029: Its Boat Show Time!

Episode Transcript

[0:00:00 – 0:00:02] Erik: Hey there, it’s Eric.
[0:00:03 – 0:00:12] Erik: Before we get into today’s show proper, I wanted to shout out Tom and Andrew and their Seven Generations film on Kickstarter.
[0:00:14 – 0:00:23] Erik: It ends on Monday, August 13th, so we’re going to try to get this podcast out as soon as possible so there’s enough time for anybody who hasn’t heard of them to
[0:00:24 – 0:00:27] Erik: to give them a hand in reaching their goal of $50,000.
[0:00:27 – 0:00:33] Erik: Now, if you haven’t heard, there’s a ton of information on the link I will attach to our show notes.
[0:00:34 – 0:00:47] Erik: Just to give you an idea, they’re trying to finish up putting together a film that is going to shed more light on the sulfide ore copper mining that is threatening northern Minnesota’s most important freshwater resources, including…
[0:00:49 – 0:01:07] Erik: the bodge water skinny wary wilderness so we’ve talked about this in the past and our feelings on it we’re not going to spend a ton of time rehashing that but if you haven’t heard go and check them out every little bit helps and now on with the show
[0:01:43 – 0:01:49] Erik: Hello and welcome to Tumble Home, a Boundary Waters podcast.
[0:01:50 – 0:01:55] Erik: Episode 29, the greatest episode coming at you.
[0:01:56 – 0:01:56] Erik: I am Eric.
[0:01:56 – 0:01:59] Erik: Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
[0:01:59 – 0:02:00] Adam: Laying down that.
[0:02:00 – 0:02:01] Adam: Boats, boats, boats, boats.
[0:02:01 – 0:02:02] Adam: Show beat.
[0:02:02 – 0:02:03] Adam: Boats, boats, boats.
[0:02:04 – 0:02:04] Adam: Is.
[0:02:05 – 0:02:05] Adam: I’m Adam.
[0:02:06 – 0:02:06] Adam: Are you excited?
[0:02:07 – 0:02:07] Adam: I’m excited.
[0:02:07 – 0:02:10] Adam: I am very excited for the boat show.
[0:02:10 – 0:02:11] Adam: Boat show.
[0:02:11 – 0:02:13] Adam: Thinking about it all day today.
[0:02:13 – 0:02:15] Erik: Boots, boots, boots.
[0:02:15 – 0:02:19] Erik: Yeah, we don’t need all these auxiliary musics or sounds.
[0:02:19 – 0:02:20] Erik: We’ve got Adam here.
[0:02:20 – 0:02:22] Erik: Potential Emmy winning.
[0:02:22 – 0:02:24] Adam: I still haven’t got my Emmy nomination from last week.
[0:02:25 – 0:02:29] Adam: Waiting patiently for that and my ballot.
[0:02:30 – 0:02:30] Adam: Yes.
[0:02:30 – 0:02:31] Adam: Where is my ballot?
[0:02:31 – 0:02:33] Adam: The primaries are coming up.
[0:02:33 – 0:02:34] Erik: Oh, no.
[0:02:34 – 0:02:35] Erik: Yeah, that’s something else.
[0:02:36 – 0:02:38] Erik: Yeah, the boat show, we skipped a week.
[0:02:38 – 0:02:42] Erik: We gave the question an extra week to breathe.
[0:02:43 – 0:02:44] Erik: Or simmer, I’m not sure.
[0:02:44 – 0:02:44] Erik: Or simmer, breathe.
[0:02:45 – 0:02:45] Erik: It’s pretty hot.
[0:02:45 – 0:02:48] Erik: Get as many people involved as possible.
[0:02:49 – 0:02:54] Erik: I know I didn’t go in depth into some of the responses, pictures, but there’s a lot out there.
[0:02:55 – 0:02:56] Erik: I’m very excited to get at it.
[0:02:57 – 0:03:01] Erik: But first, and as always, we are sponsored by
[0:03:02 – 0:03:04] Erik: Clearwater Historic Lodge and Canoe Outfitters.
[0:03:06 – 0:03:10] Erik: And it’s been a while since I’ve surprised you.
[0:03:10 – 0:03:15] Erik: Yeah, you got a couple of shot glasses lined up here in Studio K. I figured.
[0:03:15 – 0:03:19] Adam: We got a brand new table, and Studio K is looking nice.
[0:03:19 – 0:03:21] Adam: We got some shot glasses here.
[0:03:21 – 0:03:22] Adam: What do you got here?
[0:03:22 – 0:03:25] Erik: I’ve got something that I just walked into the liquor store.
[0:03:25 – 0:03:27] Erik: I’m like, I want to find something with a boat on it.
[0:03:28 – 0:03:28] Adam: Yeah.
[0:03:29 – 0:03:30] Erik: And there’s not much.
[0:03:30 – 0:03:32] Erik: And I definitely didn’t want to drink Cutty Sark.
[0:03:33 – 0:03:35] Erik: That has a big, big hold.
[0:03:35 – 0:03:38] Adam: You’d be getting more boats on wine labels.
[0:03:38 – 0:03:38] Adam: Yeah.
[0:03:38 – 0:03:41] Erik: I was like, I could go over into the wine section and for sure find something.
[0:03:42 – 0:03:43] Adam: 10 to 12 different sailboats alone.
[0:03:44 – 0:04:06] Erik: yeah and you know we’ve had uh bent paddle they’ve got a canoe i think we’ve been sponsored by that one before we have yeah but i you know it’s special enough that paddle it deserves a little bit more than just a a beer or even a wine and wow it’s uh actually something that i’ve never had a shot of i’ve had it in a mixed drink before
[0:04:07 – 0:04:08] Adam: So this is hard.
[0:04:08 – 0:04:09] Adam: It is hard booze.
[0:04:09 – 0:04:09] Adam: Yes.
[0:04:10 – 0:04:10] Adam: Whoa.
[0:04:11 – 0:04:13] Adam: Lene Aquavit.
[0:04:14 – 0:04:15] Adam: I butchered that.
[0:04:15 – 0:04:17] Erik: Yes.
[0:04:19 – 0:04:19] Erik: It’s Aquavit.
[0:04:20 – 0:04:20] Erik: Aquavit.
[0:04:21 – 0:04:22] Erik: By Lysholm.
[0:04:23 – 0:04:24] Erik: Linney.
[0:04:24 – 0:04:26] Erik: I don’t know what the name of the actual brand is.
[0:04:26 – 0:04:27] Erik: I think it’s Lysholm.
[0:04:27 – 0:04:28] Adam: This is Linney.
[0:04:29 – 0:04:30] SPEAKER_02: Lease home?
[0:04:30 – 0:04:30] Erik: Lainey?
[0:04:31 – 0:04:37] Erik: There’s a huge multi-sailed boat on it.
[0:04:37 – 0:04:39] Adam: Yeah, triple-masted schooner.
[0:04:39 – 0:04:40] Erik: Yeah, that is a schooner.
[0:04:40 – 0:04:48] Erik: We’re not talking schooners, but on the front of the label, it is also touted as being twice across the equator.
[0:04:49 – 0:04:50] Erik: So, yeah.
[0:04:50 – 0:04:51] Erik: What’s that mean?
[0:04:51 – 0:05:02] Erik: Well, it means that this Akavit is famous for its storage at sea and a journey that has continued for more than 200 years.
[0:05:02 – 0:05:14] Erik: Then the story of how they came to make this is that it traveled from Norway to East Asia loaded with goods including five casks of Akavit.
[0:05:14 – 0:05:14] Erik: Wow.
[0:05:16 – 0:05:20] Erik: and they didn’t actually sell it in East Asia, so it made it all the way back to Norway.
[0:05:20 – 0:05:22] Adam: They wanted to pay the proper price.
[0:05:22 – 0:05:23] Adam: They’re like, well, bring it back with us.
[0:05:23 – 0:05:36] Erik: Yeah, and so the constant rolling of the waves and shifting weather conditions transformed the Akavit, and the result being a perfectly balanced Akavit spices.
[0:05:36 – 0:05:36] Adam: Sea-aged?
[0:05:37 – 0:05:38] Adam: Sea-aged.
[0:05:38 – 0:05:40] Erik: I don’t know how they replicate that now synthetically, but…
[0:05:40 – 0:05:45] Adam: No, they literally have to hire a bunch of schooners to drive it around for a couple of years.
[0:05:45 – 0:05:46] Erik: Yeah.
[0:05:46 – 0:05:48] Adam: Age two years in a schooner, guaranteed.
[0:05:49 – 0:06:10] Erik: yep sailed to the other side of the world and back again in a schooner for more than 200 years maybe they don’t do it synthetically i would think that would make this a very expensive bottle of they were just sailing it over to east asia from norway back and forth that can’t be cheap no so i don’t know there’s not many wooden triple masted schooners are still available now there’s pirates
[0:06:11 – 0:06:15] Erik: I don’t know if there’s any satisfying audio that can be had.
[0:06:15 – 0:06:19] Erik: Not nearly as satisfying as the corking of a bottle, but we’ll try to get some here.
[0:06:19 – 0:06:22] Erik: We’ll have a little taste of the Akavit.
[0:06:22 – 0:06:22] Erik: Akavit.
[0:06:23 – 0:06:25] Erik: And then move on to a mystery.
[0:06:34 – 0:06:36] Adam: It’s very satisfying audio.
[0:06:39 – 0:06:39] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:06:42 – 0:06:42] Adam: Oh, boy.
[0:06:43 – 0:06:43] Adam: All right.
[0:06:43 – 0:06:45] Adam: Not only is it Boat Show, it’s game day, too.
[0:06:45 – 0:06:47] Adam: Now we’re pre-gaming for the Packers.
[0:06:48 – 0:06:49] Adam: Cheers, mate.
[0:06:49 – 0:06:50] Erik: Cheers to the Boat Show, my friend.
[0:06:55 – 0:06:56] Adam: Wow.
[0:06:57 – 0:06:58] Adam: Smooth and credible.
[0:06:58 – 0:06:59] Erik: Wow.
[0:06:59 – 0:07:00] Erik: Yeah.
[0:07:01 – 0:07:05] Erik: I don’t know really anything about Akavit, but… Me either.
[0:07:06 – 0:07:07] Erik: It’s almost like a hint of mint.
[0:07:07 – 0:07:07] Erik: I know more now.
[0:07:09 – 0:07:15] Adam: Yeah, like almost a bit of black licorice star anise.
[0:07:15 – 0:07:17] Erik: Very subtle spices, but very delicious.
[0:07:19 – 0:07:21] Adam: You can tell it was at sea, for sure.
[0:07:21 – 0:07:22] Erik: Oh, I can tell.
[0:07:22 – 0:07:27] Adam: It had definitely rocked and rolled its way all the way down to Bali and back.
[0:07:28 – 0:07:29] Adam: Wow, that was nice.
[0:07:29 – 0:07:30] Adam: That was really unexpected.
[0:07:30 – 0:07:31] Adam: Yeah, I know.
[0:07:31 – 0:07:33] Erik: I was like, I got to get something with a big boat on it.
[0:07:33 – 0:07:34] Adam: It warmed my heart.
[0:07:34 – 0:07:36] Erik: Yes, literally.
[0:07:37 – 0:07:45] Erik: So before we get into our thoughts on boats and most importantly yours, there’s something… We have a lot of thoughts on boats.
[0:07:45 – 0:07:45] Erik: We have a lot of thoughts.
[0:07:46 – 0:07:46] Erik: Everybody.
[0:07:48 – 0:07:58] Erik: So at Clearwater, or I’m sure anywhere up here, the lines of communications over the course of a day, week, summer…
[0:08:00 – 0:08:04] Erik: It’s hard to quantify and even put into, I don’t even know how to describe it.
[0:08:04 – 0:08:05] Erik: It’s crazy.
[0:08:05 – 0:08:11] Erik: The frenetic pace, one person tells you one thing, another person tells you another.
[0:08:11 – 0:08:37] Erik: real game and telephone comes and goes it’s basically like uh help that clear water still uses a party line yeah your phone number is literally 6f4 yes contact uh chuck boost from at 6f4 for reservations for the 2019 and one short ring yes uh but it’s just really hard to keep track of just about anything it’s amazing we get anything done up there in august um the peak of the peak right now um
[0:08:38 – 0:08:43] Erik: What this is all leading up to is a very cryptic message I received.
[0:08:44 – 0:08:46] Erik: So with these… Yeah, I’m intrigued.
[0:08:46 – 0:08:52] Erik: Yeah, these messages, the busyness of the day, you come and you hear like half of a conversation.
[0:08:52 – 0:08:54] Erik: You walk out the other side of a room to help somebody else.
[0:08:55 – 0:08:56] Erik: There’s a lot of mysteries.
[0:08:56 – 0:08:57] Erik: I’m on the edge of my seat.
[0:08:57 – 0:09:01] Erik: There’s a lot of mysteries that come up, weird things that happen.
[0:09:01 – 0:09:03] Erik: You hear one thing, you’re like, that can’t possibly be true.
[0:09:04 – 0:09:06] Erik: Well, that’s what they said.
[0:09:06 – 0:09:11] Erik: So the Clearwater Mysteries is kind of an ongoing, you know, every year there’s different mysteries.
[0:09:11 – 0:09:12] Erik: And this is one.
[0:09:13 – 0:09:14] Erik: And the main reason that I’m talking about it.
[0:09:14 – 0:09:15] Adam: Mystery of the week.
[0:09:15 – 0:09:18] Erik: Yeah, hopefully we don’t get to a point where we’re doing mysteries of the week.
[0:09:18 – 0:09:19] Adam: Da-da-na-na-na-na-na.
[0:09:20 – 0:09:25] Erik: I wonder how much it would cost to get the Unsolved Mysteries sound in the background.
[0:09:27 – 0:09:33] Erik: This week on Unsolved Mysteries, random beer appeared.
[0:09:33 – 0:09:35] Erik: And nobody knows where it came from.
[0:09:36 – 0:09:40] Adam: Just was left on the porch in a basket with a stork.
[0:09:40 – 0:09:44] Erik: Yep, with just a single cherry on top.
[0:09:44 – 0:09:45] Erik: I don’t know why.
[0:09:45 – 0:09:46] Erik: Is it a rock bastard?
[0:09:47 – 0:09:47] Erik: No.
[0:09:48 – 0:09:51] Erik: So a staff member left a note.
[0:09:51 – 0:09:52] Erik: Is this the actual note?
[0:09:53 – 0:09:55] Erik: This is the actual note, yes.
[0:09:56 – 0:10:01] Erik: So it was accompanied by two large wine bottle-sized bottles of beer.
[0:10:02 – 0:10:02] Erik: Thank you.
[0:10:03 – 0:10:04] Erik: from John and Kara.
[0:10:05 – 0:10:09] Erik: And then below that, it says microphone slash podcast.
[0:10:09 – 0:10:13] Erik: And then below that, it says Chicago exclusive.
[0:10:14 – 0:10:14] Erik: Mm-hmm.
[0:10:14 – 0:10:16] Erik: And I really appreciate…
[0:10:16 – 0:10:19] Erik: The Chicagoland’s coming out to support the show in a big way.
[0:10:19 – 0:10:19] Erik: Mm-hmm.
[0:10:20 – 0:10:21] Erik: It has been, yeah.
[0:10:21 – 0:10:22] Erik: I appreciate the sponsorship.
[0:10:22 – 0:10:23] Erik: We love the Windy City.
[0:10:24 – 0:10:28] Erik: I don’t want to pop the beer and have it be an official sponsor before I know.
[0:10:28 – 0:10:33] Adam: We’re talking about this as a future sponsorship until the mystery can be clarified a little bit more.
[0:10:34 – 0:10:37] Erik: Yeah, and I went back through and I sifted through emails, messages, everything.
[0:10:37 – 0:10:38] Erik: I couldn’t find anything.
[0:10:38 – 0:10:40] Erik: And this staff person at Clearwater…
[0:10:40 – 0:10:41] Adam: It’s going to be super embarrassing.
[0:10:41 – 0:10:43] Adam: Like, oh, yeah, my aunt and uncle, John and Kara.
[0:10:43 – 0:10:44] Adam: I totally forgot about them.
[0:10:44 – 0:10:50] Adam: There is a great potential for us to be horribly embarrassed.
[0:10:50 – 0:10:50] Adam: I’m going to look bad.
[0:10:50 – 0:10:52] Erik: Yeah.
[0:10:53 – 0:11:13] Erik: but he made it sound like i was like they’re like yeah you should know exactly who they are which is why there is a huge potential for this to just i hope that maybe it wasn’t actually john and kara but something some other name something close to what it says on the note so john and kara if you’re out there send us an email call into the uh fact checker answering machine
[0:11:14 – 0:11:15] Adam: Jim and Catherine.
[0:11:15 – 0:11:16] Erik: Do whatever.
[0:11:16 – 0:11:21] Erik: If you dropped off two large beers from… Actually, that was the thing.
[0:11:21 – 0:11:23] Erik: He wrote microphone slash podcast.
[0:11:23 – 0:11:25] Erik: It turns out that’s the name of the brewery.
[0:11:25 – 0:11:26] Erik: Well, that’s clever.
[0:11:26 – 0:11:27] Erik: I like it.
[0:11:27 – 0:11:29] Adam: I’m currently holding a microphone.
[0:11:29 – 0:11:30] Adam: It’s not a beer.
[0:11:30 – 0:11:30] Adam: No.
[0:11:31 – 0:11:31] Adam: We’re saving those.
[0:11:31 – 0:11:33] Adam: In the future, we’ll have two microphones.
[0:11:34 – 0:11:37] Erik: We’ll go in depth into those beers if we hear back from John and Karen.
[0:11:37 – 0:11:37] Erik: All right.
[0:11:38 – 0:11:39] Erik: I’m excited for that.
[0:11:39 – 0:11:40] Erik: We might be embarrassed.
[0:11:40 – 0:11:43] Erik: We might find out, get to the bottom of the mystery here.
[0:11:43 – 0:11:44] Adam: Sticker news.
[0:11:45 – 0:11:45] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:11:45 – 0:11:46] Erik: Sticker news.
[0:11:47 – 0:11:48] Erik: Sticker news.
[0:11:49 – 0:11:50] Adam: We had these business cards made up.
[0:11:51 – 0:11:51] Adam: Eric did, actually.
[0:11:51 – 0:11:52] Adam: I had nothing to do with it.
[0:11:53 – 0:11:55] Adam: I just got a big stack of them.
[0:11:55 – 0:11:57] Adam: And we’re giving them out, and they’re pretty cool looking.
[0:11:58 – 0:12:02] Adam: If you’re around Grand Marais or at Clearwater Lodge, you probably have seen a stack of these.
[0:12:03 – 0:12:08] Adam: Just as a general info on the podcast, our logo, and then how to find the podcast.
[0:12:09 – 0:12:13] Adam: And they’ve been flying off the shelves in town, but everybody’s like, oh, are they stickers?
[0:12:13 – 0:12:13] Adam: Yeah.
[0:12:13 – 0:12:18] Erik: they’re not stickers, but like a fancy, like the, they’re a square business card.
[0:12:18 – 0:12:20] Erik: And so it looks like a sticker trying to be too fancy.
[0:12:21 – 0:12:26] Adam: People don’t know, recognize them as business cards, but man, but so Eric got some stickers.
[0:12:26 – 0:12:28] Erik: Yeah, I basically turned them into a sticker.
[0:12:28 – 0:12:36] Adam: All right, so John and Kara and whoever else has sent beers our way, we will give you a complimentary Tumble Home sticker.
[0:12:37 – 0:12:38] Erik: Wow.
[0:12:38 – 0:12:39] Erik: This was not discussed.
[0:12:40 – 0:12:44] Erik: I literally, the last two episodes, we’ve talked about how busy I am, and now you’re including…
[0:12:45 – 0:13:13] Adam: going to involve some shipping aspects i’ll handle the shipping i can handle that in my department all right um so anyways it’s exciting though we just got a huge stack of stickers here in studio k who doesn’t very excited so yeah anyways we appreciate all the beer sponsorships we’ve had from individuals and the more i think about the more i’m liking it that we’re not actually officially sponsored by any one brewery it’s the kindness of the hearts of our listeners i think it speaks more to the style of the show
[0:13:13 – 0:13:20] Adam: It is, yeah, and that keeps it, you know, it’s fun having a different beer to hype every episode.
[0:13:20 – 0:13:20] Erik: Yeah.
[0:13:20 – 0:13:21] Erik: Let’s keep it going.
[0:13:21 – 0:13:25] Erik: Maybe if we could make them even more mysterious, let’s turn it into an investigation.
[0:13:25 – 0:13:27] Erik: Where did this beer come from?
[0:13:27 – 0:13:33] Erik: Just send us random beers in the mail with cryptic notes and symbols.
[0:13:34 – 0:13:36] Erik: True Detective Season 3 coming at you.
[0:13:37 – 0:13:37] Adam: All right.
[0:13:37 – 0:13:41] Adam: I got a life pro tip we got to get to, and then let’s get to some boats.
[0:13:41 – 0:13:42] Erik: All right, pro tip me.
[0:13:43 – 0:13:46] Adam: so we’re looking for an extension cord today.
