257: Pack Rankers II-Loose Juice Bags

Episode Transcript

[0:00:38 – 0:00:50] Erik: mind the onset welcome it’s the shed it’s late it’s after dark and my name is eric joined as always by adam
[0:00:52 – 0:00:53] Erik: Midnight Adam.
[0:00:53 – 0:00:54] Erik: Midnight Adam.
[0:00:55 – 0:00:57] Erik: I went there before I had anything queued up.
[0:00:57 – 0:00:57] Erik: I don’t know why.
[0:00:57 – 0:00:58] Erik: I’m sorry.
[0:00:59 – 0:01:00] Adam: I was there for you.
[0:01:00 – 0:01:00] Adam: Thank you.
[0:01:01 – 0:01:04] Erik: Self-proclaimed Midnight Adam.
[0:01:04 – 0:01:05] Adam: That’s a classic Midnight Adam.
[0:01:06 – 0:01:08] Adam: Yeah, that’s a classic Midnight Adam maneuver.
[0:01:08 – 0:01:11] Adam: This episode… Whipping.
[0:01:12 – 0:01:13] Adam: I’m whipping them out.
[0:01:13 – 0:01:13] Adam: Whips.
[0:01:16 – 0:01:16] Adam: It’s still funny.
[0:01:18 – 0:01:20] Adam: It’s going to always be funny forever and ever.
[0:01:21 – 0:01:23] Erik: 257, welcome to the shed.
[0:01:25 – 0:01:25] Adam: Hey.
[0:01:27 – 0:01:28] Adam: Thanks for being here, Eric.
[0:01:29 – 0:01:36] Adam: Baller move coming straight from town right to the shed into a late night Monday record.
[0:01:36 – 0:01:39] Adam: A strange Monday night record.
[0:01:39 – 0:01:40] Erik: Odd Monday record.
[0:01:40 – 0:01:42] Adam: Have we ever recorded on a Monday night?
[0:01:43 – 0:01:46] Erik: Probably maybe like in the field, but I don’t know.
[0:01:47 – 0:01:51] Erik: I don’t think in the last year or so it would have really aligned with any of our schedules.
[0:01:51 – 0:01:52] Adam: It’s pretty unusual.
[0:01:52 – 0:01:56] Adam: We try and stick close to the Sunday when the show comes out.
[0:01:57 – 0:01:59] Adam: Keep it fresh content for the people.
[0:01:59 – 0:02:02] Adam: Always about the freshest of content.
[0:02:02 – 0:02:03] Adam: Shout out to our Patreons.
[0:02:03 – 0:02:06] Adam: We want to keep the content fresh for you.
[0:02:06 – 0:02:08] Adam: Thanks for your support of the show.
[0:02:09 – 0:02:10] Adam: So fresh you can taste it.
[0:02:11 – 0:02:14] Adam: And anybody listening tonight, I hope it tastes fresh.
[0:02:14 – 0:02:19] Erik: Yeah, I hope the Monday vibes come through.
[0:02:19 – 0:02:22] Erik: Technically my Friday.
[0:02:22 – 0:02:24] Adam: Yeah, wow, it is your Friday.
[0:02:25 – 0:02:27] Adam: It is, well, it’s my Thursday, I guess.
[0:02:27 – 0:02:30] Adam: I got to work tomorrow, but my brother’s coming.
[0:02:31 – 0:02:31] Erik: That’s exciting.
[0:02:31 – 0:02:33] Adam: Brother, are you driving up tomorrow?
[0:02:34 – 0:02:34] Erik: Yeah.
[0:02:35 – 0:02:36] Adam: How’s she going by?
[0:02:36 – 0:02:39] Erik: Yeah, he’ll be heading back by the time this actually comes out.
[0:02:40 – 0:02:41] Erik: Bring the new Glarus.
[0:02:41 – 0:02:41] Erik: Yes.
[0:02:42 – 0:02:42] Erik: And the bike parts.
[0:02:43 – 0:02:45] Adam: Yes, I’ll bring all the bike parts.
[0:02:46 – 0:02:49] Adam: Yeah, my brother’s coming up tomorrow, so I got a pretty light day tomorrow.
[0:02:49 – 0:02:51] Adam: I’m going in early and leaving early.
[0:02:51 – 0:02:52] Adam: It’s going to be a hoot.
[0:02:52 – 0:02:53] Adam: It’s going to be a real hoot.
[0:02:54 – 0:02:54] Adam: It’s going to be a real hoot.
[0:02:54 – 0:02:59] Adam: We’re going to try some, I’m going to try the single track bike track.
[0:02:59 – 0:03:00] Erik: Sounds very exciting.
[0:03:00 – 0:03:01] Adam: Never done it before.
[0:03:01 – 0:03:06] Adam: I’ve been on a bike before, believe it or not, but I’ve never been on the single tracks.
[0:03:07 – 0:03:09] Adam: Anybody out there got any advice?
[0:03:09 – 0:03:13] Erik: I’m sure you’ll get a lot of responses if you ask the right people.
[0:03:13 – 0:03:14] Erik: Go fast.
[0:03:14 – 0:03:17] Erik: Just throw it out into the world and see what happens.
[0:03:17 – 0:03:19] Adam: There we go.
[0:03:19 – 0:03:20] Adam: Yeah.
[0:03:20 – 0:03:22] Adam: Episode 257, Tumble Home.
[0:03:22 – 0:03:26] Adam: We got ourselves a real treat here from the Art Supply Depot.
[0:03:27 – 0:03:31] Erik: Yeah, an art supply that we can both have together.
[0:03:31 – 0:03:32] Adam: Watch out.
[0:03:32 – 0:03:38] Adam: It’s dual art supplies here from dear friend of the show, Dirty Dad Bod.
[0:03:38 – 0:03:39] Adam: And friends.
[0:03:40 – 0:03:41] Erik: And friends.
[0:03:41 – 0:03:42] Adam: That one’s for you, friends.
[0:03:43 – 0:03:47] Adam: Thank you, Dirty Dad Bud, for dropping these off at the co-op in June.
[0:03:48 – 0:03:56] Adam: And yeah, this is out of left field, Oliphant Brewing Strawberry Kiwi Cushy.
[0:03:57 – 0:04:00] Adam: THC infused beverage.
[0:04:01 – 0:04:03] Adam: And it said this one’s hard to find.
[0:04:03 – 0:04:03] Erik: Nice.
[0:04:03 – 0:04:04] Erik: I can’t wait.
[0:04:04 – 0:04:05] Erik: It looks good.
[0:04:06 – 0:04:08] Adam: They don’t make the same kind of noise, though.
[0:04:08 – 0:04:10] Erik: It’s all over the computer screen.
[0:04:11 – 0:04:11] Erik: Jeez, look at that.
[0:04:12 – 0:04:18] Erik: It’s like filled to the… What were the beers that used to do that all the time that were like, you guys are filling them too much.
[0:04:18 – 0:04:19] Adam: Take it easy.
[0:04:20 – 0:04:20] Erik: Thanks, Oliphant.
[0:04:24 – 0:04:25] Erik: Holy moly.
[0:04:26 – 0:04:27] Erik: Yeah, mind the onset.
[0:04:27 – 0:04:27] Erik: We’ll see.
[0:04:28 – 0:04:40] Erik: My THC levels have been as sober as a 12-year-old church boy for about, well, our camping trip, which is what, almost two months ago now?
[0:04:40 – 0:04:41] Erik: My God.
[0:04:41 – 0:04:41] Erik: Praise be.
[0:04:42 – 0:04:47] Erik: I broke the THC fast, though, too, in the last couple of days.
[0:04:47 – 0:04:50] Erik: So this won’t hit me like a, you know,
[0:04:50 – 0:05:08] Erik: pure freight train like it uh may very well could have you never know what these drink ones you never really know yeah the drink ones scrape the bottom of the barrel a little bit harder and uh got a real a cup of the real concentrated stuff yeah if you get a if you get the stuff from the bottom of the vat that’s how it works right yeah they don’t stir it enough
[0:05:09 – 0:05:10] Adam: Or they stirred it too much.
[0:05:10 – 0:05:11] Adam: I don’t know which is which.
[0:05:12 – 0:05:17] Adam: But yeah, sometimes you get one of these drink things and they’re like, man, you know, tasty.
[0:05:17 – 0:05:19] Adam: I don’t know what anything happened in here.
[0:05:19 – 0:05:20] Adam: And then no onset.
[0:05:21 – 0:05:25] Adam: Sometimes you get it and it’s like quadruple onset of what’s advertised.
[0:05:25 – 0:05:28] Adam: So I don’t think they have it quite dialed in how much they’re squirting in there.
[0:05:29 – 0:05:30] Erik: Quadruple Onset.
[0:05:30 – 0:05:31] Erik: These are from Wisconsin, too.
[0:05:31 – 0:05:35] Erik: I didn’t realize that that was legal over there in that backward state.
[0:05:35 – 0:05:36] Adam: Are they from Wisconsin?
[0:05:36 – 0:05:37] Adam: Somerset.
[0:05:37 – 0:05:38] Erik: Look at that.
[0:05:38 – 0:05:44] Erik: I always loved the Oliphant Brewing, you know, back in… Oh, Oliphant’s a friend of the show, for sure.
[0:05:44 – 0:05:45] Erik: Yeah, back in my…
[0:05:46 – 0:05:52] Erik: Back in my drinking days, Oliphant, anytime I saw that on the shelf, it was usually gravitating towards it.
[0:05:52 – 0:05:55] Erik: Freakish artwork, almost always involved.
[0:05:55 – 0:05:56] Erik: Always got to have freakish.
[0:05:56 – 0:05:58] Erik: These are pretty tame, actually.
[0:05:58 – 0:05:59] Adam: It’s hemp-derived THCs.
[0:05:59 – 0:06:00] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:06:00 – 0:06:02] Adam: I guess it’s farm bill legal, I guess.
[0:06:03 – 0:06:05] Erik: Is that good, bad, better, worse?
[0:06:05 – 0:06:06] Erik: We’re going to find out.
[0:06:06 – 0:06:07] Adam: It’s good.
[0:06:07 – 0:06:08] Adam: It’s not best.
[0:06:09 – 0:06:09] Erik: It’s not best?
[0:06:10 – 0:06:11] Adam: No, I think it’s just good.
[0:06:11 – 0:06:11] Adam: Okay.
[0:06:12 – 0:06:15] Adam: Which is good enough because it’s got 10 milligrams in there.
[0:06:15 – 0:06:20] Adam: Plus a little CBD to smooth the skull off the beach.
[0:06:20 – 0:06:22] Erik: Well, the other ones have caffeine in them.
[0:06:22 – 0:06:23] Erik: We couldn’t go there quite.
[0:06:23 – 0:06:26] Adam: Yeah, no, it’s pretty late, as we’ve said.
[0:06:26 – 0:06:28] Adam: And yeah, this one, I can’t remember.
[0:06:28 – 0:06:35] Adam: Dirty Dad Bad, correct us in the show notes, or please contact the show, tumblehomecast.gmail.com.
[0:06:37 – 0:06:40] Adam: Actually, is anybody actually, when was the last time we actually got an email?
[0:06:40 – 0:06:42] Adam: Just hit us up on the DMs.
[0:06:42 – 0:06:42] Adam: Yeah.
[0:06:42 – 0:06:43] Adam: Or in the Discord.
[0:06:44 – 0:06:46] Adam: The other one we got here is from Oliphant.
[0:06:46 – 0:06:52] Adam: It’s Too Cloned to Get Stoned Key Lime Pie beverage.
[0:06:53 – 0:07:00] Adam: This one’s got daytime energy because it’s also got 40 milligrams of caffeine per can on top of the THC and the CBD.
[0:07:01 – 0:07:02] Adam: CBG?
[0:07:02 – 0:07:03] Adam: I don’t even know what that is.
[0:07:04 – 0:07:21] Adam: cbg okay i was reading something and there’s like oh there’s a new thc that’s like makes you lose weight oh my god this is the wild future we’re entering now all right yeah sure it does pass me the bucket of ice cream uh wash this down with a little bit of bucket of ice cream
[0:07:22 – 0:07:23] Erik: Ice cream in the bucket.
