019: The Airing of Grievances

Episode Transcript

[0:00:08 – 0:00:12] Adam: Well, good morning from day two of the Frost River Loop.
[0:00:13 – 0:00:19] Adam: We’re here sitting around the fire grate cooking up our hash browns and the coffee just came off the press.
[0:00:19 – 0:00:19] Adam: I’m Adam.
[0:00:20 – 0:00:20] Adam: I’m here with Natalie.
[0:00:21 – 0:00:22] UNKNOWN: Hello.
[0:00:22 – 0:00:22] Adam: Morning.
[0:00:22 – 0:00:30] Adam: It is a dead calm day here on Wednesday, May 23rd.
[0:00:32 – 0:00:34] Adam: We’re getting a little bit of a late start here.
[0:00:35 – 0:00:40] Adam: And yes, we did not make it all the way to Frost Lake as originally planned.
[0:00:40 – 0:00:42] Adam: It just ended up being too much.
[0:00:43 – 0:00:53] Adam: So we shut it down at the very southern end of Long Island on the beach site we discussed near the L in Long Island, if you’re looking on the fisher map.
[0:00:53 – 0:00:55] Adam: So it’s a very nice site.
[0:00:56 – 0:00:57] Adam: There’s a nice sandy beach here.
[0:00:57 – 0:00:59] Adam: And we got in kind of early and just relaxed.
[0:00:59 – 0:01:01] Adam: We’re both feeling a little sore.
[0:01:01 – 0:01:02] Adam: How do you feel this morning?
[0:01:04 – 0:01:28] Adam: not any better i’m i was really really sore and went to bed pretty early and uh i feel a lot better in the morning though so almost sleep a full 12 hours yeah we’re really making up for it like the night before the trip i went to bed really late and then i couldn’t sleep and then i kind of have like if you can tell a bit of a sniffle i’m a little stuffed up like i’ve never get sick ever and of course on the frost river trip all of a sudden i get sick the day before we left so
[0:01:29 – 0:01:31] Adam: Didn’t sleep great the day before, and it was a hard day.
[0:01:31 – 0:01:38] Adam: That first day of paddling and portaging after a long winter never goes as smooth for the body as you’d like.
[0:01:39 – 0:01:41] Adam: So, yeah, where are we heading today, Natalie?
[0:01:42 – 0:01:43] Natalie: Baloney!
[0:01:45 – 0:01:47] Adam: So we’ll probably check back with you from Bologna.
[0:01:47 – 0:01:50] Adam: But yeah, we’re going to have our nice breakfast here and then get moving.
[0:01:50 – 0:01:53] Adam: There is literally not a speck of wind on the lake right now.
[0:01:53 – 0:01:55] Adam: It is just calmer than it can be.
[0:01:56 – 0:02:04] Adam: So heading down, or heading up the Long Island River and then doing the height of land portage over across to Frost and unload to start the day.
[0:02:04 – 0:02:12] Adam: We may try and fish on Frost or at least just stop on one of the campsites for a little snack and then we’ll begin our push down the Frost River.
[0:02:13 – 0:02:14] Adam: Well, we will.
[0:02:15 – 0:02:16] Adam: That’s all for now.
[0:02:16 – 0:02:17] Adam: It’s time for breakfast.
[0:02:17 – 0:02:17] Adam: Yum yum.
[0:02:42 – 0:02:47] Adam: Welcome to Tumble Home, a Boundary Waters podcast.
[0:02:48 – 0:02:52] Adam: This is Adam, with me as always in studio A2.
[0:02:53 – 0:02:54] Adam: The outdoor studio is Eric.
[0:02:55 – 0:02:58] Erik: Hello, yes, the natural sounds of nature.
[0:02:59 – 0:03:03] Adam: It’s lovely, quite lovely, and nice and cool today.
[0:03:03 – 0:03:05] Adam: It’s a real change of pace.
[0:03:05 – 0:03:10] Adam: I was out chopping wood yesterday in the heat wave, the end of the heat wave, and I nearly fainted.
[0:03:10 – 0:03:11] Erik: That was a heat wave, man.
[0:03:11 – 0:03:12] Erik: Yeah, it’s been hot.
[0:03:12 – 0:03:17] Erik: For May, it was about three weeks solid where it was every day well over 80.
[0:03:17 – 0:03:18] Erik: There was one day up here where it was 88 degrees.
[0:03:19 – 0:03:26] Adam: Yeah, and we’re going to get to it on this episode, but on our Frost River trip, it was insanely hot for May.
[0:03:27 – 0:03:32] Adam: You know it’s hot when you’re complaining about the heat in May after a long seven-month winter.
[0:03:33 – 0:03:33] Erik: Yeah.
[0:03:33 – 0:03:37] Adam: And yeah, you don’t get too many of those days in May, but my gosh, it was hot.
[0:03:37 – 0:03:48] Erik: Yeah, I was talking to a local business owner, and they were telling me that they had somebody coming in off fishing for the day, and their complaint was that it was too sunny.
[0:03:48 – 0:03:49] Erik: Yeah.
[0:03:49 – 0:03:50] Erik: It’s too nice.
[0:03:50 – 0:03:50] Adam: Dang it.
[0:03:50 – 0:03:53] Adam: Like, you just can’t win.
[0:03:53 – 0:03:57] Adam: I did feel a little bit silly complaining about the heat, but man, it was way too hot.
[0:03:58 – 0:04:00] Adam: Well, it’s a reason we live up here.
[0:04:00 – 0:04:01] Adam: We had to adjust our travel plans.
[0:04:02 – 0:04:07] Adam: I mean, I had kind of a rough schedule we discussed in the previous episode on what we wanted to be doing each day.
[0:04:07 – 0:04:14] Adam: And, you know, we got to Bologna for night two, but the first day, not nearly as much distance as I thought we were going to make.
[0:04:14 – 0:04:17] Adam: Basically, we had to pull over and just stop due to, like, heat exhaustion.
[0:04:17 – 0:04:18] Adam: Like, I couldn’t go.
[0:04:19 – 0:04:20] Adam: I could not do one more portage.
[0:04:20 – 0:04:22] Adam: It was that hot in our food packs.
[0:04:23 – 0:04:23] Adam: Too full of beer.
[0:04:23 – 0:04:27] Erik: You didn’t have any chilled cucumber waters with to quench?
[0:04:27 – 0:04:28] Adam: None.
[0:04:28 – 0:04:29] Erik: Refresh?
[0:04:29 – 0:04:36] Adam: We had cool beer with for the first night, and by the time we even got into camp, which was quite early, the beer was hot in the pack, too.
[0:04:36 – 0:04:38] Adam: It wasn’t like it was sitting out in the sun.
[0:04:38 – 0:04:42] Adam: That plastic growler does not have any insulating properties whatsoever.
[0:04:42 – 0:04:46] Erik: Not beer-packing weather over the course of basically up until today.
[0:04:47 – 0:04:47] Erik: Right.
[0:04:47 – 0:04:48] Adam: Today is a great day.
[0:04:49 – 0:04:53] Adam: So you can definitely just have a beer in the bottom of your canoe and it’ll probably stay cold.
[0:04:53 – 0:04:58] Adam: It’s like 45, nice and cloudy, bit of a cold chill coming off the lake.
[0:04:58 – 0:04:59] Adam: It’s really nice.
[0:04:59 – 0:04:59] Erik: Yeah.
[0:04:59 – 0:05:09] Erik: I was telling you before the show that I woke up this morning and I really didn’t know how to make sense of what I was feeling and smelling because we left all of our windows open.
[0:05:10 – 0:05:10] Erik: It was about…
[0:05:11 – 0:05:35] Erik: 45 40 degrees you know in the room and then somebody had uh was burning some birch so i had that birch smell that sweet smoke in the air yes and it was like cloudy out and it felt like autumn i was like what month is it am i did i miss the season so felt good slept right through it it’s my favorite temperature and conditions me too yeah it’s been great so
[0:05:35 – 0:05:55] Erik: um we are also sponsored by we should mention before we get too far along clearwater historic lodge and canoe outfitters as well as this week’s beer sponsor which as i open it here you should tell us about what what we got yeah so uh dad got me a beer club of the month thing uh for christmas
[0:05:56 – 0:05:57] Adam: Yes.
[0:05:57 – 0:05:59] Adam: So it just arrived the other day.
[0:05:59 – 0:06:02] Adam: So we’re having something by Shipyard Brewing Company.
[0:06:03 – 0:06:05] Adam: Where the heck is Shipyard from, you may ask?
[0:06:05 – 0:06:06] Adam: It’s out of Portland, Maine.
[0:06:07 – 0:06:07] Adam: East Coast beer here.
[0:06:08 – 0:06:12] Adam: This is a Steady Pale Ale is what it’s called from Shipyard.
[0:06:13 – 0:06:13] Adam: Cheers.
[0:06:18 – 0:06:19] Erik: A hoppy pale ale.
[0:06:19 – 0:06:20] Adam: Nice and steady.
[0:06:21 – 0:06:21] Adam: Yeah.
[0:06:21 – 0:06:25] Erik: So… Can’t recommend it, can’t not recommend it.
[0:06:25 – 0:06:25] Erik: No.
[0:06:25 – 0:06:26] Erik: It’s just right down the middle.
[0:06:26 – 0:06:27] Adam: Yeah, it’s pretty steady.
[0:06:27 – 0:06:29] Adam: There you go.
[0:06:29 – 0:06:30] Adam: Maybe that’s what they’re going for.
[0:06:30 – 0:06:35] Adam: A lot of the beer club of the month stuff is, yeah, like just middle of the road.
[0:06:35 – 0:06:38] Adam: Not going to offend anybody’s palate, not going to excite it too much either, but…
[0:06:39 – 0:06:43] Adam: You get a lot of different weird ones in there, and then they usually throw a pale ale and an IPA in every month.
[0:06:44 – 0:06:48] Erik: Yeah, the beer club or anything of the month, they probably got to keep it kind of right down the middle of the road.
[0:06:48 – 0:06:49] Adam: Yeah, you don’t want to get too wild.
[0:06:50 – 0:06:55] Erik: Yeah, you got to maintain the vast majority of your subscribers.
[0:06:55 – 0:06:58] Adam: You’re not going to see any arrogant bastards in the beer club of the month.
[0:06:58 – 0:07:06] Adam: So my main, it’s really a fun thing to get in the mail and a pretty thoughtful gift for somebody who likes the beer and trying new beers like I do.
[0:07:07 – 0:07:12] Adam: My main complaint with it was always that it came in like a literal, like a cube of styrofoam.
[0:07:13 – 0:07:16] Adam: And so then you get 12 beers delivered to your door, which is cool.
[0:07:16 – 0:07:24] Adam: But it’s also, I feel a little bit guilty about having that kind of, oh, you’re just shipping beer using a truck and airplanes and who knows what to get this beer to me.
[0:07:25 – 0:07:29] Adam: And then all this packaging, like it just feels a little wasteful and crazy, but yeah.
[0:07:29 – 0:07:36] Adam: They’ve now adjusted their packaging, so at least you can kind of break it all down and just take it in the cardboard pile.
[0:07:36 – 0:07:37] Adam: So that’s nice.
[0:07:37 – 0:07:40] Adam: So anyways, Shipyard, thanks for the beer.
[0:07:41 – 0:07:41] Adam: And thank you, Dad.
[0:07:42 – 0:07:44] Adam: So either of you can sponsor us.
[0:07:45 – 0:07:48] Adam: Hit us up on our social media networks.
[0:07:49 – 0:07:52] Adam: Yeah, so… On this week’s episode.
[0:07:52 – 0:07:54] Adam: Yeah, we’re kind of recapping.
[0:07:54 – 0:07:56] Adam: Episode 19, 019 on Tumble Home.
[0:07:56 – 0:08:01] Adam: We’re going to do a recap of our Frost River trip we did a couple weeks back now.
[0:08:02 – 0:08:03] Adam: And is that right?
[0:08:03 – 0:08:03] Adam: Yeah.
[0:08:04 – 0:08:05] Adam: That was last week, I guess.
[0:08:05 – 0:08:07] Adam: Well, it was the… We just got back a week from today, so…
[0:08:07 – 0:08:10] Erik: Yeah, the week before Memorial Day weekend.
[0:08:10 – 0:08:11] Adam: Right.
[0:08:11 – 0:08:12] Adam: We’re going to hit that up.
[0:08:12 – 0:08:14] Adam: We got a question of the week to get to.
[0:08:14 – 0:08:16] Adam: It’s, what are your pet peeves?
[0:08:16 – 0:08:19] Adam: We were talking about this in our Big Winchy episode.
[0:08:19 – 0:08:20] Adam: Big Winchy.
[0:08:20 – 0:08:27] Adam: When people paddle right in your campsite was one for us, but not the direction most of our friends on social media took.
[0:08:27 – 0:08:29] Adam: We got some interesting responses here we’re going to touch on.
[0:08:30 – 0:08:32] Adam: It turns out people don’t like pee and poop.
[0:08:32 – 0:08:34] Adam: Yeah, don’t poop in the portages.
[0:08:35 – 0:08:35] Erik: Yeah.
[0:08:35 – 0:08:35] Adam: Yeah.
[0:08:36 – 0:08:39] Adam: And which is, I thought, common sense, but it’s happening more than we think.
[0:08:39 – 0:08:39] Erik: Apparently, yeah.
[0:08:40 – 0:08:48] Erik: Oh, and right before we get to that, this isn’t like a big teaser or a brain teaser or surprise.
[0:08:49 – 0:08:53] Erik: The last couple episodes, we’ve had like huge jugs of beer and gifts.
[0:08:53 – 0:08:57] Adam: I wore my Breakfast King Loyola t-shirt the other day and was getting a lot of looks.
[0:08:57 – 0:08:58] Erik: Ooh, nice.
[0:08:58 – 0:08:59] Erik: Yeah.
[0:08:59 – 0:09:09] Erik: Well, this week, the only thing is I did… We’ve mentioned in the past couple of weeks about a guided trip that I have, and I hadn’t chosen an entry point yet.
[0:09:09 – 0:09:09] Erik: I know.
[0:09:09 – 0:09:14] Adam: I was really hoping that you were going to take them to the SAC, South Arm of Knife.
[0:09:14 – 0:09:16] Erik: Yeah, there was the… Rock Bass Adventures.
[0:09:16 – 0:09:21] Erik: That was on the Rock Bass for days up on the South Arm of Knife.
[0:09:22 – 0:09:23] Erik: Didn’t go in that direction, and I don’t know.
[0:09:24 – 0:09:27] Erik: It was just… All of a sudden, I was standing in front of the map wall, and it just…
[0:09:28 – 0:09:29] Erik: Struck me, and I checked.
[0:09:29 – 0:09:32] Adam: Before you say it, so how many days did they decide on?
[0:09:32 – 0:09:36] Adam: I know you said at first it was going to be a pretty long trip, and then maybe it was down to a four-day trip.
[0:09:37 – 0:09:38] Erik: At this point, it is a five-day trip.
[0:09:38 – 0:09:40] Adam: That’s a pretty good amount of time.
[0:09:40 – 0:09:40] Adam: Yes.
[0:09:40 – 0:09:45] Adam: Even for people who aren’t comfortable paddling great distance, you can cover a lot of ground in five days.
[0:09:46 – 0:09:55] Erik: Which is also kind of why I chose this entry point, because after a certain point, you can make it as long or as short, and I can end up in a number of places.
[0:09:55 – 0:09:55] Erik: Yes.
[0:09:56 – 0:10:06] Erik: So, yeah, I thought of it, checked to see if there was a permit available, and there was one available because there are only one entry permits available for this entry point a day.
[0:10:06 – 0:10:06] Erik: Oh, boy.
[0:10:07 – 0:10:09] Erik: And I decided to go with a Bower Trout entry point.
[0:10:09 – 0:10:10] Erik: Yes, Bower Trout.
