256: Pack Rankers I-Humiliate the Terrain

Episode Transcript

[0:00:20 – 0:00:21] UNKNOWN: Thank you.
[0:00:34 – 0:00:39] Adam: Welcome to Tumble Home, a proud independent Boundary Waters podcast.
[0:00:39 – 0:00:40] Adam: My name is Adam.
[0:00:40 – 0:00:44] Adam: Joining me here in the shed tonight is my dear friend, Eric.
[0:00:44 – 0:00:45] Adam: Good evening, Eric.
[0:00:46 – 0:00:46] Adam: Guten Abend.
[0:00:47 – 0:00:47] Adam: Aye.
[0:00:48 – 0:00:49] Adam: What are you holding there?
[0:00:49 – 0:00:51] Adam: He’s got a big old pizza pie.
[0:00:52 – 0:00:55] Erik: Yeah, it very well could be a pizza pie.
[0:00:56 – 0:01:03] Erik: If it was a pizza pie, it’s probably the shrunken version of the pizza from Back to the Future 2 before they rehydrate it.
[0:01:03 – 0:01:05] Adam: Yeah, before they zap it.
[0:01:05 – 0:01:08] Erik: Because it’s been up in the rafters for how long?
[0:01:09 – 0:01:11] Adam: Since end of May, it looks like.
[0:01:11 – 0:01:12] Adam: Two months.
[0:01:12 – 0:01:15] Adam: A couple months up there in the rafters of the shed here.
[0:01:15 – 0:01:18] Adam: We got a gift.
[0:01:18 – 0:01:20] Adam: This is episode 256 of Tumble Home.
[0:01:21 – 0:01:23] Adam: It’s a beautiful night here in the shed.
[0:01:23 – 0:01:27] Adam: We’re joined by Arrow the Husky, and Eric has the large present.
[0:01:28 – 0:01:30] Adam: This is included with tonight’s art supplies.
[0:01:31 – 0:01:36] Adam: It was listed as the bag of art supplies says magic inside.
[0:01:36 – 0:01:43] Adam: And then there’s a large present involved that has been up in the rafters for a couple months.
[0:01:44 – 0:01:45] Adam: And it just says, keep this side up.
[0:01:46 – 0:01:47] Adam: There’s penguin wrapping paper.
[0:01:48 – 0:01:51] Erik: It’s 50-50, half and half penguin, half green polka dots.
[0:01:52 – 0:01:53] Erik: It’s Christmas in July.
[0:01:54 – 0:01:56] Adam: Yeah, it’s a real mystery.
[0:01:56 – 0:02:00] Adam: I’ve been wondering what’s been in here for a long time, and I have not peeked, Eric.
[0:02:01 – 0:02:01] Adam: That’s good.
[0:02:02 – 0:02:09] Adam: These delights were generously donated to Tumble Home by a dear friend of the show, Bob Ross Paddler.
[0:02:09 – 0:02:11] Adam: Thank you for your contributions.
[0:02:11 – 0:02:17] Erik: Were you ever a freak Christmas present peeker growing up as a little boy?
[0:02:18 – 0:02:19] Adam: Oh, I never peeked.
[0:02:19 – 0:02:19] Adam: No, I was a good boy.
[0:02:19 – 0:02:20] Adam: Were you a shaker?
[0:02:20 – 0:02:23] Adam: I was kind of like, you know, just looking.
[0:02:24 – 0:02:26] Adam: Just looking with a real critical eye.
[0:02:26 – 0:02:27] Adam: Critical eye?
[0:02:27 – 0:02:28] Adam: How big is that box?
[0:02:29 – 0:02:31] Erik: Not like the side glance?
[0:02:31 – 0:02:34] Adam: Yeah, no, just sort of like imagining what’s inside is the best part.
[0:02:35 – 0:02:40] Erik: Pretending like you don’t notice that there’s more presents under the tree after you came home from school one day?
[0:02:40 – 0:02:41] Erik: Right, right.
[0:02:41 – 0:02:42] Erik: What’s that?
[0:02:42 – 0:02:43] Adam: What could that be?
[0:02:43 – 0:02:44] Adam: That’s quite large.
[0:02:45 – 0:02:46] Adam: That’s quite large.
[0:02:46 – 0:02:50] Adam: I am intrigued by the extreme size of this box.
[0:02:51 – 0:02:55] Adam: Eric gets to open up the present, and I will open up the magic inside box.
[0:02:55 – 0:02:56] Adam: I’ll do a little shake just to see.
[0:02:56 – 0:02:57] Adam: He’s going to shake it.
[0:02:58 – 0:03:01] Adam: I wonder why it has to be this side up.
[0:03:01 – 0:03:04] Adam: Probably because it’s like a box tray.
[0:03:04 – 0:03:08] Erik: It feels like it’s a box inside a box.
[0:03:08 – 0:03:10] Erik: Not much movement, not getting any noises.
[0:03:10 – 0:03:28] Erik: I got to the point where my parents, because I was a big investigator of gifts, shaker, that they got to a point where they would tape whatever the gift was inside a huge box and then just put a loose marble just to throw me off.
[0:03:28 – 0:03:29] Erik: Yeah.
[0:03:29 – 0:03:29] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:03:29 – 0:03:33] Erik: There was one Christmas where that’s all it was, was just like dummy… Marbles.
[0:03:34 – 0:03:35] Erik: Yeah.
[0:03:35 – 0:03:40] Erik: Just marbles with gifts taped to the insides of boxes that they actually weren’t that size of.
[0:03:41 – 0:03:41] Erik: So, yeah.
[0:03:41 – 0:03:43] Erik: I’m not getting any…
[0:03:43 – 0:03:48] Erik: I’ve got a lot of experience with this, and right now I’m feeling like there’s no tomfoolery, but we’ll see.
[0:03:49 – 0:03:52] Erik: It is just taped on top.
[0:03:53 – 0:03:56] Adam: I think that’s why you can’t flip it over, because the wrapping paper would maybe give way.
[0:03:57 – 0:03:57] Erik: An old…
[0:03:58 – 0:03:59] Adam: Got a huge tomato box.
[0:03:59 – 0:04:00] Erik: Tomato box.
[0:04:01 – 0:04:02] Erik: Oh, my.
[0:04:04 – 0:04:07] Erik: It looks like an actual gift here.
[0:04:07 – 0:04:08] Erik: Oh, my.
[0:04:10 – 0:04:11] Erik: I don’t think this is a joke.
[0:04:13 – 0:04:14] Erik: Is that art?
[0:04:15 – 0:04:18] Erik: It looks like a pretty sick art.
[0:04:18 – 0:04:18] Erik: My God.
[0:04:18 – 0:04:19] Erik: Holy moly.
[0:04:21 – 0:04:41] Erik: wow is that an oil this is uh oil on canvas this is an 18 by 24 oil on canvas holy smokes my lord got the kp index going uh reverberating here in the shed yeah it’s a beautiful northern light scene here
[0:04:42 – 0:04:46] Erik: Yeah, it makes sense from a name like Bob Ross Paddler.
[0:04:47 – 0:04:48] Adam: Wow, it’s a real painting.
[0:04:48 – 0:04:49] Erik: It’s a real painting.
[0:04:49 – 0:04:51] Erik: We might have to pause.
[0:04:51 – 0:04:54] Erik: There might be some real emotions coming out here.
[0:04:54 – 0:04:55] Erik: This is incredible.
[0:04:55 – 0:04:56] Adam: Holy moly.
[0:04:57 – 0:05:09] Erik: It’s like, honestly, some of my favorite artwork that my grandparents used to have in their house was like always the most majestic like Alp mountain scene with like a cabin.
[0:05:10 – 0:05:18] Erik: And this is just accentuated even beyond with the northern lights overhead, like just a perfect like glistening pond.
[0:05:20 – 0:05:21] Erik: I’ll read the little note here on the back.
[0:05:21 – 0:05:22] Adam: Yeah, it has information.
[0:05:22 – 0:05:23] Adam: Information.
[0:05:24 – 0:05:30] Erik: Thank you for sharing your lives, adventures, and friendship with us tumble homies via your podcasts.
[0:05:30 – 0:05:36] Erik: When regular life has me beaten down, you guys have given me stuff to both dream about and laugh at.
[0:05:37 – 0:05:41] Erik: I’m headed down the Frost River for my second solo trip this year out of Missing Link.
[0:05:41 – 0:05:45] Erik: All signs point to a wet and cool trip, but with good travel conditions.
[0:05:47 – 0:05:52] Erik: I haven’t tried this beer, but it has a high ABV for absolute best value.
[0:05:52 – 0:05:53] Erik: I forgot about that.
[0:05:53 – 0:05:54] Erik: Best value.
[0:05:54 – 0:05:55] Erik: Absolute best value.
[0:05:56 – 0:06:00] Erik: I believe that was originally coined during the dragon’s milk episode.
[0:06:03 – 0:06:26] Erik: enjoy and happy paddling and podcasting in 2024 bob ross paddler my god thank you so much i love the oh yeah it does say absolute best value on the paper bag here and i gotta give a shout out to the flannel uh duct tape that was used to tape the magic inside yeah that’s some buffalo plaid duct tape there we go thank you bob ross paddler
[0:06:29 – 0:06:34] Adam: We got ourselves a space camper, Quantum Hop IPA from Boulevard.
[0:06:34 – 0:06:35] Adam: Hey, Boulevard.
[0:06:35 – 0:06:38] Erik: Hey, it’s what, St. Louis?
[0:06:38 – 0:06:38] Erik: Kansas City.
[0:06:39 – 0:06:39] Erik: We’ve been there, no?
[0:06:40 – 0:06:42] Erik: Anybody from St. Louis, do not.
[0:06:42 – 0:06:43] Erik: I’m sorry.
[0:06:43 – 0:06:45] Erik: Or anybody from Kansas City, I’m so sorry.
[0:06:45 – 0:06:46] Adam: So sorry.
[0:06:49 – 0:06:52] Adam: Yeah, holy smokes, Gus, it’s a 9.5.
[0:06:52 – 0:06:53] Adam: Oh, my.
[0:06:53 – 0:06:54] Adam: We got a Borg here.
[0:06:55 – 0:06:55] Erik: Oh, my.
[0:06:55 – 0:06:57] Adam: It was in the mini fridge.
[0:06:58 – 0:06:59] Adam: Did you pull the plug on that mini fridge?
[0:06:59 – 0:07:00] Adam: It looks like Eric got it.
[0:07:00 – 0:07:00] Adam: I just did.
[0:07:01 – 0:07:02] Adam: He’s on top of it, of course.
[0:07:03 – 0:07:06] Adam: This beer also has a note.
[0:07:08 – 0:07:08] Adam: Double note?
[0:07:08 – 0:07:09] Adam: Double noted.
[0:07:13 – 0:07:14] Adam: Eric and Adam…
[0:07:17 – 0:07:19] Adam: Where’s the MGM Grand?
[0:07:20 – 0:07:25] Adam: This note is on stationary from the MGM Grand.
[0:07:25 – 0:07:26] Erik: Oh, yeah, it is.
[0:07:26 – 0:07:28] Erik: The signature at MGM Grand.
[0:07:28 – 0:07:29] Adam: Where’s that at?
[0:07:29 – 0:07:30] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:07:30 – 0:07:30] Adam: Vegas?
[0:07:30 – 0:07:31] Adam: Wichita, probably.
[0:07:32 – 0:07:37] Adam: Eric and Adam, while I remember you both saying you preferred abstract art, I wanted you to have this.
[0:07:37 – 0:07:38] Adam: I painted it a few weeks ago.
[0:07:38 – 0:07:39] Adam: Oh, all right.
[0:07:40 – 0:07:42] Adam: With my PBS painter friend, Bob Ross.
[0:07:42 – 0:07:43] Adam: Okay.
[0:07:43 – 0:07:48] Adam: He painted this one in 1986, Season 8, Episode 8?
[0:07:48 – 0:07:49] Adam: Or no, it’s Episode 13, I think.
[0:07:50 – 0:07:52] Adam: Look it up and take a nap.
[0:07:52 – 0:07:52] Adam: Whoa.
[0:07:53 – 0:07:59] Adam: Anyways, as with any painting, especially as new as I am to the hobby, there are things I wish I’d turned out better.
[0:07:59 – 0:08:05] Adam: Regardless, I hope you know a spot to place it so you and or others might enjoy it.
[0:08:05 – 0:08:10] Adam: Thanks for your podcast that keeps me looking forward to my next trip and laughing during the difficult times.
[0:08:11 – 0:08:13] Adam: Bob Ross Paddler, Wichita, Kansas.
[0:08:15 – 0:08:37] Erik: wichita 1862 thank you spend a night in wichita we did we did spend a night in wichita coming back from the grand canyon yeah i think we went to a uh a pizza place where we all ended up with like insane amounts of leftover pizza the next day green lantern pizza pie oh no it was just a green mill green mill yeah which is uh i believe a chain and it was not the largest green mill
[0:08:38 – 0:08:43] Adam: No, it was just a regular-sized green mill, and we each got a deep-dish pizza for ourselves.
[0:08:44 – 0:08:45] Adam: And then we hardly had any leftovers.
[0:08:45 – 0:08:47] Erik: Yeah, there was so much leftover pizza.
[0:08:47 – 0:08:52] Erik: We ate it on the drive back listening to the border battle.
[0:08:52 – 0:08:53] Erik: Border battle.
[0:08:53 – 0:08:54] Erik: Driving up I-35.
[0:08:54 – 0:09:00] Adam: That was when Eddie Lacy was on the Packers, and they ended up in a 20-20 tie after overtime.
[0:09:01 – 0:09:04] Adam: One of the only border battles to ever end in a tie.
[0:09:05 – 0:09:31] Adam: yes that was so bad i remember paul allen dan so disappointed he was almost crying on the mic yeah 20 to 20 i think like uh i’m pretty sure rogers was hurt and i believe matt flynn was starting for uh the packers at quarterback that was the tie that’s the trip yes christian ponder probably for the vikings oh god yeah it was some rough football yeah listen to that eating leftover green mill
[0:09:31 – 0:09:33] Erik: I think it was the second night of the trip.
[0:09:33 – 0:09:38] Erik: We were in Flagstaff staged to hike down to the bottom of the Grand Canyon.
[0:09:38 – 0:09:39] Adam: Yeah, we went and watched them.
[0:09:40 – 0:09:44] Erik: And we found a quote-unquote Packers bar where it was all Bears fans.
[0:09:44 – 0:09:46] Adam: It was Packers-Bears Monday Night Football.
[0:09:46 – 0:09:48] Erik: The game that he actually broke his collarbone.
[0:09:48 – 0:09:55] Erik: And I remember one of our friends that was with us was cheering the injury, and I thought the whole Grand Canyon trip was going to have to get canceled.
[0:09:56 – 0:09:56] Erik: Yeah.
