Episode Transcript
[0:00:36 – 0:00:51] Adam: heave-ho heave-ho welcome to scummers it’s a whitefish netting podcast my name is francois lancaster coming to you from the scum boat live with my good my best mate eric hello welcome to the welcome to the lake
[0:00:51 – 0:00:52] Erik: Thanks for having me.
[0:00:53 – 0:00:59] Erik: A little disappointed I didn’t get more of a fun name to go along with this new endeavor that is Scummers.
[0:00:59 – 0:01:01] Adam: Three, two, one.
[0:01:02 – 0:01:06] Adam: My name is Francois Lacastor and joining me here in the boat…
[0:01:08 – 0:01:16] Adam: My good friend, Scales Jr. Scales Jr. Wow, from a long line.
[0:01:17 – 0:01:18] Adam: Scales III.
[0:01:18 – 0:01:20] Adam: Yeah, Scales III.
[0:01:21 – 0:01:23] Adam: My name is Francois Lacastore.
[0:01:23 – 0:01:24] Adam: Welcome to Scummers.
[0:01:24 – 0:01:27] Adam: This is a whitefishing podcast.
[0:01:27 – 0:01:31] Adam: Joining me here in the rowboat is my good friend, Scales III.
[0:01:31 – 0:01:32] Erik: My father was a scummer.
[0:01:33 – 0:01:34] Erik: His father was a scummer.
[0:01:34 – 0:01:35] Erik: That’s all I know.
[0:01:35 – 0:01:36] Adam: Grandpap was a scummer.
[0:01:36 – 0:01:37] Erik: Grandpap.
[0:01:39 – 0:01:40] Erik: Yeah, in the shed.
[0:01:40 – 0:01:42] Erik: We’re getting down there.
[0:01:42 – 0:01:48] Erik: We’re pushing the limits on the comfort factor, the beer survivability.
[0:01:49 – 0:01:52] Adam: We’re definitely going to have to evacuate some art supplies tonight.
[0:01:53 – 0:01:59] Adam: Just to be safe, Thanksgiving approaches and apparently winter possibly somewhere out there in the distance.
[0:02:00 – 0:02:04] Erik: It’s just kind of generally around the corner, but not really.
[0:02:04 – 0:02:05] Adam: Pretty balmy in November.
[0:02:05 – 0:02:05] Erik: Yeah.
[0:02:06 – 0:02:08] Erik: It’s the world we live in these days.
[0:02:08 – 0:02:23] Erik: Up here in the Northwoods, no ice on anything of any consequence, but I was on a light five-mile SHT hike and found myself right next to a solid frozen beaver pond.
[0:02:24 – 0:02:26] Erik: I almost felt like running back to the house and getting the skates.
[0:02:27 – 0:02:27] Erik: Ooh.
[0:02:28 – 0:02:32] Erik: But it’s like a two-mile hike in, so it’d be kind of ridiculous, but also sort of cool.
[0:02:32 – 0:02:33] Erik: Wild ice.
[0:02:33 – 0:02:35] Erik: Hike into just a pond.
[0:02:35 – 0:02:36] Adam: Yeah.
[0:02:36 – 0:02:37] Adam: Did you test it on boot?
[0:02:38 – 0:02:38] Erik: Yeah.
[0:02:38 – 0:02:39] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:02:39 – 0:02:40] Erik: You could definitely have skated on it.
[0:02:40 – 0:02:41] Erik: It was probably a solid two inches.
[0:02:41 – 0:02:46] Erik: It’s tiny, you know, and like on the backside of a hill.
[0:02:46 – 0:02:47] Erik: Mm-hmm.
[0:02:47 – 0:02:49] Erik: But perfect, like black ice.
[0:02:50 – 0:02:56] Erik: So if you can figure out where that pond is, there’s good skating up here.
[0:02:56 – 0:02:58] Erik: Everybody’s crazy for the wild ice.
[0:02:58 – 0:02:59] Adam: They are.
[0:02:59 – 0:03:01] Adam: Yeah, everybody’s thirsty for it.
[0:03:01 – 0:03:02] Adam: It’s a once-in-a-decade occurrence.
[0:03:03 – 0:03:03] Adam: Yeah.
[0:03:04 – 0:03:30] Adam: happen again everybody bought skates last year and it’s never gonna happen again probably not tonight’s ron shara outdoor calendar fact of the day november 20th 2021 lakes are slowly freezing sunset is at 4 39 p.m yikes it’s almost like i had a sneak peek at the calendar but i didn’t know that i don’t know
[0:03:31 – 0:03:31] Adam: Pretty good.
[0:03:32 – 0:03:32] Adam: Did you ever notice this?
[0:03:32 – 0:03:35] Adam: There’s Ron’s Outdoor Secrets on the bottom.
[0:03:35 – 0:03:36] Adam: I don’t know if every month has this.
[0:03:37 – 0:03:38] Erik: Is this just a November secret?
[0:03:39 – 0:03:40] Adam: Yeah, this is a November secret.
[0:03:40 – 0:03:42] Adam: Do your cover scents work?
[0:03:43 – 0:03:44] Adam: Some hunters say yes, others say no.
[0:03:44 – 0:03:45] Adam: So what’s the answer?
[0:03:45 – 0:03:46] Adam: Make it simple.
[0:03:47 – 0:03:49] Adam: When possible, always hunt with the wind in your favor.
[0:03:50 – 0:03:51] Adam: So that’s fun.
[0:03:51 – 0:03:54] Adam: I like how there are ten questions to set up that basic fact.
[0:03:55 – 0:03:55] Erik: I mean, also…
[0:03:55 – 0:03:56] Adam: It just seems like a bonus fact.
[0:03:57 – 0:03:58] Erik: Definitely not a secret.
[0:03:58 – 0:03:59] Adam: It’s not a secret.
[0:03:59 – 0:04:00] Adam: The wind helps.
[0:04:01 – 0:04:02] Adam: You won’t say.
[0:04:02 – 0:04:03] Erik: What was the question?
[0:04:05 – 0:04:06] Adam: There’s a lot of questions.
[0:04:06 – 0:04:07] Adam: Do deer cover scents work?
[0:04:07 – 0:04:09] Erik: Yeah, like do deer cover scents work?
[0:04:10 – 0:04:12] Erik: Some hunters say yes, others say no.
[0:04:13 – 0:04:14] Erik: So what’s the answer?
[0:04:14 – 0:04:15] Erik: Make it simple.
[0:04:18 – 0:04:19] Erik: They’re not making it simple.
[0:04:19 – 0:04:23] Erik: They’re just giving you a different conclusion by saying just play the wind.
[0:04:24 – 0:04:30] Adam: Yeah, Ron Cher is so close to purred happily that I can’t distinguish the two characters.
[0:04:32 – 0:04:40] Erik: Take a bath in skunk oil if you insist, but hunting the wind is your best defense against the nose of a whitetail.
[0:04:40 – 0:04:43] Adam: It’s also your best defense against the nose of a whitefish.
[0:04:43 – 0:04:44] Adam: Ooh, yeah.
[0:04:44 – 0:04:46] Adam: Corriganus, hello.
[0:04:46 – 0:04:48] Erik: You been bathing in skunk oils?
[0:04:49 – 0:04:49] Adam: And eggs.
[0:04:50 – 0:04:51] Adam: Skunk eggs?
[0:04:51 – 0:04:51] Adam: Fish eggs.
[0:04:53 – 0:04:54] Adam: Skunk oils and fish eggs.
[0:04:54 – 0:04:55] Adam: Skunk oils and fish eggs.
[0:04:55 – 0:04:57] Adam: This is a netters podcast.
[0:04:57 – 0:04:59] Erik: Welcome to skunk oil and fish eggs.
[0:04:59 – 0:05:01] Erik: Both land and water nets.
[0:05:01 – 0:05:01] Erik: Yeah.
[0:05:01 – 0:05:02] Erik: Next season.
[0:05:02 – 0:05:03] Adam: Sky nets.
[0:05:03 – 0:05:04] Erik: We’ve got sky nets.
[0:05:04 – 0:05:05] Erik: We’ve got land nets.
[0:05:05 – 0:05:06] Erik: And we’ve got water nets.
[0:05:06 – 0:05:07] Erik: What’s the next season?
[0:05:07 – 0:05:12] Adam: You know, I know a lot of people like to go ground netting, but for me, I’m a sky netter myself.
[0:05:13 – 0:05:14] Adam: Just superior comfort.
[0:05:14 – 0:05:20] Adam: My back always feels great in the morning when I’m capturing owls and flying squirrels out of my nets.
[0:05:20 – 0:05:22] Erik: Yeah, what is the limit on the boreal chickadee?
[0:05:23 – 0:05:23] Adam: Unlimited.
[0:05:23 – 0:05:24] Adam: It’s like the whitefish.
[0:05:25 – 0:05:26] Adam: Yeah, they’re secure.
[0:05:26 – 0:05:30] Adam: There’s a five-point rating on endangered to secure.
[0:05:30 – 0:05:33] Adam: Whitefish and boreal chickadee is both secure.
[0:05:34 – 0:05:34] Erik: Well, that’s good to know.
[0:05:35 – 0:05:36] Adam: Flying squirrels are like a three, though.
[0:05:36 – 0:05:40] Adam: You want to release those immediately when you get those in your Skynets.
[0:05:41 – 0:05:42] Erik: Skynet.
[0:05:43 – 0:05:49] Erik: Next up on Patreon, TCC, it’s Terminator 2 Judgment Day.
[0:05:50 – 0:05:52] Erik: No, we’re not going to talk about that kind of a Skynet.
[0:05:53 – 0:06:02] Erik: But next up on the Tumble Home Patreon Cinema Classics, how many other different ways can I cut up those words and say them in a different order?
[0:06:03 – 0:06:06] Erik: Tumble Home Classics on Patreon.
[0:06:06 – 0:06:08] Erik: We did Escanaba in Da Moonlight.
[0:06:10 – 0:06:21] Erik: Hopefully that has been one that has been able to bring you back from the scary, spooky side of our three-part spooktacular that was two parts of the Evil Dead series and American Psycho.
[0:06:22 – 0:06:42] Erik: but it was also a little uh i have to disagree with that i think that was the spookiest of the little spooky but i think there was much more in the way of like local humor that i got a little bit more of an enjoyment out of there’s a couple two tree fart jokes there’s a couple of poop jokes as well the same one it’s the same joke no yeah
[0:06:43 – 0:06:44] Erik: Probably.
[0:06:44 – 0:06:51] Erik: No, the poop joke is about how sodies have to stand up to get off of their poops because they’re so big after they go.
[0:06:51 – 0:06:52] Erik: Something along those lines.
[0:06:52 – 0:06:53] Adam: Yeah.
[0:06:55 – 0:07:02] Erik: Not the potential pumping of Jim Negomany and his legs.
[0:07:02 – 0:07:05] Erik: One potato, two potato, three potato, four.
[0:07:06 – 0:07:08] Adam: I forgot all about that part.
[0:07:08 – 0:07:08] Adam: Yeah.
[0:07:10 – 0:07:19] Adam: Scummers is also brought to you by our good friends on Patreon, fellow netters on Patreon.
[0:07:19 – 0:07:19] Adam: Fellow netters.
[0:07:19 – 0:07:22] Adam: We’ve got to come up with a better name for friends on Scummers.
[0:07:22 – 0:07:23] Erik: The Scummers Union?
[0:07:23 – 0:07:23] Erik: Yeah.
[0:07:28 – 0:07:34] Adam: Thank you to our friends on Patreon for putting up with this November nonsense.
[0:07:35 – 0:07:43] Erik: It is getting close to Oscar season, though, and so we’re going to be talking about The Revenant?
[0:07:43 – 0:07:43] Erik: The Reverent?