[0:07:24 – 0:07:25] Adam: I can’t remember.
[0:07:25 – 0:07:26] Adam: He said one of them is really hard to find.
[0:07:27 – 0:07:30] Adam: Possibly both of them are just really hard to find because I’ve never seen them.
[0:07:30 – 0:07:31] Adam: Have you?
[0:07:32 – 0:07:34] Erik: No, I’ve never seen them at all.
[0:07:34 – 0:07:39] Erik: The wall of THC beverages that you see everywhere, I think I’m pretty familiar with.
[0:07:39 – 0:07:41] Adam: What kind of skull is this on the front?
[0:07:41 – 0:07:44] Adam: This is a multi-skull kind of can artwork here.
[0:07:44 – 0:07:46] Erik: One’s got tusks.
[0:07:47 – 0:07:50] Erik: The other one looks like some kind of a Neanderthal, maybe.
[0:07:50 – 0:07:51] Adam: Maybe it’s a Neanderthal.
[0:07:52 – 0:07:53] Erik: It’s very delicious.
[0:07:53 – 0:07:55] Erik: I am borderline chugging it, so we’ll see.
[0:07:56 – 0:07:57] Erik: Maybe I’ll get on-setted.
[0:07:57 – 0:07:59] Adam: Have you found any information about the on-set?
[0:08:01 – 0:08:01] Erik: No.
[0:08:03 – 0:08:05] Adam: Yeah, peel off the label to find the onset, I think.
[0:08:06 – 0:08:08] Erik: It’s just THC roulette here.
[0:08:08 – 0:08:12] Erik: We’re going to see if our faculties remain.
[0:08:12 – 0:08:14] Adam: Oh, it’s two servings per container.
[0:08:14 – 0:08:16] Adam: We should have split one of these, Eric.
[0:08:16 – 0:08:16] Adam: Oh, God.
[0:08:16 – 0:08:19] Adam: Thank you, Dirty Dad Bod and friends.
[0:08:19 – 0:08:22] Adam: They were going to climb Mount Josephine.
[0:08:22 – 0:08:24] Adam: It was like a super clear day.
[0:08:25 – 0:08:30] Adam: And I do believe they sent word after that they were able to see the Rock of Ages lighthouse.
[0:08:31 – 0:08:32] Erik: Okay, yeah.
[0:08:32 – 0:08:33] Erik: You can see that from up there on a nice clear day.
[0:08:33 – 0:08:36] Adam: On a nice, clear, low-humidity day.
[0:08:37 – 0:08:37] Adam: Crisp.
[0:08:37 – 0:08:38] Adam: It’s got to be crisp.
[0:08:38 – 0:08:39] Adam: It’s got to be crisp.
[0:08:40 – 0:08:40] Adam: Pea.
[0:08:40 – 0:08:41] Erik: Popping those peas.
[0:08:41 – 0:08:46] Adam: They also, I believe, went to Johnson Falls on their trip, if my notes here are correct.
[0:08:47 – 0:08:58] Adam: And I think they ran into Kirsa and crew when they were out there with that puppy on the portage from Canoe down to Pine.
[0:08:58 – 0:08:58] Adam: Yeah.
[0:09:00 – 0:09:00] Adam: Yeah.
[0:09:00 – 0:09:00] Erik: All right.
[0:09:02 – 0:09:04] Adam: Or the Canood Alder Portage, one of those two in that neck of the woods.
[0:09:05 – 0:09:06] Adam: Yep.
[0:09:06 – 0:09:09] Adam: So, yeah, tumble homies meeting live in the field.
[0:09:09 – 0:09:12] Adam: I don’t think they realized at the time the connection was made on Discord later.
[0:09:12 – 0:09:13] Adam: Oh, nice.
[0:09:13 – 0:09:14] Adam: Hey, were you the ones with the puppy?
[0:09:14 – 0:09:16] Adam: And they’re like, yeah, tumble homies.
[0:09:16 – 0:09:17] Erik: Yeah.
[0:09:17 – 0:09:23] Erik: Yeah, we still haven’t run into anybody in the field that we were aware of or they were at the actual time.
[0:09:24 – 0:09:24] Erik: Still…
[0:09:25 – 0:09:25] Erik: Right.
[0:09:26 – 0:09:29] Erik: Still holding out hope for our one trip a year that we take.
[0:09:29 – 0:09:31] Erik: The odds are against us.
[0:09:32 – 0:09:36] Adam: I filled the Dilden with cheap dancer bootleg merch stickers.
[0:09:37 – 0:09:40] Adam: You will never walk alone special edition stickers.
[0:09:40 – 0:09:44] Adam: I had the whole Dilden filled for the entire Frost River trip.
[0:09:44 – 0:09:49] Adam: And not one person asked for our autograph or even mentioned the show.
[0:09:49 – 0:09:54] Adam: If anybody so much had mentioned Tumble Home, I was going to shower them with gifts.
[0:09:54 – 0:09:54] Adam: Yeah.
[0:09:55 – 0:09:56] Adam: Courtesy of Cheap Dancer.
[0:09:56 – 0:09:57] Adam: Thank you, Cheap Dancer.
[0:09:58 – 0:09:58] Erik: Thank you, of course.
[0:09:59 – 0:10:08] Adam: So then I just left a bunch of them in the Round Lake entry point permit box next to the tiny pencils.
[0:10:09 – 0:10:10] Erik: Yeah, the golf pencil.
[0:10:11 – 0:10:11] Erik: Yeah.
[0:10:11 – 0:10:18] Adam: So if anybody got one of those, I hope you understood the walk reference.
[0:10:19 – 0:10:20] Erik: At the very least.
[0:10:20 – 0:10:21] Adam: I guess if they’re listening to this, they would have.
[0:10:21 – 0:10:22] Erik: Yeah, I would think so.
[0:10:23 – 0:10:24] Adam: All right.
[0:10:24 – 0:10:25] Adam: All right.
[0:10:25 – 0:10:28] Adam: What are you giving this strawberry kiwi cushy?
[0:10:29 – 0:10:31] Adam: I’m a big fan of the name.
[0:10:31 – 0:10:32] Erik: Okay.
[0:10:35 – 0:10:35] Erik: Yeah.
[0:10:36 – 0:10:38] Erik: We give it five out of six.
[0:10:39 – 0:10:40] Erik: Blue Skulls.
[0:10:41 – 0:10:45] Erik: It does not claim to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.
[0:10:45 – 0:10:46] Erik: Dang.
[0:10:47 – 0:10:48] Erik: Was it supposed to?
[0:10:49 – 0:10:52] Adam: Yeah, I got a real horrible disease.
[0:10:52 – 0:10:53] Adam: It’s called I’m thirsty.
[0:10:53 – 0:10:54] Adam: Yeah, really thirsty.
[0:10:54 – 0:10:55] Adam: I’m a real thirsty boy.
[0:10:55 – 0:11:00] Adam: Yeah, I’ll give it 10 out of 10 tusks.
[0:11:01 – 0:11:02] Adam: Thank you.
[0:11:02 – 0:11:03] Adam: Thank you.
[0:11:03 – 0:11:04] Adam: It’s real tasty.
[0:11:06 – 0:11:07] Erik: Great song.
[0:11:09 – 0:11:09] Adam: Tusk.
[0:11:10 – 0:11:10] Adam: Tusk.
[0:11:10 – 0:11:11] Adam: Mm-hmm.
[0:11:13 – 0:11:16] Erik: We’re getting back into Portage Pack Chat.
[0:11:16 – 0:11:17] Adam: Is that going to be the outro song?
[0:11:18 – 0:11:23] Adam: Pack Chat with the USC Marching Band.
[0:11:25 – 0:11:26] Erik: Fleetwood Mac, come on.
[0:11:26 – 0:11:28] Adam: Chiptune Fleetwood Mac.
[0:11:28 – 0:11:29] Adam: That’s what I was thinking.
[0:11:29 – 0:11:30] Adam: Marching Band Fleetwood Mac.
[0:11:30 – 0:11:33] Erik: Well, that’s who’s in the actual song.
[0:11:33 – 0:11:34] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:11:34 – 0:11:34] Erik: It’s the USC Marching Band.
[0:11:35 – 0:11:36] Erik: True enough.
[0:11:36 – 0:11:39] Erik: It’s the University of Southern California.
[0:11:40 – 0:11:40] Erik: Beautiful.
[0:11:40 – 0:11:42] Adam: Beautiful.
[0:11:43 – 0:11:44] Adam: Very little paddling.
[0:11:45 – 0:11:45] Adam: Bow, bow.
[0:11:46 – 0:11:49] Adam: Very little paddling down there in Las Angeles.
[0:11:49 – 0:11:51] Erik: Nah, yeah, I don’t know what you’re going to be doing.
[0:11:51 – 0:11:55] Adam: Yeah, like those cement sewer rivers or whatever.
[0:11:55 – 0:12:01] Erik: Yeah, when those are flooded, I guess you could shoot those or go sit on the stinky salt and sea.
[0:12:01 – 0:12:01] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:12:02 – 0:12:04] Adam: Yeah, not so beautiful.
[0:12:04 – 0:12:05] Erik: Well, I mean, it is beautiful.
[0:12:05 – 0:12:06] Erik: In its own way.
[0:12:08 – 0:12:09] Adam: Packs.
[0:12:09 – 0:12:10] Erik: Packy Derms.
[0:12:10 – 0:12:11] Erik: Packy Derms.
[0:12:11 – 0:12:12] Erik: It’s Pack Chat.
[0:12:13 – 0:12:13] Erik: Pack Chat.
[0:12:13 – 0:12:14] Erik: Part 2.
[0:12:14 – 0:12:15] Erik: Part 2.
[0:12:16 – 0:12:17] Erik: Electric.
[0:12:18 – 0:12:18] Erik: Packaloo.
[0:12:19 – 0:12:22] Erik: Finished with Kambuge.
[0:12:22 – 0:12:23] Erik: Last week, I believe.
[0:12:23 – 0:12:24] Erik: Yep.
[0:12:25 – 0:12:25] Adam: Oh, boy.
[0:12:25 – 0:12:26] Erik: I’m sorry.
[0:12:26 – 0:12:27] Erik: I’m sorry, brother.
[0:12:28 – 0:12:29] Erik: Brother Andrew.
[0:12:29 – 0:12:31] Erik: You know, you always love that.
[0:12:32 – 0:12:33] Erik: Brother, are you listening?
[0:12:34 – 0:12:34] Erik: Mute that.
[0:12:35 – 0:12:35] Erik: Do now.
[0:12:35 – 0:12:40] Erik: 6, 3, 4, 39 days ago.
[0:12:40 – 0:12:44] Erik: Man, you’re just different men 39 days ago, were we not?
[0:12:45 – 0:12:46] Erik: Different world 39 days ago.
[0:12:47 – 0:12:49] Adam: A couple things that happened in the last 39 days.
[0:12:49 – 0:12:51] Erik: Yeah, it’s a couple things.
[0:12:52 – 0:12:55] Erik: The big ass blue granite gear portage pack.
[0:12:56 – 0:12:57] Erik: I’m getting used to it.
[0:12:57 – 0:13:01] Erik: Some days I still wish I could lock it all in like a backpacking pack.
[0:13:03 – 0:13:03] Erik: Yeah, I mean…
[0:13:04 – 0:13:04] Adam: The BAB?
[0:13:05 – 0:13:06] Erik: The B… Big ass blue.
[0:13:06 – 0:13:08] Erik: Big… Blue.
[0:13:09 – 0:13:17] Erik: I guess that is the one slight downside to the portage pack is things are never quite as snug and tight as those backpacking packs, you know?
[0:13:17 – 0:13:18] Erik: But…
[0:13:21 – 0:13:24] Erik: It’s just like the back of an old pickup truck.
[0:13:24 – 0:13:26] Erik: You just throw it in, get it in there.