[0:09:57 – 0:10:19] Adam: yeah it was a rough start it was grim times yeah they had a pretty good wing deal going though oh yeah yeah you know we set that aside the only other time i went out uh when natalie and i went out to the grand canyon rogers also got hurt on that road trip so um you know next time you think about going out west just think about what that might do the packers quarterback really
[0:10:20 – 0:10:20] Erik: Yeah.
[0:10:20 – 0:10:24] Erik: Well, at least we know that that friend did have to sleep on the floor of the hotel.
[0:10:24 – 0:10:25] Erik: That’s right.
[0:10:25 – 0:10:27] Erik: He deserved what he got that day.
[0:10:27 – 0:10:34] Adam: Remember when he tried to set up his hammock by flipping over one of the picnic tables down in Phantom Ranch?
[0:10:34 – 0:10:36] Erik: Well, we got yelled at because we couldn’t.
[0:10:36 – 0:10:39] Erik: We got yelled at for all kinds of crazy rules I’ve never been yelled at before.
[0:10:39 – 0:10:42] Erik: We were using a stove on the picnic table.
[0:10:42 – 0:10:44] Erik: They were like, no, we’ve had too many burnt crotches.
[0:10:44 – 0:10:45] Erik: Put that thing on the ground.
[0:10:45 – 0:10:46] Erik: Yeah.
[0:10:46 – 0:10:47] Erik: And I get it.
[0:10:47 – 0:10:49] Erik: You can’t have everybody using trees for hammocks down there.
[0:10:49 – 0:10:53] Erik: Otherwise, there’d be big strap grooves in all of them.
[0:10:53 – 0:10:58] Erik: But then he has to remedy the situation because that’s the only option he had for sleeping.
[0:10:58 – 0:11:07] Erik: He flipped the picnic table upside, on its long ways, up and down, and then hooked it to the bear pole or something.
[0:11:07 – 0:11:10] Adam: Yeah, there’s a bear or a mouse pole.
[0:11:10 – 0:11:11] Adam: Really, it’s a rodent pole.
[0:11:11 – 0:11:14] Erik: Yeah, I think it worked enough for him.
[0:11:14 – 0:11:15] Erik: But yeah, he had some…
[0:11:15 – 0:11:37] Erik: wild nights of sleeping on that trip he also damn near froze in bryce canyon and his his only option for survival was just to put on more jeans all he had was jeans just more denim it was really cold in bryce so cold why was the high altitude i didn’t the colorado plateau yeah turns out it’s cold in november
[0:11:37 – 0:12:00] Adam: put more jeans on and get in the car where it’s like it was so cold that night in the car yeah there’s like mountain lion warnings too oh my god that was extreme mountain lion warnings yeah we just drove immediately from there to vegas and went down the shark water slides at the mgm grand yes no it was uh the golden nugget golden nugget at the shark water slides yeah
[0:12:01 – 0:12:03] Erik: I don’t even know if that water slide is still there.
[0:12:03 – 0:12:03] Erik: Is it still out there?
[0:12:04 – 0:12:05] Erik: I mean, the water slide is probably still there.
[0:12:05 – 0:12:06] Erik: That shark’s probably long gone, though.
[0:12:07 – 0:12:07] Erik: Yeah.
[0:12:08 – 0:12:08] Adam: Poor shark.
[0:12:09 – 0:12:11] Adam: They had to boil that shark down to make the spear.
[0:12:12 – 0:12:12] Erik: Oh, God.
[0:12:13 – 0:12:13] Erik: Yeah.
[0:12:13 – 0:12:14] Erik: How do you think it’s so iridescent?
[0:12:15 – 0:12:15] Adam: Shark’s eyes.
[0:12:15 – 0:12:17] Erik: Dead eyes.
[0:12:17 – 0:12:18] Erik: Shark eye oil doll’s eyes.
[0:12:19 – 0:12:19] Erik: Doll’s eyes.
[0:12:23 – 0:12:26] Adam: Wichita, though, we were in a Best Western by the Interstate.
[0:12:26 – 0:12:31] Adam: And remember, there was a VHS loaner library of VHS movies.
[0:12:32 – 0:12:36] Erik: I think we were at the level where it was DVDs, but it was just free grab-and-take DVDs.
[0:12:36 – 0:12:40] Adam: You had to also take the VHS player and hook it up in your room.
[0:12:41 – 0:12:41] Erik: And we did it.
[0:12:41 – 0:12:42] Erik: We did it.
[0:12:42 – 0:12:48] Adam: We did, but I think we were also tired and full of pizza that I don’t think anybody made to the end of Zoolander or whatever we decided on.
[0:12:48 – 0:12:51] Erik: It was something along those lines, but I think me and you maybe powered through and ended.
[0:12:52 – 0:12:53] Erik: And we always power through, Eric.
[0:12:53 – 0:12:53] Erik: We always do.
[0:12:54 – 0:12:55] Erik: We’re always the last ones up.
[0:12:55 – 0:12:55] Erik: Yeah.
[0:12:56 – 0:12:58] Erik: Always the last ones hanging out.
[0:12:58 – 0:13:02] Erik: And yeah, I do remember that was right next to the freeway.
[0:13:02 – 0:13:02] Erik: It was…
[0:13:03 – 0:13:20] Erik: it was a real nice place i think the cheapest option probably that was available i mean at that point in our lives that was pretty much what we were looking for yeah cheap and or on the ground near the mall yeah near the green mill oh my god yeah
[0:13:20 – 0:13:22] Adam: Yeah, we had a lot of pizza left over.
[0:13:23 – 0:13:23] Erik: A lot.
[0:13:23 – 0:13:26] Erik: It was like that pizza where it’s mostly dough, too.
[0:13:26 – 0:13:27] Erik: It was just so…
[0:13:27 – 0:13:30] Erik: The thickest crust, but it wasn’t deep dish.
[0:13:30 – 0:13:36] Adam: It was just like… That was on par for when you and me and Deke were coming back from the East Coast and got that White Castle Crave case.
[0:13:36 – 0:13:39] Erik: That I had to finish Deke’s portion of.
[0:13:39 – 0:13:44] Adam: Deke was the only one that didn’t finish his 10 burgers.
[0:13:44 – 0:13:45] Adam: Sliders?
[0:13:45 – 0:13:48] Erik: Yeah, 30 cheeseburgers in a crave case.
[0:13:48 – 0:13:48] Erik: Everybody’s got to do 10.
[0:13:48 – 0:13:49] Erik: There’s three of us.
[0:13:49 – 0:13:50] Erik: Each eat 10.
[0:13:50 – 0:13:51] Erik: It’s not that crazy.
[0:13:51 – 0:13:53] Erik: And he’s like, oh, he ate six.
[0:13:53 – 0:13:54] Erik: And he’s like, I don’t know, man.
[0:13:54 – 0:13:55] Erik: I can’t do it.
[0:13:55 – 0:13:58] Erik: Meanwhile, me and Eric are like, 10, no problem.
[0:13:58 – 0:13:59] Adam: I can do a couple more.
[0:13:59 – 0:14:01] Adam: Yeah, I can throw a couple extra back.
[0:14:01 – 0:14:06] Erik: It’s like, what, are we going to leave these things just to come to room temperature in the inside of this thing?
[0:14:07 – 0:14:34] Adam: that was where we were driving at the time i think indiana there for the next 10 hours uh we were i think we ended up staying on lake puckaway uh yeah we did at my place on puckaway that i still had at the time uh we crashed there that night pretty late we got in yeah that was the same uh like literally i think the same stop when we picked up the crave cases when we stopped at the gas station with the cologne the pump cologne machine in the bathroom operated coin operated cologne dispenser
[0:14:34 – 0:14:40] Erik: Yeah, I preloaded myself on the cologne knowing what I was about to get myself into.
[0:14:40 – 0:14:42] Adam: That’s how you were able to just throw them back so nice.
[0:14:43 – 0:14:45] Adam: Smelling good, real hungry.
[0:14:46 – 0:14:49] Adam: That’s the name of the game on a road trip with me and Eric.
[0:14:49 – 0:14:51] Erik: Smelling good, real hungry.
[0:14:51 – 0:14:52] Erik: Smelling good, real hungry.
[0:14:52 – 0:14:57] Adam: That’s basically what it’s like to be on a trip with us, whether it’s a road trip or a canoe trip.
[0:14:57 – 0:14:58] Adam: Yeah, basically.
[0:14:58 – 0:15:00] Adam: Wichita or the middle of Quetico.
[0:15:00 – 0:15:01] Adam: It’s all the same to us.
[0:15:02 – 0:15:03] Erik: From Wichita to Winchell.
[0:15:04 – 0:15:04] Adam: Thank you.
[0:15:04 – 0:15:05] Erik: Smelling good, always hungry.
[0:15:06 – 0:15:07] Adam: Thank you, Bob Ross Paddler.
[0:15:08 – 0:15:11] Adam: You really sent us down a memory lane.
[0:15:11 – 0:15:15] Erik: Yeah, we could just sit here and reminisce about all of the road trips we’ve been on together.
[0:15:15 – 0:15:18] Erik: I’m sure there’s many more memories out there.
[0:15:18 – 0:15:22] Adam: I’m going to give the space camper 10 out of 10 mountain lion warnings.
[0:15:26 – 0:15:52] Erik: warnings yeah warnings um yeah wichita was on 54 i don’t know what’s desolate country out there the road yeah i think that you’re coming up that weird diagonal road to get to wichita yeah it wasn’t the interstate because i remember we went through liberal which has the because i was talking about uh somebody at work about this because somebody’s mentioned something about grand rapids minnesota yeah
[0:15:52 – 0:15:54] Erik: And they were like, oh, it’s where Judy Garland’s from.
[0:15:54 – 0:15:55] Erik: I was like, I thought she was from Kansas.
[0:15:55 – 0:15:58] Erik: Like, there’s a statue over down in Liberal.
[0:15:58 – 0:16:00] Erik: But they just have the statue for the character.
[0:16:01 – 0:16:02] Erik: She is from Grand Rapids, Minnesota.
[0:16:03 – 0:16:05] Adam: Oh, yeah, but Dorothy’s from Liberal?
[0:16:05 – 0:16:06] Erik: I guess.
[0:16:06 – 0:16:07] Erik: Like, okay, you’ve got a statue.
[0:16:07 – 0:16:08] Erik: It’s like the Rocky statue.
[0:16:08 – 0:16:09] Erik: It’s like, what are you doing?
[0:16:09 – 0:16:10] Erik: It’s a fictional character.
[0:16:10 – 0:16:11] Adam: It’s not real.
[0:16:11 – 0:16:14] Erik: And he’s still even lost in the movie.
[0:16:14 – 0:16:15] Erik: Dorothy’s not real.
[0:16:16 – 0:16:17] Adam: So is Dorothy.
[0:16:17 – 0:16:18] Erik: Dorothy lost too.
[0:16:18 – 0:16:20] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:16:20 – 0:16:21] Erik: Maybe she won.
[0:16:21 – 0:16:28] Adam: Then when Natalie and I were going through Liberal on the way back on our trip, we saw like a high-speed police chase.
[0:16:28 – 0:16:29] Erik: Oh, damn.
[0:16:29 – 0:16:29] Adam: What’s going on out there?
[0:16:30 – 0:16:30] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:16:30 – 0:16:32] Adam: I didn’t think there was crime in Kansas.
[0:16:32 – 0:16:37] Erik: Just slaughtering cows and meat processing plants.
[0:16:37 – 0:16:39] Adam: Yeah, just slaughterhouse.
[0:16:39 – 0:16:43] Erik: I mean, I guess there’s the Mary Tyler Moore statue down in the Twin Cities too, right?
[0:16:44 – 0:16:45] Adam: Yeah, I did see that one.
[0:16:45 – 0:16:45] Adam: Yeah.
[0:16:46 – 0:16:46] Adam: I did see that one too.
[0:16:47 – 0:16:48] Adam: Right on Nicolette.
[0:16:48 – 0:16:48] Erik: Yeah.
[0:16:49 – 0:16:50] Adam: Yeah, I did see that one.
[0:16:50 – 0:16:50] Erik: Yeah.
[0:16:50 – 0:16:52] Erik: We are going to make it after all, aren’t we?
[0:16:52 – 0:16:53] Adam: Yeah.
[0:16:53 – 0:16:55] Adam: That’s a winning mentality right there.
[0:16:55 – 0:16:56] Erik: Winning mentality.
[0:16:56 – 0:16:57] Erik: Thank you.
[0:16:57 – 0:16:58] Erik: Until you tie.
[0:16:58 – 0:16:59] Erik: Hey.
[0:16:59 – 0:17:00] Erik: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[0:17:00 – 0:17:00] Erik: 9.5%.
[0:17:00 – 0:17:02] Erik: Are you going to be able to manage that?
[0:17:02 – 0:17:05] Adam: I’m just going to have one of these and then that’s it.
[0:17:06 – 0:17:07] Erik: And ratchet her back to the.
[0:17:07 – 0:17:09] Adam: Then I will go back to Mingold or something.
[0:17:10 – 0:17:12] Adam: That’s pretty much like drinking water then.
[0:17:13 – 0:17:15] SPEAKER_04: So it’ll all even out.
[0:17:15 – 0:17:15] Erik: Yeah.
[0:17:16 – 0:17:16] Erik: Nice.
[0:17:18 – 0:17:19] Erik: So we’re talking packs tonight.
[0:17:19 – 0:17:43] Erik: yeah i guess we’re uh we got two packs unloaded already yeah we’ve unpacked two physical packs we’ve unpacked two uh metaphysical packs in the form of uh some light road trip memories for you all um yeah just in uh i don’t know man this one looks like it might need to go up and uh or near like a fireplace or something i feel this picture is uh
[0:17:44 – 0:17:51] Adam: Yeah, we’ll either have to install a fireplace in the shed or we’ll have to install a fireplace in your place.
[0:17:52 – 0:17:53] Adam: Hang it.
[0:17:54 – 0:17:57] Adam: He still has a couple tears coming down his cheek over there.
[0:17:57 – 0:17:59] Adam: I’ll wipe those away quickly.
[0:17:59 – 0:18:02] Adam: You can just imagine yourself in the little cabin on the painting.
[0:18:03 – 0:18:08] Adam: We have to go back now and watch the Bob Ross episode.
[0:18:08 – 0:18:09] Adam: You’ve got the notes on it.
[0:18:09 – 0:18:09] Adam: 1986.
[0:18:09 – 0:18:11] Adam: Classic, classic.
[0:18:11 – 0:18:12] Adam: Do you think that’s on?
[0:18:12 – 0:18:13] Adam: We’ll find it.
[0:18:13 – 0:18:14] Adam: We will find it.
[0:18:14 – 0:18:16] Erik: It’s on PBS Plus or something, probably.
[0:18:16 – 0:18:18] Erik: They have an app now, right?
[0:18:19 – 0:18:20] Adam: Everybody’s got an app now, yeah.
