Plumbing the depths for content this week as we discuss the under appreciated powerhouses of BWCA campsites: latrines. Hygiene and the mysteries of peeking in the pit are discussed as well.
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[0:00:34 – 0:00:40] Adam: Give me all your love and all your hugs and kisses too.
[0:00:40 – 0:00:46] Adam: Welcome to Tumble Home Boundary Waters Podcast.
[0:00:49 – 0:00:49] Adam: My name is Adam.
[0:00:49 – 0:00:52] Adam: Joining me here in Studio K2 is my good pal Eric.
[0:00:53 – 0:00:56] Adam: This is episode 120 of Tumble Home.
[0:00:58 – 0:01:00] Erik: We’re talking box left and right.
[0:01:00 – 0:01:01] Erik: Timestamp that.
[0:01:01 – 0:01:02] Erik: That’s at 1.
[0:01:03 – 0:01:13] Erik: We are making up for the lack of loon bleeps on this episode, the one that truly plumbs the depths of content.
[0:01:14 – 0:01:18] Erik: Well, if you’ve been following along up to this point, we’re here.
[0:01:19 – 0:01:23] Erik: This very well could be the last episode of Tumble Home of Bon Jovi’s podcast.
[0:01:23 – 0:01:25] Erik: We are talking latrines.
[0:01:28 – 0:01:31] Adam: Well, you know, we do live in the field campsite reviews.
[0:01:32 – 0:01:33] Adam: We do the regular campsite reviews.
[0:01:34 – 0:01:36] Adam: It’s a staple of our show.
[0:01:36 – 0:01:40] Adam: And many of those, we do talk and rate the latrine.
[0:01:41 – 0:01:44] Adam: It’s one of the key five points to the campsite review.
[0:01:45 – 0:01:46] Erik: It is.
[0:01:46 – 0:01:47] Erik: It has kind of become that.
[0:01:48 – 0:01:56] Erik: Before we get into our thoughts, your thoughts, and more, you never know what kind of a side tangent.
[0:01:57 – 0:02:02] Erik: And just, if you can’t handle me at my worst, you don’t deserve me at my best.
[0:02:02 – 0:02:05] Erik: I was a little off my game last week, but I’m feeling great tonight.
[0:02:06 – 0:02:07] Erik: He’s back.
[0:02:08 – 0:02:09] Adam: He’s got the headband on.
[0:02:10 – 0:02:11] Adam: Your hair’s looking great, Eric.
[0:02:11 – 0:02:12] Adam: Woo, yes.
[0:02:12 – 0:02:13] Adam: Your eyes look 100%.
[0:02:13 – 0:02:14] Adam: 100% alive?
[0:02:15 – 0:02:15] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:02:15 – 0:02:17] Adam: They got the glimmer.
[0:02:18 – 0:02:19] Erik: And the twinkle.
[0:02:20 – 0:02:21] Erik: This is 120, as you said.
[0:02:22 – 0:02:22] Erik: Welcome.
[0:02:23 – 0:02:26] Erik: Sponsored, as always, by our good friends on Patreon.
[0:02:27 – 0:02:30] Erik: Hey, if you’re… Stay tuned.
[0:02:30 – 0:02:31] Erik: We’re recording…
[0:02:31 – 0:02:38] Erik: First one of two spooky Tumble Home Cinema Classics episodes after this.
[0:02:38 – 0:02:39] Erik: Stay tuned.
[0:02:39 – 0:02:46] Erik: And it is going to be on a wild card, kind of out of left field, not really a movie that we’ve talked about.
[0:02:46 – 0:02:49] Erik: And you’re just going to have to stay tuned.
[0:02:50 – 0:02:50] Erik: We will say no more.
[0:02:51 – 0:02:52] Erik: We will say no more.
[0:02:52 – 0:02:53] Adam: It’s got a monster, though.
[0:02:54 – 0:02:54] Adam: There is a monster.
[0:02:54 – 0:02:56] Adam: And we’re going to rate it on 1 to 100 spookies.
[0:02:57 – 0:03:00] Erik: Yeah, and we’ve gotten input from one wife.
[0:03:01 – 0:03:04] Erik: She watched with me and her spooky evaluation on it.
[0:03:04 – 0:03:06] Adam: This movie was so spooky, Natalie wouldn’t even watch it.
[0:03:07 – 0:03:12] Erik: She just listened and had to put the headphones on in the other room.
[0:03:12 – 0:03:17] Erik: And also this week, buy a couple of beers.
[0:03:17 – 0:03:22] Erik: One, because it’s a big bruiser, a big dark bruiser.
[0:03:23 – 0:03:25] Adam: It’s a mysterious bottle over here.
[0:03:25 – 0:03:27] Erik: Yeah, it’s in a mysterious bottle.
[0:03:27 – 0:03:28] Adam: You’ve turned the label away.
[0:03:29 – 0:03:30] Adam: Yes, I have hidden the label.
[0:03:30 – 0:03:33] Adam: The label’s facing the lovely pumpkins here in Studio K2.
[0:03:33 – 0:03:34] Erik: Yes.
[0:03:34 – 0:03:39] Erik: And then a 12-pack of two different kinds of Oktoberfest that kind of jumped the list.
[0:03:39 – 0:03:41] Erik: I figured we had to get to these.
[0:03:41 – 0:03:43] Adam: I should have done a polka intro.
[0:03:44 – 0:03:45] Adam: Golly.
[0:03:45 – 0:03:47] Erik: You weren’t even really thinking there.
[0:03:47 – 0:03:49] Erik: Kind of like…
[0:03:51 – 0:03:54] Erik: We just pressed record, and then all of a sudden, here we are.
[0:03:54 – 0:03:55] Erik: That’s how we’ve always done it.
[0:03:55 – 0:03:57] Erik: That’s how we’ve always done it.
[0:03:57 – 0:04:01] Erik: So this is a… Holy schmoly.
[0:04:01 – 0:04:06] Erik: This is a Central Waters Brewing Company Anniversary Edition.
[0:04:06 – 0:04:08] Erik: Highway 10, baby.
[0:04:08 – 0:04:12] Erik: There’s two X’s on the bottle, and it’s called 20 Years Anniversary.
[0:04:13 – 0:04:17] Erik: It is a malt beverage aged in oak bourbon barrels.
[0:04:18 – 0:04:21] Erik: I had to do a little bit of auxiliary research into this beer.
[0:04:21 – 0:04:22] Erik: Yeah, you ever been to Amherst?
[0:04:23 – 0:04:24] Erik: No, not on purpose.
[0:04:24 – 0:04:25] Erik: It’s pretty close to Point.
[0:04:25 – 0:04:26] Erik: It’s pretty close to Point.
[0:04:27 – 0:04:30] Erik: That’s in that Wisconsin River Valley corridor.
[0:04:30 – 0:04:33] Erik: This is from Susan and Jesse.
[0:04:34 – 0:04:34] Erik: P.S.
[0:04:34 – 0:04:36] Erik: Box wine was best tip.
[0:04:37 – 0:04:37] Erik: All right.
[0:04:37 – 0:04:39] Erik: Heck yeah.
[0:04:39 – 0:04:41] Erik: I’m always happy to turn somebody on to box wine.
[0:04:41 – 0:04:45] Erik: We’re going to crack this, and it’s a larger bottle.
[0:04:46 – 0:04:53] Erik: We’ll split it, and we can’t drink a beer of this magnitude all night long, so that’s what the Oktoberfest is for.
[0:04:53 – 0:04:55] Erik: We’re going to be cutting Oktoberfest in.
[0:04:57 – 0:04:58] Erik: It’s like a mixer, beer mixer.
[0:04:59 – 0:05:02] Erik: But anyway, we’ll get into the Central Waters Brewing.
[0:05:02 – 0:05:10] Erik: I did some auxiliary research, like I said, to find out what the ABV is, and if I remember, it’s been a few months since this has been stored in the fridge.
[0:05:10 – 0:05:10] Erik: It is high.
[0:05:11 – 0:05:13] Adam: It’s variable also by the moon phase.
[0:05:14 – 0:05:18] Adam: While you’re cracking that open, I can go ahead and give us the Ron Cher out to our calendar fact of the day.
[0:05:18 – 0:05:21] Adam: Today is October 17th.
[0:05:21 – 0:05:22] Adam: I don’t know what the moon phase is.
[0:05:22 – 0:05:24] Adam: It’s about medium.
[0:05:25 – 0:05:27] Adam: The moon is at medium.
[0:05:28 – 0:05:29] Adam: I think it’s closer to…
[0:05:29 – 0:05:36] Adam: It’s got to be close to a new moon because there’s going to be two full moons including a blue moon on Halloween.
[0:05:37 – 0:05:37] Erik: Oh, boy.
[0:05:38 – 0:05:41] Adam: Full moon on the old Halloween coming up here in a couple of weeks.
[0:05:41 – 0:05:43] Adam: We’ve got to be right around new moon, I’ll call it.
[0:05:43 – 0:05:44] Adam: Here’s the fact of the day.
[0:05:44 – 0:05:46] Adam: Black bears, Eric, they’re hibernating.
[0:05:47 – 0:05:48] Erik: For good?
[0:05:48 – 0:05:48] Adam: Yep.
[0:05:49 – 0:05:50] Adam: They’re just going to lay down right now, night.
[0:05:51 – 0:05:56] Erik: Sunset is at 6.36 p.m., so the bears are officially asleep.
[0:05:56 – 0:05:58] Erik: They’re down for the count.
[0:05:58 – 0:06:04] Erik: Well, this stuff, speaking of new moon, this beer is black as a new moon cloud sky.
[0:06:04 – 0:06:08] Adam: It’s as dark as a new moon during a snowstorm.
[0:06:08 – 0:06:08] Erik: Yeah.
[0:06:09 – 0:06:10] Adam: Well, let’s cheers and…
[0:06:10 – 0:06:10] Adam: Cheers.
[0:06:11 – 0:06:12] Adam: Cheers.
[0:06:19 – 0:06:19] Erik: Yikes.
[0:06:21 – 0:06:22] Erik: There’s a lot going on in there.
[0:06:22 – 0:06:25] Erik: I think I took too big of a drink.
[0:06:25 – 0:06:26] Erik: This is like wine.
[0:06:28 – 0:06:33] Adam: Yeah, I feel like I’m floating in a john boat on the backwaters of the Wisconsin River right now.
[0:06:36 – 0:06:37] Erik: Yeah, malt beverage.
[0:06:37 – 0:06:39] Adam: Catching crappie left and right.
[0:06:40 – 0:06:43] Erik: It’s thick.
[0:06:45 – 0:06:46] Erik: Oak leaves are falling from the trees.
[0:06:47 – 0:06:56] Erik: Speaking of oak leaves falling from the trees, we’ve gotten our first, what I would say, measurable amount of snowfall in the Northland.
[0:06:56 – 0:06:57] Erik: The Northland.
[0:06:58 – 0:06:58] Adam: It’s the first snow day.
[0:06:59 – 0:06:59] Erik: Yeah, yeah.
[0:06:59 – 0:07:11] Erik: There’s been little bits of trace amounts here and there, but there are solid inches of snow up on the Gunflint, up in the higher elevations just above the lake.
[0:07:11 – 0:07:15] Erik: And it might not all stick, but I think a lot of it will.
[0:07:15 – 0:07:16] Erik: We’re settling into winter here.
[0:07:18 – 0:07:22] Adam: Yeah, it’s about that time where you’re like, do you count it or not in the snow log?
[0:07:22 – 0:07:27] Erik: Yeah, I mean, we got a couple more weeks in to October than we did last year.
[0:07:27 – 0:07:30] Adam: I could have shoveled when I got home from work today.
[0:07:30 – 0:07:31] Adam: I did not, so I don’t know.
[0:07:31 – 0:07:41] Adam: I don’t think I’ll count this one in the snow log, but it’s definitely a solid inch at the house up at Studio K. Yeah, not much here just because of the proximity to the lake, which is…
[0:07:42 – 0:07:44] Adam: It’s all about elevation up in here.
[0:07:44 – 0:07:44] Adam: Yeah.
[0:07:45 – 0:07:49] Adam: So it’s not anywhere from, like, forecasts of, like, full rain to then three to five inches.
[0:07:50 – 0:07:51] Adam: Yeah, and I think… Close proximity.
