017: The Frost River

Episode Transcript

[0:00:34 – 0:00:43] Adam: Welcome to Tumble Home, a Boundary Waters podcast, coming to you live from the special outdoor studio A.
[0:00:44 – 0:00:46] Adam: You may hear the bird noises in the background.
[0:00:46 – 0:00:49] Adam: We are in nature recording.
[0:00:50 – 0:00:51] Adam: My name is Adam.
[0:00:51 – 0:00:55] Adam: With me in studio outdoor A is Eric.
[0:00:56 – 0:00:57] Erik: A2, yes, hello.
[0:00:57 – 0:01:04] Adam: A2, and Tumble Home is brought to you, of course, by Clearwater Historic Lodge and Outfitters.
[0:01:06 – 0:01:08] Adam: And we are here for episode 017.
[0:01:09 – 0:01:13] Adam: We’ll be discussing where people are going.
[0:01:13 – 0:01:14] Adam: The water is open.
[0:01:15 – 0:01:15] Adam: Yes.
[0:01:15 – 0:01:17] Adam: And outfitting is live.
[0:01:18 – 0:01:20] Adam: And people are heading out on trips.
[0:01:20 – 0:01:22] Adam: So it’s that time of year.
[0:01:23 – 0:01:24] Adam: Where are you going for your early season trips?
[0:01:25 – 0:01:29] Adam: Or just in general, where are you going this year in the Boundary Waters?
[0:01:29 – 0:01:33] Adam: We’ll be probably focusing mostly on Frost River here today.
[0:01:34 – 0:01:35] Adam: Well, that’s the next trip you’re taking.
[0:01:35 – 0:01:36] Adam: Yeah.
[0:01:36 – 0:01:41] Adam: A week from today, we will be on our last day of that trip, which is crazy to think about.
[0:01:41 – 0:01:45] Adam: It seems like it’s been months and months away this whole time.
[0:01:45 – 0:01:48] Erik: Yeah, you’ve been talking about getting out on that Frost River for a long time.
[0:01:48 – 0:01:55] Adam: Yeah, I mean, we had the permit real early for that one, and then there’s a lot of worries with if the shoulder’s going to be okay, is the ice going to be gone?
[0:01:55 – 0:01:57] Adam: So everything is looking clear.
[0:01:57 – 0:01:58] Adam: I’m clear.
[0:01:58 – 0:01:59] Adam: I’m off IR.
[0:01:59 – 0:02:03] Adam: Doctors gave me the green light, and the ice is gone.
[0:02:04 – 0:02:06] Adam: So, yeah, that’s coming up in just a few days.
[0:02:06 – 0:02:09] Adam: We’ll be pushing out on Round Lake.
[0:02:09 – 0:02:10] Adam: Very exciting.
[0:02:10 – 0:02:10] Erik: Yeah.
[0:02:10 – 0:02:18] Erik: Well, it’s the first time we’ve ever had an episode that is a route review, more or less.
[0:02:18 – 0:02:20] Erik: I don’t know if it’s necessarily going to be a review, but we’ll walk through it.
[0:02:20 – 0:02:23] Adam: Yeah, and we’re going to mainly focus on the route itself.
[0:02:23 – 0:02:32] Adam: We’ll touch on some of the campsites probably, but we’re not going to like… Yeah, it’s not going to be a… We may at some point in the future do a Tuscarora episode, I would assume, and maybe even like a Frost Lake episode.
[0:02:32 – 0:02:34] Adam: But yeah, I don’t know if we’re ever going to do a Bologna Lake episode.
[0:02:35 – 0:02:38] Adam: So we’ll get to that stuff in this route episode.
[0:02:38 – 0:02:38] Adam: It’s just a…
[0:02:39 – 0:02:40] Adam: Yeah.
[0:02:40 – 0:02:41] Erik: Because it’s your first time.
[0:02:41 – 0:02:42] Erik: I’ve done it a few times.
[0:02:42 – 0:02:43] Adam: Yeah, you’ve done the route a few times.
[0:02:43 – 0:02:45] Adam: I’ve never had the pleasure.
[0:02:45 – 0:02:49] Adam: It’s always been, at least for the last couple of years, on the very top of my list.
[0:02:49 – 0:02:49] Erik: Yeah.
[0:02:50 – 0:02:58] Adam: And just recently, we’ve gotten into jobs where you can actually take a few days off when it’s good to do the Frost River and not just like.
[0:02:58 – 0:03:00] Adam: Hey, go do the fresh river in November.
[0:03:00 – 0:03:01] Adam: Like nobody wants to do that.
[0:03:02 – 0:03:02] Erik: Yeah.
[0:03:02 – 0:03:04] Erik: No, it’s one of my favorite routes up here.
[0:03:04 – 0:03:08] Erik: Uh, we’ll get into the details, but you’re going to have a really good time.
[0:03:08 – 0:03:08] Erik: It’s awesome.
[0:03:09 – 0:03:10] Erik: Before we get too far.
[0:03:10 – 0:03:10] Erik: Yes.
[0:03:11 – 0:03:15] Erik: We are sponsored this week by a very special, very special beer.
[0:03:15 – 0:03:17] Adam: A special beer sponsor.
[0:03:17 – 0:03:20] Erik: Yeah, this is a surprise for you.
[0:03:20 – 0:03:21] Adam: Yeah, I don’t even know what it is yet.
[0:03:21 – 0:03:23] Adam: You just said we have a special guest sponsor.
[0:03:23 – 0:03:24] Erik: Yeah, special guest sponsor.
[0:03:24 – 0:03:25] Erik: I’m going to pull it out.
[0:03:25 – 0:03:31] Erik: And this was something that I just found that I forgot that I received as a Christmas present.
[0:03:31 – 0:03:32] Erik: So here we go.
[0:03:32 – 0:03:33] Adam: This is pretty exciting.
[0:03:34 – 0:03:36] Adam: He’s making his way over to the fridge.
[0:03:36 – 0:03:38] Adam: We have a nice mini fridge here in the studio.
[0:03:38 – 0:03:40] Adam: Holy moly.
[0:03:41 – 0:03:43] Adam: That is a jumbo.
[0:03:44 – 0:03:45] Adam: That is a large beer.
[0:03:46 – 0:03:51] Adam: It’s like a magnum-sized, looks like a champagne bottle.
[0:03:51 – 0:03:55] Erik: Yeah, we’ll definitely get the corking on audio here.
[0:03:55 – 0:04:04] Erik: This might be one that we’ll have to bring down and maybe distribute amongst some other people because it’s like a gallon of 10.1% alcohol.
[0:04:04 – 0:04:07] Adam: Yeah, we may want to wait until we’re done recording to enjoy this week’s sponsor.
[0:04:08 – 0:04:09] Adam: So who is sponsoring us?
[0:04:10 – 0:04:13] Adam: If we can get them on board, I think I’d be very happy.
[0:04:13 – 0:04:16] Erik: This is Stone, but it’s specifically Stone Berlin.
[0:04:16 – 0:04:18] Erik: They have a brewery in Berlin.
[0:04:18 – 0:04:18] Erik: Yes.
[0:04:19 – 0:04:22] Erik: And it is the Super Magic Wurstaut.
[0:04:22 – 0:04:23] Erik: Wurstaut.
[0:04:23 – 0:04:26] Erik: Out of, yeah, their Berlin brewery.
[0:04:26 – 0:04:32] Erik: So it’s an ale brewed with hazelnuts, pecans, almonds, and partially aged in whiskey barrels.
[0:04:32 – 0:04:34] Erik: It sounds very dark and flavorful.
[0:04:34 – 0:04:35] Erik: Sounds amazing.
[0:04:35 – 0:04:40] Erik: You might have to pop it and have a little snifter of it, but it might be saved for later.
[0:04:41 – 0:04:41] Adam: Yeah, let’s do that.
[0:04:42 – 0:04:43] Adam: Can you handle that?
[0:04:43 – 0:04:46] Adam: I’ll kind of talk our listeners through this.
[0:04:46 – 0:04:49] Adam: So this is, yeah, as I said, it’s a Magnum size.
[0:04:49 – 0:04:53] Adam: By far the largest beer we’ve ever had as a sponsor on Tumlum.
[0:04:53 – 0:04:56] Adam: So Stone, call us up.
[0:04:56 – 0:04:57] Adam: Let’s make this happen.
[0:04:57 – 0:04:58] Adam: I’m very excited.
[0:04:59 – 0:04:59] Adam: Here we go.
[0:05:01 – 0:05:01] Erik: He’s working it.
[0:05:02 – 0:05:05] Erik: Oh, yes.
[0:05:05 – 0:05:05] Erik: Yes.
[0:05:06 – 0:05:08] Erik: It’s not as poppy as I thought it was going to be.
[0:05:08 – 0:05:09] Adam: No, it’s a good subtle pop.
[0:05:10 – 0:05:10] Adam: Yeah, there you go.
[0:05:10 – 0:05:11] Adam: Good resonance.
[0:05:12 – 0:05:12] Adam: So.
[0:05:13 – 0:05:13] Adam: Oh, boy.
[0:05:14 – 0:05:18] Erik: We’ll grab a couple of glasses and see how it goes.
[0:05:18 – 0:05:20] Adam: Okay, let’s, yes, absolutely.
[0:05:21 – 0:05:25] Erik: So we’ve got the, unfortunately, I only have one of these, the Quantico Park mug.
[0:05:25 – 0:05:26] Erik: It’s a really nice mug.
[0:05:26 – 0:05:27] Erik: And then a stemless wine glass.
[0:05:27 – 0:05:32] Erik: We’re going to get the Zuper Magic Wootchtout going here.
[0:05:41 – 0:05:42] Erik: It’s very dark.
[0:05:45 – 0:05:45] Erik: All right.
[0:05:48 – 0:05:48] Erik: Cheers.
[0:05:53 – 0:05:54] Adam: Ah, prost.
[0:05:55 – 0:05:55] Erik: Ooh.
[0:05:58 – 0:06:01] Adam: It’s got a crispness to it that I didn’t expect.
[0:06:02 – 0:06:02] Erik: Yeah.
[0:06:03 – 0:06:04] Erik: Very delicious, though.
[0:06:04 – 0:06:13] Erik: Sometimes when you see that it’s just a whole list of different nuts and spices and berries, you’re like, man, this thing’s just going to be a bruiser.
[0:06:13 – 0:06:16] Erik: But it’s actually kind of refreshing, surprisingly so.
[0:06:16 – 0:06:16] Adam: It’s really nice.
[0:06:16 – 0:06:18] Adam: It’s pretty warm here today.
[0:06:18 – 0:06:19] Adam: The sun is out.
[0:06:19 – 0:06:21] Adam: We have blue skies and…
[0:06:22 – 0:06:28] Adam: Yeah, it’s not typically what you’d think of for a day to have a really nice dark stout from Berlin.
[0:06:29 – 0:06:37] Erik: Well, yeah, unfortunately, it should have been consumed around the time that I received it, which was Christmas, and it kind of got cellared, and I forgot about it.
[0:06:37 – 0:06:39] Adam: I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that, though.
[0:06:39 – 0:06:42] Adam: It’s fortunate for us today that you had forgotten about it in the cellar.
[0:06:42 – 0:06:43] Erik: Yeah, definitely.
[0:06:43 – 0:06:45] Adam: Wow, thanks for busting that out of there.
[0:06:45 – 0:06:46] Adam: That’s a fine vintage at this point.
[0:06:47 – 0:06:49] Erik: That is, yeah, a fun little surprise.
[0:06:49 – 0:06:52] Erik: We’ve done the spring it on you questions in the past.
[0:06:52 – 0:06:56] Erik: We’ve been sponsored by beers in the past, but this is the first where we combined.
[0:06:56 – 0:06:57] Erik: I like it.
[0:06:57 – 0:06:57] Erik: Yeah.
[0:06:57 – 0:06:58] Adam: Yeah, very nice.
[0:06:58 – 0:06:59] Adam: Nice touch.
[0:06:59 – 0:07:00] Erik: Definitely.
[0:07:00 – 0:07:03] Adam: Yeah, so we’re out here.
[0:07:03 – 0:07:09] Adam: It’s a beautiful day in the North Country, and we also have a special guest, Arrow the Pup.
[0:07:09 – 0:07:10] Adam: The Husky Pup is here with us.
[0:07:12 – 0:07:18] Adam: You may hear her rustling around in the background, and she’s currently tied up to the white pine outside the screen here.
[0:07:19 – 0:07:23] Adam: She’s chewing on some little stumps and pine cones out there.
[0:07:24 – 0:07:31] Adam: But I guess if we’re talking about the Frost River, I previously had mentioned how we were really hoping we were going to bring her along.
[0:07:32 – 0:07:39] Adam: And I can report that we have successfully taken her in the canoe a couple times now, and she’s done well.
[0:07:39 – 0:07:45] Adam: There have been no capsizings, and she kind of needs a little help getting into the canoe yet, I would say.
[0:07:46 – 0:07:47] Adam: Getting out of the canoe, no problem.
[0:07:48 – 0:07:51] Adam: But once we’re in there and we’re out on the water, she is pretty stable.
[0:07:52 – 0:08:00] Adam: She has a tendency to kind of paw at the water over the side, which, again, I don’t think she’s really trying to get in the water, but…
[0:08:01 – 0:08:06] Adam: Yeah, we’ve determined that she’s just not ready for a four-day trip quite yet.
[0:08:06 – 0:08:07] Erik: She’s pretty young yet.
[0:08:07 – 0:08:17] Adam: I want to make sure her first trip is a really positive experience, and I can just see us becoming frustrated with her, and then we’re not going to have the fun and relaxation we need out of it.