[0:13:26 – 0:13:27] Adam: It’s not meant to be packed tightly.
[0:13:27 – 0:13:30] Adam: It’s meant to fit nicely in the bottom of a boat.
[0:13:31 – 0:13:34] Adam: It’s meant to snuggle the tumble home.
[0:13:34 – 0:13:35] Erik: Snuggle the tumble home.
[0:13:35 – 0:13:36] Adam: There we go.
[0:13:36 – 0:13:37] Adam: There it is.
[0:13:37 – 0:13:38] Adam: Snuggle right on in there, buddy.
[0:13:39 – 0:13:40] Adam: That’s the whole point.
[0:13:40 – 0:13:43] Adam: The pack is supposed to form to the boat, not to the back.
[0:13:43 – 0:14:01] Erik: yeah i am the snub i am the snuggler i i’m gonna snuggle you so hard other than that it’s pretty easy with easy access front and side pockets and great water resistance yeah oh the water resistance
[0:14:01 – 0:14:06] Erik: Yeah, I mean, I think those are mostly, especially the new ones, pretty water resistant.
[0:14:06 – 0:14:08] Adam: Just beads and runs off them like a wet bird.
[0:14:08 – 0:14:10] Erik: Yeah, like a duck’s back.
[0:14:11 – 0:14:13] Adam: What kind of Cordura is that duck made out of?
[0:14:13 – 0:14:14] Adam: 1000D.
[0:14:14 – 0:14:15] Adam: 1000D duck.
[0:14:16 – 0:14:20] Adam: Too many chomps.
[0:14:20 – 0:14:22] Adam: What kind of hose setting do you think Gordy likes?
[0:14:23 – 0:14:24] Erik: He’s probably a fan of the jet.
[0:14:25 – 0:14:25] Erik: Jet.
[0:14:25 – 0:14:26] Erik: Just give it to me.
[0:14:26 – 0:14:27] Erik: Chomp, chomp, chomp.
[0:14:27 – 0:14:29] Erik: Ruffle those feathers.
[0:14:29 – 0:14:30] Erik: Mm-hmm.
[0:14:30 – 0:14:31] Erik: I’ll do another one here.
[0:14:31 – 0:14:34] Erik: Electrical figure.
[0:14:34 – 0:14:35] Erik: 983.
[0:14:35 – 0:14:38] Erik: The answer depends on how you plan to portage.
[0:14:39 – 0:14:44] Erik: If you’re single portaging, purpose-built granite gear packs are really tough to beat.
[0:14:45 – 0:14:49] Erik: If you are doubling back, just make sure whatever you do is waterproof.
[0:14:50 – 0:14:50] Erik: Yeah.
[0:14:50 – 0:14:51] Erik: Yeah.
[0:14:52 – 0:14:53] Erik: I guess that kind of makes sense.
[0:14:53 – 0:15:00] Erik: If you are just doubling, just take whatever you want, as long as it’s not a quick trip bag, as we have said.
[0:15:00 – 0:15:02] Erik: Here we go.
[0:15:02 – 0:15:04] Erik: Somebody’s making their packs, of course.
[0:15:04 – 0:15:05] Adam: Yeah, they better be.
[0:15:06 – 0:15:07] Adam: First comment like that.
[0:15:07 – 0:15:08] Adam: All right.
[0:15:08 – 0:15:11] Adam: Next up on the show, do lawfulness.
[0:15:12 – 0:15:14] Adam: Five, six, seven, three, 39 days ago.
[0:15:14 – 0:15:21] Adam: I made a bunch of envelope style portage packs with surplus waist belts and shoulder straps.
[0:15:22 – 0:15:22] Adam: And there we go.
[0:15:22 – 0:15:23] Adam: 1000D Cordura.
[0:15:25 – 0:15:30] Adam: 1,000 D. Thinking about tearing a couple of them apart to add side panels.
[0:15:30 – 0:15:34] Adam: I need a little more room to contain the synthetic quilts and hammock gear.
[0:15:35 – 0:15:38] Adam: They are light but bulky, even under compression.
[0:15:38 – 0:15:43] Adam: Just don’t camp enough to justify plucking a bunch of geese to upgrade to down.
[0:15:43 – 0:15:44] Adam: Oh, no.
[0:15:45 – 0:15:47] Adam: I think they don’t need to pluck the geese anymore to get the down.
[0:15:48 – 0:15:51] Adam: They can grow that in a laboratory these days, like the Cordura.
[0:15:52 – 0:15:52] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:15:52 – 0:15:54] Erik: The Cordura is grown in a lab, too.
[0:15:54 – 0:15:54] Erik: Yeah.
[0:15:55 – 0:15:56] Adam: Oh, my gosh.
[0:15:57 – 0:15:57] Adam: Whoa.
[0:15:58 – 0:15:59] Erik: We got something.
[0:15:59 – 0:16:00] Erik: We got some husky action here.
[0:16:00 – 0:16:02] Adam: The arrow is chasing something behind me now.
[0:16:04 – 0:16:07] Adam: Yeah, they grow the down in an arid environment.
[0:16:09 – 0:16:10] Adam: Outside at last angle is.
[0:16:10 – 0:16:11] Erik: Oh, perfect.
[0:16:11 – 0:16:11] Adam: Yeah.
[0:16:12 – 0:16:13] Adam: It’s pretty arid.
[0:16:13 – 0:16:18] Adam: That comment was worth four boxes of wine, and I think that was a first-time caller.
[0:16:18 – 0:16:20] Adam: Welcome to the show, do lawfulness.
[0:16:21 – 0:16:41] Adam: do lawfulness do awfulness it’s uh like the opposite of doing crimes oh yeah i guess do awful i’m doing the lawfulness doing the lawfulness thank you for your comment uh next up on the show uh veteran of tumble home uh comment threads amateur camper
[0:16:41 – 0:16:42] Erik: Grizzly vet.
[0:16:43 – 0:16:44] Adam: Grizzled vet.
[0:16:44 – 0:16:45] Adam: 39 days ago.
[0:16:45 – 0:16:47] Adam: This is also worth four boxes of wine.
[0:16:48 – 0:16:57] Adam: We use the large Cabela’s brand dry packs for our big stuff, and I carry a 30-liter Sea Lion dry pack with the canoe.
[0:16:58 – 0:17:00] Adam: Love the waterproof dry packs.
[0:17:00 – 0:17:05] Adam: Yeah, those are getting a lot of comments and shout-outs on this year’s show.
[0:17:05 – 0:17:08] Erik: I haven’t heard anything of the Cabela’s variety yet.
[0:17:09 – 0:17:11] Erik: I think that’s the first mention of Cabela’s.
[0:17:11 – 0:17:12] Adam: Cabela’s packs.
[0:17:12 – 0:17:13] Adam: Built to last.
[0:17:13 – 0:17:14] Erik: Yeah, maybe.
[0:17:15 – 0:17:20] Erik: I know they used to have a really good warranty, I believe, but I don’t think that they do anymore, the Cabela’s stuff.
[0:17:21 – 0:17:22] Adam: Is Cabela’s still around?
[0:17:23 – 0:17:23] Erik: I have no idea.
[0:17:23 – 0:17:26] Erik: They probably are, I think.
[0:17:26 – 0:17:28] Erik: Probably a subsidiary of Bass Pro Shops.
[0:17:28 – 0:17:29] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:17:30 – 0:17:34] Erik: Those big sporting goods stores are just, I don’t know.
[0:17:34 – 0:17:35] Erik: They don’t do it for me.
[0:17:35 – 0:17:36] Erik: They used to, for sure.
[0:17:37 – 0:17:37] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:17:37 – 0:17:39] Erik: I loved going to those places.
[0:17:39 – 0:17:39] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:17:39 – 0:17:43] Erik: But now it’s just like, I don’t want any of this stuff.
[0:17:43 – 0:17:44] Erik: I don’t need any of this.
[0:17:45 – 0:17:46] Erik: Yeah, this is absurd.
[0:17:46 – 0:17:51] Erik: I mean, I guess I just mostly have all of the outdoor stuff that I need for the most part.
[0:17:51 – 0:17:51] Erik: That’s true.
[0:17:52 – 0:18:05] Erik: And it’s also just like just a circus of kind of crazy Chinese gear and or clothing and stuff where you’re just like, eh, goes to vet Abby.
[0:18:07 – 0:18:07] Erik: Meh.
[0:18:09 – 0:18:09] Erik: Meh.
[0:18:09 – 0:18:10] Erik: Yep.
[0:18:11 – 0:18:13] Erik: I mean, I love the aquarium.
[0:18:13 – 0:18:13] Erik: It’s great.
[0:18:13 – 0:18:17] Adam: I’m trying to remember, like, the last time I was in a Gander Mountain or anything of the equivalents.
[0:18:18 – 0:18:18] Erik: Yeah.
[0:18:19 – 0:18:20] Erik: It’s been a while.
[0:18:20 – 0:18:24] Erik: I mean, there’s probably a reason that there are, I mean, not really many of them around anymore.
[0:18:24 – 0:18:31] Erik: I guess there’s the massive, like, the jumbo, like, flagship stores that are next to, like, the Mall of America and bigger places.
[0:18:31 – 0:18:34] Erik: But, you know, just see… Because, like, Gander Mountains and…
[0:18:35 – 0:18:41] Erik: All of those kind of in-between Dick’s Sporting Goods, those used to be just kind of everywhere.
[0:18:41 – 0:18:41] Erik: They were everywhere.
[0:18:42 – 0:18:50] Erik: And now it’s just, I don’t know, not really one of those stores that you need two floors with an escalator in the middle of anymore.
[0:18:50 – 0:18:52] Adam: Yeah, you got to have the escalator to go up by the golf clubs.
[0:18:53 – 0:18:54] Adam: What?
[0:18:54 – 0:18:55] Adam: Yeah, exactly.
[0:18:55 – 0:18:57] Adam: How many golf clubs do you guys have?
[0:18:57 – 0:18:58] Adam: Yeah, what?
[0:18:58 – 0:18:59] Adam: They’re next to the kayaks.
[0:18:59 – 0:19:00] Erik: What’s the other one?
[0:19:00 – 0:19:00] Erik: Shields?
[0:19:01 – 0:19:02] Erik: I see people like Shields credit cards.
[0:19:02 – 0:19:03] Erik: I’m like, really?
[0:19:03 – 0:19:05] Erik: You’re doing that much shopping at Shields?
[0:19:05 – 0:19:07] Adam: Yeah, I got a really good deal up in this credit card, though.
[0:19:07 – 0:19:12] Erik: Yeah, maybe it’s really good APR, really good refinancing.
[0:19:13 – 0:19:16] Adam: I get all my outdoors equipment from three places.
[0:19:17 – 0:19:17] Adam: The Ditch.
[0:19:18 – 0:19:18] Adam: Others.
[0:19:18 – 0:19:19] Adam: Portages.
[0:19:20 – 0:19:22] Adam: Or Bucks in grammar.
[0:19:22 – 0:19:24] Adam: We are definitely not sponsored by Bucks.
[0:19:24 – 0:19:24] Adam: No.
[0:19:25 – 0:19:28] Adam: I don’t condone their actions at all, but they have really good sporting goods.
[0:19:29 – 0:19:30] Adam: What does that mean?
[0:19:30 – 0:19:31] Erik: What happened?
[0:19:31 – 0:19:33] Erik: Sounds like something’s up.
[0:19:34 – 0:19:42] Adam: Tune in for the after show for the real story on downtown’s best and worst sporting goods store, Bucks.
[0:19:43 – 0:19:46] Adam: Bucks has never worked a day in his life.
[0:19:48 – 0:19:49] Erik: Yep, it’s true.
[0:19:49 – 0:19:50] Erik: Coast of Ed Abbey.
[0:19:51 – 0:19:51] Erik: Long time.
[0:19:52 – 0:19:53] Erik: Old grizzled vat.
[0:19:54 – 0:19:55] Erik: A mix.
[0:19:56 – 0:19:57] Erik: Seal line.
[0:19:57 – 0:19:58] Erik: Two L’s.
