Episode Transcript
[0:00:03 – 0:00:04] UNKNOWN: Thank you for watching!
[0:00:38 – 0:01:02] Adam: welcome to evening warmth on mink lake this is tumble home a boundary waters podcast coming to you live in the field yet again sitting on the beach here at mink lake uh staring at another red orb in the sky but eric this one
[0:01:03 – 0:01:04] Adam: It’s our sun.
[0:01:04 – 0:01:04] Adam: It’s friendly.
[0:01:05 – 0:01:13] Erik: It does seem like it’s a little bit of a smoke haze in the air, so we’re not getting the direct blasting heat like I was getting today.
[0:01:14 – 0:01:18] Erik: On the roof of Outfitting, painting, blasted by the sun.
[0:01:19 – 0:01:20] Erik: It’s supposed to be 93 tomorrow.
[0:01:21 – 0:01:22] Erik: Aye yai yai.
[0:01:24 – 0:01:31] Adam: Still haven’t ordered Gordy his hat, and he’s going to need it tomorrow, so I got to get on that for sure.
[0:01:31 – 0:01:37] Adam: This is episode 0153 of Tumble Home, a Boundary Waters podcast.
[0:01:38 – 0:01:41] Adam: Thank you, and mad shout-out to all our patrons.
[0:01:42 – 0:01:43] Adam: We love you very much.
[0:01:44 – 0:01:46] Adam: Wish you were here on this lovely beach with us.
[0:01:46 – 0:01:48] Adam: Thank you for listening.
[0:01:48 – 0:01:49] Adam: Thank you for your support.
[0:01:50 – 0:01:51] Adam: Shout out to anybody else listening.
[0:01:51 – 0:01:55] Adam: Shout out to anybody listening in, I don’t know, Idaho.
[0:01:55 – 0:01:56] Adam: Shout out to Idaho.
[0:01:57 – 0:01:58] Erik: I’m sure there’s some Idaho’s out there.
[0:01:58 – 0:02:09] Erik: We’ve got the printout on the door of the kitchen at the Lodge of the United States where we color in all of the states that we get.
[0:02:10 – 0:02:36] Erik: for uh license plates yeah i don’t think we have idaho yet just got a louisiana the other day so we finally connected that’s hot that was our first north to south connection full connection made still working on east to west we do not have the western states not represented they’re just out there dealing with their uh forest fires i guess which is why this uh red orb is is uh looking the way it is i imagine a little bit of distant
[0:02:38 – 0:02:39] Adam: Saw Vermont today.
[0:02:40 – 0:02:41] Adam: Shout out to anybody in Vermont.
[0:02:43 – 0:02:44] Adam: Shout out to anybody in Vermont.
[0:02:44 – 0:02:45] Erik: You got any Vermont’s on the map?
[0:02:46 – 0:02:54] Erik: No, but we do have the, uh, we’re saying that probably just as rare as the, uh, coveted Hawaii license plate.
[0:02:55 – 0:03:02] Erik: Last week we had a Washington DC license plate on the property district district of Columbia.
[0:03:02 – 0:03:03] Erik: Yeah.
[0:03:03 – 0:03:08] Erik: And the Saskatchewan who we imagine has just been stuck down here since the pandemic started.
[0:03:08 – 0:03:10] Adam: as your want to be.
[0:03:10 – 0:03:15] Adam: I think the haze we’re witnessing here, it’s mild, but I believe it’s Saskatchewan in nature.
[0:03:16 – 0:03:17] Adam: Smell that?
[0:03:17 – 0:03:19] Adam: Smells like Saskatchewan.
[0:03:19 – 0:03:22] Erik: Skatchy conifers.
[0:03:22 – 0:03:28] Adam: Today is Ron Cher out to our calendar fact of the day for July 2nd, 2021.
[0:03:29 – 0:03:32] Adam: Blue-winged teal nests are hatching.
[0:03:32 – 0:03:39] Adam: You darn tootin’ sunsets at 9.03 p.m. Watch out for those blue-winged teal out there.
[0:03:41 – 0:03:43] Adam: Yes, so today we are talking rain gear.
[0:03:45 – 0:03:47] Adam: It’s literally not a cloud in the sky.
[0:03:47 – 0:03:48] Adam: No, it’s hot.
[0:03:48 – 0:03:49] Adam: We’re talking about rain gear.
[0:03:49 – 0:03:59] Adam: I was out car camping a couple weekends ago, and it was like a high of 55 the whole weekend, and it rained about every 52 minutes on average.
[0:03:59 – 0:04:02] Adam: So it was just a constant on and off with the rain gear.
[0:04:03 – 0:04:05] Adam: But I did put it ââ¬â it was like literally before we left ââ¬â
[0:04:06 – 0:04:09] Adam: Last thing, you know, and it’s like maybe we should bring our rain jackets.
[0:04:09 – 0:04:13] Adam: It is an 85% chance of rain this weekend.
[0:04:13 – 0:04:16] Adam: Yeah, I suppose we should throw them in, you know.
[0:04:16 – 0:04:19] Adam: And then it was like the number one piece of gear I needed that weekend.
[0:04:20 – 0:04:22] Adam: But also, you know, when it wasn’t raining, it was beautiful.
[0:04:22 – 0:04:23] Adam: One of them weekends.
[0:04:23 – 0:04:28] Erik: Yeah, this should be actually a podcast on…
[0:04:29 – 0:04:58] Erik: sun protection techniques because i feel like i got zapped today painting and yeah we got he’s got the crazy eye i’ve got one crazy eye get him out of the water he’s get him off the roof he’s got the crazy eye yeah get him off that roof yeah we’re painting projects when it’s 90 degrees on black uh shingles is uh just lovely just a great great old time um but yeah we in fact are talking rain gear
[0:04:59 – 0:05:01] Erik: What’s your rain gear game?
[0:05:02 – 0:05:07] Erik: We’ve got some responses we’re going to get to in just a second here.
[0:05:07 – 0:05:09] Adam: What do you think about the cell phone tower, huh?
[0:05:09 – 0:05:10] Adam: What cell phone tower?
[0:05:10 – 0:05:11] Adam: It’s up.
[0:05:11 – 0:05:12] Adam: Which one?
[0:05:12 – 0:05:14] Adam: The one on the Gunflint Lake, no?
[0:05:15 – 0:05:15] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:05:15 – 0:05:16] Adam: I have no idea.
[0:05:16 – 0:05:16] Adam: Is it?
[0:05:16 – 0:05:17] Adam: Yeah, I saw it on the internet.
[0:05:18 – 0:05:19] Adam: Oh, the internet.
[0:05:19 – 0:05:19] Adam: Doesn’t lie.
[0:05:20 – 0:05:20] Adam: Deke’s mad.
[0:05:21 – 0:05:22] Adam: I’m mad.
[0:05:22 – 0:05:23] Adam: I’m sure.
[0:05:23 – 0:05:24] Adam: Deke, are you listening?
[0:05:25 – 0:05:25] Adam: Are you out there?
[0:05:25 – 0:05:26] Adam: Yeah.
[0:05:26 – 0:05:27] Adam: I’m a little mad.
[0:05:27 – 0:05:30] Adam: I was more mad about this a couple years ago.
[0:05:30 – 0:05:35] Adam: I was like, we’re going full Edward Abbey monkey wrench gang on this son of a gun tower.
[0:05:35 – 0:05:37] Adam: Not anymore.
[0:05:37 – 0:05:38] Adam: I’m like, whatever.
[0:05:38 – 0:05:39] Adam: He’s gone super boomer?
[0:05:41 – 0:05:45] Adam: It’s like, is that Super Saiyan but for dugs?
[0:05:45 – 0:05:49] Adam: Yeah, he’s just online yelling at everybody at Facebook who will listen.
[0:05:50 – 0:05:58] Adam: Yeah, honestly, God, like Facebook is unbearable almost, especially in the heat of the summer.
[0:05:58 – 0:05:59] Adam: People are very feisty.
[0:05:59 – 0:06:05] Adam: But, yeah, the cell phone tower is up apparently live, so you can make calls now from Magnetic Lake or whatever.
[0:06:06 – 0:06:08] Adam: Probably Larch has 5G now.
[0:06:09 – 0:06:09] Erik: Probably.
[0:06:09 – 0:06:18] Erik: Well, I mean, maybe that’ll change things and improve shipping scenarios for, shout out in a bad way, Magnum Trucking.
[0:06:19 – 0:06:22] Erik: You can go loon bleep yourself because… Loon bleep.
[0:06:23 – 0:06:25] Adam: You dirty old loon bleepers.
[0:06:25 – 0:06:30] Erik: They don’t drive past Hedstrom’s Lumber to deliver things because there’s no cell phone service.
[0:06:30 – 0:06:34] Erik: And so it’s like a policy of theirs, and they’ll call you the day of.
[0:06:34 – 0:06:37] Adam: They’re like, oh, turns out we don’t go past Hedstrom’s.
[0:06:37 – 0:06:45] Erik: Can you come to Grand Marais right now and pick up your thing that could very easily be shipped via UPS, FedEx, or Speedy?
[0:06:46 – 0:06:55] Erik: Oh, yeah, I’ll just drop what I’m doing and drive down to town to pick up a grill, which I didn’t realize when I was buying was going to be delivered in a full-size semi.
[0:06:55 – 0:06:58] Erik: So get out of here, Magnum.
[0:06:58 – 0:06:59] Erik: Start cooking.
[0:06:59 – 0:07:00] Erik: Coming up the trail.
[0:07:00 – 0:07:01] Adam: It’s so sad, it’s funny.
[0:07:01 – 0:07:03] Adam: You can’t go off the cell grid.
[0:07:03 – 0:07:04] Adam: Come on, boys.
[0:07:05 – 0:07:13] Adam: I ordered a part for the big oven, and it got off of eBay for some god-awful reason, and it got here.
[0:07:13 – 0:07:14] Adam: It got shipped.
[0:07:15 – 0:07:36] Adam: to our p.o box uh but then it made it all the way to grand marais to the post office with our name on it and for some reason then it got like we didn’t pick out i don’t know what happened it literally because they couldn’t ship the part to the p.o box because it’s ebay and
[0:07:38 – 0:07:39] Adam: but I had written it that way.
[0:07:39 – 0:07:45] Adam: And then the people at the post office like didn’t put two and two together and it got like returned to sender all the way back in Maine.
[0:07:45 – 0:07:46] Adam: Nice.
[0:07:47 – 0:07:52] Adam: And, uh, so yeah, like this part took like four and a half weeks to get here.
[0:07:53 – 0:07:54] Adam: And now we’ve got some other part out.
[0:07:54 – 0:07:55] Adam: It’s always something.
[0:07:56 – 0:07:59] Adam: There’s always a part out and it’s always about a month away now.
[0:07:59 – 0:08:00] Adam: I don’t understand it.
[0:08:00 – 0:08:01] Adam: What’s going on out there?
[0:08:02 – 0:08:04] Erik: Everybody’s just blaming everything on COVID.
[0:08:04 – 0:08:06] Adam: Oh, the supply chain’s disrupted though, Eric.
[0:08:07 – 0:08:13] Erik: Like I’m literally not getting any more crazy creaks until next year because of supply chain issues.
[0:08:14 – 0:08:18] Erik: So I’m just going to start blaming any bad customer service on COVID at this point as well.
[0:08:19 – 0:08:21] Erik: I’ve just been telling people it’s my first day.
[0:08:21 – 0:08:23] Adam: What’s the matter with you?
[0:08:23 – 0:08:25] Adam: Well, it’s my first day.
[0:08:25 – 0:08:25] Adam: I’m sorry.
[0:08:25 – 0:08:29] Adam: I don’t know what mozzarella cheese is.
[0:08:29 – 0:08:30] Adam: Is it this one?
[0:08:30 – 0:08:32] Adam: and just point at Havarti.
[0:08:33 – 0:08:34] Erik: I don’t know what’s a Havarti.
[0:08:35 – 0:08:37] Erik: That’s a good melting cheese at least.
[0:08:39 – 0:08:43] Adam: Even when I’m trying to lie and be as smart as, I can’t steer people too astray.
[0:08:43 – 0:08:46] Erik: You seem like you’re still steering them in a good replacement.
[0:08:48 – 0:08:56] Adam: We got a bunch of complainers, and I straight up just told somebody, well, you could try making it yourself if you don’t like the container it’s in.
[0:08:57 – 0:09:00] Erik: The tables of customer service, I feel like, are turning.
[0:09:00 – 0:09:05] Adam: We’re not putting up with this nonsense and ill treatment any longer.
[0:09:06 – 0:09:10] Adam: So you can take your attitude and go on back to Edina.
[0:09:10 – 0:09:14] Erik: Yeah, I feel like the business is always right now.
[0:09:14 – 0:09:17] Adam: Yeah, the days of the customer are always right is over.
[0:09:18 – 0:09:22] Adam: And it is July, so we’re letting off a little steam here on the beach.
[0:09:22 – 0:09:22] Adam: Yes.
[0:09:23 – 0:09:26] Erik: The pressure cooker is in effect.
[0:09:26 – 0:09:26] Erik: Yeah.
[0:09:27 – 0:09:28] Adam: Go make it yourself.
[0:09:28 – 0:09:29] Adam: You don’t like it.
[0:09:29 – 0:09:31] Adam: I haven’t told anybody to go to Subway yet.
[0:09:32 – 0:09:33] Adam: No.
[0:09:33 – 0:09:34] Adam: That’s just around the corner.
[0:09:34 – 0:09:35] Adam: Yeah, that is.
[0:09:36 – 0:09:43] Erik: I, uh, just before we get to our beer sponsors, uh, just a funny, I don’t know, maybe I’ve told this.
[0:09:43 – 0:09:44] Erik: I can’t even, I don’t even know anymore.
[0:09:44 – 0:09:47] Erik: We’re in the, in the middle of summer.
[0:09:47 – 0:09:51] Erik: I’m shocked that we can even like get episodes out on a weekly basis anymore.
[0:09:51 – 0:09:57] Erik: But, uh, a couple of weeks ago, these guys came in for a bunkhouse going on the next morning.
[0:09:58 – 0:09:59] Erik: And they were like, yeah, man, I don’t know.
[0:09:59 – 0:10:05] Erik: Like we were talking about how crazy like just everything is these days with how nobody can find good help.
[0:10:06 – 0:10:08] Erik: And they were like, yeah, Grand Marais, like there was like nothing open.
[0:10:09 – 0:10:09] Erik: We got into town.
[0:10:09 – 0:10:11] Erik: It was like 6.30, 7 o’clock at night.
[0:10:12 – 0:10:16] Erik: And we like could not find any restaurants that were open.
[0:10:17 – 0:10:18] Erik: No, I’m shocked.
[0:10:19 – 0:10:19] Erik: What?
[0:10:20 – 0:10:34] Erik: But the funniest part of it was, is they were like the the guy that was like kind of the head of the whole trip was he’s like, yeah, I run the like the north, the north suburbs in the Twin Cities, like all of the subways.
[0:10:34 – 0:10:35] Erik: He’s like the manager of it.
[0:10:35 – 0:10:37] Adam: He’s like the regional manager of a bunch of subways.
[0:10:38 – 0:10:41] Adam: And he’s, like, talking about… Look at the BMT on this guy.
[0:10:41 – 0:10:43] Adam: Look at the BMT on Brad.
[0:10:44 – 0:10:48] Erik: He’s talking about how they were, like, just barely being able to scrape by with the staff that they have and everything.
[0:10:48 – 0:10:51] Erik: And anyway, he’s, like, his kids all work at Subway.
[0:10:51 – 0:10:53] Erik: And obviously he works at Subway.
[0:10:53 – 0:10:56] Erik: And so they got into Grand Marais and nothing was open except…
[0:10:57 – 0:10:58] Adam: Subway.
[0:10:58 – 0:11:02] Erik: Like, I guess we’re going to Subway for dinner.
[0:11:02 – 0:11:06] Adam: That is even more sad than the cell phone tower going up, honestly.
[0:11:06 – 0:11:08] Adam: It’s the saddest thing I’ve heard all week.
[0:11:08 – 0:11:10] Adam: And I’ve heard some sad things in town this week.
[0:11:11 – 0:11:12] Erik: What else have you heard that’s sad?
[0:11:14 – 0:11:15] Adam: Just in general, pretty much everything.
[0:11:15 – 0:11:19] Adam: I mean, everything you see and hear is sad these days.
[0:11:19 – 0:11:21] Erik: Can they dig any farther down?
[0:11:21 – 0:11:23] Erik: Are they just putting a moat in?
[0:11:24 – 0:11:28] Erik: I feel like that’s what the construction in Grand Marais is at this point, is just a trench, a huge trench.
[0:11:28 – 0:11:31] Adam: Some sort of layer being installed.
[0:11:31 – 0:11:36] Erik: I actually did do a little bit of auxiliary research on that, on the whole project.
[0:11:36 – 0:11:47] Erik: And like, has any construction company ever come up with a, or like a municipality or a community ever come up with a better name for a construction project besides the big dig?
[0:11:47 – 0:11:48] Erik: That’s what they’re all called.
[0:11:48 – 0:11:49] Adam: The big dig is on.
[0:11:50 – 0:11:52] Adam: Here’s how you find your access to the business district.
[0:11:53 – 0:12:01] Erik: Yeah, and all they’re doing is just apparently digging up old polluted soil is the main thing that they’re doing.