[0:08:17 – 0:08:22] Adam: And then the other side of the coin is we have somebody in the neighborhood that can watch her for us, so…
[0:08:22 – 0:08:24] Adam: I think we’re just going to take this one for the humans.
[0:08:25 – 0:08:29] Adam: I know it was a pretty wild dream to take a five-month-old puppy on the Frost River to begin with.
[0:08:29 – 0:08:35] Adam: A lot of people were probably snickering when they heard that, but it’s still 50-50.
[0:08:35 – 0:08:38] Adam: I think if we had to bring her, we would make it work.
[0:08:38 – 0:08:42] Adam: She’s good enough on canoe and good enough just in general.
[0:08:43 – 0:08:46] Adam: She’s not too wild, but yeah, I think we’re going to hold off.
[0:08:47 – 0:08:47] Adam: It’s a lot of portages.
[0:08:48 – 0:08:49] Adam: It’s a lot of portages, and then you don’t even…
[0:08:50 – 0:08:57] Adam: I mean, a lot of those, maybe we can run or I don’t know how many beaver dams we’re going to run into, but yeah, it’s going to be a lot of in and out of the boat, which is not her strong suit.
[0:08:57 – 0:09:00] Adam: And yeah, just make it a lot nicer for us.
[0:09:00 – 0:09:02] Adam: So we’re going to just do it on our own.
[0:09:02 – 0:09:06] Adam: We’re going to leave her with aunt Cheyenne, uh, for a couple of days.
[0:09:06 – 0:09:10] Adam: And then we’re going to, we’ll focus on doing some like one day trips for the rest of the summer.
[0:09:10 – 0:09:14] Adam: And then maybe by this fall we can do a multi-night trip with her or something.
[0:09:14 – 0:09:15] Adam: But, uh,
[0:09:15 – 0:09:19] Adam: Yeah, so she won’t be with us, but she is here today in studio.
[0:09:20 – 0:09:25] Erik: Outside of studio, but the studio is pretty open to the outside air.
[0:09:25 – 0:09:27] Adam: Yeah, she was in here and she was just pacing a little.
[0:09:27 – 0:09:30] Adam: It’s a new experience for her, so she’s more comfortable out there.
[0:09:30 – 0:09:32] Erik: You can almost say it’s a screen porch.
[0:09:32 – 0:09:32] Erik: It is.
[0:09:33 – 0:09:37] Adam: So we’ve set the stage, I think, pretty well for this episode.
[0:09:37 – 0:09:41] Adam: We have the Frost River route map pulled up, courtesy of Clearwater Lodge.
[0:09:42 – 0:09:43] Adam: Yes.
[0:09:43 – 0:09:45] Adam: ClearwaterHistoricLodge.com.
[0:09:45 – 0:09:46] Adam: Go check it out.
[0:09:46 – 0:09:47] Adam: He’s got it all marked up for you.
[0:09:48 – 0:09:51] Adam: And just as a point of reference, if you want to follow along with a visual.
[0:09:52 – 0:09:55] Adam: And pretty much what we’re covering today is everything on this page.
[0:09:55 – 0:09:58] Adam: So to start with, let’s just…
[0:09:59 – 0:10:00] Adam: The multi-start.
[0:10:00 – 0:10:07] Erik: I mean… Yeah, the Frost River is one of the most unique routes that you’re going to find on this side of the park.
[0:10:07 – 0:10:14] Erik: There are other routes comparable to it, I would say, in the west side, up in Quetico.
[0:10:14 – 0:10:17] Erik: The Gunflint side in general, bigger lakes, bigger water.
[0:10:17 – 0:10:18] Erik: Yeah.
[0:10:18 – 0:10:19] Erik: Not as much…
[0:10:20 – 0:10:25] Erik: Although the waters are connected, they’re not necessarily connected in a way that you can paddle.
[0:10:26 – 0:10:31] Erik: So the Frost River is one of the only accessible river routes.
[0:10:31 – 0:10:32] Erik: Yeah, true river route.
[0:10:32 – 0:10:36] Erik: I mean, there’s the Granite River, but even that is basically a small little section.
[0:10:36 – 0:10:42] Adam: A couple lakes connected by some moving water that you can kind of navigate or have to portage.
[0:10:43 – 0:10:45] Erik: But that’s also not to say that the Frost River is like…
[0:10:46 – 0:10:49] Adam: Yeah, it’s not just going to be three days of paddling down the river.
[0:10:49 – 0:10:51] Adam: This is not the, you know, we’re not going down the Yukon.
[0:10:52 – 0:10:53] Erik: No, it’s not like the River Wild.
[0:10:53 – 0:10:54] Erik: Remember that movie?
[0:10:54 – 0:10:55] Adam: Yes.
[0:10:55 – 0:10:55] Adam: All right.
[0:10:55 – 0:10:56] Erik: That’s enough.
[0:10:56 – 0:10:56] Erik: Yeah.
[0:10:57 – 0:10:59] Erik: Let’s not get off on a River Wild tangent.
[0:10:59 – 0:10:59] Adam: Oh, no.
[0:10:59 – 0:11:00] Adam: We’ve got to save that one.
[0:11:01 – 0:11:04] Erik: Yeah, so there’s a couple of things that are really cool about it.
[0:11:04 – 0:11:10] Erik: It is so unique in terms of just the kind of river that it is.
[0:11:11 – 0:11:12] Erik: It’s really remote.
[0:11:13 – 0:11:15] Erik: It’s filled with wildlife.
[0:11:15 – 0:11:18] Erik: I mean, you guys are going to see tons of wildlife around every corner.
[0:11:18 – 0:11:19] Erik: It’s pretty deep in there.
[0:11:19 – 0:11:23] Adam: Yeah, like it’s going to feel untouched and like we’re out there by ourselves.
[0:11:23 – 0:11:25] Adam: I imagine for the most of this trip because it’s,
[0:11:26 – 0:11:35] Adam: You can do it the other way, but we’re going to be going with the current, so I imagine anybody else that’s on this route, which I can’t imagine is going to be a ton of people this time of year, we’re going in on a Tuesday morning.
[0:11:36 – 0:11:44] Adam: I looked, and the only permits that were really taken for either of the entry points that you’d want to use was going in on Fridays.
[0:11:44 – 0:11:46] Adam: All the Friday permits were kind of scooped up, but…
[0:11:47 – 0:11:51] Adam: So, yeah, anybody that went in the weekend ahead of us should be well ahead of us on the route.
[0:11:51 – 0:11:57] Adam: And then we’ll go in on Tuesday and then there won’t be anybody behind us until probably Thursday or Friday.
[0:11:58 – 0:12:04] Adam: I hadn’t looked recently, but when I last checked, there was still a wealth of permits available for both.
[0:12:04 – 0:12:27] Adam: round and cross bay yeah cross bay lake i’ll be clear um yeah so we’re gonna do it out of round and then just cut over and pick it up that way so then the whole route kind of flows clockwise on your map so we’re going to get over that away and then head south once we get south of ham um
[0:12:28 – 0:12:31] Erik: By heading over that away, you’re going to put in that round and then cut over through Snipe?
[0:12:32 – 0:12:32] Adam: Yeah, that’s right.
[0:12:32 – 0:12:37] Adam: We’re heading to Snipe, and then we’ll move over to the east and then pick up the route there.
[0:12:38 – 0:12:45] Adam: And, yeah, either entry point would have been available, and I’m sure there’s still plenty of entry points for that week, in the middle of the week especially.
[0:12:45 – 0:12:53] Adam: But the thinking there is just it’s really the same amount of portages, and then that way the car will be at –
[0:12:53 – 0:12:56] Adam: round Lake when we finish, um, at the end of the trip.
[0:12:56 – 0:12:59] Adam: So I don’t want to have to like walk the road, which is, I’ve said it before.
[0:12:59 – 0:13:05] Adam: I don’t like walking on a road, even gravel after a trip, it’s just unnatural and weird.
[0:13:05 – 0:13:05] Adam: And so.
[0:13:06 – 0:13:12] Erik: Well, and that way you get to experience Snipe Lake, which is absolutely devoid of fish, but very pretty.
[0:13:13 – 0:13:18] Adam: Yeah, no, I’ve never been to Snipe, so it’ll be a bunch of new water for me on this trip for both of us.
[0:13:18 – 0:13:21] Adam: I mean, I’ve just been to Ham.
[0:13:21 – 0:13:23] Adam: I’ve never actually then traveled south from Ham.
[0:13:24 – 0:13:28] Adam: So, yeah, it’s going to be almost all new water outside of Tuscarora and Missing Link.
[0:13:29 – 0:13:38] Erik: So just to, yeah, to kind of just boil it down, most people use entry point 50 cross Bay Lake to enter, but you’re using 51.
[0:13:38 – 0:13:40] Adam: It’s more of a natural start to it, yeah.
[0:13:40 – 0:13:43] Erik: To cut over just so your car is at the same spot on the ground.
[0:13:43 – 0:13:50] Adam: So you could do either or, or you could do it, you know, you could go backwards or, you know, there’s different variations you could do off of this.
[0:13:50 – 0:13:58] Erik: Well, the main thing between those two entry points, and you definitely can take advantage of this, the current flows in a clockwise direction.
[0:13:58 – 0:14:10] Erik: So if you’re starting at either 51 or 50, you’re going to want to make sure that you’re going to go down through Coral and Long Island and start on the frost lake side of things.
[0:14:10 – 0:14:33] Erik: yes you can do it in the opposite direction it’s not like you’re going to be paddling upstream but it’s much easier to pull your canoe over the uh however many there happens to be that year number of beaver dams than it is to try to pull up up it yeah and there are actually a couple of spots where you can just scoot down a little swift pinch current yeah i’m imagining in the may here that we’ll have enough water in there um
[0:14:34 – 0:14:42] Adam: That we should be able to maybe skip a portage or two or just ramp over some of these beaver dams in some way where it doesn’t really require a whole lot of get out and move.
[0:14:44 – 0:14:45] Adam: Just kind of motor right through it.
[0:14:46 – 0:14:47] Erik: It should be pretty high.
[0:14:47 – 0:14:49] Erik: And that’s the other thing to consider with this route.
[0:14:49 – 0:14:49] Erik: It’s not a…
[0:14:50 – 0:15:02] Erik: I mean, if it is, you definitely want to check, but it’s by about mid-July to mid-August, you’re going to want to start really checking with, well, Tuscarora Outfitters.
[0:15:02 – 0:15:05] Erik: Yeah, they have their fingers on the pulse on the Frost River up there.
[0:15:05 – 0:15:07] Erik: They’re located on Round Lake.
[0:15:07 – 0:15:15] Erik: Those are some good folks to call if you’re looking at water levels because if it gets too low, it’s not going to be very much fun at all.
[0:15:15 – 0:15:17] Erik: It gets really choked with lily pads, weeds.
[0:15:18 – 0:15:29] Adam: Yeah, if you ever paddled through that stuff where it’s like an inch of water on top of some mud and you’re kind of paddling into the mud, it’s exhausting both mentally and physically to try and paddle through that crap.
[0:15:29 – 0:15:29] Adam: It is not fun at all.
[0:15:29 – 0:15:38] Erik: The other thing to consider is the river itself is when you’re actually paddling on it, it’s small, it’s windy.
[0:15:38 – 0:15:51] Erik: So if you’ve got three people and you’re considering the three-person canoe, you might want to reconsider because some of those turns, getting one of those 20-plus footer three-person canoes turned around in there,
[0:15:52 – 0:15:52] Erik: Yeah.
[0:15:52 – 0:15:59] Erik: Is it probably will work, but you’re going to have, you know, one of those, you know, five point turn situations where you try to come around some of those corners.
[0:15:59 – 0:16:03] Adam: I’m sure we’ll have some comical situations, even in our men too.
[0:16:03 – 0:16:04] Adam: I mean, that’s 18 and a half.
[0:16:05 – 0:16:07] Adam: Uh, Natalie and I are pretty nimble paddlers.
[0:16:07 – 0:16:08] Adam: So I think we’ll be able to,
[0:16:08 – 0:16:32] Adam: navigate um but yeah i’ve never been through there so you never know what you’re going to run into it’s a really exciting feeling heading into this sort of deep wilderness um never having been there you know you can read about it you can talk to somebody like eric who’s done it a couple times and it’s still nothing really will prepare you for it except for just getting in there and doing it yeah for sure um so it’s pretty cool i’m i’m really um amped i’m amped
[0:16:33 – 0:16:35] Erik: You sound a little amped.
[0:16:35 – 0:16:37] Adam: Well, you know, it’s the first trip of the year, too, like cooped up.
[0:16:38 – 0:16:44] Adam: I mean, we’ve been out on the boat a few times already, but it’s just been a little short practice pup paddling, basically.
[0:16:44 – 0:16:45] Adam: It’s not really been out paddling.
[0:16:46 – 0:16:47] Adam: We did an opener.
[0:16:47 – 0:16:49] Adam: We kind of opened it up at one point and really gave it.
[0:16:49 – 0:16:53] Adam: I was just kind of testing the shoulder out, but it felt good.
[0:16:53 – 0:16:54] Adam: Not sore in any way.
[0:16:54 – 0:16:56] Adam: I feel like we’re really good.
[0:16:56 – 0:17:02] Adam: I may have a little trouble getting the heavier pack on and off without assistance, but it’s not a solo trip.
[0:17:02 – 0:17:03] Adam: We’ll be fine.
[0:17:03 – 0:17:04] Erik: Yeah, so.
[0:17:05 – 0:17:08] Adam: So where does the Frost River actually technically begin?
[0:17:08 – 0:17:14] Adam: Is it at Frost Lake or is it above that at like Long Island?