[0:10:10 – 0:10:10] Erik: Yes.
[0:10:10 – 0:10:11] Erik: Ding, ding, ding.
[0:10:11 – 0:10:13] Erik: A head nut to Brule, Vernon, Swan.
[0:10:13 – 0:10:14] Erik: You’re going to Swan?
[0:10:14 – 0:10:15] Erik: Probably Swan or Vernon.
[0:10:15 – 0:10:17] Adam: This time of year should be insane for Swan.
[0:10:17 – 0:10:20] Adam: Are you going like an out and back then, or are you going to leave a car at Brule?
[0:10:20 – 0:10:29] Erik: I’m just going to have somebody drop me off and I’ll just tell them, well, I’ll call from either Trail Center or Tuscarora and we’ll see what happens.
[0:10:30 – 0:10:31] Adam: Yeah, you can go all the way back there.
[0:10:31 – 0:10:36] Erik: Yeah, I mean, with five days, obviously people I’ve never paddled with before, so we’ll see.
[0:10:37 – 0:10:41] Erik: But I’m thinking for sure out to Brule and then depending on how ambitious they’re feeling, either…
[0:10:42 – 0:10:49] Adam: That could be, yeah, I mean, that’s another one where you want a little bit more water in the system because there’s some stuff going through Marshall after Bower Trout.
[0:10:49 – 0:10:51] Adam: They’re in kind of this river system.
[0:10:51 – 0:10:56] Adam: There’s a lot of rocks and navigating that could be tricky, but I think you’re going to hit it perfect.
[0:10:56 – 0:10:59] Adam: The last time I was out there, my buddy Trevor from Milwaukee was up and I
[0:11:00 – 0:11:07] Adam: Made him slog his way into Swan with me, and we got that nice middle campsite on Swan, and oh boy, it was… We had the huge cooler.
[0:11:07 – 0:11:08] Adam: We had the huge cooler.
[0:11:08 – 0:11:10] Adam: We had 40s in plastic bottles.
[0:11:10 – 0:11:13] Erik: That was like right when the Yeti coolers were coming up.
[0:11:13 – 0:11:15] Adam: Yeah, we had a Yeti cooler full of 40s.
[0:11:15 – 0:11:16] Adam: We ended up actually leaving… Did you dump out ice?
[0:11:16 – 0:11:22] Adam: We had to leave ice on Swan because there still was good ice in there after a couple of days on Swan, but…
[0:11:23 – 0:11:45] Adam: my favorite part of that trip was i we knew you know there’s decent walleye and swan and we’re out there casting bucktails in the middle of the day and we had we had a couple northern that we had caught that were nice already and we were definitely planning on fish dinner and trevor’s bombing this bucktail off the front really shallow water he hits one and it looks good you know and i’m like all right i get the net i’m getting ready here and he goes it’s a big walleye
[0:11:46 – 0:11:47] Adam: No, it’s not.
[0:11:47 – 0:11:47] Adam: Yeah.
[0:11:47 – 0:11:48] Adam: You’re from Wisconsin.
[0:11:48 – 0:11:49] Adam: You don’t know what’s up.
[0:11:50 – 0:11:52] Adam: It’s a big pike and it comes up.
[0:11:52 – 0:11:52] Adam: Oh my, it is.
[0:11:53 – 0:11:53] Adam: Got it.
[0:11:53 – 0:12:01] Adam: I netted it and it was like a 26 inch walleye on a buck tail in like high noon on a sunny day in like five feet of water.
[0:12:02 – 0:12:25] Adam: wow so that was pretty exciting he it made his trip he also got a really really nice smallmouth on bower trout because we we got in pretty late so we just stayed on one of the crap sites on bower trout the first night and we were out just kind of fishing where the little stream comes in the bower trout yeah and he tagged like a 21 inch smallmouth on that one too so he had a really nice trip fishing wise i didn’t catch anything but i was just happy to see him having fun
[0:12:25 – 0:12:26] Erik: Yeah, for sure.
[0:12:26 – 0:12:27] Erik: So yeah, it should be fun.
[0:12:27 – 0:12:34] Erik: I think, you know, if it was me going out, I would like to make it to Vernon on the first day because there’s that really cool campsite on the base of the falls.
[0:12:34 – 0:12:36] Adam: Yeah, that’s a very big day though.
[0:12:36 – 0:12:39] Adam: I mean, that’s a lot of portaging, especially if you have a Yeti cooler full of ice.
[0:12:40 – 0:12:42] Erik: Well, we don’t have that, but you know, I don’t know what…
[0:12:43 – 0:12:45] Adam: Nothing wrong with Saban and Swan though, man.
[0:12:45 – 0:12:45] Adam: That’s a beauty.
[0:12:45 – 0:12:46] Erik: For sure, Swan.
[0:12:46 – 0:12:49] Erik: And if we want to push it into that 300-round portage in the Vernon.
[0:12:49 – 0:12:51] Erik: Yeah, that’s my thing.
[0:12:51 – 0:12:53] Erik: And then from there, you know, sky’s the limit.
[0:12:53 – 0:12:54] Erik: We’ll see how it goes.
[0:12:54 – 0:12:55] Erik: Cool.
[0:12:55 – 0:12:56] Erik: That’s next Tuesday.
[0:12:56 – 0:12:56] Erik: I’ll be taking off.
[0:12:57 – 0:12:57] Erik: Oh, man.
[0:12:57 – 0:13:00] Erik: We’ll have a little report on how that goes, too.
[0:13:00 – 0:13:01] Adam: Hopefully some field audio.
[0:13:01 – 0:13:10] Adam: And speaking of field audio, later on in this episode, Natalie and I did record at least 15 tracks on the field audio recorder on our Frost River trip.
[0:13:10 – 0:13:14] Adam: So we will be featuring an in-depth video
[0:13:14 – 0:13:18] Adam: on-site campsite review for the Bologna Lake campsite, which we did get.
[0:13:18 – 0:13:18] Adam: Nice.
[0:13:18 – 0:13:21] Adam: And also we had a lunch break on Whipped Lake.
[0:13:21 – 0:13:21] Adam: Whipped.
[0:13:22 – 0:13:23] Adam: The only campsite on Whipped Lake.
[0:13:23 – 0:13:25] Adam: So we have an exclusive.
[0:13:25 – 0:13:26] Adam: You’re only going to hear that here on Tumble Home.
[0:13:26 – 0:13:27] Adam: The first time for us.
[0:13:28 – 0:13:28] Adam: Yeah.
[0:13:28 – 0:13:30] Erik: In the field campsite reviews.
[0:13:30 – 0:13:31] Erik: We’d like to start doing more of that.
[0:13:31 – 0:13:32] Adam: At least two of them on this episode.
[0:13:33 – 0:13:34] Adam: So stick around for those.
[0:13:34 – 0:13:35] Adam: Those will be coming.
[0:13:35 – 0:13:38] Adam: And then we have a bunch of other fun tracks we just recorded.
[0:13:38 – 0:13:42] Adam: So we may or may not include those depending on time, but…
[0:13:42 – 0:13:46] Adam: Otherwise, they’ll go in the vault and we will be featuring them on future episodes.
[0:13:46 – 0:13:48] Adam: But yeah, I love the field recording option.
[0:13:48 – 0:13:49] Adam: It was a lot of fun out there.
[0:13:50 – 0:13:55] Adam: I didn’t use it as much as I thought we would, but we still recorded a decent amount out there.
[0:13:56 – 0:14:01] Adam: And yeah, it’s another fun way to kind of document your trips.
[0:14:01 – 0:14:02] Adam: So should we just…
[0:14:04 – 0:14:07] Adam: Get right into the recap of Frost River 2018.
[0:14:07 – 0:14:09] Erik: Yeah, what did you think?
[0:14:09 – 0:14:13] Adam: Well, we have some audio on this too, but I mean, overall, amazing.
[0:14:13 – 0:14:19] Adam: And I think we both would agree it was a lot more difficult than we anticipated, but I think a lot of that was the heat too.
[0:14:19 – 0:14:19] Erik: Yeah.
[0:14:21 – 0:14:22] Adam: But overall, incredible.
[0:14:23 – 0:14:24] Adam: We ended up counting it out.
[0:14:24 – 0:14:31] Adam: Going in, it should have been 35 portages based on both Fisher and McKenzie listed at 35.
[0:14:32 – 0:14:34] Adam: The Nat Geo listed it a little bit less.
[0:14:35 – 0:14:38] Adam: And it’s not that Nat Geo was right, but we only counted 33 portages.
[0:14:39 – 0:14:44] Adam: Nat Geo didn’t have as many listed, but they weren’t really correct as to where the skip portages were.
[0:14:44 – 0:14:47] Adam: There was a couple that turned into beaver dams, I think, that we were able to just run or pull.
[0:14:48 – 0:14:57] Adam: So I ended up 33 portages, 19 beaver dams, and it took, and I kind of did it with a little piece of string.
[0:14:57 – 0:15:04] Adam: It was about 24 miles is what my account was, but it’s very hard to count the mileage on that river section, especially- Super windy.
[0:15:04 – 0:15:15] Adam: Everything below Pencil and Bologna, that second day then on the river, that’s really narrowest down and very windy and just, you know, you feel like you’re going back and forth more than downstream.
[0:15:15 – 0:15:15] Erik: Yeah.
[0:15:16 – 0:15:16] Adam: Really cool.
[0:15:16 – 0:15:22] Adam: I mean, it really reminded me of some of the, like when I was younger and really into trout fishing in Southwest Wisconsin.
[0:15:23 – 0:15:29] Adam: It just reminded me of that stuff, the way it horseshoes and just bends and doubles back on itself like a liquid ribbon.
[0:15:30 – 0:15:31] Adam: Quite the adventure.
[0:15:31 – 0:15:34] Adam: And as you noted earlier, you wouldn’t want to be in there with a three-person canoe.
[0:15:35 – 0:15:39] Adam: Even in the Min 2, it was some really tight corners and a lot of backstroking.
[0:15:40 – 0:15:44] Adam: I was almost just steering more and kind of just lazy rivering it down that thing.
[0:15:44 – 0:15:44] Adam: Yeah.
[0:15:44 – 0:15:47] Adam: Man, that second day especially was really incredible.
[0:15:47 – 0:15:53] Adam: I mean, and then by then it was day three of our trip and we both kind of had our legs and arms on us finally at that point.
[0:15:53 – 0:15:56] Adam: Cause the first two days were the hottest too.
[0:15:56 – 0:15:57] Adam: And I wasn’t ready for it.
[0:15:57 – 0:15:57] Adam: I’ll be honest.
[0:15:57 – 0:16:01] Adam: I’ll be, it was freakishly hot and I was not ready for that.
[0:16:02 – 0:16:02] Adam: Yeah.
[0:16:02 – 0:16:03] Adam: I was exhausted.
[0:16:03 – 0:16:05] Adam: I was, I, the term I was using was zapped.
[0:16:05 – 0:16:05] Adam: I was zapped.
[0:16:06 – 0:16:07] Erik: That sun will do it.
[0:16:07 – 0:16:09] Adam: First night in camp, I was literally just zapped.
[0:16:10 – 0:16:12] Adam: I had, I was done and we didn’t even paddle that long.
[0:16:12 – 0:16:13] Adam: Really.
[0:16:13 – 0:16:14] Adam: We shut her down by like three.
[0:16:14 – 0:16:18] Erik: So you put in up at round and how was the section through snipe?
[0:16:18 – 0:16:21] Adam: So, yeah, well, that was the thing.
[0:16:21 – 0:16:24] Adam: I mean, the first portage from round, I mean, we had no wind.
[0:16:24 – 0:16:25] Adam: It was really hot.
[0:16:25 – 0:16:32] Adam: And that first portage, even from round to missing link, if it’s your first portage of the year of the whole season and you got heavy packs.
[0:16:32 – 0:16:39] Adam: It’s all uphill and it’s 140 and that’s nothing to scoff at, but it’s not a long portage by any means.
[0:16:39 – 0:16:41] Erik: Anything in those mid 100s is always kind of unassuming.
[0:16:41 – 0:16:42] Erik: You’re like, eh.
[0:16:42 – 0:16:43] Adam: Yeah, it’s nothing.
[0:16:43 – 0:16:49] Adam: But when you’re not used to portaging, let me tell you, not like I was sitting around all winter, but I wasn’t ready for that.
[0:16:49 – 0:16:49] Erik: Yeah.
[0:16:49 – 0:17:12] Adam: different muscles yeah so gunned it up to missing link and then we ran into our friends uh bruce and steve on the end of that portage and we chatted with them for a little bit and then they were still kind of they were like triple portaging and uh we were i was basically double portaging the whole first part of the trip i would take the food pack through and then natalie was taking like the camping pack and then i would go back for the boat so
[0:17:13 – 0:17:18] Adam: We caught them and then put in and I never, at that point, then it was new water for me.
[0:17:18 – 0:17:21] Adam: We turned to the west on Missing Link and headed towards Snipe.
[0:17:21 – 0:17:28] Adam: And then the Snipe portage was listed at like 160 or something, but I felt that it wasn’t quite that long.
[0:17:28 – 0:17:31] Adam: It felt about equal with a little bit less elevation on it.
[0:17:31 – 0:17:34] Adam: And then we got to Snipe and I’ve never been to Snipe and that is a beautiful lake.
[0:17:34 – 0:17:36] Adam: I think it was probably my favorite lake of the first day.
[0:17:38 – 0:17:39] Adam: A lot of really cool rocks.
[0:17:39 – 0:17:43] Adam: I think all I wrote on my map for the notes on that one was like amazing rocks.
[0:17:44 – 0:17:44] Erik: Amazing rocks.
[0:17:44 – 0:17:51] Adam: There’s a couple of little narrows you go through where you’re just in these craggy boulder fields and then there’s just a little bit of water trickling through them.
[0:17:51 – 0:17:57] Adam: You can kind of work your way through really pretty, a couple of really nice campsites and there was nobody on snipe.
[0:17:57 – 0:18:01] Erik: That’s an in-between lake that’s not on any common routes.
[0:18:02 – 0:18:08] Erik: The fact that there are basically no fish in it, it’s a very quiet lake, but beautiful for sure.
[0:18:08 – 0:18:09] Adam: Yeah, really cool.
[0:18:09 – 0:18:19] Adam: I mean, in hindsight, I could see doing, if you had an extra day, just going in and stopping there, and then from Snipe making a run to Frost, which is where I originally wanted to get to on day one, but…
[0:18:20 – 0:18:28] Adam: Honestly, the 140 and then maybe 150 rod portage to get to snipe, I was literally like half dead at that point already.
[0:18:28 – 0:18:30] Adam: That’s how out of shape I was going into this trip.
[0:18:30 – 0:18:33] Adam: I thought I was in fine shape, but it was not.
[0:18:33 – 0:18:42] Adam: It was about 85 by that point in the day, really hot, sun directly above and like, you know, just putting on a lot of sunblock and trying not to go too hard through the portages and…
[0:18:43 – 0:18:44] Adam: You know, that’s the thing with this road.
[0:18:44 – 0:18:47] Adam: It’s a lot of really short paddling, a lot of portaging.
[0:18:47 – 0:18:54] Adam: So you never get those breaks where you can just kind of put it in cruise control and just go, you know, just paddle for like even 40 minutes.
[0:18:54 – 0:19:00] Adam: It’s all like 15 minute paddles and then 10 or 15 minutes of portaging and so forth.
[0:19:00 – 0:19:05] Erik: It’s like a workout in that river where you’re unloading and loading and unloading and loading and reloading and unloading.
[0:19:05 – 0:19:09] Adam: So then from Snipe, you’re basically downhill into Cross Bay Lake.
[0:19:09 – 0:19:13] Adam: And then from there on the rest of the day, we were going upstream the whole rest of the day.