[0:12:01 – 0:12:04] Adam: I think they’re digging up old contaminated ships.
[0:12:05 – 0:12:05] Adam: Ships?
[0:12:06 – 0:12:06] Adam: Wooden ships.
[0:12:07 – 0:12:08] Adam: They have the wooden boat show thing.
[0:12:09 – 0:12:13] Adam: But then after that, now they’ve got to go back in and get these contaminated ships out of here.
[0:12:14 – 0:12:17] Adam: They’ve got a bunch of herring radiation in them.
[0:12:18 – 0:12:21] Erik: Maybe they’ll find the old bones of old Charlie.
[0:12:21 – 0:12:23] Erik: Both the boat and the horse.
[0:12:23 – 0:12:24] Adam: The horses, for sure.
[0:12:26 – 0:12:28] Adam: Did you see the thing on Reddit?
[0:12:28 – 0:12:31] Adam: What noise does a horse make in every language?
[0:12:32 – 0:12:33] Adam: No, I did not.
[0:12:33 – 0:12:35] Adam: I’m not going to try and even go after some of those.
[0:12:35 – 0:12:38] Adam: They’re pretty bizarre, but it’s worth a look.
[0:12:38 – 0:12:41] Adam: If you’re on Reddit, go to Horse Reddit and check out the name.
[0:12:41 – 0:12:45] Adam: What does a horse sound like in each language?
[0:12:45 – 0:12:47] Adam: And I’ll tell you, here’s a spoiler for you.
[0:12:47 – 0:12:50] Adam: It’s not nay in Spanish.
[0:12:50 – 0:12:52] Adam: What is the subreddit for horses?
[0:12:53 – 0:12:53] Adam: Our horses.
[0:12:54 – 0:12:55] Erik: Okay.
[0:12:56 – 0:12:57] Adam: Not horseplay.
[0:12:57 – 0:13:00] Adam: Just a bunch of teenage girls with long braids.
[0:13:00 – 0:13:02] Adam: And teenage boys, Eric.
[0:13:03 – 0:13:04] Adam: Everybody is allowed to have a horse.
[0:13:04 – 0:13:09] Adam: Everybody is allowed to have a horse, but you know the hardcore horse people.
[0:13:09 – 0:13:13] Erik: Those girls that I remember back in middle school, you’d look over and they would just be drawing horses.
[0:13:14 – 0:13:15] Erik: Yeah, I guess.
[0:13:15 – 0:13:16] Erik: You want a horse real bad.
[0:13:17 – 0:13:18] Adam: I want to brush its hair.
[0:13:18 – 0:13:23] Adam: I want to brush its hair so good I’m going to braid it as braided as my hair is braided.
[0:13:23 – 0:13:25] Adam: I’m going to scrub its hooves.
[0:13:26 – 0:13:28] Erik: Feed it a bucket of apples, Eric.
[0:13:28 – 0:13:34] Erik: Well, we’re also sponsored this week by Barb.
[0:13:34 – 0:13:35] Erik: Thanks, Barb.
[0:13:36 – 0:13:42] Adam: I wish I would have written down all the different noises of the horses so I could have made some funny horse noises in appreciation of this beer sponsorship.
[0:13:43 – 0:13:44] Erik: That’s right.
[0:13:48 – 0:13:49] Erik: Clippity-clop.
[0:13:49 – 0:13:51] Erik: Clippity clippity clop.
[0:13:51 – 0:13:54] Erik: These are from Barb, like I said, a.k.a.
[0:13:54 – 0:13:55] Erik: Bird Doggin’ It.
[0:13:56 – 0:14:02] Erik: We got some from the meat college town, Decorah, Iowa.
[0:14:02 – 0:14:03] Erik: Yeah, Meat Industries.
[0:14:04 – 0:14:04] Adam: Meat Industries.
[0:14:04 – 0:14:06] Adam: Why’d you say it like that?
[0:14:06 – 0:14:07] Erik: It’s Meat Industries.
[0:14:08 – 0:14:09] Erik: Got some toppling Goliaths.
[0:14:10 – 0:14:12] Erik: We have not had these ones, though.
[0:14:12 – 0:14:14] Erik: We got a Pompeii.
[0:14:14 – 0:14:17] Erik: Mosaic.
[0:14:17 – 0:14:17] Erik: I-P-A.
[0:14:17 – 0:14:18] Erik: Tallboys.
[0:14:18 – 0:14:18] Erik: Tallboys.
[0:14:22 – 0:14:47] Adam: some stereo right there cheers much like the magma from uh the volcano that enveloped pompeii the red orb is uh just about to touch the treetops and is uh it’s about to be tumble home after dark yeah
[0:14:50 – 0:14:52] Adam: Tumble home after dark.
[0:14:53 – 0:14:53] Adam: Yes.
[0:14:55 – 0:14:55] Adam: Oh!
[0:14:55 – 0:14:58] Erik: You’re not allowed to do that.
[0:14:59 – 0:15:01] Adam: Tumble home after dark.
[0:15:03 – 0:15:07] Erik: We’ve got printed, printed Reddit.
[0:15:08 – 0:15:17] Erik: And not going to lie, it’s printed on permit paper because I didn’t want to go to the lodge to print it with regular paper because there were people in there.
[0:15:18 – 0:15:26] Erik: So I hid in the dark, closed room that is the outfitting building and sacrificed seven pages of permit paper.
[0:15:26 – 0:15:29] Erik: How many people rattled on the doors while you were in there for three minutes?
[0:15:30 – 0:15:31] Erik: Nobody, actually.
[0:15:31 – 0:15:33] Adam: I gotta get a look at your tiny chairs.
[0:15:34 – 0:15:36] Adam: I gotta get a look at their stoves.
[0:15:38 – 0:15:42] Erik: Any comments on the dehydrated food selection, Eric?
[0:15:42 – 0:15:44] Erik: Just seeing what you got going on in here.
[0:15:45 – 0:15:49] Adam: I’m just gonna look around a little, and this is a pretty neat map you got here.
[0:15:49 – 0:15:59] Erik: Yeah, I give the Pompeii IPA five out of five spewing deadly magmas.
[0:16:00 – 0:16:00] Erik: Or is it lava?
[0:16:01 – 0:16:04] Adam: When it’s in the air, it is lava.
[0:16:04 – 0:16:05] Adam: Okay.
[0:16:05 – 0:16:06] Erik: Well, then I give it… No, I think it’s magma.
[0:16:07 – 0:16:07] Erik: All right.
[0:16:07 – 0:16:09] Erik: Well, I’m giving it five out of five.
[0:16:11 – 0:16:13] Erik: TumbleHomeCast at gmail.com.
[0:16:13 – 0:16:16] Adam: Any geologists out there… What is that magma in the air called?
[0:16:16 – 0:16:17] Erik: Is it a fireball?
[0:16:18 – 0:16:18] Adam: Possibly.
[0:16:19 – 0:16:20] Erik: Possibly a fireball.
[0:16:21 – 0:16:22] Erik: Stay tuned, Hopalicious.
[0:16:22 – 0:16:26] Erik: There is maybe the first ever double sponsor.
[0:16:27 – 0:16:28] Adam: Oh, they’re guaranteed.
[0:16:28 – 0:16:30] Adam: There’s a double sponsor.
[0:16:30 – 0:16:32] Adam: I brought a cooler with an ice pack.
[0:16:32 – 0:16:38] Adam: I’m going to give this Topling Goliath fancy Iowa tall boy a six out of five.
[0:16:41 – 0:16:42] Adam: That’s a whistle.
[0:16:42 – 0:16:43] Erik: We should get one of those spinner whistles.
[0:16:50 – 0:16:52] Adam: Yeah, that’s pretty good.
[0:16:52 – 0:16:53] Adam: Pretty good.
[0:16:53 – 0:16:54] Adam: You nailed it.
[0:16:54 – 0:16:58] Adam: I’m going to give that spinner whistle noise also a six out of five mm’s.
[0:17:00 – 0:17:01] Adam: Yeah, I think it’s time.
[0:17:01 – 0:17:08] Adam: Me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me of the episode.
[0:17:08 – 0:17:12] Adam: We’re getting some pretty good sound effects out here on the beach.
[0:17:12 – 0:17:14] Adam: Tumble home after dark.
[0:17:15 – 0:17:18] Adam: In effect, here on Mink Lake, I’m coming to you live from the beach.
[0:17:18 – 0:17:21] Adam: We can’t stop recording live in the field.
[0:17:21 – 0:17:23] Adam: Gordy won’t allow us to sit inside.
[0:17:23 – 0:17:27] Adam: We’ve been living out in the barn with Gordy.
[0:17:28 – 0:17:32] Adam: And we got fresh straw and living our best life outside.
[0:17:32 – 0:17:33] Adam: It’s summertime.
[0:17:33 – 0:17:34] Adam: No reason to go inside.
[0:17:34 – 0:17:35] Erik: Don’t put on shoes.
[0:17:36 – 0:17:38] Adam: Let’s get after that paper, Reddit.
[0:17:38 – 0:17:40] Erik: Any Foley artists out there?
[0:17:40 – 0:17:41] Erik: How are we doing?
[0:17:41 – 0:17:42] Erik: Woo-da-da-da-da-da!
[0:17:44 – 0:17:51] Adam: This might win a Grammy for best sound effects.
[0:17:51 – 0:17:56] Adam: We’re probably racking in several Webbys and a couple few two-tree Grammys this year, I think, Eric.
[0:17:56 – 0:17:59] Erik: Has podcast been introduced to the Grammys yet?
[0:18:01 – 0:18:06] Erik: Where’s the mainstream media not recognize this legitimate form of art?
[0:18:06 – 0:18:08] Adam: They’re going to go back and retroactively award them later.
[0:18:08 – 0:18:10] Adam: Just don’t worry.
[0:18:10 – 0:18:11] Adam: This is all being recorded.
[0:18:11 – 0:18:13] Adam: This is all being recorded.
[0:18:13 – 0:18:15] Adam: It’s all going in the Library of Congress.
[0:18:15 – 0:18:18] Adam: They’re going to retroactively award our Grammys probably when we’re old.
[0:18:19 – 0:18:20] Adam: I was old.
[0:18:20 – 0:18:21] Adam: Who’s up first on the show?
[0:18:21 – 0:18:22] Adam: You’re going to start us out there?
[0:18:23 – 0:18:29] Erik: Well, before we jump straight into it, do we have any thoughts of our own or do we want to maybe save those?
[0:18:29 – 0:18:37] Erik: Because at this point, my Reindeer thoughts and game is pretty lazy.
[0:18:38 – 0:18:45] Erik: which I would say most of my gear items at this point are just out of pure laziness and what I’m most comfortable with.
[0:18:45 – 0:18:51] Erik: Like, if you listened to the last four episodes, you may have heard along the lines, I didn’t even bring rain gear.
[0:18:53 – 0:18:55] Erik: You’re a psychopathic killer.
[0:18:56 – 0:18:56] Erik: Raindrops.
[0:18:57 – 0:18:57] Erik: I have rain gear.
[0:18:58 – 0:19:04] Erik: Honestly, the only time that I really go, like, hardcore on rain gear is when it’s raining.
[0:19:04 – 0:19:12] Erik: And when I’m involved in tows down Clearwater Lake, where I know I can just come back and take it off and there’s no packing.
[0:19:13 – 0:19:14] Erik: And then I go, like, full-blown.
[0:19:14 – 0:19:16] Erik: I’m like, I’m crabbing.
[0:19:16 – 0:19:17] Erik: I’m a crabber, basically.
[0:19:17 – 0:19:20] Adam: Yeah, you got the yellow sea vest.
[0:19:21 – 0:19:21] Adam: Yeah.
[0:19:21 – 0:19:45] Erik: full on you could go over the overboard in the Aleutian Islands and be just fine yeah I stop I just check my pots on the way home and then uh sig I gotta check in with sig and get out of the nor’wester gotta make sure we keep him happy you know he smokes a sig every five minutes hence the name and yeah I mean if I don’t come back with a pot full of crabs as a crabber
[0:19:46 – 0:20:12] Erik: gonna be bad times check your pockets they’re all full of chowder yeah but like that’s full like rubber pants overalls full rubber suit i’m suited up but if i’m in the boundary waters i’m just like generally prepared to be mildly uncomfortable anyway and especially if it’s like summer like i’m not i don’t know i’m not really that worried about bringing rain gear yeah i don’t think either of us are worried about you know channeling our inner wet bird
[0:20:13 – 0:20:16] Erik: No, and whatever, I think at this point, it changes constantly.
[0:20:17 – 0:20:24] Erik: It’s like, I think maybe a North Face rain jacket that I have, but I have no allegiance to any specific brands at all.
[0:20:24 – 0:20:28] Erik: I think the lower unit rubbers are, I don’t know about that.
[0:20:31 – 0:20:33] Adam: Lower quality rubbers.
[0:20:34 – 0:20:35] Adam: What’d you get?
[0:20:35 – 0:20:38] Erik: Tumble home after dark.
[0:20:38 – 0:20:39] Erik: Lower unit rubbers.
[0:20:39 – 0:20:41] Erik: They are, I believe, Hallie Hansen’s.
[0:20:41 – 0:20:43] Erik: You’re talking about frog tags, I think.
[0:20:43 – 0:20:44] Erik: No, frog tags.
[0:20:44 – 0:20:46] Erik: That’s not rubber.
[0:20:46 – 0:20:48] Erik: I can’t get down with the frog tags.
[0:20:48 – 0:20:49] Erik: They’re just something about them.
[0:20:50 – 0:20:51] Erik: The material.
[0:20:51 – 0:20:52] Adam: I think it’s the name.
[0:20:52 – 0:20:53] Erik: I’m sus.
[0:20:53 – 0:20:54] Erik: I’m sus on the name.
[0:20:55 – 0:20:58] Adam: I will never wear something called frog tog, ever.
[0:20:59 – 0:21:01] Erik: I get the frog part, but what’s the tog part?
[0:21:02 – 0:21:04] Erik: Frogs, you know, they can slick.
[0:21:04 – 0:21:05] Erik: They got that slick skin.
[0:21:05 – 0:21:07] Erik: They can handle the rain and the wet, but the togs?
[0:21:08 – 0:21:08] Erik: Yeah.
[0:21:08 – 0:21:09] Erik: It’s just because it rhymes.
[0:21:09 – 0:21:10] Erik: It is.
[0:21:10 – 0:21:12] Erik: Nothing better rhymes with frogs, for real?
[0:21:14 – 0:21:14] Erik: Apparently not.
[0:21:15 – 0:21:18] Erik: So, yeah, we’re just getting straight into it.
[0:21:18 – 0:21:19] Erik: Our thoughts.
[0:21:19 – 0:21:20] Erik: What about frog cogs?
[0:21:21 – 0:21:23] Erik: You keep your feet dry, then.
[0:21:23 – 0:21:23] Erik: Frog bogs.
[0:21:25 – 0:21:28] Erik: Let’s see how long we can string out rhyming words with frogs.
[0:21:31 – 0:21:36] Erik: First up on the show, classic cheap dancer.
[0:21:36 – 0:21:39] Adam: Is this bags of wine?
[0:21:39 – 0:21:40] Adam: What is the red?
[0:21:40 – 0:21:47] Erik: Those are just the red dots are my colored ink.
[0:21:47 – 0:21:48] Erik: Oh, I see.
[0:21:48 – 0:21:50] Erik: We can see who the user is.
[0:21:50 – 0:21:54] Erik: The only thing that I didn’t get a good opportunity to copy and paste is
[0:21:55 – 0:22:06] Erik: Otherwise, it created a disaster of linking to weird images in Word because I had to copy and paste into Word and then print because you can’t just print straight off of Reddit.
[0:22:06 – 0:22:08] Erik: Otherwise, the computer will crash.
[0:22:10 – 0:22:14] Erik: So I had to mark the users just with a little bit of red marker.
[0:22:14 – 0:22:15] Erik: You see what I’ve done?
[0:22:15 – 0:22:19] Adam: Yeah, did you notice that there’s now a second beer sponsorship thread?
[0:22:19 – 0:22:20] Erik: 2.0, I did notice that.
[0:22:21 – 0:22:21] Erik: Pinned it.
[0:22:21 – 0:22:23] Erik: I finally did a mod thing, Eric.
[0:22:23 – 0:22:23] Erik: I pinned it.
[0:22:24 – 0:22:24] Erik: You did that?
[0:22:24 – 0:22:24] Erik: I did.
[0:22:24 – 0:22:26] Erik: Well, I’m going to have to revoke your mod ship.
[0:22:26 – 0:22:27] Erik: You didn’t run that by me.
[0:22:28 – 0:22:29] Erik: You didn’t pin it right, you idiot.
[0:22:30 – 0:22:31] Erik: You pinned it at the bottom.
[0:22:32 – 0:22:33] Adam: How’d you pin it retroactively?
[0:22:36 – 0:22:38] Erik: Of course, cheap dancer in with the…
[0:22:38 – 0:22:46] Erik: The other thing is we don’t have… We’re not going to have accurate upvotes and downvotes on this, so we’re just going to have to… You’re going to have to trust us.
[0:22:46 – 0:22:47] Adam: Noted.
[0:22:47 – 0:22:48] Adam: You can trust us again.
[0:22:49 – 0:22:50] Adam: Ash again.
