Episode Transcript
[0:00:01 – 0:00:02] Erik: Oh no.
[0:00:03 – 0:00:05] Erik: You didn’t bring the whistle, did you?
[0:00:10 – 0:00:11] Erik: Don’t need it.
[0:00:11 – 0:00:11] Erik: Don’t need it.
[0:00:11 – 0:00:17] Adam: We got the perfect… God gifted us with these perfectly… We got our own whistles.
[0:00:17 – 0:00:19] Adam: Whistle throats.
[0:00:19 – 0:00:22] Erik: I heard somebody suggest that maybe our train whistle is dry.
[0:00:23 – 0:00:24] Erik: And that’s why it sounds bad.
[0:00:24 – 0:00:26] Adam: Eric, my whistle, it’s always wet.
[0:00:27 – 0:00:30] Erik: So the train whistle is currently soaking.
[0:00:31 – 0:00:33] Adam: Yeah, we got her soaking in a bucket of vinegar.
[0:00:34 – 0:00:35] Adam: Yes, vinegar.
[0:00:36 – 0:00:38] Erik: That’s where you soak your train whistles.
[0:00:38 – 0:00:43] Erik: We are headed to all aboard Cross Bay Lake.
[0:00:47 – 0:00:48] Adam: Cross River.
[0:00:49 – 0:00:50] Erik: Cross Bay Lake.
[0:00:50 – 0:00:53] Erik: Cross Bay Lake is the official name of the entry point.
[0:00:53 – 0:00:55] Erik: But yes, you do put in on the cross river.
[0:00:55 – 0:00:56] Erik: It’s a fun river entry.
[0:00:57 – 0:00:58] Erik: It is a fun river entry.
[0:00:58 – 0:01:00] Erik: You get some hot river action right away.
[0:01:02 – 0:01:06] Erik: How many permits a day do you think are going up the Cross River?
[0:01:08 – 0:01:08] Erik: Three?
[0:01:08 – 0:01:09] Erik: Nailed it.
[0:01:09 – 0:01:09] Erik: Three.
[0:01:09 – 0:01:10] Adam: Yeah, that’s three.
[0:01:10 – 0:01:11] Erik: Three a day.
[0:01:11 – 0:01:12] Erik: Entry point 50.
[0:01:13 – 0:01:16] Erik: Again, obsolete numbering system, but we’re keeping it alive.
[0:01:18 – 0:01:19] Erik: Yeah, Cross Bay Lake.
[0:01:19 – 0:01:22] Erik: It’s up the Gunflint Trail.
[0:01:22 – 0:01:23] Adam: They’ll come back around to the numbers.
[0:01:24 – 0:01:24] Adam: Yeah, they will.
[0:01:24 – 0:01:25] Adam: We’re going to stick with it.
[0:01:25 – 0:01:26] Adam: They’ll come back to us.
[0:01:27 – 0:01:27] Erik: Have you heard of this?
[0:01:27 – 0:01:28] Erik: Have you seen this?
[0:01:28 – 0:01:30] Erik: Gunflint Trail?
[0:01:30 – 0:01:35] Erik: Yeah, it’s just before you get to Round Lake down to Round Lake Road.
[0:01:36 – 0:01:38] Erik: We were just talking about Brant Lake a couple of weeks ago.
[0:01:39 – 0:01:41] Adam: It’s one of the prettier roads out there.
[0:01:42 – 0:01:43] Erik: Oh, for sure.
[0:01:43 – 0:01:46] Erik: You come around that first corner and you get that cross bay cascading down.
[0:01:47 – 0:01:50] Adam: Yeah, I think it’s got to be an old railroad grade.
[0:01:51 – 0:01:51] Adam: Sparkling.
[0:01:51 – 0:01:52] Adam: So beautifully.
[0:01:52 – 0:01:54] Erik: Yeah, you get that old beaver dam there.