[0:19:14 – 0:19:21] Adam: So we got to Cross Bay Lake and then we got to Rib Lake and we ran into a couple on the Rib Lake portage who were having a full blown argument.
[0:19:21 – 0:19:24] Adam: The heat had definitely gotten to them a little bit more than it did to us.
[0:19:24 – 0:19:25] Erik: A little sunstroke?
[0:19:25 – 0:19:30] Adam: Yeah, pretty funny, arguing about who’s pulling whose fair share of the weight.
[0:19:30 – 0:19:30] Adam: Oh, no.
[0:19:30 – 0:19:32] Adam: Yeah.
[0:19:32 – 0:19:33] Adam: I don’t know where they came from.
[0:19:33 – 0:19:36] Adam: I assume they probably camped on ham the night before or something.
[0:19:37 – 0:19:48] Adam: So they weren’t having a fun time, so we blew by them into Rib, and then we did stop for a camp, just a little lunch on the Rib Lake campsite, and I wish we had done an audio track of that.
[0:19:48 – 0:19:48] Adam: It’s a nice spot.
[0:19:48 – 0:19:49] Adam: It is a nice spot.
[0:19:49 – 0:19:51] Adam: There’s a lot of hammock potential in there.
[0:19:51 – 0:19:52] Adam: It’s kind of set up, but…
[0:19:53 – 0:19:55] Adam: Overall, Rib Lake’s not that impressive.
[0:19:55 – 0:19:56] Erik: No, the lake itself is a little…
[0:19:56 – 0:20:00] Adam: I’m not sure I’d actually want to stay there, but it was a very good lunch spot.
[0:20:00 – 0:20:07] Adam: And then from there, it’s like three more short portages until… What’s above Long Island there?
[0:20:07 – 0:20:07] Adam: Kent?
[0:20:07 – 0:20:08] Adam: It’s not Kent.
[0:20:08 – 0:20:08] Adam: It’s…
[0:20:09 – 0:20:13] Erik: I thought Rib, and then there was not really anything named in between there.
[0:20:13 – 0:20:14] Adam: Yeah, no, there is.
[0:20:15 – 0:20:16] Adam: Carl?
[0:20:16 – 0:20:17] Adam: Carl, it is.
[0:20:17 – 0:20:24] Adam: It’s Carl with a K. Another Carl with a K. That’s the second Carl lake I’ve been to, and then from there into Long Island.
[0:20:25 – 0:20:28] Adam: We were in Long Island and I was really dragging at that point.
[0:20:28 – 0:20:30] Adam: It was like at least 85.
[0:20:30 – 0:20:33] Adam: The whole day I was just sapped and zapped.
[0:20:33 – 0:20:34] Adam: Sapped and zapped.
[0:20:34 – 0:20:34] Adam: Sapped and zapped.
[0:20:34 – 0:20:36] Erik: Might be the name of this episode.
[0:20:36 – 0:20:40] Adam: We kind of dragged our way down south and we spoke about it previously.
[0:20:40 – 0:20:43] Adam: There’s a beach site on the end of Long Island on the southern end.
[0:20:43 – 0:20:46] Erik: Did you cut across the little portage?
[0:20:46 – 0:20:47] Erik: Yeah, that’s the one from…
[0:20:47 – 0:20:51] Adam: uh, Carl into Long Island is that little, I don’t know, whatever.
[0:20:51 – 0:20:53] Erik: So you didn’t go all, have to go all the way around.
[0:20:53 – 0:20:54] Adam: No, we didn’t do the full paddle around.
[0:20:54 – 0:20:59] Adam: We just did the, the mini, uh, dead man’s portage into the, into Long Island.
[0:20:59 – 0:21:04] Adam: Uh, and then got down to that beach site, right where the Long Island river comes into Long Island there.
[0:21:05 – 0:21:10] Adam: And we determined that at that point we were maybe three or four portages from frost.
[0:21:10 – 0:21:13] Adam: And, uh, we said, hell no, I’m not, I’m not going to another portage.
[0:21:13 – 0:21:14] Erik: We won’t go.
[0:21:14 – 0:21:39] Adam: no i won’t do it and this this site’s open and we immediately took off our our boots and we’re out on the beach just waiting and nice uh that’s when we got the beer out of the pack and it was uh warm beer but it still is refreshing so yeah um that was a really great first day but uh so it ended up being like seven portages and really not that impressive amount of distance um but man the heat boy we got a nice early jump but we ended up having to shut her down early
[0:21:40 – 0:21:41] Erik: Yeah, my God, the heat.
[0:21:41 – 0:21:42] Adam: Yeah, it was bad.
[0:21:42 – 0:21:47] Adam: So there was not really any bugs that first night, just a lot of flying ants in that campsite.
[0:21:47 – 0:21:51] Adam: And then I have to say it was a nice campsite, but the worst fire grade I’ve ever seen.
[0:21:51 – 0:21:52] Adam: I’ll put a picture of it on Instagram.
[0:21:52 – 0:21:53] Erik: Nice, I’d love to see it.
[0:21:53 – 0:21:58] Adam: It was like three inches above the ground, even though we scraped it out as much as we could.
[0:21:58 – 0:22:00] Adam: There was no room under there to do anything.
[0:22:00 – 0:22:04] Adam: And then all the bars were, this was like the oldest fire grade I’ve ever seen.
[0:22:04 – 0:22:05] Adam: The bars were all warped.
[0:22:06 – 0:22:06] Adam: Just ridiculous.
[0:22:06 – 0:22:08] Erik: It’s slowly been sinking into the ground over the years.
[0:22:08 – 0:22:09] Erik: Maybe, that’s what’s happening.
[0:22:09 – 0:22:09] Adam: Yeah.
[0:22:10 – 0:22:19] Adam: So, yeah, we shut her down and had ourselves a nice dinner and set up camp nice and early.
[0:22:19 – 0:22:26] Adam: And I believe it was one of those rare nights where I was actually in the tent and probably dead asleep before it was even dark.
[0:22:26 – 0:22:29] Erik: Well, this time of year, that’s the one thing I’m worried about my trip next week.
[0:22:30 – 0:22:31] Erik: It’s like, what am I going to do all day?
[0:22:32 – 0:22:39] Erik: I mean, it’s light at 5, and you can probably work with the amount of light that’s around until 11 p.m.
[0:22:40 – 0:22:45] Erik: I mean, you can paddle for 16 hours if you wanted.
[0:22:45 – 0:22:46] Adam: Yeah, you could.
[0:22:47 – 0:22:49] Erik: I mean, at the end of the day, you’re coming into a campsite.
[0:22:49 – 0:22:51] Adam: Usually, we had plenty of time.
[0:22:51 – 0:22:57] Adam: Even if we were just taking a two-hour break at that campsite, we could have then repacked in and made our way easily to Frost.
[0:22:57 – 0:22:59] Adam: However, we did not.
[0:22:59 – 0:23:04] Adam: We woke up early the next morning, had a really nice gourmet breakfast with fresh eggs out of the Nalgene.
[0:23:04 – 0:23:05] Erik: I saw that.
[0:23:05 – 0:23:10] Adam: And then we pressed on down up the Long Island River into Gordon and hit our first beaver dam right away.
[0:23:10 – 0:23:14] Adam: As soon as you get in the Long Island River, there’s a really nice beaver dam.
[0:23:14 – 0:23:15] Adam: One of the rare ones you have to go up
[0:23:16 – 0:23:41] Adam: uh in this configuration into gordon there’s a really nice rock wall and then we kind of turned it from there west into uh the big portage going down to frost and that’s where we ran into two gentlemen there and we found out that they were on their way out going back uh and they had been on the beach site on frost which is the one i was aiming for so had we pushed on we don’t run into these two clowns who are out there smoking cigarettes on the portage with their guts out
[0:23:42 – 0:23:46] Adam: You never, you know, you see people out there and like, you’re pretty far in here and they had a big cooler too.
[0:23:46 – 0:23:46] Erik: Yeah.
[0:23:46 – 0:23:53] Adam: I don’t know how many portages they had to do to get in there, but then you see them sitting at the end of the portage just with their guts out smoking a cigarette.
[0:23:53 – 0:23:54] Adam: You don’t see that too often these days.
[0:23:54 – 0:23:54] Erik: No.
[0:23:54 – 0:23:57] Erik: Did they port, did they do the river or were they just in at frost?
[0:23:57 – 0:24:09] Adam: No, they just went into frost and then like everybody we talked to who actually had fished, they had been slaying trout and we had a fishing rod with us, but we didn’t really end up spending a lot of time fishing, like as in almost no time fishing.
[0:24:09 – 0:24:13] Adam: Just because by the time I got to camp, I could never bring myself to get back in the canoe.
[0:24:13 – 0:24:15] Adam: So really I was just fishing from campsites.
[0:24:16 – 0:24:19] Adam: And, uh, but these guys had been slaying, they were on their way out.
[0:24:19 – 0:24:24] Adam: So then we got to frost and we just went to check out that beach site and have a little, uh, snack break there.
[0:24:25 – 0:24:26] Adam: And that’s where we hit the bugs.
[0:24:26 – 0:24:30] Adam: And the first indication we might be in for some bug trouble that second night.
[0:24:31 – 0:24:41] Adam: Uh, we kept on going down the frost river and we, we got into baloney pretty early, but I mean, that was another one where it’s like another, I think we ended up doing eight or nine partridges that day.
[0:24:41 – 0:24:44] Erik: That would have been a long push if you would have skipped the baloney site too.
[0:24:44 – 0:24:44] Erik: Yeah.
[0:24:44 – 0:24:46] Adam: Well then you’re really in trouble.
[0:24:46 – 0:24:50] Adam: And then when we talked to those guys too, I was like, have you seen anybody else going down the river then?
[0:24:50 – 0:24:56] Adam: And they said that day before, um, Monday or Tuesday, they had seen three different groups go down the river.
[0:24:56 – 0:24:56] Erik: That’s scary.
[0:24:57 – 0:25:01] Adam: It’s like, well, I’m really hoping nobody’s going to stay multiple nights on Bologna.
[0:25:01 – 0:25:04] Erik: Yeah, there’s somebody on Bologna and then on Afton.
[0:25:04 – 0:25:08] Adam: And like you said, you can’t see the Bologna campsite from that portage when you get up to the lake.
[0:25:08 – 0:25:11] Adam: So you have to bring everything up and paddle over there.
[0:25:11 – 0:25:14] Adam: So quite the relief when we did finally reach Bologna.
[0:25:14 – 0:25:15] Adam: And that was, again, a relief.
[0:25:15 – 0:25:45] Adam: that was the hottest of the days yeah the guy was literally having a heat stroke episode by this point we got in there i was very hungry i said baby let’s bust out the fried bologna mac and cheese i need an early lunch let’s just we’re gonna hang out here and i’m gonna do some doodles and we’re gonna have a nice time so we do have some good audio to share uh we have a actual campsite review and some other audio from the bologna area so i think we’re gonna cut to that right now yeah we are and we’ll check that out and then we’ll pick up the review after that so let’s let’s hit that field audio
[0:25:45 – 0:25:46] Erik: Catch you on the flip side.
[0:25:49 – 0:25:50] Adam: Adam and Natalie here.
[0:25:50 – 0:25:51] Natalie: Hello.
[0:25:52 – 0:25:56] Adam: We’re live in the field for Tumble Home, a Boundary Waters podcast.
[0:25:56 – 0:25:58] Adam: This is a remote access.
[0:25:59 – 0:26:00] Adam: We’re here on Baloney Lake.
[0:26:00 – 0:26:02] Adam: What do you think of Baloney Lake so far?
[0:26:03 – 0:26:04] Natalie: It’s pretty decent.
[0:26:04 – 0:26:05] Natalie: Not what I expected.
[0:26:05 – 0:26:06] Natalie: There’s a lot of hype.
[0:26:07 – 0:26:10] Adam: It’s a very hard place to get to, that’s for sure.
[0:26:11 – 0:26:15] Adam: We did 16 portages, and how many beaver dams to get here?
[0:26:15 – 0:26:16] Natalie: Six.
[0:26:16 – 0:26:16] UNKNOWN: Six?
[0:26:16 – 0:26:23] Adam: And that was like five down and one up, going with the current.
[0:26:25 – 0:26:25] Adam: So we’re here.
[0:26:26 – 0:26:33] Adam: We got the campfire going, and we’ve opened up one of our homemade wines in our platy preserve.
[0:26:34 – 0:26:35] Adam: Let’s get sponsored.
[0:26:35 – 0:26:36] Adam: Hashtag sponsored.
[0:26:39 – 0:26:43] Adam: They’re in these nice little bags that you can pour your own wine into.
[0:26:44 – 0:26:46] Adam: It’s like a whole bottle of wine in one little bag.
[0:26:47 – 0:26:51] Adam: So we brought a different vintage from the home cellar for each night.
[0:26:51 – 0:26:52] Adam: What are we drinking tonight, Natalie?
[0:26:53 – 0:26:55] Natalie: Rhubarb Mango 2017.
[0:26:56 – 0:26:57] Adam: That’s a good one.
[0:26:58 – 0:27:01] Adam: So we’ve just uncorked the Platy Preserve.
[0:27:01 – 0:27:02] Adam: Call us up, Platy.
[0:27:03 – 0:27:03] Adam: Let’s make a deal.
[0:27:05 – 0:27:06] Adam: On to the campsite review.
[0:27:08 – 0:27:32] Adam: uh we’re gonna start with the landing um i don’t know i give the landing a pretty high grade what do you think i agree it’s nice and smooth what grade are you giving it are we doing number or letter letter i give it an a minus yeah i have it written in my book i think i said a or a minus on the landing it’s pretty decent there’s some like lilies or something growing down there that aren’t flowering yet but
[0:27:33 – 0:27:36] Adam: Very pretty, very reasonable spot to just pull the boat.
[0:27:36 – 0:27:39] Adam: A natural marina kind of effect.
[0:27:39 – 0:27:42] Adam: And then a nice kind of grassy area to pull the boat up here.
[0:27:42 – 0:27:46] Adam: It’s sitting just behind the campsite, behind the camp grate here.
[0:27:47 – 0:27:52] Adam: For the fire grate, the one we had last night on Long Island was a little low and shabby.
[0:27:52 – 0:27:54] Adam: This one looks to be a standard issue.
[0:27:55 – 0:27:57] Adam: It’s got a decent amount of clearance underneath it.
[0:27:57 – 0:27:58] Adam: Not so many rocks.
[0:27:59 – 0:28:01] Adam: Do you have anything to add on the fire grate?
[0:28:01 – 0:28:02] Natalie: It’s a solid A.
[0:28:03 – 0:28:13] Adam: Yeah, I’m going to give it an A. I mean, it doesn’t have the rock features I’d like to see, but it’s facing out on this beautiful bay on a lake that nobody else is going to be camped at but us tonight.
[0:28:15 – 0:28:23] Adam: It’s a beautiful day, and yeah, the overall ambience of it really brings it up, and the seating area is really pretty decent.
[0:28:24 – 0:28:25] Adam: Can’t argue with that.
[0:28:25 – 0:28:30] Adam: And the wood gnome left us a little something to work with here, so pretty happy with the fire-grade area.
[0:28:31 – 0:28:32] Adam: Tent pads, we only really have one.
[0:28:32 – 0:28:35] Adam: Maybe you could squeeze a second one in here.
[0:28:36 – 0:28:38] Adam: But it’s a small group site, no?
[0:28:38 – 0:28:39] Natalie: Very small.
[0:28:40 – 0:28:41] Adam: You set up the tent.
[0:28:41 – 0:28:43] Adam: What do you think of that tent pad overall?
[0:28:43 – 0:28:43] Adam: How level is it?
[0:28:44 – 0:28:45] Natalie: It’s not very level.
[0:28:45 – 0:28:46] Natalie: We’re at a little bit of an incline.
