We are primitively exploring the Sundial Positive Mental Attitude Area today. The world record for number of promises kept streak is on the line as we try to keep it under an hour yet again.
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[0:00:15 – 0:00:15] UNKNOWN: Thank you.
[0:00:37 – 0:00:38] Adam: It is now after dark.
[0:00:59 – 0:01:00] ErikTSN: My God.
[0:01:00 – 0:01:00] ErikTSN: Finally.
[0:01:01 – 0:01:04] Adam: And we killed all the mosquitoes that were in the shed earlier.
[0:01:04 – 0:01:08] Adam: We just did a couple hours of just slapping and smacking.
[0:01:08 – 0:01:12] Adam: And now the shed is dark.
[0:01:12 – 0:01:13] Adam: Oh, my.
[0:01:13 – 0:01:14] Adam: And mosquito free.
[0:01:15 – 0:01:15] ErikTSN: Yeah.
[0:01:16 – 0:01:19] ErikTSN: Surely we won’t run into any more mosquitoes for the rest of the night.
[0:01:21 – 0:01:27] Adam: This is episode 321 of Tumble Home Holy Moly Hot Dog.
[0:01:27 – 0:01:32] Adam: This is a hot dog like that hot dog island on Kakakabic Lake last week.
[0:01:32 – 0:01:33] ErikTSN: Oh, yeah.
[0:01:33 – 0:01:36] ErikTSN: Who can forget hot dog island slowly?
[0:01:36 – 0:01:41] ErikTSN: Just that one hot dog that was Minnesota nice left behind.
[0:01:41 – 0:01:42] Adam: Somebody going to take that?
[0:01:42 – 0:01:44] ErikTSN: It’s getting real shriveled.
[0:01:44 – 0:01:45] Adam: I’m putting it off to the side.
[0:01:45 – 0:01:46] ErikTSN: I’m going to put it off to the side.
[0:01:47 – 0:01:48] ErikTSN: I might poke at it later.
[0:01:48 – 0:01:48] Adam: Yeah.
[0:01:49 – 0:01:51] ErikTSN: I’ll cut it in half and just eat half.
[0:01:52 – 0:01:53] Adam: Somebody’s going to eat it.
[0:01:53 – 0:01:56] ErikTSN: Somebody’s going to eat that half, and then somebody’s going to cut the half in half.
[0:01:57 – 0:01:57] Adam: I’ll just have a nibble.
[0:01:57 – 0:01:58] ErikTSN: I just want a little nibble.
[0:01:59 – 0:02:00] Adam: Anybody else want a nibble?
[0:02:00 – 0:02:01] ErikTSN: All right.
[0:02:01 – 0:02:01] ErikTSN: I’ll do it.
[0:02:01 – 0:02:01] ErikTSN: All right.
[0:02:01 – 0:02:01] ErikTSN: Fine.
[0:02:02 – 0:02:08] Adam: I am not really hungry, but I am thirsty as a swimming bear.
[0:02:09 – 0:02:15] Adam: And happy summer solstice to all our tumble homies out there listening.
[0:02:15 – 0:02:21] Adam: Thank you for tuning in tonight for this solstice episode.
[0:02:21 – 0:02:22] ErikTSN: Tuning in.
[0:02:22 – 0:02:25] Adam: You’ve scrolled the dial.
[0:02:25 – 0:02:28] ErikTSN: Gone by a bunch of things that are, you know.
[0:02:29 – 0:02:31] ErikTSN: Not worth listening to, and you’ve found us.
[0:02:33 – 0:02:40] Adam: We got a special episode tonight on the Sundial PMA primitive management area.
[0:02:40 – 0:02:51] Adam: We’re going deep cut here for episode 321 as we continue to go back to the old formula and recipe of just real technology.
[0:02:51 – 0:02:55] Adam: To the point lake episode and area reviews.
[0:02:55 – 0:02:57] ErikTSN: Just right straight to the point.
[0:02:57 – 0:03:02] Adam: Guaranteed to be a to the point and under an hour every week.
[0:03:03 – 0:03:04] Adam: We always stick to that promise.
[0:03:05 – 0:03:11] Adam: Got ourselves some Corona sun brew, citrus cerveza, and a glass bottle this week.
[0:03:12 – 0:03:16] Adam: La cerveza mas fina.
[0:03:17 – 0:03:23] Adam: And Eric has a tiny little lighter we’re going to use in case these aren’t twist-offs, but they probably are twist-offs.
[0:03:24 – 0:03:26] Adam: Brewed with real orange and lime peels.
[0:03:26 – 0:03:27] Adam: What do you think of that?
[0:03:27 – 0:03:28] ErikTSN: I think that sounds great.
[0:03:29 – 0:03:29] ErikTSN: It sounds perfect.
[0:03:29 – 0:03:30] Adam: Muy autentico.
[0:03:31 – 0:03:32] ErikTSN: Oh, they are pop-offs.
[0:03:32 – 0:03:33] ErikTSN: They are poppers.
[0:03:33 – 0:03:34] ErikTSN: Poppers.
[0:03:34 – 0:03:35] Adam: Let me see that ting.
[0:03:36 – 0:03:37] ErikTSN: It’s not a twist-off.
[0:03:38 – 0:03:39] Adam: That was a pretty good pop.
[0:03:40 – 0:03:43] Adam: Thanks for the small lighter and the large beers.
[0:03:45 – 0:03:48] Adam: Just talking a couple small beers.
[0:03:50 – 0:03:51] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:03:52 – 0:03:53] ErikTSN: Just a couple small beers.
[0:03:55 – 0:03:56] Adam: Thank you.
[0:03:56 – 0:03:57] Adam: Oh, my.
[0:03:57 – 0:03:58] Adam: That was delightful.
[0:04:01 – 0:04:03] Adam: Sweeter than I thought.
[0:04:03 – 0:04:05] Adam: Sweeter than I thought it was going to be, but it’s ice cold.
[0:04:06 – 0:04:07] Adam: That’s got that going for it.
[0:04:08 – 0:04:08] Adam: Yeah.
[0:04:08 – 0:04:09] Adam: Icy.
[0:04:09 – 0:04:11] Adam: Should we throw these back in the mini fridge?
[0:04:12 – 0:04:12] Adam: It’s cold in there.
[0:04:13 – 0:04:14] ErikTSN: The mini fridge that’s not plugged in?
[0:04:14 – 0:04:15] Adam: Yeah, we unplugged it.
[0:04:16 – 0:04:17] Adam: Nobody wants to listen to that.
[0:04:17 – 0:04:18] Adam: Residual.
[0:04:18 – 0:04:20] ErikTSN: It’s got some residual coolness going on in there.
[0:04:20 – 0:04:20] Adam: Come on.
[0:04:20 – 0:04:21] Adam: It sure does.
[0:04:22 – 0:04:27] Adam: Do we have a Fisher map reference for our friends listening at home to follow along?
[0:04:27 – 0:04:29] Adam: I have my Nat Geo West pulled out here.
[0:04:30 – 0:04:31] ErikTSN: Nat Geo West is probably going to be…
[0:04:31 – 0:04:36] Adam: I’ve got it folded appropriately because this is a very big primitive management area.
[0:04:36 – 0:04:37] ErikTSN: Probably going to be your best option.
[0:04:37 – 0:04:39] Adam: I would say… Is this the biggest PMA?
[0:04:41 – 0:04:42] Adam: Fungus is probably bigger.
[0:04:42 – 0:05:00] Adam: fungus but sundial is probably right up there yeah second biggest pma i think i think we’re looking at like an f16 f17 maybe even f9 oh no kind of a confluence yeah this is not a good one for the fishers this is why you just want to get your nat geo west out for this one
[0:05:01 – 0:05:01] ErikTSN: Yeah.
[0:05:03 – 0:05:04] Adam: Because really, it’s rivers.
[0:05:05 – 0:05:10] Adam: It’s rivers and little tiny lakes, and you’re not going to need anything more than a Nat Geo to navigate.
[0:05:10 – 0:05:14] Adam: You’re going to be bushwhacking your way through most of this, so it doesn’t really even matter.
[0:05:14 – 0:05:20] Adam: I would just take a couple screen grabs from Paddle Planner before you head in and go from there.
[0:05:21 – 0:05:28] ErikTSN: So Nihil is the one we were looking at the map, you know, for the solstice and all trying to find something applicable to the time.
[0:05:28 – 0:05:32] ErikTSN: And it’s the one, you know, I’m sure there’s another lake out there that we didn’t see.
[0:05:33 – 0:05:38] ErikTSN: You didn’t really do a search on Sun or whatever.
[0:05:38 – 0:05:40] ErikTSN: There’s no Solstice Lake as far as I know.
[0:05:42 – 0:05:43] ErikTSN: There’s not.
[0:05:43 – 0:05:45] ErikTSN: So this is as close as we could get.
[0:05:45 – 0:05:47] ErikTSN: I don’t know.
[0:05:47 – 0:05:52] ErikTSN: I don’t know if we need to go through the whole rules and regulations of the PMAs.
[0:05:53 – 0:05:56] Adam: Go back and listen to the original PMA episodes for those rules.
[0:05:56 – 0:05:58] Adam: You have to get the special permit.
[0:05:58 – 0:06:00] ErikTSN: You got to get the actual overnight permit to get there.
[0:06:00 – 0:06:01] ErikTSN: It’s paper.
[0:06:01 – 0:06:03] Adam: And then you need a… Handwritten permit.
[0:06:03 – 0:06:07] Adam: It is about as… Nancy signs it herself.
[0:06:07 – 0:06:08] ErikTSN: Yeah, she does.
[0:06:08 – 0:06:14] Adam: She… And then puts it in a little envelope and hands it to you.
[0:06:14 – 0:06:15] Adam: Seals it with…
[0:06:15 – 0:06:16] ErikTSN: It says, be good.
[0:06:16 – 0:06:17] ErikTSN: Yeah, a thumbprint.
[0:06:18 – 0:06:19] Adam: Be good.
[0:06:19 – 0:06:19] Adam: Be good.
[0:06:20 – 0:06:21] Adam: No charcoal, okay, boys?
[0:06:21 – 0:06:22] Adam: No charcoal.
[0:06:23 – 0:06:23] ErikTSN: Um…
[0:06:25 – 0:06:29] ErikTSN: But then, yeah, you get your regular overnight bachelorette’s permit, but then you do need a – it’s free.
[0:06:30 – 0:06:31] ErikTSN: You just have to, like, sign up for it.
[0:06:32 – 0:06:38] ErikTSN: And I think they limit the number of people in certain areas.
[0:06:38 – 0:06:41] ErikTSN: Like, each PMA is then, like, sub –
[0:06:43 – 0:06:59] ErikTSN: like subdivided into like regions and you’re like i’m gonna be in unit bwca wild have the regions yeah it’s like i’m gonna be in like unit one yeah you know like okay well you can be in those but then like you can’t go over to whatever papoose creek if you’re in unit one um
[0:07:01 – 0:07:04] Adam: Oh, I didn’t even consider looking over in Unit 1.
[0:07:05 – 0:07:06] ErikTSN: Nobody ever looks in Unit 1.
[0:07:06 – 0:07:12] ErikTSN: This is opposite flying in the face of the Danielson scale here in terms of how numbering systems work.
[0:07:12 – 0:07:13] ErikTSN: The moon is on the east?
[0:07:14 – 0:07:15] ErikTSN: What is this?
[0:07:16 – 0:07:35] Adam: this is like asian in its reading like it reads east it reads like right to left yeah this is like a curiae wanielson maneuver here exactly exactly took the words right out of my mouth obviously what’s happening here um so yeah five in the middle
[0:07:37 – 0:07:40] ErikTSN: Yeah, Y is 1, 2, 5, 4, 3.
[0:07:40 – 0:07:45] ErikTSN: The most weirdly broken up and numbered system.
[0:07:46 – 0:07:47] ErikTSN: It’s also a PMA number 3.
[0:07:47 – 0:07:48] ErikTSN: It’s primitive.
[0:07:48 – 0:07:49] Adam: It’s primitive.
[0:07:49 – 0:07:50] ErikTSN: We don’t even know how to number.
[0:07:50 – 0:07:52] ErikTSN: We’re going back to the Stone Age.
[0:07:52 – 0:07:54] ErikTSN: I don’t know how numbers work.
[0:07:55 – 0:08:01] Adam: Scratch the little mark in the stone.
[0:08:01 – 0:08:03] ErikTSN: Out of all the PMAs though, this is the most pleasant sounding one.
[0:08:04 – 0:08:05] Adam: Sundial.
[0:08:06 – 0:08:07] ErikTSN: It’s not even close either.
[0:08:07 – 0:08:09] ErikTSN: You know what some of the other names are.
[0:08:09 – 0:08:09] ErikTSN: They’re all horrible.
[0:08:09 – 0:08:10] ErikTSN: Mugwump.
[0:08:10 – 0:08:11] ErikTSN: Tick.
[0:08:11 – 0:08:14] ErikTSN: Fungus.
[0:08:14 – 0:08:15] ErikTSN: Pitfall.
[0:08:15 – 0:08:16] ErikTSN: I’m going to fall in a pit?