[0:22:51 – 0:22:53] Adam: Trust us again.
[0:22:53 – 0:22:54] Erik: That was pretty good.
[0:22:54 – 0:22:56] Erik: Pretty good?
[0:22:56 – 0:22:57] Erik: We’re on point tonight.
[0:22:58 – 0:23:00] Adam: Question, is this duck out here in front of us?
[0:23:00 – 0:23:01] Adam: This is not a real duck, right?
[0:23:01 – 0:23:05] Adam: This has got to be some sort of water line for the camp over there?
[0:23:06 – 0:23:07] Adam: It’s pretty far away, though.
[0:23:07 – 0:23:10] Adam: That duck has not moved an inch since we’ve sat down.
[0:23:10 – 0:23:16] Erik: No, it’s probably just a log of poop left over from the winter that somebody deposited into an ice hole.
[0:23:17 – 0:23:19] Erik: That’s why we don’t swim in this lake.
[0:23:20 – 0:23:22] Adam: Yeah, I’ll sit at the beach here, but I wouldn’t swim on mink.
[0:23:23 – 0:23:26] Erik: No, not based on what I’ve seen.
[0:23:26 – 0:23:27] Erik: Not advised.
[0:23:27 – 0:23:28] Erik: All right.
[0:23:28 – 0:23:34] Erik: So cheap dancers in first, you know it’s a joke response because that’s what gets all the karma.
[0:23:35 – 0:23:35] Erik: Let’s be funny.
[0:23:36 – 0:23:36] Erik: Here we go.
[0:23:37 – 0:23:38] Erik: Moist is noised.
[0:24:05 – 0:24:07] Erik: Well, only when you want it to be noise.
[0:24:08 – 0:24:11] Erik: So, so far, no information has been provided.
[0:24:11 – 0:24:12] Erik: Thank you, Jeep Dance.
[0:24:12 – 0:24:14] Adam: Well, a big hat can be rain gear in its own ways.
[0:24:14 – 0:24:17] Adam: I’ll have to go ahead and disagree with your police work there, Lou.
[0:24:18 – 0:24:19] Erik: Yeah, I guess.
[0:24:19 – 0:24:22] Erik: Maybe, I mean, maybe sombrero?
[0:24:23 – 0:24:25] Erik: If you want to just go full, like, wearable umbrella.
[0:24:25 – 0:24:28] Erik: The urban sombrero, if you will.
[0:24:28 – 0:24:28] Erik: Yeah.
[0:24:29 – 0:24:30] Erik: Yeah.
[0:24:30 – 0:24:30] Erik: I like that.
[0:24:32 – 0:24:33] Adam: I got her.
[0:24:33 – 0:24:34] Erik: You got her.
[0:24:34 – 0:24:34] Adam: I can do it.
[0:24:35 – 0:24:37] Adam: Next up on the show, friend of the show, bird dogging it.
[0:24:37 – 0:24:38] Erik: Sponsor of the show.
[0:24:38 – 0:24:39] Adam: Sponsor of the show.
[0:24:40 – 0:24:42] Adam: How did… Anyways, extra outvote for you.
[0:24:42 – 0:24:45] Adam: I’m going to mark it down here with a…
[0:24:45 – 0:24:46] Adam: There we go.
[0:24:46 – 0:24:46] Adam: I got a crayon.
[0:24:48 – 0:24:53] Adam: Expensive rain gear that only sees action seasonally can be a tough pill to swallow.
[0:24:53 – 0:25:03] Adam: However, if you invest in a decent three-layer Goratex shell setup that is also used as an outer layer during snow season, the hefty price tags are way easier to justify.
[0:25:04 – 0:25:19] Adam: Also, the backcountry skiing shell snow kits seem to be a bit more durable, with features like reinforced cuffs on the pants, burlier zippers, and tons of venting options for folks who skin up mountainsides.
[0:25:20 – 0:25:30] Adam: When it comes to brands, Patagonian’s ironclad warranty is impossible to beat, and if you wear rain gear while moving in a canoe country, you’ll need it because of the rubbing of your PFD on your shoulders.
[0:25:31 – 0:25:35] Adam: will cause your jacket to bleed out a couple years sooner than expected.
[0:25:35 – 0:25:36] Adam: Bleed out.
[0:25:36 – 0:25:38] Erik: What’s the warranty on Patagonia gear?
[0:25:38 – 0:25:39] Erik: I don’t even know.
[0:25:39 – 0:25:40] Adam: It’s ironclad.
[0:25:41 – 0:25:42] Adam: It’s freaking ironclad.
[0:25:43 – 0:25:43] Adam: That’s what it is.
[0:25:44 – 0:25:45] Adam: What more do you need to know?
[0:25:45 – 0:25:48] Erik: I’m wearing some ironclad Patagonia shorts here.
[0:25:48 – 0:25:49] Erik: I got a bunch of paint on them.
[0:25:49 – 0:25:50] Erik: Can I send them back?
[0:25:51 – 0:25:51] Adam: Absolutely.
[0:25:51 – 0:25:52] Adam: Okay.
[0:25:52 – 0:25:53] Adam: Chunk, chunk.
[0:25:53 – 0:25:56] Adam: That’s your ironclad lock of the week.
[0:25:56 – 0:26:02] Erik: Next week, we’re going to be testing warranties by a bunch of different gear varieties and brands.
[0:26:03 – 0:26:09] Adam: Oh, we could definitely do a Consumer Reports Tumble Home Side Podcast where we just rigorously test gear under…
[0:26:10 – 0:26:31] Adam: laboratory conditions that seems like way too much work i feel like in the future we should just meet up randomly and essentially record a conversation since we haven’t seen each other and talk about uh construction in our local town what are they digging for are they putting in a secret layer we’re not even done with bird dogging it’s common i’m sorry we’re getting back to the comment right now thank you for your comment
[0:26:33 – 0:26:37] Adam: Luckily, with the ironclad guarantee, you can simply bring in your jacket and exchange it.
[0:26:38 – 0:26:38] Adam: Side tangent.
[0:26:39 – 0:26:40] Adam: Oh, no.
[0:26:40 – 0:26:42] Adam: There’s a side tangent on the tangent.
[0:26:42 – 0:26:45] Adam: What is up with folks wearing gloves while paddling?
[0:26:47 – 0:26:50] Adam: I’m talking normal gardening mechanic gloves.
[0:26:50 – 0:26:55] Adam: I’ve seen at least five different groups that had a Danny Glover in their midst, and I don’t get it.
[0:26:55 – 0:26:56] Adam: Make it stop.
[0:26:56 – 0:26:58] Adam: If you see something, say something.
[0:26:58 – 0:27:00] Adam: Don’t let this become a thing.
[0:27:00 – 0:27:01] Adam: Wow.
[0:27:01 – 0:27:02] Erik: Loved paddlers, Eric.
[0:27:02 – 0:27:08] Adam: What about like those gelled fingerless gloves that are, I guess, designed for paddling?
[0:27:09 – 0:27:22] Erik: I actually haven’t really seen too many people with gardening gloves on out there, but I guess we’ll maybe have to send a message to Father Gambino to see if he’s got any insight on.
[0:27:22 – 0:27:24] Erik: The elder Gambino.
[0:27:24 – 0:27:24] Erik: Yeah.
[0:27:24 – 0:27:32] Erik: I mean, honestly, I’ve seen gloves out there, but usually the ones I’ve seen have been a little bit more in like the neoprene, like this is meant for paddling.
[0:27:33 – 0:27:33] Erik: Yeah.
[0:27:33 – 0:27:50] Erik: I think I would probably have many more comments and opinions on a situation if literally it was like, typically like, you know, those gardening gloves are like all like, they’re like the cloth version of the plastic gloves that they put on at Subway.
[0:27:50 – 0:27:53] Erik: Where then it’s like just four times too big.
[0:27:53 – 0:28:00] Erik: And then you got to try to like finger like a tiny like see-through strip of ham onto a sandwich.
[0:28:00 – 0:28:01] Erik: I just feel bad.
[0:28:02 – 0:28:04] Erik: Tumble home after dark.
[0:28:06 – 0:28:08] Erik: Have you ever worn gloves while paddling?
[0:28:08 – 0:28:09] Adam: No.
[0:28:10 – 0:28:12] Adam: I don’t think I’ve ever seen you wear gloves while paddling.
[0:28:12 – 0:28:13] Adam: Remember, I wore mittens.
[0:28:14 – 0:28:15] Adam: I had brought mittens on our Equetico trip.
[0:28:15 – 0:28:19] Adam: A few of those cold days, I was wearing, like, leather mittens.
[0:28:19 – 0:28:19] Erik: Choppers?
[0:28:19 – 0:28:20] Erik: Paddling choppers?
[0:28:21 – 0:28:22] Erik: Choppers.
[0:28:22 – 0:28:23] Erik: Why buy them when you can grow them?
[0:28:24 – 0:28:24] Adam: That’s right.
[0:28:25 – 0:28:25] Adam: That’s right.
[0:28:27 – 0:28:33] Adam: Next up on the show, I’ve got Aldi1, friend of the show.
[0:28:35 – 0:28:37] Adam: Dear friend of the show, Aldi1, welcome.
[0:28:38 – 0:28:39] Adam: I go cheap on rain gear.
[0:28:39 – 0:28:41] Adam: I put my energy towards a nice tarp setup.
[0:28:42 – 0:28:45] Adam: Anyone who wears jeans deserves to get soaked.
[0:28:45 – 0:28:49] Adam: I don’t really see what one has to do with the other, but I love everything about this comment.
[0:28:49 – 0:28:51] Adam: Throwing jeans just right up.
[0:28:51 – 0:28:55] Adam: I love tarps and also loon bleep jeans.
[0:28:55 – 0:29:01] Erik: Yeah, and thanks for going two in a row so that I get the username that is very hard to pronounce.
[0:29:02 – 0:29:03] Adam: Yeah, and you get to flip the page.
[0:29:03 – 0:29:05] Erik: I also get to flip the page.
[0:29:05 – 0:29:08] Adam: I can’t flip pages in this wind.
[0:29:09 – 0:29:10] Erik: Any French Canadians out there?
[0:29:12 – 0:29:14] Erik: J’ai des poussins.
[0:29:14 – 0:29:15] Adam: Yeah, I think you got it.
[0:29:15 – 0:29:16] Erik: Nailed it.
[0:29:16 – 0:29:25] Erik: Some guy in the BWJ said blue jeans were all you need for canoe trip and pants, and he canoes more days per year than anyone.
[0:29:25 – 0:29:26] Erik: So doggone it.
[0:29:28 – 0:29:29] Erik: That’s what I wear.
[0:29:30 – 0:29:30] Adam: So back to back.
[0:29:31 – 0:29:33] Erik: Back-to-back slaggings on blue jeans.
[0:29:34 – 0:29:34] Erik: Smackdown.
[0:29:34 – 0:29:37] Adam: We’re about to get lit.
[0:29:37 – 0:29:41] Erik: You need to flip that over and read any rules and regulations on the permit there.
[0:29:41 – 0:29:42] Erik: You can feel free to do that.
[0:29:42 – 0:29:44] Adam: Jeans regulations.
[0:29:44 – 0:29:48] Erik: So that big top copy, you’re going to want to sign that, and that stays with you.
[0:29:48 – 0:29:56] Erik: And then any of those smaller ones, you also need to sign the bottom of and then decide who gets to keep those in any of the canoes that you’re not in.
[0:29:56 – 0:29:58] Erik: It doesn’t mean that you get to camp.
[0:29:59 – 0:29:59] Erik: wherever you want.
[0:29:59 – 0:30:08] Erik: It’s just if you’re out over the course of the day fishing in different locations and somebody asks, those are your permits.
[0:30:08 – 0:30:09] Adam: Am I trip leader?
[0:30:11 – 0:30:15] Erik: Yes, your name is the trip leader, and you are the group leader, so you sign all of them.
[0:30:15 – 0:30:16] Erik: Will my buddies need to sign them?
[0:30:16 – 0:30:18] Erik: No, you need to sign those.
[0:30:18 – 0:30:21] Erik: So if I wear jeans, there’s a $5,000 penalty?
[0:30:21 – 0:30:23] Erik: Jeans has nothing to do with it.
[0:30:23 – 0:30:24] Adam: Or six months in jail.
[0:30:24 – 0:30:25] Adam: Ha!
[0:30:26 – 0:30:28] Erik: Paddle faster.
[0:30:28 – 0:30:36] Erik: Up next, I have a Marmot Precip set that I got from Really Expensive Items.
[0:30:36 – 0:30:37] Erik: Whoa.
[0:30:38 – 0:30:39] Erik: Really Expensive Items.
[0:30:39 – 0:30:41] Erik: Those three words are caps.
[0:30:41 – 0:30:42] Erik: Is that a thing?
[0:30:42 – 0:30:43] Adam: Yeah, REI.
[0:30:44 – 0:30:45] Erik: Oh, God.
[0:30:45 – 0:30:46] Erik: Yeah, gotcha.
[0:30:46 – 0:30:49] Erik: We’re just going to… What is this?
[0:30:50 – 0:30:51] Erik: 30 minutes in.
[0:30:51 – 0:30:52] Erik: I’m going to make a note.
[0:30:52 – 0:30:53] Erik: I’m going to go back in.
[0:30:53 – 0:30:55] Erik: And I’m going to delete that.
[0:30:55 – 0:30:59] Adam: Because that one went… You’ve been on a roof all day.
[0:30:59 – 0:31:01] Adam: You can’t get them all.
[0:31:01 – 0:31:02] Erik: Yeah.
[0:31:02 – 0:31:03] Erik: That’s why you hired me.
[0:31:03 – 0:31:04] Erik: That’s why we’re both here together.
[0:31:05 – 0:31:05] Erik: Otherwise…
[0:31:05 – 0:31:05] Adam: I’m an expert.
[0:31:06 – 0:31:06] Erik: Yeah.
[0:31:07 – 0:31:08] Erik: And it works adequately.
[0:31:08 – 0:31:09] Erik: Okay.
[0:31:09 – 0:31:13] Erik: Only downside is I get clammy in it if I got short sleeves on.
[0:31:13 – 0:31:14] Erik: So good.
[0:31:14 – 0:31:16] Erik: It’s lightweight and also works well as a wind layer.
[0:31:17 – 0:31:23] Erik: Rain pants with zipper leg cuffs are preferable so you can take them off and on without removing your footwear.
[0:31:24 – 0:31:25] Erik: Yeah, boy.
[0:31:25 – 0:31:28] Erik: I can barely put my underwear on in the morning without getting a foot stuck.
[0:31:29 – 0:31:32] Erik: God forbid trying to get rain pants on with boots on.
[0:31:32 – 0:31:33] Adam: Just think if you had a dead toe.
[0:31:34 – 0:31:35] Adam: That thing gets snagged on everything.
[0:31:36 – 0:31:39] Erik: The nail is flipping back like a hood.
[0:31:39 – 0:31:44] Adam: Yeah, one time I was putting on a pair of pants with a mesh liner on them.
[0:31:44 – 0:31:47] Adam: Let me tell you, it was unpleasant.
[0:31:47 – 0:31:49] Erik: The liner is no longer mesh.
[0:31:50 – 0:31:52] Adam: That’s how Mesh Boy got started.
[0:31:52 – 0:31:53] Adam: Remember that kid?
[0:31:53 – 0:31:55] Adam: Yeah, he’s probably got it too.
[0:31:55 – 0:31:56] Erik: Oh, God’s boy.
[0:31:56 – 0:31:59] Erik: Wait, Paddle Faster’s not done.
[0:31:59 – 0:32:05] Erik: It’s important to air them out completely when it gets damp, or it can stick to itself and wreck the coating.
[0:32:05 – 0:32:06] Adam: We can’t have that.
[0:32:06 – 0:32:08] Erik: It’s kind of like Fisher maps.
[0:32:08 – 0:32:11] Erik: You can’t let those that you don’t let the paint touch the paint when it’s wet.
[0:32:12 – 0:32:13] Erik: Otherwise it’ll rub off.
[0:32:14 – 0:32:17] Erik: PFD question from paddle faster here.
[0:32:17 – 0:32:19] Adam: PFD over or under.
[0:32:20 – 0:32:22] Adam: I’m a unanimous.
[0:32:23 – 0:32:25] Adam: And proud over wearer.
[0:32:26 – 0:32:27] Erik: Well, it depends on the PFD.
[0:32:27 – 0:32:30] Erik: If you’ve got dill dens that you need access to, for sure, over.
[0:32:30 – 0:32:34] Adam: Yeah, you can’t be hiding your dens underneath the raincoat.
[0:32:35 – 0:32:35] Erik: Come on.
[0:32:35 – 0:32:37] Erik: I need access to dens.
[0:32:37 – 0:32:39] Adam: Dens over coats.
[0:32:40 – 0:32:40] Adam: All day.
[0:32:41 – 0:32:42] Erik: All day one.
[0:32:43 – 0:32:44] Adam: That’s right.
[0:32:44 – 0:32:44] Erik: But no.
[0:32:45 – 0:32:47] Erik: Next up on the show, exhausted, horty…
[0:32:49 – 0:32:50] Adam: This is great.
[0:32:50 – 0:32:51] Erik: First up, I think.
[0:32:51 – 0:32:54] Adam: Welcome to the show, Exhausted Horte.