[0:07:51 – 0:07:58] Erik: It changed quite a bit, like, from yesterday to today, where it was, like, saying, like, three to seven in places, and I think it mostly…
[0:07:59 – 0:08:19] Erik: for the most part skewed a little bit to the south so like we didn’t end up with nearly as much but um it was kind of nice to see pretty uh during the uh day one which is probably going to be the only day of the clearwater garage sale man that what it’s you got wiped out or wiped out not much going on in there because of the snow
[0:08:19 – 0:08:44] Erik: canceling day two due to the one inch of snow no i just can’t might not canceling it but severely limiting like the hours based on like i always feel bad for the people that come on like day two and they’re just like that’s when you get the best deals though but yeah then i’m just looking to get rid of stuff all right but at the same time there’s nothing there not nearly as much to go through so um did i buy the signed uh portrait of self-portrait by charlie bluestrom
[0:08:45 – 0:09:07] Erik: you had going there uh that was not an item that we had for sale as i if i remember wink yeah i’ll be there so yeah the other i i do appreciate the the the accumulating snow the onset of winter uh but it doesn’t necessarily bode really too well for a potential solo trip at this point
[0:09:08 – 0:09:29] Adam: but you can do it yeah it doesn’t really sound like that much fun the beaver the beaver pond out back was froze up sure yeah and it snowed a bunch so is wampus and bogino and sure and you know the forecast is literally as far as i can see 10 straight days of a rain snow mix but you can still have a really good time out on davis i’ve been told
[0:09:30 – 0:09:31] Erik: Yeah, I mean, I could go out there.
[0:09:31 – 0:09:33] Adam: It’s kind of like a sub-ecosystem.
[0:09:35 – 0:09:37] Adam: No, it’s a microclimate is what I’m talking about.
[0:09:37 – 0:09:39] Erik: So you’re thinking it might be warmer on Davis.
[0:09:39 – 0:09:40] Adam: Yeah, absolutely.
[0:09:40 – 0:09:42] Adam: It’s on a geothermal hotbed.
[0:09:42 – 0:09:45] Adam: A gravitational anomaly, if you will.
[0:09:46 – 0:09:53] Erik: I’m not ruling it out, but I also like… And also when you said that the sun sets at 6.30, that’s like 12 hours of just dark alone time.
[0:09:53 – 0:09:53] Adam: Yeah.
[0:09:54 – 0:09:57] Adam: That’s kind of… You just watched a scary movie about the trees.
[0:09:58 – 0:09:58] Erik: Yeah.
[0:09:58 – 0:10:01] Erik: Well, hey, don’t spoil it.
[0:10:01 – 0:10:04] Erik: But anyway, it might just be some day trips.
[0:10:05 – 0:10:06] Erik: Kind of disappointing.
[0:10:06 – 0:10:08] Erik: I was really looking forward to it, but man, it’s like…
[0:10:10 – 0:10:11] Erik: It’s like 12 and 12.
[0:10:12 – 0:10:14] Erik: 12 hours of light, 12 hours of dark.
[0:10:14 – 0:10:21] Erik: And then like if there’s snow on the ground, like that just makes for kind of, unless I’m full-blown winter camping.
[0:10:22 – 0:10:27] Erik: It’s like, well, it does make for great hammocking, but just general camp stuff is sloppy.
[0:10:28 – 0:10:34] Erik: It’s like wet, heavy, like greasy snow too, where it’ll kind of like melt in the afternoons.
[0:10:34 – 0:10:36] Erik: I can go full-blown winter camping.
[0:10:37 – 0:10:43] Erik: And I can obviously go full blown like open water, summer, even late fall camping.
[0:10:43 – 0:10:52] Erik: But when you get that mix, the winter mix with open water, it’s just, it’s kind of like my least favorite kind of conditions is that like wet weather.
[0:10:54 – 0:10:54] Erik: Cold.
[0:10:55 – 0:10:56] Erik: Not just cold, cold.
[0:10:56 – 0:10:57] Erik: Wet cold.
[0:10:57 – 0:10:59] Adam: Yeah, that’s double cold.
[0:10:59 – 0:10:59] Adam: Yeah.
[0:11:00 – 0:11:02] Adam: You know, I just realized I had the wrong earpiece in the wrong ear.
[0:11:03 – 0:11:03] Erik: Oh, so we…
[0:11:03 – 0:11:05] Adam: I knew something was off.
[0:11:05 – 0:11:06] Erik: We need to start all the way over?
[0:11:07 – 0:11:10] Adam: Yeah, my pitch was just a little bit off on that intro music.
[0:11:10 – 0:11:12] Adam: We’re going to restart the show.
[0:11:12 – 0:11:14] Adam: Respooled up at 11 minutes here.
[0:11:14 – 0:11:14] Adam: Ooh.
[0:11:15 – 0:11:17] Erik: Welcome to Tumble Home.
[0:11:17 – 0:11:18] Erik: My name is Eric.
[0:11:18 – 0:11:21] Erik: This is episode 001.
[0:11:21 – 0:11:25] Erik: I put the two zeros in there because eventually there’s going to be 999.
[0:11:25 – 0:11:27] Erik: Thank you for joining me.
[0:11:27 – 0:11:29] Adam: We should have double zeros always.
[0:11:29 – 0:11:31] Erik: The basics.
[0:11:31 – 0:11:33] Erik: Add two zeros in front of the 100s now.
[0:11:35 – 0:11:37] Adam: I got a hot weather.
[0:11:37 – 0:11:41] Adam: Well, I don’t know if this is weather, but I think it was part of this snow that we had, Eric.
[0:11:41 – 0:11:43] Adam: Things were just going crazy.
[0:11:44 – 0:11:46] Adam: They stirred up the deer.
[0:11:47 – 0:11:48] Adam: The pets were acting crazy.
[0:11:48 – 0:11:49] Adam: There was deer all over.
[0:11:49 – 0:11:51] Adam: The deer are stirred up.
[0:11:52 – 0:11:53] Adam: And I’m not kidding you.
[0:11:53 – 0:12:01] Adam: On the drive over here to record tonight, I got my car within a foot of both a deer and a large owl.
[0:12:02 – 0:12:03] Adam: Ooh, nice.
[0:12:03 – 0:12:05] Adam: Right down there, right on your road.
[0:12:09 – 0:12:14] Erik: Sorry, the one bad thing about these Surly Oktoberfests is they just go straight to foam.
[0:12:15 – 0:12:17] Erik: They’re not like being shooken or anything.
[0:12:17 – 0:12:18] Erik: They just like, they straight foam.
[0:12:18 – 0:12:20] Erik: So the first sip is just ripping foam.
[0:12:21 – 0:12:22] Adam: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[0:12:23 – 0:12:26] Erik: I’m sure you really appreciated listening to me suck foam off the top of a can.
[0:12:26 – 0:12:28] Adam: Yeah, nice HD slurp.
[0:12:28 – 0:12:30] Erik: There’s the second loon bleep.
[0:12:30 – 0:12:32] Erik: A loon bleep about that slurping.
[0:12:33 – 0:12:34] Adam: What was that all about?
[0:12:34 – 0:12:35] Adam: Time check that at 12.30.
[0:12:37 – 0:12:40] Erik: This one might come out a little bit late because I’m going to have a lot of loon bleeps to add.
[0:12:41 – 0:12:45] Erik: I did hear from a couple of listeners that they’ve sort of missed the loon bleeps a little bit.
[0:12:45 – 0:12:46] Erik: They got a kick out of them.
[0:12:46 – 0:12:48] Adam: When I got here, I was, can I have one of those things?
[0:12:48 – 0:12:49] Adam: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[0:12:49 – 0:12:52] Adam: We got a whole… My Dales is gone and you’re right.
[0:12:52 – 0:12:53] Adam: I got to pace myself on this…
[0:12:54 – 0:13:14] Erik: triple x stuff from amherst so these i got we have two different kinds of october poetry in a bottle from amherst you mean two different kinds of octoberfest from paul we got one from surly the the new flagship micro brew of the state of minnesota and then also one from shells the original micro brew of the state of minnesota see
[0:13:16 – 0:13:17] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:13:18 – 0:13:19] Adam: Is Surly pulling one over?
[0:13:19 – 0:13:20] Adam: Are these trick beers?
[0:13:21 – 0:13:22] Adam: That’s good.
[0:13:22 – 0:13:23] Adam: They’re like candles that don’t blow out.
[0:13:24 – 0:13:24] Adam: Yeah, they’re trick beers.
[0:13:25 – 0:13:28] Erik: So, so far, they taste good, but I don’t like the trickery.
[0:13:29 – 0:13:33] Erik: And so, we also have the Shell’s Oktoberfest, a Marzen-style fest beer.
[0:13:33 – 0:13:38] Erik: I think we’ve had these before, but we’re going to compare and contrast the Oktoberfest as we move forward.
[0:13:38 – 0:13:39] Erik: Talking… We sure will.
[0:13:40 – 0:13:40] Erik: Talking box…
[0:13:43 – 0:13:44] Erik: 13.42.
[0:13:44 – 0:13:48] Erik: You’re going to get your loon bleeps in this week, folks.
[0:13:48 – 0:13:54] Adam: One of my favorite things about the latrine and Boundary Waters campsite is that a lot of them are numbered, if you look closely.
[0:13:55 – 0:13:56] Adam: What do the numbers mean?
[0:13:56 – 0:13:58] Adam: Yeah, how do they determine those numbers?
[0:13:59 – 0:14:02] Adam: Is this some sort of Danielson scale scenario?
[0:14:03 – 0:14:04] Adam: How do they go about it?
[0:14:05 – 0:14:09] Adam: But I’ve been told, I guess they probably do correspond to the numbers on Paddle Planner.
[0:14:11 – 0:14:11] Erik: Yeah, I don’t know.
[0:14:11 – 0:14:12] Erik: Have we ever looked into this?
[0:14:14 – 0:14:22] Erik: The campsite numbers that people throw out there at this point, I don’t know where they come from, if any of them are based in any kind of an actual system.
[0:14:23 – 0:14:24] Erik: I don’t necessarily think that they are.
[0:14:25 – 0:14:25] Erik: I think they’re…
[0:14:27 – 0:14:31] Adam: It’s the only thing in a campsite I’ve ever seen numbered like that, where it’s not just…
[0:14:31 – 0:14:34] Erik: Well, in that regard, I’m sure that that system is the Forest Service.
[0:14:34 – 0:14:37] Adam: That’s where they choose to leave their identifying mark as the government.
[0:14:37 – 0:14:46] Erik: Sure, that might mean something to the Forest Service, but when you see people commenting or I’ll get phone calls, they’re like, I’m going for campsite 256 on Winchell.
[0:14:46 – 0:14:48] Erik: I’m like, I have no idea what that means.
[0:14:48 – 0:14:49] Erik: Where’d you get that number from?
[0:14:49 – 0:14:54] Erik: I think it might be from Paddle Planner, which I don’t think those are official numbers.
[0:14:54 – 0:14:56] Erik: I think it just happens to be randomly associated.
[0:14:56 – 0:15:01] Adam: Yeah, neither is the Danielson scale, but that’s what we’re going with.
[0:15:01 – 0:15:24] Erik: yeah so but i like that about them that it’s that’s where they leave their little stamp sure yeah that is the cooler they have it like forged into the the great that would be the only other place that they could put it without leaving a trace so we do we we want to talk just a little bit unless you have other thoughts before we get into our thoughts on uh
[0:15:24 – 0:15:24] Adam: Yeah, I got to…
[0:15:25 – 0:15:27] Adam: Wait, I got a few more things we got to get to.
[0:15:28 – 0:15:31] Erik: So we’re basically going to just have an episode of us getting to things.
[0:15:31 – 0:15:32] Adam: That’s all these things.
[0:15:32 – 0:15:34] Adam: That’s how we boys done these.
[0:15:34 – 0:15:34] Adam: I’m just joking.
[0:15:35 – 0:15:37] Erik: The last like two months have just been like…
[0:15:37 – 0:15:42] Adam: I just got to get a shout out to our friends on Tomahomecast on Instagram.
[0:15:42 – 0:15:42] Adam: That’s all.
[0:15:43 – 0:15:43] Erik: Shout them out.
[0:15:45 – 0:15:49] Adam: We had a hashtag borderline levy comment.
[0:15:50 – 0:15:51] Erik: Oh, that was on Instagram.
[0:15:51 – 0:15:51] Adam: Yeah.
[0:15:52 – 0:15:52] Adam: That was nice.
[0:15:53 – 0:15:59] Adam: On Instagram by our friend Basecamp North in relation to the jack-o’-lantern post.
[0:15:59 – 0:16:04] Adam: So if you’re listening to this episode, for sure it’s live now, the jack-o’-lantern post.
[0:16:05 – 0:16:16] Adam: I attempted to carve a Min 2 into a pumpkin, and Natalie did a very crazy, like Tim Burton-esque crazy smile.
[0:16:17 – 0:16:18] Adam: Complete with spiral eyes.
[0:16:19 – 0:16:21] Adam: Spiral eyes.
[0:16:21 – 0:16:23] Adam: Anyways, I appreciate the borderline levy.
[0:16:23 – 0:16:29] Adam: But they spelled it borderline levy with a V. I always pictured it like borderline levy.
[0:16:29 – 0:16:30] Adam: BB.
[0:16:30 – 0:16:35] Erik: Yeah, it’s ridiculous that the actual quote is supposed to be borderline 11.
[0:16:35 – 0:16:35] Erik: Yeah.