[0:08:18 – 0:08:18] Adam: Jesus.
[0:08:19 – 0:08:20] Adam: Weasel.
[0:08:20 – 0:08:21] Adam: Weasel’s not bad.
[0:08:22 – 0:08:22] Adam: Weenie.
[0:08:23 – 0:08:23] Adam: Weenie.
[0:08:23 – 0:08:24] Adam: Cant hook.
[0:08:24 – 0:08:26] Adam: That’s a fisherman’s nightmare.
[0:08:27 – 0:08:29] ErikTSN: Sundial is pleasant.
[0:08:29 – 0:08:29] ErikTSN: It’s nice.
[0:08:31 – 0:08:31] Adam: Sundial.
[0:08:32 – 0:08:32] ErikTSN: Yeah.
[0:08:32 – 0:08:34] ErikTSN: It’s a sunbrew kind of PMA.
[0:08:34 – 0:08:34] ErikTSN: Yeah.
[0:08:35 – 0:08:37] ErikTSN: A sunbrew kind of PMA.
[0:08:37 – 0:08:42] Adam: You’re going to have a primitive management area, but this one’s really more of a positive mental attitude.
[0:08:43 – 0:08:45] ErikTSN: Positive mental attitude area.
[0:08:45 – 0:08:45] ErikTSN: PMAA.
[0:08:45 – 0:08:46] ErikTSN: Yeah.
[0:08:49 – 0:08:50] Adam: It’s a positive mental area.
[0:08:51 – 0:08:52] ErikTSN: Positive mental area.
[0:08:53 – 0:08:53] ErikTSN: Yeah.
[0:08:53 – 0:08:54] ErikTSN: Oh, it’s mental.
[0:08:54 – 0:08:55] ErikTSN: It’s mental.
[0:08:56 – 0:08:57] Adam: Sure is.
[0:08:58 – 0:09:02] Adam: Sundial Lake’s pretty hard to get to, but a feature of this one is Sunday Lake.
[0:09:03 – 0:09:06] Adam: And this episode is coming out on Sunday.
[0:09:07 – 0:09:08] ErikTSN: That’s right in the heart of Zone 5.
[0:09:09 – 0:09:11] Adam: And we’re drinking sun brew.
[0:09:11 – 0:09:11] Adam: Believe it or not.
[0:09:11 – 0:09:15] Adam: Right in the middle, smack dab middle of Zone 5 is Sunday Lake.
[0:09:15 – 0:09:17] ErikTSN: The longest GD day of the year.
[0:09:18 – 0:09:19] ErikTSN: Will it ever end?
[0:09:20 – 0:09:21] ErikTSN: Sometimes.
[0:09:21 – 0:09:23] ErikTSN: Sometimes.
[0:09:23 – 0:09:24] ErikTSN: Sometimes it will end.
[0:09:27 – 0:09:27] ErikTSN: Yeah, I don’t know.
[0:09:27 – 0:09:31] ErikTSN: This one’s like, you can get to it from a number of different entry points.
[0:09:32 – 0:09:34] ErikTSN: Stewart River, Angleworm.
[0:09:35 – 0:09:35] Adam: Angleworm.
[0:09:35 – 0:09:39] ErikTSN: Maybe if you’re a real, you know, hey, we’re up on the big border lakes.
[0:09:39 – 0:09:40] ErikTSN: Let’s pop down to the Sundial PMA.
[0:09:41 – 0:09:44] ErikTSN: That would take some organization on your part, I think, to get those dates right.
[0:09:44 – 0:09:46] ErikTSN: If you were, you know, wanting to be above board.
[0:09:47 – 0:09:47] Adam: Oh, right.
[0:09:47 – 0:09:47] Adam: Sure.
[0:09:48 – 0:09:48] Adam: Yeah.
[0:09:48 – 0:09:49] Adam: Hard to nail it.
[0:09:50 – 0:09:53] Adam: Unless you’re just going to be like base camped up on iron for some reason.
[0:09:53 – 0:09:59] Adam: Then you can just like, oh, next Wednesday we’ll take a jaunt in to the bear trap river.
[0:09:59 – 0:10:06] ErikTSN: It seems like it’s got plenty of routes and rivers in it more than… Yeah, this one’s got legit routes and options.
[0:10:06 – 0:10:10] Adam: For a PMA, there’s a couple established routes, it appears.
[0:10:10 – 0:10:11] ErikTSN: Exactly.
[0:10:11 – 0:10:13] Adam: This isn’t true bushwhacking.
[0:10:14 – 0:10:22] Adam: There certainly is plentiful bushwhacking to be had, but there’s a couple legit routes in here, which is unusual, I would say, for the PMAs.
[0:10:22 – 0:10:30] ErikTSN: I mean, if you want to get to the named lake… Yeah, that one’s going to be hard.
[0:10:31 – 0:10:34] ErikTSN: I don’t think there’s any way to get to Sundial without an absolute…
[0:10:34 – 0:10:35] ErikTSN: Without a fight.
[0:10:35 – 0:10:37] ErikTSN: Just a maniacal bush crash.
[0:10:37 – 0:10:51] Adam: There’s a little creek that kind of gets halfway up there, according to the Nat Geo, but I was looking at it on satellite view earlier, and it sure looks like you could bushwhack your way up that creek, but I guarantee you that’s not going to be fun.
[0:10:51 – 0:10:54] ErikTSN: It’s like, we’re going to Sundial.
[0:10:54 – 0:10:55] ErikTSN: Count me out.
[0:10:55 – 0:10:58] Adam: Somebody’s been to Sundial last week.
[0:10:58 – 0:11:02] Adam: Nobody’s called me on that one yet.
[0:11:02 – 0:11:04] Adam: But has anybody out there been to Sundial?
[0:11:05 – 0:11:09] Adam: Nobody’s posting a watch on Sundial with a person with a wrist rocket.
[0:11:10 – 0:11:13] Adam: If you make it to Sundial, guaranteed nobody’s going to wake you up.
[0:11:14 – 0:11:19] Adam: Just yourself screaming because the sun is still up at midnight.
[0:11:19 – 0:11:19] Adam: Right.
[0:11:21 – 0:11:21] ErikTSN: Uh, yeah.
[0:11:21 – 0:11:26] ErikTSN: And it shows like the, at least this wall map has like a campsite.
[0:11:28 – 0:11:29] Adam: Does it have a campsite mark?
[0:11:29 – 0:11:30] Adam: On White Feather?
[0:11:30 – 0:11:31] Adam: Yeah, White Feather for sure.
[0:11:31 – 0:11:37] Adam: On Paddle Planner, there is a black triangle on White Feather Lake on the north shore.
[0:11:38 – 0:11:44] Adam: And there’s just a little tiny little creek you can take up from the Stewart River to get into White Feather.
[0:11:44 – 0:11:46] Adam: And that one’s for sure there.
[0:11:47 – 0:11:54] Adam: And somebody reported, I think, on Paddle Planner that they could find the old holes in the stone from the fire grate that used to be there.
[0:11:54 – 0:11:55] ErikTSN: Yeah, it’s from 2013.
[0:11:55 – 0:12:00] ErikTSN: There’s a review on Paddle Planner for Campsite 1829 from Rertle.
[0:12:01 – 0:12:01] ErikTSN: Rertle?
[0:12:02 – 0:12:02] Adam: Rertel.
[0:12:02 – 0:12:04] ErikTSN: R-E-R-T-E-L. Rertel.
[0:12:04 – 0:12:05] Adam: Rertel.
[0:12:05 – 0:12:06] ErikTSN: Old campsite in PMA.
[0:12:06 – 0:12:08] ErikTSN: Stayed here for three days.
[0:12:08 – 0:12:08] ErikTSN: My God.
[0:12:08 – 0:12:10] ErikTSN: Did you write a book?
[0:12:10 – 0:12:13] ErikTSN: We were only able to access due to high water.
[0:12:14 – 0:12:17] ErikTSN: Still have remnants of fire grate and had a grill.
[0:12:17 – 0:12:20] ErikTSN: Caught a couple very small northern from the bank.
[0:12:20 – 0:12:21] ErikTSN: That sounds like PMA.
[0:12:21 – 0:12:22] Adam: Yeah.
[0:12:22 – 0:12:22] Adam: Grill.
[0:12:22 – 0:12:24] ErikTSN: Small northern.
[0:12:26 – 0:12:27] Adam: Mm-hmm.
[0:12:27 – 0:12:29] ErikTSN: I’ll scroll around here.
[0:12:29 – 0:12:32] ErikTSN: I don’t think I saw any other campsites in the… That’s the only one I saw.
[0:12:32 – 0:12:40] Adam: …actually, like, marked or reviewed or… No, that’s the only paddle planner one I saw, although I didn’t go farther to the east.
[0:12:40 – 0:12:41] Adam: Um…
[0:12:43 – 0:12:44] Adam: Yeah, I don’t know.
[0:12:45 – 0:12:46] Adam: I don’t think so, though.
[0:12:46 – 0:12:53] ErikTSN: Yeah, the only other closest one would be like Bear Trap and Wagosh, but those are technically not in the PMA at all.
[0:12:54 – 0:12:54] ErikTSN: Right.
[0:12:57 – 0:13:03] ErikTSN: Yeah, this one seems like if you’re like, hey, I’m, you know, been paddling the Bon Jovi’s for…
[0:13:04 – 0:13:04] ErikTSN: A while.
[0:13:04 – 0:13:07] ErikTSN: Let’s check out these PMAs.
[0:13:08 – 0:13:13] ErikTSN: I feel like this one, Sundial, Harry, and the other one, what’s the one in the middle that has like Raven Lake?
[0:13:14 – 0:13:18] ErikTSN: That’s like somewhat accessible around like Boulder.
[0:13:19 – 0:13:20] ErikTSN: Which one is that?
[0:13:21 – 0:13:23] ErikTSN: Is it Spider or is it?
[0:13:24 – 0:13:24] Adam: No, I’m sorry.
[0:13:24 – 0:13:25] ErikTSN: No, it’s Mugwump.
[0:13:26 – 0:13:27] Adam: The Mugwump.
[0:13:27 – 0:13:29] ErikTSN: I think Mugwump is the one that’s like.
[0:13:30 – 0:13:34] ErikTSN: Yeah, that one’s like, I don’t know, got a little bit more going.
[0:13:34 – 0:13:37] Adam: The Mugwell’s got a lot of water and less land.
[0:13:37 – 0:13:38] Adam: Exactly.
[0:13:38 – 0:13:40] Adam: One of the most watered of the PMAs.
[0:13:41 – 0:13:42] ErikTSN: The most paddleable PMA.
[0:13:43 – 0:13:53] ErikTSN: But this one, like, if you want to go in and take, like, the Sterling Creek and the Bear Trap River, like, it seems like there’s solid water moving through there.
[0:13:53 – 0:13:54] ErikTSN: Solid lines of blue.
[0:13:56 – 0:14:02] ErikTSN: Not to say that there’s, like, you know, a great campsite or anything out there for you, but it seems like
[0:14:04 – 0:14:14] ErikTSN: out of all of the PMAs, it’s probably in the top half of like somewhat fun versus just like, this is hell.
[0:14:14 – 0:14:15] ErikTSN: Like, what are we doing?
[0:14:15 – 0:14:22] ErikTSN: We could have just been down on a lake that has campsites and portages, but here we are.
[0:14:22 – 0:14:26] ErikTSN: We’re up in, you know, whatever, like, I don’t know, like Cantuck.
[0:14:27 – 0:14:28] ErikTSN: Like that doesn’t look like fun at all.
[0:14:28 – 0:14:33] ErikTSN: Like you’re going to go into one of the lakes and then turn around and come back.
[0:14:33 – 0:14:35] ErikTSN: It doesn’t seem like a loop through there or anything.
[0:14:35 – 0:14:38] ErikTSN: That’s what most of them seem like, but you know, sundial.
[0:14:38 – 0:14:41] ErikTSN: And I mean, even Harry is like kind of an out and back.
[0:14:41 – 0:14:50] ErikTSN: That one’s not even, I don’t know, super like explorable unless you’re just an absolute maniac.
[0:14:52 – 0:14:52] ErikTSN: Um,
[0:14:55 – 0:15:00] ErikTSN: But yeah, I think most people that are ever going to be interested in doing this are probably coming in from Angleworm or Stewart.
[0:15:01 – 0:15:04] ErikTSN: Probably like an Angleworm 2 Stewart or vice versa.
[0:15:05 – 0:15:08] ErikTSN: Doing a little upside down or right side up.
[0:15:09 – 0:15:12] ErikTSN: Which way do you face the horseshoe?
[0:15:15 – 0:15:18] ErikTSN: Is an upside-down horseshoe like an upside-down you?
[0:15:18 – 0:15:19] ErikTSN: Mm-hmm.
[0:15:19 – 0:15:23] ErikTSN: Because all horseshoes need to be faced up to catch all the luck, right?
[0:15:23 – 0:15:24] ErikTSN: That’s like the thing?
[0:15:24 – 0:15:25] Adam: Yes.
[0:15:25 – 0:15:25] Adam: Yeah.
[0:15:26 – 0:15:26] Adam: Yeah.
