055: Moose Lake East

Episode Transcript

[0:00:35 – 0:00:40] Adam: Welcome to Tumble Home, a Boundary Waters podcast.
[0:00:41 – 0:00:46] Adam: My name is Adam, and with me, as always, in Studio V, is my good friend Eric.
[0:00:47 – 0:00:48] Adam: Hello, Eric.
[0:00:48 – 0:00:50] Erik: Thank you for welcoming me properly.
[0:00:51 – 0:00:59] Erik: Unlike my introduction to the show last week where I just completely ignored you and went right into sponsorships.
[0:00:59 – 0:00:59] Adam: It’s okay.
[0:00:59 – 0:01:00] Adam: I’m here.
[0:01:00 – 0:01:01] Adam: I’ll always be here.
[0:01:03 – 0:01:09] Adam: Tumble Home is, as always, brought to you by Clearwater Lodge and Outfitters.
[0:01:10 – 0:01:12] Adam: It’s a historic lodge on the Gunflint Trail.
[0:01:13 – 0:01:16] Adam: Stop by next time you’re in our neck of the woods.
[0:01:17 – 0:01:22] Adam: And also by our great friends and listeners just like you.
[0:01:23 – 0:01:23] Adam: Thank you.
[0:01:24 – 0:01:29] Adam: And specifically our good friends on Tumble Home, Patreon.
[0:01:30 – 0:01:31] Erik: Link in the show notes.
[0:01:32 – 0:01:32] Adam: Helping us out.
[0:01:33 – 0:01:36] Adam: And every little bit counts.
[0:01:36 – 0:01:38] Adam: We do appreciate it.
[0:01:38 – 0:01:38] Erik: Thank you.
[0:01:38 – 0:01:39] Erik: And
[0:01:41 – 0:01:47] Adam: We brought ourselves a little treat back from our trip to Minneapolis during Midwest Mountaineering.
[0:01:49 – 0:01:52] Adam: We caught our eye on this large beer.
[0:01:52 – 0:01:57] Adam: It’s been in the fridge for almost a month now.
[0:01:57 – 0:02:01] Adam: We saw it and we knew it had to be a show sponsor.
[0:02:02 – 0:02:22] Erik: This seems like the way the microbreweries are going, which is kind of, for me, if I worked or was in any way, shape, or form associated with the Foster’s Brewing Company, I’d be like, hey, we’ve been doing this for like 20 years.
[0:02:23 – 0:02:24] Adam: It’s a big, big can.
[0:02:24 – 0:02:27] Adam: Everybody’s getting on the big, big can game.
[0:02:27 – 0:02:28] Adam: 750 milliliters of pure joy.
[0:02:32 – 0:02:33] Adam: In one can.
[0:02:33 – 0:02:40] Adam: Today’s show sponsor is from our good friends at Broken Clock Brewing Cooperative.
[0:02:40 – 0:02:45] Adam: This is a Maverick and Goose Cherry Lime Goose.
[0:02:46 – 0:02:48] SPEAKER_04: This is maybe one of the most…
[0:02:50 – 0:02:53] Erik: One of the most delicious things I’ve tasted in a long time.
[0:02:53 – 0:03:01] Adam: So we had one of these while we were down there, and we liked it so much, we’re like, we’ve got to go back and get another one for a show sponsor.
[0:03:01 – 0:03:07] Erik: I think if we have listeners who have some of the same vices and…
[0:03:11 – 0:03:32] Erik: times that they spend with friends there’s always that moment where you’re like it’s it’s the friday or that saturday night we’re like we gotta go back and get more of this we gotta do this and then the next morning you’re like whatever let’s let’s just get out of town let’s go let’s just go but this really speaks to the level of how good this beer is
[0:03:32 – 0:03:37] Adam: Growing up as a child, one of my favorite movies of all time was Top Gun.
[0:03:38 – 0:03:38] Adam: Absolutely.
[0:03:39 – 0:03:44] Adam: And so the facade of this jumbo can really spoke to me.
[0:03:45 – 0:03:55] Adam: When we saw it on the shelf, it is a beautiful pair of aviator sunglasses on a palmy Pacific beach.
[0:03:56 – 0:03:59] Erik: I think we should definitely share this can artwork.
[0:03:59 – 0:04:03] Adam: I have a picture of this on the Stone Arch Bridge in Minneapolis, actually.
[0:04:03 – 0:04:06] Adam: I will definitely try and put that on the Instagram.
[0:04:06 – 0:04:07] Adam: Well, I’ll get this one just in case.
[0:04:07 – 0:04:09] Adam: Make sure you get it before this one goes away.
[0:04:09 – 0:04:10] Adam: Before it’s gone.
[0:04:11 – 0:04:17] Adam: A couple fighter jets cruising across a sun-streaked sky.
[0:04:18 – 0:04:22] Adam: And then with aviator font over the top, Maverick and Goose.
[0:04:23 – 0:04:23] Adam: I mean, Goose.
[0:04:23 – 0:04:24] Erik: Goose.
[0:04:24 – 0:04:24] Erik: Goose.
[0:04:25 – 0:04:26] Erik: Well, here’s your cracking audio.
[0:04:27 – 0:04:28] Erik: I cannot wait.
[0:04:31 – 0:04:43] Adam: that’s a cavernous cavernous beer I didn’t notice that they have the canned on date and batch number just like hand stenciled on this thing
[0:04:44 – 0:04:45] Erik: Oh, my Lord.
[0:04:46 – 0:04:47] Erik: I’ve said it once.
[0:04:47 – 0:04:47] Erik: I’ll say it again.
[0:04:48 – 0:04:53] Erik: That might be one of the best things I’ve tasted in a long, long time.
[0:04:53 – 0:04:55] Erik: Increable.
[0:04:55 – 0:04:57] Erik: Broken clock brewing if you’re out there.
[0:04:58 – 0:05:00] Erik: We’ve never begged for a beer sponsorship before.
[0:05:00 – 0:05:02] Adam: We really want you to be our real sponsor.
[0:05:02 – 0:05:03] Erik: I am begging you.
[0:05:03 – 0:05:05] Erik: Will you be our sponsor?
[0:05:06 – 0:05:11] Erik: We’ll give you ultimate and forever beer sponsorship if you just send us a variety.
[0:05:11 – 0:05:12] Adam: I’ll bring you a pop and a wheel.
[0:05:13 – 0:05:14] Adam: Yes.
[0:05:14 – 0:05:15] Erik: Personally.
[0:05:15 – 0:05:18] Erik: One of those or anything that you do.
[0:05:18 – 0:05:25] Erik: I imagine if you do something as well as you do this one beer, everything else is probably just as incredible.
[0:05:25 – 0:05:27] Adam: I love the jumbo.
[0:05:27 – 0:05:28] Adam: It’s not just a tall.
[0:05:28 – 0:05:29] Adam: It’s also wide.
[0:05:30 – 0:05:32] Adam: It’s a true silo beer.
[0:05:33 – 0:05:34] Erik: It’s out of Minneapolis.
[0:05:34 – 0:05:35] Erik: I didn’t even know.
[0:05:35 – 0:05:36] Erik: Heck, yeah, it is.
[0:05:36 – 0:05:38] Erik: That’s a thick silo right there.
[0:05:38 – 0:05:40] Erik: That’s your thick silo, boy.
[0:05:40 – 0:05:42] Erik: Okay.
[0:05:43 – 0:05:44] Erik: All right.
[0:05:45 – 0:05:45] Adam: It’s a pylon.
[0:05:46 – 0:05:46] Erik: Yeah.
[0:05:47 – 0:05:47] Erik: So, yeah, we’re here.
[0:05:48 – 0:05:52] Erik: This is coming out on Memorial Day weekend.
[0:05:52 – 0:05:54] Adam: Happy Memorial Day.
[0:05:54 – 0:05:56] Adam: Happy Memorial Day.
[0:05:56 – 0:05:58] Adam: Can’t really wish a happy Memorial Day.
[0:05:58 – 0:05:59] Adam: No, you can’t.
[0:05:59 – 0:06:01] Adam: Enjoy your Memorial Day.
[0:06:01 – 0:06:01] Erik: Yeah.
[0:06:01 – 0:06:06] Erik: Hey, good luck buying a mattress.
[0:06:06 – 0:06:31] Erik: actually we may be in the mattress uh market right now see that’s what you gotta do you gotta hang out that’s what memorial day is for at this point consumerism yeah exactly yeah you can’t like happy memorial day and uh happy memorial day to you too that’s not what it’s for but crazy d’s i think i think people just see it as a three-day weekend more than anything it really is it’s just a long weekend and um
[0:06:32 – 0:06:33] Adam: So make the most of it.
[0:06:34 – 0:06:36] Adam: I’m going to hopefully stay in the deck.
[0:06:37 – 0:06:38] Adam: That’s my big news.
[0:06:38 – 0:06:39] Adam: Yeah.
[0:06:39 – 0:06:39] Adam: Stay in the deck.
[0:06:40 – 0:06:41] Adam: Before the bugs get too bad.
[0:06:42 – 0:06:49] Adam: Although I’m sure as soon as I crack the stain open, the bugs will emerge from the swamp and land in the stain.
[0:06:50 – 0:07:02] Adam: the bugs are want to do it’s two things you know in life if you want bugs get out the gel coat or get out the stain yeah the bugs will arrive they you can count on it it’s like clockwork
[0:07:03 – 0:07:15] Erik: Yeah, no, it’s the three-day weekend, and we didn’t say where we’re recording from this week, but I don’t know if we really settled on anything last week.
[0:07:16 – 0:07:18] Adam: I like Studio V. Studio V?
[0:07:18 – 0:07:19] Adam: Studio Views.
[0:07:20 – 0:07:20] Adam: What?
[0:07:21 – 0:07:21] Adam: Views?
[0:07:22 – 0:07:24] Erik: Or Vista.
[0:07:25 – 0:07:28] Erik: There’s really no reason to hide it at this point.
[0:07:28 – 0:07:30] Erik: It’s my new house.
[0:07:31 – 0:07:33] Erik: This is my new house that we’re recording from.
[0:07:33 – 0:07:44] Erik: Speaking of staining, my first house, never really had that experience where you’re spending the weekend working on the house, doing some…
[0:07:45 – 0:07:46] Erik: Might check out some wallpaper.
[0:07:46 – 0:07:47] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:07:47 – 0:07:48] Adam: I don’t know if we have enough time.
[0:07:48 – 0:07:57] Erik: Yeah, like up to for 30 whatever years, it’s been like, what are these dummies doing working on their houses?
[0:07:57 – 0:07:59] Adam: It’s called sweat equity, Eric.
[0:07:59 – 0:08:01] Erik: Yeah, and now it’s like, now I’m here.
[0:08:01 – 0:08:04] Erik: I bought a wheelbarrow the other day.
[0:08:05 – 0:08:05] Adam: Welcome.
[0:08:06 – 0:08:06] Adam: Yeah.
[0:08:06 – 0:08:11] Adam: I actually only have a half-broken wheelbarrow, so you’re one up on me now.
[0:08:12 – 0:08:15] Adam: Can I borrow your wheelbarrow?
[0:08:15 – 0:08:15] Adam: No.
[0:08:15 – 0:08:16] Adam: Now you’re in the club.
[0:08:16 – 0:08:17] Erik: Yeah, there is.
[0:08:17 – 0:08:20] Erik: You’re in the homeownership club.
[0:08:20 – 0:08:37] Erik: There is a 13-year-old Eric who is inside of me somewhere who’s just like punching the inside of my ribs in anger because I’m doing all these things that I never thought would be any fun or I would get any enjoyment out of.
[0:08:38 – 0:08:40] Erik: But yeah, now that I’m here, it’s like, this is amazing.
[0:08:41 – 0:08:43] Erik: I’m staining a piece of wood that I own.
[0:08:43 – 0:08:46] Adam: You might be staining a piece of wood, but you’re also building a disc golf course.
[0:08:46 – 0:08:47] Adam: That too.
[0:08:47 – 0:08:48] Adam: And an orchard.
[0:08:48 – 0:08:50] Erik: And it’s like, hey, look at that tree out there.
[0:08:50 – 0:08:50] Erik: That’s yours.
[0:08:50 – 0:08:52] Erik: I can do whatever I want to that tree.
[0:08:52 – 0:08:52] Adam: That’s my tree.
[0:08:53 – 0:08:54] Adam: I own that tree.
[0:08:54 – 0:08:56] Adam: That’s a $1 million pine tree.
[0:08:57 – 0:08:58] Adam: And it’s all yours.
[0:08:58 – 0:08:59] Erik: Yeah.
[0:08:59 – 0:09:00] Adam: I’m not cutting that thing down, though.
[0:09:00 – 0:09:00] Adam: Never.
[0:09:01 – 0:09:01] Adam: Oh.
[0:09:01 – 0:09:01] Adam: No.
[0:09:02 – 0:09:03] Adam: Oh, no.
[0:09:03 – 0:09:04] Adam: It’s almost a two-hugger.
[0:09:04 – 0:09:06] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:09:06 – 0:09:07] Adam: I’m pretty jealous of that pine tree.
[0:09:08 – 0:09:19] Erik: Yeah, there is a two-hugger out there, and if I ever get crazy enough and decide to burn it all down, you can unfriend me or go to the city council.
[0:09:19 – 0:09:20] Adam: That’ll be in season eight.