[0:07:44 – 0:07:45] Adam: It’s The Revenant.
[0:07:45 – 0:07:45] Erik: Revenants?
[0:07:46 – 0:07:46] Adam: Remnants.
[0:07:47 – 0:07:48] Adam: Yeah, there’s netting involved in that.
[0:07:48 – 0:07:49] Erik: The Remains of the Day.
[0:07:50 – 0:07:51] Erik: Remember that movie?
[0:07:51 – 0:07:52] Adam: No.
[0:07:52 – 0:07:53] Erik: I think it was sad.
[0:07:54 – 0:07:59] Erik: But yes, the Leo DiCaprio Best Actor.
[0:08:00 – 0:08:01] Erik: It didn’t win Best Picture or anything, though, did it?
[0:08:02 – 0:08:04] Adam: Yeah, I think we’ve been over this.
[0:08:04 – 0:08:07] Adam: It got beat out by Titanic, I think.
[0:08:10 – 0:08:13] Erik: Yeah, so it’s Oscar season, so we’re going to be talking about The Revenant.
[0:08:13 – 0:08:13] Erik: I’ve never seen it.
[0:08:13 – 0:08:14] Erik: You’ve seen it.
[0:08:14 – 0:08:21] Erik: I’ve just got to look for four hours to carve out of a day at some point here in the next week, but that will be happening and look forward to that.
[0:08:21 – 0:08:29] Erik: I’m sure commensurately long, according to how long the movie is, maybe the longest TCC ever based on a movie of that length.
[0:08:29 – 0:08:34] Erik: How many bear attacks can we break down?
[0:08:34 – 0:08:38] Adam: We’re going to have to get our Bart Rankers list out for sure.
[0:08:39 – 0:08:45] Erik: That’s the movie that Bart should have finally gotten his career, lifetime achievement award for.
[0:08:45 – 0:08:48] Erik: Well, it wasn’t his best work, but he was due.
[0:08:49 – 0:08:51] Erik: He should have won an 84 with Great Outdoors.
[0:08:51 – 0:08:52] Erik: He got snubbed.
[0:08:53 – 0:08:54] Erik: By Forrest Gump.
[0:08:54 – 0:08:55] Erik: By Forrest Gump.
[0:08:55 – 0:08:55] Erik: Yeah.
[0:08:57 – 0:08:59] Erik: So, yeah, thank you for all the shrimp.
[0:08:59 – 0:09:00] Erik: The shrimp beat him.
[0:09:01 – 0:09:03] Adam: Best animal in film Oscar.
[0:09:03 – 0:09:04] Adam: Yeah.
[0:09:05 – 0:09:16] Erik: Yeah, whoever the guy that trained, whoever Bart the Bear’s main trainer was, was very angry at the shrimp netter who was in charge of keeping the shrimp in charge.
[0:09:16 – 0:09:17] Erik: More nets.
[0:09:17 – 0:09:18] Erik: Yeah, more nets.
[0:09:19 – 0:09:22] Adam: This podcast is, of course, coming to you from the World Wide Internet.
[0:09:24 – 0:09:24] Erik: Net.
[0:09:24 – 0:09:25] Erik: More nets.
[0:09:25 – 0:09:26] Erik: It’s all nets.
[0:09:27 – 0:09:30] Adam: It’s all nets.
[0:09:30 – 0:09:30] Adam: It’s all nets.
[0:09:31 – 0:09:33] Adam: Yeah, been two weeks in the boat.
[0:09:33 – 0:09:37] Adam: We’re going to talk a little update on the, what’s the agenda for tonight?
[0:09:37 – 0:09:40] Adam: We’re going to give the agenda out, maybe get to our beer of the week here.
[0:09:40 – 0:09:41] Adam: The agenda.
[0:09:42 – 0:09:42] Adam: Is there an agenda?
[0:09:42 – 0:09:44] Adam: Update from Whitefish Camp.
[0:09:44 – 0:09:45] Adam: What’s up with the whitefish?
[0:09:46 – 0:09:46] Adam: Yep.
[0:09:46 – 0:09:47] Adam: How cold is the lake?
[0:09:48 – 0:09:49] Adam: How cold are the fish?
[0:09:49 – 0:09:56] Erik: Yeah, I love that you told me that the fish are, along with the water, also getting colder.
[0:09:56 – 0:09:57] Adam: Yeah, we found that out today.
[0:09:57 – 0:09:58] Adam: The fish are getting colder.
[0:09:58 – 0:09:59] Erik: I was like, is that a thing?
[0:10:00 – 0:10:00] Adam: Yeah, they are.
[0:10:01 – 0:10:02] Adam: Aren’t they warm-blooded?
[0:10:02 – 0:10:04] Adam: No, they’re just the same temperature as the water.
[0:10:05 – 0:10:07] Erik: I mean, yeah.
[0:10:07 – 0:10:08] Adam: Yeah, I think that’s true.
[0:10:08 – 0:10:11] Erik: I would have to imagine, but that can’t, again…
[0:10:13 – 0:10:17] Erik: The lights in the studio here I keep forgetting are activating off of our voices.
[0:10:17 – 0:10:19] Adam: Yeah, we have it on music mode.
[0:10:19 – 0:10:21] Adam: Let me hear the music in it.
[0:10:21 – 0:10:23] Adam: Wouldn’t it be…
[0:10:23 – 0:10:24] Erik: I mean… That’s true.
[0:10:25 – 0:10:26] Adam: That’s a rock fact.
[0:10:26 – 0:10:29] Adam: That’s a whitefish fact of the day.
[0:10:29 – 0:10:31] Erik: That fish are always the same temperature as the water?
[0:10:31 – 0:10:32] Adam: They’re the same temperature as the water.
[0:10:32 – 0:10:33] Adam: I’m going to go with it.
[0:10:33 – 0:10:37] Adam: It might not be right, but it feels right because my hands are killing me today.
[0:10:37 – 0:10:38] Adam: I got the scummer’s gloves.
[0:10:39 – 0:10:51] Erik: I’m thinking that you might be starting from a deficit by having their gloves and your hands in the water starting to get colder so that when you eventually do have to handle the fish, they feel colder and they’re probably exposed to colder air.
[0:10:51 – 0:10:52] Adam: Yeah, I don’t know.
[0:10:52 – 0:10:58] Adam: I’m sure it’s a combination of all that, but we’ve been out there two weeks now and I haven’t had hands that cold so far.
[0:10:58 – 0:10:59] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:10:59 – 0:11:11] Erik: I know we could reach back out to our fine friend from the fishery, the hatchery, who sent us all the great information on our episode that we did on lake trout.
[0:11:12 – 0:11:12] Adam: Yeah.
[0:11:12 – 0:11:18] Erik: But I can’t imagine that the actual temperature of the fish would be changing that greatly.
[0:11:18 – 0:11:19] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:11:19 – 0:11:21] Adam: It’s like a sous vide, but in reverse.
[0:11:21 – 0:11:21] Erik: Yeah.
[0:11:21 – 0:11:29] Erik: I mean, I definitely feel like fish caught in the summer feel like they’re probably warmer than they would be in the winter.
[0:11:29 – 0:11:36] Erik: But you would have to think just for general physiology, vital organs probably can’t stray too far.
[0:11:36 – 0:11:40] Erik: They can’t be like, well, we can operate at 70 and also at 35.
[0:11:41 – 0:11:47] Adam: All those fish parts, they’re good at 40 or they’re good at 20 or they’re good at 70.
[0:11:47 – 0:11:49] Adam: It doesn’t matter to the fish parts.
[0:11:49 – 0:11:51] Adam: Plus or minus 20 degrees.
[0:11:51 – 0:11:55] Adam: They have a wide range of temperature fluctuations and emotions.
[0:11:57 – 0:11:58] Erik: And emotions.
[0:11:58 – 0:11:58] Erik: Wow.
[0:11:58 – 0:11:59] Adam: Fish have feelings.
[0:12:00 – 0:12:02] Erik: Yeah, fish are friends too.
[0:12:02 – 0:12:14] Adam: All I’m saying is that my hand that I was handling the fish with, because when you’re scumming the nets, you got your hand on the fish, and then the other hand’s working the net to free the fish.
[0:12:14 – 0:12:15] Adam: Free the creature.
[0:12:16 – 0:12:16] Erik: Free the beast.
[0:12:16 – 0:12:17] Erik: Yeah.
[0:12:17 – 0:12:25] Adam: And so the one that my right hand, that is the fish hand, that was, I would just say it was like really cold by the time we got out of there.
[0:12:25 – 0:12:27] Adam: Then, of course, the motor died.
[0:12:27 – 0:12:27] Adam: Of course.
[0:12:28 – 0:12:29] Adam: And so we’re like rowing in.
[0:12:30 – 0:12:30] Adam: You’d row it in?
[0:12:31 – 0:12:33] Erik: Vicious northwest wind.
[0:12:34 – 0:12:38] Adam: So by the time we got back in shore, I mean, my hand was pretty cold.
[0:12:38 – 0:12:41] Adam: And that was really the first time in two weeks of netting that that has happened.
[0:12:42 – 0:12:43] Adam: So noted, duly noted.
[0:12:43 – 0:12:48] Adam: But the scummers gloves I picked up in town, pretty nice and really a game changer, I would say.
[0:12:48 – 0:12:49] Adam: So we’re going to talk more on that.
[0:12:50 – 0:13:09] Adam: and of course uh we might get to a little boot chat at the end light boot action hiking boot chat that we had going on that i’ve been wanting to talk about so it seems like it greatly uh benefits you to learn more it’s a question specifically related to what kind of boots adam wants
[0:13:09 – 0:13:13] Adam: Yeah, we’re talking about what kind of boots should I buy, basically.
[0:13:13 – 0:13:15] Erik: Yeah, this podcast is just us now.
[0:13:15 – 0:13:25] Erik: We’ve built a nice little community, and then we just ask general questions on future purchases and general life choices that we should make going forward.
[0:13:25 – 0:13:26] Erik: Yeah.
[0:13:27 – 0:13:30] Adam: Next week on the show, what should I name my son?
[0:13:31 – 0:13:32] Adam: Anybody have any ideas?
[0:13:32 – 0:13:33] Erik: No.
[0:13:33 – 0:13:34] Erik: Sonny McSunface.
[0:13:34 – 0:13:37] Adam: We’re going to have a vote of the internet.
[0:13:37 – 0:13:37] Adam: Yeah.
[0:13:38 – 0:13:42] Adam: And I haven’t told Natalie yet, but we’re going to name him whatever you guys pick.
[0:13:42 – 0:14:03] Erik: scums mckenzie yeah we’re gonna put it to a vote i mean crazy it’s the world we live in you don’t get you don’t just get to name things anymore you always have to put it to a vote especially you know you talk to any social media manager more engagement and that’s what we need we need to get people engaged
[0:14:04 – 0:14:07] Adam: What about the James Webb telescope?
[0:14:07 – 0:14:08] Adam: Do you know about this thing, Eric?
[0:14:08 – 0:14:09] Erik: I am aware.
[0:14:09 – 0:14:24] Erik: I haven’t done any full-blown recent research on it, but I know it’s going to change the way we look at space in terms of how far back into time it can look.
[0:14:25 – 0:14:26] Adam: Because time is space.
[0:14:27 – 0:14:27] Adam: Yeah.
[0:14:27 – 0:14:28] Adam: Space is time.
[0:14:29 – 0:14:29] Erik: Correct?
[0:14:29 – 0:14:30] Adam: Correct.
[0:14:31 – 0:14:32] Erik: Yeah, sure.
[0:14:33 – 0:14:34] Erik: The first one seems more real to me.
[0:14:35 – 0:14:36] Erik: I don’t know about the latter.
[0:14:36 – 0:14:39] Adam: I think if the first one’s true, then the latter is also true.