[0:32:55 – 0:32:56] Erik: Pew, pew, pew.
[0:32:56 – 0:32:57] Adam: Welcome.
[0:32:58 – 0:32:59] Adam: Thank you for your comment.
[0:33:00 – 0:33:00] Adam: I would agree.
[0:33:00 – 0:33:08] Adam: This is a very season situation dependent question and also depends on how hot you run as a person to some extent.
[0:33:09 – 0:33:16] Adam: In the summer, my partner and I don’t mess with rain pants if we aren’t in the mountains because we’re just going to drench ourselves in our own rain.
[0:33:17 – 0:33:17] Adam: Sweat.
[0:33:18 – 0:33:19] Adam: If we wear them.
[0:33:19 – 0:33:24] Adam: In the warm months, we only wear the rain jackets if it is a cool rain or torrential downpour.
[0:33:25 – 0:33:35] Adam: Otherwise, we just accept our moist fate and plan to put our damp camp clothes and rain gear in camp when we won’t be moving around and sweating as much.
[0:33:39 – 0:34:04] Adam: tumble home after dark i have to say uh top top uh episode title at this point is moist fate uh we wear i did not realize this episode was gonna be so sexy oh we wear mostly quick dry clothes gear in camp when we won’t be moving around sweating as much
[0:34:07 – 0:34:08] Adam: What has happened?
[0:34:08 – 0:34:11] Adam: I’ve gotten so riled up.
[0:34:12 – 0:34:13] Adam: Unable to read.
[0:34:14 – 0:34:16] Adam: We wear mostly quick-dry clothes.
[0:34:16 – 0:34:18] Adam: Three, two, one.
[0:34:19 – 0:34:25] Adam: We wear mostly quick-dry clothes, so things are often dry on the line before we zonk out for the night.
[0:34:26 – 0:34:33] Adam: However, in early spring and fall, we put on the jacket and pants with any sort of rain, since it is much harder to stay warm if you are wet.
[0:34:34 – 0:34:38] Adam: As far as what kind of rain gear we buy, we don’t break the bank for it.
[0:34:39 – 0:34:53] Adam: Frog togs are the way we usually go, although a couple years ago I got myself a nicer Carhartt rain jacket that I use in my day-to-day life as well as bring camping with me since it packs down to a nice small ball.
[0:34:54 – 0:35:05] Adam: We figure when we do wear rain gear, the amount of sticks and stuff that can cause a rip is so high we don’t want to waste money on expensive gear when the frog togs have managed nicely.
[0:35:06 – 0:35:13] Adam: And if when they rip, it isn’t as heartbreaking of an experience and can usually be repaired with a quick patch of duct tape.
[0:35:13 – 0:35:14] Adam: There you go.
[0:35:14 – 0:35:14] Adam: Duct tape.
[0:35:16 – 0:35:18] Adam: They’re going to make it to the Sweet 16 someday.
[0:35:19 – 0:35:19] Adam: Duct tape.
[0:35:21 – 0:35:27] Adam: All right, well, there’s your first FrogTogs reference, and welcome to the show, Exhausted Horte.
[0:35:27 – 0:35:27] Adam: Thank you.
[0:35:28 – 0:35:29] Erik: Exhausted Horte.
[0:35:29 – 0:35:35] Erik: I like the sentiment of, like, it’s not…
[0:35:36 – 0:35:52] Erik: Worth spending money on very fine rain gear when you’re going to be plunging into the woods, like, hunting for firewood, even portaging, and just generally, like, how stuff gets worn and abused on a bachelorette’s trip.
[0:35:52 – 0:35:58] Erik: Like, save the nice stuff for your, like, trip to Europe, walking down the streets of Versailles.
[0:35:58 – 0:36:03] Adam: Yeah, get a nice silk vest for when you’re in Marseille.
[0:36:03 – 0:36:04] Adam: Marseille.
[0:36:05 – 0:36:10] Adam: Maybe get yourself a nice pair of leather pants for your next visit to Nice.
[0:36:10 – 0:36:11] Erik: Yeah, I think.
[0:36:11 – 0:36:12] Erik: On the Riviera.
[0:36:13 – 0:36:16] Erik: Well, Nice is also, no, I guess it’s pronounced Nice.
[0:36:16 – 0:36:17] Erik: Nice?
[0:36:17 – 0:36:17] Erik: Nice?
[0:36:17 – 0:36:17] Erik: Nice.
[0:36:18 – 0:36:19] Erik: No, I know, but I was thinking of the lake.
[0:36:19 – 0:36:20] Erik: Oh, yes.
[0:36:21 – 0:36:21] Erik: And the rock.
[0:36:22 – 0:36:29] Erik: But, like, yeah, honestly, like, you really should just do, like, the desperate, I got caught out at a baseball game, cut holes in a big garbage bag.
[0:36:29 – 0:36:29] Erik: Yeah.
[0:36:29 – 0:36:32] Erik: Should basically be what you use in the Boundary Waters.
[0:36:32 – 0:36:33] Adam: I agree.
[0:36:33 – 0:36:40] Adam: Like, I feel the same way about sunglasses and fishing, not fishing rods, but the fishing reel.
[0:36:40 – 0:36:41] Erik: Real, yeah.
[0:36:41 – 0:36:43] Adam: There’s some things that just aren’t worth spending up on.
[0:36:44 – 0:36:48] Adam: I got to say, I come down on this side when it comes to rain gear.
[0:36:49 – 0:36:52] Adam: I like the idea, although I’m not sure frog togs are the way.
[0:36:52 – 0:36:53] Adam: Well, I don’t know.
[0:36:53 – 0:36:55] Adam: Frog togs are nicer than a garbage bag, that’s for sure.
[0:36:55 – 0:36:56] Erik: Definitely.
[0:36:56 – 0:36:57] Erik: Yeah, talk about getting clammy.
[0:36:58 – 0:37:01] Erik: Ooh, tumble home after dark.
[0:37:01 – 0:37:01] UNKNOWN: Ooh.
[0:37:04 – 0:37:07] Erik: Am I going to have to mark this episode explicit?
[0:37:07 – 0:37:11] Erik: Listen to the erotic moans on the beach.
[0:37:11 – 0:37:13] Erik: You can only get four innuendos.
[0:37:13 – 0:37:14] Erik: We’re caught off.
[0:37:14 – 0:37:15] Adam: We’re already over our limit.
[0:37:16 – 0:37:18] Adam: We haven’t even reached a half hour.
[0:37:18 – 0:37:19] Erik: No, I think we have.
[0:37:19 – 0:37:21] Erik: We’re at over a half hour.
[0:37:21 – 0:37:24] Adam: So we get two more bonus moans in the second hour.
[0:37:24 – 0:37:25] Erik: Bonus moans.
[0:37:27 – 0:37:32] Erik: Bonus moans and moist fate, I think, is the… Moist fate.
[0:37:33 – 0:37:38] Erik: And we’re up the runnings for potential episode titles.
[0:37:38 – 0:37:39] Adam: This is the sexiest episode of Tumble Home.
[0:37:39 – 0:37:42] Adam: I never expected this when I left the house tonight.
[0:37:42 – 0:37:43] Adam: Come up here to the beach.
[0:37:44 – 0:37:45] Adam: Sweating, clammy.
[0:37:47 – 0:37:48] Erik: Maps and maps.
[0:37:50 – 0:37:51] Erik: Coming in next.
[0:37:52 – 0:37:53] Erik: Thanks, everybody.
[0:37:53 – 0:37:56] Erik: And thank you, Maps and Maps, for the responses.
[0:37:56 – 0:37:57] Adam: Thank you, Maps and Maps.
[0:37:58 – 0:38:04] Erik: Thank you for the free content because our brains have not had a moment to think about it on our end.
[0:38:04 – 0:38:05] Adam: I can barely read.
[0:38:06 – 0:38:08] Erik: All you can do is make moaning noises.
[0:38:09 – 0:38:16] Erik: After decades of El Cheapo and just sucking it up, I invested in expensive gear this season.
[0:38:16 – 0:38:18] Erik: Like $400 worth of pants and anorak.
[0:38:19 – 0:38:20] Erik: And now we’re in a drought.
[0:38:21 – 0:38:22] Erik: Yeah.
[0:38:22 – 0:38:27] Erik: But it worked well in test conditions in the holiday car wash. Wow.
[0:38:27 – 0:38:30] Erik: That’s a heck of a test condition.
[0:38:30 – 0:38:30] Adam: There’s some content.
[0:38:30 – 0:38:31] Adam: We’ve got to get a video of this.
[0:38:32 – 0:38:35] Erik: I think there are some things that are well worth the money if you can shell it out.
[0:38:35 – 0:38:41] Erik: An in-reach, a lightweight paddle, or a double blade if solo, a lightweight canoe, and good rain gear.
[0:38:41 – 0:38:44] Erik: Especially if you’re paddling in the early or late season.
[0:38:45 – 0:38:46] Erik: I mean, I think we’re all on the same page here.
[0:38:46 – 0:38:51] Erik: We should just shut her down, get it all figured out, early or late, when it’s cold, put the good stuff on.
[0:38:52 – 0:38:56] Erik: When you’re tromping through the woods mid-season, just get the emergency Coghlan’s poncho.
[0:38:58 – 0:38:59] Adam: And nobody’s mentioned the Coghlan’s poncho.
[0:39:00 – 0:39:01] Erik: It’s the cheapest you can get.
[0:39:02 – 0:39:04] Erik: There’s a certain…
[0:39:06 – 0:39:08] Erik: I don’t know what the word is.
[0:39:08 – 0:39:21] Erik: I’m intrigued by really off-brand, even below Coghlan’s brand, like Stan Sport and Coghlan’s, obviously.
[0:39:21 – 0:39:26] Erik: Any kind of a gear item where there is a picture of somebody using it on the front…
[0:39:27 – 0:39:30] Erik: Or like really cheap beach toys and stuff.
[0:39:30 – 0:39:32] Erik: They’re like, where did they find these people?
[0:39:33 – 0:39:34] Erik: They do not look happy.
[0:39:35 – 0:39:36] Erik: Did they get paid?
[0:39:38 – 0:39:39] Erik: What is the story with this man?
[0:39:39 – 0:39:42] Erik: He looks so, so unhappy.
[0:39:42 – 0:39:45] Erik: He actually paid to be in the ad.
[0:39:45 – 0:39:48] Erik: I got to get at least something in my portfolio.
[0:39:48 – 0:39:52] Erik: So when I send in my headshot, I got a Coghlan’s under the belt.
[0:39:53 – 0:39:53] Erik: Know your worth.
[0:39:54 – 0:39:54] Adam: Know your worth.
[0:39:55 – 0:39:56] Adam: Next up on the show.
[0:39:57 – 0:39:58] Adam: Friend of the show.
[0:39:59 – 0:39:59] Adam: Hold up.
[0:40:02 – 0:40:03] Adam: You’re down here.
[0:40:03 – 0:40:04] Adam: I see.
[0:40:05 – 0:40:08] Adam: Next up on the show, whiskey sipper four days ago.
[0:40:09 – 0:40:10] Adam: Is that what it says?
[0:40:12 – 0:40:12] Adam: It does.
[0:40:13 – 0:40:14] Erik: I don’t think it’s what it says.
[0:40:16 – 0:40:16] Erik: FD?
[0:40:16 – 0:40:17] Erik: Whiskies.
[0:40:17 – 0:40:18] Erik: Whiskies.
[0:40:19 – 0:40:19] Erik: Yeah, it is.
[0:40:19 – 0:40:21] Erik: I thought I saw D in there.
[0:40:21 – 0:40:22] Erik: I thought I said whiskey dipper.
[0:40:23 – 0:40:25] Erik: Which must be a fun username.
[0:40:25 – 0:40:26] Erik: That one’s up for grabs.
[0:40:27 – 0:40:29] Adam: I applaud the spelling of whiskey with an I-E.
[0:40:30 – 0:40:33] Adam: I also prefer musky to be spelled that way.
[0:40:34 – 0:40:35] Adam: Muskelunge.
[0:40:36 – 0:40:41] Erik: So does that mean that the musky is a European musky when it’s spelled I-E?
[0:40:41 – 0:40:43] Adam: No, I just like the I-E.
[0:40:43 – 0:40:49] Adam: I don’t know if that denotes European or North American descent on the musky’s part.
[0:40:49 – 0:40:51] Adam: I think it’s just better that way.
[0:40:52 – 0:40:53] Erik: tumblehomecast.gmail.com.
[0:40:53 – 0:40:56] Erik: What’s the difference between whiskey, IE, or EY?
[0:40:56 – 0:40:57] Erik: There is a difference.
[0:40:57 – 0:40:59] Adam: There is a difference, and I’m not anti-Y.
[0:41:01 – 0:41:03] Adam: When it comes to whiskey and musky, I like the IE.
[0:41:04 – 0:41:04] Adam: I don’t know why.
[0:41:05 – 0:41:06] Adam: It’s a personal preference.
[0:41:07 – 0:41:08] Adam: Next up on the show, Whiskey Sipper.
[0:41:09 – 0:41:11] Adam: I got a rain jacket, but nothing fancy.
[0:41:12 – 0:41:14] Adam: I’m more concerned with keeping camp dry.
[0:41:15 – 0:41:17] Adam: A nice camp tarp is my style.
[0:41:18 – 0:41:19] Erik: I just love the, I got a rain jacket.
[0:41:20 – 0:41:22] Erik: I got a rain jacket.
[0:41:22 – 0:41:23] Erik: Let me tell you about this thing.
[0:41:25 – 0:41:28] Adam: Keep the gear dry and change when you’re ready to settle in for the night.
[0:41:28 – 0:41:31] Adam: I’m fine being wet on the go as long as I got dry stuff waiting for me.
[0:41:32 – 0:41:37] Adam: A flask goes a long way for warmth in a cool rain.
[0:41:38 – 0:41:39] Adam: Indeed it does.
[0:41:40 – 0:41:40] Erik: Indeed it does.
[0:41:41 – 0:41:48] Adam: I don’t personally drink whiskey while camping, but see the last four episodes for evidence of that.
[0:41:48 – 0:41:49] Adam: It’s clear.
[0:41:50 – 0:41:52] Adam: But I appreciate the sentiment.
[0:41:52 – 0:41:59] Erik: Yeah, no, and I think I definitely agree with the, it’s sort of like my same mentality with footwear.
[0:42:00 – 0:42:09] Erik: As long as I have something warm and dry to put on at the end of the day, I can handle a little bit of being wet to save some space for more of the inner rain jacket.
[0:42:09 – 0:42:18] Adam: Yeah, I’m kind of on, I’m honestly kind of on team tarp slash large sombrero cowboy hat.
[0:42:19 – 0:42:20] Adam: Check yourself.
[0:42:20 – 0:42:22] Erik: It’s just you and cheap dancer on that team right now.
[0:42:23 – 0:42:29] Adam: Get a big hat and a tarp and keep all your stuff dry that needs to stay dry and then let the rest of it get wet.
[0:42:29 – 0:42:29] Adam: Who cares?
[0:42:29 – 0:42:31] Adam: Especially when it’s like this.
[0:42:31 – 0:42:32] Adam: I could sit right here right now.
[0:42:32 – 0:42:33] Adam: It could start raining right now.
[0:42:34 – 0:42:35] Adam: I wouldn’t scramble for the car.
[0:42:35 – 0:42:38] Adam: It’s 75 degrees after dark.
[0:42:39 – 0:42:40] Erik: No, don’t do it.
[0:42:41 – 0:42:41] Erik: Yes.
[0:42:43 – 0:43:08] Adam: and uh it could rain right now and i wouldn’t care honestly but yeah i mean you’re in the you’re in the fall you know and it’s a borderline rain slash sleet then yeah you gotta adjust and uh react differently yeah no i would agree that spend the money on a a nice a nice ccs shout out ccs rain fly that’s where the money should be spent
[0:43:09 – 0:43:14] Erik: Because you can’t get everybody into a rain jacket, but you can get everybody under a rain fly.
[0:43:15 – 0:43:16] Erik: You know what I learned the other day?
[0:43:16 – 0:43:21] Adam: Rain fly is just like a rain jacket for your whole team.
[0:43:22 – 0:43:22] Adam: There you go.
[0:43:23 – 0:43:23] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:43:24 – 0:43:24] Adam: Again.
[0:43:24 – 0:43:27] Adam: It’s like a cowboy hat for everybody in your group.
[0:43:27 – 0:43:27] Erik: It’s a group hat.
[0:43:32 – 0:43:35] Erik: So the other day, again, maybe this has been mentioned.
[0:43:36 – 0:43:37] Erik: I don’t believe it has been.
[0:43:37 – 0:43:44] Erik: But a couple of these guys came in to outfit, and they’re like, yeah, we’re going to need a bear barrel, a two-person tent, and a wing.
[0:43:44 – 0:43:48] Adam: I was like, water wings?
[0:43:48 – 0:43:48] Adam: Yeah.
[0:43:50 – 0:43:51] Erik: No, this is what happened.
[0:43:51 – 0:43:52] Erik: Connor, shout out.
[0:43:52 – 0:43:53] Erik: Get back to work, Connor.
[0:43:53 – 0:43:57] Erik: Connor, go drink an old Milwaukee and take a load off.
[0:43:57 – 0:44:00] Adam: Don’t listen to this guy.
[0:44:00 – 0:44:02] Erik: Side tangent on a side tangent.