[0:28:47 – 0:28:48] Adam: Well, that happens.
[0:28:49 – 0:28:50] Adam: But it is pretty close to the water.
[0:28:50 – 0:28:54] Adam: I should also mention the fire grid itself is, like, right on the water’s edge here.
[0:28:54 – 0:28:56] Adam: So I always like that, especially last night.
[0:28:56 – 0:29:01] Adam: We were kind of up some stairs and in the woods a little bit, so not really right up on the water.
[0:29:01 – 0:29:03] Adam: But, yeah, overall pretty good.
[0:29:04 – 0:29:05] Adam: Hammock potential?
[0:29:06 – 0:29:07] Natalie: I’d say at least three.
[0:29:07 – 0:29:08] Natalie: It’d be squeezing.
[0:29:09 – 0:29:13] Adam: Yeah, it’s not like a ton, but you could rank it working here with a couple hammocks.
[0:29:13 – 0:29:15] Adam: Again, I wouldn’t come here with a big group.
[0:29:17 – 0:29:20] Adam: And then we are hanging our pack with a bear rope.
[0:29:20 – 0:29:24] Adam: I sometimes don’t, but we are doing it on this trip just because it’s a longer trip.
[0:29:25 – 0:29:27] Adam: We did hang it last night in a big white pine.
[0:29:27 – 0:29:32] Adam: Tonight, there’s some jack pine in here pretty close to the water that might work.
[0:29:33 – 0:29:33] Adam: What do you think?
[0:29:34 – 0:29:35] Natalie: Yeah, I think they’ll work.
[0:29:36 – 0:29:39] Adam: Yeah, it might not be as high of a toss either.
[0:29:39 – 0:29:43] Adam: Last night was pretty comical how high up I had to toss that barrow, but we made it work.
[0:29:44 – 0:29:49] Adam: So overall, I think we’ve given it pretty high marks, so I’m going to go with an A.
[0:29:50 – 0:29:51] Natalie: Overall?
[0:29:51 – 0:29:51] Natalie: Yeah.
[0:29:52 – 0:29:52] Natalie: A, yeah.
[0:29:52 – 0:29:56] Adam: And I should also mention we have a special category for seclusion.
[0:29:57 – 0:30:00] Adam: It is actually rated as beyond classification.
[0:30:00 – 0:30:05] Adam: You can’t even put a figure on the seclusion back here.
[0:30:07 – 0:30:12] Adam: So that’s our report from Bologna campsite, and it is confirmed.
[0:30:12 – 0:30:13] Adam: What did we have for lunch?
[0:30:14 – 0:30:16] Natalie: Bologna and mac and cheese.
[0:30:17 – 0:30:18] Adam: Fry that bologna, baby.
[0:30:18 – 0:30:19] Adam: Fry it.
[0:30:19 – 0:30:20] Adam: Until next time, happy paddling.
[0:30:21 – 0:30:21] Adam: I’m Adam.
[0:30:22 – 0:30:23] Natalie: I’m Natalie.
[0:30:25 – 0:30:25] Erik: All right.
[0:30:25 – 0:30:27] Erik: Thank you for the report from the field.
[0:30:27 – 0:30:28] Erik: Yeah, that was fun.
[0:30:28 – 0:30:28] Erik: That was fun.
[0:30:29 – 0:30:36] Erik: And yeah, we were, during the break, we were talking about how the mind plays tricks.
[0:30:36 – 0:30:36] Erik: It does.
[0:30:37 – 0:30:46] Erik: When you are paddling up to a campsite, especially if it’s a highly sought after one, one that you’ve been picturing, acquiring for the maybe weeks in advance.
[0:30:47 – 0:30:53] Erik: And as you’re paddling up to it, every little thing, as you get closer, looks like a tent or looks like a canoe or looks like a person.
[0:30:53 – 0:30:54] Erik: Is that a handkerchief?
[0:30:54 – 0:30:57] Erik: Yeah, is that a leech locker?
[0:30:57 – 0:30:59] Erik: I think that might be a leech locker.
[0:30:59 – 0:30:59] Adam: Dang it.
[0:30:59 – 0:31:05] Erik: Yeah, it’s crazy how many times that will change over the course of your slow progression towards that campsite.
[0:31:05 – 0:31:06] Adam: Right, right.
[0:31:06 – 0:31:10] Adam: Yeah, and the guys we ran into going into Frost Lake did tell us the day before.
[0:31:10 – 0:31:12] Adam: I asked them, like, did you see anybody else go down the river?
[0:31:13 – 0:31:15] Adam: Said, yesterday we saw three different groups go down the river.
[0:31:15 – 0:31:16] Festivus: Yeah.
[0:31:16 – 0:31:22] Adam: Like, well, most of them are probably just paddling through, but I mean, maybe one of those is just doing an artist retreat on bologna.
[0:31:22 – 0:31:24] Adam: Like there’s a chance we don’t get bologna.
[0:31:24 – 0:31:28] Adam: It was really the only site on this entire trip that I was in my mind.
[0:31:28 – 0:31:29] Adam: It was a must have.
[0:31:29 – 0:31:30] Adam: I got to get bologna.
[0:31:31 – 0:31:35] Adam: So, yeah, like middle of that second day, and it’s hot as hell, and we’re just making our way down the river.
[0:31:36 – 0:31:44] Adam: And always in the back of your head, it’s this little bit of worry that you’re going to finally get up there and portage around that corner and get paddling, and there’s somebody sitting on bologna.
[0:31:44 – 0:31:45] Adam: And then what do you do?
[0:31:45 – 0:31:52] Erik: Could you imagine if you were camped on bologna, and you saw a loaded group coming around the corner, and you’re just like, oh, sorry.
[0:31:52 – 0:31:53] Adam: Oh, I’m so sorry.
[0:31:53 – 0:31:56] Adam: So then it brings me to the point where we did get this on bologna.
[0:31:56 – 0:31:59] Adam: Nobody was there, and we’re just sitting there having a great time.
[0:31:59 – 0:32:04] Adam: And then we were kind of joking about this, and it’s like, we should have left a little note on the portage.
[0:32:04 – 0:32:07] Adam: Like, hey, we are in here for the night.
[0:32:07 – 0:32:10] Adam: Sorry if you’re looking for the site, but we’re in here, so don’t bother.
[0:32:10 – 0:32:12] Erik: Yeah, 5-24-2018.
[0:32:12 – 0:32:18] Adam: Not like bragging, but just like, hey, just a heads up to save somebody an extra paddling or portaging they wouldn’t have to do.
[0:32:19 – 0:32:25] Adam: And then we were really getting goofy, and we go, we should have left a note that said, like, old senior citizen nudist group ahead.
[0:32:26 – 0:32:27] Adam: Do not turn back.
[0:32:27 – 0:32:28] Erik: Yeah.
[0:32:28 – 0:32:35] Adam: But then the triple side of this joke was like, yeah, but then what if like an old group of naked old people showed up?
[0:32:35 – 0:32:37] Erik: We’re here for the nudist retreat.
[0:32:37 – 0:32:38] Erik: We finally found our true calling.
[0:32:39 – 0:32:39] Erik: Oh, my God.
[0:32:39 – 0:32:40] Adam: It was a joke, old people.
[0:32:40 – 0:32:41] Adam: Come on.
[0:32:41 – 0:32:41] Erik: We’re out here.
[0:32:42 – 0:32:43] Adam: Obviously, it was a joke.
[0:32:43 – 0:32:44] Adam: You shouldn’t have come over here.
[0:32:44 – 0:32:45] Adam: Turn around.
[0:32:45 – 0:33:08] Erik: get your naked buns out of here but uh so i don’t know we didn’t end up leaving a note but something that’s good we’re gonna get to some of the etiquette and yeah this is another this is one of those things that you could do in those situations which don’t occur very often might be a nice thing to do a dead-end uh campsite like that yeah bring your right in the rain notebook out there and your pencils and leave a little note make sure it’s dated yeah postmarked
[0:33:09 – 0:33:11] Adam: So, anyhow, yeah, day three.
[0:33:11 – 0:33:19] Adam: And then what I really liked about the Frost River from day two in the upper section going into basically Chase.
[0:33:20 – 0:33:22] Adam: It’s Chase and then Bologna.
[0:33:22 – 0:33:25] Adam: And then from there you go from Chase back to Pencil.
[0:33:25 – 0:33:26] Adam: Pencil.
[0:33:26 – 0:33:35] Adam: And then once you do the little 50 rod portage going out of pencil the next day, that’s when the river really changed for me and started looking like an old trout stream.
[0:33:35 – 0:33:36] Erik: It’s like all river.
[0:33:36 – 0:33:45] Adam: The upper section is more like a little bit more open and wide and sort of flooded beaver pond, little mini lakes with little swift sections in between and…
[0:33:46 – 0:33:50] Adam: Then you get south of pencil or west of pencil downstream there.
[0:33:51 – 0:33:55] Adam: That’s when you also, you come out of that portage and it’s literally into like a tiny little Creek.
[0:33:55 – 0:33:55] Erik: Yeah.
[0:33:55 – 0:33:59] Adam: And you put in, you’re like, all right, I guess we’re going with the, go with the flow this way.
[0:33:59 – 0:34:01] Adam: And that’s where you just start snaking your way down.
[0:34:01 – 0:34:02] Adam: And it’s.
[0:34:02 – 0:34:09] Adam: I think that second day was like 12 beaver dams and another eight portages just to get to Afton, maybe seven portages to Afton.
[0:34:09 – 0:34:12] Erik: You’re going like east, west, just as much as you’re going north, south.
[0:34:12 – 0:34:14] Adam: That’s why it makes it really tricky to measure the distance.
[0:34:14 – 0:34:19] Adam: Even if you had like a GPS on you, I think it would be a little misleading, but yeah.
[0:34:20 – 0:34:21] Adam: Yeah, so we got through that.
[0:34:22 – 0:34:27] Adam: We were starting to feel good about ourselves, but it’s day three, and that’s when we really started to feel good on the portaging and paddling.
[0:34:28 – 0:34:35] Adam: My shoulder really never gave me any issues, but on that section, you’re doing a lot of this backstroking and turning, and it was a little bit of a challenge.
[0:34:35 – 0:34:37] Adam: So by the time we got to Afton…
[0:34:37 – 0:34:43] Adam: It was definitely kind of like maybe we’ll stop in Afton, but that landing on Afton was really junk, and so we never even stopped there.
[0:34:43 – 0:34:46] Adam: And then it’s Afton to Fente?
[0:34:47 – 0:34:48] Erik: Yeah, Fente.
[0:34:48 – 0:34:54] Adam: It’s literally like a straight uphill, and then you literally have to like repel your gear down a cliff to get into Fente.
[0:34:54 – 0:34:56] Erik: I was just thinking about where was that portage?
[0:34:57 – 0:34:57] Erik: It was insane.
[0:34:58 – 0:34:59] Erik: Yeah, that was nuts.
[0:34:59 – 0:35:01] Adam: I got up and through with the food pack.
[0:35:01 – 0:35:08] Adam: And then I went back for the boat and Natalie’s coming up and I just like had to basically like grab her by the pack and help her like lower herself down that cliff.
[0:35:08 – 0:35:13] Adam: And then I went and got the canoe and kind of just kind of fed it down the cliff to her.
[0:35:14 – 0:35:15] Adam: And it was a real team effort.
[0:35:15 – 0:35:16] Adam: I mean, a lot.
[0:35:16 – 0:35:20] Adam: And this is the part of the trip where I was like, man, these landings are really getting to me at this point because there’s some really…
[0:35:21 – 0:35:41] Adam: landings delete it’s like uh it’s like uh i oh man they were though if there any if any set of portages landings deserve that slayer it was these sets like these landings were terrible well this will be the first week where i’ll actually be able to go in and and utilize a bleep
[0:35:41 – 0:36:00] Adam: bleep it out yeah but anyways they were bad and then that one the first uh like 20 rods of the silver falls portage like times 10 yeah it was like concentrated down to like two rods it was like man i wish we would have stopped on afton for that lunch break at this point but we didn’t so then we’re trying to make our way to whipped so yeah then you kind of paddle through fente and
[0:36:02 – 0:36:04] Adam: And that’s a real easy portage into Whipped.
[0:36:04 – 0:36:07] Adam: And then we’re like, okay, we’re going to shut it down and we’re going to have a lunch break on Whipped.
[0:36:07 – 0:36:09] Adam: But we have another treat for you.
[0:36:10 – 0:36:12] Adam: We did do a campsite review on Whipped.
[0:36:12 – 0:36:17] Adam: And I would say there’s just notice for the difference in grades for it being a lunch spot versus an actual camping spot.
[0:36:17 – 0:36:19] Adam: And let’s check that out right now.
[0:36:19 – 0:36:21] Erik: I hear it’s a really nice site.
[0:36:21 – 0:36:22] Adam: All right.
[0:36:22 – 0:36:24] Adam: We’re here in the field with a field recorder.
[0:36:25 – 0:36:26] Adam: It’s a live tumble home in the field.
[0:36:26 – 0:36:27] Adam: This is Adam.
[0:36:27 – 0:36:32] Adam: I’m here with… And we’re here live from Whipped Lake.
[0:36:37 – 0:36:56] Adam: campsite review live in the field if you get the campsite on whipped lake you are a lucky group because you’ll be the only one on whipped lake and it’s kind of out on a bit of a point here in a narrow section of the lake kind of a wind whipped point
[0:36:59 – 0:37:00] Adam: The landing’s an A.
[0:37:00 – 0:37:04] Adam: We just rammed it and beached it right up against this rock.
[0:37:04 – 0:37:04] Adam: It’s perfect.
[0:37:05 – 0:37:06] Adam: Landing gets an A.
[0:37:06 – 0:37:07] Adam: What do you think?
[0:37:08 – 0:37:09] Natalie: Yeah, landing’s A.
[0:37:09 – 0:37:09] Adam: Not bad.
[0:37:10 – 0:37:14] Adam: We’re sitting at the fire grate here, which is kind of out on the point, which I like.
[0:37:15 – 0:37:16] Adam: And it looks high up.
[0:37:16 – 0:37:19] Adam: It looks like some Yahoo’s dumped a bunch of coffee in here or something.
[0:37:19 – 0:37:21] Adam: There’s matches and cigarette butts in there as well.
[0:37:24 – 0:37:25] Adam: And you’ll have that.
[0:37:25 – 0:37:27] Adam: But we can’t hold that against the fire grate.
[0:37:27 – 0:37:28] Adam: It’s not the fire grate’s fault.
[0:37:28 – 0:37:30] Adam: What do you think this fire grate grades out at, Natalie?
[0:37:31 – 0:37:32] Natalie: It’s definitely better than the one last night.
[0:37:34 – 0:37:34] Adam: Yeah, I agree.
[0:37:34 – 0:37:37] Adam: And you’re going to get a little nicer wind in here.
[0:37:37 – 0:37:38] Adam: You could sit either way.
[0:37:38 – 0:37:40] Adam: I felt yesterday we were a little trapped by the wind and the smoke.
[0:37:41 – 0:37:43] Adam: We kind of had to for the bugs, though.
[0:37:43 – 0:37:44] Adam: So what’s your grade?
[0:37:44 – 0:37:46] Natalie: Since it’s missing a bolt, B+.
[0:37:47 – 0:37:53] Adam: It is missing that back left bolt, unfortunately, but good rock around the back of it.
[0:37:54 – 0:37:58] Adam: You got a front load or a side load scenario to the left, so it’s overall pretty great.
[0:37:58 – 0:38:01] Adam: Nice view of the lake here.
[0:38:02 – 0:38:05] Adam: So it’s grading out pretty good, but we got to get tent pads.
[0:38:05 – 0:38:07] Adam: What did you see for the tent pads?
[0:38:07 – 0:38:08] Adam: You want to examine them?
[0:38:09 – 0:38:14] Natalie: Tent pads, there’s one, maybe two if there’s someone in a solo tent.