[0:14:39 – 0:14:40] Adam: It’s the same thing.
[0:14:41 – 0:14:42] Adam: I just said it in reverse.
[0:14:43 – 0:14:47] Erik: Yeah, but I think that the first sentence sounds more true to me.
[0:14:47 – 0:14:48] Adam: I see.
[0:14:48 – 0:14:50] Erik: And you could say them in a reverse order.
[0:14:50 – 0:14:53] Erik: I probably wouldn’t remember, and I would say agree.
[0:14:53 – 0:14:54] Erik: That sounds better.
[0:14:54 – 0:14:54] Erik: I agree.
[0:14:54 – 0:14:55] Erik: That also sounds good.
[0:14:55 – 0:15:00] Adam: Tonight’s beer sponsorship of the week.
[0:15:00 – 0:15:02] Adam: Oh, I think we haven’t said either.
[0:15:02 – 0:15:04] Adam: This is episode 0170.
[0:15:04 – 0:15:07] Erik: We’re into the 70s, man.
[0:15:07 – 0:15:08] Erik: My favorite decade.
[0:15:10 – 0:15:11] Erik: I never got to live in.
[0:15:13 – 0:15:14] Adam: We can go through time and space to get there.
[0:15:15 – 0:15:17] Adam: This is a… Oh, wow.
[0:15:17 – 0:15:18] Adam: It’s from Sheboygan.
[0:15:18 – 0:15:19] Adam: I didn’t see this.
[0:15:20 – 0:15:21] Adam: This is really cold.
[0:15:22 – 0:15:22] Adam: Yeah.
[0:15:22 – 0:15:25] Adam: Go ahead and say there’s a 10% chance this is too cold.
[0:15:25 – 0:15:26] Erik: Going to freeze upon cracking.
[0:15:26 – 0:15:30] Adam: This is from the Three Sheeps Brewing Company out of Sheboygan, Wisconsin.
[0:15:30 – 0:15:31] Adam: That’s how you say it.
[0:15:32 – 0:15:34] Adam: And home of Bratfest.
[0:15:34 – 0:15:36] Adam: Anybody out there listening has been to Bratfest.
[0:15:36 – 0:15:38] Adam: Probably have mentioned that on the show.
[0:15:38 – 0:15:43] Adam: Tonight we have a Waterslides India Pale Ale from Three Sheeps.
[0:15:44 – 0:15:47] Adam: Donated to the show by good friends of the show.
[0:15:49 – 0:15:50] Adam: Josh and Carly.
[0:15:50 – 0:15:52] Adam: Are we allowed to say their first names?
[0:15:52 – 0:15:53] Adam: I cannot remember.
[0:15:53 – 0:15:54] Adam: Are we supposed to use usernames?
[0:15:55 – 0:15:58] Erik: I think it’s whatever name comes with the donation.
[0:15:58 – 0:16:00] Erik: These ones come with those names.
[0:16:00 – 0:16:00] Erik: Thanks, guys.
[0:16:00 – 0:16:04] Adam: I think Josh is technically an executive producer on the show still.
[0:16:04 – 0:16:07] Adam: If I remember correctly, the documents we signed…
[0:16:09 – 0:16:09] Adam: Back in the day.
[0:16:09 – 0:16:11] Erik: Yeah, I don’t know about that.
[0:16:11 – 0:16:13] Adam: They’re more of a verbal document.
[0:16:13 – 0:16:15] Erik: Yeah, he’s definitely one of the show’s models, though.
[0:16:15 – 0:16:16] Adam: He is, yeah.
[0:16:16 – 0:16:19] Adam: Now currently the third most upvoted post on the subreddit.
[0:16:21 – 0:16:22] Adam: Maybe fourth.
[0:16:23 – 0:16:24] Adam: Get that photo more upvoted.
[0:16:25 – 0:16:30] Adam: The Whitefish post is rapidly climbing, but it shall never top the family bug net.
[0:16:31 – 0:16:32] Erik: Apparently not.
[0:16:32 – 0:16:36] Adam: That one’s going to be always the top post on the subreddit, and it always should be.
[0:16:36 – 0:16:45] Erik: Yeah, you had to talk me out of downvoting the bug net post to boost your… That’s abuse of mod powers.
[0:16:45 – 0:16:46] Adam: That’s not an abuse.
[0:16:46 – 0:16:50] Erik: I get one upvote or downvote, and I have not employed it yet.
[0:16:50 – 0:16:51] Erik: I could bring you one vote closer.
[0:16:51 – 0:16:53] Erik: You haven’t voted on that one?
[0:16:53 – 0:16:54] Erik: No.
[0:16:54 – 0:17:01] Erik: I’m not just constantly going through upvoting everything, but sometimes I do that because I feel bad about being a mod, and I’m just like, everybody gets an upvote.
[0:17:02 – 0:17:05] Adam: Yeah, if you’re here and you’re commenting, you deserve an upvote.
[0:17:06 – 0:17:07] Erik: Basically.
[0:17:08 – 0:17:10] Erik: Unless it’s a terrible comment.
[0:17:10 – 0:17:12] Adam: Well, yeah, if you’re being rude or something.
[0:17:12 – 0:17:13] Erik: And then I just won’t.
[0:17:13 – 0:17:15] Erik: I probably just won’t even do anything.
[0:17:16 – 0:17:20] Adam: Yeah, then the best way to handle those kinds of comments is not to downvote them, but to ignore them.
[0:17:21 – 0:17:24] Erik: Downvote it into oblivion so that the comment just disappears.
[0:17:24 – 0:17:27] Erik: Those are the ones I actively want to read even harder.
[0:17:27 – 0:17:31] Adam: No, that kind of comment is just seeking a downvote.
[0:17:31 – 0:17:33] Adam: Don’t want to give them the attention they want and crave.
[0:17:34 – 0:17:41] Adam: I’m going to give this water slides a… What are we going to give it?
[0:17:42 – 0:17:43] Erik: I mean, this is your decision.
[0:17:43 – 0:17:45] Erik: We don’t have to decide on anything together.
[0:17:46 – 0:17:47] Erik: It’s your tongue, baby.
[0:17:47 – 0:17:48] Erik: Your life.
[0:17:48 – 0:17:49] Adam: Okay.
[0:17:49 – 0:17:58] Adam: I’m going to give it a 12 out of 10.
[0:18:01 – 0:18:03] Erik: I don’t know what the right term is.
[0:18:04 – 0:18:05] Erik: I’m at a loss right now, which is strange.
[0:18:06 – 0:18:07] Erik: This is very strange.
[0:18:07 – 0:18:08] Erik: Maybe you should drink some more.
[0:18:09 – 0:18:11] Adam: Yeah, I have to think more on before I can.
[0:18:11 – 0:18:15] Adam: I’m going to withdraw the original.
[0:18:15 – 0:18:17] Erik: Yeah, you gave it numbers before you had a scale.
[0:18:17 – 0:18:19] Erik: I’m going to give it three sha out of four boygins.
[0:18:20 – 0:18:22] Erik: Thank you, Josh and Carly.
[0:18:23 – 0:18:44] Adam: pretty good okay and now you’ve solved the riddle for me i’m gonna give it 13 brats out of 10 fests thank you all right saving me from wow in your moments of getting to think it got another point 13 out of 10 actually it did gain a point every sip adds a point well when the scale became brats then i was like well i might want one extra on there
[0:18:47 – 0:18:47] Erik: Makes sense.
[0:18:47 – 0:18:49] Erik: I mean, who am I to argue?
[0:18:50 – 0:18:51] Erik: It’s pretty good.
[0:18:51 – 0:18:51] Erik: It’s not frozen.
[0:18:51 – 0:18:52] Erik: It’s not too cold.
[0:18:52 – 0:18:54] Adam: Yeah, I’m surprised it’s not frozen, to be honest.
[0:18:54 – 0:18:55] Adam: It’s pretty cold.
[0:18:55 – 0:18:55] Erik: It’s pretty cold.
[0:18:55 – 0:19:05] Erik: I’m not getting much from actual Columbus, Zethos, or Cascade hops, but it tastes like an IPA.
[0:19:07 – 0:19:14] Erik: It is an ode to a choice we made years ago to throw caution to the wind and pursue a passion.
[0:19:15 – 0:19:17] Erik: For us, it was opening this brewery.
[0:19:18 – 0:19:21] Erik: But maybe for you, it’s finishing that novel.
[0:19:22 – 0:19:24] Erik: Or getting on that stage.
[0:19:24 – 0:19:28] Erik: Or finally asking that co-worker out on a real date.
[0:19:29 – 0:19:34] Erik: Whatever it is, water slides is for risk takers like you.
[0:19:35 – 0:19:44] Erik: It’s complex and yet accessible with more body than your typical IPA and more hops than your typical Wisconsin beer.
[0:19:45 – 0:19:52] Erik: It’s balanced, drinkable, and a reminder to always hashtag choose the water slide.
[0:19:54 – 0:20:01] Erik: Well, I mean, some light shots fired at personal life choices and just general beers of Wisconsin.
[0:20:02 – 0:20:02] Erik: But I like it.
[0:20:03 – 0:20:03] Erik: I like the…
[0:20:05 – 0:20:07] Erik: The aggressiveness of that paragraph.
[0:20:08 – 0:20:09] Adam: Yeah.
[0:20:09 – 0:20:13] Adam: Sheboygan always had kind of a better maul than Manitowoc.
[0:20:13 – 0:20:14] Erik: Oh, a maul ranker.
[0:20:14 – 0:20:16] Adam: When I was growing up.
[0:20:16 – 0:20:19] Adam: That was the first time I played a real disc golf course.
[0:20:20 – 0:20:22] Adam: Sheboygan had a disc golf course before Manitowoc.
[0:20:22 – 0:20:24] Adam: Don’t ever let anybody think otherwise.
[0:20:25 – 0:20:28] Adam: Manitowoc might have a fancy new course at Silver Creek nowadays.
[0:20:29 – 0:20:32] Adam: But back in the day, we were playing Silver Creek just shooting at trees.
[0:20:33 – 0:20:34] Adam: Object golf.
[0:20:35 – 0:20:37] Erik: That’s always disappointing when you see that in the UDisc app.
[0:20:38 – 0:20:39] Erik: Oh, there’s a disc golf course course.
[0:20:40 – 0:20:41] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:20:41 – 0:20:42] Adam: That’s the roots of the game, though.
[0:20:42 – 0:20:43] Adam: That’s how we had to play.
[0:20:43 – 0:20:47] Erik: I’m so used to chains, though, because I hit them so often.
[0:20:47 – 0:20:51] Adam: Didn’t feel the need to invest in a course when the game was still coming up.
[0:20:52 – 0:20:53] Adam: And Sheboygan did.
[0:20:53 – 0:20:57] Adam: So Sheboygan gets the nod on that category and on this beer.
[0:20:58 – 0:20:59] Erik: It gets our nod.
[0:20:59 – 0:21:01] Erik: When’s the last beer that hasn’t gotten a nod from us?
[0:21:01 – 0:21:04] Erik: Yeah.
[0:21:04 – 0:21:05] Adam: Well, you know.
[0:21:06 – 0:21:07] Adam: Disproving nod.
[0:21:07 – 0:21:09] Adam: Yeah, well, I don’t know.
[0:21:09 – 0:21:10] Adam: I don’t know the answer to that one.
[0:21:10 – 0:21:13] Adam: People, you know, generally send us nice beers, though.
[0:21:13 – 0:21:14] Erik: Yeah, this is true.
[0:21:14 – 0:21:17] Erik: Although you did open up the cabinet and there was a couple in there that I was just like, hmm.
[0:21:18 – 0:21:20] Adam: Where did that one come from?
[0:21:20 – 0:21:21] Erik: Where did that one show up?