[0:19:58 – 0:19:59] Erik: This guy knows what’s up.
[0:20:00 – 0:20:01] Erik: Thank you.
[0:20:01 – 0:20:02] Erik: 115 liter.
[0:20:02 – 0:20:02] Erik: Parentheses.
[0:20:02 – 0:20:03] Erik: Great.
[0:20:04 – 0:20:05] Erik: An Otterbox dry bag duffel.
[0:20:06 – 0:20:07] Erik: Parentheses.
[0:20:07 – 0:20:07] Erik: Great.
[0:20:07 – 0:20:09] Erik: But maybe discontinued.
[0:20:10 – 0:20:16] Erik: A CCS guide nicknamed the beast because it’s so big that it can get really heavy.
[0:20:17 – 0:20:23] Erik: Few smaller 60 liter dry bags with straps and all the fishing packs and a 60 liter blue barrel.
[0:20:24 – 0:20:26] Erik: Although that will change this year with the new rules.
[0:20:27 – 0:20:28] Erik: Screw those rules.
[0:20:28 – 0:20:34] Erik: We formerly used an old backpacking pack with a dry bag in it, but that needed to get retired.
[0:20:35 – 0:20:49] Erik: The backpacking pack works well as long as they are shorter than the canoe is wide and can nestle down, snuggle in to the bottom of the canoe to keep a low center of gravity.
[0:20:49 – 0:20:49] Erik: Yeah.
[0:20:51 – 0:20:54] Erik: We also have a soft-sided backpack cooler that works well.
[0:20:55 – 0:20:57] Erik: Fishing gear has its own rotation of packs.
[0:20:57 – 0:21:00] Erik: Depends on size of the group and type of trip.
[0:21:00 – 0:21:03] Erik: Which packs actually get used?
[0:21:04 – 0:21:05] Adam: I can feel that.
[0:21:05 – 0:21:08] Adam: How many liters do you think a Min 2 is?
[0:21:08 – 0:21:09] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:21:09 – 0:21:13] Erik: People would call Clearwater back in the day and ask me like, how big are the packs?
[0:21:13 – 0:21:14] Erik: Like, how many liters?
[0:21:14 – 0:21:17] Erik: I’m like, I don’t… Volume has never been my…
[0:21:17 – 0:21:18] Erik: I can’t like…
[0:21:18 – 0:21:22] Erik: It’s the same thing when I’m like trying to put away leftovers.
[0:21:22 – 0:21:22] Erik: Mm-hmm.
[0:21:23 – 0:21:26] Erik: Tori will be like, grab something for these leftovers.
[0:21:26 – 0:21:30] Erik: And it’s either way too big or not big enough.
[0:21:31 – 0:21:32] Adam: It’s never the right size.
[0:21:32 – 0:21:33] Adam: It’s like, okay.
[0:21:33 – 0:21:34] Adam: Why did you bring a five-gallon bucket?
[0:21:34 – 0:21:36] Adam: This is like a half a cup of rice.
[0:21:36 – 0:21:39] Erik: There’s a scoop of rice in this huge shoebox size.
[0:21:40 – 0:21:41] Adam: It doesn’t even fit in the fridge.
[0:21:42 – 0:21:43] Adam: What kind of container is this?
[0:21:43 – 0:21:44] Adam: Where did you find this?
[0:21:45 – 0:21:47] Adam: It was under the Tupperware.
[0:21:47 – 0:21:49] Erik: And I’ve resigned myself to just not getting better at it.
[0:21:50 – 0:21:53] Erik: So I’m like, I’m not putting away leftovers.
[0:21:53 – 0:21:54] Erik: I’m not trying to.
[0:21:54 – 0:21:55] Adam: Just eat them.
[0:21:55 – 0:21:56] Adam: It’s your job now.
[0:21:56 – 0:21:57] Adam: Just eat them.
[0:21:57 – 0:21:59] Adam: Leave them on the counter all night and then eat them in the morning.
[0:22:00 – 0:22:00] Adam: It’s fine.
[0:22:00 – 0:22:02] Adam: I’m food safety certified.
[0:22:02 – 0:22:03] Adam: It’s okay.
[0:22:03 – 0:22:03] Erik: Yeah.
[0:22:03 – 0:22:06] Erik: It’s just reverse air sous vide.
[0:22:07 – 0:22:07] Erik: Exactly.
[0:22:07 – 0:22:09] Erik: Letting them sit at room temperature.
[0:22:09 – 0:22:12] Adam: Mayonnaise is fine at room temperature for upwards of 8 to 11 days.
[0:22:12 – 0:22:13] Adam: You guys will be fine.
[0:22:13 – 0:22:15] Adam: 8 to 11 days.
[0:22:15 – 0:22:17] Adam: Depends on your humidity levels.
[0:22:17 – 0:22:20] Erik: It’s all about the humidity when it comes to the mayo.
[0:22:20 – 0:22:21] Erik: I know.
[0:22:21 – 0:22:23] Erik: This is tumble home after dark.
[0:22:24 – 0:22:25] Erik: Oh, no.
[0:22:25 – 0:22:27] Erik: I’m here with a couple of mayo experts.
[0:22:28 – 0:22:28] Erik: That’s right.
[0:22:28 – 0:22:30] Erik: A pair of choppers is also here.
[0:22:32 – 0:22:36] Erik: Large Grand Gear Duluth-style packs, although they are looking a little worn down.
[0:22:37 – 0:22:41] Erik: Could use a pack ranker episodes for ideas on a new one.
[0:22:41 – 0:22:42] Erik: Well, here you go.
[0:22:43 – 0:22:44] Erik: Pack rankers, yeah, we’re going to rank them at the end.
[0:22:44 – 0:22:45] Erik: Are you happy now?
[0:22:46 – 0:22:48] Erik: I don’t know if there’s going to be a ranking.
[0:22:48 – 0:22:49] Erik: I don’t think I’m prepared to do that.
[0:22:49 – 0:22:56] Erik: I think we started with the lead and set our piece on whatever works for you, pretty much.
[0:22:56 – 0:22:58] Adam: Yeah, we’re not going to rank them.
[0:22:58 – 0:22:59] Adam: Rank them yourselves.
[0:22:59 – 0:22:59] Adam: Yeah.
[0:22:59 – 0:23:03] Erik: I think the rankings are… What?
[0:23:04 – 0:23:08] Erik: I’m sensing a little bit of hostility on this last week’s episode of Tumble Home.
[0:23:08 – 0:23:09] Erik: I’m not sure what was going on.
[0:23:09 – 0:23:10] Adam: What’s going on in Grand Marais right now?
[0:23:11 – 0:23:12] Adam: Well, I don’t know.
[0:23:12 – 0:23:13] Adam: What’s Arrow chasing around the shed?
[0:23:13 – 0:23:14] Adam: Something’s just up.
[0:23:14 – 0:23:16] Adam: I think it’s the full moon, honestly.
[0:23:16 – 0:23:17] Adam: I think it is.
[0:23:17 – 0:23:20] Erik: That full moon’s been crazy with that smoke in the air lately.
[0:23:20 – 0:23:21] Erik: Mm-hmm.
[0:23:21 – 0:23:22] Adam: Blood red.
[0:23:22 – 0:23:25] Adam: Oh, it’s ominous.
[0:23:25 – 0:23:27] Erik: Blood red doll’s eyes.
[0:23:28 – 0:23:29] Adam: Doll’s eyes.
[0:23:29 – 0:23:33] Adam: This kiwi cushy is going down pretty good.
[0:23:33 – 0:23:33] Erik: It’s gone.
[0:23:34 – 0:23:34] Erik: It’s in me now.
[0:23:34 – 0:23:35] Adam: You’re gone?
[0:23:35 – 0:23:37] Adam: This guy’s ready for the onset.
[0:23:37 – 0:23:37] Adam: I’m in trouble.
[0:23:41 – 0:23:42] Adam: Ah, yeah.
[0:23:42 – 0:23:43] Adam: That is refreshing.
[0:23:43 – 0:23:43] Adam: That’s perfect.
[0:23:44 – 0:23:44] Adam: Yeah.
[0:23:45 – 0:23:48] Adam: I’ll take this opportunity to shout out our bird of the week.
[0:23:49 – 0:23:49] Adam: Oh, perfect.
[0:23:50 – 0:23:50] SPEAKER_00: Pew, pew, pew.
[0:23:51 – 0:23:51] Erik: Bird of the week.
[0:23:52 – 0:24:15] Adam: i was out on the bike on the trout lake road a couple days ago and there’s a big old grouse standing on the side of the road and normally not something i’d get too excited about eric uh we’re approaching and uh grouse just started like starts running down the road instead of like taking off one way or the other yeah and oh my gosh there’s like little baby grouse oh nice
[0:24:16 – 0:24:19] Adam: like six or seven of them, and they all take off into the ditch.
[0:24:20 – 0:24:23] Adam: And I don’t know if you’ve ever come upon a flock of baby grouse.
[0:24:24 – 0:24:25] Erik: Are they covey?
[0:24:26 – 0:24:27] Erik: Covey of baby grouse?
[0:24:27 – 0:24:29] Adam: What’s a baby grouse?
[0:24:29 – 0:24:30] Adam: A chick?
[0:24:30 – 0:24:31] Adam: Gross chicks.
[0:24:31 – 0:24:31] Adam: Covey of them.
[0:24:32 – 0:24:33] Adam: Old covey of them in the ditch, Eric.
[0:24:34 – 0:24:50] Adam: and uh they got in there and they were making the most bizarre little noises uh calling back to mama but mama did the thing where she just kept running down the road to like yeah diversion chase me chase me don’t look in the ditch over that the kobe and i wasn’t fooled i would
[0:24:51 – 0:25:15] Adam: in the ditch and i got them i’m just kidding i’m just kidding around with you guys they don’t do the the like fake broken wing thing no it just sort of like ran off and then finally did like veer off into the ditch eventually once it was well past the the chicks yeah robins are really good at doing that the busted wing i’m lamed yeah keep following me over here
[0:25:16 – 0:25:40] Adam: i’m easy pickings just kidding i’m off uh-huh bird fooled you uh so dry very fooled i uh so anyways that’s your bird of the week it’s not kobe of not just uh any bonassa it was a kobe of grouse chicks a bonassa kobe yeah it was pretty fun sighting uh yeah anyhow thank you uh
[0:25:42 – 0:25:45] Adam: Next up on the show, what is going on in here, Errol?
[0:25:45 – 0:25:45] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:25:46 – 0:25:49] Erik: Too many bugs or something.
[0:25:49 – 0:25:49] Adam: She’s keen.
[0:25:49 – 0:25:50] Adam: She’s really on edge over here.
[0:25:50 – 0:25:51] Adam: She’s keen for something.
[0:25:52 – 0:25:56] Adam: Next up on the show, friend of the show, Daddy Warris.
[0:25:56 – 0:25:58] Adam: I don’t know if there’s a friend.
[0:25:58 – 0:25:58] Adam: Are you friend?
[0:25:59 – 0:26:00] Erik: Are you friend?
[0:26:00 – 0:26:11] Adam: 39 days ago, for Box of Wine, lined Duluth or Granite Gear number four and or NRS Bills bag.
[0:26:12 – 0:26:16] Adam: Sometimes the Duluth food pack if it’s a fancier trip.
[0:26:18 – 0:26:22] Adam: Also, everyone usually brings a small dry bag for personal stuff.
[0:26:22 – 0:26:25] Adam: You got to have the little dry bag that goes in the big bag.
[0:26:25 – 0:26:26] Adam: That’s the key to it all.
[0:26:27 – 0:26:27] Adam: Bags and bags.
[0:26:27 – 0:26:30] Adam: That’s how you get it to snuggle it down into the tumble and perfect.
[0:26:31 – 0:26:32] Adam: Think about your boat.
[0:26:32 – 0:26:33] Adam: Don’t think about the back.
[0:26:34 – 0:26:37] Adam: How’s your boat going to feel after carrying it for most of the trip?