[0:16:36 – 0:16:42] Adam: It’s come up with maybe double Vs. To be clear for those of you who have not seen the Gone Fishing episode.
[0:16:42 – 0:16:42] Erik: Yeah.
[0:16:43 – 0:16:44] Adam: That’s on our YouTube channel.
[0:16:46 – 0:16:49] Adam: And then one more note on the Instagram.
[0:16:49 – 0:16:55] Adam: On episode 119, I did promise cute kitten pictures with the Halloween sweaters.
[0:16:56 – 0:16:56] Adam: Yes.
[0:16:57 – 0:16:58] Adam: Costumes for the cats.
[0:16:58 – 0:16:58] Adam: Yeah.
[0:16:58 – 0:17:01] Adam: Agnes and little P. Petey?
[0:17:01 – 0:17:02] Adam: Little P. Petey.
[0:17:03 – 0:17:03] Adam: Peppa.
[0:17:05 – 0:17:11] Adam: And the costumes, the sweaters have arrived, but we have not arranged for the photo shoot to happen yet.
[0:17:11 – 0:17:18] Adam: But I promise to you, those cute kitten pictures are going to be posted soon.
[0:17:18 – 0:17:18] Adam: All right.
[0:17:18 – 0:17:20] Adam: All right, now I’m ready to start the episode.
[0:17:20 – 0:17:22] Erik: All right, here we go.
[0:17:23 – 0:17:27] Erik: Welcome to Tumble Home, episode 120.
[0:17:28 – 0:17:33] Erik: We are talking latrines, and we’ve got our thoughts and your thoughts.
[0:17:33 – 0:17:35] Erik: If you’re just joining us, welcome.
[0:17:36 – 0:17:50] Erik: We’re talking the original posts, quote-unquote, unsung heroes of the BWCA, yet another post that has inspired a full episode.
[0:17:51 – 0:17:57] Erik: Questions, thoughts, concerns on pooping in the woods, general hygiene.
[0:17:57 – 0:18:07] Erik: What are your thoughts on a very unique, honestly, compared to what you find in other places, mode of dumping?
[0:18:09 – 0:18:12] Erik: And that is the Bungie Waters latrine system.
[0:18:12 – 0:18:17] Erik: So we’ll talk a little bit about just what we think, what we kind of do.
[0:18:18 – 0:18:21] Erik: And then we’ll get to some of your responses and try our best.
[0:18:21 – 0:18:24] Erik: Unfortunately, it kind of got split between like two posts.
[0:18:25 – 0:18:32] Erik: So we’ll go through one and then make sure we don’t try to read a bunch of the same responses from the same person.
[0:18:33 – 0:18:35] Erik: And hopefully we don’t miss anything.
[0:18:36 – 0:18:37] Adam: Yeah, we’re doing it live, you know.
[0:18:37 – 0:18:39] Adam: We don’t want to cheat and look ahead of time, so.
[0:18:40 – 0:18:41] Erik: Let’s do it live.
[0:18:41 – 0:18:41] Erik: All right.
[0:18:42 – 0:18:43] Erik: We’re doing it live.
[0:18:43 – 0:18:44] Erik: 1840.
[0:18:45 – 0:18:49] Adam: Rule number one on boxers, Eric.
[0:18:49 – 0:18:50] Erik: 1849.
[0:18:51 – 0:18:52] Adam: Only in the morning.
[0:18:52 – 0:18:53] Erik: Okay.
[0:18:53 – 0:18:54] Adam: Pooping at night’s weird.
[0:18:55 – 0:18:56] Adam: You don’t want to night poop.
[0:18:56 – 0:18:59] Adam: So this is your first rule?
[0:18:59 – 0:18:59] Adam: Go for the morning.
[0:19:00 – 0:19:03] Erik: Remember we had a bunch of rules we made up when we were talking about wood gnoming.
[0:19:04 – 0:19:07] Adam: Yeah, well, this would be a rule for me, and I try and always follow it.
[0:19:07 – 0:19:10] Adam: And it doesn’t always work out, but you don’t want a night poop.
[0:19:10 – 0:19:12] Adam: You’ve got to go for the morning session.
[0:19:12 – 0:19:14] Erik: Yeah, I mean, night poops are fine at home.
[0:19:14 – 0:19:20] Adam: Grab your newspaper, grab your map, grab your cup of coffee, take your slippers, go on up the trail.
[0:19:21 – 0:19:22] Adam: That’s the only proper way to do it.
[0:19:22 – 0:19:26] Adam: Every time I’ve experienced night poops, it’s not been pleasant.
[0:19:27 – 0:19:27] Erik: Oh, God, no.
[0:19:27 – 0:19:28] Erik: Yeah, no.
[0:19:28 – 0:19:30] Erik: You’re off schedule then.
[0:19:30 – 0:19:31] Adam: You don’t want to be there.
[0:19:31 – 0:19:32] Adam: For a number of reasons.
[0:19:32 – 0:19:34] Adam: Nobody wants to be out there at night.
[0:19:35 – 0:19:40] Erik: I think that a night poop is probably ill-advised.
[0:19:41 – 0:19:41] Erik: Yeah.
[0:19:42 – 0:19:44] Erik: Yeah, for a number of reasons.
[0:19:44 – 0:20:01] Erik: The spook factor, the lack of being able to see what you’re doing, and then usually, at least in the summer, you know, your nighttime bugs, unless it’s like absolute middle of the night, usually the worst up there, those nighttime bugs.
[0:20:01 – 0:20:01] Erik: Yeah.
[0:20:02 – 0:20:09] Erik: Yeah, I would say an after breakfast morning visit to the latrine is probably the best.
[0:20:10 – 0:20:17] Erik: But before we get fully into like our, you know, maybe some of the things that we think about them, I think we should just say.
[0:20:19 – 0:20:27] Erik: I mean, can you think of another wilderness area, national park system, any kind of a camping scenario where something like this exists?
[0:20:27 – 0:20:32] Erik: Because it seems relatively foreign to most first timers.
[0:20:32 – 0:20:33] Erik: I mean, I’m just so used to it now.
[0:20:33 – 0:20:38] Erik: It’s hard to remember back like thinking about my first few trips and like, you know,
[0:20:39 – 0:21:06] Adam: yeah the only other place i’ve seen something like it would just be like the nicolet national forest in northern wisconsin at just some like back they have some they have some remote like walk-in sites at some lakes in there that you can get to and they have like a similar setup where it’s not a full housed in but like a lot of those are the ones with they’re like big with like the huge lid yeah you know just the crazy a lot of them you know i’ve seen ones with lids up here but
[0:21:06 – 0:21:10] Adam: Most of them are just the regular old can in the woods.
[0:21:10 – 0:21:11] Adam: Yeah, the brown volcano.
[0:21:13 – 0:21:15] Adam: Mount Brown.
[0:21:15 – 0:21:19] Adam: Have you seen the Mount Brown orbs?
[0:21:19 – 0:21:32] Erik: Honestly, when people especially this year with a little bit of a different way permits were being issued and the rules and regulations and people clearly not watching the videos in advance.
[0:21:33 – 0:21:39] Erik: When I would talk to them about the latrines, you’ll know it’s a campsite because it has a fire grate and a latrine.
[0:21:39 – 0:21:41] Adam: But people are picturing it like being in a little house, I think.
[0:21:42 – 0:21:44] Erik: That’s probably true, but they’re still even surprised that that exists.
[0:21:45 – 0:21:46] Erik: A lot of people are like, oh, really?
[0:21:46 – 0:21:47] Erik: Wow, nice.
[0:21:47 – 0:21:48] Erik: I thought I was just going to have to dig a hole.
[0:21:49 – 0:21:49] Erik: Oh, okay.
[0:21:49 – 0:21:50] Erik: Because I don’t think…
[0:21:59 – 0:22:02] Erik: Unless you’re in like a hypersensitive like desert ecosystem.
[0:22:03 – 0:22:03] Erik: Yes.
[0:22:03 – 0:22:06] Erik: Where you have to literally pack everything out.
[0:22:06 – 0:22:07] Erik: Yes.
[0:22:07 – 0:22:08] Erik: I would think…
[0:22:08 – 0:22:19] Erik: I think most of the like Leave No Trace ethics on wilderness refuse disposal is to bury it, to dig a like… And the forest will take care of it then.
[0:22:19 – 0:22:19] Erik: Yeah.
[0:22:19 – 0:22:19] Erik: Yeah.
[0:22:20 – 0:22:20] Erik: Yeah.
[0:22:21 – 0:22:33] Erik: And so I don’t know why or how the Forest Service or Sigurd Olsson or whoever came up with the thinking on latrine system.
[0:22:33 – 0:22:38] Erik: If it was based on the popularity, maybe they just had random right away.
[0:22:38 – 0:22:40] Erik: It was clean up after yourself.
[0:22:41 – 0:22:44] Erik: There’s still a lot of questions out there that would be interesting to try to answer.
[0:22:45 – 0:22:48] Erik: The history of the latrine.
[0:22:48 – 0:22:52] Erik: The history of just campsite creation and fire grates and latrines.
[0:22:53 – 0:23:00] Adam: Oh, I would love to go back and be on one of the original crews that was just like, I’m sure they didn’t really pick it out.
[0:23:00 – 0:23:02] Adam: They were just like, well, that’s a natural campsite.
[0:23:02 – 0:23:06] Adam: Most of them are, but a lot of them are just kind of crammed in there.
[0:23:06 – 0:23:08] Adam: And then it’s like, well, where do you put the latrine?
[0:23:09 – 0:23:13] Adam: Were they basing campsites based on where they could find like a good latrine location maybe?
[0:23:13 – 0:23:16] Adam: And then we’ll just carve out a little landing here.
[0:23:16 – 0:23:16] Erik: Yeah.
[0:23:17 – 0:23:17] Erik: No.
[0:23:17 – 0:23:23] Erik: And I think like that’s, there is like a, a certain distance away from the water that it has to be.
[0:23:23 – 0:23:26] Erik: And then they also have to go out there and manually dig them.
[0:23:26 – 0:23:27] Adam: Yes.
[0:23:27 – 0:23:28] Adam: Like that is insane.
[0:23:28 – 0:23:29] Adam: Latrine crews.
[0:23:29 – 0:23:31] Erik: Latrine crews, the US force.
[0:23:31 – 0:23:32] Erik: I saw a latrine crew going out.
[0:23:33 – 0:23:56] Erik: i was coming out on duncan uh the last day of a guided trip and there was two forest service rangers going out with a big spud bar and shovels that were going out to like re-dig a a new latrine at a campsite it’s just like yikes that sounds like a lot of work i can barely dig a fence post hole in my yard because there’s so many rocks and we’re like kind of down in a little bit more of a
[0:23:57 – 0:23:57] Erik: Yeah.
[0:23:58 – 0:23:59] Erik: On a hill that has dirt.
[0:23:59 – 0:24:01] Erik: Boundary Waters is pretty rocky last time I checked.
[0:24:02 – 0:24:03] Erik: And they get those holes deep.
[0:24:04 – 0:24:07] Erik: How many do you think they like start and they’re just like, well, there’s a boulder here.
[0:24:09 – 0:24:11] Adam: Those crews got to be chiseled steel.
[0:24:11 – 0:24:12] Adam: I would think so.
[0:24:12 – 0:24:12] Adam: Themselves.
[0:24:12 – 0:24:12] Adam: Yeah.
[0:24:12 – 0:24:17] Adam: You know, I’m probably also working with steel to get them dug down.
[0:24:18 – 0:24:19] Adam: But I don’t know.
[0:24:19 – 0:24:24] Adam: I think we’ve come down on the fact that we like about the Quetico that there’s no fire grates.
[0:24:25 – 0:24:26] Erik: Yeah, we’ve talked in the past.
[0:24:26 – 0:24:36] Adam: We like to make our own fire grate, but we appreciate, I guess, because of the traffic, that they actually have these set up sites rather than just letting people go all willy-nilly digging their own caholes.
[0:24:37 – 0:24:38] Erik: Oh, I couldn’t even imagine.
[0:24:39 – 0:24:39] Erik: It’s hard to say.
[0:24:39 – 0:24:44] Adam: If you let people dig their own holes, especially in a summer like this, it would just be a disaster.
[0:24:44 – 0:24:49] Erik: I’m just trying to think if the Bon Jovi is how much different it would look if it had Quetico rules.
[0:24:49 – 0:24:50] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:24:50 – 0:24:51] Erik: Probably a lot worse.
[0:24:51 – 0:24:52] Adam: Yes.
[0:24:53 – 0:25:00] Erik: But at the same time, like Quetico, yeah, you can camp wherever you want, but you don’t really ever see too many like, yeah, it looks like somebody just camped here.
[0:25:00 – 0:25:00] Erik: Camped there.
[0:25:00 – 0:25:01] Erik: That’s weird.
[0:25:01 – 0:25:03] Erik: There’s like plenty of good sites.