[0:18:20 – 0:18:22] Adam: It probably is behind a paywall, probably.
[0:18:22 – 0:18:23] Adam: PBS Max.
[0:18:23 – 0:18:24] Adam: I’ll find it for you.
[0:18:24 – 0:18:25] Adam: I’ll send you a link, Eric.
[0:18:25 – 0:18:26] Adam: Do that, yes.
[0:18:26 – 0:18:28] Adam: Just disable your pop-ups and your Adobe.
[0:18:28 – 0:18:30] Erik: Yeah, and allow Russian sites.
[0:18:31 – 0:18:32] Adam: Absolutely.
[0:18:32 – 0:18:33] Erik: Anything ending in .xyz.
[0:18:36 – 0:18:38] Adam: Activate your VPN and let your mind roam free.
[0:18:39 – 0:18:40] Adam: Okay.
[0:18:40 – 0:18:42] Adam: Pop your cork and let the water flow, brother.
[0:18:42 – 0:18:42] Adam: Nice.
[0:18:43 – 0:18:43] Adam: There it is.
[0:18:44 – 0:18:49] Erik: Yeah, we’re talking PAX 35 days ago, somewhere around that time frame, I believe.
[0:18:49 – 0:18:50] Erik: Who posted this?
[0:18:51 – 0:18:53] Adam: Dirty Dad Bod, maybe?
[0:18:53 – 0:18:53] Erik: Yeah.
[0:18:54 – 0:18:56] Adam: This is the question that people… Gobi in my pants.
[0:18:56 – 0:18:57] Erik: Gobi in my pants.
[0:18:57 – 0:18:58] Erik: Sorry, don’t.
[0:18:58 – 0:19:03] Erik: I didn’t mean to misattribute any… Quickly fact-checked on the fly.
[0:19:04 – 0:19:05] Erik: Quickly fact-checked.
[0:19:05 – 0:19:05] Erik: Pew, pew, pew.
[0:19:06 – 0:19:06] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:19:06 – 0:19:09] Erik: We’ve never really talked about this in any…
[0:19:09 – 0:19:11] Adam: I didn’t know people had this much passion for PAX.
[0:19:12 – 0:19:13] Erik: 52 comments strong.
[0:19:13 – 0:19:19] Erik: Passionate, passionate group out there when it comes to kinds of packs used.
[0:19:19 – 0:19:22] Erik: Duluth style, dry bag, backpacking pack.
[0:19:22 – 0:19:28] Erik: You know, it’s like, I don’t know, every version of gear we’ve talked about at this point.
[0:19:29 – 0:19:32] Erik: I don’t know if there’s a for sure answer.
[0:19:32 – 0:19:44] Erik: We have gone through our trials and tribulations with packs, good and bad, kind of settled on, I think at a certain point, just what we feel most comfortable with.
[0:19:45 – 0:19:49] Erik: Yeah, there might be a better option, but it’s what we have now.
[0:19:50 – 0:19:55] Adam: The only thing I would change after all these years is I’m still curious about tump lines.
[0:19:56 – 0:19:57] Erik: Yeah, tump lines are always a little…
[0:19:57 – 0:19:59] Adam: I’m a little tump curious.
[0:20:00 – 0:20:00] Erik: Yeah.
[0:20:00 – 0:20:03] Adam: I want to try it out.
[0:20:03 – 0:20:05] Adam: I want to feel the power in my forehead.
[0:20:05 – 0:20:11] Erik: You want to feel that rigid neck taking some weight off your lower back.
[0:20:12 – 0:20:13] Adam: Like that.
[0:20:14 – 0:20:22] Erik: I can’t say that I’ve ever actually physically used a tump line on an actual fully loaded pack before.
[0:20:23 – 0:20:28] Adam: Yeah, I had that opportunity on the Tuscarora portage and failed to take advantage of that.
[0:20:29 – 0:20:33] Erik: Yeah, hard leather, dried out canvas, wrenched down.
[0:20:33 – 0:20:35] Adam: Packed full of cast iron skillets.
[0:20:35 – 0:20:36] Adam: Skillets and muskets.
[0:20:36 – 0:20:37] Adam: Perfect, yeah.
[0:20:37 – 0:20:39] Adam: A lot of bald lead.
[0:20:42 – 0:20:43] Adam: Burgared lead.
[0:20:43 – 0:20:44] Adam: Yeah.
[0:20:46 – 0:20:46] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:20:47 – 0:20:55] Erik: I mean, I think we’ve obviously heard my original tale of woe.
[0:20:55 – 0:20:56] Erik: At the time, it was amazing.
[0:20:56 – 0:20:57] Erik: I didn’t really care.
[0:20:57 – 0:21:05] Erik: But in retrospect, we had the massive, you just go to like the local sporting goods store.
[0:21:05 – 0:21:07] Erik: I believe it was Gander Mountain at the time.
[0:21:08 – 0:21:09] Erik: Rest in peace.
[0:21:10 – 0:21:12] Erik: Now it’s like an RV store, I think.
[0:21:13 – 0:21:14] Adam: Patriot RV.
[0:21:14 – 0:21:19] Erik: Largest American flag north of the Mason-Dixon line.
[0:21:21 – 0:21:28] Erik: But yeah, it was just one of those jumbo, super tall, like, I’m going to through-hike the AT on one of those.
[0:21:28 – 0:21:28] Adam: Yeah.
[0:21:29 – 0:21:33] Erik: Not really well-suited for multiple reasons.
[0:21:33 – 0:21:35] Erik: They don’t fit in canoes well.
[0:21:35 – 0:21:38] Erik: You can’t really portage a canoe with one on.
[0:21:39 – 0:21:40] Adam: That’s two strikes.
[0:21:40 – 0:21:40] Adam: Yeah.
[0:21:40 – 0:21:41] Erik: And they’re just…
[0:21:41 – 0:21:42] Erik: I mean, yeah, sure.
[0:21:42 – 0:21:43] Erik: Unless they’re ugly.
[0:21:43 – 0:21:45] Erik: Yeah, they’re… You’re out of here.
[0:21:45 – 0:21:57] Erik: Generally not really, I don’t know, aesthetically pleasing, which, you know, that’s not necessarily here nor there when it comes to actual, like, physical properties, but it’s a factor there.
[0:21:57 – 0:21:57] Erik: Mm-hmm.
[0:21:58 – 0:22:00] Erik: And then, yeah, I think…
[0:22:00 – 0:22:06] Erik: I think it just pretty much immediately landed in the world of working for an outfitter.
[0:22:06 – 0:22:25] Erik: So I was like, okay, these are your twos for food, threes for kind of personal gear, and number four, regardless of who’s making it, whether that’s, you know, synthetic material from like granite gear or CCS, or if it is, you know, your upper end.
[0:22:25 – 0:22:29] Erik: At the time, I believe they still hadn’t gone like full –
[0:22:30 – 0:22:35] Erik: like bourgeoisie frosts, you know, or not frost river, but Duluth pack.
[0:22:36 – 0:22:38] Erik: They were still basically known for the pack.
[0:22:38 – 0:22:46] Erik: They weren’t, you know, your shoulder bag with the big leather strap walking down like Madison Avenue in New York city.
[0:22:48 – 0:22:59] Erik: Not to say they don’t make great packs, but I feel like they’ve branched into like, you know, they’re trying to make a little bit more money and not just make a pack for a very specific camping style.
[0:23:00 – 0:23:01] Adam: It’s understandable.
[0:23:01 – 0:23:06] Erik: Yeah, made out of a little bit more like, you’re buying one of those, you’re probably going to have it for the rest of your life, you know?
[0:23:07 – 0:23:09] Erik: But that comes with…
[0:23:10 – 0:23:28] Erik: leather straps a little bit of a decrease in comfort maybe but i never really got into the like full-blown dry bag or like duffel bag that has like the really heavy duty like zipper or whatever with the backpack thing you see a lot of people using those
[0:23:29 – 0:23:30] Erik: So, yeah, I don’t know.
[0:23:30 – 0:23:43] Erik: I feel like if I wouldn’t have had the direct line to what I think most outfitters use, and that is a variety of your Duluth style pack.
[0:23:44 – 0:23:45] Erik: I don’t know where I would have gone.
[0:23:45 – 0:23:47] Erik: Probably would have held on to that backpacking pack for a while.
[0:23:47 – 0:23:48] Adam: Probably, yeah.
[0:23:48 – 0:23:58] Adam: No, we’re, you know, being up the trail and aligned with outfitters, like you just sort of always have access to the best gear.
[0:23:58 – 0:23:58] Adam: Yeah.
[0:23:59 – 0:24:02] Adam: On a kind of a permanent leasing system.
[0:24:02 – 0:24:06] Erik: Yeah, I mean, your first Boundary Waters experience was through being in an Outfitter 2, right?
[0:24:07 – 0:24:07] Erik: Yeah.
[0:24:07 – 0:24:10] Erik: So you kind of were just like, oh, this is just what, you know.
[0:24:10 – 0:24:11] Adam: Yeah, I don’t really remember.
[0:24:11 – 0:24:16] Adam: I assume that was just like a CCS, you know, big square green pack.
[0:24:16 – 0:24:16] Adam: Pretty much, yeah.
[0:24:17 – 0:24:18] Adam: And aluminum Grumman.
[0:24:18 – 0:24:18] Adam: Yeah.
[0:24:19 – 0:24:20] Adam: The staff canoe.
[0:24:20 – 0:24:21] Adam: Yeah, the staff canoe.
[0:24:23 – 0:24:27] Adam: And, yeah, it was rough going, but I don’t know.
[0:24:28 – 0:24:29] Adam: All I remember was I was having a great time.
[0:24:29 – 0:24:32] Adam: So packed in matter in that case.
[0:24:33 – 0:24:38] Adam: And then, yeah, that yellow, like, north face thing that I brought with us on the Frost River, like, I’ve had that forever.
[0:24:38 – 0:24:41] Adam: I remember taking trips, like, early 2000s where that was on.
[0:24:43 – 0:24:45] Adam: That pack’s been on a lot of trips for me.
[0:24:45 – 0:24:46] Adam: That big square kind of –
[0:24:47 – 0:25:11] Adam: you know rubberized duffel yeah oh yeah a huge zipper did you bring that to cuetico for the whole time i don’t remember having that did we get everything into like i think we just packed everything into fours for that one yeah or the big uh was it even a food barrel it was more like that big square um food yeah it was i think it wasn’t even a bear barrel then it was just the big square food pack
[0:25:12 – 0:25:16] Erik: Except I think it was plastic, like a hard plastic with like the bungee lid.
[0:25:16 – 0:25:16] Erik: Yeah.
[0:25:17 – 0:25:18] Erik: Yeah.
[0:25:18 – 0:25:22] Erik: Held up a little bit better than the cardboard boxes that we used to send out.
[0:25:22 – 0:25:30] Erik: Those things would just come back like I’d been chewed on by some ravaged wet mouth beast for four days straight.
[0:25:31 – 0:25:31] Erik: It’s limp.
[0:25:32 – 0:25:34] Erik: It’s not even holding its shape anymore.
[0:25:35 – 0:25:36] Erik: But yeah.
[0:25:37 – 0:25:37] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:25:37 – 0:25:37] Erik: Like…
[0:25:39 – 0:26:03] Erik: there is i don’t even know if this is maybe just a where i’m at with like boundary waters camping but i i would i’d take anything if it holds what i need to have like i’ll like there’s so many things now that i used to and i don’t want to say that i don’t care but it’s just like it’s not really what gets me going anymore about it it’s just like actually getting out there and doing it like
[0:26:04 – 0:26:06] Erik: Whatever I have available to me, I’ll use.
[0:26:06 – 0:26:06] Erik: I don’t care.
[0:26:06 – 0:26:07] Erik: I don’t have a preference.
[0:26:07 – 0:26:09] Adam: All those packs are generally, it will get the job done.
[0:26:09 – 0:26:10] Adam: Yeah.
[0:26:10 – 0:26:10] Adam: You know.
[0:26:10 – 0:26:11] Erik: Yeah.
[0:26:11 – 0:26:19] Erik: I’m not going to criticize, you know, not even nearly as much as I would, you know, wet footing, dry footing like we used to or sky sleeper, ground sleeper.
[0:26:19 – 0:26:19] Erik: I don’t care.
[0:26:19 – 0:26:21] Erik: Whatever you want to take out, it’s a pack.
[0:26:21 – 0:26:45] Adam: yeah the ones I got are fine you know and actually the only real game changer in my in my paddling career has been the you know the new bear barrels sure those are really nice and I’m glad we have them now yeah I would say I would agree with that I feel like that is definitely been it’s there’s a level of security you feel a little bit safer about it I think it just feels way better when you’re actually carrying it
[0:26:45 – 0:26:46] Adam: I do too, yeah.
[0:26:46 – 0:26:47] Adam: Those are really nice.
[0:26:48 – 0:26:52] Adam: But, you know, otherwise, you know, they’re all pretty good.
[0:26:52 – 0:26:52] Erik: Yeah.
[0:26:53 – 0:26:55] Erik: I mean, as long as you’re not like, you know…
[0:26:57 – 0:27:23] Erik: hike into the bottom of the grand canyon like with loose plastic grocery bags from the iga like you see some people walking down there with like their banana and sandwich in yeah just slung over your shoulder i mean maybe to do that i don’t really care if you’re if that’s the way you want to do it then do it but like that’s really the only way i would be like all right that’s maybe a little bit out of the question but anything that you can put on your shoulders and carry yeah yeah it’s good
[0:27:24 – 0:27:30] Adam: The way I am when I’m going to buy a gear, though, I get a little nuts when I’m going to actually buy something.
[0:27:31 – 0:27:32] Adam: Then I get into research mode.
[0:27:32 – 0:27:33] Adam: Oh, God, yeah.
[0:27:34 – 0:27:41] Adam: So I can totally get why there’s so many comments on a thread like this because if I was actually in the market to buying a pack right now, that’s where my mind would be.
[0:27:41 – 0:27:50] Adam: I want to know every single thought on every pack that anybody’s got out there and get the one that perfectly matches up with what I really want in a dream pack.
[0:27:50 – 0:27:54] Adam: As opposed to just like, well, whatever I got my hands on now, it’s good enough and I’m happy enough with it.
[0:27:54 – 0:27:55] Adam: I don’t need to replace it.
[0:27:56 – 0:28:01] Adam: But if I didn’t have a pack and I was looking to get one, I could see like a thread like this could be super valuable.
[0:28:02 – 0:28:04] Adam: So I’m looking forward to like hearing what people have to say.
[0:28:04 – 0:28:11] Adam: And I can totally relate to when I’m about to like spend some good money on a piece of gear that I really overdo it on the research.
[0:28:11 – 0:28:11] Erik: Totally.
[0:28:12 – 0:28:24] Erik: Before we get into some of the comments, which we will, I don’t even know if there’s necessarily a good answer for this or if it’s just me overthinking it, but is there, like, what do you think the… Is it everybody?