[0:21:22 – 0:21:22] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:21:23 – 0:21:23] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:21:23 – 0:21:24] Adam: We’re going to have to hide that one.
[0:21:25 – 0:21:26] Adam: Save it from the cold.
[0:21:26 – 0:21:26] Adam: Yeah.
[0:21:26 – 0:21:29] Adam: Bring it into the crawl space maybe for next year.
[0:21:30 – 0:21:31] Adam: Save it for July.
[0:21:32 – 0:21:33] Erik: Yeah.
[0:21:33 – 0:21:38] Adam: What other scum updates do you have for us?
[0:21:38 – 0:21:39] Adam: Okay.
[0:21:39 – 0:21:42] Adam: So number one thing I want to bring up on whitefish netting.
[0:21:42 – 0:21:45] Adam: So we’re on, this is Saturday.
[0:21:45 – 0:21:46] Adam: Today?
[0:21:46 – 0:21:46] Erik: Today.
[0:21:47 – 0:21:48] Adam: Today is a Saturday.
[0:21:48 – 0:21:51] Adam: This is our two-week anniversary of the net being in.
[0:21:52 – 0:21:53] Adam: Net is still in.
[0:21:53 – 0:21:55] Adam: It’s generally in the same spot it’s been the whole time.
[0:21:55 – 0:21:57] Adam: We basically threw it out there.
[0:21:57 – 0:21:58] Adam: It’s been working great.
[0:21:59 – 0:22:03] Adam: I haven’t really had to move it other than occasionally every couple days or so.
[0:22:04 – 0:22:05] Adam: You want to stretch it back out.
[0:22:05 – 0:22:06] Erik: Pull it more taut.
[0:22:07 – 0:22:16] Adam: Yeah, the effects of the massive amounts of fish we’ve been catching, probably, number one, and then the current, number two, and then maybe the wave action.
[0:22:17 – 0:22:28] Adam: They’re moving the net around a little bit, so then you get in there and it’s like… And I would say the way you pull it, you kind of get the net in your hand by the buoy and then you pull the boat along.
[0:22:29 – 0:22:34] Adam: So even that, on a windy day, I’m sure is pulling the anchors on both sides just a little bit.
[0:22:35 – 0:23:00] Adam: yeah i would say though it doesn’t really seem to affect like the amount of fish you catch because i felt like you know the other day like the net seemed to be like pretty like loose it’s like bowed out but it had a ton of fish in it so i don’t know they get stuck in there just as good when it’s you know a big crescent shape or if it’s just like straight across the the drop off there
[0:23:00 – 0:23:01] Erik: Pounds.
[0:23:01 – 0:23:04] Erik: What’s your pounds per day calculation at this point?
[0:23:04 – 0:23:06] Erik: You guys should have had a scale.
[0:23:06 – 0:23:10] Adam: Yeah, we should have been weighing the big bucket every night.
[0:23:10 – 0:23:10] Erik: Yeah.
[0:23:11 – 0:23:11] Adam: Fish bucket.
[0:23:12 – 0:23:14] Adam: How many pounds of fish are in the bucket tonight?
[0:23:15 – 0:23:31] Adam: uh yeah our top one so far is now 11 fish in one day 11 keepers and that was in less than 24 hours is that right because like yeah we got to check them every day but due to work schedules or whatever so it was like oh what was it so it was wednesday do i have this right
[0:23:32 – 0:23:33] Erik: You tell me.
[0:23:33 – 0:23:34] Adam: Yeah, it was Wednesday night.
[0:23:35 – 0:23:44] Adam: We checked it like in, you know, three ish or whatever, you know, so gave us an hour or so of good daylight at the end of the day and checked it.
[0:23:44 – 0:23:46] Erik: Or was that the one the day I was there?
[0:23:47 – 0:24:07] Adam: no we had like five that day though yeah so i’m just saying this was like wednesday we’re whatever saturday now wednesday at like in the afternoon we had eight which is a pretty good day i mean that at that point was the best day by far we’re like this is amazing there’s a lot of jagundos in there very few squeezers
[0:24:07 – 0:24:30] Adam: no um we’ll get to that in a moment and then we reset it but then i had to work like early or i had to work late the next day on thursday so i was like we gotta check it in the morning so we came back on you know maybe a 12 hour check or whatever or a soak or whatever you want to call that and we went out and there was 11 of them and it was like every two feet in the net there was a fish
[0:24:31 – 0:24:33] Erik: So that’s like almost 20 in like 12 hours.
[0:24:33 – 0:24:36] Adam: Almost 20 of them in under 24 hours, really.
[0:24:36 – 0:24:38] Adam: I mean, that’s the legal way to check them.
[0:24:38 – 0:24:40] Adam: But, you know, when you put it that way, it sounds insane.
[0:24:41 – 0:24:42] Adam: It’s a lot of whitefish in the net.
[0:24:43 – 0:24:46] Adam: And almost, like I said, you know, almost zero squeezers.
[0:24:46 – 0:24:47] Adam: They’re all big ones now.
[0:24:49 – 0:24:51] Adam: So that was insane.
[0:24:51 – 0:24:56] Adam: And then we went back, you know, today and there’s another five in there.
[0:24:56 – 0:24:59] Adam: I mean, it’s just wild.
[0:24:59 – 0:25:00] Adam: We had two pike in there today.
[0:25:00 – 0:25:02] Erik: What’s the total count at this point?
[0:25:02 – 0:25:12] Adam: So now that puts us to, yeah, because we’re at 47 going into today all of a sudden for two weeks of catching, you know, 47 fish going into today.
[0:25:12 – 0:25:13] Adam: So we just need three to get to 50.
[0:25:13 – 0:25:16] Adam: And I was like going to try and maybe convince Josh to pull the net.
[0:25:17 – 0:25:18] Erik: Stop at three, release the other two.
[0:25:20 – 0:25:23] Adam: So yeah, we got out there and we got, you know, six more today.
[0:25:25 – 0:25:26] Adam: Dang.
[0:25:26 – 0:25:26] Adam: 53.
[0:25:26 – 0:25:26] Adam: 53.
[0:25:26 – 0:25:28] Adam: Plus there’s two more pike in the net today.
[0:25:28 – 0:25:29] Adam: That’s crazy.
[0:25:29 – 0:25:31] Adam: Which is the first pike we’ve had since day two.
[0:25:32 – 0:25:34] Adam: We went the whole time with no pike again.
[0:25:34 – 0:25:34] Adam: It was like, oh.
[0:25:35 – 0:25:36] Adam: And the one was kind of tiny.
[0:25:37 – 0:25:40] Adam: And then the other one was another really nice pike right at the end.
[0:25:40 – 0:25:42] Adam: And it was right next to a whitefish in the net.
[0:25:43 – 0:25:47] Adam: So like Josh is working on getting this pike out of the net and I’m getting this whitefish out.
[0:25:49 – 0:25:52] Adam: So, yeah, we’re up to 53 keepers, you know.
[0:25:52 – 0:25:59] Adam: It was a couple days ago we came in with four of them, you know, and it was like it takes about a half hour to go out and check the net.
[0:25:59 – 0:26:00] Adam: Yeah.
[0:26:00 – 0:26:03] Adam: And come back and it’s like we got four nice keepers in there.
[0:26:04 – 0:26:09] Adam: It was just like, well, four after like a day of getting eight and 11, you know, like, oh, four doesn’t feel like that great.
[0:26:10 – 0:26:10] Adam: Yeah.
[0:26:10 – 0:26:16] Adam: But then if you think about it, if you were out ice fishing all afternoon or even the whole day and you came home with four keepers,
[0:26:17 – 0:26:37] Adam: that would feel pretty good yeah you know we went out there for like a half hour got four keepers and it’s like pretty decent you know but i think we got as much meat as we can have apparently not well yeah i can’t convince josh to pull the nets you know i’m fully netted and josh is just in a complete obsessive state it can’t stop it won’t stop
[0:26:38 – 0:26:39] Erik: Yeah, can’t stop.
[0:26:39 – 0:26:40] Erik: Why stop?
[0:26:40 – 0:26:43] Erik: I mean, it’s a $10 roughly permit.
[0:26:43 – 0:26:45] Adam: The permit’s been paid for, for sure.
[0:26:46 – 0:26:52] Adam: I got a ton in the pickling vat, you know, like fried up like five or six more fish.
[0:26:52 – 0:26:59] Erik: Will any of your pickled fish be ready maybe in the next couple of weeks so we could do maybe a little on-mic sampling to finish up the…
[0:27:00 – 0:27:02] Adam: Yeah, it should be ready like on Thanksgiving.
[0:27:02 – 0:27:03] Erik: Oh, nice.
[0:27:03 – 0:27:11] Adam: I put them in the jars on Thursday, so then it was like a week in the jar in the fridge with the pickling brine, and they should be good to go.
[0:27:11 – 0:27:14] Adam: And the meat was pretty firm and looked good.
[0:27:14 – 0:27:20] Adam: The other times I’ve tried to pickle fish, the meat has gotten like a little mushy, which is off-putting.
[0:27:22 – 0:27:28] Adam: So this new recipe I tried, I did like a salt brine at the beginning, and that seems to have done the trick.
[0:27:28 – 0:27:30] Erik: Dry them out a little bit before you brine them?
[0:27:30 – 0:27:31] Adam: Yeah, and just firms them up good.
[0:27:31 – 0:27:33] Adam: And then you pickle them for real.
[0:27:34 – 0:27:36] Adam: And then I used a bunch of onions from the garden.
[0:27:37 – 0:27:38] Adam: Nice.
[0:27:38 – 0:27:38] Adam: So those look really good.
[0:27:39 – 0:27:41] Erik: Any grape leaves in there to keep them snappy?
[0:27:42 – 0:27:43] Adam: No.
[0:27:43 – 0:27:44] Adam: Should have, though.
[0:27:44 – 0:27:45] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:27:45 – 0:27:45] Adam: I feel like that’s…
[0:27:46 – 0:27:47] Adam: I thought about putting a bay leaf in.
[0:27:47 – 0:27:55] Erik: I think that the grape leaf thing is probably only applicable to like pickling vegetables, specifically cucumbers.
[0:27:56 – 0:27:59] Erik: Because that’s what keeps the pickles, it keeps the snap in them.
[0:27:59 – 0:28:02] Erik: Otherwise, they just get a little mushy.
[0:28:03 – 0:28:08] Adam: I read one recipe that suggested putting like chopped up celery bits.
[0:28:09 – 0:28:09] Erik: Sure.
[0:28:09 – 0:28:14] Adam: I had some celery from the garden, but by the time I got to it, it wasn’t good enough to use, I felt, so.
[0:28:16 – 0:28:16] Adam: No dice.
[0:28:17 – 0:28:20] Erik: Well sometimes that’s just a decision you’ve got to make on your own.
[0:28:21 – 0:28:25] Adam: So, yeah, no, you know, Josh is, I cannot go tomorrow.
[0:28:25 – 0:28:33] Adam: I was like, I showed up, he didn’t have the boat trailer, and the boat’s just kind of stashed in the woods, and the net’s still out there.
[0:28:33 – 0:28:36] Adam: Now he’s going to go back tomorrow, I guess, and get it.
[0:28:36 – 0:28:37] Adam: So he just can’t stop.
[0:28:38 – 0:28:40] Adam: We have literally like 40 fish in the smoker.
[0:28:41 – 0:28:49] Adam: The idea that there’s no limit to the amount of fish you can keep seems insane, but, I mean, it’s a big lake, but I don’t see that there’s a ton of netters out there
[0:28:50 – 0:28:58] Erik: No, we saw one other net that one day I went out with you, which was maybe a little close.
[0:28:58 – 0:29:02] Adam: This is really the only time of year where you’re going to catch the whitefish, though.
[0:29:02 – 0:29:04] Adam: And they are a native species, I’ll say that.