[0:25:03 – 0:25:03] Erik: Yeah.
[0:25:04 – 0:25:06] Erik: Clearly the open spots, that makes sense.
[0:25:06 – 0:25:14] Erik: But yeah, we’ve talked in the past about how we think the perfect combination would be like Quetico style fire grates and Bon Jovi style latrines.
[0:25:14 – 0:25:24] Adam: Yeah, you know, the more people you got in there, the more you got to think about that kind of infrastructure, which is like, you know, cities have like full underground sewage systems.
[0:25:25 – 0:25:25] Adam: Yeah.
[0:25:25 – 0:25:29] Adam: And then the Boundary Waters has box latrines.
[0:25:30 – 0:25:33] Adam: And then the Quetico is just like, there’s so few people here.
[0:25:33 – 0:25:34] Adam: Do whatever you’re going to do.
[0:25:34 – 0:25:35] Adam: Just be civil.
[0:25:35 – 0:25:41] Erik: Well, and it’s also two different countries, which probably have vastly different ideas on conservation.
[0:25:41 – 0:25:44] Adam: I think it’s more about the level of the number of people in the place.
[0:25:45 – 0:25:47] Erik: Yeah, I mean, I’m sure that’s a huge factor.
[0:25:47 – 0:25:54] Adam: Which is why the Quetico is so wonderful, because there’s so few people there, they don’t even need latrines.
[0:25:55 – 0:25:56] Adam: That’s how I would look at it.
[0:25:56 – 0:25:58] Erik: Sure, yeah.
[0:25:59 – 0:26:14] Erik: I think it was in the Sigurd Olsson series that we did where we were talking about some of the original issues with the overusage and how it began being regulated and how they were finding like coliform bacteria in a lot of the lakes.
[0:26:15 – 0:26:20] Erik: So that may have had a lot to do with like, all right, people are just kind of everywhere, so let’s give them a spot to do it.
[0:26:20 – 0:26:21] Erik: Aqua squatting?
[0:26:21 – 0:26:22] Adam: Yeah.
[0:26:22 – 0:26:23] Adam: Then they shouldn’t do that.
[0:26:24 – 0:26:26] Adam: Rule number two, don’t ever aqua squat.
[0:26:27 – 0:26:27] Adam: No.
[0:26:27 – 0:26:28] Adam: You know, go to the latrine.
[0:26:29 – 0:26:29] Erik: Unless it’s a river.
[0:26:30 – 0:26:31] Adam: Rivers are up for grabs.
[0:26:33 – 0:26:34] Erik: Absolutely not.
[0:26:34 – 0:26:34] Erik: Okay.
[0:26:34 – 0:26:36] Erik: Leave those beavers alone, Eric.
[0:26:36 – 0:26:37] Erik: So, yeah, I mean.
[0:26:37 – 0:26:38] Erik: Leave them alone.
[0:26:38 – 0:26:41] Erik: So you’ve gotten rule number one is always try to go on the day.
[0:26:42 – 0:27:12] Erik: morning specifically especially in the morning it’s usually a good thing to to like because there’s always like two paths out of the back of the campsite uh-huh and one just goes to like where everybody tries to get wood from uh-huh and then the other one goes to the latrine so it’s always good to find that right away yeah it’s always great where you’re just like which one’s the latrine trail it’s like that’s that one yeah that’s the one yeah the one that goes hardest towards like the depths of the forests anything that follows a shoreline is just like a wood hunting trail
[0:27:12 – 0:27:13] Adam: Yeah.
[0:27:13 – 0:27:19] Adam: Sub rule 1A is latrine bird viewing is always best in the morning.
[0:27:19 – 0:27:21] Adam: That’s another reason to go in the morning.
[0:27:22 – 0:27:27] Adam: You never know what kind of weird warbler you’re going to find up there at 7 in the morning.
[0:27:27 – 0:27:27] Erik: Yeah.
[0:27:28 – 0:27:29] Adam: It’s some of the best birding.
[0:27:29 – 0:27:36] Adam: I’m not much of a birder, Eric, but it’s some of the best birding I’ve ever done is in the morning up on the old latrine.
[0:27:36 – 0:27:40] Erik: Your little black book, your little birding black book checking off.
[0:27:40 – 0:27:40] Erik: Let me check this thing.
[0:27:40 – 0:27:41] Adam: Pileated woodpecker.
[0:27:42 – 0:27:42] Adam: Check.
[0:27:42 – 0:27:42] Adam: I got it.
[0:27:42 – 0:27:44] Adam: That’s off my life list.
[0:27:44 – 0:27:44] Adam: Mm-hmm.
[0:27:45 – 0:27:47] Adam: It’s a black beep.
[0:27:48 – 0:27:50] Adam: It’s old black beeped warbler.
[0:27:50 – 0:27:52] Adam: Black beeped warbler.
[0:27:52 – 0:27:53] Adam: Those are very rare, Eric.
[0:27:54 – 0:27:54] Adam: Yes.
[0:27:55 – 0:27:55] Adam: Check.
[0:27:56 – 0:27:56] Adam: Check.
[0:27:56 – 0:27:56] Adam: Got it.
[0:27:57 – 0:27:58] Adam: Ed would be proud.
[0:27:59 – 0:28:00] Adam: He’s never even seen one.
[0:28:02 – 0:28:03] Adam: What about the ivory build?
[0:28:03 – 0:28:05] Adam: That one’s still out there, right?
[0:28:05 – 0:28:05] Adam: Yeah.
[0:28:05 – 0:28:06] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:28:06 – 0:28:06] Adam: They’re out there.
[0:28:07 – 0:28:07] Adam: Everybody knows it.
[0:28:08 – 0:28:12] Erik: There’s a whole movie about how there’s maybe one out there that exists in a swamp somewhere.
[0:28:12 – 0:28:15] Adam: It would be a great plot twist if it just appeared in the Boundary Waters.
[0:28:16 – 0:28:18] Erik: The last time we’ve seen it was in Arkansas.
[0:28:20 – 0:28:22] Erik: And now here it is on Four Town Lake.
[0:28:24 – 0:28:25] Erik: It is nice to have something to sit on.
[0:28:27 – 0:28:36] Erik: Where do you come down on, like, yes, the dispersal and kind of wild feeling nature of pooping in Quetico?
[0:28:37 – 0:28:41] Adam: It took me a good three days to figure it out on my first trip.
[0:28:42 – 0:28:44] Erik: Like, it’s a whole different game.
[0:28:44 – 0:28:45] Erik: Yeah, it’s a whole different game.
[0:28:45 – 0:28:47] Erik: It’s not like the, hey, I got a toilet.
[0:28:47 – 0:28:48] Erik: I know right where it is.
[0:28:48 – 0:28:52] Erik: I’m going because, you know, let’s just be honest.
[0:28:52 – 0:28:57] Erik: Some of those after breakfast poos, they’re kind of quickly needing to happen.
[0:28:58 – 0:29:02] Erik: If you’re not directly aware of where a latrine is…
[0:29:03 – 0:29:16] Erik: I mean, yeah, I’ve definitely had some very awkward, like, stilt-legged, pinched walks into the depths of Quenica Wilds looking for a place where it’s far enough away from camp.
[0:29:16 – 0:29:18] Erik: Clearly nobody else has gone here.
[0:29:19 – 0:29:24] Erik: And also, like, not just, like, an insanely, like, uncomfortable place to do it.
[0:29:24 – 0:29:31] Erik: So there’s, like, a lot more thinking mentally that goes on in Quenica to try to accommodate sometimes a… Let’s…
[0:29:31 – 0:29:32] Adam: Let’s be clear, too.
[0:29:32 – 0:29:34] Adam: A lot of it’s because of dehydrated food.
[0:29:36 – 0:29:43] Adam: Some of my most problematic stomach issues have become because of especially dehydrated breads and such.
[0:29:44 – 0:29:48] Adam: I don’t know what’s going on there, friends, but those things are trouble.
[0:29:49 – 0:30:05] Erik: Yeah, no, it’s like you get past day three, four of kind of like fresh, eating like a normal human, and then you get, especially into those longer trips, you’re into like week two of like dehydrated, even if you do it on your own, because we’ve had both.
[0:30:05 – 0:30:09] Erik: We’ve done like the pre-prepared stuff, and we’ve made our own.
[0:30:10 – 0:30:16] Erik: There’s something about rehydrating some of those, I don’t know, I think it might be like the grains and the potatoes.
[0:30:16 – 0:30:16] Erik: Yeah.
[0:30:16 – 0:30:19] Erik: And probably some of the breads, but I don’t know.
[0:30:19 – 0:30:23] Erik: At least the homemade bread stuff that we’ve always done has been pretty basic.
[0:30:24 – 0:30:30] Erik: But yeah, you run into a whole other line of consistency, let’s say.
[0:30:30 – 0:30:32] Adam: I’m never eating a camp biscuit again in my life.
[0:30:33 – 0:30:33] Adam: Never, ever.
[0:30:34 – 0:30:34] Adam: Never, ever.
[0:30:35 – 0:30:35] Erik: Okay.
[0:30:36 – 0:30:36] Adam: Fair enough.
[0:30:37 – 0:30:37] Adam: But…
[0:30:39 – 0:30:39] Adam: Yeah, I don’t know.
[0:30:39 – 0:30:42] Adam: Overall, I mean, to the main point of, like, what do you do?
[0:30:43 – 0:30:48] Adam: I’m looking for, like, a quiet place with a nice, like, sit and log.
[0:30:49 – 0:30:50] Adam: Not so much a sit and log.
[0:30:50 – 0:30:51] Adam: It’s more of a leaning spot.
[0:30:52 – 0:30:53] Adam: You got to get a good leaner.
[0:30:54 – 0:30:54] Adam: That’s what it’s all about.
[0:30:55 – 0:30:55] Erik: Sure.
[0:30:55 – 0:31:03] Erik: How do you feel about the tactic as to whether or not this is acceptable or not?
[0:31:04 – 0:31:10] Erik: In Quetico, as an example, just flipping over a large rock.
[0:31:11 – 0:31:13] Erik: You sick monster.
[0:31:13 – 0:31:18] Adam: If you’re well into the woods, not in camp, way into the woods, big rock.
[0:31:18 – 0:31:23] Adam: Fine, but I will never flip over a rock looking for a spot.
[0:31:24 – 0:31:27] Adam: because I’ve found things I don’t want to see.
[0:31:27 – 0:31:30] Adam: Well, I’ve had that happen to me in camp.
[0:31:30 – 0:31:31] Adam: This is why I won’t do it.
[0:31:31 – 0:31:35] Adam: But also, hey, if you don’t flip over any rocks, you can’t get burnt.
[0:31:36 – 0:31:48] Erik: I was on a campsite on Darkwater Lake in Quetico with Liz, Paige, and Tori, and I flipped over a rock, and there was a used condom.
[0:31:49 – 0:31:49] Erik: What?
[0:31:49 – 0:31:57] Erik: And then farther beyond that, there was just a bag of baby diapers kind of starting to deteriorate and melt into the earth.
[0:31:58 – 0:32:00] Erik: It was really gross and bad.
[0:32:00 – 0:32:03] Erik: And that’s not really an easy lake to get to.
[0:32:05 – 0:32:06] Erik: Yeah, sorry for that.
[0:32:06 – 0:32:07] Erik: Both of those things.
[0:32:07 – 0:32:08] Adam: Can you bleep this whole minute out?
[0:32:09 – 0:32:10] Adam: We don’t need that.
[0:32:10 – 0:32:12] Adam: Just black it out.
[0:32:12 – 0:32:15] Erik: All right, welcome to Tumble Home episode 120.
[0:32:15 – 0:32:18] Erik: We are talking latrine chat.
[0:32:19 – 0:32:26] Adam: Anybody who made it to minute 32 on an episode called Latrine Chat, you know.
[0:32:26 – 0:32:28] Adam: Yeah, I’m not bleeping that out.
[0:32:28 – 0:32:31] Erik: I saw what I saw, and now you’ve got that potential image.
[0:32:31 – 0:32:32] Adam: I didn’t know about that story.
[0:32:33 – 0:32:36] Adam: Yeah, I don’t know what came first, if it was the same group or…
[0:32:39 – 0:32:40] Adam: Yeah, who knows?
[0:32:40 – 0:32:40] Adam: Yeah.
[0:32:41 – 0:32:42] Adam: But yeah, I don’t know.
[0:32:42 – 0:32:43] Erik: I mean… Was it a good campsite at least?
[0:32:43 – 0:32:45] Erik: It was very nice, unfortunately.
[0:32:45 – 0:32:47] Erik: It was a nice campsite, yeah.
[0:32:47 – 0:32:49] Erik: We spent a couple of days there actually because it was raining.
[0:32:50 – 0:32:52] Erik: But yeah, like, you know, there is…
[0:32:52 – 0:33:06] Erik: I do sort of get like a little bit more of an instinctual like gratification of just like this straight up squatting right over the ground over a hole I just dug.