[0:26:39 – 0:26:40] Erik: I don’t know.
[0:26:41 – 0:26:42] Erik: To get back to answering your question.
[0:26:42 – 0:26:43] Erik: How many liters?
[0:26:43 – 0:26:44] Erik: 2,500 liters maybe.
[0:26:44 – 0:26:45] Erik: For a woman too?
[0:26:45 – 0:26:45] Erik: Yeah.
[0:26:49 – 0:26:50] Adam: Yeah, that sounds right.
[0:26:50 – 0:26:51] Erik: Okay.
[0:26:51 – 0:26:52] Erik: 2,000?
[0:26:52 – 0:26:54] Erik: Maybe 2,000, maybe 2,500.
[0:26:54 – 0:26:58] Adam: Well, you think about it, like the big ones they’re saying are like 60 liter packs.
[0:26:59 – 0:27:00] Erik: Well, there was the one that there was 110.
[0:27:00 – 0:27:03] Adam: I don’t know how you fit that into a Min 2.
[0:27:03 – 0:27:03] Adam: That’s ridiculous.
[0:27:04 – 0:27:06] Adam: You have to remove a few things.
[0:27:07 – 0:27:08] Adam: Got to remove a seat.
[0:27:08 – 0:27:10] Erik: Spread the gunnel.
[0:27:10 – 0:27:13] Adam: Yeah, that’s only allowed on a river trip where you’re just going with the flow.
[0:27:13 – 0:27:13] Erik: Probably.
[0:27:14 – 0:27:14] Erik: Probably.
[0:27:15 – 0:27:18] Adam: Yeah, you get at least a couple 60 liters in there.
[0:27:18 – 0:27:21] Adam: I don’t know, 2,000 maybe is heavy.
[0:27:21 – 0:27:22] Adam: 750?
[0:27:22 – 0:27:23] Adam: I mean…
[0:27:24 – 0:27:26] Erik: If you’re filling it up with actual water?
[0:27:26 – 0:27:32] Adam: Yeah, I think you could easily get, I don’t know, easily, sure, 460 liters.
[0:27:32 – 0:27:35] Adam: So, yeah, I don’t know.
[0:27:35 – 0:27:38] Adam: It’s probably under 1,000 liters for the whole boat.
[0:27:39 – 0:27:42] Adam: But I bet it would be shockingly more than you’d think, actually.
[0:27:42 – 0:27:47] Erik: I mean, I guess the real question is like liters of actual usable space.
[0:27:48 – 0:27:48] Erik: Yeah, right.
[0:27:49 – 0:28:00] Erik: Sure, you could fill it with actual liters of liquid and it’s probably a lot, but you’re not taking advantage of every bit of space in a canoe like you are with water, obviously.
[0:28:00 – 0:28:02] Erik: I think we figured that out, right?
[0:28:03 – 0:28:09] Adam: Yeah, we fact-checked ourselves on the fly and we’ve reached a satisfactory conclusion on the question.
[0:28:09 – 0:28:09] Erik: Nicely done.
[0:28:10 – 0:28:13] Erik: Next up on the show, Gobi.
[0:28:14 – 0:28:17] Adam: Dear friend of the show, Gobi in my pants.
[0:28:17 – 0:28:20] Adam: 39 days ago with four boxes of wine.
[0:28:21 – 0:28:27] Adam: So after reading everyone’s suggestions, it seems most are using a Duluth pack style of some sort.
[0:28:27 – 0:28:36] Adam: The CCS packs look nice, and I do actually own an old Granite Gear Quetico that we call the Fat Bastard because it just holds so much.
[0:28:37 – 0:28:59] Adam: i came across this pack does anyone have any info it’s a link eric oh boy on rbw expedition canoe pack from canadianoutdoorequipment.com do you trust this link um there’s a response from uh canadian friend of the show talking about these packs should i just read the response and not click the link
[0:29:00 – 0:29:02] Erik: Well, yeah, maybe start with the response.
[0:29:02 – 0:29:09] Adam: It looks like a pretty thoughtful response about, all right, we’re going to read this response because I’m not familiar with the website.
[0:29:09 – 0:29:13] Adam: I’m not familiar with the RBW.
[0:29:14 – 0:29:16] Adam: Dear friend of the show, sorry about that.
[0:29:17 – 0:29:20] Adam: Oh, there you go.
[0:29:20 – 0:29:21] Erik: I think that’s better.
[0:29:21 – 0:29:21] Erik: Mm-hmm.
[0:29:22 – 0:29:24] Adam: Yeah, that’s a popular pack up here in Canada.
[0:29:24 – 0:29:34] Adam: They’re basically a facsimile of the Ostrom Pack, which was a ubiquitous Thunder Bay-based canoe pack company.
[0:29:36 – 0:29:36] Adam: You got me there.
[0:29:37 – 0:29:41] Adam: Ostrom packs could be found in almost every paddler’s canoe closet.
[0:29:41 – 0:29:59] Adam: As I understand it, and I could be mistaken, Ostrom closed their business at some point, and Recreational Barrel Works, RBW, who supplied blue barrels to Canadian paddlers and whose owner was apparently friends with Ostrom, filled the demand for packs left by Ostrom’s departure.
[0:29:59 – 0:30:00] Adam: Okay.
[0:30:00 – 0:30:01] Erik: Wow.
[0:30:02 – 0:30:03] Adam: That was a lot of information.
[0:30:04 – 0:30:05] Adam: They may be made in China, though.
[0:30:05 – 0:30:11] Adam: It says Ostrom packs had been made in Thunder Bay, akin to CCS being made in Minnesota.
[0:30:11 – 0:30:11] Adam: There we go.
[0:30:12 – 0:30:15] Adam: Seeing the success of RBW, what is Arrow doing?
[0:30:16 – 0:30:20] Adam: Arrow, you’re being really bad on this episode.
[0:30:20 – 0:30:21] Erik: Really weird.
[0:30:22 – 0:30:25] Adam: What is under the stage?
[0:30:26 – 0:30:28] SPEAKER_00: There’s something under the stage.
[0:30:31 – 0:30:31] Adam: Oh, dear.
[0:30:31 – 0:30:33] Adam: I don’t know what she’s hunting there.
[0:30:33 – 0:30:33] Adam: I don’t like it.
[0:30:34 – 0:30:34] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:30:34 – 0:30:38] Erik: I don’t like the idea of something crawling around under the stage.
[0:30:38 – 0:30:40] Adam: Yeah, it might be a large snack.
[0:30:43 – 0:30:52] Adam: Seeing the success of RBW, Ostrom reemerged into the marketplace with their packs again, except also now made in Asia.
[0:30:53 – 0:31:09] Adam: but are priced a lot higher than rbw and i think they might no longer be friendly with each other oh no man ostrom and rbw are fighting real falling out i have two old ostrom packs they last forever and purchase those from retiring paddlers
[0:31:09 – 0:31:11] Adam: I line them with new RBW pack liners.
[0:31:12 – 0:31:14] Adam: The RBW packs appear to be super good value.
[0:31:14 – 0:31:16] Adam: Super good value.
[0:31:16 – 0:31:17] Adam: And the owner is always innovating.
[0:31:19 – 0:31:23] Adam: RBW barrel coolers, organized bags, all very popular.
[0:31:23 – 0:31:26] Adam: The Canadian Outdoor Equipment Store is a gem of a store, by the way.
[0:31:26 – 0:31:27] Adam: Thank you.
[0:31:27 – 0:31:30] Adam: And Gobi in my pants responded with a thank you.
[0:31:31 – 0:31:34] Adam: I bought my axe from them last year, and I saw the pack.
[0:31:34 – 0:31:34] Adam: All right.
[0:31:36 – 0:31:36] Adam: So…
[0:31:38 – 0:32:05] Adam: this is quite the thread they got going on rbw here i’m not sure exactly where to i’m not sure where to scroll to here eric i want to screw this up i’ll uh i’ll leave it with the response from goby there uh and you can go ahead and you know better than i where the next real comment is sure we don’t want to let’s just look at the link here oh yeah you’re gonna go for it
[0:32:06 – 0:32:15] Erik: Yeah, I mean, it just looks like a canoe pack with maybe an extra strap or two here or there.
[0:32:17 – 0:32:17] Adam: Yeah.
[0:32:18 – 0:32:19] Adam: It’s got some nice side strappage.
[0:32:20 – 0:32:20] Erik: Yeah.
[0:32:22 – 0:32:29] Adam: I don’t know if people think you’re supposed to stick stuff in those, but those are really just to snug it down a little bit to make the snuggling better.
[0:32:31 – 0:32:31] Adam: Right?
[0:32:31 – 0:32:32] Adam: Those are snuggins.
[0:32:32 – 0:32:34] Erik: Well, this one’s got a picture of Stuggins.
[0:32:34 – 0:32:36] Erik: Oh, you could put an axe over there, sure.
[0:32:36 – 0:32:37] Erik: Axe strapped in.
[0:32:37 – 0:32:39] Erik: Maybe that’s like a little pouch thing that can hold it.
[0:32:39 – 0:32:42] Adam: Yeah, I think that’s what you got going there.
[0:32:42 – 0:32:43] Adam: That is nice, actually.
[0:32:43 – 0:32:48] Adam: That’s the perfect spot to put a camp cooker, too, probably.
[0:32:48 – 0:32:48] Erik: Probably.
[0:32:50 – 0:32:52] Erik: Ooh, it’s got like a little frame on the inside too.
[0:32:53 – 0:32:53] Erik: Oh.
[0:32:53 – 0:32:58] Erik: I don’t know how I feel about that, but probably helps in some ways, depending on what you’re packing.
[0:33:00 – 0:33:00] Erik: Select your pack.
[0:33:01 – 0:33:02] Erik: Kallur.
[0:33:02 – 0:33:03] Erik: Okay.
[0:33:03 – 0:33:04] Erik: Red or green.
[0:33:05 – 0:33:05] Erik: Nice.
[0:33:05 – 0:33:06] Erik: Kallur.
[0:33:06 – 0:33:07] Adam: Have you seen anything over here?
[0:33:08 – 0:33:09] Erik: I haven’t seen anything, no.
[0:33:09 – 0:33:11] Adam: I haven’t really heard anything either.
[0:33:11 – 0:33:15] Adam: She’s just acting like the shed’s infested right now with monsters.
[0:33:16 – 0:33:17] Erik: Got a lot of heavy sniffing.
[0:33:18 – 0:33:25] Adam: If anybody’s been listening to this episode on headphones, you can probably hear Arrow sniffing around underneath my chair right now.
[0:33:25 – 0:33:25] Erik: Yep.
[0:33:26 – 0:33:28] Erik: Road rage.
[0:33:30 – 0:33:31] Adam: Like road, like you’re rowing a paddle?
[0:33:32 – 0:33:32] Adam: Yes.
[0:33:32 – 0:33:33] Adam: Or rowing a boat, I guess.
[0:33:34 – 0:33:34] Erik: Rowing a paddle.
[0:33:35 – 0:33:36] Adam: You don’t row a boat, bud.
[0:33:38 – 0:33:40] Erik: Yeah, I believe that this is not a first time.
[0:33:42 – 0:33:43] Erik: A ULA circuit?
[0:33:58 – 0:33:59] Erik: And carry the canoe.
[0:33:59 – 0:34:05] Erik: My wife uses a granite gear Quetico and carries the paddles and anything extra.
[0:34:05 – 0:34:10] Erik: We’re about to single portage with this setup with our longest trip at seven days.
[0:34:11 – 0:34:13] Erik: Oh, they’re able to, not they’re about to.
[0:34:13 – 0:34:14] Erik: I think we went longer.
[0:34:16 – 0:34:21] Erik: I think if we went longer, we would need to go with two portage packs and leave the circuit at home.
[0:34:21 – 0:34:22] Erik: Yeah, I can’t.
[0:34:22 – 0:34:25] Erik: I’m just picturing a little hiking backpack.
[0:34:26 – 0:34:28] Erik: Can’t picture the circuit itself.