[0:09:20 – 0:09:21] Adam: Yeah, season eight.
[0:09:21 – 0:09:24] Adam: When you burn that tree down like a psychopath.
[0:09:24 – 0:09:25] Adam: Yes, I’ve turned.
[0:09:26 – 0:09:27] Erik: Clearly, he’s turned.
[0:09:27 – 0:09:29] Erik: The mad podcaster.
[0:09:29 – 0:09:30] Erik: Yeah, but it was just weird.
[0:09:30 – 0:09:33] Erik: It’s like, I’m buying a wheelbarrow.
[0:09:33 – 0:09:34] Adam: I’m staying in the deck.
[0:09:34 – 0:09:34] Erik: Really?
[0:09:35 – 0:09:40] Adam: And maybe, you know, if I have enough time, I’m going to do a straw bed garden.
[0:09:42 – 0:09:43] Adam: I’m serious.
[0:09:43 – 0:09:43] Erik: I know.
[0:09:43 – 0:09:45] Adam: You’ve got to frame that thing in.
[0:09:45 – 0:09:47] Adam: These are the conversations that you have.
[0:09:48 – 0:09:51] Adam: Well, you know, the tomatoes aren’t going to grow right in a regular raised bed.
[0:09:51 – 0:09:54] Adam: In zone zero, everybody knows that.
[0:09:54 – 0:09:55] Erik: We’re not in zero.
[0:09:55 – 0:09:56] Erik: I think we’re in three.
[0:09:56 – 0:09:56] Adam: I love that.
[0:09:56 – 0:09:57] Adam: That’s my favorite joke.
[0:09:57 – 0:09:58] Adam: I know.
[0:09:58 – 0:10:07] Erik: It is a good joke, but it’s also not giving enough credit to the people that truly are in zone zero.
[0:10:07 – 0:10:10] Adam: Yeah, the poor people in zone zero are like, you’re not.
[0:10:11 – 0:10:13] Adam: You can grow one bean.
[0:10:13 – 0:10:18] Adam: That’s like when people in Chicago are like, I live up north in a hardy winter.
[0:10:19 – 0:10:19] Adam: Yes.
[0:10:19 – 0:10:20] Adam: No, you don’t.
[0:10:20 – 0:10:21] Erik: Compared to Atlanta.
[0:10:21 – 0:10:21] Adam: Yeah.
[0:10:22 – 0:10:25] Adam: We’re gatekeeping now like Silver Falls gatekeeps the Quetico.
[0:10:25 – 0:10:26] Erik: Yes.
[0:10:26 – 0:10:30] Adam: You don’t get to complain about winter if you live south of us.
[0:10:31 – 0:10:36] Adam: You don’t get to complain about your growing zone if you live south of the Hudson Bay.
[0:10:36 – 0:10:39] Adam: Can you imagine trying to grow tomatoes on the Hudson Bay?
[0:10:41 – 0:10:45] Adam: They probably still have polar bears in their raised beds right now.
[0:10:45 – 0:10:48] Erik: And in the summer, they get more light than we do.
[0:10:49 – 0:10:49] Adam: That’s true, though.
[0:10:49 – 0:10:50] Adam: Extra light.
[0:10:50 – 0:10:51] Adam: Yeah.
[0:10:51 – 0:10:53] Adam: It almost makes up for the…
[0:10:53 – 0:10:56] Erik: They can grow some championship-grade produce up there in Alaska.
[0:10:57 – 0:10:57] Adam: Hmm.
[0:10:57 – 0:10:59] Adam: Yeah, so I haven’t really thought about it this way.
[0:10:59 – 0:11:00] Erik: Mm-hmm.
[0:11:01 – 0:11:01] Erik: I like it.
[0:11:02 – 0:11:02] Erik: Yeah.
[0:11:02 – 0:11:06] Erik: Well, we’ve… What are we talking about in this episode?
[0:11:06 – 0:11:08] Erik: I don’t even know what we’re talking about right now.
[0:11:08 – 0:11:10] Erik: We are talking about Moose Lake.
[0:11:11 – 0:11:13] Erik: Obviously, you’ve seen the show title.
[0:11:13 – 0:11:15] Erik: You know what we’re talking about.
[0:11:15 – 0:11:16] Adam: Yeah, we don’t have to tease it right away.
[0:11:17 – 0:11:19] Erik: No, we’re not teasing, but we’re talking Moose Lake East.
[0:11:19 – 0:11:31] Erik: We are very close to finishing up the Vento region in terms of its lake reviews and prized beauty.
[0:11:33 – 0:11:41] Erik: One of my favorite lakes, I think, honestly, it’s just there’s an aura to Moose.
[0:11:41 – 0:11:42] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:11:42 – 0:11:42] Erik: The campsites.
[0:11:43 – 0:11:44] Adam: Right in the sweet spot.
[0:11:44 – 0:12:06] Adam: kind of right in between it’s in a popular area but it doesn’t really see much activity no i i think it’s got to be one of the quieter lakes especially considering it’s on the border yeah but it’s it’s one of the border lakes where you’re never going to see a motorboat there’s no ramp on the canadian side up there there’s nothing on the canadian side up there at all
[0:12:07 – 0:12:07] Erik: Right.
[0:12:08 – 0:12:19] Erik: The only thing that you see on the Canadian side on Moose Lake, and this, just to even further clarify, this is the Moose Lake, the farthest eastern section of the Boundary Waters, north of North Fowl.
[0:12:19 – 0:12:20] Adam: East of Mountain.
[0:12:20 – 0:12:25] Erik: East of Mountain, and that whole mess of portages through there.
[0:12:25 – 0:12:32] Erik: The only thing that you may see is maybe some old logging on the Canadian side, but it’s come back.
[0:12:32 – 0:12:33] Erik: It’s pretty minimal.
[0:12:33 – 0:12:33] Erik: Yeah.
[0:12:35 – 0:12:54] Adam: um so it’s been boy i don’t even know when’s the last time we’ve done a lake episode i don’t even remember it’s been a while and it’s been a while actually since i’ve been to this moose lake yeah i’m a little apprehensive on this episode i like to have been there more recently in the past when we’re going to talk about a place but
[0:12:55 – 0:13:01] Adam: Thankfully, we’ve got expert note and photography data.
[0:13:02 – 0:13:02] Erik: I’ve got nothing.
[0:13:04 – 0:13:06] Adam: You’ve got several things written there.
[0:13:06 – 0:13:08] Adam: It looks like a doodle of some sort.
[0:13:08 – 0:13:10] Erik: No, nothing on paper here, actually.
[0:13:11 – 0:13:12] Erik: This is all…
[0:13:12 – 0:13:14] Erik: These are grocery lists.
[0:13:14 – 0:13:17] Adam: Old grocery lists and waterfall research, it looks like.
[0:13:17 – 0:13:24] Erik: And waterfall reviews where you scribbled that my decisions on where to put Johnson Falls.
[0:13:24 – 0:13:25] Erik: Actually, we aligned on that one.
[0:13:25 – 0:13:26] Erik: But anyway…
[0:13:27 – 0:13:30] Erik: We could just continue rambling, but, you know… No, let’s get into it.
[0:13:30 – 0:13:31] Erik: Let’s get into it.
[0:13:31 – 0:13:32] Erik: Moose Lake.
[0:13:32 – 0:13:38] Erik: Moose Lake is one of the harder lakes to access in the Vento unit.
[0:13:39 – 0:13:42] Erik: You can get to it from a few different ways.
[0:13:43 – 0:13:46] Erik: The most popular option, which is still…
[0:13:47 – 0:13:48] Erik: Not that popular.
[0:13:48 – 0:13:49] Erik: It’s not.
[0:13:49 – 0:13:50] Erik: It’s off the beaten path.
[0:13:50 – 0:13:56] Erik: In terms of overnight paddling permit numbers, I think it’s the highest.
[0:13:56 – 0:13:57] Erik: 70.
[0:13:57 – 0:14:06] Erik: Entry point number 70, North Fowl, which is a discussion.
[0:14:06 – 0:14:16] Erik: You could have a whole, maybe a mini episode on the vagaries of how entry permits, entry points, and actual lakes that you put in on.
[0:14:17 – 0:14:20] Erik: affect each other and kind of how confusing that is.
[0:14:20 – 0:14:38] Erik: And I’m not suggesting a better system, but it is for first timers a bit of a challenge to see that your entry lake, your entry permit, the name associated with it says, just as an example, Duncan Lake.
[0:14:39 – 0:14:44] Erik: And then all of a sudden you call your outfitter and they’re talking about West Bearskin and
[0:14:45 – 0:14:47] Adam: You’ve got to get to a lake to get to the lake.
[0:14:47 – 0:14:48] Erik: I’m putting it on Duncan.
[0:14:48 – 0:14:49] Erik: Yeah, I know.
[0:14:49 – 0:14:52] Erik: You’re putting it on Duncan, but you have to start in West Bereskin.
[0:14:52 – 0:14:54] Erik: Same thing with Poplar.
[0:14:54 – 0:14:57] Erik: You put in a Poplar to get to Meade, Skipper, Liz, and Swamp.
[0:14:58 – 0:15:00] Erik: And that’s the same thing here with North Fowl.
[0:15:00 – 0:15:04] Erik: You see North Fowl and you just assume…
[0:15:05 – 0:15:10] Erik: Well, that’s where I’m entering, but you actually have to get to the portage between North Fowl and Moose.
[0:15:10 – 0:15:20] Erik: You actually have to camp on Moose to officially actuate your permit, which is right up there.
[0:15:20 – 0:15:22] Adam: Even then, you’ve got to run the Royal River even to get to…
[0:15:25 – 0:15:35] Erik: I would put it up there, if not the most challenging, and maybe correct me if I’m wrong, maybe there’s an entry point over on the west end, the west side, that is along these lines.
[0:15:35 – 0:15:43] Erik: But I think it’s one of the most challenging entry points to get to in a day.
[0:15:43 – 0:15:44] Erik: Yeah.
[0:15:44 – 0:15:46] Adam: It takes a bit of work to realize this.
[0:15:46 – 0:15:47] Erik: Yeah.
[0:15:47 – 0:15:50] Erik: Most of the time it’s like, I’m entering in on sag.
[0:15:52 – 0:15:53] Erik: Put your canoe in the water.
[0:15:54 – 0:15:55] SPEAKER_04: I’m on sag.
[0:15:55 – 0:15:56] Erik: Or brule.
[0:15:56 – 0:15:57] Adam: I’m right there.
[0:15:57 – 0:15:57] Adam: Or brule, yeah.
[0:15:57 – 0:16:01] Erik: Drive up to the lake, dump your canoe and your cooler in.
[0:16:01 – 0:16:01] Erik: I’ve entered.
[0:16:01 – 0:16:02] Adam: I’m in the Boundary Waters.
[0:16:02 – 0:16:03] Adam: Yes.
[0:16:03 – 0:16:04] Adam: Yeah.
[0:16:04 – 0:16:05] Erik: This is the opposite of that.
[0:16:06 – 0:16:08] Erik: So to get to Moose Lake, and this is, it really does.
[0:16:08 – 0:16:13] Adam: I’ve never really appreciated it, honestly, how much work it actually takes to get to Moose.
[0:16:13 – 0:16:16] Erik: Yeah, and that’s, I think that…
[0:16:16 – 0:16:18] Erik: There’s a resort on North Fowl, for crying out loud.
[0:16:18 – 0:16:20] Erik: I mean, an old resort.
[0:16:20 – 0:16:20] Erik: An old resort.
[0:16:20 – 0:16:22] Adam: An old haunted resort.
[0:16:22 – 0:16:25] Erik: Link in the show notes for sale.
[0:16:26 – 0:16:26] Erik: Buy it up.
[0:16:27 – 0:16:27] Erik: Buy it up.
[0:16:28 – 0:16:28] Erik: So, yeah.
[0:16:28 – 0:16:36] Erik: So, the most difficult aspect of this entry point or this lake is access.
[0:16:36 – 0:16:40] Erik: The closest entry point, like we’re talking about, is North Fowl.
[0:16:40 – 0:16:48] Erik: But you really do have to start down on John, Little John, McFarland area.
[0:16:48 – 0:16:56] Erik: So you put in there, you put in Little John, you kind of skirt the portage slash rapids, whatever the situation there may be.
[0:16:57 – 0:17:23] Erik: into john and then portage down from john into the royal river and then you’ve got a couple of miles down that and then you’ve got a portage from there into south foul and then south foul north foul which are big waters there could be some wind out there and then you’ve got a like a hundred rod portage from north foul into moose like it’s almost a full day off an old donkey cart path
[0:17:24 – 0:17:27] Adam: It’s kind of a weird portage up from North Powell into Moose.
[0:17:27 – 0:17:29] Adam: It’s like old cobbles.
[0:17:30 – 0:17:31] Erik: It is very rocky and cobbly.
[0:17:31 – 0:17:34] Erik: It seems like maybe something was there.
[0:17:34 – 0:17:35] Erik: I think so.
[0:17:35 – 0:17:37] Erik: Yeah.
[0:17:37 – 0:17:39] Adam: But beautiful, though.
[0:17:39 – 0:17:39] Adam: Beautiful.
[0:17:40 – 0:17:42] Adam: Crazy cliffs this whole time.