[0:17:14 – 0:17:16] Adam: I would consider the actual.
[0:17:17 – 0:17:20] Adam: Like where do you, I mean, basically as soon as you get out of Ham, you’re kind of going with the current, no?
[0:17:21 – 0:17:22] Adam: Yeah, no.
[0:17:22 – 0:17:26] Adam: Because Ham flows north into the Cross River.
[0:17:27 – 0:17:30] Adam: And then so where’s the height of land, I guess, on that one?
[0:17:30 – 0:17:34] Erik: I think it’s, yeah, because when you put in that cross bay, you’re paddling upstream.
[0:17:34 – 0:17:35] Erik: Yeah, there’s a couple portages.
[0:17:35 – 0:17:36] Erik: You’re paddling upstream into Ham.
[0:17:37 – 0:17:39] Erik: You’re paddling upstream into Coral.
[0:17:39 – 0:17:43] Erik: You’re paddling upstream into Long Island and then down into Gordon.
[0:17:44 – 0:17:49] Erik: And then when you portage out of Gordon into Unload and then over into Frost, that’s when it starts flowing west.
[0:17:49 – 0:17:50] Erik: So really it’s Unload.
[0:17:51 – 0:17:52] Adam: I would say that’s the headwaters.
[0:17:52 – 0:17:53] Adam: It should be the Unload River probably.
[0:17:54 – 0:17:55] Adam: The Unload River.
[0:17:55 – 0:17:59] Adam: So, yeah, it’s how many portages in total?
[0:18:00 – 0:18:01] Adam: I think I counted 31.
[0:18:01 – 0:18:03] Adam: I think if you have to do all of them.
[0:18:04 – 0:18:10] Adam: Yeah, if every listed portage is indeed a get out of the boat scenario, then it’s 30 or 31, I think.
[0:18:10 – 0:18:12] Erik: Yeah, there’s a couple that you will definitely be able to skip.
[0:18:12 – 0:18:17] Erik: But then at the same time, there’s also all the beaver dams that probably add up.
[0:18:17 – 0:18:18] Adam: So who knows?
[0:18:18 – 0:18:19] Adam: We’re probably looking at more like middle 30s.
[0:18:20 – 0:18:44] Adam: of like actual portaging situations but maybe some of those we won’t even have to take gear out of the boat for well i guess the uh the old gel coat min 2 is certainly capable of being dragged through the woods i guess it depends on how many how many beaver dams add up to an actual portage that’s the thing but on paper it looks like 31 to me if i counted right yeah and that sounds good um
[0:18:45 – 0:18:49] Adam: I think the way we’re going to try and do it is we’re going in real early on a Tuesday.
[0:18:49 – 0:18:54] Adam: And so I would love it if we could get all the way to Frost Lake the first night.
[0:18:54 – 0:18:56] Adam: And I have my eye on that beach site.
[0:18:57 – 0:19:01] Adam: It would be, if you’re using your numbering system, it looks like Frost 4 to me.
[0:19:03 – 0:19:04] Adam: I don’t know, about five.
[0:19:04 – 0:19:12] Adam: There’s two kind of right there when you get into Frost Lake, but it looks like the second one, once you’re in the lake, is on that little point with a huge sandy bay.
[0:19:13 – 0:19:16] Adam: That’s what I’m kind of having my eye on for that first night.
[0:19:16 – 0:19:30] Erik: Now, the two sites on Frost that have extensive sand beaches, and yeah, I guess it depends on how you number them, but I typically, if you can, try to go from west to east, and if that’s the way we’re doing it, it would be…
[0:19:32 – 0:19:34] Erik: Three and four.
[0:19:34 – 0:19:35] Adam: Three and four.
[0:19:35 – 0:19:40] Erik: Those two little humps on the north side of the lake, those are, I mean, that’s basically all sand beach.
[0:19:41 – 0:19:41] Erik: Yeah.
[0:19:42 – 0:19:43] Erik: Pretty cool.
[0:19:43 – 0:19:54] Erik: One of the few areas on this side of the Boundary Waters, you find them over out of Ely and on the north end, the north side of Quetico a lot, the big sand beaches.
[0:19:54 – 0:19:54] Erik: Yeah.
[0:19:54 – 0:19:55] Erik: Yeah.
[0:19:55 – 0:19:57] Erik: You don’t really find them over on the rocky eastern side.
[0:19:58 – 0:20:02] Erik: You know, Gunflint side, rarely you get anything that resembles a sand beach.
[0:20:02 – 0:20:09] Erik: But there are two campsites on Frost that you can walk right out of your campsite onto a nice extensive sand beach.
[0:20:09 – 0:20:09] Adam: Yeah.
[0:20:09 – 0:20:10] Adam: So, I don’t know.
[0:20:10 – 0:20:14] Adam: I mean, maybe I’m getting ahead of us here, but that’s just looking at it for our trip.
[0:20:14 – 0:20:15] Adam: That’s what I would like to do.
[0:20:15 – 0:20:20] Adam: But maybe we want to back up and just cover in that way.
[0:20:20 – 0:20:22] Adam: That would be a day one.
[0:20:22 – 0:20:26] Adam: It looks like 11 portages from round down to frost.
[0:20:27 – 0:20:29] Erik: Yeah, that would be, I mean, that’s going to be a long day.
[0:20:29 – 0:20:33] Erik: It’s going to be a long day, but then once you get in there, you’re right there.
[0:20:33 – 0:20:34] Adam: My idea is to get down there.
[0:20:34 – 0:20:36] Adam: I really want to camp on frost.
[0:20:36 – 0:20:44] Adam: And then I also really want to take our time on the actual frost river for like, I just want to take two really easy days on the river where we’re just taking our time and soaking it in.
[0:20:45 – 0:20:50] Adam: So nothing against Long Island and snipe, but I’m just kind of basically be trying to blow through those lakes.
[0:20:50 – 0:20:51] Adam: But do you want it?
[0:20:51 – 0:20:53] Adam: Do you want to maybe talk about that early section?
[0:20:54 – 0:20:55] Erik: Yeah.
[0:20:55 – 0:20:56] Adam: Long Island’s a beautiful lake.
[0:20:56 – 0:21:00] Erik: Starting out, you got the, let’s just say you’re putting in that cross bay.
[0:21:00 – 0:21:02] Erik: You got a couple of portages around some moving water.
[0:21:03 – 0:21:08] Erik: And Ham Lake isn’t even technically, not even technically, it isn’t in the boundary waters.
[0:21:09 – 0:21:10] Erik: Although there are four campsites out there.
[0:21:11 – 0:21:11] Erik: Yeah.
[0:21:11 – 0:21:15] Erik: The first one is the one where the Ham Lake fire started.
[0:21:16 – 0:21:19] Erik: The second one out on that point is a really nice one.
[0:21:20 – 0:21:24] Erik: And then from there, the portage.
[0:21:24 – 0:21:26] Adam: I’ve stayed on that second one on the point.
[0:21:26 – 0:21:27] Erik: Yeah, it’s like way up on top of a rocky cliff.
[0:21:27 – 0:21:33] Adam: Yeah, and you would think for a campsite that is obviously that popular that you’d have trouble finding firewood.
[0:21:33 – 0:21:37] Adam: But I just remember being in there and it was just ample amounts of beautiful firewood everywhere.
[0:21:38 – 0:21:38] Erik: Yeah.
[0:21:38 – 0:21:40] Adam: Just half down, beautifully dried timber.
[0:21:42 – 0:21:42] Adam: Pickens.
[0:21:43 – 0:21:44] Adam: So there’s a gorgeous lake.
[0:21:44 – 0:21:50] Erik: One of those lakes that has the, uh, the little red dots, which indicate a campsite, although it’s not in the Boundary Waters.
[0:21:50 – 0:21:54] Erik: So it’s one of those places if you want to just quick get out and there’s no permits.
[0:21:54 – 0:21:57] Adam: We just had like a one night where we were trying to go camping.
[0:21:57 – 0:21:59] Adam: And so we just went and that site was open.
[0:21:59 – 0:21:59] Adam: Yeah.
[0:22:00 – 0:22:00] Adam: Nice.
[0:22:01 – 0:22:02] Adam: Uh, really nice time.
[0:22:02 – 0:22:09] Erik: So it’s not until you take the 24-rod portage out of Ham into the Cross River, I would say.
[0:22:09 – 0:22:11] Erik: That’s probably still the Cross River.
[0:22:13 – 0:22:15] Adam: That’s really stretched to call that a lake at any point.
[0:22:15 – 0:22:18] Adam: I guess at the very southern point there, that sort of opens up.
[0:22:18 – 0:22:22] Adam: But it’s kind of a lake, a lake-ish or a river-ish lake.
[0:22:22 – 0:22:24] Erik: Yeah, it’s kind of tricky through there.
[0:22:24 – 0:22:25] Adam: A lake-ish river.
[0:22:25 – 0:22:26] Adam: A lake-ish river.
[0:22:26 – 0:22:27] Adam: Or a river-ish lake.
[0:22:29 – 0:22:30] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:22:30 – 0:22:31] Erik: Let’s toss up.
[0:22:31 – 0:22:34] Erik: There’s a lot of little rivers and fingers that kind of flow in through there.
[0:22:34 – 0:22:39] Erik: So that’s a section where you want to keep your eyes on the map and where you’re at because you’re paddling.
[0:22:39 – 0:22:44] Adam: Definitely, this is going to be a trip where I’m going to have the map out at all times and maybe even two different maps.
[0:22:45 – 0:22:49] Adam: I’ll probably be mainly working off my Nat Geo, which I’m very fond of.
[0:22:49 – 0:22:52] Adam: But we did also acquire a McKenzie, I’m sad to say.
[0:22:52 – 0:22:52] Adam: Oh, my.
[0:22:52 – 0:22:53] Adam: Sorry, McKenzie.
[0:22:53 – 0:22:54] Adam: I’m just kidding around.
[0:22:55 – 0:22:56] Adam: I am a fisherman.
[0:22:56 – 0:22:58] Adam: I don’t think that’s any secret for podcast listeners.
[0:22:59 – 0:23:05] Adam: But I’m really actually converted to a Nat Geo man at this point for BW park-related stuff.
[0:23:05 – 0:23:09] Adam: But the McKenzie is nice because it shows the entire route on one map.
[0:23:10 – 0:23:11] Adam: Yeah, that’s why it comes down to that sometimes.
[0:23:11 – 0:23:12] Adam: And the same is true for the Granite River.
[0:23:12 – 0:23:16] Adam: I guess McKenzie’s really honing in on those river routes.
[0:23:16 – 0:23:21] Erik: Well, they do split the Vento up into two units, so that’s why we’re fond of the fissures on the clear riverside.
[0:23:21 – 0:23:24] Adam: Yeah, for the big lakes over here, the fissure makes sense.
[0:23:24 – 0:23:33] Adam: We’ll have a couple different maps to relay, but yeah, on this route in general, especially on the really thin and twisting stuff, it’s key to have it out.
[0:23:33 – 0:23:37] Erik: Yeah, you don’t want to end up going down Dawkins Creek or Extortion Creek.
[0:23:37 – 0:23:38] Adam: Extortion Creek.
[0:23:39 – 0:23:42] Erik: The campsite on Rib, there’s one, is a really nice campsite.
[0:23:43 – 0:23:49] Adam: So, yeah, if something terrible happens and we were like, we’re never going to make it to Frost, maybe consider just calling it on Rib tonight.
[0:23:50 – 0:23:57] Adam: We have plenty of time, so it’s certainly… That’s the nice thing with leaving yourself extra time is that you have a lot of chances for audibles on the trip.
[0:23:57 – 0:24:01] Adam: If things aren’t going your way or we run into an extreme wind or something…
[0:24:02 – 0:24:06] Adam: We can certainly cut it short and stop early on that first day, and we would be in no trouble whatsoever.
[0:24:06 – 0:24:08] Erik: No, I wouldn’t think so.
[0:24:08 – 0:24:15] Erik: Down through Lower George and Carl, you’re probably going to want to make the little 35-rod cut into the back bay of Long Island.
[0:24:15 – 0:24:22] Adam: You have the option to paddle way around the Long Island, or you can just cut it like Dead Man’s Portage a la Sega Negans.
[0:24:23 – 0:24:26] Adam: That’s the mini Dead Man’s Portage.
[0:24:26 – 0:24:32] Erik: Yeah, and there are also nice campsites in that back bay of Long Island, the one on the island.
[0:24:32 – 0:24:33] Adam: Yeah, we got an island site.
[0:24:34 – 0:24:47] Adam: I’m always fond of an island site, so that could be another option if we don’t feel like we’re going to have enough time to… Because I would like to get in a camp, and this is going to be a trip that’s all about leisure and relaxation and not pushing very hard.
[0:24:47 – 0:24:49] Adam: Kind of the opposite of my normal kind of trip, so…
[0:24:50 – 0:25:02] Adam: Yeah, I mean, if we get there and we’re feeling good and we want to just shut it down early and relax, take plenty of time to get firewood sawed up and get everything set up, that might be a good spot to look for too.
[0:25:02 – 0:25:15] Erik: The little campsite right before the river that comes north of Gordon, if you’re looking at a fissure, it is the campsite directly to the left of the L in Long Island.
[0:25:15 – 0:25:18] Erik: That is another nice sand beach campsite.
[0:25:18 – 0:25:18] Adam: Is it?
[0:25:19 – 0:25:24] Adam: It seems like you’d have like a current moving in there too and could be a decent fishing option.
[0:25:24 – 0:25:33] Erik: Yeah, it’s apparently labeled on the fisher map here as Long Island River between Gordon and Long Island.
[0:25:33 – 0:25:37] Adam: Yeah, but sure, does that keep moving down through Gordon and into Cherokee then, I guess?