[0:01:54 – 0:02:01] Erik: That’s a nice, yeah, it’s a nice road introduction to what you have in store.
[0:02:03 – 0:02:12] Erik: Because the majority of your first two miles until you get to Ham Lake is essentially going upstream.
[0:02:13 – 0:02:19] Erik: Pretty straightforward, but definitely some solid moving water.
[0:02:21 – 0:02:32] Erik: Getting actually out onto Ham Lake and then off of Ham Lake into Cross Bay Lake where then you will finally actually enter the Boundary Waters.
[0:02:34 – 0:02:36] Erik: So while there are, what, four?
[0:02:37 – 0:02:41] Erik: Yes, four campsites out on Ham Lake, they are not technically in the boundary waters.
[0:02:41 – 0:02:46] Erik: So you’re not legally obligated to wear clothing in them.
[0:02:46 – 0:03:07] Erik: yeah exactly um what is the uh some of your first thoughts when it comes to cross bay lake i know this is an entry point that i always think that you’ve been to more than you have but you’ve made the uh the connoisseurs entrance via um i’m a sniper yeah i’m a snape i’m a sniper boy
[0:03:07 – 0:03:10] Erik: Missing Link and then cutting down into Snipe.
[0:03:10 – 0:03:12] Adam: I don’t believe in Cross Bay Lake, actually.
[0:03:12 – 0:03:13] Adam: You just don’t believe in it?
[0:03:13 – 0:03:14] Adam: I don’t believe in it.
[0:03:14 – 0:03:15] Adam: I go for Snipe.
[0:03:16 – 0:03:16] Adam: It’s superior.
[0:03:17 – 0:03:19] Adam: I do believe in Ham Lake, though.
[0:03:22 – 0:03:35] Erik: Yeah, there’s a couple of nice sites out on Ham, but a full entrance in on Cross Bay will allow you quite a bit of opportunities for different routes.
[0:03:36 – 0:03:47] Erik: I think it’s a, I would say a moderately to above moderately popular entry point for
[0:03:47 – 0:03:51] Erik: Uh, based on, I don’t know, this is a total side tangent.
[0:03:52 – 0:03:55] Erik: There’s, there’s a potential and I don’t know if it’s necessarily.
[0:03:57 – 0:04:09] Erik: I can’t say that it is, but it could very well be that we have entirely blown up Clearwater Lake as an entry point because there are literally no permits for that lake.
[0:04:10 – 0:04:11] Erik: We’ve got to stop talking about it.
[0:04:11 – 0:04:13] Erik: The whole summer, they’re all gone.
[0:04:13 – 0:04:14] Erik: They’re all gone already.
[0:04:15 – 0:04:16] Erik: For the whole summer?
[0:04:16 – 0:04:16] Erik: Yeah.
[0:04:17 – 0:04:17] Erik: It’s March 11th.
[0:04:18 – 0:04:19] Erik: There are no Clearwater permits left.
[0:04:20 – 0:04:23] Adam: Let’s just pretend we reside on Lake One.
[0:04:25 – 0:04:25] Erik: Yeah.
[0:04:26 – 0:04:27] Erik: Well, Lake One doesn’t have any issues.
[0:04:27 – 0:04:30] Erik: We should say we’re Bog Lake Outfitters.
[0:04:30 – 0:04:31] Adam: Bog Lake Outfitters.
[0:04:31 – 0:04:34] Adam: They got beautiful palisades at the Bog Lake.
[0:04:34 – 0:04:36] Erik: Get your Bog Lake permits ASAP.
[0:04:36 – 0:04:37] Erik: You don’t want to miss out on those.
[0:04:37 – 0:04:39] Erik: They’re hot to trot.
[0:04:39 – 0:04:41] Erik: You miss out if you wait any longer.
[0:04:41 – 0:04:42] Erik: Get them now.
[0:04:42 – 0:04:44] Erik: That’s where I first paddled with my grandfather.