[0:17:42 – 0:17:48] Adam: So at the same token, while we’re saying it’s one of the more difficult entry point days you can have, it’s also one of the most beautiful.
[0:17:48 – 0:17:48] UNKNOWN: Yeah.
[0:17:48 – 0:17:53] Erik: Definitely in no way, shape, or form am I discouraging this as an entry.
[0:17:54 – 0:17:57] Erik: Say you just, oh, all of a sudden I found out I got this weekend off.
[0:17:57 – 0:17:59] Adam: Yeah, it’s always easy to get that permit.
[0:17:59 – 0:18:00] Erik: It’s almost always available.
[0:18:01 – 0:18:01] Erik: Yeah.
[0:18:01 – 0:18:07] Erik: It’s up there with like your Southlake, your Morgan, your Brant’s.
[0:18:09 – 0:18:12] Erik: And it’s just one of those ones that last second you can almost always get.
[0:18:13 – 0:18:14] Erik: And then, yeah, like the paddle.
[0:18:14 – 0:18:16] Adam: Because of the difficulty of entry.
[0:18:16 – 0:18:16] Adam: Yeah.
[0:18:16 – 0:18:17] Erik: Because it’s not right there.
[0:18:18 – 0:18:19] Erik: Yeah, like the South Lake.
[0:18:20 – 0:18:26] Erik: We’ve talked, I think, more or less on some of the sneakier ways to access that.
[0:18:26 – 0:18:33] Adam: Who wants to start their trip with a 400-rod rolling Ozark Trail into Morgan?
[0:18:33 – 0:18:57] Erik: yeah which those who want to camp at lux that’s man that’s for episode 70 lux connoisseurs 70 that that’s only 15 episodes away we’re not doing a note in the yeah notepad hold us to it in three months we will be doing a lux special mini episode we’re gonna start getting to that point where we do mini episodes never through the week i don’t like mini episodes yeah
[0:18:58 – 0:19:01] Adam: This is about as many of an episode as we’re going to get.
[0:19:01 – 0:19:07] Adam: It’s going to be barely under an hour discussion of a very obscure entry point.
[0:19:07 – 0:19:08] Erik: All right.
[0:19:08 – 0:19:22] Erik: So we’ve kind of talked about the way that you can come down from the main access of the official entry permit point, but you can also access it from the west coming in from Mountain Lake.
[0:19:22 – 0:19:23] Adam: Like a boss.
[0:19:23 – 0:19:23] Adam: Yeah.
[0:19:23 – 0:19:29] Erik: Yeah, like a bus between mountain and then you’ve got like a bunch of the little lakes like Cherry, Vessu.
[0:19:29 – 0:19:30] Erik: And the Vessu.
[0:19:31 – 0:19:40] Erik: And so even coming in from the west, you’ve got massive mountain lake and then kind of bang, bang, bang portages that are not really the greatest.
[0:19:40 – 0:19:42] Erik: The Lesser and Greater Cherry.
[0:19:42 – 0:19:44] Erik: Lesser and Greater Cherry.
[0:19:45 – 0:19:45] Erik: And then you’re…
[0:19:45 – 0:19:48] Adam: Lest we forget the Lesser Cherry.
[0:19:48 – 0:19:50] Erik: And then you’re into mountain, which is a border lake.
[0:19:53 – 0:19:58] Erik: And do we want to start with campsites?
[0:19:59 – 0:20:04] Erik: And then we can talk about maybe some of the experiences we’ve had on the lake.
[0:20:04 – 0:20:05] Adam: Yeah, absolutely.
[0:20:05 – 0:20:10] Adam: I think we’ve kind of set the stage, and now we shall move into the campsites.
[0:20:10 – 0:20:19] Adam: Of course, you can find all these reviews on ClearwaterHistoricLodge.com, along with the corresponding pictures we will be chuckling over.
[0:20:19 – 0:20:21] Erik: Oh, man.
[0:20:23 – 0:20:26] Adam: Did we mention we are drinking Maverick and Goose?
[0:20:26 – 0:20:27] Erik: Maverick and Ghost beer is just…
[0:20:28 – 0:20:30] Erik: Broken Clack Brewing Cooperative.
[0:20:30 – 0:20:31] Adam: Our new friends.
[0:20:31 – 0:20:33] Adam: Mind-blowingly delicious.
[0:20:33 – 0:20:35] Adam: They love Moose Lake as much as we do.
[0:20:36 – 0:20:38] Adam: And as always, we start from the west.
[0:20:39 – 0:21:03] Erik: campsite one there are there are five campsites on this lake obviously as a border lake you will only find the campsites on the south side the american side if you will and number one is uh oh boy i guess you get this one i’ll do it you get this one yeah so jealous first campsite on the lake is not one you’re gonna want to target
[0:21:03 – 0:21:07] Adam: I forgot how bad the grade was on one.
[0:21:08 – 0:21:10] Erik: It may be one of the worst sites in the area.
[0:21:11 – 0:21:21] Erik: It has little to no landing area, a small scrubby fire grate area, one small rocky tent pad, and a general sense of shabbiness.
[0:21:21 – 0:21:22] UNKNOWN: Ha ha ha!
[0:21:22 – 0:21:29] Erik: If there is one nice thing to be said about this spot, it is the view down moose from the rocky landing.
[0:21:29 – 0:21:30] Adam: Beautiful sunrises.
[0:21:31 – 0:21:34] Adam: Other than that, this is complete.
[0:21:35 – 0:21:37] Adam: Yeah, it looks like… Write that down.
[0:21:38 – 0:21:39] Adam: Give me a time stamp on that, sir.
[0:21:40 – 0:21:43] Erik: First moon bleep in a little bit.
[0:21:43 – 0:21:47] Adam: Oh, we didn’t talk about the… Yeah, the failed moon bleeps.
[0:21:47 – 0:21:49] Adam: That’s the episode 53.
[0:21:49 – 0:21:50] Erik: That was scary.
[0:21:50 – 0:21:51] Erik: Yeah.
[0:21:51 – 0:21:59] Adam: I was listening to that in my tumble time, and I heard the bleeps come in early, and I go, I kind of did space monkey meme, like looking around.
[0:22:00 – 0:22:01] Adam: Okay, he did kill the volume.
[0:22:01 – 0:22:22] Erik: we’re good the volume has been killed but the loon bleeps were they didn’t reach their full potential and if you’ve heard that episode you know exactly what i’m talking about a little off where our timing was a little off i don’t know what happened it was a post-production thing in uh timing i changed something but whatever it’s just one of those things it happens no harm
[0:22:23 – 0:22:47] Erik: yeah no foul and it was one of those things where i was like in a position when i was listening to it where i would have had to have like turned around and driven back to like a computer and internet to be like that can’t be up it’s folly but yeah it was campsite one zero to one tent pads landing f fire gray area f i can’t believe you give the landing enough it’s the best part
[0:22:47 – 0:22:49] Adam: No, the best part is the view.
[0:22:49 – 0:22:50] Adam: No, it’s not.
[0:22:50 – 0:22:51] Adam: The picture’s disgusting.
[0:22:52 – 0:22:52] Adam: Yeah.
[0:22:52 – 0:22:52] Adam: There it is.
[0:22:53 – 0:22:53] Adam: Rocks.
[0:22:53 – 0:22:55] Erik: Really nasty rocks.
[0:22:56 – 0:22:56] Erik: F plus overall.
[0:22:56 – 0:22:57] Adam: It’s not bad, though.
[0:22:57 – 0:22:58] Adam: It’s better than a bog landing.
[0:22:59 – 0:23:00] Adam: Right.
[0:23:00 – 0:23:01] Adam: There’s no snapping turtles.
[0:23:01 – 0:23:02] Adam: Yeah.
[0:23:02 – 0:23:02] Erik: And you can’t…
[0:23:02 – 0:23:26] Adam: this is the campsite that uh we camped at the last time we were on moose number two it’s all you baby campsite two the second site on moose is a nice one shoreline is almost entirely made up of broken boulders awkwardly stacked making all the landings for the campsites a little difficult this is true a tricky canoe landing is really the only thing not to like about this site however
[0:23:26 – 0:23:33] Adam: A beautiful white pine stands guard over the small but accommodating fire-grade area with views into Canada.
[0:23:35 – 0:23:36] Adam: I can picture it now.
[0:23:36 – 0:23:42] Adam: There’s plenty of flat ground to be found in the back of the site with plenty of hammock trees as well.
[0:23:43 – 0:23:45] Adam: This is the Cytoplenty.
[0:23:46 – 0:23:50] Adam: Oh, that white pine is a true beauty.
[0:23:50 – 0:23:51] Adam: Focal point.
[0:23:51 – 0:23:52] Adam: Oh, my.
[0:23:53 – 0:23:56] Adam: And look at the great, well-situated
[0:23:57 – 0:23:59] Erik: Very nicely done, U.S. Forest Service.
[0:23:59 – 0:24:00] Adam: Oh, my.
[0:24:00 – 0:24:02] Adam: Here, here.
[0:24:02 – 0:24:04] Adam: We got to get back to the grades on this thing.
[0:24:05 – 0:24:05] Erik: Yes.
[0:24:05 – 0:24:06] Erik: Graded out.
[0:24:06 – 0:24:08] Erik: These are my personal grades.
[0:24:08 – 0:24:09] Adam: You can adjust them if you like.
[0:24:09 – 0:24:16] Adam: It’s a rough, rocky landing with a C. The fire grade is a B+.
[0:24:16 – 0:24:18] Adam: And overall, it’s a B+.
[0:24:20 – 0:24:27] Adam: Could be an A with a beach landing, obviously, but as far as the landings on Moose Lake goes, this one’s probably the finest.
[0:24:27 – 0:24:33] Erik: Yeah, but I think that’s kind of a part of Moose Lake that gives it a bit of its aura.
[0:24:33 – 0:24:34] Erik: It’s a porcupine.
[0:24:34 – 0:24:37] Erik: It’s a bit of a prickly border lake.
[0:24:37 – 0:24:38] Erik: Yeah, there’s not…
[0:24:39 – 0:24:49] Erik: I mean, yes, sometimes the real bad ones are what they are, but there’s a part of it that doesn’t feel like it’s super overused.
[0:24:50 – 0:24:53] Adam: Yeah, I remember there being a lot of downed leaves everywhere.
[0:24:53 – 0:24:59] Erik: Yeah, there’s this one campsite coming up here that’s like one of my like spooky camp.
[0:24:59 – 0:25:03] Erik: For some reason, it just felt like, man, I just want to like camp in here.
[0:25:04 – 0:25:04] Erik: We didn’t.
[0:25:04 – 0:25:08] Adam: I just want to go to sleep in this pile of leaves.
[0:25:09 – 0:25:10] Adam: There’s the methane gas.
[0:25:10 – 0:25:12] Erik: Yeah, it’s just the decomposition.
[0:25:12 – 0:25:13] Adam: This is a beauty, Al.
[0:25:13 – 0:25:14] Adam: Two.
[0:25:14 – 0:25:15] Adam: Two is nice.
[0:25:15 – 0:25:16] Adam: Two is very nice.
[0:25:17 – 0:25:18] Erik: Three, not so much.
[0:25:19 – 0:25:20] Adam: Oh, dear.
[0:25:20 – 0:25:26] Erik: It’s about halfway down the south shore of the lake and slightly better than the first one.
[0:25:27 – 0:25:33] Erik: A horrendously frustrating landing gives way to an even more challenging campsite.
[0:25:34 – 0:25:36] Erik: The entire site is a jumble of rocks.
[0:25:36 – 0:25:39] Erik: Seems like walking around at night would be dangerous.
[0:25:40 – 0:25:43] Erik: The one tent pad, that’s in quotes.
[0:25:43 – 0:25:44] Erik: That is in quotes.
[0:25:44 – 0:25:47] Erik: Is more pointy rocks than grass and or dirt.
[0:25:47 – 0:25:53] Erik: This seems like your perfect port in a storm kind of campsite.
[0:25:53 – 0:25:57] Adam: Or I would say maybe a connoisseur’s hammocking site.
[0:25:57 – 0:26:01] Erik: Yeah, I mean, if you’re just a person or two, you could maybe do a little hammocking here.
[0:26:01 – 0:26:01] Erik: Maybe.
[0:26:01 – 0:26:02] Adam: Oh, boy, that is rough.
[0:26:03 – 0:26:07] Erik: Lunchy, you know, fillet up that massive lake trout that you just caught.
[0:26:07 – 0:26:09] Adam: Yeah, there’s nothing wrong.
[0:26:09 – 0:26:12] Adam: This could be a great spot to fillet a massive lake trout.
[0:26:12 – 0:26:15] Erik: Yeah, tent pads, zero to one, if one.
[0:26:15 – 0:26:17] Erik: Landing, D. Fire grade, D minus.
[0:26:18 – 0:26:19] Erik: Overall, D minus.
[0:26:20 – 0:26:21] SPEAKER_04: Boo, boo, boo.
[0:26:21 – 0:26:22] SPEAKER_04: Boo, boo, boo, boo.
[0:26:22 – 0:26:22] SPEAKER_04: Boo.
[0:26:23 – 0:26:25] SPEAKER_04: Boo.
[0:26:26 – 0:26:27] Adam: Campsite four.
[0:26:27 – 0:26:28] Erik: Yeah, campsite four.