[0:33:07 – 0:33:07] Erik: But…
[0:33:08 – 0:33:13] Erik: It’s not nearly as convenient as the plastic latrine.
[0:33:14 – 0:33:17] Adam: I like to read a nice map while I’m doing my thing.
[0:33:17 – 0:33:22] Adam: You really can’t do that when you’re on Quetico style rules.
[0:33:22 – 0:33:26] Adam: You’re just in there doing business then and it’s not enjoyable at all.
[0:33:26 – 0:33:30] Adam: I like to enjoy my map reading session in the morning, my birding.
[0:33:31 – 0:33:31] Adam: I’m always about the business.
[0:33:32 – 0:33:35] Adam: And you’re definitely not birding in Quetico, and I’m not reading a map.
[0:33:35 – 0:33:37] Adam: You’re just getting in there and out as fast as you can.
[0:33:38 – 0:33:39] Adam: That’s stressful.
[0:33:39 – 0:33:41] Erik: That should always be the MO.
[0:33:41 – 0:33:45] Erik: You’re one of these freaks who goes into the bathroom and reads a book for like 45 minutes.
[0:33:46 – 0:33:47] Adam: I’m not reading a book.
[0:33:47 – 0:33:48] Erik: I’m reading Reddit.
[0:33:48 – 0:33:52] Erik: Well, still, like, it’s not like you have children or, like, I get it.
[0:33:52 – 0:33:58] Erik: For the dads, they go to the bathroom and they spend, like, an hour in there because it’s the only place of privacy.
[0:33:59 – 0:34:01] Erik: Some semblance of peace to myself.
[0:34:02 – 0:34:03] Erik: Like, I get that.
[0:34:03 – 0:34:03] Erik: Yeah.
[0:34:04 – 0:34:09] Erik: But, like, there’s nothing out in the real world, in your house or in your yard, that is really going to affect you.
[0:34:09 – 0:34:11] Erik: Like, I get in the bathroom.
[0:34:11 – 0:34:11] Erik: I get in.
[0:34:11 – 0:34:12] Erik: I get out.
[0:34:12 – 0:34:14] Erik: I’ve been like this my whole life.
[0:34:14 – 0:34:15] Erik: Yeah.
[0:34:15 – 0:34:15] Erik: Yeah.
[0:34:15 – 0:34:23] Adam: When I was, by just me, you know, that I’d still, I had all the alone time I wanted in the world.
[0:34:24 – 0:34:30] Adam: I’d still take my time on a, you know, I came up, I lived with just a plain outhouse for a long time, Eric.
[0:34:31 – 0:34:33] Adam: And then I got an outhouse with Wi-Fi.
[0:34:34 – 0:34:36] Adam: And then I got an outhouse with Wi-Fi and a heater.
[0:34:36 – 0:34:37] Erik: And a heater, yes.
[0:34:37 – 0:34:39] Adam: And then now I have indoor plumbing.
[0:34:39 – 0:34:41] Adam: I’ve really come a long ways.
[0:34:41 – 0:34:42] Adam: Yeah, but there’s so much.
[0:34:42 – 0:34:47] Adam: But I still enjoy just going up to the old, you know, box latrine in the night.
[0:34:48 – 0:34:49] Adam: No, I’m just kidding.
[0:34:49 – 0:34:50] Adam: In the morning.
[0:34:50 – 0:34:50] Adam: With a nice map.
[0:34:51 – 0:34:53] Adam: And, you know, just taking my five minutes.
[0:34:53 – 0:34:54] Adam: Like, what’s the hurry?
[0:34:55 – 0:34:58] Adam: Just a little, just this nice little special time.
[0:34:58 – 0:35:02] Adam: And I don’t know, you know, what’s the big deal?
[0:35:03 – 0:35:04] Erik: I mean, it’s not that big of a deal.
[0:35:05 – 0:35:15] Erik: I mean, I would say that more time could be spent on the latrine in the Bon Jovi campsite just enjoying the surroundings, especially if you’re out with a group.
[0:35:15 – 0:35:22] Erik: It’s pretty intimate surroundings in camp, so it can be one of the only like, hey, I’m going to go up here and have some alone time.
[0:35:22 – 0:35:23] Adam: Yeah, that’s true.
[0:35:24 – 0:35:35] Erik: Yeah, so I would say just based on more of what I have to say on latrines and general hygiene, what do you know?
[0:35:35 – 0:35:43] Erik: This is probably going to turn into two episodes because – and also after looking on the comments, I think we need to do a little bit of –
[0:35:43 – 0:36:01] Erik: back of the house work on comments between the two posts and making sure we’re reading people who have responded legitimately and also not reading people twice because there’s been some double comments so there’s a little bit of work there um but anyway um
[0:36:03 – 0:36:29] Erik: uh the just the the the general like best and worst because i can think of the worst latrine which is that one we were this might kick off a whole debate in terms of how you how you grade things again yeah i don’t know if we’ve i mean we do grade latrines for a living so right it’s our job if you don’t like our grades on latrines that’s one thing but
[0:36:30 – 0:36:34] Adam: I think you and I can disagree on our latrine grades and be civil about it.
[0:36:35 – 0:36:48] Erik: No, I know, but I was about as vehemently disagreeing with you as I think I’ve ever this past Fourth of Brulai based on the latrine we had to deal with.
[0:36:48 – 0:36:50] Erik: Everybody was disagreeing with me.
[0:36:50 – 0:36:52] Erik: I was the only one who was like, it’s not that bad.
[0:36:53 – 0:36:56] Erik: So do you want to describe it or should I describe it and then we’ll do our grades?
[0:36:56 – 0:37:01] Adam: I’ll describe it first and then you describe it and then we’ll get a little difference of opinion.
[0:37:01 – 0:37:05] Erik: Well, let’s just say it’s probably one of the worst ones we’ve seen, I think.
[0:37:05 – 0:37:06] Adam: Yeah, it was pretty bad.
[0:37:06 – 0:37:13] Adam: I mean, I’m not giving it 77 spookies out of 100 or anything.
[0:37:14 – 0:37:17] Erik: You gave it the same grade as The Great Outdoors.
[0:37:19 – 0:37:45] Adam: 55 yeah yeah that’s a 55 which is a big deal i didn’t fall in that’s what my final grade said all right well i didn’t fall in all right i’ll describe it so it’s a nice long walk back this is a very well used campsite not hard to get to yeah it’s gonna get a lot of use so i clearly had to like re-dig this one like three four times in the last decade you can always see the other spots where there’s like that’s where the other one was and then oh yeah over there
[0:37:45 – 0:37:45] Erik: Yeah.
[0:37:46 – 0:37:48] Adam: So it’s in like its fourth spot of the decade.
[0:37:50 – 0:37:52] Adam: And so, you know, they’re on a frame.
[0:37:52 – 0:37:55] Adam: They dig the hole and they throw the thing down and it’s on a frame.
[0:37:55 – 0:37:58] Adam: Then they kind of like fill it back in around the plastic base.
[0:37:58 – 0:38:00] Adam: It’s just the classic plastic brown volcano.
[0:38:01 – 0:38:01] UNKNOWN: Yes.
[0:38:02 – 0:38:20] Adam: and of course because like there had been a lot of rain and the way it had been placed like one of the corners had started to like fill in a little bit so you could kind of see in through the frame but it was still stable and i sat on it fine i didn’t fall in and it did its job so i said i don’t know what’s the worst grade i could give it 55 is fine
[0:38:22 – 0:38:23] Erik: I think you gave it a 5 out of 10.
[0:38:24 – 0:38:25] Adam: The path was lovely.
[0:38:25 – 0:38:28] Erik: The path has very little impact on the grade.
[0:38:28 – 0:38:32] Adam: I saw a chickadee, and it was pretty nice overall.
[0:38:33 – 0:38:34] Adam: Nice quiet day up there.
[0:38:35 – 0:38:38] Adam: Then we had a lovely day in camp, so what’s the problem?
[0:38:38 – 0:38:47] Erik: Yeah, we had very peaceful discussions about how horrible your grade was, considering just how terrible of a latrine experience it was.
[0:38:48 – 0:38:52] Erik: You make it sound like it was just one little corner that had kind of eroded into the pit.
[0:38:52 – 0:38:53] Erik: That’s right.
[0:38:53 – 0:38:59] Erik: It was like essentially the full front of where you sit had eroded in.
[0:39:00 – 0:39:07] Erik: So as you walk up to it, you get like basically whether you like it or not, a full frontal experience of like what’s in the pit.
[0:39:08 – 0:39:36] Erik: before you even sit down and it had been eroded all on the sides as well so three out of four sides it was like i don’t think so it was essentially like the two by fours that i was resting on like the frame yeah it was like called the frame it was the bridge from whitewater summer it was way more stable than that you know just push the handrails out you know if you’re feeling unstable flare those butt cheeks out do you look in the latrine before you sit down
[0:39:37 – 0:40:06] Adam: not if i’m out there with people i know i i never look in i purposely look for birds while i’m getting the seat down well that’s the problem i never look in don’t ever look down look in but don’t look down the volcano when there’s holes and open gaps around the edges it’s like really hard not to see the like pile of see i’m half blind yeah and that’s the other key is never here’s rule number two friends don’t ever wear your glasses when you’re going up to the latrine oh there you go no i’m just kidding around you gotta wear them so you can see the birds
[0:40:07 – 0:40:08] Adam: Just don’t look in the hall.
[0:40:08 – 0:40:08] Adam: What’s wrong with you?
[0:40:08 – 0:40:09] Adam: Don’t look down.
[0:40:10 – 0:40:11] Adam: It’s the same rule.
[0:40:11 – 0:40:17] Adam: It’s where I’m going up fire towers or across a rope suspension bridge or if we’re in deep water where you can see the bottom.
[0:40:18 – 0:40:19] Adam: Don’t look down.
[0:40:19 – 0:40:21] Adam: That’s a tumble home fact of the day.
[0:40:21 – 0:40:23] Adam: Brought to you by Oktoberfest.
[0:40:24 – 0:40:25] Adam: This is a pretty good Oktoberfest.
[0:40:25 – 0:40:26] Erik: Yeah.
[0:40:26 – 0:40:27] Erik: I finished mine already.
[0:40:27 – 0:40:27] Erik: Oh, good.
[0:40:28 – 0:40:29] Erik: Well, do you need to compare and contrast?
[0:40:30 – 0:40:31] Erik: Oh, you’ve already…
[0:40:33 – 0:40:34] Adam: This is Tumble Home.
[0:40:35 – 0:40:36] Adam: Tumble Homecast.
[0:40:38 – 0:40:38] Adam: Yeah.
[0:40:39 – 0:40:40] Adam: How do we still have listeners?
[0:40:40 – 0:40:41] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:40:42 – 0:40:42] Adam: Ridiculous.
[0:40:43 – 0:40:44] Adam: Well, it’s episode 120.
[0:40:45 – 0:40:50] Adam: We’re finally getting to the topic that everybody’s been wanting to know about.
[0:40:50 – 0:40:55] Adam: How do you poop on a trip in the Boundary Waters?
[0:40:55 – 0:40:56] Erik: It’s ridiculous.
[0:40:56 – 0:40:59] Erik: We tease this at the end of The Circus Comes to Brule.
[0:40:59 – 0:41:00] Erik: How do you wipe?
[0:41:00 – 0:41:02] Erik: Front to back, back to front.
[0:41:03 – 0:41:04] Erik: Send us an email.
[0:41:05 – 0:41:05] Erik: I want my…
[0:41:06 – 0:41:09] Erik: I’ve been in a… We’re not even going to get into that topic.
[0:41:10 – 0:41:20] Erik: No, but generally in terms of just wilderness hygiene, because this is a facet of my experiences at Clearwater that I find fascinating.
[0:41:22 – 0:41:30] Erik: On a day where you are anticipating that you’re going out into the woods, whether you know what that means to 100% or not…
[0:41:32 – 0:42:01] Erik: it’s you have to at the end of the day understand that you’re going into a place that you’re going to get dirty but still have to maybe take care of yourself to a certain level and so like you can kind of get a sense of where people come down on how am I going to take care of myself when I’m out there based on how they’re taking care of themselves leading up to the day and the morning that they go out and by that what I basically am saying is
[0:42:03 – 0:42:08] Erik: People that are staying in our bunkhouses or even sometimes cabins and then getting up the next morning and going out on a canoe trip.
[0:42:09 – 0:42:10] Erik: And you can tell there’s the…
[0:42:12 – 0:42:16] Erik: I don’t know if it necessarily comes down as a man and a woman thing.
[0:42:16 – 0:42:21] Erik: I think it generally goes just a little bit skews towards female things.
[0:42:22 – 0:42:40] Erik: having clearly just taken a very, very recent shower and have gotten themselves basically into like a, I’m going shopping at the mall state of care for themselves versus people who get clean as possible before.