[0:28:24 – 0:28:32] Erik: Is it because of the proliferation and access to information and the internet at large that there is?
[0:28:32 – 0:28:37] Erik: I almost feel like the process of researching…
[0:28:38 – 0:29:05] Erik: stuff like that whether it’s a pack whether it’s like whatever i’m gonna you know what it’s time to just bite the bullet we need uh a new chainsaw whatever it is yeah like i honestly spend more time and i get much more enjoyment out of the researching i’m gonna watch like a youtube video video on the husqvarna versus the steel versus the whatever
[0:29:05 – 0:29:26] Adam: for anything i do that for i’ll do that for like a month yeah and then when it comes to i there’s actually like a level of disappointment when it’s like all right i made my decision this is the one i’m buying no and i don’t get to watch any more videos then is everybody like that though i’m like that quite a bit yeah yeah i like i really enjoy the research phase of buying a new piece of gear
[0:29:27 – 0:29:28] Erik: Yeah, I feel like that’s…
[0:29:28 – 0:29:29] Adam: It can be overwhelming though.
[0:29:30 – 0:29:30] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:29:30 – 0:29:31] Erik: In this day and age.
[0:29:31 – 0:29:39] Erik: Sometimes it gets to a certain point where it can almost get borderline stressful where you just like you look up and there’s like 24 open tabs.
[0:29:39 – 0:29:40] Erik: Right, right.
[0:29:40 – 0:29:40] Erik: All right.
[0:29:41 – 0:29:43] Erik: I got to read one of these and whittle it down.
[0:29:44 – 0:29:48] Erik: Instead of just like clicking every link and then I’ll read that later.
[0:29:48 – 0:29:49] Erik: Ooh, this one looks good.
[0:29:49 – 0:29:50] Erik: This is a seven-part series.
[0:29:52 – 0:29:53] Erik: It’s like just make a decision.
[0:29:54 – 0:30:01] Adam: The last time I really got into this, when I was like, I mentioned it on the podcast, I was like considering a new pair of hiking boots.
[0:30:01 – 0:30:05] Adam: And, you know, we got a bunch of comments on what people liked in a hiking boot.
[0:30:06 – 0:30:07] Adam: And it was just overwhelming.
[0:30:07 – 0:30:13] Adam: Like I ended up not making a decision, like deferring it almost a whole year before I finally like pulled the trigger.
[0:30:13 – 0:30:16] Adam: And then I just went with extra toughs, which are great.
[0:30:16 – 0:30:19] Adam: And they’re not even a hiking boot, but they’re great for everything.
[0:30:19 – 0:30:20] Adam: I wear them almost every day.
[0:30:21 – 0:30:24] Erik: I wear mine almost every day too still, even in the heat of the summer.
[0:30:24 – 0:30:26] Erik: They’re just good in all temps.
[0:30:26 – 0:30:28] Erik: I don’t really feel like I get too hot in them ever.
[0:30:28 – 0:30:30] Adam: No, I just wear those every day damn near.
[0:30:31 – 0:30:41] Adam: They’re a great purchase, but not at all what I thought I was going to buy when I wanted to get a new mid-height boot or a high-top boot.
[0:30:42 – 0:31:04] Adam: that’s what i end up with but that’s not what i thought i was gonna get into when i started the journey yeah no and i’m glad i ended up there though yeah i am too i am glad you’re uh on team extra tough at this point well i still have the astrals and i we talked about that in the past and you know those water shoe boots are great for even if you’re just messing around in the yard like they’re nice lightweight boots with like good support and
[0:31:05 – 0:31:05] Adam: Yeah.
[0:31:05 – 0:31:05] Erik: Oh, well, yeah.
[0:31:05 – 0:31:06] Erik: I don’t think the extra protection.
[0:31:07 – 0:31:07] Erik: Yeah.
[0:31:07 – 0:31:08] Erik: Toe protection for sure.
[0:31:08 – 0:31:13] Erik: I don’t think the extra tough, like the low cut ones is a real great boundary waters option.
[0:31:13 – 0:31:14] Erik: Honestly.
[0:31:14 – 0:31:14] Erik: No.
[0:31:14 – 0:31:16] Erik: Very little like ankle support.
[0:31:17 – 0:31:22] Erik: If anything, I find myself like kind of like rolling over on them a little bit because they are kind of like floppy.
[0:31:22 – 0:31:27] Erik: And then obviously like you’re going to get water in those like pretty quickly.
[0:31:27 – 0:31:32] Erik: And if you’re wearing like shorts or something, you get a lot of debris in the open.
[0:31:32 – 0:31:33] Erik: You do get debris.
[0:31:33 – 0:31:35] Erik: Yeah, I’ve had that happen.
[0:31:35 – 0:31:36] Erik: Yeah.
[0:31:36 – 0:31:41] Adam: They’re really good for just like mowing or shooting a disco for walking the dog though.
[0:31:41 – 0:31:43] Adam: Like pretty much any condition, they’re great.
[0:31:43 – 0:31:43] Erik: Yeah.
[0:31:44 – 0:31:46] Erik: General use Northern lifestyle boot.
[0:31:46 – 0:31:47] Erik: Yeah, pretty great.
[0:31:47 – 0:31:47] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:31:47 – 0:31:50] Adam: Maybe after this series, then I’ll want to buy a new pack.
[0:31:50 – 0:31:56] Adam: But I just feel like we’re, as a podcast and as a friend group, we’re pack rich.
[0:31:56 – 0:31:57] Adam: Yeah, I think we’re packed.
[0:31:57 – 0:31:59] Adam: And I feel like we have all the pack we need.
[0:31:59 – 0:32:04] Erik: Yeah, I think it would be money ill spent at this point to put it towards any more storage products.
[0:32:05 – 0:32:12] Adam: Until that strap rips off the big black pack, we probably don’t need to even worry about packs for the foreseeable future.
[0:32:12 – 0:32:19] Erik: I mean, even then, I’d rather learn how to do some heavy-duty sewing before I buy a whole brand new pack.
[0:32:19 – 0:32:20] Erik: And then add a tump.
[0:32:20 – 0:32:22] Erik: Yeah, and then add a tump.
[0:32:22 – 0:32:23] Adam: Add a tump, guy.
[0:32:24 – 0:32:28] Erik: Yeah, so we’ll see how many of these we get through.
[0:32:28 – 0:32:38] Erik: We are starting off the comment section on what type of pack does everyone use for Portagen with what looks like a video from Cheap Dancer.
[0:32:39 – 0:32:47] Erik: And I think maybe we’ll just quick pause this so we can watch it because I clicked the link and from what I saw immediately –
[0:32:47 – 0:33:00] Erik: Just watching it in silence, it seemed like there could be some comedy gold here, and I just want to make sure you guys at home aren’t just listening to us in silence watching a video.
[0:33:00 – 0:33:01] Erik: This is a reaction video.
[0:33:02 – 0:33:03] SPEAKER_04: This is a reaction video.
[0:33:03 – 0:33:04] Erik: This is a reaction podcast now.
[0:33:05 – 0:33:07] Adam: We’re reacting to our reaction video.
[0:33:07 – 0:33:08] Erik: Yeah, exactly.
[0:33:08 – 0:33:11] Erik: So just hang on, buckle up, and we’ll be back.
[0:33:12 – 0:33:13] Erik: And then be prepared to unbuckle.
[0:33:14 – 0:33:36] Erik: oh god okay well oh boy man i am so happy that we decided to watch that three minute uh youtube gold video how does that only cheeks are hurting from laughing how does that only have 1.9 million views i feel like that’s uh it should have 37 trillion views
[0:33:37 – 0:33:38] SPEAKER_04: The Flex Trek Whipsnake.
[0:33:39 – 0:33:39] SPEAKER_04: Whipsnake.
[0:33:40 – 0:33:40] Erik: Oh, boy.
[0:33:40 – 0:33:41] Erik: Yeah.
[0:33:41 – 0:33:45] Erik: So if you’re not on the subreddit, just YouTube the Flex Trek Whipsnake.
[0:33:45 – 0:33:50] Erik: It is, boy, it is a pack like none other, like nothing you’ve ever seen.
[0:33:50 – 0:33:57] Erik: And, you know, I think we all need to be out there intimidating our surroundings and devastating the environment more.
[0:33:57 – 0:33:59] Adam: That’s why I always buy Archwood, Eric.
[0:34:00 – 0:34:01] Erik: Always buy Archwood.
[0:34:01 – 0:34:06] Adam: And I always hike in Le Crevasse hiking pant.
[0:34:06 – 0:34:07] Erik: You literally never have to wash those.
[0:34:07 – 0:34:08] Erik: Never have to wash them.
[0:34:08 – 0:34:09] Erik: That’s great.
[0:34:09 – 0:34:11] Adam: You show off the maximum amount of French leg.
[0:34:12 – 0:34:15] Adam: Steve Clymer wears them best, but I think either of us could probably pull it off.
[0:34:16 – 0:34:16] Erik: Probably.
[0:34:17 – 0:34:22] Adam: My real question after watching this is, is Steve Clymer played by a cheap dancer?
[0:34:22 – 0:34:23] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:34:23 – 0:34:24] Adam: Cheap dancer.
[0:34:24 – 0:34:25] Adam: Is that you?
[0:34:25 – 0:34:27] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:34:27 – 0:34:28] Adam: I could see that it could be.
[0:34:28 – 0:34:33] Erik: The voice of the ad man had some Jesse Ventura vibes, too.
[0:34:33 – 0:34:34] Adam: Yeah, he did.
[0:34:34 – 0:34:39] Erik: Very powerful, big, open mouth talking.
[0:34:39 – 0:34:42] Adam: But it sounds like they slowed down the audio just a touch.
[0:34:42 – 0:34:42] Adam: Just a little bit.
[0:34:42 – 0:34:43] Adam: Two ticks slow.
[0:34:44 – 0:34:44] Adam: Yeah.
[0:34:45 – 0:34:45] Adam: Oh, my.
[0:34:45 – 0:34:46] Erik: Well, stay tuned.
[0:34:47 – 0:34:49] Erik: We’ll definitely play some audio from that at the end of the episode.
[0:34:49 – 0:34:59] Adam: So, yeah, whatever packs you’re wearing, you got to toss them and go buy a Flextrek 37 trillion Whipsnake edition.
[0:34:59 – 0:35:00] Erik: 37 trillion Whipsnake.
[0:35:00 – 0:35:06] Erik: It looks like, I don’t know, 15 packs connected together.
[0:35:06 – 0:35:09] Adam: Like all the water bottles dangling off the center of it.
[0:35:10 – 0:35:15] Adam: And it’s really maneuverable and durable, as shown in the video.
[0:35:16 – 0:35:17] Erik: What was one of the other packs they had?
[0:35:18 – 0:35:18] Erik: The Black Geyser?
[0:35:19 – 0:35:24] Erik: Just going off at a weird sloping angle.
[0:35:25 – 0:35:26] Adam: It’s pure gold.
[0:35:26 – 0:35:28] Adam: This video is one of the best things I’ve seen all year.
[0:35:29 – 0:35:30] Erik: How have I never seen that before?
[0:35:30 – 0:35:31] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:35:31 – 0:35:37] Adam: I feel like I’ve just been let in on one of the internet’s best secrets right here on Tumble Home.
[0:35:37 – 0:35:40] Adam: After Dark Whipsnake Edition.
[0:35:41 – 0:35:41] TumblehomeHipHop: Incredible.
[0:35:41 – 0:35:43] Erik: I don’t know if we can come back from that.
[0:35:43 – 0:35:48] Erik: I mean, I feel like every comment would have a video of that level.
[0:35:48 – 0:35:52] Erik: Like we have a whole like summer’s worth of content here at this point.
[0:35:52 – 0:35:59] Adam: I suspect Cheap Dancer is somehow involved in the production of this video and maybe even starring in it as Steve Clymer.
[0:35:59 – 0:36:00] Erik: You would know better than I.
[0:36:00 – 0:36:01] Erik: You’ve met him.
[0:36:01 – 0:36:02] Erik: I’ve not.
[0:36:02 – 0:36:03] Adam: How have you not met Cheap Dancer?
[0:36:04 – 0:36:04] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:36:04 – 0:36:04] Erik: Are you sure?
[0:36:05 – 0:36:06] Erik: You know, I’m elusive.
[0:36:07 – 0:36:07] Erik: I’m reclusive.
[0:36:08 – 0:36:10] Erik: I’m out there devastating and intimidating my surroundings.
[0:36:10 – 0:36:11] Adam: You’re all the sieves, yeah.
[0:36:12 – 0:36:13] Erik: With the whip snake.
[0:36:13 – 0:36:14] Erik: Whip snake.
[0:36:16 – 0:36:16] Adam: Yikes.
[0:36:17 – 0:36:17] Adam: That’s great.
[0:36:18 – 0:36:20] Adam: I’m going to be giggling about this all night.
[0:36:20 – 0:36:22] Adam: We’re going to have to watch it again after the show.
[0:36:22 – 0:36:24] Adam: I think we probably will have to watch it again.
[0:36:24 – 0:36:26] Erik: We’ll have to watch it one more time.
[0:36:26 – 0:36:29] Erik: I’ll just randomly pop it on, too, maybe when you’re reading a comment.
[0:36:29 – 0:36:30] Erik: There we go.
[0:36:30 – 0:36:30] Adam: We’ll see what happens.
[0:36:31 – 0:36:52] Adam: yeah that was great thank you for that that was the top comment of course yeah it’s a video comment wave of the future yes totally interactive totally interactive that was from cheap dancer as we said the comment was pack rankers and then it was a link with the comment the pack i’m currently daydreaming about we’re all gonna be daydreaming about that yeah
[0:36:53 – 0:37:14] Erik: uh yeah we need to like post a link directly of that video to the subreddit and the discord one of the yes one of the comments was from hopalicious here it’s saying i think steve climber needs to be tumble home lore as the polar opposite of uncle rex yeah i think so that’s overly geared people in the park steve climber yeah steve climber knows
[0:37:15 – 0:37:23] Erik: Yeah, and then I love that the dentist’s fishing crew has also been slowly matriculating itself into the Tumble Home PD.
[0:37:23 – 0:37:24] Adam: Track dads.
[0:37:24 – 0:37:27] Erik: Yeah, with all their fishing equipment.
[0:37:27 – 0:37:30] Erik: Yeah, there’s some people that that’s what they’re all about.
[0:37:31 – 0:37:32] Erik: I don’t think they’re hurting anybody.
[0:37:32 – 0:37:34] Erik: Just themselves.
[0:37:34 – 0:37:35] Erik: Just themselves.
[0:37:36 – 0:37:37] Erik: Amazing.
[0:37:37 – 0:37:38] Erik: Whipsnake.
[0:37:38 – 0:37:41] Erik: Scotty Baldwin comment number two says,
[0:37:42 – 0:37:44] Erik: And we’ll turn it over to you, my friend.