[0:04:45 – 0:04:51] Erik: There’s a ton of permits out there still for this summer, but there are a couple where it’s just zeros across the board.
[0:04:51 – 0:04:54] Adam: What’s the little lake in between the river and Ham Lake?
[0:04:54 – 0:04:57] Adam: Is it like a ham steak?
[0:04:57 – 0:04:58] Erik: I don’t think that has a name.
[0:05:00 – 0:05:01] Erik: Between Ham Lake and Cross Bay Lake?
[0:05:01 – 0:05:01] Adam: Yeah.
[0:05:02 – 0:05:04] Adam: I think that whole river section there is just… Just the cross river.
[0:05:05 – 0:05:05] Adam: Mm-hmm.
[0:05:06 – 0:05:07] Erik: Yeah.
[0:05:07 – 0:05:18] Erik: So, yeah, you put in basically on the river, and if you go left off of the little earthen dock, you will go down the cross river, which is not advisable.
[0:05:19 – 0:05:19] Erik: You don’t want to go that way.
[0:05:19 – 0:05:22] Adam: I’ve heard of people trying to tube that, and it’s not recommended.
[0:05:22 – 0:05:26] Erik: You gotta have the perfect, there’s certain places you can put in to do that.
[0:05:27 – 0:05:32] Erik: Um, don’t put in at the cross Bay public access with a tube and expect to survive.
[0:05:33 – 0:05:35] Adam: Um, yeah, you’ll die.
[0:05:35 – 0:05:35] Erik: Yeah.
[0:05:36 – 0:05:43] Erik: Uh, but then, yeah, so you will want to head to the right slash South more or less going upstream.
[0:05:44 – 0:05:44] Erik: Um,
[0:05:44 – 0:05:46] Erik: Pretty easy to see where the portage landings are.
[0:05:47 – 0:05:53] Erik: Really, you end up just kind of, all right, well, here’s a bunch of rocks and moving water, a light rapids here.
[0:05:53 – 0:05:56] Erik: I can’t move any more upstream.
[0:05:56 – 0:05:59] Erik: So we’re going to disembark and do a little portage.
[0:05:59 – 0:06:03] Erik: There’s not really too much insane climbing, even though you are going upstream.
[0:06:04 – 0:06:11] Erik: To a certain extent, you have to essentially get to Cross Bay Lake before any decisions in terms of travel direction can be made.
[0:06:13 – 0:06:26] Erik: Um, the portage off of ham into cross Bay Lake is notoriously difficult to find because up to that point you have essentially paddled right up to where the moving water is.
[0:06:27 – 0:06:31] Erik: And then there’s the portage landing is right next to that moving water.
[0:06:32 – 0:06:38] Erik: But the Ham Lake in DeCross Bay portage is actually well to the west of where the river comes in.
[0:06:39 – 0:06:41] Erik: It’s actually just like right on the side of the shore.
[0:06:41 – 0:06:43] Erik: There’s like no moving water anywhere near it.
[0:06:44 – 0:06:47] Erik: Um, so start early when you’re looking for that.
[0:06:47 – 0:06:49] Erik: It’s really, it’s very apparent when you see it.
[0:06:49 – 0:06:54] Erik: It’s like, I think it’s got like some four by fours even built into the side of the hill.
[0:06:55 – 0:06:55] Erik: Um,
[0:06:57 – 0:06:58] Erik: But yeah, it’s pretty easy to get in.
[0:06:59 – 0:07:03] Erik: And then from there, I still think most people are going to continue heading south.
[0:07:03 – 0:07:14] Erik: I would say the two predominant routes based off of this entry point are going to be, one, the Frost River, and B…
[0:07:15 – 0:07:21] Erik: Cross Bay in some way, shape, or form back to the Poplar Lake area.
[0:07:22 – 0:07:26] Erik: That’s a popular route that we recommend on the Clearwater Outfitters.
[0:07:27 – 0:07:27] Erik: Have you heard of them?