[0:44:02 – 0:44:03] Adam: I’m labored upright.
[0:44:03 – 0:44:06] Adam: We’re not working for the man anymore, Connor.
[0:44:06 – 0:44:12] Erik: The day after those old Milwaukees got dropped off, the staff was like, I think we should take a month off drinking.
[0:44:12 – 0:44:13] Erik: And I’m like, you’ve got to be kidding me.
[0:44:14 – 0:44:18] Erik: You’re taking a precious space in the food room right now with your 30-pack of old Milwaukee.
[0:44:19 – 0:44:20] Erik: There’s 28 of them in there right now.
[0:44:21 – 0:44:21] Erik: In July?
[0:44:21 – 0:44:22] Erik: In July?
[0:44:23 – 0:44:25] Erik: Two days before the 4th of July.
[0:44:25 – 0:44:27] Erik: You’re going to stop drinking on God’s birthday?
[0:44:27 – 0:44:28] Erik: Come on.
[0:44:28 – 0:44:29] Adam: Connor, Jesus is very upset.
[0:44:30 – 0:44:30] Erik: We’re all…
[0:44:31 – 0:44:32] Adam: I want you to drink the old Milwaukee.
[0:44:32 – 0:44:33] Erik: We’re all very upset.
[0:44:33 – 0:44:34] Adam: Are you out there?
[0:44:34 – 0:44:34] Adam: Are you listening?
[0:44:35 – 0:44:35] Adam: Jesus?
[0:44:35 – 0:44:36] Adam: Can you believe this?
[0:44:36 – 0:44:37] Adam: And…
[0:44:37 – 0:44:40] Erik: Anyway, he came in and he’s like, yeah, these guys want this, that, and the other thing.
[0:44:40 – 0:44:41] Erik: And then they also want a wing.
[0:44:41 – 0:44:42] Erik: What’s a wing?
[0:44:42 – 0:44:44] Erik: I was like, I don’t know what a wing is.
[0:44:45 – 0:44:45] Erik: What’s a wing?
[0:44:46 – 0:44:49] Erik: And then finally, like 20 minutes later, after breakfast or whatever, I asked him.
[0:44:49 – 0:44:52] Erik: I’m like, yeah, we’ve got all your stuff set up, but I have no idea.
[0:44:52 – 0:44:53] Erik: What is a wing?
[0:44:53 – 0:44:56] Erik: Apparently out west, that’s what they call rainflies.
[0:44:57 – 0:44:59] Erik: Oh, so a wing.
[0:44:59 – 0:45:01] Erik: Put that in your back pocket.
[0:45:01 – 0:45:02] Adam: I’ll put that feather in my cap.
[0:45:03 – 0:45:09] Erik: Well, I was just going to say maybe let the hole be created in your back pocket so that it can fall out because that’s pointless information.
[0:45:09 – 0:45:12] Erik: That’s a stupid thing to call rainflies.
[0:45:12 – 0:45:13] Erik: Yeah, we’re never going to call them wings.
[0:45:14 – 0:45:15] Adam: We’ve got an order of three wings up.
[0:45:16 – 0:45:17] Adam: Is that like a triangle tarp?
[0:45:17 – 0:45:18] Erik: What’s the deal?
[0:45:18 – 0:45:19] Erik: Maybe that’s why they call it a wing.
[0:45:20 – 0:45:20] Erik: Ours are square.
[0:45:20 – 0:45:21] Erik: They’re not wings.
[0:45:22 – 0:45:24] Adam: Yeah, we don’t have that much wind or sand out here.
[0:45:25 – 0:45:26] Adam: We can have square tarps.
[0:45:26 – 0:45:27] Adam: Thank you very much.
[0:45:27 – 0:45:29] Erik: Yeah, this isn’t groover country.
[0:45:29 – 0:45:31] Adam: So did they ever drink the old Milwaukee’s?
[0:45:31 – 0:45:33] Adam: No, they’re still sitting in the food room in room temperature.
[0:45:33 – 0:45:35] Adam: In the food room?
[0:45:35 – 0:45:36] Adam: I put them in the fridge.
[0:45:37 – 0:45:37] Adam: Well, they had to.
[0:45:37 – 0:45:39] Adam: Hopalicious is going to be very upset about this.
[0:45:39 – 0:45:44] Erik: Yeah, Hopalicious, write an angry letter directly to the staff.
[0:45:44 – 0:45:46] Erik: Clearwater Lodge, attention, Connor.
[0:45:46 – 0:45:46] Adam: Connor.
[0:45:46 – 0:45:46] Adam: Connor.
[0:45:48 – 0:45:48] Erik: Never again.
[0:45:48 – 0:46:00] Erik: You’ve ruined a thing that I was going to try to start for the staff, which is drop me an atom off the nice stuff and then drop the staff off very large quantities of the garbage beer.
[0:46:00 – 0:46:01] Adam: It’s not garbage.
[0:46:01 – 0:46:01] Adam: It’s refreshing.
[0:46:02 – 0:46:03] Adam: It’s Old Milwaukee.
[0:46:04 – 0:46:05] Erik: It’s not that bad.
[0:46:05 – 0:46:06] Erik: It’s pretty bad.
[0:46:06 – 0:46:10] Erik: Give me the Old Milwaukee light, maybe, if I’m going to pound a bunch of them.
[0:46:10 – 0:46:11] Adam: Wow.
[0:46:11 – 0:46:15] Adam: I mean, I prefer a Ham’s special light to an Old Milwaukee light.
[0:46:15 – 0:46:16] Adam: We’re splitting hairs here, are we not?
[0:46:17 – 0:46:27] Erik: This was also during the same week where a neighbor, because obviously the staff helps the neighbors out on the lake, came over with a 24-pack of Yingling in bottles.
[0:46:27 – 0:46:28] Erik: Oh, that’s why.
[0:46:28 – 0:46:30] Erik: It’s not as good as the Yingling in bottles.
[0:46:30 – 0:46:37] Erik: No, it’s not that at all, but they kind of went to town on the yinglings, and they were like, uh, I don’t feel really good because we’ve been drinking so many yinglings.
[0:46:37 – 0:46:38] Erik: I’m like, yeah, that’s your problem.
[0:46:39 – 0:46:39] Erik: Grow up.
[0:46:41 – 0:47:01] Erik: yeah exactly it’s like well don’t zoomers don’t drink don’t drink eight yinglings a night you’ll feel a lot better don’t take it out on the old milwaukee that you’ve been chugging pennsylvania swill oldest brewery in the country western rafters and their wings out here in groover country can put down a case of yingling and not cry about it
[0:47:01 – 0:47:02] Adam: Yeah, I don’t know.
[0:47:02 – 0:47:03] Adam: They’d drink the old Milwaukee.
[0:47:04 – 0:47:06] Erik: I mean, you’re hafting canoes.
[0:47:06 – 0:47:08] Erik: You’re working outside all day.
[0:47:08 – 0:47:11] Erik: Your bare minimum should be seven yinglings.
[0:47:11 – 0:47:13] Adam: You’ve got to stay hydrated for Christ’s sakes.
[0:47:13 – 0:47:15] Adam: It’s going to be 90 tomorrow, Connor.
[0:47:15 – 0:47:15] Adam: Pfft.
[0:47:16 – 0:47:21] Erik: No, this is just a podcast for Connor.
[0:47:21 – 0:47:22] Adam: Chafty-rific.
[0:47:22 – 0:47:23] Adam: I like Connor.
[0:47:23 – 0:47:23] Adam: Yes.
[0:47:23 – 0:47:25] Adam: I give him a hard time because I like him.
[0:47:26 – 0:47:27] Erik: Yeah, exactly.
[0:47:27 – 0:47:31] Adam: I can see something in him that I saw myself one day.
[0:47:32 – 0:47:37] Erik: If we’re not making fun of you, that’s when you should be questioning your behavior.
[0:47:37 – 0:47:40] Erik: You should be worried sick.
[0:47:41 – 0:47:42] Erik: Chafty-rific.
[0:47:42 – 0:47:43] Erik: Here we go.
[0:47:43 – 0:47:44] Adam: I think it’s toft-rific.
[0:47:44 – 0:47:46] Adam: Toft-rific.
[0:47:46 – 0:47:47] Erik: Two words.
[0:47:48 – 0:47:49] Erik: Armpit zippers.
[0:47:50 – 0:48:00] Erik: The armpit zipper allows for a refreshing shot of cool air across the back while paddling or carrying a pack in a dank rain situation.
[0:48:00 – 0:48:05] Erik: I also like that my old marmot is long enough to cover down to the bathing suit area.
[0:48:06 – 0:48:08] Erik: My, the bathing suit area.
[0:48:08 – 0:48:08] Erik: Yeah.
[0:48:11 – 0:48:12] Adam: There it is.
[0:48:12 – 0:48:13] Adam: That was pretty neutral.
[0:48:13 – 0:48:14] Erik: Yeah, neutral.
[0:48:14 – 0:48:15] Erik: I think we still have two innuendos to go.
[0:48:15 – 0:48:16] Adam: Yeah, that didn’t count.
[0:48:16 – 0:48:17] Adam: That was a fake out.
[0:48:17 – 0:48:18] Adam: Fake out.
[0:48:18 – 0:48:21] Erik: Keeps the undies dry and eliminates a need for rain pants.
[0:48:22 – 0:48:23] Erik: Nice, Marmot.
[0:48:24 – 0:48:31] Erik: In the park I wet foot, so this really only leaves a small area of trail pant or leg meat exposed below the jacket.
[0:48:32 – 0:48:32] Erik: What?
[0:48:32 – 0:48:34] Erik: That’s some dark meat there.
[0:48:34 – 0:48:34] Erik: Leg meat.
[0:48:35 – 0:48:38] Erik: Which dries quickly or doesn’t get wet at all if I’m upright.
[0:48:38 – 0:48:47] Erik: My beloved Shelly marmot precip has been used on ski trips, has survived two hurricanes, and three island jungle situations.
[0:48:47 – 0:48:48] Erik: Whoa.
[0:48:49 – 0:48:50] Erik: Island jungle.
[0:48:50 – 0:48:51] Adam: Jungle situation.
[0:48:51 – 0:48:52] Adam: Ha ha.
[0:48:52 – 0:48:55] Erik: So it’s, I’m fine with island and jungle, but.
[0:48:55 – 0:48:56] Adam: Not the situation.
[0:48:57 – 0:48:58] Erik: Not fine, what’s the situation?
[0:48:58 – 0:49:00] Adam: I don’t even want, I do want to know.
[0:49:00 – 0:49:01] Adam: Tell us more.
[0:49:01 – 0:49:04] Erik: Yep, it is the only piece of gear I bring everywhere.
[0:49:05 – 0:49:06] Erik: Sing it from the mountaintop.
[0:49:07 – 0:49:10] Adam: Armpit zippers.
[0:49:10 – 0:49:12] Adam: Zippers all day.
[0:49:13 – 0:49:14] Adam: Nice marmot.
[0:49:16 – 0:49:25] Adam: You know, aquatic mammal in a residential dwelling, that ain’t legal either.
[0:49:25 – 0:49:26] Erik: Is it?
[0:49:26 – 0:49:28] Erik: In some states, that’s probably legal.
[0:49:28 – 0:49:29] Erik: What are you, Park Ranger now?
[0:49:30 – 0:49:33] Adam: Next up on the show, have beer, will paddle.
[0:49:35 – 0:49:36] Adam: 17 boxes of wine.
[0:49:37 – 0:49:38] Adam: Just making things up.
[0:49:38 – 0:49:40] Adam: I break the bank with the raincoat.
[0:49:42 – 0:49:46] Adam: Generally, go with North Face or Patagonia from REI.
[0:49:47 – 0:49:47] Adam: What is it?
[0:49:48 – 0:49:48] Adam: Really expensive.
[0:49:48 – 0:49:52] Erik: Really expensive items or something along those lines.
[0:49:52 – 0:49:53] Adam: Yeah, I think you nailed it.
[0:49:53 – 0:49:57] Adam: I’ll usually get about two years out of it before it starts soaking through.
[0:49:58 – 0:50:00] Adam: I’ve never had much success with retreating it.
[0:50:01 – 0:50:07] Adam: For the bottoms, I generally go with a super lightweight pant that packs away to nothing.
[0:50:08 – 0:50:12] Adam: I can’t remember the brand, but it’s not important because I rarely use them in the summer.
[0:50:13 – 0:50:13] Adam: There you go.
[0:50:14 – 0:50:18] Adam: If I know it’s going to be cold and or rainy, then I’ll bring the Carhartt Rain Bibs.
[0:50:19 – 0:50:20] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:50:20 – 0:50:21] Adam: The old bibs.
[0:50:21 – 0:50:24] Erik: My Rain Bibs are Carhartt brand, not Helly Hansen.
[0:50:24 – 0:50:26] Erik: So I’m a lobster boy, not a crabber.
[0:50:26 – 0:50:27] Erik: Yeah.
[0:50:27 – 0:50:29] Adam: You don’t want to go after those crabs.
[0:50:29 – 0:50:30] Adam: You want to get the old pinchies.
[0:50:32 – 0:50:34] Adam: Those old sand dwellers.
[0:50:35 – 0:50:37] Adam: Big old Alaskan lobsters.
[0:50:38 – 0:50:39] Adam: Oh, boy.
[0:50:39 – 0:50:41] Adam: I don’t think you’d get them in Alaska.
[0:50:41 – 0:50:51] Adam: I’m pretty sure Sig on the Nor’wester would be rolling in his watery grave right now if you were listening to this from the depths of the Aleutian Islands.
[0:50:52 – 0:50:57] Erik: I’m here to, you just come walking down to the docks, down at like whatever, Coal Harbor or whatever.
[0:50:58 – 0:50:59] Erik: I’m here to catch some lobsters.
[0:50:59 – 0:51:01] Adam: This is Kodiak Docks.
[0:51:01 – 0:51:02] Adam: I’m singing.
[0:51:02 – 0:51:04] Erik: I don’t appreciate you telling me there ain’t no lobster.
[0:51:05 – 0:51:06] Erik: I’ll prove you wrong.
[0:51:06 – 0:51:09] Erik: Yeah, your application’s going right in the watery.
[0:51:10 – 0:51:11] Erik: Davey Jones’ locker.
[0:51:11 – 0:51:12] Erik: Yep.
[0:51:13 – 0:51:14] Erik: I don’t even know who Davey Jones is.
[0:51:16 – 0:51:18] Adam: Yeah, that’s a Stu reference there.
[0:51:19 – 0:51:26] Erik: I used to, honestly, as a kid when I used to think, I thought it was a sports guy, and it was his locker.
[0:51:26 – 0:51:27] Erik: I thought he was a folk singer.
[0:51:27 – 0:51:29] Adam: Next up on the show, Kat Budnick.
[0:51:30 – 0:51:35] Adam: I’ve opted to just get really wet and cold in the past, and that worked okay.
[0:51:36 – 0:51:45] Adam: Now I use Gore-Tex shake-dry material jacket and some home-sewn rain pant.
[0:51:46 – 0:51:50] Adam: That keeps me drier and warmer, but they’re definitely heavier to carry together.
[0:51:50 – 0:51:51] Adam: They weigh about…
[0:51:52 – 0:51:55] Adam: 0.05 to 0.1 cast iron skillets.
[0:51:55 – 0:52:00] Adam: Thank you for the conversion rate on the cast iron weights for us.
[0:52:00 – 0:52:03] Adam: Now I can totally understand what you’re saying.
[0:52:04 – 0:52:10] Adam: But, yeah, I’m fine with packing a little extra weight if that’s what you got to do, you know, for the cold, wet season.
[0:52:12 – 0:52:16] Adam: But I like the all-caps use of Gore-Tex.
[0:52:16 – 0:52:17] Adam: Shake dry.
[0:52:18 – 0:52:21] Erik: Also, how many people out there are hand-sewing anything these days?
[0:52:21 – 0:52:22] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:52:22 – 0:52:30] Erik: It’s sort of like that episode we were talking about water filtration where it was like, I handmade my own PVC drip tube.
[0:52:30 – 0:52:31] Erik: The innovation.
[0:52:31 – 0:52:32] Erik: Yeah, I was like, whoa, dang, that’s…
[0:52:36 – 0:52:39] Erik: We didn’t have anybody porging through this time, but we did have a tow-reg drive-through.
[0:52:40 – 0:52:44] Erik: This week’s episode of Tumble Home is brought to you by Volkswagen.
[0:52:44 – 0:52:50] Erik: We’re changing our name in the near future to Volkswagen because we’re going all electric.
[0:52:51 – 0:52:53] Erik: Thanks, Volkswagen, for the sponsorship.
[0:52:53 – 0:52:57] Erik: And they’re going to update their logo to just a lightning bolt.
[0:52:58 – 0:52:59] Adam: Well, that’s nice.
[0:52:59 – 0:53:06] Adam: The Lightning appear to have a stranglehold on the Stanley Cup Finals, taking it to Carey Price.
[0:53:06 – 0:53:08] Adam: And the Habs, are they going to be able to get it together?
[0:53:08 – 0:53:09] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:53:10 – 0:53:10] Erik: Doubt it.
[0:53:10 – 0:53:11] Erik: Probably not.
[0:53:12 – 0:53:16] Erik: But I could see them getting a couple in Montreal.