[0:15:26 – 0:15:28] Adam: If it’s upside-down, then it’s dumping all the luck out.
[0:15:28 – 0:15:29] Adam: Dumping all the luck out.
[0:15:30 – 0:15:30] Adam: Yeah.
[0:15:30 – 0:15:31] Adam: I don’t want to do that.
[0:15:32 – 0:15:34] Adam: Yeah, you’re not doing your hoof right.
[0:15:34 – 0:15:35] Adam: You’re dumping all the luck out.
[0:15:36 – 0:15:36] ErikTSN: Hoof luck.
[0:15:37 – 0:15:38] Adam: Your hoof luck is too low.
[0:15:38 – 0:15:39] Adam: Too low.
[0:15:39 – 0:15:39] ErikTSN: Mm-mm.
[0:15:43 – 0:15:43] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:15:43 – 0:15:48] Adam: I would think the Bear Trap River would be a really fun route to do.
[0:15:49 – 0:15:51] ErikTSN: Yeah, the spring.
[0:15:51 – 0:15:51] ErikTSN: Yeah.
[0:15:51 – 0:15:52] ErikTSN: The Stewart River is fun.
[0:15:53 – 0:15:54] ErikTSN: Long, but it’s fun.
[0:15:55 – 0:15:55] Adam: Yeah.
[0:15:56 – 0:15:57] Adam: So, you know.
[0:16:00 – 0:16:09] Adam: Getting in there, experiencing Sunday Lake, and then running the bear trap all the way down to Peterson Bay on Iron Lake.
[0:16:10 – 0:16:16] Adam: And then, yeah, you could turn and burn it back up through Rush into Stewart and then get back that way.
[0:16:16 – 0:16:18] ErikTSN: Yeah, maybe that should be our next spring trip.
[0:16:19 – 0:16:23] Adam: It’s going to still require some sort of drop, though.
[0:16:24 – 0:16:28] Adam: Vehicle drop, or you’ve got to pay an outfitter to come up there and drop you off.
[0:16:29 – 0:16:31] Adam: Or move you first.
[0:16:31 – 0:16:32] Adam: I don’t know how you pull that one off, but…
[0:16:33 – 0:16:41] ErikTSN: You just got to get your thumb out on the echo trail and hope that somebody can drive you back up to the Stewart Lake.
[0:16:42 – 0:16:42] ErikTSN: It’s not that far.
[0:16:42 – 0:16:43] ErikTSN: It’s only a few miles.
[0:16:44 – 0:16:48] ErikTSN: If you put in up here, came out here, you just got to start walking.
[0:16:48 – 0:16:50] ErikTSN: Edge Shave Lake, there’s people always hanging out there.
[0:16:51 – 0:16:51] ErikTSN: Always.
[0:16:51 – 0:16:52] ErikTSN: Spray painting that rock.
[0:16:53 – 0:16:54] Adam: Yeah, that’s that rock.
[0:16:54 – 0:16:56] ErikTSN: That’s the class of 2026 rock.
[0:16:57 – 0:16:58] ErikTSN: It’s all the high schoolers.
[0:16:59 – 0:17:00] ErikTSN: You probably get in the back of a truck of a high schooler.
[0:17:00 – 0:17:02] ErikTSN: Yeah.
[0:17:03 – 0:17:06] ErikTSN: Post-prom, you know, all in high spirits.
[0:17:08 – 0:17:11] Adam: Yeah, I’m not so much interested in the White Feather Lake.
[0:17:12 – 0:17:18] Adam: I guess if you’re on the Stewart River and you’re just, like, going that way, why not, I guess?
[0:17:18 – 0:17:20] Adam: There’s no other campsites in that sector.
[0:17:20 – 0:17:22] Adam: Like, if you’re not going to make it all the way to Stewart.
[0:17:22 – 0:17:24] ErikTSN: We’re not going to make it.
[0:17:24 – 0:17:26] Adam: I guess we’re just going to have to stop at White Feather for the night.
[0:17:26 – 0:17:27] ErikTSN: They’re going to take the house.
[0:17:27 – 0:17:29] Adam: You’re getting in real late.
[0:17:29 – 0:17:53] Adam: yeah you know then you’re gonna go to white feather um otherwise i don’t know that one doesn’t have much appeal to me but there is like you can either run bear trap all the way to iron or uh it sure looks like on paddle planner you can go up the sterling creek into sterling and then go over heideland into bibbin and nibbin bibbin and nibbin bibbin and nibbin and then you can loop back out
[0:17:55 – 0:18:10] Adam: Actually, that’s the way you could do it, basically, is you go down the Bear Trap River out to Iron and then work your way back over to Stewart and then get into Nibbin and Bibbin and then you can loop back over to Sterling and get back over to the Bear Trap and get back out the way you came.
[0:18:11 – 0:18:12] ErikTSN: From whence you came.
[0:18:13 – 0:18:18] Adam: Or you could do it the other way or whatever off the Stewart, Bibbin and Nibbin into the Bear Trap.
[0:18:19 – 0:18:21] Adam: But then you might not get to see Sunday Lake.
[0:18:22 – 0:18:23] ErikTSN: Then that would be a shame.
[0:18:23 – 0:18:53] Adam: yeah uh one thing on paddle planner on this route you can do is like you can click on the portages that are listed themselves and then there are people reviewing those portages which does give me confidence that this is actually a thing and that you can like you can do this and it’s not true bushwhacking like there are somewhat even though they are technically unmaintained portages the people maintain the portages in this way in this way yeah that’s the positive mental attitude of this area
[0:18:55 – 0:19:03] Adam: Um, but there is the only, I was reading the reviews for some of the portages and there is one where there’s like a long portage getting into the bear trap river.
[0:19:04 – 0:19:04] Adam: Can I see the map?
[0:19:05 – 0:19:06] Adam: Are you on the panel planner?
[0:19:07 – 0:19:07] Adam: Kind of.
[0:19:07 – 0:19:12] Adam: Let’s see this thing, this thing, the 165 or 200.
[0:19:12 – 0:19:16] Adam: This is a 200 off of bear trap lake into the bear trap river.
[0:19:16 – 0:19:17] ErikTSN: Yeah.
[0:19:17 – 0:19:19] ErikTSN: It seems like more portages, more portages than river.
[0:19:21 – 0:19:33] Adam: Well, there is multiple people in this portage review saying that, like, yeah, you can do this one, and it’s great, actually, and there’s a great view of the river once you, like, get almost near it, like, coming down the hill here.
[0:19:35 – 0:19:39] Adam: I’m talking about going from Bear Trap Lake into the west to the river.
[0:19:41 – 0:19:49] Adam: But there’s multiple people saying there is just, like, literally three short portages, and you can just take the river section and go around all the little rapids.
[0:19:49 – 0:19:49] Adam: Mm-hmm.
[0:19:50 – 0:19:56] Adam: And that overall, it’s like, yeah, it’s three short portages that are less in length than the one long.
[0:19:56 – 0:20:02] Adam: But it’s kind of a choose your own adventure slash pick your poison kind of scenario.
[0:20:02 – 0:20:09] Adam: Would you prefer one long portage that just gets you up the river or, in this case, down the river faster?
[0:20:09 – 0:20:13] Adam: Or do you want to deal with taking three little short portages and enjoy the river?
[0:20:14 – 0:20:17] ErikTSN: I think in this case, I would prefer the three shorter ones just so I had more time on the river.
[0:20:18 – 0:20:18] Adam: Yeah.
[0:20:18 – 0:20:20] ErikTSN: You know, it’s not like a route.
[0:20:21 – 0:20:22] ErikTSN: So it’s not like, ah, we got to get out.
[0:20:22 – 0:20:23] ErikTSN: It’s going to be people.
[0:20:23 – 0:20:24] ErikTSN: I just want to get there.
[0:20:24 – 0:20:25] Adam: Yeah, yeah.
[0:20:25 – 0:20:25] ErikTSN: I don’t know.
[0:20:25 – 0:20:29] ErikTSN: It seems like more of like the, you know, for the experience.
[0:20:29 – 0:20:37] ErikTSN: So I think I would prefer, you know, I don’t, I’m usually a person who’s like, I’d rather just do the getting in and out of the canoe once and get it over with.
[0:20:37 – 0:20:38] SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
[0:20:38 – 0:20:56] ErikTSN: But I think in this case, cause then who knows, like maybe you could run a rapid or two and maybe even complete, like that would be the fun of it is to be like, we have the opportunity here to avoid doing 200 rods with a canoe on my shoulders.
[0:20:56 – 0:20:58] ErikTSN: Like that’s always good to avoid.
[0:20:59 – 0:21:07] ErikTSN: But then that’s one of those things where almost inevitably in a typical boundary water situation where if you’re like not in a PMA, uh,
[0:21:09 – 0:21:11] ErikTSN: And it says like, oh, you should take this portage.
[0:21:11 – 0:21:14] ErikTSN: It shows a line of little blue water.
[0:21:14 – 0:21:14] ErikTSN: Yeah.
[0:21:15 – 0:21:20] ErikTSN: It’s like, never, ever take the blue line if you’re in the actual park.
[0:21:21 – 0:21:23] Adam: But a PMA, it seems a little bit more…
[0:21:25 – 0:21:29] ErikTSN: Maybe, yeah, maybe you can make it work because I’ve gotten myself into situations.
[0:21:29 – 0:21:34] ErikTSN: I don’t think there’s – I have got a 0% success rate on being like, ah, we can avoid this porridge.
[0:21:34 – 0:21:35] ErikTSN: Let’s just push through.
[0:21:35 – 0:21:46] ErikTSN: And then all of a sudden it’s like 20 minutes later and you’re waist deep in water pushing the canoe over just absolute – like downed logs and streamers and –
[0:21:47 – 0:21:48] ErikTSN: This isn’t worth it at all.
[0:21:48 – 0:21:55] ErikTSN: We’d be in the lake and halfway down the… We’d be down the portage and halfway down the next lake just because we were trying to avoid a single portage.
[0:21:55 – 0:21:57] ErikTSN: That portage is there for a reason.
[0:21:57 – 0:22:06] Adam: We’re not usually reviewing… We’re not reading portage reviews on this show, but… Well, that’s five, six years from now.
[0:22:06 – 0:22:08] ErikTSN: We’ll get into portage reviews.
[0:22:08 – 0:22:10] Adam: We got one from a friend of the show, Eagle98MN from 2025.
[0:22:14 – 0:22:43] Adam: finding the portage on bear trap in the bay north of yellow was easy the trail is clearly defined throughout even if it is a bit tight and has some low hanging branches when carrying the canoe the landing on the bear trap river side was a little mucky and shallow but there’s enough water to paddle out of the main channel even during the dry fall season there we go and then uh riley smith friend of the show riley smith back at it he’s a star they’re a star
[0:22:45 – 0:22:46] Adam: This is from 2022.
[0:22:47 – 0:22:48] Adam: There are two options.
[0:22:48 – 0:22:51] Adam: Take this long portage or take a couple portages along the river.
[0:22:51 – 0:22:54] Adam: We did the long portage on the way out and the shorter ones on the way back.
[0:22:55 – 0:22:58] Adam: as we made a day trip to Sterling from our campsite.
[0:22:58 – 0:22:58] Adam: Damn.
[0:22:58 – 0:22:58] ErikTSN: Nice.
[0:22:59 – 0:23:03] Adam: This portage was easy to find, and other than being a little overgrown, plenty easy to follow.
[0:23:03 – 0:23:07] Adam: The other end is a little choked in and shallow, but really nothing too bad here.
[0:23:07 – 0:23:09] ErikTSN: They made a day trip to Sterling?
[0:23:09 – 0:23:12] Adam: Yeah, from Bear Trap.
[0:23:12 – 0:23:13] ErikTSN: That’s insane.
[0:23:13 – 0:23:15] Adam: Went just up to Sterling and back.
[0:23:16 – 0:23:17] Adam: That’s some moving.
[0:23:18 – 0:23:20] ErikTSN: I want to know more about that trip.
[0:23:20 – 0:23:21] Adam: I can’t believe how many.
[0:23:21 – 0:23:25] Adam: There’s five reviews for this one portage.
[0:23:26 – 0:23:27] Adam: Yeah, here we go.
[0:23:27 – 0:23:30] Adam: This last one from KMJ Superfly.
[0:23:31 – 0:23:32] Adam: Wasn’t able to find the long portage.
[0:23:32 – 0:23:37] Adam: There is actually three separate short portages and beaver dams following the Beartrap River.
[0:23:37 – 0:23:39] Adam: Trails are overgrown, but findable.
[0:23:40 – 0:23:40] Adam: Findable.
[0:23:41 – 0:23:43] Adam: we cleared a few down trees and some brush.
[0:23:43 – 0:23:48] Adam: So as of seven, five 19, they are easily passable.
[0:23:48 – 0:23:49] Adam: Thank you for your work.
[0:23:49 – 0:23:50] Adam: Thank you for your service.
[0:23:50 – 0:23:50] Adam: All right.
[0:23:51 – 0:23:53] Adam: That was probably the most reviewed portage in this sector, right?
[0:23:53 – 0:23:55] Adam: There are five reviews on that one.