[0:37:44 – 0:37:49] Erik: We got the CCS, the Hybrid Pioneer, the Hybrid Explorer.
[0:37:50 – 0:37:53] Erik: I don’t know what those ones look like off the top of my head.
[0:37:53 – 0:37:58] Erik: But then also we got the Granite Gear 3.5, the four various seal line bags.
[0:37:59 – 0:38:01] Erik: Yeah, that’s the other little like, you know.
[0:38:02 – 0:38:03] Erik: Bags within the bags.
[0:38:03 – 0:38:04] Adam: Bags within the bags.
[0:38:05 – 0:38:06] Adam: It’s a whole other layer.
[0:38:08 – 0:38:10] Erik: Yeah, next week, what kind of bags are you putting in your bags?
[0:38:11 – 0:38:12] Erik: Yeah, that’s right.
[0:38:12 – 0:38:13] Erik: I got bags in my bags.
[0:38:15 – 0:38:22] Adam: I want to get an S37 Trillion Hibernaculum dry bag to go in my Whipsnake.
[0:38:22 – 0:38:25] Erik: Yeah, what kind of Hibernaculum stuff do you have in that Whipsnake?
[0:38:25 – 0:38:25] Erik: Venom pouch.
[0:38:26 – 0:38:31] Adam: I need Venom pouch technology, Eric.
[0:38:31 – 0:38:32] Erik: Whipsnake.
[0:38:34 – 0:38:37] Erik: Uh, then, uh, Scotty Baldwin goes on.
[0:38:37 – 0:38:41] Erik: If I had to do it all over again, I wouldn’t purchase anything except custom sewing.
[0:38:42 – 0:38:42] Erik: All right.
[0:38:42 – 0:38:43] Erik: Dan stuff is the best out there.
[0:38:44 – 0:38:52] Erik: The old saying by once cry once doesn’t even apply as much as so much value in the CCS products that they are worth their weight in gold.
[0:38:53 – 0:39:07] Erik: Yeah, I found that my experiences at Clearwater with 10 to – between 10 and 15 years of pack purchasing and sending out of gear.
[0:39:08 – 0:39:14] Erik: I don’t know if there’s another job out there that would elucidate packs –
[0:39:16 – 0:39:19] Erik: qualities, or lack thereof, better than an outfitter.
[0:39:20 – 0:39:21] Erik: Yeah, scrubbing packs.
[0:39:21 – 0:39:24] Erik: Yeah, it’s all you’re doing is you’re sending them out, you’re seeing them.
[0:39:24 – 0:39:27] Erik: You’re sending them out, then you see them, and you clean them, and you’re inspecting them.
[0:39:27 – 0:39:28] Adam: Hose them down.
[0:39:28 – 0:39:32] Erik: And the CCS packs, by far, were the ones that lasted the longest.
[0:39:32 – 0:39:41] Erik: And unfortunately, I did notice the Granite Gear packs over there, like my last few years at Clearwater, those were…
[0:39:43 – 0:39:58] Erik: I was a little worried before I ended up moving on from that outfitting position that I was like, I don’t know if I can buy these granite gear packs anymore because some of them weren’t making it through a season.
[0:39:59 – 0:40:03] Adam: Yeah, people are rough on them, but that’s the job of an outfitter pack.
[0:40:03 – 0:40:13] Erik: Yeah, exactly, but I never had anything outside of full-blown bear mauling events where a CCS pack came back damaged.
[0:40:13 – 0:40:17] Adam: Yeah, I think our granite pack is the one that’s got the shoulder strap that’s a little iffy.
[0:40:18 – 0:40:19] Erik: And that’s what was happening to them.
[0:40:19 – 0:40:21] Adam: It’s the shoulder connectors.
[0:40:21 – 0:40:25] Erik: I mean, people are a little rough on stuff, especially rented gear.
[0:40:25 – 0:40:31] Erik: But, you know, that’s like the most crucial part of the pack is that shoulder strap.
[0:40:32 – 0:40:38] Erik: That thing needs to be like quadruple like padded and like patched and like heavily stitched, whatever.
[0:40:38 – 0:40:44] Erik: I’m not a, I’m no seamstress, but I know that that’s like, yeah, that’s where everybody’s going to grab.
[0:40:44 – 0:40:46] Adam: Yeah, this is a phantom thread scenario.
[0:40:46 – 0:40:48] Adam: That’s where you need to put your best thread.
[0:40:49 – 0:41:07] Erik: exactly uh yeah so yeah your name on the inside of the pack i definitely do shoulder straps that the uh the the value is in in my experience in the cook custom selling products so how many different ccs packs are out there you think
[0:41:09 – 0:41:12] Erik: I mean, Scotty Baldwin listed four different ones.
[0:41:12 – 0:41:20] Erik: I mean, we’ve got the four, three, and then just recently with the Bear Barrels, that’s like one of my favorite packs of all time.
[0:41:20 – 0:41:22] Erik: That thing’s excellent.
[0:41:22 – 0:41:24] Erik: The barrel slides right in the sleeve.
[0:41:24 – 0:41:24] Erik: It’s not loose.
[0:41:24 – 0:41:24] Erik: Perfect.
[0:41:24 – 0:41:25] Adam: You don’t have to wrestle it in there.
[0:41:26 – 0:41:29] Erik: And you don’t have all those side straps that are kind of coming off awkwardly.
[0:41:29 – 0:41:34] Erik: So you’re like halfway across a portage and then the whole thing starts skewing off to one side.
[0:41:34 – 0:41:36] Erik: And then you’ve got a real whipsnake situation.
[0:41:36 – 0:41:41] Adam: You can try and wrassle a snake on the portage.
[0:41:41 – 0:41:42] Adam: You don’t want to.
[0:41:42 – 0:41:50] Erik: Yeah, you get autoscoliosis if you just let one of those straps go loose on one side and you’re skewed off with a 70-pound food barrel.
[0:41:50 – 0:41:52] Adam: You got the big old top pack.
[0:41:53 – 0:41:56] Adam: You can put all sorts of stuff in the lid, too.
[0:41:56 – 0:41:57] Erik: I love that top pack lid.
[0:41:57 – 0:42:02] Erik: That’s just like day use because you always are like, well, we should keep something on the top of the pack for easy access.
[0:42:02 – 0:42:04] Adam: Top packed on top of packs.
[0:42:04 – 0:42:13] Erik: But then if you have like the big three strap, like number three or four, whoever, you still got to like unbuckle three things, un-cinch a thing, pull it out.
[0:42:13 – 0:42:20] Erik: But with that food pack sleeve, it’s just like one zipper and you’ve got access to your cave of wonders.
[0:42:20 – 0:42:22] Adam: All your wildest dreams are coming true in the cave of wonders.
[0:42:23 – 0:42:25] Adam: You might see some snakes in there too.
[0:42:25 – 0:42:29] Adam: Next up on the show, dear friend of the show, DirtyDodBod523, 35 days ago.
[0:42:29 – 0:42:30] Adam: Pew, pew, pew.
[0:42:33 – 0:42:50] Adam: I have two primary portage packs that I utilize with liners, a CCS number 4, the traditional envelope, to accommodate oversized items like a large tent, pads, etc., and a CCS Pioneer pack, which fits most of my kitchen and miscellaneous supplies.
[0:42:50 – 0:42:58] Adam: The number 4 isn’t particularly comfy, but it’s the only bag that can fit pretty much anything you throw at it, and it fits well in the boat.
[0:42:59 – 0:43:13] Adam: We also bring one to two traditional hiking packs of 25 to 35 liter in size that are great for additional things such as tackle boxes, personal items, hammocks, and other knickknacks that can be useful to easily grab while on the trail or on the water.
[0:43:13 – 0:43:14] Adam: There you go.
[0:43:16 – 0:43:17] Adam: Easy access is the key.
[0:43:18 – 0:43:18] Erik: Knickknacks.
[0:43:19 – 0:43:22] Adam: What was the hybrid pack that Scotty Baldwin was talking about?
[0:43:22 – 0:43:23] Adam: Do you know what that is all about?
[0:43:24 – 0:43:25] Adam: I don’t, actually.
[0:43:26 – 0:43:28] Adam: What’s the CCS hybrid pack all about?
[0:43:28 – 0:43:28] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:43:28 – 0:43:32] Erik: I think maybe there was a link that we could have gone to.
[0:43:32 – 0:43:35] Erik: Maybe it’s just another link to Steve Clymer.
[0:43:35 – 0:43:36] Erik: Steve Clymer.
[0:43:36 – 0:43:37] Erik: Oh, no, we got Clymered.
[0:43:40 – 0:43:41] Erik: Yeah, we’ll see if we can find it here.
[0:43:41 – 0:43:46] Adam: I can’t believe you wore the crevasse in front of all them Boy Scouts on the Eddie Falls Portage like that.
[0:43:46 – 0:43:47] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:43:48 – 0:43:49] Erik: Those boys learned a thing or two that day.
[0:43:50 – 0:43:53] Adam: They learned a thing or two about that’s what a man looks like on a portage, son.
[0:43:54 – 0:43:57] Erik: In front of all their dads, too.
[0:43:58 – 0:44:01] Adam: Their dads are all wearing baggy mesh shorts.
[0:44:02 – 0:44:04] Adam: They’re on the track team, track team coaching staff.
[0:44:06 – 0:44:11] Erik: Did you rank that, what is it, a quantum camper, space camper?
[0:44:11 – 0:44:14] Adam: Space camper from Boulevard, quantum hop IPA.
[0:44:15 – 0:44:17] Adam: I give it a 10 out of 10.
[0:44:17 – 0:44:20] Adam: I’m ranking them on easy street.
[0:44:20 – 0:44:21] Adam: I’m in pure summer mode right now.
[0:44:21 – 0:44:22] Adam: Everything’s a 10 out of 10.
[0:44:23 – 0:44:47] Erik: you’re on easy street oh okay yeah so it’s a hybrid pack it looks just like a regular duluth pack except it’s got a little bit more flared to it it’s got uh i think it’s got kind of what we’re talking about with the the food barrel sleeve that has the cave of wonders on top it’s got like a little extra zipper for easy access to the knickknacks okay the knickknacks so it’s not wildly different
[0:44:48 – 0:44:49] Adam: Yeah, it comes in fun colors, too.
[0:44:50 – 0:44:52] Erik: Green, blue, and red.
[0:44:52 – 0:44:53] Adam: I’ll still go with the classic green.
[0:44:54 – 0:44:55] Erik: Gotta go classic green.
[0:44:56 – 0:44:58] Adam: Yeah, that green is unmistakable.
[0:44:59 – 0:44:59] Erik: Yeah.
[0:45:00 – 0:45:02] Erik: You can read another one a little bit longer there for you.
[0:45:03 – 0:45:04] SPEAKER_04: Thank you.
[0:45:04 – 0:45:08] Adam: Next up on Tumble Home, Pack Rankers.
[0:45:09 – 0:45:10] Adam: I think new to the show.
[0:45:11 – 0:45:13] Adam: Welcome, first-time caller, ComprehensiveAnt81.
[0:45:13 – 0:45:14] Adam: 35 days ago.
[0:45:16 – 0:45:28] Adam: When I was younger, we would just use whatever we had, which was a mix of backpacking packs, double normal school backpacks, front and back, and an assortment of items bungee corded to the outside.
[0:45:28 – 0:45:36] Adam: We also had an absolute beast of a fishing canoe with a pool noodle and duct tape yoke pads that made our other aluminum feel like a Kevlar.
[0:45:37 – 0:45:40] Adam: At the time, we didn’t know any better and had a blast using whatever we had.
[0:45:41 – 0:45:46] Adam: But back then, I also didn’t need the preemptive strike of ibuprofen before a long portage.
[0:45:47 – 0:45:57] Adam: These days, we have a mixed bag of a couple Granite Gear portage packs, a classic Duluth pack, a portage pack made from someone in Ely that I can’t remember off the top of my head.
[0:45:58 – 0:46:01] Adam: And one of the blue barrels for food with a granite gear harness for it.
[0:46:02 – 0:46:08] Adam: Each pack has a poly liner, about six bucks each, which has worked just fine for waterproofing everything inside.
[0:46:09 – 0:46:13] Adam: Even on river trips when we’re dropping the bags on shallow dams, so the bottom is resting in water.
[0:46:14 – 0:46:19] Adam: We just twist the top and use small bungee to keep the top closed for rainy days.
[0:46:19 – 0:46:23] Adam: Key items like electronics and sleeping bags are also inside dry bags.
[0:46:24 – 0:46:25] Adam: There we go, the bags within the bags.
[0:46:25 – 0:46:27] Erik: Bag within a bag within a bag.
[0:46:28 – 0:46:32] Adam: Every year there’s usually a liner that gets a little hole in it, but most make it multiple years and they’re cheap.
[0:46:33 – 0:46:34] Adam: Plus the holes are always found.
[0:46:34 – 0:46:38] Adam: The following year when testing the liners for holes, never had an issue on the trip itself.
[0:46:40 – 0:46:45] Adam: As for the packs, the Granite Gear are the workhorses just because they have the most padding and support.
[0:46:46 – 0:46:57] Adam: The Dooth Pack is 10 times better with a tump line and no waist trap, but you still need to pack it more strategically since it doesn’t have any padding.
[0:46:57 – 0:46:57] Adam: Yeah.
[0:46:58 – 0:47:01] Adam: And the custom one from Ely is the happy medium between those two.
[0:47:02 – 0:47:06] Adam: I will say our blue food barrel with the granite gear harness does a great job of carrying weight.
[0:47:07 – 0:47:11] Adam: It can be the heaviest pack at the start of the trip, but it doesn’t feel like it on the actual portage.
[0:47:12 – 0:47:14] Adam: Thank you for the comment.
[0:47:15 – 0:47:16] Adam: And welcome to Tumble Home.
[0:47:16 – 0:47:17] Adam: Comprehensive Ant.
[0:47:18 – 0:47:21] Erik: I’m wondering if the company out of Ely is Condo’s.
[0:47:22 – 0:47:43] Erik: maybe it’s those yeah i think that’s those k-o-n-d-o-s i believe that is uh what arrows collar is a condos yeah i know they make a lot of dog sled i got dog product they got dog harnesses um i think it’s mostly dogging stuff she had a little puppy harness when she was little and that was from them too
[0:47:44 – 0:47:51] Erik: But they definitely have pack items with that same kind of like heavy-ish, you know, CCS material.
[0:47:51 – 0:47:52] Erik: That’s out of Ely.
[0:47:52 – 0:47:53] Erik: I think it’s Condos.
[0:47:53 – 0:47:54] Adam: There you go.
[0:47:54 – 0:47:55] Adam: Solved it.
[0:47:55 – 0:47:57] Erik: Solved on the fly.
[0:48:00 – 0:48:00] Erik: Yeah, Tumpline.