[0:13:46 – 0:13:47] Adam: There’s no extension cords.
[0:13:47 – 0:13:48] Adam: They’re way up in the garage.
[0:13:49 – 0:13:49] Adam: Nothing around the house.
[0:13:50 – 0:13:52] Adam: Natalie goes, can I just use Christmas lights?
[0:13:52 – 0:13:54] Adam: She’s got a huge strand of Christmas lights.
[0:13:55 – 0:13:55] Adam: I said, absolutely.
[0:13:56 – 0:13:59] Adam: I was like, wait, why aren’t all extension cords Christmas lights?
[0:14:01 – 0:14:02] Erik: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
[0:14:02 – 0:14:05] Erik: That would turn any project into a real fun time.
[0:14:05 – 0:14:05] Adam: A lot more fun.
[0:14:06 – 0:14:10] Adam: Honestly, how hard is it to put some LED lights into an extension cord?
[0:14:10 – 0:14:14] Adam: That’s what rope lights literally are with the normal size plugs.
[0:14:14 – 0:14:15] Adam: So let’s make it happen.
[0:14:16 – 0:14:22] Adam: Let’s abolish all extension cords by the year 2022, and they all have to be Christmas lights.
[0:14:23 – 0:14:23] Adam: Feliz Navidad.
[0:14:24 – 0:14:25] Adam: Let’s hit some boats, baby.
[0:14:25 – 0:14:26] Erik: Let’s get to the boats.
[0:14:28 – 0:14:29] Adam: It’s boat show time.
[0:14:31 – 0:14:32] Erik: All right.
[0:14:32 – 0:14:33] Erik: It is time.
[0:14:33 – 0:14:34] Adam: Are you hyped?
[0:14:34 – 0:14:35] Adam: I’m hyped.
[0:14:36 – 0:14:37] Adam: We got pontoons.
[0:14:37 – 0:14:38] Adam: We got sailboats.
[0:14:38 – 0:14:40] Adam: We got triple-masted schooners.
[0:14:41 – 0:14:42] Adam: Do we ever figure out what those things are really called?
[0:14:42 – 0:14:43] Erik: We got pleasure boats.
[0:14:43 – 0:14:44] Erik: No, I have no idea.
[0:14:44 – 0:14:45] Erik: I think schooner is good.
[0:14:46 – 0:14:47] Erik: I feel like there’s still a name.
[0:14:47 – 0:14:48] Erik: Is it a cuddy?
[0:14:48 – 0:14:50] Erik: Isn’t that where Cuddy Sark comes from?
[0:14:51 – 0:14:53] Adam: Merchant.
[0:14:53 – 0:14:54] Erik: Trader.
[0:14:54 – 0:14:56] Erik: The intensity quickly dropping off here.
[0:14:56 – 0:14:57] Adam: Wow.
[0:14:58 – 0:14:58] Adam: Hang with us, folks.
[0:14:58 – 0:15:00] Adam: It is, in fact, the boat show.
[0:15:00 – 0:15:00] Adam: We got kneeboards.
[0:15:02 – 0:15:10] Erik: We are starting with your comments, your pictures, which won’t come through necessarily on the podcast, but we’re going to talk about them.
[0:15:10 – 0:15:13] Adam: We’re going to try and post some of them or share them onto social media.
[0:15:13 – 0:15:14] Adam: Yeah.
[0:15:15 – 0:15:18] Adam: Certainly, I think this first entrant via email…
[0:15:19 – 0:15:20] Adam: It’s probably the strongest entrant.
[0:15:20 – 0:15:23] Adam: We’re going to start there with our email from James.
[0:15:23 – 0:15:27] Adam: And hopefully one of these, he sent multiple images of very beautiful boats.
[0:15:28 – 0:15:29] Adam: And we’ve got permission.
[0:15:29 – 0:15:33] Adam: We’re going to use one of them when we post the episode on Facebook on Sunday.
[0:15:34 – 0:15:37] Adam: This image, one of these images will be with the show link.
[0:15:38 – 0:15:43] Erik: Yeah, so we’re starting with you guys this time, and we’ll get to our thoughts at the end.
[0:15:43 – 0:15:50] Adam: This show really is about you, even though we did a 12-minute cold open about Christmas lights.
[0:15:50 – 0:15:52] Adam: But, you know, this one really is about you.
[0:15:52 – 0:15:56] Adam: Let’s get to this email from the trout canoe guy.
[0:15:56 – 0:15:56] Erik: James.
[0:15:58 – 0:16:02] Erik: So he sent us a very nice email.
[0:16:02 – 0:16:07] Erik: It was very long, but it was also very, it wasn’t hard to read or anything.
[0:16:07 – 0:16:10] Erik: It was like everything about it was well-written, lots of information.
[0:16:10 – 0:16:13] Erik: I’m going to just pretty much stick with the stuff that pertains.
[0:16:13 – 0:16:16] Adam: You forwarded it to me while I was at work and I like pulled it up and I’m like, this is amazing.
[0:16:16 – 0:16:20] Adam: And then I was like, I can’t even, I got to wait till I’m on break to really read this.
[0:16:20 – 0:16:23] Adam: I could not even, I had to actually sit down to enjoy this.
[0:16:23 – 0:16:24] Adam: Yeah.
[0:16:24 – 0:16:29] Adam: Along with the nice email were a bunch of pictures.
[0:16:29 – 0:16:30] Adam: Very cool pictures.
[0:16:30 – 0:16:32] Adam: I’m super excited about the pictures.
[0:16:32 – 0:16:35] Adam: Yeah, hand-painted canoes.
[0:16:35 – 0:16:36] Adam: He’s an artist, truly.
[0:16:36 – 0:16:39] Adam: I say that from the bottom of my heart.
[0:16:39 – 0:16:41] Adam: I wish I had a canoe that looked like one of these.
[0:16:42 – 0:17:06] Erik: yeah so he paints them like trout yeah like he refers to himself as the trout canoe guy they’re super realistic too yeah like it looks like the trout he is intending it to look like very skilled so just to lift a little bit out of the email that we got from james do you want to read that you think you can handle those uh scientific names there yeah i think so
[0:17:08 – 0:17:14] Adam: I’m kinda known as the trout canoe guy around my ballywick for obvious reasons, sea pics, oh we see em.
[0:17:15 – 0:17:22] Adam: My favorite boat is my Salavinius Namekush, known as Les Bonnes Thames, which is a Winona Prism.
[0:17:22 – 0:17:29] Adam: My go-to two-person is my Salmo Truta, the sassy Sioux, named for my adult daughter Molly,
[0:17:29 – 0:17:35] Adam: It’s a Souris River Quetico 17 that is perfect for tender feet and lily dippers who are water shy.
[0:17:36 – 0:17:49] Adam: My beater fishing rig is a Winona Fisherman painted as Ornkornikus Wow, named the Punky Doodler for my son.
[0:17:50 – 0:17:54] Adam: Both kids’ nicknames from childhood, but they still answer to him, especially if dad’s cooking in camp.
[0:17:56 – 0:18:01] Adam: Sorry about the butchering of the punky doodler Latin, but you get the drift.
[0:18:01 – 0:18:07] Adam: He’s got kind of a Latin name for the specific species of the boat and then more of a playful name that goes with the boat.
[0:18:08 – 0:18:11] Adam: Sent us a lot of cool pictures of trout painted boats.
[0:18:12 – 0:18:17] Adam: So I was definitely looking forward to redoing the gel coat on my boat in the near future.
[0:18:18 – 0:18:21] Adam: I might have to consider going with a fish gel coat.
[0:18:21 – 0:18:22] Adam: These are incredible.
[0:18:22 – 0:18:23] Erik: Yeah.
[0:18:23 – 0:18:24] Erik: They’re all really cool.
[0:18:24 – 0:18:28] Erik: I especially like the one with the snow in the background.
[0:18:28 – 0:18:29] Erik: It just makes it pop.
[0:18:30 – 0:18:30] Erik: Yeah.
[0:18:30 – 0:18:31] Erik: It’s the rainbow trout.
[0:18:31 – 0:18:33] Adam: The rainbow trout on like a snowy bank.
[0:18:33 – 0:18:33] Adam: Yeah.
[0:18:34 – 0:18:34] Adam: Beautiful.
[0:18:34 – 0:18:35] Erik: Super cool.
[0:18:36 – 0:18:36] Erik: Thanks, James.
[0:18:36 – 0:18:38] Adam: That might be the picture we got to go with, but…
[0:18:38 – 0:18:39] Erik: I think so.
[0:18:39 – 0:18:45] Erik: It’s very, uh, very attractive, really cool to be sitting in a canoe like that.
[0:18:46 – 0:18:47] Adam: And it’s a real statement piece there.
[0:18:47 – 0:18:48] Adam: Yeah.
[0:18:48 – 0:18:48] Adam: Thanks for that.
[0:18:48 – 0:18:50] Adam: Those are honestly works of art.
[0:18:50 – 0:18:53] Adam: And, um, thank you very much for sharing them.
[0:18:53 – 0:18:57] Adam: I, I wish more people just did wild artwork on their canoes like that.
[0:18:57 – 0:18:58] Adam: I’m really inspired.
[0:18:58 – 0:19:02] Adam: I think I’m going to aim higher than just going with a plain white gel coat in the future.
[0:19:03 – 0:19:05] Erik: You can put one of those Tumble Home stickers on it.
[0:19:05 – 0:19:06] Adam: Yeah, there you go.
[0:19:06 – 0:19:09] Adam: Maybe a couple hundred of them.
[0:19:09 – 0:19:10] Erik: Oh, wow.
[0:19:10 – 0:19:13] Erik: Yeah, that would be a real insane canoe.
[0:19:14 – 0:19:16] Erik: I’m sure you could put enough of them together to make a little patch.
[0:19:16 – 0:19:19] Adam: You get one Tumble Home sticker for every trip into the park.
[0:19:19 – 0:19:23] Erik: It’s like those little stickers that you used to put on your helmets in football.
[0:19:23 – 0:19:26] Erik: For every sack, you get one of those skull and crossbones.
[0:19:27 – 0:19:30] Erik: Do we want to move on to digital Facebook first?
[0:19:30 – 0:19:30] Erik: Yeah.
[0:19:30 – 0:19:37] Adam: We’ve got high-speed internet here today in Studio K. We’re going smoothly into digital Facebook.
[0:19:37 – 0:19:43] Erik: And if you’re just joining us, we are wondering what you were paddling in the park and why.
[0:19:45 – 0:19:49] Erik: The more backstory, the better, but not necessary.
[0:19:49 – 0:19:49] Adam: Pictures are appreciated.
[0:19:50 – 0:19:57] Erik: Yeah, we got some, and I don’t think it was ever actually commented on or mentioned.
[0:19:58 – 0:19:59] Erik: Oh, no, it is.
[0:19:59 – 0:20:00] Erik: We’ll get to it.
[0:20:00 – 0:20:00] Erik: Sorry.
[0:20:01 – 0:20:02] Erik: So let’s just switch off.
[0:20:02 – 0:20:04] Erik: Do you want to start with Arthur, and then we’ll go from there?
[0:20:04 – 0:20:05] Adam: Sure thing.
[0:20:05 – 0:20:09] Adam: Arthur, Winona Boundary Waters Kevlar, because it’s wide like me.
[0:20:11 – 0:20:11] Erik: Nice.
[0:20:12 – 0:20:14] Adam: I think the Boundary Waters has a nice rocker on it.
[0:20:14 – 0:20:18] Adam: We were before the show kind of going over the measurements and figures on boats.
[0:20:18 – 0:20:22] Adam: I think the Boundary Waters kind of has those pointed nose and tail.
[0:20:23 – 0:20:24] Erik: Yeah, it does.
[0:20:25 – 0:20:30] Erik: It’s got definitely a very flat bottom, very stable.
[0:20:30 – 0:20:40] Erik: I know those are the canoes at Clearwater when somebody’s just going out for the day and they’re looking to just fish.
[0:20:40 – 0:20:41] Adam: It’s under sports and leisure.
[0:20:42 – 0:20:44] Erik: I feel very confident sending that one out.
[0:20:44 – 0:20:46] Erik: Not much rocker, actually, only an inch.
[0:20:46 – 0:20:46] Erik: No rocker.
[0:20:46 – 0:20:48] Erik: Yeah, but it’s wide.
[0:20:48 – 0:20:48] Erik: It’s wide.
[0:20:49 – 0:20:50] Erik: One inch of rocker.
[0:20:51 – 0:20:52] Erik: 17 feet long.
[0:20:54 – 0:20:55] Adam: When did that come out?
[0:20:55 – 0:20:55] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:20:55 – 0:20:56] Adam: It’s a newer boat.
[0:20:56 – 0:20:58] Erik: It definitely is a newer Winona boat.
[0:20:58 – 0:21:00] Erik: I think maybe four or five years ago now.
[0:21:01 – 0:21:02] Adam: Yeah, it might be older than that.
[0:21:03 – 0:21:04] Adam: Anyways, they’re nice boats.
[0:21:04 – 0:21:04] Erik: Yeah.
[0:21:04 – 0:21:05] Erik: Good choice.
[0:21:05 – 0:21:06] Erik: I mean, they have that name for a reason.
[0:21:06 – 0:21:07] Erik: They can haul a ton of gear.
[0:21:07 – 0:21:08] Adam: They’re stable.
[0:21:09 – 0:21:12] Adam: You think they were hanging on to that name for a while until they really got everything right?
[0:21:12 – 0:21:14] Erik: Yeah, I wonder how that all worked.
[0:21:14 – 0:21:18] Erik: Like, what the process of naming a canoe after a wilderness area.
[0:21:18 – 0:21:20] Adam: Yeah, they’re going to hang on to that name.
[0:21:20 – 0:21:21] Adam: That’s a special name.
[0:21:21 – 0:21:22] Erik: Yeah, so…
[0:21:23 – 0:21:48] Erik: um moving down don i solo paddle a suras river aquetico 17.5 kevlar canoe appreciate its stability and handling as a tripping canoe and it has enough space for my golden retriever and my camera gear and there’s a picture of them wow uh don what’s the name of your uh golden retriever what’s the name of your camera yeah that’s a camera right there it’s a nice red boat beautiful
[0:21:50 – 0:21:51] Erik: Thank you for sharing.
[0:21:52 – 0:21:56] Erik: Yeah, the Souris River is definitely one of the three main.
[0:21:57 – 0:21:59] Adam: She is solo tripping in a Quetico 17.5?
[0:22:00 – 0:22:01] Adam: Yeah, I bet.
[0:22:01 – 0:22:03] Adam: That’s a nice size solo canoe.
[0:22:03 – 0:22:05] Erik: Putting a bunch of gear up front.
[0:22:05 – 0:22:05] Adam: Yeah.
[0:22:06 – 0:22:06] Erik: For sure.
[0:22:06 – 0:22:11] Adam: I’ve done solo in my tandem down a river trip.
[0:22:12 – 0:22:12] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:22:12 – 0:22:12] Adam: For sure.
[0:22:12 – 0:22:16] Adam: You just load everything up in the nose and then it’s a beautiful riverboat.
[0:22:16 – 0:22:41] Erik: yeah the sewers rivers those those are the canoes that have like the the ribs for stability along the bottom yeah and i don’t know we’ll get into some of our thoughts on the different makes and models later on but uh nate nate’s up next nate’s got a winona escape fast late and makes portaging a breeze yeah uh we we used to use the escape a lot on our trips
[0:22:42 – 0:22:44] Adam: The one thing I know about the Escape is… E9?
[0:22:45 – 0:22:46] Adam: I feel like we’re using E9 a lot.
[0:22:47 – 0:22:48] Erik: Or E7.
[0:22:48 – 0:22:50] Erik: I don’t remember the name of the number.
[0:22:50 – 0:22:51] Erik: It was E9.
[0:22:51 – 0:23:02] Erik: I always do know that the thwart bar in front of the yoke is much closer than it is on the Minnesota 2.
[0:23:03 – 0:23:04] Erik: So you can actually reach it.
[0:23:04 – 0:23:08] Erik: So when you’re portaging, you can just put your hand out and it’s right on that bar there.
[0:23:09 – 0:23:10] Erik: And you don’t have to…
[0:23:10 – 0:23:34] Adam: i believe it’s a little shorter than i’m into yes definitely is perhaps a smidge wider but really nice stable boat also pretty fast yeah i agree and they’re really a breeze on the portage it really the comet says it all nate yep pretty much a perfect boat um i really like the escape a lot i don’t know we should maybe we should maybe do a trip and escape again we keep going out in m1 yeah i know maybe what happened to e9 is the e9 still around
[0:23:35 – 0:23:37] Erik: We actually don’t buy any more escapes.
[0:23:37 – 0:23:38] Erik: I don’t know why.
[0:23:38 – 0:23:40] Adam: Hopefully it’s still in the back of the yard somewhere.
[0:23:40 – 0:23:40] Adam: We should dig it out.
[0:23:41 – 0:23:45] Erik: Alan, Green Winona Spirit 2 Tough Weave Edition.
[0:23:45 – 0:23:48] Erik: It’s big enough to fit me plus two kids for a week.
[0:23:48 – 0:23:49] Erik: At least I hope.
[0:23:50 – 0:23:51] Adam: Yeah, it’ll work.
[0:23:52 – 0:23:53] Erik: Spirit 2 is solid.
[0:23:53 – 0:23:55] Erik: That was the first month up in Quetico.
[0:23:55 – 0:24:02] Erik: I took a Spirit 2 Royal X model because I thought I was going to run into way more rocks than I actually did.
[0:24:03 – 0:24:10] Erik: But the Spirit 2 and the Boundary Waters, I think those are nice in between either.
[0:24:11 – 0:24:12] Adam: Good all around.
[0:24:12 – 0:24:12] Adam: Yeah.
[0:24:12 – 0:24:13] Adam: They’re good at everything.
[0:24:14 – 0:24:17] Erik: Kind of in between the Champlain and the Minnesota 2 where it’s like,
[0:24:18 – 0:24:20] Adam: It’s that friend you have that’s just good at everything.
[0:24:20 – 0:24:23] Adam: You’re like, I love you, but I sort of hate you.
[0:24:23 – 0:24:24] Adam: I’m a little jealous.
[0:24:26 – 0:24:27] Erik: Yeah, exactly.
[0:24:27 – 0:24:27] Erik: That makes sense.
[0:24:28 – 0:24:31] Adam: Mark, 73, Illumina Craft.
[0:24:32 – 0:24:33] Adam: Hey-oh.
[0:24:33 – 0:24:34] Adam: Shout out.
[0:24:35 – 0:24:40] Adam: Mainly because it’s loud, really heavy, old, and used on my very first trip in 1986.
[0:24:41 – 0:24:43] Adam: And still no worse for the wear.
[0:24:44 – 0:24:49] Adam: I will admit, however, that I am tempted by the 40-pound Kevlar rides cruising through the portages.
[0:24:50 – 0:24:51] Adam: Got some nice stickers here.
[0:24:51 – 0:24:55] Adam: Old Minnesota Department of Natural Resources stamps.
[0:24:55 – 0:24:55] Adam: That’s sweet.
[0:24:56 – 0:25:13] Adam: 74 75 76 very aggressive looking yeah i used to list out the years that’s good for now you just get one it’s like it’s good till 22 yeah it’s very simplified 22 and then the one from 76 to 80 was a flying looks like a flying duck yeah it’s more like a trout stamp or like a i guess a waterfall stamp there
[0:25:13 – 0:25:34] Erik: come on Minnesota Department of Natural Resources bring back the cool bring back the creativity yeah bring back you can have people like send in like submissions yeah like stamps yeah way more interesting than just like the yeah it’s registered through 20 and it’s just the number 20 just like in computer font yeah oh yeah I’m registered until 2021 blah blah blah blah blah government
[0:25:35 – 0:25:40] Erik: I never realized that these old kinds of fun registrations existed.
[0:25:40 – 0:25:41] Adam: Yeah, those are collector’s items.
[0:25:41 – 0:25:42] Adam: Yeah, thanks, Mark.
[0:25:42 – 0:25:46] Adam: On a cool classic canoe like an old 73 Alumina Craft.
[0:25:46 – 0:25:49] Erik: Yeah, you should be proud to have those on your canoe.
[0:25:49 – 0:25:49] Erik: Those are awesome.
[0:25:50 – 0:25:50] Adam: Awesome canoe, Mark.
[0:25:51 – 0:25:53] Erik: DNR, if you’re listening, let’s open this up.
[0:25:53 – 0:25:53] Erik: Let’s get fun.
[0:25:54 – 0:25:54] Erik: Let’s have some fun.
[0:25:57 – 0:26:02] Erik: Mike, Souris 18.5, stable boat, great for fishing.
[0:26:03 – 0:26:04] Erik: That’s a nice little warm, glowing sunset.
[0:26:05 – 0:26:05] Erik: It could be a sunrise.
[0:26:11 – 0:26:12] Erik: It looks more like sunset to me.
[0:26:12 – 0:26:13] Adam: It looks like a sunset to me.
[0:26:15 – 0:26:16] Erik: Yep.
[0:26:16 – 0:26:16] Erik: 18.5s.