[0:23:55 – 0:24:02] Adam: So you can either do three shorts and then a long, or you can just do two long, uh, and then multiple sections of the bear trap.
[0:24:02 – 0:24:06] ErikTSN: What’s the other long one up there that Sunday Lake it’s,
[0:24:06 – 0:24:10] Adam: Either two longs or three shorts and a long to get to Sunday Lake.
[0:24:10 – 0:24:11] Adam: Anybody reviewing this one?
[0:24:12 – 0:24:13] Adam: We got comments.
[0:24:13 – 0:24:13] Adam: Oh, God.
[0:24:14 – 0:24:14] Adam: Eagle.
[0:24:14 – 0:24:15] Adam: Yeah.
[0:24:18 – 0:24:18] Adam: Okay.
[0:24:18 – 0:24:18] Adam: Yeah.
[0:24:20 – 0:24:33] Adam: So there’s maybe some confusion on where this portage is, but Eagle 98MN says that we found one clear and easy-to-follow portage on the west side of the river, as Paddle Planner shows.
[0:24:33 – 0:24:38] Adam: We just paddled up to the first obstruction in the river as we paddled north and got out.
[0:24:40 – 0:24:41] Adam: That’s how you do it.
[0:24:41 – 0:24:42] Adam: That’s how you portage.
[0:24:42 – 0:24:44] Adam: You’re like a modern labunga up here.
[0:24:45 – 0:24:46] ErikTSN: I love how literal some of the reviews are.
[0:24:47 – 0:24:47] Adam: Yeah.
[0:24:48 – 0:24:49] Adam: And then we got out.
[0:24:49 – 0:24:49] Adam: We got out.
[0:24:51 – 0:24:55] Adam: And then we were able to paddle freely into Sunday Lake, aside from some beaver dams.
[0:24:55 – 0:24:56] Adam: There we go.
[0:24:56 – 0:24:58] ErikTSN: This seems all, like, very accessible.
[0:24:58 – 0:24:59] ErikTSN: Like, I don’t know.
[0:24:59 – 0:25:03] Adam: It seems like getting up to Sunday is not that hard.
[0:25:03 – 0:25:05] ErikTSN: We’re going to crank another PMA out.
[0:25:05 – 0:25:06] ErikTSN: I feel like this is the one.
[0:25:06 – 0:25:07] Adam: This would be great.
[0:25:07 – 0:25:10] Adam: Plus, we’d get a couple of cool rivers in here that we haven’t gotten to do.
[0:25:10 – 0:25:11] Adam: The Stewart and the Angle.
[0:25:11 – 0:25:13] Adam: We could set up a shuttle, whatever.
[0:25:13 – 0:25:14] Adam: Sure.
[0:25:14 – 0:25:17] ErikTSN: That’s what all those outfitters over in Ely are clamoring for business.
[0:25:18 – 0:25:22] Adam: Why don’t we just go in, go through the bear trap, and then just paddle all the way out to Crane?
[0:25:23 – 0:25:24] ErikTSN: Yeah, and get a jet boat back.
[0:25:24 – 0:25:25] Adam: Jet boat us.
[0:25:25 – 0:25:29] ErikTSN: Just get a Zups float plane ride back.
[0:25:29 – 0:25:32] Adam: Go up to Negwagon 28D and get a jet boat pickup.
[0:25:32 – 0:25:35] ErikTSN: Get some burgers, a bucket of domestics, play some beach volleyball.
[0:25:35 – 0:25:37] ErikTSN: Go look for the old hatch.
[0:25:39 – 0:25:41] ErikTSN: Everything up to this point has sounded very appealing.
[0:25:41 – 0:25:41] ErikTSN: It’s not.
[0:25:41 – 0:25:42] ErikTSN: Look.
[0:25:42 – 0:25:46] ErikTSN: The hatch is, I don’t need to revisit the hatch.
[0:25:46 – 0:25:47] ErikTSN: Please don’t.
[0:25:47 – 0:25:49] ErikTSN: As long as there’s burgers and beach volleyball, though.
[0:25:50 – 0:25:57] Adam: All right, so you get to Sunday Lake, and then you got two options from Sunday, as we’ve said earlier.
[0:25:57 – 0:26:02] Adam: You’re going to keep following the Bear Trap River all the way down past Parley.
[0:26:04 – 0:26:07] Adam: and into Peterson Bay, I guess, of iron.
[0:26:08 – 0:26:13] Adam: That would be, from Sunday, one, two, three, four, five more portages.
[0:26:13 – 0:26:16] ErikTSN: And Bear Trap’s a pretty substantial creek.
[0:26:16 – 0:26:17] ErikTSN: It’s almost a full-blown river.
[0:26:18 – 0:26:21] Adam: Looks like you’ve got a couple, for sure, rapids in there that you’re avoiding.
[0:26:21 – 0:26:23] Adam: And that’s going north?
[0:26:23 – 0:26:24] Adam: Yeah, going north.
[0:26:24 – 0:26:27] Adam: You’re following the current there into iron.
[0:26:28 – 0:26:37] Adam: So that would be, I don’t know, even if you just did that and went through Sunday into iron that way, that would be a pretty cool way to come into iron.
[0:26:37 – 0:26:47] ErikTSN: Well, you could do an angle worm permit and then loop up through the PMA and go up through Crooked and then come back and do a lollipop.
[0:26:47 – 0:26:51] ErikTSN: And then you wouldn’t have to worry about getting Paragus involved for a shuttle or anything.
[0:26:52 – 0:26:53] Adam: Or high schoolers on prom night.
[0:26:53 – 0:26:55] Adam: You don’t want to deal with it.
[0:26:55 – 0:26:58] ErikTSN: They’re busy spray painting the rock at Ed Walsh or whatever.
[0:26:58 – 0:26:59] Adam: Yeah, we don’t want to deal with that.
[0:26:59 – 0:27:00] Adam: Shan Walsh, Ed Shave.
[0:27:01 – 0:27:02] Adam: That would be the way to do it.
[0:27:03 – 0:27:06] Adam: Go up to Iron and then down through Crooked and back around back to Angleworm.
[0:27:07 – 0:27:09] Adam: That would be, I don’t know, five days.
[0:27:10 – 0:27:11] Adam: Easily.
[0:27:11 – 0:27:12] Adam: Give it a week.
[0:27:12 – 0:27:13] Adam: Give it a week.
[0:27:13 – 0:27:14] Adam: Really enjoy yourself.
[0:27:14 – 0:27:14] ErikTSN: Yeah.
[0:27:16 – 0:27:21] Adam: I am intrigued by Sterling, though, which is from Sunday Lake.
[0:27:22 – 0:27:26] Adam: One, two, three portages into Sterling.
[0:27:27 – 0:27:28] Adam: And then this crazy Heideland.
[0:27:28 – 0:27:29] Adam: We got to read this one.
[0:27:30 – 0:27:33] Adam: This Heideland portage that goes from Sterling over to Nibbin.
[0:27:33 – 0:27:34] Adam: No, Bibbin.
[0:27:34 – 0:27:35] Adam: No, not Nibbin.
[0:27:35 – 0:27:36] Adam: Bibbin.
[0:27:36 – 0:27:42] Adam: We have one review for this portage, the Heideland portage from Sterling to Bibbin.
[0:27:43 – 0:27:45] Adam: This trail is still very traceable.
[0:27:46 – 0:27:51] Adam: We lost the trail once when it crossed a rocky area, but we’re able to find it again with relative ease.
[0:27:52 – 0:27:54] Adam: The landing in Sterling Lake is easy to find.
[0:27:55 – 0:27:57] Adam: On Bibbon, look for the cairn.
[0:27:57 – 0:27:59] Adam: Beautiful landing area to rest on Bibbon.
[0:28:00 – 0:28:02] Adam: I mean, that just sounds inviting.
[0:28:02 – 0:28:03] Adam: Sounds great.
[0:28:03 – 0:28:03] Adam: Let’s go now.
[0:28:04 – 0:28:06] Adam: So I think there’s a lot to like in here.
[0:28:07 – 0:28:08] Adam: And then, yeah, Bibbon to Nibbon.
[0:28:09 – 0:28:12] Adam: And then you got a 213 out to Stewart.
[0:28:12 – 0:28:15] Adam: What are people saying about this Nibbon to Stewart one?
[0:28:16 – 0:28:19] Adam: Same commenter as the previous one.
[0:28:19 – 0:28:22] Adam: This is Shoot the Rapids from 2020.
[0:28:22 – 0:28:26] Adam: You got to love those 2020 pandemic reviews.
[0:28:27 – 0:28:29] Adam: You had all sorts of folks out there that year.
[0:28:29 – 0:28:30] ErikTSN: Oh, yeah.
[0:28:30 – 0:28:31] ErikTSN: 6-3 2020.
[0:28:31 – 0:28:32] ErikTSN: That was like illegal.
[0:28:33 – 0:28:35] ErikTSN: Yeah, you’re not even supposed to be out there.
[0:28:35 – 0:28:36] ErikTSN: You’re outing yourself.
[0:28:36 – 0:28:37] ErikTSN: Shoot the Rapids.
[0:28:37 – 0:28:40] Adam: Both landings have a cairn to mark this portage.
[0:28:40 – 0:28:45] Adam: The east end of this portage has many cairns to mark the way as it travels over rock faces.
[0:28:45 – 0:28:45] Adam: Wow.
[0:28:46 – 0:28:46] ErikTSN: Oh, many Cairns.
[0:28:46 – 0:28:47] ErikTSN: I love it.
[0:28:47 – 0:28:47] ErikTSN: I don’t know.
[0:28:48 – 0:28:48] ErikTSN: Is this burnt or something?
[0:28:48 – 0:28:49] ErikTSN: I can’t tell.
[0:28:49 – 0:28:53] ErikTSN: Sometimes if there’s only one Cairn, I’m sort of unsure.
[0:28:53 – 0:28:58] ErikTSN: I need at least seven to 12 Cairns to make sure that I know I’m on the right path.
[0:28:59 – 0:29:00] ErikTSN: So the more Cairns, the better.
[0:29:01 – 0:29:06] Adam: The East End is very swampy and will certainly get your shoes nice and soaked.
[0:29:07 – 0:29:07] Adam: Shoes.
[0:29:09 – 0:29:10] Adam: Shoes.
[0:29:11 – 0:29:16] Adam: I’m never… Who’s wearing… Who the hell is wearing shoes in the Boundary Waters?
[0:29:16 – 0:29:17] Adam: My shoes are wet.
[0:29:17 – 0:29:18] Adam: My shoes are wet.
[0:29:18 – 0:29:19] Adam: Dodd.
[0:29:22 – 0:29:26] Adam: Shoes the Rapids says my shoes are wet.
[0:29:26 – 0:29:33] ErikTSN: That would go really nice with the other lollipop over on the west end we’ve got here to do an angle worm loop around.
[0:29:33 – 0:29:34] Adam: Another lollipop.
[0:29:35 – 0:29:40] ErikTSN: And then you do one more lollipop and then it turns into three floating balloons.
[0:29:40 – 0:29:41] ErikTSN: Yeah.
[0:29:42 – 0:29:44] ErikTSN: And then you’ve got a real circus on your hands.
[0:29:46 – 0:29:50] Adam: The West End is a giant rock face and has a nice vista of Stewart.
[0:29:50 – 0:29:52] Adam: The trail is relatively easy to follow.
[0:29:52 – 0:29:55] Adam: Thank you, Shoot the Rapids, for your comments on this.
[0:29:58 – 0:29:59] Adam: I don’t know what you call this.
[0:29:59 – 0:30:01] Adam: On this route, the Sterling route.
[0:30:01 – 0:30:02] ErikTSN: Shoot the Rapids.
[0:30:02 – 0:30:04] Adam: Sunday, Sterling to Stewart.
[0:30:04 – 0:30:06] Adam: And you got yourselves a little nibbid and bibbid in there.
[0:30:07 – 0:30:07] Adam: Nibbin’ and Bibbin’.
[0:30:08 – 0:30:08] Adam: Oh, man.
[0:30:08 – 0:30:10] Adam: I like the sound of this little loop, too.
[0:30:10 – 0:30:11] Adam: I mean, you could just…
[0:30:11 – 0:30:12] ErikTSN: I’m not going through Nibbin’ and Bibbin’.
[0:30:12 – 0:30:14] ErikTSN: You give me that bear trap straight north.
[0:30:15 – 0:30:15] ErikTSN: That’s where I’m going.
[0:30:15 – 0:30:17] Adam: Yeah, you’re not going to Sterling, Nibbin’ and Bibbin’.
[0:30:18 – 0:30:18] Adam: Nah.
[0:30:19 – 0:30:19] ErikTSN: I don’t know.
[0:30:19 – 0:30:20] ErikTSN: Don’t need it.
[0:30:20 – 0:30:22] ErikTSN: I’d love to be able to stop, though.
[0:30:23 – 0:30:26] Adam: I like the name Bear Trap River.
[0:30:27 – 0:30:27] ErikTSN: It’s great.
[0:30:27 – 0:30:28] ErikTSN: Yeah.
[0:30:29 – 0:30:32] ErikTSN: I would love to be able to stay and stop on Sunday, though.