[0:25:38 – 0:25:41] Erik: Yeah, there’s definitely moving water in that little stretch there.
[0:25:41 – 0:25:43] Adam: Right, but it’s actually not in any way connected to frost.
[0:25:43 – 0:25:44] Adam: No.
[0:25:44 – 0:25:49] Adam: So there is kind of a height of land then going from Gordon over to unload and unload via the frost.
[0:25:50 – 0:25:57] Adam: So there’s going to be on that first day a couple height of lands, which is always a treat if you know that they’re doing it.
[0:25:57 – 0:26:00] Adam: How many height of lands have I gone over where I didn’t comprehend it?
[0:26:00 – 0:26:03] Adam: Now it’s something I pay more attention to.
[0:26:04 – 0:26:25] Adam: so the uh yeah it looks like 11 and i’m really eyeing that one campsite and frost though but it looks like there’s a couple decent options should we want to cut that day a little shorter but i’m perfectly happy with day one arms and mind and legs to just really get moving and get down into frost the first day and really set ourselves up for then
[0:26:26 – 0:26:28] Adam: a couple of days of just doing whatever we want.
[0:26:28 – 0:26:34] Adam: Well, yeah, to a certain extent, we can honestly just take a whole day of frost then, and then still have plenty of time to get back out by Friday.
[0:26:34 – 0:26:35] Adam: But,
[0:26:35 – 0:26:36] Erik: Yeah, that’s the biggest thing.
[0:26:36 – 0:26:57] Erik: When you’re considering the actual river portion of this route between Frost and where it kind of gets back into more lake country, which I would probably say is either Afton or what’s the next one up there where you’ve got a few different mora.
[0:26:58 – 0:27:18] Erik: that’s when you’re back into lake country between frost and afton there’s only one campsite and it’s on baloney lake which you know isn’t there a couple down in here somewhere no maybe they’re not marked no they’re not it’s just the one on baloney and then the one on afton and so you you know
[0:27:19 – 0:27:34] Erik: You don’t want to be necessarily saying that this is you, but anybody that’s going to be doing the Frost River, you want to be mindful of when you’re starting it and how long you’re planning on spending because there’s definitely nowhere else to camp.
[0:27:34 – 0:27:38] Erik: It’s going to be a portage camp situation if you get in there.
[0:27:39 – 0:27:39] Erik: Sad.
[0:27:39 – 0:27:45] Erik: The other thing is there’s only that one campsite in Bologna, and it can be occupied.
[0:27:45 – 0:27:47] Adam: There shouldn’t be anybody in there.
[0:27:47 – 0:27:58] Adam: I would be shocked if we ran into somebody out there based on what I’m looking at for when we’re leaving during the week, what it looks like for permits that have been acquired for this area.
[0:27:58 – 0:28:05] Adam: I would be honestly shocked if we even saw anybody after we got through Long Island until we got back to Tuscarora.
[0:28:06 – 0:28:07] Adam: Probably we will, but…
[0:28:07 – 0:28:11] Adam: I also won’t be surprised if we see nobody other than just some otters and moose.
[0:28:12 – 0:28:12] Adam: Yeah.
[0:28:12 – 0:28:16] Adam: But, yeah, that would be for day two, then my plan would be like, hey.
[0:28:17 – 0:28:18] Erik: It’s next week at this time?
[0:28:18 – 0:28:24] Adam: Yeah, no, we’ll be basically on our last – we’ll probably be doing the long portage to Tuscarora this time next week.
[0:28:25 – 0:28:27] Erik: You’ll see people probably on that last day, but – Oh, for sure.
[0:28:27 – 0:28:28] Adam: Because that’s going into Memorial Day.
[0:28:28 – 0:28:31] Adam: I assume there are going to be a lot of people in Tuscarora Lake are fishing.
[0:28:31 – 0:28:32] Erik: Yeah, that too.
[0:28:32 – 0:28:42] Erik: So keep in mind from Frost to Afton, although on the map it’s only three, four miles, the way that that river winds – Could take a while.
[0:28:42 – 0:28:45] Erik: I guarantee you end up paddling probably close to at least –
[0:28:46 – 0:29:05] Erik: five or six miles and then the in and out of portaging and unloading and reloading it’s it’s slower than you think the beaver dams are always fluctuating so give yourself an ample amount of time and like don’t guarantee that that site on baloney is going to be open although every time i’ve gone through there it always has been
[0:29:06 – 0:29:19] Erik: The other thing to keep in mind is the one downside, although it is an amazing site, really more has to do with the remoteness than the actual layout of the campsite.
[0:29:20 – 0:29:20] Erik: It’s a fine layout.
[0:29:20 – 0:29:23] Erik: It’s a little small, but two people, it’s perfect.
[0:29:23 – 0:29:25] Erik: You just really feel like you’re in the middle of nowhere.
[0:29:25 – 0:29:28] Erik: But the one downside is you can’t see it from the portage.
[0:29:29 – 0:29:34] Erik: So you have to paddle over to it, which means you don’t get the luxury of just being like, oh, yeah, it’s occupied.
[0:29:34 – 0:29:36] Erik: Let’s leave all of our gear on the other side.
[0:29:36 – 0:29:37] Adam: Right, right.
[0:29:37 – 0:29:39] Adam: But that is our plan then.
[0:29:40 – 0:29:41] Adam: First day would be very tough.
[0:29:41 – 0:29:43] Adam: Well, not very tough, but…
[0:29:43 – 0:29:56] Adam: It’s a tougher day going all the way for Frost on the first day, but then that really sets us up for a very easy day into Bologna for night two, which it’s sort of laughable, especially for what I’m used to doing.
[0:29:57 – 0:30:04] Adam: We’re really only going to do just three or four more portages and then stop at Bologna, but that’s the name of the game on this trip.
[0:30:04 – 0:30:09] Erik: Well, between Frost and Bologna, it’ll definitely be more than three or four, and it’ll give you the opportunity to actually enjoy paddling.
[0:30:09 – 0:30:10] Adam: That’s what I want to be about.
[0:30:10 – 0:30:15] Adam: I want to spend most of the four days on the Frost River and then just kind of gun through the rest of it.
[0:30:16 – 0:30:18] Erik: It’s crazy how much wildlife you’re going to see in there.
[0:30:18 – 0:30:20] Erik: It’s because of the river itself.
[0:30:20 – 0:30:20] Erik: Yes.
[0:30:20 – 0:30:21] Erik: They just love those.
[0:30:21 – 0:30:28] Erik: I mean, every corner you come around, I remember the last time I was through there, it was either something was swimming under the boat,
[0:30:29 – 0:30:33] Erik: flying overhead or crashing through the woods because we were coming around the corner.
[0:30:33 – 0:30:35] Erik: I mean, it’s crazy.
[0:30:35 – 0:30:38] Adam: So can we zoom in a little maybe on this part of the map?
[0:30:38 – 0:30:45] Erik: I was trying to and not having any success because we’re back here in the off-grid studio.
[0:30:45 – 0:30:46] Adam: No Wi-Fi back here.
[0:30:46 – 0:30:50] Erik: Yeah, but it’s just a short portage off of Chase Lake.
[0:30:50 – 0:30:51] Erik: Chase Lake, yeah.
[0:30:51 – 0:30:53] Adam: It’s about, I think, 50 rods.
[0:30:54 – 0:30:59] Adam: Once you get through the bigger portage out of Frost, then you’re really kind of into the river system.
[0:30:59 – 0:31:02] Adam: That’s when the Frost River really begins in my mind.
[0:31:03 – 0:31:10] Adam: Um, so yeah, we’re just going to probably get up and make a big old breakfast and then do that first section of the frost river.
[0:31:10 – 0:31:13] Adam: And then probably you’re going to call it pretty early a day on baloney.
[0:31:14 – 0:31:18] Adam: Like I, if baloney is open, I’m definitely not going beyond baloney on day two.
[0:31:18 – 0:31:18] Erik: Yeah.
[0:31:18 – 0:31:20] Erik: So if it’s open, you should definitely cancel.
[0:31:20 – 0:31:28] Adam: I mean, it’s a goal of the trip is to get to camp on one of those nice sites on frost and then another, just a short day into the beautiful site on baloney.
[0:31:29 – 0:31:31] Erik: Um, it’s a very remote site.
[0:31:33 – 0:31:34] Adam: Oh, yeah, it’s Squid Lake, too.
[0:31:35 – 0:31:41] Adam: I was, like, looking at the map the other day, and I’m like, oh, so we’re going to go through Squid and then stop at Bologna.
[0:31:42 – 0:31:45] Adam: Like, just such a funny sequence in your mind.
[0:31:45 – 0:31:46] Adam: Octopus.
[0:31:46 – 0:31:46] Adam: Octopus.
[0:31:47 – 0:31:48] Adam: It is octopus, I’m sure.
[0:31:48 – 0:31:49] Erik: And it kind of looks like an octopus.
[0:31:49 – 0:31:56] Adam: Yeah, so, yeah, we’re going to go Frost River to Octopus to Bologna.
[0:31:56 – 0:31:58] Adam: Yeah, that’s a funny day.
[0:31:58 – 0:32:04] Erik: The longer of the two days between is after Bologna to get up to another campsite.
[0:32:04 – 0:32:12] Adam: Yeah, like if for some reason Bologna is taken, I mean, then we’re going to be in for a real chase up to Afton there.
[0:32:12 – 0:32:13] Adam: And that’s, I don’t know.
[0:32:13 – 0:32:15] Erik: That’s a fine site, but…
[0:32:16 – 0:32:22] Erik: Yeah, so it’s, you know, after that, you’re really back into campsite country.
[0:32:23 – 0:32:25] Erik: You don’t have to worry too much about planning from there.
[0:32:25 – 0:32:33] Erik: But the only other real consideration is some of the, it was actually the Cavity Lake fire that affected Crooked Lake.
[0:32:33 – 0:32:34] Erik: Right.
[0:32:34 – 0:32:42] Erik: Most of the campsites were preserved, but the lake itself and its shorelines have been, you know, kind of affected by that.
[0:32:42 – 0:32:44] Erik: So some people don’t mind as much.
[0:32:44 – 0:32:46] Erik: It’s definitely still noticeable.
[0:32:47 – 0:32:50] Erik: But the campsites are still, like I said, protected.
[0:32:50 – 0:32:51] Erik: They’re nice.
[0:32:52 – 0:32:58] Erik: The ones on Tuscarora are probably the nicest in that whole loop, but they are very popular too.
[0:32:58 – 0:33:05] Adam: Yeah, we’ll probably stop short of getting all the way to Tuscarora for our third night then coming out of Bologna.
[0:33:05 – 0:33:09] Adam: I would be fine if we even went from Bologna to Afton and then left ourselves a long day.
[0:33:09 – 0:33:11] Adam: On this trip, we’ll definitely have the weather radio on.
[0:33:12 – 0:33:18] Adam: And just making sure right now, looking at the long-term forecast, it’s looking really good too, like knock on wood.
[0:33:18 – 0:33:25] Adam: But, you know, if we can, even if we just go from Bologna to Afton, then burn it out after that, we’ll have light packs and be moving.
[0:33:25 – 0:33:29] Adam: But it certainly is possible too that we end up all the way at Tuscarora on that last day.
[0:33:30 – 0:33:51] Adam: which just leaves us a really like well we can sleep in and eat everything left in our pack for breakfast the next morning and then even like crab walk through that long portage into missing link if we want to because we’ll have so much time yeah that’s more like a 500 i believe are you bringing fishing gear yeah well that’s the trade-off then if we’re not going to bring pup and then i’m definitely bringing fishing gear absolutely
[0:33:51 – 0:33:51] Erik: Nice.
[0:33:51 – 0:33:58] Erik: Well, through the first stretch is really good fishing in my experience.
[0:33:58 – 0:34:03] Erik: Smallmouth, pike, and then Long Island has pike and trout.
[0:34:03 – 0:34:06] Erik: Frost is about the same.
[0:34:06 – 0:34:08] Adam: I’ve heard there’s some good trout to be had in frost.
[0:34:08 – 0:34:09] Erik: Yes, there is.
[0:34:09 – 0:34:12] Erik: The river itself I’ve never really had amazing luck with.
[0:34:13 – 0:34:18] Adam: I’m sure I’ll throw some lines into the moving currents, like underneath the portages when we get back.
[0:34:19 – 0:34:20] Adam: That’s always been good for me.
[0:34:21 – 0:34:25] Erik: I think it’s a little too cut off, and the water that connects it all is maybe a little too small.
[0:34:25 – 0:34:29] Adam: Right, where you can’t really get anything too jumbo going in there.
[0:34:29 – 0:34:41] Adam: But then once you get back up onto the north end, onto Mora, Crooked, and Tuscarora, you’re back into… That would be the nice thing about making it farther on the third day, then maybe you could spend a little time fishing Tuscarora.
[0:34:42 – 0:34:48] Erik: Yeah, I think the only thing that you’re missing on that loop is a real solid walleye lake, if there’s even one at all.
[0:34:48 – 0:34:48] Adam: That’s fine.
[0:34:48 – 0:34:50] Adam: I’m purely looking for lake trout.
[0:34:50 – 0:34:54] Adam: The timing is absolutely perfect with the way the ice went out now.
[0:34:56 – 0:35:00] Adam: You could get out and catch a lake trout today, I’m sure, somewhere, but by next week…
[0:35:00 – 0:35:04] Adam: The water temperature should be absolutely perfect for lake trout.
[0:35:04 – 0:35:08] Adam: They should be snapping in the shallows, chasing spoons like maniacs.
[0:35:08 – 0:35:09] Adam: Oh, boy.