[0:53:16 – 0:53:18] Erik: I don’t think they’re ever going to win a game in Tampa.
[0:53:18 – 0:53:23] Erik: So if it goes seven, it’s still a lost cause.
[0:53:26 – 0:53:31] Erik: This week’s episode of Tumble Home is also brought to you by a legitimate sponsor.
[0:53:31 – 0:53:31] Erik: Oh.
[0:53:31 – 0:53:33] Erik: Let’s get rid of the second sponsor.
[0:53:33 – 0:53:34] Erik: Rare.
[0:53:34 – 0:53:35] Erik: In the field double sponsor.
[0:53:37 – 0:53:37] Erik: Double.
[0:53:37 – 0:53:38] Erik: Moose heads.
[0:53:39 – 0:53:47] Erik: Just some easy drinking after that spicy Pompeii IPA.
[0:53:48 – 0:53:50] Erik: We’ve got some moose heads.
[0:53:55 – 0:53:57] Erik: Oh boy, that one’s lively.
[0:53:57 – 0:53:59] Adam: That’s a muy picante.
[0:54:04 – 0:54:05] Erik: Wait, who are the moose heads from?
[0:54:05 – 0:54:08] Erik: The moose heads are from Josh and Kalen.
[0:54:10 – 0:54:11] Erik: I think they’re from Grand Marais, even.
[0:54:12 – 0:54:13] Erik: Local sponsors.
[0:54:15 – 0:54:16] Adam: All hot diggity damn.
[0:54:16 – 0:54:18] Adam: Hot diggity dang.
[0:54:19 – 0:54:20] Adam: You guys want to come hang out at the beach?
[0:54:21 – 0:54:22] Adam: We’ll be out here all night.
[0:54:23 – 0:54:23] Adam: Tumble home.
[0:54:24 – 0:54:25] Adam: After dark.
[0:54:26 – 0:54:30] Erik: We’re reading until the light goes down and currently…
[0:54:31 – 0:54:35] Erik: There is still enough light to keep reading, so we are going to continue doing just that.
[0:54:37 – 0:54:43] Adam: Oh, it’s actually, according to the Ron Cher, we’re officially at sunset now, 9.08.
[0:54:43 – 0:54:46] Erik: A pinkish haze has settled in across the landscape.
[0:54:48 – 0:54:52] Erik: Kayakers are still screwing around in kayaks.
[0:54:53 – 0:54:56] Erik: The duck that is maybe just…
[0:54:57 – 0:55:20] Erik: old refuse is still floating in the same exact spot go be in my pants maybe somebody marked a fishing spot out there that could be kind of right at the edge of the beach i feel like i could still stand out there but eight rods off this beach you could definitely stand but uh there might be some splake out there splake marking splake marker goby
[0:55:21 – 0:55:25] Erik: On my first trip to the Northwoods, I was 13 on a Boy Scout trip.
[0:55:26 – 0:55:28] Erik: My rain gear was an Army surplus poncho.
[0:55:29 – 0:55:30] Erik: That well kept the rain off of me.
[0:55:30 – 0:55:36] Erik: My legs got wet when I sat down and it wasn’t practical for paddling or when it got windy.
[0:55:37 – 0:55:43] Erik: Imagine the famous Marilyn Monroe shot, but with OD green light canvas instead of a skirt.
[0:55:44 – 0:55:45] Erik: That’s hot.
[0:55:45 – 0:55:45] Erik: I can imagine it.
[0:55:47 – 0:55:51] Erik: After that, I went to a nylon rain jacket with mesh liner with nylon pants.
[0:55:51 – 0:55:56] Erik: This was somehow worse than the poncho as I don’t think it stopped any rain from getting me wet.
[0:55:57 – 0:56:02] Erik: It soaked through almost instantly and I got soaked in sweat when it wasn’t raining.
[0:56:02 – 0:56:03] Erik: After that…
[0:56:04 – 0:56:07] Erik: I went and got a packable Gore-Tex rain suit from Cabela’s.
[0:56:08 – 0:56:11] Erik: Rainy river, packable rain suit that I still use to this day.
[0:56:12 – 0:56:16] Erik: It’s been through three day soakers to light drizzle on a hot day and everything in between.
[0:56:17 – 0:56:18] Erik: I’ve retreated it.
[0:56:19 – 0:56:20] Erik: Oh, sorry.
[0:56:20 – 0:56:26] Erik: I’ve retreated it with waterproofing spray before every trip since it’s made in voyage and it still holds up well.
[0:56:27 – 0:56:31] Erik: I still sweat in it, but not as much and only when it’s really hot out.
[0:56:31 – 0:56:32] Adam: I underestimated the amount of
[0:56:33 – 0:56:34] Adam: Sweat talk.
[0:56:35 – 0:56:35] Adam: Sweat.
[0:56:36 – 0:56:37] Adam: After hours episode.
[0:56:39 – 0:56:45] Erik: If that eventually fails, I’ll probably look at what’s available from the top gear companies or maybe even use my hunting rain gear.
[0:56:45 – 0:56:52] Erik: Getting wet sucks and it took spending some money to avoid it in the rain while traveling the wilderness.
[0:56:53 – 0:56:54] Adam: Huzzah, huzzah.
[0:56:57 – 0:57:00] Erik: Yeah, maybe get back into seamsting.
[0:57:00 – 0:57:01] Erik: Seamsting?
[0:57:01 – 0:57:01] Adam: Yeah.
[0:57:02 – 0:57:03] Adam: Sewing your own gear.
[0:57:04 – 0:57:04] Erik: Seamstressing?
[0:57:05 – 0:57:07] Adam: Seam… Seamsting.
[0:57:07 – 0:57:08] Adam: Seamsting.
[0:57:09 – 0:57:10] Adam: You have to sew your own…
[0:57:10 – 0:57:12] Adam: I’m pretty good with a needle and thread.
[0:57:13 – 0:57:19] Adam: I’m like that Daniel Day-Lewis movie where he’s a seamster.
[0:57:20 – 0:57:23] Adam: Oh, the Shadow Quill.
[0:57:23 – 0:57:24] Adam: Shadow Quill.
[0:57:24 – 0:57:25] Erik: That’s what it’s called.
[0:57:25 – 0:57:28] Adam: Yeah, we’re putting that on the list for Tumble Home Cinema Classics.
[0:57:29 – 0:57:30] Adam: Check it out.
[0:57:30 – 0:57:34] Adam: Anybody on the Patreon can go check out our rave review of Aquaman.
[0:57:34 – 0:57:38] Adam: And then next month we’re definitely doing Shadow Quill.
[0:57:38 – 0:57:40] Adam: That’s definitely not the name of it.
[0:57:41 – 0:57:42] Adam: No, we should look up whatever.
[0:57:42 – 0:57:43] Adam: You know what I’m talking about.
[0:57:44 – 0:57:45] Erik: Yeah, vaguely.
[0:57:45 – 0:57:51] Erik: We should search that as a movie title, and whatever turns up, the closest thing to it is the next movie we review.
[0:57:51 – 0:57:52] Adam: You know the why.
[0:57:52 – 0:57:54] Adam: It’s like there will be blood, but for sewing.
[0:57:54 – 0:57:56] Erik: Yeah, it’s the last movie he’s ever been in.
[0:57:57 – 0:57:57] Erik: Oh.
[0:57:57 – 0:57:58] Adam: I didn’t know that.
[0:57:59 – 0:58:00] Erik: Oh, well, now it’s real.
[0:58:00 – 0:58:01] Adam: Oh, for sure.
[0:58:01 – 0:58:03] Adam: He definitely goes camping in this movie.
[0:58:03 – 0:58:04] Adam: We’re going to do it.
[0:58:05 – 0:58:07] Adam: Camping factor is no longer an actual factor.
[0:58:07 – 0:58:09] Adam: It still is a factor, but it’s not the only factor.
[0:58:10 – 0:58:11] Erik: Well, it’s a helpful factor.
[0:58:11 – 0:58:16] Adam: Yeah, well, it helps, but we can pick whatever we want because we’re proud independent podcasters.
[0:58:17 – 0:58:25] Adam: We’re sitting here on a beach in the middle of July just yelling about rain gear out onto the lake, and we can do whatever we want, really.
[0:58:26 – 0:58:27] Adam: The customer isn’t always right.
[0:58:27 – 0:58:28] Adam: We are always right.
[0:58:29 – 0:58:31] Adam: Who’s the customer in this scenario?
[0:58:31 – 0:58:31] Adam: Is it us?
[0:58:32 – 0:58:32] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:58:32 – 0:58:33] Erik: I don’t even know anymore.
[0:58:35 – 0:58:40] Erik: If you read that, I’m going to go over and do a self-review of this campsite bag here.
[0:58:40 – 0:58:43] Adam: What is up with the font on this thing?
[0:58:43 – 0:58:47] Adam: Next up on the show, Kiggity K-Bomb, friend of the show.
[0:58:48 – 0:58:52] Adam: Got another really expensive item reference here, Eric.
[0:58:53 – 0:58:54] Adam: Don’t go away, man.
[0:58:54 – 0:58:55] Adam: This affects us all.
[0:58:56 – 0:58:56] Adam: Okay.
[0:58:58 – 0:59:01] Adam: Next up on the show, Kiggity K-Bomb, coming to you live from the beach on mink.com.
[0:59:03 – 0:59:05] Adam: It’s a beautiful night here on the North Shore.
[0:59:05 – 0:59:16] Adam: I have a pair of REI rain pants that have done the trick for years to keep my legs dry, though they can get excessively warm easily.
[0:59:17 – 0:59:21] Adam: Up top, I use a Frog Togs jacket that works fine.
[0:59:21 – 0:59:22] Adam: Did you hear that?
[0:59:22 – 0:59:24] Adam: It’s a Frog Togs reference.
[0:59:24 – 0:59:27] Adam: That works fine and was really affordable.
[0:59:27 – 0:59:28] Adam: Stylish?
[0:59:28 – 0:59:28] Adam: It is not.
[0:59:31 – 0:59:41] Adam: Even with these, I’m always of the mind that some wetness is inevitable, so cycling in and out of a couple sets of quick-drying interlayers is part of the program.
[0:59:41 – 0:59:41] Erik: There you go.
[0:59:42 – 0:59:45] Adam: It’s not just a one-phase operation rain gear, is it?
[0:59:45 – 0:59:48] Adam: It’s usually everything you’re doing.
[0:59:48 – 0:59:50] Adam: It’s like the universe.
[0:59:50 – 0:59:57] Adam: It’s a series of energy force fields at the molecular particle level all interacting with each other.
[0:59:58 – 1:00:00] Adam: What is wetness anyways?
[1:00:01 – 1:00:02] Adam: Is this an elocution?
[1:00:04 – 1:00:10] Adam: Some would argue that you and the rain are the same.
[1:00:12 – 1:00:13] Adam: Are you really so different than the rain?
[1:00:13 – 1:00:17] Adam: We’re all part of our localized universe here, Eric.
[1:00:17 – 1:00:18] Erik: We’re all stars.
[1:00:18 – 1:00:19] Adam: Aren’t we all?
[1:00:21 – 1:00:33] Adam: Even that canoe you paddle, it’s probably because some star went supernova 20, 100,000 billion years ago, and that’s how you get Kevlar.
[1:00:34 – 1:00:39] Erik: There’s Eric’s elocutions, and then there’s abandoned Adam when Eric’s peeing.
[1:00:39 – 1:00:43] Adam: I can say whatever I want, and Eric doesn’t hit me.
[1:00:45 – 1:00:46] Adam: Violence is not the answer, Eric.
[1:00:47 – 1:00:47] Erik: I’ve never hit you.
[1:00:49 – 1:00:50] Erik: How many more of these we got?
[1:00:52 – 1:00:53] Erik: I don’t know.
[1:00:53 – 1:00:54] Erik: All right, we can finish it tonight.
[1:00:55 – 1:00:56] Erik: It’s not going to be a two-parter.
[1:00:56 – 1:00:56] Erik: Hey.
[1:00:58 – 1:00:59] Erik: Well, it’s not going to be.
[1:00:59 – 1:01:00] Adam: How long do we have for time?
[1:01:00 – 1:01:01] Adam: An hour.
[1:01:01 – 1:01:02] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[1:01:02 – 1:01:03] Erik: Break it up.
[1:01:03 – 1:01:03] Erik: An hour on.
[1:01:03 – 1:01:05] Adam: Well, I’m going to abandon you now.
[1:01:05 – 1:01:05] Adam: Okay.
[1:01:06 – 1:01:06] Adam: You got a long one?
[1:01:07 – 1:01:10] Adam: I got to go check out the fire pit over here.
[1:01:10 – 1:01:17] Erik: It’s been, what, three and a half years, and we’re just slowly devolving into happening to have a field mic as we have conversations.
[1:01:18 – 1:01:19] Adam: I’m going to go pee.
[1:01:19 – 1:01:20] Adam: That’s how we’ve always done it.
[1:01:22 – 1:01:22] Erik: Hopalicious.
[1:01:24 – 1:01:50] Erik: coming in i bring a marmot spire technical shell jacket and a 10×10 tarp i bought off amazon the jacket pulls double duty as my primary winter outer shell and my summer rain jacket it’s light packs up well and the gore-tex keeps me completely dry from the waist up armpit zippers armpit zippers
[1:01:51 – 1:01:54] Erik: Also keep me cool during a summer rain.
[1:01:54 – 1:01:59] Erik: The one singe hole reminds me to not wear it around the fire.
[1:01:59 – 1:02:03] Erik: Ooh, yeah, that’s not been a comment that we’ve heard yet.
[1:02:03 – 1:02:09] Erik: Keep anything that’s made out of old dinosaur bones away from the fire.
[1:02:10 – 1:02:11] Erik: It likes to melt holes.
[1:02:12 – 1:02:14] Erik: Just take a look at any of the camp chairs at Clearwater.
[1:02:17 – 1:02:19] Erik: I don’t bring rain pants and have only regretted it once.
[1:02:19 – 1:02:21] Erik: Thankfully, the rain doesn’t bother me too much.
[1:02:22 – 1:02:24] Erik: Look at the sky and the forecasts.
[1:02:24 – 1:02:25] Erik: You’ll know it’s coming.
[1:02:26 – 1:02:27] Erik: Tarp up and get under it.
[1:02:28 – 1:02:32] Erik: If it rains long and hard enough, the tarp will also serve as a water bottle filler.
[1:02:33 – 1:02:34] Erik: Look at this guy.
[1:02:34 – 1:02:35] Erik: Whoa.
[1:02:35 – 1:02:36] Erik: Look at this guy.
[1:02:36 – 1:02:38] Erik: Look at this guy living off the grid.
[1:02:38 – 1:02:40] Erik: This guy is subscribed.
[1:02:40 – 1:02:41] Adam: Rain barrels over here.
[1:02:42 – 1:02:44] Adam: And that’s why he’s.
[1:02:45 – 1:02:48] Adam: Making the big bucks so you can afford the old Milwaukee for the staff.
[1:02:49 – 1:02:51] Erik: This guy subscribes to Mother Earth News.
[1:02:51 – 1:02:51] Adam: That’s right.
[1:02:54 – 1:03:01] Erik: Route scouter, cheap frog talk jacket, and just my everyday quick dry pants that the legs zipper off.
[1:03:02 – 1:03:05] Erik: I save my money for the expensive Coghlan stuff.
[1:03:06 – 1:03:07] Adam: Yeah, well, that’s smart.
[1:03:07 – 1:03:08] Adam: That’s just smart.
[1:03:08 – 1:03:10] Erik: Yeah, like picnic table covered clips.
[1:03:10 – 1:03:12] Erik: Don’t want those blowing away.
[1:03:14 – 1:03:16] Adam: Zippers, sweat, and frog togs.
[1:03:18 – 1:03:21] Erik: Zippers, sweat, and frog togs.
[1:03:22 – 1:03:31] Adam: That’s the sequel to the Dire Straits song I’m thinking of.
[1:03:31 – 1:03:34] Adam: Lawyers, Guns, and Monies by Warren Zevon.
[1:03:34 – 1:03:36] Adam: Yeah, that’s what I’m thinking of.
[1:03:36 – 1:03:36] Adam: Warren Zevon.
[1:03:37 – 1:03:38] Adam: Never thought we’d be talking about him.
[1:03:39 – 1:03:46] Adam: I never thought I’d be talking about this much frog tugs and zippers and sweat ever on an episode of Tumble Home.
[1:03:47 – 1:03:47] Adam: After dark.
[1:03:48 – 1:03:49] Adam: Next up on the show.
[1:03:49 – 1:03:51] Adam: That was pretty sexy.
[1:03:51 – 1:03:57] Adam: Next up on the show, friend of the show and good-looking man, Scotty Baldwin.
[1:03:58 – 1:04:00] Erik: And good-looking man.
[1:04:00 – 1:04:01] Erik: Wow, first good-looking man.
[1:04:01 – 1:04:02] Adam: You’re darn tootin’.
[1:04:03 – 1:04:06] Adam: He brought me a book on Sasquatches.
[1:04:07 – 1:04:07] Adam: And omens.
[1:04:08 – 1:04:08] Adam: Very handsome.
[1:04:08 – 1:04:10] Adam: They’re going on to the book report.
[1:04:11 – 1:04:14] Adam: We’ll get to those later on this year, I hope.