[0:26:16 – 0:26:22] Erik: Yeah, those are some long boats, but not as long as a lot of three persons come.
[0:26:22 – 0:26:24] Erik: So they do make it work.
[0:26:25 – 0:26:26] Erik: Nice choice.
[0:26:26 – 0:26:26] Adam: Solid.
[0:26:26 – 0:26:28] Adam: Two fellow… Got some ups.
[0:26:29 – 0:26:30] Erik: A couple of thumbs ups there.
[0:26:32 – 0:26:39] Adam: Brian says, Whichever one the outfitter deems we should be using for where we’re going and what we’re doing.
[0:26:39 – 0:26:39] Adam: Ha ha.
[0:26:41 – 0:26:42] Adam: Which is mostly fishing.
[0:26:43 – 0:26:43] Erik: Yeah.
[0:26:43 – 0:26:43] Erik: Yeah.
[0:26:44 – 0:26:45] Adam: Trust your outfitter.
[0:26:46 – 0:26:46] Adam: Honestly.
[0:26:47 – 0:26:47] Erik: Yeah.
[0:26:47 – 0:26:55] Erik: No, and that’s, I mean, most of the time that’s, I kind of gauge what the people are going to be doing on their trip, where they’re going.
[0:26:55 – 0:27:01] Adam: If you don’t paddle enough to justify having your own boat, there’s definitely the way to go is to just come on up and around.
[0:27:01 – 0:27:06] Adam: You don’t have to deal with driving up here with it on your car, shaking around in the wind.
[0:27:09 – 0:27:10] Adam: Just take one out of the outfitter.
[0:27:11 – 0:27:11] Adam: No problemo.
[0:27:11 – 0:27:20] Erik: Somebody that drove up from Texas with their own canoe, and they said they were driving down the highway, and it was really windy through the plains.
[0:27:21 – 0:27:45] Erik: and all of a sudden the thing just blew all the way over to one side off of the top of their vehicle side saddle but it was yeah it was still attached because of the straps but it was just off and it was on it was like on the road so like a like two to three inches of like royal x like rubbed off the side of this so it can happen i just heard of somebody who lost an aluminum off their uh
[0:27:46 – 0:28:08] Adam: off their lid going down the gunflint last week did you hear anything about that no aluminum canoe loose just a loose one flew off a car nobody was behind them oh no how do you not notice that what they stopped oh they did okay i thought you said there was just a loose aluminum it was attributed to a strap failure my sources are yeah they’re saying it was a strap failure
[0:28:08 – 0:28:12] Erik: Oh, well, let’s not throw any strap manufacturers under the bus here.
[0:28:12 – 0:28:13] Erik: It’s probably Coghlan’s.
[0:28:13 – 0:28:14] Adam: Coghlan’s straps.
[0:28:18 – 0:28:21] Erik: Ethan, we take about one trip a year to date.
[0:28:22 – 0:28:26] Erik: We haven’t invested in a Kevlar canoe, so we rent them.
[0:28:26 – 0:28:36] Erik: Anything from the infamous Min 2 to Bells to Seneca, depending on the group and trip, rented in aluminum way back as a Boy Scout.
[0:28:37 – 0:28:38] Erik: Never again will I fall for that trick.
[0:28:39 – 0:28:42] Erik: I had a little trick today that happened, actually.
[0:28:42 – 0:28:43] Erik: That’s funny that that comes up.
[0:28:43 – 0:28:44] Erik: Thanks, Ethan.
[0:28:45 – 0:28:47] Erik: Just in the course of the day, how busy things get.
[0:28:47 – 0:28:51] Erik: A lot of times we stage canoes down the road at West Berskin a mile away.
[0:28:51 – 0:28:51] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:28:52 – 0:28:53] Erik: And I was sending out two groups.
[0:28:54 – 0:28:55] Erik: One was going out overnight.
[0:28:55 – 0:28:56] Erik: The other was just day tripping.
[0:28:57 – 0:28:59] Erik: And the day trip group I send out with aluminums.
[0:29:00 – 0:29:05] Erik: So it was a two-person aluminum and a long aluminum, which we can talk about those.
[0:29:06 – 0:29:09] Erik: And then the other group was two three-person Kevlar’s.
[0:29:10 – 0:29:12] Erik: And we were just so busy this morning.
[0:29:12 – 0:29:14] Erik: I was sending people down to those canoes.
[0:29:14 – 0:29:15] Erik: I’m like, your canoes are down at West Bearskin.
[0:29:16 – 0:29:17] Erik: Head on out.
[0:29:17 – 0:29:18] Erik: Here’s your paddles and vests.
[0:29:18 – 0:29:20] Erik: When you’re done, just leave the canoes.
[0:29:20 – 0:29:20] Erik: We’ll pick them up.
[0:29:21 – 0:29:27] Erik: And another group came in and said, there’s just aluminum canoes down there.
[0:29:27 – 0:29:28] Adam: Oh.
[0:29:28 – 0:29:33] Erik: And so the group that I sent out for the day that was supposed to take the aluminums took the Kevlar’s out.
[0:29:33 – 0:29:34] Adam: Of course they did.
[0:29:34 – 0:29:34] Erik: Yeah.
[0:29:34 – 0:29:35] Erik: Hey, look at these.
[0:29:35 – 0:29:36] Erik: These are nice and light.
[0:29:36 – 0:29:37] Erik: Let’s just go with these.
[0:29:37 – 0:29:39] Adam: They would definitely not be setting us up with these aluminums.
[0:29:39 – 0:29:40] Adam: Yeah.
[0:29:40 – 0:29:44] Erik: They did not fall for the trick, but that was the trick they were supposed to be going with.
[0:29:45 – 0:29:45] Erik: So.
[0:29:46 – 0:29:53] Adam: Jeremy, haven’t made it to the BWCA yet, but we’re paddling an MRC Lamoille for family trips.
[0:29:53 – 0:29:58] Adam: The price is right, and it’s not terribly heavy at 65 pounds for an old gel coat Kevlar boat.
[0:29:59 – 0:30:02] Adam: 18 and a half foot, it’s big enough for the four of us.
[0:30:02 – 0:30:03] Adam: The canoe’s under there somewhere.
[0:30:04 – 0:30:05] Adam: He’s got a picture.
[0:30:05 – 0:30:06] Adam: It’s a lot of gear and kids.
[0:30:07 – 0:30:09] Erik: It was like two kids in a bear barrel just floating on the water.
[0:30:10 – 0:30:10] Erik: It’s amazing.
[0:30:11 – 0:30:12] Erik: The Lamoille Mad River.
[0:30:13 – 0:30:13] Erik: Shout out.
[0:30:14 – 0:30:16] Erik: I love the Mad River logo.
[0:30:17 – 0:30:17] Erik: Yeah.
[0:30:17 – 0:30:18] Erik: The little smoking bunny.
[0:30:19 – 0:30:19] Adam: The old bunny.
[0:30:20 – 0:30:20] Adam: Yeah.
[0:30:21 – 0:30:22] Adam: Smoking the peace pipe.
[0:30:22 – 0:30:25] Erik: There was a Lamoille that we had at Clearwater for a minute.
[0:30:25 – 0:30:26] Erik: Do you remember that?
[0:30:26 – 0:30:27] Erik: Yeah.
[0:30:27 – 0:30:29] Erik: They’re long for a tandem.
[0:30:29 – 0:30:33] Erik: Two seats, 18 and a half feet with just an amazing amount of room.
[0:30:33 – 0:30:38] Erik: I’ve never actually paddled one on a trip, but Jeremy also doubles down.
[0:30:40 – 0:30:40] Erik: Double down.
[0:30:40 – 0:30:43] Erik: I also just picked up a Bell Rockstar Solo.
[0:30:44 – 0:30:48] Erik: Got it because it’s light enough to portage easily and big enough to haul the kids on day trips.
[0:30:49 – 0:30:52] Erik: There he is out there paddling that little Bell.
[0:30:52 – 0:30:53] Erik: The Bell Solos.
[0:30:53 – 0:30:57] Erik: They’re kind of like a hot commodity out there.
[0:30:57 – 0:30:57] Erik: They don’t exist anymore.
[0:30:58 – 0:30:59] Adam: Nobody’s selling them.
[0:31:00 – 0:31:03] Adam: It’s like a good used snowblower or a solo canoe.
[0:31:03 – 0:31:06] Adam: You can’t find them on Craigslist or on the sell and swap.
[0:31:06 – 0:31:09] Erik: Comparing old Bell solos to snowblowers.
[0:31:09 – 0:31:13] Adam: I’m just saying that there’s two things on the used market that you cannot find.
[0:31:13 – 0:31:15] Adam: It’s a good used snowblower or a solo canoe.
[0:31:16 – 0:31:17] Erik: A good used snowblower.
[0:31:17 – 0:31:17] Erik: Yeah.
[0:31:17 – 0:31:21] Erik: Anytime you see a snowblower, it’s up there with like pianos.
[0:31:21 – 0:31:22] Erik: You’re like…
[0:31:22 – 0:31:23] Erik: You can’t give those things away.
[0:31:23 – 0:31:30] Adam: Yeah, pianos and like old TVs are like the thing you see the most on the used market.
[0:31:30 – 0:31:33] Erik: I will pay you money to come and pick up this TV.
[0:31:33 – 0:31:35] Adam: 20 bucks for this old Magnavox.
[0:31:35 – 0:31:36] Adam: It’s a 32-inch screen.
[0:31:36 – 0:31:36] Adam: Also weighs 820 pounds.
[0:31:37 – 0:31:37] Adam: Yeah.
[0:31:37 – 0:31:37] Adam: You haul.
[0:31:37 – 0:31:37] Adam: Yeah.
[0:31:40 – 0:31:48] Adam: So on one end of the spectrum, you’ve got old-ass TVs and not so much pianos, but those organs.
[0:31:49 – 0:31:50] Adam: I see those things on there all the time.
[0:31:50 – 0:31:52] Adam: I’m like, please, somebody get this organ.
[0:31:52 – 0:31:54] Adam: It’s somehow on the third floor of my house.
[0:31:55 – 0:31:56] Adam: You have to walk up.
[0:31:56 – 0:31:57] Adam: No, you pay me $25.
[0:31:58 – 0:32:01] Adam: Maybe I’ll consider getting that organ out of your attic.
[0:32:01 – 0:32:02] Adam: Attic organs.
[0:32:03 – 0:32:06] Adam: And on the other side, you’ve got solo canoes.
[0:32:06 – 0:32:08] Adam: Very hard to find, especially those old bells.
[0:32:08 – 0:32:09] Adam: Oh, man.
[0:32:09 – 0:32:10] Adam: It’s a beauty.
[0:32:10 – 0:32:11] Adam: I don’t know how he got it.
[0:32:11 – 0:32:12] Adam: We’re jealous.
[0:32:13 – 0:32:14] Adam: Zachary’s up next.
[0:32:16 – 0:32:23] Adam: Sam’s and my first trip, we rocked this Coleman 17-footer because it’s what we had and wanted a cheap trip.
[0:32:24 – 0:32:26] Adam: Little do we know, portaging this beast would suck.
[0:32:29 – 0:32:30] Adam: Beast is in all caps.
[0:32:31 – 0:32:31] Adam: Yeah.
[0:32:31 – 0:32:32] Adam: And rightly stated.
[0:32:33 – 0:32:36] Adam: This year we are renting a Champlain because it’s wide and we like to fish.
[0:32:37 – 0:32:39] Adam: Most importantly, it’s much lighter than the Coleman.
[0:32:39 – 0:32:40] Adam: You don’t say.
[0:32:40 – 0:32:41] Erik: Yeah, I’d be like.
[0:32:41 – 0:32:43] Adam: What are those Coleman’s made out of?
[0:32:43 – 0:32:44] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:32:44 – 0:32:44] Erik: It’s not.
[0:32:45 – 0:32:47] Erik: Like thin cement.
[0:32:47 – 0:32:48] Adam: Thin, colorful cement.
[0:32:51 – 0:32:52] Adam: Yeah.
[0:32:52 – 0:32:53] Adam: Same as their tents.
[0:32:53 – 0:32:54] Josh: Mm-hmm.
[0:32:55 – 0:32:56] Adam: Burn, Coleman.
[0:32:57 – 0:33:03] Adam: Don’t start your brand name with a C and an O. Coleman’s right up there with Coghlan on our short list of canoes.
[0:33:03 – 0:33:05] Adam: It’s lucky Coghlan’s doesn’t make a canoe.
[0:33:06 – 0:33:07] Erik: Could you imagine what that would look like?
[0:33:07 – 0:33:09] Adam: It would literally be heavier than these Coleman’s.
[0:33:10 – 0:33:14] Adam: Then you’d get out on the water and it would just dissolve in water somehow and you’d just sink.
[0:33:15 – 0:33:19] Erik: You probably buy it from the shelf at like a grocery store or gas station where everything else comes.
[0:33:19 – 0:33:22] Erik: And it’s one of those things you add water to and it expands.
[0:33:23 – 0:33:24] Erik: One of those like dinosaurs.
[0:33:24 – 0:33:25] Erik: Yeah.
[0:33:25 – 0:33:25] Erik: God.
[0:33:27 – 0:33:27] Erik: Paige.
[0:33:29 – 0:33:33] Erik: This is the man who… Paige.
[0:33:33 – 0:33:34] Erik: Chiming in.
[0:33:34 – 0:33:35] Erik: Yeah.
[0:33:35 – 0:33:37] Erik: The canoe in the picture for the question of the week.
[0:33:38 – 0:33:40] Erik: That’s his Bell Wildfire.
[0:33:40 – 0:33:41] Erik: He still has it.
[0:33:41 – 0:33:42] Erik: Still got it.
[0:33:42 – 0:33:50] Erik: And he just refurbished the wood and made custom deck plates with some of my spalted big leaf maple from Orcas Island, Washington.
[0:33:50 – 0:33:51] Adam: Oh, my God.
[0:33:52 – 0:33:52] Erik: Dang.
[0:33:53 – 0:33:55] Erik: Yeah, that’s sexy.
[0:33:55 – 0:33:57] Adam: I’m a little short of breath.
[0:33:58 – 0:33:58] SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
[0:33:59 – 0:34:00] Erik: Thanks, Paige.
[0:34:00 – 0:34:00] Adam: It’s beautiful.
[0:34:00 – 0:34:01] Adam: He’s a craftsman.
[0:34:02 – 0:34:02] SPEAKER_02: Yes, he is.
[0:34:03 – 0:34:12] Erik: And that was an amazing boat to have out on that Quetico trip, the solo wildfire that was portaged through a wildfire.
[0:34:12 – 0:34:14] Adam: Yeah, a wildfire in a wildfire.
[0:34:14 – 0:34:14] Adam: Yep.
[0:34:14 – 0:34:15] Adam: Still floating.
[0:34:16 – 0:34:17] Adam: Brian’s up next.
[0:34:18 – 0:34:23] Adam: My last few trips have been whatever lightweight Kevlar Eric put me in at Clearwater.
[0:34:24 – 0:34:24] Adam: Smart man.
[0:34:26 – 0:34:26] Adam: Smart man.
[0:34:26 – 0:34:27] Erik: Probably a Coleman.
[0:34:30 – 0:34:31] Erik: The old Coleman.
[0:34:32 – 0:34:36] Erik: Just took a trip in our green Winona Adirondack tough weave, 16 foot.
[0:34:37 – 0:34:40] Erik: We use it because it’s what we own and it floats.
[0:34:40 – 0:34:43] Erik: We got it at a garage sale like 20 years ago and I’ve had it since.
[0:34:44 – 0:34:44] Erik: That’s from Matt.
[0:34:45 – 0:34:45] Erik: Thanks, Matt.
[0:34:46 – 0:34:48] Erik: That’s a nice picture that you attached there.
[0:34:48 – 0:34:55] Erik: That looks very, very suspiciously Vento unit-esque in the background there.
[0:34:55 – 0:34:57] Adam: I know that campsite.
[0:34:57 – 0:34:59] Adam: I just can’t place it.
[0:34:59 – 0:34:59] Adam: I’ve been there.
[0:34:59 – 0:35:00] Erik: I know.
[0:35:00 – 0:35:01] Erik: Is that on Pine?
[0:35:01 – 0:35:03] Erik: Is that on John?
[0:35:05 – 0:35:13] Erik: Well, I have not actually ever been in an Adirondack, but it looks, you know, that’s, I think at the end of the day, if it floats.
[0:35:14 – 0:35:14] Erik: It boats.
[0:35:14 – 0:35:15] Erik: It boats.
[0:35:15 – 0:35:37] Adam: that’s what they say yeah if it floats it boats i love it yeah michael 17 foot grumman my first and only canoe it was cheap and got me in the park on a budget and there’s nothing wrong with the grumman yeah it’s the also it was my first canoe as a grumman and when i first moved up here the staff was only allowed to use the grummins
[0:35:38 – 0:35:39] Erik: Yeah.
[0:35:39 – 0:35:40] Adam: For good reason.
[0:35:41 – 0:35:43] Adam: Now, the staff honestly would take very nice care of them.
[0:35:43 – 0:35:44] Adam: I don’t understand why we weren’t.
[0:35:45 – 0:35:48] Adam: I guess back then they only had like so many Kevlar’s.
[0:35:48 – 0:35:48] Erik: Well, Kevlar’s were.
[0:35:48 – 0:35:49] Adam: They’re all rented out.
[0:35:49 – 0:35:49] Adam: Yeah.
[0:35:50 – 0:35:51] Adam: You’re not allowed to take those.
[0:35:51 – 0:35:53] Adam: We need those in the yard in case somebody shows up.
[0:35:54 – 0:35:58] Erik: Yeah, the Kevlaras were probably not nearly as proliferous as they are today.
[0:35:58 – 0:35:59] Erik: They were rare back then.
[0:35:59 – 0:36:01] Adam: So it was like, hey, staff, you’re young.
[0:36:01 – 0:36:03] Adam: You can take the Grumman’s.
[0:36:03 – 0:36:04] Adam: Go right ahead.
[0:36:05 – 0:36:06] Adam: And we did.
[0:36:06 – 0:36:11] Erik: Yeah, I think you might have some apologizing to do to Michael because he has voices.
[0:36:12 – 0:36:13] Erik: An opinion in the past.
[0:36:14 – 0:36:16] Adam: This is the guy who loves the Grumman’s, obviously.
[0:36:16 – 0:36:21] Erik: He takes a little bit of offense to you disparaging the Grumman constantly.
[0:36:22 – 0:36:25] Adam: I’m lovingly disparaging Grumman’s.
[0:36:25 – 0:36:26] Adam: Let’s make that clear.
[0:36:26 – 0:36:28] Adam: It was my first boat.
[0:36:28 – 0:36:31] Adam: I’m going to save my real boat for the end of the show, but I’ll just get into it right now.
[0:36:32 – 0:36:37] Adam: When I was a youth, we inherited a really big Grumman.
[0:36:37 – 0:36:42] Adam: Like this thing, I’m no joke, this thing weighed 135 pounds.
[0:36:43 – 0:36:46] Adam: Grumman back in World War II made fighter aircraft.
[0:36:46 – 0:36:51] Adam: And I’m convinced that the Grumman canoes of old were made with like the same gauge of aluminum.
[0:36:52 – 0:36:55] Adam: Like this thing could take a machine gun and it would not sink.
[0:36:56 – 0:36:57] Adam: That’s how thick this aluminum was.
[0:36:57 – 0:36:59] Adam: It’s very heavy, very stable.
[0:37:00 – 0:37:03] Adam: Had a keel about three inches long on the bottom of the whole boat.
[0:37:03 – 0:37:06] Adam: You could not tip this thing over if you were doing the tricks from the video last week.
[0:37:06 – 0:37:07] Adam: No, no way.
[0:37:07 – 0:37:08] Adam: You were definitely not doing a triple flip.
[0:37:08 – 0:37:09] Adam: You’re not doing no…
[0:37:09 – 0:37:10] Adam: Shakeout?
[0:37:10 – 0:37:11] Adam: No shakeouts with this thing.
[0:37:11 – 0:37:11] Adam: No.
[0:37:12 – 0:37:12] Adam: It’s sturdy enough for it.
[0:37:13 – 0:37:20] Adam: But I have all the love in the world for a grommet, but it’s just not meant for the types of trips we’re doing in the Boundary Waters these days.
[0:37:20 – 0:37:20] Adam: Yeah.
[0:37:20 – 0:37:21] Adam: For a day trip…
[0:37:22 – 0:37:23] Adam: Just fishing out of it.
[0:37:23 – 0:37:24] Adam: Great boat.
[0:37:24 – 0:37:26] Adam: Nothing but love for a Grumman.
[0:37:26 – 0:37:31] Adam: So, you know, I joke and I kid, but I do love a Grumman.
[0:37:31 – 0:37:32] Erik: Loving the Grumman.
[0:37:32 – 0:37:33] Adam: It’s my first boat.
[0:37:33 – 0:37:35] Adam: My brother still had it up until a little bit ago.
[0:37:35 – 0:37:38] Adam: I believe he traded it finally because he got into it.