[0:29:05 – 0:29:06] Adam: The Corriganus.
[0:29:07 – 0:29:08] Adam: We have to get into the Latin on that stuff.
[0:29:08 – 0:29:10] Adam: Is it just Corriganus?
[0:29:10 – 0:29:12] Adam: No, that’s the… Let me pull it up.
[0:29:12 – 0:29:13] Erik: Corriganus.
[0:29:13 – 0:29:14] Erik: Corriganus.
[0:29:14 – 0:29:17] Adam: So it’s the whitefish and the cisco.
[0:29:19 – 0:29:21] Adam: And they’re kind of the same deal.
[0:29:21 – 0:29:23] Adam: The Corriganus is the genus.
[0:29:24 – 0:29:26] Adam: Species is the Clupia formis.
[0:29:26 – 0:29:27] Adam: Ah, Clupia.
[0:29:27 – 0:29:29] Adam: Corriganus, Clupia formis.
[0:29:30 – 0:29:30] Adam: That’s whitefish.
[0:29:31 – 0:29:31] Adam: And then…
[0:29:33 – 0:29:38] Adam: Yeah, they’re like closely related to the cisco, which are, I guess, also herring.
[0:29:39 – 0:29:41] Adam: Oh, the Latin people are coming at me now in the chat.
[0:29:42 – 0:29:42] Adam: They don’t like that.
[0:29:43 – 0:29:43] Adam: Yeah.
[0:29:43 – 0:29:52] Adam: Genus was previously subdivided into two subgenre, Corriganus, true whitefishes, and Aleutia schythus, cisco.
[0:29:53 – 0:29:54] Adam: He nailed it.
[0:29:54 – 0:29:54] Adam: Mm-hmm.
[0:29:56 – 0:30:01] Adam: Uh, yeah, the Corriganus is subterm, subterminal mouth.
[0:30:01 – 0:30:06] Adam: And, uh, the Lucius shyethus is a supra terminal mouth.
[0:30:06 – 0:30:07] Adam: That’s how you can tell them apart.
[0:30:07 – 0:30:10] Adam: And, you know, the Cisco are a little bit smaller usually.
[0:30:11 – 0:30:16] Adam: Anyways, any clean, like, northern deepwater lake is going to have those in them.
[0:30:17 – 0:30:18] Adam: Native species.
[0:30:19 – 0:30:19] Adam: Very cool fish.
[0:30:20 – 0:30:21] Adam: Yeah.
[0:30:22 – 0:30:29] Adam: Yeah, I mean, never really, I mean, anybody listen to the last episode, I thought we were just doing this for one weekend.
[0:30:30 – 0:30:30] Adam: It’s not happening.
[0:30:30 – 0:30:34] Adam: I’ve just been going out every day for two weeks straight, and we’re still catching them.
[0:30:34 – 0:30:37] Adam: We’re catching bigger ones, and my hands are getting colder.
[0:30:37 – 0:30:38] Adam: Yeah.
[0:30:39 – 0:30:40] Adam: And we’re catching more of them every day.
[0:30:40 – 0:30:41] Adam: I mean…
[0:30:42 – 0:30:45] Adam: I think if you had, I mean, honestly, two nets might be too many.
[0:30:45 – 0:30:46] Erik: Probably.
[0:30:46 – 0:30:48] Erik: I mean, who needs that many fish?
[0:30:48 – 0:31:04] Erik: The final scene of like some intense scene where it’s you and Josh at the lake and the lake is just completely roiling and he’s trying to convince you to go out for one last run.
[0:31:05 – 0:31:05] Erik: Yeah.
[0:31:05 – 0:31:07] Adam: When is enough enough?
[0:31:08 – 0:31:08] Adam: Just grabbing him.
[0:31:10 – 0:31:12] Erik: And he just ends up going out on his own.
[0:31:12 – 0:31:15] Erik: And then it turns out to be a perfect storm scenario.
[0:31:15 – 0:31:17] Adam: This is the last cause, Clooney.
[0:31:17 – 0:31:19] Erik: You got to park the tune about.
[0:31:20 – 0:31:21] Adam: We actually did.
[0:31:21 – 0:31:24] Adam: If you recall, there was that one night we got like 10 inches of rain.
[0:31:25 – 0:31:25] Adam: Yeah.
[0:31:25 – 0:31:29] Adam: A gale warning and a small craft advisory watch.
[0:31:29 – 0:31:35] Erik: Yeah, I was the first one at Scummer Camp that day, and the boat was full to the back of the transom with water.
[0:31:36 – 0:31:37] Adam: Oh, it’s crazy.
[0:31:37 – 0:31:37] Adam: We did.
[0:31:37 – 0:31:41] Adam: So there was one day where we deemed it unsafe to check the net.
[0:31:42 – 0:31:46] Adam: So, you know, Minnesota DNR, if you hear this and want to come at us,
[0:31:47 – 0:31:49] Adam: I didn’t feel like it was safe to check the net.
[0:31:49 – 0:31:51] Adam: We’ve been doing our duty.
[0:31:51 – 0:31:51] Adam: Yeah.
[0:31:52 – 0:31:54] Adam: And you are supposed to check the net every day.
[0:31:56 – 0:31:58] Adam: And no, it wasn’t safe to go out there.
[0:31:58 – 0:32:01] Adam: So we did not go out that one day.
[0:32:01 – 0:32:09] Adam: So in two weeks of netting, though, with only one skip day and 53 fish caught, all of them like 17 inches, 16 inches and up.
[0:32:09 – 0:32:09] Adam: Yeah.
[0:32:11 – 0:32:17] Adam: Most of those were like 20 plus ridiculous amounts of meat were just hauled out of that lake.
[0:32:17 – 0:32:18] Adam: And Josh won’t stop.
[0:32:18 – 0:32:19] Adam: He just needs more.
[0:32:20 – 0:32:21] Erik: Yeah, he’s got a problem.
[0:32:22 – 0:32:31] Adam: One of my favorite parts about whitefish netting that I didn’t touch on in the beginning episode on this was these old-timers that show up.
[0:32:31 – 0:32:37] Adam: Somehow they know you’ve approached your boat, and these old-timers will show up in a truck, and they always have one dog with them.
[0:32:38 – 0:32:40] Adam: They’re always like, hey, what you doing there?
[0:32:40 – 0:32:41] Adam: Whitefish netting?
[0:32:41 – 0:32:43] Erik: They always have one dog.
[0:32:43 – 0:32:43] Erik: Yeah.
[0:32:44 – 0:32:44] Adam: Yeah, we sure are.
[0:32:44 – 0:32:48] Adam: And they’re like, wow, that’s a lot of fun.
[0:32:48 – 0:32:49] Adam: It’s a young man’s game.
[0:32:49 – 0:32:51] Adam: No, I can’t go anymore.
[0:32:51 – 0:32:52] Erik: It’s like Christmas every day.
[0:32:52 – 0:32:53] Adam: I’m glad you’re getting out there.
[0:32:53 – 0:32:56] Adam: Yeah, the one guy was like, it’s like Christmas every day checking the nets.
[0:32:56 – 0:33:03] Adam: And I did become, over the time of doing this, I’d get up and be pacing the house.
[0:33:03 – 0:33:06] Adam: I got an hour until I could leave to go check the net to meet Josh.
[0:33:06 – 0:33:11] Adam: You know, it would take on that Christmas element of, like, what’s going to be out there today?
[0:33:12 – 0:33:25] Adam: And even as you’re, like, approaching the main buoy, you really get this, like, even if you’re having a bad day and you get to the landing and you get in the boat and you’re like, I’m just cold and I want to go home, but we’ve got to check these nets and we’re going to get some fish.
[0:33:25 – 0:33:32] Adam: And then as you’re getting close to the buoy, you start to get this, like, tingle, you know, a bit of excitement as you’re getting in there.
[0:33:34 – 0:33:37] Adam: And then sure enough, you get your hands on the net and there’s a bunch of fish in there again.
[0:33:37 – 0:33:38] Adam: And it’s a great time.
[0:33:39 – 0:33:40] Adam: It’s a wonderful way to fish.
[0:33:40 – 0:33:41] Erik: Yeah.
[0:33:41 – 0:33:44] Erik: No, I’ve had my light experiences with it.
[0:33:44 – 0:33:47] Erik: I went out there twice with you guys and…
[0:33:49 – 0:33:55] Erik: Yeah, I got a little – I don’t know if I necessarily got quite as netted as you guys are, but it was a different experience.
[0:33:55 – 0:34:11] Erik: And it just – I mean, I guess one thing that I’m kind of coming around to learning – not learning, but maybe just noticing when it comes to – and this is probably like completely obvious to everybody –
[0:34:11 – 0:34:25] Erik: But like half of the reason to have hobbies like netting or deer hunting or, I mean, anything is just like more than anything else is just the excuse to be outside.
[0:34:26 – 0:34:39] Erik: Which, I mean, for me, it was always, you know, probably thinking of it along the terms of how I learned some of the outdoor skills slash hobbies that I have skills as a stretch.
[0:34:39 – 0:34:46] Erik: But just generally like thinking about like going out and fishing, going out netting, going out and deer hunting.
[0:34:46 – 0:34:58] Erik: Like in my teenage slash adolescent mind, it was always like, well, you’re going out there to get the thing, catch that fish, shoot that deer.
[0:34:59 – 0:35:03] Erik: But sometimes it’s just about being at the SOTY deer camp.
[0:35:03 – 0:35:04] Erik: Right.
[0:35:04 – 0:35:11] Erik: Or sometimes it’s just about like getting into the boat and being like out on a lake in mid-November when nobody else is out there.
[0:35:11 – 0:35:11] Adam: Yeah.
[0:35:12 – 0:35:13] Erik: Like, yeah, the fish.
[0:35:14 – 0:35:15] Adam: It’s a bonus.
[0:35:15 – 0:35:21] Erik: And I’m sure probably everybody has a different opinion on like, especially when it comes to like deer hunting.
[0:35:22 – 0:35:29] Erik: But like even that, I always was like, why would anybody want to go out and just sit in the woods for half a day and maybe get a chance to deer?
[0:35:29 – 0:35:31] Erik: I’m like, well, I think it’s probably more along the lines of
[0:35:32 – 0:35:51] Erik: Escanaba and the moonlight the whole like ritual around it and then just being outside for that long in one place like there’s like an odd meditation to that and that I guess maybe not I can’t say that I necessarily like appreciate it 100% more but I’m just noticing it more.
[0:35:52 – 0:36:03] Erik: It just breaks up like whatever else you’ve got going on in your 21st, 22nd, 21st century, you know, day to day.
[0:36:03 – 0:36:05] Erik: Here’s a bunch of screens.
[0:36:05 – 0:36:19] Erik: Here’s a bunch of the same conversations that you’re having with the same people about the pop culture crap or the things that are making the news and then cut to, you know, moments of silence and noticing the actual surroundings.
[0:36:19 – 0:36:19] Erik: Yeah.
[0:36:20 – 0:36:46] Adam: and then yeah some whitefish a buck or two and uh some bass on topwater bait those are just bonuses yeah just the ritual of going out every day no matter if it’s the morning session or the night session like the afternoon session to go check the nets just having that on my schedule every day for the last two weeks i’ve basically been telling people like because there’s so few amount of daylight right now
[0:36:47 – 0:37:11] Adam: few amount of daylight there’s not a lot of daylight going on right now and it’s basically like yeah get up walk the dog go to work check the net and it’s dark again and have a fire in the wood stove like it’s a pretty nice ritual you get going on this time of year and i mean yeah if you’re not deer hunting especially this is a pretty cool thing to do this time of year i mean i
[0:37:12 – 0:37:20] Adam: I mean, this is the most fish I’ve seen in a two-week span in probably my entire adult life, and it’s going on in November.