[0:30:33 – 0:30:35] Adam: Yeah.
[0:30:35 – 0:30:38] Adam: Go in and get to Sunday for night one.
[0:30:39 – 0:30:40] Adam: Is that ridiculous?
[0:30:40 – 0:30:40] Adam: Yes.
[0:30:41 – 0:30:42] Adam: That is ridiculous.
[0:30:42 – 0:30:43] Adam: Night two for Sunday.
[0:30:43 – 0:30:45] Adam: So you got to get to Bear Trap night one.
[0:30:46 – 0:30:46] ErikTSN: For sure.
[0:30:46 – 0:30:49] ErikTSN: I mean, the entry point starts with a two-mile-long portage.
[0:30:49 – 0:30:50] Adam: Yeah, that’s pretty rough.
[0:30:50 – 0:30:52] Adam: You might as well start that one at midnight.
[0:30:53 – 0:30:55] ErikTSN: Start it at midnight and get out to Angleworm.
[0:30:55 – 0:30:57] Adam: Get to Bear Trap by first night.
[0:30:57 – 0:30:57] Adam: Bear Trap?
[0:30:57 – 0:30:58] ErikTSN: Not Bear Trap.
[0:30:58 – 0:31:02] Adam: And then go to Sunday for night two, and then you get to Iron for night three.
[0:31:03 – 0:31:05] Adam: And then you got to really start cranking on it.
[0:31:06 – 0:31:20] ErikTSN: to get her back uh yeah that’s the only downside to doing a loop uh you know a lollipop loop on an angle worm is it you gotta do that portage twice yeah that’s rough is that you should do it um no you should do it on the stewart
[0:31:21 – 0:31:28] Adam: And then you nibbit and bibbit it down in Sunday and then up the bear trap and then back around.
[0:31:28 – 0:31:29] Adam: Oh, yeah.
[0:31:29 – 0:31:29] Adam: You could do that.
[0:31:29 – 0:31:31] Adam: That’s a little mini lollipop right there.
[0:31:31 – 0:31:36] ErikTSN: But then you’re requiring that we’re back into the services of a shuttle, which is fine.
[0:31:37 – 0:31:38] Adam: Well, that’s all right.
[0:31:39 – 0:31:58] Adam: No, but I’m just saying you can just do the Stewart River entry point, go down the Stewart, bypass White Feather, and go just to Stewart Lake for night one, and then go in Nibbin’ and Bibbin’, you know, cut over all the way to Sunday for night two, and then go from Sunday up into Iron.
[0:31:59 – 0:32:02] ErikTSN: Oh, you’re just cutting Angleworm out completely.
[0:32:02 – 0:32:03] Adam: Yeah, no Angleworm.
[0:32:03 – 0:32:04] Adam: Sure.
[0:32:04 – 0:32:12] Adam: You just go Stewart River, Nibbin’ and Bibbin’, Sterling, Sunday, up to Iron.
[0:32:13 – 0:32:13] Adam: What’s that?
[0:32:13 – 0:32:14] Adam: Is that portage?
[0:32:14 – 0:32:15] Adam: Then back down to Stewart.
[0:32:15 – 0:32:15] ErikTSN: Have you looked?
[0:32:15 – 0:32:24] ErikTSN: That portage is on the big wall map here, but there is not a portage listed on that thing.
[0:32:25 – 0:32:25] ErikTSN: That’s not there.
[0:32:26 – 0:32:27] ErikTSN: You’d have to take the bear trap up.
[0:32:27 – 0:32:28] Adam: Yeah, yeah, bear trap.
[0:32:29 – 0:32:32] ErikTSN: Which I would prefer anyway versus a 300-rod PMA portage.
[0:32:32 – 0:32:37] Adam: Yeah, go up the bear trap into iron, and then you can loop that thing back down into Stewart.
[0:32:38 – 0:32:38] ErikTSN: Yeah.
[0:32:39 – 0:32:39] Adam: No problem.
[0:32:40 – 0:32:45] Adam: That’s a little mini lollipop, and then you just come back out to Stewart, and your vehicle’s waiting for you right there.
[0:32:45 – 0:32:46] ErikTSN: Yeah, that’s fine.
[0:32:46 – 0:32:47] ErikTSN: I don’t know.
[0:32:48 – 0:32:56] ErikTSN: When the lollipop is that much of the same river, I sort of get a little less excited about it.
[0:32:57 – 0:32:59] ErikTSN: But, you know, it’s a work in progress.
[0:32:59 – 0:33:01] Adam: Yeah, we’ll think about this one.
[0:33:01 – 0:33:03] ErikTSN: Sundial is very on the table, though, I’d say.
[0:33:03 – 0:33:07] Adam: Sundial would be top of my list for next PMA for sure.
[0:33:07 – 0:33:13] Adam: And I’m not just saying that because we’re reviewing it on the solstice and drinking Corona sun brews.
[0:33:15 – 0:33:16] Adam: What are these things, like 3%?
[0:33:16 – 0:33:17] Adam: Probably.
[0:33:17 – 0:33:19] Adam: I’m going to drink 10 of these.
[0:33:19 – 0:33:20] ErikTSN: Give me one more of those things.
[0:33:21 – 0:33:21] Adam: You don’t need more?
[0:33:22 – 0:33:22] Adam: No, give me one more.
[0:33:23 – 0:33:23] Adam: Oh, yeah, please.
[0:33:24 – 0:33:25] ErikTSN: I don’t need any more.
[0:33:25 – 0:33:27] Adam: I don’t need any more of this sun brew.
[0:33:27 – 0:33:28] SPEAKER_00: Aye, aye, aye, aye, aye.
[0:33:30 – 0:33:30] Adam: Give them one.
[0:33:30 – 0:33:31] Adam: Give them one.
[0:33:31 – 0:33:31] Adam: Here we go.
[0:33:31 – 0:33:32] Adam: How many times do I have to ask?
[0:33:33 – 0:33:33] Adam: Please.
[0:33:33 – 0:33:34] Adam: Good Lord.
[0:33:34 – 0:33:35] Adam: Yeah, it doesn’t say.
[0:33:35 – 0:33:37] Adam: It doesn’t even say.
[0:33:37 – 0:33:38] SPEAKER_00: It’s NA.
[0:33:38 – 0:33:42] Adam: I wouldn’t be surprised at all if this was NA.
[0:33:42 – 0:33:43] Adam: This might be NA.
[0:33:43 – 0:33:44] ErikTSN: It’s juice.
[0:33:45 – 0:33:46] Adam: Tastes great.
[0:33:46 – 0:33:46] ErikTSN: 4.5.
[0:33:46 – 0:33:48] Adam: Hey, not bad.
[0:33:48 – 0:33:49] ErikTSN: 4.5%.
[0:33:51 – 0:33:53] Adam: Would you say you’re more of a nibbin or more of a bibbin?
[0:33:53 – 0:33:54] ErikTSN: Bibbin.
[0:33:54 – 0:33:55] Adam: I’m a nibbin for sure.
[0:33:55 – 0:33:57] Adam: We always balance each other out.
[0:33:58 – 0:34:21] Adam: course we do um yeah i don’t know what else there is to say on sunday lpma it’s you know not a place we’ve been it’s a place we would love to go bwca wild doesn’t have anything to say about it uh i mean other than what what have what we have already said i think so oh god don’t do that don’t let me touch this thing uh i don’t want to be touching that thing
[0:34:22 – 0:34:25] ErikTSN: Oh, no, you’re updating Adobe.
[0:34:25 – 0:34:26] ErikTSN: How’d you do that?
[0:34:27 – 0:34:28] ErikTSN: That was the old computer.
[0:34:33 – 0:34:38] ErikTSN: I mean, I could just read straight from BWCA Wild, but I don’t know if we’ve gotten the endorsement from…
[0:34:38 – 0:34:40] Adam: We don’t know those folks.
[0:34:40 – 0:34:41] ErikTSN: No, you don’t know.
[0:34:41 – 0:34:42] ErikTSN: I think it’s a folk.
[0:34:42 – 0:34:43] ErikTSN: It’s a man.
[0:34:43 – 0:34:44] ErikTSN: We don’t know the folk.
[0:34:44 – 0:34:47] ErikTSN: It’s a very man-based website, I think.
[0:34:48 – 0:34:50] Adam: What makes you say that?
[0:34:51 – 0:34:52] Adam: It’s the formatting.
[0:34:52 – 0:34:54] SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
[0:34:54 – 0:34:55] ErikTSN: Little unflourishment.
[0:34:57 – 0:35:01] ErikTSN: It’s all info, hard, you know, squares of text.
[0:35:01 – 0:35:02] ErikTSN: Would if you could.
[0:35:02 – 0:35:03] ErikTSN: Referencing…
[0:35:08 – 0:35:09] ErikTSN: Oh, there was a fire in 1996.
[0:35:10 – 0:35:14] ErikTSN: That seems probably like it probably doesn’t matter super much, like super much.
[0:35:14 – 0:35:16] ErikTSN: It doesn’t matter all that much at this point.
[0:35:17 – 0:35:20] ErikTSN: 20-year-old fire, probably even like not really hardly noticeable.
[0:35:21 – 0:35:21] ErikTSN: It’s a 5,000-acre fire.
[0:35:24 – 0:35:26] ErikTSN: In, yeah, 1996.
[0:35:26 – 0:35:29] ErikTSN: It’s like a 30-year-old fire.
[0:35:30 – 0:35:31] ErikTSN: On the Robert Bamer.
[0:35:32 – 0:35:33] ErikTSN: 30, yeah, what am I talking about?
[0:35:33 – 0:35:35] ErikTSN: Robert Bamer.
[0:35:35 – 0:35:38] ErikTSN: Robert Bamer, the Boundary Waters Canoe Area, Western Region.
[0:35:38 – 0:35:39] ErikTSN: Remember those guidebooks?
[0:35:40 – 0:35:42] ErikTSN: I had both of them, East, West, Richard Bamer.
[0:35:43 – 0:35:44] ErikTSN: That was just me.
[0:35:44 – 0:35:45] ErikTSN: This is a Bamer banger.
[0:35:45 – 0:35:46] ErikTSN: Bamer banger.
[0:35:46 – 0:35:48] ErikTSN: Yeah.
[0:35:52 – 0:35:53] ErikTSN: Ooh, here we go.
[0:35:53 – 0:35:55] ErikTSN: I’m just like slowly scanning.
[0:35:56 – 0:36:01] ErikTSN: It’s always a good thing to do on a podcast is just read in your head and not let anybody else know what you’re doing.
[0:36:02 – 0:36:03] Adam: Yeah, we understand.
[0:36:03 – 0:36:10] ErikTSN: Sterling Lake said by the few who have seen it to be the prettiest lake in the BWC.
[0:36:10 – 0:36:10] Adam: What?
[0:36:11 – 0:36:11] Adam: Yeah.
[0:36:12 – 0:36:12] Adam: Prettiest.
[0:36:13 – 0:36:16] ErikTSN: Who’s, where are you getting that information from?
[0:36:16 – 0:36:16] Adam: Bamer.
[0:36:17 – 0:36:17] Adam: BWCA Wild.
[0:36:17 – 0:36:18] Adam: Bamer.
[0:36:18 – 0:36:19] Adam: That’s from Bamer.
[0:36:19 – 0:36:20] Adam: It’s got to be a Bamer quote.
[0:36:20 – 0:36:21] Adam: That’s a Bamer banger.
[0:36:21 – 0:36:22] Adam: Yep.
[0:36:23 – 0:36:23] Adam: Sterling.
[0:36:24 – 0:36:26] ErikTSN: That’s, yeah, I mean, talk about like tease.
[0:36:26 – 0:36:27] ErikTSN: That’s a real tease.
[0:36:28 – 0:36:28] ErikTSN: Previous?
[0:36:30 – 0:36:31] ErikTSN: Okay.
[0:36:31 – 0:36:32] ErikTSN: Yeah.
[0:36:32 – 0:36:33] ErikTSN: I’m interested.
[0:36:33 – 0:36:37] ErikTSN: We got to do prettiest lake ranker one of these days.
[0:36:37 – 0:36:39] ErikTSN: This fall, we’re going to do pretty lakes.
[0:36:39 – 0:36:40] ErikTSN: Pretty lakes.
[0:36:40 – 0:36:41] ErikTSN: It’s the prettiest lake.
[0:36:41 – 0:36:42] Adam: Yeah, not tasty lakes.
[0:36:43 – 0:36:43] Adam: Pretty lakes.
[0:36:44 – 0:36:45] ErikTSN: Yeah, we’ve already ranked the tastiest.
[0:36:48 – 0:36:49] ErikTSN: Next is prettiest.
[0:36:50 – 0:36:50] Adam: Pretty.
[0:36:52 – 0:36:54] ErikTSN: Pretty shoes.
[0:36:55 – 0:36:56] ErikTSN: Prettiest.
[0:36:58 – 0:37:02] ErikTSN: Said by the few who have seen it to be one of the prettiest lakes in the BWCA.
[0:37:02 – 0:37:06] Adam: This lake’s so pretty, it’s going to soak your shoes, Eric.