[0:37:38 – 0:37:39] Adam: He’s down in…
[0:37:40 – 0:38:05] Erik: wisconsin so he’s doing like big lake fishing with his kayak setup he’s got so he wasn’t using it either i think he ended up trading the grumman for like a compound bow which is honestly a fair trade yeah fair fair trade and i i disparage the grumman because i probably have to hoist a canoe up onto my shoulders like at least a dozen to two dozen times a day that’s why you’re so fit
[0:38:05 – 0:38:07] Erik: And the Grumman, yeah, it’s like…
[0:38:07 – 0:38:11] Erik: It’s the noise that Sideshow Bob makes every time the rake hits him in the face.
[0:38:11 – 0:38:16] Adam: Whenever I see a Grumman, I just… Yeah, we used to call that one…
[0:38:17 – 0:38:17] Adam: It was huge.
[0:38:18 – 0:38:19] Adam: We used to call it the Grumman Battleship.
[0:38:21 – 0:38:26] Adam: It was also… We, at one point, painted the name SS Zebra Muscle on the side of it.
[0:38:27 – 0:38:28] Adam: It grew up in Manitowoc.
[0:38:28 – 0:38:29] Adam: And so, you know…
[0:38:31 – 0:38:33] Erik: It’s a surefire way to get pulled over by the DNR up here.
[0:38:34 – 0:38:39] Adam: The zebra mussels were just becoming a thing down in Lake Michigan at that time of my youth.
[0:38:39 – 0:38:42] Adam: So we thought it was funny and clever to paint that on there.
[0:38:43 – 0:38:49] Adam: No idea where the old SS zebra mussel is at this time, but yeah, a wonderful Grumman canoe.
[0:38:50 – 0:38:51] Adam: And there’s nothing wrong with the Grumman.
[0:38:51 – 0:38:53] Adam: If you can still hoist it and portage it.
[0:38:53 – 0:38:55] Adam: More power to you, Michael.
[0:38:55 – 0:38:56] Erik: Yes, exactly.
[0:38:56 – 0:39:02] Erik: Jason, SR17, that’s Souris River, from an outfitter for the BWCA.
[0:39:03 – 0:39:05] Erik: Super stable and plenty of room.
[0:39:05 – 0:39:09] Erik: At home, it’s the Osage Aluminum on the Missouri Rivers.
[0:39:10 – 0:39:13] Erik: That looks like a pirate flag flying from the otter there.
[0:39:13 – 0:39:14] Adam: Nice.
[0:39:14 – 0:39:17] Adam: Is there like a stuffed animal tied to the front?
[0:39:17 – 0:39:24] Adam: Or is that just a rope of… Yeah, I think it kind of looks like a stuffed alligator or something.
[0:39:24 – 0:39:26] Erik: There’s all kinds of things going on in that canoe.
[0:39:26 – 0:39:27] Adam: Key cord off the front.
[0:39:27 – 0:39:28] Adam: Very intimidating.
[0:39:28 – 0:39:29] Adam: I would not want to run into the otter.
[0:39:29 – 0:39:31] Erik: I would not mess with this guy in Missouri.
[0:39:32 – 0:39:32] Erik: No.
[0:39:33 – 0:39:34] Adam: You shall pass.
[0:39:36 – 0:39:36] Adam: All right.
[0:39:38 – 0:39:39] Adam: We have another comment here from Mike.
[0:39:40 – 0:39:40] Adam: Mike.
[0:39:42 – 0:39:43] Erik: Uh-oh.
[0:39:43 – 0:39:43] Erik: There it is.
[0:39:43 – 0:39:44] Adam: There it is.
[0:39:45 – 0:39:48] Adam: I am currently the proud captain of the elusive and sultry Pearl.
[0:39:49 – 0:39:54] Adam: She is a slender 16-foot Mad River solo canoe crafted in 1984.
[0:39:55 – 0:40:00] Adam: This spectacular watercraft has been passed down through a resoundingly respectable chain of custody.
[0:40:01 – 0:40:01] Adam: Whew!
[0:40:01 – 0:40:01] UNKNOWN: Whew!
[0:40:02 – 0:40:06] Adam: and I aspire to see half the backcountry that elegant vessel has.
[0:40:06 – 0:40:09] Adam: She is light and nimble, yet sturdy enough to weather any storm.
[0:40:10 – 0:40:12] Adam: If I could, I would travel everywhere in that canoe.
[0:40:13 – 0:40:14] Erik: Wow.
[0:40:14 – 0:40:16] Erik: I didn’t give it the like.
[0:40:16 – 0:40:17] Erik: Yeah, you can like that one.
[0:40:17 – 0:40:18] Erik: I just gave it a like.
[0:40:19 – 0:40:20] Adam: Yeah, that’s a fine boat.
[0:40:20 – 0:40:20] Erik: Well said.
[0:40:21 – 0:40:24] Adam: I’ve capsized that boat on the Namakagan River.
[0:40:26 – 0:40:30] Adam: It’s very fast, but it is a little tippy.
[0:40:31 – 0:40:33] Adam: You’re sitting up kind of high.
[0:40:33 – 0:40:34] Adam: It’s very narrow.
[0:40:35 – 0:40:38] Adam: I would sit in that thing, and there’s nothing on either side of you.
[0:40:38 – 0:40:40] Adam: It’s like a toothpick.
[0:40:41 – 0:40:44] Adam: But, yeah, that’s a nice solo canoe you got there, Mike.
[0:40:45 – 0:40:46] Adam: And you should be proud.
[0:40:46 – 0:40:50] Adam: It’s a nice Mad River, and it still has the old Mad River logo up front.
[0:40:50 – 0:40:54] Erik: Yes, we’re proud of you and the smoking bunny.
[0:40:54 – 0:40:57] Erik: There was one other one that was off of Facebook.
[0:40:58 – 0:40:59] Adam: I bumped it.
[0:40:59 – 0:41:02] Adam: I bumped the post after like 10 days.
[0:41:02 – 0:41:03] Adam: I was like, let’s get a few more.
[0:41:04 – 0:41:05] Erik: Yeah, let’s get more.
[0:41:05 – 0:41:06] Adam: We need this to be.
[0:41:06 – 0:41:09] Adam: It started off on like a whole second thread.
[0:41:09 – 0:41:10] Adam: Yeah.
[0:41:10 – 0:41:16] Adam: But we got one more comment on that one that we want to get to on Facebook before we turn it on over to digital Reddit here.
[0:41:16 – 0:41:16] Adam: Digital.
[0:41:17 – 0:41:19] Adam: We got one from Josh.
[0:41:19 – 0:41:21] Adam: Our good friend Josh chimed in.
[0:41:22 – 0:41:24] Adam: My better half owns our BWCA vessel.
[0:41:24 – 0:41:27] Adam: A sleek wooden gunwale went on a sundowner.
[0:41:28 – 0:41:28] Adam: Those are nice.
[0:41:29 – 0:41:35] Adam: But my old canoe is a beast that has survived about as much as Rasputin.
[0:41:35 – 0:41:39] Adam: It’s a 1952 AeroCraft aluminum 17-foot monster.
[0:41:40 – 0:41:44] Adam: It’s stable and durable and has been put through every test.
[0:41:45 – 0:41:48] Adam: In the 60s, it was owned by some southern Wisconsin farmers.
[0:41:48 – 0:41:52] Adam: Their teenage son decided to shoot a hole through the ball with a shotgun.
[0:41:53 – 0:41:53] Adam: Oof.
[0:41:54 – 0:41:58] Adam: Both entry and exit wounds were crudely patched as only an old, annoyed farmer can.
[0:41:59 – 0:42:01] Adam: The daughter of the farmer then adopted the canoe.
[0:42:01 – 0:42:05] Adam: She was influenced by the hippie culture and painted the boat Dayglo Orange.
[0:42:05 – 0:42:07] Adam: Ooh, that’s a nice choice.
[0:42:08 – 0:42:11] Adam: As the years passed, the canoe was forgotten to time in the basement of the barn.
[0:42:13 – 0:42:13] Adam: Oh, man.
[0:42:15 – 0:42:20] Adam: The slapdash paint peeled away and its distinguished gray-worn look finally was complete.
[0:42:21 – 0:42:24] Adam: My eldest brother married into the family and was tasked with cleaning out the barn.
[0:42:25 – 0:42:28] Adam: He gave me the canoe after my beloved high school canoe sank.
[0:42:28 – 0:42:28] Erik: Oh no.
[0:42:29 – 0:42:34] Adam: The canoe’s greatest adventure was a 300-mile solo, plus dog, trip down the Wisconsin River.
[0:42:35 – 0:42:41] Adam: It was punctured in whirlpool rapids and sunk, but I was able to recover and patch it and we finished the trip in 19 days.
[0:42:42 – 0:42:42] Adam: Huzzah, huzzah.
[0:42:44 – 0:42:47] Adam: I don’t think I would ever part with it despite it weighing around 90 pounds.
[0:42:47 – 0:42:48] Adam: That sounds about right.
[0:42:49 – 0:42:50] Adam: Yeah.
[0:42:50 – 0:42:51] Adam: That is a good story.
[0:42:51 – 0:42:53] Adam: Yep.
[0:42:53 – 0:42:54] Erik: Down the Wisconsin River?
[0:42:55 – 0:42:55] Adam: Yeah.
[0:42:55 – 0:42:55] Adam: Jeez.
[0:42:56 – 0:42:59] Adam: I like that he recovered it after it sunk.
[0:42:59 – 0:42:59] Adam: And patched it.
[0:42:59 – 0:43:01] Adam: Still patched it and finished the trip.
[0:43:01 – 0:43:01] Adam: Yeah.
[0:43:01 – 0:43:03] Adam: In a respectable 19 days.
[0:43:03 – 0:43:04] Erik: That’s very respectable.
[0:43:05 – 0:43:06] Erik: And with dog, no less.
[0:43:06 – 0:43:06] Adam: Yeah.
[0:43:07 – 0:43:09] Adam: Yeah, I remember when he did that trip, seeing the pictures.
[0:43:09 – 0:43:10] Adam: It was very nice.
[0:43:11 – 0:43:12] Adam: Thank you for that comment, Josh.
[0:43:14 – 0:43:19] Adam: Well, shall we get to digital Reddit?
[0:43:20 – 0:43:21] Adam: We have a lot more to get to.
[0:43:21 – 0:43:23] Adam: We’re going to keep it going on the boat show.
[0:43:25 – 0:43:27] Erik: Pew, pew, pew, pew, pew.
[0:43:27 – 0:43:28] Erik: Digital Reddit.
[0:43:29 – 0:43:30] Erik: Hey, we’re on the internet.
[0:43:33 – 0:43:35] Adam: Boat show continuing.
[0:43:35 – 0:43:38] Adam: That one needs a little work, but I like the basis of it.
[0:43:38 – 0:43:40] Erik: Yeah, we’re still learning.
[0:43:40 – 0:43:41] Adam: Laser noises.
[0:43:42 – 0:43:42] Erik: Not our forte.
[0:43:42 – 0:43:43] Adam: That’s Reddit.
[0:43:44 – 0:43:45] Adam: All right.
[0:43:45 – 0:43:46] Adam: Who’s up?
[0:43:46 – 0:43:46] Adam: Am I up?
[0:43:47 – 0:43:47] Adam: Sure.
[0:43:47 – 0:43:48] Adam: You’re up.
[0:43:48 – 0:43:48] Adam: Yeah.
[0:43:48 – 0:43:49] Adam: Holy moly.
[0:43:50 – 0:43:50] Adam: Hot dog.
[0:43:50 – 0:43:53] Adam: Question of the week.
[0:43:54 – 0:43:55] Erik: Robobooler?
[0:43:56 – 0:44:20] Adam: robobular 10 points it’s gotta mean something 10 points for robobular boom rental kevlar canoe hard to justify two thousand dollars plus when i can get out a couple times a year and pay forty dollars a day for a super nice relatively new rental and i don’t feel as bad if i hit a rock or i’m pushing it through branches or poorly maintained portage
[0:44:22 – 0:44:41] Adam: uh yeah a lot of truth there those are i said you should feel bad those are outfitter canoes happens that’s why they’re outfitter canoes though right i’m just joking yeah no um yeah hard to argue with the uh the logic of that response yeah probably why it has twice as many points as anybody else on this thread
[0:44:42 – 0:44:42] Erik: Yeah.
[0:44:42 – 0:44:43] Erik: No, that makes sense.
[0:44:43 – 0:44:46] Erik: I mean, that’s the thing we rent the most still are the canoes.
[0:44:46 – 0:44:52] Erik: The Kevlar canoes, if it was me, very hard to justify buying a brand new one.
[0:44:53 – 0:44:53] Adam: Yeah.
[0:44:53 – 0:44:55] Adam: How many trips do you have to do to pay it off?
[0:44:55 – 0:45:01] Erik: You probably have to do – I mean, if you go once a year on a four-day trip, you have to go for – Is that really 40 a day?
[0:45:01 – 0:45:03] Adam: Is that accurate?
[0:45:03 – 0:45:04] Erik: 46 a day at Clearwater.
[0:45:04 – 0:45:06] Erik: I don’t know where he’s getting that screaming deal.
[0:45:06 – 0:45:07] Erik: Yeah.
[0:45:07 – 0:45:07] Adam: He or she.
[0:45:08 – 0:45:09] Adam: Probably up in Anacokan.
[0:45:09 – 0:45:09] Adam: Is he a rob there?
[0:45:10 – 0:45:11] Adam: Yeah.
[0:45:11 – 0:45:12] Adam: He’s talking Canadian dollars.
[0:45:12 – 0:45:13] Adam: Yeah.
[0:45:13 – 0:45:14] Adam: It’s an exchange rate difference here.
[0:45:15 – 0:45:17] Erik: Yeah, I mean, you’d have to go for like 10 years straight.
[0:45:19 – 0:45:19] Erik: One trip a year.
[0:45:19 – 0:45:20] Erik: And then there’s the hauling it.
[0:45:21 – 0:45:22] Erik: The hauling it up is stressful.
[0:45:22 – 0:45:22] Erik: Yeah.
[0:45:22 – 0:45:23] Adam: The storing of it.
[0:45:23 – 0:45:26] Adam: What about the pride, though, in having it that’s yours?
[0:45:26 – 0:45:27] Adam: Yeah, there’s that.
[0:45:27 – 0:45:28] Adam: You can pass that down.
[0:45:28 – 0:45:30] Adam: A Kevlar canoe is not going to last 10 years.
[0:45:30 – 0:45:31] Adam: That should last you a lifetime.
[0:45:31 – 0:45:37] Erik: Yeah, if it’s not in an outfitter, but in the hands of a personal owner, yeah, it would last a lifetime for sure.
[0:45:37 – 0:45:40] Adam: Yeah, it’s buy it for life kind of philosophy, but I get it.
[0:45:40 – 0:45:41] Adam: Because, yeah, you just keep getting the new one.
[0:45:42 – 0:45:43] Adam: It’s like leasing.
[0:45:43 – 0:45:43] Adam: Yeah.
[0:45:44 – 0:45:46] Adam: You know, some people like to have the newest one.
[0:45:47 – 0:45:47] Erik: Yeah.
[0:45:47 – 0:45:49] Adam: And there’s something to be said for that.
[0:45:49 – 0:45:49] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:45:50 – 0:45:51] Adam: I don’t feel like I can argue with this logic.
[0:45:52 – 0:45:55] Erik: No, I don’t think, you know, for most people that paddle once a year, that makes sense.
[0:45:56 – 0:45:58] Adam: Robobular, 10 points.
[0:45:58 – 0:45:59] Adam: Robobular.
[0:45:59 – 0:46:02] Erik: One digital Reddit.
[0:46:02 – 0:46:03] Adam: Too many vowels in there.
[0:46:03 – 0:46:04] Adam: It’s like gogebic.
[0:46:04 – 0:46:05] Adam: Robobular.
[0:46:05 – 0:46:06] Adam: Gogebic.
[0:46:06 – 0:46:06] Adam: Gosh.
[0:46:08 – 0:46:09] Adam: Anyhow.
[0:46:09 – 0:46:09] Erik: Moving on.
[0:46:09 – 0:46:10] Erik: 6-3-H-Z-V-2.
[0:46:13 – 0:46:17] Erik: Call me old-fashioned, but I loves me a 17-foot Grumman.
[0:46:18 – 0:46:19] Erik: Call it masochistic if you must.
[0:46:20 – 0:46:25] Erik: I was introduced to the BWCA through a YMCA camp where old Grummans were the only option.
[0:46:26 – 0:46:28] Erik: I remember the first shrimp I went on.
[0:46:28 – 0:46:29] Erik: The canoe I had…
[0:46:31 – 0:46:37] Erik: It had an old Quetico registration sticker from 1969.
[0:46:37 – 0:46:39] Erik: But those were cool stickers.
[0:46:39 – 0:46:40] Erik: I need to see a picture of that.
[0:46:41 – 0:46:46] Erik: I may be misremembering the exact year, but man, was that an old boat.
[0:46:47 – 0:46:49] Erik: Vented and beat to hell.
[0:46:50 – 0:46:52] Erik: Still was nice and balanced and paddled straight.
[0:46:54 – 0:46:55] Erik: I love boats with a keel of any size.
[0:46:55 – 0:46:59] Erik: They make windy days so much easier, and they just track straighter.
[0:47:00 – 0:47:04] Erik: I’ve never had a problem with a leak in an aluminum canoe, and they can take a hell of a beating.
[0:47:05 – 0:47:13] Erik: When it’s me and the boys out on a trip, we’ll usually stick to Grumman’s, partially because we can usually borrow them from the aforementioned summer camp.
[0:47:14 – 0:47:21] Erik: But I think I’ve decided the next time I’m out with the GF, we’ll be renting a Kevlar so she can portage too.
[0:47:23 – 0:47:23] Adam: Yeah.
[0:47:23 – 0:47:25] Adam: There is love out there for the Grumman.
[0:47:25 – 0:47:25] Adam: Yeah.
[0:47:25 – 0:47:28] Adam: There are pros and cons to every boat.
[0:47:28 – 0:47:32] Adam: I’m a little troubled that somebody out there thought I actually didn’t like Grumman’s.
[0:47:32 – 0:47:34] Adam: I thought I was being playful.
[0:47:36 – 0:47:36] Erik: Yeah.
[0:47:36 – 0:47:37] Erik: I think you were being playful.
[0:47:37 – 0:47:42] Adam: I was being a little nostalgic and playful, but maybe a little too mean to the old Grumman’s.
[0:47:42 – 0:47:43] Adam: They are a fine boat.
[0:47:43 – 0:47:43] Adam: They are.
[0:47:44 – 0:47:45] Adam: Get some more Grumman love.
[0:47:45 – 0:47:46] Erik: More Grumman love.
[0:47:46 – 0:47:52] Erik: I think, yeah, the length of the show may not allow us to read every response.
[0:47:52 – 0:47:55] Adam: You can’t read every response to every post.
[0:47:55 – 0:47:59] Adam: But, yeah, suffice it to say, there’s a lot of Grumman love out there, and rightly so.
[0:47:59 – 0:48:00] Erik: Loving the Grumman.
[0:48:00 – 0:48:03] Adam: Next up is Rojo Ryder, friend of the show.
[0:48:03 – 0:48:04] Adam: Five points.
[0:48:05 – 0:48:15] Adam: Old Town Penobscot 17, made with the Royal X. I got this canoe because it has a good balance of weight, durability, and versatility, at least for my needs.
[0:48:15 – 0:48:21] Adam: I can use this boat in the BWCA or for a river trip with some rapids where you would not want to bring Kevlar.
[0:48:21 – 0:48:24] Adam: Although those light Kevlar boats look more enticing…
[0:48:27 – 0:48:28] Erik: Record scratch sound effect.
[0:48:29 – 0:48:32] Adam: Although those light Kevlar boats look more enticing every year.
[0:48:33 – 0:48:36] Adam: So who knows what boats my future holds.
[0:48:36 – 0:48:37] Adam: That’s a good attitude to have.
[0:48:38 – 0:48:43] Adam: The boat you have this year is not necessarily the boat of the future.
[0:48:43 – 0:48:45] Erik: What boats my future holds.
[0:48:45 – 0:48:46] Adam: What boats my future holds.
[0:48:47 – 0:48:48] Adam: It sounds like the start of a sonnet.
[0:48:49 – 0:48:49] Erik: Yes, it does.
[0:48:50 – 0:48:53] Erik: You can turn those Penobscots backwards and paddle them solo real nice too.
[0:48:53 – 0:48:54] Erik: I remember that.
[0:48:54 – 0:48:59] Erik: One of my first trips going out in the morning and flipping it around and just doing some solo fishing.
[0:48:59 – 0:49:01] Adam: I used to do that with that old Grumman back when I was younger.
[0:49:03 – 0:49:10] Adam: The front seat would kind of be lowered down a little bit more in there, so you’d have to put like two seat pads, flotation, you know.
[0:49:11 – 0:49:12] Erik: Seat cushions.
[0:49:12 – 0:49:13] Adam: They’re throwable.
[0:49:13 – 0:49:22] Adam: Yeah, if you double stack those up, then you’d be high enough up sitting backwards in the front seat where you’d have enough leverage to really get around, do some bluegilling.
[0:49:22 – 0:49:23] Erik: Do some bluegilling.