[0:37:20 – 0:37:35] Erik: Yeah, well, you definitely… You and myself probably were, you know, I don’t know what you can compare it to, but seemingly running a deficit, unlike just fish seen through actions of your own.
[0:37:36 – 0:37:39] Erik: So to have the opportunity to just be like, here’s five of them all at once…
[0:37:40 – 0:38:08] Erik: like and to still not just like i mean i think on its on its face like netting it just seems like well yeah whatever you just throw a net out and it’s easy peasy and but like i don’t know there’s something about it that’s still like you’re not just going out collecting meat and like going home like something underappreciated about whitefish too where it’s like why yeah like it definitely has given me a much greater appreciation of the corriganus
[0:38:08 – 0:38:12] Erik: Like, I know you, I think like, cause it’s considered a quote unquote rough fish.
[0:38:12 – 0:38:13] Adam: I don’t think it is.
[0:38:13 – 0:38:16] Adam: Honestly, I think it’s just considered abundant, but hard to get.
[0:38:16 – 0:38:16] Adam: Yeah.
[0:38:16 – 0:38:19] Adam: Cause it’s definitely not a good way to fish them open water, you know?
[0:38:19 – 0:38:21] Adam: And then they, they’re in the deeps all year.
[0:38:21 – 0:38:22] Adam: I mean, yeah.
[0:38:22 – 0:38:26] Erik: I mean, it’s more of a, like they’re, they’re like bottom ish feeders, right?
[0:38:26 – 0:38:28] Erik: They’ve kind of got that lower angled mouth.
[0:38:29 – 0:38:33] Adam: They’re like bugs and snails and whatnot.
[0:38:33 – 0:38:35] Adam: People catch them fly fishing, apparently.
[0:38:35 – 0:38:37] Adam: I’ve never done that.
[0:38:37 – 0:38:38] Adam: They’ll feed all over the water column.
[0:38:38 – 0:38:40] Adam: They’re opportunistic.
[0:38:40 – 0:38:41] Adam: Basically, though, they’re bug eaters.
[0:38:41 – 0:38:46] Erik: But they seem evolved to suck stuff up off the lake bottom.
[0:38:46 – 0:38:47] Adam: Yeah, but they’re not like a sucker either.
[0:38:47 – 0:38:48] Adam: No, not quite.
[0:38:48 – 0:38:51] Adam: And they don’t have whiskers, which counts a lot for me.
[0:38:52 – 0:38:59] Adam: Any fish with whiskers, which is weird because I have a mustache, but I don’t like fish with whiskers as much.
[0:39:00 – 0:39:02] Erik: Well, I mean, think about all the fish with whiskers.
[0:39:02 – 0:39:04] Erik: They’re typically kind of like…
[0:39:04 – 0:39:06] Adam: They’re nasty, but whitefish are delicious, though.
[0:39:07 – 0:39:08] Erik: Bullheads and carp and…
[0:39:08 – 0:39:15] Adam: If you can get the pin bone out successfully, I mean, they’re just as good as the walleye, if not better.
[0:39:15 – 0:39:16] Erik: Oh, they’re super…
[0:39:17 – 0:39:18] Adam: My dad’s like, are they super oily?
[0:39:18 – 0:39:21] Adam: I’m like, no, it’s just a good white fish meat.
[0:39:22 – 0:39:22] Adam: Yeah.
[0:39:22 – 0:39:24] Adam: Clean from the northern waters of Minnesota.
[0:39:25 – 0:39:30] Erik: It’s actually like, not that it’s a bad thing, but they’re like relatively like tasteless.
[0:39:31 – 0:39:32] Adam: Yeah, that’s the point.
[0:39:32 – 0:39:37] Erik: But like the flesh is like super like, it’s supple.
[0:39:38 – 0:39:38] Erik: That’s right.
[0:39:39 – 0:39:39] Erik: I just said supple.
[0:39:40 – 0:39:40] Adam: Yeah, it’s supple.
[0:39:40 – 0:39:44] Adam: And like, honestly, yeah, especially if you like clean it up in a little like fish nuggets and just.
[0:39:45 – 0:39:46] Adam: Butter fry them in panko.
[0:39:47 – 0:39:48] Adam: Probably could not.
[0:39:48 – 0:39:50] Adam: I could fool most people into thinking that’s walleye.
[0:39:50 – 0:39:50] Adam: No doubt.
[0:39:51 – 0:39:52] Adam: I guarantee you.
[0:39:52 – 0:39:57] Adam: It’s such a good fish meat, and that’s a weird way to put it, but they’re really, really good.
[0:39:57 – 0:39:58] Adam: I mean, they’re underrated.
[0:40:00 – 0:40:02] Adam: They are considered bony, though, but…
[0:40:03 – 0:40:03] Erik: I think that they are.
[0:40:03 – 0:40:09] Erik: It seemed like when I was watching you do the fillet out, it looked a little bit more involved, but it’s not that crazy.
[0:40:10 – 0:40:19] Erik: I mean, honestly, but sometimes certain size, like even some certain walleye sizes that you get, by the time you’re done filleting them, you’re like, oh, well, where’d all the…
[0:40:20 – 0:40:21] Erik: Where did all the fish flesh go?
[0:40:21 – 0:40:23] Adam: Yeah, these things are chunks, you know.
[0:40:23 – 0:40:26] Adam: I like them because they have these little tiny heads but big eyes.
[0:40:26 – 0:40:27] Adam: They do have little derp heads.
[0:40:27 – 0:40:30] Adam: And they have these huge, like, you know, dump truck bodies.
[0:40:31 – 0:40:34] Adam: Yeah, they’ve got massive, like, gargantuan shoulders.
[0:40:34 – 0:40:40] Adam: Kind of ridiculous looking, but just adds to the whole flavor of them being in the nets.
[0:40:41 – 0:41:02] Adam: huge scales big scales yeah scale as my buddy here scales the third nose tell me all about it big scales the third big yeah well big big scales the the fourth that’s my son yeah that was your grandfather big scales the first yeah big eyes crazy looking fish you know i don’t know they’re they’re a hoot
[0:41:02 – 0:41:05] Adam: But I had a lot of fun just learning how to do it.
[0:41:05 – 0:41:09] Adam: Shout out to Josh for getting me going on it.
[0:41:09 – 0:41:11] Adam: We may or may not still try it under the ice.
[0:41:11 – 0:41:15] Adam: Like I said, we have way more fish than we know what to do now.
[0:41:15 – 0:41:16] Adam: So what’s the point?
[0:41:16 – 0:41:20] Adam: But kind of the point is like I just want to learn how to set a net under the ice.
[0:41:21 – 0:41:23] Adam: I’m a little netted still, so I want to know.
[0:41:23 – 0:41:26] Erik: It would be fun just to try if we get some good conditions for it.
[0:41:26 – 0:41:30] Adam: Yeah, but I thought we were putting this net out for a day or two, and now it’s been two weeks.
[0:41:30 – 0:41:30] Adam: Yeah.
[0:41:31 – 0:41:43] Erik: Well, we’ve hypothesized some fun ways of getting a net set up under the ice, and that is more than anything else, like half of the fun is just like concocting ways of deploying a net under –
[0:41:43 – 0:41:44] Erik: Relatively thin ice.
[0:41:44 – 0:41:45] Adam: We’ve got some conduit.
[0:41:45 – 0:41:48] Adam: We’ve got some buoys with jingle bells rigged up in here.
[0:41:48 – 0:41:49] Adam: Two-liter jugs.
[0:41:49 – 0:41:54] Erik: Anybody have any spare jingle bells, like small enough that they could fit in the top of a two-liter jug?
[0:41:55 – 0:41:56] Erik: Send us those.
[0:41:56 – 0:41:59] Erik: TumbleHomeCast at gmail.com.
[0:41:59 – 0:42:01] Erik: Grand Marais, Minnesota, 55604.
[0:42:01 – 0:42:04] Adam: Or just drop them off at the co-op.
[0:42:05 – 0:42:10] Erik: Yeah, or just literally set them on the steps of the co-op.
[0:42:10 – 0:42:13] Erik: With a little note that says, for the netters.
[0:42:13 – 0:42:14] Erik: Or no note.
[0:42:14 – 0:42:15] Erik: We’ll know exactly what they’re for.
[0:42:16 – 0:42:19] Adam: Somebody left these jingle bells on the front step last night.
[0:42:19 – 0:42:20] Adam: Does anybody know what’s going on?
[0:42:20 – 0:42:22] Adam: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I need those.
[0:42:23 – 0:42:24] Adam: It’s for a recipe I’m trying.
[0:42:24 – 0:42:30] Erik: Somebody left four or five tiny jingle bells in this two liter of Dr.
[0:42:30 – 0:42:32] Erik: Lightning on the stairs of the co-op.
[0:42:33 – 0:42:34] Erik: Are we being threatened?
[0:42:35 – 0:42:35] Erik: Oh, no, no.
[0:42:35 – 0:42:37] Erik: Yeah, those are just for setting up scum.
[0:42:37 – 0:42:38] Adam: No, that’s fellow scummers.
[0:42:40 – 0:42:40] Erik: It’s fine.
[0:42:40 – 0:42:42] Erik: That’s an act of friendship.
[0:42:42 – 0:42:43] Erik: Yeah, we’re not being threatened.
[0:42:43 – 0:42:48] Adam: Yeah, if you ever find old jingle bells on your step, that’s just a friendship act from an old scummer.
[0:42:50 – 0:42:51] Adam: Next up on the show.
[0:42:51 – 0:42:52] Adam: Old scummer.
[0:42:52 – 0:42:52] Adam: Next up on the show.
[0:42:52 – 0:42:56] Adam: That, I think, does conclude Whitefish Camp 2021.
[0:42:56 – 0:42:56] Erik: Sure.
[0:42:56 – 0:42:57] Adam: The net is still in, though.
[0:42:58 – 0:43:01] Adam: So I’m not going to say it’s officially the end of Whitefish Camp, but probable.
[0:43:03 – 0:43:04] Adam: Next up on the show.
[0:43:04 – 0:43:09] Erik: Do you think we have time to do boot readings?
[0:43:09 – 0:43:10] Adam: What time is it?
[0:43:10 – 0:43:10] Erik: 45.
[0:43:10 – 0:43:10] Erik: 45.
[0:43:12 – 0:43:13] Adam: Yeah, can we take a quick break?
[0:43:14 – 0:43:16] Adam: We’ve got to get a message from our sponsors.
[0:43:16 – 0:43:18] Adam: Then we can do the boot thing.
[0:43:18 – 0:43:22] Adam: I don’t want to spend too much time, like you said, at the top.
[0:43:22 – 0:43:25] Adam: This is really just a way for me to do some boot research.
[0:43:25 – 0:43:29] Adam: But I thought there were some interesting ideas in there.
[0:43:29 – 0:43:32] Adam: So just touch on that for a little bit and then get out.
[0:43:32 – 0:43:34] Adam: And then it’s time for a glow round.
[0:43:35 – 0:43:36] Erik: A night round.
[0:43:36 – 0:43:39] Erik: Talking about that night round.
[0:43:39 – 0:43:39] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:43:39 – 0:43:39] Adam: Yeah.
[0:43:41 – 0:43:45] Erik: You better have a sponsor lined up, my man, because I have not been doing my work.
[0:43:47 – 0:43:48] Erik: Tumble home.
[0:43:48 – 0:43:49] Adam: Okay, redo it.
[0:43:53 – 0:44:02] Adam: Scummers, a netting podcast is brought to you by Scum Scrapers, found at every quick trip in the land.
[0:44:03 – 0:44:04] Adam: Too much scum?
[0:44:04 – 0:44:05] Adam: Scrape it.
[0:44:05 – 0:44:06] Erik: Not enough scrum?