[0:48:02 – 0:48:09] Erik: I mean, I’ve never tested this in the field, but I don’t know if I necessarily, if I get too much out of the waist, the hip strap.
[0:48:10 – 0:48:10] Erik: Yeah.
[0:48:10 – 0:48:15] Erik: It’s like a little bit more, I don’t even know what it would be like equated to.
[0:48:15 – 0:48:21] Erik: It’s almost just like you just expect it to have the hip strap.
[0:48:22 – 0:48:23] Erik: I don’t know if it really does too much for me.
[0:48:24 – 0:48:25] Erik: It’s like it’s there.
[0:48:25 – 0:48:26] Erik: I might as well use it.
[0:48:26 – 0:48:27] Erik: But if I don’t have it.
[0:48:27 – 0:48:30] Adam: At what rodage are you engaging the hip strap?
[0:48:30 – 0:48:40] Erik: Yeah, I guess there is a little bit, if you really ratchet it down and kind of like reverse, like pop the butt out, you can kind of get like a mild sense of some relief off the back.
[0:48:41 – 0:48:42] Erik: But I feel like that’s what the tump line would do.
[0:48:42 – 0:48:44] Adam: Yeah, no, it’s not for that.
[0:48:44 – 0:48:46] Adam: It’s just to keep it from rolling back and forth.
[0:48:47 – 0:48:47] Erik: From whipping too much?
[0:48:47 – 0:48:49] Adam: Yeah, you don’t whip that snake.
[0:48:49 – 0:48:51] Adam: You want to control the snake.
[0:48:51 – 0:48:55] Adam: And the hip belt usually, for me, keeps it like a little bit more controlled in the back.
[0:48:56 – 0:48:57] Erik: Yeah, control the snake.
[0:48:57 – 0:48:57] Adam: But I don’t know.
[0:48:57 – 0:49:01] Adam: I’d say anything over 150 is when I’m like, I guess I’ll snap the…
[0:49:01 – 0:49:05] Adam: I’m way more apt to snap the one that goes across the chest.
[0:49:05 – 0:49:06] Erik: The chest buckle.
[0:49:06 – 0:49:07] Adam: The chest buckle is the key.
[0:49:07 – 0:49:14] Adam: But if it’s going above 150 on the rods, then that’s, I think, when I will actually engage the hip strap.
[0:49:15 – 0:49:16] Adam: Otherwise, I just leave it loose.
[0:49:16 – 0:49:17] Adam: Don’t need it.
[0:49:17 – 0:49:27] Erik: Yeah, I think the chest buckle that keeps the two shoulder straps together is crucial when you’re not taking off the Stohlquist, the PFD.
[0:49:27 – 0:49:30] Adam: True, I generally do portage with my Stohlquist on.
[0:49:30 – 0:49:36] Erik: So do I. I feel like it’s nice because, like one of the previous commenters said,
[0:49:36 – 0:49:39] Erik: Yeah, some of those packs, it’s just nothing back there.
[0:49:39 – 0:49:40] Erik: There’s no padding.
[0:49:40 – 0:49:46] Erik: So if you got a double broiler back there poking you in the kidney.
[0:49:46 – 0:49:47] Erik: Yeah, you got to think about that.
[0:49:47 – 0:49:49] Adam: You got to think about that when you’re packing.
[0:49:49 – 0:49:50] Erik: Totally, yeah.
[0:49:50 – 0:49:52] Erik: The order of the pack.
[0:49:52 – 0:49:55] Erik: Yeah, if you leave the PFD on, you get a little bonus padding.
[0:49:55 – 0:49:56] Erik: Yeah, you do.
[0:49:56 – 0:50:00] Erik: It does make it a little bit more of a struggle to get the pack on sometimes.
[0:50:01 – 0:50:04] Erik: Get your arm in that shoulder hole.
[0:50:04 – 0:50:06] Erik: That can be a real struggle to find.
[0:50:06 – 0:50:06] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:50:06 – 0:50:08] Adam: I’m just picturing the whipsnake again.
[0:50:08 – 0:50:13] Adam: I’m going to fall asleep picturing the whipsnake.
[0:50:13 – 0:50:15] Adam: Yeah, I’m going to wake up in the night.
[0:50:18 – 0:50:18] Erik: Whoa.
[0:50:19 – 0:50:20] Erik: See a shadow of a whipsnake.
[0:50:20 – 0:50:21] Adam: Steve Klammer, is that you?
[0:50:21 – 0:50:22] Erik: Steve?
[0:50:22 – 0:50:23] Erik: Are you there?
[0:50:24 – 0:50:25] Erik: Are you wearing Le Crevasse?
[0:50:27 – 0:50:28] Adam: I’m going to the beach tomorrow.
[0:50:28 – 0:50:30] Adam: I’m definitely going to get out the Le Crevasse.
[0:50:30 – 0:50:31] Erik: You never have to wash them.
[0:50:31 – 0:50:32] Erik: Is it a private beach?
[0:50:33 – 0:50:33] Adam: Nope.
[0:50:34 – 0:50:36] Erik: It’s the most public beach in town.
[0:50:36 – 0:50:38] Erik: The most public.
[0:50:38 – 0:50:39] Adam: The most public possible.
[0:50:40 – 0:50:41] Adam: We got the most public.
[0:50:42 – 0:50:43] Adam: Time for the Le Crevasse.
[0:50:43 – 0:51:07] Erik: perfect timing existence is futile four i use the username yes i don’t know is that new i think so welcome to the show welcome one of us existence is futile four four apparently there was three others before him or them i use the seal line sea line seal line
[0:51:07 – 0:51:08] Adam: I don’t know on that one.
[0:51:08 – 0:51:09] Adam: Don’t ask me.
[0:51:09 – 0:51:11] Adam: I can’t say alumna craft, right?
[0:51:11 – 0:51:12] Adam: So it’s definitely sea lion.
[0:51:13 – 0:51:14] Erik: Sea lion?
[0:51:14 – 0:51:14] Adam: Seal lion.
[0:51:15 – 0:51:16] Adam: Seal lion.
[0:51:17 – 0:51:18] Erik: Seal lion?
[0:51:18 – 0:51:20] Adam: Yeah, it is technically seal lion.
[0:51:20 – 0:51:21] Erik: It is seal lion.
[0:51:21 – 0:51:23] Adam: But I always want to say just sea lion.
[0:51:23 – 0:51:25] Erik: Double L. Seal lion.
[0:51:25 – 0:51:26] Adam: Seal lion.
[0:51:27 – 0:51:29] Erik: The pro dry pack, that’s one of these babies.
[0:51:29 – 0:51:31] Adam: Oh, that is big.
[0:51:31 – 0:51:32] Adam: Yikes.
[0:51:32 – 0:51:35] Erik: Yeah, you could get a new set of tires for one of those things.
[0:51:36 – 0:51:37] Adam: If you can, I don’t know.
[0:51:37 – 0:51:39] Adam: Maybe if you find a good deal.
[0:51:40 – 0:51:42] Adam: Either way, that’s a lot of coin.
[0:51:42 – 0:51:43] Erik: It’s a lot of coin for that thing.
[0:51:44 – 0:51:44] Adam: For a pack.
[0:51:44 – 0:51:45] Adam: It’s keeping everything dry, though.
[0:51:45 – 0:51:46] Erik: I guess it is.
[0:51:46 – 0:51:53] Erik: It’s basically just like the big rubberized roll top.
[0:51:53 – 0:51:58] Erik: It’s basically like one of the small packs that you put inside the pack, except it is the pack.
[0:51:58 – 0:51:59] Adam: It’s the pack itself.
[0:52:00 – 0:52:00] Erik: Yes.
[0:52:00 – 0:52:02] Erik: It’s like a reverse Russian doll situation.
[0:52:02 – 0:52:03] Adam: Exactly.
[0:52:03 – 0:52:04] Erik: Everybody knows what I’m talking about.
[0:52:04 – 0:52:05] Adam: Everybody follows.
[0:52:07 – 0:52:09] Erik: It has proper support for your back.
[0:52:10 – 0:52:10] Erik: That’s it.
[0:52:11 – 0:52:12] Erik: Yeah.
[0:52:12 – 0:52:14] Erik: I mean, we used to have a couple of those laying around.
[0:52:15 – 0:52:20] Erik: Well, we got an exhausted Horty here with a comment kind of echoing the same thing.
[0:52:20 – 0:52:20] Erik: 110 liter.
[0:52:20 – 0:52:22] Erik: It’s not a 77 trillion, but you know.
[0:52:22 – 0:52:22] Erik: 110?
[0:52:22 – 0:52:23] Erik: 110 liter seal line.
[0:52:23 – 0:52:23] Erik: Seal line.
[0:52:29 – 0:52:33] Erik: Back-to-back commenters spelling it incorrectly according to the website.
[0:52:33 – 0:52:35] Erik: They have dropped one of the L’s.
[0:52:35 – 0:52:36] Erik: They both went with C line.
[0:52:37 – 0:52:38] Adam: I finished my beer.
[0:52:38 – 0:52:39] Adam: Okay.
[0:52:39 – 0:52:41] Adam: Thank you, Bob Ross.
[0:52:41 – 0:52:43] Adam: The delightful painting.
[0:52:43 – 0:52:44] Erik: Delightful painting, yes.
[0:52:44 – 0:52:46] Adam: And this is a very heavy-duty beer.
[0:52:46 – 0:52:47] Erik: Yeah, my God.
[0:52:48 – 0:52:49] Erik: Is that the Riddler on that can?
[0:52:50 – 0:52:51] SPEAKER_04: It’s a Borg.
[0:52:51 – 0:52:52] Erik: It’s a Borg.
[0:52:52 – 0:52:53] Adam: It’s a Borg Riddler.
[0:52:55 – 0:52:56] Erik: Exhausted Horty here.
[0:52:56 – 0:52:57] Erik: Sorry, we will give you proper shrift.
[0:52:57 – 0:52:58] Erik: Horty, take the wheel.
[0:52:58 – 0:53:00] Erik: Horty, take the wheel.
[0:53:01 – 0:53:01] Erik: Help!
[0:53:02 – 0:53:13] Erik: They got one 110 liter seal line, sea line, backpack, dry bag that fits all our essentials, then a 60 liter blue barrel for food and things we want easier access to.
[0:53:13 – 0:53:23] Erik: Also have a 30 liter dry bag with backpack straps that we use if it’s going to be a longer trip and we want a day trip or if we brought extra items for the luxury.
[0:53:24 – 0:53:25] Adam: For the luxury?
[0:53:25 – 0:53:26] Adam: For the luxury.
[0:53:26 – 0:53:28] Adam: Oh, for the luxury.
[0:53:29 – 0:53:33] Adam: For the luxury.
[0:53:33 – 0:53:34] Adam: I want to do some luxurious.
[0:53:35 – 0:53:36] Erik: Oh, luxurious.
[0:53:37 – 0:53:37] Erik: Here we go.
[0:53:37 – 0:53:39] Erik: A third comment in a row.
[0:53:40 – 0:53:42] Erik: Talking seal line.
[0:53:44 – 0:54:01] Adam: uh next up on the show dear friend of the show p quad c pod 35 days ago this comment this thread was on fire 35 days ago where was where were we a month ago the peg me creek of comment threads over here i use it’s it’s making a run eric
[0:54:02 – 0:54:05] Erik: It’s an epic run like we’ve never seen.
[0:54:05 – 0:54:08] Adam: This comment thread went 14 miles in one afternoon.
[0:54:08 – 0:54:15] Adam: I use a 70 liter seal line dry bag with backpack straps when I’m alone.
[0:54:15 – 0:54:21] Adam: That was an interesting tone there.
[0:54:21 – 0:54:22] Adam: When I’m alone.
[0:54:26 – 0:54:29] Adam: Every day now, every day now.
[0:54:30 – 0:54:41] Adam: In a medium-sized CCS Duluth-style pack, not sure on the liters when it’s me and my wife, the CCS pack is more comfortable than it really needs to be for most portages I encounter.
[0:54:42 – 0:54:46] Adam: The Seal Lion pack holds a lot, but it’s a lot more narrow and feels more stable.
[0:54:47 – 0:54:56] Adam: The straps aren’t as wide and don’t have a hip belt, but I rarely notice it’s on for under 100-rod portages.
[0:54:56 – 0:54:57] Adam: There we go.
[0:54:57 – 0:54:58] Adam: We’re all on the same page here.
[0:54:59 – 0:55:06] Adam: Plus, I’m usually carrying our 58-pound canoe, so the pack is the lesser of my sources of discomfort.
[0:55:07 – 0:55:13] Adam: Overall, I like both bags a lot, and which I’d prefer to use really depends on the trip I’m taking.
[0:55:13 – 0:55:14] Adam: Yeah, thank you.
[0:55:14 – 0:55:15] Adam: Truer words.
[0:55:16 – 0:55:17] Adam: Truer, truer words.
[0:55:19 – 0:55:27] Adam: We have a short one here from a dear friend of the show, Faz Mata, next up, also 35 days ago, with five boxes of wine.
[0:55:28 – 0:55:31] Adam: I have a CCS Guide and a CCS Explorer.
[0:55:31 – 0:55:38] Adam: I use them on group trips, but when I’m solo, I often just use my granite gear blazer.
[0:55:38 – 0:55:39] Erik: Ooh, wow.
[0:55:40 – 0:55:40] Erik: I didn’t realize.
[0:55:40 – 0:55:41] Erik: Granite gear blaze?
[0:55:41 – 0:55:43] Erik: Granite gear had such.
[0:55:43 – 0:55:44] Adam: That one’s got the pump.
[0:55:45 – 0:55:46] Adam: You got to pump it up.
[0:55:47 – 0:55:49] Adam: Has anybody done the LA gear pump?
[0:55:49 – 0:55:51] Erik: I was going to say, does it have lights when you moved on the portage?
[0:55:51 – 0:55:52] Adam: Yeah.
[0:55:52 – 0:55:53] Adam: When are they going to do that?
[0:55:53 – 0:55:54] Adam: Yeah.
[0:55:54 – 0:55:55] Adam: Lit backpacks.
[0:55:55 – 0:55:59] Erik: Yeah, the little button on the side where you just… Pump it up.
[0:56:00 – 0:56:02] Erik: Add a little padding depending on where you need it.
[0:56:02 – 0:56:06] Adam: Yeah, what are they going to… What are they… Was it just called the Reebok pump?
[0:56:07 – 0:56:07] Erik: I think so, yeah.
[0:56:08 – 0:56:10] Adam: Pump, pump, pump it up.
[0:56:10 – 0:56:13] Erik: Why are those not back and or LA Gears?
[0:56:13 – 0:56:15] Adam: The LA Gear pumps squeak too much.
[0:56:16 – 0:56:17] Erik: They’re just too squeaky?
[0:56:17 – 0:56:19] Erik: Those are the ones with the lights, right?