[0:35:10 – 0:35:14] Adam: I’m not going to guarantee it, but I would be shocked if we didn’t have lake trout for dinner one of these nights.
[0:35:15 – 0:35:15] Erik: It would be surprising.
[0:35:15 – 0:35:19] Adam: I will definitely be bringing a fillet knife in the proper way.
[0:35:19 – 0:35:24] Adam: As we discussed on episode 16, you just bake them right on the fire until their eyes turn white.
[0:35:24 – 0:35:25] Adam: It’s perfect.
[0:35:25 – 0:35:36] Erik: We just had ice out four days ago on most of the last remaining lakes than the big lake trout lakes in the area, which I think is still a little, we’re probably either today or tomorrow.
[0:35:37 – 0:35:42] Erik: There’s the tiniest little window after the ice goes out before the lake trout really turn on.
[0:35:42 – 0:35:45] Erik: They really snap out of it and they’re like, hey, it’s time to go.
[0:35:46 – 0:35:51] Erik: We had somebody out fishing mountain a couple of days ago, basically for like two days straight.
[0:35:52 – 0:35:53] Erik: They didn’t catch anything.
[0:35:53 – 0:35:55] Adam: That’s disturbing to say the least.
[0:35:55 – 0:35:58] Erik: Because if mountain isn’t going, then they’re probably not going anywhere in the area.
[0:35:58 – 0:35:58] Erik: No.
[0:35:59 – 0:36:01] Erik: Where you’re going to be heading, they’re a little bit farther ahead.
[0:36:01 – 0:36:04] Erik: So you’re probably going to be right in that window.
[0:36:04 – 0:36:10] Erik: Perfect window to be trolling through almost all of those bigger lakes, Long Island, Frosts.
[0:36:10 – 0:36:10] Erik: Yeah.
[0:36:10 – 0:36:14] Adam: I’ll probably bring a big Rapala or something for when we’re just paddling real.
[0:36:14 – 0:36:18] Adam: And we should be able to paddle nice and slow and just kind of follow the shoreline edge a little bit.
[0:36:18 – 0:36:18] Adam: Yeah.
[0:36:19 – 0:36:19] Erik: Yeah.
[0:36:19 – 0:36:21] Adam: Definitely going to be doing some trolling in those lakes.
[0:36:22 – 0:36:27] Adam: And then I’ll probably bring a spoon or something just to throw around from camp or when we’re in the moving water.
[0:36:27 – 0:36:29] Adam: You never know what you’re going to run into.
[0:36:29 – 0:36:30] Adam: But, yeah, that’s the other thing.
[0:36:30 – 0:36:40] Adam: It’s like, well, I was totally like, if we got the pup, I’m never going to have enough time to fish or I’m not going to want to, like, leave the pup be for even five minutes to go and try and fish.
[0:36:40 – 0:36:41] Adam: So…
[0:36:42 – 0:36:53] Adam: that’s the other trade-off is okay i feel a little bad leaving her behind but we’ll have plenty of camping trips in our future and i think it’ll be best for her enjoyment of camping that we just don’t force it right now and then yeah also
[0:36:56 – 0:36:56] Adam: Get to fish.
[0:36:56 – 0:36:57] Adam: So that’s nice.
[0:36:58 – 0:36:58] Adam: Yeah.
[0:36:58 – 0:36:59] Adam: So that covers it.
[0:36:59 – 0:37:00] Erik: That’s a pretty nice route.
[0:37:00 – 0:37:02] Erik: You’re doing it in four days, three nights.
[0:37:02 – 0:37:04] Erik: That’s about as comfortable as you can make it.
[0:37:04 – 0:37:06] Adam: Yeah, I know you listed it as a three to five day.
[0:37:07 – 0:37:10] Adam: I know that if you and I went out there, we could probably do it in a day.
[0:37:11 – 0:37:12] Adam: Well, I have done it in a day.
[0:37:12 – 0:37:12] Adam: You’ve done it in a day.
[0:37:13 – 0:37:15] Erik: I did it in a day against the current before I knew how to do it.
[0:37:17 – 0:37:17] Erik: What are we doing?
[0:37:17 – 0:37:18] Erik: We’re going upstream?
[0:37:19 – 0:37:19] Erik: Yeah.
[0:37:19 – 0:37:19] Adam: Come on.
[0:37:20 – 0:37:23] Adam: No, I would say you and I could easily do it in a day.
[0:37:23 – 0:37:27] Adam: Natalie and I could probably do it as a one-night trip.
[0:37:27 – 0:37:32] Adam: We could probably pack light and just go for Bologna and then finish it the next day if we really had to.
[0:37:33 – 0:37:44] Adam: We’ve done some impressive distances together, but I can’t even express how much I’m looking forward to just doing a trip where I’m not trying to put on miles like that every day.
[0:37:44 – 0:37:49] Adam: The first day will be the toughest day, and then after that, it’s going to be a real leisure vacation.
[0:37:49 – 0:37:49] Adam: Yeah.
[0:37:49 – 0:37:50] Erik: Yeah.
[0:37:50 – 0:37:53] Erik: I’m going to be coming back really tanned and relaxed.
[0:37:53 – 0:37:54] Erik: Yeah.
[0:37:54 – 0:37:58] Erik: If you didn’t have any gear, you could easily do it in a day if you got out early in June.
[0:38:00 – 0:38:04] Erik: The time I did it in a day, we were planning on camping, but we got to Bologna.
[0:38:05 – 0:38:07] Erik: It was like 1 in the afternoon.
[0:38:07 – 0:38:07] Erik: Yeah.
[0:38:08 – 0:38:12] Erik: And we were like, I didn’t really bring anything to do.
[0:38:12 – 0:38:14] Erik: We were just planning on taking a one-night trip.
[0:38:14 – 0:38:18] Adam: You guys could have philosophized about what do you put in the frying pan.
[0:38:18 – 0:38:19] Adam: Yes.
[0:38:19 – 0:38:21] Erik: What goes in the frying pan?
[0:38:21 – 0:38:22] Erik: What does not?
[0:38:22 – 0:38:26] Erik: No, that wasn’t necessarily somebody that I wanted to philosophize with.
[0:38:26 – 0:38:30] Adam: Well, that impacts your decisions too on where to stop and where to begin.
[0:38:31 – 0:38:31] Erik: Yeah.
[0:38:31 – 0:38:33] Erik: How much rock, paper, scissors can I play with this person?
[0:38:33 – 0:38:36] Adam: What kind of conversation can you have around the fire?
[0:38:36 – 0:38:36] Adam: Yeah.
[0:38:36 – 0:38:37] Adam: We have a great chemistry.
[0:38:38 – 0:38:40] Adam: We could stop at noon somewhere and I’d be happy.
[0:38:40 – 0:38:49] Adam: But yeah, if you’re somehow on a trip with somebody you’re not really wanting to hang out with in camp with no books, then yeah, keep on pushing.
[0:38:49 – 0:38:50] Erik: Yeah, keep on pushing.
[0:38:50 – 0:38:53] Erik: And then, yeah, we just ended up getting to a point where we’re like, wow.
[0:38:54 – 0:38:56] Erik: And just head on in, I guess.
[0:38:56 – 0:38:58] Erik: So I can’t recommend it enough.
[0:38:58 – 0:38:59] Erik: You’re going to have an awesome time.
[0:39:00 – 0:39:02] Adam: I will be bringing the field recorder.
[0:39:02 – 0:39:10] Adam: So the way the publication schedule is going to work out, we probably won’t have any live audio from the Frost River on this episode, unfortunately.
[0:39:10 – 0:39:19] Adam: But then we’re going to hopefully tag some of that on episode 18 when we get back, if we’ve recorded anything worthwhile, which we probably will.
[0:39:19 – 0:39:23] Erik: It’s going to be some amazing baloney stuff.
[0:39:24 – 0:39:27] Adam: Yeah, we’ll hopefully do some nice chatter on Bologna.
[0:39:27 – 0:39:28] Erik: Bologna campsite review.
[0:39:29 – 0:39:34] Adam: Natalie and I can read some Robert Frost poetry on Frost and then some Robert Bologna poetry on Bologna.
[0:39:34 – 0:39:39] Erik: Or maybe it’ll be your last will and testament that we’ll read on episode 99 when I have a new paddling partner.
[0:39:39 – 0:39:40] Erik: Yeah.
[0:39:41 – 0:39:43] Adam: Well, we lost both our paddles and the canoe.
[0:39:44 – 0:39:44] Adam: Beavers chewed them up.
[0:39:44 – 0:39:45] Adam: And all our lighters.
[0:39:46 – 0:39:46] Adam: Yeah.
[0:39:47 – 0:39:48] Adam: We’re just down here on Bologna.
[0:39:48 – 0:39:49] Adam: Good night, sweet prince.
[0:39:49 – 0:39:51] Adam: Oh, man.
[0:39:51 – 0:39:56] Erik: Bring some fresh batteries just in case so you can catalog your slow starvation.
[0:39:56 – 0:40:00] Adam: Yeah, if my arm is trapped, be twixt a boulder and a tree.
[0:40:00 – 0:40:02] Adam: I don’t even have a saw to take my arm off.
[0:40:03 – 0:40:06] Erik: We’ll use that audio to make it new and better.
[0:40:07 – 0:40:08] Erik: What was it, 100 and some hours?
[0:40:08 – 0:40:10] Adam: 108 hours.
[0:40:10 – 0:40:10] Adam: 108, yeah.
[0:40:10 – 0:40:14] Adam: Well, you have to at least survive for longer than that to up that.
[0:40:14 – 0:40:15] Adam: 108 hours.
[0:40:15 – 0:40:20] Adam: As long as I have 110 hours of batteries, that’s what we’re bringing on the trip.
[0:40:20 – 0:40:21] Erik: Yeah.
[0:40:21 – 0:40:22] Erik: Frost River.
[0:40:22 – 0:40:24] Erik: Keep your eyes on the water levels.
[0:40:24 – 0:40:25] Adam: You’re going to see animals.
[0:40:25 – 0:40:26] Adam: Keep your eyes on the maps.
[0:40:26 – 0:40:27] Adam: There’s a lot of twists in there.
[0:40:28 – 0:40:33] Adam: Like, yeah, as the crow flies, it doesn’t look like that much, but then you zoom in on the map, and it’s like, yeah.
[0:40:34 – 0:40:38] Adam: It’s just one of those where you’re snaking your way through the wilderness, and that’s exactly what we need right now.
[0:40:39 – 0:40:39] Adam: It’s almost…
[0:40:41 – 0:40:46] Erik: Almost just have to keep track of yourself with the portages, because there’s so many winds, I don’t even feel like the maps are that accurate.
[0:40:46 – 0:40:47] Erik: Yeah.
[0:40:47 – 0:40:49] Erik: Just based on how many twists and turns it makes.
[0:40:49 – 0:40:51] Adam: Well, I’ll definitely have a compass along, too, on this one.
[0:40:52 – 0:40:54] Adam: Usually I kind of just navigate real willy-nilly, but…
[0:40:56 – 0:40:59] Adam: Yeah, on this one, I’ll be paying a little closer attention.
[0:40:59 – 0:41:03] Adam: And then the way we have it set up, it’s like, well, if we make a wrong turn, we make a wrong turn.
[0:41:04 – 0:41:04] Adam: So what?
[0:41:04 – 0:41:05] Adam: I have a pretty good sense of direction.
[0:41:05 – 0:41:07] Adam: My internal needle is pretty spot on.
[0:41:07 – 0:41:09] Adam: You got that burp with the magnetic nose.
[0:41:09 – 0:41:11] Adam: Yeah, I know where Polaris is at all times.
[0:41:11 – 0:41:11] Adam: It’s right there.
[0:41:12 – 0:41:13] Erik: No.
[0:41:13 – 0:41:13] Adam: So.
[0:41:13 – 0:41:14] Erik: So.
[0:41:14 – 0:41:15] Erik: That’s Frost River.
[0:41:15 – 0:41:23] Erik: I think we’ll end it on that and then definitely look forward to some reports from the field.
[0:41:24 – 0:41:28] Erik: Be interesting to get your take on the Bologna Lake campsite.
[0:41:28 – 0:41:30] Erik: I know I was a fan of it when I stayed there.
[0:41:30 – 0:41:37] Erik: It’s more of a feeling than it is like, oh, it’s got these four tent pads, an amazing elevated site.
[0:41:37 – 0:41:37] Erik: It’s where you’re at.
[0:41:38 – 0:41:48] Adam: It’s not necessarily A pluses across the board on your rating scale, but it’s going to be an A plus and just ambient feeling of remoteness and wildness.
[0:41:48 – 0:41:52] Erik: One of the most remote sites feeling that I’ve ever experienced in the park.
[0:41:52 – 0:41:56] Adam: And this is coming from people who live in one of the most remote places on Earth.
[0:41:56 – 0:41:56] Adam: Yeah.
[0:41:56 – 0:41:58] Adam: Well, in the lower 48.
[0:41:58 – 0:41:59] Adam: Let’s qualify it a little.
[0:42:00 – 0:42:01] Adam: But yeah, no, I’m super excited.
[0:42:01 – 0:42:04] Erik: We’re not out in the nuclear test ranges of Nevada.
[0:42:04 – 0:42:06] Erik: But yeah, you guys know what we mean.
[0:42:08 – 0:42:09] Erik: So that’s where you’re going.
[0:42:09 – 0:42:14] Erik: I don’t necessarily have a trip upcoming that I can say for sure.
[0:42:14 – 0:42:20] Erik: I haven’t decided on the guided trip that I’m taking yet where exactly I’m going to go.
[0:42:20 – 0:42:22] Adam: You’re going to take them to Tip Ripper.
