as a dog sledding guide and i got a sled dog from that kennel and i’ve had sled dogs for over 20 years now that is usually the story
[1:08:30 – 1:08:32] Adam: I got one dog, and now I got 20.
[1:08:32 – 1:08:33] Erik: That’s how it goes.
[1:08:33 – 1:08:34] Adam: And I’m running the berries.
[1:08:34 – 1:08:36] Adam: So very nice picture of Rhonda here.
[1:08:37 – 1:08:38] Adam: That’s nice.
[1:08:39 – 1:08:40] Adam: Pretty good bio.
[1:08:41 – 1:08:44] Adam: Maybe out of date by a year, but great picture.
[1:08:44 – 1:08:46] Adam: Thank you, Rhonda, and good luck.
[1:08:47 – 1:08:49] Erik: Leon Church, still in it apparently.
[1:08:50 – 1:08:52] Adam: Leon, doing things.
[1:08:52 – 1:08:53] Erik: Bozeman.
[1:08:53 – 1:08:54] SPEAKER_02: Montana.
[1:08:55 – 1:08:56] Erik: Oh, the other Bozeman.
[1:08:56 – 1:09:00] Erik: B-O-W-S-M-A-N, not Boz.
[1:09:00 – 1:09:01] Erik: Bozeman?
[1:09:01 – 1:09:02] SPEAKER_02: Bozeman.
[1:09:03 – 1:09:10] Erik: The Bowsman, third generation trapper from the Porcupine Mountain in West Central Manitoba.
[1:09:10 – 1:09:11] Erik: I like this.
[1:09:11 – 1:09:13] Erik: Began running sled dogs.
[1:09:14 – 1:09:15] Erik: Yeah, he’s a good looking musher.
[1:09:15 – 1:09:16] Erik: Oh my.
[1:09:16 – 1:09:28] Erik: But six years ago when my passion for dog ownership led me to exceeding 10 to 12 dogs through keeping pups and adopting rescues, none of my dogs have been purchased.
[1:09:28 – 1:09:29] Erik: Good.
[1:09:29 – 1:09:31] Erik: And we are a self-taught sled team.
[1:09:31 – 1:09:32] Erik: That’s fun.
[1:09:32 – 1:09:32] Erik: Yeah.
[1:09:33 – 1:09:36] Erik: I now own and operate a dog kennel of 40 dogs.
[1:09:37 – 1:09:43] Erik: We offer sled rides, trapline tours, and… Ooh, that would be interesting.
[1:09:43 – 1:09:44] Adam: This guy probably snares.
[1:09:44 – 1:09:47] Erik: Bookings for both public and private events.
[1:09:48 – 1:09:49] Adam: Seems just like a sales pitch from…
[1:09:49 – 1:09:51] Adam: Leon here for a second, but hey.
[1:09:51 – 1:09:52] Adam: That’s the whole point of running.
[1:09:53 – 1:09:53] Adam: Yeah.
[1:09:53 – 1:10:02] Erik: We produce all of our own dog food with help from local suppliers of meats and fish, along with personal harvesting of fish and certain wild game.
[1:10:02 – 1:10:03] Erik: All right.
[1:10:03 – 1:10:08] Erik: In addition to dog food sales, the business has recently expanded into freeze-dried products!
[1:10:08 – 1:10:09] Erik: Exclamation point.
[1:10:09 – 1:10:09] Erik: Sheesh.
[1:10:09 – 1:10:12] Erik: We have full intentions of running the Iditarod in the near future.
[1:10:13 – 1:10:13] Erik: Really?
[1:10:13 – 1:10:15] Erik: And hopefully for many years to come.
[1:10:16 – 1:10:16] Erik: Leon!
[1:10:16 – 1:10:22] Erik: We are very excited to travel to Minnesota for another qualifying race towards our ultimate goal.
[1:10:23 – 1:10:24] Adam: You got to watch those qualifiers, though.
[1:10:24 – 1:10:26] Adam: They got the moon in their eyes.
[1:10:27 – 1:10:28] Adam: What does that mean?
[1:10:29 – 1:10:31] Adam: The moon in their eyes.
[1:10:32 – 1:10:37] Adam: They got big plans, and I feel like the people that have the big plans always come in here.
[1:10:37 – 1:10:38] Adam: I don’t know.
[1:10:39 – 1:10:40] Adam: Is Leon Church a rookie?
[1:10:41 – 1:10:42] Adam: Sounds like it.
[1:10:42 – 1:10:43] Adam: Sounds like it’s a rookie run.
[1:10:44 – 1:10:45] Adam: It worries me.
[1:10:45 – 1:10:53] Adam: And it can work out, but this trail is notorious for taking people with big dreams and humbling.
[1:10:54 – 1:10:58] Adam: As we always say here on Tumble Home, stay tumble.
[1:10:59 – 1:11:02] Erik: I don’t think that’s ever been said, but… Oh, yeah.
[1:11:02 – 1:11:03] Adam: Be tumble.
[1:11:03 – 1:11:04] Erik: Bee tumble.
[1:11:05 – 1:11:05] Adam: Slow down.
[1:11:06 – 1:11:07] Adam: Bee tumble.
[1:11:08 – 1:11:11] SPEAKER_02: Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
[1:11:11 – 1:11:11] SPEAKER_02: Leon.
[1:11:12 – 1:11:13] SPEAKER_02: Bee tumble.
[1:11:14 – 1:11:14] Adam: All right.
[1:11:14 – 1:11:15] Adam: We nailed it.
[1:11:15 – 1:11:16] Adam: Nailed it.
[1:11:16 – 1:11:20] Adam: Anyways, it sounds like he’s got a lot of dogs, though.
[1:11:20 – 1:11:23] Adam: So, you know, he knows what he’s doing.
[1:11:23 – 1:11:26] Adam: Just keep your foot on the drag mat, Leon.
[1:11:26 – 1:11:27] Erik: Or just don’t.
[1:11:28 – 1:11:29] Erik: Just let him run.
[1:11:29 – 1:11:30] Erik: He’s all gas.
[1:11:30 – 1:11:31] Adam: No brakes.
[1:11:31 – 1:11:31] Adam: No brakes.
[1:11:32 – 1:11:32] Adam: Leon.
[1:11:33 – 1:11:34] Adam: All right.
[1:11:34 – 1:11:36] Adam: I’m a big fan of Leon.
[1:11:36 – 1:11:37] Adam: Next up on the show, Mary Manning.
[1:11:40 – 1:11:42] Adam: Dear friend of the show, Mary Manning.
[1:11:43 – 1:11:44] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[1:11:44 – 1:11:44] Adam: From Hoveland.
[1:11:45 – 1:11:46] SPEAKER_02: Basically a neighbor.
[1:11:47 – 1:11:49] Adam: Local favorite, Mary Manning.
[1:11:50 – 1:11:52] SPEAKER_02: Tougher than nails.
[1:11:53 – 1:11:54] SPEAKER_02: Hee hee!
[1:11:54 – 1:11:56] Adam: I live off-grid in the woods of Hoveland.
[1:11:57 – 1:12:01] Adam: I’ve always loved the peace of spending time in the woods and finding ways to enjoy nature.