[0:07:28 – 0:07:29] Adam: They’re on Clearwater Lake.
[0:07:29 – 0:07:31] Adam: Nobody ever gets Clearwater permits.
[0:07:31 – 0:07:33] Adam: Bog Lake Outfitters.
[0:07:33 – 0:07:35] Adam: You can take this also to go down to Bog Lake.
[0:07:36 – 0:07:37] Adam: Fun.
[0:07:37 – 0:07:38] Erik: Yeah.
[0:07:39 – 0:07:39] Erik: So, yeah, I would think…
[0:07:41 – 0:07:48] Erik: Most people are at least getting down to Long Island before making any kind of a turn, a decision.
[0:07:49 – 0:07:50] Erik: But you can cut over.
[0:07:50 – 0:07:57] Erik: I would say this is a connoisseur’s decision to make is cutting over off of Cross Bay back over to Snipe.
[0:07:58 – 0:08:03] Erik: And then down in through like Copper and then through the Howl Swamp and into Tuscarora.
[0:08:04 – 0:08:14] Erik: If you really abhor a long portage, that would be the way to avoid the missing link into Tuscarora Portage, I guess.
[0:08:15 – 0:08:15] Erik: Sure.
[0:08:15 – 0:08:16] Erik: A lot of work though.
[0:08:16 – 0:08:19] Adam: Yeah, the Howl Swamp should be seen by all.
[0:08:19 – 0:08:20] Adam: Yeah, it’s a magical swamp.
[0:08:22 – 0:08:39] Adam: full of leeches lousy with leeches it’s a beautiful thing though uh yeah i uh you know and we we did our snipe down into cross bay lake route and ended up in long island our first night on that trip uh so that’s definitely doable
[0:08:41 – 0:08:44] Erik: Yeah, I would think most people are going in through Cross Bay.
[0:08:45 – 0:08:52] Erik: That missing link and then into Snipe and then back out of Snipe, those are not the easiest portages.
[0:08:52 – 0:08:53] Erik: I’ll say that.
[0:08:53 – 0:08:54] Erik: Yeah, they’re a little tricky.
[0:08:55 – 0:09:03] Erik: So if you’re looking to get to Long Island and then from there, your hub, you can spoke off of that lake in a variety of directions.
[0:09:04 – 0:09:07] Erik: The Frost River, you can even head down to Cherokee.
[0:09:07 – 0:09:16] Erik: Or you can start heading back east through Kiskadena or the infamous cave, Ross, Sebaka, Banadad.
[0:09:17 – 0:09:19] Erik: It’s the George Ferret Spur.
[0:09:19 – 0:09:21] Erik: The George Ferret Spur.
[0:09:22 – 0:09:23] Erik: Everybody knows about that one.
[0:09:25 – 0:09:26] Erik: So, yeah, I think it…
[0:09:28 – 0:09:44] Erik: It’s not nearly as wide open as some other entry permits, but it fans out in a much more spreadable, which is what a fan is, I suppose.
[0:09:45 – 0:10:06] Erik: fashion than a lot of them it’s not nearly as opportunistic as like a saw bill like we talked about last week but there’s a lot considering there’s only three per day it’s kind of a sneaky entry point that you can actually run into relatively quiet conditions
[0:10:07 – 0:10:10] Erik: I’ve never experienced a busy Long Island Lake.
[0:10:10 – 0:10:13] Erik: I’ve never really experienced a busy Tuscarora, really.
[0:10:14 – 0:10:24] Erik: Even some of those first few lakes as you’re heading through, I think that the permits are set up pretty well off of Missing Link and Cross Bay Lake.
[0:10:25 – 0:10:25] Erik: Yeah.
[0:10:26 – 0:10:36] Erik: Although the PMA trip that we took where we set ourselves up on snipe, we were, I believe, that lake was full the one night we set up on there.
[0:10:37 – 0:10:39] Erik: For sure, two campsites were occupied.