[0:26:29 – 0:26:36] Adam: The grass and lushy cedar forest are pleasant changes from the other sites, which are very rocky.
[0:26:37 – 0:26:38] Adam: Even the landing here is decent.
[0:26:39 – 0:26:45] Adam: The fire-grade area sits right on the water under a canopy of fragrant cedar branches.
[0:26:45 – 0:26:46] Adam: I can see them.
[0:26:47 – 0:26:47] Adam: There they are.
[0:26:49 – 0:26:53] Adam: Two nice flat places for tents also sit nearby.
[0:26:54 – 0:26:58] Adam: The Cedar Grove provides unlimited rainfly and hammock options.
[0:26:59 – 0:27:01] Adam: So this is a very versatile site.
[0:27:01 – 0:27:06] Adam: Hey, there’s a handsome gentleman waving at us from the canoe.
[0:27:06 – 0:27:07] Adam: Hello.
[0:27:07 – 0:27:11] Adam: Look at those thighs out, skies out, thighs out.
[0:27:11 – 0:27:13] Adam: God, talking about the short shorts.
[0:27:14 – 0:27:19] Adam: Mmm, this is the… Good place to throw your legs around.
[0:27:19 – 0:27:33] Erik: Yeah, this is the lake that you were in the America shorts, and you had the bag of wine, and you dipped your head in the lake, and I got that perfect picture of you whipping your hair back in the big tomahawk mohawk.
[0:27:35 – 0:27:36] Erik: Maybe we’ll share that.
[0:27:36 – 0:27:36] Erik: Maybe we won’t.
[0:27:36 – 0:27:37] Adam: It was pretty hot.
[0:27:38 – 0:27:40] Adam: It was pretty hot.
[0:27:40 – 0:27:40] Erik: Yeah.
[0:27:41 – 0:27:43] Erik: Did you give us the grades yet?
[0:27:43 – 0:27:46] Adam: We got two tent pads for a campsite four.
[0:27:47 – 0:27:51] Adam: The landing is a C plus, maybe a B minus.
[0:27:52 – 0:27:54] Adam: The fire rate’s a B.
[0:27:56 – 0:27:59] Adam: Yeah, that landing looks like a landing in the C+.
[0:28:00 – 0:28:05] Erik: It’s a little rocky, but once you get out of the water, it’s like nice grassy.
[0:28:05 – 0:28:05] Adam: Pretty nice.
[0:28:05 – 0:28:07] Adam: It’s a grassy knoll.
[0:28:07 – 0:28:09] Adam: We may have to adjust that on the fly.
[0:28:10 – 0:28:12] Erik: I’ll get back into WordPress right now and change that.
[0:28:12 – 0:28:13] Erik: Thank you.
[0:28:14 – 0:28:24] Adam: The fire grade area is a B minus, and I think overall you’ve given it a B minus here, but I think we may want to upgrade that to a straight B. I’m fine with a straight B.
[0:28:24 – 0:28:25] Adam: Right in the middle of the lake.
[0:28:26 – 0:28:26] Adam: Yeah.
[0:28:26 – 0:28:27] Adam: Good location.
[0:28:28 – 0:28:29] Adam: Middle of nowhere.
[0:28:29 – 0:28:31] Adam: You’re not going to see nothing up there.
[0:28:31 – 0:28:34] Adam: Middle of nowhere, where, where, where?
[0:28:40 – 0:28:41] Adam: Good bird watching up there, too.
[0:28:42 – 0:28:43] Adam: Unlimited amounts of warblers.
[0:28:43 – 0:28:45] Adam: We’re going to drink it in.
[0:28:45 – 0:28:47] Erik: Yeah, we got the last campsite in the lake.
[0:28:48 – 0:28:49] Erik: Number five.
[0:28:50 – 0:28:53] Erik: This one, for whatever reason, it just spoke to me.
[0:28:54 – 0:29:06] Erik: I don’t think it’s one of those campsites where if you were, you know, back in the day in high school, college, the rubrics, it wouldn’t really fit that rubrics of like, hey, that’s a good campsite.
[0:29:07 – 0:29:08] Erik: But there’s something about it.
[0:29:08 – 0:29:09] Erik: The intangibles.
[0:29:09 – 0:29:12] Erik: It’s got the intangibles going for it.
[0:29:12 – 0:29:13] Adam: Is that how you say that?
[0:29:13 – 0:29:14] Adam: Yeah.
[0:29:14 – 0:29:14] Adam: Yeah.
[0:29:15 – 0:29:16] Adam: Sure you do, friend.
[0:29:16 – 0:29:18] Erik: Yeah, it’s unique.
[0:29:19 – 0:29:19] Erik: It is.
[0:29:19 – 0:29:20] Erik: Yeah.
[0:29:20 – 0:29:27] Erik: And that’s something that I put more emphasis towards than a lot of things.
[0:29:27 – 0:29:28] Erik: And that might just be me.
[0:29:30 – 0:29:32] Erik: If you want to judge me for it, you go right ahead and do it.
[0:29:33 – 0:29:35] Erik: But I think it’s a cool site.
[0:29:36 – 0:29:37] Erik: It can be difficult to locate.
[0:29:37 – 0:29:47] Erik: It’s got a little bit of a smaller landing because it really, it only starts with like a path going up into the campsite itself.
[0:29:48 – 0:29:51] Erik: The challenge is in locating the site.
[0:29:52 – 0:29:57] Erik: And I think that’s probably why it seems like it doesn’t get as used as it might be hard to find.
[0:29:57 – 0:29:58] Erik: It’s a hidden…
[0:29:59 – 0:30:28] Erik: hidden gem I’ll go ahead and give it a hidden gem status leaves and branches covered the entire site and the typical wear and tear of the ground was not evident at all you know you usually see that like wearing of like there’s been a tent here people walk around it looks like it’s mostly just kind of the woods the cedar grove the fire grate and tent pad sit in a truly magical feeling place and I still feel that way
[0:30:28 – 0:30:30] Adam: A lot of ferries in here.
[0:30:30 – 0:30:33] Erik: Yeah, I mean, unlimited hammocking options.
[0:30:33 – 0:30:35] Adam: Unlimited, for sure.
[0:30:35 – 0:30:38] Erik: For sure, two tent pads, the landing, obviously.
[0:30:38 – 0:30:42] Erik: It’s those border waters, classic mountain, moose, rose landing.
[0:30:43 – 0:30:43] Adam: Crocky.
[0:30:43 – 0:30:44] Adam: You will make do.
[0:30:44 – 0:30:45] Erik: Poor landing.
[0:30:45 – 0:30:47] Erik: Fire grade area, B+.
[0:30:47 – 0:30:48] Erik: Overall, B+.
[0:30:48 – 0:30:49] Erik: Well.
[0:30:49 – 0:30:52] Erik: This is maybe one that’s a little bit more subjective for me.
[0:30:54 – 0:31:03] Erik: It’s not your big, open, you know, prominence point with views and 270 degrees in all directions.
[0:31:04 – 0:31:07] Erik: This is kind of your intimate woods campsite.
[0:31:07 – 0:31:10] Adam: I was going to think intimate was the right word for this.
[0:31:10 – 0:31:10] Adam: Mm-hmm.
[0:31:11 – 0:31:15] Adam: You could definitely write some really interesting poetry in this site.
[0:31:16 – 0:31:16] Erik: Yes.
[0:31:16 – 0:31:19] Erik: You could do a lot of interesting things at this site.
[0:31:19 – 0:31:25] Erik: And it’s a different Boundary Waters experience, which is still a Boundary Waters experience, I think.
[0:31:26 – 0:31:29] Adam: I like the picture of the waterfront here, the way the light hits those rocks.
[0:31:29 – 0:31:30] Erik: The way the light is hitting those rocks.
[0:31:30 – 0:31:31] Erik: Yeah.
[0:31:31 – 0:31:32] Erik: Very nice contrast.
[0:31:32 – 0:31:33] Erik: Yeah.
[0:31:34 – 0:31:43] Erik: And you know, you can always see these pictures on our clearwaterhistoricalodge.com website with the campsite review page of Moose Lake.
[0:31:44 – 0:31:52] Erik: And it’s just, it’s, I think this campsite is a, it’s a nice little microcosm of the whole lake.
[0:31:52 – 0:31:56] Erik: It’s got a, it’s got one of those more unique feels to it.
[0:31:57 – 0:32:00] Adam: We’re giving this the campsite MVP of the episode.
[0:32:00 – 0:32:03] Erik: I mean, I think just, I think, yeah, I would agree.
[0:32:03 – 0:32:24] Erik: I think just generally campsite two is probably your best, like typical good campsite, but campsite five is the one that it really is the best, like continuation of like what moose like feels like to me, which is a little bit more magical, mysterious off the beaten path.
[0:32:25 – 0:32:25] Erik: Um,
[0:32:26 – 0:32:27] Erik: It’s kind of like fish sauce, right?
[0:32:28 – 0:32:28] Adam: Yeah.
[0:32:28 – 0:32:29] Adam: What’s going on here?
[0:32:30 – 0:32:31] Adam: It’s weird, but I like it.
[0:32:31 – 0:32:32] Adam: Yeah, like, just right.
[0:32:32 – 0:32:37] Adam: Whereas Campsite 2 is more like, you know… Soy sauce.
[0:32:38 – 0:32:39] Erik: Yeah, tamari.
[0:32:39 – 0:32:41] Erik: Yeah, this is good, and I know why I like it.
[0:32:41 – 0:32:41] Adam: Yeah, it’s familiar.
[0:32:42 – 0:32:43] Erik: Yeah, fish sauce is like…
[0:32:43 – 0:32:44] Erik: Put it on anything.
[0:32:44 – 0:32:45] Erik: I don’t know, this is kind of off-putting.
[0:32:46 – 0:32:48] SPEAKER_04: But once you get into it, you’re like… Only on a Tuesday.
[0:32:48 – 0:32:48] Erik: Hmm.
[0:32:49 – 0:32:49] SPEAKER_04: I love it.
[0:32:49 – 0:32:51] Erik: I don’t know why it’s good, but it’s good.
[0:32:51 – 0:33:01] Erik: It smells like dirty crotch, but now that I’m actually tasting it, it’s amazing and it’s making the whole experience better.
[0:33:01 – 0:33:04] Adam: Well, that’s one way to say it.
[0:33:05 – 0:33:09] Adam: Moose Lake is like fish sauce and like fish sauce.
[0:33:09 – 0:33:11] Adam: No, I can’t say it five is like fish sauce.
[0:33:11 – 0:33:14] Adam: Moose Lake has got great umami all around, but…
[0:33:15 – 0:33:16] Adam: Specifically this one.
[0:33:17 – 0:33:21] Adam: You don’t want to pair it with a little gosu gang.
[0:33:21 – 0:33:21] Erik: Yeah.
[0:33:21 – 0:33:22] Erik: No, no.
[0:33:22 – 0:33:24] Erik: You would never want to do that.
[0:33:24 – 0:33:24] Erik: No.
[0:33:25 – 0:33:26] Adam: Not just tamarind.
[0:33:26 – 0:33:30] Adam: You want to get some tamarind paste, some fish sauce, maybe a little lime.
[0:33:30 – 0:33:31] Adam: Just a touch of lime.
[0:33:31 – 0:33:32] Erik: Touch of lime.
[0:33:32 – 0:33:33] Adam: Sneak into the cedars.
[0:33:34 – 0:33:36] Erik: A fleck of cilantro.
[0:33:36 – 0:33:36] Erik: Oh, yes.
[0:33:36 – 0:33:39] Erik: It’s just down in that little nook there, too.
[0:33:39 – 0:33:40] Erik: Perfect view to the north.
[0:33:40 – 0:33:40] Adam: Yeah.
[0:33:41 – 0:33:42] Adam: You want to talk a little fishing, maybe?
[0:33:42 – 0:33:56] Erik: I think we should talk a little fishing, which alongside the general feeling aura, which is entirely subjective, you might find yourself out there surrounded by other campers and other people passing down the lake.
[0:33:56 – 0:33:59] Adam: I’ve literally never seen another person on Moose Lake.
[0:33:59 – 0:34:00] Erik: This is true, yes.
[0:34:00 – 0:34:01] Adam: Have you?
[0:34:01 – 0:34:01] Erik: No.
[0:34:02 – 0:34:07] Adam: I’ve never seen another person on American side or Ontario side.
[0:34:08 – 0:34:09] Erik: I’m not here to make guarantees, though, either.
[0:34:10 – 0:34:11] Adam: Hold on, I’m going to go back.
[0:34:11 – 0:34:12] Adam: I’m going to take that back.
[0:34:12 – 0:34:13] Erik: All right.
[0:34:13 – 0:34:17] Adam: No, the Minnesota side or the Ontario side.
[0:34:18 – 0:34:19] Adam: America’s not a place.
[0:34:19 – 0:34:19] Erik: Yes.
[0:34:20 – 0:34:22] Adam: My apologies, dear listeners.
[0:34:23 – 0:34:28] Erik: So before we get to fishing, there’s just one little fun thing.
[0:34:28 – 0:34:38] Erik: If somebody wants to correct me on this, if I’m wrong, I don’t think I am because I haven’t been able to prove that I’m not.
[0:34:40 – 0:34:50] Erik: I believe Moose Lake may be the last lake in the state of Minnesota that has not been sounded in terms of its depths.