[1:12:02 – 1:12:09] Adam: I’ve raced in Wyoming, Maine, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Minnesota, and have placed everywhere from first to last.
[1:12:11 – 1:12:34] Adam: and i live about three miles off part of the bear grease trails that’s true doodle dog kennels representing i’ve been inspired since i started running over 20 years ago i really just wanted a fun way to spend some time with my dogs in the woods so if michigan and wisconsin is we me what about min min we me for both all three of them
[1:12:35 – 1:12:35] Erik: Min-wee-me?
[1:12:36 – 1:12:37] Adam: Nah.
[1:12:37 – 1:12:37] Adam: Mini-wee-me?
[1:12:37 – 1:12:41] Adam: It’d be like wee-me-sota.
[1:12:41 – 1:12:43] Erik: Wee-me-sota.
[1:12:44 – 1:12:45] Adam: For the tri-state area?
[1:12:47 – 1:12:47] Adam: Yeah.
[1:12:47 – 1:12:49] Adam: The superior states.
[1:12:50 – 1:12:51] Adam: Wee-me-sota.
[1:12:53 – 1:12:54] Adam: I don’t like the way you said that.
[1:12:55 – 1:12:56] Adam: I don’t like it at all.
[1:12:56 – 1:12:57] Adam: Next up on the show.
[1:12:58 – 1:12:59] Adam: Get us out of here, Eric.
[1:12:59 – 1:13:02] Erik: Get me out, Jesse Terry.
[1:13:02 – 1:13:03] Erik: Woo!
[1:13:03 – 1:13:04] Erik: From Sioux Lookout.
[1:13:05 – 1:13:06] Erik: That’s in Ontario.
[1:13:07 – 1:13:10] Erik: Together with my wife, Mary.
[1:13:10 – 1:13:14] Erik: And two children, we share a life with a fun pack of Alaskan Huskies.
[1:13:15 – 1:13:21] Erik: They take us places both physically and emotionally that we could not go without them in our lives.
[1:13:21 – 1:13:22] Erik: That’s very well said.
[1:13:23 – 1:13:27] Erik: In the summer months when the doggies are on holiday, I like to ride my bike.
[1:13:28 – 1:13:29] Erik: Second bike rider.
[1:13:30 – 1:13:30] Adam: Enthusiast.
[1:13:30 – 1:13:32] Adam: Way to stay fit, Terry.
[1:13:34 – 1:13:36] Adam: Jesse is one of my favorites.
[1:13:37 – 1:13:38] Adam: And…
[1:13:39 – 1:13:47] Adam: The last time we were together on the Bear Grylls Trail, that was Jesse’s first run at it, and he didn’t make it past trail center.
[1:13:48 – 1:13:51] Adam: The Sawtooth Mountains ate him up like they do so often.
[1:13:52 – 1:14:02] Adam: But 2023 in New York and Mexico, he did finish and had a hell of a finish too.
[1:14:02 – 1:14:04] Adam: Really good run for Jesse Terry.
[1:14:04 – 1:14:04] Adam: Yeah.
[1:14:06 – 1:14:19] Adam: He ran the Yukon Quest Canada, I don’t know, three, four weeks ago now, and finished third, just behind Michelle Phillips and Jesse Royer, who are both top 10 Iditarod finishers, I believe.
[1:14:20 – 1:14:24] Adam: For sure, Royer has Michelle Phillips maybe top 12 or something like that, but…
[1:14:25 – 1:14:26] Adam: Serious mushers.
[1:14:27 – 1:14:27] Adam: Serious.
[1:14:28 – 1:14:31] Adam: Jesse Terry is looking to make a move, I think, this year.
[1:14:32 – 1:14:36] Adam: I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Jesse Terry was first to pronto on Tuesday.
[1:14:37 – 1:14:38] Adam: Next up on the show, Mary England.
[1:14:38 – 1:14:39] Adam: Mary England.
[1:14:42 – 1:14:43] Adam: That’s a nice picture.
[1:14:43 – 1:14:44] Adam: Wow.
[1:14:44 – 1:14:46] Adam: Also, Sue Lookout.
[1:14:46 – 1:14:47] Adam: Another Sue Lookout.
[1:14:49 – 1:14:50] Adam: Jesse’s wife.
[1:14:51 – 1:14:56] Adam: Moved to Sue Lookout in 2016, then started mushing after meeting Jesse and the two kids.
[1:14:57 – 1:14:58] Adam: His two kids.
[1:14:58 – 1:14:59] Adam: We spend time on the land.
[1:15:00 – 1:15:04] Adam: Getting out on the bike and canoe trips and also generally love hanging out at our home.
[1:15:05 – 1:15:08] Adam: We have 28 sled dogs and increasingly more retired house dogs.
[1:15:09 – 1:15:10] Adam: Train up two teams for the racing season.
[1:15:11 – 1:15:13] Adam: I tend to take it slow and happy with our yearling crew.
[1:15:14 – 1:15:14] Adam: There we go.
[1:15:15 – 1:15:16] Adam: That’s a really nice picture.
[1:15:16 – 1:15:17] Adam: On the land mushing.
[1:15:19 – 1:15:22] Adam: And what inspired you to start running?
[1:15:22 – 1:15:24] Adam: Meeting my husband and his team of sled dogs.
[1:15:25 – 1:15:28] Adam: A proud WAG turned musher.
[1:15:30 – 1:15:30] Adam: There you go.
[1:15:33 – 1:15:34] Adam: Well, we hope to see you.
[1:15:35 – 1:15:36] Adam: We hope to see you at Pronto as well, Mary.
[1:15:36 – 1:15:38] Erik: We hope to see everybody.
[1:15:38 – 1:15:39] Adam: Everybody’s going to make it, actually.
[1:15:39 – 1:15:40] Adam: Take it all back.
[1:15:40 – 1:15:42] Adam: The warm weather, just take it easy.
[1:15:42 – 1:15:43] Adam: Lots of extra rest.
[1:15:43 – 1:15:43] Adam: You’ll all be there.
[1:15:44 – 1:15:49] Adam: We’ll bring a big jug of water this year.
[1:15:49 – 1:15:51] Adam: I got a big tub of water I’m bringing.
[1:15:51 – 1:15:55] Adam: If you need water, we got clean water at Pronto Hospitality Stop.
[1:15:55 – 1:15:56] Adam: That’s a guarantee.
[1:15:56 – 1:15:56] Adam: Nice.
[1:15:57 – 1:15:58] Adam: Water’s always needed.
[1:15:58 – 1:16:01] Adam: I’ll bring it from the well at the Tumble Shed.
[1:16:01 – 1:16:03] Adam: It’s the finest well water you’ve ever tasted.
[1:16:05 – 1:16:07] Erik: This one might be my favorite so far.
[1:16:07 – 1:16:09] Erik: We got Redmond Glisson.
[1:16:10 – 1:16:11] Erik: Is this a Frenchman?
[1:16:11 – 1:16:13] Erik: No, he’s from Warner, Oklahoma.
[1:16:13 – 1:16:13] Erik: Ha!
[1:16:15 – 1:16:15] Erik: Okie?
[1:16:16 – 1:16:17] Erik: I was born in Oklahoma.