[0:10:39 – 0:10:44] Erik: And then I think that one in the middle on the south shore was deemed not desirable.
[0:10:44 – 0:10:47] Adam: Yeah, there was like a bachelor party going on there that night.
[0:10:47 – 0:10:47] Erik: Yeah.
[0:10:47 – 0:10:47] Erik: Yeah.
[0:10:49 – 0:10:57] Erik: So yeah, it’s, I would say, right in the middle of the road in regards to popularity and what you can do with it.
[0:10:57 – 0:10:59] Erik: There is a lot to do with it.
[0:10:59 – 0:11:01] Erik: You get to a certain point and the sky’s the limit.
[0:11:03 – 0:11:09] Erik: Maybe some things to consider would be time of year, specifically as it relates to the
[0:11:14 – 0:11:23] Erik: Um, episodes mostly based on the Frost River, one in a, uh, unabridged version and one as an express from last year.
[0:11:24 – 0:11:28] Erik: Um, and that’s something that you want to keep in mind depending on the time of year.
[0:11:30 – 0:11:50] Erik: and just generally like what the water levels are like because just because it’s may doesn’t mean you’re going to have super high water levels unless we get some snow i think we’re going to start this open water season with lower than average for the time of year water levels probably up a little bit from the fall but nowhere near where they should be for may
[0:11:52 – 0:11:53] Erik: So, that’s the thing to keep in mind.
[0:11:54 – 0:12:04] Erik: Not too much between the put-in and the Frost River that you would really need to be concerned in any kind of water level issues.
[0:12:06 – 0:12:09] Erik: The Cross River itself is pretty beefy.
[0:12:09 – 0:12:14] Erik: Like, you’re never going to run into too low of conditions that you can’t paddle.
[0:12:15 – 0:12:15] Erik: So…
[0:12:16 – 0:12:16] Adam: Yeah.
[0:12:16 – 0:12:21] Adam: I haven’t really, um, like I said, not done the cross river entry a whole lot.
[0:12:22 – 0:12:23] Adam: And, uh,
[0:12:24 – 0:12:30] Adam: Yeah, like honestly, I’ve only gone in straight to Ham and then back.
[0:12:30 – 0:12:30] Adam: Yeah.
[0:12:31 – 0:12:33] Adam: It’s like a one-night sojourn.
[0:12:34 – 0:12:48] Erik: Yeah, the first campsite that you go by, although it is not a Bonjewaters campsite, the first campsite you go by on Ham is the infamous Steve Posniak camp.
[0:12:51 – 0:13:02] Erik: But, yeah, there’s going to be an eventual book report on Gunflint burning and the Ham Lake fire that was started from that exact campsite.
[0:13:02 – 0:13:04] Adam: Yeah, it’s freaky when you go by it.
[0:13:04 – 0:13:06] Adam: It’s still very eerie to see.
[0:13:06 – 0:13:10] Adam: Very obvious this is where a massive forest fire started.
[0:13:10 – 0:13:10] Erik: Yeah.
[0:13:11 – 0:13:15] Erik: Yeah, so that is always a little bit of an ominous start.
[0:13:15 – 0:13:18] Erik: It’s in a channel, and you just go right by it.
[0:13:18 – 0:13:19] Erik: You can’t avoid it.
[0:13:20 – 0:13:28] Erik: You can see where it jumped into that cedar tree, and this whole forest is charred, and then you know, obviously, what it resulted in.
[0:13:29 – 0:13:38] Erik: That’ll probably be an April series we have coming out, and especially if things keep dry, I will want to prioritize that to warn.
[0:13:38 – 0:13:50] Erik: future paddlers of the dry conditions that I feel like we may be getting into here a little bit more this year than we’ve had to worry about for almost a decade now.
[0:13:51 – 0:13:54] Erik: But that’s not necessarily here nor there.