[0:37:06 – 0:37:07] ErikTSN: I’m going to soak my shoes just thinking about it.
[0:37:07 – 0:37:09] Adam: I’m going to soak my shoes in this pretty lake.
[0:37:12 – 0:37:14] Adam: Under the solstice sun.
[0:37:15 – 0:37:18] ErikTSN: Yeah, it was the white fire burn, white feather fire that burned the area.
[0:37:19 – 0:37:20] Adam: White feather, oh.
[0:37:20 – 0:37:20] Adam: Yeah.
[0:37:21 – 0:37:22] Adam: That’s why they had to close that lake finally.
[0:37:24 – 0:37:24] Adam: Probably.
[0:37:25 – 0:37:27] Adam: White feather, it all comes back to white feather.
[0:37:28 – 0:37:29] Adam: Damn.
[0:37:30 – 0:37:33] ErikTSN: Yeah, there’s not a whole, I mean.
[0:37:33 – 0:37:39] Adam: Yeah, I did try and look for fishing information for both Sterling and Sunday and white feather lakes.
[0:37:39 – 0:37:41] Adam: There’s no information whatsoever.
[0:37:41 – 0:37:44] Adam: They’re filled with slimy sculpins, I think.
[0:37:46 – 0:37:47] ErikTSN: Sterling Lake.
[0:37:47 – 0:37:49] Adam: Green eared sunfish for sure.
[0:37:49 – 0:37:55] ErikTSN: There’s a link within the description of the Sundial PMA that takes you to Sterling Lake.
[0:37:55 – 0:37:55] ErikTSN: Yeah.
[0:37:55 – 0:37:58] ErikTSN: And the first sentence is, by many accounts, Sterling Lake is a beautiful lake.
[0:38:00 – 0:38:25] ErikTSN: surpass pretty pretty now it’s beautiful now it’s gorgeous yeah absolutely absolutely stunning the lake’s largest island has been described as a good place to camp with an easy canoe landing on the west end yeah there’s a little there’s a mini a little mini smoky hot dog island oh a tiny hot dog and apparently it’s very pretty
[0:38:26 – 0:38:28] Adam: Let me get my map back out.
[0:38:29 – 0:38:29] Adam: There’s an island?
[0:38:29 – 0:38:31] Adam: Oh, way back in there, huh?
[0:38:31 – 0:38:36] ErikTSN: Besides the awesome scenery, the fishing on the lake is also reported to be pretty good walleye and northern.
[0:38:36 – 0:38:37] ErikTSN: Walleye?
[0:38:37 – 0:38:37] Adam: Lots of them.
[0:38:38 – 0:38:38] ErikTSN: Yeah.
[0:38:40 – 0:38:41] Adam: Yeah, you probably would.
[0:38:41 – 0:38:41] Adam: Bang.
[0:38:43 – 0:38:44] Adam: How many people are really back there fishing?
[0:38:44 – 0:38:46] ErikTSN: The shoreline runs the gambit?
[0:38:47 – 0:38:47] Adam: Gambit.
[0:38:53 – 0:38:57] ErikTSN: The shoreline runs the gambit from rocky and forested to swampy.
[0:38:58 – 0:39:02] ErikTSN: Again, that’s like a kid trying to fill out the, you got to get to 500 words.
[0:39:04 – 0:39:05] ErikTSN: Also gambit.
[0:39:06 – 0:39:08] Adam: Got a lot of different tree.
[0:39:08 – 0:39:09] ErikTSN: Look out, it’s a gambit.
[0:39:09 – 0:39:10] ErikTSN: And rock.
[0:39:10 – 0:39:10] UNKNOWN: Yeah.
[0:39:11 – 0:39:14] ErikTSN: Oh, the shoreline’s rocky and or swampy and or forested?
[0:39:14 – 0:39:14] ErikTSN: Hmm.
[0:39:15 – 0:39:16] ErikTSN: Quite the description.
[0:39:16 – 0:39:17] ErikTSN: I’ve never been there.
[0:39:17 – 0:39:20] ErikTSN: I can’t criticize, but… That’s pretty funny.
[0:39:20 – 0:39:21] Adam: That is hilarious.
[0:39:21 – 0:39:22] Adam: So they got the little island.
[0:39:22 – 0:39:24] ErikTSN: I’m sold on Sterling Lake at this point.
[0:39:24 – 0:39:25] Adam: Yeah, we should go to Sterling.
[0:39:25 – 0:39:28] ErikTSN: Going off of the reviews of one guy and a website.
[0:39:29 – 0:39:29] ErikTSN: Um…
[0:39:30 – 0:39:46] Adam: i think we should do the stewart river nibbin bibbin sterling bear trap river iron dark rush fox stewart and then all the way back out on the stewart river that’d be a killer lollipop you get into sterling in a day i think
[0:39:47 – 0:39:49] Adam: Yeah, because there’s nothing.
[0:39:49 – 0:39:50] Adam: You better.
[0:39:50 – 0:39:52] Adam: Or you’re going to have to stay.
[0:39:52 – 0:39:53] Adam: You could just stay on Stewart.
[0:39:54 – 0:39:55] ErikTSN: Well, you really could if you just got up there.
[0:39:55 – 0:40:00] Adam: And then bang over to Sterling and then get to Iron.
[0:40:01 – 0:40:02] ErikTSN: Well, if we were doing it from.
[0:40:03 – 0:40:06] Adam: One, two, three, back to Stewart for night four and get out.
[0:40:06 – 0:40:13] ErikTSN: Yeah, I think the problem with how we would do it is because we’re coming from so far away, it’d be tough to like get in and be like.
[0:40:14 – 0:40:14] Adam: Yeah.
[0:40:14 – 0:40:15] ErikTSN: Get all the way to Stirling.
[0:40:15 – 0:40:18] ErikTSN: So you’d almost have to get over there and then like, I don’t know, like.
[0:40:19 – 0:40:21] Adam: Stay at the Great Ely Lodge the night before.
[0:40:21 – 0:40:21] Adam: Yeah.
[0:40:21 – 0:40:26] ErikTSN: Stay at the gel and then get up super early and then get a nice early start up the Echo.
[0:40:26 – 0:40:27] ErikTSN: And get to Sterling.
[0:40:27 – 0:40:28] ErikTSN: And actually get to Sterling.
[0:40:28 – 0:40:32] ErikTSN: Otherwise, you’d break it up too much and be like, well, it’s two in the afternoon.
[0:40:32 – 0:40:34] ErikTSN: We’re not going to stop at like – or maybe you would.
[0:40:34 – 0:40:35] ErikTSN: But I don’t know.
[0:40:35 – 0:40:37] ErikTSN: It just seems like a weird timing thing.
[0:40:37 – 0:40:41] ErikTSN: Unless you started really early to get out to Sterling in a day.
[0:40:42 – 0:40:42] ErikTSN: Yeah.
[0:40:42 – 0:40:44] ErikTSN: You’d almost be like worth it to just –
[0:40:46 – 0:40:48] ErikTSN: stay on Stewart, but then you’d miss it.
[0:40:48 – 0:40:50] ErikTSN: You’d just basically be like, well, we paddled through the PMA.
[0:40:50 – 0:40:52] ErikTSN: If I was going, I would want to stay.
[0:40:52 – 0:40:54] Adam: Stay one night on Sterling’s Island.
[0:40:55 – 0:40:55] ErikTSN: Exactly.
[0:40:56 – 0:40:57] ErikTSN: It’s apparently a really pretty lake.
[0:40:58 – 0:40:59] Adam: Pretty.
[0:40:59 – 0:41:01] Adam: You’d have to get new shoes for this trip.
[0:41:02 – 0:41:02] ErikTSN: Yeah.
[0:41:04 – 0:41:07] ErikTSN: Take your finest shoes to the prettiest lake.
[0:41:08 – 0:41:10] Adam: See if this shoe fits.
[0:41:13 – 0:41:17] Adam: We each bring a special shoe and see which one fit better for the island.
[0:41:18 – 0:41:19] ErikTSN: I’m just reading some more.
[0:41:23 – 0:41:26] ErikTSN: A large, gorgeous lake with plenty of shoreline to explore.
[0:41:26 – 0:41:27] Adam: It’s gorgeous.
[0:41:27 – 0:41:27] Adam: It’s pretty.
[0:41:27 – 0:41:28] Adam: It’s beautiful.
[0:41:28 – 0:41:29] Adam: Sterling.
[0:41:29 – 0:41:30] ErikTSN: It’s been sold to us.
[0:41:30 – 0:41:38] ErikTSN: It’s one of those alpine lakes in the high alpine cascade national park people only get to for six weeks out of the year.
[0:41:39 – 0:41:42] ErikTSN: And there’s only three permits that get given.
[0:41:42 – 0:41:44] ErikTSN: It’s just absolutely stunning.
[0:41:44 – 0:41:47] ErikTSN: It’s the cover of Mountaineering Magazine.
[0:41:47 – 0:41:48] Adam: You got to get up to this lake.
[0:41:49 – 0:41:49] Adam: Ooh.
[0:41:50 – 0:41:50] ErikTSN: Ooh.
[0:41:50 – 0:41:50] ErikTSN: Ooh.
[0:41:51 – 0:42:05] ErikTSN: The first I’m ever hearing of it is today, but I believe everything that Richard Boehmer, Robert Boehmer, has to say about Sterling Lake, which is the new place we’re going to.
[0:42:06 – 0:42:09] Adam: Yeah, put it on the calendar for sure.
[0:42:10 – 0:42:12] ErikTSN: Apparently you can bushwhack to Sterling from Bibbon.
[0:42:14 – 0:42:16] Adam: Well, there’s a portage listed on Paddle Planner.
[0:42:17 – 0:42:19] ErikTSN: No, no, it’s just a…
[0:42:22 – 0:42:24] ErikTSN: Yeah, apparently there’s a bushwhack trail that is cairned.
[0:42:25 – 0:42:28] Adam: Yeah, that’s the portage trail from Paddle Planner.
[0:42:28 – 0:42:29] Adam: They’re talking about the cairns.
[0:42:30 – 0:42:31] ErikTSN: From Bibbon to Sterling?
[0:42:31 – 0:42:31] Adam: Yeah.
[0:42:33 – 0:42:33] Adam: Yeah.
[0:42:33 – 0:42:36] ErikTSN: I thought you just came up from Sterling Creek.
[0:42:36 – 0:42:38] Adam: Well, from that side, yeah.
[0:42:38 – 0:42:40] Adam: That’s the way through, though.
[0:42:40 – 0:42:40] Adam: Oh, okay.
[0:42:40 – 0:42:41] Adam: Nibbin to Bibbin.
[0:42:42 – 0:42:43] Adam: We’ve talked about this.
[0:42:43 – 0:42:46] Adam: Do not keep walking if you are not positive you are on the trail.
[0:42:47 – 0:42:48] Adam: Look for the cairn.
[0:42:48 – 0:42:49] Adam: Look for the cairns.
[0:42:49 – 0:42:52] Adam: It sounds like it’s a bunch of wide open rock in there.
[0:42:52 – 0:42:54] Adam: I bet there’s really good blueberries.
[0:42:55 – 0:43:01] ErikTSN: There is usually a cairn, but don’t count on it.
[0:43:01 – 0:43:05] Adam: If you’ve walked 50 paces without seeing a cairn, turn back.
[0:43:06 – 0:43:07] Adam: Just hit the SOS button.
[0:43:08 – 0:43:11] ErikTSN: Hit the SOS button and chug a sunbrew.
[0:43:13 – 0:43:13] Adam: These are great.
[0:43:14 – 0:43:28] Adam: Well, it’s been a memorable solstice once again, and it is now midnight, and it is actually dark here in the Tumbleshed, so I’d say that was a successful summer solstice episode.
[0:43:28 – 0:43:30] ErikTSN: What do you think?
[0:43:31 – 0:43:32] ErikTSN: The jury’s out.
[0:43:33 – 0:43:37] Adam: This one’s for sure coming in under an hour as guaranteed.
[0:43:37 – 0:43:38] ErikTSN: We’re well over an hour.
[0:43:38 – 0:43:40] Adam: Guaranteed and delivered.
[0:43:40 – 0:43:42] Adam: Got to the goods.
[0:43:42 – 0:43:45] ErikTSN: This is the one that I am a little disappointed.
[0:43:47 – 0:43:48] ErikTSN: Well over an hour here.
[0:43:49 – 0:43:50] ErikTSN: Broke our promise to all of you.
[0:43:51 – 0:43:52] Adam: We apologize for that.
[0:43:52 – 0:43:58] Adam: We can’t stop talking about the positive mental attitude that comes from being in a primitive management area.
[0:43:59 – 0:44:06] ErikTSN: We will be back next week with, to make up for it, a well under an hour TCC special for all of you.
[0:44:07 – 0:44:17] ErikTSN: Whether you’re a supporter of our Patreon system or not, we’re going to tease these people.
[0:44:17 – 0:44:24] ErikTSN: Maybe there are some people out there who are just like, I don’t know if I need to listen to what they’re doing on Patreon.
[0:44:24 – 0:44:27] ErikTSN: They’re already not really doing anything on the main podcast.
[0:44:27 – 0:44:28] ErikTSN: Yes, we are.