[0:42:40 – 0:42:41] Erik: Yes.
[0:42:41 – 0:42:51] Erik: That’s what I’m saying is like, those are the people that I feel like probably have a whole like system of things to take care of themselves while they’re out there.
[0:42:52 – 0:42:57] Adam: I treat it like I’m going to a bonfire in which I put on the dirtiest clothes I have that are acceptable to wear.
[0:42:58 – 0:42:58] Erik: Well, yeah.
[0:42:58 – 0:42:59] Adam: And then go out.
[0:43:00 – 0:43:00] Erik: Yes.
[0:43:00 – 0:43:03] Erik: And that I think is the… Because they’re only going to get dirtier.
[0:43:03 – 0:43:11] Erik: That is the flip side of this conversation as, you know, the taking care of yourself and how it relates to…
[0:43:12 – 0:43:16] Erik: how you feel at home versus knowing that you’re in the woods.
[0:43:16 – 0:43:18] Erik: And I think I see it on both sides, though.
[0:43:18 – 0:43:19] Erik: I’m not saying that.
[0:43:19 – 0:43:20] Erik: It’s just women who are, like, getting dolled up.
[0:43:21 – 0:43:30] Erik: Plenty of guys that you feel like they go walking by, and it’s like, this guy looks and smells like he just walked out of an Abercrombie & Fitch from the 1990s.
[0:43:31 – 0:43:32] Erik: That’s the throwback.
[0:43:32 – 0:43:33] Erik: Remember malls?
[0:43:33 – 0:43:34] Erik: Remember…
[0:43:35 – 0:43:58] Adam: abercrombie and fitch was the coolest clothes to wear but yeah you can smell them you can tell that they’ve just showered i’m all about like wearing dirty clothes but make sure you get your you know butt clean at least before you go out you’re gonna go with a fresh butt and fresh socks that’s your most important part yeah
[0:43:58 – 0:44:13] Erik: But then, so I just wonder like once you’re out there, there’s, I guarantee like a whole spectrum of like, depending on the length of the trip and depending on just kind of, you know, the kind of person you are, like where do you come down?
[0:44:13 – 0:44:14] Erik: I think I have a pretty good idea.
[0:44:14 – 0:44:23] Erik: Like you’re pretty relaxed in terms of like, like you basically like brush your teeth and change your contacts.
[0:44:24 – 0:44:25] Erik: That’s about it.
[0:44:26 – 0:44:26] Erik: But like,
[0:44:28 – 0:44:29] Adam: There’s some people that I feel like are…
[0:44:29 – 0:44:32] Adam: I feel like you might just call me, like, stinky right now.
[0:44:32 – 0:44:34] Erik: No, I mean, I think that’s…
[0:44:34 – 0:44:35] Erik: I don’t think I stink that bad.
[0:44:35 – 0:44:36] Erik: No, that’s part of it.
[0:44:36 – 0:44:37] Erik: It all sticks in the hammock.
[0:44:37 – 0:44:38] Adam: Eventually, everybody stinks.
[0:44:39 – 0:44:43] Adam: But, you know, I’m medium when I get on the field, you know.
[0:44:44 – 0:44:47] Erik: Yeah, I mean, I barely even brush my teeth, though, when I’m out there.
[0:44:47 – 0:44:52] Adam: Yeah, brush your teeth, drink lots of water, and, I don’t know, that’s it.
[0:44:52 – 0:44:54] Adam: Change your socks every day if you can.
[0:44:55 – 0:44:56] Adam: That’d be a luxury, honestly.
[0:44:56 – 0:44:59] Adam: If you can change your socks every day, you’re living the good life.
[0:44:59 – 0:45:00] Erik: Yeah.
[0:45:00 – 0:45:08] Adam: But as far as just like latrine-based hygiene, what do you think about baby wipes?
[0:45:09 – 0:45:14] Erik: I mean, I’m kind of against them, but I’m also like, I’ve spent some time in Europe.
[0:45:15 – 0:45:16] Erik: Yeah.
[0:45:16 – 0:45:18] Adam: It’s like the bidet of the Boundary Waters right there.
[0:45:18 – 0:45:26] Erik: Well, I’m just saying, I think bidets are just generally a better thing for the body and the world.
[0:45:27 – 0:45:33] Erik: Why they don’t exist just ubiquitously in this country, I don’t understand.
[0:45:33 – 0:45:33] Erik: Yeah.
[0:45:35 – 0:45:39] Erik: There would have been no teepee madness in March.
[0:45:39 – 0:45:40] Erik: I can guarantee you that.
[0:45:40 – 0:45:40] Erik: Yeah.
[0:45:40 – 0:45:43] Erik: Like, you might need a little bit just to dry up.
[0:45:43 – 0:45:46] Adam: I bet bidet sales are way up in March and April.
[0:45:46 – 0:45:48] Erik: Yeah, bidets are great.
[0:45:48 – 0:45:49] Erik: They’re the best.
[0:45:50 – 0:45:56] Erik: I mean, there’s the old diaper cleaner that was attached to the downstairs toilet in this house here.
[0:45:56 – 0:46:01] Erik: But, I mean, I think that’s maybe a little… That’s a little too messy to try to use that.
[0:46:01 – 0:46:02] Adam: When do you think…
[0:46:03 – 0:46:08] Adam: Maybe I shouldn’t even give this idea to Coglins, but Camp Bidet.
[0:46:08 – 0:46:10] Adam: Coglins Camp Bidet?
[0:46:10 – 0:46:11] Erik: You hook it up to your Nalgene.
[0:46:11 – 0:46:13] Erik: A huge hose from the lake?
[0:46:13 – 0:46:15] Adam: A foot pump.
[0:46:15 – 0:46:16] Adam: Oh, foot pump, yeah.
[0:46:16 – 0:46:20] Adam: With a Nalgene, I think it would probably work.
[0:46:20 – 0:46:22] Adam: Anyways, we’re trademarking it.
[0:46:22 – 0:46:25] Adam: Anybody listening to this obviously knows we came up with the idea first.
[0:46:26 – 0:46:28] Adam: And Coghlan stole it from us.
[0:46:28 – 0:46:29] Erik: I don’t think you need to trademark it.
[0:46:30 – 0:46:39] Erik: All you need to do is get one of those solar camp showers and just retrofit the end schnozzle to not be a full shower.
[0:46:43 – 0:46:44] Adam: You can still use it as a shower, too.
[0:46:45 – 0:46:45] Adam: It’s fine.
[0:46:46 – 0:46:48] Adam: Just don’t get it in your eyes.
[0:46:48 – 0:46:50] Erik: Yeah, we’ll change the tubes.
[0:46:50 – 0:46:51] Erik: Different tubes.
[0:46:51 – 0:46:55] Erik: Yeah, there’s one schnozzle for bottom and one schnozzle for top.
[0:47:02 – 0:47:28] Erik: got that figured out i do i i think i actually gave one away for there was a huge corner in the outfitting room at the garage sale today of just free items and one of the free items no no uh free there was one free solar camp shower and now they take it see it’s gone i saw it go out anyways whoever got that bring it back we need it for the schnozzle experiment
[0:47:29 – 0:47:33] Erik: Yeah, we’ll get the YouTube channel going again with that experiment.
[0:47:35 – 0:47:36] Adam: Yeah.
[0:47:36 – 0:47:44] Erik: But that is the other end of the spectrum in terms of camping hygiene, those solar camp showers.
[0:47:45 – 0:47:46] Adam: Yeah, I’ve never used one of those.
[0:47:46 – 0:47:48] Erik: No, I’ve never used one either.
[0:47:48 – 0:47:51] Erik: It’s basically just like jump in the lake, you know?
[0:47:51 – 0:47:52] Erik: Yeah, jump in the lake.
[0:47:52 – 0:47:56] Erik: Jump in the lake and just do a quick like, you know, crotch.
[0:47:56 – 0:47:59] Erik: Any crotch, arm crotch, leg crotch.
[0:47:59 – 0:48:01] Adam: It’s even better than just give it a wipe.
[0:48:01 – 0:48:06] Adam: If you’re on the backwaters of the Wisconsin River crappie fishing for the night, just jump in.
[0:48:07 – 0:48:08] Adam: There’s no snapping turtles.
[0:48:09 – 0:48:12] Adam: Well, it comes down to a certain point, time of year.
[0:48:14 – 0:48:15] Adam: True.
[0:48:15 – 0:48:17] Adam: If it’s that cold, you don’t have to ever bathe.
[0:48:18 – 0:48:21] Adam: Maybe do a sweat lodge or something.
[0:48:21 – 0:48:23] Erik: Oh, I get pretty disgusting.
[0:48:23 – 0:48:28] Erik: I get probably more gross in the winter, like winter camping, where you’ve got like eight layers on.
[0:48:28 – 0:48:30] Erik: It’s because you’ve got to wear more things.
[0:48:31 – 0:48:33] Adam: It’s all the clothes’ fault, not my fault.
[0:48:34 – 0:48:36] Adam: The clothes that are gross, Eric, not me.
[0:48:37 – 0:48:38] Adam: That’s the truth.
[0:48:39 – 0:48:41] Adam: Those vile, vile socks.
[0:48:43 – 0:48:59] Erik: Yeah, so I guess to finish on Latrine Chat, unless you’ve got any other tips slash tricks, I wonder, and I think I have an idea on how it happens.
[0:49:00 – 0:49:02] Erik: And there’s, I think, just as much question…
[0:49:04 – 0:49:28] Erik: on the fire grates as well but just the logistics of the actual apparatus of the latrine yeah and how it is how it was originally brought out do they just come in huge stacks like cups of coffee like mugs they look like they could have yes they look like they probably stack i’m certain they did they came on train cars
[0:49:29 – 0:49:32] Erik: But I mean, like, it has to be a winter operation.
[0:49:32 – 0:49:34] Erik: I don’t think one of those things can fit in a canoe.
[0:49:34 – 0:49:38] Erik: Like, just think of like a little sag.
[0:49:39 – 0:49:49] Adam: Yeah, but, well, if they’re all attached to the frame, if it were, I guess probably they would have to be, like, dragged in by a dog team.
[0:49:49 – 0:49:52] Erik: Well, and that’s how I think that they get out there.
[0:49:52 – 0:50:05] Erik: I’ve got a little bit of inside knowledge and knowing some dog sled operations out of Ely and some of those cabins that they said needed to be torn down but then didn’t tear down and then just used for their own personal use.
[0:50:06 – 0:50:07] Erik: Lousy Forest Service.
[0:50:08 – 0:50:10] Adam: Oh, those dirty bureaucrats.
[0:50:10 – 0:50:10] Adam: Yeah.
[0:50:10 – 0:50:12] Adam: They’re not listening to Hour 50.
[0:50:13 – 0:50:13] Adam: Hour 50.
[0:50:13 – 0:50:15] Erik: Yep.
[0:50:15 – 0:50:24] Erik: No, but even with that in mind, like, I still think that they just cashed them up in a place that, like, could you imagine just going paddling down a lake?
[0:50:24 – 0:50:26] Adam: Finding a pile of latrine or something.
[0:50:27 – 0:50:43] Adam: or seeing a canoe with a stack of latrines in it or like a helicopter just with like a net full of latrines just all loose a big old bag of loose trains oh yeah and but then like on the other hand like it’s a chopper full of box
[0:50:43 – 0:50:44] Erik: Derek.
[0:50:45 – 0:50:47] Erik: It’s been a few minutes since I’ve had to actuate the loon bleep.
[0:50:47 – 0:50:48] Erik: Thanks for that.
[0:50:48 – 0:50:54] Erik: The loons are almost on their way out, so I’m glad we’re getting the last loon bleeps in of the season.
[0:50:54 – 0:50:57] Erik: They’re on their way down to the Gulf of Mexico, those bleeps.
[0:50:57 – 0:51:02] Erik: It’s just the sad, sad juveniles who have figured out where their parents have gone.
[0:51:02 – 0:51:02] Erik: Dad?
[0:51:08 – 0:51:30] Erik: it’s it’s i think that the the latrine it comes separate from the frame that it sits on i think that’s wood is constructed and then a latrine is attached to it yeah but they have a they have a jib i’m sure that a jib whatever you know a jig yeah i think it’s more of a jig than a jib
[0:51:31 – 0:51:31] Erik: I think it is.
[0:51:32 – 0:51:34] Erik: If I know, if I… You see what I’m doing with my hands.
[0:51:34 – 0:51:39] Erik: Yeah, everybody listening at home can definitely see what you’re doing with your hands right now.
[0:51:39 – 0:51:40] Erik: Yeah.
[0:51:40 – 0:51:40] Adam: Mm-hmm.
[0:51:41 – 0:51:41] Erik: It’s a jig.
[0:51:43 – 0:51:43] Erik: Yeah.
[0:51:44 – 0:51:45] Erik: Yeah, so…
[0:51:46 – 0:51:48] Erik: Where do you think those are made, too?