[0:44:08 – 0:44:08] Adam: Scrape it a little.
[0:44:09 – 0:44:10] Adam: Thank you, and back to the show.
[0:44:10 – 0:44:16] Adam: All right, Scum Scrapers, thank you for the sponsorship of Scummers, my favorite netting podcast.
[0:44:17 – 0:44:17] Erik: You know what?
[0:44:17 – 0:44:18] Erik: Not enough scrum.
[0:44:19 – 0:44:20] Erik: Scum it less.
[0:44:20 – 0:44:21] Adam: Scrape it less.
[0:44:21 – 0:44:22] Adam: Scrape it real good.
[0:44:23 – 0:44:26] Adam: We’re going to get into a second of our water slides.
[0:44:26 – 0:44:27] Adam: Thanks to Josh and Carly.
[0:44:28 – 0:44:29] Erik: Sheboygan.
[0:44:32 – 0:44:34] Erik: Sounds like that could have been one of the catchphrases.
[0:44:34 – 0:44:41] Adam: One time with my buddy, we took bikes all the way from Sheboygan up to Manitowoc just along the Lakeshore Drive.
[0:44:43 – 0:44:44] Erik: Oh, that’s a really good story.
[0:44:44 – 0:44:45] Adam: It was a pretty good one.
[0:44:46 – 0:44:46] Adam: Whistling Straits.
[0:44:47 – 0:44:47] Adam: You ever been there?
[0:44:47 – 0:44:50] Adam: I think they hosted a U.S. Open.
[0:44:51 – 0:44:51] Adam: I’m not mistaken.
[0:44:51 – 0:44:52] Adam: Golf?
[0:44:52 – 0:44:52] Adam: Yeah.
[0:44:53 – 0:44:54] Adam: Ball golf.
[0:44:54 – 0:44:55] Adam: Ball golf.
[0:44:55 – 0:44:55] Adam: Not golf.
[0:44:55 – 0:44:56] Adam: It’s ball golf.
[0:44:56 – 0:44:57] Adam: All right.
[0:44:59 – 0:45:01] Adam: Act three of tonight’s program.
[0:45:01 – 0:45:02] Erik: What were the first two acts?
[0:45:03 – 0:45:03] Adam: Both.
[0:45:03 – 0:45:04] Adam: Scummers and scummers.
[0:45:05 – 0:45:07] Adam: Act three on scummers is hiking boots.
[0:45:08 – 0:45:11] Adam: You’re going to want to have a good boot when you’re in the scummer boat.
[0:45:12 – 0:45:13] Adam: Going after the Yagundo’s.
[0:45:14 – 0:45:15] Adam: And the squeezers.
[0:45:15 – 0:45:17] Erik: Silent J. Yeah.
[0:45:17 – 0:45:18] Erik: Yagundo.
[0:45:19 – 0:45:20] Adam: Whacking stick.
[0:45:20 – 0:45:27] Adam: So yeah, just a quick aside before we actually get off of the whitefish though.
[0:45:27 – 0:45:28] Adam: You must bring the lucky bucket.
[0:45:28 – 0:45:32] Adam: If you don’t have the lucky bucket to throw the fish in, then you don’t get as many.
[0:45:32 – 0:45:34] Erik: A lucky bucket and a
[0:45:34 – 0:45:38] Adam: And so, yeah, the process is you like get them out of the net and you put them on the middle bench of the boat.
[0:45:39 – 0:45:43] Adam: And then one or the other grabs the whacking stick, which is just a stick of birch that we found.
[0:45:45 – 0:45:45] Adam: You club them.
[0:45:45 – 0:45:46] Adam: You know, it’s merciful.
[0:45:47 – 0:45:53] Adam: It’s the most merciful and probably humane kind of wild protein you can get.
[0:45:54 – 0:45:55] Erik: What about when you bench them?
[0:45:56 – 0:45:57] Adam: Sometimes you got to bench them.
[0:45:57 – 0:45:59] Adam: If you can’t find the whacking stick, you got to bench them.
[0:45:59 – 0:46:00] Erik: Turn them upside down.
[0:46:00 – 0:46:01] Adam: It’s not as effective though.
[0:46:01 – 0:46:01] Adam: No.
[0:46:02 – 0:46:03] Adam: It’s not as foolproof.
[0:46:03 – 0:46:05] Adam: You know, the whacking stick is pretty much a hundred percent.
[0:46:06 – 0:46:07] Adam: So you got to have that.
[0:46:08 – 0:46:09] Adam: One more thing before we get out of it.
[0:46:10 – 0:46:10] Adam: Second to side.
[0:46:10 – 0:46:12] Adam: Wait for it though.
[0:46:12 – 0:46:14] Adam: Like the way the boat looks right now is disgusting.
[0:46:14 – 0:46:39] Adam: oh i’m sure it’s full of so many dried on eggs and we did eat some of the eggs josh eats all the eggs a lot like he eats a lot of them but he’s like you got to have a spoonful he brought his own spoon this guy’s eggs just eat spoonfuls of eggs every day and i’m just a tiny little cat so i just took some in my hand like on my finger and like had a little you know you didn’t need a whole like tablespoon of eggs i ate a pretty good like scoop off my hand
[0:46:39 – 0:46:43] Erik: You didn’t Gatorade water bottle squirt some into your mouth out of the orifice?
[0:46:44 – 0:46:45] Adam: No, I didn’t do that.
[0:46:45 – 0:46:46] Adam: I’ve seen videos of this.
[0:46:46 – 0:46:48] Adam: That’s disgusting.
[0:46:48 – 0:46:50] Adam: Anyways.
[0:46:50 – 0:46:54] Erik: You can only find those on www.scummerhub.com.
[0:46:56 – 0:46:58] Adam: Yeah, the comments are just as good as the videos.
[0:46:59 – 0:47:01] Erik: Yeah, I go there for the comments.
[0:47:04 – 0:47:10] Adam: Anyways, if you actually do ever find yourself netting whitefish, go ahead and eat the eggs off the corigana.
[0:47:10 – 0:47:11] Adam: It’s pretty good.
[0:47:11 – 0:47:14] Adam: All right, so here’s the post on the boots, all right?
[0:47:14 – 0:47:18] Adam: So basically what happened, I’ll just read the post, all right?
[0:47:18 – 0:47:19] Adam: I posted this.
[0:47:19 – 0:47:20] Adam: This is me.
[0:47:20 – 0:47:21] Adam: This is me.
[0:47:21 – 0:47:27] Adam: My Asolo hiking boots are being held together by glue and zip ties after eight years of daily use.
[0:47:28 – 0:47:36] Adam: We’ll probably just buy a new set of Asolo, but considering Loa or Salomon as alternatives, what is your favorite hiking boot?
[0:47:38 – 0:47:39] Erik: How many pairs of ASLO have you had?
[0:47:39 – 0:47:41] Erik: I was going to say we can end the podcast right here.
[0:47:42 – 0:47:43] Erik: Just buy another pair of those.
[0:47:43 – 0:47:49] Adam: Well, I mean, that was what I suggested to myself, and we had 20 comments here, 10 upvotes.
[0:47:50 – 0:47:54] Adam: I was basically just going to go buy another pair of ASLO because how many have you had now?
[0:47:54 – 0:47:54] Erik: Four.
[0:47:55 – 0:47:55] Adam: You wear them.
[0:47:56 – 0:47:57] Adam: You were literally wearing them every day.
[0:47:58 – 0:48:00] Adam: And I say daily use, so I was using them a lot.
[0:48:00 – 0:48:07] Erik: Well, mine were daily use at Clearwater, which was like six miles of walking just to run the business.
[0:48:07 – 0:48:12] Adam: A lot of mine were daily use just standing in a kitchen on comfy mats.
[0:48:12 – 0:48:14] Adam: They did last me almost eight years, though.
[0:48:14 – 0:48:43] Adam: and just one pair two trips to the Grand Canyon Canyonlands bunch of Superior Hiking Trail various other woods hikes very good boot I don’t see why you’d actually go away from something usually I’m the kind of guy when something works don’t go away from it why would you go away from something that works and you like here’s my actual suggestion yeah the extra tough shorty just get the low cut extra tough I did a six mile what did I say five six mile hike a light five mile hike is what you said
[0:48:44 – 0:48:44] Erik: Yeah.
[0:48:45 – 0:48:45] Erik: With these.
[0:48:47 – 0:48:47] Adam: Yeah.
[0:48:47 – 0:48:48] Adam: What happened to your tall ones?
[0:48:48 – 0:48:49] Adam: You have the tall ones too.
[0:48:49 – 0:48:50] Adam: I also have the tall ones, but.
[0:48:50 – 0:48:51] Adam: You said those fit pretty good.
[0:48:51 – 0:48:52] Erik: They fit very well.
[0:48:52 – 0:48:53] Adam: All right.
[0:48:53 – 0:48:56] Adam: So a lot of people like those extra tough boots and I like the tall boot.
[0:48:56 – 0:48:58] Adam: I mean, you know me, I’m mostly a muck boot kind of guy.
[0:48:59 – 0:49:02] Erik: I just like the fact that these ones slide on and off so.
[0:49:02 – 0:49:02] Adam: I like that too.
[0:49:03 – 0:49:04] Erik: So sweetly and simply.
[0:49:04 – 0:49:06] Erik: It’s like, I gotta run back into the house.
[0:49:06 – 0:49:11] Erik: Just slide them off instead of like unlacing your entire A solo.
[0:49:11 – 0:49:11] Erik: Yeah.
[0:49:12 – 0:49:20] Adam: Yeah, well, sitting down to lace up the boots is kind of a pain, and those aren’t even really that good if you get in any slush or deep stuff, whereas that rubber boot, I mean, really good.
[0:49:20 – 0:49:21] Erik: Talk about ritual.
[0:49:22 – 0:49:24] Adam: I’m not hiking the Grand Canyon all the time.
[0:49:24 – 0:49:26] Adam: I don’t live in the desert southwest.
[0:49:27 – 0:49:29] Adam: I’m not really hiking all that much.
[0:49:29 – 0:49:30] Adam: Do you need a hiking boot?
[0:49:30 – 0:49:32] Adam: This is what the post became.
[0:49:32 – 0:49:32] Adam: Right.
[0:49:32 – 0:49:33] Adam: You’re going to have to calm down.
[0:49:34 – 0:49:36] Adam: We turned on her late collar.
[0:49:36 – 0:49:37] Adam: And she’s jazzed.
[0:49:37 – 0:49:38] Adam: And she’s all of a sudden out of control.
[0:49:39 – 0:49:41] Adam: I’m going to read Phasmata’s comment.
[0:49:41 – 0:49:42] Adam: I like that one.
[0:49:42 – 0:49:42] Adam: Top upvoted.
[0:49:43 – 0:49:44] Adam: Eight upvotes on Phasmata.
[0:49:44 – 0:49:46] Adam: A lot of boxes of wine going towards this one.
[0:49:47 – 0:49:53] Adam: I’m a minimalist shoe guy whenever possible, having put a bunch of effort into rebuilding my foot and ankle strength.
[0:49:53 – 0:49:56] Adam: For wet footing, Astral Loyax have been my go-to.
[0:49:57 – 0:50:06] Adam: But as my feet have regained a wider, natural shape, and lost the deformation imposed on them from a life in modern footwear, I’m not fitting into them as well anymore.
[0:50:06 – 0:50:09] Adam: They’re probably too far minimal for most people anyway.
[0:50:10 – 0:50:13] Adam: Astral’s TR1 mesh still fit my widened feet nicely enough.
[0:50:15 – 0:50:18] Adam: and are going to replace the Loyaks for tripping in the future.
[0:50:18 – 0:50:24] Adam: I gave them their first thorough testing on my Wine Lake trip earlier this year, and they aced it.