[0:49:23 – 0:49:24] Adam: Do some breaming.
[0:49:25 – 0:49:28] Erik: Hot bream action coming from Do042.
[0:49:29 – 0:49:32] Erik: Suras River, Cuetico 17 in Kevlar.
[0:49:32 – 0:49:33] Erik: Sold.
[0:49:33 – 0:49:34] Erik: It has a gel coat.
[0:49:34 – 0:49:34] Erik: Cruiser blue.
[0:49:35 – 0:49:35] Erik: Awesome.
[0:49:35 – 0:49:36] Erik: Cruiser blue.
[0:49:37 – 0:49:38] Erik: As such, her name is Blue.
[0:49:38 – 0:49:39] Erik: Oh, that makes sense.
[0:49:39 – 0:49:40] Erik: That checks out.
[0:49:40 – 0:49:41] Erik: Thank you for sharing the name of your boat.
[0:49:41 – 0:49:42] Erik: I love that.
[0:49:43 – 0:49:43] Erik: Yeah.
[0:49:43 – 0:49:49] Erik: Bought circa 1999 from our outfitter after renting it for a woodland caribou trip.
[0:49:49 – 0:49:49] Erik: Tell me more.
[0:49:50 – 0:49:53] Erik: Taking a canoe and gear on a train is a blast.
[0:49:53 – 0:49:53] Erik: Woo!
[0:49:53 – 0:50:18] Erik: i don’t know is there a hash train going to woodland caribou slash s after that i can’t tell if that’s sarcastic or not but i think that would be fun it’s a battleship classic design and happiest when weighed down with 500 pounds of cargo human or otherwise tough efficient and stable when full still kicking after two decades with only one repainting and now on its second set of skid plates
[0:50:19 – 0:50:23] Erik: First set was OEM and brass affixed with rivets.
[0:50:24 – 0:50:24] Erik: Apparently not great.
[0:50:25 – 0:50:28] Erik: And now has a Kevlar felt slash epoxy.
[0:50:29 – 0:50:34] Erik: Got a new set of nose cones and Amsteel loops last year too.
[0:50:35 – 0:50:36] Erik: Wow.
[0:50:36 – 0:50:37] Erik: Throwing all kinds of crazy…
[0:50:38 – 0:50:38] Erik: This guy…
[0:50:39 – 0:50:41] Erik: Dude, start your own podcast.
[0:50:42 – 0:50:46] Erik: While we’re on the topic, I’ll admit to swamping this vessel.
[0:50:46 – 0:50:48] Erik: It was empty on the launch.
[0:50:48 – 0:50:49] Erik: It was October.
[0:50:50 – 0:50:51] Erik: It was on rows.
[0:50:51 – 0:50:54] Erik: It was a memorably cold experience.
[0:50:55 – 0:50:57] Erik: The front party still blames the rear party.
[0:50:57 – 0:50:58] Erik: I’ll say no more.
[0:50:58 – 0:50:59] Adam: I love that sentence.
[0:50:59 – 0:51:00] Adam: That’s hilarious.
[0:51:00 – 0:51:03] Erik: I’d love to hear swamping stories from others.
[0:51:04 – 0:51:06] Adam: Don’t we all love to hear swamping stories?
[0:51:06 – 0:51:07] Adam: It’ll be nice.
[0:51:09 – 0:51:11] Erik: The doldrums of winter.
[0:51:12 – 0:51:17] Erik: This week on Tumblr, we’re talking swamping stories.
[0:51:17 – 0:51:23] Adam: You know, you’ve had the canoe a long time when you’re like talking about all the like repairs and updates you’ve made to it.
[0:51:24 – 0:51:30] Erik: Multiple repaints, multiple fixations of rivets and OEM.
[0:51:30 – 0:51:31] Erik: Yeah.
[0:51:32 – 0:51:32] Erik: Whatever that is.
[0:51:32 – 0:51:35] Adam: Part of the, you know, if you’ve like replaced a, you know,
[0:51:37 – 0:51:43] Adam: portage pads or a yoke or a seat in a canoe, you know, then it really is, it becomes your own more.
[0:51:43 – 0:51:50] Adam: Also, you just know that it’s a great feeling to have a boat in your quiver.
[0:51:50 – 0:51:51] Adam: Yes, nice.
[0:51:51 – 0:51:55] Erik: I was going to say a repertoire, and you really outdid me with quiver.
[0:51:55 – 0:51:55] Erik: Yeah.
[0:51:55 – 0:52:00] Erik: That would imply that you have a lot of boats, though, but still, you can only have one arrow if it works best.
[0:52:00 – 0:52:03] Adam: Yeah, if you know where it’s going every time.
[0:52:03 – 0:52:06] Erik: If it shoots straight and true and you know you can find it.
[0:52:06 – 0:52:06] Adam: Yeah.
[0:52:06 – 0:52:07] Adam: Yeah.
[0:52:07 – 0:52:10] Adam: So, anyways, thank you for sharing and do.
[0:52:10 – 0:52:13] Adam: Next up, Leroy218, three points.
[0:52:14 – 0:52:21] Adam: For joy of paddling in a range of conditions, my 2003 Bell Northwind 17 in Kev Crystal.
[0:52:22 – 0:52:29] Adam: For covering the distance on mileage-crushing trips, my 1999 Min 2, 18.5 in Kevlar gel coat.
[0:52:29 – 0:52:31] Adam: What color is that gel coat, though?
[0:52:31 – 0:52:32] Erik: Cruiser blue.
[0:52:34 – 0:52:54] Erik: my winona advantage when i can’t find partners or for training after work training yeah you gotta keep the gotta keep them shoulders loose you’ve ever seen those canoes those racing canoes where there’s a little button that you can put your foot down and it’ll release water that you have taken on yeah like you have to be paddling at like racer speed for that to work
[0:52:54 – 0:52:57] Adam: Man, do you remember in the last Olympics, the canoe?
[0:52:57 – 0:53:00] Adam: I mean, they literally look like these guys are paddling toothpicks.
[0:53:00 – 0:53:02] Adam: Yeah.
[0:53:02 – 0:53:04] Adam: It makes those stand-up paddle boards look enormous.
[0:53:05 – 0:53:05] Erik: Well, yeah.
[0:53:05 – 0:53:10] Adam: It’s like a little tiny stand-up paddle board that they’re just standing on and paddling as fast as they can.
[0:53:10 – 0:53:11] Adam: Yeah.
[0:53:11 – 0:53:19] Erik: Yeah, you jump out of a Minnesota 2 and onto a stand-up paddleboard, it feels like you went from paddling a canoe to just standing on like a pallet.
[0:53:20 – 0:53:20] Erik: Yeah.
[0:53:20 – 0:53:21] Erik: Slowly sinking.
[0:53:22 – 0:53:24] Adam: Yeah, those Olympic canoes, they’re not canoes.
[0:53:25 – 0:53:25] Erik: No.
[0:53:25 – 0:53:26] Adam: There, I said it.
[0:53:26 – 0:53:27] Erik: There, it’s been said.
[0:53:28 – 0:53:29] Erik: We’re on the record.
[0:53:29 – 0:53:35] Erik: MU, Luke 04, Old Town Discovery 174.
[0:53:35 – 0:53:38] Erik: The thing is damn near bulletproof, but heavy.
[0:53:39 – 0:53:40] Erik: I’ll take the durability, though.
[0:53:41 – 0:53:45] Erik: Great river canoe on the spring-fed rivers in the Missouri Ozarks.
[0:53:45 – 0:53:48] Erik: Decent enough for fishing on lakes and farm ponds around Kansas City.
[0:53:49 – 0:53:50] Erik: Gets the job done in the BWCA.
[0:53:52 – 0:53:55] Erik: I’m convinced it could be filled with concrete and still float.
[0:53:55 – 0:53:56] Erik: Sounds about right.
[0:53:56 – 0:53:58] Erik: Well, we are fans of doing some field testing up here.
[0:53:58 – 0:54:04] Erik: Bring your muck boots, bring your old town discovery, and bring a few bags of quick greet.
[0:54:04 – 0:54:04] Erik: Yeah.
[0:54:04 – 0:54:05] Erik: Let’s do it.
[0:54:05 – 0:54:06] Erik: Let’s do it, M.U.
[0:54:06 – 0:54:06] Erik: Luke.
[0:54:08 – 0:54:10] Adam: Croaky two, three points.
[0:54:10 – 0:54:13] Adam: Mad River Horizon, 18 foot in Kevlar.
[0:54:13 – 0:54:15] Adam: Moves quickly across the lakes.
[0:54:15 – 0:54:18] Adam: Plenty of room for gear and doesn’t make portages a chore.
[0:54:18 – 0:54:21] Adam: That’s all we’re really looking for right there.
[0:54:22 – 0:54:23] Erik: Yeah.
[0:54:23 – 0:54:26] Adam: I wish more people would have included the names of their canoes.
[0:54:26 – 0:54:28] Adam: The ones that, like, hey, this is the name.
[0:54:28 – 0:54:31] Adam: You don’t even have to explain the name of the canoe, but I just want to know what the…
[0:54:32 – 0:54:36] Adam: If we could re-ask the question at this point into the show, I would be like, tell me about your boat.
[0:54:37 – 0:54:39] Adam: Also, what’s the name of the boat?
[0:54:40 – 0:54:40] Adam: Where’d you get it?
[0:54:41 – 0:54:45] Adam: More details, the better, but nothing wrong with a Mad River Horizon 18-foot.
[0:54:45 – 0:54:47] Adam: That is a fine boat, Croaky.
[0:54:47 – 0:54:48] Adam: Thank you.
[0:54:49 – 0:54:49] Erik: Croaky.
[0:54:50 – 0:54:51] Erik: Hopalicious coming in.
[0:54:52 – 0:54:54] Erik: An old Winona two-person Kevlar canoe.
[0:54:55 – 0:54:56] Erik: No model.
[0:54:56 – 0:54:58] Erik: It could just be the original Winona.
[0:54:58 – 0:54:59] Erik: Winona.
[0:54:59 – 0:55:00] Erik: The 17-foot version.
[0:55:01 – 0:55:02] Erik: The original.
[0:55:02 – 0:55:02] Erik: The OG.
[0:55:03 – 0:55:05] Erik: Are you paddling an OG, Hopalicious?
[0:55:06 – 0:55:09] Erik: It’s been scraped, patched, and in the field duct taped.
[0:55:10 – 0:55:14] Erik: No real reason why I use it other than it’s accessible and refuses to sink.
[0:55:14 – 0:55:15] Erik: It’s a good trait in a boat.
[0:55:16 – 0:55:17] Erik: Oh, he’s throwing some questions back at us here.
[0:55:17 – 0:55:19] Erik: Also, why no Twitter account?
[0:55:19 – 0:55:21] Erik: You have all the social medias except the Twitter.
[0:55:22 – 0:55:22] Adam: Twitter’s junk.
[0:55:23 – 0:55:23] Adam: Wow.
[0:55:24 – 0:55:26] Adam: I was on Twitter for a long time and I quit it.
[0:55:26 – 0:55:27] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:55:27 – 0:55:27] Adam: Because it’s garbage.
[0:55:28 – 0:55:32] Erik: I mean, I don’t know if our format really lends itself to Twitter.
[0:55:32 – 0:55:36] Adam: I’m not online all day like I used to be back in the office job.
[0:55:37 – 0:55:38] Adam: I can’t keep up with it all.
[0:55:38 – 0:55:39] Adam: Something had to go.
[0:55:40 – 0:55:41] Adam: Twitter had to go.
[0:55:41 – 0:55:44] Adam: Honestly, I used to brag that you don’t need bookmarks.
[0:55:45 – 0:55:47] Adam: Just follow your favorite websites on Twitter.
[0:55:48 – 0:55:49] Adam: That’s your bookmarks.
[0:55:49 – 0:56:11] Adam: yeah i mean i don’t know there’s just too many rabbit holes you end up going down and too many jerks too many yeah i don’t know how many like how many comments would just be like it’s not wholesome enough it’s not wholesome it seems like it’s kind of i don’t know i mean we’re on facebook well we’re not on myspace either so well facebook like our space on facebook is not it’s it’s wholesome yeah it’s good we keep it wholesome
[0:56:11 – 0:56:13] Adam: Yeah, you can’t be everywhere at once.
[0:56:13 – 0:56:14] Erik: Yeah, I don’t know.
[0:56:14 – 0:56:16] Erik: We try our best, Topalicious.
[0:56:16 – 0:56:19] Erik: I never really even considered Twitter as being applicable.
[0:56:19 – 0:56:21] Adam: You should quit Twitter and join the gram.
[0:56:21 – 0:56:21] Adam: Come on.
[0:56:23 – 0:56:25] Erik: Yeah, I mean, this is a good question, though.
[0:56:26 – 0:56:30] Erik: And, I mean, it has been very close to being sponsored.
[0:56:30 – 0:56:36] Erik: But finally, you’re closing in on 30 episodes, yet not one has been sponsored by Grain Belt Premium.
[0:56:37 – 0:56:40] Erik: It’s the rusty, penniest tasting beer in the whole Midwest.
[0:56:41 – 0:56:42] Erik: Kirkland Light is a distant second.
[0:56:43 – 0:56:44] Erik: It deserves a proper sponsorship.
[0:56:44 – 0:56:50] Erik: Yes, it does, Hopalicious, and we are saving it for a proper episode, like 50 or 100.
[0:56:50 – 0:56:52] Adam: I believe we have plugged the grain belt.
[0:56:52 – 0:56:55] Adam: It came out with a blueberry lager this summer.
[0:56:55 – 0:56:55] Adam: Yes, that was mentioned.
[0:56:55 – 0:56:56] Adam: I believe we plugged it.
[0:56:56 – 0:56:58] Adam: I don’t know if it was sponsored.
[0:56:58 – 0:57:00] Adam: I don’t think they sponsored us.
[0:57:00 – 0:57:01] Erik: No, you mentioned it.
[0:57:01 – 0:57:02] Adam: I was drinking one on an episode.
[0:57:02 Р0:57:05] Erik: That was the episode we were sponsored by Surly Ros̩.
[0:57:05 – 0:57:06] Adam: Yeah, it was.
[0:57:06 – 0:57:09] Adam: We were drinking it while we were out golfing.
[0:57:10 – 0:57:12] Erik: I mean, I grew up on Grain Belts.
[0:57:12 – 0:57:17] Erik: That deserves like an episode 50 or episode 100.
[0:57:17 – 0:57:20] Adam: We have not been sponsored by Ham Special Light.
[0:57:20 – 0:57:22] Erik: Grain Belts Premium.
[0:57:22 – 0:57:25] Erik: We don’t even grow hops in this county.
[0:57:25 – 0:57:27] Adam: We don’t get hops close to this beer.
[0:57:27 – 0:57:30] Adam: The sweetest, penniest beer.
[0:57:30 – 0:57:30] Adam: It has been noted.
[0:57:31 – 0:57:31] Erik: Thanks, Hopalicious.
[0:57:32 – 0:57:34] Adam: Northbound paddler, two points.
[0:57:35 – 0:57:38] Adam: For the solo expeditions, last rental I took was a Northstar Magic.
[0:57:39 – 0:57:40] Adam: That’s a good boat.
[0:57:40 – 0:57:44] Adam: I’m still trying to figure out what I have to sell to get funds to buy one.
[0:57:46 – 0:57:49] Adam: A tow with nail polish.
[0:57:50 – 0:57:51] Adam: You have to sell a tow.
[0:57:52 – 0:57:54] Erik: Who’s needing a tow?
[0:57:55 – 0:57:56] Adam: I can get you a tow by 3 p.m.
[0:57:58 – 0:58:02] Erik: I don’t think there’s much value in an individual cut toe.
[0:58:04 – 0:58:07] Erik: Unless it’s the cut toe of a ransom child.
[0:58:07 – 0:58:10] Adam: I’m going to have to cut this part.
[0:58:11 – 0:58:11] Adam: No, no, no.
[0:58:11 – 0:58:12] Adam: We’re good.
[0:58:12 – 0:58:13] Erik: We’re good.
[0:58:14 – 0:58:14] Adam: But I don’t know.
[0:58:14 – 0:58:15] Adam: You don’t have to sell much.
[0:58:15 – 0:58:17] Adam: You just got to be in the right place at the right time.
[0:58:17 – 0:58:18] Adam: It’s often about who you know.
[0:58:18 – 0:58:24] Adam: If you’re going to find yourself a solo canoe, it’s really just got to keep your ears peeled.
[0:58:24 – 0:58:26] Adam: One will come to you when the time is right.
[0:58:26 – 0:58:27] Adam: Let’s put it that way.
[0:58:28 – 0:58:29] Erik: Yeah, that’s very true.
[0:58:29 – 0:58:31] Erik: You just have to manifest that.
[0:58:31 – 0:58:32] Adam: The boat will show itself.
[0:58:33 – 0:58:34] Adam: It will reveal itself to you.
[0:58:35 – 0:58:37] Adam: I really do believe that.
[0:58:37 – 0:58:39] Adam: Any canoe I’ve ever gotten, I didn’t really seek it out.
[0:58:40 – 0:58:41] Adam: It sought me out.
[0:58:42 – 0:58:42] Adam: Does that make sense?
[0:58:42 – 0:58:43] Erik: Yeah.
[0:58:44 – 0:58:45] Adam: So stick with it.
[0:58:45 – 0:58:46] Erik: Unfortunately, we can’t just end it there.
[0:58:47 – 0:58:47] Adam: That was nice.
[0:58:48 – 0:58:49] Adam: We’ll have to do some creative editing.
[0:58:50 – 0:58:51] Erik: Some very creative editing.
[0:58:53 – 0:58:54] Erik: Sweet, sweet can.
[0:58:54 – 0:58:56] Erik: Freshcoast underscore Orca.
[0:58:57 – 0:59:01] Erik: The real question may be, what do you like to sit on?
[0:59:02 – 0:59:04] Erik: Yeah, this could be a question.
[0:59:05 – 0:59:10] Erik: The plastic bucket seat, webbing, a crazy creek, the classic Coleman backrest.
[0:59:11 – 0:59:16] Erik: Personally, I prefer no backrest paddling in a beautiful Kevlar Minnesota 2 or 3 from the Outfitter.
[0:59:16 – 0:59:19] Erik: There’s nothing like the sun coming through Kevlar canoes.
[0:59:20 – 0:59:25] Erik: They’re lighter and I prefer the sound of portage branches scraping against Kevlar rather than metal.
[0:59:27 – 0:59:28] Erik: But not hating Kevlar.
[0:59:28 – 0:59:30] Erik: Any canoe is a blessed companion.
[0:59:31 – 0:59:33] Adam: Fresh Coast, you really…
[0:59:34 – 0:59:36] Erik: Very magnanimous in this response here.
[0:59:36 – 0:59:45] Erik: To relate to last week’s tipping topic, the only time in 20 years that I’ve tipped was when my sister dropped bug spray in the water and reached over to grab it as it reflexed.
[0:59:45 – 0:59:46] Erik: Just let it go.
[0:59:46 – 0:59:50] Erik: The downward momentum on the gunwale sent us overboard.
[0:59:50 – 0:59:51] Erik: Fortunately, we were close to shore.
[0:59:52 – 0:59:54] Erik: I was surprised at how easily and fast it happened.
[0:59:55 – 1:00:01] Erik: I tell my fellow riders never to tuck their feet cross-legged under the seat in case of a tip and they get caught up.
[1:00:03 – 1:00:08] Erik: Yeah, the what do you like to sit on question would be good.
[1:00:09 – 1:00:10] Adam: I prefer the webbed seat.
[1:00:11 – 1:00:15] Erik: Yeah, I don’t purchase any bucket seats anymore because most people don’t like them.
[1:00:15 – 1:00:19] Adam: Yeah, I don’t hate the bucket seats, but I just like the webbed seat better.
[1:00:20 – 1:00:30] Erik: I like the web seat, but I also don’t like, like Fresh Coast Orca says, I’m not a huge fan of the crazy creek or backrest in the canoe.
[1:00:31 – 1:00:34] Erik: Like when I’m paddling, I don’t find myself like leaning back.
[1:00:34 – 1:00:37] Erik: Maybe if I’m out on like a fishing trip where I’m just sitting.
[1:00:38 – 1:00:38] Adam: Yeah.
[1:00:38 – 1:00:39] Adam: But even then.
[1:00:39 – 1:00:41] Adam: I do carry a crazy creek.
[1:00:41 – 1:00:46] Adam: in the Duluth bag, but I just set it up in camp and use it to sitting around the fire.
[1:00:46 – 1:00:52] Erik: You haul out a two by three foot gray piece of fabric with like a strap attached to it.
[1:00:52 – 1:00:55] Adam: One pole left in there somewhere floating around.
[1:00:56 – 1:00:57] Adam: Yeah.
[1:00:57 – 1:01:04] Adam: Blow Zephyr two points, 17 foot cedar stripper made by yours truly because I’m a masochist.
[1:01:04 – 1:01:05] Erik: That makes two.
[1:01:06 – 1:01:06] Erik: Yeah.
[1:01:07 – 1:01:11] Erik: You and the fellow Grumman paddlers.
[1:01:12 – 1:01:15] Adam: Made with your own hand, though, like that.