[0:51:48 – 0:51:52] Erik: Is this just some plant where somebody’s just pressing the latrine press?
[0:51:52 – 0:51:54] Adam: Yeah, it’s a smith foundry.
[0:51:54 – 0:51:58] Erik: Yeah, they make the flare grates and latrines.
[0:51:58 – 0:52:00] Adam: We got you all covered for service.
[0:52:00 – 0:52:03] Erik: It’s like heavy-duty paper mache where those things are made out of.
[0:52:03 – 0:52:07] Adam: It’s kind of like Mr. Burns’ character runs the smith foundry.
[0:52:08 – 0:52:13] Erik: When and how did they decide to allow us the ones with the lid?
[0:52:14 – 0:52:15] Erik: The big lid top.
[0:52:15 – 0:52:16] Adam: Yeah, those things are modern.
[0:52:17 – 0:52:19] Erik: The more square ones?
[0:52:19 – 0:52:20] Adam: Yeah, they’re too big.
[0:52:20 – 0:52:21] Erik: I don’t like them.
[0:52:21 – 0:52:22] Adam: I like the old style.
[0:52:23 – 0:52:24] Erik: What’s the old style in your opinion?
[0:52:25 – 0:52:26] Adam: Just the little round one.
[0:52:26 – 0:52:27] Erik: Just the brown volcano.
[0:52:27 – 0:52:28] Adam: Yeah, the OG.
[0:52:28 – 0:52:29] Erik: Okay.
[0:52:29 – 0:52:31] Erik: So that is what you think is the original.
[0:52:31 – 0:52:34] Erik: So there’s the brown volcano with just the opening.
[0:52:34 – 0:52:34] Erik: Yes.
[0:52:34 – 0:52:37] Erik: And then there’s the brown volcano that has a lid.
[0:52:37 – 0:52:39] Adam: Yeah, but some of the lids are torn off.
[0:52:39 – 0:52:39] Adam: Why?
[0:52:39 – 0:52:41] Erik: I don’t want to know.
[0:52:43 – 0:52:45] Erik: Bobby needed a Frisbee.
[0:52:46 – 0:52:47] Erik: Rex fell over.
[0:52:47 – 0:52:48] Adam: And Rex fell over.
[0:52:48 – 0:52:51] Adam: He’s always falling over.
[0:52:51 – 0:52:53] Adam: Poop too hard.
[0:52:53 – 0:52:54] Adam: And then there’s the square ones.
[0:52:55 – 0:53:02] Adam: That’s why you end up with the underpants still in camp is because Uncle Rex pooped so hard he fell over and then had to…
[0:53:02 – 0:53:07] Adam: Wipe his whole backside off with his own underwear and leave him in the camp.
[0:53:07 – 0:53:09] Erik: Up to in between his shoulder blades.
[0:53:09 – 0:53:11] Erik: Bobby was back there digging in.
[0:53:11 – 0:53:11] Adam: Yeah, no.
[0:53:12 – 0:53:13] Adam: As long as you didn’t make Bobby help.
[0:53:14 – 0:53:14] Adam: Help.
[0:53:15 – 0:53:17] Erik: That’s where you need the Coghlan’s brand.
[0:53:17 – 0:53:17] Adam: I’m calling off the latrine.
[0:53:17 – 0:53:24] Erik: The Coghlan’s brand camp bidet can also be used as a back cleaner.
[0:53:24 – 0:53:25] Adam: And a nice solar shower.
[0:53:25 – 0:53:25] Adam: Yeah.
[0:53:25 – 0:53:26] Adam: Yeah.
[0:53:29 – 0:53:32] Adam: You can wash your whole body with it, but specifically and the butt.
[0:53:33 – 0:53:35] Erik: So Bobby and Rex have been established.
[0:53:36 – 0:53:39] Erik: If Rex was ever able to convince his wife to come out, what would her name be?
[0:53:40 – 0:53:40] Adam: Oh, no.
[0:53:40 – 0:53:41] Adam: We’re going to have to consult on this one.
[0:53:41 – 0:53:43] Adam: We’ll get back to you in maybe a week or two.
[0:53:43 – 0:53:51] Adam: Maybe we should have a tournament on the Tumble Home just on the subreddit.
[0:53:51 – 0:53:53] Adam: What’s Rex’s wife’s name?
[0:53:53 – 0:53:54] Adam: Maybe we’ll get a tournament going.
[0:53:56 – 0:54:00] Adam: Check back in November for the Rex’s wife tournament.
[0:54:01 – 0:54:03] Erik: DoubleHomeCast at gmail.com.
[0:54:03 – 0:54:04] Erik: This is going to be great.
[0:54:04 – 0:54:05] Erik: What’s Rex’s wife’s name?
[0:54:05 – 0:54:07] Erik: But Bobby’s not Rex’s son.
[0:54:07 – 0:54:08] Erik: That’s his nephew.
[0:54:08 – 0:54:09] Adam: That’s his uncle, yeah.
[0:54:09 – 0:54:11] Adam: Well, that’s Rex’s brother, which we’ll get to next year.
[0:54:11 – 0:54:12] Adam: Ooh, Rex’s brother.
[0:54:13 – 0:54:15] Adam: He’s just getting old enough to come out.
[0:54:15 – 0:54:16] Adam: Yeah, who’s Dodd?
[0:54:16 – 0:54:17] Erik: Yeah, Dodd.
[0:54:18 – 0:54:18] Erik: His name’s Lane.
[0:54:18 – 0:54:22] Adam: I don’t know about that.
[0:54:22 – 0:54:23] Erik: No, whatever.
[0:54:23 – 0:54:29] Erik: Yeah, it’s the end of the open water season, and we’re talking latrines, and you can tell.
[0:54:32 – 0:54:58] Adam: there’s more work involved in bleeping out it is my favorite like it’s not my favorite part of a campsite but i always enjoy you know like it’s kind of like the last thing that you check out you kind of get in there you get set up all right i’m gonna take a stroll up even if you don’t have to use it have you ever i know you have because we’ve just done campsite reviews but even on a trip like once you ever just like i’m gonna go check out what’s going on up by the old latrine
[0:54:59 – 0:55:05] Erik: Yeah, no, I almost always head up there, and it’s always a good place to start just for quick firewood checks.
[0:55:05 – 0:55:07] Adam: Yeah, and in case you have to do the night poop.
[0:55:08 – 0:55:10] Adam: It’s always a good thing to know where it is.
[0:55:10 – 0:55:11] Adam: So, like, orient yourself.
[0:55:11 – 0:55:11] Adam: Yeah.
[0:55:13 – 0:55:18] Adam: Yeah, you don’t truly know a campsite until you’ve visited the latrine.
[0:55:18 – 0:55:22] Erik: Yeah, and I’m going to be honest, like, now looking back,
[0:55:23 – 0:55:45] Erik: on experiences i feel like i do look in there because i can always he does it he’s a looker i i and it’s not because i’m necessarily like oh i’m a i’m a depraved man yes but it’s mostly just to get an idea on like usage
[0:55:46 – 0:55:47] Adam: What are we up against?
[0:55:48 – 0:55:49] Erik: I want to know.
[0:55:49 – 0:55:52] Adam: Can the latrine tell you how much firewood’s around?
[0:55:52 – 0:55:52] Adam: Yes.
[0:55:53 – 0:55:53] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:55:53 – 0:56:04] Adam: There’s a direct correlation between the… Yeah, if you ever find a box with a bunch of cobwebs in it, you know there’s going to be dried cedar just 10 paces from your current location.
[0:56:04 – 0:56:04] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:56:04 – 0:56:05] Adam: Absolutely.
[0:56:05 – 0:56:06] Erik: If you can’t physically…
[0:56:06 – 0:56:10] Erik: If you can’t visibly see white toilet paper…
[0:56:11 – 0:56:12] Adam: You’re in a good spot.
[0:56:13 – 0:56:13] Adam: Wood for days.
[0:56:14 – 0:56:14] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:56:14 – 0:56:17] Adam: There’s something to be said for like a fresh latrine.
[0:56:18 – 0:56:18] Erik: Yes.
[0:56:18 – 0:56:19] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:56:20 – 0:56:20] Erik: See?
[0:56:20 – 0:56:28] Erik: I look for scientific purposes to increase and I do it to enhance the enjoyment of the campsite.
[0:56:32 – 0:56:32] Adam: Yeah.
[0:56:32 – 0:56:34] Erik: You looked at me so incredulously.
[0:56:34 – 0:56:34] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:56:35 – 0:56:35] Adam: I think so, though.
[0:56:36 – 0:56:36] Erik: Mm-hmm.
[0:56:37 – 0:56:44] Adam: Do you ever have nightmares about if you looked into a latrine and then you saw a crazed monster?
[0:56:46 – 0:56:47] Erik: No, I’ve never had any latrine nightmares.
[0:56:48 – 0:56:49] Adam: What about spiders?
[0:56:49 – 0:56:52] Adam: I’ve seen big wolf spiders, especially on the ones with the lids.
[0:56:53 – 0:56:54] Erik: Yeah?
[0:56:54 – 0:56:57] Adam: I’ve seen a big wolf spider on the lid.
[0:56:57 – 0:57:01] Adam: Like when you flip it up and you’re like, eee, eee, eee, eee, eee, eee, eee, eee.
[0:57:01 – 0:57:06] Erik: Yeah, I’m not too worried about anything that would happen to be in there, animal life-wise.
[0:57:06 – 0:57:06] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:57:07 – 0:57:07] Erik: What are they going to do?
[0:57:08 – 0:57:09] Erik: Nothing up here is really dangerous.
[0:57:09 – 0:57:10] Erik: It might sting you in the butt.
[0:57:11 – 0:57:15] Erik: Wow, there was that one, remember that one bee on Snipe that almost got me?
[0:57:16 – 0:57:16] Adam: Bite butter.
[0:57:17 – 0:57:18] Erik: Yeah, bite butter.
[0:57:18 – 0:57:18] Adam: Bite stinger.
[0:57:19 – 0:57:20] Erik: Bite stinger.
[0:57:20 – 0:57:27] Adam: When I was little, my parents told me you couldn’t poop during a thunderstorm because you might get lightning in the butt.
[0:57:28 – 0:57:28] Erik: Really?
[0:57:29 – 0:57:31] Erik: I heard that same thing from my parents, but it was showers.
[0:57:32 – 0:57:34] Erik: You shouldn’t shower during a lightning storm?
[0:57:34 – 0:57:34] Adam: Yeah.
[0:57:34 – 0:57:35] Erik: Any water.
[0:57:35 – 0:57:38] Adam: Yeah, don’t be doing the water.
[0:57:38 – 0:57:39] Erik: That’s not true.
[0:57:39 – 0:57:39] Erik: None of that’s true.
[0:57:39 – 0:57:40] Adam: I don’t think that’s true.
[0:57:41 – 0:57:44] Adam: Has anybody ever had the lightning get them in the butt?
[0:57:44 – 0:57:47] Erik: Yeah, tumblehomecast at gmail.com.
[0:57:47 – 0:57:49] Erik: Have you ever been lightning struck in the butt?
[0:57:49 – 0:57:52] Adam: This couldn’t happen in a Boundary Waters latrine.
[0:57:52 – 0:57:55] Erik: No, not if the U.S. Forest Service is doing their job and getting those things way up in the woods.
[0:57:57 – 0:58:00] Adam: Yeah, that’s probably the safest spot you can be, honestly.
[0:58:00 – 0:58:00] Erik: Yeah.
[0:58:01 – 0:58:11] Erik: I think I’m, again, to go back, anti-baby wipe, I would say, in general, because I think it’s terrible for septic systems and plumbing sewer systems.
[0:58:11 – 0:58:12] Erik: Yeah, I don’t think they break down.
[0:58:13 – 0:58:13] Adam: They won’t break down.
[0:58:14 – 0:58:24] Erik: But if there’s any place to use it, I might use one or two while camping, especially if I’m out for, like, multiple weeks.
[0:58:24 – 0:58:27] Adam: Yeah, I always have a couple with me in case.
[0:58:27 – 0:58:29] Adam: I think that’s a good way to use them.
[0:58:30 – 0:58:30] Erik: Yeah.
[0:58:30 – 0:58:34] Erik: Well, I like them just for like a week shower.
[0:58:35 – 0:58:38] Erik: After like being out there for a week, you just take a baby wipe and give yourself.
[0:58:39 – 0:58:42] Erik: Even that little bit, especially late in the season where you’re like, I’m not jumping in.
[0:58:42 – 0:58:43] Adam: Yeah.
[0:58:43 – 0:58:44] Erik: I’m not jumping in the lake.
[0:58:44 – 0:58:51] Erik: I know this last March, me and Tori did the winter camp out to Seagull for like four days.
[0:58:51 – 0:58:51] Erik: Yeah.