[1:16:18 – 1:16:22] Erik: I worked construction, pursued hobbies for a while after school.
[1:16:23 – 1:16:27] Erik: I trained at the local gym doing some martial arts and other things.
[1:16:28 – 1:16:28] Erik: What?
[1:16:31 – 1:16:31] Adam: What?
[1:16:32 – 1:16:32] SPEAKER_02: The end?
[1:16:34 – 1:16:35] Erik: You’ve left me wanting…
[1:16:36 – 1:16:36] Erik: I want more.
[1:16:37 – 1:16:38] Erik: You’ve left me wanting more.
[1:16:38 – 1:16:39] Erik: What is going on?
[1:16:39 – 1:16:40] Erik: Nope.
[1:16:40 – 1:16:42] Erik: Martial arts and other things?
[1:16:42 – 1:16:42] Erik: The end.
[1:16:43 – 1:16:45] Erik: Does this guy have, like, tater tots in his pocket?
[1:16:46 – 1:16:48] Erik: How is he from Oklahoma and…
[1:16:48 – 1:16:49] Erik: Throwing stars.
[1:16:49 – 1:16:50] Erik: There must… Yeah.
[1:16:51 – 1:16:52] Erik: There must be another…
[1:16:53 – 1:16:56] Erik: Four to eight sentences missing.
[1:16:58 – 1:17:02] Erik: I trained at the local gym doing some martial arts and other things.
[1:17:02 – 1:17:02] Erik: That’s this.
[1:17:03 – 1:17:04] Erik: There’s three.
[1:17:05 – 1:17:06] Erik: No, there’s two sentences.
[1:17:06 – 1:17:07] Erik: Local gym.
[1:17:08 – 1:17:10] Erik: The local gym gets a shout out.
[1:17:10 – 1:17:12] Adam: They have one gym in Oklahoma.
[1:17:13 – 1:17:16] Erik: Oh, what inspired you to start running sled dogs and how old were you when you started?
[1:17:16 – 1:17:20] Erik: I worked in Alaska doing glacier sled dog tours when I was 20.
[1:17:21 – 1:17:21] Adam: Okay.
[1:17:22 – 1:17:24] Adam: So that makes a little bit more sense.
[1:17:24 – 1:17:25] Erik: Some information.
[1:17:25 – 1:17:26] SPEAKER_02: What kind of martial arts though?
[1:17:27 – 1:17:28] Erik: I don’t know.
[1:17:28 – 1:17:33] Adam: I dare you to dress up in a Taekwondo outfit on Tuesday.
[1:17:33 – 1:17:36] Erik: I looked into doing that glacier dog sledding tour stuff.
[1:17:36 – 1:17:36] Adam: Oh, yeah?
[1:17:36 – 1:17:37] Adam: It’s just like an absolute nightmare.
[1:17:37 – 1:17:38] Adam: I bet.
[1:17:38 – 1:17:44] Erik: You just go around in a circle eight times a day with a bunch of Asian tourists that roll in on cruise ships.
[1:17:44 – 1:17:45] Adam: Yeah.
[1:17:45 – 1:17:46] Erik: It’s just horrible.
[1:17:47 – 1:17:50] Erik: The dogs just like talk about like that.
[1:17:50 – 1:17:53] Erik: You might as well just put those dogs in solitary confinement.
[1:17:53 – 1:17:55] Erik: They’re just put, they’re put on the same track.
[1:17:55 – 1:18:02] Erik: They go around in a circle and I come back and I get another person on the back and they go around again.
[1:18:03 – 1:18:11] Erik: And they do that all day, every day, for however long the cruise ship season is up on the glaciers in Alaska.
[1:18:11 – 1:18:14] Adam: Carving a track into the glacier.
[1:18:14 – 1:18:14] Erik: Yep.
[1:18:14 – 1:18:15] Erik: That’s it.
[1:18:15 – 1:18:15] Erik: That’s it.
[1:18:15 – 1:18:16] Erik: That’s all it is.
[1:18:17 – 1:18:20] Adam: You got to go to the local gym and get some martial arts in after that.
[1:18:20 – 1:18:21] Adam: Yeah.
[1:18:21 – 1:18:21] Adam: That’s the only way.
[1:18:21 – 1:18:23] Adam: Just to numb the mind up a little.
[1:18:23 – 1:18:24] Erik: Also a great name, though.
[1:18:25 – 1:18:25] Erik: Redmond Glisson.
[1:18:26 – 1:18:26] Erik: Glisson.
[1:18:26 – 1:18:27] Adam: Glisson.
[1:18:27 – 1:18:31] Adam: I think that’s the bad guy from Beauty and the Beast.
[1:18:33 – 1:18:34] Erik: He kind of looks like it.
[1:18:34 – 1:18:35] Erik: Yeah, look at him.
[1:18:37 – 1:18:38] Adam: Yeah, he looks like he’s carrying a musket.
[1:18:40 – 1:18:43] Adam: He’s going to go take out the town crazy inventor.
[1:18:44 – 1:18:45] Erik: Hiding a musket somewhere.
[1:18:45 – 1:18:49] Adam: Win over his daughter and imprison her in a castle.
[1:18:50 – 1:18:51] Erik: Oh, Alice White’s in it again.
[1:18:51 – 1:18:55] Erik: So that’ll guarantee that we’re out there five hours longer than we need to be.
[1:18:56 – 1:18:59] Adam: Alice White will be there in 10th place in the money.
[1:18:59 – 1:19:00] Erik: What does that mean?
[1:19:01 – 1:19:02] Adam: A little mean, Eric.
[1:19:03 – 1:19:05] Adam: Alice White’s doing her best.
[1:19:07 – 1:19:09] Erik: Red Lantern champion.
[1:19:09 – 1:19:20] Adam: That’s the problem with being in the dark at Pronto is we’ve never been able to properly give out a prize for Red Lantern because we don’t know that you’re the Red Lantern when you’re the Red Lantern.
[1:19:21 – 1:19:26] Adam: Although this year I will have the satellite phone, but I don’t really have any plans for people giving me updates on it.
[1:19:27 – 1:19:30] Adam: I’m not going to sit there being manually connected to the satellite the whole time.
[1:19:30 – 1:19:34] Adam: It’s for emergency use only.
[1:19:34 – 1:19:36] Adam: Take two steps to the left, please.
[1:19:37 – 1:19:37] Adam: You’re connected.
[1:19:38 – 1:19:42] Adam: Alice White is our final musher on the show with a nice picture of a pup.
[1:19:43 – 1:19:45] Erik: Pretty typical coming in last place.
[1:19:45 – 1:19:45] Erik: Yeah.
[1:19:45 – 1:19:46] Adam: Yeah.
[1:19:49 – 1:19:59] Adam: Adrian’s cousin runs with Alice and ran some dogs from Team Wolf Moon in the Wolf Track last weekend and did pretty well, Eric.
[1:20:01 – 1:20:06] Adam: Alice grew up in Georgia and moved to Minnesota when I was 19 to pursue working with sled dogs.
[1:20:06 – 1:20:10] Adam: I currently have a small kennel of Siberian and Alaskan Huskies.