[0:56:19 – 0:56:19] Erik: Remember?
[0:56:19 – 0:56:20] Erik: They lit up?
[0:56:20 – 0:56:22] Adam: Well, they had them with or without lights, I think.
[0:56:24 – 0:56:26] Adam: Either way, that’s a lot of… Why would you get them without lights?
[0:56:26 – 0:56:26] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:56:27 – 0:56:27] Adam: That’s silly.
[0:56:28 – 0:56:31] Adam: Pump up, put a bunch of air in there, and have the razzle dazzle.
[0:56:31 – 0:56:32] Adam: That’s the LA… What is it?
[0:56:32 – 0:56:32] Adam: LA Gear?
[0:56:36 – 0:56:36] Erik: LA Gear.
[0:56:36 – 0:56:39] Adam: There’s also a moose company called LA Looks.
[0:56:40 – 0:56:43] Adam: There’s a lot of LA branding going on in the mid-90s.
[0:56:43 – 0:56:44] Erik: I was like, moose company?
[0:56:44 – 0:56:45] Erik: What are you talking about?
[0:56:45 – 0:56:47] Adam: Hair Promenades.
[0:56:47 – 0:56:49] SPEAKER_04: M-O-U-S-S-E?
[0:56:49 – 0:56:50] Adam: I’m a dapper damn man.
[0:56:50 – 0:56:51] Adam: I don’t want fop.
[0:56:54 – 0:57:20] Adam: uh yeah la la looks was the best moose if you wanted to do like a slick back look yeah with your cool or maybe a like a mohawk or just spiky hair sure you want to get that hard shell hard spikes that hair shell going the helmet the wet looking hair helmet hair helmet it was so hot in the early 2000s late 90s la gear hard hair hair helmets out there come on la gear is so hot right now bring it back
[0:57:21 – 0:57:27] Adam: Next up on the show, dear friend of the show, Admiral Geary, 35 days ago, five boxes of wine.
[0:57:28 – 0:57:32] Adam: I’m a big fan of the Frost River Isle Royale, the big version.
[0:57:33 – 0:57:34] Erik: Ooh.
[0:57:34 – 0:57:35] Erik: Ooh.
[0:57:35 – 0:57:37] Adam: Can I just say I’m going to restart it over?
[0:57:37 – 0:57:41] Adam: I’m a big fan of the Frost River Isle Royale, the big version.
[0:57:42 – 0:57:43] Erik: I’ll take the biggins.
[0:57:44 – 0:57:45] Adam: Oh, I want them biggins.
[0:57:45 – 0:57:51] Adam: I have been using a Seal Line Pro Pack 115 for over a decade.
[0:57:51 – 0:57:51] Adam: There we go.
[0:57:52 – 0:57:54] Adam: I have to look into these seal packs.
[0:57:55 – 0:57:56] Erik: You don’t need to look into them.
[0:57:56 – 0:57:57] Erik: You know exactly what they are.
[0:57:57 – 0:57:58] Adam: I think I have one, actually.
[0:57:58 – 0:57:58] Adam: Yeah.
[0:57:58 – 0:58:04] Adam: I think my orange, my new pack that I got, my new stuff sack is, I think, seal line.
[0:58:04 – 0:58:16] Erik: I think any of my sub packs that go in the Duluth bags, whether they’re CCS or Granite Gear or whatever, they’re all seal line or a variation of that varietal.
[0:58:16 – 0:58:17] Erik: Where’s seal line out of?
[0:58:17 – 0:58:18] Erik: Are they Australian?
[0:58:19 – 0:58:20] Erik: Or is that Sea to Summit?
[0:58:20 – 0:58:22] Adam: Yeah, I’ve had Sea to Summit, too.
[0:58:22 – 0:58:23] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:58:23 – 0:58:25] Adam: See, that’s a different company.
[0:58:25 – 0:58:26] Adam: Seal to Summit?
[0:58:26 – 0:58:27] Adam: Seal Summits?
[0:58:28 – 0:58:29] Adam: Leave them alone.
[0:58:29 – 0:58:31] Adam: Leave them in the sea, please.
[0:58:31 – 0:58:32] Erik: It’s where they belong.
[0:58:32 – 0:58:33] Adam: Don’t put them on a summit.
[0:58:34 – 0:58:34] Adam: That’s cruel.
[0:58:36 – 0:58:37] Adam: I’m going to roll.
[0:58:37 – 0:58:40] Adam: I’m going to do one more, and then I will pass the Baytone.
[0:58:42 – 0:58:43] Adam: I’ll pass the pack and the parcel.
[0:58:44 – 0:58:45] Adam: Next up on the show…
[0:58:47 – 0:58:50] Adam: Total ass kicker, bird dogging it 35 days ago.
[0:58:51 – 0:59:03] Adam: One Granite Gear number four, one Granite Gear Quetico, one large blue barrel, one CCS deluxe food pack with additional insulation and soft cooler inside.
[0:59:03 – 0:59:04] Adam: Now what?
[0:59:04 – 0:59:05] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:59:05 – 0:59:13] Adam: One 65 liter Sea to Summit dry bag backpack, two waterproof day packs, backpacks, fishing packs,
[0:59:14 – 0:59:19] Adam: all nestled snugly into a 16-foot prospector and can accommodate multi-week trips.
[0:59:20 – 0:59:29] Adam: Sometimes we’ll swap out the number four for another Quetico-sized bag, but for the most part, that setup has served me quite well for a very long time.
[0:59:30 – 0:59:32] Adam: Five boxes of wine, thank you for your commentary.
[0:59:32 – 0:59:33] Adam: Bird dogging it.
[0:59:34 – 0:59:36] Adam: Is the Quetico bigger than the number four?
[0:59:37 – 0:59:38] Adam: What’s the Quetico?
[0:59:38 – 0:59:40] Erik: Yeah, I think it is, technically.
[0:59:40 – 0:59:42] Adam: You’ll swap out another Quetico.
[0:59:44 – 0:59:46] Adam: The Quetico is not quite a five then?
[0:59:46 – 0:59:48] Adam: Does anybody make a five?
[0:59:48 – 0:59:50] Adam: It’s just too big for the canoe then.
[0:59:51 – 0:59:53] Erik: Yeah, I don’t think the canoe could handle a five.
[0:59:54 – 0:59:55] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:59:55 – 0:59:57] Adam: It needs an auto unloader in there then.
[0:59:58 – 1:00:02] Adam: You got to have to install a new diesel motor and an auto unloader if you go up to a five.
[1:00:02 – 1:00:03] Adam: You need to get your forklift.
[1:00:03 – 1:00:06] Adam: You can barely get through the locks with that thing.
[1:00:06 – 1:00:09] Erik: Forklift certification to handle that kind of.
[1:00:09 – 1:00:11] Erik: What kind of certification?
[1:00:11 – 1:00:11] Erik: Forklift.
[1:00:11 – 1:00:12] Adam: Yeah.
[1:00:14 – 1:00:15] Adam: Absolutely.
[1:00:15 – 1:00:19] Erik: Keep your arms within the cab while driving.
[1:00:20 – 1:00:24] Adam: You don’t want to rip it off at the elbow going too hard down the portage.
[1:00:25 – 1:00:30] Erik: If you’re going to rip it off at all, you want to definitely have it ripped off below the elbow.
[1:00:31 – 1:00:31] Adam: Right.
[1:00:31 – 1:00:32] Adam: Keep the elbow.
[1:00:32 – 1:00:34] Adam: Then you can borg the end.
[1:00:34 – 1:00:36] Adam: Then you get the old borg fingers going.
[1:00:36 – 1:00:37] Erik: You borg the end.
[1:00:38 – 1:00:41] Adam: You’re just going to solder that on there and borg the end.
[1:00:41 – 1:00:42] Adam: Yeah.
[1:00:42 – 1:00:44] Adam: As long as you got the elbow to go with it, you’re fine.
[1:00:44 – 1:00:45] Erik: Yeah, as long as you have the elbow.
[1:00:45 – 1:00:46] Adam: You’ll still play disc golf again.
[1:00:47 – 1:00:48] Erik: You can borg a hand.
[1:00:48 – 1:00:49] Adam: Yeah, you lose the elbow, though.
[1:00:50 – 1:00:51] Erik: Elbows are unborgable.
[1:00:51 – 1:00:52] Adam: You’re retired.
[1:00:52 – 1:00:53] Adam: Mm-hmm.
[1:00:53 – 1:00:54] Adam: Maybe put down.
[1:00:54 – 1:00:55] Erik: Wow.
[1:00:55 – 1:00:55] Adam: What?
[1:00:55 – 1:00:57] Adam: I don’t think so.
[1:00:57 – 1:00:58] Adam: I’m sorry.
[1:00:59 – 1:01:00] Adam: Bleep that.
[1:01:00 – 1:01:00] Adam: Yeah.
[1:01:01 – 1:01:03] Erik: Uh, you did bird dogging it, man.
[1:01:03 – 1:01:04] Erik: There are a lot of comments in here.
[1:01:04 – 1:01:08] Erik: This one might be, uh, we might be closing in on the last one here.
[1:01:09 – 1:01:09] Adam: It’s a two parter.
[1:01:09 – 1:01:10] Adam: It’s a two parter.
[1:01:11 – 1:01:13] Adam: Packy one.
[1:01:13 – 1:01:14] Erik: There’s no number ones either.
[1:01:14 – 1:01:16] Erik: Why is there no number one?
[1:01:17 – 1:01:18] Adam: Is that less than a backpack?
[1:01:18 – 1:01:19] SPEAKER_04: Who decided that?
[1:01:19 – 1:01:20] SPEAKER_04: Is that like a fanny pack?
[1:01:21 – 1:01:27] Erik: I mean, I wouldn’t think so if you’re going in like overall scale of what the difference between a two to a three to a four is.
[1:01:27 – 1:01:28] Adam: Right.
[1:01:28 – 1:01:33] Erik: A one would just be like a school backpack size, maybe even a little bit bigger yet.
[1:01:33 – 1:01:34] Erik: A big backpack.
[1:01:35 – 1:01:36] Adam: What’s a fanny pack though?
[1:01:36 – 1:01:37] Adam: Why has nobody mentioned a fanny pack?
[1:01:38 – 1:01:38] Adam: 0.5, the 0.75.
[1:01:38 – 1:01:41] Erik: I mean, these numbers, I remember- Maybe a third-
[1:01:44 – 1:01:48] Erik: When I would talk to people that would come into the outfitting room who had never been on a bonjour trip.
[1:01:48 – 1:01:53] Erik: I’m like, yeah, we need some packs or whatever to put our gear.
[1:01:53 – 1:01:55] Erik: They’re like, whoa, what do you have?
[1:01:55 – 1:01:56] Erik: I’m like, well, I got the number three.
[1:01:56 – 1:01:57] Erik: What do you guys want?
[1:01:57 – 1:01:57] Erik: Four.
[1:01:57 – 1:01:59] Erik: I would just start talking to them.
[1:01:59 – 1:01:59] Erik: Right.
[1:01:59 – 1:02:00] Erik: You got the quarter pounder.
[1:02:00 – 1:02:02] Erik: They’re like, what are you talking about?
[1:02:02 – 1:02:03] Erik: I have no idea what that is.
[1:02:03 – 1:02:04] Erik: And I was like, what do you mean?
[1:02:04 – 1:02:04] Erik: Come on.
[1:02:05 – 1:02:07] Adam: But I was like, yeah, that really kind of is so…
[1:02:08 – 1:02:09] Erik: It’s a specialty measurement system.
[1:02:10 – 1:02:10] Erik: So random.
[1:02:10 – 1:02:14] Erik: It’s like they just barely figured out rods, and now I’m going to start throwing some…
[1:02:14 – 1:02:15] Erik: It’s a number four.
[1:02:15 – 1:02:16] Adam: It’s a number four pack.
[1:02:16 – 1:02:17] Erik: Come on.
[1:02:17 – 1:02:18] Erik: You don’t know how big a number four is.
[1:02:18 – 1:02:21] Adam: You’re going to want to fasten the hip belt if you go over 150 rods, of course, don’t you know?
[1:02:21 – 1:02:22] Erik: Yeah.
[1:02:22 – 1:02:25] Erik: If you’re going over 150 rods per hour, you’re definitely going to want the number four.
[1:02:26 – 1:02:29] Adam: You’re going to get out a third pan and melt a whole stick of butter in it.
[1:02:30 – 1:02:30] Erik: What are you…
[1:02:31 – 1:02:32] Erik: What are you talking about right now?
[1:02:32 – 1:02:33] Erik: Yeah, is it like pannage?
[1:02:33 – 1:02:42] Erik: Is it the sizes of pans in a kitchen that all boil down to how many of them fit in a hotel pan?
[1:02:42 – 1:02:45] Erik: Are there four Duluth packs that fit in like a barrel?
[1:02:45 – 1:02:46] Erik: I think that’s it, yeah.
[1:02:47 – 1:02:48] Erik: How big is a barrel?
[1:02:49 – 1:02:49] Erik: A bushel.
[1:02:49 – 1:02:50] Erik: How big is a bushel?
[1:02:50 – 1:02:51] Adam: 100 liter.
[1:02:51 – 1:02:52] Erik: Oh my God.
[1:02:52 – 1:02:57] Erik: It probably has like some origins that… 35 trillion ton.
[1:02:58 – 1:03:00] Erik: Whip snake.
[1:03:01 – 1:03:01] Erik: Whip.
[1:03:02 – 1:03:02] Erik: Snakes.
[1:03:03 – 1:03:03] Erik: All right.
[1:03:03 – 1:03:05] Erik: We’re going to finish with Kamboogie here.
[1:03:05 – 1:03:07] Erik: Kamboogie.
[1:03:08 – 1:03:08] Erik: CCS.
[1:03:09 – 1:03:10] Erik: Duluth Pack.
[1:03:10 – 1:03:11] Erik: Granite Gear.
[1:03:12 – 1:03:15] Erik: I just love that there’s three individual sentences.
[1:03:16 – 1:03:18] Erik: All local and worth your money.
[1:03:18 – 1:03:18] Erik: All right.
[1:03:19 – 1:03:24] Erik: What one you want really depends on you and what your needs are.
[1:03:24 – 1:03:35] Erik: Duluth packs are my favorite for wearing while also carrying a canoe because they sit lower on the back than the taller granite gear packs I have and make for more comfortable Kevlar hat wearing.
[1:03:36 – 1:03:39] Erik: I’ve seen people get out there with all kinds of stuff.
[1:03:39 – 1:03:40] Adam: All kinds of things.
[1:03:40 – 1:03:41] Erik: And then it’s this emoji.
[1:03:41 – 1:03:42] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[1:03:42 – 1:03:43] Adam: The shruggy.
[1:03:43 – 1:03:44] Adam: Shrugging.
[1:03:44 – 1:03:44] Erik: I don’t know.
[1:03:44 – 1:03:45] Erik: I don’t know.