[0:44:28 – 0:44:29] ErikTSN: We’re doing a lot.
[0:44:29 – 0:44:36] ErikTSN: We’re doing so much by reading other people’s comments on a PMA we’ve not been to.
[0:44:37 – 0:44:37] ErikTSN: Yet.
[0:44:38 – 0:44:38] ErikTSN: Yet.
[0:44:39 – 0:44:39] ErikTSN: Yet.
[0:44:40 – 0:44:41] ErikTSN: We’re going to throw up…
[0:44:41 – 0:44:45] ErikTSN: It sounds like Fly Away Home.
[0:44:45 – 0:44:47] Adam: Fly Away Home is going on the live feed.
[0:44:47 – 0:44:48] Adam: It’s going on the live.
[0:44:48 – 0:44:52] Adam: We promised it way back at the beginning of Bird Month, during the Birdament.
[0:44:52 – 0:44:55] ErikTSN: We get one episode a year.
[0:44:56 – 0:44:57] ErikTSN: We can do as many as we want.
[0:44:57 – 0:45:02] ErikTSN: Well, we can, but then it diminishes the reason for anybody to pay…
[0:45:03 – 0:45:22] Adam: five dollars a month to listen to the paywall even john boys eventually puts out his like uh history of charging them out for free after it’s been on the patreon for a year well this is true too yeah eventually the patreon is it’s exclusive because you’ve had multiple years to listen to this episode fly away home
[0:45:23 – 0:45:24] ErikTSN: Flyaway Home has been on there for multiple years.
[0:45:24 – 0:45:25] Adam: For a long time.
[0:45:25 – 0:45:26] Adam: So, you know.
[0:45:27 – 0:45:28] Adam: Thank you.
[0:45:28 – 0:45:29] ErikTSN: Jeff Daniels.
[0:45:29 – 0:45:30] ErikTSN: They’re coming in hot.
[0:45:30 – 0:45:31] ErikTSN: They’re going to be flying in red hot.
[0:45:32 – 0:45:32] Adam: Yeah.
[0:45:32 – 0:45:33] ErikTSN: And.
[0:45:34 – 0:45:34] Adam: Ultralight.
[0:45:35 – 0:45:36] ErikTSN: You can look forward to that.
[0:45:37 – 0:45:41] Adam: And that is… That will conclure the bird month.
[0:45:41 – 0:45:42] Adam: Conclure bird month.
[0:45:42 – 0:45:47] Adam: Yeah, but we’re definitely moving into a new and exciting phase for the summer for TCC.
[0:45:48 – 0:45:53] ErikTSN: July is going to be so amazing on the TCC Patreon feed.
[0:45:53 – 0:45:58] Adam: You’re going to want to get in now and sign up before it even hits because it’s going to be an awesome…
[0:46:00 – 0:46:09] ErikTSN: These are going to be some of the prettiest TCC episodes ever put onto microfiche and digital tape.
[0:46:09 – 0:46:11] Adam: Yeah, I’m going to put on my best driving shoes.
[0:46:11 – 0:46:17] ErikTSN: We’re doing big, I mean, it’s about as opposite to bird month.
[0:46:17 – 0:46:17] Adam: Yeah, it is.
[0:46:17 – 0:46:18] ErikTSN: As you can get.
[0:46:18 – 0:46:20] ErikTSN: And we’re going big truck month.
[0:46:20 – 0:46:21] Adam: Peterbolt.
[0:46:21 – 0:46:22] ErikTSN: Big engine.
[0:46:22 – 0:46:22] ErikTSN: Peterbolt.
[0:46:26 – 0:46:28] ErikTSN: I’m going to bust out my best belt buckle.
[0:46:29 – 0:46:31] ErikTSN: I’m going to adopt a large Great Dane.
[0:46:32 – 0:46:33] ErikTSN: I am growing my hair out.
[0:46:33 – 0:46:36] ErikTSN: I’m going to be growing my hair out, feathering it.
[0:46:37 – 0:46:38] Adam: I’ve already got mine growing out.
[0:46:38 – 0:46:40] Adam: Yeah, we’re going to get a CB radio.
[0:46:40 – 0:46:41] ErikTSN: Yeah.
[0:46:41 – 0:46:42] ErikTSN: Get your ears on.
[0:46:43 – 0:46:50] ErikTSN: We can talk just when we’re not on mic together just to make sure we’re on the same page from 20 miles apart or however far away we are now.
[0:46:52 – 0:46:54] Adam: As the crow flies, it doesn’t matter.
[0:46:54 – 0:46:57] ErikTSN: CB, big antennas, big trucks, big arms.
[0:46:57 – 0:46:58] ErikTSN: A lot of amps.
[0:46:58 – 0:47:01] ErikTSN: Tanning oils, abandoned boys.
[0:47:03 – 0:47:04] ErikTSN: Rock and roll.
[0:47:04 – 0:47:05] ErikTSN: Rock and roll.
[0:47:06 – 0:47:07] ErikTSN: Flat tires.
[0:47:07 – 0:47:08] ErikTSN: Piles of cocaine.
[0:47:08 – 0:47:09] ErikTSN: Spikes on the road.
[0:47:10 – 0:47:11] ErikTSN: Spikes on the road.
[0:47:11 – 0:47:17] ErikTSN: We’ve got, what, Over the Top, Black Dog, Maximum Overdrive.
[0:47:17 – 0:47:18] Adam: Big Trouble in Little China.
[0:47:18 – 0:47:19] ErikTSN: Big Trouble in Little China.
[0:47:19 – 0:47:21] ErikTSN: Are there really that many trucks in that movie, though?
[0:47:22 – 0:47:24] Adam: Yes, the whole movie is about trucking.
[0:47:24 – 0:47:30] ErikTSN: I don’t know if it is nearly about as much trucking as you think it is.
[0:47:31 – 0:47:34] ErikTSN: Compared to the three that I’ve already mentioned, which I don’t think, have you seen any of those?
[0:47:35 – 0:47:36] ErikTSN: No, I haven’t seen any of those.
[0:47:36 – 0:47:39] ErikTSN: Your trucking, I’m going to set you straight on what makes a trucking movie.
[0:47:40 – 0:47:41] ErikTSN: Like, what’s the other one?
[0:47:41 – 0:47:45] Adam: I want that song, like, eastbound down.
[0:47:45 – 0:47:46] ErikTSN: That’s what I’m thinking.
[0:47:46 – 0:47:46] ErikTSN: Exactly.
[0:47:46 – 0:47:48] Adam: Getting up and trucking.
[0:47:48 – 0:47:51] ErikTSN: We’re going down to the Flying J tonight.
[0:47:51 – 0:47:53] ErikTSN: What’s the Convoy?
[0:47:54 – 0:47:54] ErikTSN: What’s that movie?
[0:47:55 – 0:47:56] Adam: What’s the Convoy movie?
[0:47:56 – 0:47:57] Adam: That’s got to be number four.
[0:47:58 – 0:47:59] ErikTSN: What is Convoy movie?
[0:48:01 – 0:48:03] Adam: Sir, don’t ask Google.
[0:48:03 – 0:48:07] Adam: Call 1-800-ENCYCLOPEDIA, Eric, and ask, what is Convoy movie?
[0:48:07 – 0:48:09] Adam: It’s just called Convoy?
[0:48:09 – 0:48:09] Adam: Convoy.
[0:48:09 – 0:48:10] Adam: I knew it.
[0:48:10 – 0:48:12] Adam: Okay.
[0:48:12 – 0:48:12] Adam: Yes.
[0:48:13 – 0:48:14] ErikTSN: Got it.
[0:48:14 – 0:48:16] ErikTSN: 1978 American Road action film.
[0:48:17 – 0:48:19] ErikTSN: Oh, it’s a Sam Peckinpah movie.
[0:48:19 – 0:48:20] ErikTSN: That’s a peckin’ paw.
[0:48:20 – 0:48:25] ErikTSN: This is a screenplay by Bill Norton based on a 1975 country western song.
[0:48:26 – 0:48:26] ErikTSN: It’s based on a song.
[0:48:27 – 0:48:27] Adam: Yeah.
[0:48:27 – 0:48:28] Adam: He’s bound down.
[0:48:28 – 0:48:33] ErikTSN: The song initially concerns truck drivers being extorted by a sheriff in Arizona.
[0:48:34 – 0:48:35] ErikTSN: Ooh, yeah.
[0:48:35 – 0:48:35] ErikTSN: All right.
[0:48:35 – 0:48:36] Adam: Well, who’s in this?
[0:48:36 – 0:48:37] Adam: Truckers would never.
[0:48:37 – 0:48:40] Adam: Ooh, Chris Christopherson, Ali McGrath.
[0:48:42 – 0:48:43] ErikTSN: I’ve never heard of anybody else.
[0:48:44 – 0:48:44] ErikTSN: Yeah.
[0:48:46 – 0:48:48] ErikTSN: But I have heard of Sam Peckinpah.
[0:48:49 – 0:48:50] ErikTSN: And…
[0:48:51 – 0:48:53] Adam: They’re all wearing tight-fitting jeans in that one.
[0:48:54 – 0:48:57] Adam: Like a Conway Twitty song come to life.
[0:48:57 – 0:48:58] ErikTSN: I can’t wait for Big Truck Month.
[0:48:59 – 0:49:01] Adam: It’s going to be nice to chill out a little.
[0:49:01 – 0:49:02] Adam: And we’re going to do big truck lakes.
[0:49:03 – 0:49:06] Adam: Anybody know any big truck lakes other than Ram Lake?
[0:49:06 – 0:49:08] ErikTSN: TCC, Truck Month.
[0:49:08 – 0:49:09] ErikTSN: Definitely going to do Ram.
[0:49:09 – 0:49:15] ErikTSN: Needs to go hand-in-hand with automotive-themed lakes in the Boundary Waters as well.
[0:49:16 – 0:49:16] ErikTSN: Motor Lake.
[0:49:17 – 0:49:17] ErikTSN: Cam Shaft.
[0:49:18 – 0:49:19] ErikTSN: Flywheel.
[0:49:19 – 0:49:21] ErikTSN: Yeah.
[0:49:21 – 0:49:22] ErikTSN: There’s got to be an oil pan lake.
[0:49:24 – 0:49:24] ErikTSN: Right?
[0:49:24 – 0:49:25] ErikTSN: Yeah.
[0:49:25 – 0:49:26] ErikTSN: Blinker fluid.
[0:49:26 – 0:49:27] ErikTSN: Come on.
[0:49:28 – 0:49:29] ErikTSN: So can’t wait for that.
[0:49:30 – 0:49:30] ErikTSN: Payload.
[0:49:30 – 0:49:36] Adam: Payload.
[0:49:36 – 0:49:38] Adam: Yeah.
[0:49:39 – 0:49:42] Adam: We’re going to make some deliveries on time.
[0:49:42 – 0:49:43] Adam: We’ll stretch.
[0:49:43 – 0:49:44] Adam: We’re going to make them early.
[0:49:44 – 0:49:50] ErikTSN: We’ll stretch the limitations of Big Truck Month in terms of its correlation to Bargewater’s Lake.
[0:49:50 – 0:49:55] ErikTSN: Because Lake Review, the Lake Review summer, Brat Summer’s years old.
[0:49:55 – 0:49:56] ErikTSN: That brat’s old and dead.
[0:49:56 – 0:49:56] ErikTSN: She’s in the ground.
[0:49:57 – 0:49:58] ErikTSN: Yuck.
[0:49:58 – 0:49:58] ErikTSN: Yuck.
[0:50:00 – 0:50:00] ErikTSN: Yuck.
[0:50:01 – 0:50:01] ErikTSN: Yum.
[0:50:01 – 0:50:01] Adam: Yum.
[0:50:02 – 0:50:02] ErikTSN: Big rigs.
[0:50:02 – 0:50:05] SPEAKER_00: Lake Review and Big Truck Summer, baby.
[0:50:07 – 0:50:08] Adam: Yum, yum.
[0:50:08 – 0:50:11] Adam: Yeah, I can’t wait to shift into high gear, Eric.
[0:50:11 – 0:50:14] Adam: Yeah, we’re going to be double shifting.
[0:50:14 – 0:50:15] Adam: We’re going to be down shifting.
[0:50:16 – 0:50:19] ErikTSN: Our left arms are going to be so red hot and bronze tanned.
[0:50:20 – 0:50:21] Adam: Yeah, exactly.
[0:50:21 – 0:50:21] Adam: Yeah.
[0:50:22 – 0:50:23] Adam: Oh, man, I can’t wait.
[0:50:24 – 0:50:26] Adam: Anyways, yeah, that’s what’s coming up.
[0:50:26 – 0:50:27] Adam: Are you guys excited?
[0:50:28 – 0:50:28] ErikTSN: We are.
[0:50:29 – 0:50:29] Adam: I am.
[0:50:29 – 0:50:31] Adam: And I hope you can tell.
[0:50:31 – 0:50:32] Adam: You can hear it in our voices.
[0:50:33 – 0:50:38] Adam: And it’s not just the excessive amounts of sunlight we’ve taken today on the solstice.
[0:50:38 – 0:50:44] ErikTSN: Sunbrew in my guts and sunshine on my face.