[1:20:10 – 1:20:19] Adam: I’m a lifelong animal lover and outdoor enthusiast and have been working as a vet tech at the Ely Veterinarian Clinic for over 10 years.
[1:20:19 – 1:20:26] Adam: I have run multiple Bear Grease 120s and various other mid-distance races across the lower 48 for Team Wolf Moon.
[1:20:26 – 1:20:28] SPEAKER_02: Howl, howl, howl.
[1:20:29 – 1:20:30] Adam: No websites are listed.
[1:20:31 – 1:20:34] Adam: I have a lifelong interest in sled dogs and mushing.
[1:20:35 – 1:20:41] Adam: I got my first Husky when I was 11 and started out dry land mushing and did a lot of scootering and bike joring.
[1:20:41 – 1:20:41] Adam: All right.
[1:20:41 – 1:20:42] Adam: Bikes.
[1:20:43 – 1:20:44] Adam: Hashtag bikes.
[1:20:45 – 1:20:51] Adam: Ultimately, I came to Minnesota and handled for Manitou Crossing Kennels for several years before branching off to build my own team.
[1:20:51 – 1:20:52] Adam: There you go.
[1:20:53 – 1:20:53] Adam: The Freckings?
[1:20:54 – 1:20:54] Adam: There you go.
[1:20:54 – 1:20:55] Adam: The Freckings.
[1:20:56 – 1:20:57] Adam: They’re quite the mentor.
[1:20:58 – 1:21:00] Adam: There you go.
[1:21:00 – 1:21:03] Adam: I think I had Atlas on my Fantasy Bear Grease team the last time.
[1:21:03 – 1:21:05] Adam: Fantasy Bear Grease was a thing.
[1:21:05 – 1:21:06] Adam: That’s your field.
[1:21:07 – 1:21:08] Erik: That’s the field.
[1:21:08 – 1:21:09] Adam: How are we doing?
[1:21:09 – 1:21:12] Adam: Do you have any picks for who’s going to win?
[1:21:12 – 1:21:20] Adam: We have two former champs in the race out of 14 teams, and I don’t know.
[1:21:20 – 1:21:26] Adam: I got like three or four teams I feel like are going to be there at the end.
[1:21:28 – 1:21:28] SPEAKER_02: But who knows, though?
[1:21:29 – 1:21:32] Adam: Leanne Church just seems like a real wild card.
[1:21:32 – 1:21:34] Adam: Redmond Glison, nobody knows.
[1:21:35 – 1:21:36] Adam: They’ve got a bunch of rookies this year.
[1:21:38 – 1:21:39] Adam: Maybe this is your Colleen wins one.
[1:21:40 – 1:21:41] Adam: Yeah.
[1:21:41 – 1:21:48] Adam: There’s a lot of teams in here who have been perennially in the top five, like Colleen and Aaron Altimus.
[1:21:49 – 1:21:50] Adam: Yeah.
[1:21:50 – 1:21:56] Adam: In a warm year where there’s not a ton of veteran mushers in the field.
[1:21:56 – 1:21:56] Adam: Yeah.
[1:21:58 – 1:22:01] Adam: You know, any year, it could be your year.
[1:22:02 – 1:22:03] Adam: Aaron Ailey is one.
[1:22:05 – 1:22:06] Adam: Nathan Schroeder’s got four.
[1:22:08 – 1:22:15] Adam: It would be quite the story to see Nathan Schroeder come back and win one after quite the – he’s in a drought right now, but he’s been there a lot.
[1:22:16 – 1:22:17] Adam: Right there at the end.
[1:22:19 – 1:22:25] Adam: Leon Church seems to be taken seriously, and I feel like Jesse Terry might be the secret favorite of them all.
[1:22:25 – 1:22:26] Erik: Sure.
[1:22:26 – 1:22:33] Adam: After a third-place finish at the UConn Quest, if you can take third at the UConn Quest and go up against Jesse Royer like that,
[1:22:36 – 1:22:39] Adam: I think he’s got a real good chance.
[1:22:40 – 1:22:40] Erik: Yeah, I don’t know.
[1:22:40 – 1:22:42] Erik: I don’t have any real strong feelings about anybody.
[1:22:43 – 1:22:47] Erik: I’d like to see some of the people that are more local do well, but
[1:22:48 – 1:22:49] Adam: I don’t think there’s a huge favorite.
[1:22:49 – 1:22:57] Adam: I think what we always come away from these things feeling is that we just wish that we got to see more dog teams at the end of the day.
[1:22:57 – 1:23:09] Adam: That’s part of the formula of setting up at mile 255 is you just know inherently by choosing that as your spot for camp that you’re not going to get to see every team.
[1:23:10 – 1:23:16] Adam: There’s never going to be a year where everybody that starts makes it to mile 255 because pretty much if you make it that far, you’re going to finish.
[1:23:17 – 1:23:24] Adam: There’s only been one person who’s ever gotten a corndog and not finished the race, and it’s not going to happen very often.
[1:23:24 – 1:23:29] Adam: But you know sitting up there, you’re not going to get to see every one of these teams.
[1:23:30 – 1:23:32] Adam: And you do sort of hype yourself up sometimes.
[1:23:32 – 1:23:35] Adam: Like, I can’t wait to see Leon Church.
[1:23:39 – 1:23:40] Adam: I can tell Eric’s excited.
[1:23:40 – 1:23:43] Erik: Fading past on this whole conversation.
[1:23:43 – 1:23:47] Erik: But when you said Terry Church or Jesse, who?
[1:23:47 – 1:23:49] Adam: Yeah, can’t wait to meet him.
[1:23:49 – 1:23:50] Erik: I’m locked in.
[1:23:50 – 1:23:54] Adam: We’re going to throw a bush light into your sled bag on Tuesday.
[1:23:55 – 1:24:01] Adam: And then you get up on Tuesday morning, go out there, and it’s like, oh, these three teams scratched overnight.
[1:24:01 – 1:24:03] Adam: Two hours while I was sleeping somehow.
[1:24:04 – 1:24:24] Adam: that is always like a part of the race that’s a bummer but you know but then you get out there and the teams that make it there you know they just yeah you know it’s a wonderful thing to see so uh one of them can’t wait one of the better things i’ve seen so far is they also have musher descriptions for the bear grease 120 the bear grease 40 yeah and i just clicked into uh
[1:24:25 – 1:24:46] Erik: matt schmidt’s profile oh okay matthew carl schmidt matthew carl schmidt which is funny like well he just now got a middle name yeah after five years ten years of mushing he’s like you know what i need to add my middle name in the bio who is uh aaron ultimus’s partner they run the same dogs from the same kennel yeah
[1:24:47 – 1:25:07] Erik: and his there’s no picture the description is I live with my wife and daughter and 30 dogs near Graham Ray Minnesota Sawtooth Mountain Racing website all that but then what inspired you to start running sled dogs and how old were you when you started my wife was running dogs and I was trying to date her
[1:25:11 – 1:25:30] Erik: yeah it worked clearly worked yeah very very suave 20 years later hey uh i like dogs tell me show me these dogs yeah i like dogs can we date now you
[1:25:33 – 1:25:35] Adam: That’s a very romantic story.