[0:34:28 – 0:34:34] Erik: We do take less than a lot of people because we’re used to hiking for hundreds of miles or more and can get by with minimal gear.
[0:34:36 – 0:34:39] Erik: Hun, have you cut the toothbrushes in half yet?
[0:34:40 – 0:34:41] Adam: You don’t need handles.
[0:34:41 – 0:34:43] Adam: Just duct tape it to your finger.
[0:34:44 – 0:34:45] Adam: That could be one of the liquid fingers.
[0:34:45 – 0:34:47] Adam: It’s just the toothbrush.
[0:34:47 – 0:34:48] Adam: Toothpaste with a brush.
[0:34:48 – 0:34:50] Adam: It just oozes out.
[0:34:50 – 0:34:51] Adam: Yeah, with toothpaste in it.
[0:34:52 – 0:34:53] Adam: Your finger is the brush.
[0:34:54 – 0:34:56] Adam: The liquid is the toothpaste.
[0:34:57 – 0:35:00] Erik: You just dry them off with the bottom of your t-shirt.
[0:35:01 – 0:35:03] Erik: Because you need to dry the teeth off after you brush them.
[0:35:04 – 0:35:06] Adam: Yeah, otherwise it defeats the whole purpose.
[0:35:06 – 0:35:06] Adam: Yep.
[0:35:06 – 0:35:07] Adam: You leave them wet.
[0:35:07 – 0:35:09] Adam: It’s like washing a car.
[0:35:09 – 0:35:10] Adam: You got to buff it afterwards and dry it off.
[0:35:10 – 0:35:11] Adam: Yeah, for the best shine.
[0:35:12 – 0:35:12] Erik: Mm-hmm.
[0:35:12 – 0:35:13] Erik: Let it shine.
[0:35:13 – 0:35:16] Erik: Let them see those shiny twinklers.
[0:35:17 – 0:35:19] Adam: That’s what they call them, right?
[0:35:19 – 0:35:20] Adam: Let the grouse see you smile.
[0:35:21 – 0:35:21] Adam: Yeah.
[0:35:21 – 0:35:24] Adam: Let them know you’re friendly and that you’re not going to try and steal their Covey.
[0:35:25 – 0:35:26] Adam: He’s going for the Covey.
[0:35:26 – 0:35:26] Adam: He’s
[0:35:27 – 0:35:28] Erik: No, I’m going this way.
[0:35:29 – 0:35:31] Adam: There’s no Kobe in this ditch.
[0:35:32 – 0:35:35] Adam: Certainly not a whole bunch of chicks down here.
[0:35:39 – 0:35:40] Adam: Wow, he’s not fooled.
[0:35:43 – 0:35:46] Adam: You got the number for that acting school, Maverick?
[0:35:46 – 0:35:49] Adam: I really need to work on my performance here.
[0:35:50 – 0:35:52] Erik: We got a holler, double zero.
[0:35:52 – 0:35:53] Erik: Zero.
[0:35:54 – 0:35:55] Erik: Maybe a first-timer.
[0:35:56 – 0:36:00] Erik: CCS Guide Packs plus a couple Seal Line Pro Dry Packs.
[0:36:01 – 0:36:04] Erik: If we could afford it, they would all be CCS Guide Packs.
[0:36:05 – 0:36:06] Erik: Best Portage Pack made.
[0:36:07 – 0:36:10] Erik: Yeah, I think we don’t need to sit down at the end of this and rank anything.
[0:36:10 – 0:36:11] Adam: It’s CCS.
[0:36:11 – 0:36:12] Adam: Number one.
[0:36:12 – 0:36:14] Adam: Everybody else is wannabes.
[0:36:14 – 0:36:14] Adam: Yeah.
[0:36:15 – 0:36:16] Adam: But they’re all fine.
[0:36:16 – 0:36:17] Erik: Yeah, they’re all fine, too.
[0:36:17 – 0:36:21] Erik: Granite Gear Portage Packs are a distant second, but also very good.
[0:36:22 – 0:36:22] Erik: Yeah.
[0:36:22 – 0:36:25] Adam: Anybody got any old school CCS packs?
[0:36:25 – 0:36:27] Adam: Anybody retiring out there?
[0:36:27 – 0:36:28] Adam: Want to send them our way?
[0:36:28 – 0:36:30] Adam: I got a couple good years left in me.
[0:36:31 – 0:36:33] Adam: I’ll honor your pack in the right way.
[0:36:34 – 0:36:34] Erik: Sure.
[0:36:35 – 0:36:39] Erik: We used to sell a few of them at Clearwater and they would always be the first things snapped up by anybody.
[0:36:40 – 0:36:41] Erik: At the garage sale?
[0:36:41 – 0:36:42] Erik: Old packs, yeah.
[0:36:42 – 0:36:42] Erik: Yeah.
[0:36:43 – 0:36:46] Erik: Got a back-to-back comment here from Door Bluff.
[0:36:47 – 0:36:50] Erik: I’ll get through here and then pass her back.
[0:36:51 – 0:36:54] Erik: One of our favorites is down the line here.
[0:36:54 – 0:36:57] Erik: Door Bluff, CCS Guide, Minnesota made.
[0:36:57 – 0:37:01] Erik: I also have a liner from Recreational Barrel Works.
[0:37:01 – 0:37:01] Erik: Wow.
[0:37:02 – 0:37:02] Erik: Now we know.
[0:37:02 – 0:37:03] Erik: Now we know.
[0:37:03 – 0:37:06] Adam: Yeah, we’re pros when it comes to RBWs.
[0:37:06 – 0:37:07] Erik: RBW?
[0:37:07 – 0:37:09] Erik: Yeah, you didn’t hear about the merger?
[0:37:09 – 0:37:09] Erik: No.
[0:37:11 – 0:37:11] Erik: Small enough.
[0:37:11 – 0:37:13] Erik: And the subsequent rivalry.
[0:37:13 – 0:37:15] Erik: And the subsequent rivalry that still rages on to this day.
[0:37:16 – 0:37:18] Adam: Don’t you dare come to this side of the Thunder Bay.
[0:37:19 – 0:37:22] Erik: I totally forgot about what was the other name of the pack that was mentioned?
[0:37:23 – 0:37:23] Adam: Orgos.
[0:37:25 – 0:37:25] Erik: Ostrom.
[0:37:26 – 0:37:27] Erik: Ostrom.
[0:37:27 – 0:37:28] Erik: Ostrom.
[0:37:28 – 0:37:29] Adam: Yeah, that’s what I said.
[0:37:29 – 0:37:30] Adam: Orgos.
[0:37:30 – 0:37:30] Adam: Yeah.
[0:37:32 – 0:37:39] Erik: Small enough all cinched down for solo and big enough to lug me and my two boys gear as well.
[0:37:40 – 0:37:49] Erik: Forgot to mention, for non-canoe trips, I have a really light black diamond pack that has been put through its paces of rock climbing and backpacking.
[0:37:49 – 0:37:50] Erik: I forget the name of it.
[0:37:50 – 0:37:51] Erik: Okay.
[0:37:52 – 0:37:52] Erik: Good info.
[0:37:54 – 0:37:55] Adam: Thanks for that.
[0:37:55 – 0:37:56] Adam: Thanks for that.
[0:38:01 – 0:38:03] Adam: Next up on the show, Massive Exercise 659.
[0:38:03 – 0:38:04] Adam: Massive Exercise
[0:38:07 – 0:38:29] Adam: humiliate trail massive exercise with you massive exercise uh three boxes of wine i use two army double bags lined with heavy duty garbage bags they have been they have built-in backpack straps and are definitely bigger than most packs i see out there biggest problem with them is if they are packed wrong which is normally the case
[0:38:30 – 0:38:34] Adam: You have things pushing into your back that you don’t want pushing there, but the price is right.
[0:38:35 – 0:38:36] Adam: Ain’t that price?
[0:38:36 – 0:38:38] Adam: The price is right.
[0:38:38 – 0:38:40] Erik: I’m getting jabbed with a broiler here.
[0:38:40 – 0:38:41] Adam: Yeah, that’s all right.
[0:38:41 – 0:38:47] Adam: Pack them right, or do your best at least, but they’re all going to sit in the bottom of a canoe just the same.
[0:38:49 – 0:38:54] Adam: And especially since you got them in the heavy-duty garbage bags, everything’s going to be dry in there, which is the most important thing.
[0:38:55 – 0:38:57] Adam: Where’s the nearest Army surplus?
[0:38:58 – 0:39:23] Erik: is there one in the twin ports uh you gotta go to like cloquet uh i bet you there’s one down there somewhere i don’t know if i’ve been to it i know i can picture a few down in the cities but i can’t picture any down in either duluth or superior i think there is one oh no it’s at goodwill as you’re going across the bridge that’s there goodwill like port authority headquarters yeah it’s the craziest place for a goodwill it’s like in the down by the docks
[0:39:24 – 0:39:25] Adam: You don’t want to know what’s going on down there.
[0:39:25 – 0:39:26] Erik: What’s going on here?
[0:39:27 – 0:39:31] Adam: Donations, goodwill, crimes.
[0:39:31 – 0:39:36] Erik: I mean, that’s where most of the crimes are committed if TV and movies have taught me anything.
[0:39:36 – 0:39:36] Erik: Exactly.
[0:39:37 – 0:39:38] Erik: I’ve seen a bunch of forklifts.
[0:39:38 – 0:39:40] Adam: There’s probably a crime going on.
[0:39:40 – 0:39:40] Erik: Mm-hmm.
[0:39:41 – 0:39:46] Adam: Next up on the show, dear friend of the show, Dog Shit Sandwich.
[0:39:46 – 0:39:48] Adam: 38 days ago with three boxes of wine.
[0:39:49 – 0:39:49] Adam: Thank you.
[0:39:50 – 0:39:51] Adam: Thank you for writing.
[0:39:52 – 0:39:53] Adam: Granite gear all the way.
[0:39:54 – 0:39:58] Adam: Food pack bought new came with an insulated liner.
[0:39:58 – 0:40:00] Adam: Four-nighter trips for six people.
[0:40:00 – 0:40:04] Adam: Coldest foods at the bottom and with room for all cook mess items.
[0:40:04 – 0:40:08] Adam: It’s heavy as hell on day one, but we eat the heavy food early.
[0:40:08 – 0:40:10] Adam: That’s the way to do it.
[0:40:10 – 0:40:11] Adam: Absolutely.
[0:40:11 – 0:40:12] Adam: That’s the order you eat stuff in.
[0:40:13 – 0:40:15] Adam: That’s why we do salads last.
[0:40:15 – 0:40:16] Adam: They don’t weigh very much.
[0:40:16 – 0:40:16] Adam: Yep.
[0:40:17 – 0:40:18] Adam: Heavy foods first.
[0:40:18 – 0:40:20] Adam: Although we did save meatloaf till the end almost.
[0:40:21 – 0:40:22] Adam: Yeah, those weren’t that heavy.
[0:40:22 – 0:40:23] Adam: They weren’t very big, but they were dense.
[0:40:23 – 0:40:24] Adam: They were.
[0:40:25 – 0:40:26] Adam: Packed with power and love.
[0:40:27 – 0:40:27] Erik: Yeah.
[0:40:27 – 0:40:36] Adam: Used granite gear pack for my spouse and me holds three dry bags, one each of clothes and one that holds all sleep and shelter items.
[0:40:36 – 0:40:39] Adam: We stuff odds and ends that can afford to get wet in there as well.
[0:40:40 – 0:40:45] Adam: Spouse carries a day pack for all her items and some of mine like water, the camera, etc.
[0:40:46 – 0:40:48] Adam: Very important.
[0:40:48 – 0:40:54] Adam: All of our bags of wine plus a two liter platy of whiskey go into a separate beat up dry bag.
[0:40:55 – 0:40:56] Adam: The loose juice bag.
[0:40:56 – 0:40:57] Erik: Nice.
[0:40:57 – 0:41:00] Adam: Once enough bags are empty, this goes into the food pack.
[0:41:00 – 0:41:02] Adam: Yeah, that’s the natural order of things.