[0:42:22 – 0:42:25] Erik: I’m going to go to Tip Ripper or not, but that is still up in the air.
[0:42:26 – 0:42:27] Adam: So you have a guided trip.
[0:42:27 – 0:42:28] Adam: You just don’t know where yet.
[0:42:28 – 0:42:29] Erik: Not sure where.
[0:42:29 – 0:42:29] Erik: That’s okay.
[0:42:29 – 0:42:30] Erik: I haven’t decided.
[0:42:30 – 0:42:31] Adam: That’s the new wave of things.
[0:42:31 – 0:42:34] Adam: You don’t make your decision until like the week of your trip.
[0:42:34 – 0:42:34] Adam: Yes.
[0:42:34 – 0:42:36] Adam: And then you just get whatever permit you want based on the weather.
[0:42:36 – 0:42:37] Erik: Well, and they’ve been in contact.
[0:42:37 – 0:42:38] Erik: This is 2018.
[0:42:38 – 0:42:41] Erik: And they’ve said, you know, they’ve gone from five days to four.
[0:42:41 – 0:42:41] Erik: Yeah.
[0:42:41 – 0:42:42] Erik: And then so we’re kind of just waiting.
[0:42:42 – 0:42:48] Adam: The old school of doing things would just be to pick your permit, the day permits come available, and you go to the Frost River no matter what.
[0:42:49 – 0:42:53] Adam: And nowadays people are like, well, you know, it’s the modern age.
[0:42:53 – 0:42:54] Adam: We can just pick our trip the day of.
[0:42:54 – 0:42:59] Erik: But let’s see where all y’all are heading this year.
[0:43:01 – 0:43:04] Erik: And we got some responses.
[0:43:05 – 0:43:05] Erik: Not too much.
[0:43:05 – 0:43:07] Adam: We’re here on Facebook.
[0:43:07 – 0:43:11] Adam: We put a nice picture of the big waves coming out of Cache Bay.
[0:43:11 – 0:43:13] Erik: That was the last time we were on the water last year.
[0:43:13 – 0:43:14] Adam: That was the end of last season.
[0:43:15 – 0:43:17] Erik: That picture makes me anxious.
[0:43:17 – 0:43:17] Adam: Yeah, I know.
[0:43:17 – 0:43:19] Adam: I’m still a little nervous looking at that picture.
[0:43:19 – 0:43:22] Erik: We got a couple of people heading to Sawbill.
[0:43:22 – 0:43:25] Erik: Nathan, heading to Sawbill in a couple of weeks on Facebook.
[0:43:26 – 0:43:26] Erik: Prove it.
[0:43:27 – 0:43:29] Erik: I don’t know what that means, but yeah, I’d like you to prove it.
[0:43:30 – 0:43:31] Adam: Please prove it, Nathan.
[0:43:31 – 0:43:32] Adam: Let’s see the permit.
[0:43:32 – 0:43:35] Adam: I wanted people to actually be posting pictures of their permits.
[0:43:36 – 0:43:39] Adam: The day I got our Frost River permit, I put a picture of that online.
[0:43:39 – 0:43:43] Erik: Next to whatever today’s date is on a newspaper, like a ransom.
[0:43:43 – 0:43:43] Adam: Right.
[0:43:44 – 0:43:47] Adam: Ethan, going to Entry Point 37 in a few weeks.
[0:43:47 – 0:43:49] Adam: Might stay at Sawbill before we head in.
[0:43:49 – 0:43:51] Adam: Never been to that part of the park yet.
[0:43:52 – 0:43:54] Adam: Well, if you’ve never been down there, it’s a real treat.
[0:43:54 – 0:43:56] Adam: It’s somewhere everybody should visit.
[0:43:56 – 0:43:57] Adam: Sawbill is a gorgeous place.
[0:43:57 – 0:44:00] Adam: Those people run a really nice outfitter down there.
[0:44:01 – 0:44:04] Adam: It’s a great place to get a beer after a trip or something.
[0:44:05 – 0:44:07] Erik: Everything you could possibly imagine they have in that store.
[0:44:07 – 0:44:08] Adam: Yeah, you got camp.
[0:44:08 – 0:44:11] Adam: They got the camping right there, too, which is nice for people getting up late.
[0:44:11 – 0:44:16] Adam: I just talked to somebody in town doing a sawbill a couple days ago, and they’re coming up from Duluth.
[0:44:16 – 0:44:19] Adam: So they’re like, we just camp right there, and then you head out first thing in the morning.
[0:44:20 – 0:44:21] Adam: It’s always a nice thing to do.
[0:44:21 – 0:44:23] Erik: Yeah, it’s a really nice campground.
[0:44:24 – 0:44:25] Erik: Really nice old-growth pines.
[0:44:26 – 0:44:26] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:44:26 – 0:44:27] Adam: It’s gorgeous.
[0:44:27 – 0:44:29] Adam: Plus, they just repaved the Sawbill Trail.
[0:44:30 – 0:44:31] Adam: It’s literally the nicest road in the county now.
[0:44:32 – 0:44:36] Erik: It’s a little bit farther up, but there’s still a good section of dirt between where it ends.
[0:44:36 – 0:44:37] Adam: But the paved section, holy moly.
[0:44:37 – 0:44:39] Erik: The paved section is, yeah.
[0:44:39 – 0:44:39] Erik: You can do 90.
[0:44:40 – 0:44:41] Erik: You can get your rollerblades.
[0:44:41 – 0:44:41] Erik: Yeah.
[0:44:42 – 0:44:49] Erik: Or your roller cross-country skis and poles, and you can have a heck of a time blasted on that.
[0:44:49 – 0:44:49] Adam: Sawbill.
[0:44:49 – 0:44:51] Adam: You can’t ever go wrong down in Sawbill.
[0:44:51 – 0:44:53] Adam: Great area of the park, and we will get there.
[0:44:54 – 0:44:55] Adam: Trust us, listeners.
[0:44:55 – 0:44:55] Adam: We will get there.
[0:44:55 – 0:44:56] Erik: Yeah.
[0:44:56 – 0:45:01] Erik: We’d like to get a little bit more of a recon on some of the campsites in the area, but we still have a few trips down there.
[0:45:01 – 0:45:08] Adam: Yeah, we don’t have the raw data on those campsites that we would like to have before recording, but it’s somewhere we’ve been a lot, and…
[0:45:08 – 0:45:09] Adam: Yeah, trust us.
[0:45:09 – 0:45:11] Adam: We will get there as a podcast.
[0:45:11 – 0:45:11] Adam: Hang with us.
[0:45:12 – 0:45:13] Erik: Bear with us.
[0:45:14 – 0:45:17] Erik: Scott, heading to Poplar Horseshoe at the beginning of September.
[0:45:17 – 0:45:18] Adam: Not a bad time to hit that.
[0:45:19 – 0:45:23] Adam: Probably not going to be as nuts as the middle of the year, and it’s a beautiful area.
[0:45:24 – 0:45:25] Erik: Nice walleye fishing in there.
[0:45:25 – 0:45:26] Adam: Good walleye fishing.
[0:45:26 – 0:45:28] Adam: Great possibility to see a moose down in there.
[0:45:29 – 0:45:29] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:45:30 – 0:45:31] Adam: Horseshoe’s a nice lake.
[0:45:31 – 0:45:32] Adam: I like that.
[0:45:32 – 0:45:35] Erik: Definitely.
[0:45:35 – 0:45:40] Adam: Tori questions whether or not we’re going to be paddling into the rollers in the picture we were describing.
[0:45:41 – 0:45:47] Adam: But, yeah, we don’t really want to be paddling into those rollers or with the rollers.
[0:45:47 – 0:45:47] Adam: Agreed.
[0:45:48 – 0:45:53] Erik: Yeah, we were, I guess, fortunately and unfortunately going with those rollers.
[0:45:53 – 0:45:53] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:45:54 – 0:45:56] Erik: It didn’t make me feel any better.
[0:45:58 – 0:46:05] Adam: But Mikkel Schwartz is heading to – oops, I shouldn’t have said that last name.
[0:46:05 – 0:46:06] Adam: Fact check us, Mikkel.
[0:46:07 – 0:46:08] Adam: Did I say your last name right?
[0:46:08 – 0:46:09] Adam: I’m sorry.
[0:46:09 – 0:46:10] Adam: It doesn’t matter.
[0:46:11 – 0:46:14] Adam: They’re heading to Crystal Lake on Friday to find some Lakers.
[0:46:14 – 0:46:14] Adam: Today?
[0:46:15 – 0:46:17] Erik: They might be out there right now slaying.
[0:46:17 – 0:46:17] Adam: Oh, man, Mikel.
[0:46:17 – 0:46:20] Adam: Maybe that was the guy I ran into at the beer store yesterday.
[0:46:20 – 0:46:25] Adam: He said they were heading in Alder and then Crystal or Piers.
[0:46:26 – 0:46:27] Adam: So beautiful area.
[0:46:27 – 0:46:28] Adam: That had to be the guy.
[0:46:29 – 0:46:29] Adam: Come on.
[0:46:29 – 0:46:30] Adam: How many people could be going to Crystal today?
[0:46:31 – 0:46:31] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:46:32 – 0:46:34] Erik: Maybe there’s going to be a run on Trout and Crystal.
[0:46:35 – 0:46:36] Adam: There’s only two campsites.
[0:46:36 – 0:46:39] Erik: Yeah, we’ve never… And there’s a million trout.
[0:46:39 – 0:46:42] Erik: There’s three campsites on Crystal, two on Piers.
[0:46:42 – 0:46:43] Adam: I think there is a reply in here, too.
[0:46:43 – 0:46:47] Adam: Yeah, somebody else is heading the same direction soon, and they’re like, hey, let us know.
[0:46:47 – 0:46:47] Adam: Of course.
[0:46:48 – 0:46:50] Erik: Unfortunately, we did not load that comment before we went off-grid.
[0:46:50 – 0:46:52] Adam: That’s what social media is for.
[0:46:52 – 0:46:54] Adam: We’ll keep everybody posted.
[0:46:54 – 0:46:55] Adam: So let us know how you did, Mikel.
[0:46:55 – 0:46:59] Adam: By the time you hear this, you should be out and back into Wi-Fi.
[0:46:59 – 0:47:07] Erik: Yeah, so we’ve got some comments on Reddit as well, which, again, in the off-grid studio here, that means they’re printed.
[0:47:07 – 0:47:07] Erik: You hear that?
[0:47:07 – 0:47:12] Erik: I printed a page off of Reddit, and I’m reading it on a printed sheet of paper.
[0:47:12 – 0:47:13] Erik: Printed Reddit.
[0:47:14 – 0:47:16] Erik: Before we get to that, we do have Fact Checker.
[0:47:16 – 0:47:18] Erik: We’ve got three Fact Checkers.
[0:47:18 – 0:47:18] Erik: Wow, yeah.
[0:47:18 – 0:47:19] Erik: Stick with us.
[0:47:19 – 0:47:21] Erik: We got called out on some stuff.
[0:47:22 – 0:47:23] Adam: Yeah, no, there’s a few.
[0:47:23 – 0:47:30] Adam: I was listening to last week’s episode, and as I was listening to us call for a fact checker, I was like, yeah, I think I know the answers now.
[0:47:30 – 0:47:31] Adam: But we’ll get to that.
[0:47:32 – 0:47:35] Erik: So we’ll start with darkhorse__at__work.
[0:47:37 – 0:47:51] Erik: Heading up in one week, entering at entry point 54 on Seagull, straight up to Sag, and then around American Point, eventually making our way down to none other than the south arm of Knife.
[0:47:51 – 0:47:52] Erik: Huzzah.
[0:47:52 – 0:47:52] Erik: Nice.
[0:47:52 – 0:47:53] Adam: Huzzah, huzzah.
[0:47:54 – 0:48:00] Erik: Probably via Esther, then down to Keck before making our way back to Seagull through Ogish, Jasper, and Alpine.
[0:48:01 – 0:48:02] Erik: That’s a solid trip.
[0:48:02 – 0:48:03] Erik: That’s our classic.
[0:48:04 – 0:48:05] Erik: That’s our South Arm and Eiffel out there.
[0:48:05 – 0:48:07] Adam: Probably going to get a lot of rock bass on that trip.
[0:48:07 – 0:48:07] Adam: I’m pretty jealous.
[0:48:07 – 0:48:09] Adam: You’re going to slay so many rock bass.
[0:48:09 – 0:48:10] Adam: Pretty good.
[0:48:10 – 0:48:13] Adam: Yeah, can’t go wrong with that.
[0:48:13 – 0:48:15] Adam: That’s probably the leader in the clubhouse.
[0:48:15 – 0:48:16] Erik: It has the most upvotes.
[0:48:17 – 0:48:17] Adam: It does.
[0:48:17 – 0:48:19] Adam: That’s why it’s at the top of this printout.
[0:48:20 – 0:48:20] Adam: Thanks, Reddit.
[0:48:23 – 0:48:24] Adam: Codemouse, our friend Codemouse.
[0:48:24 – 0:48:27] Adam: I have two trips planned, both out of Sawbill.
[0:48:27 – 0:48:30] Adam: One trip I’ve planned is at the end of July, four or five day trip.
[0:48:31 – 0:48:32] Adam: We plan to go to Alton Zenith.
[0:48:32 – 0:48:32] Erik: Yes.
[0:48:33 – 0:48:33] Erik: Nice.
[0:48:34 – 0:48:36] Adam: Masaba, Dent, and Loop background.
[0:48:37 – 0:48:38] Adam: This will be my first time in that area.
[0:48:39 – 0:48:43] Adam: My second trip will just be a long weekend, probably just go from Sawbill to Smoker Burnt.