[1:25:35 – 1:25:35] Adam: I love it.
[1:25:36 – 1:25:40] Erik: It’s a very northern Minnesota tale of love.
[1:25:43 – 1:25:43] Erik: Yeah.
[1:25:43 – 1:25:45] Erik: That’s wonderful.
[1:25:45 – 1:25:50] Erik: I am looking forward to it, although it may not sound like it in my voice right now.
[1:25:51 – 1:25:51] Erik: It’s just.
[1:25:52 – 1:25:57] Adam: I can’t wait to pick you up in the middle of the night on Tuesday, and we’re going down there, setting them up.
[1:25:58 – 1:26:06] Adam: And, yeah, we got some strategy, too, to figure out as far as how we’re going to be growing up the feast, what the menu is going to be.
[1:26:06 – 1:26:08] Adam: I got the signage.
[1:26:08 – 1:26:16] Adam: I did send you a preview of the hang in there cat corn dog sign has been reincarnated and laminated.
[1:26:16 – 1:26:17] Erik: Very good.
[1:26:17 – 1:26:18] Erik: Kind of spooky, but good.
[1:26:18 – 1:26:42] Adam: yeah so i’m pretty excited for that eyes also do not kind of shaped like a corn dog it is a corn dog a couple of looks to catch yeah uh so we’re all set and like we’re a well-oiled machine at this point with getting out there and setting up pronto so again if anybody’s listening to this somehow on sunday and uh you know you’re thinking to yourself this sounds like fun just come on out
[1:26:42 – 1:26:48] Adam: Listen to the last three or four pronto episodes to try and dial in where we’re actually sitting.
[1:26:48 – 1:26:49] Adam: Quit your job.
[1:26:49 – 1:26:51] Adam: Out there on mile 255.
[1:26:51 – 1:26:52] Adam: Quit your job and come on up.
[1:26:52 – 1:26:53] Adam: We’ll be there.
[1:26:53 – 1:26:54] Erik: Start driving north.
[1:26:55 – 1:26:55] Erik: Right now.
[1:26:55 – 1:26:57] Erik: Just get on the Discord.
[1:26:57 – 1:26:59] Erik: We’ll give you exact detailed directions as to where we are.
[1:27:00 – 1:27:00] Erik: There you go.
[1:27:01 – 1:27:02] Erik: Yeah, hit us up on the Discord.
[1:27:03 – 1:27:03] Erik: All right.
[1:27:03 – 1:27:07] Adam: Well, Bear Grylls 40, the Quattro Quattro.
[1:27:07 – 1:27:08] Adam: Quattro Quattro.
[1:27:08 – 1:27:08] Adam: Get in here.
[1:27:10 – 1:27:10] Adam: Get some.
[1:27:11 – 1:27:11] Erik: Get in here.
[1:27:11 – 1:27:12] Erik: Get some.
[1:27:12 – 1:27:14] Erik: Yeah, it’s going to be good.
[1:27:14 – 1:27:19] Erik: We’ll, I’m sure, be back next week with some audio from the field.
[1:27:19 – 1:27:19] Erik: Can’t wait.
[1:27:19 – 1:27:21] Erik: My God, it’s all happening.
[1:27:21 – 1:27:27] Erik: It’s been two years for you, over three years for me.
[1:27:27 – 1:27:29] Adam: Hopefully nobody gets run over by the groomer this year.
[1:27:29 – 1:27:39] Erik: Yeah, hopefully nobody gets run over, mildly nicked, an arm gets taken off by the groomer as they nap in the Sub-Zero.
[1:27:39 – 1:27:40] Erik: It shouldn’t be Sub-Zero this year.
[1:27:41 – 1:27:43] Adam: That’s how you get the sequined mittens.
[1:27:44 – 1:27:44] Adam: Yes.
[1:27:44 – 1:27:46] Adam: To cover up your bionic hand.
[1:27:46 – 1:27:47] Erik: Bionic hand.
[1:27:47 – 1:27:49] Erik: Hey!
[1:27:49 – 1:27:52] Erik: Yeah, I think that’s it for Bear Grylls.
[1:27:52 – 1:27:53] Erik: We’re going to get out of here in just a second.
[1:27:54 – 1:27:56] Adam: All right, we got to talk about episode 10 of Alone.
[1:27:56 – 1:28:03] Erik: We’re coming up with, yeah, we got the penultimate episode of Tumble Alone.
[1:28:04 – 1:28:05] Erik: We’re getting down there.
[1:28:05 – 1:28:06] Adam: It’s incredible.
[1:28:06 – 1:28:07] Erik: What a ride.
[1:28:07 – 1:28:08] Erik: Four contestants left.
[1:28:09 – 1:28:11] Adam: But before we get into that, though.
[1:28:12 – 1:28:12] Adam: What?
[1:28:13 – 1:28:15] Adam: We got the question of the week.
[1:28:15 – 1:28:17] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[1:28:17 – 1:28:18] Erik: We got to post this question of the week.
[1:28:18 – 1:28:22] Erik: Well, this is just the tip of the iceberg for teasing.
[1:28:22 – 1:28:23] Erik: Yeah.
[1:28:23 – 1:28:24] Erik: But we’ll mention it here.
[1:28:24 – 1:28:26] Erik: If anybody’s still listening.
[1:28:26 – 1:28:31] Adam: Oh, there’s at least 10 to 14 mushers still listening to this episode.
[1:28:31 – 1:28:32] Erik: All the mushers are listening?
[1:28:32 – 1:28:32] Erik: Yeah.
[1:28:32 – 1:28:34] Erik: What do these guys have to say about us?
[1:28:34 – 1:28:35] Adam: Rhonda Hirschkamp’s mad.
[1:28:35 – 1:28:37] Adam: She’s typing into the text right now.
[1:28:37 – 1:28:39] Adam: She’s mad I mispronounced her name.
[1:28:39 – 1:28:40] Erik: Yeah, I’m so mad.
[1:28:40 – 1:28:42] Erik: I’m sure it’s the first time anybody has mispronounced her name.
[1:28:42 – 1:28:47] Erik: Yeah, so we’re… Let’s hear Champ.
[1:28:48 – 1:28:50] Adam: We got two more weeks.
[1:28:50 – 1:28:51] Adam: Two more weeks of Tumble…
[1:28:51 – 1:28:52] Adam: Put some respect on that name, Eric.
[1:28:52 – 1:28:55] Erik: Tumble-lo-ney.
[1:28:55 – 1:28:57] SPEAKER_02: Tumble-lo-ney.
[1:28:57 – 1:28:59] Erik: Two more weeks of Tumbalone on the TCC.
[1:28:59 – 1:29:00] Erik: $5 a month.
[1:29:01 – 1:29:02] Erik: My God.
[1:29:02 – 1:29:03] Erik: You can follow along with us.
[1:29:04 – 1:29:06] Erik: And it’s not going to end when we end the Tumbalone.
[1:29:06 – 1:29:08] Erik: We’re moving into sub-month.
[1:29:08 – 1:29:09] Adam: Subs.
[1:29:09 – 1:29:10] Erik: It’s sub-month.
[1:29:10 – 1:29:11] Adam: We’re not talking sandwiches.