[0:38:15 – 0:38:16] Natalie: Lots of branches down on them.
[0:38:17 – 0:38:18] Natalie: Looks pretty uneven.
[0:38:18 – 0:38:21] Natalie: I give the tent pads like a D+.
[0:38:21 – 0:38:24] Adam: Oh, that really hurts the overall score.
[0:38:25 – 0:38:30] Erik: There is a nice, like, big, is this a tamarack right in the middle of camp here?
[0:38:30 – 0:38:30] Erik: Yeah.
[0:38:31 – 0:38:35] Adam: So get some points for this large tamarack right behind the fire grate.
[0:38:35 – 0:38:36] Adam: That’s pretty cool.
[0:38:37 – 0:38:38] Adam: Yeah, but there are a lot of trees down.
[0:38:38 – 0:38:43] Adam: Like I can see just from here, I can see a ways up the pooper trail.
[0:38:45 – 0:38:48] Natalie: There’s an anthill about the size of a canoe.
[0:38:48 – 0:38:51] Natalie: If you tipped over a canoe, that’s how big the anthill is.
[0:38:51 – 0:38:54] Adam: That’s at least a two-point deduction on the scoreboard.
[0:38:54 – 0:38:55] Adam: This isn’t going well now.
[0:38:56 – 0:38:57] Adam: How does the latrine look?
[0:38:59 – 0:39:01] Adam: Ugh, this is really going downhill here.
[0:39:03 – 0:39:04] Adam: Hammock potential?
[0:39:06 – 0:39:08] Adam: There’s definitely some hammock potential here.
[0:39:08 – 0:39:10] Adam: There’s nothing to work with off this.
[0:39:10 – 0:39:15] Adam: You could maybe go from this nice big tamarack back to that balsam back there.
[0:39:15 – 0:39:18] Adam: You’re having to contend with the balsam a little bit, but you can make that work.
[0:39:19 – 0:39:21] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:39:21 – 0:39:22] Adam: We’d find something.
[0:39:24 – 0:39:27] Adam: Back there, we’d find something on one of them jack pine trees.
[0:39:28 – 0:39:31] Adam: All right, well, that really drops the overall score.
[0:39:31 – 0:39:32] Adam: It’s Fente.
[0:39:32 – 0:39:43] Adam: It’s, you know, you’d have to do one, two, three, four, five, six, seven portages from round via Terry.
[0:39:44 – 0:39:46] Adam: You do get to paddle through Terry, though, so there’s that.
[0:39:46 – 0:39:50] Adam: I don’t know why you’d come here and then stop here, though.
[0:39:50 – 0:39:52] Adam: It’s a launch spot, plain and simple.
[0:39:52 – 0:39:54] Adam: As a campsite, I’m giving it a solid D.
[0:39:55 – 0:39:57] Natalie: Yeah, solid D. Is that too harsh?
[0:39:57 – 0:40:00] Adam: I mean, the fire pit’s nice, but would you really camp here and have a fire?
[0:40:01 – 0:40:04] Natalie: No, I’d be a little disappointed pulling up to this campsite.
[0:40:04 – 0:40:08] Adam: All right, that’s the final score, Adam and Natalie, for Tumholm.
[0:40:08 – 0:40:11] Adam: We’re giving Whipped Lake campsite a solid D.
[0:40:14 – 0:40:16] Adam: All right, so that was Whipped.
[0:40:16 – 0:40:16] Adam: Whipped.
[0:40:16 – 0:40:19] Adam: I highly recommend you stop there for lunch, absolutely.
[0:40:19 – 0:40:20] Adam: Stop there for a cheese stick.
[0:40:23 – 0:40:27] Adam: So then from Whipped, we’re basically as far west as we’re going to get and heading north.
[0:40:27 – 0:40:32] Adam: And as you heard in that audio, we’re probably going to plan on going all the way from Tuscarora, but then—
[0:40:33 – 0:40:38] Adam: We happen to get ourselves into Mora and then you hit this burn zone and it’s a strange thing.
[0:40:38 – 0:40:49] Adam: We were talking about it before we started recording today, how you’re in this tiny little river and then even like Fente and Whipped are pretty narrow lakes where you really, you know, you just basically paddle down the lake.
[0:40:49 – 0:40:50] Erik: Straightforward.
[0:40:50 – 0:40:50] Adam: Yeah.
[0:40:50 – 0:40:56] Adam: And then you get back into Mora and it just, you come out of this bay and it opens up and it’s a little overwhelming.
[0:40:56 – 0:40:56] Adam: Yeah.
[0:40:56 – 0:41:00] Erik: All of a sudden, you’re like, oh, I have to kind of navigate here again.
[0:41:00 – 0:41:03] Adam: Yeah, and then, like, I had my map out, and I’m kind of looking up and down.
[0:41:03 – 0:41:05] Adam: And, yeah, I don’t know.
[0:41:05 – 0:41:08] Adam: It’s a little strange being back in the lake country.
[0:41:08 – 0:41:12] Erik: It’s almost two days of just kind of having to just go with the flow.
[0:41:12 – 0:41:14] Adam: Yeah, even frost, you’re like, well, it’s –
[0:41:14 – 0:41:20] Adam: you know, pretty big water, but you basically can see the little notch where the river is going to start and you just go for that.
[0:41:21 – 0:41:30] Adam: Um, but yeah, you hit Mora and then there’s all these burnt islands and you kind of like, well, I think I’m going the right way, but you, it’s this little bit of self doubt can creep in there.
[0:41:30 – 0:41:34] Adam: So anyways, we pulled over on the little campsite on the island, uh, Mora three.
[0:41:35 – 0:41:39] Adam: And it was by that point, you know, we had planned on going farther, but it was middle afternoon.
[0:41:39 – 0:41:41] Adam: And, man, this campsite was gorgeous.
[0:41:41 – 0:41:43] Adam: It was by far my favorite campsite of the trip.
[0:41:43 – 0:41:44] Adam: We were talking about it.
[0:41:44 – 0:41:47] Adam: It checked off all the boxes, what we were looking for.
[0:41:47 – 0:41:48] Adam: Beautiful landing.
[0:41:49 – 0:41:53] Adam: The fire grate was nice and high because even the first night, the fire grate was low.
[0:41:53 – 0:41:55] Adam: Even on Bologna, the fire grate was a little low.
[0:41:55 – 0:41:57] Adam: This one was really nice and tall.
[0:41:57 – 0:41:59] Adam: There was a decent amount of firewood just sitting there.
[0:42:00 – 0:42:24] Adam: beautiful amount of cedars just a magical campsite top to bottom everything you would want uh you couldn’t ask for more on mora and uh then we were thinking too because it was coming into memorial day and natalie made the good point she’s like well if we keep going we probably are going to start running into like memorial day traffic it’s thursday night you know if we try and go all the way to tuscarora we’ll probably get a campsite and we would have in hindsight but we’re
[0:42:24 – 0:42:28] Adam: There’s also a chance we get to Tuscarora, and then we’re having to, like, search around for a campsite.
[0:42:28 – 0:42:34] Adam: So we just ended up shutting it down on Mora, and it was really my favorite site of the whole trip.
[0:42:34 – 0:42:35] Adam: And did some reading there.
[0:42:36 – 0:42:40] Adam: We had brought Man Without a Country by Kurt Vonnegut, and just reading in there.
[0:42:42 – 0:42:44] Erik: Couldn’t have asked for Mora.
[0:42:44 – 0:42:45] Adam: He couldn’t have.
[0:42:45 – 0:42:47] Adam: Man, it was beautiful.
[0:42:47 – 0:42:49] Adam: And actually, I finally did catch a fish just a –
[0:42:50 – 0:42:53] Adam: A little tiny pike off that campsite, but at least it ended the skunking.
[0:42:55 – 0:42:58] Adam: Off the schneid, as they say.
[0:42:58 – 0:43:02] Adam: It’s like, well, what’s the difference between leaving from Tuscarora or leaving from Mora in the morning?
[0:43:02 – 0:43:04] Adam: Not a big deal either way.
[0:43:04 – 0:43:10] Adam: We left pretty early the next morning, and we were basically paddling through Tuscarora at 8 in the morning and started the long portage.
[0:43:11 – 0:43:40] Adam: and we ran into our good friends bruce and steve on the long portage so we saw them on portage number one on tuesday and then we ran into the same guys again on portage number 32 on friday morning and so chatted with them a little bit again but how was your trip they caught a bunch of fish of course they were having a great time and they were you know just leapfrogging their way through the portage but it’s always kind of neat when you meet somebody who you really get along with like that and then you i don’t know magically just see them at the end of your trip too like i don’t know it was pretty neat so
[0:43:41 – 0:43:46] Erik: And you got to experience Terry in the morning light, which is the best time of day to experience Terry.
[0:43:46 – 0:43:52] Adam: It was, and we were singing the Terry Flap song going through there, and Terry was beautiful.
[0:43:52 – 0:43:53] Adam: Burnt but beautiful.
[0:43:53 – 0:43:54] Adam: Burnt but beautiful.
[0:43:54 – 0:43:57] Erik: It’s like the Char Siu of lakes.
[0:43:57 – 0:44:08] Adam: Yeah, and honestly, we were on 18 beaver dams at that point, but then going out of Crooked, or I’m sorry, going out of Mora on your way up to Terry there, there is one more little tiny beaver dam you got to kind of run up, but we had so much raw…
[0:44:09 – 0:44:26] Adam: power at that point by day four of the trip we could have paddled up a two-foot beaver dam i’m i’m sure of it but this was a very short beaver dam and we just busted it bad made it look made it look very silly just uh ran right through it with them into questionable construction up into terry and then uh
[0:44:26 – 0:44:41] Adam: yeah crooked and uh owl and then we saw some cool like uh red horse or suckers or something in the little creek by the portage there yeah we’ve had a bunch of reports of that happening out on claywater this spring yeah it’s uh there goes the school bus
[0:44:41 – 0:44:42] Erik: Yep, kids are home from school.
[0:44:43 – 0:44:46] Erik: Sounds like he’s driving a little too fast for the precious cargo on board.
[0:44:47 – 0:44:57] Adam: And, yeah, busted through Tuscarora, seen Bruce and Steve again, and then a nice easy paddle through Missing Link, and then our final portage, and then just a leisure paddle to cross around.
[0:44:58 – 0:45:02] Adam: Just, you know, once again, it thought maybe the rain was going to come in on us on Thursday or Friday.
[0:45:02 – 0:45:03] Adam: It never did.
[0:45:03 – 0:45:03] Adam: Never did.
[0:45:03 – 0:45:05] Adam: It just dry as a bone the whole trip.
[0:45:05 – 0:45:06] Erik: Dry and dusty.
[0:45:06 – 0:45:08] Erik: We were getting crispy up here for a little while.
[0:45:08 – 0:45:14] Erik: I was definitely thinking after the holiday weekend, if we don’t get any rain, there are burn restrictions coming in.
[0:45:14 – 0:45:14] Adam: Yeah, I know.
[0:45:14 – 0:45:16] Adam: I see it’s raining quite a bit.
[0:45:16 – 0:45:17] Adam: Quetico dropped their burn restriction.
[0:45:17 – 0:45:19] Adam: We’re good to go here, so.
[0:45:19 – 0:45:19] Erik: Yep.
[0:45:19 – 0:45:21] Adam: Man, overall, a magical trip.
[0:45:22 – 0:45:24] Adam: I’m so excited we finally got to do it.
[0:45:24 – 0:45:29] Adam: I’ve been posting a lot of pictures on Instagram from the trip, and I’ve got a lot more to post.
[0:45:30 – 0:45:36] Adam: But we had two instances on the trip where we didn’t run into a lot of people, and we did run into some cool people.
[0:45:37 – 0:45:40] Adam: But then there was a couple instances where people really irked me.
[0:45:42 – 0:45:45] Adam: And that’s the subject of this week’s Question of the Week.
[0:45:46 – 0:45:46] Erik: Question of the Week.
[0:45:46 – 0:45:48] Erik: Doot, doot, doot, doot, doot, doot, doot, doot, doot, doot.
[0:45:48 – 0:45:50] Erik: High five on the Frost River, though, man.
[0:45:50 – 0:45:51] Natalie: Yes.
[0:45:51 – 0:45:52] Erik: Nice job.
[0:45:52 – 0:45:52] Erik: Yeah.
[0:45:52 – 0:45:53] Adam: I hope you guys enjoyed it.
[0:45:53 – 0:45:54] Adam: We banged it out.
[0:45:54 – 0:46:04] Adam: I would say it was way more difficult than I was intending it to be or thought it ever could be, but we were ready even though it was early season and we ran into a heat wave.
[0:46:04 – 0:46:07] Adam: We really made it happen, but not for the faint of heart.
[0:46:07 – 0:46:09] Adam: I’m just going to say that one more time.
[0:46:09 – 0:46:11] Adam: You better be ready if you’re going to try that route.
[0:46:11 – 0:46:14] Erik: Yeah, it’s like a full day of doing kettlebells pretty much.
[0:46:14 – 0:46:14] Adam: Yeah.
[0:46:16 – 0:46:20] Adam: So the tumble home question of the week is, what are your pet peeves in the Boundary Waters?
[0:46:20 – 0:46:31] Adam: I know it’s a place that gives us a lot of pleasure, but there are some things when you’re out there, we talked about in the winchy episode, sometimes you just run into people or things that are just like, what the heck?
[0:46:31 – 0:46:33] Adam: Usually it’s not people face-to-face.
[0:46:33 – 0:46:34] Adam: A lot of it’s like micro-litter.
[0:46:35 – 0:46:36] Adam: Um, that really just burns me up.
[0:46:36 – 0:46:41] Adam: We’re finding like a sig butt or something, but, uh, two instances on a fresh river trip.
[0:46:41 – 0:46:43] Adam: I’m going to hit on quick and then we’ll get to all of your responses.
[0:46:44 – 0:46:49] Adam: Uh, night one on Long Island, we’re on the very Southern end of Long Island where the river comes into the lake.
[0:46:49 – 0:46:53] Adam: And I had originally thought, yeah, couldn’t be a great spot to maybe try for some lake trout.
[0:46:53 – 0:46:58] Adam: Uh, though you got the current coming in there, but we pulled in there and it’s really shallow, like sandy Bay, really the whole Bay.
[0:46:59 – 0:47:03] Adam: Um, you’re not really going to expect to see a lot of lake trout in that kind of, uh, environment.
[0:47:04 – 0:47:11] Adam: We’re sitting in camp, and then, of course, here comes two older guys in a canoe at sunset.
[0:47:12 – 0:47:13] Adam: There’s no wind at all.
[0:47:13 – 0:47:15] Adam: You could have heard them if they were two miles away.
[0:47:16 – 0:47:17] Adam: But, yeah, where were they trolling?
[0:47:18 – 0:47:21] Adam: Literally 10 feet off of our campsite at sunset.
[0:47:21 – 0:47:21] Adam: Okay.
[0:47:22 – 0:47:24] Adam: In like five feet of sandy water.
[0:47:24 – 0:47:25] Adam: Getting snagged.
[0:47:25 – 0:47:26] Adam: Getting snagged.
[0:47:26 – 0:47:30] Adam: They’re out there undoing snags, chuckling, yelling to each other.
[0:47:30 – 0:47:38] Adam: Like our canoe is clearly, we are right there, clearly right in front of our campsite, just making all the noise in the world.
[0:47:38 – 0:47:39] Adam: Super annoying.
[0:47:39 – 0:47:41] Adam: So shout out to whoever those idiots were.
[0:47:41 – 0:47:42] Adam: You’re idiots.
[0:47:42 – 0:47:43] Adam: Don’t do that.
[0:47:44 – 0:47:45] Erik: Two listeners, gone.
[0:47:45 – 0:47:45] Adam: Yeah.