[1:01:15 – 1:01:16] Erik: That’s cool.
[1:01:16 – 1:01:17] Erik: That’s awesome.
[1:01:17 – 1:01:18] Erik: That was a short one.
[1:01:18 – 1:01:19] Erik: Do you want to do Muddyfoot?
[1:01:19 – 1:01:20] Adam: Yeah, I’ll keep going.
[1:01:20 – 1:01:22] Adam: Muddyfoot 10-22, two points as well.
[1:01:23 – 1:01:27] Adam: Sold my Mad River 16-foot Explorer years ago and totally regretted it.
[1:01:28 – 1:01:29] Adam: Yeah, it’s hard to let a canoe go.
[1:01:29 – 1:01:30] Adam: I know.
[1:01:30 – 1:01:31] Adam: I’ve been there.
[1:01:31 – 1:01:36] Adam: It’s like, well, sometimes it’s the right choice, but you always miss a canoe when it’s no longer part of your quiver.
[1:01:37 – 1:01:39] Adam: Sorry, we’ll get back to the comment here.
[1:01:40 – 1:01:47] Adam: Then this spring, I found my dream boat on Craigslist, a 17-foot Mad River Explorer duck hunter model in Royal X.
[1:01:47 – 1:01:54] Adam: She’s a butte with slotted ash gunwales and cane seeds.
[1:01:54 – 1:01:56] Adam: Looks as good as she handles.
[1:01:56 – 1:01:57] Adam: The story behind her is.
[1:01:57 – 1:01:58] Adam: Oh, good.
[1:01:58 – 1:02:00] Adam: We’re going to get the story.
[1:02:00 – 1:02:04] Adam: Let me moisten the whistle.
[1:02:04 – 1:02:04] Adam: Yeah.
[1:02:05 – 1:02:06] Adam: I’ve been messing up a lot.
[1:02:06 – 1:02:06] Erik: Yep.
[1:02:06 – 1:02:07] Erik: You need more Montucky.
[1:02:09 – 1:02:10] Adam: I need a cold snack.
[1:02:10 – 1:02:11] Erik: Unofficial sponsor.
[1:02:11 – 1:02:15] Adam: The story behind her is, I contacted the older original owner to look at it.
[1:02:16 – 1:02:17] Adam: Knew I wanted it.
[1:02:17 – 1:02:19] Adam: Price was acceptable, but higher than I wanted to pay.
[1:02:19 – 1:02:21] Adam: The reason this gentleman was selling was his age.
[1:02:21 – 1:02:25] Adam: He said at 73 it was too much on his knees and shoulders.
[1:02:25 – 1:02:27] Adam: I tried to get the boat at my price.
[1:02:27 – 1:02:28] Adam: He said no.
[1:02:29 – 1:02:32] Adam: We talked canoeing, fishing, camping for a long time.
[1:02:32 – 1:02:34] Adam: I left knowing I lost out on a sweet boat.
[1:02:35 – 1:02:35] Adam: But…
[1:02:35 – 1:02:44] Adam: The next day, he called me back and said he didn’t need the money, but wanted to pass along the boat to me so I could build the memories with my son as he did with his.
[1:02:45 – 1:02:51] Adam: Canoeing and fishing and traveling up in the BWCA in Quetico and the UP were the highlight memories of his life, he said.
[1:02:52 – 1:02:59] Adam: So I bought it and promised to take as much pride in it as he did and look forward to our first trip in the Boundary Waters this fall.
[1:03:01 – 1:03:05] Adam: Thanks for your super cool podcast from down here in the Buckeye State.
[1:03:05 – 1:03:07] Adam: It makes daydreaming at work even better.
[1:03:07 – 1:03:08] Adam: Oh, my God.
[1:03:08 – 1:03:09] Adam: Thanks.
[1:03:09 – 1:03:11] Adam: Somebody give this guy gold.
[1:03:11 – 1:03:14] Adam: Our friend Muddyfoot1022 needs gold.
[1:03:15 – 1:03:15] Adam: Great story.
[1:03:15 – 1:03:18] Adam: He or she deserved more than two points.
[1:03:18 – 1:03:25] Adam: We’ve just awarded another point, but I think we can also probably add another four or five points onto that answer.
[1:03:25 – 1:03:28] Adam: That was very, very nicely done.
[1:03:29 – 1:03:29] Erik: Yeah.
[1:03:29 – 1:03:31] Erik: No, appreciate that write-in.
[1:03:31 – 1:03:32] Erik: That story is great.
[1:03:33 – 1:03:36] Erik: Good luck on your first trip into the Bajau waters.
[1:03:36 – 1:03:37] Erik: Yeah, where are you going?
[1:03:37 – 1:03:37] Erik: Let us know how that goes.
[1:03:38 – 1:03:38] Adam: Where are you going?
[1:03:39 – 1:03:42] Adam: Let’s see some pics of this magical, magical craft.
[1:03:42 – 1:03:45] Erik: Yeah, we’re over an hour on just.
[1:03:45 – 1:03:46] Erik: Already?
[1:03:46 – 1:03:46] Erik: Yeah.
[1:03:47 – 1:03:49] Erik: I have like five more things on the outline.
[1:03:49 – 1:03:50] Erik: On just responses.
[1:03:50 – 1:03:51] Erik: We’re getting down there, though.
[1:03:51 – 1:03:54] Erik: I really like this username.
[1:03:54 – 1:03:57] Erik: You roughly 14 cats.
[1:03:58 – 1:04:02] Erik: Late to the game, but this question is, why don’t I have a boat yet?
[1:04:03 – 1:04:08] Erik: When does it become the smart idea to buy a boat rather than go the easy way and rent from an outfitter?
[1:04:08 – 1:04:10] Adam: This is really the question we’re getting down to here.
[1:04:10 – 1:04:11] Adam: It’s all boiling down to that.
[1:04:11 – 1:04:13] Erik: It kind of depends on how often you go out.
[1:04:13 – 1:04:15] Adam: Yeah, I don’t know.
[1:04:15 – 1:04:16] Adam: How big is it to you?
[1:04:17 – 1:04:19] Erik: A few weeks ago we were talking about portaging.
[1:04:19 – 1:04:22] Erik: There was a lot of equations that came into effect.
[1:04:22 – 1:04:23] Erik: This is how you do it.
[1:04:23 – 1:04:24] Erik: This is the style.
[1:04:25 – 1:04:26] Erik: So do a little bit of math.
[1:04:26 – 1:04:28] Erik: How much does it cost to rent a canoe?
[1:04:28 – 1:04:29] Erik: How often would you use it?
[1:04:30 – 1:04:39] Erik: It’s, you know, some intangibles about feeling ownership over a canoe and building a relationship, being able to put sweet stickers on it.
[1:04:39 – 1:04:39] Erik: Yeah.
[1:04:39 – 1:04:41] Erik: Those are things that you can’t quantify.
[1:04:41 – 1:04:42] Erik: Painting it.
[1:04:42 – 1:04:42] Erik: Yeah.
[1:04:43 – 1:04:43] Erik: Painting it.
[1:04:43 – 1:04:44] Erik: Naming it.
[1:04:44 – 1:04:45] Erik: Naming it.
[1:04:45 – 1:04:46] Erik: You can’t name a rented canoe.
[1:04:47 – 1:04:49] Erik: I picked up some guys.
[1:04:49 – 1:04:51] Adam: I bet a lot of people do name their rented canoes.
[1:04:51 – 1:04:51] Adam: Well, they’re out.
[1:04:51 – 1:04:52] Adam: Temp names.
[1:04:52 – 1:04:52] Adam: Temp names.
[1:04:53 – 1:05:00] Erik: Yeah, there was one I shuttled today, a personal canoe, T-Swift duct taped on the side of an aluminum canoe.
[1:05:01 – 1:05:02] Erik: That was nice.
[1:05:02 – 1:05:02] Erik: Yeah.
[1:05:02 – 1:05:03] Erik: More canoe names.
[1:05:04 – 1:05:06] Adam: Share your canoe names with us.
[1:05:06 – 1:05:07] Adam: They’re great.
[1:05:07 – 1:05:07] Adam: That’s fun.
[1:05:09 – 1:05:11] Adam: MN River Rat, one point.
[1:05:12 – 1:05:18] Adam: My first trip into the BWCA was with a youth group paddling and carrying aluminum craft canoes.
[1:05:18 – 1:05:22] Adam: Then a year or two later, I went up with my father and my brothers and rented Min 2s.
[1:05:23 – 1:05:32] Adam: I’d spent my childhood with aluminum canoes and I couldn’t get over the difference in weight plus glide and Min 2s and Min 3s became our tripping canoes for subsequent years.
[1:05:33 – 1:05:39] Adam: It has been quite a few years since I’ve been able to get up there, but with the kids getting a little older, I’m considering something simple for next year.
[1:05:40 – 1:05:46] Adam: I’ve heard good things about the Suez River Quetico 18-5 and am considering renting one out to try it.
[1:05:46 – 1:05:47] Adam: Yeah, you might as well.
[1:05:48 – 1:05:50] Adam: Sounds like you’ve got a pretty wide range of experiences already.
[1:05:51 – 1:05:52] Adam: Give the Suez River a try.
[1:05:52 – 1:05:53] Adam: Yep.
[1:05:53 – 1:05:54] Adam: A lot of people like them.
[1:05:55 – 1:05:55] Adam: They are.
[1:05:55 – 1:05:56] Adam: They are a fine boat.
[1:05:56 – 1:05:58] Adam: Very requested experience.
[1:06:00 – 1:06:00] Adam: J. Harlick.
[1:06:01 – 1:06:04] Erik: Is that an alternate spelling for garlic?
[1:06:04 – 1:06:05] Erik: Jarlick.
[1:06:05 – 1:06:06] Erik: Yeah.
[1:06:06 – 1:06:08] Erik: It’s a huge fan of Jarlsberg cheese.
[1:06:10 – 1:06:11] Erik: Winona Sundowner 18.
[1:06:12 – 1:06:17] Erik: I borrowed it from my parents almost eight years ago and just haven’t gotten around to returning it yet.
[1:06:18 – 1:06:19] Erik: They haven’t asked back for it.
[1:06:19 – 1:06:21] Erik: I guess they’re not using it.
[1:06:21 – 1:06:22] Adam: Might as well keep it.
[1:06:23 – 1:06:27] Adam: Final answer for digital Reddit is Adman87.
[1:06:27 – 1:06:28] Adam: Just 10 hours ago.
[1:06:28 – 1:06:30] Erik: See, this is why we keep it open for two weeks.
[1:06:30 – 1:06:32] Erik: See, it’s a good thing we kept it open.
[1:06:32 – 1:06:33] Adam: These last couple just got in.
[1:06:33 – 1:06:38] Adam: Yeah, they didn’t have as many points, but it’s because they haven’t been on the post for as long.
[1:06:38 – 1:06:38] Adam: Yeah.
[1:06:39 – 1:06:40] Adam: Everybody else has moved on.
[1:06:40 – 1:06:42] Adam: They’re watching the dance party videos and whatnot.
[1:06:44 – 1:06:53] Adam: Adman87, I’ll take my beater aluminum craft down my local Cannon River or Root Rivers, but for the BWCA, it’s rental Kevlar all the way.
[1:06:54 – 1:06:58] Adam: Have they improved the sound Kevlar canoes make if they happen to run over a rock?
[1:06:59 – 1:07:00] Erik: Seems like some very special signs.
[1:07:00 – 1:07:03] Adam: Always freaked me out that they were about to rip in half.
[1:07:03 – 1:07:04] Adam: Yeah.
[1:07:04 – 1:07:13] Erik: That’s definitely a horrible sound when you get on one of those real pointy ones and you’re kind of like dragging slash trying to move it across.
[1:07:13 – 1:07:16] Adam: I’ve never seen one rip in half, but I know the sound.
[1:07:16 – 1:07:16] Adam: Yeah.
[1:07:17 – 1:07:40] Erik: actually most canoes that end up coming back from trips with gashes or not from the lake slashes it’s from dropping them on portages on the rocks on the side like the bottoms of those kevlar canoes are tough very resilient it’s the sides it’s the sides those sides you got to watch out for on the portages dropping them i know after a 200 300 rod portage it’s very easy to just be like
[1:07:40 – 1:07:40] Adam: What’s the side?
[1:07:40 – 1:07:41] Adam: Is it just called the side?
[1:07:42 – 1:07:43] Adam: The side of a canoe?
[1:07:43 – 1:07:45] Adam: Yeah, the old sidewall.
[1:07:45 – 1:07:51] Adam: I mean, we are… Might this be a good opportunity to talk about the different parts of a canoe?
[1:07:52 – 1:07:53] Erik: I mean, I don’t know how much…
[1:07:53 – 1:07:54] Adam: This is the boat show.
[1:07:54 – 1:07:55] Erik: This is the boat show.
[1:07:55 – 1:07:58] Adam: We are… And the name of our podcast is Tumble Home.
[1:07:59 – 1:08:04] Adam: So we may, we’ll just spend, let’s spend maybe a minute on the parts of a canoe.
[1:08:05 – 1:08:05] Erik: Yeah, yeah, sure.
[1:08:05 – 1:08:07] Erik: So, I mean, I don’t know.
[1:08:07 – 1:08:16] Erik: I think that generally the canoes that we send out are maybe a little bit different than canoes that other people are paddling.
[1:08:16 – 1:08:22] Erik: The ones, at least a Clearwater that gets sent out are specifically for the Bonjou waters.
[1:08:22 – 1:08:27] Erik: So longer, holding a little bit more gear and meant for… Great payload.
[1:08:27 – 1:08:28] Erik: Great payload.
[1:08:29 – 1:08:57] Erik: yes easy to load uh yeah i mean i don’t know about necessarily i don’t know how that would make much of a difference easy or harder to load i mean all the canoes up here are pretty easy to load yeah but on the water we send out canoes that are meant to hold gear meant to travel far and then the kevlar factor for easy portaging yeah that’s the formula
[1:08:58 – 1:08:59] Erik: Yeah, that’s the formula.
[1:08:59 – 1:09:01] Erik: And there’s no one perfect canoe.
[1:09:01 – 1:09:03] Erik: It’s like everything.
[1:09:03 – 1:09:05] Erik: There’s not one perfect…
[1:09:05 – 1:09:08] Erik: I mean, this is the point of the show.
[1:09:09 – 1:09:13] Erik: If there was one answer for all these questions, it would be a very boring show.
[1:09:13 – 1:09:15] Erik: What do you use to portage across?
[1:09:15 – 1:09:18] Erik: This is the one best boot of all time.
[1:09:18 – 1:09:19] Erik: What are you paddling?
[1:09:19 – 1:09:21] Erik: This is the one best canoe.
[1:09:21 – 1:09:22] Erik: Like, that’s not true.
[1:09:23 – 1:09:26] Erik: So it totally depends on what you’re comfortable with and what works.
[1:09:27 – 1:09:28] Erik: But, yeah, we…
[1:09:31 – 1:09:55] Erik: we could talk about to a certain extent some of the factors that go into a canoe i didn’t necessarily want it to be like hardcore these couches backs these couches though do elicit some kind of a real like policy yeah canoe policy and specs if you want to get the on the specs then you know you can just come on down those are pretty fitting and we’ll we’ll just show it to you
[1:09:55 – 1:09:58] Erik: Yeah, those are pretty easy to go in and look at.
[1:09:58 – 1:10:00] Erik: Like, what’s the inch of rocker on that canoe?
[1:10:01 – 1:10:05] Erik: I don’t necessarily feel like that’s all that interesting to talk about.
[1:10:05 – 1:10:21] Erik: We would be remiss if we didn’t, at the very least, shout out the tumble home shape of a canoe, which I think is kind of ironic.
[1:10:22 – 1:10:25] Erik: It’s actually not my preferred canoe that we paddle.
[1:10:27 – 1:10:31] Adam: I like a tumble home, but I really like the straight edges, the straight walls.
[1:10:31 – 1:10:37] Erik: Yeah, I think a tumble home on a canoe looks the best.
[1:10:37 – 1:10:42] Erik: It is not necessarily the overall best though.
[1:10:43 – 1:10:48] Erik: So basically tumble home on a canoe means that the sides are wider than the gunnels.
[1:10:48 – 1:10:50] Erik: So it kind of has this flare effect.
[1:10:51 – 1:10:51] Erik: Yeah.
[1:10:51 – 1:10:58] Erik: It’s got a bit of a… Well, it’s got flair, but then it tapers at the top as it comes back into where the gunnels are at.
[1:10:59 – 1:11:03] Erik: The North Star Canoes are probably the most prominently tumble-homed.
[1:11:05 – 1:11:06] Erik: First time we’ve used that as a verb, maybe?
[1:11:06 – 1:11:07] Erik: We’ve verbed it.
[1:11:07 – 1:11:08] Erik: We’ve verbed it.
[1:11:08 – 1:11:11] Erik: 30 episodes in, and we finally verbed tumble-home.
[1:11:12 – 1:11:13] Erik: You tumble-homing?
[1:11:13 – 1:11:13] Erik: Yeah.
[1:11:13 – 1:11:14] Erik: Yeah, I’m tumble homing.
[1:11:17 – 1:11:31] Erik: But, yeah, and most of the canoes that are going out into the boundary waters are going to be, you know, a little bit of flare, a little bit of tumble home, and not quite flat-bottomed besides…
[1:11:33 – 1:11:36] Erik: like a Champlain or your Grumman aluminum.
[1:11:38 – 1:11:41] Erik: And then you’re not going to see the extreme alternative of that.
[1:11:41 – 1:11:44] Erik: You’re not really going to see any round bottom boats.
[1:11:44 – 1:11:45] Adam: That’s what Reg was using last week.
[1:11:45 – 1:11:47] Erik: I think that’s what Reg was using.
[1:11:47 – 1:11:49] Erik: We were like, how is he shaking that canoe out?
[1:11:49 – 1:11:51] Adam: I think he was using a round bottom boat.
[1:11:51 – 1:11:53] Adam: It’s just basically a carved out log.
[1:11:53 – 1:11:54] Adam: That’s how you get the shakeout to work.
[1:11:55 – 1:12:00] Erik: Yeah, we’ll get our canoe historian on here in the near future to tell us about dugout canoes.
[1:12:01 – 1:12:12] Erik: And then rocker, that is the measurement from bow to stern in terms of curvature.
[1:12:12 – 1:12:14] Adam: Curvature, yeah, that’s the right way to put it.
[1:12:14 – 1:12:15] Erik: Yeah, so…
[1:12:17 – 1:12:19] Adam: The bow is what cleaves the water.
[1:12:20 – 1:12:37] Erik: Yeah, and so if there’s something that’s got a lot of rocker, like full rocker, which would be like two or three inches, which is the measurement from the center beam to either the stern or the bow, that will make for a much more maneuverable craft.
[1:12:38 – 1:12:40] Erik: Probably more useful in moving water.
[1:12:40 – 1:12:41] Erik: Yeah.
[1:12:41 – 1:12:52] Erik: Especially if you’re running rivers, you want to have to be able to… Again, I think that those trick canoes that we saw last week were like fully rockered, fully rounded bottom canoes.
[1:12:52 – 1:12:55] Erik: They’re basically like tops, like dreidels.
[1:12:55 – 1:12:57] Erik: You could just spin those things around in a circle.
[1:12:58 – 1:13:03] Erik: Not very applicable or pragmatic for a Boundary Waters canoe trip.
[1:13:04 – 1:13:11] Erik: Most canoes that get sent out into the Boundary Waters are going to have relatively little rocker and relatively…
[1:13:14 – 1:13:16] Erik: Flat bottoms, not completely flat, but…
[1:13:17 – 1:13:20] Adam: Pretty flat bottoms and pretty straight sidewalls.
[1:13:20 – 1:13:20] Adam: Yeah.
[1:13:21 – 1:13:27] Erik: And that just, again, kind of speaks to where we send canoes out of.
[1:13:28 – 1:13:30] Erik: Where you’re at is really going to have a lot to do with that.
[1:13:31 – 1:13:37] Erik: Flat water canoeing, you’re not going to necessarily need that intense maneuverability.
[1:13:38 – 1:13:47] Erik: The other big difference would be, not that any of the Kevlar’s come with this, but the keel is a huge upside for a lot of people with tracking.
[1:13:48 – 1:13:52] Erik: And for me at this point, I actually get kind of frustrated by a keel.
[1:13:53 – 1:13:55] Erik: I’m more of a fan of a little bit more control.
[1:13:56 – 1:14:02] Adam: Yeah, like when I had a canoe with a keel, I didn’t know anything about tracking or how to paddle correctly.
[1:14:03 – 1:14:05] Adam: And now that I know how to paddle, I’m not sure that I need it.
[1:14:06 – 1:14:06] Adam: I don’t know.
[1:14:06 – 1:14:07] Adam: It would be odd.
[1:14:07 – 1:14:11] Adam: I’ve never tried to get back into like an old Grumman and use the J-stroke.
[1:14:12 – 1:14:18] Erik: Yeah, I can’t remember the last time that I have paddled very far in an aluminum canoe.
[1:14:18 – 1:14:18] Erik: Yeah.