[0:13:55 – 0:14:12] Adam: Ham Lake’s a pretty nice little sneaker lake if you want to have a Boundary Waters experience and can’t get a permit or don’t want to deal with it, just want to do a one-nighter, don’t want to pay for a whole permit for one night kind of deal.
[0:14:13 – 0:14:15] Adam: There’s several very nice campsites on Ham.
[0:14:16 – 0:14:23] Adam: And so that’s one of the better ways to use the cross bay entry, even though you’re not really getting all the way to cross bay lake.
[0:14:23 – 0:14:24] Adam: You wouldn’t.
[0:14:24 – 0:14:25] Adam: It’s more of a cross river entry then.
[0:14:26 – 0:14:28] Erik: You wouldn’t even have to get an overnight camping permit.
[0:14:28 – 0:14:28] Erik: You wouldn’t.
[0:14:29 – 0:14:32] Erik: You could just get a day use permit and then do day trips from ham.
[0:14:33 – 0:14:33] Adam: You could.
[0:14:33 – 0:14:35] Adam: Or you don’t even need to do anything and just stay on ham.
[0:14:35 – 0:14:36] Adam: Just chill on ham.
[0:14:36 – 0:14:37] Erik: Yeah.
[0:14:37 – 0:14:37] Erik: It’s an interesting lake.
[0:14:37 – 0:14:38] Adam: It’s no rules ham.
[0:14:38 – 0:14:40] Erik: No rules ham.
[0:14:40 – 0:14:41] Erik: My favorite kind of ham.
[0:14:42 – 0:14:46] Adam: Yeah, I’m sick of all these rules with my ham steaks.
[0:14:46 – 0:14:49] Erik: Spiral cut, smoked, dry aged.
[0:14:49 – 0:14:51] Erik: Just give me the no rules ham.
[0:14:53 – 0:14:53] Erik: Yeah.
[0:14:54 – 0:14:54] Erik: Bangladesh.
[0:14:55 – 0:14:59] Erik: It’s got a couple of, for sure, one banger of a campsite.
[0:14:59 – 0:15:04] Erik: That second one just to the east of where the campfire was started.
[0:15:05 – 0:15:05] Erik: Yeah.
[0:15:05 – 0:15:06] Adam: On the big point there.
[0:15:07 – 0:15:08] Erik: That’s an awesome campsite.
[0:15:08 – 0:15:09] Erik: It is.
[0:15:09 – 0:15:09] Erik: It’s really good.
[0:15:10 – 0:15:16] Erik: And then even the two to the east, they’re not great, but for a couple of people, maybe even three, four…
[0:15:16 – 0:15:17] Erik: Mm-hmm.
[0:15:36 – 0:15:40] Erik: But you can loop, especially if you do the Frost River, back around to round.
[0:15:40 – 0:15:47] Erik: And the walk, if you’re outfitting yourself, is insignificant.
[0:15:47 – 0:15:56] Erik: If you want to park with one vehicle and then just walk from the Round Lake public access down to the Cross Bay public access, it’s roughly a mile long.
[0:15:56 – 0:16:21] Erik: pick some strawberries and blueberries and raspberries on the way that road is pretty good for the wild berries depending on the time of year or if you want to you can work with obviously tuscarora lodge and outfitters they are less than a mile away in either direction and you can set up outfitting either with them or arrange a shuttle and you can make it even easier so right on um
[0:16:22 – 0:16:32] Erik: But yeah, if you’re doing the cross bay all the way over to Poplar, yeah, that’s a coordinated effort that you would either have to drop a vehicle or set up some kind of a pickup and drop off with an outfitter.
[0:16:34 – 0:16:44] Erik: And anytime you’re working with the Frost River, if that is your loop of choice, I would recommend Andy at Tuscarora as a phone call to check water levels.
[0:16:44 – 0:16:48] Erik: They have the finger on the pulse of that.