[0:47:46 – 0:47:49] Adam: Take a hike back to Iowa, you blue whistlers.
[0:47:49 – 0:47:49] Erik: Oh, no.
[0:47:50 – 0:47:55] Adam: Night three, we’re on Mora three, which was a beautiful campsite.
[0:47:55 – 0:47:56] Adam: And these guys I couldn’t have been too upset with.
[0:47:56 – 0:47:59] Adam: We hadn’t seen anybody this day, and it was like, eh.
[0:48:00 – 0:48:03] Adam: I had the audacity to say out loud, yeah, we haven’t seen anybody today.
[0:48:03 – 0:48:04] Adam: Maybe we won’t see anybody.
[0:48:04 – 0:48:08] Adam: And literally 10 minutes later, we hear some people coming down from Terry.
[0:48:09 – 0:48:11] Adam: And it’s like, okay, well, they’re probably going to go by.
[0:48:11 – 0:48:12] Adam: And we can hear them.
[0:48:12 – 0:48:14] Adam: It’s two canoes full of youth.
[0:48:15 – 0:48:23] Adam: And here they come, and they’re just yelling and chuckling and slapping each other on the backs and smacking the water with their paddles and just making a lot of noise.
[0:48:24 – 0:48:25] Adam: Very annoying.
[0:48:26 – 0:48:26] Adam: Again, no wind.
[0:48:27 – 0:48:28] Adam: And they were going to Little Sag.
[0:48:28 – 0:48:33] Adam: We could hear their entire travel plans because they were screaming them across the lake.
[0:48:33 – 0:48:37] Adam: And then, of course, you can’t see that campsite until you’re kind of around the corner and right on top of it.
[0:48:38 – 0:48:38] Erik: Yeah.
[0:48:38 – 0:48:40] Adam: How far were they from shore, Eric?
[0:48:41 – 0:48:42] Erik: Hmm.
[0:48:43 – 0:48:44] Erik: A canoe length.
[0:48:44 – 0:48:45] Adam: Oh, maybe.
[0:48:45 – 0:48:49] Adam: I could have easily thrown a large piece of wood out over their canoe.
[0:48:50 – 0:48:50] Adam: That’s how close they were.
[0:48:50 – 0:48:56] Adam: They literally came within two canoes full of youth five feet from our campsite.
[0:48:56 – 0:48:57] Erik: Let it be known, the youth are out there.
[0:48:58 – 0:49:00] Adam: But at that point, I was in – I was in a pretty good mood.
[0:49:00 – 0:49:02] Adam: We had finished the Frost River.
[0:49:02 – 0:49:05] Adam: I wasn’t as heat-stroked as the first day, so I wasn’t as annoyed by it.
[0:49:06 – 0:49:09] Adam: Just kind of gave them a peace sign and have a good trip, boys.
[0:49:09 – 0:49:11] Erik: And they probably didn’t really know.
[0:49:11 – 0:49:12] Erik: They didn’t know, but that’s the thing.
[0:49:12 – 0:49:13] Adam: Like, have your map out.
[0:49:13 – 0:49:16] Adam: You know there’s probably a campsite coming up on that corner.
[0:49:17 – 0:49:19] Adam: And just don’t be yelling and – like, Jesus.
[0:49:19 – 0:49:20] Erik: Yeah, I know.
[0:49:20 – 0:49:21] Adam: We’re in a wilderness.
[0:49:21 – 0:49:21] Adam: Keep the volume down.
[0:49:22 – 0:49:26] Erik: It’s pretty hard, especially when you’re in big groups, you’re having a good time, especially on a day like that.
[0:49:27 – 0:49:30] Adam: No, and they’re on their way out for probably a great weekend of fishing.
[0:49:30 – 0:49:31] Adam: So that one I wasn’t too upset with.
[0:49:31 – 0:49:35] Adam: And they weren’t literally just trolling around in front of our campsite where they could see our gear.
[0:49:36 – 0:49:39] Adam: As soon as they saw us, even one of them was like, oh, gosh, a campsite.
[0:49:39 – 0:49:39] Adam: Sorry.
[0:49:40 – 0:49:43] Adam: And kind of gave the hand up thing like, I’m sorry, we didn’t see you there.
[0:49:43 – 0:49:46] Adam: Whereas those old guys on that first night were literally just like,
[0:49:46 – 0:49:49] Adam: messing around in front of our campsite for an hour making a bunch of noise.
[0:49:49 – 0:49:50] Erik: Retiring.
[0:49:50 – 0:49:51] Erik: On a huge lake.
[0:49:52 – 0:49:52] Erik: Get out of here.
[0:49:53 – 0:49:54] Adam: You’re old enough to know better.
[0:49:54 – 0:49:56] Adam: At least these youngsters, you know, they don’t know any better.
[0:49:57 – 0:49:57] Adam: Whatever.
[0:49:57 – 0:50:00] Adam: But they were having fun, and they kept paddling.
[0:50:00 – 0:50:03] Adam: They got out of there right away, so we could kind of just laugh about it.
[0:50:03 – 0:50:05] Erik: Yeah, I don’t mind it when they’re on their way by.
[0:50:05 – 0:50:07] Adam: Two more, I guess, just a curmudgeon.
[0:50:07 – 0:50:09] Erik: Well, the second one is a little on the edge.
[0:50:09 – 0:50:10] Adam: Get away from my campsite.
[0:50:11 – 0:50:18] Erik: On the edge of being a curmudgeon, the second one for sure, but the first one, just for me personally, I would feel really awkward being in front of somebody’s campsite.
[0:50:18 – 0:50:19] Erik: Why?
[0:50:19 – 0:50:20] Adam: There’s not a lake as big as Long Island.
[0:50:20 – 0:50:20] Erik: Yeah.
[0:50:21 – 0:50:24] Adam: Why would you choose to sit there and fish right in front of somebody else’s camp?
[0:50:24 – 0:50:26] Adam: Go fish in your own campsite if that’s what you want to do.
[0:50:26 – 0:50:27] Erik: Yeah.
[0:50:27 – 0:50:28] Erik: There’s a lot of lake out there.
[0:50:28 – 0:50:29] Adam: Why even get in your boat?
[0:50:30 – 0:50:30] Adam: Right.
[0:50:30 – 0:50:34] Adam: So now that I’ve ruined all the fun, let’s get into your responses.
[0:50:34 – 0:50:37] Adam: What’s peeving you off, folks, on Facebook?
[0:50:37 – 0:50:37] Adam: Shannon.
[0:50:37 – 0:50:37] Adam: Yeah.
[0:50:38 – 0:50:43] Adam: I mostly travel in a group of women and without fail always have men that try to help us.
[0:50:43 – 0:50:47] Adam: At entry points and portages, they try to help us carry our heavy stuff.
[0:50:48 – 0:50:51] Adam: I’m sure they’re just trying to be nice, but they act like we’re too weak to handle it.
[0:50:52 – 0:50:52] Adam: Amen.
[0:50:52 – 0:50:55] Adam: We don’t need people mansplaining the portages to you, Shannon.
[0:50:55 – 0:51:19] Erik: yeah i agree totally uh uh interesting unique not something that i would have ever ever thought of thanks for that yeah but it makes total sense yeah and i can see that happening here in the boundary waters you can handle your stuff i’m sure of it yeah especially you know maybe a maybe a landing portage landing if you’re putting in the entry point but if you’re yeah five six portages in
[0:51:19 – 0:51:27] Adam: Back when I used to drive the towboat here, I mean, yeah, and then as a matter of courtesy, you’d offer the guests like, hey, I’ll take your stuff through the first portage.
[0:51:28 – 0:51:31] Adam: Maybe you end up getting a tip out of it or something, but that’s just being an employee of a lodge.
[0:51:31 – 0:51:31] Erik: Yeah.
[0:51:32 – 0:51:37] Adam: You’re out there and you just see a group of women out there trying to do their thing, so leave them alone.
[0:51:37 – 0:51:38] Adam: They can handle it.
[0:51:38 – 0:51:44] Erik: At the same time, you know, it’s all right if you’re double portaging and you happen to be on one side of a portage and you want to be a nice person.
[0:51:44 – 0:51:46] Erik: Yeah, you’re going back the other way.
[0:51:46 – 0:51:46] Erik: Sure.
[0:51:46 – 0:51:54] Erik: Assuming that the women need help, I can totally see that being something that happens out there.
[0:51:54 – 0:51:57] Adam: But, you know, you could also just be trying to be helpful.
[0:51:57 – 0:51:57] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:51:58 – 0:51:59] Adam: But yeah, I totally get it, Shannon.
[0:51:59 – 0:52:02] Erik: Probably comes across a little bit condescending for sure.
[0:52:02 – 0:52:03] Adam: Right on.
[0:52:03 – 0:52:07] Erik: Not what I would have assumed to be the pet peeves of some, but you know.
[0:52:07 – 0:52:10] Adam: I’m just complaining about old guys fishing in front of me.
[0:52:10 – 0:52:12] Adam: But yeah, there’s other real problems out here.
[0:52:13 – 0:52:16] Erik: Paul, it’s much too hard to choose one.
[0:52:17 – 0:52:19] Erik: It must be a tie between litter and excessive noise.
[0:52:20 – 0:52:20] Adam: Oh, there we go.
[0:52:20 – 0:52:21] Adam: I agree with you on this.
[0:52:21 – 0:52:22] Adam: Both of those.
[0:52:22 – 0:52:23] Adam: It’s tough to see.
[0:52:23 – 0:52:26] Adam: We saw a little bit of litter, a lot of excessive noise.
[0:52:27 – 0:52:28] Adam: We didn’t really run into that many people, but…
[0:52:29 – 0:52:29] Erik: Yeah.
[0:52:30 – 0:52:33] Adam: James, bright colored canoes and clothing and gear.
[0:52:34 – 0:52:38] Adam: Well, I have a white gel coat canoe, so I’m not sure I can get on board with that.
[0:52:38 – 0:52:40] Adam: I mean, what canoe really fits in?
[0:52:41 – 0:52:42] Adam: Camo.
[0:52:42 – 0:52:48] Erik: But for sure tents, you know, I know that that’s one of the recommendations in the Leave No Trace video.
[0:52:48 – 0:52:48] Erik: Yeah.
[0:52:49 – 0:52:53] Erik: That’s why we like sending out the green Eureka Timberlines.
[0:52:53 – 0:52:54] Erik: Yeah, it kind of blends in really nice.
[0:52:54 – 0:52:54] Erik: Dark green.
[0:52:55 – 0:52:57] Adam: Yeah, I don’t think we have anything too crazy.
[0:52:57 – 0:53:01] Adam: Probably the worst thing I have is our gravity bag filter for water is kind of a bright red color.
[0:53:02 – 0:53:04] Adam: But I like to kind of hang that down at the landing.
[0:53:04 – 0:53:06] Adam: It’s bright, but it’s not crazy.
[0:53:07 – 0:53:09] Adam: And then other people can see that.
[0:53:09 – 0:53:12] Adam: So maybe it alerts them that, hey, this campsite’s occupied.
[0:53:12 – 0:53:12] Adam: Yeah.
[0:53:13 – 0:53:14] Adam: But, yeah, I don’t know.
[0:53:14 – 0:53:17] Adam: Yeah, you see people with, like, flags flying sometimes.
[0:53:17 – 0:53:18] Adam: Yeah, well, they’re paddling.
[0:53:18 – 0:53:19] Adam: I mean, I don’t know, though.
[0:53:19 – 0:53:23] Adam: I brought, like, LED little party lights and hung them on my tent.
[0:53:24 – 0:53:26] Adam: So I’m guilty probably on this one, too.
[0:53:26 – 0:53:32] Erik: Nick, trash in campsites and porridge trails, finding tinfoil in campfire rings, granola wrapper.
[0:53:33 – 0:53:36] Erik: Yeah, granola wrapper corners and bread ties, to name a few.
[0:53:36 – 0:53:37] Erik: Bread ties.
[0:53:37 – 0:53:38] Erik: The, uh…
[0:53:39 – 0:53:47] Erik: The ranger out on Isle Royale who gives the little tutorial when you get off the boat refers to that as micro litter.
[0:53:47 – 0:53:48] Erik: It’s micro litter.
[0:53:48 – 0:53:57] Erik: And there are very few campsites that you will not find tinfoil in the campsite or in the fire ring or little granola wrapper corners.
[0:53:57 – 0:54:01] Adam: They just found a plastic bag on one of the portages just in the middle of the trail.
[0:54:02 – 0:54:03] Adam: It’s like, what the heck?
[0:54:03 – 0:54:05] Erik: Unless the litter is cash, I don’t want to see it.
[0:54:06 – 0:54:08] Adam: I’ve never found littered cash in the Boundary Lines.
[0:54:08 – 0:54:09] Erik: I have one time.
[0:54:09 – 0:54:09] Erik: Wow.
[0:54:10 – 0:54:17] Erik: I was portaging from Clearwater to Caribou, and it was too, like, they had just been, like, spit out of an ATM machine.
[0:54:17 – 0:54:19] Erik: Crisp 20s laying on top of a rock.
[0:54:20 – 0:54:21] Erik: I was like, this is where I need to be.
[0:54:22 – 0:54:45] Adam: uh hunniban hunniban hunnibans mike oh this is our friend deke deke other people pulling up to my campsite to ask questions or make small talk oh he’s clearly our friend i go into the wilderness for solitude and this destroys the experience and illusion of isolation gosh it’s like he almost was listening to our last episode three other people like that yeah yep
[0:54:46 – 0:55:09] Erik: mad ups for that one yeah mark just one word kayaks yeah and i yeah we responded that you know it’s one of those things that yeah it doesn’t really make much of a difference what other people are paddling but there is something that kind of bugs me about them kayaks they they responded uh you know again with yeah it’s kind of like when you see people out there with coolers here you go cool is your big uh
[0:55:11 – 0:55:29] Adam: i agree it’s wrong it’s totally wrong it just doesn’t feel right it doesn’t feel right yep nathan says people stacking rocks yeah um i don’t know one person’s sculpture is another person’s eyesore and another person’s dolman
[0:55:29 – 0:55:29] Adam: Yeah.
[0:55:31 – 0:55:34] Erik: Brian, the fact that I can’t get up there as much as I’d like.
[0:55:34 – 0:55:35] Erik: That is a pet peeve.
[0:55:36 – 0:55:37] Adam: That’s a nice response.
[0:55:38 – 0:55:38] Adam: Thank you.
[0:55:38 – 0:55:39] Adam: That’s wholesome.
[0:55:39 – 0:55:40] Adam: Just quit your job and move up here.
[0:55:41 – 0:55:42] Adam: There’s plenty of jobs.
[0:55:42 – 0:55:44] Adam: Always looking for people to come up and work.
[0:55:44 – 0:55:46] Adam: I can find you a job in about three minutes, Brian.
[0:55:46 – 0:55:47] Erik: Just as long as you can find housing.
[0:55:47 – 0:55:49] Adam: Yeah, that housing is a real trick.
[0:55:49 – 0:55:51] Adam: Aaron, loud people.
[0:55:51 – 0:55:51] Adam: Yes.
[0:55:52 – 0:55:52] Adam: Amen.
[0:55:52 – 0:55:53] Adam: Huzzah, huzzah.
[0:55:53 – 0:55:54] Erik: Yeah.
[0:55:54 – 0:55:56] Erik: This is when we get to- Now we’re getting into the junk.
[0:55:56 – 0:56:00] Erik: The realization that apparently people don’t like poop and pee.
[0:56:01 – 0:56:01] Adam: Nikki.
[0:56:03 – 0:56:03] Adam: Oh, I’m sorry.
[0:56:03 – 0:56:04] Adam: Is it your turn?
[0:56:04 – 0:56:04] Adam: Yeah.
[0:56:04 – 0:56:05] Adam: I jumped on you there.