[1:04:16 – 1:04:22] Adam: Concerning rain gear, I tend to think that, situationally, it is dependent on the amount of and type of rain.
[1:04:22 – 1:04:31] Adam: I remember my Marmot jacket and REI pants being reasonably priced, but for the life of me, I can’t remember the last time I actually took them out of the bag.
[1:04:31 – 1:04:39] Adam: I’m more prone to go BJ Thomas style and let those rain drops keep falling on my head.
[1:04:40 – 1:04:41] Erik: Yes, I love it.
[1:04:41 – 1:04:44] Erik: So musical tonight.
[1:04:44 – 1:04:49] Adam: I think we’ve both been described as the songbirds of our generation, Eric.
[1:04:49 – 1:04:52] Adam: And thank you, Scotty Baldwin, for the comment.
[1:04:55 – 1:04:58] Adam: And Desplat, I think Desplat said that about it.
[1:04:59 – 1:05:01] Erik: At an award acceptance speech?
[1:05:01 – 1:05:03] Adam: At the Grammys, yeah.
[1:05:03 – 1:05:04] Adam: It was at the Grammys.
[1:05:04 – 1:05:06] Adam: Alexander Desplat said it.
[1:05:07 – 1:05:28] Adam: that about us uh anyways thanks for the comments scotty baldwin i agree i just like to get rained on i guess i don’t mind it and yeah i guess you know set up a tarp or whatever get into that if you have to or wear the big hat i’m going on team big hat and tarp at this point although i do have some rain gear i do like uh we’ll get to that maybe at the end of the show for the dessert
[1:05:30 – 1:05:33] Erik: Yeah, the sun has fully gone down.
[1:05:33 – 1:05:33] Erik: It’s getting dark.
[1:05:34 – 1:05:38] Erik: The skeets are getting me through this real thin painting shirt I’m wearing here.
[1:05:39 – 1:05:44] Erik: And we’ve been shouting out, because of the listeners’ responses, the frog togs.
[1:05:44 – 1:05:45] Erik: But there’s another comment here.
[1:05:45 – 1:05:51] Erik: This is probably the second, if not tied for most comments, from GrayPanther8.
[1:05:52 – 1:05:53] Erik: The marmot precip.
[1:05:54 – 1:05:55] Erik: Not even 100% sure what the precip is.
[1:05:55 – 1:05:56] Erik: It’s just a jacket?
[1:05:58 – 1:06:00] Erik: form of a rain jacket, I guess.
[1:06:01 – 1:06:03] Erik: Boundary Waters enthusiasts.
[1:06:03 – 1:06:06] Adam: It’s probably short for precipitation.
[1:06:06 – 1:06:07] Erik: Oh, yeah?
[1:06:07 – 1:06:09] Erik: It’s short for precipitation.
[1:06:09 – 1:06:09] Erik: Yeah.
[1:06:10 – 1:06:11] Erik: Precipitation-ace.
[1:06:12 – 1:06:13] Erik: Precipitation-ace.
[1:06:13 – 1:06:16] Erik: A marmot precip is my go-to for all days moist.
[1:06:17 – 1:06:18] Erik: In the park,
[1:06:18 – 1:06:22] Erik: Temperature and wind drives weather or not, I put it on.
[1:06:22 – 1:06:26] Erik: Suiting up in anything over 75 degrees and I’m soaked from sweating anyway.
[1:06:27 – 1:06:28] Erik: Pants from Farm and Fleet.
[1:06:28 – 1:06:30] Erik: This guy’s not from Minnesota.
[1:06:30 – 1:06:32] Erik: Specials from the workwear department.
[1:06:33 – 1:06:38] Erik: Inexpensive and reliable, but it has to be a complete soaker on a cold day to break them out.
[1:06:40 – 1:06:47] Erik: Yeah, I think the general consensus seems to me like our listeners kind of
[1:06:47 – 1:06:48] Erik: know what they’re doing.
[1:06:48 – 1:06:50] Adam: They sure as heck do.
[1:06:50 – 1:06:53] Adam: I think we maybe heard a call of the champ out there.
[1:06:53 – 1:06:53] Adam: Did you hear that?
[1:06:54 – 1:06:54] Erik: Yeah, did you hear that?
[1:06:54 – 1:06:56] Adam: I thought I heard the champ.
[1:06:57 – 1:06:57] Erik: I’m going to do another one.
[1:06:58 – 1:06:59] Adam: Goes to vet Abby.
[1:07:00 – 1:07:01] Erik: Friend of the show?
[1:07:01 – 1:07:02] Adam: Friend.
[1:07:02 – 1:07:03] Erik: Friend of the show.
[1:07:04 – 1:07:04] Erik: Friend.
[1:07:06 – 1:07:09] Erik: Bottom line is that I don’t want to be stuck under a tarp when the fish are biting.
[1:07:09 – 1:07:10] Adam: Yeah, well, there’s that.
[1:07:11 – 1:07:11] Adam: Oh, oh.
[1:07:13 – 1:07:15] Adam: We got a bird visitor.
[1:07:15 – 1:07:17] Erik: Incoming eagle with a fish?
[1:07:18 – 1:07:19] Adam: He’s got a splake.
[1:07:19 – 1:07:21] Adam: Holy smokes, Gus.
[1:07:22 – 1:07:22] Adam: Did you see that?
[1:07:22 – 1:07:23] Erik: Wow.
[1:07:24 – 1:07:26] Erik: That was maybe even like an osprey or something.
[1:07:26 – 1:07:29] Adam: Maybe an osprey just carrying a splake right over us.
[1:07:29 – 1:07:31] Adam: Came flying all the way down the lake.
[1:07:31 – 1:07:32] Erik: A little too small to be a baldy.
[1:07:33 – 1:07:34] Erik: Ooh, that was exciting.
[1:07:35 – 1:07:35] Erik: Yeah.
[1:07:35 – 1:07:41] Erik: Not every trip is focused on fishing, continues Ghost of Ed Abbey, but I prefer to have the good stuff for when I do.
[1:07:42 – 1:07:52] Erik: I also use this rain gear for a lot of other non-BWCA related activities, including snowshoeing on tight trails after a snowfall when the pines are full of soaking snow.
[1:07:52 – 1:07:55] Erik: I have the name brand stuff, but I didn’t pay full price.
[1:07:55 – 1:07:56] Erik: Oh, look at this guy.
[1:07:56 – 1:07:57] Erik: He’s got a lion.
[1:07:57 – 1:07:58] Erik: Got the discount code.
[1:07:58 – 1:07:59] Erik: Old deals.
[1:08:00 – 1:08:01] Erik: Actually, half or less.
[1:08:03 – 1:08:11] Adam: Use the discount code TumbleHomeAfterDark for 50% off your next gear purchase at the Tumble Home store.
[1:08:11 – 1:08:17] Erik: No, on Arc’teryx, Tumble Home 50% off is the code.
[1:08:18 – 1:08:27] Adam: Yeah, we were just visited by a beautiful osprey now, and now we got some fun guys driving down the road.
[1:08:28 – 1:08:29] Adam: Some fun 4th of July.
[1:08:29 – 1:08:33] Adam: They’re definitely coming over here to lay off some M80s on the beach probably.
[1:08:34 – 1:08:35] Adam: So be warned.
[1:08:35 – 1:08:36] Adam: We may have to pause this episode.
[1:08:38 – 1:08:38] Adam: Good Lord.
[1:08:39 – 1:08:41] Adam: They’re definitely coming over here.
[1:08:41 – 1:08:47] Erik: I want to be out fishing when it’s raining, and I don’t want to be reluctant to go in the shoulder seasons.
[1:08:47 – 1:08:55] Erik: Our mid-June trip didn’t see the rain pants come out because it was warm, but I had the best fishing of the trip in the rain the first afternoon.
[1:08:56 – 1:09:04] Erik: Gore-Tex and all the similar materials are good, but pit zips are the most important feature of a rainzacket.
[1:09:04 – 1:09:10] Erik: Next is the hood adjustment, then the wrist closures, at least for fishing.
[1:09:11 – 1:09:15] Adam: All right, well, if we get murdered by these freaks, you all heard it.
[1:09:18 – 1:09:21] Adam: Oh, my God, they got, like, rims on their four-wheeler.
[1:09:21 – 1:09:22] Adam: We’re going to have to pause.
[1:09:22 – 1:09:32] Erik: Well, we’re pausing, and maybe it could be the potential end of the episode if we get interacted with here because, oh, no, they’re leaving.
[1:09:32 – 1:09:32] Adam: All right.
[1:09:32 – 1:09:33] Adam: They have spinners.
[1:09:35 – 1:09:37] Adam: It’s spinner rims on a four-wheeler.
[1:09:39 – 1:09:46] Adam: Wow, but, I mean, did you hear how cool that guy looked, though, with how loud his boy toy was?
[1:09:47 – 1:09:52] Erik: Sans helmet, couple on a very obnoxious four-wheeler, literally with spinner rims.
[1:09:53 – 1:09:53] Adam: What?
[1:09:53 – 1:09:55] Adam: I think they were topless.
[1:09:55 – 1:09:57] Adam: I think both of them were topless.
[1:09:57 – 1:10:00] Adam: It was disgusting.
[1:10:00 – 1:10:02] Adam: It was disgusting.
[1:10:02 – 1:10:04] Adam: We’re at Canada Bulls.
[1:10:05 – 1:10:10] Adam: You never know what you’re going to get here with a live in the field recording of Tumble Home After Dark.
[1:10:11 – 1:10:13] Adam: But, you know, the show must go on.
[1:10:14 – 1:10:15] Adam: We’re not going to let it.
[1:10:15 – 1:10:16] Adam: They went that way.
[1:10:16 – 1:10:17] Adam: They’re just going to keep going.
[1:10:17 – 1:10:18] Adam: These people are nuts.
[1:10:19 – 1:10:22] Adam: Next up on the show, Canada Bull.
[1:10:23 – 1:10:24] Adam: First time caller?
[1:10:25 – 1:10:26] Adam: Possibly.
[1:10:27 – 1:10:34] Adam: My philosophy on certain items is that I pay more for them and call it an insurance policy against bad weather.
[1:10:35 – 1:10:41] Adam: I have a Merrell waterproof, breathable, lightweight jacket with pit zips.
[1:10:41 – 1:10:42] Erik: Pit zips?
[1:10:43 – 1:10:44] Adam: Adjustable hood and cuffs.
[1:10:45 – 1:10:53] Adam: I wear Mountain Equipment Co-op waterproof, breathable pants with zippers on the calves for easy use with footwear on.
[1:10:53 – 1:10:57] Adam: Always need to have some CA gear in the pack.
[1:10:58 – 1:10:59] Adam: Okay, there we go.
[1:11:01 – 1:11:02] Adam: It appears to be so.
[1:11:02 – 1:11:06] Adam: Why is it only on this one it says reply, share, report?
[1:11:06 – 1:11:07] Adam: This is the Reddit.
[1:11:08 – 1:11:11] Adam: You’re going to break Reddit trying to copy and paste this thing into the paper Reddit.
[1:11:12 – 1:11:16] Adam: Anyways, shout out to paper Reddit.
[1:11:16 – 1:11:18] Adam: Thank you for your comment.
[1:11:18 – 1:11:20] Adam: Canada Bull, welcome.
[1:11:21 – 1:11:24] Adam: Next up on the show, friend of the show, Boats and Hoedags.
[1:11:25 – 1:11:26] Adam: Here we go.
[1:11:26 – 1:11:27] Adam: Let me get a sip.
[1:11:28 – 1:11:30] Adam: Sips to you, boats and hot eggs.
[1:11:31 – 1:11:32] Erik: Sips to you.
[1:11:32 – 1:11:35] Erik: Hopefully that North Star Magic is treating you well.
[1:11:36 – 1:11:37] Adam: Oh, it is.
[1:11:39 – 1:11:48] Adam: I purchased a set of Helly Hansens for a trip to Alaska a couple years ago, and they have kept me the driest of any rain gear I’ve used, mostly Gore-Tex.
[1:11:48 – 1:11:54] Adam: I do a lot of field work, and they are great and also pretty affordable.
[1:11:54 – 1:11:55] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[1:11:56 – 1:11:56] Adam: All right.
[1:11:56 – 1:11:57] Adam: Not bad.
[1:11:57 – 1:11:58] Adam: Not bad at all.
[1:11:59 – 1:12:00] Adam: Love it.
[1:12:00 – 1:12:01] Adam: So the Helly Hansen’s.
[1:12:01 – 1:12:02] Adam: Sounds reasonable.
[1:12:02 – 1:12:03] Adam: They’re coming in.
[1:12:03 – 1:12:03] Adam: Is it reasonable?
[1:12:04 – 1:12:04] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[1:12:05 – 1:12:06] Erik: It’s reasonable.
[1:12:06 – 1:12:06] Adam: It’s reasonable.
[1:12:07 – 1:12:10] Adam: Man, we’re getting some night skeets out here.
[1:12:10 – 1:12:12] Adam: I don’t even have a hood to put up.
[1:12:13 – 1:12:14] Erik: Ah, Big Cheddar 55.
[1:12:14 – 1:12:20] Erik: I went on my first BWCA trip this year, June 7th, Cross Bay to Poplar.
[1:12:20 – 1:12:28] Erik: I took the same crappy poncho that I had with me when my scout troop went to Philmont 20-ish years ago.
[1:12:28 – 1:12:32] Erik: Not sure of the brand, so I will stick with crappy poncho.
[1:12:34 – 1:12:36] Erik: I could have loon bleeped that, but…
[1:12:37 – 1:12:42] Erik: I don’t have the time to go in and edit loon bleeps, so I’m literally just self-loon bleeping.
[1:12:42 – 1:12:43] Adam: You’re fun, guys.
[1:12:44 – 1:12:44] Erik: It rained one day.
[1:12:45 – 1:12:50] Erik: My crappy poncho kept me dry enough while we set up the dining fly and the tarp for my hammock.
[1:12:50 – 1:12:56] Erik: I have a set of Gore-Tex rain gear from my time in the Army, but I thought it was too heavy to take on the trip.
[1:12:57 – 1:13:02] Erik: I have also seen fancy rain suits made from tent material, but those seem pricey.
[1:13:02 – 1:13:05] Erik: And the crappy poncho did its job.
[1:13:06 – 1:13:10] Erik: So I will invest my limited camping budget in other, more lacking gear categories.
[1:13:11 – 1:13:12] Erik: Lastly, oh, here we go.
[1:13:12 – 1:13:13] Erik: This is why we do the show.
[1:13:14 – 1:13:16] Erik: Lastly, I want to thank Adam and Eric for doing this podcast.
[1:13:17 – 1:13:22] Erik: My first trip was a big success, and I believe I owe it success to binge listening to old episodes of this show.
[1:13:22 – 1:13:23] Erik: I owe y’all a beer.
[1:13:24 – 1:13:29] Erik: Sponsorship, because I left the beer I was going to drop off in my fridge at home before heading up.
[1:13:29 – 1:13:34] Erik: I will get you next time when I’m up for my Granite River trip in July.
[1:13:34 – 1:13:35] Adam: Granite River in July?
[1:13:35 – 1:13:36] Adam: We’re in July.
[1:13:36 – 1:13:37] Adam: This is July now.
[1:13:37 – 1:13:39] Adam: Holy pork and shirt balls.
[1:13:42 – 1:13:43] Adam: Thank you for your service.
[1:13:43 – 1:13:44] Erik: Thank you.
[1:13:44 – 1:13:48] Erik: I’m glad we were able to help put together a trip.
[1:13:48 – 1:13:53] Erik: Honestly, the reason we do this show is exactly for that purpose.
[1:13:54 – 1:14:00] Erik: Regardless of how many innuendos and sexy moans, it’s all about getting out in the park.
[1:14:00 – 1:14:02] Adam: And even how many morons end up going out there.
[1:14:02 – 1:14:07] Adam: But for every moron that goes out there, we get like three or four good folk out there in the park.
[1:14:07 – 1:14:07] Adam: And that’s what it’s all about.
[1:14:08 – 1:14:10] Adam: Expanding the reach of the park.
[1:14:10 – 1:14:16] Erik: We’re trying to tip the scales towards tumble homies in the park versus bobbies and rexes.
[1:14:16 – 1:14:17] Adam: That’s right.
[1:14:17 – 1:14:20] Adam: It’s a constant interstellar battle between the forces of nature.
[1:14:22 – 1:14:25] Erik: I’ll read one more big one, and then you can do a couple of mediums in a row.
[1:14:25 – 1:14:26] Adam: All right.
[1:14:26 – 1:14:27] Adam: Well, that sounds fair.
[1:14:28 – 1:14:29] Erik: FZ6Camp.
[1:14:30 – 1:14:35] Erik: Past two seasons, I’ve been trying a poncho that I made for all my outdoor adventuring.
[1:14:36 – 1:14:37] Adam: Phantom Quill.
[1:14:37 – 1:14:39] Adam: I think it’s called Phantom Quill.
[1:14:39 – 1:14:40] Adam: What did you call it originally?
[1:14:40 – 1:14:41] Adam: I don’t even remember.
[1:14:41 – 1:14:43] Erik: I can’t even remember either.
[1:14:44 – 1:14:44] Erik: Jeez.
[1:14:45 – 1:14:47] Adam: Gotta stitch this thing together.
[1:14:48 – 1:14:48] Erik: Pros.