[0:16:49 – 0:17:10] Erik: flowage also if you have any like big existential questions about life great resource yeah call him yeah he’s he’s got a bunch of extra time especially during the summer call him like a fourth of july weekend and ask him you know what is the meaning of life meaning of life um what are we even what are we even doing here on this rock
[0:17:10 – 0:17:10] Adam: Mm-hmm.
[0:17:11 – 0:17:12] Erik: They’ll have all the answers.
[0:17:14 – 0:17:18] Erik: Fishing generally is pretty dispersed.
[0:17:18 – 0:17:27] Erik: I think right away like ham, crossbait lake, snipe, you’re probably working with little to nothing.
[0:17:27 – 0:17:29] Erik: A lot of green-eared sunfish though.
[0:17:29 – 0:17:33] Erik: Yeah, mostly like smallish pike, green-eared sunfish.
[0:17:34 – 0:17:39] Erik: Um, getting down to Long Island, you’re in a lake trout and Northern Pike Lake.
[0:17:40 – 0:17:48] Erik: The farther you meet that you move East from Long Island, the more walleye and better bass fishing that you will get into.
[0:17:49 – 0:18:00] Erik: And the farther West you move from Long Island, the more, again, kind of dispersed river travel, which sounds like it might be really good for fishing, but it’s, it’s pretty tough.
[0:18:00 – 0:18:00] Erik: The
[0:18:03 – 0:18:24] Erik: opportunity river but then moving west and north from there you get into more lake trout waters um so it’s it’s like walleyes to the east and lakers to the west off of this entry point and bream all around you bream that’s to the south yes okay so go south you gotta go south you gotta get into the coma
[0:18:24 – 0:18:27] Adam: Get your bucket hat out, and you’re going to find the bream.
[0:18:28 – 0:18:29] Adam: I got a fun fact.
[0:18:30 – 0:18:38] Adam: My personal record for pizza biters consumed was at a lunch on Rib Lake, the one site on Rib.
[0:18:39 – 0:18:42] Adam: It’s not a very nice site, but it’s a great spot for lunch.
[0:18:42 – 0:18:43] Adam: It’s a great spot for chugging biters.
[0:18:43 – 0:18:55] Adam: If you’re making your way, like say you’re going into Cross Bay Lake and making your way to Long Island as your planned route for day one, Rib Lake’s kind of perfect in the middle and likely nobody’s going to be camping there.
[0:18:55 – 0:18:58] Adam: Great spot to pull over and rip a few biters.
[0:19:00 – 0:19:01] Erik: What’s the record?
[0:19:01 – 0:19:02] Erik: How many did you have?
[0:19:03 – 0:19:04] Adam: I can’t disclose that.
[0:19:04 – 0:19:06] Adam: It’s confidential.
[0:19:06 – 0:19:07] Adam: But it’s a lot.
[0:19:07 – 0:19:08] Adam: It’s a lot.
[0:19:08 – 0:19:09] Adam: And more than a bag.
[0:19:09 – 0:19:10] Erik: More than a… Wow.
[0:19:11 – 0:19:12] Erik: There’s different sizes of bags.
[0:19:12 – 0:19:13] Adam: That’s a sneaky answer.
[0:19:13 – 0:19:15] Adam: You’re going to have to keep your guessing.
[0:19:15 – 0:19:16] Adam: Is that your pro tip?
[0:19:16 – 0:19:17] Adam: No.
[0:19:17 – 0:19:27] Adam: My pro tip is on Ham Lake, if you’re going through, as Eric previously mentioned, there’s a number of interesting rocks jutting out from the middle of the lake.
[0:19:28 – 0:19:31] Adam: And there’s one of them that is shaped like a boot.
[0:19:32 – 0:19:33] Adam: That is a port key.
[0:19:33 – 0:19:38] Adam: So you can use that to go anywhere you choose if you touch it under the full moon light.
[0:19:39 – 0:19:41] Erik: Is that the big one in the middle of the lake?
[0:19:41 – 0:19:42] Adam: Yeah, the big one.