[0:56:05 – 0:56:06] Erik: Nikki, wild rice.
[0:56:07 – 0:56:12] Erik: Poop and toilet paper on portages and campsites and also unsafe behavior like running rapids.
[0:56:13 – 0:56:15] Erik: Too long to scout with inexperienced canoeists.
[0:56:16 – 0:56:21] Erik: Yeah, I mean, that part is not really a pet peeve of mine, but it just doesn’t make sense.
[0:56:22 – 0:56:23] Erik: It causes more trouble for everybody.
[0:56:24 – 0:56:31] Erik: But yeah, the teepee, especially, you can tell it’s somebody who’s scared to find the latrine at night because it’s right on the edge of camp.
[0:56:32 – 0:56:32] Adam: Right.
[0:56:32 – 0:56:42] Erik: Or the worst is when you’re especially up in Quetico and you’re like, hey, this looks like a nice rock I could use to kind of guy out my tent and you lift it and it’s just like… Do not turn over rocks.
[0:56:42 – 0:56:44] Erik: Yeah, don’t just put it under a rock in camp.
[0:56:45 – 0:56:46] Erik: It’s not that hard.
[0:56:46 – 0:56:47] Adam: Put some houses left under that rock.
[0:56:47 – 0:56:47] Adam: Yeah.
[0:56:49 – 0:56:49] Adam: Oh, boy.
[0:56:50 – 0:56:53] Adam: So, yeah, we got a bunch of people here upset about teepee, basically.
[0:56:53 – 0:56:55] Erik: Basically, especially on portages.
[0:56:55 – 0:56:58] Adam: Yeah, I guess a lot of people are leaving teepee on portages.
[0:56:58 – 0:57:01] Adam: I have seen it.
[0:57:01 – 0:57:02] Erik: You can read Tori’s comment here.
[0:57:02 – 0:57:05] Adam: Tori, teepee on the sides of portage trails.
[0:57:05 – 0:57:07] Adam: Ladies, it’s called a dry dip.
[0:57:07 – 0:57:08] Adam: You can do it for two or three days.
[0:57:08 – 0:57:09] Adam: Trust me.
[0:57:09 – 0:57:10] Erik: Drip dry.
[0:57:10 – 0:57:11] Adam: Drip, what did I call it?
[0:57:11 – 0:57:12] Adam: Dry drip.
[0:57:13 – 0:57:14] Adam: Yeah, don’t dry drip.
[0:57:14 – 0:57:15] Adam: You got to drip dry.
[0:57:16 – 0:57:18] Erik: Dry dripping is dangerous, but drip dry is fun.
[0:57:18 – 0:57:20] Adam: Yeah, drip dry is okay for two or three days.
[0:57:20 – 0:57:22] Adam: So thank you for the commentary.
[0:57:25 – 0:57:27] Erik: Jeremy, just another one-word response.
[0:57:27 – 0:57:28] Erik: Pipelines.
[0:57:28 – 0:57:30] Erik: Generally a pretty big pet peeve, I’d say.
[0:57:30 – 0:57:32] Adam: I would hate that if I would have seen a pipeline.
[0:57:32 – 0:57:34] Adam: I’m glad they didn’t put that pipeline through Terry.
[0:57:36 – 0:57:40] Adam: And we got some smart aleck here at the end saying no Wi-Fi.
[0:57:40 – 0:57:41] Erik: Real jokester gaffster.
[0:57:41 – 0:57:48] Adam: Yeah, we don’t have Wi-Fi here in Studio A2, and there’s no Wi-Fi on the Frost River Loop.
[0:57:48 – 0:57:48] Adam: And that’s fine.
[0:57:49 – 0:57:51] Adam: I think he’s being sarcastic.
[0:57:51 – 0:57:57] Erik: And now we get to move on to, since we are in the remote studio A2, we got it on paper.
[0:57:58 – 0:58:01] Erik: How many people are printing out Reddits, subreddits here?
[0:58:03 – 0:58:13] Erik: The most upvoted comment from the question of what is your Bungie Waters pet peeve comes from Rojo Ryder.
[0:58:14 – 0:58:17] Erik: Again, it seems to be a common theme.
[0:58:17 – 0:58:20] Erik: For me, it has to be litter and especially cigarette waste.
[0:58:21 – 0:58:28] Erik: I understand sometimes you accidentally leave a litter trace, but the amount of garbage I find on some trips astounds me.
[0:58:28 – 0:58:31] Erik: And as a former smoker, pick up your damn butts.
[0:58:31 – 0:58:32] Erik: Yep.
[0:58:32 – 0:58:36] Erik: The amount of smoking waste I’ve picked up over the years is too damn high.
[0:58:36 – 0:58:38] Adam: Yeah, you can…
[0:58:39 – 0:58:39] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:58:39 – 0:58:42] Adam: It’s pretty noble of you to be picking it up.
[0:58:43 – 0:58:47] Adam: I’ve picked up waste, but I find with cigarette butts especially, I do not want to pick it up.
[0:58:47 – 0:58:48] Erik: That’s the trouble with the cig butts.
[0:58:49 – 0:58:54] Adam: Yeah, I will be more than likely to just leave that campsite and leave it there.
[0:58:54 – 0:58:56] Adam: And it’s unfortunate, but…
[0:58:57 – 0:58:58] Adam: I don’t want to carry that crap with me.
[0:58:59 – 0:59:00] Erik: It’s still one of those things.
[0:59:00 – 0:59:10] Erik: I don’t know what the mentality is or the thinking behind it, but cigarette butts, people assume that just flicking them on the ground and stepping them out is just like fun.
[0:59:10 – 0:59:12] Adam: You should literally be executed for that.
[0:59:12 – 0:59:14] Adam: Well, I don’t know about that.
[0:59:14 – 0:59:15] Erik: We need another bleep.
[0:59:16 – 0:59:19] Erik: I’m going to really get some good practice this week on bleeping.
[0:59:20 – 0:59:24] Adam: Well, if you bleep that, they’re going to think I said something even dirtier than execution.
[0:59:24 – 0:59:25] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:59:25 – 0:59:27] Adam: But seriously, what is wrong with people?
[0:59:27 – 0:59:30] Adam: Why would you flick a cigarette butt into the wilderness like that?
[0:59:30 – 0:59:32] Erik: Yeah, that’s your habit and your problem.
[0:59:32 – 0:59:34] Adam: You should not be allowed.
[0:59:34 – 0:59:39] Adam: I will soften my tone, but you should definitely be kicked out of the boundary waters for life.
[0:59:39 – 0:59:41] Erik: You should be responsible for your cigarette butts.
[0:59:41 – 0:59:41] Erik: With a shot collar or something.
[0:59:41 – 0:59:42] Adam: Maybe try and come back.
[0:59:42 – 0:59:44] Adam: It just shocks you in the neck until you leave.
[0:59:44 – 0:59:44] Erik: Mm-hmm.
[0:59:45 – 0:59:51] Adam: Uh, we got another kind of response under this one from canoe two and two sunflower seed shells.
[0:59:51 – 0:59:52] Adam: Yeah.
[0:59:52 – 0:59:57] Adam: And I’m seeing like pistachios, like somebody is leaving a, like a trail so they can find their way back home or something.
[0:59:57 – 0:59:58] Adam: Like, are you kidding me?
[0:59:59 – 1:00:00] Adam: Are you portaging?
[1:00:00 – 1:00:03] Adam: Are you like, just like hanging out on this portage throwing shells?
[1:00:03 – 1:00:06] Adam: There’s so many, sometimes you’re just like, how is this possible?
[1:00:06 – 1:00:10] Erik: Yeah, the response from Yola Lucy is a good one, too.
[1:00:10 – 1:00:15] Erik: And it makes sense for everything, even if it’s not in the park.
[1:00:15 – 1:00:21] Erik: But this user says, yes, we went to a campsite and there were radish tops all over and sunflower seeds.
[1:00:22 – 1:00:28] Erik: Just because it breaks down doesn’t mean the next camper wants to walk all over it by the campfire.
[1:00:28 – 1:00:36] Erik: And that’s kind of one of those things where you see people throwing banana peels or eggshells or apple cores.
[1:00:36 – 1:00:37] Erik: And yeah, I get it.
[1:00:37 – 1:00:39] Erik: It’s not styrofoam, but it’s still a trace.
[1:00:40 – 1:00:40] Erik: It’s still there.
[1:00:40 – 1:00:41] Erik: Yes, it is a trace.
[1:00:41 – 1:00:42] Erik: A trace is a trace.
[1:00:42 – 1:00:43] Erik: Like pack it in, pack it out.
[1:00:43 – 1:00:45] Erik: It’s not really, you’re not composting.
[1:00:46 – 1:00:48] Erik: You’re leaving behind a sign that you were there.
[1:00:48 – 1:00:49] Adam: I have a little game.
[1:00:49 – 1:00:59] Adam: We usually take some Camcha with us, and it comes with a resealable bag, and then you try and see how much litter you can fit in a one bag and then stuff that in the side of the food bag.
[1:00:59 – 1:01:01] Erik: And they’re not that big of bags.
[1:01:01 – 1:01:02] Adam: It’s not, and it doesn’t weigh anything.
[1:01:02 – 1:01:03] Adam: Quit being a jerk.
[1:01:04 – 1:01:05] Adam: Pick up your trash.
[1:01:05 – 1:01:09] Adam: Obviously, nobody listening to this podcast is the ones doing this stuff, though.
[1:01:09 – 1:01:09] Adam: That’s the thing.
[1:01:09 – 1:01:14] Adam: If you’re taking the time to listen to a podcast about the Boundary Waters, you probably have the ethics to not be a total idiot about it.
[1:01:15 – 1:01:18] Adam: Yeah, we’re not really – I don’t think we’re changing any – We’re not preaching to the right choir here.
[1:01:18 – 1:01:24] Erik: Yeah, nobody’s putting the finger up to their mouth and mouth is agape looking up into the sky.
[1:01:24 – 1:01:25] Erik: Oh, my.
[1:01:25 – 1:01:28] Adam: I love the Boundary Waters, but I guess I shouldn’t leave seed shells everywhere.
[1:01:28 – 1:01:29] Erik: Yeah.
[1:01:30 – 1:01:35] Adam: Leroy218 says, people taking breaks on heavily used portages –
[1:01:36 – 1:01:38] Adam: People being inefficient on heavily used portages.
[1:01:39 – 1:01:42] Adam: People blocking heavily used portages with gear blowouts and canoes.
[1:01:42 – 1:01:43] Erik: Gear blowouts.
[1:01:43 – 1:01:46] Adam: People with loose equipment staged all over the landing on heavily used portages.
[1:01:47 – 1:01:49] Adam: I guess in short, portage etiquette.
[1:01:49 – 1:01:49] Erik: Yeah.
[1:01:50 – 1:01:52] Erik: Especially depending on the time of year too.
[1:01:52 – 1:01:55] Adam: Yeah, I partially agree with you on this one.
[1:01:55 – 1:02:03] Adam: We definitely a few times on this trip ran into, oh, here we came up to the couple that was fighting going into RIB and they just had their stuff everywhere.
[1:02:04 – 1:02:07] Adam: Walked up to the portage and, like, they literally were like, oh, hey, people?
[1:02:07 – 1:02:08] Adam: People.
[1:02:08 – 1:02:08] Adam: Oh, sorry.
[1:02:08 – 1:02:12] Adam: I guess we better stop arguing and littering our crap all over the portage.
[1:02:12 – 1:02:14] Adam: Like, we’ll move this canoe out of the way for you.
[1:02:15 – 1:02:16] Adam: You see that a lot.
[1:02:16 – 1:02:20] Adam: But, like, then on the other hand, we’re on the Tuscarora portage, which is listed at 428 rods.
[1:02:21 – 1:02:24] Adam: I think it’s more like 450, 470, something like that.
[1:02:24 – 1:02:24] Adam: A lot of mud.
[1:02:25 – 1:02:29] Adam: A lot of unhappy and angry looking people that you run into on that portage.
[1:02:29 – 1:02:31] Adam: It’s pretty comical sometimes.
[1:02:32 – 1:02:42] Adam: But yeah, there’s a lot of people that kind of do a leapfrog approach where they take their packs halfway and then go back and get their canoe and take that all the way through and then come back and get their packs.
[1:02:42 – 1:02:44] Adam: Or they leave stuff at the end of the portages.
[1:02:44 – 1:02:48] Adam: But on that portage, I feel like there’s a lot of good designated spots where the trail widens out.
[1:02:48 – 1:02:50] Adam: You can see where there’s like rest areas.
[1:02:50 – 1:02:50] Adam: Yeah, like…
[1:02:51 – 1:02:54] Adam: Oh, I came up to a spot where there’s somebody already had their canoe parked halfway through the portage.
[1:02:55 – 1:02:57] Adam: And we were just trying to single portage at that point.
[1:02:57 – 1:03:01] Adam: And we were still on that thing for almost an hour, but it’s like, okay, well, here’s a big wide spot.
[1:03:01 – 1:03:02] Adam: Somebody else has stopped here.
[1:03:02 – 1:03:04] Adam: So we just stopped and put our canoe down.
[1:03:04 – 1:03:08] Adam: And then while we were sitting there, these two other people went by us going the other way.
[1:03:08 – 1:03:12] Adam: So it was a good, what am I trying to say?
[1:03:12 – 1:03:14] Adam: It’s just a common sense spot to pull over and stop.
[1:03:14 – 1:03:20] Adam: But yeah, sometimes you run into people who are just stopped on the narrowest, muddiest section of trail and you can’t get around them.
[1:03:20 – 1:03:21] Adam: So then you have to stop.
[1:03:21 – 1:03:23] Adam: That’s, I guess, a little bit etiquette.
[1:03:23 – 1:03:28] Erik: Just pull your gear off to the side and, I mean, don’t have lost out the food pack and have lunch.
[1:03:28 – 1:03:33] Adam: Yeah, not everybody can single portage the Tuscarora to Missing Link portage.
[1:03:33 – 1:03:33] Adam: True.
[1:03:33 – 1:03:33] Adam: True.
[1:03:34 – 1:03:37] Erik: There’s plenty of room on both ends of that porch to get your gear off to the side, though.
[1:03:37 – 1:03:37] Erik: Use common sense.
[1:03:37 – 1:03:38] Erik: Yeah.
[1:03:38 – 1:03:40] Erik: Common sense is not so common.
[1:03:40 – 1:03:41] Erik: That should be the name of this episode.
[1:03:43 – 1:03:44] Adam: The Broke Down.
[1:03:44 – 1:03:45] Adam: Cool name.
[1:03:45 – 1:03:53] Adam: Our friend The Broke Down says, in addition to litter, it’s people who alter campsites by dragging rocks around or chopping seats into stumps, that sort of thing.
[1:03:53 – 1:03:53] Adam: Yeah.
[1:03:53 – 1:03:54] Adam: I mean…
[1:03:54 – 1:03:56] Erik: When it gets excessive, yeah, totally.
[1:03:56 – 1:03:59] Adam: Or you see, like, yeah, just…
[1:03:59 – 1:04:02] Adam: The last site we were in had a lot of nice cedar in it, and there was…
[1:04:03 – 1:04:17] Adam: An unlimited amount of dead standing firewood across the lake where the burn had gone through from Cavity Lake, and yet still live cedars just cut in half, and then the bottom half is sitting there still growing, missing its top.
[1:04:17 – 1:04:17] Erik: Yeah.
[1:04:18 – 1:04:19] Adam: Yeah.
[1:04:19 – 1:04:23] Adam: That’s just general poor attitude and etiquette with your hatchet or saw.
[1:04:23 – 1:04:27] Erik: Yeah, and that’s more just like whatever the…
[1:04:29 – 1:04:54] Erik: decision process that goes into collecting firewood more than anything else but you know i think what the person was talking about was the extravagant benches that you see people making where they are like yeah shaving things down nice and flat yeah and a little bit too much time on your hands that’s why you bring a kurt vonnegut book if you’re bored in camp just read enrich yourself don’t enrich the campsite because i guarantee you not everybody feels that way
[1:04:55 – 1:04:56] Adam: Getting a little bit preachy today.