[0:41:03 – 0:41:04] Adam: I love it.
[0:41:04 – 0:41:08] Adam: No, I absolutely love the term loose juice bag.
[0:41:09 – 0:41:11] Adam: Yeah, the juice is on the loose.
[0:41:11 – 0:41:14] Adam: That’s what you call that, the juice bag.
[0:41:14 – 0:41:18] Adam: We always kind of throw our wines all over the place on our trips.
[0:41:18 – 0:41:23] Adam: You just sort of sprinkle a couple in this pack, a couple in that pack, try to make it fair, keep one loose.
[0:41:23 – 0:41:31] Erik: Inevitably, it seemed like, especially on those five-day trips we would take where we knew we had to bring a lot of wine.
[0:41:32 – 0:41:35] Erik: You get a few on the bottom of that bear barrel for later.
[0:41:35 – 0:41:35] Adam: Yeah.
[0:41:36 – 0:41:42] Erik: That always caused a few problems, but we always managed to get through it.
[0:41:43 – 0:41:44] Adam: We always persevere.
[0:41:44 – 0:41:44] Adam: Yeah.
[0:41:45 – 0:41:46] Adam: Yeah.
[0:41:46 – 0:41:47] Adam: You got to eat the heavy stuff and drink.
[0:41:47 – 0:41:49] Adam: You got to eat and drink the heavy stuff first.
[0:41:49 – 0:41:50] Adam: That’s the key here.
[0:41:51 – 0:41:52] Adam: The loose juice bag.
[0:41:52 – 0:41:54] Adam: Loose juice bag.
[0:41:54 – 0:41:55] Adam: That’s a great one.
[0:41:55 – 0:41:56] Adam: Thank you for the comment.
[0:41:58 – 0:42:01] Adam: Next up on the show, dear friend of the show, Friere Jacuzzi.
[0:42:03 – 0:42:06] Adam: 38 days ago, three bags of Wayne.
[0:42:06 – 0:42:11] Adam: I used my backpacking pack, an Osprey Rook 60 liter.
[0:42:11 – 0:42:12] Erik: Wow.
[0:42:12 – 0:42:15] Erik: Not a 37 trillion, but it’ll do.
[0:42:15 – 0:42:17] Erik: Joe, that’s your backpack, huh?
[0:42:21 – 0:42:24] Adam: I’m wearing Lycra Vast while I read this comment.
[0:42:25 – 0:42:36] Adam: It fits perfectly in the bow of my solo canoe, and I find the support distribution to be more comfortable for portaging than any canoe pack I’ve tried yet.
[0:42:37 – 0:42:39] Adam: I single portage by default, so that’s huge.
[0:42:40 – 0:42:44] Adam: Even in a group of two, if we’re doing two packs, my backpack will be one of them.
[0:42:45 – 0:42:49] Adam: In a solo, this may depend on one’s yoke setup,
[0:42:49 – 0:42:53] Adam: But even with my relatively tall pack, I have no problem.
[0:42:54 – 0:42:56] Adam: Is that what the Whipsnake’s making fun of?
[0:42:56 – 0:43:00] Adam: Just like how tall hiking packs get and all the stuff you stack on top of them?
[0:43:00 – 0:43:03] Adam: I got a whole bunch of pots and pans on top.
[0:43:05 – 0:43:05] Adam: Yeah.
[0:43:05 – 0:43:07] Adam: Thank you for the comment, Friere Jacuzzi.
[0:43:08 – 0:43:11] Adam: If you got a pack that you love, just go with it, obviously.
[0:43:12 – 0:43:14] Adam: That’s the smart play.
[0:43:14 – 0:43:14] Adam: Yep.
[0:43:15 – 0:43:16] Erik: That’s called just being smart.
[0:43:16 – 0:43:17] Adam: That’s called just being smart.
[0:43:19 – 0:43:20] Adam: This is the gift that keeps on giving.
[0:43:21 – 0:43:21] Erik: Oh, yeah.
[0:43:22 – 0:43:23] Erik: I got the recommendation.
[0:43:24 – 0:43:24] Erik: Wow.
[0:43:24 – 0:43:25] Erik: Just jumping right into it.
[0:43:25 – 0:43:26] Erik: I am so sorry.
[0:43:26 – 0:43:28] Erik: Lock 314.
[0:43:29 – 0:43:29] Erik: Locky.
[0:43:30 – 0:43:31] Erik: There’s an E on the end of that.
[0:43:31 – 0:43:34] Erik: I’m just going to go ahead and assume it’s lock.
[0:43:34 – 0:43:39] Erik: I got the recommendation to buy an MNZ gear pack.
[0:43:40 – 0:43:45] Erik: It’s in parentheses mnzgear.store a couple of weeks back.
[0:43:45 – 0:43:46] Erik: Mm-hmm.
[0:43:46 – 0:43:46] Adam: Mm-hmm.
[0:43:46 – 0:43:51] Erik: The guy is local to me and called me to discuss it after I sent an email through the site.
[0:43:51 – 0:43:53] Erik: Whoa, that’s aggressive.
[0:43:54 – 0:43:56] Erik: Let me talk to you about this order, all right, bud?
[0:43:56 – 0:43:57] UNKNOWN: Yeah.
[0:43:58 – 0:44:01] Erik: I don’t know if I should be bothered by this or not.
[0:44:01 – 0:44:04] Adam: I mean, it sounds like… Did you fill out the application properly?
[0:44:04 – 0:44:10] Erik: Yeah, potentially great customer service, but also this day and age, very off-putting for a phone call to come in.
[0:44:11 – 0:44:13] Adam: I cannot state how much I do not want this to happen.
[0:44:14 – 0:44:14] Erik: Yeah, no, totally.
[0:44:15 – 0:44:16] Adam: Did you not check my references?
[0:44:16 – 0:44:18] Adam: Did I not provide their phone numbers?
[0:44:18 – 0:44:19] Adam: What are you calling me for?
[0:44:20 – 0:44:24] Erik: He said if I give him specifics on how I like a pack, he will adjust it for me.
[0:44:24 – 0:44:28] Erik: Makes them as a side business, but they look very robust.
[0:44:29 – 0:44:35] Adam: There’s some definitely like secrets and confessions sewn into the insides of the fabric of that pack for sure.
[0:44:35 – 0:44:36] Adam: Sounds, yeah.
[0:44:37 – 0:44:40] Erik: I’m still not 100% sure what’s going on here.
[0:44:42 – 0:44:46] Adam: Probably the maker is being slowly poisoned over time by his lover.
[0:44:47 – 0:44:49] Adam: But it turns out that he likes that.
[0:44:50 – 0:44:50] Erik: Yeah.
[0:44:51 – 0:44:52] Erik: Does that make sense?
[0:44:53 – 0:44:53] Erik: All right.
[0:44:54 – 0:44:55] Adam: I think you’re on to something there.
[0:44:55 – 0:44:57] Adam: Sounds like a real poetic story.
[0:44:58 – 0:45:07] Erik: They are a bit different and have a full zip to front load for better Tetris action, fitting everything in and no digging in the pack.
[0:45:07 – 0:45:08] Erik: I like that.
[0:45:08 – 0:45:09] Erik: Full front zip.
[0:45:09 – 0:45:10] Erik: Yeah, it’s interesting.
[0:45:10 – 0:45:10] Erik: Yeah.
[0:45:10 – 0:45:13] Erik: Instead of having to like root around.
[0:45:13 – 0:45:14] Adam: Yeah.
[0:45:14 – 0:45:17] Erik: Just root around like a truffle pig for whatever you’re looking for.
[0:45:18 – 0:45:20] Adam: You seen that other can of gas?
[0:45:20 – 0:45:21] Adam: Yeah.
[0:45:21 – 0:45:21] Erik: God, I swear there was.
[0:45:22 – 0:45:24] Erik: You seen the water filter?
[0:45:24 – 0:45:24] Erik: Yeah.
[0:45:25 – 0:45:29] Erik: I’m buying one once I get whatever stomach bug is ailing me and I can check them out better.
[0:45:31 – 0:45:34] Erik: It’s very interesting, though, still, the personal call.
[0:45:35 – 0:45:35] Erik: Yeah.
[0:45:37 – 0:45:38] Erik: I’d be very quiet.
[0:45:38 – 0:45:40] Adam: I mean, they’re like… How’d you get this number?
[0:45:41 – 0:45:42] Adam: That’s the weirdest part.
[0:45:42 – 0:45:45] Adam: I never provided a phone number.
[0:45:45 – 0:45:46] Adam: Yeah.
[0:45:46 – 0:45:47] Adam: Instantly, it was at my door.
[0:45:47 – 0:45:53] Adam: I had a motion detector alarm, and the pack maker was on my porch.
[0:45:53 – 0:45:54] Erik: Yeah, I’m wary.
[0:45:54 – 0:45:55] Erik: I’m very wary.
[0:45:56 – 0:45:57] Erik: Anytime my phone rings.
[0:45:57 – 0:45:58] Adam: Let me in your home.
[0:45:59 – 0:46:01] Adam: I want to discuss the pack.
[0:46:05 – 0:46:07] Adam: How many liters is your boat?
[0:46:07 – 0:46:09] Erik: Yeah, what kind of a…
[0:46:10 – 0:46:10] Adam: I need pictures.
[0:46:11 – 0:46:13] Erik: What kind of a waistline are we working with here, bud?
[0:46:15 – 0:46:17] Adam: How much can you bench press?
[0:46:18 – 0:46:20] Adam: What’s your worst fear?
[0:46:23 – 0:46:25] Erik: Where do you see yourself in five years?
[0:46:26 – 0:46:27] Erik: That’s the last one.
[0:46:28 – 0:46:29] Adam: Hey, what?
[0:46:30 – 0:46:31] Erik: It says the faded comment.
[0:46:31 – 0:46:32] Erik: I don’t know what’s up with that.
[0:46:32 – 0:46:33] Adam: Why is it faded?
[0:46:33 – 0:46:33] Adam: Why was it removed?
[0:46:33 – 0:46:34] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:46:34 – 0:46:36] Adam: Can you remove your own comment?
[0:46:36 – 0:46:38] Erik: Maybe, but it still shows the comment.
[0:46:38 – 0:46:39] Adam: I can see it, though.
[0:46:39 – 0:46:40] Erik: Yeah, don’t read that one.
[0:46:40 – 0:46:48] Erik: Just read the one that I… All right, I won’t read the one that… Maybe there’s some personal information in there he doesn’t want on the… Yeah, he just…
[0:46:48 – 0:46:55] Adam: He got uploaded a copy of his resume, it looked like, here to the pack company, and it swiped left.
[0:46:55 – 0:46:57] Adam: I was just being hounded by a pack company.
[0:46:58 – 0:46:59] Erik: How can I make this right?
[0:47:02 – 0:47:04] Adam: What’s the… Yeah, I don’t know.
[0:47:04 – 0:47:05] Adam: Gil from The Simpsons?
[0:47:05 – 0:47:06] Adam: Yeah.
[0:47:06 – 0:47:07] Erik: Come on, let’s buy my packs, guys.
[0:47:09 – 0:47:17] Adam: Next up on the show, dear friend of the show, Scotty Baldwin, 39 days ago, with four boxes of wine on the upvote tally.
[0:47:18 – 0:47:24] Adam: In the For What It’s Worth pile, Duluth Pack is a heavy right-wing-leaning company, politically speaking.
[0:47:24 – 0:47:25] Erik: Oh, boy.
[0:47:25 – 0:47:25] Adam: Oh, no.
[0:47:25 – 0:47:30] Adam: So if that’s not your bag, so to speak, then maybe Duluth Pack is not your bag, literally.
[0:47:30 – 0:47:31] Adam: Yeah.
[0:47:31 – 0:47:41] Adam: I truly don’t mean to get too political here, but I do know that the Tumble Homeboys are decidedly not in the right-wing camp, nor am I. I mean, who said that?
[0:47:41 – 0:47:47] Adam: I don’t remember ever saying anything directly to any political cause one way or another.