[1:29:11 – 1:29:14] Erik: We’ve talked about how we’ve wanted to do this.
[1:29:14 – 1:29:14] Erik: Yes.
[1:29:15 – 1:29:16] Erik: And sub-month is coming.
[1:29:17 – 1:29:17] Erik: And…
[1:29:20 – 1:29:21] Adam: I can’t believe sub-month is coming.
[1:29:21 – 1:29:22] Erik: Sub-month is coming.
[1:29:23 – 1:29:25] Erik: February can’t end fast enough, Eric.
[1:29:25 – 1:29:26] Erik: Exactly.
[1:29:27 – 1:29:42] Erik: And because of our main man, our main guy, Mr. Hackman, who did die tragically rescuing his family from the wreckage of a destroyed sinking battleship this last week, we’re going to start sub-month with Crimson Tide.
[1:29:43 – 1:29:43] Adam: Absolutely.
[1:29:44 – 1:29:45] Erik: Can’t wait for that.
[1:29:45 – 1:29:48] Erik: So we’re finishing up the TCC.
[1:29:48 – 1:29:51] Adam: Subs are just like big boats that go under the water.
[1:29:52 – 1:29:52] Adam: Essentially, yeah.
[1:29:52 – 1:29:54] Adam: They’re the biggest of boats.
[1:29:54 – 1:29:55] Erik: Biggest of boats that can go…
[1:29:56 – 1:29:57] Adam: Three-dimensional boats.
[1:29:58 – 1:29:59] Erik: Yeah, it’s a 4D boat.
[1:30:00 – 1:30:00] Adam: Sick.
[1:30:00 – 1:30:01] Adam: Sick.
[1:30:01 – 1:30:04] Adam: This is like the Large Hadron Collider of canoes.
[1:30:04 – 1:30:08] Erik: Yeah, so Gene Hackman, Crimson Tide coming probably in a couple weeks.
[1:30:08 – 1:30:12] Erik: We’re going to finish up the Tumbaloney, and then who knows where we’re going to go from there.
[1:30:12 – 1:30:13] Erik: We’ve talked about this.
[1:30:14 – 1:30:14] Erik: U-571.
[1:30:14 – 1:30:15] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[1:30:15 – 1:30:16] Erik: That’s a boat.
[1:30:16 – 1:30:17] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[1:30:17 – 1:30:18] Erik: Hunt for the Red October.
[1:30:18 – 1:30:19] Erik: You’ve got to do Hunt for the Red October.
[1:30:19 – 1:30:20] Erik: There’s so many sub-movies.
[1:30:21 – 1:30:22] Erik: Why are we doing sub-movies?
[1:30:22 – 1:30:23] Erik: I don’t remember.
[1:30:24 – 1:30:25] Erik: But we’re doing it.
[1:30:25 – 1:30:26] Adam: Promises kept.
[1:30:27 – 1:30:28] Adam: Promises kept.
[1:30:28 – 1:30:28] Adam: Shut up.
[1:30:29 – 1:30:31] Adam: Always keep our promises here on Tumbalone.
[1:30:32 – 1:30:37] Erik: And then, yeah, moving forward, I got an email from David, who, if you’re still listening.
[1:30:37 – 1:30:38] Erik: If that’s your real name.
[1:30:38 – 1:30:41] Erik: If that’s your real name, since it sounds made up.
[1:30:43 – 1:30:49] Erik: He was asking a pretty, I think, a question that has come and gone regularly on this show.
[1:30:49 – 1:30:52] Erik: I feel like we’ve touched on it multiple times.
[1:30:52 – 1:30:57] Erik: We’ve probably spoken towards it at length, but we’re going to boil it all down.
[1:30:58 – 1:31:01] Erik: Essentially, he’s got a group of Boy Scouts from the South coming.
[1:31:01 – 1:31:06] Erik: He’s kind of been a Boundary Waters paddler in the past, but it’s been like 20 plus years.
[1:31:07 – 1:31:09] Erik: But he’s got a bunch of boys from the South and they want to slaughter fish.
[1:31:10 – 1:31:12] Erik: Five lures.
[1:31:13 – 1:31:15] Erik: If you can only bring five, what are you bringing?
[1:31:16 – 1:31:17] Erik: Lure anchors.
[1:31:17 – 1:31:17] Erik: Lure.
[1:31:18 – 1:31:23] Erik: So it’s going to be, it’s a, I immediately was like, oh, we can just answer this question.
[1:31:23 – 1:31:23] Erik: Right.
[1:31:23 – 1:31:25] Erik: In like a 10 minute quick conversation.
[1:31:26 – 1:31:30] Erik: But then I was just like, I don’t know, we’re creeping up on tourney season.
[1:31:31 – 1:31:31] Erik: We are.
[1:31:32 – 1:31:35] Erik: March Madness, tumble tourney.
[1:31:35 – 1:31:46] Erik: So I think I’m going to turn it… We are going to turn it into a question of the week, and then we’re going to take those responses, and we might build, depending on how many…
[1:31:48 – 1:31:48] Erik: Lures.
[1:31:48 – 1:31:52] Erik: How many lure applicants we get, we’ll turn it into attorney.
[1:31:52 – 1:31:54] Adam: The committee is curious.
[1:31:54 – 1:31:55] Adam: The committee is curious.
[1:31:55 – 1:31:58] Erik: There’s no dead set number limit.
[1:31:59 – 1:32:00] Erik: 16.
[1:32:00 – 1:32:02] Erik: We know how tournaments work.
[1:32:02 – 1:32:04] Erik: It’s got to be like an even number.
[1:32:04 – 1:32:05] Erik: 16, 32.
[1:32:05 – 1:32:05] Erik: I don’t know.
[1:32:06 – 1:32:07] Erik: 64 might be pushing it.
[1:32:07 – 1:32:08] Erik: We’re bracketologists.
[1:32:08 – 1:32:11] Erik: We might be able to scrape the bottom of the barrel for a 16.
[1:32:11 – 1:32:16] Erik: What would a 16 seed be for lures of a- A rusty squirrely grub.
[1:32:17 – 1:32:17] UNKNOWN: Yeah.
[1:32:18 – 1:32:19] Erik: I don’t even know what that is.
[1:32:19 – 1:32:22] Erik: That’s why it’s a 16 seed, Eric.
[1:32:22 – 1:32:26] Erik: What would you seed in a 64-team tournament of Boss Boss?
[1:32:28 – 1:32:28] Adam: That’s a solid eight.
[1:32:29 – 1:32:29] Adam: Eight?
[1:32:29 – 1:32:31] Erik: Yeah, eight, nine, ten, somewhere in there.
[1:32:31 – 1:32:38] Adam: They should have won their conference, but they didn’t take the conference championship seriously.
[1:32:38 – 1:32:39] Erik: Didn’t take it seriously enough.
[1:32:39 – 1:32:42] Adam: And they squeaked in as an eight seed, but they’re still a Moss Boss.
[1:32:42 – 1:32:44] Erik: You don’t want to meet them in the first round.
[1:32:44 – 1:32:46] Erik: Yeah, also depends on where they’re playing.