[0:48:44 – 0:49:08] Adam: just do a bit of fishing i haven’t been to the bwca since 2012 i’m very excited to finally have the time to go back it really is sometimes it’s about having the time to do it and unfortunately there are years where you just don’t make the time especially if you live in parts south so um welcome back we’re glad you’re able to get back up a couple of nice trips you got to look for that downed plane in zenith yeah look for the it’s in the
[0:49:16 – 0:49:27] Erik: reddit 0224 that’s the username phone to quetico in june ah planning a short relaxing trip to conch and conch falls starting from him
[0:49:29 – 0:49:32] Erik: Not planning to travel too hard and get in too layover days.
[0:49:33 – 0:49:40] Erik: If anyone knows of any pictographs, which I don’t know if I do in that area, but if anybody else does, Reddit0224.
[0:49:40 – 0:49:42] Erik: That sounds like a burner account.
[0:49:42 – 0:49:43] Erik: Right.
[0:49:43 – 0:49:46] Erik: He’s embarrassed about his trip to Conky Falls.
[0:49:47 – 0:49:48] Erik: Yeah, don’t want to use your real account.
[0:49:48 – 0:49:49] Erik: Sorry, we’re not.
[0:49:50 – 0:49:51] Erik: We’re laying it down a little thick.
[0:49:51 – 0:49:53] Erik: But anyway, that is a cool area.
[0:49:53 – 0:50:01] Erik: Nice quick access from Nim there on the north, north, as far north as you can get in Quetico.
[0:50:01 – 0:50:06] Erik: So I’m assuming there’s a little bit of a drive involved there.
[0:50:07 – 0:50:11] Adam: He’s hoping to impress the nieces and nephews, and I’m sure they will be impressed.
[0:50:11 – 0:50:12] Adam: Enjoy this season.
[0:50:12 – 0:50:14] Adam: What a cool aunt or uncle you are.
[0:50:15 – 0:50:17] Erik: Also his finishing words there.
[0:50:17 – 0:50:17] Adam: Enjoy the season.
[0:50:18 – 0:50:18] Erik: Yes.
[0:50:20 – 0:50:20] Adam: Canoe 2.
[0:50:21 – 0:50:22] Adam: Hey, everybody.
[0:50:22 – 0:50:24] Adam: I’m heading into the south arm of knife.
[0:50:24 – 0:50:24] Adam: Yes.
[0:50:24 – 0:50:25] Adam: What do you know?
[0:50:25 – 0:50:28] Adam: Pow, pow, pow, pow, party horn.
[0:50:30 – 0:50:32] Adam: Through Moose Lake, entry point 25.
[0:50:32 – 0:50:35] Adam: Tomorrow, he’s in there or she’s in there right now.
[0:50:35 – 0:50:36] Erik: Wow, they’re out there right now.
[0:50:36 – 0:50:37] Adam: Oh, man.
[0:50:37 – 0:50:38] Adam: So jealous.
[0:50:38 – 0:50:39] Adam: Let’s just drop the mics and go.
[0:50:39 – 0:50:40] Erik: Yeah.
[0:50:40 – 0:50:43] Adam: Quick four-day solo for some Lakers and some solitude.
[0:50:44 – 0:50:45] Adam: You will find both.
[0:50:45 – 0:50:46] Adam: Our friend, I’m sure you will.
[0:50:47 – 0:50:51] Adam: Looking forward to trying out my new underquilt, tarp, twig stove, and the portage pack.
[0:50:52 – 0:50:54] Adam: Can’t wait to eat some trout over the fire grate.
[0:50:55 – 0:50:56] Adam: Huzzah, huzzah.
[0:50:56 – 0:50:57] Adam: Very cool.
[0:50:57 – 0:50:58] Adam: I love it.
[0:50:58 – 0:50:59] Adam: Twig stove.
[0:50:59 – 0:51:00] Adam: I’ve heard about these things.
[0:51:00 – 0:51:01] Adam: I kind of want to get one.
[0:51:02 – 0:51:06] Erik: Yeah, we’ll have to follow up and see how Canoe 2’s trip went.
[0:51:06 – 0:51:08] Adam: Oh, the Underquilt 2.
[0:51:08 – 0:51:11] Adam: Yeah, they’re in the Church of the Hammock.
[0:51:11 – 0:51:12] Adam: Welcome.
[0:51:13 – 0:51:13] Erik: It’s a church.
[0:51:14 – 0:51:15] Adam: It’s a hammock church.
[0:51:15 – 0:51:17] Adam: I hope they really get into the Lakers.
[0:51:17 – 0:51:17] Adam: I’m sure they will.
[0:51:18 – 0:51:21] Erik: Capsus, two trips planned.
[0:51:21 – 0:51:23] Erik: That’s awesome to start out there.
[0:51:23 – 0:51:24] Erik: Uh-oh, I already see it.
[0:51:24 – 0:51:26] Erik: I read ahead and I can already see it.
[0:51:26 – 0:51:26] Erik: Uh-oh.
[0:51:26 – 0:51:28] Erik: Next Thursday to Mountain.
[0:51:30 – 0:51:31] Erik: They might be out on Mountain right now.
[0:51:31 – 0:51:32] Erik: Look at this.
[0:51:32 – 0:51:34] Adam: All these people are out on trips right now.
[0:51:34 – 0:51:34] Adam: We’re sitting.
[0:51:34 – 0:51:35] Adam: We’re just sitting in here.
[0:51:35 – 0:51:36] Erik: We’re just sitting in here reading about it.
[0:51:37 – 0:51:37] Erik: Drinking beer.
[0:51:39 – 0:51:41] Erik: Next Thursday to Mountain for Lake Trout with my eldest son.
[0:51:42 – 0:51:45] Erik: Thank you, Clearwater Historic Lodge, not for your smiley face.
[0:51:45 – 0:51:46] Erik: Oh.
[0:51:46 – 0:51:47] Erik: Maybe I ran into him.
[0:51:47 – 0:51:48] Erik: Yeah.
[0:51:48 – 0:51:54] Erik: Anyway, and then the next trip is the first week of August to none other than the South Arm of Knife.
[0:51:54 – 0:51:55] Adam: I guess the word is out.
[0:51:55 – 0:51:58] Adam: Somebody’s been talking out of school on that South Arm of Knife.
[0:51:58 – 0:51:59] Adam: I guess.
[0:51:59 – 0:52:22] Erik: guess i don’t know who that would be yeah they were there a couple years ago when a bad storm came through and had to cut the trip short a grand slam would be too tough on the lakers true but they say that they are hoping for a triple yeah well you can get the grand slam with the rock bass as your fourth yes there you go there you go the real yeah going out to say uh where are we at here
[0:52:22 – 0:52:23] Erik: Capsus.
[0:52:23 – 0:52:24] Adam: Capsus.
[0:52:25 – 0:52:25] Erik: What is this, paper?
[0:52:26 – 0:52:26] Adam: Ink?
[0:52:27 – 0:52:29] Adam: Going out with dad and his sons.
[0:52:30 – 0:52:30] Adam: That’s cool.
[0:52:31 – 0:52:31] Adam: Yeah.
[0:52:31 – 0:52:32] Adam: Especially out on the mountain.
[0:52:33 – 0:52:35] Adam: I wish I could go with my dad and my sons.
[0:52:35 – 0:52:37] Adam: Fortunately, I don’t have any sons.
[0:52:37 – 0:52:39] Adam: I just have a dog and a cat.
[0:52:39 – 0:52:40] Erik: You have a dad, though.
[0:52:40 – 0:52:41] Adam: I do have a dad.
[0:52:41 – 0:52:42] Adam: He can come out.
[0:52:42 – 0:52:47] Adam: Last time we camped together was out on Daniels, and we caught a massive bass.
[0:52:47 – 0:52:48] Adam: That’s right.
[0:52:48 – 0:52:49] Adam: It’s always special getting out with family, though.
[0:52:50 – 0:52:50] Adam: Good job.
[0:52:52 – 0:52:59] Adam: Muddyfoot 10 to 22 is after actively raising our three kids who are now late teens.
[0:52:59 – 0:53:04] Adam: I’m planning my dream trip up to the BWCA for my first and hopefully one of many canoe trips.
[0:53:04 – 0:53:04] Adam: Wow.
[0:53:05 – 0:53:06] Adam: Very jealous.
[0:53:06 – 0:53:12] Adam: I’m in the great state of Ohio and found this cool podcast planning my trip to the BW.
[0:53:12 – 0:53:13] Adam: I wonder what that was.
[0:53:13 – 0:53:22] Adam: Anyways, he will be up in late September or early October for six to seven days on the water, leaning towards base camp and on caribou and seeing which way the wind takes me.
[0:53:22 – 0:53:23] Adam: That’s always a good way to go.
[0:53:24 – 0:53:25] Adam: No hurry.
[0:53:25 – 0:53:27] Adam: I love canoeing and fishing and cast iron skillets.
[0:53:27 – 0:53:28] Adam: Nice.
[0:53:28 – 0:53:30] Adam: This is literally like… Did you write that?
[0:53:30 – 0:53:31] Adam: Yeah, that’s actually me.
[0:53:31 – 0:53:32] Adam: Yeah.
[0:53:32 – 0:53:32] Adam: Yeah.
[0:53:32 – 0:53:33] Adam: No, they’re literally trying to like…
[0:53:35 – 0:54:02] Adam: give me goosebumps right now with that comment it’s everything that i hold dear to my heart yeah those are the the trips into coetico we’ve taken has basically been like well i don’t really want to paddle against the headwind let’s just go this way yeah it doesn’t matter no you know sometimes the best trip is just you know we’ve often said this like the best what’s the best campsite like it’s like it’s wherever you want to stop for the day that’s the best campsite yeah and so what’s the best route whichever the wind takes you yeah go with the wind go with the flow
[0:54:03 – 0:54:06] Erik: I do like this take from Dew042.
[0:54:06 – 0:54:08] Adam: Our good friend Dew042.
[0:54:08 – 0:54:11] Adam: We ought to have Dew on at this point.
[0:54:12 – 0:54:17] Erik: Come on, talk to us about the hiking, which I kind of like because everybody else’s trips are on the water.
[0:54:17 – 0:54:18] Erik: Yeah, hiking trips.
[0:54:18 – 0:54:23] Erik: But Dew, as I solo more often these days, I’ve been doing more hiking.
[0:54:23 – 0:54:28] Erik: The trails are rugged, but I’ve found some of the more hidden gems in the park on them in the past five years.
[0:54:28 – 0:54:29] Erik: Yes.
[0:54:29 – 0:54:32] Erik: Planning on completing the Sioux Hustler Trail later this year.
[0:54:32 – 0:54:37] Erik: Last year, I did part of the trail with my puppy, and now he’s a great trail walker.
[0:54:37 – 0:54:37] Erik: Loves it.
[0:54:38 – 0:54:38] Erik: Cascade.
[0:54:38 – 0:54:43] Erik: Sorry, the Devil’s Cascade is pretty amazing, as is the campsite perched on top.
[0:54:43 – 0:54:47] Erik: One of the great parts of hiking in the BWC is no worry about a permit.
[0:54:47 – 0:54:48] Erik: They are always open.
[0:54:48 – 0:54:49] Adam: That’s pretty much true.
[0:54:50 – 0:54:52] Erik: And if Solitude is the name of the game, that’s…
[0:54:53 – 0:54:54] Erik: The way to do it.
[0:54:54 – 0:54:54] Adam: Yeah.
[0:54:54 – 0:54:55] Adam: For sure.
[0:54:55 – 0:54:55] Adam: Hiking.
[0:54:56 – 0:54:56] Erik: Yeah.
[0:54:56 – 0:54:58] Adam: Border rot trail, CAC, Sue Hustler.
[0:54:59 – 0:55:01] Adam: Can’t argue with anything our friend has said here.
[0:55:01 – 0:55:03] Erik: No, that’s a, yeah, that’s the way to do it.
[0:55:03 – 0:55:08] Erik: If you’re up here in mid July to mid August, that’s the only time you can come up.
[0:55:08 – 0:55:09] Erik: If you’re on the water.
[0:55:10 – 0:55:10] Erik: So be it.
[0:55:10 – 0:55:20] Erik: But if you really want to come up that time of year and know that you’re going to not have to worry about permits last second trip or have to worry about campsite availability, just get out on the trails.
[0:55:21 – 0:55:22] Adam: Yeah, absolutely.
[0:55:22 – 0:55:24] Erik: There’s tons of hiking only campsites.
[0:55:24 – 0:55:30] Adam: Yeah, I think I mentioned earlier, like we’re not going to bring the pup and I’m like, well, maybe we’ll just do a superior hiking trail trip with her.
[0:55:30 – 0:55:49] Adam: for her first experience so you don’t have to deal with the boat so much and getting her used to the whole idea of a tent or a hammock setup just sitting around a fire so yeah you said you know a hiking trip of the pup is a great idea so yeah i’m glad to hear it and i’ll let you read this one but it does this leads into our fact checker of the week okay then
[0:55:50 – 0:55:51] Adam: Yeah, hopalicious.
[0:55:52 – 0:56:01] Adam: End of June, I’ll be heading into Entry Point 25, Paddle to Ensign Lake, Good Smalley, Largie, Walley, and Pike on that lake.
[0:56:02 – 0:56:03] Adam: Pretty easy to get to as well.
[0:56:03 – 0:56:05] Adam: Well, that’s another way to get the Grand Slam.
[0:56:06 – 0:56:06] Adam: Largies.
[0:56:06 – 0:56:07] Adam: Largies.
[0:56:07 – 0:56:08] Adam: I love the term largies.