[0:58:52 – 0:58:58] Erik: And even a couple days into that, we heated up water and just dipped rags in it and just kind of lightly wiped ourselves down.
[0:58:58 – 0:59:02] Erik: And that was just enough to feel like, I feel fresh.
[0:59:02 – 0:59:02] Erik: I feel new.
[0:59:02 – 0:59:03] Erik: I feel great.
[0:59:05 – 0:59:06] Adam: I feel radiant.
[0:59:06 – 0:59:07] Erik: I feel radiant.
[0:59:08 – 0:59:18] Erik: So, yeah, I’m going to have to go through and curate the responses for next week.
[0:59:19 – 0:59:19] Erik: Episode 121.
[0:59:19 – 0:59:20] Erik: 121, your thoughts on the deuce.
[0:59:20 – 0:59:21] Erik: Deuce.
[0:59:27 – 0:59:32] Adam: I feel like this is one where it’s important that we just said what we had to say about it and get it off our chest.
[0:59:32 – 0:59:33] Adam: I’ve been holding it in.
[0:59:33 – 0:59:36] Adam: Obviously, we both have been holding it in a lot.
[0:59:36 – 0:59:38] Erik: Holding it in for 120 episodes.
[0:59:38 – 0:59:41] Adam: All I’ve wanted to say since I met you is I look down.
[0:59:41 – 0:59:43] Adam: This is what happens when you save it for the night.
[0:59:44 – 0:59:46] Adam: Should have gotten this out of the way a long time ago.
[0:59:47 – 0:59:47] Adam: I feel a lot better.
[0:59:49 – 1:00:02] Erik: Yeah, and I believe by the time we record the responses episode, it’ll probably be one of the last full episodes of… We don’t really have seasons anymore, that’s clear.
[1:00:03 – 1:00:07] Adam: Before we get into what is… Nobody does anything in November.
[1:00:07 – 1:00:29] Erik: no i know but i’m just saying like the certainly not us no no i don’t do anything i basically i will i come home and i draw the blinds and i curl up in the ball in the corner and put a an eye mask over my eyes then you put on your halloween costume which is the puddle
[1:00:30 – 1:00:30] Erik: Yes.
[1:00:30 – 1:00:31] Adam: That’s a great one.
[1:00:31 – 1:00:34] Erik: And a half-smoked Joe Pesci cigar.
[1:00:36 – 1:00:43] Erik: And a picture of Donald Glover and his son, Childish Gambino, next to a candle.
[1:00:45 – 1:00:45] Erik: And that’s my November.
[1:00:47 – 1:00:47] Erik: Sounds lovely.
[1:00:47 – 1:00:57] Erik: Yeah, there’s still going to be stuff that comes out in November, but it’s going to be some shorter stuff and a little bit more in the realm of
[1:00:58 – 1:01:01] Erik: Dumb Home Express.
[1:01:02 – 1:01:05] Adam: And it’s been a while since we got on the choo-choo train.
[1:01:05 – 1:01:06] Erik: We’re going to get on that choo-choo train.
[1:01:07 – 1:01:10] Erik: We’re going to be talking just straight up entry points.
[1:01:11 – 1:01:18] Erik: Hard facts on entry points and just generally our thoughts on them based on popularity, what you can do from them.
[1:01:19 – 1:01:22] Erik: It’s going to be a little bit more broad than even the route episodes.
[1:01:23 – 1:01:25] Erik: It’ll be fun to try to do all of them eventually.
[1:01:25 – 1:01:26] Adam: Yeah, we got rads.
[1:01:27 – 1:01:28] Erik: We got meters.
[1:01:28 – 1:01:29] Erik: We got rods.
[1:01:29 – 1:01:30] Erik: We got meters.
[1:01:30 – 1:01:31] Erik: We got quotas.
[1:01:33 – 1:01:33] Erik: Yeah.
[1:01:34 – 1:01:34] Erik: Yeah.
[1:01:35 – 1:01:37] Erik: If you’re going to miss… How many boards?
[1:01:38 – 1:01:40] Erik: Miss the banter about Conglin’s camp…
[1:01:43 – 1:01:48] Erik: Back sprayers, you can find us on Tumble Home Cinema Classics.
[1:01:48 – 1:01:50] Erik: We’ll still be doing a couple of those.
[1:01:51 – 1:01:52] Erik: We’re doing one in a minute here.
[1:01:53 – 1:01:54] Erik: And then there’s going to be for sure one more.
[1:01:55 – 1:01:57] Erik: I have to choose mine for October.
[1:01:57 – 1:02:02] Erik: I’ve gotten a number of emails that says, please, please do deliverance.
[1:02:02 – 1:02:03] Erik: We might do deliverance.
[1:02:05 – 1:02:07] Erik: That would be my vote.
[1:02:08 – 1:02:09] Erik: Well, your vote doesn’t count.
[1:02:10 – 1:02:12] Erik: It’s your choice, Eric.
[1:02:12 – 1:02:14] Erik: So, yeah.
[1:02:14 – 1:02:15] Erik: So next week we’ll be back.
[1:02:15 – 1:02:20] Erik: There might be one more after that just to be, I don’t know.
[1:02:20 – 1:02:22] Erik: The Sunday after next is November 1st.
[1:02:23 – 1:02:26] Erik: So we might do a little short spooky thing.
[1:02:26 – 1:02:27] Erik: We’ll think of it.
[1:02:28 – 1:02:29] Adam: We’re definitely doing a ghost hunt.
[1:02:29 – 1:02:30] Erik: We’ll do a ghost.
[1:02:30 – 1:02:31] Erik: We’re doing a ghost hunt.
[1:02:31 – 1:02:35] Erik: We’re going out to the first site on Caribou and we’re camping out until we get abducted.
[1:02:37 – 1:02:40] Adam: Hey ghouls, come on down.
[1:02:40 – 1:02:44] Adam: This is a fine latrine.
[1:02:44 – 1:02:46] Adam: It’s not haunted at all.
[1:02:46 – 1:02:50] Erik: Well, thank you, you.
[1:02:53 – 1:03:02] Erik: A underscore pair underscore of underscore choppers for the prompting of the unsung heroes of the BWCA conversation.
[1:03:03 – 1:03:07] Erik: I didn’t think that there was enough for us to talk about this for an entire hour.
[1:03:07 – 1:03:09] Erik: It would have, again…
[1:03:11 – 1:03:14] Erik: We’ve been doing this for three years, and we still think we’ll get it done in an episode.
[1:03:15 – 1:03:16] Adam: I never think that anymore.
[1:03:16 – 1:03:17] Adam: I think that’s over.
[1:03:17 – 1:03:23] Adam: But I do know that you can literally email us any topic, and we could talk about it for one hour, no problem.
[1:03:23 – 1:03:24] Erik: That is true.
[1:03:24 – 1:03:25] Erik: I love talking with you, Eric.
[1:03:25 – 1:03:26] Erik: You’re a lot of fun to talk with.
[1:03:26 – 1:03:26] Erik: Yes.
[1:03:27 – 1:03:28] Erik: We just flip the mic on.
[1:03:29 – 1:03:30] Erik: The mics are hot.
[1:03:30 – 1:03:31] Erik: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:03:31 – 1:03:37] Erik: Somebody even tossed out the idea of maybe people ask us questions about…
[1:03:38 – 1:03:38] Adam: I saw that.
[1:03:38 – 1:03:39] Adam: I love that idea.
[1:03:39 – 1:03:41] Erik: I do like it, but I also…
[1:03:41 – 1:03:43] Erik: It kind of borders on a little like…
[1:03:43 – 1:03:44] Erik: I don’t think we’re good enough for…
[1:03:44 – 1:03:46] Adam: I think they’re just going to make fun of us.
[1:03:46 – 1:03:47] Erik: We’re not good enough for an AMA.
[1:03:48 – 1:03:49] Erik: Oh, the madness of winter.
[1:03:49 – 1:03:50] Adam: Ask me anything.
[1:03:50 – 1:03:51] Adam: You guys got so drunk.
[1:03:52 – 1:03:52] Adam: Well, we did.
[1:03:52 – 1:03:53] Adam: It’s true.
[1:03:53 – 1:03:53] Adam: We did.
[1:03:55 – 1:03:56] Erik: We were different people then.
[1:03:57 – 1:03:58] Erik: Now we can control the slurs.
[1:04:00 – 1:04:01] Adam: Yeah, I’ve been going to a voice coach.
[1:04:02 – 1:04:02] Erik: Yeah.
[1:04:03 – 1:04:04] Erik: I’ve been going to a liver coach.
[1:04:05 – 1:04:05] Erik: Ah.
[1:04:06 – 1:04:06] Adam: Mm-hmm.
[1:04:08 – 1:04:16] Erik: Just hard side gut punches while bonging beers.
[1:04:17 – 1:04:18] Erik: I’m reverting on bonging beers again.
[1:04:19 – 1:04:20] Adam: I didn’t know that.
[1:04:20 – 1:04:20] Adam: Yeah.
[1:04:21 – 1:04:29] Adam: Well, maybe we should bong a beer before the next Tumble Home Cinema Classics episode because it’s been a piece.
[1:04:29 – 1:04:31] Erik: I remember we’re just truly…
[1:04:33 – 1:04:50] Erik: hardware store and like buying the supplies for a beer bong but being like funnel i just dad’s got a plumbing project going on we’re flushing a sink a funnel a hose clamp and we’re doing an oil change rubber hose on the giraffe we’re changing the oil on the giraffe we gotta get this tubing
[1:04:53 – 1:05:17] Erik: all right well we did determine some things we figured some stuff out but i can’t wait to figure out more next week um if you haven’t responded on our tumble home casts the questions out there you can also send us an email do you peak now we’re mostly we’re gonna weigh we’re gonna we’re voting are you a peaker or not a peaker yeah everybody’s a peaker
[1:05:17 – 1:05:18] Erik: Everybody at their core.
[1:05:18 – 1:05:21] Adam: You’re either a peeker or you’re a liar.
[1:05:22 – 1:05:23] Adam: You’re lying to yourself.
[1:05:23 – 1:05:24] Adam: You’re lying to yourself.
[1:05:24 – 1:05:25] Adam: What do you sleep at night?
[1:05:26 – 1:05:26] Adam: Just look.
[1:05:27 – 1:05:27] Adam: It’s fun.
[1:05:29 – 1:05:30] Erik: Yeah.
[1:05:30 – 1:05:35] Erik: I don’t know about fun, but it can tell you a lot about the world.
[1:05:36 – 1:05:36] Adam: Yeah.
[1:05:37 – 1:05:38] Adam: Yeah.
[1:05:38 – 1:05:38] Adam: I sure can.
[1:05:39 – 1:05:40] Adam: Everybody poops.
[1:05:41 – 1:05:42] Adam: Everybody poops.
[1:05:42 – 1:05:43] Adam: Everybody paddles.
[1:05:44 – 1:05:45] Erik: Everybody paddles.
[1:05:45 – 1:05:47] Adam: Everybody be happy.
[1:05:47 – 1:05:48] Adam: Everybody poop.
[1:05:48 – 1:05:50] Adam: Everybody do the paddle.
[1:05:50 – 1:05:51] Adam: Thanks for listening, folks.
[1:05:52 – 1:05:55] Adam: For Tomahome, episode 120.
[1:05:57 – 1:05:59] Adam: Coming to you live from Studio K2.
[1:06:00 – 1:06:03] Adam: It’s time for us to get on down to the polka tent.
[1:06:03 – 1:06:10] Adam: Thanks to the Oktoberfest beers and the XX 20-year from Amherst.
[1:06:10 – 1:06:10] Erik: Thanks, Susan.
[1:06:11 – 1:06:12] Erik: And Jesse or Suzanne?
[1:06:13 – 1:06:17] Erik: Suzanne and Jesse from Amherst, Wisconsin.
[1:06:17 – 1:06:18] Erik: And thanks, Paul.
[1:06:19 – 1:06:22] Erik: Hopalicious has got his work cut out for him this week.
[1:06:22 – 1:06:24] Erik: He’s got three different beers.
[1:06:25 – 1:06:26] Erik: Let me quick crack this one so it counts.
[1:06:26 – 1:06:30] Erik: This is a Shell’s Oktoberfest, a Martin-style fest beer.
[1:06:32 – 1:06:35] Erik: Coming at you in just a minute.
[1:06:36 – 1:06:40] Erik: Talking a movie that you’ll just have to wait to find out what it is.
[1:06:46 – 1:06:47] Adam: Guten Nacht.
[1:06:48 – 1:06:51] Adam: Guten Nacht.
[1:06:51 – 1:06:53] UNKNOWN: Guten Nacht.
[1:07:18 – 1:07:19] UNKNOWN: Hey, la la la.
[1:07:51 – 1:07:55] UNKNOWN: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:08:29 – 1:08:29] UNKNOWN: Bye.
[1:08:29 – 1:08:29] UNKNOWN: Bye.