[1:32:46 – 1:32:51] Erik: You’re not going to pitch a Moss Boss out on Mountain Lake, but hey, if you’re… Oh, you’re in the lily pads?
[1:32:51 – 1:32:57] Erik: Yeah, if you’re trapped out on… What’s that horrible lake north of Kawishawi?
[1:32:57 – 1:32:57] Erik: It’s just…
[1:32:58 – 1:32:58] Erik: Square?
[1:32:58 – 1:32:59] Erik: Yeah.
[1:32:59 – 1:32:59] Adam: Baskatong.
[1:32:59 – 1:33:00] Erik: Baskatong.
[1:33:00 – 1:33:05] Adam: Yeah, if you’re out there on Baskatong getting whipped by a Pagami Creek.
[1:33:05 – 1:33:06] Erik: Yeah.
[1:33:06 – 1:33:07] Erik: Yeah, the flames are encroaching.
[1:33:07 – 1:33:09] Adam: The flames are pushing you out to sea in your kayak.
[1:33:10 – 1:33:10] Adam: Yeah.
[1:33:10 – 1:33:11] Adam: You’re going to want to whip a moss boss.
[1:33:11 – 1:33:12] Erik: Yeah, exactly.
[1:33:12 – 1:33:13] Adam: Then it’s a five.
[1:33:14 – 1:33:14] Erik: Then it’s a five.
[1:33:15 – 1:33:16] Erik: It depends on the territory.
[1:33:17 – 1:33:19] Adam: Strong strength of schedule in that setting.
[1:33:20 – 1:33:28] Erik: So we’re obviously going to finish up our conversations on the events at hand, the bear grease, as it were.
[1:33:28 – 1:33:34] Erik: But just keep your eyes peeled onto all the places where your eyes should be peeled.
[1:33:34 – 1:33:37] Erik: And you’ll see some things coming down the line here.
[1:33:37 – 1:33:40] Erik: We’re looking forward to an exciting tournament of some sort.
[1:33:41 – 1:33:42] Erik: You are the committee.
[1:33:42 – 1:33:44] Adam: And, of course, we need your help seeding these.
[1:33:45 – 1:33:57] Erik: We’re all the committee this year and leave it to us to take a one sentence question and turn it into a multiple month extravaganza.
[1:33:57 – 1:33:58] Adam: That’s the way it’s the most fun.
[1:33:59 – 1:34:07] Erik: that will probably have these poor young souls from Missouri or wherever they’re coming even more confused than before they started.
[1:34:07 – 1:34:12] Adam: But if they stick around, at least to the Final Four, they’re going to come up with some really good ideas on what they should be throwing.
[1:34:13 – 1:34:28] Adam: But as long as it’s not a huge hunk of metal that was whittled into a spoon that has been lasso-tossed into Great Slave Lake by Amos, then they’re probably going to be pretty pleased with the answers.
[1:34:28 – 1:34:28] Erik: I think so.
[1:34:28 – 1:34:30] Erik: I mean, it’s going to be…
[1:34:30 – 1:34:33] Erik: I think the whole ride is going to be a great help.
[1:34:34 – 1:34:37] Erik: And we’ll hammer out the details.
[1:34:37 – 1:34:40] Erik: I’m thinking, based on the question…
[1:34:41 – 1:34:43] Erik: We should limit it to lures.
[1:34:43 – 1:34:44] Erik: Just some artificials.
[1:34:45 – 1:34:46] Adam: I agree.
[1:34:46 – 1:34:46] Erik: You know.
[1:34:46 – 1:34:47] Erik: Yeah.
[1:34:47 – 1:34:48] Erik: Nobody can come at you.
[1:34:48 – 1:34:49] Erik: Slip bobber has already been.
[1:34:49 – 1:34:50] Adam: Jig with a minnow.
[1:34:50 – 1:34:51] Adam: No way.
[1:34:51 – 1:34:51] Adam: Okay.
[1:34:51 – 1:34:52] Adam: That’s a different.
[1:34:52 – 1:34:54] Adam: Slip bobber reg was already in the tournament.
[1:34:54 – 1:34:54] Adam: Yeah.
[1:34:54 – 1:34:55] Adam: They had their chance.
[1:34:55 – 1:34:58] Erik: It’s the middle of the winter.
[1:35:00 – 1:35:01] Erik: It’s supposed to be a little chilly.
[1:35:01 – 1:35:03] Erik: It’s supposed to be a little cold still this weekend.
[1:35:03 – 1:35:05] Adam: Some people look at seed catalogs.
[1:35:05 – 1:35:07] Adam: I like to look at lure catalogs, Eric.
[1:35:07 – 1:35:14] Erik: I was going to say, maybe if you’re a little cold, got nothing better to do this Sunday afternoon after you’re listening to this and you need a little refresher.
[1:35:15 – 1:35:15] Erik: Yeah.
[1:35:16 – 1:35:18] Adam: Kick back on the ice, Davenport, with a lure.
[1:35:18 – 1:35:24] Erik: Or just take a drive down your local farm and fleet or fleet farm and take a couple of strides down those aisles.
[1:35:25 – 1:35:26] Erik: My God.
[1:35:26 – 1:35:27] Erik: It’s like Christmas in March, Eric.
[1:35:27 – 1:35:30] Adam: So many lures you’ve never even imagined.
[1:35:31 – 1:35:32] Adam: That is some madness.
[1:35:32 – 1:35:33] Erik: That is some madness.
[1:35:33 – 1:35:34] Erik: So we’re looking forward to that.
[1:35:35 – 1:35:37] Erik: It’s going to be an exciting spring.
[1:35:37 – 1:35:42] Erik: And then by gummit, before you know it, water’s going to be soft again.
[1:35:42 – 1:35:44] Erik: We’re all going to be out there bobbing, floating.
[1:35:44 – 1:35:46] Adam: I’m going to be out there not catching any steelhead for sure.
[1:35:46 – 1:35:47] Adam: I can’t wait.
[1:35:47 – 1:35:52] Erik: The vape juice is going to be flowing like the salmon of Saginaw.
[1:35:52 – 1:35:53] Erik: I’m going to be soaked.
[1:35:54 – 1:35:55] Erik: Soaked in vape juice.
[1:35:55 – 1:36:02] Erik: I’m going to be soaked in red man spit just spittling down my chin.
[1:36:02 – 1:36:03] Erik: The breeze.
[1:36:05 – 1:36:05] Erik: I can’t wait.
[1:36:05 – 1:36:11] Adam: Yeah, you sound like Borg Gullerson over there running into Pinto hard.
[1:36:11 – 1:36:15] Erik: Running it into Pinto a little too hard, but that’s what the whip’s for.
[1:36:15 – 1:36:16] Erik: That’s right.
[1:36:16 – 1:36:16] Erik: Yeah.
[1:36:17 – 1:36:19] Erik: Bust out that whip.
[1:36:19 – 1:36:19] Erik: Yeah.
[1:36:20 – 1:36:21] Erik: I’m excited for that.
[1:36:21 – 1:36:22] Erik: I’m excited for this.
[1:36:22 – 1:36:28] Erik: I keep saying this weekend, but it is like, it’s like kind of like a post weekend, like this weekend.