[0:50:45 – 0:50:46] ErikTSN: It’s been a good day.
[0:50:46 – 0:50:50] ErikTSN: The shed is… We’re going to shut her down for a little bit here.
[0:50:50 – 0:50:52] ErikTSN: Everybody’s got a big June.
[0:50:52 – 0:50:53] ErikTSN: Big June’s ahead of us.
[0:50:54 – 0:50:54] Adam: We’re traveling.
[0:50:55 – 0:50:55] ErikTSN: Traveling.
[0:50:55 – 0:50:56] ErikTSN: June’s.
[0:50:57 – 0:51:04] ErikTSN: TCC’s coming back and it’s going to be just blowing the doors off your house when this truck rolls through town.
[0:51:05 – 0:51:07] ErikTSN: We’re going to be jake breaking through the areas that say…
[0:51:07 – 0:51:08] ErikTSN: No Jake breaking?
[0:51:08 – 0:51:09] Adam: Yeah, don’t Jake them.
[0:51:09 – 0:51:10] Adam: We’ll do it anyway.
[0:51:10 – 0:51:11] Adam: Don’t break them.
[0:51:11 – 0:51:13] Adam: We’re going to charm those breaks.
[0:51:13 – 0:51:13] Adam: Charm them.
[0:51:14 – 0:51:15] ErikTSN: Jake’s just charming.
[0:51:15 – 0:51:17] Adam: We got two lists going on the whiteboard.
[0:51:17 – 0:51:21] Adam: One is for big rig movies, and the other one’s just for lakes we’re going to do.
[0:51:22 – 0:51:29] Adam: So if anybody’s got a request for either, hit us up, tumblehomecast at gmail.com, or just chat me up in the Discord.
[0:51:29 – 0:51:30] Adam: I’m always on there.
[0:51:32 – 0:51:32] Adam: He’s always saying that.
[0:51:33 – 0:51:34] Adam: He’s always saying he’s on the Discord.
[0:51:34 – 0:51:35] Adam: You are always on there, though.
[0:51:36 – 0:51:37] Adam: I’m chronically on the Discord.
[0:51:38 – 0:51:44] ErikTSN: I think you told me there was somebody that is on the Discord now as not HD Mayo.
[0:51:44 – 0:51:45] Adam: Yeah.
[0:51:45 – 0:51:46] Adam: It’s very suspicious.
[0:51:46 – 0:51:48] ErikTSN: Are they commenting?
[0:51:48 – 0:51:49] Adam: No.
[0:51:49 – 0:51:49] Adam: No.
[0:51:50 – 0:51:51] Adam: They’re just lurking.
[0:51:51 – 0:51:51] Adam: Good.
[0:51:51 – 0:51:57] Adam: Clearly one of the people we had to kick off who just joined as not HD Mayo probably and I was lurking.
[0:51:58 – 0:51:58] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:51:59 – 0:52:00] Adam: Can you lurk?
[0:52:01 – 0:52:03] Adam: You can just join and not comment, yes.
[0:52:03 – 0:52:04] Adam: Well, I suppose.
[0:52:04 – 0:52:05] Adam: But doesn’t it, like, show?
[0:52:05 – 0:52:06] Adam: I remember, because I was.
[0:52:06 – 0:52:07] ErikTSN: I have been on there.
[0:52:07 – 0:52:08] ErikTSN: Yeah.
[0:52:09 – 0:52:14] ErikTSN: Doesn’t it show you as, like, you can, like, click a button, I feel like, and it shows you, like, who’s online.
[0:52:14 – 0:52:15] ErikTSN: Yeah, you can see.
[0:52:15 – 0:52:17] ErikTSN: To, like, chat with people who have, like, the green circle.
[0:52:17 – 0:52:18] Adam: Yeah, you got the green light.
[0:52:19 – 0:52:20] Adam: So.
[0:52:20 – 0:52:21] Adam: Doesn’t mean they’re going to answer.
[0:52:22 – 0:52:25] ErikTSN: But you can, can you look and be like, oh, NotHDMayo is here now.
[0:52:26 – 0:52:27] Adam: Oh, I don’t know about that.
[0:52:27 – 0:52:28] Adam: Yeah, I guess probably.
[0:52:28 – 0:52:31] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:52:32 – 0:52:34] Adam: I don’t currently go to look when I get on the Discord.
[0:52:34 – 0:52:35] Adam: Who’s here?
[0:52:35 – 0:52:38] ErikTSN: Who’s in the room?
[0:52:38 – 0:52:41] ErikTSN: Who’s here in this internet cafe tonight?
[0:52:41 – 0:52:43] Adam: We’re going to chat.
[0:52:44 – 0:52:46] Adam: Anybody in here want to play some checkers?
[0:52:47 – 0:52:52] ErikTSN: Is that the one game that Discord allows you to play without having to pay $4.99 a month to do something else?
[0:52:53 – 0:52:55] Adam: I was just an internet cafe joke.
[0:52:55 – 0:52:56] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:52:58 – 0:53:01] ErikTSN: Is that even other internet cafes in this country anymore?
[0:53:01 – 0:53:04] Adam: Yeah, we were talking about that at work this week.
[0:53:04 – 0:53:08] Adam: We should rebrand the co-op as the Internet Cafe of Grammaray.
[0:53:09 – 0:53:10] ErikTSN: You should put a sign up front.
[0:53:10 – 0:53:11] ErikTSN: Free Wi-Fi.
[0:53:11 – 0:53:12] ErikTSN: Free Wi-Fi.
[0:53:12 – 0:53:13] Adam: Free Internet.
[0:53:13 – 0:53:14] Adam: Welcome to the Internet Cafe.
[0:53:15 – 0:53:17] Adam: Free Internet would be the funny way to do it.
[0:53:17 – 0:53:18] Adam: Not Wi-Fi, Internet.
[0:53:18 – 0:53:20] Adam: Free internet with purchase of sandwich.
[0:53:22 – 0:53:24] ErikTSN: Ten cents to print.
[0:53:24 – 0:53:26] Adam: Extra gigawatts for chowder.
[0:53:27 – 0:53:27] Adam: What?
[0:53:27 – 0:53:28] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:53:28 – 0:53:30] Adam: Yeah, I think that’s how that works.
[0:53:30 – 0:53:31] Adam: Those are words.
[0:53:31 – 0:53:33] Adam: Yeah, that’s how the internet works.
[0:53:34 – 0:53:38] Adam: But yeah, I don’t know.
[0:53:38 – 0:53:38] Adam: That’s…
[0:53:41 – 0:53:41] Adam: That’s what we’re going to do.
[0:53:42 – 0:53:42] ErikTSN: Okay.
[0:53:42 – 0:53:43] ErikTSN: Big truck month.
[0:53:43 – 0:53:44] ErikTSN: More lake reviews.
[0:53:45 – 0:53:46] ErikTSN: Cam shaft.
[0:53:46 – 0:53:47] ErikTSN: Well, there’s cam.
[0:53:48 – 0:53:48] ErikTSN: Cam.
[0:53:48 – 0:53:50] ErikTSN: I don’t think there’s cam sites on that lake, though.
[0:53:50 – 0:53:51] ErikTSN: What about shaft lake?
[0:53:51 – 0:53:52] ErikTSN: There’s got to be a shaft.
[0:53:53 – 0:53:54] Adam: Axle?
[0:53:54 – 0:53:55] ErikTSN: Hmm.
[0:53:58 – 0:54:13] Adam: we’re gonna keep looking anybody have any good ideas for rigs or uh truck themed lakes rig based lakes rig lakes yeah i think there is a rig there’s gotta be a rig there’s a rig lake for sure
[0:54:15 – 0:54:28] Adam: there’s chad that’s about as close as we’re gonna get i like i think there is a payload out there we’re gonna definitely look this up after there’s a payload i think but it’s like again it’s like one of those tiny areas no yeah there’s no campsites in there how are we gonna make an episode out of that
[0:54:29 – 0:54:33] ErikTSN: Well, we just talked for well under an hour.
[0:54:33 – 0:54:35] Adam: Well under an hour, as promised.
[0:54:35 – 0:54:36] Adam: As promised.
[0:54:36 – 0:54:40] Adam: Thank you, Trevor, for mixing tonight and for keeping us on track.
[0:54:41 – 0:54:44] Adam: He’s back, and he’s more efficient than ever.
[0:54:44 – 0:54:45] Adam: Trevor’s back in town.
[0:54:45 – 0:54:46] Adam: We appreciate that.
[0:54:46 – 0:54:46] Adam: Yep.
[0:54:47 – 0:54:47] Adam: Good to see him.
[0:54:48 – 0:54:52] Adam: He’s got a mustache now, which is weird, considering he was a child when we hired him.
[0:54:53 – 0:54:54] ErikTSN: Yeah, there’s too many mustaches in here.
[0:54:55 – 0:54:57] ErikTSN: All three of us have mustaches now.
[0:54:58 – 0:55:00] Adam: We’re a real team of whiskers.
[0:55:00 – 0:55:01] Adam: Let me just go back to the beard.
[0:55:01 – 0:55:02] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:55:02 – 0:55:02] Adam: Oh, my God.
[0:55:02 – 0:55:03] Adam: It’s way too hot for that.
[0:55:03 – 0:55:04] Adam: I don’t know.
[0:55:04 – 0:55:08] ErikTSN: I’ve just been walking around and it’s like… No truckers are wearing a beard.
[0:55:08 – 0:55:08] ErikTSN: My mustache is like cooked.
[0:55:09 – 0:55:10] ErikTSN: Mustache is like…
[0:55:10 – 0:55:12] ErikTSN: Everybody’s got a mustache now.
[0:55:12 – 0:55:12] Adam: Not like yours.
[0:55:13 – 0:55:14] Adam: Not like this.
[0:55:15 – 0:55:16] Adam: Not like either of ours, I know.
[0:55:16 – 0:55:16] Adam: No.
[0:55:17 – 0:55:19] Adam: Everybody in town wishes they had a mustache like that.
[0:55:20 – 0:55:23] ErikTSN: I need to do something wildly different.
[0:55:23 – 0:55:31] ErikTSN: I’m thinking like John Waters pencil lip mustache or shave it all off and just go long hair and blow it out.
[0:55:31 – 0:55:33] ErikTSN: Maybe a little feathering.
[0:55:33 – 0:55:35] Adam: Shave your head and your mustache.
[0:55:35 – 0:55:36] Adam: Just go hairless.
[0:55:37 – 0:55:38] ErikTSN: I’m not shaving my head.
[0:55:40 – 0:55:52] ErikTSN: I’ve been blessed with a mildly like full head of hair that you don’t really notice really until, you know, get to my age and you’re just like, huh, I guess I still have my hair.
[0:55:53 – 0:55:53] Adam: Good for you.
[0:55:53 – 0:55:54] ErikTSN: Kind of crazy.
[0:55:54 – 0:56:18] ErikTSN: yeah and i don’t want to like i don’t know how many more times i could like shave it off and it would come back it’s not nearly as like i don’t think that’s how it works but full as it was when i was in my 20s but i’m not it’s not like going away but also grow it out honestly and keep the mustache like the you know the steve carell from the 40 year old version is it true if you don’t use it you will lose it yeah
[0:56:19 – 0:56:20] ErikTSN: I don’t want to lose it.
[0:56:20 – 0:56:21] ErikTSN: I’d shave it off.
[0:56:21 – 0:56:30] ErikTSN: It’s like that scene from Seinfeld where the guy’s got a shaved head and his picture in his license has got a full head of hair and Elaine’s like, you should grow your hair out again.
[0:56:30 – 0:56:32] ErikTSN: He’s like, oh, I’ve been shaving it because I’m a swimmer.
[0:56:32 – 0:56:34] ErikTSN: And then he tries growing it back and it’s like, oh, no.
[0:56:35 – 0:56:35] ErikTSN: Oh, no.
[0:56:36 – 0:56:37] ErikTSN: It’s not all coming back.
[0:56:38 – 0:56:39] ErikTSN: And then George consults.
[0:56:39 – 0:56:41] ErikTSN: He’s like, yeah, you got the classic horseshoe pattern going here.
[0:56:41 – 0:56:45] ErikTSN: I give you 16 to 24 months.
[0:56:45 – 0:56:48] Adam: That’s why you always keep the horseshoe pointed up.
[0:56:48 – 0:56:50] ErikTSN: Exactly, to catch all of the hair.
[0:56:50 – 0:56:51] Adam: Catch all the hair.
[0:56:51 – 0:56:56] Adam: For Tumble Home, a proud independent podcast, this has been episode 321.
[0:56:56 – 0:56:57] Adam: Thanks for listening.
[0:56:58 – 0:57:08] Adam: As we always say on Tumble Home, keep your horseshoes up and your paddle down in the water.
[0:57:08 – 0:57:09] ErikTSN: Oh, perfect.
[0:57:09 – 0:57:11] ErikTSN: That should have been the quote from the beginning.
[0:57:13 – 0:57:14] Adam: Happy paddling.
[0:57:15 – 0:57:15] Adam: Good night.
[0:58:23 – 0:58:23] UNKNOWN: Thank you.
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