[1:14:19 – 1:14:29] Erik: And that probably is a good place to stop because I don’t want to say too much more without previous recent experience in a keeled canoe.
[1:14:29 – 1:14:31] Erik: Okay.
[1:14:32 – 1:14:38] Erik: Let’s finish up with a couple of our thoughts, where we get our canoes, what we like to paddle.
[1:14:38 – 1:14:40] Adam: I was telling you about our boats.
[1:14:41 – 1:14:41] Erik: Yes.
[1:14:42 – 1:14:42] Erik: Let’s.
[1:14:54 – 1:15:03] Adam: Okay, before we get to our boats, though, I got one more personal friend of the show who didn’t have time to call it in or write it out.
[1:15:03 – 1:15:03] Adam: I threatened.
[1:15:03 – 1:15:12] Adam: I said, if you don’t tell me the story of this boat on the social media or by calling in the answering machine, I’m going to be forced to badly paraphrase the story.
[1:15:12 – 1:15:13] Adam: It’s happening.
[1:15:13 – 1:15:15] Adam: He never had time to call in.
[1:15:16 – 1:15:21] Adam: Um, so I’m just gonna have to quickly tell it cause it’s a great boat acquisition, acquisition story.
[1:15:21 – 1:15:26] Adam: He knew some people that worked up at Sawbill and it’s a guy I know around the area here.
[1:15:26 – 1:15:27] Adam: He was looking for a boat.
[1:15:28 – 1:15:29] Adam: I kind of put him in contact with you.
[1:15:29 – 1:15:30] Adam: I said, maybe he’s got something.
[1:15:31 – 1:15:35] Adam: He had some feelers out up at Sawbill and sure enough, they call him up like the next day.
[1:15:35 – 1:15:36] Adam: They’re like, actually, this guy was here.
[1:15:37 – 1:15:43] Adam: They’re on a trip right now, him and his wife, and they said they’re interested in selling their boat after this trip.
[1:15:43 – 1:15:45] Adam: It’s going to be their last trip in the Boundary Waters.
[1:15:45 – 1:15:49] Adam: So be here at Tuesday morning at 10.30 a.m.
[1:15:50 – 1:15:51] Adam: He’s like, okay.
[1:15:51 – 1:15:54] Adam: I don’t know if it was Tuesday, but it was something specific like that.
[1:15:54 – 1:15:55] Adam: Be here in this time frame.
[1:15:55 – 1:15:56] Adam: That’s when they’re going to be back.
[1:15:57 – 1:15:59] Adam: So he goes up there, and sure enough, a guy and his wife come in.
[1:16:01 – 1:16:04] Adam: It’s a really nice, I believe it’s known as Spirit 2.
[1:16:05 – 1:16:07] Adam: I really should have checked my notes on this one.
[1:16:07 – 1:16:08] Erik: Well, you’re badly paraphrasing it.
[1:16:08 – 1:16:10] Erik: This is what happens when you don’t call it in.
[1:16:10 – 1:16:13] Erik: I was throwing out the name there.
[1:16:13 – 1:16:14] Erik: Do you want me to bleep that?
[1:16:14 – 1:16:16] Adam: Yeah, you’re going to have to loon call that one.
[1:16:16 – 1:16:18] Adam: We don’t want to give away his name.
[1:16:18 – 1:16:19] Adam: But anyways…
[1:16:20 – 1:16:21] Erik: I should write down when that is.
[1:16:21 – 1:16:26] Adam: Yeah, 114 in here on the raw track.
[1:16:26 – 1:16:28] Adam: So he gets to the landing.
[1:16:28 – 1:16:30] Adam: Literally, a guy pulls up with his wife.
[1:16:30 – 1:16:32] Adam: They unload their packs into their car.
[1:16:32 – 1:16:34] Adam: They’re like, okay, well, we’re going back to Montana.
[1:16:35 – 1:16:36] Adam: We don’t want to take this canoe with us.
[1:16:36 – 1:16:38] Adam: We’re not going to get another trip in.
[1:16:38 – 1:16:39] Adam: This is our last trip.
[1:16:39 – 1:16:40] Adam: It was a great trip.
[1:16:41 – 1:16:41] Adam: Yeah.
[1:16:42 – 1:16:46] Adam: So you want, it’s a white gel coat Spirit II Winona.
[1:16:46 – 1:16:48] Adam: It’s a beautiful 17 footer, nice boat.
[1:16:48 – 1:16:53] Adam: It’s in great shape, except for it just says like Afton for Congress on it.
[1:16:53 – 1:16:54] Adam: I got to pull this up.
[1:16:54 – 1:16:55] Adam: I want to make sure I got the name right.
[1:16:56 – 1:16:56] Adam: I believe it’s Afton.
[1:16:59 – 1:17:00] Erik: Yeah, Acton.
[1:17:00 – 1:17:00] Erik: Sorry.
[1:17:01 – 1:17:02] Erik: Fact-checked it on the fly.
[1:17:02 – 1:17:05] Adam: It said Acton for Congress, upside down.
[1:17:05 – 1:17:07] Adam: Apparently, this guy ran for Congress in Montana.
[1:17:07 – 1:17:09] Erik: Do I have to bleep that name, too?
[1:17:09 – 1:17:11] Erik: If he’s got a bumper sticker, I don’t have to bleep it.
[1:17:11 – 1:17:12] Adam: No, he’s a public figure.
[1:17:12 – 1:17:12] Adam: It’s cool.
[1:17:13 – 1:17:18] Adam: So he wrote it upside down, and he would portage this canoe in parades during his campaign.
[1:17:18 – 1:17:20] Erik: So it was a campaign canoe.
[1:17:20 – 1:17:21] Erik: I was like, why was it upside down?
[1:17:21 – 1:17:22] Erik: Acton.
[1:17:22 – 1:17:23] Adam: Lauren Acton.
[1:17:23 – 1:17:48] Adam: yeah makes sense and uh he goes on to tell the guy you know i was on space lab 2 he was a like an astronaut that was on space lab 2 god named lauren acton space lab 2 is the precursor to the international space station back like in the mirror days yeah it launched on the challenger for crying out loud yeah moment of silence you know we can extend that that’s good enough
[1:17:50 – 1:17:54] Adam: So he like literally gives them, he just gives the canoe away to him.
[1:17:54 – 1:17:55] Adam: He’s like, I like the cut of your jib.
[1:17:56 – 1:17:56] Adam: You just gave it to him?
[1:17:57 – 1:18:03] Adam: No, he paid something, but it was like ridiculous, like $100, $200 for the whole canoe, a beautiful gel coat.
[1:18:04 – 1:18:04] Erik: Yeah.
[1:18:04 – 1:18:10] Adam: And then he’s like, honestly, these like beautiful bent shaft paddles they had with them.
[1:18:10 – 1:18:12] Adam: They’re like, we’re not going to need these either.
[1:18:12 – 1:18:13] Adam: So I guess we can have those too.
[1:18:13 – 1:18:16] Adam: The paddles alone were worth what he paid for the canoe.
[1:18:16 – 1:18:19] Adam: So he basically bought some paddles from an old astronaut.
[1:18:19 – 1:18:20] Adam: Yeah.
[1:18:20 – 1:18:23] Adam: On the fly, just had Sawbill Landing and then got a free canoe out of the deal.
[1:18:24 – 1:18:27] Adam: So he works in the sign shop with his uncle.
[1:18:27 – 1:18:31] Adam: So he kind of scrubbed the acting for Congress thing off of there a little bit.
[1:18:31 – 1:18:35] Adam: And then in NASA font, named the boat Space Lab 2.
[1:18:36 – 1:18:38] Adam: And it’s a tandem boat.
[1:18:38 – 1:18:39] Adam: They use it all the time.
[1:18:39 – 1:18:43] Adam: So it’s another one of those, I can’t remember the username, but…
[1:18:43 – 1:18:48] Adam: The guy called him back and was like, I want you to have this to continue this boat on its journey.
[1:18:48 – 1:18:50] Adam: You’re the right person to have this boat.
[1:18:50 – 1:18:52] Adam: Very fortuitous how this worked out.
[1:18:52 – 1:18:55] Adam: It’s a much better story than how I got my own boat.
[1:18:55 – 1:18:57] Adam: So I definitely wanted to make sure it got on this episode.
[1:18:58 – 1:19:01] Adam: If anything, this story had to be in this episode.
[1:19:01 – 1:19:03] Adam: It’s the best boat story I actually know.
[1:19:03 – 1:19:10] Erik: I’ve heard that off and on over the years, and that was definitely nice to hear it again in full detail.
[1:19:10 – 1:19:12] Erik: I didn’t realize it was basically free.
[1:19:12 – 1:19:35] Adam: yeah i mean he paid almost nothing for it and he got yeah like two nice bent shaft paddles out of the deal too which is about like i think we figured it out and like the paddles alone for what he paid it was a fair deal for the paddles yeah and he got this nice canoe out of the deal too so nice yeah sometimes you’re just in the right place at the right time and it is all about how you know like he knew these people that worked at sawbill at the time they let him know it’s all word of mouth
[1:19:36 – 1:19:36] Erik: Yeah.
[1:19:36 – 1:19:37] Erik: No, that’s crazy.
[1:19:37 – 1:19:40] Adam: So like I said, a boat will choose you.
[1:19:40 – 1:19:41] Adam: You don’t choose your boat.
[1:19:41 – 1:19:43] Adam: That’s my working theory on this episode.
[1:19:43 – 1:19:51] Erik: Which does, again, also address the user who was wondering whether to buy or to rent.
[1:19:51 – 1:19:52] Adam: The boat will let you know.
[1:19:53 – 1:19:54] Adam: The boat will tell you.
[1:19:55 – 1:19:55] Erik: Now.
[1:19:55 – 1:19:56] Erik: Boat show.
[1:19:57 – 1:19:59] Erik: Now we’re going to show you our boats.
[1:19:59 – 1:19:59] Erik: Yeah.
[1:20:00 – 1:20:01] Erik: We’re going to tell you about our boats.
[1:20:01 – 1:20:01] Erik: Ta-da.
[1:20:01 – 1:20:02] Erik: Ta-da.
[1:20:20 – 1:20:21] UNKNOWN: Thank you.
[1:20:38 – 1:20:45] Erik: So the responses we got from everybody were way better than anything that I could have imagined.
[1:20:46 – 1:20:46] Erik: Great response.
[1:20:47 – 1:20:47] Erik: Great response.
[1:20:48 – 1:20:49] Erik: Stories were awesome.
[1:20:50 – 1:20:52] Erik: Pictures we got from people, super cool.
[1:20:53 – 1:20:59] Erik: It kind of is the main reason that we pushed ours to the end because I don’t know.
[1:21:00 – 1:21:05] Erik: I mean, I have a thing or two to say about canoes, but not as necessarily interesting at all.
[1:21:05 – 1:21:07] Adam: Yeah, like you don’t currently have a boat.
[1:21:08 – 1:21:09] Erik: Well, right, I don’t.
[1:21:09 – 1:21:13] Adam: You have a whole yard of boats at your disposal.
[1:21:13 – 1:21:14] Adam: We use M1 a lot.
[1:21:14 – 1:21:17] Adam: I was yelling about E9 before.
[1:21:18 – 1:21:20] Adam: You have plenty of boats at any given time.
[1:21:20 – 1:21:22] Adam: You can have whatever kind of boat you want almost.
[1:21:22 – 1:21:26] Erik: I sent M1 out with staff today, and I was like, you better be careful with that M1.
[1:21:26 – 1:21:27] Adam: Don’t scratch baby.
[1:21:28 – 1:21:31] Erik: Yeah, and don’t be looking like a fool with it out there too.
[1:21:31 – 1:21:32] Adam: Yeah, M1 is a famous boat now.
[1:21:32 – 1:21:33] Erik: Yeah.
[1:21:33 – 1:21:40] Erik: But I’ll just tell more of a first-timer story and then the gel coat hun story.
[1:21:41 – 1:21:43] Erik: It doesn’t necessarily completely relate.
[1:21:43 – 1:21:48] Erik: Probably would be more applicable to another conversation about like your first trip.
[1:21:48 – 1:21:52] Erik: But I always think it’s funny considering where I am now.
[1:21:53 – 1:21:59] Erik: which is about as entrenched in canoeing, Boundary Waters.
[1:22:00 – 1:22:08] Erik: I mean, we run a podcast, a Boundary Waters podcast for cripes sake.
[1:22:09 – 1:22:09] Erik: We do.
[1:22:09 – 1:22:20] Erik: And my first trip into the park with my dad in middle school, I portaged a Grumman canoe off of Snowbank into disappointment and back.
[1:22:21 – 1:22:24] Erik: But one of the easiest day trips you can possibly do.
[1:22:25 – 1:22:29] Erik: And got done with the day and I told him, I never want to do that ever again.
[1:22:30 – 1:22:31] Erik: I never want to do that again.
[1:22:31 – 1:22:32] Erik: And here I am.
[1:22:32 – 1:22:35] Adam: What was people’s reaction to portaging a aluminum canoe for the first time?
[1:22:36 – 1:22:42] Erik: Yeah, I’m here now recording a podcast on portaging.
[1:22:43 – 1:22:46] Adam: Yeah, an expert in your field at this point.
[1:22:46 – 1:22:55] Erik: Well, you know, it’s just funny that that experience, that first time out can change so greatly.
[1:22:55 – 1:23:05] Erik: But with that in mind, I’ll talk just a minute about the canoe, the few canoes that I have experienced and used since then.
[1:23:06 – 1:23:33] Erik: that i i kind of uh feel the same way as uh again username not in front of us a little bit regretful about selling it no longer have these canoes you don’t need a canoe when you have a yard full of canoes but well and that was it’s sad to see a canoe leave and that was the thing it was like do i do i really need this this canoe your ballywick in my ballywick
[1:23:38 – 1:23:47] Erik: The canoe, I guess I could say, was mostly my own that I was most affectionate towards was, I’ve mentioned before, the Hun.
[1:23:49 – 1:23:54] Erik: And it was actually given to me from Clearwater, previous ownership.
[1:23:55 – 1:23:55] Erik: Yeah.
[1:23:57 – 1:23:57] Erik: Gifted.
[1:23:57 – 1:23:59] Adam: Was that considered a bonus?
[1:23:59 – 1:24:03] Erik: Yeah, it was a bonus for the end of the season after working a few years for the…
[1:24:03 – 1:24:05] Adam: It’s way better than a jelly of the month club.
[1:24:06 – 1:24:07] Erik: That was given to you?
[1:24:07 – 1:24:08] Adam: Yeah.
[1:24:09 – 1:24:10] Adam: I had bought the pool.
[1:24:10 – 1:24:12] Adam: I was expecting a Christmas bonus.
[1:24:12 – 1:24:14] Adam: I got a damn jelly of the month club.
[1:24:15 – 1:24:18] Erik: It is the gift that keeps that gift.
[1:24:18 – 1:24:23] Erik: I just completely whiffed on the Christmas vacation reference.
[1:24:24 – 1:24:46] Erik: there anyway it’s the middle of august yeah what am i i don’t have chevy chase on mind here right now um so that’s a good christ that’s a good bonus not even a christmas bonus that’s just the end of summer work bonus gel coat canoes going out of style at the time and yeah so i don’t know how people ever thought gel coat was going out of style i think that’s a classic look
[1:24:46 – 1:24:54] Erik: I think that’s kind of why I’m so partial to the Minnesota 2, which, again, speaks to I don’t think we’re trying to answer the question.
[1:24:54 – 1:24:54] Erik: Mm-hmm.
[1:24:55 – 1:25:19] Erik: whose canoe is best who wins head to head there’s no best no whatever you know you whatever you grew up on it’s like the grain belt i grew up on grain belt probably has a better taste to me than most people i grew up paddling the min 2 in the park and it’s like the look of a min 2 on the water yeah um i also like the look of it like just from the top i like the look of it on top of a vehicle yeah
[1:25:19 – 1:25:42] Adam: like the sky view of it side view i like seeing one on a portage i can always tell i’m into yeah like if i just get a glimpse of a boat going by on the other side of the highway yeah i was a man too no it’s at this point 97 unfortunately i did sell the hun we talked about that i no longer own the white gel cone hun twin of ghost it is twin
[1:25:43 – 1:25:52] Erik: but I still pretty much only paddle in Minnesota too out there I feel most comfortable in them they’re fast as heck they’re very fast oh heck they’re fast
[1:25:53 – 1:25:55] Erik: I like how narrow they are, actually.
[1:25:55 – 1:25:58] Erik: Most people will complain about that, especially the…
[1:25:58 – 1:26:00] Erik: They’re still super stable.
[1:26:00 – 1:26:01] Adam: Yeah, I think they are.
[1:26:01 – 1:26:04] Adam: Incredible, like fully loaded and heavy seas.
[1:26:04 – 1:26:05] Adam: Incredible.
[1:26:05 – 1:26:05] Erik: Yep.
[1:26:06 – 1:26:07] Erik: It’s made track.
[1:26:08 – 1:26:13] Erik: A big complaint about them is that stern paddler.
[1:26:13 – 1:26:15] Erik: They get real pinched back there with their legs.
[1:26:15 – 1:26:17] Erik: But I feel like I just…
[1:26:17 – 1:26:39] Adam: cross leg kind of wedge under that seat yeah and i just perched myself up and i could sit like that for hours yeah they’re great so yeah i have the twin yes ghost um we both were working in clear water you already had hun and then uh the year i worked there first with you we were like digging around the back of the canoe yard and we’re looking to do a quetico trip
[1:26:40 – 1:26:55] Adam: and i kind of was like i think it’s time where i’m gonna have to get my own boat yeah and looking in the backyard and here it is this other white gel coat men too like it was not white no it wasn’t white not even close it was more of like a um uh ghastly green
[1:26:56 – 1:26:57] Erik: It had like lichen growing on it.
[1:26:57 – 1:27:00] Adam: It had literally like mosses growing off of it.
[1:27:00 – 1:27:05] Adam: It had been laying in the back of the canoe yard so long, just up on a couple pieces of old, old crappy wood.
[1:27:07 – 1:27:10] Adam: I said to the owner at the time, I said, what do you want for that thing?
[1:27:10 – 1:27:11] Adam: I’ll take it off your hands.
[1:27:11 – 1:27:12] Adam: And he was like, I don’t know.
[1:27:12 – 1:27:14] Adam: I might be able to still send it out on trips.
[1:27:15 – 1:27:17] Adam: I just don’t think you’re going to be able to send that out.
[1:27:17 – 1:27:19] Adam: You shouldn’t send it out on trips.
[1:27:19 – 1:27:20] Adam: It’s disgusting.
[1:27:20 – 1:27:20] Adam: Yeah.
[1:27:21 – 1:27:23] Adam: So I got it off of them for a steal.
[1:27:24 – 1:27:28] Adam: Just had it deducted right out of my paycheck for that month.
[1:27:28 – 1:27:29] Adam: We were getting paid by the month at that time.
[1:27:30 – 1:27:32] Adam: And the rest is history.
[1:27:32 – 1:27:34] Adam: Greatest deal ever.
[1:27:35 – 1:27:35] Adam: And you still have it.
[1:27:36 – 1:27:39] Adam: I still have it, and it’s in a lot better shape than when I got it.
[1:27:39 – 1:27:45] Adam: It’s a 96 Min 2, 18 1⁄2-foot white gel coat.
[1:27:45 – 1:27:47] Adam: I power washed it.
[1:27:47 – 1:27:50] Adam: The day I bought it off of them, I grabbed the power washer.
[1:27:51 – 1:27:55] Adam: And I sprayed her down and actually got that pretty much back to sort of almost a white color.
[1:27:56 – 1:28:02] Adam: And then we took it on Quetico that fall, put probably a couple hundred miles on it that fall.
[1:28:03 – 1:28:05] Adam: And I put it in storage for the winter.
[1:28:05 – 1:28:07] Adam: The next spring, I sanded her all down.
[1:28:08 – 1:28:09] Adam: It’s got like…
[1:28:10 – 1:28:13] Adam: I don’t know, three skid plates on it, though, which I never really sanded.
[1:28:13 – 1:28:14] Adam: The front is like…
[1:28:14 – 1:28:15] Adam: It’s ridiculous.
[1:28:15 – 1:28:16] Adam: It’s totally skid plated out.
[1:28:16 – 1:28:20] Adam: It’s pretty heavy just on extra skid plates, but it is battle tested.
[1:28:20 – 1:28:22] Adam: And, you know, I try and be careful with it.
[1:28:22 – 1:28:25] Adam: But if you run into something with it, no big deal.
[1:28:25 – 1:28:27] Adam: It’s a heavy duty old gel coat boat.
[1:28:27 – 1:28:28] Adam: That thing is just a tank.
[1:28:29 – 1:28:54] Adam: and uh yeah i sanded it all down i bought some gel coat and like hand applied it yep and then of course the day i was hand applying it like this is the first bug hatch of the spring and then i got a bunch of bugs in the gel coat yeah it’s so it’s not really that great done um it was originally named the pearl i had painted the name the pearl on the yoke um oh yeah but um
[1:28:54 – 1:29:18] Adam: didn’t the yoke break it broke on me uh i just flipped it up and the whole yoke came out of it and then so i replaced the whole yoke so then i had this old yoke that i painted the pearl on it was of course named for the uh john steinbeck short story the pearl who um this guy i don’t know used to write stories out in california um it’s a great story about um the greed of humankind
[1:29:19 – 1:29:20] Adam: There you go.