[0:19:42 – 0:19:47] Erik: I’ve always thought it was kind of shaped like a whale without a fin, but I can see it as a boot now too that you say that.
[0:19:47 – 0:19:50] Adam: It is a boot, and you can use it as a port key.
[0:19:51 – 0:19:53] Adam: So that’s your pro tip from me.
[0:19:54 – 0:20:04] Erik: Yeah, my pro tip is I got half a pro tip, which is don’t overlook Snipe as a cool, quiet lake just for camping.
[0:20:04 – 0:20:06] Erik: Not anything great in terms of fishing.
[0:20:07 – 0:20:12] Erik: But my main pro tip would be if you’re either you in the Frost River or you’re doing some kind of an
[0:20:13 – 0:20:16] Erik: An eastern A to B sort of a trip.
[0:20:16 – 0:20:17] Erik: Get to Long Island.
[0:20:17 – 0:20:19] Erik: Long Island has excellent campsites.
[0:20:20 – 0:20:22] Erik: You’ve got some sand beach options.
[0:20:22 – 0:20:25] Erik: You’ve got really nice island sites.
[0:20:25 – 0:20:30] Erik: It’s up there with percentage value over replacement.
[0:20:31 – 0:20:33] Erik: It’s huge out on Long Island.
[0:20:33 – 0:20:33] Erik: Absolutely.
[0:20:33 – 0:20:35] Erik: Very nice campsites all around.
[0:20:35 – 0:20:40] Erik: I would say you’re working with like a base level of like a B minus.
[0:20:41 – 0:20:43] Erik: A couple of just banger sites.
[0:20:43 – 0:21:09] Erik: yeah it’s a real beautiful lake yep and you’re just barely on the edge of a previous fire that um kind of you can barely even get a sense is is there um so many nice sites out on long island it’s a great place to get to get a nice early start get out to long island on on night one and then the sky is the limit from there absolute absolutely is carl part of long island
[0:21:10 – 0:21:11] Erik: I mean, I think it is.
[0:21:11 – 0:21:12] Erik: I don’t know why they discriminate.
[0:21:12 – 0:21:13] Erik: There’s no portages.
[0:21:14 – 0:21:16] Erik: It’s essentially all one body of water.
[0:21:17 – 0:21:20] Erik: Carl with a K, get out of here.
[0:21:21 – 0:21:24] Erik: At the very most, you’re a Long Island North Lake.
[0:21:24 – 0:21:25] Erik: You’re not Carl.
[0:21:25 – 0:21:26] Erik: You don’t deserve to exist.
[0:21:26 – 0:21:27] Erik: Middle George.
[0:21:28 – 0:21:29] Erik: Or Middle George.
[0:21:29 – 0:21:31] Erik: Yeah, there’s Upper and Lower George.
[0:21:32 – 0:21:33] Erik: Or just Lower George?
[0:21:33 – 0:21:36] Erik: No, there’s George and then Lower George.
[0:21:36 – 0:21:37] Erik: The George River.
[0:21:38 – 0:21:41] Adam: I think it might be part of the lizard liver.
[0:21:43 – 0:21:44] Adam: The lizard liver.
[0:21:44 – 0:21:44] Adam: Oh, dear.
[0:21:45 – 0:21:48] Erik: Let’s just tune in this August.
[0:21:48 – 0:21:51] Erik: We will be running the George River.
[0:21:52 – 0:21:52] Adam: No, we won’t.
[0:21:53 – 0:21:58] Adam: All right, for Tumholm Express, thanks for being with us tonight from Studio K2.
[0:21:58 – 0:22:00] Adam: Trains leaving the station.
[0:22:00 – 0:22:06] Adam: Make sure you wait until the last possible second and jump on that caboose and give a wave to your family, which you’ll never see again.
[0:22:07 – 0:22:08] Adam: Back to sunny California.
[0:22:08 – 0:22:09] Adam: Arrivederci.