[0:47:49 – 0:48:17] Adam: he may have deduced it through subtle clues I don’t know Eric through 260 episodes of us talking I guess we may have let on a little of our personal beliefs in the last 250 some episodes news to me anyways you did get political but thank you I thought I would slightly poke the bear by bringing that up okay cut to an hour later still talking about it
[0:48:19 – 0:48:45] Erik: uh all right um i forgot about that didn’t you didn’t like ivanka show up and do a photo shoot at their office or something now we’re now we’re gonna get in hot water maybe yeah i think i do recall something along those lines like they have a store in new york city or something on like madison avenue oh and then she went into and maybe the owners are friends i don’t know this is how this is how uh all the rumors kind of just get started i’m like
[0:48:46 – 0:48:49] Adam: Well, I already decided I wanted a CCS pack next anyways, so.
[0:48:50 – 0:48:50] Adam: Yeah.
[0:48:50 – 0:48:51] Adam: Not going to change my mind.
[0:48:51 – 0:48:54] Adam: Actually, I had to say I want the one that’s got the most tumps.
[0:48:55 – 0:48:55] Erik: Most?
[0:48:55 – 0:48:56] Erik: More than one tump?
[0:48:57 – 0:48:57] Adam: Extra tumps.
[0:48:57 – 0:48:59] Adam: A top tump and a bottom tump?
[0:48:59 – 0:49:00] Adam: Uh-huh.
[0:49:00 – 0:49:01] Erik: Where does the bottom tump go to?
[0:49:01 – 0:49:02] Erik: Your butt.
[0:49:02 – 0:49:03] Erik: Wow.
[0:49:03 – 0:49:07] Erik: How does that work?
[0:49:07 – 0:49:10] Erik: It’s to offset the top tump.
[0:49:10 – 0:49:13] Adam: Yeah, I saw it in Manhattan, Eric.
[0:49:14 – 0:49:15] Erik: Yeah.
[0:49:15 – 0:49:16] Erik: Tump Tower.
[0:49:17 – 0:49:17] Erik: Yep.
[0:49:18 – 0:49:18] Erik: That’s where I seen it.
[0:49:18 – 0:49:19] Erik: There it is.
[0:49:19 – 0:49:20] Adam: All right.
[0:49:20 – 0:49:21] Adam: There it is.
[0:49:21 – 0:49:23] Adam: Thanks for the comments, everyone.
[0:49:24 – 0:49:25] Adam: We had a lot of fun with the packs.
[0:49:26 – 0:49:27] Adam: That was a good thread.
[0:49:29 – 0:49:30] Adam: Do you have who started the thread?
[0:49:30 – 0:49:36] Adam: I think we already shouted this out last week, but deserves a reshot because that was a gold mine.
[0:49:36 – 0:49:36] Adam: Kobe.
[0:49:37 – 0:49:38] Adam: Gobi, yeah.
[0:49:38 – 0:49:45] Adam: Gobi in my pants with a really good thread and question of the weeks.
[0:49:45 – 0:49:46] Adam: It’s always fun talking gear.
[0:49:47 – 0:49:49] Adam: It’s just a great excuse to jump in and talk gear.
[0:49:49 – 0:49:51] Adam: A lot of good things to think about.
[0:49:53 – 0:49:55] Adam: But, yeah, I don’t know.
[0:49:55 – 0:49:58] Adam: It’s all about the little packs that you put inside the big packs too for me.
[0:49:59 – 0:50:00] Erik: Oh, those are the most fun.
[0:50:00 – 0:50:02] Adam: Yeah, those are the most fun.
[0:50:03 – 0:50:05] Adam: That’s what changes more for me than anything.
[0:50:05 – 0:50:09] Adam: It’s not the actual big packs because we got the ones we got and they work fine.
[0:50:10 – 0:50:38] Adam: and no complaints there but i’m like constantly kind of just tinkering with the the miniature packs and which goes in each one and uh you know trying to get that down to a reasonable size of smaller packs yeah and then uh you know i don’t know that’s part of the hammocking game too it’s like it’s less stuff but there’s like more individual items yeah you know but overall volume on the setup is smaller so you just end up with a lot of moving parts so i like to
[0:50:39 – 0:51:02] Adam: you know get little packs that hold the teensy stuff and then you know medium pack that holds some of the little packs yeah you know what i’m saying oh i know i totally do all the little i mean there’s so many little bags that the especially the hammock setup goes in yeah and then without fail i cannot find the party lights which bag are they in sometimes there’s too many bags
[0:51:03 – 0:51:07] Adam: I got a neat little Tupperware.
[0:51:07 – 0:51:11] Adam: You could fit all sorts of leftovers in there, but I decided it’s like four compartments in there.
[0:51:13 – 0:51:16] Adam: It’s an old school piece and the lid fits on there real nice.
[0:51:17 – 0:51:19] Adam: I brought that on our trip too.
[0:51:19 – 0:51:27] Adam: It was like a little miniature tackle box of just personal belongings and elixirs and potions.
[0:51:27 – 0:51:29] Adam: That was my potion tub.
[0:51:29 – 0:51:31] Erik: Yeah, your Hunter S. Thompson
[0:51:32 – 0:51:48] Erik: drug suitcase i didn’t say that elixirs and potions your ethers and yeah nitrates yeah plasmas that’s where i keep my plasmas it’s a good place you never know when you’re gonna need one bandages
[0:51:50 – 0:52:13] Adam: yeah i think stickers that’s where i had the stickers i had some more stickers in there too backup stickers backup uh in case somebody in case we met somebody on the first portage and they took all the yeah the dildo and got cleaned out i had backup stickers ready to go too you are a half glass full kind of a guy aren’t you i just want to meet you folks i just want to say hi and pat you on the back
[0:52:14 – 0:52:15] Erik: Pat you right on the pack.
[0:52:15 – 0:52:16] Erik: Yeah, well, that’s going to do it.
[0:52:16 – 0:52:20] Adam: I’m going to grasp you by the shoulder and ask you about your trip.
[0:52:22 – 0:52:23] Erik: That’s allowed.
[0:52:24 – 0:52:26] Erik: Grasp you by the shoulder.
[0:52:26 – 0:52:27] Erik: Firmly.
[0:52:27 – 0:52:30] Erik: Hey, where are you going?
[0:52:30 – 0:52:30] Erik: Please don’t.
[0:52:30 – 0:52:33] Erik: Are you trying to squirm out of this?
[0:52:33 – 0:52:33] Erik: No.
[0:52:33 – 0:52:35] Adam: Do you want me to take that pack for you?
[0:52:36 – 0:52:37] Adam: I’m going that way.
[0:52:37 – 0:52:38] Adam: Why are you going that way?
[0:52:39 – 0:52:40] Adam: Leave us alone.
[0:52:40 – 0:52:42] Erik: Because you’re going that way.
[0:52:43 – 0:52:44] Adam: You took the stickers, though.
[0:52:44 – 0:52:46] Adam: Now I’m going to follow you.
[0:52:47 – 0:52:50] Adam: Now we’re going where you’re going, because we’re homies, right?
[0:52:51 – 0:52:52] Adam: Right, cousin?
[0:52:53 – 0:52:57] Adam: All right, well, thank you for the comments, everyone.
[0:52:57 – 0:53:04] Adam: It is late, and it is Monday, and Arrow is still hunting whatever is under the stage, so I think we’re going to have to leave this one be.
[0:53:04 – 0:53:06] Erik: Yeah, we don’t want to get too on-setted.
[0:53:06 – 0:53:12] Erik: I don’t know how that would make for overall podcasting quality.
[0:53:12 – 0:53:14] Erik: Probably would diminish at some point, you know.
[0:53:15 – 0:53:16] Adam: Probably at some point.
[0:53:16 – 0:53:16] Erik: At some point.
[0:53:17 – 0:53:17] Erik: Yeah.
[0:53:17 – 0:53:23] Erik: I don’t know if we really started at much of a high bar that we had to keep up, but I don’t know.
[0:53:23 – 0:53:30] Erik: I do appreciate the THC beverages from time to time, but typically doesn’t have me at my sharpest.
[0:53:31 – 0:53:32] Adam: Yeah.
[0:53:33 – 0:53:33] Adam: I enjoy them.
[0:53:34 – 0:53:35] Adam: It’s a perfect night for one.
[0:53:35 – 0:53:35] Adam: Yeah.
[0:53:35 – 0:53:36] Adam: It totally is.
[0:53:36 – 0:53:37] Adam: Very refreshing.
[0:53:37 – 0:53:38] Erik: Very refreshing.
[0:53:38 – 0:53:40] Adam: Thank you, DirtyDodbot and friends.
[0:53:40 – 0:53:40] Adam: Thank you.
[0:53:41 – 0:53:42] Erik: I’m specifically going to thank the friends.
[0:53:43 – 0:53:43] Erik: Thank you, guys.
[0:53:43 – 0:53:44] Adam: They were super cool.
[0:53:45 – 0:53:45] Adam: I’m sure.
[0:53:48 – 0:53:50] Adam: I mean that with all sincerity.
[0:53:50 – 0:53:51] Adam: They were cool.
[0:53:51 – 0:53:52] Erik: I believe you.
[0:53:52 – 0:53:52] Adam: Thank you.
[0:53:53 – 0:53:55] Adam: I think they all got the garlic lovers pasta.
[0:53:55 – 0:53:55] Adam: Well, there you go.
[0:53:55 – 0:53:57] Adam: You can tell they really have it together.
[0:53:57 – 0:53:58] Adam: It’s a true sign.
[0:53:58 – 0:53:59] Adam: Yeah.
[0:53:59 – 0:54:00] Erik: With a cool guy.
[0:54:00 – 0:54:01] Adam: Cool guys.
[0:54:02 – 0:54:03] Adam: You like the extra garlic, yeah?
[0:54:03 – 0:54:04] Adam: Mm-hmm.
[0:54:04 – 0:54:05] Adam: I made that one with the extra heap.
[0:54:06 – 0:54:07] Adam: An extra heap.
[0:54:08 – 0:54:09] Adam: It’s the middle of July.
[0:54:09 – 0:54:11] Adam: You got to throw an extra heap of garlic in.
[0:54:11 – 0:54:11] Erik: Yep.
[0:54:12 – 0:54:12] Adam: All right.
[0:54:13 – 0:54:14] Adam: Episode 257?
[0:54:14 – 0:54:15] Erik: 257.
[0:54:15 – 0:54:20] Erik: You want people to be able to smell that you ate some garlic lover’s pasta hours after consuming it.
[0:54:21 – 0:54:21] Adam: Thank you.
[0:54:22 – 0:54:23] Adam: All right, Eric.
[0:54:23 – 0:54:23] Adam: Thanks for being here.
[0:54:24 – 0:54:25] Adam: Yes.
[0:54:25 – 0:54:28] Adam: Going to blast some chiptune Fleetwood Mac now or what?
[0:54:28 – 0:54:29] Erik: Yeah, I’m going to try and find some.
[0:54:30 – 0:54:36] Erik: I’ve got the longest period of time in between when this actually will get posted.
[0:54:36 – 0:54:39] Adam: You could probably contact the marching band itself.
[0:54:39 – 0:54:42] Erik: I could probably put something out on a subreddit somewhere asking for help.
[0:54:43 – 0:54:46] Erik: Somebody would make one for me if I paid them money, I’m sure.
[0:54:46 – 0:54:47] Erik: I’ll find something.
[0:54:47 – 0:54:48] Adam: I’ll give you bits and chips.
[0:54:49 – 0:54:51] Adam: Bits and chips for everyone.
[0:54:51 – 0:54:52] Adam: All right.
[0:54:52 – 0:54:54] Adam: Have a good night, Eric.
[0:54:55 – 0:54:57] Adam: Smooth.
[0:54:58 – 0:54:58] Adam: Good night.
[0:54:59 – 0:55:00] Erik: Good night.
[0:55:20 – 0:55:26] SPEAKER_00: Don’t say that you love me Just tell me that you want me
[0:55:49 – 0:55:50] SPEAKER_00: Just say that you love me