[0:50:24 – 0:50:25] Erik: 100%.
[0:50:25 – 0:50:26] Erik: Wine Lake.
[0:50:27 – 0:50:32] Adam: Honestly, the TR1 mesh is almost the perfect Boundary Waters wet footing shoe.
[0:50:32 – 0:50:34] Adam: For dry footing, I have a pair of dry shot boots.
[0:50:35 – 0:50:37] Adam: They’re just like muck boots, but I found better built.
[0:50:37 – 0:50:39] Adam: They’re actually owned by the guy who founded muck boots.
[0:50:40 – 0:50:40] Adam: So there you go.
[0:50:41 – 0:50:44] Adam: And then I did go and look at this dry shot because it’s,
[0:50:44 – 0:50:49] Adam: Then I realized my muck boots are actually in a worse shape than the… My Acelos are in rough shape.
[0:50:50 – 0:50:51] Adam: My muck boots are also in rough shape.
[0:50:52 – 0:50:55] Erik: Generally, all of your boots seem like they’re in rough shape.
[0:50:55 – 0:50:56] Erik: Yeah, well, I’m hard on my boots.
[0:50:57 – 0:51:01] Adam: But we’re actually going into the season where I want the muck boots more than the hiking boots.
[0:51:02 – 0:51:05] Adam: So actually, I’m in the market for both kinds.
[0:51:06 – 0:51:07] Erik: Yeah, it’s an interesting time.
[0:51:07 – 0:51:10] Erik: I mean, unless you’re looking for straight up like deals, deals, deals.
[0:51:11 – 0:51:15] Erik: Now is not a great time to be getting into hiking boots.
[0:51:15 – 0:51:15] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:51:15 – 0:51:16] Adam: Right.
[0:51:16 – 0:51:17] Adam: Wait till, oh, I don’t know.
[0:51:17 – 0:51:19] Adam: Who knows when you’re going to find out.
[0:51:19 – 0:51:22] Adam: Remember when we first got our ASLOs way back in the day?
[0:51:24 – 0:51:25] Adam: You found some deal and they’re like 50% off.
[0:51:27 – 0:51:51] Adam: i did yeah i don’t remember you got some you sent me the link and then i got some too and it was like these are ridiculous we got them for like 110 bucks well i think those things are like a 275 dollar boot now they are pretty expensive that’s ridiculous they’re kind of maybe overrated when if you take the price point into mind well that’s what i was getting into i don’t know give a shout out somebody else was like into the dry shods astrals of course and uh
[0:51:53 – 0:51:53] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:51:54 – 0:51:55] Adam: Arcteryx.
[0:51:56 – 0:52:00] Adam: We had a lot of people shouting out fancy leather boots and stuff.
[0:52:00 – 0:52:03] Adam: Stu Osthoff?
[0:52:03 – 0:52:06] Erik: Stu Osthoff has entered the chat.
[0:52:06 – 0:52:06] Adam: Yes.
[0:52:10 – 0:52:11] Adam: Anyhow.
[0:52:14 – 0:52:18] Adam: I appreciated, we’re not going to like read every comment on the boot thread or anything.
[0:52:18 – 0:52:20] Adam: I just wanted to like, I did want to like mention it.
[0:52:20 – 0:52:24] Adam: And I appreciated all the comments in there and I did take them to heart.
[0:52:24 – 0:52:30] Adam: And I have like 14 tabs open in my browser right now of different boots I’m still considering.
[0:52:30 – 0:52:34] Adam: But I am intrigued by those dry shots though.
[0:52:34 – 0:52:37] Adam: I want to get a pair because they have some tall ones like I’m talking about.
[0:52:37 – 0:52:40] Adam: But then Eric, they have some of those short ones like your extra toughs there.
[0:52:41 – 0:53:02] Adam: and i would like to compare the pricing on the extra tough shorties versus these dry shod shorties thank you now that we’re going into winter that makes more sense to like stick a little funds into that and then address the hiking boot later but well i mean these extra toughs aren’t really that warm like i definitely got cold toes out scumming the nets like very very quickly it’s
[0:53:03 – 0:53:04] Adam: Easy to get cold while scumming.
[0:53:04 – 0:53:05] Erik: Yeah.
[0:53:06 – 0:53:08] Adam: But I am also in the…
[0:53:08 – 0:53:10] Adam: Staying dry is the most important part, and they always keep you dry.
[0:53:10 – 0:53:11] Adam: They definitely keep you dry.
[0:53:12 – 0:53:12] Adam: Yeah.
[0:53:12 – 0:53:13] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:53:15 – 0:53:24] Erik: I’m actually in the market for just a straight-up winter boot going forward because, like I have said many times…
[0:53:25 – 0:53:26] Adam: Well, that’s why I like these muck boots.
[0:53:26 – 0:53:28] Adam: I’m getting off the muck boots, though.
[0:53:29 – 0:53:31] Adam: They make my feet all clammy.
[0:53:31 – 0:53:32] Erik: They get all wet.
[0:53:32 – 0:53:34] Erik: They take days to dry.
[0:53:34 – 0:53:36] Erik: I want something with a removable liner.
[0:53:37 – 0:53:37] Adam: That’s the sock.
[0:53:38 – 0:53:39] Adam: That’s the liner.
[0:53:40 – 0:53:42] Adam: I need a sock slash liner.
[0:53:44 – 0:53:47] Adam: Next year on the tumble tourney, a good sock.
[0:53:48 – 0:53:49] Adam: The 14 seed.
[0:53:49 – 0:53:50] Adam: One good sock.
[0:53:50 – 0:53:51] Adam: One good sock.
[0:53:52 – 0:53:55] Adam: One shining sock.
[0:53:56 – 0:53:58] Adam: Again, I have to delete that off the show.
[0:53:58 – 0:54:01] Adam: We can’t have that going out on the feed.
[0:54:01 – 0:54:05] Erik: All right, 53.50.
[0:54:05 – 0:54:07] Adam: All right, so we can still toot the horn then.
[0:54:09 – 0:54:10] Erik: Which horn are you talking about?
[0:54:10 – 0:54:11] Adam: The Tumble Home Express.
[0:54:11 – 0:54:12] Adam: Oh, because we’re under an hour.
[0:54:12 – 0:54:13] Adam: All right.
[0:54:15 – 0:54:17] Adam: Thank you for being with us here in the shed.
[0:54:17 – 0:54:22] Adam: Thank you to Josh and Carly for the beer sponsorship from Sheboygan.
[0:54:23 – 0:54:24] Adam: Thank you to all our Patreons.
[0:54:26 – 0:54:31] Adam: And thank you to everybody who did take the time to comment on the boot thread.
[0:54:32 – 0:54:33] Adam: I really enjoyed it.
[0:54:33 – 0:54:36] Adam: Anybody out there listening who hasn’t seen it, go check it out.
[0:54:36 – 0:54:43] Adam: Especially thank you to everybody who’s into whitefish netting and our new podcast, Scummers.
[0:54:44 – 0:54:52] Adam: We have a small rowboat, a large net, and a lot of time on our hands in November, so we’re checking the nets a lot.
[0:54:53 – 0:54:55] Erik: But I think that about sums it up.
[0:54:56 – 0:55:00] Erik: Yeah, it definitely sums up the vast majority.
[0:55:00 – 0:55:06] Erik: Before we get too far removed from the spooky season, I just want to show you this.
[0:55:07 – 0:55:08] Erik: You got something?
[0:55:09 – 0:55:11] Erik: Yeah, it’s just an email I got with a picture.
[0:55:13 – 0:55:16] Erik: from surveyor nine zero nine.
[0:55:17 – 0:55:24] Erik: And this was their Halloween pumpkin that they carved.
[0:55:26 – 0:55:27] Adam: Wow.
[0:55:27 – 0:55:29] Erik: What a wonderful harvest we’ve had.
[0:55:31 – 0:55:38] Erik: A great pumpkin carving of Enoch from our favorite show, Over the Garden Wall.
[0:55:38 – 0:55:43] Adam: It pains me that you do want to wish to stay with us on this great harvest.
[0:55:44 – 0:55:47] Erik: And speaking of the email, tumbleholmcast at gmail.com.
[0:55:47 – 0:55:58] Erik: We’re probably a couple of weeks away yet from it, but it is vastly, quickly, and mightily approaching the end of the year question.
[0:55:59 – 0:56:02] Erik: What kind of animals did you catch in your Skynet?
[0:56:02 – 0:56:04] Erik: How many nets did you deploy?
[0:56:04 – 0:56:05] Erik: At how many different levels?
[0:56:06 – 0:56:08] Erik: And what was your poundage per day?
[0:56:08 – 0:56:13] Adam: Do you keep your nets more in the six feet range or in the more of the one meter range?
[0:56:14 – 0:56:16] Erik: You probably catch a lot of mustaches at that six-foot range.
[0:56:17 – 0:56:18] Adam: Indeed.
[0:56:20 – 0:56:22] Adam: What about the mesh diameters?
[0:56:22 – 0:56:29] Adam: Are you more of a two-and-a-half for the three-inch mesh?
[0:56:29 – 0:56:31] Adam: What do you think?
[0:56:31 – 0:56:35] Adam: All of that and more on next week’s Mesh Talk discussion.
[0:56:36 – 0:56:38] Adam: Get in on our Discord on the meshes.
[0:56:38 – 0:56:39] Adam: Oh, now we’re on Discord?
[0:56:39 – 0:56:41] Erik: We got the meshes going on.
[0:56:42 – 0:56:43] Erik: The Meshie Awards.
[0:56:43 – 0:56:47] Adam: All the dark web Meshies coming out to talk tensile strength.
[0:56:48 – 0:56:49] Adam: Tensile strength?
[0:56:50 – 0:56:50] Adam: And ripping.
[0:56:52 – 0:56:54] Adam: Yeah.
[0:56:54 – 0:56:56] Adam: All you Meshies know what I’m talking about.
[0:56:56 – 0:56:58] Adam: I’m getting a little excited and ahead of myself.
[0:56:59 – 0:57:04] Erik: No, but seriously, tunnelhomecast.gmail.com, the annual third, fourth year in a row now?
[0:57:04 – 0:57:06] Erik: Fourth year in a row now.
[0:57:06 – 0:57:06] Erik: Where’d you go?
[0:57:06 – 0:57:07] Erik: What did you see?
[0:57:07 – 0:57:08] Erik: How was your Boundary Waters?
[0:57:09 – 0:57:10] Erik: How’s she going by?
[0:57:10 – 0:57:12] Erik: How was your Boundary Waters experience this last year?
[0:57:12 – 0:57:24] Erik: That’s usually where we wrap things before the winter season and the doldrums and the map gazing take hold.
[0:57:24 – 0:57:27] Adam: Yeah, in the winter when things get weird on this show.
[0:57:28 – 0:57:29] Erik: Yeah, even weirder.
[0:57:29 – 0:57:33] Erik: Will there be a Madness of Winter Part 3?
[0:57:33 – 0:57:34] Erik: You know there will.
[0:57:35 – 0:57:37] Erik: What did I just listen to?
[0:57:38 – 0:57:41] Erik: We try to put out content where that is the question we want to leave you.
[0:57:42 – 0:57:50] Erik: And with a little over two minutes to spare, we will leave you with this.
[0:57:59 – 0:58:02] Adam: This whistle is the best whistle I’ve ever seen.
[0:58:02 – 0:58:04] Adam: We should have gotten more of these.
[0:58:04 – 0:58:08] Erik: Yeah, it’s the best whistle I’ve ever seen and the worst one I’ve ever heard.
[0:58:08 – 0:58:12] Adam: It sounds like a very sad wind.
[0:58:17 – 0:58:32] Erik: a sick wind that wind has some kind of sounds like water going through a net sounds like an anemic wind happy netting