[0:34:51 – 0:34:53] Adam: Complete mystery.
[0:34:53 – 0:34:54] Erik: It doesn’t have a depth chart.
[0:34:55 – 0:34:57] Erik: Not one that I’ve been able to find.
[0:34:57 – 0:34:58] Adam: What about Ontario?
[0:34:59 – 0:35:01] Adam: Did you check the Ministry of Ontario Lakes?
[0:35:02 – 0:35:07] Erik: I have not checked the Ministry of Natural Services or Resources or whatever they’re called up there.
[0:35:07 – 0:35:08] Erik: I know they’re the Ministry.
[0:35:09 – 0:35:11] Erik: Oh, the Ministry knows all.
[0:35:11 – 0:35:16] Erik: Which gives them a little bit more of a… You don’t want to mess with the…
[0:35:17 – 0:35:20] Erik: I’ll mess with the department any day of the week.
[0:35:20 – 0:35:21] Adam: Silly department.
[0:35:21 – 0:35:23] Erik: I’m not effing around with the ministry.
[0:35:24 – 0:35:24] Erik: Oh, boy.
[0:35:24 – 0:35:26] Erik: They probably got some people in the underground.
[0:35:27 – 0:35:27] Erik: Yeah.
[0:35:27 – 0:35:28] Erik: And the upside down.
[0:35:29 – 0:35:29] Erik: Yeah.
[0:35:29 – 0:35:30] Erik: And the inside out.
[0:35:31 – 0:35:32] Erik: Oh, no.
[0:35:34 – 0:35:35] SPEAKER_04: Oh, no.
[0:35:36 – 0:35:38] SPEAKER_04: So I don’t think there’s any depth charts for moose.
[0:35:38 – 0:35:39] SPEAKER_04: Why not?
[0:35:39 – 0:35:40] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:35:41 – 0:35:42] Erik: They don’t want you to know.
[0:35:42 – 0:35:46] Erik: The same reason that it’s kind of got that spooky feel to it.
[0:35:46 – 0:35:48] Erik: Yeah, there’s something going on up there.
[0:35:48 – 0:35:50] Erik: It’s hard to get out of there.
[0:35:50 – 0:35:53] Erik: It’s not really on any major routes or paths.
[0:35:53 – 0:35:54] Adam: It touches the mantel.
[0:35:55 – 0:35:56] Erik: Yeah.
[0:35:56 – 0:35:57] Erik: Direct access.
[0:35:57 – 0:35:58] Erik: Touches the mantle.
[0:35:59 – 0:36:03] Erik: But we have had some great fishing experiences out there.
[0:36:05 – 0:36:08] Erik: And these are the official numbers.
[0:36:09 – 0:36:12] Erik: And then we’ll talk about maybe some of those experiences we’ve had.
[0:36:12 – 0:36:13] Erik: Right on.
[0:36:14 – 0:36:15] Erik: Hey, take this again.
[0:36:15 – 0:36:19] Erik: If you’re an acreage guy or girl or not, it’s about a little over 1,000 acres.
[0:36:21 – 0:36:22] Adam: Biggin’.
[0:36:22 – 0:36:29] Erik: Its maximum depth is 113 feet.
[0:36:29 – 0:36:33] Erik: I was a little surprised to see that its average water clarity is only 15 feet.
[0:36:34 – 0:36:35] Erik: I don’t know about that.
[0:36:35 – 0:36:37] Erik: I mean, I know that’s pretty good still.
[0:36:37 – 0:36:40] Adam: I obviously don’t believe that it’s 113 feet deep either.
[0:36:41 – 0:36:41] Adam: Oh, you don’t?
[0:36:41 – 0:36:43] Adam: No, I absolutely don’t.
[0:36:43 – 0:36:44] Adam: Okay.
[0:36:44 – 0:36:44] Adam: Those are lies.
[0:36:45 – 0:36:54] Erik: Well, the other thing to take with a large grain of salt is the last survey that was taken is over 20 years old.
[0:36:54 – 0:36:56] Erik: 1998.
[0:36:56 – 0:36:56] Erik: Wow.
[0:36:57 – 0:36:57] Erik: Yeah.
[0:36:59 – 0:37:01] Adam: That’s way back in the day.
[0:37:02 – 0:37:04] Erik: Well, you want to do 98 or you want to do 78?
[0:37:04 – 0:37:05] Adam: No, let’s go with 98.
[0:37:05 – 0:37:07] Adam: I don’t believe the 78 survey.
[0:37:07 – 0:37:08] Adam: That makes the most sense.
[0:37:08 – 0:37:09] Erik: Those guys, come on.
[0:37:09 – 0:37:15] Erik: It’s probably because of, so just to go back to the water clarity thing, like, because Mountain is incredibly clear.
[0:37:15 – 0:37:15] Erik: Yeah.
[0:37:16 – 0:37:18] Erik: But then there’s like three or four like ponds slash bog lakes.
[0:37:18 – 0:37:19] Erik: It’s the Vasu crap.
[0:37:19 – 0:37:21] Erik: They kind of get, they kind of go downhill.
[0:37:21 – 0:37:23] Adam: Yeah, so you’re getting that cherry and Vasu silt.
[0:37:23 – 0:37:26] Erik: Yeah, you’re getting that cherry garbage water.
[0:37:26 – 0:37:26] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:37:26 – 0:37:27] Adam: I think it’s still pretty clear.
[0:37:27 – 0:37:30] Adam: I would classify it as dippable for sure.
[0:37:30 – 0:37:30] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:37:30 – 0:37:32] Erik: For sure, dippable.
[0:37:32 – 0:37:35] Erik: But you just assume it’s in line with clear water amounts.
[0:37:35 – 0:37:36] Adam: So what, they do a survey every 20 years?
[0:37:37 – 0:37:37] Adam: 78?
[0:37:37 – 0:37:37] Adam: 98?
[0:37:38 – 0:37:40] Adam: They should have done one last year then.
[0:37:40 – 0:37:40] Adam: No.
[0:37:40 – 0:37:41] Adam: Where’s the 18?
[0:37:41 – 0:37:42] Erik: There’s 98, 93, 87, and 78.
[0:37:45 – 0:37:57] Adam: Oh, it’s almost like they had their funding chopped in half for no good reason in scumbag Washington, D.C. For don’t care.
[0:37:58 – 0:37:59] Adam: That’s what D.C. stands for.
[0:38:01 – 0:38:11] Erik: All right, so we got some fish species here going on in Mountain Lake, and we’ve got burbot, lake trout, lake whitefish, smallmouth bass, and…
[0:38:11 – 0:38:17] Erik: tulipy, walleye, white sucker, and lello perch.
[0:38:19 – 0:38:19] Erik: Oh, wow.
[0:38:20 – 0:38:22] Erik: Just because we finished on yellow perch.
[0:38:22 – 0:38:24] Erik: Oh, there’s one of them.
[0:38:24 – 0:38:24] Erik: One.
[0:38:24 – 0:38:25] Erik: One six-incher.
[0:38:25 – 0:38:26] Adam: Yeah, right.
[0:38:26 – 0:38:27] Adam: I bet there’s more.
[0:38:28 – 0:38:29] Adam: Where there’s one, there’s more.
[0:38:30 – 0:38:32] Adam: Moving up, we have white sucker.
[0:38:32 – 0:38:33] Adam: We have…
[0:38:34 – 0:38:39] Adam: A bunch of white sucker from 15 to 24 healthy amounts of white sucker.
[0:38:39 – 0:38:41] Adam: It’s always a good sign.
[0:38:41 – 0:38:51] Adam: I’m not going to get into a shouting argument with you again, Eric, about white sucker, but I believe they are a legit native species and I love them.
[0:38:52 – 0:38:53] Erik: Was there ever an argument about that?
[0:38:54 – 0:38:54] Adam: Yes.
[0:38:55 – 0:39:00] Adam: You’ve vociferously demeaned the white sucker in episode 33.
[0:39:00 – 0:39:03] Adam: The fact that they are in the 15 to 24 inch range truly tells me that they are pubescent.
[0:39:11 – 0:39:13] Adam: It’s a pretty healthy amount of sucker.
[0:39:13 – 0:39:14] Erik: Yes.
[0:39:14 – 0:39:15] Erik: Healthy suckers.
[0:39:16 – 0:39:21] Erik: This is one of the most surprising things that I’ve seen in a while.
[0:39:21 – 0:39:22] Erik: The walleye numbers in moose.
[0:39:23 – 0:39:25] Erik: Again, 1998.
[0:39:25 – 0:39:27] Erik: Long time ago.
[0:39:27 – 0:39:31] Erik: I’ve never heard of moose being moosed.
[0:39:31 – 0:39:34] Erik: Moose in parentheses east.
[0:39:34 – 0:39:34] Erik: Yeah.
[0:39:34 – 0:39:36] Erik: Not your Ely Moose.
[0:39:36 – 0:39:37] Adam: Right.
[0:39:37 – 0:39:41] Adam: To clarify, if you’re just tuning in, if you’ve just found the show.
[0:39:42 – 0:39:42] Adam: Yeah.
[0:39:42 – 0:39:44] Erik: If you’ve just found the show and you’re 40 minutes in.
[0:39:44 – 0:39:46] Erik: We’re on the east side.
[0:39:46 – 0:39:46] Erik: Yeah.
[0:39:47 – 0:39:59] Erik: The total net count of walleyes on Moose Lake in 1998 is 81 with a good number in an actual keepable range.
[0:39:59 – 0:40:00] Erik: Yeah.
[0:40:00 – 0:40:03] Erik: 61 of those in the 15 to 24 inch range.
[0:40:03 – 0:40:06] Erik: It makes me want to go out and fish moose like right now.
[0:40:06 – 0:40:06] Erik: Yeah, I know.
[0:40:06 – 0:40:07] Erik: But you can’t.
[0:40:07 – 0:40:10] Adam: Well, the Fowls have always been famed for walleye.
[0:40:11 – 0:40:11] Adam: Yeah.
[0:40:11 – 0:40:11] Adam: Very close.
[0:40:12 – 0:40:13] Erik: Yes, of course.
[0:40:13 – 0:40:16] Erik: Like, the Fowls are definitely one, like, they come to mind.
[0:40:16 – 0:40:21] Erik: But Moose Lake is like 120 feet deep.
[0:40:21 – 0:40:27] Erik: And then, you know, you’re looking at North and South Fowl, which just seem like jumbo versions of Swamp Lake.
[0:40:27 – 0:40:28] Adam: Yeah.
[0:40:28 – 0:40:29] Erik: Which are…
[0:40:29 – 0:40:29] Adam: Pretty crazy.
[0:40:29 – 0:40:30] Adam: I would never have guessed that.
[0:40:31 – 0:40:32] Adam: It’s pretty interesting to read.
[0:40:32 – 0:40:34] Adam: 81 walleye taken.
[0:40:34 – 0:40:35] Adam: The most of any species.
[0:40:35 – 0:40:35] Adam: Yeah.
[0:40:35 – 0:40:36] Adam: And they’re just like…
[0:40:36 – 0:40:38] Adam: I never thought of it as a walleye lake.
[0:40:38 – 0:40:38] Erik: No.
[0:40:38 – 0:40:42] Erik: I just… Based on my experience, I’ve always assumed it was a lake trout lake.
[0:40:43 – 0:40:46] Adam: Once we’re done with the lake numbers, go and look at that 78 one.
[0:40:46 – 0:40:48] Adam: I want to see how many walleyes they caught in 78.
[0:40:48 – 0:40:49] Erik: See if it’s changed.
[0:40:49 – 0:40:52] Adam: Tulabies.
[0:40:52 – 0:40:52] Adam: Tulabies.
[0:40:53 – 0:40:54] Adam: Quite a few.
[0:40:55 – 0:40:56] Adam: Up to nine inches.
[0:40:56 – 0:40:59] Adam: There’s just a handful over nine inches.
[0:41:00 – 0:41:01] Adam: Just a handful.
[0:41:01 – 0:41:02] Adam: Smaller ciscos.
[0:41:03 – 0:41:05] Adam: One of those jumbo ciscos.
[0:41:05 – 0:41:08] Erik: One smallmouth bass.
[0:41:08 – 0:41:12] Erik: Of course, they always say smallmouth bass are hard to net.
[0:41:12 – 0:41:14] Erik: They’re hard to net.
[0:41:16 – 0:41:20] Erik: So you’ve got your white sucker, but there’s also some lake whitefish.
[0:41:21 – 0:41:22] Adam: Decent whitefish.
[0:41:22 – 0:41:23] Adam: Wow, really good whitefish.
[0:41:24 – 0:41:26] Adam: I want to ice fish this lake bad.
[0:41:27 – 0:41:29] Adam: Wow, there’s only four lake trout.
[0:41:30 – 0:41:31] Erik: Yeah.
[0:41:31 – 0:41:36] Adam: And the whole episode would have been like, man, we caught some nice lake trout in there, which we have.
[0:41:36 – 0:41:37] Erik: We have.
[0:41:37 – 0:41:40] Adam: But it’s literally the weakest of the major species.
[0:41:41 – 0:41:41] Erik: Right.
[0:41:42 – 0:41:45] Adam: Four lake trout caught in the 98 sample.
[0:41:46 – 0:41:52] Adam: Biggest, they had two in the 25 to 29 range, which that checks out.