[1:03:45 – 1:03:46] Erik: Am I right?
[1:03:48 – 1:04:14] Erik: politics am i right oh yeah yeah no that’s basically a great place to end because uh it’s all about where it sits on the thorax yeah i’ve seen people get out there with all kinds of stuff that’s exactly how i kind of feel it’s like i don’t know whatever yeah yeah whatever you got really depends on you and what your needs are we’re not gonna judge anybody unless it’s straight up just garbage bags or quick trip bags yeah oh yeah if it’s a quick trip bag oh no
[1:04:14 – 1:04:17] Adam: Yeah, don’t be the person bringing bagged milk on a trip.
[1:04:18 – 1:04:18] Erik: Well.
[1:04:20 – 1:04:20] Adam: Or do.
[1:04:20 – 1:04:20] Erik: Or do.
[1:04:23 – 1:04:23] Erik: Quiche?
[1:04:23 – 1:04:24] Erik: Don’t be that man.
[1:04:24 – 1:04:25] Erik: Quiche?
[1:04:25 – 1:04:26] Erik: Don’t be that man.
[1:04:26 – 1:04:27] Adam: Camp a quiche?
[1:04:28 – 1:04:29] Adam: I got the crevasse.
[1:04:31 – 1:04:37] Adam: If you walk up to somebody wearing a light crevasse serving you a camp quiche, tell me you wouldn’t be impressed because I know you would be.
[1:04:37 – 1:04:38] Adam: Serving me a camp quiche?
[1:04:38 – 1:04:39] Adam: Camp quiche, buddy.
[1:04:42 – 1:04:43] Adam: My name’s Jeep.
[1:04:43 – 1:04:44] Erik: I got you a camp quiche.
[1:04:44 – 1:04:45] Erik: My name’s Jeep.
[1:04:45 – 1:04:46] Erik: It’s Jeep’s quiches.
[1:04:47 – 1:04:49] Erik: Jeep’s quiche.
[1:04:50 – 1:04:52] Erik: Someday this will all be prairie.
[1:04:53 – 1:05:22] Adam: yeah you’re right jeep wait who am i the heck now all right well thanks for the thread uh it’s gonna be a lot of fun thank you especially to cheap dancer for the delightful video that still has this giggling go check it out and of course thank you to dear friend of the show bob ross paddler you’re uh very artistic and uh eric is still weeping at the he’s still just holding he’s been holding the painting these and
[1:05:22 – 1:05:25] Erik: My right arm is very numb.
[1:05:25 – 1:05:26] Erik: You never put it down.
[1:05:26 – 1:05:30] Erik: I’ve just been holding it out for the right and looking over every once in a while.
[1:05:30 – 1:05:35] Adam: The KP index is reverberating at at least a seven and a half right now.
[1:05:36 – 1:05:39] Adam: It’s just rippling off the ionosphere in Eric’s hand there.
[1:05:39 – 1:05:41] Adam: It’s very lively, very lifelike.
[1:05:42 – 1:05:43] Erik: It’s rippling.
[1:05:43 – 1:05:44] Adam: I love it.
[1:05:44 – 1:05:44] Adam: Yeah.
[1:05:45 – 1:05:45] Adam: It’s great.
[1:05:46 – 1:05:46] Adam: Thank you.
[1:05:46 – 1:05:49] Adam: And also thank you for the 9.5 beers.
[1:05:49 – 1:05:54] Adam: I was good and I only managed to drink one of them during this episode and I can still read and see.
[1:05:55 – 1:05:55] Erik: Yeah.
[1:05:55 – 1:05:56] Adam: It’s great.
[1:05:57 – 1:05:57] Adam: Thank you.
[1:05:58 – 1:06:03] Adam: We will revisit this next week, I think, because our time is up.
[1:06:04 – 1:06:05] Erik: Yeah, it is for now.
[1:06:05 – 1:06:06] Erik: It’s limited and it’s up.
[1:06:07 – 1:06:10] Erik: We’ve got just, you know, it’s that time of year.
[1:06:12 – 1:06:18] Erik: Time keeps on slipping, as our old fine friends, the Eagles, I think, once said.
[1:06:18 – 1:06:19] Adam: Wowee.
[1:06:19 – 1:06:19] Adam: Yeah.
[1:06:20 – 1:06:21] Adam: All right.
[1:06:21 – 1:06:28] Adam: Well, let’s whipsnake our way out this shed, sir, for Tumble Home, a Boundary Waters podcast.
[1:06:30 – 1:06:32] Adam: Happy paddling and happy packing.
[1:06:33 – 1:06:34] Adam: Happy packing.
[1:06:34 – 1:06:35] Adam: Good night.
[1:06:37 – 1:06:39] SteveClymer: So that’s your backpack, huh?
[1:06:40 – 1:06:42] SteveClymer: You’ve had it for years and it’s never let you down.
[1:06:43 – 1:06:45] SteveClymer: Yeah, your old backpack is good enough, right?
[1:06:46 – 1:06:47] SteveClymer: Wrong!
[1:06:48 – 1:06:54] SteveClymer: Once again, that’s world-renowned naturalist and lecturer of the outdoors, ultimate enthusiast, Steve Clymer.
[1:06:55 – 1:06:59] SteveClymer: And this time he’s wearing the brand new Archwood FlexCheck 37 trillion…
[1:07:01 – 1:07:02] SteveClymer: Whip Snake Edition.
[1:07:02 – 1:07:03] SteveClymer: Whip Snake.
[1:07:03 – 1:07:08] SteveClymer: A pack so revolutionary you’d have to be insane to go near any trail without it.
[1:07:08 – 1:07:11] SPEAKER_04: This is Steve Clymer, Day Outdoors Ultimate Enthusiast.
[1:07:11 – 1:07:15] SPEAKER_04: I’ve always worn Archwood backpacks, whether it’s the Sass Flex Day Pack, Easy Breeze Edition,
[1:07:16 – 1:07:18] SPEAKER_04: or the classic Black Geyser.
[1:07:18 – 1:07:22] SPEAKER_04: The Flextrek 37 Trillion Whipsnake Edition is Archwood’s most responsive pack yet.
[1:07:23 – 1:07:26] SteveClymer: What about the Whipsnake Sidewinder Edition?
[1:07:27 – 1:07:28] SteveClymer: I see reason.
[1:07:28 – 1:07:43] SteveClymer: With its space-age responsive flex construction developed by NASA scientists, especially for Archwood, it’s time to intimidate your surroundings with the brand new Flextrek 37 Trillion Whipsnake Edition.
[1:07:44 – 1:07:53] SteveClymer: You’re no Steve Clymer, but Steve Clymer is, and he won’t be found anywhere without his Flextrack 37 Trillion Whipsnake Edition.
[1:07:54 – 1:07:54] SteveClymer: Whipsnake!
[1:07:54 – 1:07:55] SteveClymer: You’re smart.
[1:07:56 – 1:07:57] SteveClymer: You know what gear you need.
[1:07:58 – 1:08:05] SteveClymer: You don’t let people tell you what to do, and that’s why you always buy the Archwood Flextrack 37 Trillion Whipsnake.
[1:08:05 – 1:08:06] SteveClymer: Whipsnake!
[1:08:06 – 1:08:11] SteveClymer: You’ve been down a trail or two and you’ve seen fads come and go.
[1:08:11 – 1:08:15] SteveClymer: That’s why you always buy the latest Archwood backpack.
[1:08:15 – 1:08:17] SteveClymer: It’s called just being smart.
[1:08:18 – 1:08:21] SteveClymer: Have you ever wondered what is Steve Clymer wearing?
[1:08:22 – 1:08:27] SteveClymer: It’s from the Archwood Activewear line, the Steve Clymer collection.
[1:08:27 – 1:08:32] SteveClymer: Of course, I’m talking about the French Wedge, Le Crevasse edition.
[1:08:33 – 1:08:38] SteveClymer: Like most people, you’ve probably wished you could try on Steve’s French Wedge for yourself.
[1:08:39 – 1:08:40] SteveClymer: Le Crevasse.
[1:08:40 – 1:08:44] SteveClymer: It’s a French Wedge, so you know it never needs washing.
[1:08:45 – 1:08:46] SPEAKER_04: I wear my Whipsnake and Le Crevasse.
[1:08:49 – 1:08:53] SPEAKER_04: Sometimes the traction isn’t always secure and one’s feet may fail to gain purchase.
[1:08:54 – 1:09:04] SPEAKER_04: So it’s good to know I can count on Le Crevasse and my FlexTrack 37 Trillion Whipsnake for maneuverability, durability, and of course, comfort.
[1:09:04 – 1:09:05] SteveClymer: Go ahead.
[1:09:05 – 1:09:07] SteveClymer: Humiliate the terrain.
[1:09:07 – 1:09:09] SteveClymer: Devastate the environment.
[1:09:10 – 1:09:11] SteveClymer: You deserve it.
[1:09:11 – 1:09:17] SteveClymer: When the Whipsnake strikes, you’ll want to be the one wearing it.
[1:09:26 – 1:09:49] TumblehomeHipHop: Mm-hmm, mosh pits smell like Chanel, mm Yes, Microsoft, I’m an Excel, mm Mm-hmm, 9, 10, 11, fuck 12, mm Yes, your house lookin’ like a motel, yes Uh, I don’t play fair, well Mm-hmm, I don’t like to show you my tail, yes Uh, what is that shit I smell, me?
[1:09:51 – 1:09:51] TumblehomeHipHop: Mm-hmm.
[1:09:51 – 1:09:52] TumblehomeHipHop: I am that shit you smell.
[1:09:52 – 1:09:53] TumblehomeHipHop: Yes.
[1:09:53 – 1:09:54] TumblehomeHipHop: Mosh pits smelling like Chanel.
[1:09:55 – 1:09:56] TumblehomeHipHop: Microsoft, I’m an XL.
[1:09:57 – 1:09:58] TumblehomeHipHop: 9, 10, 11, fuck 12.
[1:09:58 – 1:10:00] TumblehomeHipHop: House looking like a motel.
[1:10:00 – 1:10:02] TumblehomeHipHop: I don’t play farewell.
[1:10:02 – 1:10:03] TumblehomeHipHop: I don’t like to show you my tail.
[1:10:04 – 1:10:05] TumblehomeHipHop: What is that shit I smell?
[1:10:05 – 1:10:07] TumblehomeHipHop: I am that shit you smell.
[1:10:07 – 1:10:08] TumblehomeHipHop: Niggas act like they don’t see you.
[1:10:08 – 1:10:10] TumblehomeHipHop: But deep down, they really wanna be you.
[1:10:10 – 1:10:11] TumblehomeHipHop: Turn this whole to Resident Evil.
[1:10:12 – 1:10:13] TumblehomeHipHop: Rocking that release from needles.
[1:10:14 – 1:10:15] TumblehomeHipHop: Pull up in a Bentley truck.
[1:10:15 – 1:10:17] TumblehomeHipHop: You pulled up in a low-ass Beetle.
[1:10:17 – 1:10:19] TumblehomeHipHop: Yeah, I like to drive so fast.
[1:10:19 – 1:10:20] TumblehomeHipHop: Feeling like the homie Vin Diesel.
[1:10:21 – 1:10:23] TumblehomeHipHop: Look, Rico is taking out the trash.
[1:10:23 – 1:10:25] TumblehomeHipHop: Download the app, it’s in the cache.
[1:10:25 – 1:10:26] TumblehomeHipHop: I don’t like to split shit in half.
[1:10:27 – 1:10:28] TumblehomeHipHop: Bitch, I need it all, else I’m mad.
[1:10:29 – 1:10:30] TumblehomeHipHop: Arm and a leg for this bag.
[1:10:30 – 1:10:32] TumblehomeHipHop: And I got a bag in a bag.
[1:10:32 – 1:10:34] TumblehomeHipHop: And another bag inside my bag.
[1:10:34 – 1:10:35] TumblehomeHipHop: That’s what’s in my bag, it’s just a bag.
[1:10:36 – 1:10:36] TumblehomeHipHop: Uh.
[1:10:37 – 1:10:37] TumblehomeHipHop: Mm-hmm.
[1:10:37 – 1:10:38] TumblehomeHipHop: Marshmallow smelling like Chanel.
[1:10:39 – 1:10:39] TumblehomeHipHop: Mm.
[1:10:40 – 1:11:00] TumblehomeHipHop: Yes, Microsoft, I’m an Excel 9, 10, 11, fuck 12 Yes, your house lookin’ like a motel I don’t play fair, well I don’t like to show you my tail What is that shit I smell?
[1:11:00 – 1:11:00] TumblehomeHipHop: Me
[1:11:02 – 1:11:02] TumblehomeHipHop: Mm-hmm.
[1:11:02 – 1:11:03] TumblehomeHipHop: I am that shit you smell.
[1:11:03 – 1:11:04] TumblehomeHipHop: Yes.
[1:11:04 – 1:11:06] TumblehomeHipHop: Marshmallows smelling like Chanel.
[1:11:06 – 1:11:07] TumblehomeHipHop: Microsoft, I’m an XL.
[1:11:07 – 1:11:09] TumblehomeHipHop: 9, 10, 11, fuck 12.
[1:11:09 – 1:11:11] TumblehomeHipHop: House looking like a motel.
[1:11:11 – 1:11:13] TumblehomeHipHop: I don’t play farewell.
[1:11:13 – 1:11:14] TumblehomeHipHop: I don’t like to show you my tail.
[1:11:15 – 1:11:16] TumblehomeHipHop: What is that shit I smell?
[1:11:16 – 1:11:18] TumblehomeHipHop: I am that shit you smell.
[1:11:18 – 1:11:19] TumblehomeHipHop: Niggas act like they don’t see you.
[1:11:19 – 1:11:21] TumblehomeHipHop: But deep down, they really want to be you.
[1:11:21 – 1:11:22] TumblehomeHipHop: Turn this whole to Resident Evil.
[1:11:23 – 1:11:24] TumblehomeHipHop: Rocking that release from needles.
[1:11:25 – 1:11:26] TumblehomeHipHop: Pull up in a Bentley truck.
[1:11:26 – 1:11:28] TumblehomeHipHop: You pulled up in a little ass Beetle.
[1:11:28 – 1:11:30] TumblehomeHipHop: Yeah, I like to drive so fast.
[1:11:30 – 1:11:31] TumblehomeHipHop: Feeling like the homie Vin Diesel.
[1:11:32 – 1:11:57] TumblehomeHipHop: Mm-hmm, marshmallows smell like Chanel, mm Yes, Microsoft, I’m an Excel, mm Mm-hmm, 9, 10, 11, fuck 12, mm Yes, your house lookin’ like a motel, yes Uh, I don’t play fair, well Mm-hmm, I don’t like to show you my tail, yes Uh, what is that shit I smell, me?
[1:11:57 – 1:12:01] TumblehomeHipHop: Mm-hmm, I am that shit you smell, yes