[1:14:49 – 1:14:52] Erik: Daniel Day-Lewis making his own Boundary Waters Camp rain suit.
[1:14:52 – 1:14:53] Adam: Yeah, exactly.
[1:14:53 – 1:14:54] Adam: He knows how to put a patch on.
[1:14:55 – 1:14:59] Erik: More space between the material and my body allows for more airflow.
[1:14:59 – 1:15:05] Erik: I find I sweat less while wearing the poncho than my old 2.5 layer raincoat.
[1:15:05 – 1:15:14] Erik: It feels more breathable despite it being completely impenetrable to vapor, which leads me to pro number two, completely waterproof material.
[1:15:15 – 1:15:19] Erik: I don’t have to worry about soaking through with many breathable material rain shells.
[1:15:20 – 1:15:22] Erik: No need to retreat or use fancy soaps to wash it.
[1:15:23 – 1:15:27] Erik: My body stays much drier overall, no matter how long or heavy it is raining.
[1:15:27 – 1:15:33] Erik: Covers my knees to keep my legs dry while seated or kneeling in the canoe without needing rain pants.
[1:15:34 – 1:15:36] Erik: And it also doubles as a tarp or ground sheet.
[1:15:36 – 1:15:38] Erik: What kind of a material is this?
[1:15:38 – 1:15:40] Erik: FZ6 Camp.
[1:15:41 – 1:15:42] Erik: Cons.
[1:15:42 – 1:15:49] Erik: Catches more wind than a coat, even when the waistband is cinched up to control the excess material.
[1:15:49 – 1:15:58] Erik: Besides potentially creating a sail while paddling, it can also be a nuisance when hiking, an exposed trail, or trying to get things done around a windy camp.
[1:15:59 – 1:16:05] Erik: Forearms are exposed during paddle strokes, which allows them to get wet, and it’s not as warm as an outer layer shell.
[1:16:06 – 1:16:10] Erik: It will still block wind, but I find coats to be warmer and more manageable.
[1:16:11 – 1:16:14] Erik: Yeah, I want to know what that material, the homemade jacket, was made out of.
[1:16:14 – 1:16:15] Erik: You can use it as a tarp.
[1:16:16 – 1:16:16] Erik: That’s the way to do it.
[1:16:17 – 1:16:21] Erik: This is like one of those flying suits, like the human flying squirrel.
[1:16:21 – 1:16:22] Erik: Oh, yeah, like the Red Bull.
[1:16:23 – 1:16:26] Erik: I almost died for 15 minutes straight coming down the Alps.
[1:16:26 – 1:16:26] Adam: Yeah.
[1:16:27 – 1:16:30] Adam: Strap a flare to my ankle.
[1:16:30 – 1:16:33] Adam: We’re jumping off the top of Alpe d’Huez.
[1:16:33 – 1:16:35] Adam: Tour de France fans out there.
[1:16:36 – 1:16:38] Adam: Is Padachar going to repeat?
[1:16:39 – 1:16:41] Adam: They’re going into the Alps tomorrow, Eric.
[1:16:41 – 1:16:42] Adam: What about the woman on the sign?
[1:16:42 – 1:16:43] Adam: That’s the whole meme, isn’t it?
[1:16:43 – 1:16:44] Adam: We’re trying a lot.
[1:16:44 – 1:16:45] Adam: We’re not talking about it.
[1:16:45 – 1:16:46] Adam: That was so four days ago.
[1:16:47 – 1:16:49] Adam: She basically ruined the whole race, though.
[1:16:50 – 1:16:51] Adam: I can’t remember what the sign said.
[1:16:52 – 1:16:57] Adam: I think it just said, like, am I on the telly?
[1:16:58 – 1:17:02] Adam: Next up on the show, sourdough discard.
[1:17:03 – 1:17:06] Adam: Better rather than best quality.
[1:17:07 – 1:17:11] Adam: Because I don’t want to buy something new every year, nor do I want to go overboard.
[1:17:11 – 1:17:13] Adam: We’re going mid-grades here.
[1:17:16 – 1:17:25] Adam: Invested in a Patagonia Torrent Shell jacket for this June’s trip, and thankfully didn’t really need it until the final paddle into Clearwater on Friday.
[1:17:26 – 1:17:30] Adam: Warm enough to not worry about rain pants, but had them along just in case.
[1:17:30 – 1:17:36] Adam: I’m an advocate for gear that spans seasons, and will be cross-country skiing in my new jacket next winter.
[1:17:37 – 1:17:38] Adam: Oh, Eric.
[1:17:39 – 1:17:39] Adam: Oh, Eric, yes.
[1:17:40 – 1:17:41] Adam: It has pit zippers.
[1:17:42 – 1:17:43] Adam: Toot-toot, woot-woot.
[1:17:43 – 1:17:45] Adam: Wait, is it really a toot-toot?
[1:17:46 – 1:17:47] Adam: It was included.
[1:17:47 – 1:17:48] Adam: No, I’m sorry.
[1:17:48 – 1:17:50] Adam: I completely botched that.
[1:17:50 – 1:17:52] Adam: Three, two, one.
[1:17:54 – 1:17:55] Adam: It has pit zippers.
[1:17:56 – 1:17:56] Adam: Two.
[1:17:57 – 1:17:57] Adam: Woot woot.
[1:17:59 – 1:18:00] Adam: Nailed it.
[1:18:00 – 1:18:01] Adam: Woot woot.
[1:18:01 – 1:18:02] Adam: Well, I liked it both ways.
[1:18:03 – 1:18:09] Adam: But I like the use of the, like, people are buying jackets to use both for rain gear, but also as, like, a shell in the winter.
[1:18:10 – 1:18:10] Adam: I do the same thing.
[1:18:11 – 1:18:16] Adam: My, like, main rain jacket I use is also mainly used as, like, a wind layer.
[1:18:16 – 1:18:18] Adam: Like, you know, it’s a wind shell.
[1:18:18 – 1:18:20] Adam: I don’t really use it if it’s raining.
[1:18:20 – 1:18:23] Adam: I use it if it’s raining, sure, sometimes.
[1:18:23 – 1:18:26] Adam: But if it’s, like, a windy day of paddling, I’ll wear that, too, because it’s good for that.
[1:18:27 – 1:18:27] Erik: Yeah.
[1:18:28 – 1:18:30] Adam: Under the dilden, always.
[1:18:30 – 1:18:32] Erik: Pit zips.
[1:18:32 – 1:18:35] Adam: That might be a front runner for an episode title as well.
[1:18:35 – 1:18:35] Adam: Pit zips.
[1:18:36 – 1:18:37] Adam: Next up on the show.
[1:18:44 – 1:18:49] Adam: I use an $80 REI brand Gore-Tex jacket, and it gets worn all year round.
[1:18:50 – 1:18:50] Adam: There you go.
[1:18:51 – 1:18:55] Adam: With the right layers, it is great for winter, chilly windy days, and snowboarding.
[1:18:55 – 1:18:59] Adam: The only time I hate wearing it is when it’s muggy.
[1:19:00 – 1:19:06] Adam: When you’re wearing a t-shirt with sweaty skin, then the jacket just sticks to your arms and is not very comfortable.
[1:19:07 – 1:19:07] Adam: Strategy!
[1:19:08 – 1:19:13] Adam: I always keep my jacket and my cheap North Face pants on top of my pack at all times.
[1:19:13 – 1:19:15] Adam: Easy to pull out when it rains out of nowhere.
[1:19:16 – 1:19:22] Adam: I also keep my tarp accessible with my rope bag to quickly set up camp when needed.
[1:19:22 – 1:19:25] Adam: It’s the only thing you need when you get into camp is get that thing set up.
[1:19:25 – 1:19:25] Adam: Thank you.
[1:19:26 – 1:19:29] Erik: Smooth operator.
[1:19:31 – 1:19:32] Adam: It’s the last page.
[1:19:32 – 1:19:36] Erik: It’s the last page of printed Reddit.
[1:19:37 – 1:19:40] Erik: And it’s almost dark, so… You can barely read this anymore.
[1:19:40 – 1:19:41] Adam: It’s that…
[1:19:42 – 1:19:43] Adam: That hazy out here.
[1:19:43 – 1:19:48] Erik: Did your parents ever tell you back in the day when you’d be, like, reading in the back of the car or whatever, like, I’m going to ruin your eyes.
[1:19:48 – 1:19:50] Erik: I’m going to hurt your eyes reading in the dark.
[1:19:50 – 1:19:51] Erik: Like, we’re going to hurt our eyes.
[1:19:51 – 1:19:54] Erik: I’m getting really close to the paper here.
[1:19:54 – 1:19:55] Erik: Next up on the show.
[1:19:55 – 1:19:57] Erik: I’ll turn the microphone light towards it.
[1:19:57 – 1:19:58] Erik: There you go.
[1:19:58 – 1:20:01] Adam: Eagle 98MN, friend of the show.
[1:20:01 – 1:20:05] Adam: Most of my trips are built around the idea that we need to keep moving each day.
[1:20:05 – 1:20:10] Adam: So we are traveling in any weather short of thunder, lightning, or high winds.
[1:20:11 – 1:20:13] Adam: As a result, I have a good quality rain gear.
[1:20:14 – 1:20:23] Adam: There are definitely way more expensive options, but my REI pants and outdoor research coat do the trick, and I’m happy to have them.
[1:20:24 – 1:20:27] Adam: Plus, they double as an extra layering option for warmth.
[1:20:28 – 1:20:33] Adam: On my fall trips, if the temps really drop, holy smokes, these bugs are going to come out.
[1:20:33 – 1:20:35] Erik: Holy smokes, it’s dark and the bugs are out.
[1:20:35 – 1:20:36] Erik: Let’s rip through them here.
[1:20:37 – 1:20:39] Erik: E-Tuller.
[1:20:39 – 1:20:44] Erik: Sorry we’re giving you short shrift here, guys, but I’m getting shredded.
[1:20:45 – 1:20:50] Erik: Usually go in July, so warmth is not as big of an issue, so I usually take…
[1:20:51 – 1:20:51] Erik: Frog Talks.
[1:20:52 – 1:20:52] Erik: No.
[1:20:52 – 1:20:55] Erik: We’ll count them up and do the math and I’ll put it in the show notes.
[1:20:55 – 1:20:56] Erik: Frog Talks.
[1:20:56 – 1:20:57] Erik: I probably won’t.
[1:20:57 – 1:20:59] Erik: But I think Frog Talks has been mentioned the most.
[1:21:00 – 1:21:01] Erik: It is a very wet week.
[1:21:02 – 1:21:02] Erik: Sorry.
[1:21:02 – 1:21:05] Erik: If it is a very wet week, they may end up more duct tape than fabric.
[1:21:06 – 1:21:06] Adam: What?
[1:21:06 – 1:21:09] Adam: That defeats the purpose of the Frog Talks.
[1:21:09 – 1:21:10] Erik: You’re going to get too sweaty.
[1:21:11 – 1:21:15] Erik: Then, yeah, but at least they keep you dry-ish.
[1:21:16 – 1:21:16] Erik: Okay.
[1:21:16 – 1:21:17] Erik: Really.
[1:21:17 – 1:21:20] Erik: I think this guy writes copy for Frog Talk.
[1:21:21 – 1:21:25] Erik: Last up on the show before all of our blood is sucked out of our bodies.
[1:21:26 – 1:21:27] Erik: We’re live in the field.
[1:21:28 – 1:21:29] Erik: For you.
[1:21:29 – 1:21:30] Erik: Just for you.
[1:21:30 – 1:21:33] Erik: We’re putting up with this pain for you.
[1:21:33 – 1:21:33] Erik: Matt.
[1:21:33 – 1:21:36] Adam: We brought you this fine content this week.
[1:21:37 – 1:21:38] Erik: You brought us this content.
[1:21:38 – 1:21:39] Adam: Thank you.
[1:21:39 – 1:21:43] Erik: We sat around reading enough of old permit papers getting eaten.
[1:21:44 – 1:21:45] Erik: That’s how the magic happens.
[1:21:45 – 1:21:46] Erik: Thanks, Barb.
[1:21:46 – 1:21:47] Erik: Thanks, Bird Doggin’ It.
[1:21:48 – 1:21:49] Erik: Thanks, Josh.
[1:21:49 – 1:21:50] Erik: Thanks, Kalen.
[1:21:50 – 1:21:51] Erik: Thanks, patrons.
[1:21:52 – 1:21:52] Adam: Thank you, Mink Lake.
[1:21:52 – 1:21:55] Adam: And also thank you to the Spinner Rims gang.
[1:21:55 – 1:21:57] Erik: Stop by for a little visit.
[1:21:57 – 1:22:00] Erik: We’re going to do whatever the Dirty Quill or whatever that movie is.
[1:22:00 – 1:22:02] Adam: Yeah, it’s Phantom Quill.
[1:22:02 – 1:22:02] Adam: Oh, okay.
[1:22:02 – 1:22:04] Adam: With Daniel Day-Lewis.
[1:22:04 – 1:22:06] Erik: We’re going to do that this month.
[1:22:06 – 1:22:10] Erik: He’s building a Gore-Tex rain suit for his love of his life.
[1:22:10 – 1:22:11] Erik: I know.
[1:22:11 – 1:22:12] Erik: Perfect boundary water’s rain suit.
[1:22:13 – 1:22:22] Adam: Also, it’s like a Dorian Gray scenario where if he doesn’t finish the rain suit, then all the youth will be drained from his body like a reverse vampire.
[1:22:22 – 1:22:23] Adam: I think that’s what Dorian Gray was about.
[1:22:24 – 1:22:25] Adam: Anybody out there read Dorian Gray?
[1:22:26 – 1:22:27] Adam: I’m pretty sure that’s what it’s about.
[1:22:28 – 1:22:30] Erik: That’s what the movie’s based on, for sure.
[1:22:30 – 1:22:31] Adam: But it’s on Rain Gear.
[1:22:31 – 1:22:34] Erik: Well, thanks for listening.
[1:22:34 – 1:22:35] Erik: Thanks for sponsoring us.
[1:22:35 – 1:22:37] Erik: Especially thanks for responding.
[1:22:37 – 1:22:40] Erik: We’re going to do a happy paddling, a Paisley, a Dieri.
[1:22:41 – 1:22:45] Erik: Every life is a miracle, and your days are numbered.
[1:22:45 – 1:22:48] Erik: Your days are definitely numbered.
[1:22:48 – 1:22:53] Erik: We’re going to end with a response, unless you have anything else.
[1:22:53 – 1:22:58] Adam: Well, I would just say that water and your bodies are all the same thing.
[1:22:59 – 1:23:07] Adam: And really, this whole idea that your body is 99.9% water, that’s a rock fact.
[1:23:07 – 1:23:14] Adam: And I like that there are occasions where you do want to try and stay as dry as you can.
[1:23:15 – 1:23:17] Adam: And that’s what makes this a fun conversation.
[1:23:17 – 1:23:18] Adam: Like, what’s the best way to stay dry?
[1:23:19 – 1:23:27] Adam: But I think, you know, really, the best approach would just be to get a big hat and just embrace that you are water.
[1:23:27 – 1:23:28] Adam: The water is the universe.
[1:23:29 – 1:23:32] Adam: The water itself is the same as you are.
[1:23:32 – 1:23:36] Adam: The idea that getting wet is even a thing is silly.
[1:23:36 – 1:23:43] Adam: When the water hits your skin, that’s just different force fields of nature at the particle level interacting.
[1:23:43 – 1:23:45] Adam: And time is illusion.
[1:23:45 – 1:23:46] Adam: But that’s all I have to say.
[1:23:46 – 1:23:48] Adam: I mean, that’s all things you already knew.
[1:23:49 – 1:23:55] Erik: Well, I mean, I think if it was a different world and we could just run around naked, getting wet probably wouldn’t really matter.
[1:23:55 – 1:23:58] Erik: It’s the fact that you have to just then be in wet clothes that sucks.
[1:23:58 – 1:24:01] Adam: Yeah, I’m fine being wet, but I’m not fine being cold.
[1:24:01 – 1:24:02] Erik: No, exactly.
[1:24:02 – 1:24:04] Adam: That is not an illusion.
[1:24:04 – 1:24:04] Adam: That’s real.
[1:24:04 – 1:24:10] Erik: No, and like the famous musician Moby once told us, we are all made of stars.
[1:24:11 – 1:24:11] Adam: Absolutely.
[1:24:12 – 1:24:12] Erik: We’re going to finish.
[1:24:13 – 1:24:13] Erik: Matt.
[1:24:13 – 1:24:14] Erik: So wise.
[1:24:14 – 1:24:16] Erik: In the hat, 66.
[1:24:16 – 1:24:17] Erik: Big hat.
[1:24:17 – 1:24:20] Erik: I once, Matt, in the big hat, 66.
[1:24:21 – 1:24:21] Adam: Big hat.
[1:24:21 – 1:24:26] Erik: I once spent way too much money on an outdoor research rain jacket.
[1:24:26 – 1:24:29] Erik: It was a really nice rain jacket, but the zipper went bad on it.
[1:24:30 – 1:24:34] Erik: Ever since, I’ve been using frog togs.
[1:24:39 – 1:24:39] UNKNOWN: Bye.
[1:25:32 – 1:25:34] UNKNOWN: Thank you.
[1:26:21 – 1:26:22] UNKNOWN: Thank you.