[0:41:54 – 0:41:55] Erik: Yeah, it kind of does.
[0:41:55 – 0:41:55] Erik: I’ll just say that.
[0:41:56 – 0:41:57] Erik: Burbot.
[0:41:57 – 0:41:59] Erik: Burbots are the easiest to net.
[0:41:59 – 0:42:00] Erik: Everybody knows that.
[0:42:00 – 0:42:05] Adam: Everybody knows they literally, they actually eat nets.
[0:42:05 – 0:42:06] Adam: They migrate right into the net.
[0:42:07 – 0:42:12] Erik: Do you know anything about the little operation on Lake Superior right now with those lake nettings?
[0:42:12 – 0:42:13] Erik: It’s the Menominee.
[0:42:13 – 0:42:14] Erik: Is that what they’re netting?
[0:42:14 – 0:42:14] Adam: Yes.
[0:42:15 – 0:42:15] Erik: Okay.
[0:42:15 – 0:42:19] Adam: The Menominee is a relative of the whitefish.
[0:42:19 – 0:42:21] Adam: As far as I know, like I said, I was…
[0:42:22 – 0:42:52] Adam: last episode i said it was down in green bay visiting family i said do they have the menominee in lake michigan i’ve grown up near lake michigan my whole childhood and i never remember hearing about it and they said no i don’t think they ever did so i think it’s unique to lake superior watershed is the menominee it’s a very delicious fish you can uh they’re netting them right now it’s a pretty short season where they net those and then you can buy them right in town
[0:42:52 – 0:42:53] Erik: Yeah.
[0:42:53 – 0:42:56] Erik: I kind of assumed it was something along those lines, but I’d never seen one.
[0:42:56 – 0:43:06] Adam: Oh, I was heading into town a couple times recently where I’ve been heading real early for work, just trying to get in early and out, and they’ve been out pulling the nets when I go by.
[0:43:06 – 0:43:09] Adam: I’ve been very tempted to just stop and kind of watch the operation.
[0:43:09 – 0:43:11] Adam: I want to see what that’s all about on the big lake.
[0:43:11 – 0:43:14] Adam: I’ve never seen that kind of net pulling.
[0:43:14 – 0:43:14] Adam: Nice.
[0:43:15 – 0:43:16] Erik: Burbot, though.
[0:43:16 – 0:43:21] Erik: They do have fresh menominee on the chalkboard in front of Johnson’s.
[0:43:22 – 0:43:22] Adam: Yeah, yeah.
[0:43:22 – 0:43:25] Adam: It’s definitely available right now and well worth it.
[0:43:25 – 0:43:28] Adam: Last year I was told about it and then I missed it.
[0:43:29 – 0:43:30] Adam: By the time I went to go buy some, they were out.
[0:43:31 – 0:43:31] Adam: Sold out.
[0:43:32 – 0:43:36] Adam: So yeah, the netting season seems to be working for them up here.
[0:43:36 – 0:43:38] Erik: Happy netting.
[0:43:38 – 0:43:39] Erik: Happy netting.
[0:43:39 – 0:43:41] Adam: So can we quick look at the 78 numbers?
[0:43:41 – 0:43:43] Adam: I just want to see what the walleye go for.
[0:43:43 – 0:43:45] Erik: Yeah, we’ll go there in a second here.
[0:43:45 – 0:43:56] Erik: I was just kind of quick reading that the walleye catch was within the normal range for lakes of this class, but it was the highest yet observed in this lake.
[0:43:56 – 0:43:59] Erik: So it sounds like anything else that we go back to is going to be lower.
[0:43:59 – 0:43:59] Erik: Right.
[0:44:00 – 0:44:04] Erik: The population was sustained entirely through natural reproduction.
[0:44:04 – 0:44:05] Erik: That’s always cool.
[0:44:06 – 0:44:15] Erik: With strong year classes produced in 94-95, walleye growth had been fast by area standards, probably due to an excellent northern cisco forage base.
[0:44:16 – 0:44:16] SPEAKER_03: Hmm.
[0:44:17 – 0:44:19] Erik: Well, I learned something tonight.
[0:44:19 – 0:44:20] Erik: I sure did, too.
[0:44:20 – 0:44:26] Erik: That Moose Lake, maybe if it’s not anymore, used to be what looks like a slightly above average walleye lake.
[0:44:27 – 0:44:28] Adam: You know, I’m on board.
[0:44:28 – 0:44:29] Adam: I would try it.
[0:44:29 – 0:44:32] Erik: Yeah, let’s just kind of go back in time here.
[0:44:32 – 0:44:33] Erik: We’ll go back to 93.
[0:44:34 – 0:44:36] Erik: Walleye down to a total of 59.
[0:44:36 – 0:44:38] Erik: Still four lake trout.
[0:44:38 – 0:44:40] Adam: So there’s walleye in there.
[0:44:40 – 0:44:40] Erik: That’s crazy.
[0:44:41 – 0:44:43] Erik: Just four lake trout again.
[0:44:43 – 0:44:44] Adam: Well, they don’t hit the X-Rab, do they?
[0:44:45 – 0:44:45] Adam: Well, they should.
[0:44:46 – 0:44:47] Erik: All the way to 78.
[0:44:48 – 0:44:49] Erik: Lake trout 41.
[0:44:49 – 0:44:50] Erik: Oh, wait.
[0:44:50 – 0:44:51] Erik: The whitefish.
[0:44:51 – 0:44:55] Erik: This is just a different standard.
[0:44:55 – 0:44:57] Erik: Yeah, this is your standard.
[0:44:57 – 0:44:58] Adam: They caught a brook trout in there.
[0:44:59 – 0:45:24] Erik: that’s crazy uh-huh they used to do things differently i know 70s silly again more walleye 10 walleye 8 lake trout crazy yeah i mean so it’s possible all of the experiences i’ve had out there have been dealing with the lake trout specifically the one time we were out there on the trip with uh the clearwater crew yeah i think it was the first summer
[0:45:24 – 0:45:28] Adam: Yeah, it was literally like our first trip together.
[0:45:28 – 0:45:28] Adam: First trip ever.
[0:45:29 – 0:45:30] Adam: Did the Clearwater Loop.
[0:45:30 – 0:45:31] Adam: Did the Clearwater Loop.
[0:45:31 – 0:45:44] Erik: We ended up on Pine for a night, and then we’re coming around on Moose, and you were over in the canoe with Deacon Scott, reading Hunter S. Thompson, and I was in the canoe with Tori and Marla the dog.
[0:45:44 – 0:45:44] Adam: Oh, Marla.
[0:45:45 – 0:45:45] Erik: Yeah.
[0:45:45 – 0:45:46] Erik: That was the craziest part.
[0:45:46 – 0:45:53] Erik: And we were coming down moose and I’m like, we got to troll, get the X wraps in the water, get the spoons in the water, this lake trout.
[0:45:53 – 0:45:56] Erik: And I remember it was the one time in my whole life that I called a fish.
[0:45:57 – 0:45:57] Erik: Yes.
[0:45:57 – 0:46:01] Erik: I was like coming around this point, I’m nailing a lake trout.
[0:46:01 – 0:46:02] Erik: And we sure did.
[0:46:02 – 0:46:02] Erik: Yeah.
[0:46:03 – 0:46:30] Erik: slight dog a little inside of us yeah and you were in right on that point perfect we were trolling too yeah and then you tagged that thing it went it went like trying to take the rod in the water oh yeah and there’s so there’s like i was just kind of slowly paddling we had a nice tailwind and then the the the rod was propped with my feet and then it just the thing just sucked down that rod tip and for a second i was like snag dang it
[0:46:30 – 0:46:30] Adam: Yeah.
[0:46:30 – 0:46:32] Erik: That’s always a pain when you got a nice tailwind.
[0:46:32 – 0:46:35] Adam: You know it’s a good fish when you first think it’s a snag.
[0:46:35 – 0:46:35] Erik: Yeah.
[0:46:36 – 0:46:42] Erik: And so I go to grab it and then like immediately try to like think about kind of back paddling to get back.
[0:46:42 – 0:46:46] Erik: And then it’s, no, all right, this is coming towards me.
[0:46:46 – 0:46:50] Erik: And then we have this huge tailwind.
[0:46:50 – 0:46:52] Erik: It wasn’t huge, but it was substantial.
[0:46:53 – 0:46:53] Erik: It was pushing us.
[0:46:54 – 0:46:59] Erik: So it was also adding to like the fight of like weight against this fish that
[0:46:59 – 0:47:02] Erik: And it was a pretty good battle.
[0:47:02 – 0:47:03] Erik: We were going for a while.
[0:47:03 – 0:47:04] Erik: We didn’t have a net.
[0:47:04 – 0:47:05] Erik: Didn’t have a net.
[0:47:05 – 0:47:06] Erik: No net.
[0:47:06 – 0:47:07] Adam: Just a scared husky.
[0:47:07 – 0:47:12] Erik: Just a very scared husky who was laying in the compartment in front of me.
[0:47:12 – 0:47:19] Erik: And Tori who was kind of trying to angle the canoe so I didn’t get too sideways in the waves.
[0:47:20 – 0:47:22] Erik: And we finally landed this thing.
[0:47:22 – 0:47:25] Erik: And, I mean, it was probably close to like a 30-inch.
[0:47:25 – 0:47:26] Erik: Maybe it was right around 30-inch.
[0:47:26 – 0:47:27] Erik: It was a monster.
[0:47:28 – 0:47:32] Erik: And this was back in the days when it was like, food, who needs food, whatever.
[0:47:32 – 0:47:34] Erik: We’ll bring some fruit roll-ups.
[0:47:34 – 0:47:37] Erik: And we’ll just go to bed on whiskey.
[0:47:37 – 0:47:38] Adam: Apples.
[0:47:38 – 0:47:39] Adam: Why do we bring apples?
[0:47:39 – 0:47:40] Adam: But we did.
[0:47:40 – 0:47:41] Erik: So we’re like, let’s keep it.
[0:47:41 – 0:47:43] Erik: We’ll cook this thing up.
[0:47:43 – 0:47:44] Erik: It’ll feed the whole group.
[0:47:44 – 0:47:44] Erik: It did, though.
[0:47:45 – 0:47:48] Erik: And yeah, but we were on moose and we had to portage.
[0:47:48 – 0:47:49] Erik: We portaged up.
[0:47:49 – 0:47:50] Erik: That’s right.
[0:47:50 – 0:47:51] Erik: To Vesu.
[0:47:51 – 0:47:52] Erik: Yeah, you’re right.
[0:47:52 – 0:47:54] Adam: I thought we were like going to just stay there, but we didn’t.
[0:47:54 – 0:47:56] Adam: We decided to go through those portages.
[0:47:56 – 0:47:59] Erik: Yeah, we had to take four portages or whatever into mountain.
[0:47:59 – 0:48:08] Erik: And then we got into mountain and everybody was hangry and got into that campsite where the portage goes up to Pemmican or whatever.
[0:48:08 – 0:48:11] Adam: Yeah, we really pushed a long way after catching the fish.
[0:48:11 – 0:48:12] Adam: We should have just hung it up.
[0:48:12 – 0:48:12] Erik: Yeah.
[0:48:13 – 0:48:17] Erik: And, but we gutted the thing and cooked it up and it was an amazing meal.
[0:48:17 – 0:48:18] Erik: It was majestic.
[0:48:18 – 0:48:19] Erik: What a meal.
[0:48:20 – 0:48:21] Erik: Everybody got their fill.
[0:48:21 – 0:48:23] Erik: It was one of those times where.
[0:48:23 – 0:48:24] Adam: It almost ate too much.
[0:48:25 – 0:48:25] Erik: Yeah.
[0:48:25 – 0:48:26] Adam: But we ate it all.
[0:48:27 – 0:48:27] Erik: Yeah.
[0:48:27 – 0:48:32] Erik: I think it was kind of like, it wasn’t like a selfish, it was like, I kind of want to eat this, but then it was also like.
[0:48:32 – 0:48:38] Adam: Yeah, you feel bad keeping a fish that big, but at the time and the trip, it was… And I think it was kind of hooked a little badly.
[0:48:38 – 0:48:40] Adam: It was kind of borderline badly hooked.
[0:48:41 – 0:48:42] Adam: I think that was playing into our decision.
[0:48:43 – 0:48:46] Adam: Like, yeah, we got time ahead of us, but this is dinner right now.
[0:48:47 – 0:48:48] Adam: One dinner in your hand is…
[0:48:49 – 0:48:54] Erik: Worth two in the bush, two in the water, two in the scrubby landing.
[0:48:54 – 0:48:54] Adam: Yeah.
[0:48:55 – 0:48:57] Adam: So yeah, that was fun.
[0:48:58 – 0:49:06] Adam: That’s my, that’s my greatest memory from moose is that fish were in the canoe, like paralleling you, like we’re just a little back and outside and we were basically trolling together and
[0:49:07 – 0:49:30] Adam: just was there to witness that entire thing like as soon as you hit it and then we realized it was a fish like we were speed reeling in our stuff yeah and then trying to get in position but like i said nobody had a net right so we were just kind of like getting over there and we didn’t want to get in the way to ruin it but also trying to get close to help it was funny you guys were just kind of off in the distance just like gawking hey don’t mess up stressfully even
[0:49:31 – 0:49:32] Adam: fighting this fish.