[1:36:28 – 1:36:28] Erik: Is this weekend?
[1:36:28 – 1:36:29] Adam: Well, it starts on Sunday.
[1:36:30 – 1:36:33] Erik: It’s Tuesday, Monday, Tuesday, kind of.
[1:36:33 – 1:36:36] Erik: So it’s like a post post weekend, but it’s great.
[1:36:36 – 1:36:38] Adam: It means it’s only like a two day work week.
[1:36:38 – 1:36:40] Erik: Excited for that.
[1:36:40 – 1:36:55] Erik: Excited for getting into some lure chat, which just brings about all of the conjurings of open water castings towards the most beautiful, perfect rock that you’ve ever seen propped up next to a little downed piece of cedar.
[1:36:55 – 1:37:00] Erik: There just has to be a 20-inch bass sitting under there, gleaming light coming through the trees.
[1:37:01 – 1:37:01] Erik: My God.
[1:37:02 – 1:37:06] Adam: And then by next week, we’re going to be pretty much halfway through March.
[1:37:06 – 1:37:09] Adam: You’re going to want to go ahead and throw a tally whacker in there.
[1:37:09 – 1:37:12] Erik: Yeah, I can’t wait to learn about some insane Georgian lures.
[1:37:12 – 1:37:15] SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that’s the other thing is lures have the craziest names.
[1:37:15 – 1:37:15] SPEAKER_02: Yes.
[1:37:16 – 1:37:19] Adam: So it’s just going to be inherently hilarious.
[1:37:19 – 1:37:20] Erik: The crazier the name, the better.
[1:37:20 – 1:37:21] Erik: That might just bump up.
[1:37:21 – 1:37:25] Erik: Just like some light lure gravitas just based on the name.
[1:37:26 – 1:37:30] Erik: So we’ll throw in a couple of hours into the hat, but this is going to be a group effort, everybody.
[1:37:31 – 1:37:35] Erik: Probably going to post the question towards that shortly after this is up.
[1:37:36 – 1:37:42] Erik: But in the meantime, yeah, if you want to join us, just, yeah, jump on Discord.
[1:37:42 – 1:37:44] Erik: Message us, either of us directly.
[1:37:44 – 1:37:45] Erik: We’ll give you directions.
[1:37:46 – 1:37:48] Erik: There’s a couple of days in between when this is going to be up.
[1:37:48 – 1:37:50] Adam: I’ll shoot you a map with a pin.
[1:37:50 – 1:37:51] Erik: Yeah, a map with a pin.
[1:37:52 – 1:37:54] Erik: Maybe we might need some supplies by then even.
[1:37:55 – 1:37:56] Adam: It’s pretty easy, yeah.
[1:37:56 – 1:37:57] Adam: And you can text me on the satellite.
[1:37:58 – 1:37:59] Adam: We’re low on mustard.
[1:38:01 – 1:38:02] Adam: We’re all on mushrooms.
[1:38:02 – 1:38:03] Adam: Better go steal them from a squirrel.
[1:38:04 – 1:38:05] Erik: Oh, God.
[1:38:05 – 1:38:07] Erik: Yeah, well, we’re going to get into that next.
[1:38:07 – 1:38:14] Erik: We’re closing out this season of Alone, closing out this episode of 281, actual Tumalone.
[1:38:14 – 1:38:16] Erik: Thank you for being here.
[1:38:16 – 1:38:22] Erik: Thank you for the Fargo Brewing Company, Defunct Brews.
[1:38:22 – 1:38:27] Erik: We’re going to keep a couple of these in the cupboard just for accruing value because they don’t…
[1:38:27 – 1:38:28] Adam: They’re going in the vault.
[1:38:29 – 1:38:35] Erik: Yeah, next to the Billy beers and what’s the clear Pepsi?
[1:38:36 – 1:38:38] Erik: Yeah, Crystal Pepsi.
[1:38:38 – 1:38:39] Erik: Crystal Pepsi.
[1:38:39 – 1:38:39] Erik: Yeah, yeah.
[1:38:39 – 1:38:40] Erik: What else?
[1:38:40 – 1:38:50] Adam: It’s weird that Fargo Brewing Company went in the safes, and then we also have a safe by Fargo Brewing Company, and now a couple of these beers are going in the Fargo Brewing Company safe company safe?
[1:38:50 – 1:38:50] Erik: Yes.
[1:38:51 – 1:38:59] Erik: What other long-shot canceled food products that we think are going to be worth a lot of money in 20 years do we have in there?
[1:38:59 – 1:39:04] Adam: Eric last week went and bought a whole case of Mrs. Buttersworth.
[1:39:04 – 1:39:06] Erik: They’re going to stop making them in the shape of the lady.
[1:39:06 – 1:39:08] Erik: I can tell you right now.
[1:39:08 – 1:39:10] Adam: And the AK-47 vodka.
[1:39:10 – 1:39:11] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[1:39:11 – 1:39:12] Erik: Tommy gun.
[1:39:12 – 1:39:13] Erik: That’s going in there, too.
[1:39:14 – 1:39:16] Erik: Yeah, we didn’t get to the Tommy gun bottle of vodka.
[1:39:16 – 1:39:17] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[1:39:17 – 1:39:18] Adam: It was a Tommy gun.
[1:39:18 – 1:39:19] Erik: Made it through three moves.
[1:39:23 – 1:39:27] Adam: Yeah, I got that piece of bacon in the shape of an A-10 Warthog.
[1:39:27 – 1:39:29] Erik: Yeah, you freeze-dried that.
[1:39:31 – 1:39:34] Erik: Freeze-dried that, pressed on glass like one of those butterfly displays.
[1:39:35 – 1:39:35] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[1:39:35 – 1:39:36] Erik: Are these alive?
[1:39:38 – 1:39:40] Erik: They’re almost lifelike.
[1:39:40 – 1:39:41] Erik: Almost lifelike.
[1:39:42 – 1:39:48] Erik: All right, well, we’re pushing the midnight hour here in Studio V. Thank you for being here.
[1:39:48 – 1:40:02] Erik: Every runner is… Let all the runners be slick this weekend and all the booties not be filled with slush and nair a dog penis get frozen.
[1:40:03 – 1:40:03] Erik: Nair.
[1:40:13 – 1:40:42] SPEAKER_02: Shall walk again All along the lane Yeah, the avenue Just like we used to With our heads high Smiley passing by Yeah, we’ll softly sigh
[1:40:45 – 1:41:13] SPEAKER_02: Ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay Everyone, everyone, everyone Everyone, everyone, everyone Everyone, everyone By the winding stream We shall lay and dream And big dreams come true
[1:41:16 – 1:41:18] SPEAKER_02: You’re free one down too.
[1:41:20 – 1:41:23] SPEAKER_02: It’s overcome.
[1:41:25 – 1:41:28] SPEAKER_02: Play the packs and drums.
[1:41:29 – 1:41:30] SPEAKER_02: It’s like a happy song.
[1:41:34 – 1:41:38] SPEAKER_02: And we’ll sing along.
[1:41:38 – 1:41:47] SPEAKER_02: Everyone, everyone, everyone, everyone, everyone, everyone, everyone, everyone.