[1:29:20 – 1:29:25] Adam: And so I thought by naming a boat after that story, it would be like antithesis to the greed.
[1:29:27 – 1:29:28] Adam: But it didn’t turn out that way.
[1:29:29 – 1:29:30] Adam: The name never stuck.
[1:29:30 – 1:29:33] Adam: And then the yoke that I’d painted the name on kind of dropped out of the boat.
[1:29:34 – 1:29:35] Adam: So then it was nameless for a few years.
[1:29:36 – 1:29:39] Adam: And then the guy with Space Lab 2.
[1:29:39 – 1:29:41] Erik: Is that another bleep that I have to do now?
[1:29:41 – 1:29:42] Adam: Yeah, keep bleeping his name out.
[1:29:42 – 1:29:44] Adam: He got to keep the anonymity.
[1:29:45 – 1:29:48] Adam: Anonymity, 114, 127, noted.
[1:29:49 – 1:29:51] Adam: And so he’s working at the sign shop.
[1:29:51 – 1:29:55] Adam: So I said, can you make me just a sticker that looks like the Clearwater Moose?
[1:29:56 – 1:29:58] Adam: And so he hand carved out.
[1:29:58 – 1:30:01] Adam: And anybody who follows us on Instagram has seen pictures of ghosts.
[1:30:02 – 1:30:03] Adam: And so that was the true name.
[1:30:04 – 1:30:08] Adam: It’s a beautiful Lac La Croix pictograph moose.
[1:30:09 – 1:30:14] Adam: That’s also the Clearwater moose just on the back end there, back where I sit.
[1:30:15 – 1:30:21] Adam: And that’s it, just plain white and then a couple really bland Minnesota license stickers that have to be on there.
[1:30:22 – 1:30:23] Adam: No flair at all.
[1:30:23 – 1:30:24] Adam: No flair.
[1:30:24 – 1:30:25] Adam: Yeah, so it’s Ghost.
[1:30:25 – 1:30:30] Adam: Also just a shout out to, you know, Jon Snow’s dire wolf in Game of Thrones.
[1:30:30 – 1:30:35] Erik: Oh, yeah, and I think you have the, what’s the little symbol on the canoe as well?
[1:30:35 – 1:30:36] Erik: The circle with the line through it?
[1:30:36 – 1:30:42] Adam: Right, yeah, which is, it all comes back to how the story begins and how it ends.
[1:30:42 – 1:30:44] Adam: I’m currently reading the original Game of Thrones book.
[1:30:44 – 1:30:46] Adam: All the clues to how the story is going to end is in there.
[1:30:46 – 1:30:54] Adam: I’m a big believer that, you know, the old gods are going to have some say in this thing, and that’s the old gods’ font, so…
[1:30:54 – 1:30:54] Adam: Nice.
[1:30:55 – 1:30:56] Adam: That’s my boat.
[1:30:56 – 1:30:57] Adam: I hope you enjoyed my story about the boat.
[1:30:58 – 1:31:00] Adam: It’s still with us, and it’s older than heck.
[1:31:01 – 1:31:04] Adam: It’s a beautiful boat, and it’s got many miles ahead.
[1:31:05 – 1:31:05] Adam: Many miles ahead.
[1:31:07 – 1:31:10] Adam: And with that, we are not done yet.
[1:31:10 – 1:31:13] Adam: Got a few more stories before we get on out.
[1:31:14 – 1:31:16] Adam: The answering machine’s got a couple blinking lights, no?
[1:31:16 – 1:31:20] Erik: In the distance, a blinking red light.
[1:31:22 – 1:31:24] SPEAKER_00: Hi, guys.
[1:31:24 – 1:31:26] SPEAKER_00: It’s the geologist’s wife calling again.
[1:31:28 – 1:31:31] SPEAKER_00: This is how I’m going to answer the question of the week this week.
[1:31:31 – 1:31:33] SPEAKER_00: No comments on printed Facebook for me.
[1:31:34 – 1:31:35] SPEAKER_00: Just the answering machine.
[1:31:37 – 1:31:41] SPEAKER_00: I think the Min-2 Han has already been talked about, pretty sure.
[1:31:42 – 1:31:51] SPEAKER_00: But the Min-2 Han, you know, the famous white gel coat Min-2, will always have a special place in my heart.
[1:31:51 – 1:31:52] SPEAKER_00: It’s my favorite boat.
[1:31:53 – 1:32:03] SPEAKER_00: Um, it’s the boat that Eric and I paddled when I used to not pay attention to what lakes we were going to, where we were.
[1:32:04 – 1:32:05] SPEAKER_00: I had no idea.
[1:32:05 – 1:32:12] SPEAKER_00: It didn’t matter because I was with Eric, my, my sweet, my sweetheart, um, in this sweet little boat.
[1:32:13 – 1:32:17] SPEAKER_00: And, um, you know, the Mintoo has always been a favorite.
[1:32:17 – 1:32:21] SPEAKER_00: Um, I think for that reason, no other reason.
[1:32:22 – 1:32:24] SPEAKER_00: You know, it’s a great boat.
[1:32:24 – 1:32:25] SPEAKER_00: It’s got a good shape.
[1:32:26 – 1:32:30] SPEAKER_00: My legs fit nicely in the front because Eric’s always toddling stern.
[1:32:30 – 1:32:35] SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, you know, the Min 2.
[1:32:35 – 1:32:36] SPEAKER_00: It’s a good old boat.
[1:32:37 – 1:32:39] SPEAKER_00: It’ll always be my favorite.
[1:32:39 – 1:32:40] SPEAKER_00: We took it to Quetico as well.
[1:32:41 – 1:32:42] SPEAKER_00: So, yeah.
[1:32:43 – 1:32:50] SPEAKER_00: And this weekend, you know, you might not hear from me ever again because this weekend is Fisherman’s Picnic.
[1:32:51 – 1:32:54] SPEAKER_00: in Grand Marais, so I might not make it.
[1:32:54 – 1:32:58] SPEAKER_00: So if you don’t hear from me ever again, it’s been a good time.
[1:33:00 – 1:33:00] SPEAKER_00: Okay, bye-bye.
[1:33:03 – 1:33:12] Erik: Well, if you’re concerned, I can assure you, Tori survived Fisherman’s Picnic.
[1:33:12 – 1:33:15] Adam: Yeah, we all survived once again.
[1:33:16 – 1:33:16] Erik: Yeah.
[1:33:17 – 1:33:18] Erik: Are you doing all right?
[1:33:18 – 1:33:19] Erik: We never even talked about it.
[1:33:19 – 1:33:20] Erik: Are you all right?
[1:33:20 – 1:33:21] Adam: Yeah, I’m all right.
[1:33:21 – 1:33:23] Adam: You know, I’ve done it before.
[1:33:23 – 1:33:23] Adam: Yeah.
[1:33:24 – 1:33:26] Adam: It’s not going to really bother me too much.
[1:33:27 – 1:33:28] Adam: Can’t let that get you all worked up.
[1:33:28 – 1:33:30] Adam: It’s just that’s part of the job up here.
[1:33:30 – 1:33:30] Adam: Yeah.
[1:33:31 – 1:33:46] Adam: it is dealing with fishermen’s picnic and we did get some good uh you know i don’t know if it was good but i got some chinese food it was it was chinese it was china i can confirm there was chinese food had for every meal um so yeah we made it through that was a nice call
[1:33:47 – 1:34:11] Adam: thanks tori another shout out to min twos and to the han uh yeah i don’t know there is probably some regret that you don’t have that boat anymore if you had a chance to buy it back would you what would you pay to get that boat back at this i wouldn’t pay more than i sold it for yeah yeah if you could if you if you had the chance to get it back for what you sold it though i mean yeah i don’t know maybe back in the quiver it’s at this point i think i like the uh
[1:34:12 – 1:34:13] Adam: the story of it.
[1:34:14 – 1:34:14] Adam: Yeah.
[1:34:15 – 1:34:16] Adam: The lore, you know?
[1:34:16 – 1:34:17] Erik: Yeah.
[1:34:17 – 1:34:21] Erik: You know, you can take away the canoe, but you can’t take away the paddling partner.
[1:34:23 – 1:34:23] Erik: Wow.
[1:34:24 – 1:34:25] Erik: The end.
[1:34:27 – 1:34:27] Adam: No, not the end.
[1:34:27 – 1:34:28] Adam: That’s great.
[1:34:28 – 1:34:29] Adam: That’s great though.
[1:34:29 – 1:34:31] Adam: And honestly, I like the, the white gel coat.
[1:34:31 – 1:34:33] Adam: It’s really got a special place in my heart.
[1:34:33 – 1:34:41] Adam: Um, you know, because that your boat, the boat I ended up getting, um, anytime I see a white gel coat going down the highway, I always give it a little nod.
[1:34:42 – 1:34:42] Erik: Yeah.
[1:34:42 – 1:34:46] Erik: But if you are out there, owner of the hun, reach out.
[1:34:46 – 1:34:46] Erik: Call us up.
[1:34:46 – 1:34:47] Adam: We’ll give you a sticker.
[1:34:48 – 1:34:50] Erik: I will pay you a king’s ransom in stickers.
[1:34:53 – 1:34:59] Erik: And for the first time ever, we have a second next message.
[1:34:59 – 1:34:59] Erik: Can’t wait.
[1:34:59 – 1:35:00] Adam: Let’s hear it.
[1:35:03 – 1:35:03] Josh: Hey, fellas.
[1:35:04 – 1:35:05] Josh: It’s your buddy, Josh.
[1:35:06 – 1:35:10] Josh: Thought I’d call in and share the story of my canoe.
[1:35:12 – 1:35:31] Josh: I worked on a research project in southern Michigan for a few years studying aquatic turtles, and there were several canoes that we used in different wetlands to monitor traps and track turtles and do the biology research.
[1:35:33 – 1:35:41] Josh: And I was fortunate enough to be on this project at the tail end, and one of the perks of the job at the end of this project was I was
[1:35:41 – 1:35:45] Josh: got my pick of the canoes to take home with me.
[1:35:45 – 1:36:07] Josh: And there were some nice, more traditional Grumman-style aluminum canoes, but the one that I chose and the one that I liked the best was an 11-foot tandem aluminum canoe of unknown manufacturer from probably sometime in the 1950s or 1960s.
[1:36:10 – 1:36:13] Josh: It was an exceptionally maneuverable and stable canoe.
[1:36:14 – 1:36:17] Josh: And I paddled it solo for most of the summer.
[1:36:18 – 1:36:24] Josh: But what was most endearing about this canoe was the story that went with it.
[1:36:25 – 1:36:28] Josh: And it had some interesting patches.
[1:36:30 – 1:36:32] Josh: I named this canoe Dick’s Last Drink.
[1:36:33 – 1:36:40] Josh: And I could tell you the story, but I think it’s best summed up in a poem that was written by my cousin, Jeremy.
[1:36:40 – 1:36:43] Josh: And I’ll recite that for you here.
[1:36:45 – 1:36:45] Josh: Dick’s Last Drink.
[1:36:47 – 1:36:51] Josh: Well, if you ever knew old Dick, you knew he’s the drinking sort.
[1:36:52 – 1:36:56] Josh: He’d get to throwing a few back with the boys, and Dick’s temper’d get real short.
[1:36:57 – 1:37:01] Josh: Didn’t matter who was in his way, even the town’s biggest man.
[1:37:02 – 1:37:06] Josh: Piss Dick off and a couple whiskeys, and the shit’s gonna hit the fan.
[1:37:07 – 1:37:08] Josh: Now this particular night,
[1:37:09 – 1:37:11] Josh: Dick and the boys were drinking downtown.
[1:37:11 – 1:37:17] Josh: Whiskey after whiskey was poured down their throats, and Dick’s face got that familiar frown.
[1:37:18 – 1:37:22] Josh: Now, we all knew Dick weren’t a saint, and he liked to fight to beat the band.
[1:37:23 – 1:37:27] Josh: And what he and the boys did that fateful night would even make the devil’s hair stand.
[1:37:28 – 1:37:37] Josh: See, a local gal named Mary was there celebrating her 21st, and Dick didn’t take too kindly to their hooting in and hollering outbursts.
[1:37:38 – 1:37:42] Josh: And one particular scream pierced Dick’s ear like a whip.
[1:37:43 – 1:37:47] Josh: And before you could blink, Mary was on the ground with blood coming from her lip.
[1:37:48 – 1:37:51] Josh: Now, I aim to tell you, even Dick knew he’d done wrong.
[1:37:52 – 1:37:56] Josh: So he dropped his whiskey in his tracks and made his way back to the farm.
[1:37:57 – 1:38:01] Josh: He settled into bed that night, knowing his name would get to the law.
[1:38:01 – 1:38:05] Josh: The whiskey weighed on Dick’s head that night and logs he began to saw.
[1:38:06 – 1:38:08] Josh: Weren’t long, though, I’m telling you.
[1:38:08 – 1:38:10] Josh: The dick woke from the sounds he heard.
[1:38:10 – 1:38:12] Josh: Some local boys was shooting their guns.
[1:38:13 – 1:38:14] Josh: The dick watched without a word.
[1:38:16 – 1:38:18] Josh: Hard telling what their aim was.
[1:38:18 – 1:38:20] Josh: Trouble, killing, or just being scary.
[1:38:21 – 1:38:25] Josh: The dick knew they’d come for him that night because of what he’d done to Mary.
[1:38:26 – 1:38:30] Josh: Old dick passed out in the chair after all the commotion was gone.
[1:38:30 – 1:38:34] Josh: But he awoke to a headache in the morning and went outside to see what went on.
[1:38:35 – 1:38:37] Josh: Shots through the shop and the barn door.
[1:38:37 – 1:38:43] Josh: Shots through the window had flew, but the thing that bugged old Dick the most were the shots that went through his canoe.
[1:38:44 – 1:38:46] Josh: Tweren’t long for the sheriff, came calling.
[1:38:47 – 1:38:48] Josh: Dick was requested by the local judge.
[1:38:49 – 1:38:53] Josh: So Dick went to town like he ought to, and the judge weren’t looking to budge.
[1:38:54 – 1:39:00] Josh: If I see you in here again, he said, you ain’t going to like what you hear or see because you’re going away for a while next time.
[1:39:01 – 1:39:03] Josh: And don’t even think about testing me.
[1:39:04 – 1:39:05] Josh: So Dick left the courthouse that morning.
[1:39:06 – 1:39:12] Josh: counting his blessings each one, stopped by the saloon and paid up his tab, told them he wouldn’t be back for no fun.
[1:39:12 – 1:39:16] Josh: Then Dick made his way back home and walked over to his cabinet made of pine.
[1:39:17 – 1:39:20] Josh: He dumped out all his whiskey, then the vodka, rum, and moonshine.
[1:39:21 – 1:39:25] Josh: Then Dick went down to the boathouse and dumped out each can of ale.
[1:39:25 – 1:39:29] Josh: A little piece of Dick died that day, and his face got sickly pale.
[1:39:30 – 1:39:33] Josh: His canoes were going to need fixing because he didn’t want them to sink.
[1:39:34 – 1:39:38] Josh: but all he could think of as he stared at the lake was that Dick had had his last drink.
[1:39:40 – 1:39:40] Josh: Thanks, guys.
[1:39:41 – 1:39:41] Josh: Love the podcast.
[1:39:42 – 1:39:42] Josh: Keep up the good work.
[1:39:45 – 1:39:46] Adam: Wow, holy moly.
[1:39:46 – 1:39:47] Adam: Hot dog.
[1:39:47 – 1:39:49] Adam: Thank you for the story and the poem.
[1:39:50 – 1:39:51] Adam: The poem story.
[1:39:51 – 1:39:52] Adam: That was very nicely said.
[1:39:53 – 1:39:58] Adam: And I just got to say, 11-foot tandem canoe.
[1:39:58 – 1:39:58] Adam: That’s amazing.
[1:39:58 – 1:40:02] Adam: It doesn’t sound that stable, but from what he said, it was very stable.
[1:40:03 – 1:40:11] Erik: Yeah, we contemplated in between restarting after listening to that amazing message actually just ending the show.
[1:40:11 – 1:40:12] Erik: Yeah, it could have ended there.
[1:40:12 – 1:40:13] Erik: I think it had…
[1:40:15 – 1:40:16] Erik: There was enough that it could have ended there.
[1:40:17 – 1:40:17] Erik: That was great.
[1:40:18 – 1:40:19] Adam: Well, we’re basically going to end it there.
[1:40:19 – 1:40:20] Adam: Yeah, pretty much.
[1:40:20 – 1:40:30] Adam: But we would just like to say one more time, thank you to everybody for calling in, for sending in messages, writing, sending your pictures, and telling us about your boat.
[1:40:30 – 1:40:31] Adam: It’s been a lot of fun.
[1:40:31 – 1:40:34] Adam: I’ve been looking forward to this episode for the last two weeks, really.
[1:40:34 – 1:40:34] Erik: Yes.
[1:40:35 – 1:40:36] Adam: To getting to record this one.
[1:40:37 – 1:40:41] Adam: We were saying while we were listening to that poem, like, this honestly is going to end up in the Library of Congress someday.
[1:40:42 – 1:40:42] Adam: Yeah.
[1:40:43 – 1:40:44] Adam: There’s a good chance.
[1:40:45 – 1:40:46] Adam: It’s a dang, dang shame.
[1:40:46 – 1:40:51] Adam: I love this kind of like just oral history of people calling in and telling us their stories like this.
[1:40:51 – 1:40:52] Adam: I mean, that’s what it’s really about.
[1:40:52 – 1:40:53] Adam: It’s not so much the park.
[1:40:53 – 1:40:59] Adam: It’s about the people you’re in there with and the stories and how they got these boats and the way you found your way to the park.
[1:41:00 – 1:41:02] Adam: And these vessels are a big part of it.
[1:41:02 – 1:41:07] Adam: I mean, if there’s any piece of gear out there that’s more important than a boat, there just isn’t.
[1:41:07 – 1:41:09] Adam: It’s the boat and then there’s everything else.
[1:41:09 – 1:41:12] Adam: So really great to hear about it.
[1:41:13 – 1:41:18] Adam: And, you know, when you find that boat or when the boat finds you, you will know.
[1:41:19 – 1:41:22] Adam: And then you will know it’s time for happy paddling.
[1:41:23 – 1:41:23] Adam: Good night.
[1:41:24 – 1:41:25] Adam: Thank you for listening.
[1:41:25 – 1:41:25] Adam: I’m Adam.
[1:41:26 – 1:41:26] Adam: I’m Eric.
[1:41:27 – 1:41:28] Adam: Arrivederci.
[1:41:54 – 1:42:18] SPEAKER_02: We travel over the lingo and watch the ghosts of past times They’re only with dear, dear dreams We take it slow to the temple of the shadows Pretend to be lost in the real life
[1:42:19 – 1:42:25] SPEAKER_02: You’ve got no sales, you don’t give in to the winds.
[1:42:43 – 1:42:48] SPEAKER_02: As far as I can tell, you endorse my every whim.
[1:42:48 – 1:42:52] SPEAKER_02: Choke-soaked in passion.
[1:42:53 – 1:42:54] SPEAKER_02: Passion.
[1:42:55 – 1:42:58] SPEAKER_02: My bride.
[1:42:59 – 1:43:02] SPEAKER_02: I see them go sweet salvage.
[1:43:02 – 1:43:06] SPEAKER_02: They can’t sink up on my fingers.
[1:43:06 – 1:43:07] SPEAKER_02: Fingers.
[1:43:07 – 1:43:08] SPEAKER_02: Fingers.
[1:43:12 – 1:43:19] SPEAKER_02: We travel through the lingo and watch the ghosts take back steps and run away.
[1:43:19 – 1:43:26] SPEAKER_02: Tears flow, tears flow, trips.
[1:43:26 – 1:43:29] SPEAKER_02: We take it slow to the table.
[1:43:34 – 1:43:34] SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
[1:43:34 – 1:43:34] SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
[1:43:54 – 1:44:08] SPEAKER_02: Et dans mes voyages musicaux, je rêve de longs en larges, enfouis dans mon bateau enivré, accroupi, les corps devenus l’admirant, le beau paysage, le beau paysage.
[1:44:10 – 1:44:16] SPEAKER_02: Please don’t clear the cell, cell of my bed.
[1:44:17 – 1:44:20] SPEAKER_02: Sweet anger, sweet silence.
[1:44:20 – 1:44:24] SPEAKER_02: You can’t think of all my fingers, fingers.
[1:44:25 – 1:44:28] SPEAKER_02: We travel, we linger, and fight.
[1:44:29 – 1:44:34] SPEAKER_02: We go strip and stuff, running with tears, tears.
[1:44:44 – 1:45:05] SPEAKER_02: We take it slow to the table in the shadows Pretend to be lost, humor alive, cliff notes Me and my boat, boat, boat Me and my boat
[1:45:14 – 1:45:18] SPEAKER_02: I love me and my I love me and my