[0:49:32 – 0:49:33] Adam: You got dinner over there, right?
[0:49:33 – 0:49:34] Adam: Yeah.
[0:49:34 – 0:49:35] Adam: We had no idea that it was that big.
[0:49:36 – 0:49:41] Adam: I do remember I had a couple of pretty good pictures on my old, like, Fuji Coolpix 30.
[0:49:41 – 0:49:42] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:49:42 – 0:49:42] Erik: That’s the one thing.
[0:49:42 – 0:49:44] Erik: There really aren’t any pictures that I know of.
[0:49:45 – 0:49:46] Adam: I have a nice picture of it.
[0:49:46 – 0:49:51] Erik: Well, like, that are just kind of out in the wild, you know, where you’re like, yeah, just scroll back four years in Facebook.
[0:49:51 – 0:49:52] Erik: You can find it.
[0:49:52 – 0:49:53] Erik: Yeah, I don’t know where that would be.
[0:49:53 – 0:49:54] Erik: It’s out there, but it’s not like that out there.
[0:49:55 – 0:49:58] Adam: They have, like, an old external hard drive somewhere I couldn’t find.
[0:49:58 – 0:49:58] Adam: Yeah.
[0:49:59 – 0:50:00] Adam: So…
[0:50:00 – 0:50:23] Adam: anyways very cool and uh i think that’s pretty much a good place to leave moose half the reason why we did the episode was to tell the story about that amazing and it’s amazing we saved that beautiful story for season two yeah so i don’t know how many of you have been to moose hit us up let us know what you think uh it’s kind of a rare uh get i would say
[0:50:24 – 0:50:44] Adam: yeah it is for sure it’s a tough one as we described at the top of the episode kind of a tough entry point if you’re actually going to go right to it from the fowls a lot of portaging and paddling involved just to get into the doorstep and then but you do have your pick of a couple decent campsites once you’re there and as we said it’s usually sparsely populated
[0:50:45 – 0:50:46] Erik: Oh, it’s always quiet out there.
[0:50:47 – 0:50:49] Erik: I mean, again, it’s been my experience.
[0:50:49 – 0:50:51] Erik: It might not be yours.
[0:50:51 – 0:50:57] Erik: And that’s the way I talk to most people who come through Clearwater or just talk to me in general.
[0:50:58 – 0:50:59] Erik: It’s been my experience.
[0:50:59 – 0:51:05] Adam: The way you trolled that point and caught that beautiful lake trout, it reminds me of when Maverick buzzed the tower.
[0:51:05 – 0:51:06] Adam: Yeah.
[0:51:08 – 0:51:32] Adam: don’t do it mav don’t do it you know i’m gonna do it i’m gonna i’m gonna buzz the tower and i was too close you’re too close coffee rattling in the yeah min three with scott and deke but uh magical memory one of many we have had together but that was always a special one just because that was our first i like that our first trip together was a clear water loop oh very fitting that’s very nice the outside one too the big clear water loop
[0:51:33 – 0:51:33] Erik: Yeah.
[0:51:34 – 0:51:37] Erik: And I think, yeah, that’s a good place to close on Moose.
[0:51:37 – 0:51:44] Erik: If you don’t have any other memories on it, I think there’s a couple of other things that that has brought to my mind that we could maybe talk about before we.
[0:51:46 – 0:51:52] Adam: Yeah, we did do another clearwater loop later, and we stayed on moose itself.
[0:51:52 – 0:51:54] Adam: We actually camped on campsite two.
[0:51:54 – 0:52:02] Adam: The trip that we caught the fish, we didn’t actually stay there, but the next one we did stay there, then we kind of pushed it all the way from there back home.
[0:52:02 – 0:52:09] Adam: Both of those trips we did two-nighters, pine, and then you kind of tuck around to the north side and hit it and then get back on the last day.
[0:52:09 – 0:52:13] Erik: Yeah, I mean, people always ask, you know, how long does it take to do the Clearwater Loop?
[0:52:13 – 0:52:20] Erik: I want to do this, and it’s tough to… That’s another thing we should kind of just mention, I guess, and we just have.
[0:52:20 – 0:52:24] Adam: It’s a big part of the Clearwater Loop if you want to do the outside run.
[0:52:25 – 0:52:25] Adam: You’re going to go through moose.
[0:52:26 – 0:52:36] Erik: Yeah, that’s one thing that it’s always a decision if you want to do the inside loop, you know, Pine, John, back on the pikes, or if you want to go for the big border lakes.
[0:52:37 – 0:52:39] Erik: My preference is bigger…
[0:52:41 – 0:52:45] Erik: Water is more adventurous.
[0:52:45 – 0:52:46] Erik: It just feels cooler.
[0:52:47 – 0:52:54] Erik: There’s something about being out in the open like that, but then obviously you expose yourself to the elements and the wind and everything that comes along with it.
[0:52:55 – 0:52:56] Erik: And then depending on the time.
[0:52:57 – 0:53:01] Adam: Yeah, the trip with the big fish, we ended up that next day leaving a mountain.
[0:53:01 – 0:53:02] Adam: We got brutalized on a mountain.
[0:53:02 – 0:53:04] Adam: Brutalized by a west wind.
[0:53:04 – 0:53:06] Adam: It took us forever to get home.
[0:53:06 – 0:53:09] Erik: We had to stop at multiple campsites and let the arms rest.
[0:53:10 – 0:53:10] Erik: Un-noodle.
[0:53:11 – 0:53:12] Erik: I didn’t even know if we were going to make it back.
[0:53:12 – 0:53:15] Erik: At one point, it was like, we might just have to hunker down here.
[0:53:15 – 0:53:16] Adam: It was rough.
[0:53:16 – 0:53:20] Adam: So that’s the danger, but also the reward.
[0:53:21 – 0:53:24] Erik: Yeah, so I don’t know.
[0:53:24 – 0:53:26] Erik: I think there’s an opportunity maybe this summer.
[0:53:26 – 0:53:29] Erik: I know you talked about how we should just do a Clearwater episode again.
[0:53:29 – 0:53:30] Erik: We should.
[0:53:30 – 0:53:32] Adam: We’ll do a Clearwater episode every season.
[0:53:32 – 0:53:34] Erik: I think we should maybe just do a loop episode.
[0:53:35 – 0:53:35] Adam: That would be fun.
[0:53:36 – 0:53:37] Adam: Or the Bootstrom Classic.
[0:53:37 – 0:53:39] Adam: I kind of had that in my notes, too, when I was home.
[0:53:39 – 0:53:40] Adam: Well, that was what reminded me.
[0:53:40 – 0:53:47] Adam: Brother Andrew had asked, you know, are you guys still going to do the thing where you do the Clearwater Loop, like the challenge?
[0:53:47 – 0:53:47] Erik: Yes.
[0:53:48 – 0:53:49] Adam: The Bootstrom Classic.
[0:53:49 – 0:53:50] Adam: Yes.
[0:53:50 – 0:53:51] Adam: And I think we are.
[0:53:52 – 0:53:56] Adam: So we actually didn’t get to this yet in this season, and we should probably mention it quickly.
[0:53:56 – 0:53:57] SPEAKER_04: Quickly.
[0:53:57 – 0:53:59] Erik: You don’t have to be that quick about it.
[0:53:59 – 0:54:00] Adam: We’re going to leave.
[0:54:02 – 0:54:03] Adam: I think we want to reopen the thing.
[0:54:04 – 0:54:08] Adam: We can’t have it be an official competition where people are out there actually racing on the same day.
[0:54:08 – 0:54:21] Adam: The Forest Service isn’t going to have it, but we can kind of have an on-your-own-honor loop of the Clearwater, the Boost Room Classic system, in which here’s kind of the general idea we have.
[0:54:23 – 0:54:27] Adam: We’ll just have a logbook at the counter at Clearwater Lodge.
[0:54:27 – 0:54:36] Erik: Yeah, and there’s places like that do this already where you kind of sign up for doing this and then you get written in and then at the end of the year.
[0:54:36 – 0:54:37] Erik: Come back.
[0:54:37 – 0:54:39] Erik: Hey, these are all the people that did it.
[0:54:39 – 0:54:39] Erik: Yeah.
[0:54:39 – 0:54:41] Erik: And it’s how long it took them to do it.
[0:54:41 – 0:54:50] Erik: And in the spirit of the Boundary Waters, I don’t have a problem with maybe filtering in a little bit of kind of some fun competition.
[0:54:51 – 0:54:52] Erik: It’s already a passion of mine.
[0:54:53 – 0:55:17] Erik: absolutely in terms of the banjo waters itself and yes i understand if you’re somebody who doesn’t necessarily see the banjo waters as a place that should be seen as competitive competitive or i why would you want to race to do something it’s not i mean and then and i want to be careful to say that it’s not it’s not a race but i also think it’s not a race there’s no prize
[0:55:17 – 0:55:23] Erik: There’s no prize, but I also think it’s kind of cool to just see like what you can push yourself to do.
[0:55:23 – 0:55:25] Adam: Yeah, finding your own limits as a paddler.
[0:55:25 – 0:55:26] Erik: Within a place like that.
[0:55:26 – 0:55:39] Adam: You know, if you’re in a spot where you feel like you’re really getting the miles on and you feel confident and you’re paddling, it’s kind of a fun thing to go out and see like, well, how far can I go in a day?
[0:55:39 – 0:55:39] Erik: Yeah.
[0:55:40 – 0:55:42] Adam: How far can I go in 12 hours?
[0:55:42 – 0:55:42] Adam: Exactly.
[0:55:42 – 0:55:42] Adam: So…
[0:55:46 – 0:55:50] Erik: And that’s why we’ve never wanted it to be like a mass start where it’s like chug, chug, chug.
[0:55:50 – 0:55:53] Adam: And that wouldn’t even fly with the current system.
[0:55:54 – 0:56:04] Adam: But our idea basically is, and my brother kind of brought this up to me again and jogged the memory that we were originally working on this and kind of got shut down as having it be a one-day event.
[0:56:04 – 0:56:06] Adam: But maybe it just needs to be a season-long event.
[0:56:07 – 0:56:09] Adam: And that’s kind of what we’re getting at here.
[0:56:09 – 0:56:18] Adam: So if you want to try the clear water loop, either the big one or the little one or either version of them, I think there’s about three different ways you can really do it.
[0:56:18 – 0:56:19] Adam: Yeah.
[0:56:20 – 0:56:21] Adam: You know, just stop in the lodge.
[0:56:22 – 0:56:23] Adam: Check in at the front desk.
[0:56:23 – 0:56:24] Adam: We’re heading out.
[0:56:24 – 0:56:26] Adam: You know, if you’re going to do it in a couple nights, okay.
[0:56:26 – 0:56:33] Adam: If you’re going to actually try and go like in June and do it all in one day, you just let the desk know and they’ll kind of take note.
[0:56:34 – 0:56:50] Adam: we even toyed with the idea of like leaving a copy of for whom the bell tolls and the mcfarland like primitive campsite somewhere hidden in a culvert or yeah up in the fourth birch tree on the left from so-and-so i think at this point you go and pull like all right you get page 102
[0:56:51 – 0:56:51] Erik: Yeah.
[0:56:51 – 0:56:55] Erik: Bring me back page one Oh two from, from the book that’s hidden in the woods.
[0:56:56 – 0:56:56] Adam: Yeah.
[0:56:56 – 0:57:00] Adam: To prove you actually got all the way in McFarland, but I don’t know that we really need to go that far.
[0:57:00 – 0:57:04] Erik: I think to a point where it feels like there’s no way that’s possible that that guy did that.
[0:57:05 – 0:57:05] Erik: There’s not.
[0:57:05 – 0:57:05] Erik: Yeah.
[0:57:05 – 0:57:13] Adam: I don’t think there’s going to be anybody trying to scam us for a zero price, a sum for a shout out on a podcast.
[0:57:13 – 0:57:13] Adam: I highly doubt it.
[0:57:13 – 0:57:20] Adam: I think anybody listening to the pod, this podcast is a paddler of honor and we’ll be trusted.
[0:57:20 – 0:57:20] Adam: So,
[0:57:20 – 0:57:22] Erik: That’s what we should just call all of our listeners.
[0:57:22 – 0:57:26] Adam: Paddler, you come up to the desk and you say, I am a paddler of honor.
[0:57:27 – 0:57:34] Adam: And then we will know that you’ve listened to our, almost the end of our one of this episode to know the code word.
[0:57:34 – 0:57:36] Adam: I am a paddler of honor.
[0:57:36 – 0:57:39] Adam: And I request the chance to try the Bostrom Classic.
[0:57:40 – 0:57:43] Erik: And you have to take a knee, and then I will take a paddle.
[0:57:43 – 0:57:49] Adam: Sir Eric will knight you in the name of the father, in the name of the mother.
[0:57:49 – 0:57:53] Erik: In the name of Bostrom, in the name of Charlie, in the name of Petra.
[0:57:54 – 0:57:55] Adam: And then we’ll send you off on your way.
[0:57:55 – 0:58:06] Adam: So we’ll write your name down in the little unofficial notebook, and then at the end of the season, if anybody’s actually completed it and finished as a paddler of honor, we will include you.
[0:58:06 – 0:58:07] Erik: Yeah.
[0:58:07 – 0:58:09] Adam: I don’t know even if we’ll fit one in, but…
[0:58:09 – 0:58:10] Adam: I think that’s a good place to start.