[1:04:57 – 1:04:58] Erik: Well, that’s what this episode was going to turn into.
[1:04:58 – 1:04:59] Erik: Yeah, it is.
[1:04:59 – 1:05:00] Adam: It’s about etiquette.
[1:05:00 – 1:05:01] Adam: The airing of grievances.
[1:05:01 – 1:05:03] Adam: Yeah, we’re grieving.
[1:05:04 – 1:05:06] Erik: The broke down just right back.
[1:05:06 – 1:05:07] Erik: Oh, and another one.
[1:05:07 – 1:05:08] Adam: And another thing.
[1:05:08 – 1:05:10] Adam: Yeah, this is in the same vein.
[1:05:10 – 1:05:13] Erik: I have a special anger in my heart for people who ring birch trees.
[1:05:14 – 1:05:17] Erik: Stripping all the bark from around a tree’s trunk kills it.
[1:05:17 – 1:05:18] Adam: You horrible vandals.
[1:05:19 – 1:05:19] Adam: Agreed.
[1:05:20 – 1:05:23] Adam: I’m not laughing at the vandals, but it was a funny way of putting it.
[1:05:24 – 1:05:26] Erik: I think we’ve talked about it before.
[1:05:27 – 1:05:31] Erik: There is an unlimited supply of birch bark.
[1:05:31 – 1:05:35] Adam: That’s the next robo-rider that comes in, especially when there’s always plentiful birch bark on the ground to be had.
[1:05:36 – 1:05:38] Adam: Never had a problem finding birch bark to burn.
[1:05:38 – 1:05:39] Adam: Exactly.
[1:05:39 – 1:05:44] Erik: Especially just throughout the day, just think, if you’re on a portage, how heavy is birch bark?
[1:05:45 – 1:05:46] Adam: I was just looking through all my packs.
[1:05:47 – 1:05:57] Adam: I’m missing a pair of glasses right now since we moved, and I was looking through all my packs this morning, and literally every single pack I own has some sort of coil of birch bark stuffed in one of the pockets.
[1:05:57 – 1:05:58] Adam: That’s the way to do it.
[1:05:58 – 1:05:58] Adam: It weighs nothing.
[1:05:58 – 1:06:02] Erik: Because nobody ever thinks to pick up birch bark when they’re portaging over the course of the day.
[1:06:02 – 1:06:02] Adam: But it’s easy to do.
[1:06:02 – 1:06:10] Adam: If you’re on your last portage or second-to-last portage today, grab some birch bark and throw it in the top of your pack if you’re that concerned about finding it in camp.
[1:06:10 – 1:06:13] Erik: Yeah, gouging into the tree to cut out, like, basically the trunk of it.
[1:06:13 – 1:06:15] Adam: That’s just as bad as taking down a live tree.
[1:06:16 – 1:06:16] Adam: Yeah.
[1:06:16 – 1:06:17] Adam: Because then that’s what you’re doing.
[1:06:18 – 1:06:19] Erik: It looks just as bad.
[1:06:19 – 1:06:20] Erik: Yeah, it is a real eyesore.
[1:06:22 – 1:06:23] Adam: Dew042.
[1:06:23 – 1:06:24] Adam: Hello, Dew.
[1:06:24 – 1:06:25] Adam: Auxiliary Packers.
[1:06:26 – 1:06:29] Adam: Oh, you secretly packed in 10 pounds of granola?
[1:06:30 – 1:06:32] Adam: Oh, you secretly brought your own personal tent and rainfly?
[1:06:33 – 1:06:36] Adam: Oh, you secretly brought your own personal cook set and stove?
[1:06:36 – 1:06:38] Adam: Oh, you packed, yeah.
[1:06:38 – 1:06:41] Adam: Sure glad that space wasn’t occupied by some actual group gear.
[1:06:41 – 1:06:42] Adam: That’s fine.
[1:06:42 – 1:06:50] Adam: So what you’re saying is you’re in a big group and then everybody’s carrying a lot of weight and then like, oh, somebody brought some extra crap for themselves that wasn’t really necessary.
[1:06:51 – 1:06:51] Erik: Yeah.
[1:06:52 – 1:06:53] Adam: Sneaky Packers.
[1:06:53 – 1:06:53] Adam: You got to watch them.
[1:06:54 – 1:06:56] Erik: I’ve never actually run into that problem.
[1:06:56 – 1:06:56] Erik: Yeah.
[1:06:56 – 1:06:59] Adam: I mean, we usually like put everything into one big pack.
[1:06:59 – 1:07:03] Adam: So like there’s a auditing process before you even hit the landing really.
[1:07:03 – 1:07:05] Adam: It’s like, wait, what’s this big bag of stuff for?
[1:07:05 – 1:07:09] Adam: Like I’ve got literally one t-shirt and one extra pair of socks.
[1:07:09 – 1:07:09] Adam: What are you bringing?
[1:07:10 – 1:07:10] Erik: Yeah.
[1:07:10 – 1:07:13] Adam: Oh, well, I’m bringing two extra pairs of slippers.
[1:07:13 – 1:07:15] Adam: That doesn’t bother me.
[1:07:15 – 1:07:17] Adam: And a whole car battery and electric fence.
[1:07:18 – 1:07:19] Adam: Don’t worry about it.
[1:07:19 – 1:07:20] Erik: Well, bears, you know.
[1:07:20 – 1:07:20] Erik: Yeah.
[1:07:21 – 1:07:25] Erik: And then back right again, do lily dippers.
[1:07:25 – 1:07:26] Adam: Lily dippers.
[1:07:26 – 1:07:28] Erik: Yeah, that’s a pet peeve, especially.
[1:07:28 – 1:07:32] Erik: There’s a potential I might be running into some of those next week, but we’ll see.
[1:07:35 – 1:07:40] Adam: We missed one here about somebody who had stashed a bunch of dank chocolate bars back by their tent.
[1:07:40 – 1:07:45] Erik: I think that might be, well, it could be dank chocolate, but I’m thinking it might be dark chocolate.
[1:07:45 – 1:07:47] Adam: Oh, dank dark chocolate.
[1:07:47 – 1:07:48] Adam: Yeah, maybe.
[1:07:48 – 1:07:48] Adam: Good stuff.
[1:07:50 – 1:07:51] Adam: All right.
[1:07:52 – 1:07:53] Adam: Printing, printing.
[1:07:54 – 1:07:57] Adam: Litter and reading material stashed at campsites?
[1:07:58 – 1:08:04] Adam: Biggest pet peeve for me is people in my party who talk the whole time while we’re paddling, but I can paddle ahead of them and get out of earshot.
[1:08:05 – 1:08:07] Adam: What’s the reading material referencing?
[1:08:07 – 1:08:17] Erik: I think sometimes there’s those poetry canisters or journals that people leave for like, hey, this is how our trip is going.
[1:08:17 – 1:08:18] Adam: I always just, you know.
[1:08:18 – 1:08:22] Adam: When I go back to the pooper, I just bring the map and look for funny named little tiny lakes.
[1:08:22 – 1:08:22] Adam: Yeah.
[1:08:23 – 1:08:27] Erik: But the, uh, yeah, the, the talking all the time, that is just one of those things.
[1:08:27 – 1:08:36] Erik: That’s why the longer you’re out there, the better, I think, because it does take a couple of days for people to be like, oh, I can just enjoy my surroundings.
[1:08:36 – 1:08:41] Erik: It’s not awkward that I’m not talking right now because basically every other.
[1:08:41 – 1:08:46] Adam: By like day three of a trip, you can go like a couple of lakes and portages without barely saying anything.
[1:08:46 – 1:08:47] Adam: It’s not weird.
[1:08:47 – 1:08:48] Adam: It’s totally fine.
[1:08:48 – 1:08:49] Erik: Or around the campfire at the end of the night.
[1:08:50 – 1:08:52] Erik: You don’t have to constantly be having conversation.
[1:08:52 – 1:08:53] Erik: I totally agree with that.
[1:08:55 – 1:08:57] Erik: UptownBP1.
[1:08:57 – 1:09:01] Erik: Reading these comments, I feel lucky to have not seen any trash or garbage out there.
[1:09:01 – 1:09:02] Erik: Some people.
[1:09:03 – 1:09:08] Erik: For me, I would have to say it has to be anyone in my camp who somehow ends up in a bad mood.
[1:09:08 – 1:09:09] Erik: Yeah, that’s a hard thing, too.
[1:09:09 – 1:09:10] Erik: It can happen.
[1:09:10 – 1:09:11] Adam: I don’t know.
[1:09:11 – 1:09:19] Adam: I mean, when you get on a hot day where you’re really doing a lot of portaging, certain people, like myself, can get grumpy sometimes.
[1:09:19 – 1:09:21] Adam: But you can’t carry that in the camp.
[1:09:22 – 1:09:22] Adam: Have a snack.
[1:09:23 – 1:09:24] Adam: You’re obviously just a little hangry.
[1:09:25 – 1:09:25] Adam: Brush it off.
[1:09:25 – 1:09:28] Erik: As you’re moving on the portages, find a little bit of here.
[1:09:28 – 1:09:34] Erik: You know, you get to the end of the pack, and you’re at the end of the portage, and you throw that pack off, and, yeah, you give it a little curse.
[1:09:34 – 1:09:37] Erik: But if you’re sitting around the campfire at the end of the day, still in a bad mood.
[1:09:38 – 1:09:39] Adam: Leave it on the portage.
[1:09:39 – 1:09:40] Erik: Bonjour is probably easy for you.
[1:09:40 – 1:09:40] Erik: Yeah.
[1:09:40 – 1:09:41] Erik: Last one here.
[1:09:42 – 1:09:43] Adam: This is a good one to finish on here.
[1:09:43 – 1:09:44] Adam: Canoe two.
[1:09:44 – 1:09:46] Adam: I guess mine is really trash left behind.
[1:09:46 – 1:09:49] Adam: Sigs, wrapper corners, twist ties, bread tabs, et cetera.
[1:09:50 – 1:09:54] Adam: I found some pretty egregious plastic and whatnot around some latrines, too.
[1:09:54 – 1:09:55] Adam: Leave no trace, suckers.
[1:09:55 – 1:09:55] Adam: Come on.
[1:09:56 – 1:09:57] Adam: Yes.
[1:09:57 – 1:09:59] Erik: That pretty much sums it up.
[1:09:59 – 1:09:59] Erik: Yeah.
[1:10:01 – 1:10:04] Erik: They are redoing the Leave No Trace video.
[1:10:05 – 1:10:09] Erik: EOS Forest is working on that, and I feel like it should end with Leave No Trace, suckers.
[1:10:09 – 1:10:10] Erik: Yeah.
[1:10:10 – 1:10:10] Erik: Come on.
[1:10:10 – 1:10:11] Erik: Come on.
[1:10:11 – 1:10:12] Erik: Come on.
[1:10:13 – 1:10:14] Adam: Yeah, so…
[1:10:15 – 1:10:16] Erik: I think it’s litter.
[1:10:16 – 1:10:23] Adam: Yeah, obviously, top one is litter, and maybe loud noises is second in various ways.
[1:10:23 – 1:10:26] Adam: There’s a lot of different ways to leave litter or loud noises.
[1:10:26 – 1:10:27] Erik: It’s all a trace.
[1:10:27 – 1:10:30] Adam: Yeah, it’s all traces, so just, you know, limit that.
[1:10:30 – 1:10:32] Adam: Basically, that’s what it all was.
[1:10:32 – 1:10:34] Adam: We don’t need to tell you good folks that.
[1:10:34 – 1:10:35] Adam: You understand.
[1:10:36 – 1:10:39] Adam: But, yeah, you know, we can always…
[1:10:40 – 1:10:44] Adam: Try our best to just make sure everybody else is aware of the situation.
[1:10:44 – 1:10:46] Erik: We’ve got a lot of potential names for this show.
[1:10:47 – 1:10:47] Erik: Yeah.
[1:10:47 – 1:10:47] Erik: I don’t remember.
[1:10:47 – 1:10:52] Erik: There was one in the beginning that we said, and then the airing of Grievances might be a good one.
[1:10:53 – 1:10:56] Adam: Yeah, that one’s probably a top candidate right now.
[1:10:56 – 1:10:58] Adam: But come on, or just come on.
[1:10:58 – 1:10:59] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[1:10:59 – 1:11:00] Erik: Leave no trace, suckers.
[1:11:01 – 1:11:02] Erik: Leave no trace, suckers.
[1:11:02 – 1:11:03] Erik: Episode 019.
[1:11:03 – 1:11:03] Erik: Yeah.
[1:11:04 – 1:11:09] Adam: All right, well, thanks for all your thoughts and contributions this week.
[1:11:09 – 1:11:10] Adam: We sure appreciate it.
[1:11:10 – 1:11:13] Adam: It’s fun to just kind of, you know, gripe a little bit.
[1:11:14 – 1:11:18] Adam: But, yeah, what’s up next for us?
[1:11:19 – 1:11:31] Erik: Well, I’m on the trail next week, so if you’re real sleuths, you’re real gumshoes out there, you might be able to figure it out that we’re going to be recording back-to-back episodes here.
[1:11:32 – 1:11:33] Erik: We’re just going to cat out of the bag this.
[1:11:34 – 1:11:40] Erik: Yeah, so we are going to be talking about Mountain Lake in about five minutes, but you won’t hear it for a week.
[1:11:40 – 1:11:41] Erik: Yeah, you have to wait.
[1:11:41 – 1:11:45] Adam: Because you’re not here in the studio with us, so too bad.
[1:11:45 – 1:11:48] Erik: I will only be around enough time to post the episode.
[1:11:48 – 1:11:49] Erik: So there you go.
[1:11:49 – 1:11:51] Erik: We gave him a real… Wow, that’s a good tease.
[1:11:52 – 1:11:54] Erik: Maybe a little bit too much inside baseball there, though.
[1:11:54 – 1:11:55] Erik: I don’t know.
[1:11:55 – 1:11:56] Adam: They’ll figure it out.
[1:11:56 – 1:11:56] Adam: All right.
[1:11:56 – 1:11:57] Adam: Well, thanks for listening.
[1:11:57 – 1:12:01] Adam: You can check us out online on the internet.
[1:12:01 – 1:12:02] Adam: So check us out.
[1:12:02 – 1:12:08] Adam: Also, Tumble Home Cast on the Instagram, posting lots of Frost River pictures and getting lots of good comments there.
[1:12:08 – 1:12:15] Adam: TumbleHomeCast at gmail.com if you want to shoot us a direct message, and also online on the Facebook at Tumble Home Cast at Boundary Waters Podcast.
[1:12:16 – 1:12:19] Adam: Until next week from Mountain Lake, thank you for listening to our grievances.
[1:12:19 – 1:12:21] Adam: This has been episode 019 of Tumble Home.
[1:12:21 – 1:12:24] Adam: We sure appreciate your participation and listening.
[1:12:24 – 1:12:25] Adam: My name is Adam.
[1:12:26 – 1:12:26] Erik: I’m Eric.
[1:12:27 – 1:12:28] Adam: Happy paddling.
[1:12:28 – 1:12:29] Adam: See you out there.
[1:12:29 – 1:12:29] Adam: Bye.
[1:12:30 – 1:12:32] Erik: Now we have two catchphrases.
[1:12:32 – 1:12:34] Erik: Happy paddling and see you out there.
[1:13:37 – 1:13:41] Festivus: The tradition of Festivus begins with the airing of grievances.
[1:13:42 – 1:13:44] Festivus: I got a lot of problems with you people.
[1:13:44 – 1:13:46] Festivus: Now, you’re going to hear about it.