[0:56:08 – 0:56:09] Adam: That’s pretty great.
[0:56:10 – 0:56:19] Adam: Also, here’s a link to a video of catching smallies through the ice, which we did reference last week that neither of us have ever seen or heard of anybody catching a smallmouth bass
[0:56:20 – 0:56:42] Adam: while ice fishing and we were kind of joking around how they just go and hibernate with the snapping turtles and so forth so i figured we were probably gonna somebody we had kind of asked for it like if anybody knows of this happening we’d love to hear it and i know hopalicious hopalicious called it and our friends at tuscarora sent a picture proof a proof that they had caught a smallie through the ice so yeah there’s apparently a video out there
[0:56:43 – 0:56:44] Adam: I’m not surprised.
[0:56:44 – 0:56:46] Adam: I am surprised.
[0:56:46 – 0:56:47] Erik: I was surprised.
[0:56:47 – 0:56:49] Erik: I’d never heard of it or seen it before.
[0:56:49 – 0:56:51] Adam: I’ve spent a third of my adult life ice fishing.
[0:56:51 – 0:56:54] Adam: I’ve never heard of or seen a smallie come through the ice.
[0:56:54 – 0:56:56] Adam: So I’m glad to be wrong on this one.
[0:56:57 – 0:56:58] Adam: I figured it had to have happened, right?
[0:56:58 – 0:56:59] Adam: I mean, I’ve caught a stick.
[0:57:00 – 0:57:01] Adam: People are catching moon eyes.
[0:57:02 – 0:57:03] Adam: You never know what you’re going to catch when you’re out fishing.
[0:57:04 – 0:57:05] Adam: So it does happen.
[0:57:06 – 0:57:07] Adam: Thank you for the video, Link.
[0:57:07 – 0:57:08] Adam: Hopalicious.
[0:57:08 – 0:57:33] Erik: yeah what what are your what are your fact check us again for uh next week what are your hot tips and tricks for for smallmouth fishing through the ice or is it just random and you’re fishing for something else i don’t know what you could do i guess probably a very very slow and methodical approach gary yamamoto just laying on the bottom with a six foot rod just fishing they just come along and kind of slurp it up yeah
[0:57:34 – 0:57:38] Erik: So that was the first of three fact checkers.
[0:57:38 – 0:57:52] Erik: Number two, I don’t know if you saw this, but I think it came in a direct message to me on Reddit where somebody was trying to look for one of the colors of lures.
[0:57:53 – 0:57:54] Erik: that we were talking about last week?
[0:57:54 – 0:57:56] Adam: Yeah, we probably just made up lure names.
[0:57:56 – 0:57:57] Adam: Well, I basically did.
[0:57:57 – 0:57:58] Erik: Yeah, Cold Steel.
[0:57:58 – 0:57:59] Adam: Cold Steel.
[0:57:59 – 0:58:00] Adam: I called it Cold Steel.
[0:58:01 – 0:58:02] Erik: No, it’s Hot Steel.
[0:58:02 – 0:58:02] Erik: Hot Steel.
[0:58:02 – 0:58:03] Erik: It’s Hot Steel.
[0:58:03 – 0:58:07] Erik: The X-Rap color is Hot Steel, although Rapala…
[0:58:08 – 0:58:09] Erik: Fact checker.
[0:58:09 – 0:58:10] Erik: Cold steel sounds way cooler.
[0:58:11 – 0:58:15] Adam: Well, I think I was calling them like HJ9s, and I’m not even sure that that’s a real size.
[0:58:15 – 0:58:21] Adam: The Husky Jerks come in odd numbers, but then like the floating Rapalas are in even numbers.
[0:58:21 – 0:58:22] Adam: And we’re talking millimeters here, folks.
[0:58:22 – 0:58:23] Adam: Or centimeters.
[0:58:23 – 0:58:24] Adam: It’s centimeters.
[0:58:24 – 0:58:25] Erik: Folks.
[0:58:25 – 0:58:52] Adam: yeah so i mean yeah we were really i was listening to the episode i’m like i’m pretty sure oh i’ll fact check myself too i called it like a joe booker like depth booker it’s a depth raider everybody else listening was probably like depth raider he’s talking about depth like i couldn’t it wouldn’t come to me i was listening to it the other day it’s a depth raider i’ve caught oh many a huge pike on that large musky lure um actually never caught a musky on it but it’s a fine crankbait so
[0:58:52 – 0:58:56] Adam: Yeah, talking lures when you’ve been not open water fishing for a long time.
[0:58:57 – 0:59:00] Adam: Heck, I couldn’t even find my tackle box today.
[0:59:00 – 0:59:03] Adam: I was just trying to find a couple spoons or something, and they’re in a bin somewhere.
[0:59:03 – 0:59:04] Adam: We just moved.
[0:59:04 – 0:59:07] Erik: We were talking about how small our tackle box is at this point.
[0:59:07 – 0:59:13] Adam: I do have older tackle boxes with stuff, but I have my main one tackle box with the six lures I like.
[0:59:14 – 0:59:18] Adam: I couldn’t find it this morning, and I had to get going, so I just didn’t bring them.
[0:59:18 – 0:59:20] Adam: But that’s okay.
[0:59:20 – 0:59:23] Adam: Sounds like the Lakers aren’t quite going yet.
[0:59:23 – 0:59:25] Adam: Sorry to whoever went up the mountain.
[0:59:25 – 0:59:26] Adam: They’ll probably get some.
[0:59:26 – 0:59:27] Erik: They probably will.
[0:59:27 – 0:59:28] Erik: This was like three or four days ago.
[0:59:28 – 0:59:31] Adam: Yeah, so we kind of butchered the lures a little bit.
[0:59:32 – 0:59:32] Adam: Hot steel?
[0:59:32 – 0:59:34] Adam: It still doesn’t make any sense.
[0:59:34 – 0:59:34] Adam: It looks cold.
[0:59:35 – 0:59:39] Adam: Yeah, cold steel is… You’re talking about the navy blue one with the little chartreuse stripe?
[0:59:39 – 0:59:39] Adam: Yeah.
[0:59:39 – 0:59:40] Adam: That’s hot steel?
[0:59:40 – 0:59:40] Adam: Yeah.
[0:59:40 – 0:59:41] Adam: That is hot steel.
[0:59:41 – 0:59:42] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:59:42 – 0:59:43] Adam: Maybe Rapala needs to get fact-checked.
[0:59:43 – 0:59:44] Adam: I think we should fact-check Rapala.
[0:59:44 – 0:59:45] Adam: That doesn’t make any damn sense.
[0:59:48 – 0:59:51] Erik: That’s why I said cold steel, because I was like, well, hot steel is just like magma.
[0:59:51 – 0:59:53] Adam: Let’s compromise and call it blue steel.
[0:59:54 – 0:59:54] Adam: You know, you give them a look.
[0:59:55 – 0:59:55] Adam: Yeah, right?
[0:59:55 – 0:59:56] Adam: Blue steel.
[0:59:56 – 0:59:59] Adam: Too bad we don’t have a video in the studio, because we both just did blue steel.
[1:00:00 – 1:00:00] Adam: Yeah.
[1:00:00 – 1:00:01] Adam: Hashtag Zoolander.
[1:00:01 – 1:00:26] Erik: hashtag blue steel all right so what’s the third factor what else do we mess up this one came from one person and one person only directly and that was my wife oh she fact-checked us geologist wife yeah we’re she will be on one of these days she wants to do a geology episode but she fact-checked me on our claim that it was probably me i’m not trying to throw you under the bus here well we’re a team
[1:00:26 – 1:00:27] Erik: Yeah, right.
[1:00:27 – 1:00:28] Erik: So we’re both to blame.
[1:00:28 – 1:00:29] Erik: Thank you for taking that.
[1:00:29 – 1:00:32] Adam: Yeah, I mean, I should have caught it right away, obviously.
[1:00:32 – 1:00:33] Adam: What is it?
[1:00:33 – 1:00:43] Erik: I think it was last week or the week before we were talking about how we brought in chips in one of those big Nalgene’s to keep them crunchy.
[1:00:43 – 1:00:44] Adam: It’s like a mayo container.
[1:00:44 – 1:00:47] Erik: It’s like a big industrial size Nalgene.
[1:00:47 – 1:00:47] Erik: Yeah.
[1:00:48 – 1:00:49] Erik: With a big, huge wide mouth.
[1:00:49 – 1:00:50] Erik: Yeah.
[1:00:50 – 1:00:51] Erik: That was her idea.
[1:00:52 – 1:01:14] Adam: oh yeah well that’s uh that’s a fact checker that qualifies so credit where credit is due tori good idea yeah that’s a great idea so we don’t get to take credit for that one but we did you came up with the egg idea eggs you know if you’re gonna put chips in a big jug why not put eggs in there too fill one of those big eggs and the chips together although now that i’m saying it
[1:01:15 – 1:01:32] Adam: maybe good maybe so yeah fact checker it’s the next thing it’s the next omelet is the next omelet eggs with little chip bits in them nobody’s improved on the omelet in decades here we go people omelet with chip bits yeah fact we’ve been shocked would be proud
[1:01:34 – 1:01:35] Erik: And I think that’s about it.
[1:01:36 – 1:01:39] Adam: Yeah, well, we’re going to have about a perfect 60 minutes here.
[1:01:39 – 1:01:39] Erik: Cool hour.
[1:01:40 – 1:01:44] Adam: We’re not going to have any field audio for you on this episode, but yeah, as we mentioned, hopefully next week.
[1:01:45 – 1:01:47] Adam: So I just hope you enjoyed all the nice bird sounds back here.
[1:01:47 – 1:01:48] Adam: What do we have out right now?
[1:01:49 – 1:01:50] Adam: Did I just hear a thrush?
[1:01:50 – 1:01:51] Erik: I haven’t heard any thrushes yet.
[1:01:56 – 1:01:56] Erik: I don’t know.
[1:01:57 – 1:02:00] Erik: I used to know them all, and then you just forgot.
[1:02:00 – 1:02:03] Erik: We’ll get our bird man on one of these days, too.
[1:02:03 – 1:02:06] Adam: We’re not really good with the bird calls.
[1:02:06 – 1:02:11] Adam: I can identify them more by sight now, but… Yeah, that.
[1:02:12 – 1:02:12] Adam: I don’t know what that is.
[1:02:12 – 1:02:14] Erik: No, that one’s not a thrush.
[1:02:14 – 1:02:15] Adam: No, I don’t know.
[1:02:15 – 1:02:16] Erik: Now we’re just rambling.
[1:02:16 – 1:02:16] Erik: It’s so embarrassing.
[1:02:17 – 1:02:19] Adam: But anyway, anyway.
[1:02:19 – 1:02:22] Adam: Anyways, well, thank you for being with us here on Tumble Home.
[1:02:22 – 1:02:29] Adam: It sure has been fun, especially since we had this magnum of delicious stout from Berlin all the way across the sea.
[1:02:29 – 1:02:33] Erik: Well, we’ll let you know we have not even made a dent in it yet, so.
[1:02:33 – 1:02:37] Adam: No, we had our glass, and then we’ve got other things to do today.
[1:02:37 – 1:02:38] Adam: So we’re going to save it for later.
[1:02:38 – 1:02:39] Adam: But it’s been fun.
[1:02:40 – 1:02:43] Adam: So call us Upstone Brewery and the rest of you.
[1:02:44 – 1:02:45] Adam: Keep your comments coming.
[1:02:45 – 1:02:46] Adam: We sure appreciate it when you chime in.
[1:02:46 – 1:02:50] Adam: It’s really fun to interact with you in that way.
[1:02:50 – 1:02:51] Erik: Yeah, thanks for sharing.
[1:02:51 – 1:02:54] Erik: We should definitely try to follow up on some of those trips.
[1:02:55 – 1:02:55] Erik: Get back to us.
[1:02:55 – 1:02:56] Erik: How did they go?
[1:02:56 – 1:02:57] Adam: Absolutely.
[1:02:57 – 1:02:57] Adam: I don’t know.
[1:02:57 – 1:03:01] Erik: How was your trips out to the South Arm of Knife, your Sawbill area, your mountain?
[1:03:01 – 1:03:02] Erik: I’m so happy to hear that.
[1:03:02 – 1:03:03] Erik: Crystal?
[1:03:03 – 1:03:05] Adam: So many people are getting out to that South Arm of Knife.
[1:03:05 – 1:03:07] Adam: Just a really special place.
[1:03:08 – 1:03:13] Erik: But we’ll run down the points of contact here, and then we’ll get out of your hair.
[1:03:13 – 1:03:15] Erik: Tumblehomecast at gmail.com.
[1:03:15 – 1:03:20] Erik: Tumblehome, colon, a Boundary Waters podcast on Facebook.
[1:03:21 – 1:03:24] Erik: Tumblehomecast on Instagram.
[1:03:24 – 1:03:24] Erik: Yes.
[1:03:25 – 1:03:30] Erik: Clearwater Canoe Outfitters, if you’re just looking for a direct source for this podcast.
[1:03:32 – 1:03:34] Erik: And until next time, auf Wiedersehen.
[1:03:35 – 1:03:36] Adam: Auf Wiedersehen.
[1:03:37 – 1:03:37] Erik: And…
[1:03:38 – 1:03:38] Adam: Happy paddling.
[1:03:39 – 1:03:40] Erik: Bye-bye.
[1:03:40 – 1:03:43] Adam: How do you say happy paddling in German?
[1:03:44 – 1:03:44] Adam: We gotta look that up.
[1:03:44 – 1:03:46] Erik: Here we go.
[1:03:48 – 1:03:49] Adam: Thanks for watching!
[1:04:07 – 1:04:08] UNKNOWN: Thank you.