[0:58:10 – 0:58:14] Adam: And we’ll kind of have this as an ongoing challenge throughout the years.
[0:58:14 – 0:58:17] Erik: Do you remember what the last fall when we did ours?
[0:58:18 – 0:58:19] Erik: Was that 13 hours?
[0:58:19 – 0:58:19] Adam: No, no.
[0:58:20 – 0:58:21] Adam: We were sub-12.
[0:58:21 – 0:58:24] Adam: If you go back and listen, we were sub-12 on that one.
[0:58:24 – 0:58:27] Adam: I know we’ve had a mark of that.
[0:58:27 – 0:58:30] Adam: It was like literally 11 hours and 55 minutes.
[0:58:31 – 0:58:36] Adam: We came in with a long stop at Johnson Falls for a soak.
[0:58:36 – 0:58:37] Adam: I was really…
[0:58:38 – 0:58:42] Adam: really zapped by the time we got back down to the end of pine and I just needed it.
[0:58:42 – 0:58:45] Adam: And then we did a nice video, um, coming down caribou.
[0:58:45 – 0:58:45] Erik: Oh yes.
[0:58:46 – 0:58:46] Erik: We were flying.
[0:58:47 – 0:58:47] Erik: Yeah.
[0:58:47 – 0:58:51] Adam: And then it was kind of a smoggy and calm and we were just flying.
[0:58:51 – 0:58:53] Adam: So really cool trip.
[0:58:53 – 0:58:53] Adam: So
[0:58:53 – 0:58:59] Erik: Speaking of video, we’re also still working out the kinks on the video.
[0:58:59 – 0:59:10] Erik: I think the only time we’re going to for sure be in a video situation is going to be in Studio K. Otherwise, in the field stuff, I think we can definitely do some because those are short records.
[0:59:10 – 0:59:13] Erik: Those aren’t just us sitting in front of a computer for an hour and a half straight.
[0:59:14 – 0:59:16] Erik: So look forward to those.
[0:59:16 – 0:59:21] Erik: And I think we can maybe segue and then finish on…
[0:59:22 – 0:59:25] Erik: what we’re eyeing for our trip.
[0:59:25 – 0:59:28] Adam: We kind of did touch on this in episode 53.
[0:59:28 – 0:59:28] Adam: Yeah.
[0:59:29 – 0:59:30] Erik: If you’re interested.
[0:59:30 – 0:59:31] Erik: Oh, no, I thought we were on 50.
[0:59:31 – 0:59:33] Adam: We’re on 55 now.
[0:59:33 – 0:59:33] Adam: Yes.
[0:59:33 – 0:59:36] Adam: Oh, we touched and then we kind of teased.
[0:59:36 – 0:59:43] Erik: Yeah, if you listened closely enough over the chip tune in the last episode, you maybe have heard where we were eyeing.
[0:59:44 – 0:59:53] Adam: So I know we said that you shouldn’t start out your season by just going big and going for miles, but we have this time, and so it’s just too enticing.
[0:59:53 – 0:59:53] Erik: Yeah.
[0:59:53 – 0:59:55] Adam: And so we were looking at Little Sag.
[0:59:55 – 0:59:57] Adam: We had talked about it in 53.
[0:59:58 – 0:59:59] Adam: I’ve never been to Little Sag.
[0:59:59 – 1:00:00] Erik: You’ve never been?
[1:00:00 – 1:00:02] Erik: It’s been five or six years since I’ve been.
[1:00:02 – 1:00:11] Adam: And there’s a whole gateway of weird and interesting waters out to the west from Little Sag that we could then attempt to navigate.
[1:00:11 – 1:00:12] Adam: Yeah.
[1:00:12 – 1:00:13] Adam: That’s our plan.
[1:00:15 – 1:00:27] Adam: And if anybody has any recon from the reaches of Boulder Lake, perhaps, or I’m trying to think of some of those little weird ones in between the Mugwump.
[1:00:28 – 1:00:33] Adam: There’s a little narrow passage between the two PMAs out there to the west that you can run.
[1:00:33 – 1:00:36] Adam: We may dip into one of the PMAs.
[1:00:36 – 1:00:36] Adam: Who knows?
[1:00:37 – 1:00:38] Adam: The beauty of a four-day trip is…
[1:00:39 – 1:00:40] Erik: Anything can happen.
[1:00:40 – 1:00:49] Erik: That was, I think in my mind, it’s almost like start by aiming towards the little sag and then see how far we make it.
[1:00:49 – 1:00:49] Erik: Sure.
[1:00:50 – 1:00:51] Erik: And watch the weather.
[1:00:51 – 1:00:52] Erik: And I mean.
[1:00:52 – 1:00:53] Adam: It’ll be a trip.
[1:00:53 – 1:00:55] Adam: You actually get to bring a weather radio on.
[1:00:55 – 1:00:56] Adam: Yeah.
[1:00:56 – 1:00:57] Adam: Kind of monitor the.
[1:00:57 – 1:01:04] Erik: We had to talk about what we want to try to, where we want to try to stage the night before, if we want to even try to get.
[1:01:05 – 1:01:05] Erik: Sure.
[1:01:05 – 1:01:09] Erik: In a lake or just be ready to get up super early on day one.
[1:01:09 – 1:01:34] Adam: yeah so that’s what we’re kind of planning and then uh the grand portage trip is still on the table just gonna have to get pushed a little farther into june but i think that’s okay i feel a little bit better about that it’s just because of water levels yeah i don’t want to pretty high still i don’t want to go through any crazy rapids i’d rather go through low water than high water yeah we can make a river burn is get out the polarized glasses and yeah navigate our way through so
[1:01:34 – 1:01:40] Erik: Yeah, so, you know, I think just in general, Boulder, Adams, those have always been lakes in my mind.
[1:01:40 – 1:01:41] Erik: Intriguing.
[1:01:41 – 1:01:43] Erik: That have always just been like that bullseye.
[1:01:43 – 1:01:45] Erik: I’m in the middle of the Boundary Waters.
[1:01:45 – 1:01:47] Adam: Yeah, we’re really going for the heart of the park.
[1:01:48 – 1:01:48] Erik: Yeah.
[1:01:48 – 1:01:53] Adam: And that’s kind of what we’re, in our private communications, been speaking of this trip as…
[1:01:54 – 1:02:20] Erik: heart of the park and it truly is it’s going to be really far out there yeah i mean just looking at the map in terms of what we’ve done in the past just with two nights and two days where we put in that saw bill and did the you know we did the laos river over to coma and paulie and back around i mean with four days i mean i obviously don’t want to be coming back a husk of a man but
[1:02:21 – 1:02:28] Erik: I also kind of want to take advantage and maybe get to a place that I haven’t been to, which it’s hard for me at this point.
[1:02:28 – 1:02:31] Adam: Physically and metaphysically.
[1:02:31 – 1:02:31] Erik: Yeah.
[1:02:32 – 1:02:40] Erik: But I did, you know, and this could maybe potentially change, obviously, but I did kind of like your suggestion of maybe, hey, maybe we just do like a half and half.
[1:02:41 – 1:02:44] Erik: Paddle really far and then camp and then paddle.
[1:02:44 – 1:02:45] Erik: So I don’t know.
[1:02:45 – 1:02:49] Erik: It’s still up in the air, but we are kind of eyeing the heart of the park.
[1:02:49 – 1:03:11] Erik: yeah so and i know that’s probably some of the conversations which is in my opinion some of the best parts of the barge waters is that planning is the map staring at potential what can you do where can you go whether that’s at the dining room table in the middle of the winter or
[1:03:12 – 1:03:25] Erik: Whether that’s at your entry point on the day that you’re out there or if it’s the fourth day of your trip and you’re looking to maybe veer off course, the map, the destination, just the… Don’t be afraid to veer.
[1:03:25 – 1:03:28] Erik: Yeah, everything about it is just… Don’t fear the veer.
[1:03:31 – 1:03:34] Erik: Don’t fear the veer.
[1:03:34 – 1:03:35] Erik: Is that like the opposite of fear the deer?
[1:03:35 – 1:03:37] Erik: No, it’s the same thing.
[1:03:38 – 1:03:41] Erik: So like the Milwaukee Bucks are somehow involved now?
[1:03:41 – 1:03:42] Erik: No, they’re not.
[1:03:42 – 1:03:43] Erik: They’re not involved at all.
[1:03:43 – 1:03:44] Erik: No, they’re not at all.
[1:03:45 – 1:03:46] Adam: All right, good sir.
[1:03:47 – 1:03:47] Adam: Yes.
[1:03:47 – 1:03:48] Adam: I must be off.
[1:03:49 – 1:03:49] Adam: Yes, you must.
[1:03:50 – 1:03:59] Adam: And with that, we will close episode 055 of Tumble Home, a Boundary Waters podcast.
[1:04:00 – 1:04:07] Adam: Thank you to our listeners and to Maverick and Goose and our good friends all over.
[1:04:08 – 1:04:12] Adam: We appreciate you listening, and it’s always fun to talk the park.
[1:04:13 – 1:04:17] Adam: Until next time, I’ve been Adam, and with me as always is Eric.
[1:04:17 – 1:04:19] Adam: Hello and goodbye.
[1:04:20 – 1:04:21] Adam: Arrivederci.
[1:04:25 – 1:04:29] Erik: No question of the week this week, but maybe we’ll post something maybe.
[1:04:29 – 1:04:31] Erik: Sometimes we talk about it in the episode.
[1:04:32 – 1:04:37] Adam: Yeah, you know, it’s like the thing where the question will arise when it needs to arise.
[1:04:37 – 1:04:39] Erik: I know we wanted to try to do the…
[1:04:42 – 1:04:43] Erik: Like what’s in your pack?
[1:04:44 – 1:04:44] Erik: Yeah.
[1:04:44 – 1:04:47] Erik: I don’t know how to translate that to a question.
[1:04:47 – 1:04:59] Adam: I think we’ll have to post our this is what’s in our pack video, and then we can request now that you’ve seen the form and the discipline, now you show us what’s in your pack.
[1:05:00 – 1:05:00] Adam: Same thing.
[1:05:00 – 1:05:01] Erik: Sure.
[1:05:01 – 1:05:04] Adam: I’ll show you what’s in our pack if you show me what’s in your pack.
[1:05:04 – 1:05:05] Erik: Potentially, yeah.
[1:05:05 – 1:05:08] Adam: That sounds not dirty and nasty at all.
[1:05:08 – 1:05:10] Erik: Yeah, you show me yours, I’ll show you mine.
[1:05:10 – 1:05:11] SPEAKER_04: One, two, three.
[1:05:12 – 1:05:13] SPEAKER_04: Thank you.
[1:05:30 – 1:05:54] SPEAKER_04: Living in government housing Living in government housing Government housing for me Everybody’s looking down on me Don’t give me your pity Because what you don’t see is I’m living there for free Living in government housing Living in government housing
[1:05:56 – 1:06:16] SPEAKER_03: government housing for me when I’m sleeping right next to my car the bathrooms ain’t very far who cares about privacy cause I’m living there for free living in government housing living in government housing government housing for me
[1:06:37 – 1:06:43] Adam: So we’ve been talking about doing book reports, and I started reading River Horse by William Least Heat Moon.
[1:06:44 – 1:06:46] Adam: It was an interesting and intriguing book.
[1:06:47 – 1:06:53] Adam: He takes a boat all the way across North America, from New York all the way over to the Pacific.
[1:06:53 – 1:06:58] Adam: And I said, that could be a fun one to start reading, so I started reading it and taking notes.
[1:06:58 – 1:07:01] Adam: And he calls his boat Necuaca.
[1:07:02 – 1:07:10] Adam: Now Wicca, which means river horse, and they like go up the Hudson River and then they start motoring across the Erie Canal.
[1:07:10 – 1:07:13] Adam: But the whole point was they have a motorboat they’re taking across.
[1:07:13 – 1:07:20] Adam: They’re going to end up going up the whole Missouri and then somehow portaging it across to the Columbia following the old Lewis and Clark route.
[1:07:21 – 1:07:25] Adam: And so I got like, he got to, they got to Buffalo and Tim and his friend.
[1:07:26 – 1:07:27] Adam: And I was just, I lost interest.
[1:07:27 – 1:07:29] Adam: You ever do that with a book?
[1:07:29 – 1:07:32] Adam: So anyways, that’s the end of my book report.
[1:07:32 – 1:07:36] Adam: I just quit when they got to, they got to Buffalo.
[1:07:36 – 1:07:39] Adam: I said, nah, I don’t want to read about a motorboat trip.
[1:07:39 – 1:07:42] Adam: This has no bearing on a Boundary Waters podcast.
[1:07:42 – 1:07:44] Adam: Anyways, that concludes my book report.
[1:07:44 – 1:07:48] Adam: It’s a D minus.
[1:07:48 – 1:07:49] Adam: Sorry.
[1:07:50 – 1:07:51] Adam: Read Blue Highways instead.
[1:07:51 – 1:07:53] Adam: Just read Blue Highways.
[1:07:53 – 1:07:54] Adam: Never mind about the river horse.
[1:07:54 – 1:07:57] Erik: Don’t give me a good excuse to use the reading rainbow transition.
[1:07:57 – 1:07:58] Erik: Perfect.
[1:07:58 – 1:07:58] Erik: The end.